Parenting Hell with Rob Beckett and Josh Widdicombe - S05 EP20: Stacey Solomon

Episode Date: September 30, 2022

Joining us this episode to discuss the highs and lows of parenting (and life) is the brilliant singer, presenter, and author - Stacey Solomon. Stacey's new book ‘Tap to Tidy at Pickle Cottage' is out now. Thanks, Rob + Josh. BIG NEWS.... we're writing a book!  ⭐ All the stories we can’t tell on the podcast – in depth. ⭐ What it’s like to raise a stiff neck and a loose neck – straight from the horse’s mouth (our parents) ⭐ And.. the BIGGEST REQUEST WE’VE EVER HAD FOR THE PODCAST… Hearing from our wives, Rose & Lou. They’ve got a chapter each and YOU can submit your burning questions to them...   [e-mail] What's it really like to be a parent? And how come no one ever warned Rob or Josh of the sheer mind-bending, world-altering, sleep-depriving, sick-covering, tear-inducing, snot-wiping, bore-inspiring, 4am-relationship-straining brutality of it all? And if they did, why can't they remember it (or remember anything else, for that matter)? And just when they thought it couldn't get any harder, why didn't anyone warn them about the slices of unmatched euphoric joy and pride that occasionally come piercing through, drenching you in unbridled happiness in much the same way a badly burped baby drenches you in milk-sick? Join Josh and Rob as they share the challenges and madness of their parenting journeys with lashings of empathy and extra helpings of laughs. Filled with all the things they never tell you at antenatal classes, Parenting Hell is a beguiling mixture of humour, rumination and conversation for prospective parents, new parents, old parents and never-to-be parents alike. Find out everything you need to know, including how you could win a pair of tickets to the Parenting Hell LIVE tour & an overnight stay in London here:  https://www.bit.ly/ParentingHellBook We're going on tour!! Fancy seeing the podcast live in some of the best venues in the UK? Of course you do, you're not made of stone! Tickets available now on the dates and at the venues below. We can't wait to see you there... ON SALE NOW  14th April 2023 - Manchester AO Arena 19th April 2023 - Nottingham 20th April 2023 - Cardiff  21st April 2023 - London (The O2) 23rd April 2023 - London (Wembley) 28th April 2023 - Birmingham Utilita Arena  If you want to get in touch with the show here's how: EMAIL: [e-mail] TWITTER: @parenting_hell INSTAGRAM: @parentinghell A 'Keep It Light Media' Production  Sales, advertising, and general enquiries: [e-mail] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hello, I'm Rob Beckett. And I'm Josh Widdickham. Welcome to Parenting Hell, the show in which Josh and I discuss what it's really like to be a parent, which I would say can be a little tricky. So, to make ourselves and hopefully you feel better about the trials and tribulations of modern-day parenting, each week we'll be chatting to a famous parent about how they're coping. Or hopefully how they're not coping. And we'll also be hearing from you the listener with your tips, advice, and of course,

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It wasn't exactly correct. Let's be honest. I think the answer to that was no. Yeah, well, this is Sebastian who's five months today. Oh, well, to be fair, that's what you're going to, what do you expect from a five-month year old? She knew what was going on. And she says, that's pronounced the. After five months, maternity leave, I go

back to work on Monday. Oh wee, congratulations. This summer your podcast has got me through some low and lonely moments, many long buggy walks and lots of not knowing what the hell I'm doing. My husband's listened pretty relentlessly on his commute and we regularly discuss our favorite bits of the end of each day when we are too tired to talk about much else. Thank you both for your support and many laughs. We're coming to see you live on Sunday the 23rd of April. Our son's first birthday. Maddie Summers and Sebastian. Yes we are on tour. We also, Rob, we need to plug this book. It's bloody coming out soon. Right, yeah. You did it, you did a great Instagram post about it. It was very obvious who it had come from. Yeah, well I was a little bit of not. Look, Josh, I love our listeners. Okay, I've loved the little community. I love the little community we've created. All these guys, you know, and people share stories,

Instagram, the Instagram comments are popping, everyone's being supportive. We do small business shout out, trying to get small businesses up and running. We've done 225 episodes for free. We get a lot of people listening which is great we love it. However I've seen the pre-orders and the numbers don't match. They don't match. I'm not expecting every... They're very healthy pre-orders for a book Rob but not for a podcast book. They're great. Everyone's really happy however I've looked at the numbers for how many people normally listen to an episode of this. How many. I. I. They. They. They. They. They. They. They. They. They. They. They's. They's. They's. They's. They's. They's. They're. the the the the the the the the they. They're. they're. they're. they're. they're. they're they're they're they're they're. they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're. they're. they're. they're. they're. they're. they're. they're. they're. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they're. they. they're. they're to. to. t. t. t. ttry. ttry. to ttry. to try. to to to try. to. to. to. they're they're they're they're to. they're to an episode of this, how many people have pre-ordered the book, and I'd say we're at one, and two percent, yes. Which is, so two percent of people listening and have been listening for free for 225 episodes but haven't bought the book that is 10 pounds on Amazon at the moment, which is very good. It's fucking great. Do you know what? It's annoyed me? Because could have got ghost writers in and not put any

F in. I fucking read. We could have turned out any old shit, Rob and got away with it. I've fucking... They didn't say in the contract it had to be good. No. But we bloody well and did it. I've written this book, right?

And it's hard writing a book. And two percent of our listeners. It works out, if, if, spend 10 pounds on the book, and you have listened to every episode of this podcast, it works out that you've paid, you get a book and every episode works out about 4P and Epp. 4P and the book. Plus you get the book. Which is, if anything, it's like the episodes, only imagine if we'd gone through an editor and all the shit bits have been taken out. Exactly, exactly, oh my dog's chewing something I'm going let me get to sort this out. Plus, let's not over it. By the fucking book.

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Anyone that just got, anyone in that top level of tax that just got an absolute bonus, spend it on 400 books, just do them. Get the country back on its feet. Get out of there by 400 copies of our book. You're helping the economy grow. We're trying to grow here, mate. Anyway, but I'm only half joking, but I do think it's a bit of a liberty, but that's fine. That's on me and it. Anyway Rob, Stacey Solomon today, I'd say, in a way, almost anticipated episode. Yeah people people want this hard don't they? We had Joe Swash on but I'm interested to get Joe Swash on a second time after Stacy basically slugs him off. I think she'd be nice about him because I went to their

wedding and it was the most the speeches. Tell me about the wedding. The speeches went on for about three hours but they were some of the most heart-breaking beautiful speeches because they're a sort sort of the the at so Joe's watch his dad died when he was young so Joe's mom spoke and then like and then their kids are older now the kids from their first relationships are all like teenagers so it was like 15 year olds doing speeches about how much they love Stacy and Joe and then at one point I was crying I turned around to I think Joe's brother-in-law, big, big guy, he was crying too, and he went, fucking hell, it's like comic relief. But it was, it was, I felt very privileged to be invited,

and it was a beautiful day. One thing I might bring up in this episode is when we were waiting for Stacey to walk down the aisle and I checked my phone because I was a bit bored waiting for the wedding to start, that's life and she did a story on Instagram with her running a bath and I was like, come on, fair enough have a bath, it's your day but don't put it on fucking Instagram what I'm sat in the sun. You know what that's like when someone's late and they turn up with a coffee and you're like, come on mate. But it was a wedding day, so I didn't bring it up, but I might bring it up, I might bring it up on this. Has anyone got a reason why this couple of comments? Yeah, she had a fucking bath, mate.

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JW or RB. I went for SS and realized it meant something bad but no it's not. It's Stacey Solomon who is yeah one of the most requested I'd say the Queen of Insta' the ultimate request we've had I'd say This is the one the listeners have been looking forward to. Yes, I'm a huge fan of Stacey Solomon, so I will be biased in this interview because I love her to pieces and I love Joe Swash. We haven't recorded it yet. It might be fucking dog shit.

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I luckily managed to time Rosie's nap to a tea, so she's asleep. But Rex is running around playing hot wheels. So you might hear some, uh, some door slams and some feet running around. I'm sorry. I don't know. It's away at the moment. So I've literally, it's just us. We usually try and do our work. Oh, that was nice. Thanks. Thank you. We usually try and do our work like alternatively, but it just hasn't happened in the last three weeks because he's been away. So, here we are. Oh, fair enough. He's the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. to th. to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to th. It's th. It's the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. th. th. th. th. the. the. the the the the. the the. the the. the. the the. the. the. the. the. to. to. to. ated, please, can you run us through how many children you have and their ages, if possible? Oh God, I don't know if I can remember, still. I've got four children. Together we've got five children, Joe's eldest son, Harry, he's 15, my eldest is 14,

then there's Layton who's 10. Oh my gosh, how bad is it that? I have to sit and think, how old's it? I'll forget their names sometimes. I'm like, Theo, tel you peanut, which are the dogs names until I finally reach my kids. And then we've got Rex who is free and Rose who is about to be one. And you've got a load of dogs as well? Just the two dogs. Yeah. We thought, you know what? Four kids isn't enough?

Should we get two dogs as well? Amazing. Well, I met one of your dogs, Peanut at the wedding, and he's very well behaved. Oh my gosh, Peanut is the most friendly dog ever. He loves people. And when you were at the wedding, when we got our photos back from that little photo booth. Peanut was in nearly every single one. Yeah, I know.

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those ones wrong? Just a bit more details on those ones would be ideal. You know the weddings I'm talking about. And honestly I've never been to a wedding full of so much love and the speeches nearly absolutely killed me Stacey because all your boys are a bit older now, they're like teenagers they did speeches about you and Joe and what all you meant to each other and and Joe's mom did one because Joe's dad's not around and oh my god it was you know what it was so funny because the boys did it we didn't say to him we have to do a speech or anything like that so we didn't know if they were going to do anything or not we just said you know on the day if you fancy it go for it and Joe was an emotional mess down there yeah yeah so before I even walk down to me the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the too. the the to the the the the aisle why people coming up to me like my mom and my mother-in-law saying don't worry Joe's a bit of a like a bit of a mess down there but don't worry you's happy I was like what the heck is going on

so like as I walked down the aisle he was already sobbing and I just I'm not very crying I don't know why I'm just not very crying and I thought I'll be fine the whole day it'll be absolutely fine and the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th I th is tho tho tho and I tho and I'm tho and I'm tho and I'm th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th I th I th I th I th I th I th I th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th thin I thin the the the the the the thou they they they they they they they they they they they they they thoo th The whole day it'll be absolutely fine. And then as soon as the boys were like, oh yeah, we want to say something, we want to say something. I just could not hold it in. Because they never say anything, especially teenage boys. They basically don't ever tell you how they feel,

what they to say. And they were actually really nice. I was so surprised. You know, you go through that moment where you're like, oh, what they're going to say? What they're going to reveal? Yeah, I've never seen teenage boys be so sort of emotional because I was expecting them to go, yeah, and dad you're a bit of a dick or like what? You know, like what teenage boys thinks. to, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, they's, they's, like, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, what, what, what, what, what, what. Oh, what, what. Oh, what, what, what, what. Oh, what, what. Oh, what. Oh, what. Oh, what. Oh, what. Oh, what. Oh, what. Oh, or. Oh, or. Oh. Oh, or. Oh. Oh. Oh, or. Oh, what. Oh, they. they. they. they. they's. they's. they's. they're. they're. they're. they're. they're. they're. they're. they're. they're. they're. they're. they're. they're. they're. they're. they're. they're. they're. they're not with a I think the words blended family now like you're always worried if they're not going to get on and things like that but that must have been lovely for you. It really was so nice and I think as well because Joe did Joe's very open at home and he really like talks about his dad a lot and what how much it affected him losing his dad I think the boys because we are a blended family and their lives necessarily and their parents haven't been everything that you see in the films.

I think they really appreciate what Joe's been through and you know he's an amazing dad and an amazing father figure in our lives. And it was just so like, I think it was just really, yeah, really shocking to see that we're doing all right. They're actually quite happy. It was just like, few. What's going on in the background, Stacy? We need an update. You know what? My baby has woken up? Oh no. Rex thought I'd left him because I went to check on the baby.

I'm so sorry. I'm so good. I think when we interviewed Joe, for some reason he ended up thaped tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to Joe for some reason he ended up recording it in the toilet, I don't even remember why. Oh my God, because he loves being on the toilet. That's his alone time. I'm not joking. Sometimes he'll go, I'm just going to to'et, I'm just going to t he's actually sitting down. He's fully stripped, get naked, pretend he's going to toilet, just so he can spend a couple of hours on his own. Is he a fully stripper for the toilet then?

Fully naked? Fully strip, he's so weird. Yeah, I remember him fully stripping off in the jungle. We used to share a dressing room and leave all totime to fully strip the gas oil up. What does Possible sound like for your business? It's having to spend to power your scale with no preset spending limit. Redefine possible with business platinum.

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So you and Joe are both working parents but obviously hands on with the kids. How do you split the jobs in the house? If you're both at home, is it, or is it whoever's not working, does everything, or do you have like roles? Joe's done a really good thing when we first got together? He just did everything terribly so I would take over? So, or the the the th so, or th. or the th. or th. th. So, th. So, th. Do, their th. Do, their their th. Do, thi their thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, their, thi, thi, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, the, the, the, their, the, the, the, the, their, their, the, their, their, their, their, their, te. te. toge. toge. toge, toge, toge, toge, toge, toge, toge, toge, toge, toge, to thing when we first got together. He's he just did everything terribly so I would take over. So yeah, he quickly worked out how to get away of doing very little around the house, but he is the cook, I would say, out of all of us. I'll make like fun little snacks and stuff, but he is the chef. So I probably am the cleaner and I'm a bit meticulous whereas he is not. You have to share room with him.

Oh, right, Stacey drove me mad. So he, what do you get, we used to share a room with him and it was just his stuff everywhere. And because he was like the senior one on the show, like you can't really moan, you sort of have to get on with it. I don't think Joe's then if he wasn't. But I had to my laptop out because I used to write a rude stand-up routine every night for the spin-off show of I'm a celebrity and by the end of the three weeks my laptop keys wasn't working.

Well, that's weird. And there was a weird bit of like plasticy lacquer on it and it was because when Joe used to get his hair ready and that there's a lot of ways he gets his hair ready. He has his special spray that I don't know what it's called. That fiber stuff. Yep. The fiber stuff that sort of helps you if you're a bit follically chatting. My keyboard. I know. So it just gets it lands and it just because it's so sticky it's sticky it's supposed to be sticky and thick in your hair it landed on my laptop and I couldn't press the keys. It's a nightmare. Do you find sticky patches Joe's left around the house? Oh my goodness. He's so, he's just so, I think because he lived on his own for such a long time. He looks like a student and he's just bizarre. I've never known anything laughing up and I think maybe it's why we ended up together because we're the complete absolute complete obsciest like he'll spit his two-face into the sink

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you're writing books, brilliant books coming out this year. Joe's busy with lots of filming, he's written a book as well. So you've got very big busy lifestyle at work and at home, and then your Instagram's huge and there's a pressure for you to post on there. You seem to manage all of it in a sort of very positive, full of energy way. Is there certain coping when you're busy? How do you manage it? I don't know if you find it the same, but for me, I genuinely in this industry think to myself, sometimes you'll be really busy and really popular and sometimes no one will care who you are and everyone I hate you, right? That's a positive way to look at it. But it is the way that it goes. It's often done. And also it's not like you can get yourself a promotion and be like, right, I've sorted myself out. I've

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make the most of it and do it and then it just goes by and you and you get through it don't't you, I suppose? Well, we've jose away for three weeks, did you say, Phil? So that is tough, you know, I go away touring sometimes and lose on her own. So how are you managing that? Do you have child care or did your family help out? What's what, or is it all on you? I'm actually saying, I'm not managing it.

My kids have been late for the last the last the last the last the last the last the last the last the last the last the last the last the last the last the last the last three weeks. It's just one of them times where it's just unmanageable. I haven't cooked a healthy meal every night. I haven't got on to bed on time. Sometimes I've been late for school. And it just is what it is, because I don't have that second pair of hands. My family are amazing. At the moment, though,. My dad on a whim, you know Dave. Yeah, I know Dave.

He was in Mexico. He just got up and went to Mexico. I went dead. I want me only. He went, oh, sorry, love, no. He was a couple weeks. Oh my God. He was the king of I- worried about him all. I'm not joking. I was like, honestly, he was good as gold and he, do

you know what he is, he just loves a chat and he's very charismatic and all the, all the girls, but it was quite funny though, because all the girls and women, I'll say more women than the girls, there's sort of an older element that I'd be for, all drawn to him and chatting to him and he was like, I the boy again but a lot of it was he's Stacey Solomon's dad. So I think around 10 minutes you realize there was just sort of fishing for stories about you really and he got a bit annoyed. You know what he's the nicest man and he means well he's got a heart of hold but he has no like self-awareness he loves Joe so much. Oh yeah, they got on so well. He couldn't believe he'd even invited him on his stag.

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Yeah, because also when you've got the same mom and dad, I've got half brothers and I've got to say mom and dad or a different mom or a different dad, there's always falling out and things like that. That's just a story. How does Joe feel that at some point he probably will be the third toughest man in the household? He's already getting upset that Zach's nearly tall in him and Harry is he's much bigger than him he's boy. Harry. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's he's. He's. He's he's he's. He's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's. He's. He's he's he's he's he's he's he's the their. He's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's not. He's not. He's not he's not. He's he's already. He's already he's already he's already he's already he's already he's already he's already he's already he's already he's he's he his boy. Harry, he's much... He could take him already I think. Literally he's like, How do you that? I'm tall? I'm tall. Because Joe Swash is about my high, about five foot eight.

And Joe Swash is like this full name, he's your husband. But like I can imagine, I just got vision of the boys and they're like teenagers. But it's going to be his little ginger bloke separating two six foot geases. They're all going to be so tall. Like Jack is nearly taller than Joe now. And I'm the same height as Joe and even that grinds his gears. Like on my wedding when we got married he was like so you wearing flats or high heels? Joe that's not a normal question for a husband to ask his wife. Well, he can't even do a big quiff, can he? That's the problem.

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it's fair to say that two of them can look after themselves. Not that I've abandoned them and I'm like, oh you're 10 years old now, that's it, so yeah, fly the nest. But essentially, they have to pick up after themselves and they have to not be pigs. You know what I mean? And that's just the balls in the house. Like, they have to do their own washing, they have to wash it in the main wash, where I wash everything, I don't

know. If you want to find out where it is, if you want to know where everything is and keep up to date, do your own loads. So he just puts his own on. What age did you start that from and years ago, Lank was about eight, that was probably 12. And I just was like, here, it's this easy. So tabbit, start. Goodbye. And what are you going to teach Joe?

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Like, you must have loads of people who are just like sending you pictures and stuff of how their home now looks like your home and all the things that you've, you've started a movement, right? No, I don't think I've started to move. I think DIY and doing things yourself has always been popular and people have enjoyed it because first of all, I mean the cost of things nowadays is just real joy and level of satisfaction out of looking at a space and thinking I'd love it to look like this finding out how you can make it like that yourself and then doing it and then looking back and thinking God I did that it's such a good feeling and so I think it's always been something people absolutely love to do but I when we moved in here I I th I th I th I th I th I th I th I just th I just th I just th I just th I just th I just th I just th I just th I just th I just th I just th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th thi thi the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th the th th th th th th the the the the the the theat theeeat theat theeeeeat theeeeat the of th it's always been something people absolutely love to do.

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You need to know I don't want it to ruin the end. Well I always think if you don't know how it's going to turn out then you can go wrong at any point. So I always think get to the end, see how we're supposed to look and then as you go in if something if you think oh that's not how that look like in the end picture then you know you've done something to the thing but I think that's fair enough and that's why there's experts out there who will do it for you as well. But you know it's cooking so he does the cooking, he's got a cooking book out as well as and he's you got a cooking book out. He's so funny because you don't tell me nothing and then like he'll post on Instagram I've got a cookbook out. I'm like baby you could have told me. So you're going head-to-head, head-to-head in book sales. How have you translated your Instagram to the book then?

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hopefully if I can write it all down and tell people like a really clear cut easy easy-ish way to do it, then maybe it will give people the confidence to it or even they'll just enjoy looking at the pictures because the illustration is so pretty. And I do love a picture book. So it's like a recipe book from rooms? Yeah it's basically like the DIY version of a cookbook. Nice. No I loved it. I mean there's don't get me wrong. I'm not a carpenter, I'm not a plumber, I'm not a trade person with a specific skill set but there's little bits and pieces that I can do that I absolutely loved. So I just thought it'd be fun to come in it down and it's quite a nice little look back through the house because we've been in two years as well.

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And I'm gonna keep all it, painted it blue. You know what you just think you can have it any color you want, you can put any design you want in there because you're doing it yourself and no one's there to say oh that won't look right or that's a bad idea. I mean sometimes that can bite you you in the farm but most of the fun. And does Joe have thaghio quite like in the room or does he completely let you just get on with it? He, I will ask him because I'm like, oh I hope he likes it and he would just be like, yeah, sounds good like he doesn't have the foresight and it really isn't that interesting at all. He's more like, cool, you go and have some fun, I'll go take the kids to the park. Oh, fair. That works well then. And you've nearly done all your rooms now. So what happens

now? Do you move house again or redo the rooms again? Or just enjoy it? I just want to enjoy it. We've still got quite a few things to do. But the majority, like the bulk big stuff is done, which is such a nice feeling. So it's nice to just sit back and not have to do anything. I think for now I just want to look after it. Like we never in our lives thought we would have a home like this ever. So there's such a beautiful home as well. We're just so lucky, Rob, like, we just got so lucky with it. And so there's such a joy out the joy tha tha tha tha tha thoing out tho tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, thi, tho, tho, thi, like a joy tho, like a joy, like, like, like, like, like, like, thi, thi, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, to to to to to to to be a to be a to be, to be, to be a to be, to be, to be a to be a to be a to be a th. th. th. th. th. th. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi. tho. thoo. the thooooooooo. thoooooooooooo. thoo. tho. tho. th's such a joy out of that. Repainting if something means a repaint, cleaning the things that you've done, looking after the stuff that you've you've worked hard to put in there and I'm looking to be a lot of

heart in that house. It feels like a real family home when you go in it when you go in. When it feels like a proper family home full of you don't feel that, you know. But it's so lovely when you go in, you sort of feel, you know, somehow as you go in and go, I could stay here for a few weeks and just feel like, oh, it's one of them ones. Well, you're more than welcome, Rob, you know that anytime. Oh, I doubt that. You'd get me out doing school runs and everyone's going. How's it going with the two kids over there?

Oh, it's going around. Rex is on his third packet of crisps and Rose is having a cuddle with me. He's dragging a witch's hat around the floor as well, which is always fun because the boys wanted the Halloween decorations out. But yeah, no we get thr of their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their the boys wanted the Halloween decorations out. But yeah, no, we get through things. We go through it. It's incredible. So, yeah, the final question we ask everyone this, not always about Joe Swash, but about their partner. What's the one thing Joe does that infuriates you with the kids as a parent? And what's the one thing that he does that's amazing and you love him to th of their of their of thing he does that infuriates me is to see, loves to get

them stuff. That's like my least favorite thing. I hate getting my kid stuff for no reason. Unless it's like birthday, bermits for or whatever, yeah why are they getting stuff? Do you know what I mean? That's not life. You don't just wake up one day and get stuff unless it feels through the post so I hate that. It drives me absolutely mental. What kind of stuff is just like little tellies when he's out? Comes home with absolute rubbish you know like a plastic car or I don't know just like Google slime gunk whatever and I'm like why but why do you hate me? Like what is it more because you don't want the kids to feel like they just get stuff for the sake of it or does it just get clock up the house? It's a combination of the two. Mostly I don't like them to get stuff unless like there's a real reason for it because I feel like rewards are for people who have done amazing things or it's really special.

I'm saying like a right dictator but you know I just don't think they should get stuff for no reason. I'd say from this interview, you're not coming across as a horrible month. No, no one's going to take away that from them. We've had guests like that, but don't worry, you're not one of them. Oh God. Um, and then, but yeah, it also just fills up the house and you know what it's ruined that's it and all I'm left with is a damaged carpet and an unhappy child. Yeah I think me and Joe have got too much in common you might need to form a support group with Lou. I'm literally about to message her now like you ever want to break I'll send Joe to yours you come to my. Oh can you imagine the house if you were if Joe came and lived at mine who so the kids, it'd be awful, an animal house, you know, the National Lamboo.

We would have the most meticulously beautiful house, Lou and I. I think you'd be able to operate in the kitchen if you two were there. And what's the best thing he does as a parent, Stacey? He just loves our kids so much. I fell in love with him because of how much he loved his own son and how much, you know, time he had for my children and his, that has never, has never, I know will never end. I think this is the most attractive thing about him and yeah, he loves them so much. More attractive than his hair. Oh, more attractive than every single fiber on his head. I love every fiber of your body, self-produced and applied.

But he's just loves the kid so much. He just loves them, Rob, like, he's just obsessed with him and he's just obsessed with him and he's just obsessed with him. Yeah, that's all I think that's all I really ever wanted from a partner with someone who loves us. That's all we need really, and yeah, he that in an abundance so we're so lucky. Thanks Stacey so much I mean it feels a bit sick of fantasy interview but you and Joe are two of the most genuine lovely people I've ever met like inside tell and I'm nice because sometimes people aren't all that they seem but you two are definitely the real deal and I'm so happy that you're happy and you've got such great success and I hope both books go to number two and three in the chart. Oh, the feelings are there so well.

We love you to love you. Cheers Stacy. Thank you guys. Enjoy your kids. All right. Love your bye. Stacey Solomon. Absolutely love that Rob. She's great, and she. I thi, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. tho, that, tho, tho, tho, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th. th. th. th. th, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. And, th. And, tha, tha, tha. And, tha. tha. tha. to to to tha. to to to to to to to to to to tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. that Rob. She's great and she. I think tap-to-tide is one of the most genius marketing things on Instagram that

there's ever been. Yeah. Yeah. Amazing, isn't it? Anyway, make sure you buy her book after you've bought. After you've bought ours. I'm recording this Rob from the booth that we're doing the audio book in. Yes, that's exciting isn't it? But buy the audio book and the real book. Also, I felt a bit harsh going in on the listeners the other day about, but you know what, I think I was right. Yeah. I've looked at the numbers and they need to pull their finger out. Yeah, see you in Waterstones. See you all at the London Literature Festival.

I'll be there. And I'll be drinking through Blue Water to get through it. So that- I cannot wait for my first and last London Literature Festival. Yeah, I really hope we turn up. And there's like some really like, I and then we turn up. Oh, AA Gill, is he an author? He's dead. So anyway, uh...

He must, yeah, but he still wrote books, didn't they? Yeah, I'm sure he did. But he won't be there. Yeah, he won't be there. That's the way you get out of it, is it? Being dead. That's how you get out. It will be great though, it will be great. Yeah, look forward to us naming some more dead people that won't be there. To be honest, let's be honest, anyone going to London Literature Festival is probably not

listen to the Stated Solomon episode. They certainly haven't got to the last bit. They certainly haven't got to the last bit. Right, I'll see you on Tuesday. See you on Tuesday. Bye.