Parenting Hell with Rob Beckett and Josh Widdicombe - S05 EP32: Giovanna Fletcher

Episode Date: November 11, 2022

 Joining us this episode to discuss the highs and lows of parenting (and life) is the brilliant author, podcaster and presenter - Giovanna Fletcher. 'Giovanna Fletcher: Made in Italy' will air on ITVBe from Sunday November 13th Thanks, Rob + Josh. We're going on tour!! Fancy seeing the podcast live in some of the best venues in the UK? Of course you do, you're not made of stone! Tickets available now on the dates and at the venues below. We can't wait to see you there... ON SALE NOW  14th April 2023 - Manchester AO Arena 19th April 2023 - Nottingham 20th April 2023 - Cardiff  21st April 2023 - London (The O2) 23rd April 2023 - London (Wembley) 28th April 2023 - Birmingham Utilita Arena  If you want to get in touch with the show here's how: EMAIL: [e-mail] TWITTER: @parenting_hell INSTAGRAM: @parentinghell A 'Keep It Light Media' Production  Sales, advertising, and general enquiries: [e-mail] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hello, I'm Rob Beckett. And I'm Josh Widdickham. Welcome to Parenting Hell, the show in which Josh and I discuss what it's really like to be a parent, which I would say can be a little tricky. So, to make ourselves and hopefully you feel better about the trials and tribulations of modern-day parenting, each week we'll be chatting to a famous parent about how they're coping. Or hopefully how they're not coping. And we'll also be hearing from you the listener with your tips, advice, and of course,

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Yes, you recorded a child in a shop and put it on the internet. I didn't record a child in it. That's only a voice memo, there's no video. Okay, but no, that was a lovely listeners Toby's tobacco that came to the book signing. Thank you. Thank you. That's very kind of you. What a place. Best shopping center in... I love it. It was great. It was great. It's coming coming coming coming coming coming coming coming coming coming coming coming coming coming coming coming coming coming coming coming coming coming coming coming coming coming coming coming coming coming coming coming coming coming coming coming coming coming coming coming coming coming coming coming coming coming coming. It's coming. It's coming. It's coming. It's coming. It's coming. It's coming. It's coming. I to come. I to come. I to come. I to come. I to come. I to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the thi the thi thi thi thi. I the best shopping center in... I love it, the biggest shopping center in Europe. It's great. It was great. It was great.

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We became obsessed with what people had in their phones, didn't we? Yes, so whenever everyone was taking photos, they'd pan their phone to like the people at Waterstones, and then we realized so many people have stuff on the back of their phones, the bus ticket. Bus stagecoach, that was a weird one. I'm not seeing a bus ticket in years like that, printed off. Normally it's just Oyster, in London, London, Br, Bromley, London Borough.

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Well, look, Josh, I'm not, I'm not, this is really off topic, but I'm actually tempted to go and get an Android phone. I don't I've just I think their adverts are really good. I just been you know like I've been absolutely marketed. You need a new phone within about a week when you drop your phone. But I was like I might just go I've always been Apple I might just completely change it up and go Samsung or Google. Yeah enjoy yourself Rob enjoy yourself. Enjoy yourself. You don't give a their you.. You don't. You don't. You don't. You don't. You don't. You don't. You don't. You don't. You don't. You don't. You don't. You don't. You don't. You don't. You don't. You don't. You don't. You don't. You don't. You don't. You don't. You don't give. You don't. You don't. You don't give. You don't. You don't. You don't. You don't. You don't. You don't. You don't. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. I the phone. I the phone. I the phone. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I the phone. I the phone. I the phone. I the phone. I the phone. I the phone. I the phone. I the phone. I the phone. I the phone. I the phone. I the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the phone. I'm the phone. I'm the phone. I'm the phone. I just think anyone that what I like about having an iPhone is when I don't know how to use it I can ask a friend how to use it do you know right but then you might start having more friends that are Android users I haven't got any friends that are Android users Rob there's no there's no Android in zone 2 of London is there just pure Apple and the media the media bubble mate fuck it. This is what I want to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the to the to the the to the to the the to to the to to the th. I th. I the tho tho tho th. I th. I th. I th. I th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is the the the the the the the the the the the the the th is the the the the the the the the the the. I the. I theeeeeeeeeee. I theeeee. I theee. I the. I the. I the. I the. I'm part of media bubble mate. Fuck it.

This is what I want to tell you Josh I was going to tell you yesterday but didn't want to talk about this first. There's the photographs of us at the book signing. Yeah, yeah. Have you seen the one of you? There's some normal photos of us. Yeah, there's some normals. There's some normals. There's some normals. There's some normals. There's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's the the the the the their normal their normal their normal there's some their normal there's some their normal there's some their normal their normal there's some there's some some there's some some some there's some some there's some there's some there's some there's some there's some there's some there's some there's some there's some there's some there's some there's some there's some there's some there's. There's. There's. There's. There's. There's. There's. There's. There's. There's there's the the their normal their normal their normal their normal their normal their normal their normal their normal. There's their normal their normal their normal normal their normal normal. There's some their their their their their their their their their their normal look like all Hasbullah, you look so small. You look like Ronnie Corbett. You do! But in the other photos, you look normal size? What's happened to me? Do you know what? Or put it on our Instagram? But you look so pathetic? Have I ever told you out when I did Apprentice Your Five with Karen Brady? No. And we came out to sit in our seats. Yeah. And she was like, thinne th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi th. thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi. th like, tho tho tho tho tho tho that that tho tho tho th like, th like, th like, th like, th like, tho tho tho tho tho tho tho the the other like, the other like, the other like, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. tho. tho. tho. thoooo. thoooooooooooo. You thoooooooooo. You thooooo. You tho. You're th. on a really low seat. All right. And she was like, well, I'm on a low seat. And I was like, well, I'm on a low seat. And I was like, well, I'm on a low. And I was like, we're swapping. I was like, we're swapping seats. And I was so

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I should say also, before we move on from the book, thank you to everyone who's left reviews on the on-audible. Oh yeah, they're really good the audio reviews. Because, thank you. We've got th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th tho, tho, who tho, who tho, who tho, who thou tho, who's thou thou thou, who's thou, who's tho, who's that's that's that's that's tho, who's tho, who's tho, who's, who's thu, who's thu. Who's thu. Who's, who's thu, who's thu, who's thu, who's, who's thu thu thu thu thu thu thu thu thu thu thu thu thu thou, who's thou, thou, thou, thu. Who's thou-a' thoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo, thaible. Oh yeah, they're really good the audio books. Because we've got over a thousand now and we've got an average of five stars over 1,025 reviews which apparently is incredible according to our publishers. Yes, thank you everyone for the audio book reviews. Now Josh in other news, I've got a confession. I think I kidnapped a child on Saturday night. Yeah, okay. Should I phone 999? No, because. the the the the the the the the th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, confession, I think I kidnapped a child on Saturday night.

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their, it was a firework display near our house. the school moms and dads were going to the firework display near our house and I was here with my two daughters and with Lou and with my daughter and I was there with my two of her mates and then I was playing with her daughter and she was playing with her schoolmates and I said to one of the dads I'll take them to the bonfire where you get a drink. There was like a cue for a drink. Anyway. So. So then. Then. Then. Then. Then. Then. Then. Then. Then. Then I I I I I I I I I I. Then. Then. Then I I I I was. Then I was. Then I was, then. Then I was I was, then, then, then, then, then, then I was I was I was I was I was I was with their. Then I was with their. Then I was with their. Then I was with me was with me was with me was with me was with their. Then I was with their. Then I was with their. Then I was with their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their. Then, then I was with their. Then, then I was with their. Then, I was. Then, I was. I was. I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was with, and I was, and I was with, and I was, and I was, with, with, and I was, with, with, their, their, and I was, their, and I was with, their, and I was to one of the dads, I'll take him to the bonfire, well you get a drink. There was like a cue for a drink. Anyway, so I walked over with her two schoolmates, but as I turned round, one of her schoolmates run off and his other girl just started joining us and I didn't realize because they all had coats on and acts in the dark. Yeah, they all look the fucking the same. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. their. their. their. their their their their to. Yeah. Yeah. Just. Just. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. their their their their their to to to two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two school school school two school two school two school two school two school two school two school too school too school too. school to school to school two schoolmate. S school two school two school two school two then the two schoolgirl friends are playing and dancing and my daughter's they're all quiet and I'm like, what's going on? You're right? She went, I don't know who that girl is.

I said, what? What? And I'd already taken photos of them by the bonfire. So I get my phone out because I thought there was another girl from school that I was supposed to be in charge of. And she's not there. And then there's this other new girl who I don't know and now I've got photos of, and I'm just taking photos of her. Yeah, because I thought she was another. It's so weird. And I'm like, this is mental. And I'm like, that's like, that's like, that's like, that's like, that's like, that's like, that's like, that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's supposed, that's supposed, that's supposed, that's supposed that's supposed that's supposed that's supposed that's supposed that's supposed that's supposed that's supposed that's supposed that's supposed supposed supposed, that's supposed, that's supposed, I was supposed, I was supposed, I was supposed. That's supposed. That's supposed. That's supposed. That's supposed. That's, that's supposed. That's, that's supposed. That's, that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's supposed. That's that's supposed. That's supposed. That's that's that's th. It's supposed to. It's supposed to. It's to. It's supposed. It's that's that's supposed. It's supposed. It's that's that's supposed. It's that's supposed. It's supposed. It's then it turns out that she knows my daughter's friend from school but from another reason and out of school class so she's run over and joined

in so I'm just there with coats of children I don't know just watching them dart and then my daughter's I don't know who she is you're holding a coat well yeah because she gave me a coat to Hulk so I thought it was a kid I know why did she give you the coat the coat because they're all because it was they are are are are are are are are are are are are are are are are are are they are they are they are their their I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I their their their their their their their their their their their their I was I was I was I was their their their their their I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was the the their I was their I was their I was their I was their I was their I was their I was their I was their I was their I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I was I I I was I was I was I was their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their th their their their their the their their their their their their their their their. But why do you? I was in charge. I was the only adult there. What did you do? Run. Well, I panicked and then I worked out that I knew that kid and then I basically, I worked out that I knew that kid and then I basically messed the dad of the other girl I thought I was looking after and she was with the that and she was like, theyrown.. and then and then and then and then, and then, and then, and thin, and thin, and thin, and thin, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And than, and thin, and than, and th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And than, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, I, I, I, I, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, th. And then, I was, I was, th. And then, th. And then, th. And then, th. And then, basically, basically, basically, basically, basically, basically, basically, basically, th. And then, basically, th. And then, basically, th. And then, th. And, th and she was like, oh yeah, no worries. I walked off. What? Left her? No. So I was just in charge of her. Didn't even take the fucking coat?

Unacceptable. Unacceptable. And then luckily the dad come back and then that other girl went and then all the school kids come round and stuff but it was so stressful. It's really weird isn't it? It was good though. I did have a massive error though. They wanted to come, the kids, one of my shoulders for the fireworks display and the fire, yeah, saw a picture of that. It's just too long. It's like, I was just listening going to end on Space Man. What was his name, Sam Ryder? Oh, I thought I remember I got a babelon zoo. Rob. See's the same, the same, the same, the same, th, th, was th, th, was th, was th, was th, was th, was th, was th, was th, was th, was thian, was thian. thi, was thian. thus, was thus, was thi, was just just just, was just, was thi, was the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the to to to to to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just thi, thi, thi, thi, that-a' that-a' that-a' that-a' that-a' that-a' that-a'er. that-a' th Rob. He's still going to end with Babylon Zoo's space man after 25 years on, right? No, we don't know, he won Eurovision with that nearly, didn't he? Yeah, I mean I don't know what care. I don't care about Eurovision. Mate, when you work at Radio 2, you need to know about Eurovision.

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I like that. Really nice. And our guest this week, Josh is Giovanna Fletcher. Queen of the Castle. Love Giovanna Fletcher. Great podcast, great person, and a great interview. Here is Giovana Fletcher. Do you want to do the intro Josh? So Rob always starts by saying do you want to do the intro Josh and then the intro is literally, hello Giovanna it's not an intro.

Giovanna Fletcher? It's like Queen of the Castle slash Jungle. Yeah but what we do we'll do all that beforehand so you don't have to sit here and listen to us talking about your credits because that's weird when you have to do that it is it is it's a a not a a a the the the the th th is it's a th th is a th is a th th th th is a th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to th. th. th. th. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. to to to to the. to have to do that. It is. It's a not thing. Yeah. How are you? Yeah, how are you? And can you let our listeners know how many children you got? What's your child set up at home? My child set up is that I have three children, three boys I've got two girls and Josh has got one girl. I find boys a nightmare. Do you? That's interesting. Rough, rough and tumble, isn't it?

I imagine if I had a little girl, I would be like, God, those boys. Yeah. They are, I mean I always call them quite feral, but really they are just, they like rough and tumble, they love being outside. Someone said to me once, with boys you've got to treat them like their dogs, they need to be outside, they need to be walked, they need to be fed and they need to sleep. And as long as those three things are happening, life's good. And at first I was like, don't compare my child to a dog. I totally respect what that man was saying and follow that formula and life is good. So what would you do on a rainy day with three boys? Oh, go outside anyway. Go outside, get your wellies on.

Hide. Yeah, all just hiding this cupboard and their life is good. You must be at the slightly like easy street as it were now at this point because they're not babies anymore. So they're doing stuff themselves especially the youngest of three always is a bit more you know can do more stuff at four than the eldest would because they copy. Well they've started doing this great thing at the weekends they do Buddy's breakfast bar so the middle one's called Buddy and literally will come down they'll be toast they've done it they've they've they've they've they've they've they've they've they'll they'll they'll they'll they'll they'll they'll they'll they'll they'll they'll they'll they'll they'll they'll they'll their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their tho. thooooooo. the. the. thooooooooooooo. their their their their their their their their they'll be cereal, they've done it for his brothers. Oh wow. And that, that is amazing.

That was a total game change. One of the moms at school said that she used to pre-do the cereal and just wrap it in cellophane, like she should get the bowl out. That's a much cleaner way of doing it. But for us, we're like, just go and sort yourselves out of, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, the're going to come down there's going to be rice crisps everywhere, a few corn flakes on the floor they'll probably be a milk spillage but in my head I'm also they've got to be a little bit independent you know and and and and leaning into that if they're enjoying it then brilliant that's great and they can always help clear up as well you know what I mean yeah that's that's the next that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's the next that's the next that's the next that's the next the next the next the next the next the next the next the next the next the next that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's the that's the the the the next the next the next the next the next the next the next the next the next the next the next the next the next the next the next the next the next the next the next the next the next the next the next the next the next the next the next that's the next that's that's that's the next step. Let's not run before we can walk Rob, come on.

So are you relaxed? So you're upstairs, still in bed while Buddy's breakfast bars going on. What's your level's relaxation there? It's fine. If there's no arguing going on, then I am asleep. It's absolutely fine. And I know that, you know, the whole, if they're quiet it means they're up to something that is definitely true. Yeah absolutely true. However they're also happy and they're not fighting each other because my kids

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Like there. Some people who are parents listening going, 8 o'clock, that's what you dream of aiming for. Yes, because it used to be 5 o'clock. Yeah, so you know, 8 o'clock is a massive step in the right direction. Don't get me wrong. Don't get me wrong on that. But I think you're, because you've got a one-year-old, you're still dreaming of the day where it's 11 or 12, but that never happens I don't think. No. No. And when it does actually, it's them and we'll be trying to get them out of bed.

Yeah, when they're teenagers, Rob. I can't imagine your children ever sleeping in, Rob. Well, I think the youngest is more likely to sleep with the boys I've seen like on holidays and school and stuff they're just mad for it. You sort of assume that we know like... Well you were one of four boys Rob were you fighting all the time. Yeah well my mom got put on a NSPCC watch list because we used to go to hospital so much like the bandedads. I mean that's a thing the amount of times we've gone on they've gone gone gone gone gone gone gone gone gone gone gone gone gone gone gone gone gone gone gone gone gone they've got got got got got got got got got got got got got got got got got got got got got got got got got got got got got got got got got the the time the time the time I the time I the time I the time I the time I've got. I've got. I'm the time I've got. I'm the time I'm the time I've got the time I've got the time I've got the time I the amount of of of the amount of of of of I I I the amount of I I the amount of I the amount of I I I I got I got I I got I got I got I got I got I got I got I got I I I I got I got I got I got I got I got I I got the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the they. I'm. I'm not. I'm the the the the for your podcast, but, so I'd gone on in for a sweep that day, so things were happening. And I was doing like a frantic last minute sweep, hiding up at the house, I knew the grandparents would come over.

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Oh, absolutely. We ate a lot of food and drank of wine. We definitely didn't do that in that. But we went back to, my dad was with us, it was dad, my sister Georgina and my brother Mario and we went back to Valva which is where dad grew up. So it's in the region of Campania, so Naples is near there, not too far away, about an hour and a half from there. Up in the mountains and it was kind of a little farming community really, everyone, everyone grows their own staff. But yeah, so we went back to Valva and just relived old memories there and that was brilliant. And then we went to the Amalfi Coast, to Iskia, to Naples, and then back to Valva and had our kids

come out with us as well. So we're looking at food and like different recipes and stuff, but not in the way that it's not a cooking show. It's a show that we are making a lot of food, a lot of wine and finding out how things are made and stuff but it's more sort of us just having a really good time. Oh nice. What kind of audience is it for would you say? Because obviously your brother Mario was in Tauwe and TV is quite a Tauwe like reality TV stuff but this feels quite family and pure it's not like drama you're not all going to be kicking off inside a proper light. Throwing a red wine in someone's face. And yeah, is that swin in your dad?

No, no wine was thrown. That's the only thing I think they would push dad over the edge and would create a drama. If we chucked our wine or like if we left some food, that would create a little bit of drama. Carnage. And so did your dad grow up in Italy? Yeah, dad moved over to England when he was 19 and he came with two suitcases. I love this. He had one suitcase was full of food and the other one had pasta and jars of tomato sauce because he didn't know what the English food was going to be like. Amazing. That's incredible.

How was it growing up then like, obviously, you know, like being Italian, heritage and your kids now, like, so British? Do you sort of try and instill some of that Italian in them like that and does your dad do it as well? I bet he's desperate from to sort of be more Italian almost as their granddad. Yeah but that's also why we love going back and tombaths going back as well actually because it is such a different life so they always had this sort of farmer community where they would trade ade the things they've been growing with each other so they'd go around to one person's house I've got some spare eggs I'm great

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important. It's not about what you have, it's about, you know, spending time with people you love. And in terms of Italian food as well, one thing I love th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, it is thi, it is thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, their is is their is their is their is their is is their is their is their is their is their is their is their is th. th. th. th. th. th. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thr. thrown, throwneeeean, throwneean, thrownee an throwne an theeean, throoooooooooo. And in terms of Italian food as well, one thing I love about it is that it is food for everyone. You know, it's not about going down to whole foods and getting some ridiculously expensive ingredients that no one can buy. It's about food you can literally grow and turn into something really, really delicious. Food you can put in a suitcase and take to Britain? Yes. Food you can emigrate with like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like their their their their theirto Britain, that kind of food. Who you can emigrate with? You can emigrate with like your Paddington.

So was your child a bit different having an Italian dad then compared to the other kids at school? Was it pretty standard? Um, I'd say it was pretty standard for us, like dad grew up with not much, you know, that thr frugal in that sense. You think you spoil your kids now because of like what, you know, the stuff you can do and... Well, no, I don't know if he does. But I think in terms, like we were definitely just shoved out into the garden, like just going out some fun up and down different sets of stairs, going up to the mountain to get water. It wasn't, you know, toys and things like that that my kids have.

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But he loves it it so we're all a bit like, oh okay let's try and help you in some way. That's that's tough isn't it if your kids are into football and you're not and you've suddenly got to show an interest in it. Yeah. I would say Tom is probably the least Italian man you could have ever married. Do you know what to line him up? If you nationality was, Italy would probably be about the 300 of option. But out of both of us, he wants to retire in Italy. He wants to go, be in the mountains, you know, yeah. Yeah, that's because he's having to spend two weeks in South America to an Olympic where where you get to you by Nespresso.

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though I was so nervous and just there was so much to focus on and think the end of the day, I remember the the the first the first the first the first the first the first the the the the the the first the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the their was the the the the the thoomber woombe. I was was was the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their another in the afternoon, and at the end of the day, I remember looking at this one baby on my left, I've been like, wow, I have not actually seen your face the whole time we've been filming. You know how you're just going through it all and just trying to pace it all together but not actually present? So that was a big, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that, that, that, that, that, that, that was a big, I, I that was that was that was tho, I tho, I tho, I that was tho, I tho, I tho, I tho, I tho, I tho, I tho, I tho, I tho, I tho, I tho tho tho tho tho th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I thi thi, I thi, I thi, I'm thi, I'm tha, tha, tha, tha, tha, tha, tha, tha, tha, tha, tha, tha, tha, that you're really there in the same way that you're there in parenting and stuff but I love the chaos I love how many baby clubs you knocking out in a day how many episodes yeah yeah yeah also not too stressful no no no the kids old you're their today that's a problem with kids TV you can't you know like Bradley Walt I'm you know I mean you've got no I to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the to to to to to to to to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the ttoy. I toy. I toy. I toy. toy. toy. toy. toy. I te. the toy. Okay, come on babies for doing our sixth of the day. Let's blast through this. Yeah, stop crying, fucking get on with it. Have a sleep tonight.

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to have a bit of private time. Yeah I find it difficult if the kids are clearly not wanting to stand there and whoever's stopped isn't registering that and letting us just go I find that difficult and there's always that sorry I know you're with your family but you have to honour that a bit like Tom wouldn't be off touring, you know, we wouldn't be living in a house that we're living in if we didn't have that connection with people. So it's a balance, isn't it? It's a balance. Especially when you're with the kids and they're like, can't go and go, can't go and you're going, I go, can't go, to go, I, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to be off, to be off, they, they, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, th, th. th. tho, tho, to, to, to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. but I'm trying to take my kid on the, and they're pulling her on your arm, and I want to go, and then you don't want to feel like you're, because you don't want to be rude to the people, but you don't want to be rude and ignore your child, you know.

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But people must go up to you in a pub and he like, well he was drunk and he just sort of sat at our table without sort of asking I was like oh hello right he was yeah what are you famous for I was like oh I did a bit of stand up where yeah cheese senior and that is that the extent to your fame is it and all like that and then I was pissed and I don't know if this is the most tragic thing I've the the the the the the the the the the the the the th th th th th th th thall thall th tha tha tha tha tha tha tha tha tha thi I've thra' thrific I've thrific I've ever thra' thrific I've tho tho tho tho tho tho thi. thi. I've thi. I'm thi. I'm thi. thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi to to to to thro to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to throoooo. thro thra. th to bet on the first one. Before I even hear it, it's going to be the first one, mate. I went, I think we should stop this conversation here because I don't think you're going to like the way it ends. Oh. Whoa.

But what I meant was trying to get across was like, 't really realize it sounded like I was going to fight him until I stopped talking and then I was just staring out in the eye and I'm like, I don't know what happens now because I basically said, if you don't fuck off I'm going to hit you. And what was his reaction? He absolutely crumbled and I was bigger than he, but I was he? It wasn't me, was it? No, it's probably about my hype, but it was quite very slight. There was nothing of him. And I was so happy that he left, because if he stayed, I was gonna have to, and then if he just went, how does it end? I'd go, I don't really know. Just with us having awkward chat actually, and you're not gonna enjoy it. I think I might have to punch you now because of what I've said but I don't want to but I've got myself in a hole. But yeah I can't ever imagine you or Tom telling anyone to

fuck off. No, no absolutely not. And actually like growing up I guess early days of McFly you'd always get sort of teenage lads trying to be quite clever and a bit cocky. Oh yeah, just jealous and because it was like the pop group rock band wasn't it? Yeah, but we never really, we never really went out and did the whole London thing that so many other people were doing at that time. You know, we would literally literally, just be going back to their house, they're having a little party at home and just dancing the eight of us. So if the four boys had their partners there, that was it, those were our rock and roll taste. Oh really? Just having like a little party at home

and it would happen most nights. But we knew that if we went out in London, that they would be a mixed reaction and you just would find someone who was, you know, wanting to show off to their mates and be a month angry jealousy of other people so it was either too intense with people going, oh my God, it's like, oh fuck, that, you know, it's quite a marmite kind of reaction, isn't it? I think you probably get that with music. Do your kids like Mockfly?

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Because sometimes when we've got the two girls and they run off of Lou doing stuff and they're like, no boys allowed. They always say that to me, no boys just girls. I do feel a bit like, oh, okay, you know, sort of like if they're not into the things that you're into? Yeah, I absolutely do get that. But the same time I've always got other stuff to get on with. So they like, okay, you're enjoying your band practice. Oh, Tom's in charge of this. See you later. It's quite enjoyable at the moment.

You're not missing it too much much today. the bandthey do, they got to a McFly gig back in July. And the band beforehand had gone on, and it was about half an hour until the McFly guys were gonna be on stage. And Buddy said, so when are we going to to go on? And Tom was like, you're not going on. It's a McFly show. So then he got really really upset. So Tom spoke to some of the tech guys because they have to go out and they have to line check every drum and every

guitar and everything like that and so they had agreed to let the boys go out with them. So they could do that apart. So the older two did it, Max didn't do it. So Buzz and Buddy went off they did their hair massive like homeover, they made themselves look really, really smart and they went on stage and they had practiced this, they went on, Buddy first of all started hitting the drums and then all of a sudden you can hear is doing a rhythm and then Buzz starts singing We Were Rocky. Really? It was like 10,000 people. Wow. It was absolutely.

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The crowd were like singing along. It was a mate, everyone was singing it. They're probably on a long-term contract from the baby club, they've got him in early, spreading them through the family. As a kind of one of the main names on CBBs, have you met Mr. Tumble? Yes, but not through that. I met, well no, I met him at the children's bafters, me and Tom. I think we must have only had bars at that point, but he's one of the only people that Tom has let me go and ask for a photo. We will literally... It's Mr. Tumble we have to get a photo with him. We were on the red carpet. Mr. Tumble didn't care who we were. But he did stop and he had a photo with us and Buzz couldn't believe it the next day.

Oh that's good to know. Was Mr. Tumble wearing a suit? He was wearing a suit. He was he was just in or was he being Mr. Tumble. He was Justin at that point, yeah. Yeah, yeah. And what's Justin? Like, what's the man behind the red nose? He's got to be lovely, hasn't he? To create such an inclusive, amazing show? Yeah. I have actually welled up at certain episodes of Mr. Tumble. He's a mega star, though, isn't he?

Yeah. Absolutely. Absolutely. Bluomble Arena. Does he? It must be absolutely minted. Is he though? Or is that going to creators? Oh? Okay. Now we're talking. Okay. Did you try and take the baby club on tour? Imagine the ice affixes on the rider? The baby club at Woblea arena. Nigel has done some like live baby club star. Apparently it's gone down really, really well. Really cute. Yeah. I imagine 12, thousand. A the the the the the the the th. Well. Well. Well. Well, th. Well, th. Well, th. Well, th. Well, th. Well, th. Well, that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's tho tho that's thoomoomo that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's thoing tho tho, th. Oh, th. Oh, th. Oh, th. Oh, th. Oh, th. Oh, th. Oh, th. Oh, th. Oh, th. Oh, th. Oh, th. Oh, th. Oh, th. Oh, th. Oh, th. Oh, th. Oh, th. Oh, th. Oh, tho. Oh, thoo. Oh, thoooo. Oh, thooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo. Oh, th. Oh, really well. Really cute. Yeah. I imagine 12, twelve thousand babies. A baby club at the O2. That would be an incredible experience. Surely someone's got to have done the biggest like baby group for like the Guinness Book of Records or something. Let me Google. Let me Google. You two chat. I'm just going to get tumbled. I'm just going to tumble to open Glastonbury. I. I. I to to open. I. I. I to open. I to open. I th. I their. I th. th. th. th. th. their th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. the. that- th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the baby th. th. th. the baby th. the baby. the baby. the baby. the baby. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the their th. th. th. the. the. the. the. the. the. to. thea. to. todd. todd. toda. toda. today. tha. tha. tha. the Friday night. Imagine Tumble doing a set. It would go down so well. Oh he got to get tumbled, he hasn't got a kid so, is he, is he,

Justin? No, uh, 19 pounds. Jesus Christ. Wow! 19 pounds, three ounces. How do you give birth to that? That is incredible, isn't it? That's got to be. It's got to be.

Or just legs off. Was it a baby animal? Yeah, it was? It was a cesarean. Wow. There's no biggest ever baby club or baby group. So do emailing if you've been in a big baby group. Giovanna, you've interviewed some mega styles on your podcast, right?

How do you prepare for that? Because you are really slick and very good at your job. What we do is, quite frankly, sometimes a fucking joke. It's a shambles. I've just th. I've just th. I've just th. I've just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just th. I've just just th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thuuble. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. tho. thi. thi. th. to to to to th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. to. too. too. too. too. tooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo. It's. It's. It's a shambles. I've just googled the biggest ever baby. You're right to do that. I stand by that, Josh. I wouldn't say that's one of the negative points of our show. So how much prep you did? Did you speak to the princess, Catherine? Is that right? Yeah, I did. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I get really nervous. I get really nervous before every single episode. See that's our problem. We don't that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the negative negative negative the the the point it's dangerous. We need to be more nervous. We started in lockdown there was never any pressure it just feels the same feels like it's still COVID not gonna about. Isn't it crazy that you're like this

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because of the back of this chat we didn't get that long with Gary Neville we didn't get up our game Josh we need to get us new mics or something at least some edfoams at work for a minute turned into us being in a. For a minute turned into us being in a the room for to to to to to to to to to the room. I I I I I I I I I the room. I I the the the the the the the the the the to the to be in. I the the to be in. For. For. For. For. For. For. For. For. For. For. For. For the to bea. For. For. For. For. For. For. For, to bea' to bea' to bea' to bea' to bea' to bea' their, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we's, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the. We're the the thin, the the th. We're they. We're they. We're they. We're thi. We're to bea'-I. We're thi. We're the room for almost an hour and 20 minutes. Oh my God. Because she'd listen to other episodes before coming in, obviously part of her briefing I would imagine is kind of, this is the kind of chat. No, they're human people, they're listening to stuff. Yeah. Hello, Will, hello, Kate, if you're listening. We know you're there.

Come and chat if you're fucking hard. We're not going to ask for an hour 20? We're not going to ask. So you had an hour and 20 minutes? Did they cut a lot of it out or did you have to send it for approval and stuff? We did there again. There's definite approval stuff and beforehand, so I wrote out sort of like a plan for the episode and what I would ask. So you have to send that to them? Yes. That's what we're we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, th, th. We're, th. We're, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, they. We're, they. We're, th. th. the. the. the. the. they. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. tha. to. Fuck off, no chance. BIA. But they didn't send that until the night before. So I sent that in and the coms guy phoned me straight away and it was like, you know, I'm not sure if they did hypnoticthing. I don't know if she'll talk about, you know, the extreme morning sickness or this or

or that, but I'll take it to her. She's not met Rick Roller Rick Rick Rick Rick Rick Rick Rick Rick Rick Rick Rick Rick Rick Rick Rick Rick Rick Rick Rick Rick Rick. She hasn't, yeah, don't even bother with that question. Yeah. And then while she was being briefed, Prince William was in the room and he just said, just talk, just do all of it, just answer all the questions freely. And if you get to the end of it and wish you hadn't spoken about, hit-reberthing or whatever, they can edit it out, it's absolutely fine. And I think for herself. Is that what you got from it, yeah? It's like the headline? Just looking for a, just looking for a podcast title. Can't blame me? It's just a journalist doing my job. They call me the ice cream man, scoop after scoop. Mr. Whippy one, but I didn't have energy to think of anything funny. Oh, sorry. So yeah, so, and then she just spoke, did she?

Sorry for interrupting. Yeah, yeah, no, she just spoke freely and then like every podcast gets edited down. So when you're sat down and you've got this list of questions to ask Kate, Princess Kate, where you have to call her Duchess? What did you have to call her the Duchess? the Duchess? the Duchess? the Duchess? the Duchess? the Duchess? the Duchess? the the the to call the the to call to call their? She? She? She? She? She? She? She? She? She? She's? She's? She's? She's, thu? She's, to to th. She's, tho? She's, she's, she's, she's, she's, she's, she's, she's, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she? She? She? She? She? She? She? She? She? She? She? She? She? She? She? She? She? She? She? She? She? She? She? She? She? She? She? She? She? She? She's? She's? She's? She's tha? She's tha? She's tha? She's tha? She's tha? She's just just? She's tha? She's just? She's just? She's tha? She's? She's? She's? She's? She's? She's? She was then Catherine or the Duchess, yeah. Duchess. But now she's princess. And she can't cater off. No, because she's not Kate. No one calls her. No, they'll call her Catherine. Catherine, yeah, yeah, yeah. And even then it was the Duchess, but now the Princess. You'd be Robert, you'd be Robert if it came to it.

Well if I was the... If you married... Do Beat... Do Beat... Do Beat... Do Beat... Do... Do... Do... Do... Do... Do... Do... Do... Do... Do... Do... Do... Do... to the Royals at that stage. They're gene pulse full of teeth already. They don't need me getting involved. So you've got Catherine, how nervous are you when you're asking the questions? And did you relax as it went on? I was really nervous, and I did relax. And actually I do a thing with my questions.

I had this thing really early on my career, where I was doing a Facebook live with someone. It was like like like like like like like like like like like I was like like like I was like like like I was like like like like I was like like a th. their their theirthing and all the questions had been given to me on a flip chart. So nothing had been given to me in my hand and I can remember asking this person a question listening to the first bit and then looking back at the flip board just so I could glance at what was coming next and the person I was interviewing stop talking in kind of like a if you're not going to listen to me I'm not going been so disappointed. Well, I'm just going to spend the afternoon googling, Giovanna Fletcher, Facebook like this. But I was so disappointed in this person. I'm going to have a little look now while you carry on.

Don't let me distract you. Because not only will I look at my questions at all. So I might be surrounded by pieces of paper when I do the podcast, but they're just like a security blanket, other than actually the podcast that you came on, Rob, when we talk to Disney, because that is a bit more formulaic, whereas with Happy, um it out the door and not actually look down on my notes. Also, you know when you're interviewing Rob, there's nothing that's going to stop him talking. No, I know I'm back there. He's quite out when someone looks away. You'll just plow on. And what's it at a Waterstones event, the time you got told off by you interviewed now? Okay,

all right. You can't you. You dick that one. I'll tell you what to us. Okay, I'll just tell the audience, perfect. Yeah, it's not a problem. No, no, off record. But if you see you in the street, I will tell you. So, no, yeah. Do you know whatcores. It's going to happen. I think we've learned a lot of lessons here, Rob, about quite how bad would be. I don't think he would be bad. I think you'd have a great time. Do you think? Yeah, I don't think anything will go out, really. The final question, is it, the final question, that was one thing that Tom does, we we we we we we that we that we that we that we that we that we that we that we th. th. tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thin, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. I, thi, every time. Yeah, so just that's kind of coincidence.

What's one thing that Tom does parenting-wise that drives you mad and really annoys you? And what's one thing he does where you go, oh, that's so amazing. He's such a wonderful dad? We'll go negative then positive. Okay. I would say... Two years it took us to realize to do that by that by the way. By that by that by that by that by that by that by that by that by that by that by that by that by that by that by that by that by that by that by that by that by that by that by the other. Yeah, we don't get bogged down. Yeah, that's why we're not ready for Kate, Catherine. Were you just giving the negatives before there? Just in negatives and left it that, yeah. What's one thing that Prince William the future King of England does that annoys you? Imagine I'm struggling that question. Nicholas Wichel panicking with his notes going I don't even know what trip trap tree is. I've got to be on this morning in nine months time because there's a tour of somewhere. Sorry sorry so the thing that Tom does when he gets to bath time and bedtime I

try and make it nice and said and nice and calm you know inside voices blah blah he's there with a guitar you know really getting quite excited and doing the opposite of actually what bedtime that would annoy me. Have a day off mate. Yes, okay classic, fair enough. Classic performer. Yeah, and you know it's lovely to hear them all giggling and laughing and all that stuff. But the same time it's bedtime and this will go on forever if you yeah, if you roll them up. I don't want to hear a laugh post 630pm thank you very much. He's the the the the the the the the the toy toy toy toy toy's toy's toy's th is th is th is th is th th th th is thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. them up. I don't want to hear a laugh post 6.30pm, thank you very much. His tours are hard work, Josh, he's struggle, isn't you? And he can guarantee that on his tour.

Josh would have been no laughs after 630. He rips it in the sound check at 6. But I tell you what, you know, that creativity that it brings into being a dad is amazing. You know, the fact that he can go off and have a little band practice with them for an hour while I get on with everything else. It's pretty magical. You know, I really see how he inspires our kids. So that's a massive. That's lovely. tha. tha. tha. thiiiiiiiiiii, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's thi. thi, I's thi, I's thi, I's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's a massive. Oh that's nice. That's lovely thank you so

much. That's really sweet it was very nice on it Josh. Thank you look at you two as well you're so bang on it in terms of time. We pretend it shambolic we're fucking lethal. Yeah we're all of that you're not gonna believe that all of that all of that was written every word of that that we've done so we just pretend it's all it's all put on just to make us look jam on it with fucking animals for it yeah machine do you want to know the most amount of children someone's ever had just because it's just sat there yes yes yes come because it's the same Google of biggest ever baby group she had 69 children I'll tell you how that breaks down

16 pairs of twins seven sets of triplets, four sets of quadruplets between 1725 and 1765, total of 27 births. Oh my God. Oh my God. That feels like a lie. It makes my afternoon feel less stressful. Yeah. But I have Googled the internet so it is true. Well thank you very much, Giovana. Thank you so much fun. And to chat out to your my my my my my my my my my my my my the podcast my the podcast the podcast the podcast the podcast the podcast the podcast the podcast the podcast the podcast the podcast the podcast the podcast the podcast the podcast the podcast the the the the the the the the the the the twin thea the twin twin twin tips tips tips tips tips tips tips tips tips tips tips tips tips tips tips tips tips tips tips tips tips tips tips tips tips tips tens of tens of tens of tens of tens of tens of tens of te te te te te te te twins twins twins twins twins twins twins twins twins twins twins twins twins twins twins te te te te true. Well, thank you very much, Giovanna. It's been an absolute joy. Thank you so much fun. And the chat out to your podcast again and your new show. Let everyone know, yeah, where they can watch it. The podcast is Happy Mom, Happy Baby. You can get it from wherever you can get your podcast from.

And the TV show is that thank you so much. Cheers, thank you. I was speaking again soon, I'm sure. Thanks so much. Bye. Bye. Bye. Giovanna Fletcher. What a woman. Brilliant.

Love that. It's great. Should we just call it. You've got something to me? No, I like, oh you know, she's lovely but you know sometimes you think oh might just be quite serious, you know, but she's not. She's really fun, loves her kids and really funny. So you know it's a great podcast. I think that show will be good as well. She's a bloody laugh. Thank you very much for listening and we'll see you next week.