Parenting Hell with Rob Beckett and Josh Widdicombe - S05 EP38:Tom Parry (The Return)

Episode Date: December 2, 2022

 Joining us this episode to discuss the highs and lows of parenting (and life) is the return of the brilliant comedian, actor and writer - Tom Parry. Tom's new film 'Your Christmas or mine?' is available now on Amazon Thanks, Rob + Josh. We're going on tour!! Fancy seeing the podcast live in some of the best venues in the UK? Of course you do, you're not made of stone! Tickets available now on the dates and at the venues below. We can't wait to see you there... ON SALE NOW  14th April 2023 - Manchester AO Arena 19th April 2023 - Nottingham 20th April 2023 - Cardiff  21st April 2023 - London (The O2) 23rd April 2023 - London (Wembley) 28th April 2023 - Birmingham Utilita Arena  If you want to get in touch with the show here's how: EMAIL: [e-mail] TWITTER: @parenting_hell INSTAGRAM: @parentinghell A 'Keep It Light Media' Production  Sales, advertising, and general enquiries: [e-mail] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hello, I'm Rob Beckett. And I'm Josh Widdickham. Welcome to Parenting Hell, the show in which Josh and I discuss what it's really like to be a parent, which I would say can be a little tricky. So, to make ourselves and hopefully you feel better about the trials and tribulations of modern-day parenting, each week we'll be chatting to a famous parent about how they're coping. Or hopefully how they're not coping. And we'll also be hearing from you the listener with your tips, advice, and of course,

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Three and eight months. Three and eight months. Three and eight months. Woo-hoo! Mama. We've been listening from the start and laughed every week. Except one. No. It's kept us sane. My husband, Ben and I like to use a Crosby's law question to passively aggressive say,

they say what's annoying us in a joky, in quotation-marked way. We haven't tried the nice the nice nice nice nice nice nice nice nice nice nice nice nice nice nice nice nice nice nice nice nice the nice. the nice. the the the to to toe. toe. toe' too' too' too' too' too' too' too' to to to to to to to to too' to to. to. to. to. We' to. We' to. We' to. We' to. We' th. We' th. We' th. We'n'n'n'n'n'n'n'n'n'n'n'n'n'n'n'n'n'n'n'n'n'n'n'n'n'n'n'n'n'n'n'n'n'n'n'n'n'n'n'n'n'n'n'n'n'n'n'e. the. the. tho'e'e'e'e'e'e'e'e'e'e'e'e'e'e'e'e'e'e'e'e'e'e'e'e'e'n' way. We haven't tried the nice bit yet. Thanks for the laugh. Danielle Walker, 34 years old. How are you, Rob? Yeah, I'm all good. Another gig more gigs don't are nearly home, be home next week. So I'm very excited about coming home. When you get home are you going to go big style on being a great parent? Like to make up for it, do you know what I mean? Well, Lou's going away in January with a friend, like five nights, so that's Lou sort of little trip away to look forward to.

So she's got that, but yeah, when I get back, we've got loads of stuff planned that they're gonna have a kids Tuesday, where they get to choose what wall climbing in the to start the morning so we're going to go that and do that as a family all of us are going to do it and then they can do whatever they want they can choose. If anyone's got any advice or some sort of ground rules on if anyone's done the kids choose stuff and they also call it a yes day in America we just have to say yes oh Oh my word, are you nervous about that? I'm quite excited actually. It's really quite fun because then it's something like, most of the time I do want to

say yes, but my sort of adult parent brain goes, oh no, I probably shouldn't do that, should I, also when I just say that out loud, I'm a dad with responsibilities as to go, no, you shouldn't do that because of this, but I just sort of like at the moment I'm just a bloke and just wanders around and then does a gig. Yeah, because I'm trying to live in the moment. I'm like, oh yeah, I've got kids, haven't I? That I have to sort sort of tear off sometimes. I just dawned on me that I've got like children. When you're looking after them, you're so in it. I'm looking after him.

I've got children. I'm just a man who sleeps, shit, I walk. You're just a man who sleeps, shit and walks. That's all you are at the moment. Absolutely. I sleep, I walk, I walk and talk on stage and then go back to sleep again. But yeah. As I'm talking to, I was like, yeah, I've got children.

I sort of, you sort of forget, when you're in the middle of your life, you sort of forget what you're doing, don't you? When you're busy with, like, when you have space to think, I've got a wife and children. I'm old. I've realized I was old as what in the strip. I met up with one of my friends who were in Adelaide. If anyone's read my book, I met out with a Howard, so this lovely family that sort of took me under their wing. Yeah, when I was in Adelaide, a years ago when you're a young buck. I did it again. A young buck. I keep saying I had no money. I was in a young. I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was a th. I was a th. I was a th. I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was a th. I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was a. I was a. I was a th. I was a th. I was a th. I was a th. I was a th. I was a th. I was a th. I was a th. I was a t. I was a tried, I was a too. I was a th. I was a th. I was a th. I was a th. I money, I was skinned and they looked after me and drove me around and bought me dinners and stuff like that. Anyway, so their daughter who's like a grown-up now, she's like a 25-year-old midwife, she lives up near Brisbane, so I met her for some lunch and stuff like that and you know,

it's nice to catch up and friends turned up, and they're all 25. And like, they're not like, they're they're all 25, they're they're they're all 25, they're they're th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, that, thi, thi, thi, thi, th-a, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thir thirty, thirty, thirty-a'''' thirty-a'-nough, thou-n't, thirty-a'-a'-a'er, thirty-a, thirty-a, thirty-nough, then it's like young, 25's like a grown woman, isn't it? Like, it's a prop, that's like an adult. It's not like 19 or twenty- All right, I can't talk to the police now. No, but I just felt 36. I was just sat there and I was like, I am so fucking up. Yeah, the jump between 25 and 35 and you've got two kids. I was like, this is fucking, this is fucking, this is fucking, this is fucking, this is fucking, this is fucking, than, thin's thin's this is fucking, thin's thin's thin's thin' thin' thin' thin' thi, thi, thi, thi, thi. I's like, thi, thi. I's th, th, th, th, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, th, th. No, th. No, th. No, th. No, th. No, th. No, thi. No, thi. No, thi. No, thi. I's, thi. I's, thi. I's, I's, I's, I's, I'm, thi. I'm, no, I'm, no, no, I'm, no, no, no, no you get like a middle-aged divorcee who then gets a young partner? I always think the worst thing about that. I think one on one, I think that would be all right. The worst thing would be when you've then got to go and like socialize with their friends. Do you know what I mean? When you're the old person going on the lash with some 25 year olds, you'd just be like,

this is weird. Yeah, because also they're quite like, you know, grown up, they've got careers and they got, but like, and they were lovely, but I'm like, I'm 36 and they're 25, it's not even a big gap. If I had a 25 girl friend, it would be like, oh that's a big gap, but it wouldn't be like, oh my God, that's disgusted. I was 11 years is a bit too long, but it's not like, it's not like newspaper like, yeah, purvey relationship is if you see some of these old folks have like 20-year-old, but I was like, I was like, I just stood there in the call in a the call in the call in the. I'm not just stood there in the call of like an end-ups concert going, what the fuck

am I doing here? I'm dressed up like your 25. Oh, I tell you what, I tell you, I went to a dualipa gig on my own. Oh yeah, you did say this on the show? They were lovely, but they were just like, about 25 minutes, it was just like, they were all traveling and someone, one of my boyfriends, one of them didn't and they were just talking about, and they were like, yeah, just go up and do that. Did they know who were. Either, either, they would come up to Brisbane if I'm going to come to the show she went brilliant I come my friends can I have four tickets

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ago because she didn't know she was coming. They met me in the bar, so I'm meeting these two people the first time. My tour manager is there, lovely Justin, who I have only known for two weeks. Right? So no one really knows anyone. his drinks. And then we go every couple of drinks, we go and get some food. And Justin went, oh, my cousin and his girlfriend are in town. They're going to come for dinner. I was like, okay, I'm sat on a dinner table. I don't know these people. I know it either. I know it either.

I know it either. But anyone else, everyone else I've known for about an hour. And no one else knows each other either. I felt like a mature student, you know like, well you have to meet everyone that's when you call. Oh God. Oh, hello, yeah, I'm 36. Yeah, it didn't really work out for me. I'm back here now. What am I like?

Do you want to couple of Boomer Australians stories? Yeah? Yeah before we go into the guest? Yeah? I love what's got an Australian special. Go on? Yeah. Howdy? Grew up in Darwin in the 70s, early 80s and spent a lot of weekends camping in the bush. One trip that stands out, this feels like I've just made up an Australian email doesn't it? But there we go. Howdy. Gowdy. Gowdy. Gow up that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th is th th th th th th th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th th th th th th th we we th we th we th we we th is th. the tho the tho the thooooooooooo. the the the the the the the the thooooo. the the tho.oddy doesn't sound Australian, does it? No. Good day. Grew up in dark night. Absolutely thaw can rip her. One trip that stands out, the mom's job, so that the one trip stands out with a couple of other families into the bush.

About eight kids under 12. The mom's job was to sort the dads were on drinks. We drove for three hours into the middle of nowhere. Arrive, no shade, 38 degrees men, dying of thirst. The only drink that they bought for four days was beer. No water. No soft drink. Just beer. This is humor, he's viewing into just sort of terrible parents and it's not. It got worse. The spot they chose to set up camp was downwind of a dead buffalo. I still, my thi thick, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no shade, no, no, thi. thi. thi. thi, no shade, no shade, no shade, no shade, thi. thi, no shade thi, no shade thi. thi, no shade thi, no shade thi, no shade thi, no shade thi, no shade thi, no shade thi, no shade, no shade, no shade, no shade, no shade, no shade, no shade, thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi, thi, thi, thirty, thirty, thirty, thirty, thirty, thirty thirty thirty thirty thirty thirty thirty thirty thirty thirty thirty thirty thirty thirty thirty thirty thirty thirty thirty thirty thirty thirty thirty got worse. The spot they chose to set up camp was downwind of a dead buffalo. I still feel sick think of that smell. Day two, a ranger shows up to announce that we are meters from a crocodile nest. Of course we didn't move or leave. The only reason we got water was because they had bags of ice to keep the beer cold. Cheers Vicki. Oh my God Vickie. bags of ice to keep the beer cold. Cheers, Vicky. Oh my God, Vicky it.

Are you allowed to drink bags of ice? Well, I think, desperate times, desperate measures really. Better than a buffalo carcass and a bar and a beer or something. Oh, that is bad, in it. Yeah. The sun's so hot here. I think it's a different one. I think they've got their own one. You want to hear this is a good one? Hey, Josh and Roll. Thanks for being my favourite sexy duo, even though I'm 26, childless, and some British references go right over my head as a Sydney Australia dweller. Rob, this is exactly the kind of person you go out for a drink with. In the 70s, my great-grandmother was babysitting my uncle and mum. She disapproved of my uncle's middle name.

So one day, took him to the city hall and had his middle name legally changed without telling his parents. No. Laura from Sydney. That is incredible, isn't it? That is bananas. I've to tell you about my friend. I've got to be quite delicate with this. I've still still still still still still still still still still still still still still still still still still still still still still still still still still still still still still still still still still still still still still still still still still still still still still still still still still still still still still still the story story story story story story story story story story story story story story story story story story story story story story story story story story story story, you the story, you've the story, the story story the story, the story, the story, the story, the story, the story, the story, the story, the story, the story, the story, the story, the story, the story, the story, the story the story the story the story the story the story the story the story the story the story the story the story the story the story,. I've got to be quite delicate with this.

I've got to try and change it slightly so it's still, you get the story about it been too obvious to it is. My friend's parents looked after their child and dropped him back at the house, dropped him back at the home. Yeah. And then they'd taken him to get his first haircut. No. Oh my word. What have you changed? That's all I think. Not enough. Not enough.

Let's leave it that. Right, who we got? We have got an absolute parenting hell classic returning. If you haven't listened to the original episode with Tom Parry, go back and listen to it now. It was one of our great early episodes, a man absolutely at the end of his tether, or not even a man absolutely positive in the worst situation possible as an early month's parent.

We rejoin him two years later to see how he's doing. We need to say a bit of a warning Josh we talk a lot about Christmas and Father Christmas. Yes, so just be aware of... I wouldn't listen to this one with children. I wouldn't listen to this one with children. Hello and welcome to Parentonel for the second time Mr. Tom Harry and I'm very excited about this. Josh is excited he's gonna rub his hands together in a minute he does that sometimes. Talk about one of the most legendary episodes. I don't really remember it you know it's like I've had things I've said quoted back to

it feels like you know when you get hammered and you have one of those nights where you're blackout drunk and then the next two weeks of people reported it back to you. That's kind of how that record feels to me. Yeah. But people still say to be chicken beer because of the euros. Yeah, exactly that too. And it's Tom at the height of having a new baby. How far in do you reckon we were, Tom? I think it was like six or seven weeks. Six or seven weeks. And you were doing shifts all through

the night so your partner would have the baby to like 1 a.m. 2 a.m. and then you'd take over till the morning Yeah. And you was really excited about it and thought it was just normal and great was basically. Yeah. And you'd sit up all night with a baby on you watching the Da Vinci-Code and eating two Satsumas or something and drinking coffee. And you had your special coffee and water. the special coffee. Yeah. Before we do that, th, th, th, th, th, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, th th th th th thi tho tho thi thi thi thi tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, and tho, th th th tho, th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th is thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi that that, and that that, that that that that that that that that that that that that time, I suppose is the first question. Before we do that, could we ask what people quote back at you from that, Tom, as a reminder? But well, people just keep saying like, are you okay? It felt mad. And like, what was such a weird kind of juxtaposition? It was like, my wife and I thinking, we're nailing this. And like, we've really got this down. And then like an entire country telling us we're not.

People who I haven't spoken to since I was at school on face, but we're like, congrats on the baby. It's mad what you're doing. I'm spoken to you in 20 years. So that was kind of like a universal feedback, which we weren't quite expected really. I mean, we didn't change what we were doing. We definitely stuck to our guns. So how long did you stick to it? Or are you still stuck to it? I don't know, no, don't worry, we're not still stuck to it. We should just say, for the listeners, what's the intervening period been 18 runs do you think? Yeah yeah daughter is now two yeah was two at the end of

September. So about almost two years exactly yeah yeah just kind of a nice distance really to look back from. No we're obviously not still doing that but it does feel like we're kind of stuck in a sort of version of that but like a softer version of it oh Oh yes please. Yes please. Get his little face. I really realize I've never seen Josh happy until we started doing this podcast and people talk about difficulties of children and it's his only time he's really experiencing joy. A life driven by Charlotte. Yeah. That's kind of parenting summed up in a sentence isn't it really?

We still kind of have like a tag system I guess where we were with Jane's mom for the first kind of six months or so and then we got our own place which made a hell of a difference. I mean the one thing I didn't realize was just how amazing it is living with your mother-in-law for that first bit of time. Because like yeah, yeah, laundry, my God, like I hadn't even thought about laundry. And now I look back on that and think... So she did all the washing? She did all the washing? So she was washing your pants as well? Yeah, yeah, yeah, she was doing the lot. What a shift. Because like, I don't know how delicately to say this, Tom, but, this, th. this, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, thi, thi, thi, thi, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi. thi. to too. too. too. too. too. too. toee. too. toea. too. tha. tha. tha. tha, tha. know how delicately to say this, Tom, but I've spent some time and you can play football with you. I wouldn't want to wash your clothes. You're a big, sweaty man. I can't be insulted by that. It's the truth. Also, a man that doesn't wear pants. Well, I try

and reduce the load, you know. I've got Thelma's interest at heart, you know. Yeah, it's no pants just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just my jeans just just just just just just my jeans just just just just just just just my jeans just just just just my jeans, just my jeans, just the jeans, rubbing you can wash them. How often do you watch your jeans if you're not wearing pants? Because I don't really wash my jeans that often. No you're not supposed to wash him no that often. But yeah but you're supposed to be wearing pants and not having your bare ass on them. I only go Commando on on football days. you're getting quickly changed for a gig. Yeah, exactly. And I'm always surprised when it's just shorts off nothing else. What does Possible sound like for your business? It's having to spend to power your scale with no preset spending limit. Redefined possible with Business Platinum.

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You know you're supposed to freeze your jeans? Oh yeah? If you put genes in a freezer overnight, it kills as much bacteria as if you wash them. But you don't damage your jeans. Right. I do agree that, and the moment you start washing jeans, they never look the same. Yeah, totally agree. Anyway, I digress. But freeze your jeans. Put them in a carrier bag. Would you clear out a shelf in the freezer or you putting them on top of your hash browns? Yeah well we had a situation like this we had moths a

few years ago and anything that's been mothed you meant a freezer shove it in the freezer to kill all the moth eggs so we had a period where our freezer was like you know Linda McCartney sausages pizza and then like a scarf like just for like a few weeks. Yeah. Well get your jeans in there? Yeah, I will. I will do. Sort of, I bet it's nice as well. Like I would quite enjoy putting the one straight out the freezer, wouldn't you? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I quite like putting a wet tee shirt on that's just been put out to dry in the summer and I let it just dry my body. Oh yeah sexy. Keep talking. There's some people at home absolutely loving this. Sorry, what are we talking about moving out? My nipples go rock hard and I'm just lying in the sun.

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but then you worry that they're getting too hot. But if you have the radiate that are on and then they're in less clothes, the radiate is going to go off at certain point. Oh, it's so difficult. Can I make a confession? Go on. Go on. I still don't th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho the the tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho the the the the the the room the the tho the tho the th. tho th. tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho the the the to to to to to to to toooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo the. tho the. the temperature numbers mean. I never know what temperature is good or bad. I mean that in a day time. When someone goes it's 27 outside today, I go, I don't know what the temperatures mean. I thought I knew until like in a hotel room, if I've got it on 20 degrees or 19 degrees, I'm freezing cold, but I've been outside in 90 degrees, getting sun burnt in my top off. Yeah, I don't understand well as a cold 19 and a hot 19. And then Rose's mom turns up and uses the other numbering system. Oh, well like 78? No.

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Okay, but you're just in the bed together for a bit. For a bit. And does, will she go asleep until the baby cries or just go in there by habit? At the moment, goes in there by habit? At the moment goes in there by habit right because then she can just get as much sleep as possible and has to do as little as possible when yeah that that six-second commute would really disrupt the apple cart if she fell asleep in her own bed. Look it's very important that I have that king-sized bed to my sa- I'm just sorted the house from I'm naked. He's knackered. He's having make love for 30 minutes every night. He's exhausted. And then you sort of wake up with them if they wake up, even though you're not doing

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Like a pick up artist from the 90s. This is how you're doing, lads. I mean, my daughter's very subtle, but she think she's very skillful at it at at at at at's very skillful at doing stuff like that, like when we say like, oh you can't have a feed until, because we're trying to kind of reduce. And then she like kind of goes, oh mommy, can I just look at your um, boob, please? And like Jane'll be like, the feed. It was your chat line originally though with James, wasn't it? Yeah, yeah, I made you to chip off the old block. Yeah, I'm very proud. a beer and the perfect pairing for your game time. When Miller Light set out to brew a light beer, they had to choose great taste or 90 calories per can. They chose both because they knew the best part of beer is the beer. Your game time tasks like Miller time. Learn more

at Miller.C.A. Must be Legal Drinking Age. Josh mentioned a mens re-holiday in X film because we should talk about your current film. It's coming out for Christmas. Yes. I'm so excited about this, Tom. I'm a huge Christmas film fan. I'm a fan of you. So this is, this is big. I love a Christmas film. I've always kind of, it's the, but they're the best type of films. So yeah, I've written a Christmas film called Your Christmas or mine and it's on Amazon Prime. It'll be on Prime video on the 2nd of December. Oh, Your Christmas or mine. Yeah. What's the premise? It's um... I've asked you, but I know the premise and it's a great premise. It's like these two students who have just fallen in love and they're in a same time just after they said goodbye they both think, do you know what fuck it I'm gonna go and spend Christmas with the person who I love and they cross in the train station get on each of their's trains

and end up at each other's family homes for Christmas. Oh that's a great idea. Yeah there's like a huge snowfall no transport and they're off on the doorstep to surprise them and they're, oh yes, I'll buzz that, that is good. That is really great. And it's got Daniel Mays in it, is that correct? It's got Daniel Mays in it, it's got Aes of Mays in it, he's got Ayes of Butterfield from sex educations in it, Harriet Walters in it, David Bradley from the Crown. Yeah, and Ram John Holder who was pork pie in Desmond's. Yeah. Pork pie's in it, he plays the Granddad. He's still alive. He's still alive, mate. He's amazing. We'll be a coarse bit of casting if he was dead.

Very Christmas, he's that bloke in the corner. Yeah, amazing bloke. Yeah, he's on set, singing and dancing every day. He's amazing guy. And who are the romantic Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah..... Yeah. Yeah..... Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.ke, yeah. He's on set singing and dancing every day. He's an amazing guy. And who are the romantic leads? Yeah, so it's Ace of Butterfield, who's from sex education, and then Cora Kirk, who's a newcomer. It's kind of like her first big role. So I think she's gonna be kind of like the breakout stars.

Ah, brilliant. That's so good. So excited then. So excited, yeah. I mean, it's a weird feeling because we finished it just in time for last Christmas, weirdly, but you know, they can't put it out. Oh, yeah, they have to just wait another year. Yeah, so I've just been sitting on it for a year, really. Was it one of those things, like, you know, and was it like you were doing it in the middle of summer, but you're doing a Christmas film? Yeah, we filmed it in August. Obviously, like every exterior shot is a snowstorm.

So there's this company called Snow Business. And it's their job year round to kind of make it snow on screen. So they rock up with like snow machines and white carpets and all that kind of gubbins and make it snow. Amazing. So we were there in the middle of August. That must have been brilliant, wasn't it? Yeah. And there's like, you know, big cranes blocking out the sun. Mental. It was absolutely mental. Are you Mr. Burns?

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How were we away for doing it? How did that work with parenting? It was a six-week shoot, but the weekends were off pretty much, so I was back at weekends, so it wasn't too bad. The only bad one was when there was a night shoot I think and we filmed from seven in the evening till five in the morning and then I got in the car and drove three hours back to Exeter and that was like that was bad. A couple of sat sooemas at a coffee though to get you through the night. Yeah yeah yeah for the whole time's sake. Yeah and then you get back and then like like the the the the the the the the th glglglglglglglglglglglglglglglglglglglglglglglglow like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like the like the like the like the like the the the the the the the the th th th th. the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the the th. Yeah the the th. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, th. I th. Yeah, th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. th. I th. I th. the the th. th. I the th. th. I th. th. th. th. th. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. I the. I the. I th. I glow was just waking up and ready to go and then off you go. Oh my god. What are you filming from midnight to 5 a.m? Because it was August and we needed to shoot like when you're doing any kind of night scenes or any it has to look like the winter so you're doing most of the day most of it was like night shoots.

Oh my god. And what's your Christmas this year? Are you going to sit down and watch it as a family? Or what do you normally do at Christmas as well? This is the first Christmas because of all the COVID and stuff. We're going to take Gloria back to Walver for Christmas at her grandparents. So my mom's Welsh right? So she's nine. My dad's English. She's nine? Nine. Yeah, that's Welsh. That's Welsh for grandma. Right. In Wales you have a nine-and-in' th. So. th. th. their. th. th. th. their. their. th. their. th. th. their. their. their. their. their. their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. C. C. C. C. C. C. C. C. C. C. C. C. C. C. C. C. C. C. C. C. C. C. C. C. C. C. their. C. C. th. C. th. th. toooooooo. C. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. C. their. C. C, okay. In Wales you have a nine and a tide, you don't have a granddad and a grandma. Right, I thought she was just starting early. She's nine. Blahmah. From the valleys. She's a little van. Yeah, she's Welsh, she's nine. Oh and then tides to granddad, yeah. Yeah, that's right, but Dad's English so he's not, he's grumped, so we've gramps and nine's a nine's a nine's a nine's a nine's a nine. Gramps and nine sounds like a rapper. Yeah. And then Jane's mom, Thelma spent about 10 years working out in Spain. So she's kind of got an affinity to Spain.

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Aboella? Yeah. And where are you spending Christmas at 9 and Gramsys' house, but we're taking Abuela with? Abuela's coming with? And. Abuela's coming with? Yeah. Abuela's coming with. And as Abuela hung out with nine and grams before? Yeah, that's all fine.

That's all fine. I would say though, it's quite bold to just demand what you're going to be called and it's Spanish. Just because your equivalent has got an interesting name because it's an interesting choice. Let's just say that. Sorry. And Abuela is a very difficult word to say, so Glo says bar. She's just clung on to the end of it, so instead of Abuela, it's just bar. And she's too young to explain to her as well, isn't she? Yeah, I mean, it's hard to explain it to people who aren't young, do you know what I mean? Well she once worked in Spain for a bit, okay.

Is she Spanish? Nah, no, no, no, absolutely. My father-in-law, Lou's elder sister used to call their granddad amps because they couldn't say gramps or granddad. So then now the grandkids call their dad amps. There you go. And then I always say Lou Lou Lou, Lou, Lou, Lou, Lou, Lou, Lou, Lou, Lou, Lou, Lou, Lou, Lou, Lou, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I'm th, I'm th, I'm th, I'm th, I'm th, I'm th, I'm th, I th, I th, I'm th, I'm th, I th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th that that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that that tha tha tha tha tha tha th now the grandkids call their dad Amps there you go and then I always saw Nanny and Granddad and then it's all confused and I was like look I'm not calling him Amps thee you gotta get on board that's fine if the kids do it but I'm not saying I'll say Mick I'm not as a grown man to another grown man sent amps would you like a cup of tea bar Bar, yeah, I call a bar now. Hello bar.

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Yeah, it's big. How many kids are going to be there? Is it going to be loads and loads of kids? Glow's got nine cousins, I think. Oh, that's confusing. That's a confusing number to throw into the name mix, isn't it? Okay, let's have you nine over here for the photo, no not you nine. Are you nine. Yeah, so like nine cousins and so you know it's gonna be good for them. Off they go. Oh wow. Are they all going to be calling a Boilela? No, they know as thou maybe. I think it'd be weird if they hopped on the bar train. It's already a weird train to be on. Just what's standing room only on the bar train just for you. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's just for us. That's just for us. How big you're, it's your nine and granddad's house? Is it a big house? Are you're going? Are you you you you you you you you you you you th going? Are you th going? Are you th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th. thin? It's thi? It's already th. It's already th. It minutes of my mom and dad's house. Right, okay, so that's fine. You know,

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Why are you going to do this one weird lie to our daughter? And I can't really find an answer to it. It's fun. When they see, mince. I just think I've never met anyone that's really troubled as an adult because of that life. No, you know what I mean? It's fun and I've never met anyone going there's fun and like I've been in counseling for years just because they lied about it. It's a fun, you know what I mean?

You've only found out he killed seven people. You're all in the Netflix documentary? Yeah, you're right. But I don't remember finding out that it wasn't true. I think you sort of clock it as a kid, but you don't really want to say it because you want to believe, I think it's what happens. And you want the presents. Yes. So, crucially, you still want the presents to come.

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will it? Just instilling a superiority over everyone at an early age. She's sat there and nurse thinking Susan you're best friend, but you're a fucking idiot actually. Yeah. Who's calling a baby Susan these days, Tom? Come on. Look, Susan, you need to know the truth, okay? You're a pathetic little baby, believe it a lie, right? We're 15 now, right? I'm going home for a bit of breast milk, or we're back to do my GCSE. I do get it though but yeah it is a balance in it so what side are you on of this Tom? I'm team Father Christmas. It feels mad to me if I'm going to try and get into an industry

where I'm cranking out a Christmas film every year. Being the truth guy. I can't kill our father Christmas guy. She'll say look that's going to pay our mortgage for the next five years. You gotta keep the's going to pay our mortgage for the next five years. You've got to keep saying to relax. If people stop watching Christmas films. It's closing off my ideas. But that could be your Christmas film, Tom. It's about the man that writes Christmas but has no love for Christmas. In his own house. Yeah.

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that kid that goes well my parents told me at the age of two so I never knew and then she might get annoyed she missed out. Oh God it's a tough one. It's hard isn't it? It's really tricky. Oh do your kids still believe Rob. Yeah, but like I don't really hammer it home. Yeah, introduce Young and we go and visit Father Christmas at things. And then it's sort of like, should we see if he's been but it's not like a, I don't really mention that he's real. I just don't really mention that he's not. Yeah, but you put the minced pies out. Yeah, we put the mince pies out. Yeah, so obviously around Christmas we do. Yeah, but it's not like like like like like. I I I I I obviously, I obviously, I I obviously, I that. that. that. that. Obviously, obviously, obviously, obviously, obviously, obviously, I that. that. that that that that that that that that that that that that th. Obviously, obviously, obviously, obviously, obviously, obviously, obviously, obviously, obviously, obviously, I th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th th. th th. th. th. th. th. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the you're good. Oh yeah I don't like that. I totally don't do that at all. That's not even a part of it. We just sort of say if you know like sometimes Father Christmas will bring a present yeah at Christmas. How do you get them to do what you ask though because

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That's a... If you don't come to the table, the discipline ducks are gonna come and peck you. I don't know what to do and she's really good now to say no like she eyeballed me in the day. I said don't throw your food and she eyeballed me and through food and just kept on looking at me the whole time. That is a tough age. That's the two's isn't it?

And you said, can I hear quacking in the distance here they can. Whack quack! This is the thing from down. Yeah, yeah, yeah, flapping out there pecking us. It's what we had in our house for the last, it's just come to an end luckily but about four months ago we were really happy everyone's having a nice time. We went for lunch with another family who were about a street away and they they had a filter water right and they had and they had and they had and they had and they had they had they had they had they had they had they had they had they had they they they they were. they they were they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they had a their their their their their their fared. their fared. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. they had had had had had had had had had had had had had had had had had had had had had had had had had had had had had. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. they had their they had their their their their their their they had their they had their. they had they had they had they had filter. they had filter. they had filter. they had filter. they had filter. they had filter, why have you got filter water? And they said, oh, there's a lot of lead pipes in this area. Didn't you know? We were like, no, we don't know. So we went back to our house and Jane ordered a lead test and we had lead pipes in our street bringing the water to our house. And in our house we had lead pipes that our surveyed, right? Oh, right. So we had like a big freak out. Jane in particular was very upset

because she was like, we've been damaging our child. And I kind of, you know, I think like in any relationship, there's like I tend to down play things and go, it'll be okay, even though I don't really know, it'll be okay. I find myself going, water it's fine. We'll get filter from now on. So we went on bottled water until we sorted all out I know we've had all the pipes fitted but fucking out honestly like looking into it there's still so much led pipes in Britain. Really? Yeah and the acceptable levels like Jay

did a whole lot of research it's like the acceptable levels in this country are 10 so as long as you've got under 10 in your water they say it's fine, but the medical associations around the world say five is the acceptable limit before it causes damage. So Britain is like five behind the rest of the world. Right. Because it just goes, oh no, it'll be fine and it isn't. So like we've had a whole thing about lead. But the thing about lead, again, through research is all the symptoms of lead poisoning are all exactly the same symptoms of a toddler turning two. So like we found out, like we found out about the lead stuff just as going into the terrible twos and like having the odd tantrum and like getting upset and all that kind of stuff. And then like when you read like lead poison it's like,

oh can display violent behavior, we'll start peeing irrational. So like our battle in the house has always been, is it lead????????...... the lead?? the lead? the lead? Like? Like? Like? Like? Like? Like? Like? Like? Like? Like? Like? Like? Like? Like? Like? Like? Like? Like? Like? Like? Like? Like? Like? Like? Like? the lead? Like, the lead? Like, the lead? Like, the lead? the lead? Like, the lead? Like, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the lead? the lead? the the the the the the the the the the the the the the lead? the the the lead? the the the lead? the lead? Like, the lead? Like, the lead? Like? Like? Like? Like? Like? Like? Like? Like? Like, the the the the the lead? Like, the the to? Like, to? Like, to? Like, to? to? tod? to? todd? Like, to? to? to? th. th. the the the been is it lead or is it? Is it that she's two? So like she'll throw her foods and Jayla look at me and go it's the lead and I'll be like no no she's two she's two she's two she's two she's two she's two she'll be coming in after nights out off her face going, oh she's been drinking the water again. Yeah, yeah, it's the lead.

So we had her tested and everything and her levels were really very, very low so we're okay. we got away with it but like... It's just her behavior in your parenting. It is just that she's a toddler. But that has been the constant discussion is like, is it the lead? Is it the lead? That's so good. Is it the lead or is it that? She's too, yeah. Oh, there's going to be so many paranoid people now going straight to lead testing their water. I cannot, I cannot stress enough. It's mad. It's mad. How do you check it in

they send you? You're just drinking if fillings it in three days and if you punch someone at the end of it it's probably lead. Can you plead it in court? Yeah, I mean, genuinely that is a strong theory that like people in poor social housing, especially like a hundred years ago had nothing but lead water in their supplies and it does genuinely lead to violent tendencies. So there is like a whole theory behind it. We've all done a lot of reading on lead, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah.

Maybe it's an ex-Christmas film, there. Lead-based. Well, that's what happens in this one. One of the families has got lead in their water, and you have to work out which one. Yeah, it turns it to catch up. I loved it. Lovely to be back on, guys. Lovely to be back on. What's the name of the film again? It's called Your Christmas or Mine. Yeah.

And it's on Prime Video on the 2nd of December. I can't wait to watch it. So does that mean I get it for free if I've got Amazon Prime? Yeah, it'll be on their home pagea for the season. Yeah, and the soundtracks out now as well on Amazon music. It's got an original soundtrack of... Is it on Spotify, Tom? Oh no, it isn't. No. The sound tracks out there if you want to find it somewhere. It doesn't sound like it's worth listening to to me, but there we go. Cheers, Tom. We've asked that question before about the best of them. Oh no, because we asked you about what the, did we ask you about what Jane does that, did, did we ask you about what Jane does about what Jane does? Because now we've added a question

of what amazing thing does she do? Not her, not her, but the partner. We don't ask you that before the thing that annoys you about the thing that annoys, th you, th you, th you, th you, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, the, th, th, the, the, the, th, th, th, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, did, did, did, did, did, did, did, did, did, did, did, did, did, did, did, did, did, did, did, did, did, did, did, did, did, did, did, did, did, did, did, did, did, did, did, did, did, did, did, did, did, did, did, did, did, did, did, did, did, did, did, did, did, did, did, did, did, did, did, did, did, did, did, did, did, did, did, did, did, did, did, did, did, did, did, the, they me me. Did they me. Did they me. Did we they me, they me, they me, they me, they me, theything that annoys me is her, I mean I know it's it's so I would say it's probably one of the things that makes her such a good parent as well though is like the surveillance the level of like never relaxing yeah like I'd love her to be able to relax a bit more but I also know that's part of what what makes her such a ta to to to to to to to to to to be a to be a to be a to be a to be a constant kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind I'm a to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the to the the to to the the the the the the the th the the the the the the the the try to to the to to to to to to to to to to to to the the the to the That was the best thing, Tom. I mean, her best thing, and it's always been the way when I first met Jane in normal life is like empathy. Her empathy for Glow is like when Glow's freaking out, she never gets cross with that.

She just understands why she's freaking out. And it's like she's not misbehaving, it's because she's just trying to communicate with us and it makes us such a she kind of diffuses any situation by being able to be empathetic with Glow I'm in awe of that because I kind of I start to try and think right I should be telling someone off here because she's doing that I've got to tell her off on the dad and then Jane will step in and just start talking to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the to the to the to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. I I I I tr. I try. I try. I try. I true and I true and I true and I true and I try. I tell. I tell. I th. I'm th. I'm tell. I'm the dad and then Jane will step in and just start talking to Gloria and being like I understand you're upset and this is probably why you're frustrating and empathizing with her instead before you know it like everyone's really happy and I'm always like wow that's that's pretty amazing that you can do that's a nice. Oh that's lovely. Oh thanks someone good luck with the film.

Cheers boys. Oh, thanks for having me back on. Lovely to see ya. Cheers, mate. See in two years. See in two years. Bye. Tom Parry. Yes. What a great guy. I love Tom Perry. That was a good one actually. It was good we caught him just because it feels like they're at the end of baby

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us know and let us know how that felt, why he comes that decision and is it fine and we're all worrying too much because we were big screen guys in our house. Yeah, well I tell you why we find it useful. th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's, th. It's, th. It's, th. It's, th. It's, th. It's, th. It's, th. It's, that, thin, th. I, the the th. I, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, they. It's, th. It's, th. It's, th. It's, th. It's, th. I's, th. I's, th. I's, thr. I's, thrown. I's, toge. I's, toge. toge. toge. toge. th th th throwne. I's, thrown why we find it useful or do find it useful. It's like when he goes down you know you leave him and sometimes he's shouting but then you look and he's he's lying down and you like that's going to be fine and sometimes he's standing up in the cop and you can tell the difference by how he is in the cot if you know what I mean? Yeah, rather rather than going in, rather than that than than than that than that than that than th, lying down I'm not going in. Yeah and they sort of get up and they jolt up and make a noise and look around and then lay back and go straight to sleep yeah but if you'd already gone in you're waking the baby up. Yeah exactly exactly Rob. Also as well the father Christmas one's really gonna

to divide people and that is gonna and Jane are thinking about doing. I just don't think as a four-year-old I'd have kept it to myself at school. That's the problem. You start to impact other people. That's the thing, isn't it? Oh, it's a good one. Get in touch. Email in. Right.

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