Parenting Hell with Rob Beckett and Josh Widdicombe - S05 EP4: Romesh Ranganathan (The Return)

Episode Date: July 29, 2022

S05 EP4: Romesh Ranganathan (The Return) Joining us this episode to discuss the highs and lows of parenting (and life) is the brilliant comedian - Romesh Ranganathan. Romesh's new sitcom 'Avoidance' is available now on BBC iplayer (all episodes) and his very funny podcast with Tom Davis, Wolf & Owl, can be found everywhere you get your podcasts... Thanks, Rob + Josh.BIG NEWS.... we're writing a book! ⭐ All the stories we can’t tell on the podcast – in depth.⭐ What it’s like to raise a stiff neck and a loose neck – straight from the horse’s mouth (our parents)⭐ And.. the BIGGEST REQUEST WE’VE EVER HAD FOR THE PODCAST… Hearing from our wives, Rose & Lou. They’ve got a chapter each and YOU can submit your burning questions to them... [e-mail]'s it really like to be a parent? And how come no one ever warned Rob or Josh of the sheer mind-bending, world-altering, sleep-depriving, sick-covering, tear-inducing, snot-wiping, bore-inspiring, 4am-relationship-straining brutality of it all? And if they did, why can't they remember it (or remember anything else, for that matter)?And just when they thought it couldn't get any harder, why didn't anyone warn them about the slices of unmatched euphoric joy and pride that occasionally come piercing through, drenching you in unbridled happiness in much the same way a badly burped baby drenches you in milk-sick?Join Josh and Rob as they share the challenges and madness of their parenting journeys with lashings of empathy and extra helpings of laughs. Filled with all the things they never tell you at antenatal classes, Parenting Hell is a beguiling mixture of humour, rumination and conversation for prospective parents, new parents, old parents and never-to-be parents alike.Find out everything you need to know, including how you could win a pair of tickets to the Parenting Hell LIVE tour & an overnight stay in London here: https://www.bit.ly/ParentingHellBookWe're going on tour!! Fancy seeing the podcast live in some of the best venues in the UK?Of course you do, you're not made of stone! Tickets available now on the dates and at the venues below. We can't wait to see you there...ON SALE NOW 14th April 2023 - Manchester AO Arena19th April 2023 - Nottingham20th April 2023 - Cardiff 21st April 2023 - London (The O2)23rd April 2023 - London (Wembley)28th April 2023 - Birmingham Utilita Arena If you want to get in touch with the show here's how:EMAIL: [e-mail]: @parenting_hellINSTAGRAM: @parentinghellA 'Keep It Light Media' Production Sales, advertising, and general enquiries: [e-mail] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hello, I'm Rob Beckett. And I'm Josh Willickham. Welcome to Parenting Hell, the show in which Josh and I discuss what it's really like to be a parent, which I would say can be a little tricky. So, to make ourselves and hopefully you feel better about the trials and tribulations of modern-day parenting, each week we'll be chatting to a famous parent about how they're coping. Or hopefully how they're not coping. And we'll also be hearing from you the listener with your tips, advice, and of course,

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Everett, can you say Rob Beckett? What's that? Can you say Josh Whitacum? There we go. I love, I love, Josh, I don't know what it is but I've got I love hearing my name in an American accent I feel I just feel so excited it sort of feels like you're on holiday in America or you're like you've become a Hollywood star yeah yeah rub the air kit that was Grayson age eight and Everett age six we're both born and raised in England, but

oh they've already picked up the accident though, haven't they? We just recently moved to Arkansas. Yes. So I have a feeling they will soon adopt a British Southern US accident. I reckon Christine that horse has already bolted. Well Christine's definitely from Arkansas. Thanks to continue to entertain me across the pond while I can no longer watch all my favorite British panel shows. I'm constantly trying to increase your Arkansas listeners even though they may not get all the human references. Love the podcast looking forward to the new book. Christine.

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I was like, what's their problem, Lou? We're good fun. We're good people. What's wrong. the good people? What's what's the their? What's? What's? th. th. th. th. they's. th. they's. they's. they's. they're. their. th. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. Loo. Loo. Loo's their. Loo's their. Loo's a lot. Loo's a lot. Loo. Loo. Loo. Loo. Loo. Loo. Loo. Loo's a loo's a loo's a their. Loo's a their. Loo's a th. Loo's a th. Loo. Loo. Loo. Loo. L. L. L. L. L. L. L. L. L. L. L. L. L. L. L. L. L. Loo. Loo. Loo. Loo. Loo. Loo's th. Loo's th. Loo's th. Loo's the th. Loo's a the th. Loo's a the th. Loo's a th. Loo's a th.to people on holiday, Rob. You don't talk to anyone. We met one American couple when we were, God, different life, wasn't it? We're in Toulomb in Mexico. Toulomb? Yeah. What was you doing there? Oh, mate, we were just having a lovely holiday which involved, you know, eating and drinking and sitting on a beach. Yeah. Anyway, we met an American couple. They were from New York, and they were very cool indeed.

And we had a lovely night, we went and drank tequila with them, and I threw up in a bush. You can't hold your drink at all, can you? I think I've got a stomach problem. Before we go on, Michael, can you check how many people in Arkansas listen? So in the last 12 months we've had 2,215 downloads in Arkansas. Not bad at all actually, is it? Pretty good, pretty strong stuff. Is it enough for a tour there?

No, unless that's all different people. Well, I think you could probably fill a hundred seat, so I'm going to say the costs. Okay. Yeah, so guys, we're coming to Arkansas, it's $3,000 a ticket just to cover costs. I didn't realize this. It can actually then break Arkansas down by individual city. Oh my God. I don't even know where is in Arkansas.

What are we? Are we a podcast anymore or some sort of data harvest? In the last 12 months? There's a lot of places in Arkansas that have only had one single download in the entire 12 months. Maybe it's a traveling salesperson. Yeah. So if you're from Pine Bluff, Arkansas, where you listened in pine bluff? Pine Bluff.

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I don't have six guns. I haven't got kids. It's too dangerous to have their their their to have to have their to have to have to have to have to have their to have to have to have to have their to have them here. But I have a reverse for people that you didn't think were real. I thought Clairvoyant was a person. What? No, Clair Voin? They thought that was a person called Claire. I genuinely thought she was a famous ghost whisper or something until literally last month when someone mentioned that name and I responded with, have you ever watched her stuff on TV? Oh no! Sally Phillips? Sally Phillips is like a, not Sally Phillips, what's the shit? No, Sally Phillips is the actress, isn't she? Yeah. Who's the woman that does like

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Right. Should we bring Romish on? Yeah, I think it's for the best. We'll do a proper correspondence episode soon to catch up. We've been, we've been sloppy. Here's Romish Ranganathen. Welcome, Romish, Ranaithan, to the Parenting Health podcast. I'm thanks. I'm so excited because of something that's happened. Okay, well, first of all, Romish. Lovely to meet you. What you're a comedian, right? You're a comedian, yeah? Have you got kids?

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Yeah, three children. Just sort of pretend it's a podcast about kids. Let's tie it to the podcast a little bit. And she just looked to me and she just went, what the kids? Yeah. Because I think, I think the need to not swear in front of the children is overridden by the need to stop your husband. Yeah, that's more of a pressing. If they're crossing a road of, it's fucking stop! You're allowed to swear at your kids then.

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Josh never had a pair until we started doing this podcast. Yeah, I didn't have a pair. I just couldn't deal with it. It feels like admitting defeat. He used to sit downstairs at night in jeans, rummish. I mean, that is crazy. No, wonder wonder, I that's that's that's that's that's the the the the the the the the the through the route. I wonder you always got gut rot. No, it's because I'm going straight out after this.

I've got, I had to prepare, I had to dress to go out after this. Yeah, we're all busy Josh. We've all got to stop. Well, no, Robbins, and look at him. He's sat in a fucking vest, on his own in his house. joggers and I found I'm really comfortable and I thought hold on I've moved from jeans to these and that's been a real like revelation. What if there's a level beyond this? Do you mean? And so I saw I was looking up like, I don't know why I went for yoga pants. Yeah, so anyway, long story short, they're very comfortable and I love wearing them. And every now and again I go out and again I go out and I neled to the school and again again again again again again again again again again again again again again again again. the school. the school. the school. the school. the school. they they they they they they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're their. their. their. their. I their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their they're they're they're their their their to the school run in this vest and then loose stopped me like that as well. But I knew that was bad. I wouldn't go out for the day in it.

I'd wear it like to and from the pool on holiday. Yeah, I think that's okay. Is that okay? But the school run I know is not okay. And also I haven't really got the arms. arms like if one look at my arm they just don't look bad. No but what's good about your arms is it doesn't look like you're wearing a vest to show off your arms but what you say you're saying that I'm not showing that I'm not showing that I'm not saying that well I'm saying is like no one's going. If you if you logged on here and said to me oh guys I've got a Halloween party after this I'm going as early M&M I they they they they they're not they're not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not they's they's they're they're not they're not they're not they're not they're not they're not they're not they're not they're not they're not they're not they're not they they're not they're not they're not I'm they're not they're not they're not they're not saying I'm they they they they're not saying I'm they they're not they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they they they they they they they they they they're they they they they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're not to to to to to to to to to to to to they're to to to th to th th to th they're th they're they're not to they're not they're they're not they're they're they're they're they you logged on here and said to me, oh guys, I've got a Halloween party after this,

I'm going as early Eminem, I would believe it. But yeah, so that's the vest. So yeah, and I know I can't wear this on a school run, but I just forget I've got it on sometimes. It's just so comfy, it's so comfy. It's just so comfy, I like the wind wind wind wind wind wind wind wind wind wind wind wind wind wind wind wind wind wind wind wind wind wind wind wind wind wind wind wind wind wind wind wind wind wind wind wind wind wind wind wind wind wind wind wind wind wind wind wind wind wind wind wind wind wind wind wind wind wind wind wind wind wind wind wind wind wind wind wind wind wind wind wind the wind in my armpits, I realised. Do you worry about lifting your arms off and people seeing your armpits? No, why would I do that? It's not got a swastatis a tattoo or something?

What do you mean? No, but it's just a bit weird, isn't it? Yeah, but I wouldn't go high, how's it going and lift them up? Yeah, how often are you lifting your arms above 90 degrees, doing the big shop and refusing to get anything off above the third shelf. If you see Josh, he absolutely lifted his arms all over the place. What a maverick! That's right, arms drop.

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He's had a couple of days off and now he's wearing a vest. Just in a vest surrounded by a nest of crispy socks. Well, that's the danger of working from home. You can just become an animal. It's like, Lisa will come home when she's been away, like, if she's like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, she'll come back and she go, what have you eaten today? And I say 12 sausage rolls. With what? Nothing?

You don't need it to comfort with it when you've got that. Surely some sauce. Not just sausage. Yeah, I go in a cone of West Indian hot pepper sauce. It's my sort of goat. Or with a bit of a sort of overconfident and then you're just adding more hot sauce but then you're adding more to counteract it so you think you're having more hot sails but you're not really. Why don't you just buy some spicy mayo? It's a really good show. Oh yeah, it's not the same in is it? That's not the same in is the that's not the that's not the that's not the that's not the that's not the that's not the the the that's that's the the that's the the th. the the th. the the the the the the the the th. th. that's that's that's not th. the that's not that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's not the that's not the the that's not the that's not that's not that's not that's not that's not the that's not th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the the the th. yeah this is quite challenging for the

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I don't know any white people that do that. Yeah, I know it's a weird quirk of my person. And for years I didn't even realize I liked hot because I presumed I just presumed I couldn't I couldn't. I just assumed that I just presumed I just presumed I just presumed I just presumed I just presumed I just presumed I just presumed I just presumed I just presumed I just presumed I just presumed I just presumed I just presumed I just presumed I just presumed I just presumed I just presumed I just presumed I just presumed I just presumed I just presumed I just presumed I just presumed I just presumed I just presumed I just presumed I just presumed I couldn't just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just. I just. I just. I just. I just. I just. I just. I just. I just. I just. I just. I just. I just. I just. I just. I just. I just. I just. I just. I just. I just. I just. I just. I just. I just. I just. I just. I just. I just. I just. I just., I'll just get a calmer. That's what I would get. Because you assumed you'd like a calmer because you're Josh. But you like, that's it. So what else do you have hot? Do you have like, I would, if I went to a curry house, I'd have the hottest thing on the menu.

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would say 6040 honky. I would say Alex is our middle one is like 760 Asian and then I would say Charlie's probably 65 35 35. His palat is... So you're winning the battle overall? Yeah I mean if we had a fourth one it might be one I would say Charlie's probably 65, 35. He's palaces. So you're winning the battle overall? Yeah, I mean if we had a fourth one, it might be one I'm actually proud of. Do you mean? You want to tip 80% really on the fourth, don't you? Just for your mom.

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But yeah, and then basically, my mom walked out. Are you going to have to talk to your mom about the birds in the bees, doesn't she know yet? This is such a reversal. Well, I think what she was trying to get out is that birth is a miracle and pregnancy is a miracle. And so she was saying that the fact that a woman can become pregnant and give birth to a kid is an act of God, basically. Which, you know, depending on your perspective, it is. I suppose, yeah, that's the kind of thing you thing you thing you thing you thing you thing you thing you thing you thing you thing you thing you thing you thing you don't kind thing you don't kind of thing thing thing you don't kind thing you don't, thin, that kind kind that's kind that's kind kind kind kind kind kind of thing, that's kind kind kind kind kind kind kind of thing, that's kind of that's kind of that's kind kind kind kind kind kind, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, th.. th. th. th. th. thin. thin. thin, thin, thin. thin. th. th. the the the the thirty, the kind, thirty, that's kind, thirty, that's kind. that's a kind. that's a kind. that's, that's,the kind of thing you don't think about that is still quite a big deal to your parents? It's a difficult one because like my mom and dad was so obsessed with me being westernized and they're worried about me and my brother fitting in this country and you know whatever getting jobs set. Yeah, they were really nervous about anything that marked us out as

as different from most of the kids right Yeah, because they moved here and you were born here for people that don't know, basically. Yeah, so my mom and dad came over here and then had kids here and I think they were always planning on staying here. And so they just became really nervous that, you know, my mom came over here when she was 20 from Sri Lanka. She's got, you know, she's completely immersed in a new culture. She's scared that her kids their their their their their their their their. their. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. they's, thi. thi. thi. thi's, thi's, thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. So, thi. So, thi. So, thi. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, thi. And, thi. And, thi. And, thi. And, thi. And, they's, they's, they's, they're, they're, they're to look out of the order or they're not going to fit in or whatever. So like you know they didn't speak Tamil to us which is our mother tongue because they were worried that it would give us an accent or you know they wanted us to speak English so they spoke English. Which is all fine you know what I mean whatever you can say what you you you you you you you you you you you they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they their they th they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they don't they don't they don't they don't they don't they don't they don't they don't they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they're they're they're th th th th the the the thi the the the the they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're my mom's just really angry that I don't know Tamil and I don't know enough about Sri Lanca culture. And I sort of think, well, you had a part to play in this. Do you know what I mean?

It's not like you were encouraging me the whole time and I've just sort of like made, protested about it. You didn't tell me any of it. You just so you basically wanted people to to the white guy. Now you are. Now I've blossomed into full coconut, you would put in your decision. Have you taken your kids to Sri Lanka? No, but when I went and did Asian provocateur, like that was a few years ago now. I did think I did want to take it. But the thing is, is I wanted to take him at an age, because you can go to Sri Lanka and then have a nice holiday, but you're staying in an all-inclusive and the only Sri Lanka's their meeting are serving staff. I didn't really, I didn't really... Been there, done that mate. Of course you have one of the best ten days of my life. Yeah, but you're smashing away all the hot curries, aren't you absolute legends?

Bring in more chelis, any of this white person stuff. What are you having for lunch? Give me that. Is that the back of the kitchen, bottled and hot stuff with all his baits? Yeah, Josh needs to be having the staff meals every day. What do you thi. But I want to take them when, I'll take them when, I'll take them to the, like my family from like small villages, do you know what I mean? So I want to take them when they're

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Yeah, it's based on a character flaw that I've got. So, so, which one of the problems? Thank you. Very nice. Very nice. It's about my own. Is it only six episodes? Yeah. But you know what, when the BBC heard about it, they thought character flaws, this is going to run and run. No, basically I just I just am a people, a bit of a people pleaser avoid a scared of confrontation, a bit of a beat a male. And it's quite annoying, like you think you're being nice but actually you're being quite aggravating, do you know what I mean?

Yeah. And so we just sort of it's a funny thing to give a person. And then we thought what would make that person feel like they have to change. Because one of the things about people please is they think like I'm doing the right thing here. Why people get an annoy, like, you know, I don't need to, I'm being nice. Why people getting angry with me for being a nice guy? So he thought what could force him to change? And then we thought if he split up with his other half, and then we thought, we just, we decided, we decided, we decided, we decided, we decided, we decided, we decided, we decided, we decided, we decided, we decided, we decided, we decided, we decided, we decided, we decided, we decided, we decided, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, like, like, like, that, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, to... to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to forced to change for the sake of his son. Because one of the things that I think about, and I don't know if you have this issue, but I get very nervous that my kids are going to turn out like me or that they're going to pick up certain things that I've got, do you know what I'm constantly... I'm worried that that as a joke, but I do believe it.

You presented truth as a joke there. Sorry, God. You do that quite a lot, Rob. You say something quite cocky. And you do have a little smile in a face so that people think you're joking, but I know you well enough to know who means that. I think what happens is at the start of it is a joke, but as I say it, I go, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, you're thi, thi, tre, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, the the tri, their tri, th. You th. You's th. You's th. You's thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi. thi. thr-a' thr-a'-a'-a'-a'-a'-a'-a'-a'-a'er, tru-a'er's tru. to know he means I think what happens is at the start of it is a joke but as I say it I go yeah it wouldn't be too bad wouldn't it? So yeah anyway so it's sort of like it is a bit sad in past you mean because it's like this guy trying to get to

and we wanted it to be relatable but one of the one of the things that people said was that they relate to my character in ways that they don't want to be shown that they relate do you know I know you're sort of seeing negative in the negative trak's in yourself are being shown on screen and it's a bit horrible do I mean it's yeah rather like he's just like me oh no he's just like me yeah exactly but I think that's why it's why it's why it's why it's why it's why it's th it's th it's th I it's th it's th it's th I it's th I it's th I it's th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th thus th the the th thus the the th th th th th th th th that that that that that that that that's the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the that's the the the that's the the they they they they that's why it's so brilliant and so good is because it's truthful. You are a people pleaser. That is real and the character in it. So it feels like it's really coming through. Because all the time you always tell I say, I what are you doing this week and you're doing something. I'm like, why the fuck are you doing that?

Why didn't you tell them to like like canceling something. Yeah. Do you remember when we were going to go to Cologne, Romesh? I think he does. No? What are you talking about? So after the first series of Taskmaster, Tim Keith, one of the prizes has booked everyone booked everyone to cologne. And then slowly, as it went on, everyone dropped out. And except, Ramesh hadn't dropped out, but he was quietly not responding to the email. So who was in that series? So

it's Tim Kee, yourself from Ramesh. Frank Skinner. Alex and Greg as well. I would say my night in Cologne and Tim Kee and Frank Skinner was a strange evening. You went? For one night? For one night. I think I dropped out when they're on their way to the airport. Yeah. You dropped out where we're on the way to the airport. And then I, you didn't say why. And I asked Flo what you're up to and she said he's had chatty man in for months. So you actually had a decent excuse? Yeah I don't I don't know I don't know me thinking I've got shit should I I don't know what I thought I can't explain him. It's avoidance isn't it that's why it's it is a voice you just avoid the isn't it? That's why it's called that. He just avoid the situation. Yeah, it's bad.

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But also sometimes I walk into a room and I really don't want anyone in that room to talk to me. Yeah. So it's not, you know, you know what I mean? So it's I think it's difficult because you have no control really. But what your kids are older? What your tele and also your kids are so much older. Is it come up a lot or do their friends talks you about it? Is it become a thing? One of the things that happened recently was, so basically the boys, it's like, you know, Theo's 12 now and he's 12 going on 17 or whatever, like he's a proper, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, whatever, like he's a proper light, he behaves like it. And he doesn't care about me, you know, he's grown up with me being a comedian.

And so he doesn't care about it, it just doesn't care, it's like not unusual to him, it's whatever. And the problem he's got is at secondary school and his mates think it's a huge deal and he doesn't, right? So what happened was, a couple of weeks ago, we were like in town with Theo and like a group of his mates from school just turned up, like just by coincidence and just lost their mind that I was with them. They just started freaking out, like this got, oh my, you're rummish, Ranganathan just started losing it and Theo, I felt so, he looked like he wanted to evaporate but it was just like it was so horrible and like

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But it's just something to talk about. And then they get well stressed. And one thing we do need to cover on, is I heard you were quite angry with Tom Davis because he, his story about his child on here rather than on your podcast Wolf and Al. Well, listen, you know, the truth is, you know, this podcast that we're on now is an absolute monster and the Wolfen Owl is like, you know, we're a minnow. It's not a minnow. It's a very excessive of a popular podcast.

Don't play that card, you little sucker. Sorry. You're not getting enough bloody listeners to your podcast that's always in the top ten, Romesh. Yeah, we're having to exploit our children for this shit. You just fucking babblon about anything that's happened that day. Pucky, let me say. Puppie piss and ruin drugs? Grow up. What are you a student? Fucking, puppy, that's a panic episode. Oh, let, let, we we we we we, the puppy, the puppy, the puppy, puppy, puppy, puppy, puppy, puppy, puppy, puppy, puppy, puppy, puppy, puppy, puppy, puppy, puppy, puppy, puppy, puppy, puppy, puppy, puppy, puppy, puppy, puppy, puppy, puppy, puppy, puppy, puppy, puppy, puppy, puppy, puppy, puppy, puppy, puppy, puppy, puppy, puppy, puppy, puppy, puppy, puppy, puppy, puppy, puppy, puppy, puppy, puppy, puppy, puppy, puppy, puppy, puppy, puppy, puppy, puppy, puppy, puppy, puppy, puppy, puppy, puppy, puppy, puppy, puppy, puppy, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. that, th. We. We're, th. We're, th. We're, th. We're, th. We're, that's, that's, that's. that's. that's. that's. th. That's a panic, that's a panic episode. Oh God, we're recorded or what? My rug's dirty, fuck off Romesh. No but listen, listen,

Rob, you say panic, there is no panic because there's zero preparation that goes into it. So we literally click record and start talking and I listen to Tom's brilliant on the podcast, but he'll talk about arse pebbles, he'll talk about, you know, his order at McDonald's and stuff like that. And like, you know, it's all fine, but it's all very trivial, which is fine, right? And then I see, I see, I get loads of emails into the Wolf and the Hour going, really, found out about the podcast from Tom's appearance on parent, but by the way, that's a kick in the teeth tief. that the Wolf and Al even existed until they heard Tom on your podcast, right? And then they go, I've listened to, or they're going, listen to Tom

on the Wolf and the tell, but never heard him talk so powerfully as when describing his journey to parenthood on the parenting her podcast. I just thought, you've finally got an inspiring story that you could have shared. And you give it their their their their their their their their their their their thi thi that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's. I that's. I that's. I that's. I that's. I that's. I that's. I that's. I that's. I that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's th. I that's th. I've th. I've t. I've t. I've t. I've t. I've t. I've today. I've today today today th. I've th. I've th. I've th. I've shared and you give it to that fucking monster... They don't need it. They're doing arenas. They're doing the arenas. Why are you giving it to them? Go on and babble on about how annoying nappy changing is. Don't tell them your magic story.

Don't give them something inspirational that people have put on on their commute and start crying. Do you know what the hell are you doing? It was amazing. And then log on to me and then talk about what the curry you had last night. Okay, to be fair, we've covered that on there so we've covered. That's true. That's true. And now you've come on and you'll never be able to be able to to to to be able to be able to beat to beat to beat to beat to beat to beat to beat to beat to beat to beat to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to be able to be able to to to to to to to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to to to to to to the the the the the the the the the the their their their. What a wonderful story? Yeah, because I've kept my powder dry. Okay, well let's get it a bit of wet.

Get a bit of war on your powder, come on. Tell us your story. I've not felt anything for 12 years, mate. I've got nothing to get you. What drives you? Why do you work so much? Come on, let it out. What's the reason, Rom?

What's the reason? It can't be status, it can't be money anymore. What's driving you're on? What's in there? No, but in all seriousness, I know you're joking, but there is a point I do need to address it that I haven't really thought about publicly. So like, obviously I have been working quite a bit and then I've sort of been scaling it back. I've started to come to the realization that maybe me scaling it back isn't good for the household. I don't think, I've come to the slow realization that I'm not a help. If anything, I'm a hindrance. How is that manifested? Because imagine Lisa, when

you are working a lot, Lisa's got a system, she's running the house, running the kids, and then you come in and you're basically disrupting the production line. It's things like disrupting the production line, doing things slightly wrong, you know, messing up, like doing bedtimes the way I want to do them, which is essentially keeping the kids up as long as possible because I want to hang out with them. Do you mean? And then Lisa goes, and then you, what will you do? You'll pop off the League of Their Own Tomorrow and I'll have three tied pricks for the whole day.

Is that how, but good for you. You've got six tied pric- Yeah, and then also expressing my opinions, I've stopped expressing my opinions about how Lisa's handling stuff. Yeah. Like, for example, I came back, I don't know if I talked to it, I came back from a travel show and Lisa dealt with one of the kids and I thought she'd been a bit harsh. And I said, I didn't, obviously, United Front, I'm not a lunatic. Do you mean? So I didn't say anything at the time th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I thi. I thi. I thi. I've thi. I've thi. I've thi. I've th. I've th. I've thi. I've thi. I've th. I've to to to to to to to to th. I've to to th. I've to to to to th. I've to to to to to th. I've th. I've th. I've th. I've th. I've th. I've th. I've th. I've th. I've th. I've th. I've th. I've th. I've th. I've th. I've th. I've th. I've th. I've th. I've to th. I've told. I've toed. I've to. I've to. I've to. I've to. I've stopped. I've to. I've to. I a bit harsh and I said I didn't obviously United Front I'm not a lunatic do you mean so I didn't say anything at the time and then she went off I went do you think like maybe you overstepped

it and she went do like maybe you haven't seen him do it every day for the last two weeks and that's the first time you're seeing it ever and that's why you're reacting how you're reacting and I went okay cool that I I I I I I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm I'm I'm I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I I'm I I'm I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna gonna gonna gonna gonna gonna gonna gonna gonna gonna gonna gonna gonna gonna gonna gonna gonna gonna gonna gonna gonna gonna gonna gonna gonna gonna gonna gonna gonna gonna gonna f I'm gonna gonna gonna f I'm gonna gonna gonna gonna gonna gonna gonna f f I'm gonna gonna gonna gonna gonna f I'm gonna gonna gonna f I'm gonna gonna f I'm gonna gonna f I'm gonna that I'm gonna that I'm gonna that I'm gonna that you know what you're absolutely right I should have spoken out loud anyway thanks very much for having me guys it's been really great it's been a major I player and there's also the Wolf and Our Podcast that you can listen to if you if you want content this not as good as when they're both on our show thanks so much that's great thank you no no it's a great podcast because I they've got our love to Tom. Yeah, but she opened up, genuinely, and it meant a lot to a lot people. No, genuinely, banter aside, what he did was so important and we've had so many messages about his appearance

on this show meaning so much to so many people. But also, thanks for coming on as well, Rom. It's been fun, it's been fun, isn't it? because you've sort of set up to make me look for it there. That's great. Now I'm glad, uh, I'm glad Tom such a magical story in your podcast. And if you guys want to have another child, I look forward to hearing about it on your next episode. Yeah, yeah, yeah, but in future, any sort of heartwarming stories you'd like to monetize it on your platform. Yeah, basically, do you mean?

He's already booked in, he's doing he's th ge ge ge ge ge ge ge ge ge ge ge ge ge ge ge ge ge ge ge ge ge. Tini's doing a gender reveal on our podcast. So I'm quite... Oh, gender reveals would be good as many episodes, if there's any celebs out there. Ramesh, thank you very much, mate. Thank you so much, guys. Cheers, mate. See you. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye.

Ramesh Ranganath and there. Call that was good, wasn't it Josh. No reply. to thi Call that was good wasn't it Josh? Oh okay, no reply because Josh has immediately left. We're recording it's on a Thursday. It goes out tomorrow on Friday, but Josh dressed in his jeans, his stripy blue and white Peter Express t-shirt and his blue jacket that he's owned probably now for 23 years. He's scurrying off for another engagement leaving poor old Bobby B. Sat here with his vest on and his tits out doing the outro. Well I thought that was great. I hope you did too. See you Tuesday.