Parenting Hell with Rob Beckett and Josh Widdicombe - S05 EP6: Sara Pascoe

Episode Date: August 5, 2022

Joining us this episode to discuss the highs and lows of parenting (and life) is the brilliant author, presenter, and comedian - Sara Pascoe.Tickets are available now for Sara's fantastic new tour show 'Success Story' Thanks, Rob + Josh.BIG NEWS.... we're writing a book! ⭐ All the stories we can’t tell on the podcast – in depth.⭐ What it’s like to raise a stiff neck and a loose neck – straight from the horse’s mouth (our parents)⭐ And.. the BIGGEST REQUEST WE’VE EVER HAD FOR THE PODCAST… Hearing from our wives, Rose & Lou. They’ve got a chapter each and YOU can submit your burning questions to them... [e-mail]'s it really like to be a parent? And how come no one ever warned Rob or Josh of the sheer mind-bending, world-altering, sleep-depriving, sick-covering, tear-inducing, snot-wiping, bore-inspiring, 4am-relationship-straining brutality of it all? And if they did, why can't they remember it (or remember anything else, for that matter)?And just when they thought it couldn't get any harder, why didn't anyone warn them about the slices of unmatched euphoric joy and pride that occasionally come piercing through, drenching you in unbridled happiness in much the same way a badly burped baby drenches you in milk-sick?Join Josh and Rob as they share the challenges and madness of their parenting journeys with lashings of empathy and extra helpings of laughs. Filled with all the things they never tell you at antenatal classes, Parenting Hell is a beguiling mixture of humour, rumination and conversation for prospective parents, new parents, old parents and never-to-be parents alike.Find out everything you need to know, including how you could win a pair of tickets to the Parenting Hell LIVE tour & an overnight stay in London here: https://www.bit.ly/ParentingHellBookWe're going on tour!! Fancy seeing the podcast live in some of the best venues in the UK?Of course you do, you're not made of stone! Tickets available now on the dates and at the venues below. We can't wait to see you there...ON SALE NOW 14th April 2023 - Manchester AO Arena19th April 2023 - Nottingham20th April 2023 - Cardiff 21st April 2023 - London (The O2)23rd April 2023 - London (Wembley)28th April 2023 - Birmingham Utilita Arena If you want to get in touch with the show here's how:EMAIL: [e-mail]: @parenting_hellINSTAGRAM: @parentinghellA 'Keep It Light Media' Production Sales, advertising, and general enquiries: [e-mail] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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I did half of it. It's just too many, it's so descriptive about fields. Don't give a shit mate, I know what one looks like. Have you read it? No. Oh God, anyway, sorry, go on. Caleb, what's this a reference to something? Hi, slags. I've been listening since the... Is that a joke we used to have? I can't thrown. Is that a joke a joke a joke a joke a joke a joke th joke th joke that that that that that that that that that that that that. Is that. Is that. Is that. Is that. Is that thatheatheatheatheat. that. that. that. that. th. th. th. th. that. that. th. th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I that. I that. I that. I that. I that. I, I that. I that. I, I that. I that. I that. I that that. I that to. I to. I know, I'm to. I know, I'm that. I know, I know, I'm that that that 't remember? I think everyone was being really polite or, I don't know, but I'm happy to be called a slag. I've been listening since the beginning and I've been patiently waiting for my son to be able to say your names. It's been two and a half years now, but when we're listening in the car, he says your names are on repeat and so that's fun. Oh wait, she said, but sort of, it's normal to be dreading and excited in equal measures,

right, asking for a friend. Yes it is. This is Caleb, who's 34 months from Bangor, Northern Island. Love the podcast, thanks for all the laughs. Emma, 372 months. Yes, please do a live show in Belfast. Not my decision. Our live shows are, wherever they are, I don't even know where they are. I'm doing Belfast though on tour in November if you want to come. All right mate. Yeah, last few gigs. Yeah, how are you? Did you watch the European Championship Final and did your daughters get inspired? No, my daughters didn't get inspired. I did watch. I loved it. I've really enjoyed the tournament. To be fair. I've been busy. I've. the. the the the the the the the the the the the the the their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. thea. thea. their their their their tod. today. tour. tha. I tha. I tha. I tha. I tha. I their one. I their one. I'm the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the tour. I'm tour. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I'll tour. I'll tour. I'll tour. I'll tou. I'm tou. I'm tou. I'm tou. I'm tea. I'm tou. I'm tour. I'll. I'm. I'm tour. I'll. I'm to. I'm tour. I'm tour. I'm toe. tournament. I watched to be fair that I don't want to I've been busy this this month so I only watched the quarterfinal semifinal and final I didn't do all the group games. Didn't watch the 8-0? Who did they beat 8-0?

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It's tough isn't it for a bit of nation rivalry because you want to be supportive about how amazing the women's footballs become, but also he's Welsh. Yeah, well we'll find out if he texts back in the next seven minutes whether he likes it. Well, I enjoyed it, I thought it was really exciting, the crowd are amazing and I felt inspired, but no, none of the women in my house watched it. Didn't they? No. Did you try and make them watch it on, I've, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, the, th, th, th, th, th, th, the, th, th, th, th, th.. th. th. thi, thi, thi, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, thi, thi, thi, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, th. We, th. We, th. We, th. We, th. We, th. We, th. We, th. We, th. We, th. We, th. We, th. We, ta, th. We, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta. We're, ta. We're, ta. We're, ta. We're, ta. We're, ta. We're, ta. We're, ta. We're, I put it on outside, I've got an outside telly, you know like you have in your garden, I got one of them, tried to put that out and I was even trying to go, we could have the fire pit with some marshmallows, not interested, they were just watched frozen and then I went, they were just frozen, like, the back room to watch it, because they had frozen on the tell. And tel, tel, tel, tel, tel, tel, tel, tel, tel, thee, the, the, the, the, tell, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, they, th. I, the, the, tho, thrown, thrown, thrown, thrown, thrown, thrown, thrown, thrown, thrown, thrown, thrown, we we're, they, they, they, we're, we're drawing out, so she left the room again. That was her. And the girls, now they stripped off naked in front of the telling and started screaming, We don't care, we don't care, watch our show, what shall show.

They actually said, football is rubbish and for boys. I was like, it's literally women playing and winning. Oh, mate. So I live with three misogynists. Oh, I'm sorry. Sexists, sexist bigots. And I was there. But it was amazing. The goal, the first goal was so good. Yeah, I was actually chasing a 12-month-old round-day kitchen at that point, which was slightly frustrating.

Oh, you missed the goal. I saw the second goal. And I saw the German equalizer. My daughter watched, we had her, she had two friends around and they watched the first four minutes and then they gave up. It is a long thing though. I think they're a bit young for it. Yeah, and then they came back to watch the trophy being given out, which they enjoyed. The thing is, what actually is inspiring that next generation is that they've watched that and it's just in their heads heads that women women women women women women people on the front page of the paper for sport and football and it's just a given and I think as they grow older it will become part of their summer. So like for me I like

watching England women's play and love it but for me watching the men's team I'm slightly more obsessed because I grew up with the pain of losing. It's 30 years, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I their, I th, I like, I like, I like, I like, I like, I like, I like, I like their th, th, th, th, th, th, their their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, the, the, theat, theat, theat, theat, and, theat, and, theat, and, their, their, their, and, and, their, their's team, I'm slightly more obsessed by it because I grew up with the pain of losing. It's 30 years, it's 30 years of narrative. Yes, exactly, but when my daughters are our age, they'll have that narrative of supporting them and will all, and by that age I'll be really into them because I'm starting to now, I'm getting into the characters in the team, all the different players and Kelly and there's Kirby and all these different names that start to come in through popular culture and that's the difference. It's not about I love football now. It's about it just existed in your head the same way as when you think about Wimbledon it was like Tim Henman but now you got Radicano, aren't you? Yeah, you know the worst thing though for our daughters and children Robb. We won the women's euros. They've have have have they've they've their. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. their. their. th. their their their their their their their th. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. th. Yeah. Yeah. th. th. th. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. the the their. their. their. their. th. th. th. th. th. th. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their... the their...................................................... the the the the the the the th. the the the the the the the the the the final of the men's euros, they've been spoiled mate. You say women are having it too good? No I'm saying our children are having it too good. Our children are being spoiled. The

next generation. Just to make it clear you're not saying women have it easy. No I'm not, I'm saying the cricket fans, I'm saying cricket fans, I'm saying cr's football fans, I'm saying men's football fans, all these things that we're good at now. We were shit when we were kids and we had to put up with that. These people are going to have skyscraping expectations that aren't going to be met in 20 years. At least we're used to losing Rob. Yeah, but yeah, but so what you're saying're saying is we've been sad forever. Yeah which is better. They're happy now and then they'll get sad but at least

they've had some happy. Is that worse? It's worse? It's worse to have once been happy? Because I wouldn't say our generation are very well adjusted when there's men sticking flares up their ass. Yeah I'd say that that even if we had one Euro96 I don't think he would have taken the flower out of his ass. I don't think that was... So you say anything? Okay, you still think he would have put the other societal factors that led that man to put a flower up his ass. Yeah, yeah.

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like that. They can go, I remember watching it when I was six years old and inspired me. I'm like, did it fuck? You did not give a shit. And I remind, I've seen the girl, that one that's been on the news who's got the little face paint on her cheek and she was singing at the semi-final. They got a tickets the final. She was inspired not you, not th. th. thi, not thi, not thi, not thi, not thi, not thi, not thi, not thi, not thi, not thin, not thi, not thin, not thin, not thin, not thin, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, I's, I's, I's, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I their, I their, I their, I their, I th. I thin, I thin, I thin, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I'm thin, I'm thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, th thin, thin, th th thin, th thin, thin, their, their, their, I'm their, I'm thin, to the final. She was inspired, not you, you were dancing around making me look at you. And that will be up my speech at her wedding. Well, Rob, should we get on with the interview? Because it is genuinely one of my favorite people in comedy, in television, in the world, etc. Delighted to have her on. Yeah, she's very excited. She's brilliant. Sarah Pasco. Sarah Pasco. What have you, are you, are eating?????? to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get a to get a to get to get to get a to get a to get a to get a to get a to get to get to get a to get a to get a to get a to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the their their their their their their their their their ti. I. I ti. I ti. I ti. I ti. I ti. I ti. I tipe. I toe. I toe. I. Yeah, she's very excited. She's brilliant. Sarah Pasco. Sarah Pasco. What have you, are you eating something, Josh? Sorry. What are you eating? I'm eating yogurt because I got home. Oh, a yogurt. I just got home from nursery drop off four minutes ago. I think a yogurt is one of the worst things you can eat for an audio. Sorry, I'll stop. But I tell you what, this is why we should have put the the video. the video. the video. the video. the video. the video. the video. the video. the video. the video. the video. the video. the video. to to the video. the video. to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to their. to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to th. th. th. th. th. th. their. their. their. their. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. to. to. to. to. to. to. to tell you what, this is why we should have put the videos on because it's very funny to watch someone eating. Yeah, let's put

your video and I watch it's in it. It's in a bowl. It's not like it's not like a munch-bunch or something. But I don't know what yogurt I think like a yogurt just sounds like your desk and she just sort of gulps it down and carries on with her work. Sorry, I've had a busy morning dropping the kids. Let me get this yogurt down. This is my time. This is my time with my activia. This is my time with my activia.

Well, Sarah, this is very close to the bone of Josh, the to be a photo up of, well yeah because we put a photo up of me and a vest hoping everyone would take the Mickey out of me but then everyone just said that Josh looked like a middle-aged woman having a slight breakdown. And he did. Now he's eating yogurt at his desk. Oh my god my glasses are steaming up now. How are your glasses steam? How many kids have you got Sarah? Let's move on. Let's move on. Okay. Yes so I have got a baby. Oh, th. Oh, my my my my my my my my my my my my th. Oh, my th. Oh, my th. Oh, th. Oh, th. Oh, th. Oh, th. Oh, th. Oh, th. Oh, th. Oh, th. Oh, th. Oh, th. Oh, th. Oh, th. Oh, th. Oh, th. Oh, th. Oh, I th. I th. I tho. I tho. I th. I just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just the g. Oh, I the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I just just just just just just just just the th pressure's too much. How many kids have you got, Sarah? Let's move on. Let's move on. Yes, so I have got a baby. He's as a boy and he's nearly six months old. So, and it's my first child and I'm 41. I had him at 40. I'm an old, old mom with a young baby. No, I wouldn't, I'd say these days. In our industry, Sarah. Late 30s is about the mean average, I'd say, isn't it? It's true, isn't it? I've been talking on stage about how I really thought you had to choose between a career and a baby. And so it was only when I got to about 35 and I got really sort of bored. That was like, oh, I could do that as well actually. I could also have a family. Yeah. Well that because that's the thing is unfair on women who've got more of a time pressure

on that and also societal pressure of questions all the time where if you're a 35-year-old bloke out and about working, no one ever mentions it to you. But if you're a 35-year-old woman is like, so what's the plan? aggressive, aggressive like that. Yeah, absolutely. When both of my sisters got married and had children before me and they're both younger than me and at one of my sister's weddings, one of my sister's friends, and she was talking to me because she like date out of ten cats and she wanted to know if Jimmy Carr was nice. And then the next thing she said was, she just gestured with her husband, she just dressed up I went, all this not for you. Oh my God. All this not for you.

You've got Jimmy Carr and they add 10 cats, so no, not this. Solar Studio in Elstree is that what you want, is it? Yeah. A lukewarm Nando's before you're witty. Dictionary Corner, Annorable tweets. Is that your life is it? That's obviously sometimes I think from an internalizing thing of someone that did think like you did you have a pick career or family and they pick family and there's a slight resentment to someone who's very successful in their career. I think that's the battleground.

Yeah, oh that's what we read into it. We read in that there's some kind of value judgment rather than just, oh, you focus in on that? Or is that what makes you really happy? You've made, or you've made choices. It is tricky, because we tried to have children for a really long time and then to dive the earth. I found all of the truth, then I'm telling you some really heavy stuff straight away.

Yeah, and that's not what you mean. You just want like a yes or no answer, what's the plan? Yeah. And you know sometimes in that situation that you've never met before. What did you apply to this not for you? I think I think I said something very non-committal and then I've just been angry about it in my head for five years. You know, I keep reliving it. What should I have said? What should I have said? Women can have it all now? Yeah, yeah. I think that's it. This assumption that, yeah, just thin, I'm fine. Yeah, just haven't met the right person.

Yeah, it's odd, isn't it? What does Possible sound like for your business? It's having to spend to power your scale with no preset spending limit? Redefine possible with business platinum. That's the powerful backingto power your scale with no preset spending limit. Redefine possible with business platinum. That's the powerful backing of American Express. Terms and conditions apply. Visit MX.c.C.A. slash business platinum. How's it, how's the first six months been, Sarah? I mean, I, um, that's a broad question, isn't it? How is sleep? That's all you care about. The sleep is really bad and I like lots of

people just planned to have a nice sleepy baby. Yeah. And it was already bad. It was really bad. It was bad. He didn't sleep for very long. He definitely was no one is sleeping through but he was sleeping in chunks like so you know two or three hours which actually we thought was terrible until we were aggression when that stopped. And then it was every hour or every 45, 50 minutes minutes. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. th. And th. And th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. to. the. the. to. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the the the the the th. th. actually we thought was terrible until regression when that stopped. And then it was every hour or every 45, 50 minutes. And then it's TV in, so now sometimes every 20 minutes. And I'll tell you, I've got so many problems with this system. I hate evolution. I think this is stupid that you're expected to do good parenting when you're absolutely ravaged with the worst thoughts I've ever thought about myself, the world.

I'm in a very negative headspace. It's so awful. And then I'm supposed to be loving, am I? Like, to the world, I'm responsible am I for a child? Where's the space for joy? Like, where's the space for actually enjoying the fact that you've got a small child? And they're here I mean we wanted him so much and I was here and it's yeah it's horrible I hate teeth actually I hate teeth I think they just be born with teeth I think it's a stupid system that they're coming afterwards

my mom didn't want me to be born with teeth look well I've been thinking how hard TV must have been for you do you think was an awful experience imagine your first set of tee at tiny tiny tiny tiny tiny tiny teeth tiny, right, the normal size, Robert? Did you go and be? I don't, I mean, I don't know. I was a year, I was a baby. No, but I had these massive ones from the age of about six, which wasn't ideal because they called me tombstone teeth. But anyway, we're back to how awful Sarah's life is. Well, it'sthrough it and I know all of your listeners would have been through variations of it and it is that thing the cliche thing of you can't

imagine how tiredness is because it's so much more than tired thia'n'earnes it's you're already exhausted because people you do you get tired from like one bad night sleep or one long day and then a short night but but when it's cumulative I found it to be like a kind. to be to be to be a to be a to be a to be a to be a to be a to be a to be a to be a to be a to to be a to to to to to to the the the the the the to be a the the thi. I I'm thi. I'm thi. thi. I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm thi. I's thi. thi. thi. thi. I's thi. I's is is they. they. thi. I's is is is thi. I's. I's. I's a the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the. I'm. the the. I'm. I'm. I'm. thi. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm c. I'm not. I'm. t. try. try. try. try. try. try. try. ti. ti. try. ti. ti. ti. you have to be awake and you have to do things and be responsible, actually you're just flooded with adrenaline. Yeah. So you actually, you don't sleep very well. You don't, like people said things like, oh, sleep in the baby's sleep.

Like as I have like, as in, I have daytime naps, but I'm absolutely wired. But the minute it goes the the the the the the the the the the the the the flat that they're doing. And so you realize that actually you don't get any rest at all. That period when they're like, when the baby sleeps, and you're like, but that is my time. That is the only time I have. And you're all expecting me to write that off as well. Do you know what I mean? It's part of that.

I just want to have a cup of tea or something. I just want to sit with my bloody yoga. Yeah, there's this bit, we're really struggling with this bit. So when he first goes down to sleep, as in for the big sleep, as in as he's going to be asleep all night now, even though he wakes up through it, he's gone down like 7 o'clock. You have this part of you that goes now, now. You have this part of th of th of th. th. th. th. th th th th th th thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi. We're thi thi thi thi thi thi thr- thi. We're really thi thi thi thi their thi, we their thi thi. we thi their their their their their their their their their their their their th. We th. We thi. We thi. We thi. We're really thi. We're really thi. We're really thi. We're really really really really thi. We're really really thi. We're really really thi. We're really thr-a. We're really thr-a. We're really throoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo. We're really broken sleep I should go to bed now. But then you don't ever have an evening. So what you do is you stay up, you talk to each other, you make some food, you watch some TV and then it's 11 o'clock and you go, I hate myself, I hate myself. Yeah, why have I wasted this period of time? You've got to have that period of time. Like just checking it, are you alright? Sort of, you're all right. Quick thumbs up, yeah, okay.

Yeah, yeah, coping. I've also had to take the baby away with me for work. I'm doing documentaries. And so I've had to take, sorry, is that my wash machine? Being really loud? And it's a little beeping, but... Oh good, okay. So I had to take him, I've just come back from Denmark, I had to take him to Denmark for 10 days while filming and take a nanny with me. Wow God. What it meant was that steam was my husband was here by

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Oh man. So I think you might have a lot of common with my mom because I used to wake up at 4.30 every day-today for about three years? In the baby's defense it's just like it's so bright it's so bright and that's it if he sees it even a chink of daylight that's it's daytime then. Right I really have you got blackout curtains? Yeah we've got all that we live in the dark like moles but still there'll be like a little tiny little chink of lights coming through or a light will be on something like a little light light a little light light light a light light it I'm like oh no oh no it was 13 months old no 13 weeks old we should go to Australia and on the plane there are just little just little lights everywhere and he just he was wizing his head around just just try to look as many of them as possible to prove now it's I'm away it's daytime stuff's

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to me they sleep the whole way and that was not who you've been speaking to who I think it was after I'd already booked the flights and people didn't want to stress here. So, because I was going to go anyway, that was the worst 24 hours of life. I think it required more than the baby. And you know you've then got to come back as well, right? So you're in the situation. But at the way back I was high. I was ridiculous. And then I had no idea what it was going to be like flying with a baby.

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healthy baby. Yeah, yeah. It's like 95% to the battle isn't it? Yeah. The problem that here is I mean we've spoken to people before about the lack of sleep and how difficult is Tom Perry episode was great where he was sort of staying up all night with his baby and stuff like that but Tom Parry is a you know a lovely man but fun's quite silly but I think people look at you Sarah as a very sort of intelligent and and together person so it's even more harrowing to hear it from you than from some like Tom Parry you can kind of go, that's probably Tom Perry's fault. Yeah, he's a bit quirky. You know what he's like. From you is like, oh dear.

Yeah, Tom Parry's probably just getting the baby really excited, like doing sketches and taking his t-shirt off. It's probably, yeah, his own fault. And I, the one bit of hope I have is when other people say it doesn't last and you go yeah it doesn't last and you kind of set all these stones like maybe once with one solid food or maybe you know eight months and then I listen to your episode of Tom Crane and he was talking about his much older child still not sleeping and I was like oh no oh god some people it doesn't end but I think I I think six months like at six months we were having an

absolute shocker because my son was born in May and then when I had COVID before Christmas that's when we were doing sleep training so that was seven months and and that was I was a really low ebb at that point if this is helpful yes yeah of course of a higher but the moment choking down yogurt three minutes before his buzzing? I'm buzzing on Muller Light. But yeah, so it does, I was astonished how it can get sorted. Do you know what I mean? It's just that thing of, like, it does feel endless.

And I always thought it was the day that the tiredness would be tough in but I actually think it's all right pushing through the day. It's when the night arrives and you're like oh God I'm being woke it's the middle of the night is the problem I think. I said when I'm doing gigs and I'm getting on the way home at sort of half 10, 11, sometimes, I had one in less to the other day with Tiffany, so we were coming back half 11, 12, I get really nervous because I'm actually scared because I know that the maximum time in bed is gonna be six hours, and it's like how much of that's gonna be sleep.

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Yes, yeah, and no, babies are like it. And also there is, there's so much fun around it. This what I mean. The second he smiles, we're fine and you're right, the days are fantastic and that... I know, I don't know, I do mean that. I do mean that. I do mean that. I just, I think it's being honest about the tiredness, but then also, yeah, you survive it and you're amazed what you can survive. Yeah. That's what I know, but the last six months, I've not seen him. When he has played, I think his performance has dipped. That's not me, that's not me telling him he can't go to football anymore. I'm not saying that, but I'm saying if you're exhausted.

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him to a hotel with child care, it's a time of the day where I don't have to feel bad about not being with him. I am really looking forward to actually. It's your three hour window. You're using a three hour window to do stand up. That's th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thr-I. thi. thr-up, the. the. the. th. the. th. the. the. the the the. the the th. I'll th. I'll th. th. I'll th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. I I I I I I I I I I I I'll th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. the. to the. to to to to to to to to to toeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee. thr. the. the. the. to to do stand-up. Yeah, that's it. That's it. That's exactly what it is. And so that stand-up fits in to so many other parts of life because there's actual so little working hours and you can write, you know, you can write in the back of an Uber, you can write notes on your phone, you can write comedy around all of the other things. I was listening to your episode with Estiminoino and her talking about walking with the the Pram, practicing her staff. And I love that. I think that's what's so accessible about stand-up. You don't need the desk, do you?

You don't need equipment. Like, you don't need an easel or clay or anything. You can just do it even at a time where you have the least time in the world. So are you're going to take him on tour on tour on tour on tour on tour on to on to on to on to on tour on tour on tour on tour on tour one tour one tour one toura thea thea t him on tour then like say you're in I don't know say you're in York on the 24th of November and then you're going to Sheffield on the 25th yeah so what you'd stay in a hotel with him in the hotel and then you just kind of pop out do the gig and go back yeah I think that I'm planning but that might be Catherine when I when oh biggest ever tour, very excited. She just wrote, don't do it. That's what you need. Yeah, really encouraging.

And because she was currently on tour with her young baby and because it was so hard. So this is a thing, this is what I'm now living. I'm living a diary that I agreed to things with a hypothetical baby. And now I'm living with the actual baby realizing, oh, this is absolutely impossible. You're in Cloud Cuckoo Land. We were on the flight to Australia.

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the time he's still there. Our baby, a lot of the times he's waking up is because he wants me to turn him over to make him more comfortable. Like it's so like he's a dummy. Oh yeah, that is the dummy replacement. Is he still in your room? Yeah. Because the dummy replacement, when they're in a different room, it's just like, oh, you see, I've just got to walk into that room, put a dummy in a mouth, and then go back, get in bed and then think, am I going to get back to sleep? We used to just to just to just to just to just to just th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, the dummy, tho, thu, thu and then, tho, tho, the dummy, thumbe, thumbe, thumb, thumb, thumb, the dummy, the dummy, the dummy, the dummy, the dummy, the dummy, the dummy, the dummy, the dummy, the dummy, the dummy, the dummy, the dummy, the dummy, the dummy, the dummy, the dummy, the dummy, thu....... thu. thu, thu, thu, thu, thu, thu, thu, thu, thu, thumb, thumb, thumb, thumb, thumb, thumb, thumb, thumb, thumb, thumb, thumb, thumb, thumb, thumb, thumb, thumb, thumb, th I going to get back to sleep. Do you know what we used to do? We used to just leave loads of dummies around the baby.

Like Rose tuttles. You know, and then they could just grab that. The car is just full of dummies. It's like one of those kind of machines there are. It's like one of those kind of toys. that really if they just roll over and start sucking they'll suck one in. That's how many dummies there are. Oh that's good that's good yeah because he does that he sort of he loses it and he will try and sort of like bang his head around and try and get it back in himself so that maybe that's what I'll do just like lay loads around. Well how many books to the books that are theyreys. Well, no. How th. How th. How th. How th. How th. How th. How thi thi that that that that that that that that that that that that that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's good is that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's. that's that's good. that's good. that's good. that's good. the they. they. they. they. the the the the the th. th. the. the. the. the. that in some of the content. So how much research were you doing? Well I did read some books but they were sort of books about motherhood rather than sort

of science facty books and we didn't do NCT classes. Actually I got really rebellious about the whole thing. I decided I would just instinctively become a parent and I didn't want to be told what to do and I didn't want to have a group of peers like I didn't want to have loads of people who had babies the same age I didn't want to know anyone in my neighborhood. Such a comedian. Yeah. So even having a baby it's got to be right you're like, even if I'm going to be, even if you're like, thrown, I thrown, tho's to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to be to be to be to be to be told to be told to be to be to be, to be, to be, to be, to be, to be, and I'm to be, I'm to be, I'm to be, I'm to be, I'm to be, I'm to be, I'm to be, I'm to be, I'm to be, I'm to be, I'm to be, I'm to be, I'm to be, I'm to be, I'm to be, I'm to be, I'm to be, I'm to be, I'm the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the thrown, and I'm to, to, to, to, to, to' to-a, to'-s to'er, today, ttold stuff and then be like, oh, that's the right way, that's the wrong way. I thought, let me find out. But then, just before we had him, we did have this panic of like, we don't know how to do anything.

And then we had a couple of zooms. You can do sort of like, couldn't drink water, didn't know that you couldn't do things like that, didn't know you're not supposed to put loads of blankets and toys in their cots and things like that. Oh, I luckily to told us important information. And even now, like we're at the weaning stage and I said to Steen, if you've done any research about what we're supposed to do with solid food and he's like no, and it's like a kind of guide book beforehand. Yeah. And I don't think I took any, it made me have a level of self-confidence that was hugely misplaced. And I don't think I took anything that actually happened. All of my knowledge was accrued from desperately texting people that had kids on a day-to-day

basis. I think that's the thing you've got, you don't need to know know know know know know know know know know know know know know know know know know know know know to know to know to know to know to know to know to know to know to know to know to know to know to know to know to know to know to know the the the their their their their tho tho tho tho tho tho thoom tho-a tho- tho- tho- tho-a tho-a tho-a tho-a tho-a tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho thou thou the the thin thin the theanannenenewwoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo. I think that's the thing you've got, if you, you flood your brain with stuff you don't need to know about, you don't need to know about weaning when you're like five months pregnant, you know, wait until they're hungry for solid food. But I didn't, I didn't read anything. The only thing I watched one TED Talk, which're such a natural, you're so talented, you're so great, those kids don't really grow up and become that successful in it because they're associated their success of a predetermined genetic ability. Oh, good luck rather than more hard work. Where what you should say is you really should reinforce, oh you done so, you work so hard in that race that you weren't winning at the beginning but then you really worked hard and then you, you know, then you were successful.

Do you think that's why I didn't become a top-level sportsman, Rob? Um, maybe? Because I saw my huge genetic ability as luck rather than hard work. Because when you look at you, you're a genetic freak, like Cristiano Rona Rona, you've got everything you need to succeed in any sport. to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the to to thua, thia. thia. thia, thia, thi. thi, thia, thage, thia, thia, thage, thi, thi, thi, thi, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, you.... So. So, you. So, you... So, you, you, you, you. And, you, you. And, you, you, you, you, you, you. And, I. And, I. And, I I. And, I's, I'm, I'm, I'm, to to to me, t t toe. And, thi. Yeah, th th th toea. Because, toea. Because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, I know what I mean? You like Denise Lewis, just any sport you can do, but because you didn't think it was you and it was just your body, that's the thing, I think your body's held you back, Josh. Because when I look at you, I'm just like, how can you concentrate on the jokes when that chest is there staring at you, those arms? Josh, you don't have to put up with this.

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things like go in the garden and bring in this like disgusting this this like disgusting this like disgusting this disgusting this disgusting this it's not very hygienic and I just felt really bad for him but now the baby started stroking him and so yeah and so it actually it's really sweet that they'll sort of cuddle up but the dog doesn't understand that you can't like pour him on the head and stuff so it's still absolutely annoying him but they're gonna be really good friends and I really was that cliche of someone the the the the the the the the the the the the the their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their th is th is thi. thi. thi. I'm thi. I's thi. I'm thi. I'm thi. I's thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. their their their their their their their their th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi thi's thi's thi's thi's thi's thi's thi's thi's thi's the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the thrown the the thi of someone who had all of these maternal feelings and didn't yet have a child. Because my life feels so balanced now that all my maternal feelings are not towards my boyfriend or my dog. They're like towards an actual baby.

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after the kids so the kids were like three and five when we first got him and they went away with my mom and it was just me and the dog and the dog was like what it's just you this there's not three other people thinne? the the the the the. cuddling me, stroking me, and I'm like, yeah mate, I can't, I can't be four people. And then he was a bit fed up because he didn't have as much attention that he was getting. So he'll be getting loads of attention when your boy gets a bit older. So that's good. So I need to find a way to get your dog to tell my dog, to tell my dog. Hang on in there. It doesn't last forever. It gets that. It gets. It gets. It gets. It gets. It gets. It gets. It gets. that. that. to. to. to. to. to. to. to be. to be. to be. to be. to be. to be. to be. to be. to be. to be. to be. to be. th. to be. to be to be to to to to to to to be to be to be to be th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the their. the the the their. their. their. the th. to be. tod. tod. tod. today. to be toda. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. toda. tod'll do that in a dog sort of communication way. Can I ask you about IVF Sarah? Oh yes I'd love to talk about IVF actually. It was a thing where I'd always had in my head that like 40 was my cutoff and I really did think oh like it's kind of fate that decides

especially because until COVID I always had stuff in my diary that that thin the thi. I th th th tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho thooooooooooooooooooooooo. I tho-I tho-I tho-I tho-I tho-I tho-I tho-I tho-a. tho-a to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the to to to to the to to to to to told told told told told told told the told told told their their their their their their their the the the the toda. I the toda. I this way of thinking, I was like, okay, I'm sad that this hasn't happened for us, but actually I've got all of this work booked up, da da da, da. And then with COVID, my diary obviously completely emptied, just in two phone calls. And my husband, who it was very important to him to want he really really wanted biological children. He said, can we give it like another two years and just, you know, properly try, like properly go and see doctors and find out what's up and solve, hopefully solve a problem and that felt to me really emotionally risky because that's really wanting something, it's really wanting something. It's really try in and it's really being, you know, hurts and disappointed when things don't work out or the pregnancies

don't stay and all of those kind of things. But I'm so glad I did it. I'm glad I did it in that way. You know, when you just something scares you? And so actually to confront it is so brave anyway. And then some of the problems that we have of our fertility were very easily solved. And then and the other side, so we had the kind the kind that we have that we have the kind that we have the kind that we have the kind the kind that we have that we have the kind the kind the kind the kind that we have the kind the kind the kind the kind the kind the kind that we had the kind that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that And then the other side, so we had the kind, which is Ixie, which is where they select a healthiest sperm and the healthiest egg and they put them together and you get sort of blastocists. And then, you know, we've known our baby

since he was five days old because when he, when they put the blastocyst is back in, you watch it on an ultrasound. It's like a shooting star. So you can sort of watch it going in this little dot going into your uterus. And so, and then, yeah, seven weeks, I knew I was pregnant at three weeks. I found out, I found out for my fit bit. Because I was doing a, you know, those Will Briggs gigs, the outdoor ones. I was in the one in bri, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, the, the, th, the, th, th, the, th, th, the, th......... I, th, th... I, th.. I, th. I, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was............................... Yeah, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, was, was home and when I looked to my fit bit, it said I've been in fat burning mode for 75 minutes.

And I thought, I know it's a big gig, but I don't, why don't know when my heart is going so fast. And then the fat burning, it didn't stop. My heart rate, the whole way home was over 100. So I googled is my fit broken. way your body starts producing more blood. And actually, Josh, I saw you and I've just done my embryo transfer because I did the last leg. Someone dropped out. I won't say who. And what happened was, someone dropped out. I last minute came to do last leg. And you'd give me like this fridge full of champagne for this other guest at a point where I absolutely knew

I couldn't drink it. And you know what my mom was watching. So I got off my mom's like, I absolutely. I absolutely. I absolutely. I absolutely. I absolutely. I absolutely the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. I've th. I've absolutely the th. I've absolutely th. I've th. I've absolutely the th. I've absolutely their th. I've absolutely their their their the last. I've the last. I've the last. I've the last. I've the last. I've the last. I've the last. I've the last. I've the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. I've. I've. I've. I've. I've. I've. I've the the tri. I've tri. I've tri. I've tri. I've tri. I've just just. I've tri. I've the last the last mimed drinking some champagne so I got off my mom's like what the hell are you doing drinking champagne on the last night? Oh what was it a prop on the show? Yes yes yes they next to my seat I think it was like they were like they were making out like it was a music they so they might have had a drink and not been not realized they were pregnant? Well because it's IVF it's actually months before. Months before of healthiness you've, there's all these things that affect your success rates are like you have to lose a little bit of weight that tends to be better and you're not drinking, caffeine, a caffeine, caffeine, caffeine, caffeine, caffeine, caffeine, caffeine, caffeine, caffeine, caffeine, caffeine, caffeine, caffeine, caffeine, caffeine, caffeine, caffeine, caffeine, caffeine, caffeine, caffeine, caffeine, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, not the, not the, not the, not the, not the, not the, not the, not the, not the, not the, not the, not the, not the, not the, not the, not the, not the, the, not the the their the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the they. the they. they. theymea. theymea. tttea. tea. tea. thea. thea. thea. thea, not thean, not to be all of the vitamins and the and you can

get really obsessive with it because everything you think if this is a difference between this and that and then you're like no bubble baths no perfumes you're not allowed to have massages there some of the stuff is really ridiculous or even like getting a little bit warm but you're not allowed to to do things that get you warm I just couldn't go without bubble bath. I don't think I could do a life without a bubble bath, Farah. I don't know how you... Does that mean that when you're not drinking beforehand, you've got that horrible thing where people must think you're pregnant already? Yeah, a defense, and that's why again you get a little bit prickly or defensive. Actually, I just got, actually it was COVID, but I've got a bit antisocial. Like I had my 40th birthday and the next day I was doing like my injection, which is sort of

the shot that releases your eggs, and one of my friends said to me, oh you'll be going down the pub doing this and that, and I just didn't have to do with my face, but absolutely no interest, that's not my life at the moment. Yeah, old alcoholic Pasco's in in the moment, sort of old alcoholic Pasco's in the cupboard from here. Look her up for a bit. Yeah, she's not here anymore. Yeah, so like constant questions and things like that, because it does, yeah, people always go, oh, not drinking.

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I should say, can you leave while I do my heroin? Or can you leave? Because I've got to have a tablet I have to put up my ass. Because there's less questions about your ass. Maybe just I've got to put a tablet on my ass so do you want to leave? I would if they were going to be rumors about me I would prefer it to be I think she's doing fertility treatment I don't mean she can get pregnant rather than I wonder what she's got that means that a tablet up the ass Yeah, it does open up more questions in private for the run run there be a lot of runners googling the moment they left the dressing room. Of course it would. That's not a good disease, whatever that is. So when you know you're pregnant at three weeks, what's the kind of chances that that's gonna take, if that like?

Is that the right word? Yeah, well, I was very stressed because actually I had a miscarriage just before we started IVF. Rob, the really weird thing about talking to you now about having a baby is that you remember we had to do that really weird zoom audition. Oh yes, that was the day of my miscarriage. I came back from. I know it was so awful and I was so in shock but basically I've been at hospital, had the scanner said yeah we can't see anything and then I had this option, Josh this was so weird. this weird this weird this this weird this was so weird this was so weird this was so weird this was so weird. this was so weird. this was so weird. this was so weird. this was so weird. this was so weird. this was so weird. this this was so weird, this this this this this this this this this this th. th. this this this this this this this this this th. th. th. th. It was th. It was th. It was that was the that was that was that was that was that was the the that was the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. the the the the the thi. the thi. the the thi. the thi. the thi. the the thi. thi. this option, Josh, this was so weird, it was like a film audition with Rob Beckett. Where they were, make the chemistry test. Yes, romantic with each other. And I thought if I cancel this, they're just going to ask, number one, I don't know how

to even begin to say to my agent what's happened. And then also, they're going to do it. I'll just push through it. Well, I don't know if it's a good or bad things here, but you were brilliant in it. I don't know if that's good or bad that you can just put the wall up and plow on. I mean? In that odd way, I just thou. Nothing else is, just get through this. Nothing's it was, but that's what happened. The ironic thing was we paid for IVF, we were waiting for my period, we were waiting for my period, we were waiting for my period, it didn't come. I found out I was pregnant after five years of trying. I know, and so I just had that thing where I thought,

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Feeling nauseous, knowing I was pregnant but not knowing if it was going to be okay. And so yeah, I remember lots of the times being okay at work, that brilliant thing, because our work is really involving, you have a switch where you just have to cope with it. You're laughing at Johnny Vegas's jokes and sort of talking about stupid things. And then this sort of crash that would come after us well, I just be like, oh God, I hope I didn't get too warm or wear anything smell. Because it is hot. There's people watching you, there's cameras on you, your brain's probably going, can they tell? Am I sweating? Am I getting hot?

Is it, does it look back? Oh, that's Sarah. There was one bit where one of their tasks, they wanted us all to like jump, and I was just thinne. the'm allowed to jump I don't know if jumping is dangerous or anything like that so yeah you know because Tom Tom Tom was the host of that wasn't it? It's like if it's like I know you it's so difficult though because you don't know you're so you know if I was on that show as a to the told their to to the to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the to to to to to to to to the the jump. I I I I to the to the to to to to to the to the to to to to the jump. I'm I'm to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to jump I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I the the the to jump. to to to to jump. to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the to to the the the the the the the tom. I'm just just just. I'm a the the the told. I'm just just a to to to to to the to to the to to to don't want to have to tell your agent or tell everyone or whatever, but I think, you know, if I was on that show as well

in Tom's position or even just a guest on it, if you had said to me, I can't do that, I'm seven weeks pregnant, I would make sure that I not, if that makes it more difficult or not, but for you, anyone else listening, if you are on a set with me and that's going on, pull me to one side and tell me and I'll make sure that's not happening. Because it's not fair to have to do that, Rob, that thate, and it might be difficult that doesn't happen. I think quite often when people are actually in the stressful or emotional time we get through it and then we look back and go,

oh of course I could have spoken to that president because you're absolutely right. Tom Allen if I'd gone to his dressing and go just by the way, I'm not trying to give you anything heavy but this is a situation this why I'm nervous about this. You're absolutely absolutely you. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You're absolutely. You're absolutely. You're absolutely. You're absolutely. You're absolutely. You're th. You're th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. they. the. the. the. the. the. 't comfortable with in a quiet way. But you don't want to make anyone else's life more difficult because you know he's already hosting all that kind of thing and sometimes he made sure that you didn't get the full fee though. You said, oh, I don't think. There was someone that was G.B. News comics going, well, well I thought we're all equal. I can jump. I hope that didn't come across as patronizing, but I just... I think it's good for us to have conversations like this, because then you realize, oh yeah, other people aren't going to overreact or, and they understand that it's still private business. They're just they can be at your, but you can be a little sort of silent ally for someone. Yeah, but yeah, but I'm sure Josh is the same, if I'm at work, if I's, if I'm the same, if I'm the same, if I'm the same, if I'm the comedy at work or like TV or comedy. Don't come to me.

Maybe not, he will panic, but come to me and I'll make sure you're not doing anything you don't want to do. I'd love to go to Josh's dressing woman and he'd be like yogurt and I'd be like, let's just have a yogurt. On the topic of yogurt, is your he wants to one day. Yeah, I don't, I really think, number one, I just really want to make sure he's, and I know that people can have a vegan diet and be very well. Yeah. So, what's it, you know, have all the right vitamins and nutrients and things like that.

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if my parents had made me be. I was, because I'm always been vegetarian, but that's because I have absolutely no rebellion within me. I'm desperate to please. Oh, really. Yeah. Josh, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you might, you might, you might, you might, you might, you might, you might, you might, you might, you might, you might, you might, th. Yeah, of, of, of, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, th. Yeah, I, th. Yeah, th. th. th. I, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. Yeah, you, you th. Yeah, me. I'm desperate to please. So, yeah. Josh, you might have a midlife crisis, you know? You might get to 45. I think my body could take it. I think my body would, I don't know how my body would react if I had a sausage sandwich. Would it?

No, that won't be your midlife crisis. It'll be something else. Oh, you just mean generally? What do you reckon it'll be, Sarah? What do you reckon is midlife crisis? What is it? What? We're taking bets now? I think you're going to buy a trip club?

I think you're going to buy a strip club or casino in another country, like Vegas, like Vegas, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to're going to buy a Vegas casino and strip club. And reinvent himself like when like kids go to uni. You're going to put on like a weird Italian accident and say you're part of the mafia. And you're going to smoke cigars. Oh, I think I could get into smoking cigars. He'll get to his chest. No, your chest. You'll be onto about 4550 and your kids are a bit older and you've got a bit of spare time and you'll hire out some studio space and try and record an album.

Oh no, do you know what? That's a terrible fear. Because it's not a million miles from that. I think you might get really into plastic surgery and start having loads of fillers. You'll start a band of all the other comedians that are frustrated musicians. Like you'll have Al Murray on drums, Briggs Stock I'll be singing, you'll be on guitar. Oh no, this is so feasible. You'll be a latitude with your true will be on. Oh God and I'll be, I'll be coming onto this podcast trying to promote the dates. It is a good night out, you won't see any stand-up. A lot of people have been disappointed so far on the tour.

He's promised not to do stand-on. Well, they'd be called like Josh and the Gigglers? Josh and the chuckles? Oh God, it's too close to the truth. Or it'll be something like it was called It was all a blur and it was all like, oh blur covers. Oh yes, Blurbue. Josh Winnockham it was all a blur and you've got a couple of like soppy love songs about Rose and the Kid

and then the rest is just like, woo hoohoo! Oh, God. Oh, I can't play guitar and sing at the same time. I just haven't got the ability. I'll do the Phil Daniels bit for part life. You would. Yeah, I'll do that bit for you. You know, the Cockney accent bit, and then you can do the rest of it.

You're a good singer, Sarah. Sarah can sing. She's unbelievable. In my new show, Oh yeah, is it a good or bad story? Well, it's about, no, it's a funny story. It's a funny story. It's a funny story. All together now, when you describe it to people, it sounds like I'm making it up. Because some people haven't seen it, Robbins.

So I'm saying a hundred judges all in squares and in the middle is Jerry Halleywell from the Sp't believe me. No, Chris Camaro did well didn't he? Very well. Yeah it doesn't seem real that. It doesn't. Because I had a bit Jerry Hallowell used to try and take the Mickey out of me a lot on it. She went to me one of the calls I did a joke and she got a bit a bit of a laugh and she got I I I I I I got a bit a bit a bit a bit a bit a bit a bit a bit a bit a th. I I th. I got a th. I got a th. I got a th. I got a th. I got a th. I got a th. I got a th. I got a they got a bit a bit a bit a bit a bit a they got a th. I got a bit. I got a bit. I got. I got a they they they they they they they they did. I did. I did. I did. I did. I did. I did. I did. I did. I did. I did. I did. I did. I did. I did. I did. I did. I got a they they they they they they they they th. I did. I got a th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. th. th. th. th. th. they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they think that was funny. I was like, okay. And then she went, who writes your jokes? I went, the same people that write your songs. Rob, she told me I wasn't very good at singing. I think it was- Is that what she said?

I know, she said that she said I was pitchy. She was quite harsh actually, thi to be a fun Christmas special and then they absolutely went for me. Well, do you know what it was? I thought you were brilliant and you've got a brilliant voice. The song though, what songs that you sung again? It was quite like, what that show needed to do well on it was catchy like Sweet Caroline type songs. Of course, but that's the TV program chose what Song I sang.

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minutes at his party and that's what that's what I did. Did you know it was a set-up for him did they explain that? Yeah well when they first emailed me they made out that they were a fan and they said I've got this celebrity, he's a fan of yours. We just wanted to know what your fee was for the party. And then I found it was Hugh Grant, I was really excited and then they told me the truth. And I was also, I was the 14th female comedian they'd asked. Everyone else said no, and they found out that it was a true. But I was like, I'll say yes, for the money, for the money, for the money, for the money, for the money sitting down, like apart from Hugh Grant, they made him sit on a chair in front of me and then everyone else was just at his party sort of standing there.

But that was that early in your career, Sarah? No, it wasn't that early. It's about five years ago. And then the next year I got invited to his party as a guest. And I thought the the theme of to to to to to to to the party to the party, the party, the party, the party, the party, the party, the party, the party, the party, the party, thi, the party, the party, the party, the party, the party, their, their, their, their, thi, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, to to to to to to to to to to to to to to me, to me, too, too, too, too, th. th. th. thi, thi, thi, thi, thee. thi, thee, thi. thi. thi. the. theat, theat, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, and and... And I was excited. And when they opened the door, they said the theme of the party is people Hugh thinks are mad. Oh my God. They'd only invited people he doesn't really like. Oh my word. It was the best party I've ever been to. But brilliant. Oh, the last question, Josh. So we always end with the

same question, which is based on Matthew Crosby, passing on a message to his wife who listened to the podcast. Is there anything that your husband does, parenting wise that annoys you, that you haven't brought up face to face, but were he to listen to this podcast? Oh gosh. This this takes sort of passive aggression to a new new new new new new new new new new new new new new new new new new new new the the the to a th. th. th. th. th. th. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. thia. toe. the. the toe. toe. tooes. tooes. tooes. the the the the the toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. the the the the the the the the the the the the the. the the the. the. the. the theaa. th. their. their. their. toea. toea. toea. toea. toea. toe. toe. the this this takes sort of passive aggression to a new level, doesn't it? It always ends the interview on a weird note. Yeah, I think what's awful about me guys is that I have not kept any of my criticisms of his parenting to myself. So there's nothing he doesn't already know about like, oh no you don't do it like that. The first four months when we're kind of like living in the dark scurrying around, you know, you, you, you, th, th, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all th, all th, all, all, all, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii, thii, thi, thi, thi, that. The first four months, we were kind of like living in the dark, scurrying around,

you know, no day or night, just sort of trying to, all I was ever doing was whispering, if you do it like that, you're gonna wake him up. If you do it like that, that's gonna happen. Oh, no, no, no, Well then that's the message. Rob, I'm really glad that you've got something you've finally said to him that. Yeah. Yeah. That's the message for Steen. So he doesn't want to track back and defend. Oh I've only mess he. He gets called a big green bastard at football because he's massive. He's he. He's he he he he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he. He's he. He's got. He's he's he's he. He's he. He's he. He's he. He's he. He's he. He's he. He's he. He's he. He's he. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's he. He's he. He's he. He's he. He's he. He's he's he's he's th. He's th. He's th. He's th. He's th. He's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he. He's he. He's and he always wears that green Australia shirt? Does he? Okay I'm gonna start calling him a big green bath inserted around the house then. Yeah, just so he doesn't miss you, miss you guys,

yeah, fair enough. Yeah, that's what I'll do. Now he's absolutely brilliant. He's everything you'd want to have to co-parent with really hands on and funny and makes you laugh the times, and the times, the their the go shh all the time and kind of calms the baby yeah I was so sort of stressed to try to calm the baby and he just started dancing to the shushin app like as if it was techno and I was so tired it was just like the funniest thing that ever happened to's a new thing we can do the brilliant things that they do that we don't tell them. Yeah. We do that do positive and negative because you don't you don't find the time to give someone a compliment dear when you're in middle of by looking after a baby so that's nice the way to end

look Sarah Sarah there's a nice'm going to run through your tour like I'm Steve Wright. Success story. Yeah it's called. Success story. Hayes, Dunstable, St. Albans, Norwich, Norwich, Storne, St. Albans, Norwich, Walden's, the Elk's Hill, Stoke, Stoge, Tunbridge, Waltham, Portsmouth, Yovil, Guilford, Gilford, Cambridge, Dartford, Leeds and Leeds, both in the same night. Northampton, Brighton, Oxford, Newcastle, Hull, Manchester, Birmingham, Dublin, Cork,

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At some point within six bumps your husband may dance to the shush up in a a techno way and that 13 seconds of laughter will live with you forever. That will keep you going it will be enough yeah. Thanks Sarah that's brilliant thank you so much. Thanks Sarah that's great thank you so much for doing it. Thank you bye. Sarah Pasco you know what I'm doing during this outro yeah yeah you just done a yogurt I've just taken a bite of yogurt that yogurt that yoo. I know th that th that that that that th that th that that th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th tha tha tha tha the tha that that that that the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th is th is tha tha tha tha tha tha tha tha tha tha tha'a'a'a'a'a'a'a'a'a'a'a'a'a'a'a'a'a'a' thaken a bite of yogurt. That yogurt been there for an hour? I know, but what am I going to do? It keeps...

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But she didn't make my yogurt. Where's my yogurt, Rose? I've got to go and record. Where's my yogurt? Go carry up with my yogurt. Get some flax seeds on there, Rose. That was really good that. Yeah, I love Sarah Pascar, Patra on tour, buy her books, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, th. their. th. th. th. th. th. thoome. thoom. thoom. thoom. thoom. thoom. thoom. thoom. thoom. thoom. thoom. tho, she's. tho, she's. tho, she's. tho, she's. tho, th. th. th. th. th. She. She. She. She. She. She. She. She. She. She. She. She's. She's. She's. She's. She's. She's. She's. She's. She's. too. tooe. tooe. too. too. tooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo. She's. She's. She's. She's brilliant. Closing in on national treasure status. Go see Sarah Pascar on tour buy her books. She's absolutely lovely and if you see Steen in the street tell him to come back to football we're lower numbers. See you later. Bye.