Parenting Hell with Rob Beckett and Josh Widdicombe - S12 EP19: Tom Rosenthal

Episode Date: March 10, 2026

Joining us this episode to discuss the highs and lows of parenting (and life) it's the brilliant comedian and actor - Tom Rosenthal. Tom Rosenthal is touring across the UK and Ireland with his show, ‘Whatever People Say I Am, That’s What I Am' - including an extra London show at the Clapham Grand on 14th May – tickets on sale now at  www.tomrosenthal.net Parenting Hell is available to watch on Spotify every Tuesday and Friday. Please subscribe and leave a rating and review you filthy street dogs... xxx If you want to get in touch with the show with any correspondence, kids intro audio clips, small business shout outs, and more.... here's how: EMAIL: [e-mail] Follow us on instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@parentinghell⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Sales, advertising, and general enquiries: [e-mail] A 'Keep It Light Media' Production  (Copyright 2026) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

This episode is presented by Adobe Acrobat Studio. Josh, as a new parent, you get loads of information just chuffed at you. Oh, mate, it never ends, does it? And it's so difficult to know what's helpful, what's important, what I should be ignoring, what I should hold dear to my heart. It just goes on and on. Well, imagine that's your job dealing with tons of data and information. No, no, no, no, no, thank you.

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And can you say Josh Whittaker Are they getting worse Rob? Yeah I think they are What age? 22 month old? I don't know if that's good or bad

No I've lost, it's so mental that like That was my world But now all I know is 8 and 10 year olds What I like about this is the email Is the most brief and to the point one Go on You know, normally it's like, love the show.

Been listening since the lockdown guys. And you've got me through some tough times and some runs. That kind of stuff. Hello. I'd like to submit a recording of my 22-month-old attempting to say Rob and Josh's names. Thanks, Jen. Wow. We don't even know the name.

Is that AI? Is AI sent it? I don't know the name of the child. I think I'm on to something. Listen to this, Josh. Yeah? I feel like parenting is you're in a warehouse, yeah, and then the baby comes, you start on like the forklifts, right?

You're like, bloody, yeah, well, do I work this, yeah? You know, forget the for a bit, you're on a different job. And then as they grow up for age, the forklift no longer is useful at that age. So then you go, oh, actually, now I need to get on that ladder together. Add this ladder, well, then by the time you've worked it out, no, no, you're not on the ladder bit anymore. Now you're reception and now you're getting the lorries to come in and out.

that. So at every age, this is a terrible analogy, but do you know what I'm saying? Well, I've never worked in a warehouse and I have parented. Yeah. The warehouse I think was a bad eye. I felt, I... Well, it's like, you could say it's like comedy, Rob. Okay, here we go. You learn to play the rooms above the pubs. Yeah. And then just as you've done that, suddenly you've got to go into the Friday night clubs.

Yeah. And they're a different skill set, right? This is better than my life. And then you're like, I've mastered this. I'm good. I know what to do here with this. Then you get to do an office run through and you're like, well, what the fuck is this? Yeah. How do I do this?

And then you work out to make six producers laugh. But then suddenly there's 300 audience members and you're sat next to Sean Locke and Jimmy Carr's just over there. Yeah. And you're like, well, this is a new skill again. And what part of parenting is that? I don't know. I didn't know this was parenting.

I was just talking about jobs. No, that's the whole pod, yeah. Is there anyone else here with a better analogy? Well, he's about to turn up. Tom Rosen told today. What I was trying to say is, basically, once you learn the skill of that age, what you need for a one-year-old completely changes when the three and you're learning again. Yeah.

And I feel like that all the way through. Totally. And I feel like I'm slowly getting a handle of eight and ten, which is basically, I don't know what the fuck's going on, but I'm smiling my way through it. But then there'll be another set of challenges coming through. Exactly. Yeah.

So that's like a panel show and then you're on something different. Yeah, exactly. Or like, you know, you're, you've got a stock check in the wear out. I was doing where else. Exactly. Yeah, yeah. Now, normally I'll go, maybe our next guest will be able to help us with that. If we've got like Giovanna Fletcher on.

Yeah, yeah. Or we've got Tom Rosentile on. I don't think he'll know either. So let's have a guess at what Tom Rosenthal's going to be like as a parent. Well, he's already late. Yeah. I've worked with him a lot. Yeah.

Very eccentric. And you did a show in Edinburgh with Tom Rosenthal in 2009. Yeah, so me and Tom Rosenthal had a slight argument over the music that we played in the room before people arrived. Oh, no. So you know that in the dressing room at a football team? Should we ask him what you had an argument? Well, yeah, so I'll tell you what happened and then you can see if I was right. Basically, it wasn't really an argument because me and Joel Domit.

Yeah. Ian Smith, Liam Williams and Tom Rosenthal. Now, I'd say me and Joel Domit are probably the most mainstreamy people out of all of that. I'd say, yes. I'd say Liam Williams is the least. Least. He's very sort of artsy and very theatre. He was in a sketch group and stuff. And Tom, good actor, very good actor, actually.

But like in mainstream shows and Ian Smith is a bit more alternative comedy, but that's sort of mainstream comedy. So the music Tom Rosenzell was playing was like some... Imagine if you've been to a Beefa for four days and you're completely out your head and you'll just find yourself at a beach bar and the music going. Blah-Bul-la-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l. Now it's 11 a.mm on the Royal Mile in Edinburgh. Yeah. At the Tron, which is underneath, like, a student pub.

Yeah. And I've done all the flaring because I'm the best at it by a mile. A bay, you're incredible at flowering. Yeah. I'll do the talking. Joel Domit next to me looking pretty. Yeah. Yeah.

Tom Liam and Ian came out to flyer. I said you might as well fuck off indoors. Leave it to me. Because I know what I'm good at and that's selling to people in the street. Okay, so I'm going to ask him, what was your argument over and who was the best at flyer?

Yeah, and then basically I said, we need to put on some more relaxed poppy music because the people are coming in we just need the room to feel like a relaxed, good time. It may not be the best music in the world, but that is too weird and people are going to walk in and going,

what the fuck's that? Yeah, what are you trying to prove? What are you trying to prove? Quite a lot. What did you put on? I'll just sort of like chart hits Now that's what I'll call Music Hate You Through I don't know what it would have been then

It would have been my iPod on a shuffle of like I had a A little playlist of party songs Oh Tom Yes Tom We're actually recording the intro Yeah come in we've done in we've done the intro Tom Rosensoe welcome

Thank you Oh do you want me to Oh I love it Do you want me to switch with Tom Michael You can stay there if you want Oh yeah You're the first person who ever sat in the middle. Thank you for coming.

You're right. You look like Thomas Frank chewing chewing gum. Sorry. He'll defeat to Burnley. All right, sir. No, it's okay. No, we've forced you straight into this. My bad.

How are you? No. I got told you were doing the intro to me, but I couldn't hear it. I could just see your faces. Oh, no. Well, that's good because I've got two questions for you. Go on them. So should we let Tom calm down a little bit because it's hard to find.

Do you want me to get a tea? Do you want a water? I've had an absolute, I've had an absolute nightmare. Why do you tell us about your nightmare? And then we'll ask the question. I've got this new agent and they have like PR people that go with these of stuff. Yeah. It's very nice.

Yeah. And you go to an interview and there's always a person there and I always don't know what to sort of say to them. It's always a bit awkward and stuff. Yeah, yeah. So I don't really need that. What do they do? They don't do anything. Yeah, I have that.

Yeah, I get so. So the first time today, I was like, you know what? You don't have to go with me. I was just walking around in the rain for 20 minutes. I couldn't find it. I couldn't find this play. Also, there's TV trucks. They're filming something big outside.

I thought, I know, I know you're going. going on video and I know your podcasts are doing seven TV trucks. How much makeup is working on? It's like they're filming an ITV cop drama out there. Well, you could be in that, can you? Oh yeah, yeah. I'd love that. I think it's bigger deal than that. Is it? Yeah, the way people were acting, there's people craning their necks, and I don't think it was to see Sarah Lancashire. I thought it felt no disrespect to Sarah Lancash. She's a big deal. She's a big deal. There's a few security people looking at me a bit off

because I walked around the block like four times. It's like, stop trying to get a look at Tom Cruz is like no I'm trying to find Beckett in Whedickham. But yeah, thank you very much. I'm having me. It's a real honour. Oh, thank for doing it. My partner is a massive fan of you. And she listens to every single episode. Oh, God.

And so I'm therefore sort of forced to listen to sort of by a soxiety. So, yes. So when would you have to hear it by proxy then? Would you have it on in the car or in the house? Yeah, we listened to your interview with Adibaiowak. Fenma in the car. Do you remember that one? Yeah. Do you remember the bit in that interview when you were saying, well, I think you can put our success down to the fact that we're, you know, we have working class roots and that gives you a sort of fear that you have to keep working hard.

And if you look at the people that we started with, the real successes are actually kind of the ones that do have that fear and the ones who sort of faded away don't have that. And Gigi was like, are they talking about you? I was like, yeah, that's me. That's why I'm not on the biggest podcast I got that middle class laziness. No, but I wasn't talking about you directly. No, I know. It's a real privilege to be on this. We've got two questions for you that came up in the intro.

Hit me. You did the Lunchtime Club with Rock. Which for the listeners was basically, this was 17 years ago. When you're new comedians, you go out there and we got selected to be in a show where me and Tom, Joel Domit, Ian Smith and Liam Williams all did about 15. line up. Great line up. And it was on a midday, one o'clock midday. We all did 15 minutes each. It's about an hour and a half show. And did we get paid or they paid our accommodation? Yeah, it was accommodation. They paid accommodation to do it. There is. Oh, you got the photo or the poster? Oh, wow.

Let's have a look at that. It says, it's a five pound show. And it says, catch them now before they're huge. Normally when you see that on a poster, that is a lie. Yeah. Can I see it? So, Tom, the questions are, what did you and Rob have an argument about? Oh my God. It wasn't an argument. No, I do.

Well, I remember a slight conversation. I've called it a conversation. About, well, I mean, maybe it's the different thing, but it was about like what comedy is and what comedy should be, I think. Oh, no. Maybe this is a different thing to what you're thinking. No, this is not what we said, but I'm intrigued. Look, the Lajtime Club, you do 50 minutes every day. And as far as I understood it, it was a time to experiment and to sort of find your voice as a comedian.

So I took that on a few shows. Like I was quite influenced by Stuart Lee at the time. And I sort of tried doing the Stuart Lee thing. I did that sort of repeat something for a long time. And if you don't know Stuart Lee, he's an absolute master of his craft. But sort of part of his comedic style is he does something for so long that it kind of loses the audience.

But then he does it for so long and in such a musical sort of jazz-style way that it kind of brings the audience back. And he's so skilled that he can board the audience. And then when he picks his time to bring them back he kind of brings them back so i was trust him implicitly with that precisely and i was experimenting doing that having done stand-up for a couple of years and what would happen is i would do something for a long time and the audience would get bored

and then i'd try and bring him back and they've just gone they're lost it right it's hard on 15 minutes it's hard but you're not stew at lee and i feel like we had a conversation after one of those gigs and you were like tom you can't do that you're sort of taking the piss out of the audience and uh that sounds like i don't know i'm just sort of trying it out and i'm just sort of trying it out and And I feel like that is a reflection of our sort of different approaches. And yours has been way more successful. No, I think, no, I think my point was. There wasn't the dispute, Tom.

No, it wasn't the dispute. So there was two things that I was dealing with. One, you were trying to find your voice. I think I found my voice quite early. So I wanted to capitalize on my voice. You found your voice. The moment you came out of the vagina. You were unbelievable. And I remember thinking this when we were doing the lunchtime club.

Like this man, he just walks on stage and he's sort of the same. And forgive me if that's doing your discredit. but it felt like you were so natural on stage and you'd get on stage and you'd be like, do you guys toast bitter bread? And they'd be like, yeah. And he goes, oh, it's so hot. And when the dragon breath comes out,

I'm watching them, but like, that's not a joke. What's that? Why do they love that so much? I've never found out why either. It's just talking. And I'm sure, you know, your account of me in that show, I was so stressed before gigs. Yeah, you would pace.

I paced up and down and I'd sort of monothe up and I'd sort of, analog to myself and I'd be so stressed about going on stage and trying to trick the audience into liking me and you would just so naturally go on and they would and it stuck with me that really stuck with me and and I'm glad that you know you have become basically one of the most successful comedians of our generation because it would be depressing otherwise I think to see someone who was so naturally gifted at it who just sort of disappeared I think though I talking about that thing of like coming where you're coming from I had no other options than making this work so I was coming at it from a very professional, I'm good at this and I'm good at anything, so I've got to

make it work so I can know money from it, where you were coming at it from a more, which I'm, now I'm older and the pressure's off financially like that, he's like, oh what, that is exactly what you should be doing at the fringe, being silly, experiment, and messing around with stuff, but that's what the beauty of that show was that were all different. I mean, that wasn't what I said we argued about. God was the music before her. I have no, I have no memory of that. So you were playing some sort of mad, it was like sort of weird, like house music.

Yeah, yeah. Sounds like me. It was weird. And then I was like, but Tom, it's midday, and they're just like, like, a couple from Inverness. They're going to get, just put something like cheesy and shit on.

But that was an argument, but you went, all right, fair enough, and then we suck it on. Yeah. Whether it's with your besties or date night, get to all the hottest concerts with Go Transit. Go connects to all the biggest entertainment venues and makes it affordable with special e-ticket fairs.

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Rob's given his answer. Oh, mate, I've got a note. I would put Ian Smith as the best flyer personally, but it was good to be fair. But are you going to say you? Yeah, yeah. You're fantastic with people. You are, you know, you make them want to come.

I just repeat the same word at them for ages, and they're like, that sounds rubbish. But you were always so good, but you'll get on to your parenting anyway. But what I felt was like when people were trying to be too experimental like that at an early stage, I felt like Daniel Kitson, who I absolutely love, can do that Stuart Lee thing and stuff like that.

But both Stuart Lee and Kitsyn especially, learn the ropes in the clubs on the way up and learn how to do the basics so then you can sort of juggle with a ball, do you know what I mean? Where I think that people saw Kitson doing that and then they went straight into Lesby Kitsen where actually he...

I was trying to be Picasso when I couldn't paint, you know. No, you were still brilliant. One of the best gigs I've ever seen was when you had your dad in the audience and you fucking rinsed him for 20 minutes and I was dying. It's the funny that most ever laughed at a gig, I think, because it would just, you'd be really funny with it.

You was still doing your material, but in pulling him into it, taking the pissing out of him. He's a very good sport. He's been very supportive, and it's his fantastic career that allowed me to be experimental at the end of the French in 2011. Well, let's talk about you as a parent. Yeah, I'm so nervous about this, man. I mean, you've seen it?

I like, I just feel like... Is it because Gigi'll be listening? Yeah, yeah, she's a huge fan, and she, I mean, she does 99% of the parent. Like, I feel like, for me, parenting hasn't been hell. Like, I absolutely adore my baby, and I, I sort of adore my partner, but it's, it's, it's, it's, it's nothing to do with what I, what I, what I contribute, you know, like, is that, is that bashfulness? I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, seemingly, so, so happy, she's 11 months. Yeah, she's 11, uh, and she's such a sort of

joy to be around and, uh, parenting really sort of shines a light on your deficiencies as a person. Oh yeah. And I, and I, oh yeah, don't worry about that. I've had the best year of my life, with a lot of the worst things that have happened in my life in this 11-month period. And I can't believe how much I love my baby. I honestly, I don't think I've ever missed a human being before having a baby, to be honest. And now I'm like away from a bit for like five days. It's just like, what's the point? But with the baby.

And it is absolutely magical. But yeah, Gigi's really been through it. She had some of the postnatal mental health stuff. And it's just been, I'm so grateful to be at this. point with a happy family but I mean it is a lot it's been a difficult yeah 11 months what didn't help was that I went to did a full Edinburgh fringe run uh in the sort of peak of the the mental health episode so right it was uh you're kind of locked in by that you can't yeah how old was a baby at that point uh she would have been like six months was a baby up with you yeah yeah yeah the whole

time. I've never experienced going on stage as a sort of relief as like the easiest part of my day. But that's sort of what it is. I'm looking forward to doing stuff. I used to think, well, this is really tricky. And now it's just, I'm just talking to people in a room. I don't go there is absolute shitstorm. But yeah, I speak, I mean, it's, it's amazing, in it? And yeah, man, I always get little bits of your life and stuff from Gigi. And she's like, oh, I've gone to the Maldives and it's just, was in like breaking down in tears. Yeah. What's happening in that? Josh is sleeping on the floor and he's on antidepressants. I was going to...

It's mental when you hear about what you say. Full breed of chipping because we don't give a fuck. We don't sound bad when you repeat it back. I've had the floor sleeping thing as well, though, to be honest. Because I only really discovered I'm a real sleep. I'm mad in my sleep about me. I sort of kick stuff. And so I've been...

We went to Glen Eagles recently. Yeah, so I heard about your floor sleeping. And I had to sleep in the floor and the bathroom, yeah. Just the three of you? We're going to a real luxury hotel. Glenn Eagle's supposed to be amazing. So nice. But it was you, Gigi, your baby, and John Robbins.

John Robbins was there? John Robbins. It was my birthday. It was a golf holiday and a family holiday. Oh, so you went to your family and then someone to play golf him. Yeah, precisely, yeah. That's quite intense on John. No, he loved it.

I would say, though, that's quite a lot of pressure on John, isn't it? Ask him, man, ask him if he loved it. So, right, so Gigi and the baby. and John are in the bed. You're in the car. Throw it in the bunker, one in the r. This is what I mean, man. I've not done a lot of the night stuff

because like Gigi will wake up with a baby and because we sleep in separate rooms. I mean, I basically sleep through it and my baby also sleeped through. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So how long's been breastfeeding or is it still going? No, it's sort of, we do like the mixed feed thing, but it's still going.

How long did you breastfeed before? Is it quite a lot of the start? We have never exclusively breastfed. Yeah. It's always been mixed because, again, the bloody birth was a night. man, five day labour and so it took a while to latch in all this. Oh my goodness. You would not believe it, yeah. What happened? Wow. We went in, we went in and they were like, this isn't

good and it looked like the water's broken, but it because it wasn't a bloody flush, it was just a little dribble or like it hasn't. So just go wait at home for five days. And we, and she was in like, immense pain for five days. And then we went back in. And they were like, no, it actually probably did break. We also got, we also got a dola. The doler was like, oh, if you do all these stretches and stuff, there's no chance of your baby being back to back. And then we get in and like the baby's back to back So you're just a professional liar, are you?

Right? So we get to the hospital And it's always bloody awful You're in so much pain But it's not kind of And then they were like We've got to do an emergency seat section Yeah, we cut it out

And so you're grim And then the recovery's men to Oh, bloody hell, mate Yeah, it was a lot for Gigi And you know, I was there Do you know what I mean? That's why I can't be like Oh God, it's been such a hard life

Because she's been through it all Yeah And it's tough that Because you Obviously it is horrific for Gigi, but it is still horrific for you as well. Because I remember we had an emergency

cesarean and... We, come on. I don't think he could use we then. No, he did it? All right, all right, sorry. I had an emergency scenario. We had a baby, but Rose had to see. You was near an emergency season.

Sorry, Rose had an emergency cesarian. And I was there. Yeah. But it is scary because it feels. feels like a TV medical drama. Yeah. Because suddenly you're putting you on scrubs. And, mate, you, and, oh, we had this thing as well when they were like,

they gave us some painkillers. And they, and they, and they, and then they, they check, like how far up. They, they, they can't. It's not that far up. Oh, the feeling, I thought you meant the baby. So, no. It was back to back. Back in the throat, would it?

So, so, so this geyser is, is, he's sort of touching Gigi to be like, can you feel there? So then, he feels up to a neck. And he's like, can you feel there? And she's like, No, and then they all look, and they're like, that ain't good. That ain't good. And Gigi sees his face being like, that ain't good. Basically, the painkillers have gone too, so then she, like, couldn't swallow and stuff.

Oh, my God. Oh, my God. And I'm just like, this is fine. You know, that bloody me with that dog in that burning down house, you know. This is fine, this is fine. What are you like in a crisis? To be honest, I think I'm good, but I've got, no one else has ever said that. No.

I just feel good. I don't think I'll make anyone. I didn't make you feel good before a stand-up gig. Do you know what I mean? No, that's that mean? That was not being silly. That was what you're in. I love your stand-up, Tom.

So, some people, they are... I think I'm quite good in a crisis because I think I'm panicky in day-to-day life. But when the bad thing happens, you're quite good at... I'm like, right, well, this is happening now. To be honest, we have talked about this, and I was quite emotionless during the entire thing,

which I thought is good because you don't want your partner to be like, panicking. Fuck, fuck, but we have spoke about it afterwards and Gigi was like, well, you worried when that was happening? And I was like, no, not really. And she was like, I wish you were a bit more worried. Like, I wish you were worried, but you was acting not worried.

Yeah, no, of course, like, it's not good when the bloody doctors are going, oh, this ain't good, you know what I mean? Yeah. But it was one of those slightly dissociative things. And then obviously the baby comes out and the baby's like, appy, like a, this really bizarre sort of hallucinatory experience where I looked at my baby's face. and I could sort of saw some of my ancestors. I saw like my grandparents' face in the face. And then I put the baby down. And the baby seemed really happy.

And you're like, you want to be looking after this new thing that's just coming to the world, doesn't know what's going on. But there's also like your partner, you love more than, and you want to be like, are you all right? And there's not really a funny end to this. It was absolutely horrendous. No, but I think it's good that there's a happy end. Yeah.

Well, the happy end is my baby. And she came out and she's honestly so wonderful and seems to have no impacts from how, horrendously gross her introduction to the world was. She's got no idea. I'm just, yeah, so grateful to all the people. So how is it now, you said you had a tricky 11 months? Are you still sort of in that moment, or is it getting a little bit calmer?

It's so much better now, like, Gigi's like mental space. It's like she's basically like her again. She's got a bit of an iron deficiency. I don't know whether you guys are coming across this. So she's still pretty tired. Yeah, we had an iron deficiency as well. So she's got to get an IV soon. Lood.

It looks very looted. As in she wouldn't do the irony. Yeah. Am I right? It's a crease here. Yeah. I've done to Tammler today. I look like a piece of shit what's going on. But man, I'm so proud of her and I'm so proud of her baby.

It's absolutely magical, man. But if your partner is going through that, Lou went through a very difficult time with breastfeeding and mental health problems, there's only so much you can do as a partner. You want to be there, but you can't, you know, what can you do, what you can say, because they might need some therapy or medication. There's only so much to do as a mental health. as an supportive partner but um it's good to calm down a little bit now we had to snip her tongue did you have that oh tongue tie yeah

oh snip i thought you said sniff she had this little does it smell like milk she got any and i didn't like i mean i hated the person came around my house and had to look clip the they did it just in the house yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah what that of fucking dogs balls i thought it'd be a hospital no honestly it was don't like any surgeries on tiny babies no absolutely but fortunately hers made her life a lot better you know so she's no she's no breastfeeding really happy and she's she's such a happy baby man like I see these other babies out and they all crying and stuff and mine's just pretty good just waves at people I feel so blessed and so fortunate and I don't really want to have another because the lottery suggests well that's the thing is that's what everyone says

if one comes out it's it's nothing to do with our parenting it's just like we're it's we've just been so fortunate out that you're lucky so she's she's sleeping well then yeah she sleeps through the night man again I don't really want to broadcast it to loads of people because you feel like I'm jinxing it but she's she's an absolute dream well there's talk to you about your sleep then. Yeah, go on. So you're sleeping. I'm sleeping amazingly well. It's ridiculous. I'm in a separate room, man.

Sometimes I have the monitor, if Gigi's not feeling well, but the monitor, literally, she never, she wakes up at seven. It's crazy. I don't know what's going on. Why do you sleep in the second room? Well, yeah, because I've found out, like, apparently when I'm asleep, subconscious, I just sort of do lots of

kung fu. Like, I'm like this, and I have no sense of it. To be fair, now I think about it, when I go to sleep, Yeah, well, there's like four pillars on the bed and I have like a couple of duvets. And when I wake up, Matt's one pillow on the bed. You've got a couple of duvays? I have to.

Because you lose one. I'm not lying. I've started using four duvets. And I'll wake up with one. What kind of tug situations are? I don't know what is going on in my sleep. The cumulative tug of 28. But Gigi's like, there is no hope of me sleep because I'm just like this apparently.

What's going on in my subconscious? So is a baby in bed, yeah. We've tried, we've tried it. We've tried to sleep. Yeah. Like all of us. And, you know, one. 1 a.m. she'll just be like you have to leave.

So are you in separate rooms forever now? I think possibly, yeah, yeah, yeah. We always like fantasize about the time where we could sleep in the bed together. But I think I need to get some kind of treatment. I don't know what this thing is. So what you're untenable for someone to sleep with? Like I'm, I don't know. I don't experience it.

I don't have nightmares. I don't have night terrors or anything. But something to do with my. And you sleep well. You wake up refresh. I sleep fantastically, yeah. But I'm, you would put a bit on, see what kind of calories are burning.

Yeah. Maybe that's why I can't get fat. Have you thought about filming yourself? You can't get fat? I really struggle to get fat, yeah. Oh, really? You can eat and drink whatever you want. I'm trying, but I haven't done,

I haven't got out of breath for like four years, and I just look the same. So I think it might be the stuff I'm doing at night. The heavy cardio that I'm doing in my bed. I don't know. I don't know, man. But like, I generally would be curious. You have a big list of shit.

If anyone knows what's going on with me, like I want to find out. So what's happening then in the night? Well, mate, I don't know. Right, okay. But Gigi says, like, I'm doing. sort of Jackie Chan come through the entire. That kicking and legs ever.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. From the moment you drop off. She just thinks it's impossible to ever sleep in a bed with me. It could be an excuse because she is the first person to say this. Yeah, I was going to say you just doesn't actually like that. And have you slept with other women?

Different kind of podcast, mate. Oh, strap in. No, I honestly, it's never been reported to me before. No. And I'm quite concerned about it because I would love to sort of stay in a bed. But I think it's... What's time's bed you got?

It's big enough. A normal d'abora. Yeah, I mean, Glen Eagles is... Yeah, so that's the biggest bed you're going to get. We tried it once and then kicked me to the bathroom. So you stepped to the floor the bathroom. Yeah, yeah. The thing is, I don't mind stevie on a floor, man.

I got quite a bad back. So for me, floor is way better than like a soft bed. But why the butt-heated floor in the bathroom, was it? Yeah. Why can you go on the floor in the room? Well, I would have been too close to Simmy, who was also in the room. And apparently, I'm not only moving, but I'm making sounds. Simmy's the baby?

Yeah, Simmy's the baby. And she thought that it would be too disruptive to the baby's sleep to have me anywhere even near. She does like me. So were you on the floor or were you in the bar? I need to clarify. Our relationship is good. She's not just like desperately trying to kick me off so you listen to your podcast.

But yeah man, look, the baby's sleeping really well. I'm sleeping really well, Gigi's sleeping really well. We're just not around each other. Can I ask you on the floor of the bathroom or did you go with the bath? Yeah, no, I was in the floor of the bathroom, but I put a few duvets. Oh my God. A few dovet.

You have to ring more duvets. We rang up to. So the service at Glen Eagles is absolutely incredible. right so all the people they kind of know who's staying out and they'll be like right it's the best place of a bit really i went just before christmas a couple of years ago yeah and it's the most festive experience i've ever had most festive experience i loved it and and you can testify to this all of the staff there they'll be like mr whittickham like how was your golf yesterday did you enjoy everything about each other so they're all talking to

each other about and say did you enjoy that drink that the barman made you or that's so good so like at 9 p.m on like the second night were there or whatever we ring up and go look we need more bedclothes because Tom needs to sleep on the bathroom, right? So first off, so I get a couple of like underlings come up with like whatever dovets and sheets and yeah and then there's underling a bit of bedding. Okay, I was just because basically the not the people you've been speaking to new people. The average staff, right? Average stuff.

I don't know, how would you say not boss? I'd just say a member of the housekeeping. Okay, a member of the housekeeping came as opposed to an underling, right? I'm sorry. Undering and average person. It's not really helping my accessibility here. Yeah, this sort of privileged

middle class boy. This underling will be my bedclothes. The proletariat popped up. Right. And so a couple of the staff come up and they give me some duvets and some pillows. And I put it on the bathroom floor. And then the boss of housekeeping comes up

and is like, Mr. Rosenthal, are you sure that we can't sort of you some sort of bedding? I'm like, no, no, I'm fine on the floor. a problem with Glen Eagles. You can't solve this. And then the rest of the time at Glen Eagles, all the staff are just being like,

did you, how was your sleep? What do you sleep? Are you sure you do it? Are you sure? On the bathroom floor? Are you sure? I think that the only person in the Glen Eagles history who's chosen to sleep on the bathroom floor.

Yeah, because I'm like, no, I like it. It was nice. Did you not got in with John Robbins? I could have done, actually. We have to take it up with him. I did think about it. I did think about it. Then your goblin comes out.

Yeah, I don't want to upset someone else's sleep. I'm perfectly happy. the goblin on the bathroom floor. And it was your birthday? And did the staff know? I forgot about that fact. And did the staff know it was your birthday? Yeah, they did. Yeah, yeah. So they thought, they've got a great story there. Um, I mean, I mean, perhaps, I'm very, very grateful to them. I like, I like sleeping on floors. Well, Glenn Eagles was actually closed, unfortunately. It was too frosty, so we had to be, we traveled up to Scotland, but we went to some local golf courses. Dunhill, Dunblane, absolutely superb. Andy Murray had played Dunblane a few

days before I was actually and it was fantastic sadly John Robbins won both of the golfs how much do you play even on my birthday wouldn't let me as much as possible which is basically none you know right obviously I'm a baby yeah it's got pop out for six hours yeah it's uh I've since all of my sort of I've messed my knee up so much so I can't play sports for you know actual athletic people yeah so now all I can do is even old golf's the only thing you can't do you can't play father-side football anymore he's a good player as well sad I tried comedian's football like once yeah last new years fin Taylor slightly under hit the past and I tore another ligament.

No, really? Yeah, yeah. It's sad, but I'm old now, man, so I'm a golf guy. How old are you? I'm 30A. I'm at retirement age for professional. Yeah, there's a reason why they have to retire. Ronaldo's beating me, sure, but, you know, most of them. He's not sleeping on the floor, is he? Let's talk about your tour? Please. Yes.

Why not? What's it called? It's called, whatever people say I am, that is what I am. Oh, yeah, and you've got the Arctic monkeys-style cover of the tour? I've somewhat ripped off the Arctic monkeys, yes. Slightly. Are they been in touch to Sue? No, the show's not been that successful yet. Fingers crossed, they soon.

It's quite hard to type in that to find it, isn't it? Listen, I know you... Again, me and you coming from different angles. Your tour's like one word, smash or whatever. Boink, boink. Yeah, boink, boink. I've got an announcement next tour. Is it?

What's it going to be? Bain, going to be. Picture of you on a... Bobby Dazda. Why is your show called giraffe? Because, one, because there's a reason why... Sorry, who's promoting their talk? At the end of the show, I explain why.

So it's a reference to that. Also, it's quite handy because it's a good way to theme the poster with an eye-catching image because you can't be copyrighted by giraffes. And they're everywhere. Ah, very clever. And I wore a giraffe costume to go to the Brits to sell tickets. And it's quite good for them in the draft thing. Well, this is it.

I've been offered loads of opportunities to meet giraffes at local zoos. Yeah, you turn them down? Yeah. I've met some giraffes. And I haven't even had to call it giraffe. Oh, sorry, I didn't realize there's most pathetic dick swinging conversation all the time. My baby's got a toy giraffe. It's called Albertine.

Oh, is it? Is it the one the chewy one? It's massive. Oh, no. There's a little soap in a giraffe. They chew on it. Have you seen that one? Yeah, we had that one.

It's like a little, like a teething toy. So have you got the dates there, Rob? Yeah, I have? I just don't write Tom Rosen's. Yeah, I'm really proud of the show. My last tour, the one about being circumcised, it really tied me out and stressed me out. and I sort of didn't enjoy it very much.

Because you went in deep trauma. It was pretty deep, yeah, and I tried to make it all funny. But also, I was trying to convince people that circumcising babies is a bad thing, which isn't necessarily the funniest sort of thing. And also, not everyone's doing it that week. It's not like trying to get people to quit smoking. You know what I mean? And I find these circumcisions, people have got their minds pretty made up.

No one's in the balance. It's not a swing vote, is it? yeah it really sort of way quite heavy up here so I thought this tour I just wanted to make a show that I'd enjoy The single song was a regret But what is this show then that was a bit more traumatic I just wanted to like basically enjoy myself on stage which I genuinely have sort of never really managed to achieve

I feel like as we talked about before the lunchtime club man It was stressed me out and I was always trying to like give people what I thought they wanted and try and become a version of myself that I thought that and it's not actually how it works Like you were a perfect example in 2011 You sort of go up and you just want to have fun You want to like enjoy the experience and the privilege of being on stage and try and sort of like express the joy.

Which is a connection, isn't it? This is what I never saw. You're so good at stand up. You're so funny. I think that's why you're acting career in a way sort of that zoomed off to such massive heights. Because it took the pressure off you trying to find out who you were. You could just do that. Here we go.

Wow, you should work in press, man. That's why I think podcasts are so good though because people get to see people properly. and you're on stage enjoying yourself like when your dad that's why I noticed when we did lunch at our club you were like either doing stuff self-sabotaging or

being the funniest out of all of us by a country mile because you were nailing down on that thing so if you're doing that in this tour it's going to be unmissable because you're a brilliant stand-up That's very very kind man and yeah I have enjoyed it

performing it so much more than any other show and it is kind of speaking to what you just said basically because the reason I call it that is a series of routines about things that people have categorised me as and I'm kind of of joking about how people see me which I feel like I can be more authentic to myself if that makes sense without wanting to be too sort of wanky about it

that's the best that's the best comedy if you can be honest to be yourself for the day it's Rob. Exeter Oxford the old fire station Oxford the old fire station Matt and A my guy yeah oh my goodness your two five eight things stretches me outside my how can you do that piece of piss yes easy we've got a question for you for me do you change your pants after a show well if I I'm doing 2.58? Absolutely not. No. No, after a gig on the way home, if you're going to go and driving the car for a few hours.

No. Do you? Yeah, I'll get changed into a different outfit. Are you worried about a car crash? Well, I'm going to crash my car because my arseeing. They'll cut you out and they'll be like, oh, says, Rob Beckett. Are we trying to keep it out? You're a smelly pair of underarms. Well, that's the thing. I buy cheaper pants, so I can have two pairs. I'll get two pairs for one of your son's built. Oxford.

I do have, to be fair. a tenth of the material to be fair do you have pants where like you've had a good gig so you're wear them again no i i sometimes pick up a pair of pants and like no this is too important i can't wear their money to wear some oh really all that second level pants yeah i'll wear anything hell podcast is uh if i had a nice if i had a big day like a like an important day and i went to my pants drawer i'd probably pick a nicer pair yeah no so i i i will it's more so that if i'm doing sport in the moneyed ones that like comfy. If I'm running in them or playing football. Whereas I've got some pants where I'm like, if I'm just going to sit on the, like sit around the house, I can wear these ones because

they're not as comfy, but I could not do a long drive in these ones. I've actually got something to admit about my pants. They creep up my fire, but I've got big fires. All I can think about is the chillblane on your penis man, which I was, I just let, which is not a chill blame. No. How is that now? It's absolutely fine. I put a bit of a suit cream on it. Gone the next time. It's just a bit dry skin. I've had a bit of a problem with my pants. Go on. I bought, I got some new shorts for when I was, I got given some shorts for my runner's world cover. And can I guess that they're shorter than your actual pants?

No, they're not shorter than my actual pants. I did get some that were shorter than my actual pants, so they went straight in the charity shop back. Okay. But the inner pant. So Tom, do you know about this? If he goes for a run, he has big baggy sunswell boxer shorts on, you know,

that big granddad ones. And then what he does is when he pulls on his running shorts, you know they have the inner lining, like a swimming trunk in the lining for running. He keeps the pants on underneath and pulls. them up so they're sort of billowing out of the bit that goes right into the top of the thigh. Uh-huh. I see that. Yeah. So there was, the pants was too tight and the sun spells were two groups up. Yeah. And I, I've actually caused a bit of a sore area. Oh, goodness. Chaffing. Chaffich. Because you shouldn't be wearing the pants. Yeah. That's why they're design like that,

to keep everything in the little gusset and then you can run free. Do you, do you find it if you're running, like you sort of will blame a time on... I don't do times. Tom, this man you're talking to is on the front cover of runners world and I said to him, watch your P, B, running. Do you know what he said? Long. No, seven.

But no, no time or distance. He just looked to me dead in the eye. The front cover of runners one and went, seven. What is it seven kilometers? I don't know what that means. Seven out of ten. I think you meant seven kilometers is the furthest you've gone, but you don't know how fast you run. I think I might have done seven miles.

No, I can't have. I simply can't off. That should be your quote on run as week you have it. I simply can't off. Tips for your next marathon in the next page. I can't have run seven months. Sorry, let's do the rest of these gigs. Brighton, Reading, Lester, Canterbury, Colchester, Swindon, Bristol, Newcastle,

Sheffield, Glasgow, Edinburgh, Chorley, Coventry, Coventry, Dublin, Belfast, Cardiff, Birmingham, Reading, Regan again, Norwich, Cambridge, York, Liverpool, Leeds, Sulford, Sulford, Laurie, Bath Comedia, London Clapham Grand, York, Newcastle, Liverpool again, Chorley again. It's not long in it, fair play. You finishing the tour in Chorley, nice hometown gig? I don't really know where it's finishing or not. I think you're supposed to finish it, clapping with like a big bang. It's not.

But it's not now. No, I think it probably was, and then you added more in the September. I mean, I'm in that sort of middle scenario where we're like, this is selling really well, we should add some dates. And now the Oxford matinee is a struggle. Do you got what I mean? I was massively on. That's your home one, right?

My home one would technically be Redding. We're thinking about adding a maidenhead, to be fair, because that would be actually my home. Do you live there now? You're still in North London? I live in Bristol now. Do you? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Are you still living, like, right by Arsenal?

I did, yeah, yeah. Because Tom came with me. I got invited to the director's box at Arsenal, and I didn't realize I've got a plus one. Yeah. And she went, where's your plus one? I was like, oh, I thought it was only one person. So I knew that Tom lived about 10-minute walk away.

So Rangley, if you can get to the hybrid, Emirates Now. and you have to have a suit and a tie you can get in the director's box. Popped in. Of course you're very privileged to make your 2016 recap with the picture of us and David O'Leary. I just found it's a very random photo. Beautiful, Rae. That's another thing.

I can't, I don't go to football. There's no time. I know I live in Bristol, but I just can't. I managed to watch him on the phone and stuff, but it just goes away. So why are you in Bristol? Is that where did you shop? Yeah, she's from there, yeah. So you've got the help nearby?

Yeah, that's where her mum lives, yeah. Yeah, that's good. And you're not too far really from your parents, I suppose. No, no, no, no. It's working out quite well. We tried to move to where I was brought up in Cookham for a little bit, and that just didn't. That wasn't good.

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Yeah, it's interesting. Because I think, I'm obviously with a Nepo baby, and you have to be aware. Well, you're not. I don't think you are a nepo baby because you haven't gone into sport. Oh, thanks. I appreciate that.

Well, tell the Instagram comments. No, but I don't think you are a nepo baby in the same way. No, I think nepo baby is more that if they got you into that industry where like you've come from privilege because your dad did well and that kind of thing. Yeah. But I don't think nepo about that. Do you think about your kids being nepo babies at all? Yeah, it does concern me.

Not concern me. That's wrong. That's the wrong word. I don't worry about it. Obviously, it crosses you mind. day to day. I feel like though I've still got, because of my background of where I'm from and my

working class routes and doing who do you think you are and I was basically just like farm hands from the west country. I feel like I've got a few get out of jail free cards, you know, go past monopoly, go just send her a road. It's DNA journey which was a very

different show and definitely not a tiny TV version of who you are. I feel like my family's histories earn a couple of guys. Right. free runs at yeah yeah yeah so how many generations until they become their grandkids are the ones they're friends are the ones they're when their grandkids have got a podcast so does it how was it how did it

feel to grow up with your dad on TV honestly kind of fantastic to be honest like it was such a privilege and such a cool thing I mean yeah there were like some kids at school that you know like you sort of puts you on a little pedestal and they want to sort of bully you but I went to such a nice school that the bullying was so... And you don't think if you like him, so it's hard to like. It was just, honestly, like, if you could pick a dad, you would pick him. Like, I got to see Michael Schumacher win a world title, and I got driven around Hungary by

Fernando Alonzo, and I went to a rugby world cup final and all this stuff. It's just like, I mean, I can't really, I don't have any problems with it. It was amazing. And he's also, he's such a... I saw my dad have a fight on the South Circular one. I think there's certain famous people. Like, there's certain famous people that, are quite polarising, right?

Yeah. Your dad is so, I think... If you're like Clark's and son or whatever, like some people will love it and some people will hate it, but my Jim, Jim Rosetta, everyone was just like, oh, I really like... You either really like him, we've got no opinion. Precisely, yeah, which is basically a split

between men and women, you know what I mean? You know what I mean? That's sick. Yeah, I'm like, hey girls, my dad's Jim Rosenthal's out here. As a sports anchor, he does nothing political, really. He's sort of just in the world of sport. And also, on top of that, it's like... Very smooth.

He doesn't do anything that's like humiliate him. He wears his suit and just says, welcome to the show. Precisely. What do you think? It's not like, well, me and Ramesh do, really. It's a different industry, isn't it? Can I ask another question? Please.

Because you've, I don't think we've discussed this before. It's rare we get a new topic. I remember, and I've never discussed this with you, but you are on John Richardson's documentary about OCD. Yeah, man, yeah. And you've got OCD? Yeah, man, yeah, yeah. And what's that like as a parent, which is,

because I was always very much controlled in life. life and life was control, apart from when I was drinking. But when parenthood came along, it was like, oh, you can't control this. This is carnage. Rob's got a good analogy with a warehouse, but we won't go into that. No, yeah, I don't think that's a time. Yeah, but how did that play with having OCD? Honestly, like, for me, I only manifest in sort of quite private insanity, as in just like tapping stuff a certain number of times or looking at stuff as a certain number of times.

if I'm nervous before something. For instance, just before this, I did have to walk over some paved stones like eight times. It feels like quite a private thing. Wasn't that just that you were lost? It's that, yeah. But also, so it's more like odd suspicious behavior that I'm hoping to kind of hide from my child

for as long as she, no, we won't notice. Right? I've never really been a kind of clean freak OCD person. It's much more just like odd ways that my brain tries to control life. Yeah. Which are, yeah, privately insane and increase during periods of stress,

such as before shows or before doing something like this. So, like, yeah, I mean, I'm not going to pretend that our house is like a particularly controlled environment. And honestly, I found Simi's propensity for being a mad baby, like only really heartening. I'm never trying to, like, control her and be like, stop pooping on the floor. And I was just like, oh, you poop on the floor.

That's really fun. Yeah. the smell of the poop. I must say it. Like, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. It smells. Call me old school.

Oh, we got a dog. Oh, my dog. My dog sometimes does try and eat the nappies. That is the horrible. It's so bad. Once, honestly, this is the worst thing I'm saying. I'm so sorry, Spotify. Once, the baby learns from the dog, so the dog has gone and have a lure.

And then the baby's gone into the, and also that, and we're like, no, this is, that is parenting hell when your baby tries to eat its own ecrement. With the dogs competing with the baby all the time. Dogs are lovely. But don't you ever look at them, think you're thick as shit. They say dogs are so intelligent.

They're not. They're fucking idiots. And they're so needy sometimes. Just like, mate, fucking back off. I have a bit of self-respect. You pick up your baby and your kissy baby. It's like, and then the dog... Chill out, mate. It was the same treatment as the baby.

It's like, no, you're not my jeans. You're a mutt from Romania. You got a rescue one from Romania. You got a street dog. Yeah, we've got a street dog. Mother-bunny street dog. So my baby is learning from a street dog just going through the bins trying to get...

We're just giving you some milk. We also think the baby might be allergic to the dog, which is a horrendous situation. She gets these things with her eyes. It's when she's been in the dogs, like the dog's on the sofa. So we're like, what do you do then? Are you good?

Are you going to get rid of the dogs? Send the dog back to Romania. There's other people in the UK. Maybe and cook them. Oh, man. Yeah, it's a lot. You can't deport a dog. I don't know how you do it.

I'm sure you can find someone else in the UK to take your dog. Is that what I'm off this podcast, is it? She's a great. If the dog's making your child ill, the dog's got to be moved. I know. They're not sure. I thought I was allergic to my cats at one point. We don't know, yeah.

We don't know. We don't know what she's allergic to. Maybe she's just allergic to my neurosis. Well, that's the thing. Because I suppose with the OCD, one just assumes it's sort of cleaning or stuff being lined up in neat because that's a part of it. But, like, in a way, is it more challenging that it's your own mental torture

where most people wouldn't even notice you're doing it. But you, and then you're exhausted because you've just spent 20 minutes doing that. arriving somewhere. I don't know, man. I have spent quite a lot of my life trying to kind of get over it. I mean, these things are just sort of baked in your brain, but it's like a lot of wellness stuff helps,

you know, like breathing and meditating and just trying to contextualize stuff as not all in your control. It's the same kind of approach I'm trying to have to stand up. I'm trying to channel a bit more of a Rob Beckett thing where you walk on stage and you just sort of enjoy the fact that you're...

Sorry, I'm like, not calling you an amazing stand-up right now. You're also an amazing stand-up. It's just the level of chill that he seemed to have before going on. It started me forever. Do you know what I mean? You were both very nervous. Yeah, you sit before that and you write out what you're going to say. And I'm like, yeah, that's something.

And then would you just make one funny word and just be hilarious. Yeah, but that's because I couldn't write. If I could write, I would have written a bit more. It makes it a lot easier when you have got other options. My limited skill set really helped me out because there wasn't other stuff I could do. Because I had auditioned for PLEBS. I didn't get that. Oh, and it's really, really held you back.

I'm so sad to hear that. But yeah, man, I don't know. It's just in your mind, you know, and you can't really get rid of it. And every day your brain's going, oh, you need to tap that 16 times and everything will go well. And you always do it. And then it goes, no, you've got to do it 32 times. It's just lying to yourself to try and cope with being alive. And honestly, I don't even have it that bad.

But you can really tell if I'm a bit nervous or anxious because I will be sort of tapping a table 64 times. And I nearly got thrown out of a venue in Edinburgh once for like acting suspiciously. Oh, really? Yeah. because like I was hanging around and I was like I was tapping a fire exit 16 times and the guy came over and does it just come into your head I've got to tap this 16 times yeah you just don't you don't you don't feel right until you do it just talking about it make you want to do it more or yeah it's one of those things yeah it's like uh you remind yourself

the more you feed the beast the bigger the beast gets essentially which is what yeah I not with you because you because I've got on my night terrors and my heart goes out to people who have it you know worse than I have some people can't leave their house man so I'm just very fortunate that it's sort of it's contained a bit also it's so narcissistic mine is literally connected to my professional anxiety some people have OCD and they're like if I don't do this my parents are going to die in a plane crash and mine is like if I don't do this I'm gonna die a pear-shaped you know what I mean it's ridiculous I'm gonna have a slightly bad gig yeah yeah we always end

with the same question because we're getting turfed out this room oh it's been an excellent it's been great thanks been really good also I want to say don't be so hard on The first year having a kid is horrendous. And anything that you've got, whether it is anxiety or you get depressed or you have OCD or whatever, or you've got a bit of a drink problem or you gamble, all of that will go up tenfold because you're under so much duress. And I know, I'm sleeping fine, but it's still, you know, you're not, you're on a floor of the, you know. The floor of the Glen Eagles bathroom. You're under four duvets on a bathroom.

I've seen that review on TripAdvisor. But yeah, you're doing brilliantly. And you sound like you're both dealing amazingly with what is quite a challenge. in set of circumstances. She's got great taste in podcasts. And you've always been an amazing talent. You're your own worst enemy. You know that already.

Thank you very much. I appreciate that. Last question. Always the same. I don't know if you've ever listened to this bit of the podcast. But what one thing about your partner? Very rarely do we think the partner is actually going to be listening. She definitely will be.

Yeah. Is the reason where you go, she's incredible. That's why, you know, I'm so lucky to be with her. She's the best parent ever. And what thing does she do as a parent that slightly gritty grind your gears but you haven't brought it up but this should be a good chance to let her know. I thought you told me about last year. Good luck. The answers are fairly obvious to be honest. I think what amazes me about Gigi is the amount

that she's been through and the amount that she's had to suffer. Like I have never seen it once even slightly impact the way that she is with Simi. Like when she was going through like private turmoil. Simi would would never have been a able to tell and I think that she's taken every single bit of her energy and put it into our child and that as that's the most incredible sacrifice that I've ever witnessed and their relationship is the most beautiful thing I've ever witnessed the one thing that's slightly grinds my gaze is she makes me sleep on the floor of the bathroom and the other but that's obvious all the staff are going to think of an absolute mental case now so

but honestly it's it's yeah it's been the best and the worst you are the the injuries joke of the underling common room, aren't you? Shout out to the underlings. The staff were incredible there with Simby, and there was a magical place. Tom, it's been amazing. Thanks, right. Thank you so much.

Whatever people say I am, I am. You can write. Nearly. But yeah, get your tickets now. Cheers, Tom. Getting ready for a game means being ready for anything. Like packing a spare stick. I like to be prepared.

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