Parenting Hell with Rob Beckett and Josh Widdicombe - S12 EP25: Who don't you like?

Episode Date: March 30, 2026

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This episode is presented by Adobe Acrobat Studio. Josh, as a new parent, you get loads of information just chuffed at you. Oh, mate, it never ends, does it? And it's so difficult to know what's helpful, what's important, what I should be ignoring, what I should hold dear to my heart. It just goes on and on. Well, imagine that's your job dealing with tons of data and information. No, no, no, no, no, thank you.
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Starting point is 00:00:46 Do that with Acrobat. Learn more and try it out on adobe.com. Hello, you're listening to Parents in Hell, Winn. There we go. I like that. I sound like he said, Dosh Widdickham, which he said, is a great headline if you've spent a lot of money on something. Too bloody right. If you bought a fancy new car.
Starting point is 00:01:29 If I got a new huge contract at the BBC. Yes, Dosh Whitaker as you walk out of a cigar. The new host of Top Gear. Hi Robin Dosh. A long time listener after moving back to the UK from Australia a few weeks before the first lockdown. Oh. With a then 10-month-old. This is my three-year-old daughter Morgan and my almost 7-year-old son Ellis,
Starting point is 00:01:54 saying your names. We currently live in North Wales. Why do you go from Australia to North Wales? Well, isn't North Wales a place? Is there a North Wales in Australia? Well, I don't know. There's New South Wales. Her son's called Ellis, so maybe she's Welsh.
Starting point is 00:02:08 Bit Welsh. But Ellis and I are from Australia. Oh no, I might... Do you know what? I could have just read on and all our questions would be answered. That's classic us, isn't it? Yeah. Yep, yep, yep. Just fucking listen for a bit, boys. Exactly. It's not all about us. We currently live in North Wales, but Ellis and I are from Australia.
Starting point is 00:02:23 and my husband Lloyd and Morgan who's the three-old daughter are from North Wales because she was born when they got here. So the mum and the older child are Australian and the dad and the younger child are Welsh. We're waiting for Morgan's
Starting point is 00:02:39 turn four before attempting a 24-hour flight to Australia for a visit. Thank you for keeping me sane. Stay sex and relatable. Cheers, Sarah. Jaze. Cheers. Cheers, cheers, Sarah. Did you sign off your emails with Jiz?
Starting point is 00:02:52 Josh, I'm worried about this episode. You're in a weird space. I'm in a hugely weird space. Do you know what? I'm not in a weird space. You are, you've had a mental week. There's no fucking anchor here. We need Claude McAleleley of podcasting to come in and steady the ship.
Starting point is 00:03:07 Or Claude, the guy from The Apprentice. Or Claude. All the other ones. Claude Littner. Claude Littner. And then it was Karen Brady. Nick Heuer. Nick Huer.
Starting point is 00:03:16 Margaret Mountford. Who cares now. No one's fucking watching it anymore. Alan Sugar's joined TikTok. Has he indeed. And he's all over the gaffing. He's on a webcam looking the wrong way. He was always big on tech, wasn't he, Alan Sugar?
Starting point is 00:03:32 Do you want to know something about Alan Sugar? Yeah. He was the guy that was made the Skyboxes or the dishes or whatever it was that Sky used. And then as the Tottenham owner, he had the deciding vote in whether the Premier League went to Sky. and then he made loads of money from selling all the sky stuff. Oh, that's clever. Alan Sugar. Do you reckon that's difficult being called Alan Sugar if you're having tea?
Starting point is 00:03:58 Alan, sugar? I don't think so, no. What do you mean? It must be frustrating. Because he's not going to go, sorry, why are you saying my name with a question? There's two Alan's in the room. Alan Carr, Alan Sugar. Yeah, they've been in the room together.
Starting point is 00:04:11 Alan, Sugar. What's happening in that room then? What's happening in that room? Yeah, okay. Alan Carr, Alan Sugar sat down. I'm making tea. Alan, sugar. Yeah, okay. Why are you saying Alan Sugar? Because I'm making tea.
Starting point is 00:04:27 Yeah, but wouldn't you say which one if they're both sat down? Well, no, but you don't know. I might be just saying Alan Sugar. You might be. I might have been Alan Carr. Alan Sugar. Alan Sugar. And then Alan Sugar would go yes. And then...
Starting point is 00:04:40 No, not you. Alan Sugar. And then you go, no, thank you. Who would Alan? Alan Carr. Well, Alan. Alan would, yeah. So, why are you so weird? I've just had a no buffer date.
Starting point is 00:04:57 Oh, yeah. I've just had a bit of a no... I've just had a bit of a no buffer week. Okay. It's been busy. Take me through your non-buffer week. Non-buffer week. Monday buffer.
Starting point is 00:05:07 They're Monday up to London and I did two episodes of celebrities to go dating. And I was in a really weird headspace. When all those celebs stop dating? They just don't stop dating. They don't. They're always... I think since I've known you, you've always... At least once a week
Starting point is 00:05:21 I've been doing an episode of Celebrity. Well, there's so much time to feel. It's 20 episodes a series. Is it? How have I never watched one? No. Fucking how.
Starting point is 00:05:32 How have I not watched one? Mate, I have done... So, have we seen... There's been about a 15 series. Have you done all of them? Sorry, no disrespect. The original voiceover. Yeah, I was original.
Starting point is 00:05:43 But it's been so many. We even did one in lockdown when they're at to socially distance. Have you ever seen people? Wicks going for a picnic's two meters apart. Well, I have actually, but that's a different story. I think it's a 613 series, but I think there might be more than that now. So I think there's been 15, if you include the lockdown one and this new one.
Starting point is 00:06:02 So it's 15, let's do the maths here, right? So it's 15. And was it always 20 apps or has it gone up? It went up to 25 for a bit and I think we all agreed, five too many. Five too many. Exactly. So 15 series times 20 episodes. That's 300 episodes.
Starting point is 00:06:16 And there was about five series of an extra five, so five times 25. So say 325 episodes, yeah? Yeah, I've done of that. Now, it takes two and a half hours to film, record each episode. Do you have to do any prep? No. I go in and read it.
Starting point is 00:06:32 But I'm in a V-O booth alone. Yeah. So 325 episodes times 2.5. But you can talk to the guys out there, can't you? It's 800, 812 hours. I've been in a V-O-Boof alone. Oh, my God. So divide that by 24.
Starting point is 00:06:50 33 days. 33 days. Of my life. And you know what? I've loved it. Me shouting about how tiny my dick is, my assholes stinks. You what? Stuff like that.
Starting point is 00:06:59 I'm quite crude on it. Yeah, I say mental stuff. Wow. Sometimes when, you know, Lee Ryan's having tacos. So who's, can you tell me who's on this series? You probably can't, can you? I think I can. Can you?
Starting point is 00:07:09 I think it's been announced. Let me have a look. Sorry, is this TV? Let's just do an episode about my TV output. Why not? Well, we are going to talk about your special. My week, yeah. Seps good dating, they have announced them.
Starting point is 00:07:21 We have got Killeenolan, James Haskell. Yeah. David Potts from my Beefa Weekend, I'm all for a reality guy. Professor Green. That's a good booking. Gabby Allen from Love Island. I was thinking, when you said Gabby, I thought, Logan or Roslin, this is huge. No, Gabby Allen from Love Island.
Starting point is 00:07:41 Gabby Logan. James Haskell and then P.K. Humble. Sorry, come on now. Come on. Lucinda Light from Married at first sight Who the fuck is P.K. Humble? He used to do the dogs. Big a humble.
Starting point is 00:07:55 What? Big a humble. What the fuck is going on? He's from Ballers League. What's Ballers League? He's an online personality, Josh. Okay. Yeah, that's it, I think.
Starting point is 00:08:06 Okay, cool. I don't know who else. Before we go on, you have got a special out. Yeah, so my stand-up show. Fine. Giraffe. No, it is special, and yours is special too. put it down.
Starting point is 00:08:19 I've seen yours and it's not special. You haven't seen mine. Yeah, I got it sent to me to check whether it was special. What's wrong with me? I got your agent. I said, could you just forward Rob's... Just to double-check it's special. Stand-up special and he said, it's not particularly special.
Starting point is 00:08:34 It's 90 minutes long, Josh. Why? Because that's how long the show was. Including ads? No, I think that's on top. But it's a two-sitter. You can watch half one night and watch the second half the next night. No one's getting beyond 40 minutes.
Starting point is 00:08:47 Is there audio? stuff. I talk to the crowd, yeah. So it's London Palladium show of Giraff that was recorded in one night and yeah, so it's going out on Friday the 3rd of April. Good Friday is on Sky 1 9pm. That's good Friday. Good special and good Friday.
Starting point is 00:09:01 Great, special Friday, special show. Good Friday special. So yeah, please watch that. Okay. Anyway, back to my week. I was doing stuff to go dating. Yeah. Then two episodes of that. Then my mum and dad come around and then we watched tell you with the kids and was having with the kids
Starting point is 00:09:17 and then Tuesday I was filming in Robin Ramesh, then it was Parents' Evening and then I had to go straight from Parents' Evening to the RTS Awards. The actual Parents' Evening. It was actually, not his TV show, Parents' Evening. It was at my actual children's parents' evening. So I had to go back there and then I went to the RTS Awards. Did you win an RTS Award?
Starting point is 00:09:34 I wanted, well, me and Rommish won an RTS Award. Oh, congratulations. Thank you very much. So did that, that was last night. Then this morning, I had to try and load of clothes for a TV thing from 8 a.m. I was up half, six kids left. And then I did that, and then I went straight. Who hosted the RTS Awards?
Starting point is 00:09:49 Tom Allen, very good. Oh, nice. He's so fun in Titanic. I don't know if I mentioned it. I need to see that, but I'm not going to, because I live in Exeter. So then they left at 10 o'clock, but then I had to be on the half-10 train from Alpinton, got to Orminton, no parking spaces. So then out to drive to Petswood, parked at Petswood, add 10 minutes. So I then went and got a sandwich because I need something to eat and a coffee.
Starting point is 00:10:08 And I said to him, sandwich for breakfast. Well, by this point, it was half ten. This morning? Yeah, that was this morning. So I haven't eaten the sandwich. I ate the sandwich at lunch when I got here. I'm talking too fast. breathe.
Starting point is 00:10:18 Don't breathe. Keep going. Keep going. I said to him, I've got to get the train in 10 minutes. Is that enough time to make this sandwich? As long as you run, what do you mean?
Starting point is 00:10:25 Well, I won't have the sandwich. She went, the bridge is shut. You've got to go round the other side. Oh my word. So then I had to run. What do you mean the bridges shut? So how else are you going to get across? You need to run because you're going across the tracks.
Starting point is 00:10:37 Yeah, I've got to find another bridge or tunnel. What? So I had to walk down the road to find the tunnel. But you still got your sandwich. I got my sandwich because the sandwich wasn't the problem. The problem was trying to get to the other side of the train station. Anyway, got on the train, got here. I've just eaten a sandwich.
Starting point is 00:10:49 Now I'm talking to you, and I'm a little bit all over the place. Well, it could be worse. Go on. So, my son was off school for two days. Okay. Temps. Tempatures. Right.
Starting point is 00:11:00 What was wrong with him? Just on. Just on. Just on. Just on. I went to my parents on Sunday with him, and he was just, it was like 2 p.m. and he was just yawning and going, I'm really tired. And you're like, okay, there's something up here.
Starting point is 00:11:15 Yeah. And then we got in the car and he just out, out like a light. You can't send him to school with a temp. I can't send him to school with a temp because it was under control with medication. Medication, but then it would fly back up. Carpull. The double? The double.
Starting point is 00:11:30 He's got to double them up. You've got to go back to back. Those companies, they're rivals. They don't realize they're working together the whole time. They're a duo. Yeah, well, because you know, you can have a little bit of neurofilm in the cowpoles. Exactly. Because you can't go double cap.
Starting point is 00:11:46 They think they're fighting it out. They're not. Guys, your sales should be identical because we're back to back in them. And he was off for two days? He was off for two days. Yesterday, my daughter had a concert, a spring concert. And then he was like freaking out because we were going to the concert and leaving him and we're like, well, we can't not go to the concert. And you couldn't take him because he's been off.
Starting point is 00:12:09 Couldn't take him. He didn't want to go. Have you got childcare down there now? Yeah. Is she there every day? No, she's at Alton Towers today. Is she what keeping? She's cleaning oblivion.
Starting point is 00:12:20 Well, she didn't at Orton Towers. Just family trip out. Yeah. Oh, lovely. Take her family to Alton Towers. Do you like rides? You don't? I fucking ate them.
Starting point is 00:12:27 Do I like rides? No, I can do them, right? Because you're just strapped in and you just do it, and you think about something else. So, have you been to Blackpool Pleasure Beach? Yes. You know the one that fires you straight up into the air? It used to be called the PlayStation ride. I imagine it's not anymore.
Starting point is 00:12:45 No. I remember doing that when I was at uni and the big one, and the way I got through it is, it feels like it's not helping my reputation as a cool dude. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I'd run through in my head the 11 players that played for Plymouth in the 1996 player final when they'd be Darlington 1-0.
Starting point is 00:13:03 All right, okay. Go on then, give it to us. Do you want that? Yeah. More than anything you've ever said out loud. In goal, Steve Cherry. That's so funny, isn't it? What's that funny?
Starting point is 00:13:14 Because he's called Steve Chal. I suppose. Steve Cherry. Paul Williams left back. Yeah. Centerbacks. Chris Curran, Richard Logan and Mickey Heathcoat.
Starting point is 00:13:24 Nice. Right back. Mark Patterson. Ronnie Moge. Pardon? Ronnie Moge. Is you French? No, he wasn't.
Starting point is 00:13:34 I think he's from East London. Sorry, I keep coughing. He scored the winning goal. Ronnie Mojay, Chris Ledbetter, Martin Barlow up front, Mickey Evans, Adrian, Little John. And by the end of that, I'm off the roller coaster.
Starting point is 00:13:44 You're mid-playstation. So if you are worried on a roller coaster, think of something you might be able to vaguely recall. So if anyone ever sees you at the start of a roller coaster, they can see, go, they're queuing up at Disney, wherever they are or at Chessington. I'm thinking of the England World Cup 1966. Josh is strapped into mandrill mayhem and they think he's thinking about Steve Cherry. If you ever see Josh on a roller coaster, just shout to Steve Cherry. I've already got him. I'm struggling with the right back.
Starting point is 00:14:20 Patterson. World champion. But are you planning on taking your kids to theme parks? You've done Lego Land and hated it, didn't you? Yeah, but I think they'd probably enjoy it more now. There's no point until my son's tall enough. Because then you're just creating a situation where your daughter can go on something to your son can't go on others. There's a new Frozen World opening at Disneyland Paris, she might like.
Starting point is 00:14:40 I think we will. Dip your toe in Paris and work backwards. Exactly. I think... We're going to Europa Park Is that the one that's themed around the Europa League? Just different winners of the Europa League. Well, you start at the Conference League park
Starting point is 00:14:56 because it's smaller rides. No, it's in Germany and it's like the biggest theme park in Europe everyone sort of goes to. So we're going to go there. So do you like the rides? I don't... I quite like fast ones now.
Starting point is 00:15:10 I hate the drops. But I love... Yeah, I like going fast. I don't like going. That drop, your stomachs. Did you like oblivion at Orton Towers? I've not done. I didn't do that.
Starting point is 00:15:20 Would you do oblivion? I don't think so. I did a gig in Dubai a few years ago. We went to the theme park. It was so weird because it was... Motion gate. I don't know. Half it was inside.
Starting point is 00:15:33 Half it was outside. And no one was there. Yeah, I've been to that one. The Smurf ride. What the fuck is this? I mean, God, no. You think that with a lot of Dubai, what financially is happening here.
Starting point is 00:15:44 But like... Fuck all of it. the moment. Finally, I couldn't happen to a nice a bunch.
Starting point is 00:15:48 But, uh, but, we got there and then there's no queues so we could go on all the rides loads of times.
Starting point is 00:15:56 It was fucking heartbreaking, Rob. So who did you go with? Just the classic trio. Go on.
Starting point is 00:16:02 Lloyd Langford Ed Gamble and Maisie Adam. We, but we hadn't gone especially. We're all doing a gig. You lost your
Starting point is 00:16:08 Steve Cherry to Maisie Adam. You at a concert, spring concert. Oh yeah, yeah. that was lovely they did some pop hits that was fun yeah they did mamma mia it's such a fucking banger you're like abba are so good that song has got so many different bits and when you hear it done you're like fuck me they did sky full of stars i was like abra so much better than cold play and i say this
Starting point is 00:16:37 as a cold play apologist you love a bit of cold play i love the first two albums and half of the third one you do look like the kind of man that knows the drummer's name will champion thank you Do you want the rest of the band While we're there He sounds like a guitarist Johnny Buckland Johnny Buckland yeah Obviously the singer Yeah Chris Martin
Starting point is 00:16:57 I don't know the bass player actually Guy something He's called Guy something But anyway This seemed like sweet guys cold play I've got nothing against them Yeah no I like good guys
Starting point is 00:17:07 Yeah So we went to the school Oh yeah Concert Yeah That's fine That was fun Really fun
Starting point is 00:17:15 But I didn't And brought a snack So afterwards there was tea and cake, I stole some cake for my children from the adult's cake section. Right, that's okay. People kept calling me on it while I was carrying cake in a napkin. What, you wanted to give your daughter a snack after school? Do you always turn out of a snack after school? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:33 Really? Yeah. Every time. And if you don't have one, there's trouble. Yeah, which is insane because we live 50 yards from the school. But we've got ourselves. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So what kind of snacks you're dealing with here?
Starting point is 00:17:44 Well, they don't show me in the best light. I'd love to say cucumber You can't turn up a whole cucumber Into school So what kind of snacks you're doing? Yeah Your pond bears Yeah
Starting point is 00:17:56 Your mini chuds Yeah Throw the ball in that area And you hit something Okay Chocolate, chocolate Chocolate bar Maybe
Starting point is 00:18:03 They've got quite into these Madlins that you get from Do you know what a Madeline is? Yeah Those little cake Like a small sponge cake Yeah You've got your kids are really white
Starting point is 00:18:13 Aren't they? White? Yeah What do you mean? Just proper Cone County's white beige food. What do you mean? Oh, sorry. I forgot you're serving jerk chicken to your kids when you meet them with the game. I turn out of the cabal of samoses.
Starting point is 00:18:25 I'm not. It's very, very beige kind of. You've got one of those huge pitella things outside the school. Salt and vinegar crisps? That's beige. No. That's spicy. Oh, right, yeah, they'll have salt and vinegar crisps. They'll have salt vinegar crisps.
Starting point is 00:18:41 Okay, okay, I'm just saying. But it's saying Madeline, Pombare, mini-cheds. Yeah. It's one very... Yeah, I'm sorry they're not having foe like your children, but... Guys, I've got some hoppers. I'm quite into Sri Lankan stuff at the moment. Do you know what Michael told me?
Starting point is 00:18:59 Michael, the producer? Yeah. Go on. Michael went down a wormhole on what? Is it called Reddit, Michael? Yeah. A Reddit wormhole on what? I read a full string about how we hate each other.
Starting point is 00:19:11 Me and you hate each other. Who reckons we hate each other? everyone that Michael Michael's like I went down and Reddit Wormhole and they were talking about how much you two hate each other Basically they think the show's coming to an end soon They think it's coming to an end They're predicting that it will be over by the summer
Starting point is 00:19:26 Based on how you guys speak to each other Honestly Do we sound like we don't like each other? Do you like me? I love you too I thought I enjoyed it Yeah It's a bit also as well
Starting point is 00:19:45 You know I don't want to go into the numbers too heavy, but for me to quit this, you'd have to spit in my face at least three times of a record. Just from an economics point. Honestly, if you're on that Reddit thread, I can tell you 10 TV shows that haven't been stopped by people hating each other.
Starting point is 00:20:05 No, there's no hatred at all. No. I quite enjoy it. Yeah, I do. But there we go. Oh, this is interesting. I got sent. Sunspell.
Starting point is 00:20:17 sent me a couple of t-shirts. Oh, yeah, I got some pants. Saying thanks for talking about the... I've been slagging their pants off. That's how long? There's no such thing as bad PR. No, no. So they sent you the pants?
Starting point is 00:20:28 They sent me the t-shirts. I love the clothes. Was it through the same person? Faye? Yeah. Yeah, maybe. I think she was speaking to them about something else. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:36 So they sent me some tops, but I love the clothes. I just can't get involved in the pants. Yeah, I love the clothes on the pants. Too heavy knit for me. I love the clothes and the pants. So what else is it saying on Reddit? They all love all the internet ones love Josh more than me. That's what I've noticed.
Starting point is 00:20:48 I won't go that far. Oh, I'm going to go that far. Can you phone Lou now? Yeah. Put her on speakerphone and say we can't go on holiday because I think it's looking bad with the Reddit community. Right, I see what she says about that.
Starting point is 00:21:04 Well, I do my belt back up. Yeah, I can ask you. I do that. Oh, no. I'll ask her out of the kids telling me. I can talk about parenting as well. What's she doing? I think she's dropping the dogs off at the kennels because we're going on holiday to
Starting point is 00:21:25 Sorry, not Kenil's, the hotel. So, anyway. So my son was ill. Yeah. My daughter did a concert. Sorry, you're talking about your kids? Are you sure? Because according to Reddit, we don't.
Starting point is 00:21:42 You're fucking losers. I don't want to talk too heavily on this, because I'm in a bit of a mental headspace. But these people that go online to discuss us, how little have they got on in their life? What would have to happen to my workload for me to You know what I'm going to do? I'm going to join a forum to slag off two people I haven't met
Starting point is 00:22:02 because they may be arguing a bit more than I'd like them to be. Gap me? Anyway, yeah, so... Hurry up your . Is that what you want, Reddit? You want, the truth? So, parenting-wise. Yes, parenting-wise.
Starting point is 00:22:27 It's the last week of the term. Yes, Easter break. So we're having a little bit of break. After this so we can see our children over Easter. And Michael's might have gone on a holiday. Is he? Yeah, he is. Where you going, Michael?
Starting point is 00:22:40 I'm off to New York. New York? Fucking hell. Yeah, all right. Changed the record. Wait till Reddit here about that. Too, right. That's a single, not a single, but a childless man going to New York in his spare time after working hard.
Starting point is 00:22:52 Should be ashamed of your privilege, mate. I'm coming from the Isle of Wight to London with nothing, not a pen in your pocket, and then building yourself to a point where you can go on holiday. You should be ashamed of yourself. You don't fucking work. So cancel that holiday and fucking get your life in perspective. It's good that I don't get affected by online comments. That's why I don't read them.
Starting point is 00:23:12 Yeah. I don't read anything online. I mean, it's worse when people then say stuff to you. Because there is a potential you go back and go. Because they presume you have read it, read it. As Lou got in touch. No, she hasn't run back, actually. Anyway, so while my daughter was in a concert.
Starting point is 00:23:27 Yeah. So one of my daughters plays a guitar. Yeah. There was a guitar ensemble at this concert. We saw about a year ago playing the guitar. songbird by Liam Gallagher Oasis, right?
Starting point is 00:23:36 Yeah. And it's really good, fine. I've not seen her, she does lessons at school, I've not seen her play the guitar at home once. Yeah. Saw it last week. Did a Taylor Swift song.
Starting point is 00:23:46 She's like Johnny Marr? Really good. Really good. Wow. But like, much better, like, remarkably better. And I was like, because I thought,
Starting point is 00:23:53 she goes to lessons. She never practices. I assume she'd just be at the same level for the next five years. It's an hour a week. It's an hour a week. And then you just do that. It's fine.
Starting point is 00:24:03 It's fine. It's a bit of fun. Express. She's got really really good. I've never had a practice, but I'm just sort of letting her get on with it. What did she sing? No, she played. Oh, what did she play, sorry? Elizabeth Taylor. Oh, yeah. She played along to that. That one. And then my other daughter,
Starting point is 00:24:15 I love that song. She sung Elizabeth Taylor. A whole new world. But they made her sing it with an American accent. Oh, wow. Yeah. She was like. Was it a solo? She did it with another girl, but they did solo part. They sort of did a verse each and then did a chorus together at the end. So they were doing that.
Starting point is 00:24:33 They do like a grandparent, they do grandparents' concerts, which is quite nice. I love the concerts. Yeah, it's great, isn't it? I love the concerts. I'd cry a lot, though. Do you? Yeah, I'd try and not cry.
Starting point is 00:24:45 They were really going for it, and they loved it. I think my daughter, who's eight, is still not got that feeling that maybe if you were 10 or 11, they're a bit more self-conscious at the concert. My daughter was, and her class were really going for it during Mamma Mia and during Sky Full of Stars and Firework. I mean, it was some mega hits.
Starting point is 00:25:07 She wasn't going for it fully then? No, she was really going for it. But what I mean is the kids that were a bit older, you got the feeling they weren't as comfortable with all the actions and stuff that was happening. Because, do you know what I mean? And you're like, oh God, yeah, this is when you get to the age where... You get self-conscious.
Starting point is 00:25:24 You get self-conscious. Well, I find there's two... It's that a weird thing. One, they're a bit too shy to do it. And then all of a sudden, overnight, they're like, and like giving it hardcore and then they're getting back but you don't want to let them feel embarrassed
Starting point is 00:25:35 with like that 13 because I see kids at about 13 where they're like they get treated like adults and like no no let them be kids yeah totally I feel like we're a bit you've still obviously got a slightly younger one but I feel like with an 8 year old and the 10 year old
Starting point is 00:25:47 I'm in a little bit of the eye of the storm where it's calm right down we've had the first wave of the tornado we're in the eye of somewhere it's obviously busy but quite easy really because they make their own breakfast they get their own bags packed and stuff like that.
Starting point is 00:26:02 They can run their own baths and all that kind of thing. And then it will be a bit of a busier second storm when the teenage year is here. So I'm just enjoying this moment. And going back to your question, because you did interrupt me, ready? I like holidays with rides because sometimes I feel like if I go on a beach holiday, I sit around the pool or on the beach and the kids are in the pool or the sea together playing. Sometimes I make friends or they'll go,
Starting point is 00:26:28 can we go to the kids club for an hour? because there's an event on and I don't feel like I feel like I'm on holiday I'm on holiday near them whereas when you go to rides in a theme park you're doing it with them like mates Well can I recommend my favourite type of holiday Black and Shine
Starting point is 00:26:42 Skying Skiing my friend and yours Your favourite So is that gone into your favourite type of holiday I just feel myself when I'm on the slopes When I'm chopping up the powder When I'm cutting down the alps Or the dolomites
Starting point is 00:26:57 I just feel like at one with nature. Yeah. I spoke to you for an hour about this, but the first 40 minutes you hated it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I still don't win it so you do like skiing. I can't wait for next year.
Starting point is 00:27:11 Have you booked? Yeah. Yeah. Too bloody right we have. And you're looking forward to that. I can't wait. Really? That'll be me.
Starting point is 00:27:19 Is that you? Yeah. Well, are you going to... There'll be people who go, was at him. But he went so fast, we couldn't see. Are you going to go to the same place? Yeah. And are you going to get the bus to the bigger slopes now,
Starting point is 00:27:29 or are you going to stay on the training one? I'd happily just go down that slope all the time. I don't think that's a ski holiday. No. Well, there is this feeling. I remember having a discussion with Rod Gilbert. We were talking about, I was much earlier days. And I was on tour, one of my first tours.
Starting point is 00:27:45 Yeah. And he was like, how are you finding the gigs? And I was like, to be honest, at that stage, I was like, I'm not that nervous. And he was like, ah, you've got used to the rooms. You need to play bigger rooms. Oh, yeah. you've got used to this
Starting point is 00:27:59 and I haven't got to that point with a ski slope do you know what I mean but there will come a point there comes a point with everything where when you get too comfy it becomes boring and that's when you start snapping at each other and Reddit kicks in
Starting point is 00:28:11 and that's when the show ends that's when the show ends well it's not but it can go on for years after that I'm really enjoying it and more people are listening I don't want to throw stats in people's faces I don't want to undermine the Reddit guys
Starting point is 00:28:24 but it's kind of the best it's ever been Yeah, exactly. Which is frustrating for us because we hate each other. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, of course. But we... Good news, bad news, Rob. Good news, the viewers are up, listeners are up,
Starting point is 00:28:40 but it just means you can have to work with that for longer. Come see, come, sir. Come see, come, sir. How is Rob and Rome going? Best has ever been. Best has ever been. The most we've ever hate each other. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:28:56 I don't hate anyone. especially anyone that earns me money. What's that? Not only when you work with, but you do, I know, I can listen to me. Who do I hate? Who do you hate? Okay. We could bleep them. Could I give a genre of person?
Starting point is 00:29:10 Yeah, but don't say a race. I'll take genre, but there's... Overly interfering TV producers. Yes, correct. Huge genre. Yeah. That's why I said that when I got the award last night, it was for entertainment performance
Starting point is 00:29:28 as opposed to the show. I've got I've had that exact award. Have you? The RTS? Yeah. For the last leg? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:35 I'd share it as well. I said, it's great when you win this one because it's for performance which means I don't have to thank any producers. It was all us. And then I just held the silence for ages and then I went,
Starting point is 00:29:47 I actually thank very much Bill. But Bill is brilliant. Bill Ryan, by a brilliant producer. No, too late. No, I did say that. But Bill Ryan's an amazing producer. Yeah, too late.
Starting point is 00:29:55 TV produced, is that anything though, isn't it? He's related to one of the Claxons. Yes, that's his brother. This episode is brought to you by Experian, the UK's most trusted credit score. Josh, everyone's got those moments in parenthood where you feel like you finally made it. Oh, nothing beats the feeling, Rob,
Starting point is 00:30:13 of when you finally make one of those big financial decisions that you've always dreamt of. Can I go? Yeah. I bought a brand new car with a roof box. Yes, because you are middle-aged. And do you know what I had to do? the door of the car and stand on that little bottom bit so I could reach the top of the roof box.
Starting point is 00:30:31 Of course you did Rob. And I bought that because I was a parent and I was going to go camping. And did you? Once. There we go. Hated it. Yeah. Who knew the wind was going to be a problem?
Starting point is 00:30:40 Who knew the wind was going to be a problem? But I felt like a real grown-up buying an adult SUV car that had space in the boot for a buggy, a double buggy at that. The first time I got on the property ladder. Yeah. And we got a mortgage on a small house. First-time buyer. First-time buyer. and then we moved into that house
Starting point is 00:30:58 from a furnished property that was a rental and we realised we didn't have any furniture and you bought a lovely massive shell and you were a little snow but you're so happy at that point and you have pizza order of pizza and sit on the floor
Starting point is 00:31:13 trying to get the telework tele going not even on a bracket oh mate that's fun so much possibilities one of the best moments of moving house we bought a house and then we moved in the same situation I was trying to get the full Well, football on the telly, because there was a fun Sunday game on at about 4 o'clock.
Starting point is 00:31:29 And I've done it, and finally the game come on. And as a game come on, the doorbell rang, and then the pizza roll had arrived at that moment. And I sat down on my camping chair that I was using for the second time. And I thought, this is life. Yeah, that felt good. A car with a roof box, and then owning my own house. And the first step in all those big financial moments is the Experian credit score. Correct.
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Starting point is 00:32:16 No, we're not. The school year. All right. Which is how I work. Okay. I still work in school years. Okay. So halfway through the school.
Starting point is 00:32:24 I've always worked in school. This is the problem with my... Stop bending to run. read it by trying to make the year about school so you're a parent. But this is what happened, right? So school years, up to 18. Yeah. Then I went to uni, so you're still working on school years.
Starting point is 00:32:37 Yeah. And then I worked for one year at Waterstones, and then I worked for one... So don't skim over that. Waterstones is just normal year. But I worked September to September. Because I started when I left uni, and then I worked for a year, so I was still working in a school year situation.
Starting point is 00:32:53 Okay. I'll give you that on a technicality, but you just worked in a normal job for a year. Then I started doing comedy, right? Yeah. A few years later. So I had a few years of normal years. I started doing comedy. And suddenly people are talking about Edinburgh, which is the end of the year apparently in August. So you're back on to fucking school years again. No, no. You're really pushing this.
Starting point is 00:33:16 So we are over halfway through the year. Right. Okay, so you want me to agree that you've just been living school years since... Yeah, all my life. Right, okay. Apart from the You're at Waterstones, your whole comedy career. No, no, the early bits of your comedy career, when you're, you've got Edinburgh is your, you've got to get a show ready. Isn't that the beginning of the year? No, because you've got to have the show ready for Edinburgh. Yeah, so you're doing pre-season until the season kicks off in August.
Starting point is 00:33:40 Yeah, but then it's, this season finishes. The whole point of the school year is no one goes to school in August, and that's when you do most of your work. If it was a school year, you'd have August off. No, but the point is, it starts in September, like the school year. What starts in September? No, it doesn't. Everyone has a month off then. because I've worked hard or don't work do anything.
Starting point is 00:33:58 I didn't. That's why I'm bloody sat here. That's what I've got to where I am. While everyone else was sitting around in September. I was stamping over them to get to the fucking top. FHM stand-up hero. I was like, do you know what? I was in September.
Starting point is 00:34:18 So we're halfway through the year. So we're halfway through the year. It's just going too quickly for me. Yeah, but you've done a lot. When did you move out? Do a lot? I have been thinking this, Rob. Should we quit this?
Starting point is 00:34:32 I shouldn't say no. The writing's on the wall. If I said. Please don't. I've been thinking, I could just do this and not do anything else. Just podcast. But I don't want to do that. But there's part of me when I get in the car to, no disrespect, Nottingham on Saturday, which was lovely.
Starting point is 00:34:54 Someone said they were going to bring a baby. I said, okay, they didn't bring the baby. What's going on, though, for you at the moment? When did you move out, September? September, start of the school year. Of course. New start. Because that's who you are.
Starting point is 00:35:06 Of course you moved in September. Exactly. So between now and September, you have had, well, since September and now, you've had so much mental stuff going on it. You've moved cities. Done a tour. Done a tour, moved cities, done loads of the last leg. We've, in terrible timing, started recording this in person in London.
Starting point is 00:35:25 I know. Wild. So it's like you've had a lot of. Yeah. And then when the, I think, don't make any major decisions. Oh, no, I'm not going to do it. The tour ends in May. What feels difficult, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:40 Is you go, I'm going to, let me be honest. Yeah. I'm going to Birmingham to do an awards. I'm doing the Vision Express Awards in Birmingham. Okay. Yeah, okay. When's that? This Sunday.
Starting point is 00:35:58 This Sunday night? Yeah, I know. I know. It's not a party time, is it? Well, it is. Vision Express Awards. Look, Rob, full disclosure. In my last two shows, I've had two
Starting point is 00:36:10 separate routines about glasses. I'm very confident. I'm going to rip this to shreds. Does I say my really funny idea for a sitcom episode about glasses? No. I rode it in a pilot for something that we never made up doing. It was about my dad, a character
Starting point is 00:36:22 by my dad, who was sort of a bit like in it, bit up my dad a little bit. Yeah. I just say, simple at times, but well-meaning, right? And he was trying to fix his glasses arm. And as he was doing it, he was gluing it, but he got you super glue
Starting point is 00:36:36 and he got his fingers stuck on the arm and then his wife came in my mum and went to Dave you've got to go and do this you got to do that and he goes well no actually I should do this I do that and then was basically using his because he gesturing with the glass and it made you look intelligent
Starting point is 00:36:51 and then she was like alright then Dave you don't have to do it and then she walked up the room he just went oh so the whole episode was him walking around and he was basically getting all his own way and dominating oh that's really nice It's good little bit of a sitcom.
Starting point is 00:37:05 Good in Seinfeld. Yeah, great little bit. Curbian Fusiasm. So that's my, that's the only bit I've got on glasses. We do all this work, Rob. Yes, so you're being honest. And it takes us away from my family. Well, that's the problem, is to travel.
Starting point is 00:37:18 Is the travel? And you go, when I left this morning, my daughter was gutted. Yeah. She's still in school. She's still in school. When are you back then? You left this morning early? I'm back at 2 a.m. on Friday.
Starting point is 00:37:28 2 a.m. Okay. She'll be in bed. Because I've got Bex Hill tonight. Why is it funny when you say a plate? I've got Southend tomorrow. Beck's him tonight, Southend tomorrow. Last leg on Friday.
Starting point is 00:37:41 And then you're home Saturday. Yeah. No, Friday night. Are you working Saturday Sunday? I am. We're going to a farm on Saturday. Oh, nice. Our friends have got a farm.
Starting point is 00:37:50 Yeah. We're going to their house. Oh, their farm. Their farm. Their farm house. And then I've got Cheltenham in the evening. Okay. That's where that weekend suffers.
Starting point is 00:37:59 Then I come back. Yeah. But Cheltenham's actually quite near exit, so that's ideal. Yeah. ideal and then I come back and then Sunday so my daughter goes
Starting point is 00:38:08 to an art class I wonder what your take on this is they occasionally do a family day where all the family go and do the art together so we're doing that on the Sunday that's fun
Starting point is 00:38:19 I'd be into that that's a bit of me I'm quite nervy about that that's because you think you're good at art no I don't and you don't want to look like you're bad of it and you want something to say
Starting point is 00:38:29 well done Josh that's great no I don't it's not that actually it's the thought of being in a room with other parents. Oh, that's what's stressing you at? Yeah. But you're just focused on the art. I know, I'm looking forward to it. And then in the evening, I'm going to Birmingham for the Vision Express Awards.
Starting point is 00:38:44 Oh, fucking hell, mate. No wonder you're a little bit confused about workload? It's interesting. So you're doing this now? Are you gigging tonight? Yeah, Bexhill, Delaware Pavilion. So Bex Hill tonight, South End Tomorrow, Larseg, Friday, farming the day, Cheltenham, art class in the day.
Starting point is 00:39:00 Vision Express. Vision Express. Yeah. And then Monday? Take my car in for its MOT. Should we do some small business? Yeah. Here's small business.
Starting point is 00:39:10 Rob Beckett, new young comedian with the show Draft. It's going to be on Sky 1, 9 p.m. 3rd of April. Do you know what? They're right on Reddit. You hate me. He hates me. Right, here we go.
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Starting point is 00:41:56 Thank you so much. for everything you do. Stay Sex and Relatable from Freya. Thanks Freya. Good luck with it all. Right. Thank fuck. I don't have to see you again for a while. Oh, I love you. I like this. This is fun. Enjoy this. What a load of fucking shy. Don't go.
Starting point is 00:42:11 Don't go to Bexhill. Come back. What a fucking waste of my life. Thank God he's gone. Wanker. Wanker. Shuffing around his little fucking cup of drinking. It's a little... Anyone want to host this with me?
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