Parenting Hell with Rob Beckett and Josh Widdicombe - S12 EP25: Who don't you like?
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Hello, you're listening to Parents in Hell, Winn.
There we go.
I like that.
I sound like he said, Dosh Widdickham, which he said,
is a great headline if you've spent a lot of money on something.
Too bloody right. If you bought a fancy new car.
If I got a new huge contract at the BBC.
Yes, Dosh Whitaker as you walk out of a cigar.
The new host of Top Gear.
Hi Robin Dosh.
A long time listener after moving back to the UK from Australia a few weeks before the first lockdown.
Oh.
With a then 10-month-old.
This is my three-year-old daughter Morgan and my almost 7-year-old son Ellis,
saying your names. We currently live
in North Wales. Why do you go from
Australia to North Wales?
Well, isn't North Wales a place?
Is there a North Wales in Australia?
Well, I don't know.
There's New South Wales.
Her son's called Ellis, so maybe she's Welsh.
Bit Welsh. But Ellis and I are from
Australia. Oh no, I might...
Do you know what? I could have just read on and all our questions
would be answered. That's classic us, isn't it?
Yeah. Yep, yep, yep. Just fucking listen
for a bit, boys. Exactly. It's not all about us.
We currently live in North Wales, but Ellis
and I are from Australia.
and my husband Lloyd and Morgan
who's the three-old daughter
are from North Wales because she was born
when they got here. So the mum
and the older child are Australian
and the dad
and the younger child are Welsh.
We're waiting for Morgan's
turn four before attempting a 24-hour
flight to Australia for a visit.
Thank you for keeping me sane. Stay
sex and relatable. Cheers, Sarah.
Jaze.
Cheers.
Cheers, cheers, Sarah.
Did you sign off your emails with Jiz?
Josh, I'm worried about this episode.
You're in a weird space.
I'm in a hugely weird space.
Do you know what?
I'm not in a weird space.
You are, you've had a mental week.
There's no fucking anchor here.
We need Claude McAleleley of podcasting to come in and steady the ship.
Or Claude, the guy from The Apprentice.
Or Claude.
All the other ones.
Claude Littner.
Claude Littner.
And then it was Karen Brady.
Nick Heuer.
Nick Huer.
Margaret Mountford.
Who cares now.
No one's fucking watching it anymore.
Alan Sugar's joined TikTok.
Has he indeed.
And he's all over the gaffing.
He's on a webcam looking the wrong way.
He was always big on tech, wasn't he, Alan Sugar?
Do you want to know something about Alan Sugar?
Yeah.
He was the guy that was made the Skyboxes or the dishes or whatever it was that Sky used.
And then as the Tottenham owner, he had the deciding vote in whether the Premier League went to Sky.
and then he made loads of money from selling all the sky stuff.
Oh, that's clever.
Alan Sugar.
Do you reckon that's difficult being called Alan Sugar if you're having tea?
Alan, sugar?
I don't think so, no.
What do you mean?
It must be frustrating.
Because he's not going to go, sorry, why are you saying my name with a question?
There's two Alan's in the room.
Alan Carr, Alan Sugar.
Yeah, they've been in the room together.
Alan, Sugar.
What's happening in that room then?
What's happening in that room?
Yeah, okay.
Alan Carr, Alan Sugar sat down.
I'm making tea. Alan, sugar.
Yeah, okay. Why are you saying Alan Sugar?
Because I'm making tea.
Yeah, but wouldn't you say which one if they're both sat down?
Well, no, but you don't know. I might be just saying Alan Sugar.
You might be.
I might have been Alan Carr.
Alan Sugar.
Alan Sugar.
And then Alan Sugar would go yes.
And then...
No, not you.
Alan Sugar.
And then you go, no, thank you.
Who would Alan?
Alan Carr.
Well, Alan. Alan would, yeah.
So, why are you so weird?
I've just had a no buffer date.
Oh, yeah.
I've just had a bit of a no...
I've just had a bit of a no buffer week.
Okay.
It's been busy.
Take me through your non-buffer week.
Non-buffer week.
Monday buffer.
They're Monday up to London and I did two episodes of celebrities to go dating.
And I was in a really weird headspace.
When all those celebs stop dating?
They just don't stop dating.
They don't.
They're always...
I think since I've known you, you've always...
At least once a week
I've been doing an episode of
Celebrity.
Well, there's so much time to feel.
It's 20 episodes a series.
Is it?
How have I never watched one?
No.
Fucking how.
How have I not watched one?
Mate, I have done...
So, have we seen...
There's been about a 15 series.
Have you done all of them?
Sorry, no disrespect.
The original voiceover.
Yeah, I was original.
But it's been so many.
We even did one in lockdown
when they're at to socially distance.
Have you ever seen people?
Wicks going for a picnic's two meters apart.
Well, I have actually, but that's a different story.
I think it's a 613 series, but I think there might be more than that now.
So I think there's been 15, if you include the lockdown one and this new one.
So it's 15, let's do the maths here, right?
So it's 15.
And was it always 20 apps or has it gone up?
It went up to 25 for a bit and I think we all agreed, five too many.
Five too many.
Exactly.
So 15 series times 20 episodes.
That's 300 episodes.
And there was about five series of an extra five, so five times 25.
So say 325 episodes, yeah?
Yeah, I've done of that.
Now, it takes two and a half hours to film,
record each episode.
Do you have to do any prep?
No.
I go in and read it.
But I'm in a V-O booth alone.
Yeah.
So 325 episodes times 2.5.
But you can talk to the guys out there, can't you?
It's 800, 812 hours.
I've been in a V-O-Boof alone.
Oh, my God.
So divide that by 24.
33 days.
33 days.
Of my life.
And you know what?
I've loved it.
Me shouting about how tiny my dick is, my assholes stinks.
You what?
Stuff like that.
I'm quite crude on it.
Yeah, I say mental stuff.
Wow.
Sometimes when, you know, Lee Ryan's having tacos.
So who's, can you tell me who's on this series?
You probably can't, can you?
I think I can.
Can you?
I think it's been announced.
Let me have a look.
Sorry, is this TV?
Let's just do an episode about my TV output.
Why not?
Well, we are going to talk about your special.
My week, yeah.
Seps good dating, they have announced them.
We have got Killeenolan, James Haskell.
Yeah.
David Potts from my Beefa Weekend, I'm all for a reality guy.
Professor Green.
That's a good booking.
Gabby Allen from Love Island.
I was thinking, when you said Gabby, I thought, Logan or Roslin, this is huge.
No, Gabby Allen from Love Island.
Gabby Logan.
James Haskell and then P.K. Humble.
Sorry, come on now.
Come on.
Lucinda Light from Married at first sight
Who the fuck is P.K. Humble?
He used to do the dogs.
Big a humble.
What?
Big a humble.
What the fuck is going on?
He's from Ballers League.
What's Ballers League?
He's an online personality, Josh.
Okay.
Yeah, that's it, I think.
Okay, cool.
I don't know who else.
Before we go on, you have got a special out.
Yeah, so my stand-up show.
Fine.
Giraffe.
No, it is special, and yours is special too.
put it down.
I've seen yours and it's not special.
You haven't seen mine.
Yeah, I got it sent to me to check whether it was special.
What's wrong with me?
I got your agent.
I said, could you just forward Rob's...
Just to double-check it's special.
Stand-up special and he said, it's not particularly special.
It's 90 minutes long, Josh.
Why?
Because that's how long the show was.
Including ads?
No, I think that's on top.
But it's a two-sitter.
You can watch half one night and watch the second half the next night.
No one's getting beyond 40 minutes.
Is there audio?
stuff. I talk to the crowd, yeah.
So it's London Palladium
show of Giraff that was recorded
in one night and yeah, so it's
going out on Friday the 3rd
of April. Good Friday is on Sky 1
9pm. That's good Friday. Good special and good Friday.
Great, special Friday, special show.
Good Friday special. So yeah,
please watch that. Okay.
Anyway, back to my week. I was doing stuff to go dating.
Yeah. Then
two episodes of that. Then my mum and dad come around
and then we watched
tell you with the kids and was having with the kids
and then Tuesday I was filming in Robin Ramesh,
then it was Parents' Evening
and then I had to go straight from Parents' Evening to the RTS Awards.
The actual Parents' Evening.
It was actually, not his TV show, Parents' Evening.
It was at my actual children's parents' evening.
So I had to go back there and then I went to the RTS Awards.
Did you win an RTS Award?
I wanted, well, me and Rommish won an RTS Award.
Oh, congratulations.
Thank you very much.
So did that, that was last night.
Then this morning, I had to try and load of clothes for a TV thing from 8 a.m.
I was up half, six kids left.
And then I did that, and then I went straight.
Who hosted the RTS Awards?
Tom Allen, very good.
Oh, nice.
He's so fun in Titanic.
I don't know if I mentioned it.
I need to see that, but I'm not going to, because I live in Exeter.
So then they left at 10 o'clock, but then I had to be on the half-10 train from Alpinton, got to Orminton, no parking spaces.
So then out to drive to Petswood, parked at Petswood, add 10 minutes.
So I then went and got a sandwich because I need something to eat and a coffee.
And I said to him, sandwich for breakfast.
Well, by this point, it was half ten.
This morning?
Yeah, that was this morning.
So I haven't eaten the sandwich.
I ate the sandwich at lunch when I got here.
I'm talking too fast.
breathe.
Don't breathe.
Keep going.
Keep going.
I said to him,
I've got to get the train in 10 minutes.
Is that enough time to make this sandwich?
As long as you run,
what do you mean?
Well, I won't have the sandwich.
She went, the bridge is shut.
You've got to go round the other side.
Oh my word.
So then I had to run.
What do you mean the bridges shut?
So how else are you going to get across?
You need to run because you're going across the tracks.
Yeah, I've got to find another bridge or tunnel.
What?
So I had to walk down the road to find the tunnel.
But you still got your sandwich.
I got my sandwich because the sandwich wasn't the problem.
The problem was trying to get to the other side of the train station.
Anyway, got on the train, got here.
I've just eaten a sandwich.
Now I'm talking to you, and I'm a little bit all over the place.
Well, it could be worse.
Go on.
So, my son was off school for two days.
Okay.
Temps.
Tempatures.
Right.
What was wrong with him?
Just on.
Just on.
Just on.
Just on.
I went to my parents on Sunday with him, and he was just,
it was like 2 p.m. and he was just yawning and going, I'm really tired.
And you're like, okay, there's something up here.
Yeah.
And then we got in the car and he just out, out like a light.
You can't send him to school with a temp.
I can't send him to school with a temp because it was under control with medication.
Medication, but then it would fly back up.
Carpull.
The double?
The double.
He's got to double them up.
You've got to go back to back.
Those companies, they're rivals.
They don't realize they're working together the whole time.
They're a duo.
Yeah, well, because you know, you can have a little bit of neurofilm in the cowpoles.
Exactly.
Because you can't go double cap.
They think they're fighting it out.
They're not.
Guys, your sales should be identical because we're back to back in them.
And he was off for two days?
He was off for two days.
Yesterday, my daughter had a concert, a spring concert.
And then he was like freaking out because we were going to the concert and leaving him and we're like, well, we can't not go to the concert.
And you couldn't take him because he's been off.
Couldn't take him.
He didn't want to go.
Have you got childcare down there now?
Yeah.
Is she there every day?
No, she's at Alton Towers today.
Is she what keeping?
She's cleaning oblivion.
Well, she didn't at Orton Towers.
Just family trip out.
Yeah.
Oh, lovely.
Take her family to Alton Towers.
Do you like rides?
You don't?
I fucking ate them.
Do I like rides?
No, I can do them, right?
Because you're just strapped in and you just do it, and you think about something else.
So, have you been to Blackpool Pleasure Beach?
Yes.
You know the one that fires you straight up into the air?
It used to be called the PlayStation ride.
I imagine it's not anymore.
No.
I remember doing that when I was at uni and the big one,
and the way I got through it is,
it feels like it's not helping my reputation as a cool dude.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But I'd run through in my head the 11 players
that played for Plymouth in the 1996 player final
when they'd be Darlington 1-0.
All right, okay.
Go on then, give it to us.
Do you want that?
Yeah.
More than anything you've ever said out loud.
In goal, Steve Cherry.
That's so funny, isn't it?
What's that funny?
Because he's called Steve Chal.
I suppose.
Steve Cherry.
Paul Williams left back.
Yeah.
Centerbacks.
Chris Curran,
Richard Logan and Mickey Heathcoat.
Nice.
Right back.
Mark Patterson.
Ronnie Moge.
Pardon?
Ronnie Moge.
Is you French?
No, he wasn't.
I think he's from East London.
Sorry, I keep coughing.
He scored the winning goal.
Ronnie Mojay, Chris Ledbetter,
Martin Barlow up front,
Mickey Evans, Adrian, Little John.
And by the end of that,
I'm off the roller coaster.
You're mid-playstation.
So if you are worried on a roller coaster, think of something you might be able to vaguely recall.
So if anyone ever sees you at the start of a roller coaster, they can see, go, they're queuing up at Disney, wherever they are or at Chessington.
I'm thinking of the England World Cup 1966.
Josh is strapped into mandrill mayhem and they think he's thinking about Steve Cherry.
If you ever see Josh on a roller coaster, just shout to Steve Cherry.
I've already got him.
I'm struggling with the right back.
Patterson.
World champion.
But are you planning on taking your kids to theme parks?
You've done Lego Land and hated it, didn't you?
Yeah, but I think they'd probably enjoy it more now.
There's no point until my son's tall enough.
Because then you're just creating a situation where your daughter can go on something to your son can't go on others.
There's a new Frozen World opening at Disneyland Paris, she might like.
I think we will.
Dip your toe in Paris and work backwards.
Exactly.
I think...
We're going to Europa Park
Is that the one that's themed around the Europa League?
Just different winners of the Europa League.
Well, you start at the Conference League park
because it's smaller rides.
No, it's in Germany
and it's like the biggest theme park in Europe
everyone sort of goes to.
So we're going to go there.
So do you like the rides?
I don't...
I quite like fast ones now.
I hate the drops.
But I love...
Yeah, I like going fast.
I don't like going.
That drop, your stomachs.
Did you like oblivion at Orton Towers?
I've not done.
I didn't do that.
Would you do oblivion?
I don't think so.
I did a gig in Dubai a few years ago.
We went to the theme park.
It was so weird because it was...
Motion gate.
I don't know.
Half it was inside.
Half it was outside.
And no one was there.
Yeah, I've been to that one.
The Smurf ride.
What the fuck is this?
I mean, God, no.
You think that with a lot of Dubai,
what financially is happening here.
But like...
Fuck all of it.
the moment.
Finally,
I couldn't happen
to a
nice
a bunch.
But,
uh,
but,
we got there
and then there's no
queues so we could
go on all the
rides loads of times.
It was fucking
heartbreaking,
Rob.
So who did you go
with?
Just the classic
trio.
Go on.
Lloyd Langford
Ed Gamble and
Maisie Adam.
We,
but we hadn't
gone especially.
We're all doing a gig.
You lost your
Steve Cherry to
Maisie Adam.
You at a concert,
spring concert.
Oh yeah, yeah.
that was lovely they did some pop hits that was fun yeah they did mamma mia it's such a fucking banger
you're like abba are so good that song has got so many different bits and when you hear it done you're
like fuck me they did sky full of stars i was like abra so much better than cold play and i say this
as a cold play apologist you love a bit of cold play i love the first two albums and half of the third one
you do look like the kind of man that knows the drummer's name will champion thank you
Do you want the rest of the band
While we're there
He sounds like a guitarist Johnny Buckland
Johnny Buckland yeah
Obviously the singer
Yeah Chris Martin
I don't know the bass player actually
Guy something
He's called Guy something
But anyway
This seemed like sweet guys cold play
I've got nothing against them
Yeah no
I like good guys
Yeah
So we went to the school
Oh yeah
Concert
Yeah
That's fine
That was fun
Really fun
But I didn't
And brought a snack
So afterwards there was tea and cake, I stole some cake for my children from the adult's cake section.
Right, that's okay.
People kept calling me on it while I was carrying cake in a napkin.
What, you wanted to give your daughter a snack after school?
Do you always turn out of a snack after school?
Yeah.
Really?
Yeah.
Every time.
And if you don't have one, there's trouble.
Yeah, which is insane because we live 50 yards from the school.
But we've got ourselves.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
So what kind of snacks you're dealing with here?
Well, they don't show me in the best light.
I'd love to say cucumber
You can't turn up a whole cucumber
Into school
So what kind of snacks you're doing?
Yeah
Your pond bears
Yeah
Your mini chuds
Yeah
Throw the ball in that area
And you hit something
Okay
Chocolate, chocolate
Chocolate bar
Maybe
They've got quite into these
Madlins that you get from
Do you know what a Madeline is?
Yeah
Those little cake
Like a small sponge cake
Yeah
You've got your kids are really white
Aren't they?
White?
Yeah
What do you mean?
Just proper
Cone County's white beige food.
What do you mean? Oh, sorry. I forgot you're serving jerk chicken to your kids when you meet them with the game.
I turn out of the cabal of samoses.
I'm not. It's very, very beige kind of.
You've got one of those huge pitella things outside the school.
Salt and vinegar crisps?
That's beige.
No.
That's spicy.
Oh, right, yeah, they'll have salt and vinegar crisps.
They'll have salt vinegar crisps.
Okay, okay, I'm just saying.
But it's saying Madeline, Pombare, mini-cheds.
Yeah.
It's one very...
Yeah, I'm sorry they're not having foe like your children, but...
Guys, I've got some hoppers.
I'm quite into Sri Lankan stuff at the moment.
Do you know what Michael told me?
Michael, the producer?
Yeah.
Go on.
Michael went down a wormhole on what?
Is it called Reddit, Michael?
Yeah.
A Reddit wormhole on what?
I read a full string about how we hate each other.
Me and you hate each other.
Who reckons we hate each other?
everyone that Michael Michael's like I went down
and Reddit Wormhole
and they were talking about how much you two hate each other
Basically they think the show's coming to an end soon
They think it's coming to an end
They're predicting that it will be over by the summer
Based on how you guys speak to each other
Honestly
Do we sound like we don't like each other?
Do you like me?
I love you too
I thought I enjoyed it
Yeah
It's a bit also as well
You know
I don't want to go into the numbers too heavy,
but for me to quit this,
you'd have to spit in my face at least three times of a record.
Just from an economics point.
Honestly, if you're on that Reddit thread,
I can tell you 10 TV shows
that haven't been stopped by people hating each other.
No, there's no hatred at all.
No.
I quite enjoy it.
Yeah, I do.
But there we go.
Oh, this is interesting.
I got sent.
Sunspell.
sent me a couple of t-shirts.
Oh, yeah, I got some pants.
Saying thanks for talking about the...
I've been slagging their pants off.
That's how long?
There's no such thing as bad PR.
No, no.
So they sent you the pants?
They sent me the t-shirts.
I love the clothes.
Was it through the same person?
Faye?
Yeah.
Yeah, maybe.
I think she was speaking to them about something else.
Yeah.
So they sent me some tops, but I love the clothes.
I just can't get involved in the pants.
Yeah, I love the clothes on the pants.
Too heavy knit for me.
I love the clothes and the pants.
So what else is it saying on Reddit?
They all love all the internet ones love Josh more than me.
That's what I've noticed.
I won't go that far.
Oh,
I'm going to go that far.
Can you phone Lou now?
Yeah.
Put her on speakerphone and say we can't go on holiday
because I think it's looking bad with the Reddit community.
Right, I see what she says about that.
Well, I do my belt back up.
Yeah, I can ask you.
I do that.
Oh, no.
I'll ask her out of the kids telling me.
I can talk about parenting as well.
What's she doing?
I think she's dropping the dogs off at the kennels because we're going on holiday to
Sorry, not Kenil's, the hotel.
So, anyway.
So my son was ill.
Yeah.
My daughter did a concert.
Sorry, you're talking about your kids?
Are you sure?
Because according to Reddit, we don't.
You're fucking losers.
I don't want to talk too heavily on this,
because I'm in a bit of a mental headspace.
But these people that go online to discuss us,
how little have they got on in their life?
What would have to happen to my workload for me to
You know what I'm going to do?
I'm going to join a forum to slag off two people I haven't met
because they may be arguing a bit more than I'd like them to be.
Gap me?
Anyway, yeah, so...
Hurry up your .
Is that what you want, Reddit?
You want, the truth?
So, parenting-wise.
Yes, parenting-wise.
It's the last week of the term.
Yes, Easter break.
So we're having a little bit of break.
After this so we can see our children over Easter.
And Michael's might have gone on a holiday.
Is he?
Yeah, he is.
Where you going, Michael?
I'm off to New York.
New York?
Fucking hell.
Yeah, all right.
Changed the record.
Wait till Reddit here about that.
Too, right.
That's a single, not a single, but a childless man going to New York in his spare time after working hard.
Should be ashamed of your privilege, mate.
I'm coming from the Isle of Wight to London with nothing, not a pen in your pocket,
and then building yourself to a point where you can go on holiday.
You should be ashamed of yourself.
You don't fucking work.
So cancel that holiday and fucking get your life in perspective.
It's good that I don't get affected by online comments.
That's why I don't read them.
Yeah.
I don't read anything online.
I mean, it's worse when people then say stuff to you.
Because there is a potential you go back and go.
Because they presume you have read it, read it.
As Lou got in touch.
No, she hasn't run back, actually.
Anyway, so while my daughter was in a concert.
Yeah.
So one of my daughters plays a guitar.
Yeah.
There was a guitar ensemble at this concert.
We saw about a year ago playing the guitar.
songbird by
Liam Gallagher
Oasis, right?
Yeah.
And it's really good, fine.
I've not seen her,
she does lessons at school,
I've not seen her play the guitar at home once.
Yeah.
Saw it last week.
Did a Taylor Swift song.
She's like Johnny Marr?
Really good.
Really good.
Wow.
But like, much better,
like, remarkably better.
And I was like,
because I thought,
she goes to lessons.
She never practices.
I assume she'd just be at the same level
for the next five years.
It's an hour a week.
It's an hour a week.
And then you just do that.
It's fine.
It's fine.
It's a bit of fun.
Express. She's got really really good.
I've never had a practice, but I'm just sort of letting her get on
with it. What did she sing? No, she played.
Oh, what did she play, sorry? Elizabeth Taylor.
Oh, yeah. She played along to that.
That one. And then my other daughter,
I love that song. She sung
Elizabeth Taylor. A whole new world.
But they made her sing it with an American accent.
Oh, wow. Yeah. She was like.
Was it a solo?
She did it with another girl, but they did solo part.
They sort of did a verse each and then did a chorus together at the end.
So they were doing that.
They do like a grandparent,
they do grandparents' concerts, which is quite nice.
I love the concerts.
Yeah, it's great, isn't it?
I love the concerts.
I'd cry a lot, though.
Do you?
Yeah, I'd try and not cry.
They were really going for it, and they loved it.
I think my daughter, who's eight,
is still not got that feeling that maybe if you were 10 or 11,
they're a bit more self-conscious at the concert.
My daughter was, and her class were really going for it
during Mamma Mia
and during Sky Full of Stars and Firework.
I mean, it was some mega hits.
She wasn't going for it fully then?
No, she was really going for it.
But what I mean is the kids that were a bit older,
you got the feeling they weren't as comfortable
with all the actions and stuff that was happening.
Because, do you know what I mean?
And you're like, oh God, yeah, this is when you get to the age where...
You get self-conscious.
You get self-conscious.
Well, I find there's two...
It's that a weird thing.
One, they're a bit too shy to do it.
And then all of a sudden, overnight, they're like,
and like giving it hardcore
and then they're getting back
but you don't want to let them feel embarrassed
with like that 13
because I see kids at about 13
where they're like they get treated like adults
and like no no let them be kids
yeah totally
I feel like we're a bit
you've still obviously got a slightly younger one
but I feel like with an 8 year old and the 10 year old
I'm in a little bit of the
eye of the storm
where it's calm right down
we've had the first wave of the tornado
we're in the eye of somewhere it's obviously busy
but quite easy really
because they make their own breakfast
they get their own bags packed and stuff like that.
They can run their own baths and all that kind of thing.
And then it will be a bit of a busier second storm when the teenage year is here.
So I'm just enjoying this moment.
And going back to your question, because you did interrupt me,
ready?
I like holidays with rides because sometimes I feel like if I go on a beach holiday,
I sit around the pool or on the beach and the kids are in the pool or the sea together playing.
Sometimes I make friends or they'll go,
can we go to the kids club for an hour?
because there's an event on
and I don't feel like I feel like I'm on holiday
I'm on holiday near them
whereas when you go to rides in a theme park
you're doing it with them like mates
Well can I recommend my favourite type of holiday
Black and Shine
Skying
Skiing my friend and yours
Your favourite
So is that gone into your favourite type of holiday
I just feel myself when I'm on the slopes
When I'm chopping up the powder
When I'm cutting down the alps
Or the dolomites
I just
feel like at one with nature.
Yeah.
I spoke to you for an hour about this,
but the first 40 minutes you hated it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So I still don't win it so you do like skiing.
I can't wait for next year.
Have you booked?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Too bloody right we have.
And you're looking forward to that.
I can't wait.
Really?
That'll be me.
Is that you?
Yeah.
Well, are you going to...
There'll be people who go, was at him.
But he went so fast, we couldn't see.
Are you going to go to the same place?
Yeah.
And are you going to get the bus to the bigger slopes now,
or are you going to stay on the training one?
I'd happily just go down that slope all the time.
I don't think that's a ski holiday.
No.
Well, there is this feeling.
I remember having a discussion with Rod Gilbert.
We were talking about, I was much earlier days.
And I was on tour, one of my first tours.
Yeah.
And he was like, how are you finding the gigs?
And I was like, to be honest, at that stage, I was like,
I'm not that nervous.
And he was like, ah, you've got used to the rooms.
You need to play bigger rooms.
Oh, yeah.
you've got used to this
and I haven't got to that point with a ski slope
do you know what I mean
but there will come a point
there comes a point with everything
where when you get too comfy
it becomes boring
and that's when you start snapping at each other
and Reddit kicks in
and that's when the show ends
that's when the show ends
well it's not
but it can go on for years after that
I'm really enjoying it
and more people are listening
I don't want to throw stats in people's faces
I don't want to undermine the Reddit guys
but it's kind of the best
it's ever been
Yeah, exactly.
Which is frustrating for us because we hate each other.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, of course.
But we...
Good news, bad news, Rob.
Good news, the viewers are up, listeners are up,
but it just means you can have to work with that for longer.
Come see, come, sir.
Come see, come, sir.
How is Rob and Rome going?
Best has ever been.
Best has ever been.
The most we've ever hate each other.
Exactly.
I don't hate anyone.
especially anyone that earns me money.
What's that?
Not only when you work with, but you do, I know, I can listen to me.
Who do I hate? Who do you hate?
Okay.
We could bleep them.
Could I give a genre of person?
Yeah, but don't say a race.
I'll take genre, but there's...
Overly interfering TV producers.
Yes, correct.
Huge genre.
Yeah.
That's why I said that when I got the award last night,
it was for entertainment performance
as opposed to the show.
I've got
I've had that exact award.
Have you?
The RTS?
Yeah.
For the last leg?
Yeah.
I'd share it as well.
I said,
it's great when you win this one
because it's for performance
which means I don't have to thank any producers.
It was all us.
And then I just held the silence for ages
and then I went,
I actually thank very much Bill.
But Bill is brilliant.
Bill Ryan,
by a brilliant producer.
No, too late.
No, I did say that.
But Bill Ryan's an amazing producer.
Yeah, too late.
TV produced, is that anything though, isn't it?
He's related to one of the Claxons.
Yes, that's his brother.
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Oh, nothing beats the feeling, Rob,
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Can I go?
Yeah.
I bought a brand new car with a roof box.
Yes, because you are middle-aged.
And do you know what I had to do?
the door of the car and stand on that little bottom bit so I could reach the top of the roof box.
Of course you did Rob.
And I bought that because I was a parent and I was going to go camping.
And did you?
Once.
There we go.
Hated it.
Yeah.
Who knew the wind was going to be a problem?
Who knew the wind was going to be a problem?
But I felt like a real grown-up buying an adult SUV car that had space in the boot for a buggy, a double buggy at that.
The first time I got on the property ladder.
Yeah.
And we got a mortgage on a small house.
First-time buyer.
First-time buyer.
and then we moved into that house
from a furnished property
that was a rental
and we realised we didn't have any furniture
and you bought a lovely massive shell
and you were a little snow
but you're so happy at that point
and you have pizza
order of pizza and sit on the floor
trying to get the telework
tele going not even on a bracket
oh mate
that's fun so much possibilities
one of the best moments of moving house
we bought a house and then we moved in
the same situation I was trying to get the full
Well, football on the telly, because there was a fun Sunday game on at about 4 o'clock.
And I've done it, and finally the game come on.
And as a game come on, the doorbell rang, and then the pizza roll had arrived at that moment.
And I sat down on my camping chair that I was using for the second time.
And I thought, this is life.
Yeah, that felt good.
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We're over halfway through the year now.
No, we're not.
The school year.
All right.
Which is how I work.
Okay.
I still work in school years.
Okay.
So halfway through the school.
I've always worked in school.
This is the problem with my...
Stop bending to run.
read it by trying to make the year
about school so you're a parent.
But this is what happened, right?
So school years, up to 18.
Yeah. Then I went to uni, so you're still working on school years.
Yeah. And then I worked for one year
at Waterstones, and then I worked for one...
So don't skim over that.
Waterstones is just normal year.
But I worked September to September.
Because I started when I left uni,
and then I worked for a year, so I was still working
in a school year situation.
Okay. I'll give you that on a technicality,
but you just worked in a normal
job for a year. Then I started doing
comedy, right? Yeah. A few years later. So I had a few years
of normal years. I started doing comedy. And suddenly
people are talking about Edinburgh, which is the end of the year
apparently in August. So you're back on to fucking school years again.
No, no. You're really pushing this.
So we are over halfway through the year. Right. Okay, so you want me to
agree that you've just been living school years
since... Yeah, all my life. Right, okay. Apart from the
You're at Waterstones, your whole comedy career.
No, no, the early bits of your comedy career, when you're, you've got Edinburgh is your, you've got to get a show ready.
Isn't that the beginning of the year?
No, because you've got to have the show ready for Edinburgh.
Yeah, so you're doing pre-season until the season kicks off in August.
Yeah, but then it's, this season finishes.
The whole point of the school year is no one goes to school in August, and that's when you do most of your work.
If it was a school year, you'd have August off.
No, but the point is, it starts in September, like the school year.
What starts in September?
No, it doesn't.
Everyone has a month off then.
because I've worked hard or don't work do anything.
I didn't.
That's why I'm bloody sat here.
That's what I've got to where I am.
While everyone else was sitting around in September.
I was stamping over them to get to the fucking top.
FHM stand-up hero.
I was like, do you know what?
I was in September.
So we're halfway through the year.
So we're halfway through the year.
It's just going too quickly for me.
Yeah, but you've done a lot.
When did you move out?
Do a lot?
I have been thinking this, Rob.
Should we quit this?
I shouldn't say no.
The writing's on the wall.
If I said.
Please don't.
I've been thinking, I could just do this and not do anything else.
Just podcast.
But I don't want to do that.
But there's part of me when I get in the car to, no disrespect, Nottingham on Saturday, which was lovely.
Someone said they were going to bring a baby.
I said, okay, they didn't bring the baby.
What's going on, though, for you at the moment?
When did you move out, September?
September, start of the school year.
Of course.
New start.
Because that's who you are.
Of course you moved in September.
Exactly.
So between now and September, you have had, well, since September and now,
you've had so much mental stuff going on it.
You've moved cities.
Done a tour.
Done a tour, moved cities, done loads of the last leg.
We've, in terrible timing, started recording this in person in London.
I know. Wild.
So it's like you've had a lot of.
Yeah.
And then when the, I think, don't make any major decisions.
Oh, no, I'm not going to do it.
The tour ends in May.
What feels difficult, right?
Yeah.
Is you go, I'm going to, let me be honest.
Yeah.
I'm going to Birmingham to do an awards.
I'm doing the Vision Express Awards in Birmingham.
Okay.
Yeah, okay.
When's that?
This Sunday.
This Sunday night?
Yeah, I know.
I know.
It's not a party time, is it?
Well, it is.
Vision Express Awards.
Look, Rob, full disclosure.
In my last two shows, I've had two
separate routines about glasses.
I'm very confident.
I'm going to rip this to shreds.
Does I say my really funny idea
for a sitcom episode about glasses?
No.
I rode it in a pilot for something that we never made up doing.
It was about my dad, a character
by my dad, who was sort of a bit like in it, bit up
my dad a little bit.
Yeah.
I just say, simple at times, but
well-meaning, right?
And he was trying to fix his glasses arm.
And as he was doing it, he was gluing it,
but he got you super glue
and he got his fingers stuck on the arm
and then his wife came in my mum
and went to Dave you've got to go and do this
you got to do that and he goes
well no actually I should do this
I do that and then was basically using his
because he gesturing with the glass
and it made you look intelligent
and then she was like alright then Dave
you don't have to do it and then she walked up the room
he just went oh
so the whole episode was him walking around
and he was basically getting all his own way
and dominating
oh that's really nice
It's good little bit of a sitcom.
Good in Seinfeld.
Yeah, great little bit.
Curbian Fusiasm.
So that's my, that's the only bit I've got on glasses.
We do all this work, Rob.
Yes, so you're being honest.
And it takes us away from my family.
Well, that's the problem, is to travel.
Is the travel?
And you go, when I left this morning, my daughter was gutted.
Yeah.
She's still in school.
She's still in school.
When are you back then?
You left this morning early?
I'm back at 2 a.m. on Friday.
2 a.m.
Okay.
She'll be in bed.
Because I've got Bex Hill tonight.
Why is it funny when you say a plate?
I've got Southend tomorrow.
Beck's him tonight, Southend tomorrow.
Last leg on Friday.
And then you're home Saturday.
Yeah.
No, Friday night.
Are you working Saturday Sunday?
I am.
We're going to a farm on Saturday.
Oh, nice.
Our friends have got a farm.
Yeah.
We're going to their house.
Oh, their farm.
Their farm.
Their farm house.
And then I've got Cheltenham in the evening.
Okay.
That's where that weekend suffers.
Then I come back.
Yeah.
But Cheltenham's actually quite near exit, so that's ideal.
Yeah.
ideal
and then I come back
and then Sunday
so my daughter goes
to an art class
I wonder what your take on this is
they occasionally
do a family day
where all the family
go and do the art together
so we're doing that on the Sunday
that's fun
I'd be into that
that's a bit of me
I'm quite nervy about that
that's because you think you're good at art
no I don't
and you don't want to look
like you're bad of it
and you want something to say
well done Josh that's great
no I don't it's not that actually
it's the thought of being in a room with other parents.
Oh, that's what's stressing you at?
Yeah.
But you're just focused on the art.
I know, I'm looking forward to it.
And then in the evening, I'm going to Birmingham for the Vision Express Awards.
Oh, fucking hell, mate.
No wonder you're a little bit confused about workload?
It's interesting.
So you're doing this now?
Are you gigging tonight?
Yeah, Bexhill, Delaware Pavilion.
So Bex Hill tonight, South End Tomorrow, Larseg, Friday,
farming the day, Cheltenham, art class in the day.
Vision Express.
Vision Express.
Yeah.
And then Monday?
Take my car in for its MOT.
Should we do some small business?
Yeah.
Here's small business.
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Do you know what?
They're right on Reddit.
You hate me.
He hates me.
Right, here we go.
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Good luck with it all. Right.
Thank fuck. I don't have to see you again for a while.
Oh, I love you. I like this.
This is fun. Enjoy this.
What a load of fucking shy. Don't go.
Don't go to Bexhill. Come back.
What a fucking waste of my life.
Thank God he's gone. Wanker.
Wanker. Shuffing
around his little fucking cup of
drinking.
It's a little...
Anyone want to host this with me?
Michael, get in the seat.
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