Parenting Hell with Rob Beckett and Josh Widdicombe - S12 EP31: Briony May Williams

Episode Date: April 21, 2026

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Lily, can you say Rob Beckett? Rob Beckett. And you say Josh Woodham. Just Willie, Mum. No need for that. No need for that. That's a shame. I don't like that.

I think she set that up and purpose to the mum. That's a shame, isn't it? Hello, this is my just-turned-five-year-old potty-mouthed, my words, daughter Lily, saying your names in the intro. I think she did quite well. Sorry, Josh. I've listed your podcast since lockdown. here and I was pregnant and on my daily walks. Massive thanks for all the laughs from Laura,

aged 421 months in Mold in North Wales. Mold. Did you used to get Willy Bum at school? It's not the first time I've heard it, yeah. Yeah. It's not like triggering me. I didn't think it would be. It feels like it is.

I'm fine, okay? Did you get called Willie Bum at school? Yeah, a bit. Yeah. But I just, I'm fine with it. I used to get Rob the Knob. Yeah, because of your massive dick. No, I just...

Just because it rhymed. Yeah. No, I know. Oh, sorry, just because it rhymed. Yeah. Rob the gob? No, rub the knob. No, I think I said it used to be called Bex until Beckham come along.

Oh, yeah. So I played football. Everyone used to call you Bex. And then when Bechle-on-on-on-this, so that sort of stuff. He must have been quite young in 1996. How old were you? Ten. Ten.

But I played from like the age of like eight. Oh, right, yeah. So he came, broke through in 1996, 97, didn't he? He did, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. May Williams today.

Here he go. Fresh from the tent and escaped from the country. Yeah. You'll just get that right. Series 9 of the Bake Off. Yep, semi-finalist. She was a fortune. I loved that episode.

So much energy. I thought she was going to come in and be quite twee and I'm a baker and I do a bit of telly, very middle class, but no, she was a great laugh. Do you know what? She put her foot on our throat. Absolutely. Do you know what? There's some people at home.

Yeah. That's how you do it. Would you mean? If you're coming on a podcast, any podcast, not just us. Yeah. You fucking deliver like that. You get on them. You don't let the fuckers.

You smother them. Exactly. That was perfect podcast guest. It was, it was great. If you're at home and you want to be a guest to a podcast,

enjoy the next 50 minutes because this is how you do it. You're getting right in their face. It's up playing a Premier League club from the lower leagues. Exactly. You've got to fucking muscle them off the ball. Do you know what it reminded me of?

Go on. Amor Rajan, when he came at us and we liked it. Yeah. Was it be like Amal Rajan? Yeah. Bring it. Right.

Bring on Brynett. She's absolutely brilliant. We love this. Anyway, here's Briny Mae Williams. Enjoy. Are you excited? I'm excited. I'm excited. But we are so unprofessional and lax. That's a start. So you're excited. I am excited. This is started. Yeah, this is started. Are we going? Oh, yeah. We've gone. We've gone.

I always think it's weird when you're like the star of it. And you're sat there and you're like, this is absolutely mental. Because we do an intro. Yeah. So you don't need to hear that rubbish. But then even in the intro, we don't actually go through the whole sort of Wikipedia. I'll read your whole Wikipedia out. I did talk at a school yesterday, at school I used to teach in,

and they'd forced this kid to introduce me, 17-year-old boy. So he basically just went on Wikipedia and he was stood there going, and she came to the public's attention. Oh, no. All the kid. I was like, oh, forced to. I was like, you found the Wikipedia page. Well, basically, the classic route, gave up teaching, a bit of bake-off,

then got in on telly. Did you? Here we are. Did you give up teaching before Bake-off? I gave up teaching, so I taught French and Spanish for seven years at secondary school. Yes, my en. Ah, bless his Spanish. See.

So. A-star. Way bien, thanks. Is it too? See? See. Quite a little style. Quantos is.

Quantos. How much is it? Isn't that the Australian airline? Quantas. Pretty close. I'll stop doing Spanish now. No, I enjoyed it. This could really surge the Hispanic sort of charts.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's a big market to tap into. Yeah, I can imagine. Oh, it's not even an A-Star anymore, is it? Mercado. Grande Macardo. To tap into it. Someone's been on Jewelingo.

What's your street? Mercadonna. Sorry, I'm not. What's from Mercadonna? What's that? That's a shop in Spain. It's a shop, yeah. It's like Tesco, but in Spain.

Yeah, it's a big taste. Spanish Tesco, yeah. Mendeguia. still a fluent speaker. Not as fluent as wrong, clearly. Butter and Butterfly, I just did there. Butter and Butterfly. That was nice, yeah. God, you've got really random knowledge of words.

Is that a GCSE that you're digging out there? Giacom, Indietta? He played football for Valencia. He played football. And Middlesbrough. And Middlesbrough, but yeah, more Valencia. Sorry. After these, coffee's quite strong.

Yeah, he's quite strong. I am sorry. So you did French and Spanish. I did French and Spanish. I taught that for seven years. And then when I had Nora, who's 10 now, she was a few months old and I woke my husband up

in the middle of the night I was on maternity leave and I was like Steve he was like what you know obviously he's very little sleep you get when you've got three months old

I don't want to go back to work and he went and you're telling me this now and I felt great because I got it off my chest so I went back to sleep he was awake most of the night and what does he do

he's a software engineer so by the time I'd woken up in the morning he'd done a spreadsheet and he was like we can do it and working out of budget yeah working out of budget and he was like yeah we can do it

so I stopped teaching when I had Nora because I wanted to be a stay-at-home mum with her and that's when I applied to Bake Off when she was just over one. Wow. It was more that you weren't happy teachers as opposed to you just didn't want to do anything. No, I love teaching. I love teaching. I still love it now.

Like, I really enjoyed it and I loved the kids. Didn't like all the report writing and all that. Yeah. Yeah, so too much current. I'd be more into the report. I always think that's the bit than the kids. With the parents, I just... I quite like the report writing, actually.

You take these little rats. Children, the admin. Yeah. And the parents are quite like the parents. Yeah. deal with the parents, I think. And we don't, it's rare we get, we've had, I suppose you've had Lowe, obviously, we've had Ramesh. Greg Davis was a teacher.

Yeah. But we've never had a mom, but it's not a kid. But like, it's rare we've had people that have come from teaching. Yeah. To do teaching, do you feel like you've got an affinity with children as it is? Well, now, I think there's a big difference between people who want to be primary school teachers. Yes. And people who want to be secondary school teachers.

Primary school teachers, I genuinely don't know how they do it. The patience they have with other people's children. it's beyond me. Secondary, they're teenagers. So it's a little bit better. So you think what secondary is more a love of your subject than a love of the children? Or a love of attention.

Can it be all three? Probably. But teachers on a work night out are the biggest hecklers going because they're not used to being told to sit down and shut up. Yeah, no, that's so true. There's a lot of teachers

that go into comedy and performing because it is a performance, isn't it? Can I make a confession? I've never said this out loud. You've done stand up. I have done stand up. but when I was a teacher, went on a night out,

and I left a load of exam papers in the pub because I got so drunk. Amazing. And I had to go back the next day and be like, excuse me, can I have that bag of exam? Did they have them? Yeah, they had them, thank God. And what would have happened if you hadn't?

Because you had fabricated it? No, because it was like a full-on, like, end-of-year exam. It was a private school I taught at as well, so exams were very important. So it was a full-on bag of a whole year's worth of end-of-year exam papers. Did you watch the show, teacher? Yes. And they would do like, so it was like a kind of Waterloo Road. No, no, no, it wasn't at all. It was more like a kind of trendy

thing. Oh, like yeah. Andrew Lincoln. And they'd do stuff like they'd be in the pub marking while getting pissed. Yes. Yeah. Would you be doing that? Yeah. No, she's just in the pub getting pissed. I was just in the pub getting I was just in the pub. I wondered whether you were taking it home and you went via the pub or were you sat there thinking. No, I wasn't marking it in the pub. Did you ever drink problem? I am actually sober now, but that's why. I'm actually sober now, but that's It's not because I had a drink problem. No, no, no, no drink.

I just like going out and getting drunk. I'm the bin's drinking generation. You know? It has to be that defensive. You know, yeah. You did get a bit defensive there, sorry. Yeah, yeah. I didn't have a problem, Rob.

Just needed a bottle of wine every night. Did you ever teach hungover? Yes. And what's that like? That must be awful. Awful. It's awful. You just think, am I going to throw up in the bin?

Am I going to make it out of the room on time? Would you be like, page 104 of the workbooks to 106, do it in silence? Do you know what you could do? and this is brilliant. It's like, just put on a film in Spanish. Be like, we're doing a listening exercise. Los Incriblis, the Incredibles in Spanish. Wow.

Year 8 would love that. Love it. I don't like that now. So I just put it on. Did you put English subtitles at the bottom? Yeah. So they could, they know what's done with it. Be nice to them.

So when your daughter's having a parent's evening in it, when you look at the teacher in the eye, can you tell if they care or not? Yeah, you can absolutely care. There are some teachers you talk to, and within about a minute you can tell if they hate their lives and their career and all children, because they're just so over it.

What's the tell? They're like really dead in the eye. Like when you look them in the eye, they look like their soul's gone. That's what my eyes look like. Whenever they take photos of me when I do early morning radio PR, I have those eyes.

Wow. Just then? What percentage do you get the vibe from teachers' wise are dead behind the eyes? Not that many. I reckon 30%. It's quite high. That's one in three.

That is one in three. People who ate their own lives. There's something. people that just maybe just leave the teaching behind, go into like more of an admin role. I do think if, you know, and now teachers will get the umph about this, but let me finish. If there wasn't such long

breaks for holiday and teachers need it, you know, whatever you have to say to keep them on side. It's for the kids, isn't it? The breaks. I don't know, but I do think if you told teachers that teaching now is you just do your job all year like other people do jobs without the six week gap in the middle.

I think... I don't think the caveats have helped you here. I think you would... I think you'd... lose a lot of teachers. My gosh, yeah. Because it genuinely is such a hard job. Yeah. Absolutely that's what I said.

I totally agree, yeah. Yeah. I don't think that's quite what you said. Let's one about the tapes on that. You do need six weeks off every year. Is it cool when you replay it in a football match? I don't know. VAR on that one.

No, but I do think numbers would drop dramatic. Oh, 100%. That was like one of the biggest things is that you got, you know, two weeks off at Christmas, three weeks off at Easter. And I went to a private school, so I got eight weeks off in the summer. Oh, yeah, of course. It's amazing. It's amazing.

But you kind of almost do need that time to read. coop and claw your soul back. At a private school, do you have to tell the parents that their kids are doing better than they are because you need to keep the money coming in? No. I mean, I have to say, they always used to give me the classes that were the lower end of the sets because they had to do a language at the school.

And loads of them, they were amazing at maths and physics. They absolutely sucked it Spanish. But they still had to do the GCSE. So they'd give me those classes and they'd come in and they did not want to be there. Like they hated it. Why did they give them you? Is that a compliment to you as a charismatic kind of dead poet society teacher or are you bottom rung so you're getting the punishment?

I think probably the second one. She smells a gin. Actually, lost the exam papers. He's lost in the exam papers. My boss always gave himself like the A star classes. So of course, like at the end of the year he'd be like, well, all the my class can't be doing that. I was like, okay.

And I was like, oh, my class got to see. But for me, that was me, that was. But not for the report for the private school. Not so much. No, not for the head. The head's like, why are they all getting a sea? Because they're thick. They're thick and they don't care.

Did you ever say that? No, I didn't, but I should have done. There was one boy once, through his whole oral exam, just kept saying that he did everything with me because he forgot everyone else. He'd be like, I go on holiday with Mrs. Williams. And I go to the cinema with Mrs. Oh, no.

I was like, I had to finish it. I was like, I have to go to the boss and say that I don't go on holiday with you. Just reinforce that I'm not one of those teachers. Yeah. Good news is he's great at languages, bad news is I have been going on with that. Extra tutor. So your daughter's 10.

Yes. How much do you care about her sort of academic reports? How much do you care about her? No, no, no. Obviously, because I think sometimes people put so much emphasis on education, their grades and what they do. And I'm sort of in a weird position where, like, I really struggled at school and didn't really enjoy it. And so I know that actually, once you're in the real world, if you've got enough about you, you can fool your own path. But you do need to try your best whilst you're at school and get the grades.

you might need to do something that's, you know, if you want to be a doctor, you can't just, you have to hit the grades to get places. How on it are you with your daughter? I am more like you. I just, all I genuinely want is for her to do her best. And I'm having seen the pressure in a private school, especially in the older years, what that can do to the kids, it's quite hard. Is that from the school or the parents?

Both. It can be quite demoralising for me. I was horrible. Much nice to have a child. Come here. Pat your bag. We're going to the do-doin. Yeah, I genuinely just want her.

Dunkirk. So it's just more French things. Is Dunkirk in France? It doesn't sound like it, does it? No. Duncaht. Isn't that something for the war? Yeah.

Yeah. I don't know. We're looking around. Carry on. I'm looking around some of the might. No. Is anyone you know anything about history? Sorry, I've really just moved that over.

I said Dunkirk and totally derailed the podcast. No, I'm enjoying this kind of like modern language Tourette's you've got going on today. I actually signed into the Wi-Fi. So you carry on, Josh, and I'll Google Dunkirk. And so you had your daughter and you had your daughter and you I want to be a stay-at-home mum. We were asking about how she cares about a kid's education. I'm aware that I said Dunkirk to do rein it.

Well, I think we kind of covered that. She wants them to try the best, but she doesn't want too much pressure because she's seen what it could do to kids when she taught them. Oh, fair enough. That's Josh, you were listening. I was listening.

You were talking about Dunkirk. And so your daughter... It's a historic port city in Northern France. Oh, there we go. There's it named that. Carry on. Every day's a school day. We used to do this down the line

so we'd be out of a computer so we could just do that. It is more disruptive now, isn't it? I don't find it disrupted. I wouldn't go again. I wouldn't read more. It comes from the French city's original Dutch name, Dunck, meaning church in the dunes.

There we go. Yeah, there we go. I thought if I've learnt something today. I am going to ask you about Escape to the Country. Please. We're going to do your podcast. We're going to do Bake Off. We're going to escape to the country.

Let's do a bit more parenting. All right, should we? Yeah, just Nora is your daughter. Nora. Great name. Do you shout Bloody Nora? Bloody Nora. Yeah, sometimes.

Or people would be like, who do you name are after? Nora Batty. I'm like, no. Do you ever say fucking Nora? Fucking Nora. Try not to. No. Fucking Nora.

I don't know if that's, if Bloody Nora's a whole UK thing. That's a very... I'd say bloody Nora. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'd say bloody Nora. Yeah, I don't think that's where we got the name from. No, of course. I don't think you'd go like, oh, Bloody Nora, fucking hell.

Bloody out. I think Steve, my husband saw it on a TV show. Nora, half a room. Nora Jones. Nora Jones. Nora Jones, there we go. I mean, you're going to know them better than I do. I just love the old granny names.

Yeah. You are? Nor away. Nor away. Are we not doing pounds? I don't even qualify as it. We are doing puns. This episode is brought to you by FedEx.

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It was a bit of a shock to the system. I was like, oh, yeah, it'd be great. I have so much time. Well, no, I've got a child, and I had a puppy as well. Oh, at the same time. Yeah, so we got Archie, the dog, when he was eight, weeks old in the November, got pregnant with Nora in the December. Yeah. And then we were like, well, shit, this is going to be a lot.

So kind of have had them growing up together. And he's a bit like, he's like my third baby. Cockapoo, of. Obviously. Classic middle class dog. Yeah, everyone's got a cockapur, didn't they? Yeah, well, I haven't. No, no, you got cats.

You've got cats. Three cats. And then you just bake off. Yeah, then I applied to bake off. And was that because you felt, what am I doing in my time? Yeah, like, would you have applied if you were a teacher? I don't know. Or was there a rudder.

to your existence that you felt needed. And how good were you at baking to go? I need to get us in a fucking tent, sharpish. I lied a lot on my application. Okay. Yeah. And then they were like, how often do break bread? Oh, every day.

Every day. Maybe once a month. Wow. I mean, cakes all the time, biscuits all the time, but other things like pastry and bread. So did you just quickly teach yourself? Yeah, a lot of YouTube. What's the process then? From writing off, take me through the process of getting on bake off.

It's like six months of auditions. So you send off your application form. You know, Noel's like. a voice comes on. Do you think you could be on the next series of bake-off? It's like, yeah, sure, why not? Set off the application form. But, you know, I am stuck at home a lot. The dog's shit again.

Yeah. He's working in software, so we'll blow up for money for a bit. Why not? Can I come in and cook some bake? Bake some stuff. Yeah, yeah. Basically, yeah. So I sent off the application and thought nothing of it.

Then kept getting some miss calls from London and ignored it. Miss calls from London. What kind of fucking Victorian? The number is just 02O. That was it. She comes up as from London on your phone. I'm too worried. That's why it's a Bostonian thing.

I'm from London. London calling. He's called from London town. From the big smoke. The big phone in the middle of London. I didn't know who it was, so I ignored it. Probably the Prime Minister, isn't it?

It's Big Ben! The Queen. RIP. Paddington? God rest of us all. Is he dead? He's not dead. Paddington?

Yeah. No, he's alive. He's on stage now? Yes, you can see it on stage? Yeah. I've got tickets. Have you? Yeah.

Well, Gerald. For June. But what I didn't get is, there's a person in the suit, but the person in the suit doesn't do the speaking. Yeah. Otherwise he'd be muffled. But why don't you just get the person

who's in the suit to do the voice? Well, maybe it's two different skill sets. It's a woman in the suit. Is it? She's had to do like extreme training. Is she? What? What kind of extreme training?

Because she's so warm in the suit. No, no. No, seriously? Is Pannington bear a man? Yeah, it's a he. It's a he? It's a he. I think a woman could do his voice.

Paddington, he's a bit like it. Give him a call, Rob. Have a word. Let me know what happens in June. Yeah, I will. I will. Colin Firth originally did the voice for the film and then they cut him. Really?

It didn't work. Who do they use that guy? I'm learning so much today. We're short. Anyway. Duncox in France. Colin Firth, kicking himself. So, you apply for Baker.

If you write off, then London calls. London calls. I thought it's PPI so I didn't answer. Yeah, of course. Yeah, and then basically you got like a regional audition. You have to take bakes along. So you go along to... And how do they know it's your bake?

Well, they ask you questions because they have had people like turn up with other people's bakes. Why does it say Sarah Lee on it? Yeah. Apparently though they do have people like sending in like pictures of like Bourbonnes and stuff and saying that they've made them yeah Yeah, yeah

This is what I made this week If ever you're going to get caught out But I suppose you think By the time I'm in the tent I've just got to get in there And then I deal with that When I get that Yeah yeah I'll be alright

But then you have to go to London You have to go to London Oh my mate Not for me Paddington Station Pallington Station of course And you have to do an audition Live in front of cameras

You have to do a technical. And is that just your baking, or is it, and I don't want to put words in your mouth, your sparkling personality? I think it's a bit of both. I was opposite a lady called Julie, who I call Perfect Julie. She finished. We had an hour and a half to make one meal foy, right? One what, sorry?

One meal foy. Sorry, what happened there? Is that French? That's French, yeah. What's it mean? Melefoil. A million layers. It's not, though, is it?

It doesn't feel. That 20. Doesn't feel long enough, does it? A million a thousand. I've got a thousand. That's not a thousand. That's a lot of two hundred tops. Probably about five, yeah.

Are we worried about in the baking industry on the million thing? We'll come back to it. Sorry to digress. No, I love this. I think it's going to be a bit of a digress in. The millionaire shortbread is now becoming billionaire. Yes. Is it now a bigot?

Nothing. They're just renaming it. No, they're just renaming it. No, it's already got caramel in it. They're putting something like a gold leaf or something. No, they're not. They're just changing the name. Inflation?

Yeah, well, of course it's inflation. Blame his trust. Anyway, carry on The meal fry What are we talking about? Oh you make milk fry Perfect Julia Oh yeah perfect Julie

Yeah as you kid She was She was opposite me We had an hour and a half She finished in 45 minutes And they just started cleaning up Her station And they came over and they said

Are you always is sufficient In the kitchen And she went Yeah my friends do call me Perfect Julie Oh Big red mark From the people at love productions

I imagine I think she's great though She'd be great in the tent. Did she make it to the tent? No. Of course she didn't. I was there literally covered in cream. But that's what they won.

Rasprees. Absolute nightmare. Because that's what they won. And she made a really patronising comment about my hand as well and I was like, oh, because I get my nails done. And she went, oh, that's so sweet that you have your thumb done too.

Oh, fuck, Julie. Peace off, Julie. Yeah, I hate Julie. So for people that are listening. Oh, yeah, sorry, I should probably explain that. I've only got a thumb on my left hand, so I was born. You were born. I was born.

That's just the end of the story. But they think it was when I was in my mum's womb, there wasn't enough room. Oh, fucking ill, mum. I know if I know. The blame lover. And it's called Cimbrachydactylie, which I think sounds like a dinosaur. Yeah. Simbraki dactyl.

I didn't know that until I ended up on bacon. And so it's not a... I didn't. What did you think? I just call it my little hand. And then when the press picked up on it, they were like simbracidactyl. Oh, wow. Okay.

It's been technical challenge or something like that. I was going to do a bake-off joke. I mean, I just don't know enough about bake-off. Can I ask a question? Always. For someone on screen. Six identical SIM-Backing Dactlees. That's what they'd say, isn't it?

For some of the works in TV with a disability, how do you feel about Josh Whitacom? Earning a crust of disabled people for 12, 14 years on a show about disability. And he sat there with nothing physical, but God knows what's going on your side. Just for the listeners, Josh just waved his 10 fingers on me. I couldn't fake money. In your face. You're the token able guy, aren't you? I'm the token able body.

Yeah. If we don't... How did you get the gig? I'm so impressed. The straight white, able-bodied man is dying out. We've got to have the diversity. I got the gig. Did you limp into the audition?

There was no audition. They needed a comedian at the last minute for the Paralympic show. So I said I'd do it because I thought I'll get some free tickets and no one will ever think about this show again. and it was like a late night show. It's meant to be on E4 and then it got moved to Channel 4 because Adam Hills did a good speech

at a Channel 4 event. Oh, did it? What's Adam? Who's actually got disability? Yeah, actually, yeah. Well, I think if Channel 4 were casting it now, I don't think you would have got it. I don't think they assumed it was going to be a big thing.

Well, and I mean this, rightly so. It wouldn't be three white men as well. No. Four, me. Probably be there too. Come on. Come on, let's go. So how do you feel about that, though, Josh, doing that.

Is that fun? Fair play. So you did break off. When you did bake off, did you think it was series nine. Well done. Someone's been on Wikipedia. Yeah, too, right. Well, you came to the public's attention.

When you came to the public's attention. So I will drop in French. It's a bilingual pod today. Yeah. Nardia had been earlier because she was in the BBC. But it wasn't like a star maker like say, Love Island. Love Island, which was your first choice. Obviously.

Obviously. Do you know what? They love on Love Island. People with missing limbs. They love... Yeah, not my type on paper. Yeah. What, the hand?

Why's too much? You can't say that. Perfect Julie can finish in half the time. Oh, there you go. That's a classic perfect juice. Maybe that's where she ended up with that. I don't know. But it wasn't like a thing, you didn't go into it thinking this could lead to a career in television.

No, my big plan was just to go back to teaching after when Nora went to school. Right. So you just wanted those four or five years off to go back to teach. I didn't mean off, but you know what? mean like, but you weren't planning on. I was going to say something and I thought, no, I did. To dedicate your life to your child. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Such a horrible man, isn't he? Hear that. Off, you at home looking after Charles? Oh, for fuck sake. Yeah. And one hand, one handed. One hand tied behind your back, quite literally. Quite, yeah.

Well, not quite. Well, he wouldn't be mad. Do you want some more Dunkirk facts to get you out of this? No. So then how does that happen off the back of Bake Off? Like, do people go, oh, could you do you do? one show on Steph's Pat Lunch and then you before, is it like that kind of?

Kind of, yeah. Well, I got an agent and then things were going quite well. I was writing for like, Asda magazine. I'd been on Blue Peter. And then after six months, they just dumped me and were like, oh, what, the agency. They were like, oh, yeah, the agent who's looking after he's leaving and no one can look after you here.

So bye. And I was like. No one can look after you. You're too much of a nightmare. No one can look after. Tiny little me who literally does nap all. And yeah, so that I ended up signing with the agent I'm with now who made. mainly has disabled clients.

And once I signed with him, who else have they got? Lost Voice Guy. Oh, yeah. Adam Pearson, the actor. Oh, yeah. Harriet Dyer. I tell you what,

their number is on, you know, like the deal or no deal phone in the last leg office, that's just your agent. Yeah, basically, yeah. He also supplies everyone of any kind of disability

or morning live. We all are. Joshua thinks been killed in an accident. Yes. Woo-hoo! The office goes! Let's go! Let's go!

Literally if anyone needs a disabled person to come on. Andrew, can you send over? We've got a gardener, comedians, cook, whatever you need. And so you now do escape to the country. I do. I love it. I love escape to the country. Can I ask you some questions about the film?

Please do. I've watched Escape to the Country, right? You've escaped to the country. You have. You have. You've more escaped to the country than me. He's living in a world where he thinks Exeter is a city and not just a place in the countryside.

He's a cathedral. The funny thing is that I don't live in the country. If I go there and do a tour show, I have to go to the uni. Yeah, that's not a city. That's not a functioning city if they haven't got a theatre. They have. What? The North Cup, but it's only 300 seats.

Just do five nights. You're a six-month residency. On Escape to the Country. I've watched a lot of episodes. Love it, yeah. I've never seen them buy a house. Have they ever managed to escape to the country. People say this to me all the time.

They're like, they never buy the house. They do, they do. My first episode I ever presented, they bought one of the houses. Did they? Yeah, that was four years ago. And do you see the houses in advance? Do you recie them? No, I see them on the day.

So you're walking around and you're basically trying to figure it out as you're walking around. So I get shown around by either the owners or the researchers and they'll show me around and they'll, you know, they'll have given me the details of the house the day before to kind of brush up on. And then I walk around going, I've found you. But I find out because I watch Placing the Sun as well and escape to the car. Don't say that to her. That's like interviewing blur and saying, Can I ask you about this Oasis album? Very similar types of show.

Now, but the people are doing it? Have you got experience in estate agent? It's just normally just a presenter. It's like Richie Anderson's just started on Escapes of Country. Yeah, exactly. I think, now, because people always say to me, how did you get a job on Escape District Country? I've got the best disabled agent.

There is. Exactly. I don't really know. I think it's because I like talking to people, quite chatty, love houses. I've spent a lot of time on Wright movies. guys. Yeah.

Oh, we're all like, thousands of hours of training. Can I ask another question about escape to the cancer? There's a bit in it.

I'm not saying that they're filling time. But I love the bit where you go and look around the houses and then there'll be a bit where they go to get to know the area.

Why don't we go Morris dancing or something? Why is that that? Oh, I love that bit though. Do you? Yeah, no, I do. Are you involved in that bit? Yeah, a lot of the time

I've been bell ringing like, you know, like in Bath Avenue. I've been on a yacht, like a two million pound yacht. Oh, that's a lot. They let me drive it or sail it. What do you do with a yacht? Sail it?

Sail it, yeah. I wasn't going very fast, but they still let me do it. Well, I suppose drive. Sale implies, I suppose, a sail. Yeah, there was one of those. But you were steering an engine? Yeah, steering the big... No, you're not steering an engine.

It's a sailboat. Steering a rudder, an udder? Not a rudder. I definitely wasn't searing an udder. No. They did make me get in a wetsuit this series, which... On camera? Can I ask...

I'm actually getting into it? Oh, no, that would be really bad. I draw the line. I'll be in it, but I'm not getting into it. Can I ask you about your disability? Please do. You're kind of honorary. I don't always have a honouredy.

I'm an honourary. I'm disabled. I've got a learning difficulty. Have you? Dicexia is a learning disability. It's not the same as a physical disability, but if anything, I should be on last day more than Josh.

You really want his job, don't you? Yeah. It doesn't pay enough for Rob. Not Friday night. So it's not genetics. There was no thought that it'll be passed on. No, I did ask that when I got pregnant with Nora. Is there any chance?

No, it's just a freak thing that happened. Right. Not them calling myself a freak. If either of us had said, that, that would have been the end. That would have been the end, wouldn't it? And cancelled. I'm not even willing to do a topper on, I'm just letting that float in the air. Just not going to touch it, are you?

The thing is, so you remind me of Alex Brooker in the way of sort of like, carry on, carry on. No, let me finish. Having that sort of a totally just fun, carefree approach where some people, it will define them in every way, where they'll come in and talk. And it's like, whereas for you, it's just like, I'm Brini. Oh, yeah, I've got that, the same way as I've got blonde air or blue eyes. It's just a part.

I mean, you plow on. Yeah. Is that something that you've always been like that? Or did you learn to do that? Because obviously, at school, kids will look and say stuff. And how did that start? Because I think it's a really refreshing and inspiring approach to life. I'm so refreshing if you don't watch the last.

Yeah, sir. I've got to say, when I met Alex, we did get on really well because we've got the similar. Yeah, that approach, too. Well, he has a thing called Little Hand Club. If he meets people, yeah Is there a WhatsApp group? No, he starts If there is, I'm going to be living

He's not invited me He started it more recently than that A running thing where he'd meet people with the same hands And say they're part of Little Hand, you'd be, you'd be... Can I be part of the Little Hand Club? Amazing.

Yeah, I've always laughed about it. I've grew up with two brothers I didn't really have much choice but also I've had the same sort of friends since I was about two or three So growing up we were just always joke and laugh about it And my mum's always sort of help me

have a sense of humour about it That's just how I am. I think that's how I went into Bake Off as well, because they never actually mentioned it on Bake Off, which really annoyed a lot of people. They were like, what happened to the hand? If I'm brilliant honest, I don't watch Bakeoff, even though I did meet you on it.

Even though you did on it. I'll watch an episode for money. Oh, okay. So I've met you on there, but you've been voted out. But at that point, when you're the guest, you don't really talk much because you're moment because you need to talk about your experiences, we just sort of sit there nodding and going, yeah, okay, right,

that kind of thing. And then when you come in and then you spoke about it, but then like, I didn't really know until you brought it up. Yeah. A lot of don't. Did they film a bit Why they asked you and it got cut? No, I didn't want it

They just said, how do you want to go about it? And I said, I just don't want to talk about it I just want to be in there with everyone else They were like, do you want any extra help? Quite bad the last five minutes we've done then Well, you've done. I think I've been excellent. Oh no, I do love talking about it.

You said freaking nodded. Yeah, I didn't. Watch out on the cameras. Neutral, neutral. Yeah, I'm dead behind the eyes. One of the 30% teachers. So let's talk about your podcast. Okay.

Because you have For someone who didn't want to get into showbiz, and you're in showbiz now. I am. This is showbiz. Look at it. This is lovely. There's a glitter ball in here and everything.

This is fucking showbiz, mate. You absolutely have an ability to be exciting and interesting conversation that we've interviewed people who are in showbiz who've got podcasts. So I'll be honest, I wouldn't want to listen to them. No. Tell us about your podcasts. So it's me and two of my besties. From Bristol?

Yeah. Oh, big brizzy. Big brizzy. You don't sound very Bristolian. No, when I was growing up, my mum was that you were not have a Pristoleon accent. You're not allowed to me that Bristol on the telly. They do too to calm it down.

You are, who are. I can go more Bristol for you if you want, though. Do you go more Bristol with your mates? When I used to drink, I would go very Bristol. And yeah, definitely, when I'm talking to Charlie and Vicks on the podcast, the Bristolian comes out a little. Give us the title. It's called I'm not judging butt, and it's just about our chaotic lives.

And we've all got daughters, so we talk about them. Yeah, I've known Charlie since I was four. and Vicks for like 15 years. Yeah, we've known each other. That's great. Because there's some podcasts I've seen where you go, I don't even believe those two people get on.

TV shows and they pretend they're all mates to do it. Yeah, so it's great. I love it. I love being able to like chat with my two besties every week. We have a real giggle, but also like talk about serious stuff as well. We've all got daughters. It's quite hard navigating that,

as I'm sure you both know. Like in the modern world. How much do you like to talk about your daughter or not talk about your daughter in that situation. I will talk about her, but I am in the back of my mind thinking if she hears this in a few years' time, how she's going to feel.

Because she's 10 now, so she's starting to get that. She's starting to be a little bit self-conscious. I'm, according to her, very cringe. Yeah, yeah, of course. I said, well, we're going to watch the New Year's Bake Off with me on. She went, do I have to? She went, why?

Why not? She went, it's a bit cringe. I was like, oh, wow, okay. Did you watch the whole series together with her? When I went out, she was only two. Oh, she didn't really care. No, too cringe. No, too cringe, Josh.

Don't want to watch it. Obviously, I know you're on series nine, and that's indelibly remembered. Sure. But just for the listeners that don't remember, how far did you get? You were a journalist in a previous life. I was great. I'm a politician. Yeah.

Semi-finals. Semi-finals. Thank you. Oh, come on. Did he just whist with that? No, he was on your exit episode. You told me in there. Yeah.

That's a not. Who won? Little Raoul. Oh, really kind of nervous. Oh, I think you should have won. Well, I'd say that? Yeah, sure. What's a little aisle up to him?

He's just had a baby. He's a nuclear physicist. He's still doing that. Really? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Although I would be really scared to see him treating some kind of nuclear bomb. Because in the morning, on the way in, on the Bakers bus, I used to have to clean his glasses because he, like, just... You should have left him dirty, you might want. Oh, yeah, damn it.

How much did you care? I was ready to go when I went. I thought I got out the first episode. So the fact that I got as far as I did, because there were a few weeks where I should have gone home probably but didn't. And I mean, I served them raw patient. and I put salt instead of sugar in the pastry as well. So I think really if I hadn't gone home, it would have been a bit of a bit of a bit of a bit of a hand shake.

No. Rob. Such an abelous prick for Hollywood. Did he give me a handshake? If he went for one, you should have given the left just to see him panic. It would be well awkward. Well awkward. No, I didn't get a hug though.

The first time I met Alex Brooker. Yeah. I was nervous about shaking his hand. I said the handshake because Paul, the Hollywood handshake. No, I know. I know. I know.

I was going for basic hand stuff. No, I know. The first time I met Alex Brooker, I was genuinely worried about it's an interesting kind of situation. And he kind of takes the bull by the horns if he meets people and tries to kind of just normal. Did you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah.

And I think that's, it's kind of almost what you have to do in a lot of situations just because otherwise it gets awkward and everyone feels uncomfortable. I tend to just talk about it, make a joke about it. Like, I did this talk at this school yesterday. And it was a load of like, they were teenagers. They were in sick for. But I was like, right, everyone, we talk about disability today. This is my hand. Take a look.

Everybody having to look? Yeah, okay, good. And when I was a teacher at the beginning of every year, I'd go into every class and go, right, this is what happened to my hand. Please feel free to look and stare, ask any questions you want in this first lesson. Nothing's too stupid. And then after that, I don't want to hear about it. Don't want to see anyone staring. That's move on with the life.

And it kind of gave them the freedom to be like, oh, okay, I can be able to. And what kind of questions would you get? How did it happen? Yeah. So I'd be like, you can tell people it was a shark attack, but it wasn't. It was really boring. Small womb. Yeah, small womb.

The old small womb. What other questions would I get? Does it hurt? Will your fingers ever grow? That's a bit stupid. That's not going to grow. No questions too stupid. Oh yeah.

I like, no question's too stupid. The third one, that's a bit stupid. I said it in my head though. I didn't say it. Yeah, yeah. Now, Rob, it's time for a special part of the show called Money MOT. And it's brought you by Monzo. Oh, MOTE.

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It's always tough. Mad decisions I've made. I remember when I started in comedy and like I just had no money. Yep. I remember going to a gig in the West. country from London via Birmingham to save money on the trains. Like I was just adding hours onto my journey to save 20 quid because I needed to. I remember getting one train that was 20 quid but got me to wrecks them at like midday for a 9pm gig just because I would save like 30 quid because

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resident. T's and C's apply. Your daughter thinks you're cringe, right? Now, my daughter's just turned 10. So we're heading towards that stage because at the moment she's still quite love you daddy kind of like. What do you do with her? To chill out or everything you suggest. Like, no, mum, I don't want to do that. Is she getting into that

teenage, right? Not yet. She hasn't got to that bit yet, but I can feel it coming. It's approaching. She's starting to spend a little bit more time wanting to sit by herself watching a bit of TV or you know, like spend some time in her room. She loves going shopping. I've trained her well. She loves charity shopping as well Which I'm a big fan of

And just generally sort of going shopping Go for a coffee Oh, okay So I've quite a grown up little Yeah Like she's just not into sort of playing anymore Like so Oh gosh

Oh no it is hard She asked for Lego Yeah Stitch Lego Phone is she got a phone? No So that's a slightly contentious Yeah

So what are you thinking No Not until at least like year seven or eight Yeah The good thing is Nora's school Everyone in the year Has decided

That they're not going to give their kids phones until year seven. I think that's the early issue. Especially they've got to get to them from school and buses and stuff. We got her a Nokia that you can play snake on in case she's going over to her mate's house.

Yeah, we were thinking about that. We called it the family phone. Like she's not allowed to just have it. Like we have it. We'll only give it to her when she goes out. If she's going off with friends, yeah. Yeah. So if she's off at the shopping centre and she goes off to a couple of different shops, she can take that with her.

And ring you whenever. Yeah. Yeah. So she got my number, Steve's number and my mum's. It was like 20 quid on Amazon at Lodd Nokia. Yeah. So that seems to work quite well. Does she like Escape to the Country? No.

Any time I'm even slightly on the telly, she's like, I don't want to watch this. She really doesn't. Have you done anything where you've done it for her, like any CBBs or CBBC? I did Blue Peter. Early doors that I got to say there. Here's one I made earlier. Have you got a badge? I stole one from the dressing room.

Did you? Does it still get you into places? I think you have to be under 16 and have a little card or something that goes with it. Oh, I stole the badge. I want one. coming with me. I'm not going to be invited back now. Well, it does feel like it was about 10 years ago.

They invited you on anyway. Yeah, it was. They haven't invited me back anyway. So I do certain things like she loves strictly, absolutely loves strictly. So I've managed to find out trying to get an invite to the kids can go and watch it up an afternoon. Yeah, we've been to that.

So I've managed to sort that out for this year. No, that's good. No, I'd love to, though. I'd be well up for that. Yeah, you'd be good on strictly. Do you think you'd talk me through how you think you'd do? I don't know. Like, I've got rhythm.

Okay. Show us. We've got some drums over. You first. You first? You did the Christmas one, didn't you? Yeah. What was it like?

It was absolutely brilliant. I don't think I could do the full one. Is it hard work? I feel like it's quite physical. I lost an incredible amount of weight. Maybe I will too. He keeps saying this. He did it for about a week and I'm...

And he goes, I've got in such great shape. He literally danced for like eight days in a row. And he's like, I just feel like, I'm just so ripped. I was like, absolutely bollup. I couldn't believe it. How much weight did you lose? Well, I didn't weigh myself. But my body shape changed.

I don't want to go back to the Chibalds again. I think it's psychosomatic. I don't think that happened. And get this, it's better. You're not allowed to say this on the show because obviously, but I slept. No, I, um. Strictly curse. You know, I'll say this in the shirt.

You eat whatever you want. Michael. Is it just me here? He trained for about a week. I know. And there's no way that he was that ripped. I was. I saw you everywhere.

There's no difference. I looked. so good. Honestly. I was no fucking different. I was interested in a massive

fucking penguin costume. Yeah, because the country couldn't deal with my ripped out. How long did you actually train for?

Yeah, like a month. That's about two weeks. Do it. We'd love to do it. We'd have to ask Rose if your body changed to see you would know.

You're sleeping on the floor and you put it on. So you'd love to do that. I'd love to do it. Yeah, I've done it. It takes two for the last couple of years. Maybe you've been a new host. Yeah, well, this is it.

Actually, I'm here's so exclusive, guys. Yeah. It just looks really fun. I think it'd be physically quite obviously. I mean, you know. Not like that's not. Quite exhausting. I'd have a pizza every night and I was still losing white. It's dreamy.

It's not. You weren't there. We were doing it on Zoom. Who? You're in Karen. From the shoulders down, though. What shoulders? What shoulders they were because I was having to do lifts.

She was lifting you, would she? I was lifting her. Thank you very much. Sorry. He talks about this incredible show. I've never seen any photographic evidence. It never happened in the Zooms. I don't know what was going. Your face showed no difference. It did.

Had a jaw. Can you get the before and afters? Snatched, weren't you on the jaw? Did you take some toptuous photos of yourself? No, I didn't know. You didn't know. You don't need to when you're looking that good. Fair enough. She's done with the reassurance. I think that's the only show that Nora would be like, it's not cringe because it's strictly. Although unless I fucked out massively.

Yeah. Would you feel a pressure there? Because she might be going, oh, God, you're going to... All her little mates watch it as well. That's a problem. Oh, yeah. Would you do celebtrators? Yeah. That was one cool thing I did.

We went to a ball and two of the traitors were there and Nora was so starstruck. Oh, which too? Come on, go and say hi. Mina and Charlotte from last year. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. And she was so excited to meet them and, like, I've never literally her face. She was beaming. What was Charlotte like?

She was. I was just like unfairly gun by that card. Isn't the Sleb one just much better than the normal one now? No, the normal one's incredible. It's so good yet it's on at the minute. It's just because you didn't watch the normal one. Then you got on board with the celebrity one. And then you were like, oh, it's only the celebrity one that's good.

No, I watched the first series tracks. But I find sometimes it comes out too quick and then they reveal half of it on social media. Yes, because Rob doesn't like the man in the street. He's only interested if that person's Sir Stephen Fry. If it's not David Olosug, I'm not interested. That's what Rob says. He's a massive fan of his, isn't I?

Always fucking fooling up his content. Honestly, every morning, Rob will say to me, have you seen David Olusugu's TikTok? Oh, shut up. David, I'm on the phone with him. I couldn't go on that show with him. I couldn't be a traitor to that guy. One of my best pals.

We haven't spoken enough about your kids or your podcasts, but that's always the way. Let's talk more about your podcast. Oh, yes, please. How many times a week is it on? We record it once a week. Do you do it together? I know.

No, we do it online at the moment. It's called I'm not judging, but. Come on, move into the 21st century. Yeah, we've been filming this. How? I just hit my hand on the mic. It's easier at home. Yeah, he didn't have to go on the train.

Do you find because you've got a job? that takes you to various unbuyable houses in the country. They're very viable to us. And also you've got like a 10-year-old. Yes. Do you find this is a good way of catching up with your mates when you wouldn't get to do it? Yeah, I love it. Technically, it's work.

And we're like, yeah, it's great. We just get to sit and chat for an hour. But then do you feel like you can't talk to them in the six days? If something happens, you need to save it. Kind of, yeah. I mean, we're always on WhatsApp, like sending stupid voices. We just talk about shit. But do you think I should not send that?

because I've got to save it for the pod. No, I just send it and then go, should we use that in the pod? Yeah, right. But then don't you feel like you're, it's exciting to hear them to hear it from you the first time on the pod, isn't it?

Because we've got a rule that we don't talk to each other about that kind of stuff. Oh, well, maybe we should start doing that. I mean, you're clearly doing very well. Oh, yeah, look at us. But, yeah, no, because we do that because before recording, if like, rather than go,

oh, God, I've had a nightmare this morning, we'll say, shut up. and then it'll be like, we'll just talk about normally Man United being shit because Michael Sports Man United. and then we know that we'd never talk about that on the pod. To your honest of you, with our voice notes, it's just all about menopause. The voice note situation, Lou is on voice notes all the time,

and they're minutes and minutes long. It's non-stop. How can you possibly have that much a say to your mate? Do you have a day, Lou went for a walk with her mates, right? At 9 a.m. I did the school run. Come back, and then her mates was sat in the kitchen chatting to her at 12, and then she was like, oh, I've got to go. And why are you going to get my nails done with Vicky?

That was what won. I was like, you've done five-hour shards. shift nearly with this friend. And then that night, which I wanted to tell her, she was like, I was like, how could you possibly have anything else to say to that woman? It never runs out. It doesn't. What is that?

It's so different though, like boys and girls. Men don't speak. No. My husband went out with his mates, came back and he was like, oh, so and so and so have broken up. They're getting a divorce. I went, oh, no, what happened? I don't know. So what do you mean?

He's one of your best mates. He was like, well, I don't know. I was like, when did it happen? I don't know. He's just divorced now. Also, they're getting a divorce that's so far down the track. Yeah. To have finally found that out.

Like, that's been going on at least a year. It's bad, but like, when you find out, like, not a close friend, but like someone in your circles, getting to divorce. Yeah, yeah, it's quite fun. I quite like the drama. Yeah, totally, totally. Totally. Obviously, I don't wish that on anyone if there's kids involved.

Ideal scenarios, people you don't actually like that much, no kids. You can really get into it. Or like a couple at school that you're not that. No, don't know that well. And especially if you've predicted it a few years before. How's your marriage? I mean, we don't really see each other, so it's great. Perfect.

How many houses in the country are you doing a year? How many of you bought, by the way, in the country side? I used to live in Bristol. I'd love to live in a country. Would you? I see so many houses. Would you? Well, I tell you the best way to move to the country.

Not everything outside of London is in the countryside. So what is Bristol? It's a city. It's a major city. Major? He's made it. He's got two. What, half a million people in Bristol?

Yeah. And London's got nine. Nine people. Nine of it. Yeah, that's fine. It's just hard when you're from London. It feels quite laid back in countryside. Clifton's nice.

Clifton's lovely. It's that town. No, it's part of Bristol. It's part of Bristol. It's part of Bristol. Like Richmond, yeah. Oh, I like Clifton. Local news is in decline across Canada.

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You know Bristol's like probably similar? Leeds? OK, you can have Bristol. Oh, Leeds and Cardiff, yeah. Edinburgh and Glasgow? Yeah, those two count. And then we're done, haven't we? Yeah.

That's it. That's it. That's it. Like Truro, fuck off. Do you what I mean? It is a city. Someone ringing a bell saying, you're on a pasty. What is this?

A cliche. Have you ever been to Truro? Yeah, and that happened. I was doing Truro a hall for Cornwall. I don't think it's fair to compare Bristol to Trurow, though. No, it's right. I know I love Truro. Oh, it doesn't sound like it.

Oh, you wait to your skateboard. in there. Oh God, I'm going to get lynched. How far do you escape? All around the country. All around the country, yeah. All over. North Yorkshire, I've been to quite a few times.

Yeah. Like it up there. Anglesey. Yorkshire. Have you done Devon? Devon, done Dorset. Cornwall, went down to Bude. That was nice.

Yeah. Yeah. Kent. Down to Margateway. No. And how often do you escape from there, aren't there? You don't need to name names. How often you think this couple's not going to last? The reason you're leaving the city is a fundamental

issue within the relationship. I could possibly comment. A new house and location will not save you from each other. Get a divorce, don't waste the stamp duty. I'll tell you after. Genuinely, we've covered so much. Have you got any questions for us?

No, I love it. Okay. I'll do the final question then, shall we? Final question. Your husband. Are you married? Yes. I wouldn't be judging either way.

I'm not judging, but. Too far as he turns away for one second. I can't wait to put a ring on your, and then he panicked. I just thought if we had an affair, my place on the last leg might be a bit. more secure. It would actually.

But also you can't really tell that I'm married because of course So proposal, was it always a given that you were just going to go on that finger? Yeah, no. So just to be clear, it's the left hand where you've got one thumb. Yes.

How thick are you got to be to not understand that's what we were talking about? You said spell it out for the... What if some of a thick French set are listening? Iskidero? Is that left? Oh, it's quirda. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Why are you so good at languages? Did you travel a lot? My mum speaks fluent French. She lived in Algeria for two years. Algeria? That's cool. My name.

Nepo baby. Actually, I think you're funny. It's a Neppo, Bebe. Bebe. So you're married? So I'm married. Back off, yes. No.

One thing about your husband that as a father blows you away, you go, that's the reason I'm with him. And one thing that's an annoying thing he does that you haven't mentioned. But if you were to listen to this, It's away from to find out. Okay. One thing he does amazingly,

ever since I started going away for work, which started off on Bake Off. So the first weekend I went to Bake Off, Nora got chicken pox. I left my bag on the train with our keys and my licence in, and some exam papers. And I had to call him up and be like,

I know you're looking after our daughter of a chicken box, but can you also get the locks changed, please? And ever since then, whenever I've been away, he has been just the most spectacular supportive dad and husband. Like, he never makes me feel bad about being away. he always makes sure Nora's alright.

So yeah, he does that beautifully. Even though they never take the house when you're away. They never agree to move to the country. Where is mommy not selling a house in a country again? I need to plant that scene a little bit more. And the thing that is starting to show is that Steve is incredibly logical. It's his software engineer brain. And Nora is also got a very logical side.

And they've started to butt heads. Oh, I thought they were ganging up on you. No, they've started to butt heads. Because you seem quite illogical. I am so illogical. I'm very emotional. I'm very emotional. I don't want to edit this.

No. Oh, logical Michael rocking back and forth over there. Where are the couple of years? At least when we were doing it from home, you could edit people out. This has been an absolute short. I'll just go in one of you consperee. So they're logical and I'm not and I just sit there and just watch them, but heads against each other and just want to go.

What kind of subjects? Could be anything. Like they just really pick at each other. Right, yeah, yeah. That just really annoys me because I'm just like, oh, guys, don't give a shit. Like, does it really matter?

No. No. You want it logical. I host a show where we spend thousands of pounds and not buying a house. Sometimes they buy a house. They do buy the house.

If they bring that up, I host celebrities go dating. Not one couple has been successful. And also, you're on a show about disability. Where's a disability? Fine, fine, fine. You're able-bodied wanker. If we're throwing stones here.

Yeah. I'm not going to. It's a joke. I could have done that. Go on, go on, Rocky Jervais. Go on bad, man. Go on Hitchie Javais. Go on Cheppel.

It's been lovely to have you on the show. What's the podcast again? I'm not judging, but... Thank you so much for coming on. Thanks for having you guys. Absolutely. Thanks, Ryan. Cheers. Who parenting hell listeners recognise that voice?

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