Parenting Hell with Rob Beckett and Josh Widdicombe - S12 EP33: Matt Morsia

Episode Date: April 28, 2026

Joining us this episode to discuss the highs and lows of parenting (and life) is YouTuber, bodybuilder, fitness coach and television personality - also known for appearing as Legend on the British sports game show Gladiators - Matt Morisa. Matt's new book FITNESS UNLOCKED is available to pre-order now and out on the 4 June 2026. Matt is also 'Legend' in the new BBC One hit series, Gladiators. You can watch the new UK Gladiators on BBC iPlayer Youtube: @mattdoesfitness Instagram: @mattdoesfitness Parenting Hell is available to watch on Spotify every Tuesday and Friday. Please subscribe and leave a rating and review you filthy street dogs... xxx If you want to get in touch with the show with any correspondence, kids intro audio clips, small business shout outs, and more.... here's how: EMAIL: [e-mail] Follow us on instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@parentinghell⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Sales, advertising, and general enquiries: [e-mail] A 'Keep It Light Media' Production  (Copyright 2026) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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And Josh Whittickham. Josh Whitigam. What's your... Josh Woodicum. And? And we... Rob Beckett? And Rob Beckett.

Okay, you got it better. Rob Beckett? You got it better. You got it better? South Africa? Yep. From Cape Town, Johannesburg. Did I tell you what happened to me in Johannesburg?

When I asked if it was safe. No. I was in a... a gated arm guard casino complex. Yeah, that's it. They had a hotel casino swimming pool. And I said, it's dangerous, so isn't it, Johannesburg? And the guy running the gig went, no, it's not really, it's fine.

I went, oh, I thought it was really dangerous. He went, only if you got to certain areas. I went, oh, where? He went, outside. Hi, guys. Here my two boys. Ethan and Casey, aged two and four. Ethan and Casey, they call traffic lights robots.

Robots. They do, don't that? Yeah. Have you seen District 9? Oh, the fucking prawns? Yeah, fucking bleak old film, that, isn't it? Yeah, good though. Great.

We are from Johannesburg, Joe Berg. Jayburg? Bickett. Sorry, is that? No, I don't think so. I've been listening to the podcast from day one and still loving it as always. Thanks to the last, Stefan. He's included his mobile number.

Oh, give him a call. Should we give him a call? Yeah, should we give him a call? Yeah, same time, isn't it, in Johannesburg? It is, yeah. Ring him and say hi. Hi Stefan, thank you for sending it in. Hello?

Hi, is that Stefan? Yeah, it's Josh Whitaker and Rob Beckett. You included your phone number on the email, so we just read out, you played your thing, and then I just clicked on the phone number. Oh, no worries. How are you? Good in you.

Thanks, Stefan. Thanks for... Thank you for sending in, and thanks for listening to the show. How's Joe Berg? I run out, meet the Cape Town from Jersey. Oh. Oh, nice. Yeah, nicer.

Good decision, Stefan. Oh, well, have a lovely day. And you'll be included on the start of the Matt Morseer Legend from Gladiators episode. Awesome. Thank you. Josh. Appreciate it. Thanks for it.

Oh, thank you. I'll be honest. I panicked when you picked up. Lovely to speak to you. Okay. Cool. Thanks. Awesome.

Bye. Bye. I felt like he was trying to wrap that up. Yeah. It didn't sound like he was, I think it was a bit shocked. Yeah. That was a strange little interaction,

wasn't it? It was, wasn't it? It was a cold call though, wasn't it, to be fair? It was a cold call. But if you're going to pick up, this is Matt Morseer.

That was the weirdest intro we've ever done. And we've done some really weird ones. Well, Matt Morcia. Thanks to coming on. We've been wanting you on for ages. Yeah. You're my wife's favourite of the gladias. People say this, right?

They'll be like, oh, my son and my girlfriend loves you. I'm like, what about you, mate? You're the first of you, the time. I hate you, but my wife absolutely does. Where do I rank in your Godd It is? Well, I know Nitro because I did strictly with him. That means nothing.

You're ranking it objectively. Yeah, I'd say you're number two to Nitro. In what? Gladysibility or your favourite. That's just inaccurate though, isn't it? This is why I like you because you're the funniest. But objectively the best, though, as well. Oh, are you making me rank you by just the performance?

package, gladiator. Because you've got to talk about on the mic, you've got to talk about performance in the competition. So including on the mic, performance and competition. This. The whole, everything, mate. Literally the full package. Can you make them dance?

Yes. Well, would night? You made them dance, not. You taught him that. You've got a bit of bottom half than Night Tram. Has he got skinnier legs in you? Well, he's a runner, in thank you. Everything down there's better.

Yeah. Everything. Yeah. See, this is why my wife's, not that, but this. Like in the shower was after? A lot. I've spent a lot of time. You've seen all the gladiators

studying those, yes. Because the thing with sports people is that... Let's not move on from this clip. That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. They're not comfortable. They're not uncomfortable.

If me and Rob had a shower after this. Oh, his face to walk. No, no, don't know. I'm also... So I played football as a kid, yeah, and the whole shower, I just find that very bizarre. Yeah. Okay.

Right, so, Matt, you're in the locker room, yeah? Yeah. You are down to your pants now. So obviously, you're comfortable... We're all in that. We're all in our... pants, right? Top, soft bottoms, everything else just pants. Now, pants have to come off.

Yeah. Why do they have to come off, though? Before you train, you're taking your pants off? Because you're going to put some swimming trunks in to go on the spa. Oh, you're swimming, okay. So you're taking them off to put your swimming trunks on to go in a gym pants. Okay, okay. Yeah, okay. So, how are you taking those pants off? Or go on, I don't know, I'm going first. I'm turning to face the locker. Yeah. Putting the pants down so everyone can see my naked bum. Are you bending? No, I'm sort of, I'm trying to, the minimal bit. There's got a bit of a bit of mechanical. You've got a bend a bit, haven't you?

But you're trying to not bend as much. So you've turned around, you've bent over. No, no, no, no, no. Because that's almost worse. No, I can show what I do. Yeah, can we see it? Like, yeah, yeah. Michael, it's just okay for cameras if everyone wants to see it.

Would you say, look at this before you do it? So I'll face that way. Yeah. And then I'll sort of go like that. Oh, it's so awkward. That's so awkward. Could you turn so you got back to the camera? Okay, so I'll be like that.

But the way you put your knees together as well, though. And then I'll lift a knee. Then I'll make sure my mic. Then I'm like that. It's very coy. And then I'm like that, putting it on, and I'm facing. And so people can see my bottom, but no one sees my dick. But you know, it's worse, whilst you do that, you know, because you're panicking, you just get one leg caught.

Oh, yeah. And then it's like, this is actually worse because it's just taking me ages to do that. Who at Gladiators? Yeah. Do you think it's the most likely to just be scared in the corner like that? Our Viper's quite like a, but I think that's more almost like, I don't know, he's quite a, not a private guy, but he likes his own space, should I mean? So he'd be more inclined. I think similar reason to me,

more just because it's like, I'd rather not, you know, if I had the choice. What would you two do? I would do the same coy away. Awkwardness. Awkwardness thing. Or I'd create a situation. I'd like walk around a corner.

Doing it as you're walking? No, not. That's dangerous, actually. That's a real role in the dice. Who's around the corner? Yeah, yeah. The corner out of the changing room. I wouldn't do that.

I wouldn't do that. So I'd probably do the same, but just less weird. I'd just stand up normally, but I'd just... Just because I think it's almost like... It's just a polite thing to do, right? Let's let you into a little secret here. We record three of these in a day, right? This is the first one?

This is the first one. Fresh, nice. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. That's why we bring the energy. Going to heart of the best one. But we wear different things for each one. Oh, yeah. So we do...

So we do get chate, in that room that you're waiting. We go tops off now and again. It must be an awkward. I can just imagine. That should be part of the And then do you know what? We slap each other on the back Yeah, great podcast.

Yeah. Great podcast. Sweaty. Yeah. Have you ever used a bottom locker and you've crouched to get something out of it naked and your ball bag touches the floor of the gym? No.

I mean, me neither. That flexibility, that's to, that squat depth. That's squat depth. That's pretty impressive. The ball bag's doing a lot of the work. Was yours when you've done that? What? You're saying you've done that?

Yeah. Do you see with squat? Yeah. Honestly, yeah, because you're literally going into your heels. I mean, we're really rinsing the visuals here. You've either got an enormous ball bag or you're very, very flexible. I'd say it's six, one, half a dozen the other. And half a dozen's in my nuts.

Right, let me see there. I don't know what that means. I don't know either. So it's sort of like... Oh, wow, that's a good little squat. It's impressive, but can I just say... His knees cracked. No, but...

What's that? The gap to cover is that was about... Well, don't estimate. Let's measure. So, they've done on... Oh, man. Oh, come on. You've got some...

That is a long ball bag. I've got a long ball bag. That's a medical concern. I would probably get that. Anyway, talking ball bags. You've got children. Yours work.

Yeah. Yeah. What children have you got? What children have you got? Two boys. A nine-year-old and a soon-to-be five-year-old. And at the time of recording this, your son just had an accident.

It was in the papers and I read it and I thought, oh wow. It is broken. It's very much broken. Sorry about that. Very not. You're laughing. Sorry. Rob Beckett just laughed at my four-year-old son's broken legs.

Sorry, I'm sorry. Sick man with a really flexible. So he has a spiral fracture of his tibia. So basically it's your shin bone. So innocuous, mate. He was literally, we said earlier. It's very rare for little kids to injure themselves, just generally, but in skiing because they're so flexible.

Yeah. But he, I think his ski just got caught, he went over it, and he's just, his shin bone just, you imagine like, Yeah. So is it a break or a fracture? A break is it's the same thing. Yeah. A fracture is another.

Like a more medical, a break is like, oh, it's a break. A fracture is like someone with above average like you. Sorry, have you just morphed into legend? Can you find the line? Am I talking to Matt or the character that is legend? Sorry, it's just, it's hard to say we're on ends. It's a fracture and, but it sounds bad. I mean, so we were in Switzerland.

By the way, Switzerland, it was like so not like medical center. We're straight in, put a cast on, boom, done. X-ray in like two minutes. so easy. Amazing. They basically put a cast from his foot right up to the top

of his thigh so his entire leg just fixed like this. But you know what's cool though, right? So they put this like sock on and they just wrap this tape

around and it goes hard. You can put it in water it's waterproof. Oh really? Which is like what a dream right? Because at the first I was thinking oh then you're like

trying to wash and stuff like now he's good to go just does whatever he wants is absolutely ideal. So what about like school or going to... Yeah, so they gave him

these little crutches Yeah. But like for a start he's four but also the leg obviously is straight and it's heavy so he just kept falling over. So, but the best thing, right?

I found the little kid's zimmer frame online. Next day delivery. I got it. Best thing ever. Really? He's flying around the house now, yeah. It's literally a little zimmer frame. Amazing. Also, our house, downstairs is all flat

and it's quite like a, it's quite like a slippery, not slippery, but it's like smooth. So he can just butt slide. He just bum slides and then uses the zimafram. A mad story. You know Shane Worn? He had incredibly like big strong hands for cricket. He injured his legs when he was a kid. So his parents got him

like a little tray that he put his body on and he just pulled himself around on his hands and he said that's how he got such strong little hands as a young age that's from that wow so you never know i've just made that up no no no it's true i know he's the thing i've don't know sliding around is more like because even the walking thing is like a bit slow sliding you can just like slide is quite fast you mean if you got a flat floor and he's going around with his hands but he's all right though he's good he doesn't go little guy does he want to go for a while I was in. Because it's next year.

But no, not here. We're going to go, we've already booked it. We're going to go same time at the Christmas New Year. You know that dead week where you do nothing.

We're going to go that week. So the interesting thing about me and you is we're both fitness influencers. Yes, I was going to say, actually, I always see you as somewhat of a role model in the fitness space. Yeah, exactly.

A lot of guys do. Have you seen my Runner's World Cup? No, but I would like to see it. You're a good runner. I did 5K this morning, right? It is mental, though, to get someone on to get on Runner's World. Is it not like a runner's magazine?

Ask you what his personal best is. For what? 5K. No, just asking what your personal best is? Well, I don't really do not. He said to me seven. And I don't know what he meant. KM.

KM. 7 kilometers is your personal best. Does that impress? What? What's that reaction? That looks like Rob, what you just said about... That is a bit like the ballback pose.

That's an action show. Are you touching? Are there to crop that out? Listen, it's cool that you're on the cover. That's really cool. But that is... That's giving me like David Brent vibes. It's creepy.

minute. You liked it? Yeah, I know, but I'm just gang up on you with a bigger boy. No, I think you looks a bit sexy, actually. I think I'm a bit smug. No, it's sick. It's all like that. Yeah, that's a really cool thing to have done. Do you want me to put a word in

with them for you? Yes, please. Do you run? 11% fitter. More like short, distant, like sprinting. I'm quick over 40 meters. For power? Is that for training? Yeah, yeah. The problem said it not, no. So I used to be, I did have

I was a long and triple jumper for like 10, almost 10 years. Were you? What were you? I tripled 15 and a half metres and I long jump seven and a bit meters. Which when you measure it out is pretty, it's pretty wild. So Jonathan Edwards was 18, wasn't he? Yeah. So that's the thing with...

That's not been broken for years though, that. Did he cheat? No, no, no, it's just a freak mate. It's just a specimen, yeah, yeah. I think it's the longest standing world record. Yeah, it seems like... Yeah. I just thought it's been so long.

Someone must have jumped further. Just a weird combination of like, I don't know, you know, like someone, he was just born to do that. It was ridiculously fast and light and like extremely technically. Was you lighter then when you did it? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So now I'm like close to 100 kilos. When I was triple jumping, I was like more like 80. But even then, I was still big.

That was one of my main issues. Like I, so as a kid, I was like muscular. I wasn't massive. I was just, you know, like a slim, muscular kid, right? So as a triple jumper, I was definitely bigger than you should be as you. Triple jumper, your upper body has given you nothing. You want to be as little as you can because it's just wasted weight.

You're just weighing yourself down. Do you know what I mean? So do you think the same as Harry Nitro? He came from athletics as well. Yeah, but he's a sprinter which is like. You still want to be light, but there is some benefit to having a muscular body. Right.

Also with him. No one ever goes, do you know what body I love? It's like that triple jumper. Yeah, high jumper. Yeah, because Jonathan Edwards. He would have them. Jonathan Edwards, you wouldn't even think

he's an athlete to look at him, would you? No, but he was still, though. But he's like, basically as an athlete for that kind of event where your weight matters, same as any sport like box, any sport where your weight matters. It's about your weight to strength, your weight to, your power ratio, relative to your strength. Right. So you want to be as strong as you can without having any unnecessary muscle mass. So like Jonathan Edwards was very strong, but just like efficient and really explosive.

Do you mean? What's it like being a gladiator in the parenting sense? It's good, yeah, it's cool. Is it? it must be like the most respected thing to say my dad is a gladia especially for like a nine year old kid that's prime age as well isn't it you what I mean so your kid's nine

nine and almost five five girls just getting his head around he loves it now but the first when he was three for example he didn't really know what so how old was the nine year old when it started was about three or four years ago seven I guess seven yeah that's perfect age kids yeah mate I'd say six to about

kind of maybe 12 that's the that's the peak guyator because I did one Christmas special the amount of kids have come up to me for being on it So like when you're, you know, you're on it every week. Yeah. It must be, is it difficult, though, because it's quite an overwhelming, because when people come up to you and want your attention or a photo,

it's hard enough when it's adults. When it's kids, you can never say no with kids. The school run must be wild. Yeah, yeah. So I, so firstly, yeah, so I've done you, so before glad it is, I had a decent following. So for social media, I'd get people come up to me, but that was more, my demographic was like, yeah, you know,

18 to 26-year-old guys that are like, excited to see you, but it's kind of, you know, they're pretty, a bit awkward, but they're, you know, they're not that. But I want to pick your brain more than, like, whereas, whereas we, and it also be more around gyms and stuff, right, whereas with Gladys, it's, like, screaming kids and its parents and it's particularly moms. And, like, for example, right, if you get a 20-year-old guy and he sees you,

they want to come and say hi, but if you're, you know, if you're busy or whatever, they're a bit more like, oh, I'll leave it. A mum, I'll be the same. If I saw someone that I know my kids love, I'm fucking getting a, getting that point of doing. Mums will run after me. they don't give a shit. I've had it where like

I'm out with... Sometimes leaving their kids and husbands Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'll have my... We're on the beach, right? My youngest is like, I forget what happened. We were in the sea or whatever. We live near the beach, we're on the beach.

He's been in the sea, whatever's at it. And he's, I forget what happened. But for some reason, he's naked, right? Shorts rough. He's soaking wet. He's crying because for whatever he's something... He's a three-year-old, that's what he does. I'm holding a crying, naked kid

trying to get back to my house. And I've clocked a fat and I'm like, oh, they've seen me, right? I think I was fine because I'm holding a screaming naked boy. They're going to leave him alone. Don't give a shit, mate. Come over to me, start a conversation, trying to get a photo. You're trying to get a photo.

What do you want me to do with, do you mean? Just by crying, naked, wet son that I'm holding. What do you want me to do here? Do you mean? But they don't, people don't care. They're ruthless. Yeah. But like you said, you can't say.

No, exactly. Parents with kids, I'm obviously not going to say no. But then legend, the character. Yeah. He's quite rude. Yeah. So that's kind of... So you've got that in your favour, right?

I very rarely do meet in greets But on the odd occasion I do a meeting greet That does work in my favour Because I can, yeah Because I always think It was a Jack Dee that says Like that's my character mate isn't it? Was it Jack D or someone like that

Said to me that it's great being Jack D Because if someone comes up to you And you tell them I don't want to do a photo They think it's hilarious They're like, oh great I met him, he's exactly like that And Moline and Noel Gallagher and stuff like that

Yeah Yeah No 100% Especially when it's anything that involves Like you know What could be a long winded conversation I can just end it abruptly because it's... Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Or did you pitch it Or did it just kind of evolve They approached me when it hadn't even been commissioned yet It was like we actually they approached me And they were like look we We want to make this show Right I'd sign an NDA

Because it was like that point It hadn't been It wasn't out in the public That they were doing that And they didn't they called it I forget but it was something like I forget the name of it But it wasn't glad it is

And I read it and I was like This sounds a lot like gladiators So they were lying or they didn't have the name yet? At that point they were trying to keep it under wraps because if they approached multiple people, they wanted to get out because I think there was the thing about BBC ITV and whatever they were going to do with it and they were trying to keep it under wraps right

so at that point it was like a bit of secret so I kind of I was like well this is definitely glad it is but it wasn't called that anyway so they approached me then but they from day one they knew so you had the original gladdetters which was like amazing best thing ever right then they tried you remember they read it

the Skyline in the 2000s that was dogging they were wearing silver clothes it's in a studio water which was weird didn't work. But on that show, a lot of the guys tried to do the wolf in there,

all trying to be quite angry. Yeah. I think that's part of the reason why it didn't really work. So this reboot, they've just,

they've just done it. They haven't tried to mess of it. It's just so similar to the original. Yeah. But the gladiators, most of the gladiators

are like big friendly giant. You know what? Yeah. Do the games, but they shake the contenders' hands. They say nice things. They're good sportsmen. They wanted like one person

just to be a prick, basically. Yeah. And they were like, we want you to be the dick. They said, look, it's up to you how hard you want to go with it, but that's the angle when I was like, I mean, like, but you're doing it in a funny way. You're not doing it.

Because obviously you've got Viper who is most similar to it. I feel like Viper, the way I see it is like, Viper is the bad guy for kids and I'm the bad guy for adults. That's the way I see it. You're not a bad guy. You're like funny with it. I think series one, it was more, I think because a lot of people didn't get it. Now at this point, everyone kind of realizes I'm taking the piece.

Yeah. Yeah. And it's not a character, is it? It's just you turned up to, I hate this person. That's the funny thing. It's like, that's what my mate says. It's like, people say, oh, what's you like in real life? And they're like, oh, it's actually.

It's made us slightly worse. For me, it's almost like, yeah. But we're swearing. It's almost like me being Matt, I'm like toning it down. The legend I can just do, you know, like, your intrusive thoughts. Yeah, yeah, I can just, within reason. It's an hour.

Yeah, yeah. So the way, maybe legend is to rule you? Maybe. Do you ever do it to kids? Oh yeah, all the time, yeah, yeah. That's even better. That's my favorite kind of bit angle to do is like when you, it sounds like you're going to say something nice. You start off with your chat and it's like you're going to say something nice

and then you just completely turn it around and just slap people in the face. You see people's faces. You know, they're like, oh yeah, they really get on board with what you're saying. And it's like, actually, your shit. I mean, I'm better than you. I love that. Have you ever gone too far? As you said it, gone, oh, I think I might have just pushed that.

So I'm like if I'm gonna say something that I think is good, I'll just run it by the production team. Now they're, to be honest, they're amazing. We're on a similar wavelength and like generally speaking, everything, they'll be like egging me on to like, yeah, yeah, do it, do it, do it. Occasionally, they're like, probably can't say that. More just because it's BBC and you've got, I mean. Even though it's like, it's fine, you just, I don't know, you just know people are going to, people are just like to complain about things. They've always been complaints about certain things. People will find anything to complain about, but like it's just, I don't know, I guess you've got to tread the line.

Kids tell you off when they see you being legend or they're just aware of each you at work, messing about. My kids. Your kids. That was out of older. That was hard at first. So, Luca, he's my nine-year-old, right? When we started, he was, yeah, seven, I guess.

And obviously, he's come to, the first time he's seen it is in real life as it's been in film, because it's not on TV yet. So series one, he's coming my wife. My wife comes to every single one, right? Every one. Every one. They're a long, days. Nine hours, 12 out of 14 days.

Like, every day, absolute. With the kids? she brings them some of the other times she'll come back like we're like a team we work together for years on social media she's like my sounding board so she's so helpful like and there's not a hanging around time she's not in the stands the whole time she'll be at a bit but you think if you don't come to that record you won't a lot of it you won't see because it's stuff gets edited out

you don't mean so you see that stuff it's really it's cool to do it but also it's useful for me like we'll chat about it after the record do I mean so that's really helpful but the so my eldest he said they're at the record obviously I'm I do my thing and everyone booes me you got five thousand people boo me. And obviously, I'm loving that.

I'm inviting that. Yeah. It's hard to, first to explain, it's all right. It's, you know, they're meant to do that. That's a good thing.

I mean, he's like, why is everyone booing, why five thousand people booing my dad, do I mean? Yeah. But now that, A, now that he understands it,

it's fine. But also, almost, almost, like now people would cheer. I'm like, oh, actually, I'd rather you boo.

Do you know what I mean? Doesn't, like at times, I'll do a bit, which is slagging the audience off, but they all laugh and cheer. wrestling in it yeah yeah so now so it's not so like not so much because it is intense my kids when they watch me doing it will get really upset and worried for me because obviously it's only a bit

fun and like you know you're going against him but no one's actually really hurting each other like people are going for it but it's not you know you've got padding on and because but when you're i was up there for so long what's the one with the massive cotton buds called again jewel jill it's against you right yeah i was like to knock him off and what do you mean no i didn't i didn't No, I nearly caught you early on, though. I caught him a good one, early on. I thought you got through it. No, no, so basically, I went onto my knees for ages.

At one point, he was on his hands and knees whilst I was pummeling his butt cheeks. Bucle, yeah, yeah, yeah. Do you know what, on that, by the way, the celeb one is a very, such a, it's really fun, but it's a very weird dynamic. Yeah. Because like, I mean, you actually, you were surprisingly good at Joel, right? But it's like, because you kind of seem like, if you're, right, imagine you're Arsenal, right? and you're playing a pre-season friendly against like a not a shit team,

but a low-level team, right? Yeah. You are inevitably going to be complacent, aren't you? Because you're like, in your head, you know you're going to win. Every stage is a stage. Okay, but anyway, you go into that duel, right? And it's like, I'm not just going to absolutely pummel you because that's a, not good TV.

And you need it to last for a while. Yeah. But then you end up like, it can, bar, you can kind of, do you mean? You end up, oh, you're like, oh, shit. Because I think I confused you at this stuff because I said, am I old in it the right way? You went, what? And then you went, let's go. And then you went, and I hit you once,

and then you batter me, but I did, your face, it's a weird vibe because you very, it's very easy to get, yeah, Jeremy, when you're just relaxed, having a laugh, you're like,

actually, Jules one of the games where you can just fall, dreaming, you could just fall off. Yeah, I've won loads of jewels, but almost every time, I'll be so embarrassing for you as well.

You get a little bit, a little bit, it's like a night, like, so for me, I need to have like a big, I thrive in like big crowds, big, intense, high stakes. I mean, that's what I love.

So like, that feeling, so for example, series, series two, there was a contender who was really fast on the wall. Like, we've never had a contender that fast, right? And on the wall, they get a head start. Yeah. So if you're quick on the wall, you should never get caught. Do you know what? It's like, it's only a 10 metre wall.

So if you're fast, they're gone, right? And we did the wall a couple of times and he beat me both times, right? And then in the final, we changed it to a race. So me and him had a race, right? And that was like my idea. And so I'm thinking, if I lose it now, I've suggested this. I've said about how he's lucky because he's had a headstst,

start and I'm betting him, it's the final, right? And he's been giving me so much stick. If I lose this race, do you mean? That's a low point for me. So I beat, I'm fucking destroyed him. But that's like, that was a lot of pressure. But that feeling, I love that feeling. That's like Jeopardy, where it's like,

this could be the worst thing ever, it would be the best thing about. Because with the celebs, it is difficult because the... You can't win, you can't win, really. And also, for the celebrities, you get there. You don't get a proper training where the actual contestants get a full weekend where they have a go at everything. And they practice, practice, practice.

And they are, you know, a certain level of fitness anyway, where the celebrities are fitting it in between. And really, you've done months of preparation, dreaming. You're off and you do it. Yeah, that's hard. And so it's hard for you as well because you have to balance that, like, how hard you go in and stuff. I think it's good fun.

But for me, I think it's different for me because the weird, so I love the games, right? And I'm like, I'm still like a sports person. I love doing sport. And I can say, I want to be competitive and be really good at the games, right? But realistically, I can lose. It doesn't really matter. My character is like, it's more than that.

Do you know what I mean? Some of the other guys, their thing is they're good at a certain game or the games. Do you know what I mean? So they're especially, they're better now, but a series when they came into it as like, I'm an athlete, do I mean? And a little bit of it's like, actually, guys, you've got to realize this is a TV show, do I mean? So actually, is there part of it by you're going to get their talking. If I keep getting beaten, I'm going to get dropped from the gladiades. So that's what I mean.

So for some of the guys, they've got to win the games because that's what they're bringing to the table. Do you mean? For me, there's been times where like... It's quite funny if you lose in your translation. That's what I mean. I've gone on, there's been times where I've gone on a little run, say, three, four, five days where I win every game. And it's like, I'm running out of things. I need to lose because it gives you a funny excuse.

Do you know what I mean? So, like, I kind of need a bit of both. And people want, like, people love seeing me lose. So you kind of need that as well to make it a spectacle. Do you know what I mean? So, like, I took me age to get my head around that because I'm like, I want to win every time. Yeah, because you're an entertainer and an athlete, not to just purely. If you just win, it's kind of, it doesn't always work.

I mean, you need that, lose an angle to make it funny for the other bits of chat. Well, you notice that. You know, it's weird because you're sort of, on Gladi is you're still at the top of your game, fitness-wise. Whereas when you have worked with athletes in TV, where it's all just entertainment now

and they're on like a panel show or something. I remember doing a panel show once with Frank Lampard where the question was like, who was like Chelsea's top score of that league. He just went, DJ Frogba! And there was no time for banter because he just was to get the point and stuff like that. So it's like a bit of a balance.

Is that like, especially the Sleb special is exactly that. You need to, there's no point like just destroying someone in three seconds or powerball pinning someone down and keep it. You need to make it into a game. But when I won the Jol, I actually won the Jol, which was quite impressive on the night. They were so annoyed. Oh, whoa, whoa, the Eliminator. No, Eliminator, sorry. That, not the Jol.

Can we just get that on there now, please? The Elimator, did you? No, gauntlet. Gornlet, sorry, got it. You got through a gauntlet. I got from Gautlet, yeah, yeah, yeah. And then I was giving them loads of pelters. and it's really embarrassing if the little chubby comedian gets through you on corner.

When Joel went in after me, bless him, they absolutely destroyed him. Because they basically went, it was like going one-nil down to like a league one team. And then in the second half going, right, bring on Ireland. Yeah, yeah. He got absolutely smashed. Yeah, but you were good, though. Rob was good. He was like, you're a good contender in this, like in the sense that the dream contender.

We had a couple guys that, like, we had a guy called Joe with his big beard. Like, it was like a, he was a driving instructor. And he looked, like an average guy. but it was actually good and that's what that's what you want jimmy you want the whole point of glad it is you have the contrast david Goliath right you have the normal contender who's like the average guy from from the pub and the massive jack gladiator right yeah if the contenders obviously they need to be good to make it a spectacle but that's what you want you don't want someone just too ripped guys banging into it yeah it's like that's what i'm gonna you're like glad that's is you're gonna so that works perfectly so you were good in that regard because you look fairly normal but you're actually good at the games

do i mean you're not shit in gladiators i'm not shit this is a question for parents i've wanted to a lot of not through my own choice night choice pranks show yeah epic pranks epic pranks epic pranks yeah do you know that epic not really you know mediocre pranks yeah is my question do you know you're being pranks uh no absolutely not though everything is everything is a complete shock is it well if you had to if you had to guess the answer to that what would your guess be uh that i believe everything i see on tv what i tell you is the show is is making for kids and kids aren't very perceptive so well when I did league of their own I had to sit in a room and pretend I didn't see Mika Richard stealing one of my shoes

that's harder because you're doing that for an adult audience you were gonna see that stuff well they was like why did they cancel that show they were like someone said I saw meke rich just coming with a crew was like yeah rob has it going you good and I was like yeah and then he's like cool like that and he went can I get a drink I went yeah right so I got and got a drink and I look around you literally just get in one of my shoes and puts it up his jumper He just sat there with it up his jumper. And he goes, cheers, mate, bye. And then he goes, cheers, mate.

And then I was like, is that okay? Is that what you want? Because I can't just go, why is my shoe? And then on the show, they were like, Rob, I'd like to watch a video of him stealing my shoe. And I was like, oh, you got me. Oh, no, he got my shoe. Cheeky week.

Your kids, yeah. Are you turning them into competitors? So obviously, it's hard, is it? Because to be a top athlete, you've got, so, for example, you look at like gymnas. they're doing gymnastics five days a week at the age of like four. Yeah. Now, if you want to be an athlete, you've got to do that.

But obviously I'd write, I feel like it's a bit of a weird. I have mates that are top gymnasts that have like, they're weird now because they've had a weird sheltered. All the top athletes are weird because they've focused everything on that. I think more so in some sports, do I mean? I feel like some sports. Let's do a top three. What are the weirdest sports people?

Oh, it would be stuff like, you know, like what's that weird, like, the modern pentathlon where it's like cross-country skiing and then you're shooting a target or something and then you're biafra riding a goat or something. Isn't it like golf or tennis when you were alone? Yeah. And you've just got your own, that Tiger Woods. Yeah.

Michael Jordan was nuts. But I think they all are quite intense. I think, yeah, I think things like I said, like gymnastics, you've got to specialise like from an early age. Yeah, your life is getting up at 5am and going to see your weird intense coach. And also as a kid, you've just lived this weird sheltered childhood. So obviously my kids, I'll encourage them to do.

They play sport. And they're really into it and I'll do whatever they want to do. But I wouldn't like push them to do. I mean, I think you don't want to put all your eggs in one basket because you get people that as a kid, they're a top gymnast, for example, they win all these competitions. Then they get to 14, hit puberty and it all goes downhill. They then spend their life thinking they're a failure.

So I think it's good to broaden your horizons a bit. So my boys will play football, but they also do, you know, tennis and other things. I think it's good just to, A, for enjoyment. So you don't just like get to 14, you're burnt. out, but also just to give you different options. Some people might not know you beyond being a gladiate, but you are, you were huge

on YouTube before that. What would you describe yourself as a fitness influencer? That's a horrible term, isn't it? The connotation is so bad, but do you mean, influencer? So I think, fitness expert? So I'm a YouTuber, YouTube, that's the thing, social media is like a blanket term, but YouTube is so different to other platforms, right?

Yeah. Being an, like, you can be an Instagrammer like, what are you doing? Putting some pictures on. Oh, well done. Do you mean? It takes five seconds. YouTube is like, it's like TV. Yeah. You're making it.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I've done YouTube for 13 years, right? So I spent it, I spent five years basically doing it as a full-time job whilst being a teacher to build my channel and made no money from it. Like, YouTube is a grind. Like, you've got a, you get the old person that gets a lucky break. But you want to be a comedian on the circuit. You learn your stripes. You learn a skill.

Yeah. And it's rough. And it's like one in a million. people make it right because it's just why would you I'm teaching I've got kids I've got a mortgage I've got a house and I'm trying to film little vlogs in Waitrose like what am I doing? Do you mean? It's just a stupid weird thing to do

do you know what I mean? Also whilst being a teacher which is the worst combo ever vlogging whilst being a teacher like you shouldn't really do that you know sir I've seen your videos and that views shit yeah yeah so like most people just don't do that because you're like it's awkward it's embarrassing do you mean but I for some reason persevered so I yeah I have always been a YouTube that

That's my thing and that, yeah. And you've got your book. Yeah. Fitness unlocked. It comes out in June. Pre-order it now, guys. Pre-order it now. Yeah.

All good bookshops. You guys would like, you should get it right. I mean, I don't exist, but you should get it because basically, right, anyone, any, any person, why is the book, I will tell you exactly what to do to get in good shape. Really? And maintain it. Because the thing is, it's like, there are so, like, I've done a book previously, there are so many misconceptions in both in terms of, like, fitness, training, but also diet. Yeah. People are led to believe that it's so complex and like you have to follow this ridiculously convoluted series of of exercises or food consumption and it's just bullshit like it's just so yeah it's not easy but it's so simple

do you mean yeah the underlying principles of getting in shape and eating what you should eat a fucking mind-numbingly simple what ages could kids start working out there's this taboo around like kids lifting weights or try exercising now obviously if you get a 12 year old kid and you get him doing heavy squats and deadlifts don't do that of course you're going to impede their growth and the risk of injury is higher right because their joints are not formed and they're doing but so my

nine year old he'll come we've got Jim in the guard he'll come and train him me now a couple of times a week he'll come down and do some pull-ups and some press ups and maybe knock about with a few little dumbbells that is a great thing to do right you're not only you you're impeding growth you're encouraging growth his bone

his bone density will be higher his joints will, because when your body is laying down the foundations for how your physique's going to be, if you give it no stimulus, it's going to, you know, your growth potential, right? This is the best you could ever be. This is the least you could ever be. What you do, activity wise, is what influences that. Do you mean? So you can only ever look so good based on your parents, right?

Yeah. And you can only ever look so bad based on your parent. That's why you get two guys that eat the same way, one of them's fat and one of them looks all right. Do you mean? Yeah. So why do you reckon? I could get to. I don't know enough about you, mate,

but you could, whoa. How big? Get your shit off right now. How old are you, Josh? How old are you? I'm 42. 42, good age. It's actually quite, that's...

How do you train? It's actually quite impressive. Yeah. Go on. He's not playing around. Do it again. Do it again. Do it again.

Yeah, put your tuck your thumb in because it makes your hand look smaller, it gives the illusion of a bigger arm. And then just do it, and then just do it a bit more. Elbow a bit higher. That's actually quite... That's a solid. It's a solid biceit, mate.

That's a great little tip. Look at that. Josh, any parent out there knows they're just winging it. Rob, I am hanging on by my fingertips. I'm basically improvising from one day to next. But do you know what helps is you've got like a network of family and friends? Yes. And I'd consider you one of them.

A family member? Nearly. Family friends and colleagues. Do you know what? I wouldn't consider you either. But you've got this network, right? But I'm a laugh. You're a laugh.

I have a good laugh, good to be around. Exactly. You wouldn't call me in a crisis, but you'll come to me for a laugh. Exactly. I do call you in crisis. Actually, you both call each other. They're free, those texts. You've got this network of friends and family, and do you know who does know that,

Tesco Mobile, because Tesco Mobile are your second most important network. That's why, Josh, they're bringing you this little segment. Yeah? The safety net. Talk to me. This is where we talk about the phone calls, the text messages, all those little things that come in through your phone, that keep things running smoothly. Or kind of smoothly.

As smoothly as they can be. Hey, life's not something that's really smooth. Curling rink. Oh, something little less obtuse, something a bit more normal, what's smooth. Laminate floor. Life's not laminate flooring all the time. Sometimes it's a bloody textured rug. Exactly.

Do you know what I love about textured rug? Warmer. Yeah, but doesn't really help the analogy. No. They are. But it's just the rough with a smooth. I'm going to give you an example. I couldn't live without.

Go on. Texts to other parents in my daughter's class saying, is it netball today? Yes. Because I don't know where this information is. And it comes at the right time. If I send that, someone's going to reply, I'm going to solve the situation. Do you know what I love, these little angels of the school, which some people call parents too busy for their own good. But I like to call them angels.

They'll say, hi, guys, just to remind everyone, but today is, whatever the day is. World Book Day. Yeah. Also I love, do you know what I love? Yeah. I get a little text in a group text and they say, who's up for Dad's Football Sunday night?

Here he is. And I go, do you know what? I've had a busy week. You've actually got one of them before this. Exactly. And I was like, oh, should I play on Sunday or not? I don't know because I've got the kids. And I was like, do you know what?

I need this little break in my life to go, I want to go and huff and puff and get all sweaty next to a load of other 40-year-old men. Exactly. And do you know what? Here's another one. I've got a friend who's a doctor. Yeah. I just send her every rush my kid's got.

I feel good for it. How about this one, Rob? Yeah. A situation where there's a parent that's been through stuff and you know they've been through it and then you're going through it. And it's very helpful to have these people at different stages of parenting that you can text and go, we're having some problems because we're moving to a next school up. How did you deal with that? Did you get a tutor in for 11 plus?

Yeah, exactly. That kind of stuff. Yeah, yeah. Honestly, having these people at the touch of a button, he's a great. great gift because parenting can feel very lonely. It can feel very lonely. Or the press of a screen. The press of a screen is 2026.

Why not? Why not? Having them is genuinely having that network of friends and family that you build up over the years is so important for parenting. Exactly. And that's what Tesco Mobile is all about, Josh. They're your second most important network.

Tesco Mobile. It pays to be connected. Search why Tesco Mobile to find out more. So food-wide, everyone sort of says food's most important thing. With your kids, are you, how strict are you with their food? Because you know what fuels up, but when their kids, it don't matter as much. Very similar to the exercise things. So many misconceptions around diet, like, straight away, right, if you label foods as being good and bad, that is a one-way ticket to an eating disorder. Like, for example, an apple, an apple's good, isn't it? Apple's great, right? If I eat 500 apples, I will die.

So therefore, how can that be a good one? I can have good food if it will kill me. Do you what I mean? It can't be. Without context, no food is good or bad, right? Yeah. A pizza is bad, right? But I could eat, and I do eat,

you can eat a pizza a day and be perfectly healthy. It's context, it's the wider, where that sits, where the pizza sits in your diet. If you eat pizza three times of every day, that then becomes bad. Do you mean? Yeah.

It's moderation, so just eat in moderation. If you like chocolate, eat chocolate, just don't eat loads of it every day. So if I bought this book, so is this book like a step-by-step guide, So like I'm sort of like going, right, I'd quite like to be, lose a little bit of fat, get a bit faster, a bit stronger and I'm a bit more muscle definition, right? And I'm 40 now. Yeah. Like, how...

That's literally it, mate. It is a step-by-step guide. You will open a book and it will say, you know, what is your goal? My goal is this. Here is your training plan. This is exactly physically what you do, step by step. And what's the guarantee? If I stick to this, how long...

He's not going to sit to it. Hey, I've committed to Steve Kram. I've been doing the couch. Do you also do? You can also get the Morseier app. It's even cheaper. Oh yeah that's my app the more the more that's a more practical it's on a phone you got a Matt the combination of both I'll sort of yeah the out mate the combination of both you get the app and the

book yeah the book is like tells you exactly what you've got it with your physical yeah the obviously you know the carry a book into the gym you could it's a bit weird isn't it the combination of both is the dream scenario right you all I will tell you exactly what to do and the key thing is how to maintain it because people what people do is and it's human nature is understandable right you want to do it now you're like right I want to do this mad transformation I'm gonna transform the way I look, right? And I'm going to do it for two months, then I'm done. Tick it off.

So my whole thing is maintain it forever, do I mean? Yes. You want to do, it's good to do things quickly. It's good to be impatient and get stuff done. But doing it with the longer term in mind. Because, for example, you know, get people doing these like horrendous, like, weight watchers diets. Oh, that's 75 hard and all that kind of stuff.

But you know, you do like these, it's like you're on a milk shake a day and you're eating 700 calories. If you eat 700 calories a day, obviously you're going to lose weight. Of course you are. I've got to diet if you eat four packs of watson you're going to lose weight, right? Because it's not enough calories, right?

Is that once a day? Yeah. You will lose weight. But then the problem is your metabolism is adaptive. So if you eat 700 calories a day, you lose weight. After a month or so, your metabolism adapts to 700 calories because otherwise you die, right? You have to adapt otherwise you just become skinny and you die.

So at that point, a month down the line, 700 calories is now your baseline. That's how you maintain your weight. what are you doing now? Do you mean? You go back to a normal diet, you're going to balloon. Quite cheap forever, though,

isn't it? Four packs of Watson's a day. But do you mean, I'll probably buy six and then let the other two spill over into the next day. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But that's what people do.

They do that. And you do it, so many clients that have done that. They do years of, like, horrendous, restrictive diets, and then their metabolism is absolutely fucked. And then you can never lose weight. Your body's done or what's going on.

Yeah, you can't eat any amount of food and you gain weight. And it's the same with exercise. You say, right, I want to get in great, shape so I'm going to go from never having trained to training seven days a week for two hours a day. You'll make, you'll get great results. But after three months, how do you then progress?

Because you're already training seven days a week. So with all these things, it's about taking, doing, it sounds weird, but make progress on the least amount of volume possible. Do you mean? If you can get better training two days a week, do that. And then when that gets not enough, then build it up. But don't make a massive jump because down the line, you're going to be, you're going to hit a wall. It's basically something you need to be doing forever and you need to be able to manage that into your week.

If you are doing something, training and diet-wise and you're like, oh, you're desperately, you're ticking off days and you're hanging in there by the skin of your teeth. That's not sustainable. If you can't see yourself doing it forever, don't bother doing it. Because at some point, you're going to fall off the wagon

and revert to how you were and you've wasted your time. Do you know what? I'm just going to not bother doing it. No, I'm joking. I thought that was an option. No, I joke. Your training and diet can be sustainable and enjoyable and it might be hard at first

but then once you get that bedded in it's easy and you maintain it forever I've got I'm talking to say because I've got a bit of a over what's the word overcompensating so if I'm doing something if I'll tell myself oh you're not you'll stand up to really good at the moment and then I would go out and try and gig seven days a week and then actually it was too much

because I didn't have time to think about it and I was just doing it to make myself feel better so with training I'm going away for two weeks filming yeah and I'll in my head like well I can go mad and get on it yeah yeah yeah yeah every day, but actually I'd be better served getting something that I could carry on long term after, rather than hammering it

for a week. It's human nature, especially now, now, everyone wants it now. And that's good in a way to have that, but you've got to also think what's the long term plan? Because the long term plan is, I don't want to die when I'm 60, I want to be healthy when I'm older, I'll play with my kids and all that shit. So that's having a longer term plan. So it's like

maybe raining in it a little bit now, but then you build it up and you have more scope for progression because otherwise you're just going to hit a wall. You're running. I don't mean, you go for a run every day, That's great, but then in a month's time, when that is now your baseline, how'd you progress that? You can't. Do you mean?

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Let's go. Glad to hear it. Yeah. I'll get so jacked. I get jacked. How do you feel? I'd like that. I'd love it, man.

But if I saw you. I'd love it. Do you know what? I'm very competitive. So on the one hand, I enjoy being the best and I want to be the best, but I also love when people get stuff and do stuff. How about if you saw me and I was more Jack than you, but are you someone else's app? It's impossible.

It can't be done. Fair enough. It's an unrealistic question. Fairer. It would never happen. Yeah. But you know, I used to work in a school, yeah. And a school is any public sector job, it's rife with people that are just bitter.

And if someone does what they can't do, they're just, they're just, they're they complain. Like when I, before I left school I'd a period where my YouTube was doing quite well and I was having days

off school to go and do stuff and people would complain and you're like, what are you doing, mate? You're actually a loser. Do you mean? What did you teach?

What did you teach? What did you think I taught? He's a secondary peer, yeah. Well, I say that, I say that, mate, I say that. I taught something like my, like, so I taught an academy, right? So I was teaching like,

I'll be thrown in teaching. I did like bottom set year eight science. A comprehensive secondary school teaching bottom set year eight science. Fucking hell. That's tough, mate.

Yeah. No bunts and burners, perfect. So we did a module. We did a module on Bunsen Burners. No Bunsen burners. Do you mean? High kids say we're going to look at a picture of Bunsen's like what absolutely worst time.

Also doing like we did like if you do athletics like again. Bottom set year age, you've got 25, 11 year olds that have rough households and rough mates. They've all got a javelin. You're out on a field like that. If you can teach that mate. Yeah, you're good. Final question, Matt.

We ask everyone on this. What is it your partner? that does parenting wise it's amazing you look at her and go oh my god I'm so lucky to have you as a parent for my kids and what's the one thing she does if she was listening now annoys you a bit and she'd go yeah he's got a point there we're talking only parenting or just just parented or you can go you can just go in on a character if you want me okay okay so in terms of things like good things like things that I love I mean mate she's she she she I genuinely believe she's the best mom in existence she's she's fucking unreal everything's a competition

with you isn't she she is she objectively she is like her her Mother Teresa? Yeah. She's a good mother. She makes her like a piece of shit. She's honestly. She like, her level of like just, she just, I don't know, like she's just so selfless. Like she will do what, do you know what?

Do you know what I'm like? Give it a rest, mate. Do you know? You know, like all the, I'm good. I care. I do stuff. But it's like, you know, all the reading and the homework and the all the stuff. She cares so much.

I mean, she does. She puts so into the point where I, I like to think we both, we're a very good. We both contribute equally, right? But I know I could be gone for a week and they're going to be great, do you know what I mean? Like, she does show. She is like the best mum ever. Like she's so good, like, so good.

And then, right, now that's done. In terms of the other stuff. I mean, in a parenting sense, like, I don't know, like, not much. I think, you know what? I'm just going to, I'm going to air it now. Yeah. Just in a broader sense, she is messy, mate.

She's like, yeah. Unreasonably messy. Do you mean? She's like, so I'm like, so I'm very, when we first got together, we were like polar opposites, which I think works in a way. She's just a mess, right?

Whereas I'm like very organized, OCD, like, I think it's quite common with athletes. She's very like, a bit weird and a bit anal about stuff. Yeah. So like, and we kind of leveled each other out a bit, do I mean? But I mean, she's benefited with that

because she's now, do you know what I've lost out because I'm less organized now, so it's not a good thing for me. Anyway, I can trace, I can come into the house, right, after her, and I can trace her entire day. I'm like, oh, you came downstairs, you left your stuff there.

Then you had a coffee. out on the side. You made a sandwich. Every item you've used is just spread across the kitchen. Took his socks off because they're there there. Do you mean? Like every, because she, I think it's like, part of it is like she does multiple things at a time. I can't multitask. I start a thing and I finish it, then I move on. So she's like, she's like with a mental load of the kids. She's like, oh, I'm going to get a plate out. Oh, look at that bird over there. I go and look at, do you mean? Do you have a go to go over? Do you say, hey, can I share some of this load with you? I just giving up now, mate. You know what I mean, to be honest. Like, I like, I, I, like, I, I remind her, but,

That's how our relationship works. I just accept that because there's other, as a result of that, she does a lot of other good, did you know what I mean? So it's like, I'm the tidy up guy. And you're the annoying anal one with all the...

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But I'm trying to train the kids up because I think it's a useful skill to be, do you know what I mean? She's like losing things all the time. It's useful to like know where your stuff is. And you know what? Yeah.

But also, do you know what? Also, I think like it helps, so I used to be more like, kind of an o-C to an annoying level. You know what I mean? Right. be like, I touch her whatever and I've got to wash my hands

like that's not practical so I think it's good she levels it out in a nice way so I don't my boys to grow up and it's inconvenient do you mean you want to be clean you know let's be hygiene but also

you'll be weirdly washing your hands hopefully they get your body and her personality yeah I mean mate she's got a solid 9.5 out of 10 body to be yeah it's been amazing

thanks so much good luck at the book unlocking fitness I appreciate mate unlocking what's it called unlocking fitness What's it called? Fitness Unlocked.

Parenting Heaven. I hope it goes, overgoes world. It's absolutely butcher. Worst research team ever. There is no team. We haven't got a research team. Fitness unlocked.

That's the worst name ever. Oh yeah, because it's fucking world different to what it is called. Fitness Unlocked. Why about why do you give me a fucking memorable name? I remember. Thanks. Thanks. Cheers, mate.

Thank you so much. Good luck with the book. Thank you very much. Matt Morcia. Loved it. What a guy. Absolutely loved him. disappointed he was in his normal clothes.

Yeah, exactly. I wanted to see him sat there in a leotard. It would have been weird. They make them do that on Sunday brunch. Do you know what's interesting is the old gladiators used to never be allowed to be themselves? Well, I think they still do that a bit, but I think they're losing it a bit TV because everyone knows Matt Moore's here is also like an Instagram fitness. Well, that's actually on some weeks gets more views than gladiators. Well, welcome to the new world.

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