Parenting Hell with Rob Beckett and Josh Widdicombe - S12 EP44: Jack Savoretti

Episode Date: June 5, 2026

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You're listening to Parenting Hell with Archie, can you see Rob Beckett? Rob Beckett. Yep, and can you say Josh Whittickham? No. Josh Whitacom?

No! Why? Go on. Do you want your juice? Yeah. Josh. You can you say it? Oh.

Rody, can you say Josh Whittacom? J. Huh? Jish. That's close. That was close. can have that class on. There we go.

Scottish. Edinburgh. Very Scottish. This is my three-old Archie, my one-year-old Rory. Both classic Scotch. Scotch. Scotch. They don't like me in Scotch.

Sweaty sock jocks. That's what they like. This is my three-year-old Archie, one-year-old Rory, trying to say your names. According to my mum, Archie has taken after me with his stubbornness at doing what he's asked. But I think he smashed Rob. unexpectedly chimed in with Josh, even though he could only say about three words. Love the podcast, they keep me saying when I get a dog walk with a baby nap. Oh, that's a good time. Fiona in Edinburgh.

I'm so hard having a dog when you've got a baby. Get dogs after babies, not before. Jesus. Jesus. Jesus. Jesus. So. Jack Savaretti. So good looking.

Very handsome guy. Is he going to be the fittest man we've ever interviewed? Oh no, we did David Gandhi, didn't we? True, but... It's literally his job. I know. Savar... Yeah, true, maybe not.

But nice guy. I met him on Graham Norton. Very nice guy. Savareti. Savareti. I think he might be plugging... Is he doing Royal... I think he's doing the Royal Albert Hall.

But yeah, he's really nice guy. Oh, nice. Yeah. Yeah. Did he sit there the whole time, or did he join after he played his song? Joined after he played his song, which I always feel sorry for them, because they're always like just a bit hot or busy and then they're straight.

The last thing they need. Because they're right in the zone of performing. and then all of a sudden they're just there where like loads of people staring at them because it's not like the other chat where everyone takes a bit of turn. It's like all on you now, Savaretti. Yeah.

But I was jealous of him. Yeah? I really want to tell people that I'm half Italian and then go to Italy and drink coffee in a square. He's got an even more Italian name than Jack Savaretti. And he? Giovanni Edgar Charles Galletto Savareti. Oh, give me a couple of them names, will you, Jack?

Kid up. Oh. I'd love that. Well, show you know. My name's Gian Luigi. Beckett. Beckett. Beckett.

I want to go to watch Genoa play football with Jack Savaretti. Why don't you ask him? I'm going to say that to him. How are you so sexy? How's the music going? How are the kids? Can I come and watch Genoa play? Perfect.

Where is Genoa? Genoa. Sam Doria from Genoa, aren't they? I think it's North. All the best football teams are North, aren't they, generally? I think so. Napoli. I think in Italy, that's where like the posh.

The posh money's up north. The posh money's up north in Italy. They look down on the south. And they look down on the boot. Yeah, they do. Let's get into Italian politics with Jack Severi. Jack Severity, welcome to the podcast. Thanks for having me, guys.

Now, obviously, we're just all getting on so well that we just started chatting. I didn't realize we'd started. No. That's how good we are. It's been a great show. Yeah, yeah. I met you on Graham Norton. Yeah.

But full rundown. Three kids. Three kids. How many, what did you say, dogs and cats? Four dogs. And now we've sort of inherited a cat, not inherited a cat. A cat chose us as they... Even though you've got four dogs?

Even though we got four dogs, which is impressive. And it took her a while. She's somebody to abandon her. She's a beautiful cat. I'm not a cat person, but she's a beautiful cat. I'm a cat person. And you've got four dogs. It took her six months.

I built her like a little chalet meow meow I call it. It's like a little cat house outside. It's like a little log cabin for cats. Oh, wow. And so she started staying in there. And now that it's sort of spring and we have, the doors open, she started to sort of come in. And the dogs aren't bothering her?

The dogs are a little bit scared of her. What dogs you got? I've got a border collie and then we have three coca poos. I said small dogs. No, the border collie is quite big. She's quite big. She's sort of my soulmate. Massive.

Not that big. Big for a dog, though. Too big for a dog. We just sort of walked to get everywhere together. She's my soulmate. And then the other three are just pretty hectic. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So you haven't got a favour of the dogs, too much?

Yeah, I definitely have a favorite with the dog. So you had the border collie first, and then the cockapoo's came second? No, we had a cockapoo, and then she had puppies, and then we fell in love with all the puppies, so it kept them. Oh. Great idea. And then the border collie actually belonged to a friend of mine, but he had a few troubles with drugs, substances, and all that, and ended up sort of in hospital, and this dog was just sort of abandoned. And I ended up going to take her, and she was pretty nuts. She was living in a pretty wild environment.

Oh, God. And wasn't the best idea. we had just had our third daughter, she was like six months, and I took this dog home, and I realized probably can't keep this dog. But actually, border collies are unreal with their intelligence. Yeah. And she just read the room like nobody's business. And she just learned how to sort of move around and mind her own business.

Really? Oh, wow. It was also the time where I had just lost my father. So it was like, it was very needed to have this kind of support. What a period. It was a hell of a guy. It's like the podcast equivalent of Uncut Jens. Can't stop blinking.

I'm still trying to process the cockapoo's pregnancy. Which happened on New Year's Day of all days. My wife delivered them. She learned from YouTube. I mean, a lot of people are going to get angry at us because this isn't the way to do it. My aunt's a dog breed and was furious at us for doing this. But we did it out of love. But did you know she was pregnant?

Would you try to get the dog pregnant? We were because my wife and I had two different midlife crises. It's all coming out very quickly. Yeah, we're good at this, aren't we? Keep going, Jack. But basically... Cry when you want. It's going to happen.

No, but basically my wife's midlife crisis was really amplified by her fear of our dog dying. That sort of became Maggie, who is the original, like the dog we've had for, now she's 15, 60. Blimey. So she was very connected to this dog. Very connected. And she was like, before she, while she still can, let's breed her. So that we'll always have Maggie in our lives in some shape or form. Okay, yeah.

It was very romantic, but it was madness. Yeah. turned into sort of Florence Nightingale delivering these dogs. Me and the kids downstairs hearing screams. No. So how many were delivered?

Three. Kittance? Yeah, that was. That's how bad a job she did. Never do this at home. No, three showed up. But a friend of us was living, was experiencing something terrible.

So she took one of them. And the other two, we fell in love. We were all arguing with which we were going to keep. Oh, yeah. It's only going one way, isn't it? Yeah. So I'm trying to just get my head around. So we've got the, what was your middle life crisis then?

Because if hers was breeding the dog. My midlife crisis was making this album. That's how I dealt with it. Let's make another album. It sounds like a very busy household. It's hectic. All the dog, all that, because if you've got, how old are the kids? 14, 11 and 5.

So that's, yes, that's a busy age from like young school kid up to like teenagers going to GCSEs. And now all these dogs, you've written an album, you're going on the tall. About the whole thing. It was the only time I could be alone was I'm writing, like leave me alone. No, I think my midlife crisis was literally on my 40th birthday. I sort of lived a dream. We were in Italy in a place called Portofina, the most beautiful place in the world. Everybody I loved was there, friends and family.

And I just had a real, like, why are all these people here? Do they know who I am? Do I know them? One of these existential, like, what is all of this? In a sort of way, feeling kind of, like, very fortunate, but also, like, sort of guilty about the whole thing. I was like, how is this possible? What do I do with all of this? And then I also realized I could throw a grenade into my whole life here.

Like what would happen if I just completely flip this upside down? And just that realization was terrifying that that is possible. Like one decision, one choice. Yeah, yeah. You can flip this sort of course, yeah. I just haven't really thought about that from now. Yeah. Now that's never leaving.

I'll just breed your dog instead. Do you have no thoughts like that wrong? No, not until you put it in my head, but you're right. I have thought sometimes when I'm doing live TV or live radio and just think I could say something awful now. And it would all go wrong. And it's all over like that. Almost like Thanos.

Yeah, the naïti of you disappears and you suddenly realize your choices matter. Like they've gotten you this far as well. You sort of give yourself a pat on the back because you're like, actually, I've made some great choices. So it was a positive thing as well as a confusing thing that. Well, it was once I realized, wow, I've made great choices. I was like, oh, my choices do matter.

Yeah. That's that sort of realistic. to carry on the right choice. Once you realize the value of your heart. You will be out of final problem in a, you know, chilled situation. It's great for some rate. It feels like a waste of money this birthday. Yeah.

Feels like a lot of money spent on quite a negative experience. No, I'm, I'm Jeremy's in a time. I got a lot of favors. There's a lot of strings for that point. I could never have afforded that party. Why, I was reading your Wikipedia name and you're not called Jack. No, I've always been called Jack. Like, my mother's called me Jack, but on my passport, I'm Giovanni.

Giovanni. after my grandfather. Because I was born in London, my mother's English, and she was just like, Giovanni's going to be a tough one. Ah, right. But, you know, especially, like, early 80s. She was just like, she wasn't crazy. She just wanted to Jack.

Because I thought you'd picked a less spectacular stage name. I thought you'd go, like, I'm one of the only people who's down, don't down their name for the stage. No, I've been asked to change my name. I've been asked to change my last name a lot in the music business. Really? I'd have thought it's a cell.

I agree. I think it's interesting. It's also just who I am. It is what it is. But I've been told, I've got one executive said, if you keep your name, we'll have to put you in the world music section. I hate the term world music already. It's just music, isn't it?

It's just music, not in English, but yeah, that was an interesting. It happened a few times. What name did you toy with? Did you ever consider? Was there right? It was there a short list? No, he did suggest Sav or Savo or something like. Jack Sav.

Jack Sav. Sounds like a criminal from the 50s. I mean. Jack Sav used to work with a craze. I mean, to be fair, Jack Sava Reddy sounds like a criminal. Yeah, Jack the hat. So that sort of mid-life crisis realization, then you wrote the album off the back of that, basically. Is that what was the motivating?

It didn't manifest in anything else other than the album with, like, decisions of, you know. No, not really. Well, I mean, it had just come from a period where I had lost my father. We'd just had a third child sort of thing. We were coming through that, which was also a shock to the system. Because, let's just say, Celeste, number three, but Celeste. It was a surprise. It was very much like we were sort of out on the other side.

Six year gap. Yeah, 10 year with the eldest. Oh God, yes. That's a long, yeah. It was a long time and we were starting to find ourselves again and starting to just, it was just things were changing. My wife and I were starting to hang out a lot more. Yeah, of course.

Hence what happened. Too much time together. It's been very good. It's happened again. But, I mean, it was the best thing. happened to us and I'm going to throw that cliche out there because it is. Oh of course it yeah it's just but it can be a shock at the time it was a real shock my wife was very happy she was really happy it was a bit like the same again I mean she might not like me saying this but

it was a bit with her midlife crisis the same thing with maggie the dog like keeping her alive this was another thing yeah because it's another baby her own moment of questioning time and is there time for one more could I do this again should we have another one she was very much in that mentality I really wasn't I mean It was just during COVID as well. And it was during the lockdown where finally the world did stop. I mean, I hate saying that

because it wasn't a great time for people. But for me personally, it was really nice to stop and to not have that sense of guilt for stopping. Yes. Or worry it was taken out of your control. Exactly. Boy, that somebody else was doing what I should have been doing and all that.

It was like, no, everything stopped so you can actually turn off now. And when that happened, I was like, I was tired. I realized that was actually really tired. And when this, so when we got pregnant, And again, I was like, oh, man, I've got to go back to work. This is going to be tough. But luckily, it's actually been the best source of inspiration for that.

Yeah. For both of us, for my wife and I. And what does she do? She's an artist. She was an actress. Yeah. And then during, she's always been an incredible artist. Yeah.

But she had focused mainly on her acting and done some amazing films, worked with Tim Burton, Francoisle was on, done some great stuff. But then during lockdown, again, there was a real, she realized I don't want to go back out there. I think she had just had her time. Getting the job and being rejected was becoming more. I think it's horrible. It's brutal acting.

That becomes kind of the craft surviving that. Do you know what? You so rarely get it in our job where you are up for something. And there's a list of people or you don't know the list of people, but you have to go along and you have to audition. I don't know. It's so rare. Yeah.

And then you'd have to watch whoever got the job. And your whole. life, if you're an actor, is presumably lived in just this kind of edge of will I get that? What if I get that? When do I find out about that? I've got a call back. I wonder how many people have got a call back. All of that.

I don't know how every actor isn't insane. A lot of them are. The worst part of a normal job, like when I worked in an office job, the worst part of working office job is going for job interviews and your first day at work. And that's essentially all acting is. time.

It's going for the interview and then being there for a day and moving on. I understand. I mean, there is a buzz if you do get the job. Yeah. And that was becoming more of her, like she was very, becoming quite competitive. And I think the craft was taking her back seat. And that's when she was like, this is not good. She didn't like that feeling.

It was no longer about the craft of acting. It was the craft of like the audition getting the job, which is part of it. Don't get me wrong. Yeah, of course. I think that's when she was just like done with that. And so she wanted to, I think, really master. a craft again in creation and art was

there. Suddenly she was in charge. She was the one that could just make things come to life from nothing. And she's a ridiculously prolific, wonderful and successful artist. So that was an interesting switch for both of us as well. How does she find you going back on tour then? Because obviously I'd lock down her together.

Really? I think for multiple reasons. First it means I'm still working which is a nice thing. But also I think we've always had that in our relationship. We've been together. other 22 years. So that distance makes the heart go fonder. It keeps us incredibly like, you know, the choice of being in love rather than it's easy

to be in love when everything's hunky dory. But to choose it when things are, when there's a struggle and all that. I think that the touring and being away from each other makes you feel like you're sort of fighting and holding onto something again. And it does, it is incredibly bonding for us. Do you find that, Rob? Well, it's different for comedians, isn't it? Because we go to like Doncaster for the night and drive-home.

I'm not. Exactly. No, but with music, when you tour abroad, like you tour abroad a lot more, and you're away for six weeks, nonstop, where comedy really is, like, it's like two or three nights like. I'll be back and I'll do the school run, but then I'm going to Leeds. Yeah, but I have to be honest, I've, me personally have been able to build much more of that. Oh, that's good. That's good.

Not that choice, by lack of success, maybe also. I do, I don't really have, like, I'm never away from, like two weeks is kind of the limit. Yeah, I can't do any more than that, because especially with the kids. Totally. I don't like it. I don't like what. I get too detached. They get almost too detached as well.

They sort of like just move on without you. They're not running to say hello anymore and all that. So it becomes a bit. Two weeks is the most. Yeah, I think that's a good decision. This podcast is brought to you by Gemini, Google's personal AI assistant. We're pretty good friends now, aren't we, Josh, wouldn't you say? Despite the rumors.

Yeah, we're still going strong. But we don't always agree. That's what a good friendship is built on. We are different. We have different views on things. But we are going to use that. to settle some debates we've had, bubbling along, using Gemini.

So a good one is we have different approaches if our kids won't leave the play park. You're in the park. It's 4.30 on a Saturday. You just want to get the kids out of the play park to get home. They're refusing to go. Yeah. How are you getting them out?

Well, it's difficult because they're getting older now. It's become a slightly more psychological warfare. When they were younger, whatever you say, they ignore you and run away. Then they get a little bit older where you go, no, you need to come now and the stern voice makes them go, oh, I will, Dad.

So what do you do? I don't know if this is great. I sort of go, well, I'm going. Oh, yeah. And then I go to walk out the park and then almost make them believe they'll be left.

Yeah, it's a classic. And then they end up bottling it and go, no, I'll come as well, dad. So I'm going to walk out, not looking at them, turn the corner, hope for the best. Okay, do you know what my tactic is? By the way, for the record, I'm not actually leaving them. They're in full sight the whole time.

Yeah, of course. But I can't let them see me. What I do? Yeah. It's bad. I'll buy them off with ice cream, Rob. I know I do it. Yeah, because everyone's a winner then.

Yeah. They won't finish it. I'll get ice cream as well. So it's a win, win, win. To be fair, that walking out the park thinks only knew as they've got older, but what I would do when they're younger, just pick them up and carry them out. Let's see what Gemini thinks is the best way to deal with it. So all I do, get my phone out.

Yeah. Click on the Gemini app. Here we go. I'll just ask the question. Could you settle a debate for us? When your kids are in the park at the weekend, the play park, and they won't leave, leave, what's the best way to get them out? Is it to carry them over your shoulder or is it to buy them off with ice cream? That's a classic parents dilemma. Both of these methods can definitely have a practical effect, but maybe not the best long term.

Carrying them off can feel like you're taking control, but it doesn't really teach them how to move on to the next thing. And buying them off with ice cream could get you into a pattern where they always expect a reward for leaving. A lot of people find success with giving warnings like a five minute warning. before we leave or making the transition fun like let's race to the car race to the car is a great idea yes that's better than owls yeah okay let's try something else here this is a situation i get myself in quite a lot hello jemini um basically all i've got is some plain pasta i've got some pesto i've got a couple of like wilted carrots and a pack of mints help me create some sort of hidden veg recipe that i can cook in 20 minutes and the kids they're actually going to eat you can quickly gray

the carrots and mince them with the meat. Fry the mints, add the grated carrots, and mix in your pesto with the cooked pasta. The finely grated carrot will blend in with the mints and the pesto will add a strong flavour the kids might love. Does that sound like something they'd eat? Sounds like someone I'd eat.

And I'm vegetarian. You've got two sold guys here, Gemina? That's a great idea, thank you. That's really good. Really helpful. Great here, make it look like mince. And they're gobbling up carrot and they don't even know?

Exactly, Rob. Until they start seeing in the dark, then they'll be suspicious. Someone's been sneaking carrot in my dinner. Do you know what? That was genuine impressive, and those are solutions I would use myself. If you're listening, you've got your own parenting problems that you want to ask Gemini. Give it a go and let us know what solutions it comes up with. Download the app today to unlock the power of Google AI on your phone.

Sequences shortened, check responses, setup required, compatibility and availability varies. 18 plus. Does it feel different? going back out when you've got kids to... Yeah. I think it's getting harder, actually, if I'm totally honest. Like, just because parenting is getting so much cooler. Yeah.

At your age, like, I love it. And also, when the first time around, you know, you've got a sort of six-month-old kid in your hand, and you're like, this is it forever. You don't realize how quickly time flies. You don't realize how quickly that six-month-old is wanting to spend the weekend with friends and not answering your text messages. When you're like, where are you?

Like, suddenly that's... That's gone, that moment of like, is gone. And so now, I mean, I feel sort of sorry for my daughter because I am like properly like holding on to every moment I can with her because I know how quickly this goes. So I think that the absence. I literally felt like, you know, me not like a film and a soul leaves a body. Oh, no.

Should we go back to having all your friends there and thinking one decision could ruin it all? I mean, you're laughing a lot for someone who's really bringing some dark thoughts into the room. That's why he's good to sing a songwriter. This is like my therapy. I'm giggling.

Am I allowed to call you a singer songwriter? Is that allowed? Is that not? It's world music, couldn't it? Don't have a go in because what he said made you question your own. I've made one world music album in a time.

The rest is in English. No, I mean, I'm a very jolly person. I only write a sad song so I don't usually write one. This is an interesting thing. I think the darkest comedians are often the lightest offstage,

right yeah and the light fluffy ones are the ones that the real yeah yeah cover up a kind of a deep what you're trying to say well what i'm trying to say is like chris martin's quite a laugh from what i can tell but he's quite sad in his songs or whatever is there a lot of people that do sad music but they're actually quite a laugh is that in my experience 100% yeah i i think i'm gonnae is a good example luis capowd is a good example actually i always find some it's the same thing the ones that are making all the jolly sort of stuff like that there's a darkness to them that you yeah yeah obviously don't want you to see they're yeah totally yeah yeah for me it's always been a bit like that I remember when I started to provide an example of that person

no because I know them one of them I know my well no I would never do that but when I started out for example I used to I mean all the guy some of the guys that I really admired they were all very quiet and somber on stage they wouldn't say much in between songs and I remember when I started out I used to sort of imitate that And it was actually my wife who was like, what the fuck is that? Like, that's not you. Yeah, yeah. You're the guy who doesn't shut up and like, as loud, I can hear you laughing from four

bars away. Why aren't you doing that? And actually, once I got comfortable with just being that, I think the songwriting got better, finally enough, because I didn't have to sort of, I don't know, I was able to put it there and it didn't entirely define me. Like, that's just a part of myself. It wasn't my everything. There isn't almost a shame with musicians to being a laugh.

Yeah, you got to be cool. But like, do you like CMAT? Like she, CEMAT is now, she had Harry Hill on stage when she did Alexander Pallis. She's really funny. She does, and it's the same with Lewis Capaldi. There's totally this thing now where I think people are going, oh, I can be funny, and it doesn't undermine the music.

I also think we know more about artists now. Like, I think back in the day there wasn't that much known, but they were actually like that. Like Leonard Cohen was hilarious. Right. Leonard Cohen. Yeah, well, that's a perfect example, right? And I don't know if you've seen the documentary on him.

It's fantastic. Like he's very witty, very social. You never think that. You think this is what you're like. David Bowie's really normal. Whenever you see David Bowie interviewed, you're like, I was like a really normal brother. That just dresses up and perform.

I love his interviews. But they were back in the day, they were trying to trip him up all the time because he was doing something so different. You must be weird. And he was so good at it's going, no, I'm all right, no. Brilliant. I love Bowie.

Big boy. But that's definitely, I think, something that now that we know more about those artists even from that time yeah you don't have that weight of having to keep up appearances by being cool and quiet yeah can i ask you about the graham norton show yeah because we did that together thank god you were there man did you did you think he had as bad a one as he worried to do what do you mean he's too nice for that he's trying to pretend i had a badge gig no no it's all right no but when he's sitting next to a naughty school kid like you kept making me laugh i was trying to be cool on that so far i was like okay be cool

Who was on? Who was it? Was it? So, was it Chris Pratt, Cynthia Arivo, Dawn French, me, then you? Yeah. Right. It's a classic dinner pie.

You would have met up anyway. Well, actually, it's my dream dinner guest party that I'd ask for the week before and just happened. No, because, as a comedian, you're on at the end to try and light in the mood and be the bit of the joke when they've got their sort of like film stars, mega stars, come on.

But it's weird though for the musicians because you're like not involved at all, then you sing your, you know, you do your song, and it's very hard to do those songs in a studio audience with TV. Go, like, yeah, one, two, three. Yeah, and it's every single person I've seen ever do it. They're doing it and they're doing really well,

but it's not like a normal gig. You're playing for the environment. And then you sort of have to do it twice. They make everyone do it twice. You do it once and do it, and I've one for cameras or whatever. And then they go, right, welcome over. Jack Savaray. So we've been there for like two hours.

It's like being laid to a party where everyone's getting along. You're all out of breath because you've been performing. I'm sweating. And then you shuffle over me, like, hello. And it's so hard. So, which you're just. What are you thinking about when you're stood backstage thinking fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck I've got to do the song in the studio or you're thinking fuck fuck fuck I've got to go and talk to them? No no the song is easy. It's not easy. Don't get me wrong. But you hope it is what it is. You can't go back now. That is what it is. It's the like please say something a little bit. So that's hanging over the song. That's hanging over the song. Also because some you talk about Kapal there, some guys are amazing.

at it. They'll come and they'll drop that bomb that they know will, you know, it'll do something. The viral or, you know, that's all they want. Yeah, but they're good at it. Can you say something to go viral? Exactly. That's what they kept. No, otherwise I'd be doing it all the time. But I've never had that until this time. They kept saying, just say something that maybe go viral. I was like, what was that? Yeah, twice before I went on. I was like, if I knew how to do that, I wouldn't have to be here. 100%. So I did Claudia recently, Claudia Winchon show, and the American person who is always depends on. Yeah. who was the guy from Schitts Creek, who is called...

Oh, I saw this about Mr. Blob. Yeah, Mr. Plop. Yeah, he was such a laugh. Yeah, he's great. Everyone's like, ah. 100%. Ah, just relax. I think the best thing to do on those shows is to just have a laugh.

Of course. To try not to... I think when I was really young and I went on them, I would try to be very serious and whatever. Yeah. And nothing comes, like, you sort of just... No one wants you to be serious. No one wants really, yeah, doesn't really work.

I want to sit through an incredibly long chat about shaking. Shakespeare and I thought no one's getting anything like this. This isn't going to help my career. I did Jennifer Ross ones and I never normally drink on them things but it's sort of gone quite well and they went do you want to drink? Oh yeah can I get a rum and Coke zero whatever and then there was loads of breaks so they kept them bringing me a new one I was drinking them and then I was so pissed geran geran come on. Oh great and I was just looking at it and I was like I didn't know I couldn't they all look like the same man of course they do they all the same man from 30 years ago but they were like

they were trying to talk to him and I was just like they were trying to talk to and I was just like I nearly called a bloke Duran Duranara. But then that's horrible when you're in that situation because you feel so vulnerable because you're like, you don't want to be drunk. I had that last time on Norton. I stupidly had like a whiskey. Oh, really?

And I just, I think I sat down next to it. I just took it, boom, like that. But that's one. I had about six. Yeah, but it's the adrenaline. Yeah, and the adrenaline from the... I was going to ask about, you know, busy household, a lot of kids and different ages of kids.

And you've got the dogs, which it sounds like you both love. Care up more than the kids, from what I can tell. I don't about care, but hang out with them. At least they're there. They're there. So what are you doing for holidays? Are you leaving the dogs with people? Going on door.

No, the dogs, we have a lovely neighbour who basically moves in and likes to stays with them. And their dogs are almost as happy, if not happier, because they just get 100% of their attention. You can imagine. Sometimes a dog is hiding from the chaos. But no, it's all good. And then the kids, when you're like picking a holiday, are you trying to, you know, because it's hard to keep a teenager happy and a five-year-old. Well, so now what we do, like, the one thing that I've really tried to bring in

is reminding the kids where they're from. So it's about spending time in Italy. Yeah. And we always do, like, now rather than, we did a few, I remember when sort of my career started doing okay and we had kids, we did the super, like, far, long holidays, getting on a plane, going to an island, whatever. And we were noticing that we were spending a fortune to get somewhere for, like, four days.

two days of which was jet lag the other was like packing to leave again and then coming home and feeling it was amazing but we were like there's no longevity in this I don't feel like we really experienced anywhere either we didn't sort of see anything else but a hotel A result and a beach yet exactly

so now what we tried to do every year is we go one month it's a little island called Formintero which is just next to Ibita you can only get to it by boat and we go for one month and I just watch my children transform like the first week there

you know tourists and then like by week two week suddenly their whole attitude just changes. Like they really sort of just become locals. They just at ease. And I love that. And every year I ask them if they want to do something different and that's now, they've got friends there now.

Like they know where to go. My 14 year old can go to the local village and she can walk back at night by herself and with friends and all that. So just a bit of another experience. Yeah, it really is. I have to say. But that's Spanish. It's Spanish but filled with Italians. Oh, really?

Yeah. Fulmenteros like Italians have sort of take it over. Yeah, they definitely have yoga. Who'd your kids support in the World Cup? Well, I don't know. Oh, God. I didn't mean that. That's horrible.

In the hype for that, no. It was never called a five for the World Cup. Sorry, in the Nations League. This is getting cold, my son has never seen Italy in a World Cup. Oh, my God. He's seen us three in a row. So we could talk about the Euros if you want.

Yeah, so what happened in the Euro? The Euros was make or break. He was five. Yeah. All his mates were suddenly showing up to school with the England. And he was like, my son, he talks like a gangster. He's got this like, he's got this really husky voice.

I don't know where he gets. And he was like, Papa, what, you know, everyone's going for England. I think Italy is going to lose. Everyone says England are going to win. And in England, you do talk about England winning a lot before the game. Like, that is the thing. And I was like, don't worry, don't worry. Anyway, we sat down to watch the game and it was me and my son in Italy jerseys.

And my wife and my daughter in England jerseys with the flags of St. George and that she, they really went to town. Yeah. Painted around about. The full shabang. Almost. And then England scored first. She was the woman that flower for us, his wife.

Sounds like. I wouldn't put it past that. And then England scored first. And my son gave me this look of like, what are you doing today? Why have you done this to me? Anyway, we all know how that went. Yeah.

And he was super happy. He's been Italy. So do you think if England had gone on to win that as they did? deserve to. I think I would have lost him. Then you would have lost him. I do and that was really heartbreaking because like you inherit your national team like I'm go freely because my dad was Italian and I remember Italy 1990. Yeah. And it was a great England team too with Linnick and I had Scilachi and all that and it was just I remember that moment me I remember being conflicted as well I was going to school I was living in London and my dad was like this isn't an option

like we watch it yeah and you just bond and that's the thing that's heartbreaking about not being in the World Cup again for a whole generation we haven't had that body when there's 48 teams it's very difficult to get in isn't it? I mean you've been going for him since he mentioned that thing about his

daughter being young and your soul left your body you've said his wife's got a flirt for us now you're having to go about this that was a gamble and you're a Genoa fan as well a big Genoa fan as well have you passed that on I've passed that on the first game he took

it was last year two years ago we were in CEDA and we were playing, I was in Milan actually on a work thing, and everyone was coming up to me saying, oh, tomorrow, Jen was going to get promoted, Jen was going to get promoted, might have had a few too many drinks. I phoned my father in a while, I was like, listen, if I get you guys a plane,

would you fly winters, my son, he's called Winter. Would you fly winter out tomorrow morning to see Jeremy play? Oh, wow. And they flew out at like five in the morning, they arrived, we were treated like, because I did a song at the stadium, so I have a strong connection with the team. This was the first football game he'd ever been to.

Wow. And Manasi, the Geno Stadium is amazing. It was built for 1990. And we got there, we won, pitch and beige. So he's a general fan as well, but we're a goodness. Jack, can you take me to watch Genoa play? I promise you we should do that.

It's unreal. It's very different to hear. I mean, Italian football is going down, but Italian fans are... I think also our age, Italian football was on Channel 4. Remember when it was good. Yeah, yeah.

And it was the best football there was. So we've got an idealized view that we'll always have of Italian football is the best. It's still, You still get the vibe. It's just the quality of the football. I've got an idea.

Why don't we do the first ever parent in hell on tour video and we get it and we film it and we do a little film with us going to watch General Play with Jack? You know, it's a good thing because a lot of kids go to... Or we fuck that off and just get shit face over. I was trying to back you up. Yeah, no, no. No, that sounds like pain in the ass.

We'll just go. We'll just go. Also because stadiums in Italy, I mean, they're not super kid friendly. No. I mean, they are. They're terrifying. So do you take your son? Have you taken them since?

No, I haven't taken them since. Do you go Arsenal or just watching Arsenal? We've gone to Arsenal. We've gone to Arsenal a few times. Yeah, but he was like properly spoiled with Arsenal. Did he have a bit too much of a, you know, VIP experience? Very VIP experience. Thanks to my Spanish tour manager, we were actually just rehearsing.

It was a couple weeks ago. It was to go see Arsenal Everton. A great game. The Max Dalman. Yeah, the Max Dalman moment. And we were right there. Anything you want to say about that? Shit on that kid's dream?

I don't know what the Max Dalman moment is. He came on. He was the 16-year-old scored. Yeah, and he came on and set up a goal and then he scored. He changed the game. Yeah. In the 86 minute, after 86 minutes, a pretty dull this part of the season, Arsenal football, which hasn't been great. This kid came on.

But I was there, we were there in Arteta's wife's box. Wow. Wow. Was there a flare in there as well? Sorry. Fuck. We're going to have to go out of my husband. What's Arteta's wife like?

I didn't meet her. I have met her once. I can't imagine. What's her box like? I can't imagine he's a laugh to be married to. Sorry. I'm sorry, Jack. Can you imagine?

He's intense. Those great trousers clinging onto his arsole like a fucking cliff climber's fingertips. There's no way, Mikhail Artetta on this would be a laugh. Oh. He's actually doing a barbecue. Shouting at it. Move, boof. Attack the space sausage.

He got him. I have not met him, but me and my wife had a really embarrassing moment where we live out in Oxfordshire. And we were having sushi and Arteta. and his wife sat right next to us. And my wife and I were just like, my wife didn't really understand, but I was like sort of smiling. They kept sort of staring and sort of talking.

Yeah. And I was, and I walked off, I was like, that was Michael Art Tet and his wife. She didn't even know who I was talking about. I was like, I think he might have like recognized me of something

because they were chatting away. And as I'm talking to my wife, I suddenly like, it just suddenly clicked. Both of us were wearing arsenal caps. Really? Yeah, but they're like sort of vintage one. Oh,

so I hadn't really like clocked. And I was like, oh my God, that's why they were looking at us because we were like two prats. Just sat next to there. Both in an arsenal. Both are like different colored arsenal. Right.

That's pretty tragic to begin with. I mean, if I'm not something we usually do. Well, yeah, I wanted to say that if I was leaving the house with blue to go for sushi. So far mouse, we were both wearing matching caps. I'd go, shall I take mine off? You think one of us would have taken it off? Yeah. I've got a blue one.

She's got a burgundy, whatever. Yeah. It's matching. It's like I said, you love each other. Like I said, it was an embarrassing. Well, you think he's into my music. He's just got. Must be a fan.

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bilingual? No. No. I didn't do very well with that. I kind of dropped the ball on that. It's hard. Too late. You've got enough on your plate.

You're knackered. You're like, I don't want to speak, teach them a whole language. Also because, yeah, there is a bit of that. I've had four hours sleep. Please, I can't be the teacher, the tutor as well. No, but you also feel rude. Yeah. Like when we lived in London, it was okay-ish, because I had some Italian friends in London and all that.

But in the countryside, you really feel like you're making a point. Yeah. Yeah. And it's like, and the kids look at you like, what, don't do this to me? It's more confusing. I saw a family on holiday like that, and there was an English guy, and I think she was Dutch or German. And he spoke to them in English, and the kid spoke back to him in English. And then the wife spoke to them in Dutch or German, and they spoke back to her in Dutch or German.

I do think they call it mother tongue for a reason. Like I think when my like friends of mine with couples, bilingual couple. So she was full. No. Yeah, I'm blaming my wife. Well, my English wife. She can't speak Italian. Yeah, it's tough for her to teach it then.

I think exactly. That's what I always say. But I'm like if she, we did like when we do go to Italy and my wife does start trying to speak Italian, you can see the kids suddenly engage with it. Like much more than if I'm doing it. Like it's taken sort of as it is what it is if Papa speaks it. But friends of mine who are bilingual. Your Papa? Papa.

That's cool, no. Yeah, Papa. I want to be Papa. What are you? How can I read around to Papa? Dad. Dad's lovely too. No, I want to be Papa.

Papa's lovely. It's softer. Why didn't you just go home and say I'm now Papa? I'm the artist for me and own as Dad. All right. They're going to go to Big Papa's home. Big Papa, they're not Big Papa's weird. I'm not going to laugh.

Little Papa? Little Papa's even weird. Just Papa? Just straight on. Mama. Mama. Mama. Mama.

Mama. Mama. Papa Mama. Actually, my little one right now keeps trying to say, when she's trying to be cute, she says, daddy daddy daddy and I just don't you don't respond I don't respond I call shoulder the crap I'm like I'm not I'm papa I'm papa and if when you're if they have kids you become a grandparent what's what I'll probably still be papa just papa probably because they'll probably call their I don't know they depends who they marry I don't know what language of who they marry

because it's a language thing yeah of course yeah I don't know why I because if you English kid makes an English woman and then as an English kid it's probably going to be dad dad yeah I mean it'd be I don't I do have a double down on Papa. Double down on Papa. Without asking. Why don't you call me Papa? Can we start there? And then I can bring it into my home life.

We'll start at work. All right. Have you got the final question, Papa? We're not there yet. Quick question. Have you gone for Italian names? No. Well, Connie, my eldest, I was listening to a lot of Connie Francis.

I don't know if you know, she's like an old American Italian singer. And I also, I didn't realize. I just thought it would be quite funny. Connie Corleone from the Godfather. I always love the name. Connie. Yeah, it's one of those things. So my eldest is called Connie. My son is called winter. Which you don't have in Italy. Which we don't. When we're doing

somebody. I don't do. Do you know what? I was always surprised at Italian football how bad the weather was. And there's the snow around the edge. I'd be like, we're in the Alps, eh? I know, but we're thick English. But it was always raining at the San Cero. No, Milan is the worst climate. Yeah. London is a better climate than Milano because Milan is in the valley after the Alps. Yeah. Right. So it's just fog, like stuff gets stuck there. Like, they have such bad smog.

There's no, like, breathe or nothing. I didn't like Milan when I went. I went for 24 hours. When? It's the best way to experience it. 24 hours, second of January. Don't like it. With Freddie Flint off, Jamie Reddnep and Jerry Halley well.

That was, I was supposed to be going to that. League of the Road. League of the Road. Yeah. You took a penalty at San Ciro. I took a penalty of San Ciro. That was fun. Against Bruce Grogelon.

I was supposed to be doing it, but I broke my ankle and he got the gig. talking about acting jobs. Oh, was it the five of us? That is very cool. I was quite pleased because I didn't really know the other three but Rob was my way in so when Rob broke his ankle

I was like, oh my God. Anyway, I didn't really like Milan. I used to hate Milano growing up. I grew up quite near it like 45 minutes from it but now I go and it's a cool city like if I was in my early 20s Milan would be a cool place to go and live. So how are you a Genoa fan?

My family's from Genoa. Yeah. And whereabouts is that in relation? Genoa is just so if you're in Milano it's down to the way. It's basically just on the border with France. Oh, right. Nice. Where Christopher Columbus is from, the flag of St. George.

And who's their rival? Samdori. Samdori. So that's the game to go to. Well, no, because Samdoria now is in third division. They're third. And they're going even further. But they won the, do you remember Sam Dori winning the league?

I remember me. I met all the team. Did you want, Viali and Mancina? Oh, wow. Because I was in this little place called Portofino where I used to, We used to go when we were kids in the summer, and all the team showed up for dinner. Oh, wow.

And my father was like, what are you doing? And I was like, I'm going to go get autographs. He's like, it's some dirty. Don't go, no, don't go. Oh, really? I was like, pops. He was like, okay, go, go, go, go. Oh, that is it?

I got all their autographs somewhere. Lombardo, Paluca, Mancini. Oh, wow, what team? All those crazy guys. Do you cook Italian for your kids? Yeah, I do. Is that a big thing? I mean, they have a pretty, like,

I wouldn't say they have a pretty Italian lifestyle. But, like, what I love now, And this is something I've realized as they grow older. When we go to Italy, they're totally at ease, which is something I really, because I remember when my daughter was about six and my son was three, going to Italy,

and I just saw them like, they were like deers and headlight. And you wouldn't like that? No, not that I didn't like it. I was just like, oh, my kids are really English. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, it was just an interest. I hadn't really thought about it.

But then when we went to Italy, just how they approached, like in Italy, especially where I go, like, all the local people make quite a fuss about kids. Like when you arrive, an old lady will run out of a shop that's known me since I was five and like pick up my kids and like do a whole thing and see to kiss them and give them biscuits. A much like they did that in the UK. They're not used to that where they go to Chipping Norton like to the local.

Also that is the most English plate in England, Chipping Norton. Yeah, it really is. If you were in London, at least you could take them to little Italian restaurants. They get in line. But they're very like their country, like their country kids. They're sort of multiculturalism is still lacking in Chipping Norton when it comes to like that experience. Yeah. Well, when Jeremy Clarkson's on the red wine, he gets a bit of colour in his cheeks.

He's knee-deep in three bottles of rosé and lamb in the season. And so you're cooking a lot, then? Yeah, we cook a lot. We have a very, like, our house is also like the house that's kind of open-door policy. Yeah. Like, so we have friends over all the time. I can't imagine anything worse. And no.

Okay. The Bond has broken. No, no. I think it's lovely for you to do that. The thought, you'd hate to have an open-door policy in your house, wouldn't you, Rob? No, not when the kids are older. That's the thing. I think.

Just in general, like, well, I don't, you know, but when the kids are older and they've got their own little unit and network, I'm a big fan of that being open around. But not just generic. Your neighbours going, do you know what? To be fair, we've got really good neighbours. Their daughter had a baby, and we were around to visit, and we just wandered over, had a couple of beers, wandered back.

And me and Lou was saying, we want to do that more with our neighbours. Did you? Well, no, this was last week. Oh, right, all right. I'm a busy guy. I think that really matters. Like, that happened to us in lockdown with our neighbours. We would sort of meet on Fridays across the street.

I think it's a nice thing. It's nice for the kids too. Like they get a sort of sense that like, I don't know, especially because I'm away a lot. And my wife goes away a lot too. So there's always sort of one of us kind of holding the fore. It's nice that they know that they've got support. They've got sort of stuff.

Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Also, my neighbor is in his late 50s, early 60s, and he's got two grown-up daughters. I've got two daughters. And he moved into that house, the same age I moved into that house. So I'm literally watching my life in 20 years.

That's kind of weird. And it's mad because. I'm just seeing these interactions with these women and their dad and I'm like that it's it almost almost taking notes about to survive it's quite fun before you know it yeah that's what's crazy but it's nice you've got that sort of like yeah he's lovely it's looking out again how old is your daughter eight almost gone in it's it's a half wait a bit secondary school say to gcccc's mate so the time it has taken between her being born to now that again she won't want to know you that's it goes much quicker I'd say it'd been generous as well

well. Yeah. We've been getting these voicemails from people trying to make their kids say our names on this show. Yeah. And they're 13 year olds who don't like their parents. I've got a feeling when the kids get older and they're not around as much, a bit like, you know, with your wife, your midlife crisis mommy, I think you're going to breed cats. And I think you love your kittens already. I think you're going to become a bit of a cat man. I'm just going to live in a house of 20 cats. Yeah, you'd love that. What is it about cats? Like, you don't like dogs? Dogs dominate for me too much. Dogs dominate. Interesting choice of work.

It's mad that. No, no, I'm kidding. If there was a dog in this room, that would be dominating the whole way the, there was a cat in this room. It would be fine. That's true, that's a good point. I thought he meant they'd get all over you,

bend you over and stuff, get dumping you. Yeah, and oh so, I just got fucked up the ass by dog. Well, dogs. And that's why I'll never go back to Milan I don't care how European it is, mate you don't recover from that If that's what European is, count me out

That's what European is Screaming on all fours vote Brexit I'm not having this Leave means leave from my anus Taking back control He's taken back control of his border Anyway Final questions

I'm so off Good episodes Good episode Great episode You're on tour You're on tour in the autumn I want touring the autumn I want tour in the autumn

I'm going to do the dates Well you do the final question Rob I'm going to sort up the dates Okay right What I do? I'll ask you the question You can have a thing And then he'll real doubt the dates

Seameless Final question I like the hoodies on your website They're quite cool There's a great t-shirt I'm not setting my merchandise No way. I don't have to. I'm not having a cool t-shirt for Do It for love.

I've got a, I'm going sushi next week. There's a mooch. There's a tote. There's always a fucking to carry the shit you're right. That's the plan. Yeah, I don't know when the tote became a thing. No, but you can't do merch without a tote. You can't do merch without a tote. I guess it is a way of saying buy a bag to carry the stuff you're mine. What's the one thing your wife does as a mother where you go,

oh my God, I'm so lucky that I've had children with this woman. She's incredible. What's the one thing she does as a parent that makes you go, it's a little bit of a little bit of, annoying. I don't want to bring it up, but if she was listening, she'd go fair point. Yeah, fair point. I mean, I think the magic of her is the feeling of home wherever we go. Like, of course, our house is just incredible. And like, I see, I see it just with friends and family that come over. It's just a sense of home when you arrive. It's very warm. And I can see it in the confidence of our kids when we're at home. They're just so it is.

But she manages to do that like anywhere. And this is a good enough, but like we can travel 12 hours on a plane and get into a hotel room. Within like an hour, it feels like our home. Yeah, that's such a skill. It's a skill. I'm like,

how have you done this? Like, the hotel room is cozy now, sort of thanks to her. Yeah, every hotel I've ever gone in. It's like first night of divorce. It's just nothing.

I could be in there for days. What do we do with this? I never put any stamp on it, but Lou can make it. You neither. I'm in and I'm out. Like, I barely,

I sort of just about open my suitcase. But when my wife shows up, sometimes against my thing, but it becomes our home. Oh, it's beautiful. She's just got that. it's a vibe thing yeah it's a vibe and the one slight negative

hectic I would say hectic very hectic I mean her diary looks like a basquette painting like and she's always very much like she always wants to sort of do the agenda of the sort of the week like she wants to be very organized like the intention is yeah yeah but the action story artistic temperament artistic temperament artistic temperament yeah so in her mind she's really organized she says I'm always really organized I know this but we've shown up to people's houses for dinner and they're like what are you doing it i think it's fine to be disorganized but i know people where you're like it's the people that think they're organized that are disorganized you're like that's what killed me you're insane because i've seen your life it's chaos don't pretend that it's not just because

you've got a spreadsheet and that's what drives me crazy is the delusion of being organized when i mean you just it is like little aeroplane shooting dates at all yeah are you organized i know i'm disorganized but i'm aware of it yeah and that's right because when i met you this one in Leon at 9.30 a. I mean, you turned up holding a razor and shaving cream. Yeah. I thought this isn't a man that's in control of his day. Life is in control of him. And he's clinging on.

Okay. Tour dates. Tour dates, yeah. So, ho ho. There's a lot of them. Kingston? No. Jamaica? No.

Kick it over Jamaica. Is that the one where you launched the album? Yeah, Kingston's a record store thing. That's a clever thing that. Yeah, it is a good thing. Because then everyone comes and they buy an album. everyone does that one I don't know why that Kingston one

Gorillas did it It's the record store there that does it Yeah they blanking now because it's a Banking, banquet banquet banquet Circuit Not banquet records Oh maybe Well no that's the record launch

Ah yeah Which is great for And then Royal Albert Hall Oh We did that last week man That was insane May the 27th

We're doing in May 27th But we did the first one Oh he's doing two Doing two Amazing how was it It was mad dude And honestly Honestly the kids thing is what

Through me Like I was prepared for it to be an intense emotional night Like it's taken us 20 years to get there And it was a real like chance to look at the fans And yeah and go thank Because I've never had that song That's gotten us there Like this is them like this is fans

Have gotten us to that sort of stage And I looked out and I was gonna do my whole Thank you to the fans in the crowd And I just looked up And I saw my three little hedgehogs Like in the balcony there And I was like You got three headchugs as well

Let him have he was gonna cry then That was how Stephen Bartlett later All the bloody people listening The headchogs are blessed my love Jacks every you fucking fucking emotional sniper who's about to go

he's covering his tears with laughter we had him on the ropes you had red chugs did you wave or say anything to the kids? No it was one in particular my five-year-old

was just sat like that classic like rolled like sort of you know like on the balcony like that and I realize she has no idea what Papa does like my 14-year-old and my 11-year-old

they've seen they've been around they know what goes on they've seen the good the bad ugly. This little one is like, what? Like, what's that? I really don't think, even though she saw me before the show, I could, she just wasn't expecting

me to be the guy walking out. Yeah. She just had this like, what's going on sort of look. And I could see it from, you can see quite clearly there. Yes, everyone's quite close, aren't there? It's quite intimate. And so that really threw me. The whole game plan just wanted to be amazing. But it was lovely. So you're doing that again on 27th of May?

27th of June in State Fair Chelmsford. Yeah, that's going to be great. That's with the Lannis Morris set. Oh, wow. Yeah, it was supposed to be in Neil Young, but he cancelled all of his things. Bon, Zagreb, Beagrad in Serbia, Athena. Belgrade. Oh.

Fucking old, Josh, you're wrong with Bingrad. Belgrade. Fingred. Bucharest, Budapest, Krakow, Warsaw, Villeneas, Berlin, Berlin, Hamburg. Are you going to go through all of them? Yeah, I am. Otrecht. Lettrinion Paris.

Zurich, Milano. Yeah, you won't come to that. Plymouth. Ruff. I told you. Plymouth. Plymouth? Has that stuck it off to Zahreber Malam?

Melanta, Plymouth. You've got five days to get your head back together. I know. I know. To set your levels a bit lower. What are you doing in Plymouth? The Pavilion? The Pavilion.

The Pavilion. The arena. Yeah, I think that's the pavilions. The Pavilion's, yeah. Guild Hall in Portsmouth. Plymouth to Portsmouth, two nights in a row. Rack. Plymouth, Portsmouth, Gates,

said, fucking hell, hell, it changes when you leave Europe, doesn't it? Two nights engaged said I told you Manchester Manchester Hall Glasgow Belfast Dublin Sheffield

Oxford Cambridge Nottingham Cardiff Arena Nottingham again All ending at the Symphony Hall in Birmingham Lovely

Close to home Jack Thank you so much It's been amazing You were brilliant Thank you Let's go to Genoa I love that

Yeah let's go to General Let's go to General What's again Hey y'all's Kelly Clarkson with Wayfair Ever order furniture online and wonder what if? Like, what if it doesn't hold up?

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