Parenting Hell with Rob Beckett and Josh Widdicombe - S6 EP14: Suzi Ruffell

Episode Date: February 24, 2023

 Joining us this episode to discuss the highs and lows of parenting (and life) is the brilliant comedian - Suzi Ruffell. You can find dates and buy tickets for Suzi's tour 'Snappy' at suziruffell.com You can listen to Suzi's podcasts 'Out with Suzi Ruffell' and 'Like Minded Friends' (with co-host Tom Allen) wherever you get your podcasts. Give them a follow!! Thanks, Rob + Josh. We're going on tour!! Fancy seeing the podcast live in some of the best venues in the UK? Of course you do, you're not made of stone! Tickets available now on the dates and at the venues below. We can't wait to see you there... ON SALE NOW  14th April 2023 - Manchester AO Arena 19th April 2023 - Nottingham 20th April 2023 - Cardiff  21st April 2023 - London (The O2) 23rd April 2023 - London (Wembley) 28th April 2023 - Birmingham Utilita Arena  If you want to get in touch with the show here's how: EMAIL: [e-mail] TWITTER: @parenting_hell INSTAGRAM: @parentinghell A 'Keep It Light Media' Production  Sales, advertising, and general enquiries: [e-mail] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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I like the cut of that kid's jib. It's got a bit of actued on him in a good way. Doesn't, doesn't fuck around. Hi, I'm Robin Josh. This is my 40-month-year-old boy. year old boy, Rowan. You said year old again. Oh yeah, sorry. And they didn't even put that in. With his attempt at your intro, love listening to the podcast as we too are in the thick of it with a one and three year old. Thanks for keeping us sane following the sleepless nights and toddled tantrums. Stay sexy and relatable.

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My boyfriend said, there's no way that's Josh Winnockham. Look at how feebly he's walking. No he didn't. And Josh, that's isn't what it said. That's what the email says. And Josh, on my life. Feebly? Well, without my words. Unbelievable. Josh walked past us to the to the toilet, walking as if he was going to be attacked at any moment. This isn't true. You're making the whole thing up. And then proceeded to sit in the corner the corner the corner the corner the corner for the corner the corner the corner the corner for the corner the corner the corner the corner the corner the corner the corner the corner the corner for the corner the corner for 10 the corner the corner for 10 the corner for 10 to to to to to to to to to to to to to be to be to be tooom. tooom. tooom. tooom. to bea. to bea. to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the to be te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. the te. the today. tooomorrow. tooomorrow. toe. And then proceeded to sit in the corner for 10 minutes by himself looking awfully depressed.

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You know how exciting it is when your child finds their giggle? And as a parent, you get so overwhelmed of how adorable it is, you do anything you can to make them giggle. Well, when my I lifted her up, I lifted her above my head to blow raspberries on her tummy. Oh no. And as she was laughing, on the way back down, she was sick.

It went in my mouth and up my nose. Oh my God. Oh my fucking God. Oh my God. I've had to turn away from the mic and I don't even know what I'm doing. And I'll fire anyone who says that warm warm warm warm warm warm warm warm warm warm warm warm warm warm warm warm warm warm warm warm warm warm warm warm warm warm warm warm warm warm warm warm warm warm warm warm warm warm warm warm warm warm warm warm warm. regurgitated baby milk isn't the worst smell in the world. Oh my God. Malfa knows. Oh my God.

I think we do one the show. I can't, I don't know if we can do two. No, that's awful. Oh, I'm sick in your mouth. Oh my God. I didn't like that. Oh, I don't like this feature. It's amazing how smells of you. I don't like this feature either, but I'm almost like addicted to it. I can't read anymore. Right, we'll do some another time.

Okay, should we bring our guest on? I feel sick now. Yeah, it's not ideal, is it? Let me finish on something funny. Okay, don't do another one. On the subject of kids saying funny things from Tuesday's podcast, my youngest used to say for chocolate and sweet and sweet. Cock it and feces. Oh, that's nice. That's good. I can't miss, it's made up that. It's very neat, but I'm happy with it.

Right, Susie Ruffle, great friend of the show. She's got one kid, you'll hear all about it. Love this interview. Please welcome the wonderful Susie Ruffle. Hello, Susie Ruffel. Hello, Josieiddickham and Rob Beckett. Sorry, did I cough all over that, Josh? You really did, yeah, I thought that was quite bad. Sorry, should we start again?

Let's do a proper intro, because Susie's our friend, but let's pretend this is like an official interview. Who are you? Who are we got up next? We've got a lovely comedian up next. I've heard that brilliant. Lovely. Lovely. Lovely. Funny. That's what you say. He's a lovely bloke. He's a lovely girl. No, still a proper intro, Josh.

Go on. But I know what you're about to say, Josh. When we did that gig and the guy couldn't remember my name? Yeah, in Chester. This is like more than a decade ago. More than a decade ago, we're in Chester. About a decade ago, yeah. Oh, fine. A decade in a week ago. Why did I do that? Why did I do that? That's very you. Can you stop talking over our women guests, Josh? Oh God. It's like being back on Mock the Week. About two times I did it. So we were in Chester doing a tour show and then we were doing, it must have been quite a small gig in Chester because you decided to double it with a weekend

gig and then they put me on as an open spot but the guy who I had never seen before and have never seen since couldn't remember my name and he'd written it on his hand and he went up next we've got someone doing a shorter set and it is and then had to look at his hand but rather than th th th th th th th th th th th th th the th the th th the th the th th thin the thin thin thin the the the the the the is and then had to look at his hand but rather than sort of looking at quite casually he went, but you're a problem with my hands at the moment, sort of stretched his hand out. To read it. To read it.

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But at three, that's when psychologically it starts ramping up. And that only ever gets worse because you mentally get weaker and they get stronger. Yeah, until you're dead. I think that's something to look forward too soon. It's been lovely. Thanks for having me. Yeah, great podcast. Congratulations, guys. Bye. Miller Light. The light beer brewed for people who love the taste of beer. And the perfect pairing for your game time.

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And I was like, oh yeah, they are. And she was like, do you want to do something? And I was like, to do you want toto the air and I was like yes please please can I come to your house I think everyone's awkward about it but everyone's up for it yeah exactly yeah it's like fresh as week also as well when they get to school a nursery and stuff it's a bit different with nursery because it's a bit different nursery because you're not really laying proper foundations down because you all know they're all's very interesting when there's sort of like maybe a kid in the class who's a bit annoying or being a bit naughty and then you go for a coffee with a parent and you sort of go, yeah, oh so, so and so, and they go yeah, and then like everyone's all tipto

tied around the fact going, he's a prick. And we all think it, how can we extract our child away from that prick? We're in th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. I thi, thi, thi, thi, I thi, I', I', I' thi, I'll, thi, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I'a, I'a, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th. I, th. I, th. I, th. I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I', I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I've, I'm, I'm, thi. So, thi. So, thi. So, thi. So, thi. I'm, thi. So, thi. And, thi. And, thi. And, thi. I'm, thi. I'll, that prick. We're in this together, me and you. But it's awkward if the mum of the prick is there. Yeah. Have you two become friends with anyone from school? Yes. Rob doesn't like the people from school, but I have. No, that's a lie. I'd say, yeah, I'm very matey with them. I'll go to the pub of them sometimes and I play football with them. But I'm in the market of losing of of of of losing of losing of losing of losing of losing of losing of losing of losing of losing of losing of losing of losing of losing of losing of losing of losing of losing of losing of losing of losing of losing of losing of losing of losing to moment. So I'm quite up. I'll delete your number later. I'm quite up for increasing acquaintances through a promotion and a demotion. Okay. Have you got a one in one out policy Rob? Yeah, I'm sort of dropping them down, bringing them up to... Is this a transfer window? Yeah, so I'm like Chelsea, basically. I want a full squad of acquaintance. they threat. I think it's quite demanding being a friend. Is. Is. Is. Yeah. Yeah. A the the the the the the the the the the th. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. the the the the the the the the t. the t. their. their t. t. their their their their. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I's. I'm. I'm, their. I'm, their. I'm, their. I'm. I'm. I's. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I........................................................................................................... have somebody's a friend. I think it's quite demanding being a friend. How many friends do you think you can have? I think you've four or five tops. Yeah. Four or five, really? Good friends?

You can properly keep on top of and help out. What do you consider a friend? Someone that messages you, that says I'm going for a bad time and you have to do more than go, oh I hope you feel better soon. Oh God I've got no friends. How many friends have you got Susie? Um, it sounds like I panicked to year seven. I've got, yeah, like, Rob, so like a handful, maybe like six. I'd say that you're one of them, Josh. Yeah. No offense, Rob, I just never opened few on the road where we had to really put in the years of friendship. No, no, no, no, you two have got more history. It's Tom Allen one.

Yes, of course. Yeah, yeah. If you had like a, I'm going to give you three scenarios, I want you to say whether you go to me or to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to to go to go to to to to to to to to to to to go to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the to the their their to to to their their their their to to to to to to to to to to their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their met any of the friends? Do you approve of the friends? Yes. I met a few of the friends, which is really nice. And then there's obviously friends, like Jen, who's house I'm at today, she's got two boys.

I know that you've had her on the podcast years ago. So like then there's the friends mean? I much prefer, and I think Rob disagrees with me on this, I prefer the children to make the decision and we have to deal with the parents, then we make the decision and the children have to deal. I agree with that Josh, I'm on your side. Oh, okay. No, I agree. No, I want her to choose her to choose her friends. It doesn't sound like it. But. But to to to to to to to to to their. to their. their. to. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their their their their. their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their. I their. I their. I their. I their. I their. I their. I their. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I their. I to. I to. to. to. tooooooooooooooooooooo. I too. their their their their their. their. Yes, but if the kids don't get on with each other, it doesn't even matter if you get on with the parents, the day's awful. Oh, no. If my kids are on holiday and they're getting on with other kids and they're quieting the pool, I'll happily have a mimosa with Fred and Rose West. Let's get bogged down by your bass. Let's just focus on the moment. God, how terrible for them to have that name? That must have been heartbreaking.

I'm surprised they didn't change it. You've got to split up in that situation. Well, imagine, because there's lots of West. Imagine if you are a rose and you like a guy called West. You can't marry you. Would you change your first name or your second name? shipman wherever it is you got. Anyway back to your children or child just as a child I don't think I've got to. No I was gonna ask is your partner working yes we both work working full-time yes and you're going on tour your tours

coming up so how are you so Alice works four days a week yep and then I try and have Wednesday where I'm not working yeah but I get a day with her by myself and then Alice gets a day with her by herself on Friday. And then we sort of juggle it. You know, my mom comes and helps, Alice's mom comes and helps. She does a bit in nursery as well. So it's all very up in the air. Is your nursery you can just turn up when you like, kind of a try to the to the one. She won't go to sleep, fucking out. It's not 24 hours petrol station, Josh.

Have you got set days at nursery? Yes, yes, yes, yes. Yes. Yeah, so she's at nursery, Monday, Tuesday, Thursday. Yeah. It's Mama Day and it's Mommy's Day on Fridays. So are you Mama and Alice's mummy? Yeah. How did you decide? I don't, I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I that I that I that I don't. It. It's that. It's that. It's that. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's tha. It's tha. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's to to to th. It's to to to th. It's that. It's that. It's thatea. It's thatea. It's to thatea. It's 24. It's 24. It's 24. It's 24. It's 24my? I'm Mama and Alice's Mummy, yeah. How did you decide?

I don't actually remember the conversation that we had. That's where you and Alice called each other anyway, isn't it? Yeah, yeah, yes, it just worked. Yeah, exactly. Exactly, you know Alice. You call her mummy, we're a weirdly as well. Josh calls all women that are older and in mummy. It's just so he's working through it in therapy but they haven't cracked it yet. And that really pissed off Lorraine Kelly didn't it? Worst thing is Rose is a month older than me.

Yeah. So you've had a lockdown. So you've had a lockdown. Yes. And then you've obviously been working and you a big tour, a lot of dates, is that correct? Yeah, it is quite a lot of dates. And when do you start? So I did an autumn leg of it and now it restarts in March. Yeah, so how is it being away from home? I find it quite hard being away. Snappie's a great title for a tour by the way. Yeah, it's a tour that you had to name six months before starting the writing on it. Oh yeah. Oh mate, we've all been there, wallop. So I, obviously for no gay couple was one of us having a baby an accident, but I think, you know, because it was a very planned thing for us to

become mums, and it was something both of us had really, really wanted for a really long time, I knew knew once she came along my work would sort of begin to take a back seat. And so with the tour and with everything that I do now really, it's like what's the easiest way to do this as a family. So I only do a couple days a week so the tour is running on and on and on because I only want to do a couple of days a week. And I don't want to be away too much. You know, a time will come when she's less interested in me and I'll still be a stand-up then, you know, and I'll be going out on the road. So I think it was quite a long journey to us becoming moms.

Are you coming home every night? No. So I don't do more any more that week unless it's there and back and then I'll be home late on that night. But I just feel like at the moment she's so little that she gets quite upset and then I can't bear it and I'm leaving and she sort of goes no work no work and it just breaks your heart. No work no nursery no dinner no holidays. See you in two nights. You've moved away from London right? Yeah. Was that a parenting decision to spend more time with her and stuff like that? Yeah,

do you know what? Part of it was because I was ready to leave London and it's really expensive. We wanted to have a house and we could get not loads more in Brighton. I wanted to be close to mom and dad. They're in Portsmiss. So they're an hour down the road now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now to to to the to to to to the to to to to to the to have to have to have to have to have to have the to have. the tooomomom. tooom. to have. to have. to have. tooom. to have. to have. to have to have. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have their their their. their. the the the the the the the the their. the the the their. their. their. to. to. to. their. to. to. their. too. their. their. too. their. too. their. their. too. too. too. to. to. to. to. they're in Portsmouth. It's there an hour down the road now, which is lovely. And I really wanted her to have friends who had two moms or two dads. There's just more gay people here that have kids. And I just don't want her to ever feel, you know, I don't want to get out of my tiny violin, but I know that when I was growing up I found th growing up I found th growing up I found th really really really really really really really really really really really really really really I found I found I found I found I found really really really really really really I felt really alone for my sort of teen years. And so I just never want her to feel like that. I never want her, not that I'm saying she'll be gay, you know, 100% of the friends I've got that are gay, have straight parents, if anything, you lot are doing it.

But I just never want her to feel like a massive outsider. I wanted her to know people that were like us. Yeah, totally. Because it is a new thi new thi new thi new thi new thi new thi new thi thi th. th. th. th. th. thi th. thi th. th. th. thi th. thi that's tho that's tho tho tho tho that that I'm that's that I'm that I'm that I'm that I'm that I'm that I'm not that I'm not that I'm not that I'm not that I'm that I'm that I'm that I'm that I'm that I'm not that I'm not that I'm not that I I I'm not that I I I I I I I I'm not that I I'm not that's th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. thea. the. the. the. I'm not that I'm not that I'm not that I'm not it? For our generation, it's happening a lot. Yeah, totally. But when we were kids, which was only sort of 15, 20 years ago, no one. Not even on the news, like in LA, like, you know, these famous actors are doing it. Yeah, exactly. It was nowhere. And like you say, like, because it was South London, was it's in Siddn. the, was, the, the, the, was, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, th, th, th, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. Yeah, th. th. th. th. th. th, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. th. th. th. th. to. to. to. to. th. th. th. to. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. I'm in Bromley, and I know Josh laughs, but that's sort of London, it's not in the middle of nowhere,

but the gender roles are really still quite stuck on round where we live. It's like, I'll have mates who are in their 50s, like, or friends of friends or people I've met, they're like, oh, don't your wife, then, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, I, and I, I, I, I, I, I more in our house because I enjoy it more and who doesn't really like cooking and we're both two adults that like do things we like, you know? And so I do think if you went to a school in Southeast London and both your parents with the same sex, it would be more problematic than it would be in Brighton. Yeah, I think you're right. And I think like exactly what you're saying because of growing up when we all grew up you know we're a similar age I never

thought that I could be a mom. Yeah. It's actually why I always put so much into like my career and like I would I need to achieve I need to succeed in some way almost in a way like oh I need to give something for my mom and dad to be proud of because I don't think I'm gonna thin to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the I'm to to to to to to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to to to be to to to to th. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the their their their their their their the the the the the their their their their their their their their their their their their their their to their their think I'm going to make them grandparents. Oh, that's a big pressure. Because it just didn't feel like it was something that was possible for me and like however you do it as a queer person, whether you do, you know, surrogacy, IVF, adoption, whichever route you go down. It is like an emotional and quite often financial, huge expense. And do you find that you now, is the like, that, to thi to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be, to be, to be, to be, to be, to be, to be, to be, to be, to be, to be, to be, to be, to be, to be, to be, to be, to be, to be, to be, to be, to be, to be, to be, to be, to be, to be, to be, to be, to be, to be, to be, to be, to be, to be, to be, to be, to be, to be, to be, toe.. I, toe. I, toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. to, to is there like any questions from her or does there any like? Not yet. Not yet. We've got lots of books that are like to dad. You've got Alfred and Albert. Is that the penguin one? No, it's two hard varks. No, then no I haven't. Oh I'd highly recommend it. Oh, send me a copy. It's like two odd fox that fall in love. Oh love it. Yeah, yeah. A. the the the the the the the the the the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. th. opy. It's like two oddfarks that fall in love. Oh, love it. Yeah, yeah, anyway, sorry.

No, I enjoyed that. What a strange distraction from me. I just can't believe there's so many animals, isn't it? Yeah. Is that the penguin one? Is it? Yeah. It's?

the the . the news. And did they adopt or do surrogacy at London's? They looked after an egg together. Oh, so it was sort of like a casual penguin adoption. That's sort of how it happened, yeah. Yeah, which I don't know, I don't know whether it's like, you know, I don't if they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they the the their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their thu. thu. thu. thu. togu. toguu. toguu. thoooooooooooooooo their their their the don't know if they wanted to take the penguin on holiday, I don't know how the paperwork would work. And so what's it like at your nursery? Is it? Oh, there's no other gay parents of course? Oh, there's no other gay parents of the school? Oh, no, but we've got lots of friends that are gay parents and, you know, there's lots of people in her life you know there's lots of different kinds of families in our life more than anything we just want to be like look there's lots of options and then obviously we've

got lots of friends that are gay she knows Tom really well she calls him pom pom pom which I think suits him even more what's Tom Alan like as a fun uncle he's really good with her is he's really good with her he he's he he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's really he he's really he he's really he he's really he he he he's really really he he's really really he he's really he he he he he he's really he he he he he he he he he he he he's th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th the the the the the to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the to a pride party at his house, I was away working and she went into the garden and Tom had like done it all up with like rainbows and flags and loads of stuff and she ran into the garden and at the top of her lungs at a pride party was when we we found out in real time that she can't say flag. So she just ran into Tom's garden and went, Fags, Fags, so many fags. I mean absolute nightmare. I tell you what. Flags, she's saying flags, she's saying flags.

Lucky she's your daughter there because they're not going to blame the parents. If it was yours. Oh my boy. What are they said behind closed doors? But yes, so I think that was definitely part of the moving here. And I think it's a nice place to grow up. I grew up by the time when I'm at my least funny and at my most anxious.

Yeah, yeah. It sort of defines you as you are the comedian, not Susie, the mom or the wife or the friend, the friend. Yeah, exactly. And all they ask you off the telly or why aren't you on the tele? All those things, yeah. But if you say you're a comedian, it's either why haven't I seen you on the tele or is what are they like off the tele? Yeah, or I don't like this person. Yeah, whatever it is.

And it's sort of like, you have to start going to have book, there's not as many panel shows anymore than there was 10 years ago. You know, you can be totally defined and just obsessed with a job like this because there's not a point where you go, oh you've reached the next you're at manager level or you're at you know, oh you're now a partner. Oh you've got a team that can take some of the workload. You can't send off a little Susie Ruffled disciple to Bradford. I'd love to. To go, yeah, do the show for me tonight. I've got things to mop up with the New York office. But it's all those things.

And then I think that moving and you know, Alice has the patience of a fucking saint, you know, for the first five years of our relationship it was about my job. Yeah. Or four years of our relationship, it was about my job, it was about her being available when I wasn't working. Yeah, yeah. And I think when we decided we wanted to become moms and we started the journey of parenthood and getting there and working out how we were going to get there, we sort of had to have a conversation where she had to be like, okay, so it's not all about your career anymore. Yeah. Which is really good. And how did you feel at that point? I'm out. Ha ha ha!

Does Alice work from home then? Yeah, Alice works from home, and then she goes into London sort of once a week. the she keeps us alive she makes sure there's everything she doing all the mental load Susie do you know what the mental load is is it what I used to do when we were on tour for you? No it's not my god how's this back behind on me I'm joking come on Josh talking about the mental load Josh it's stuff like remembering when a friend's birthday is or what the kids need at school that week yes I think so I'm trying to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the to the to the to the the to the to the the the the to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the to to to the the the to to to told. told. told. told. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the told. told. th. told. told. told. to me. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. Yes I think so. I'm trying to do more of that. But it's Alice is sort of the lead on that issue in your relationship. She's definitely the lead. Who does the bins? I do the bins. Yeah, okay, cool. Do you like the bins? I think it's a good job. The bins is a good job. Do you? Yeah. I don't mind breaking. Oh, the that's. th. th. th. the the the th. the the the th. the the the th is. the the the the the the th is. the the the the th is. the the the the the the the the the the the the th is th is thin is th is the th is the the th is the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th is is th is th is th is th is thin is thin is thin is tie is tie tie. tie. tie. tie. tie. tie. tie. tie. th is is is. th. th is. th is. th is. three on the go. I bet it's all separate in it. Three on the go, oh you know it. We've got a green MP mate. Oh you've got a green MP the bins is a huge job. The bins is massive. I've got to drive the lorry. You have to recycle it yourself.

Sort of rotating. It's not a rotating system everyone gets a to go. What was it like with Josh on tour? the tod. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th th th th th th th th th th th the the the thin's is thin's is the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. th th th th th thin. thin. thin. th thin. tod today. th thin. thin. th th thin. thin. th th thin. th th thin. The bins good parent when you used to see him sort of living his life? Oh yeah, I mean we had such a good time on tour. We're really good mates and Josh was always enormously supportive of me and by stand-up. But did you see him as a parent? Yeah because you know what there were times, did you remember and I had that terrible break up? Oh yeah, you were very in your bed? No, no, no, no, it wasn't quite like that. No, no, no, no. I had a second bed in my room and I asked her to get in. Did you? Okay, so, from, okay. Okay, we're in, you've done the theater in Buxton.

Yes, yes. and it had been snowing. Okay. And so we were winding each other up on the way back being like, oh, I hope it's not haunted. Oh, you know, that sort of thing. And anyway, then I get into bed and I'm a real wimp. Right, okay. And I'm quite frightened. And then my phone rings. For some reason, I think I, that's terrified. Which is really weird.

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and the cat and then Alice moved in the cat was like who is this bitch and then Alice was like I think the cat needs to sleep in the land. Oh Alice I don't think you've got the decision. I love how in charge Alice is you are all whipped and I love it you are all fucking rule in the rules fuck off she had a point the roos. Fuck off, cat. Get out. She had a point. The cat didn't tell. To move in and then move the cat out. Well, the cat was very loving to me,

but she used to bite Alice. Oh, yeah. I bet she blows their nose. Really? Yeah. Our cat comes in at night now and sleeps on our bed, she paws at our faces. No, that cat's got to go. The cat's waking you up before the kids. You want Alice round, she's like super nanny, but with cats. Right so how did you get rid of the cat from the bedroom, Suzy? Oh we've got doors? Okay, just no windows.

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It was like he didn't have any friends. George Wittem from Dartmoor the lead in the school play in the final year. What was the school play? Robin Hood. Jerry McGuary played the kid. You were Robin Hood in Robin Hood? Oh, that's pretty good. Yeah, thank you very much. And get this.

Who's made Marian? Can't remember who made Mary was. That's bad. That's bad. She's probably listening right now thinking I've been waiting for this to come up. There was no pay gap. There was no pay. Do you want to be impressed? I can't wait to be. Do you know how the role was assigned? Anyone that wanted to play Robin Hood had to audition in front of the class and there was a class vote? Oh so no one else auditioned? That's high pressure Josh, high stakes. Turned it on mate. What did you do?

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into but also you've got this beautiful daughter. Like was it was a moment for the family? Yeah it has been actually. It's been lovely watching my mom and dad become grandparents because my brother doesn't have any children and so it's just her at the minute and it might end up just being her. We're at that stage now where everyone's constantly asking us if we're having another and I mean the honest response is a lot of the friends have had another and it looks really fucking hard the water. Did you consciously try for two. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to, the to, the to, the to, the to, the the the the the the their, the the the their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their their their their their their their, their their their th. th. th. th. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. th. thoooooooo. th. their th. tho. the water. Did you consciously try for two Rob? Yes we definitely wanted to yeah but were you like let's check where Lou is on the cycle and get shagggin kind of thing or I'll be honest with it we got pregnant quite quick both times. All right legend legend to the point which yeah I never really got that a week's a shagging. I feel like I got miss sold that it was like. Loo. Loo. Loo. L. L. L. L. I was liked I was liked I was liked I was liked I was liked I was liked I was liked I was liked I was liked I was liked. I was like I was like I was like I was like I was like I was like I was like I was like I was like I was like I was like I'm to to the to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. I was. I the. I the the. I the the. I the. I the. I the. I the. I the. I the. I th. I th.agggy. I feel like I got missold that. It was like... Lou must have been relieved though. We were lucky and also had a way weren't lucky.

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and this got to be done and that's gonna be done. And so it's all quite, things have to be like exactly so. And I think that's quite hard. And I think she's really because she's too on it. She's so on it. And the good one? It's a good one that she's on it? Well, yeah, I think, partly it's a good one that she's on it.

But I think, I just, I think that both of us grew up thinking that we weren't going to be moms. beach and three of us and it was kind of like fucking how we've done this. Oh like she's ours and we're hers and it's us three and it didn't there was a long time where it didn't feel like long before I met Alice where I didn't think that being a mom and being gay and there were people listening again well loads of people like it totally but when I was 15 it just didn't seem possible. And it sort of felt like when I came out, it sort of felt like I'd said goodbye to that. And so to now be a mum, but also be a mom with someone that's so good at being a mom.

Oh, feels really special. Oh, that's the best to be too... But it's slainly ruined by, do you know what? I'm just picturing, there's a cat back at the house. Sharpening its nails. What the fuck is happening to my life? Where's my fucking ice cream? Where's my fucking ice cream? It used to just be me and Suzy. Suzy.

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Thanks, Susie. Bye-bye. Suzy. thrown, Suzy, and, think that helps to have slightly more earnest and deeper conversations about you know what it's like being a mom and having a daughter and then in the same-sex marriage and stuff so it's good to have all the different angles. What it's like absolutely ruining a cat's life because you've moved on. Anyway go and see Susie Ruffel on tour and also she's got a brilliant podcast with Tom Allen yes you should th. What it it it it to the to the to the the to the they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they're they're they're they're they're to to to th. to to to to to to to to to to to thi to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to they's they's they's they's to they's to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to their to their their their their their their their their their their tho. their their their to. to. told too. told tho. to tho. the. the. thel on tour. And also she's got a brilliant podcast with Tom Allen.

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Go and see her tour snappy.