Parenting Hell with Rob Beckett and Josh Widdicombe - S6 EP16: Sara Cox

Episode Date: March 3, 2023

 Joining us this episode to discuss the highs and lows of parenting (and life) is the brilliant DJ and presenter - Sara Cox. Sara's latest Sunday Times best selling book 'Thrown' is available now i...n paperback. Sara is known and loved by millions of Radio 2 listeners, where she presents the Sara Cox Show 5-7 pm. Sara currently hosts the popular weekly TV book programme Between the Covers on BBC2. Her memoir, Till the Cows Come Home (2018), was a Sunday Times bestseller. Thanks, Rob + Josh. We're going on tour!! Fancy seeing the podcast live in some of the best venues in the UK? Of course you do, you're not made of stone! Tickets available now on the dates and at the venues below. We can't wait to see you there... ON SALE NOW  14th April 2023 - Manchester AO Arena 19th April 2023 - Nottingham 20th April 2023 - Cardiff  21st April 2023 - London (The O2) 23rd April 2023 - London (Wembley) 28th April 2023 - Birmingham Utilita Arena  If you want to get in touch with the show here's how: EMAIL: Hello@lockdownparenting.co.uk TWITTER: @parenting_hell INSTAGRAM: @parentinghell A 'Keep It Light Media' Production  Sales, advertising, and general enquiries: hello@keepitlightmedia.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello, I'm Rob Beckett. And I'm Josh Winnockham. Welcome to Parenting Hell, the show in which Josh and I discuss what it's really like to be a parent, which I would say can be a little tricky. So, to make ourselves and hopefully you feel better about the trials and tribulations of modern-day parenting, each week we're chatting to a famous parent about how they're coping. Or hopefully how they're they're tha th hearing from you the listener with your tips, advice, and of course, tales of parenting woe. Because let's be honest, there are plenty of times when none of us know what we're doing.
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Starting point is 00:01:28 Visit Nispresso.c.c.a. to learn more or an espresso boutique near you. Hello, you're listening to Parenting Hell with. Florence, can you say Rob Beckett? And can you say Josh Whittakum? Josh Woburn. This is Florence who's just turned two. I think that's pretty good. We coaxed her to say this whilst munching on a cucumber, which she stole from the side whilst we're making dinner.
Starting point is 00:01:59 She's a bit of a food thief, but we generally let her get on with it if it's a distraction to get the actual dinner so we can get the dinner on the table. A raw onion or egg shell isn't off the cars bloody out. We can't wait to see you live in April. Fuck it. What out of the rollback? A raw, no, she'll try and eat it. My son's eating raw onion I the shell. Well that's not bad if they like it. the shell, the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, the, thin, thin, thin, thin, th th th th th th th th thin, thin, th thin, thin, th thin, thia thia, thia, thia, thia, thia, thin, thin, thin isn't is is is thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the. It's the eggshell. I need the eggs. Yeah, I'm not, yeah, you know, if they like it, they're not, you know, obviously the same rule of them better. I don't think it's encouraged. No. Do I tell you Lou burned boiled eggs this week? Oh, my word.
Starting point is 00:02:33 I'd never known it. I was doing an interview and I went, oh, I've got to do a 20 minute interview. I've put these eggs on to boil in cold water, so it'll take a little while. But, and she went, yeah, but how'd you want them done? I went, oh no, just hard boiled, so just, you know, whatever, just turn them off when they're, you know, after five, 10 minutes or whatever and leave the water evaporated. Oh my word. And then she could smell burning and basically it just started like just sort of pan-frying. Just frying into the boiled eggs. So basically it burnt the shell and then the shell cracked and then it just started burning through to the white. Oh my word.
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Starting point is 00:03:52 April, if they're from Peterborough, Rob, I reckon they're coming to the Nottingham date. Yeah, boy. Good then I met them at the end of that tube, got, and they picked me up from the tube, we drove to Peter Bright, and it was basically a pub that was trying to do stand-up, but they had done nothing other than put a microphone in the corner busy pub. Yeah. Backs of heads, tables, people queue in, everyone watching, you know, awful. But I got to pay 40 quid cash, got dropped home. Stanmore, 1 a.m., no tubed. Three night buses. I was back in Louison before you knew it. Oh my God, do I ever tell you I did a gig where a pub was trying to do stand up and they didn't know how to do it. Like and so their. And so everyone everyone everyone everyone everyone everyone everyone everyone everyone everyone everyone everyone everyone everyone everyone everyone everyone everyone everyone everyone everyone everyone everyone everyone everyone everyone everyone everyone. Everyone everyone. they had, everyone was eating dinner and he had a mic with no lead.
Starting point is 00:04:45 The landlord said, I was like, so what, you just want me to stand in the corner? And he said, or you could just go table to table and just do a joke to each table? I was like, like a hand magician. I'm not walking around the room, arriving at each table to go, have you ever been to Madame Two sorts? Because this is my an the the the the laden, the laden, the laden, the the the laden, the the the the the the the the the the the the their their their their to. I to, I to, I was to, I was to say, I was to say, I was to say, I was to say, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I said, I said, I said, I said, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was to say, I was to say, I was to say, I was to say, I was, I was, I was, I was. I to, I to, I to, I to, I to, I to, I was to, I was to, I was to, I was to. I was to. I was to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to me. I'm toe. I'm the toe. the the the toe. the to to to to to the the the table to go, have you ever been to Madame Two swords because this is my anecdote. Okay, gun to your head and you had to because your family's life was on it. You're in that room now. You've got that mic, you've got to go to a table to make them laugh.
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Starting point is 00:05:49 What? What? Oh, God, back in the day. If you type in Oxford Dining Hall, right? It comes up, straight away. At the end of it on a little like race, black. Oh my God, like Harry Potter? Yeah. It looks like Hogwarts.
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Starting point is 00:06:26 Yeah, I always love that. Yeah, that was good. I still think about that. When I have a penino, think about that. It gets transported back to you being a young whippe-a-a-snapper. What's you talk... Brevill, Meeker? What's you talking about? We got bought a Brevill for Christmas two years ago. And it's so good, but you eat so many toaster sandwiches for about two weeks and then it just goes in the cupboard. And then you start experimenting with cheese beans and bovroth. Oh my god. Cheese and pickles is a good one. Have you ever tried cheese and pickle?
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Starting point is 00:08:06 Oh, my daughter's shouting for me, Rob. Okay, go on. Do she want a sandwich? She wants to toast a sandwich. I don't think she'd enjoy it. I'm going to tell you this. Everything okay? He's doing some parenting. Everything okay. That's a strange thing to ask good.
Starting point is 00:08:29 Not really, no. Bit of back pain. Um, yeah, so I... I'm working. I'm working. I'm working. I'm working. I'm working. I'm going calltalking to Rob about toasted sandwich makers, okay? I'm grafting it. I've got calluses. What's that, mate?
Starting point is 00:08:47 Oh, I didn't hear it. I enjoyed you saying you're working to your daughter after discussing sandwich makers. Yeah. Yeah, that is bad, isn't it? I'm working. Why you didn't say it like that? She said what are you up to? I said I'm working. I know what you said? What that? What are you are you are you are to to to to to say? What are to say? What are to say? What are to say? What are up? What are up? What are up? to say? to say? to say? to say? to say? I'm to to say? I'm to to to to to say? I'm working? I'm to say? I'm to say? I'm to say? I'm to say? I'm to say? I'm to say? I'm to say? I'm working? I'm working? I'm working? I'm working? I'm to say? I'm to say? I'm to say? I'm to say? I'm to say? I'm to say? I'm to say? to say? I'm to say? I'm to say? I'm to say? I'm to say? I'm to say? I'm to say? I'm to say? I'm to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to say, I'm working? I'm working? I'm working? I'm wo. I'm wo. I'm to say, I'm to say? I'm talking about toasted sandwich makers. I love a toasted sandwich. Really love them. That's the most honest you've ever been. That is your that is pure, that is your soul that is a toasted sandwich, isn't it? This bread's bread so bad for you. I'm just so, I'm so, I'm so basic when it comes to food. Do you know what I mean? I'm not, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just just, I'm just just just just just just just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just just just just just just just, I'm just just just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, th th the the the the the the th th bad for you. I'm just so, I'm so basic when it comes to food. Do you know what I mean? I'm not, I'm just, I love a toasted sandwich and I'm fine with that. Do you know what I used to try and think that I, if I genuinely, bread and cheese and butter, if I could have that every day and not die within about three years, I would eat three massive sandwiches every day. You know what I love? I'm going to say it. I fucking love a freezer pizza.
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Starting point is 00:11:28 That's about all I've got. Okay, all right, that's quite extensive, fair play. Yeah, respect. Okay, let's bring on our guest. Oh, and what a guest it is. Yes. In fact, Rob, Rob, one of your, you, a member of the Radio 2 family. I can't see Sarah Cove.
Starting point is 00:11:47 And I enjoyed you keeping it together considering that you were obsessed with Sarah Cox in the 90s. This is Sarah Cox. Hello, Sarah Cox, welcome to the podcast. Me and Josh are very excited. You've been on the hit list. Yeah. Oh wow, is that a good hit list? Yeah, it's a good list. Yeah. People we want want th want th want th want th want th want th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th the th the th the tho the tho the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. th. th. th. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. C. C. C. C. C. S. C. Sera to. C. to. to. to. together. together. together. together. together. tho. together. S. C. S. S. C., is that a good hit list? Yeah, it's a good one. It is a good hit list, yeah, of people we want and think will be good. I can see a cat in the background as well. One of my many pets, frustrated daughter of a farmer, so I can't have any cows or goats, so I just have as many small things as I can wandering around. So are you actually a daughter a farmer? I didn't know this. Yeah, my dad's a beef farmer. He still is.
Starting point is 00:12:26 I mean, he's 80 odd and I ring him and I can hear the rumble of the tractor. Hey, up, I'm just shoveling cac. Give me a minute. So are you in London? Yeah, I'm in North London. I mean, I love London. I've been th. I've been th. I've th. I've th. I've the the the the the the th. I've the rum. I've the rum. I've the rum. I've the rum. I've the rum. I've the rum. I've the rum. I'm the rum. I'm the rum. I'm the rum. I'm the rum. I'm the rumble. I'm the rumble. I'm the rumble. I'm the rumble. I'm the rum. I'm the rum. I'm the rum. I'm the rum. I'm the rum. I'm the rum. I'm the rum. I'm the rum. I'm the rum. I'm the rum. I'm the rum. I'm the rum. I'm the rum. I'm the rum. I'm the rum. I'm the rum. I'm the rum. I'm the rum. I'm the rumble. I'm the rumble. I'm the rumble. the rumble. the rumble. the rumble. the rumble. the rumble. the rumble. the rumble. the rumble. I'm the rumble. I'm the rumble. I'm up north but a little tiny bit of me still has that little pipe dream that one day I'll have a small holding and a few more dogs and you know ponies for the kids all that. What kids have you got before we start what ages are they? Well I barely qualify for this podcast really my parenting is
Starting point is 00:12:57 nearly done. Wow wow well it's a bit of an exaggeration the youngest is 12 so you know some would argue a quarter of the way through. Yeah. I hate when people go. It's a northern thing. But I think I am quite like, you know, done now. You know what I mean? You can make a toasty. My parenting's done. You're done. My parenting's done. My parenting's done. My. My parenting. My parenting. Oh. Right, wow. And what's your 18 actually? He or she at uni or working? This September she will be at uni, hopefully. We're very proud. However, that means she's living her fresh a year while still being under our roof, essentially. Right, okay. And she's not really wild. She just loves making things with curry powder very early in the morning before college or very late at night. What do you mean making things with curry powder? I really love Indian food and Indian flavors but she makes these big veggie curries. She uses our house, you know when you hear about dark kitchens
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Starting point is 00:14:37 well she's doing a really brilliant thing it's amazing to do a foundation course with that then you know what you want to do and she'll go to a good uni hopefully in September but I'll really be like you know makes shoving motion bye love you. Does she want to go somewhere? Yeah yeah she's as well. She's ready now she's ready to leave the nest she's fully feathered legs are dangling over the edge of the nest you know would you want her to go up north to sort of to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the to to the to to the the to the the to to to to the the to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the to to to to to to to. to. to. to. to be. to be. I I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And, the. And. And, the. And, the. And. th. th. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. the. the edge of the nest, you know. Would you want her to go up north to sort of reconnect with her northern routes? Like you say, you've been down here for so long now, that you've probably got three little posh Londoners,
Starting point is 00:15:10 haven't you? I know, I know, they still say back. Do they? Okay. That's the thing. Yeah, it's then get the tram over to my mom's and go and see her little grandma I thought it'd be quite cute you know see the family up there how will you react on that day when you drop her off? Get absolutely leathered I think celebrate. Before we bought the house that were in now we were looking around this area
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Starting point is 00:16:48 drop her back off well I don't even drop her at Houston anymore I pop her in an Uber when I pop with the Uber she's had enough of me and I've had enough of her yeah we're a bit like you know it's just a bit like I love you but, but we're done now. So she'll be off. And we should have a great time. When my parents came and tour of me to Australia and New Zealand, and on the way back from New Zealand, it was like 14 hours to Singapore, was in Singapore for two hours, got delayed an hour,
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Starting point is 00:18:07 I'm emotional anyway. And then he'll tell you something complete she tripped over a lamp or whatever it is. A grey end's not well. Like you're just like, I don't care. But yeah, you're slipped out that long together. Yeah, I'd say, yeah. Oh, she she. She she. She that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. they. that. that. that. that. they. that. that. that. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's slipped. that's slipped. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. th. th. to. too. together. together. together. together. together. together. together. together. together. together. together. together. together. together. anniversary week. I'm thinking I might get him a present. All right, yeah, okay. What do you think about that rather than say it? What was that old?
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Starting point is 00:19:05 speaking to me husband and it goes did she start it out I'm like yeah but she left just one splodger curry sauce about two inches to the left of the note that I'd left her in the kitchen into real life okay fuck you do what you say but I'll just let you know that I don't care as much as you and I was like I've took a picture picture the the picture the picture the picture the picture the picture the picture the picture the picture the the picture the the the the the the to to to to to to the to to to to to the to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the the to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the to to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th th. th. I was th. I was just just just just just just th. I was just. I was just. I'm the. I was just. I'm just. I'm just. I'm just. I'm just. I was. I'm just. I'm just. I'm just. I was. I'm just. I'm just. I'm just. I'm just. I'm just. I'm just. I'm, but I'll just let you know that I don't care as much as you and all the time. I've took a picture of the splodging everything. Do you know what? You won't remember this, Sarah, but for some reason I've got a memory of you parenting, which was... Sounds creepy. Yeah, this is weird. When we did the Crystal Maze together about 10 years to the today. And there was there was there sat there and I remember hearing consecutive phone calls from Rio Ferdinand to his kid and then you to must be your daughter now and he was
Starting point is 00:19:52 really talking about how this kid had played in the football did they win really competitive like sports dad and then I just remember you saying to your daughter yeah if you've done all your work then you can go to sprinkles and that then you can go to sprinkles. And that's all you said. Go to sprinkles. Sprinkles is legendary. It's shut down now, sadly. What is sprinkles? It was an ice cream parlor, like pancake parlour, you know, and it's shut down because we're British and we're like, who wants an ice cream parlor?
Starting point is 00:20:23 It's too much, you know. But you came across as a very chilled out parent, is that fair? You know what, despite the start I've made with this shot, I am actually pretty chilled. My husband's much stricter with me, but I think it's because she's so big now that it is some sort of primal instinct that like, you know, that she could beat you up. Yeah, go with fear your own mammoth, you know, out the case, you're grown now kind of thing. But otherwise, I am pretty chilled really. I'm not going back to university to be your friend. I'm going so I can get Uber one for students. It saves you on Uber and Uber eats. I'm there for zero dollar delivery fee on cheeseburgers, up to 5% off smoothies and 5% Uber cash back on rides. Just to be clear, I'm there for savings, not whatever you think university is for. Get Uber one for students, a membership to save on Uber and Uber eats.
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Starting point is 00:21:45 Learn more at MillerLight.c.c.a. Must be Legal Drinking Age. What about with going out and stuff? Like are you asking a lot of questions about who she's going or you relaxed about that as well? Well to be fair on my home screen of my phone I've got all three and my husband. I've got their locations. Oh have you? On my phone I've got all free and my husband I've got their locations on my phone yeah wow like like spooks like the real hustle no is it like meet the parents where he's got that little spy room I just go to I press a painting on my wall and it flips and I've got all their locations through like the message
Starting point is 00:22:21 thing yeah they're all there so I can see exactly where they all are at all time wow it's really good what's that's so so th so th so th so that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's th so th so you you you th so you th so you th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th that's that's that's th th th th th th th th th th th th th th tho wow tho wow th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th that that that that that that that that that that that that that that the the the the the the thou tho tho tho tho their thing. Yeah they're all there so I can see exactly where they all are at all times. Oh wow. It's really good. What's that app? It's just widgets that you get on your own screen on your iPhone and you can just put the widget of like... For location so it's so nice. My eldest is pretty good, but it's nice if I wake up at like 2 a am or whatever I can just glance at my phone and see that she's at this address. Yeah. Oh you know a mate's house. And it hasn't come back on her that she goes, but you were the ultimate ladette. I know where you were going. You used to go out all night before the radio on breakfast show. I've not even got to get up to broadcast to 10 million people. Sometimes there's a bit of sassy syndrome. it used to be where she was a bit more sensible she'd come down and me and my friends if we'd had a party or whatever might still be up or something. Well that was a lot of time. Are they still got remember that time you're really drunken to be for me for me their mom you were so funny about the pool in the morning. Oh god. That was ages ago I really want to do a man in a the their. their. their. their. their. their. I their. I their. I their. I their. I their. I their. I their. I their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their th. I th. I might. I might. I th. I might. I might. I might. I their. I th. I was still still still still still. I was still. I was still. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was still. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was still. I was still. I was still. I was still. I was still. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was still still. I was. I was still still t. I was still tel. I was still. I was a t. I was a to do a men in black in front of their eyes. I forget that. But now,
Starting point is 00:23:26 yeah, I guess with their outfits, I'm fully, you know, as a parent, when your kids are growing up and they're finding their own style, your stock responses, you look amazing, babe, you look great. My mum always said it to me when I was going out in my terrible like second and fake leopard print leather jackets and John Lennon sunglasses. She'd be like, you look great. She must be like, ah ha ha ha ha in the back bed, behind my back. And now I'm like fully encouraging with my kits. I'm like, you look awesome. But if there's quite a lot of cleavage happening sometimes, I don't have a leg to stand on because you can literally Google me falling at the netbar with you know looking like I've got Bill and Grant Mitchell don't me dress and can just be like evidence present to the court so yeah you can't really say much go did you no no not gonna like
Starting point is 00:24:15 them are they interested in your work and your past because I think your career is quite interesting did like radio one you did 1, you did the girlie show of course, and then you're now kind of radio to your, I mean, you're closing in on National Treasure here, Sarah, if you're not careful. Oh no, you're closing in on it. My 35, shut up. But respect from like being an author and Sunday Times besteller, it's like you've sort of covered all bases of entertainment really, haven't you? And broadcasting. it's just my single to be released now and then I've taken them all today. It'll be a long time coming there'll be a lot of
Starting point is 00:24:53 auto tune on that bad boy so yeah they're kind of interested I mean they're just so used to it they're just a bit like oh oh is is your book out? They don't really care, you know. Have they read it? No, no one's read the book. My husband's not read any of my books. No, my wife's not read either of mine. It's unbelievable. Unbelievable. I mean.
Starting point is 00:25:14 It's really weird, isn't it? So did you present it to her? It's really little. She could get a copy. There's about 65 in my office. Same one for a Josh and I'll be like, she doesn't really read. She just looks at her phone in bed. But would you want your husband sat reading your book next to you in bed? That's a weird thing, isn't it? It's like my memoir. Well, I mean, it's not red eyes. I tell you what, I wrote that the memoir is basically about my dad and my dad hasn't read it.
Starting point is 00:25:47 So, really? In existence is a book about him that is not read. Well, yeah, that was Till the Cowes come home. Yeah, obviously he's a beef farmer. That was in 2018, but your new one is thrown. That's your new novel. So this is your first novel. Yeah. This is now in paperback but and this is crucial Sarah it says here very importantly that you're a Sunday Times bestseller for fiction now. Yes, that's level up in it.
Starting point is 00:26:13 Anyone can knock out of memoir. This is proper work. Was it tough? Yeah. Was it tough? Yeah. He was he got to he got to number two in the best sellers. I can't. I know. Osmond. It's got to be Osmond. It's a a a a the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the to he got to number two in the best sellers task I can I know. Osmond it's got to be Osmond. Kim Richard Osmond. It's gonna be awesome. That's what I was thinking I can't remember and then you know there's quite a few songs like that were kept off the top spot. Yeah last Christmas was kept off the top spot by last Christmas was kept off the top spot. I comfort myself with that yeah it was a Vienna kept off I think. By Richard Osmond? By Richard Osmond's brother. Those Osmond's brother.
Starting point is 00:26:55 Those Osmond's are everywhere. Donnie Osmond was number one as well. Oh don't get me going on the Osmans, Jesus. I did, years ago I did family fortune to get to Osmine family in the first. Yeah. the first the first the first the first the the the to the to to the to to to the to to to to the to to to the to to to the to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to toener kept toener kept toen kept toen kept toen kept toen kept toen kept toen kept toen kept toe. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.. Yeah............................... Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It. Yeah. It. It. It. It. It. It's. Yeah. It. Yeah. Yeah did, years ago I did family fortunes against the Osmond family. And the first three rows of the audience were all Osmond fans, all women, that was with the scarves and stuff. And every answer I gave, silence when it was correct and stuff, and me and my family, we were basically trolled by Usman fans.
Starting point is 00:27:22 Oh wow. And whenever they answered, they were like, hey, all these mad women. It's amazing. So Throne is a novel about four women at, should I give the pitch? What do you do? And see if you're right or not, Josh? Sarah can judge you.
Starting point is 00:27:37 Four women in a apocalyptic future in 2030. No. No. I'm writing that down for the next one. It's pretty good that. God, I've got these ideas, you see. So it's about four women meeting for a pottery class, right? Yes.
Starting point is 00:27:57 Yes. It's set like, north of Manchester, basically set in Bolton on a housing estate. I grew up half of my mom's and half on the farm where my dad was. We left a farm of six considered divorce and it's sort of an estate similar to one where I grew up and nobody really knows each other anymore like they used to and people are sort of busy get on with their own lives and then this woman called Becky who runs a community center she wins a grant to start this pottery class. And that was a nice way just to bring these four women together and for them to become firm friends and to help each other through all sorts of like suspected infidelity.
Starting point is 00:28:34 And another couple who are desperate for a baby, one who's got a bit of internet syndrome and actually wants to start a new life abroad. There's a horrible X comes in. There's a very sexy Scottish pottery teacher. I had to write a couple of fruity scenes. Did you? Oh? Oh! Oh! Oh, I'm then I'm not to read in the audio book. I'll never do that again. Is there a line that sticks in your mind that you've struggled with? Yeah, what is it? to be? the the book? the the. the book here? Yeah, what is it? Oh. Yeah? Oh. Yeah? Oh. Yeah? Oh. Yeah? Oh. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh, the the the the the the the the th. Oh. Oh, the the the the the the the the the the the the. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh.. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh.... Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh, the. Oh, the. Oh, the. Oh, the. Oh, the. the. Oh, the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. Oh, the. Oh, the. Oh, the. can. You can. Come on, Sarah. It's rude. It's okay. What page is it on? And I'll read it. I'll read it out. You've got the book here. I've got the PDF here. Where is it? Okay, so it'll be Jamila and it's when her husband comes home from work. One thing leads to another. Oh. Yeah and one thing leads to another, Barb. The final... Who are you picturing with the sexy husband? No, not sexy. the the the the the the the th. I I I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I' the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. I'll the the the th. I'll th. I'll the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. I. I th. I th. I th. I th. I'll th. I'll th. I'll th. th. the. thea. thea. thea. th. thea. tho. th. thea. th. I th. I the the the the the th. to another. Yeah and one thing leads to another, Barb to find out... Who are you picturing with the sexy husband? No, not sexy pottery teacher, because he's Scottish. A little bit, 1980s, Marty Pello. Oh, holy! I can see it. I would say a little bit, do you mean a lot? Yeah. Well, yeah,, but it's got to be H's Pello. It's Marty Pello, yeah. Sexy, serious, but creative. Yeah. Twinkly, I mean, don't look into his eyes. He'll twinkle you to death. I've lost many friends over the years. You're looking directly in the eye.
Starting point is 00:29:57 Have you got it there, Sarah? Because I've got a pretty sexy voice as we're all aware of this. You're allowed to give me a minute, but I'm sure it'll be worth it once we find it. Find a page. It's quite rude though, Josh. You sure? You might have to fill out a form after wait. I'll blush. Oh, oh my word. Oh, Sarah. What have you found? Oh, though. to read this? Oh, though. to read this. tho, the the the the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. to the to the the the th. the the th. th. It's. It's. It's to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the page. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It's. It. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's to. It's ta. ta. to. ta. to. to. to. to. th. th. th. to. th. It's to. It's th. It's th. It's? Oh my word! We've already built this. You had to read this? Oh yeah. I was like, you know what, I did it in one take because I'm like, I'm not bloody doing this twice, because it's so embarrassing. Did you look up towards the producer? No, and he was like mid-twenties. It was basically the same name and age as one of my nephews
Starting point is 00:30:46 and I was like, just... He looked like a young Marty Pello. Just you two and a run together and you're reading this as he recalls it. Yeah, he's so wrong. Should we get Nando's after this? Okay, here we go. He presented. She missed the sex. Sex. Sari. That can't be the n nn the nn the nn the nn. the nn. the nn. the nn. the n n n n n n n n na. th. th. th. th. th th th th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. the. thi. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. He looked like th. He th. He th. He th. He th. He th. He th. He th. He th. He th. He th. He th. He th. He th. He th. He th. He th. He th. He th. He th. He th. He th. He the. He the. He the. He the. He the. He the. He the. He the. He the. He looked the. He looked like the. He looked like the. He looked like the. He looked like the. used to sex. Oh my word, Sarah. But no, that can't be the naughty bit, the word sex. No wonder you didn't want your daughters to read this.
Starting point is 00:31:11 Go on, Josh. This is fun watching you cringe. She missed the sex they used to have when they moved in together. His hands on her... Be sexier, Josh? Yeah. What do you mean? Come on, give it a bit of... How did you do it, Sarah? I didn't want to sound like I'm being sarcastic. Right. His hands on her as soon as he was through the door from work. A kiss, hello, turning hotter. Him pulling down her knickers roughly, pushing his fingers into her, his long searching fingers.
Starting point is 00:31:39 He'd always known just where to thouch her. It was these moments she thought of in the shower. Oh, do you know what? It's very well written, Sarah. It is, isn't it? Did you get more raunchy than that? Or is that? How much, did you get notes on that? Or did they wave that bit through first draft? Go, you've nailed that. They were like, With the glowy bit on the end. The glowing bit, that's right, he knows exactly where to hear.
Starting point is 00:32:07 Oh, so that was intense to read. Are we tough in the audio book? That was incredible, Josh. I will never forget that. Thanks, guys. That was a beautiful moment. If you want that edited into the audio book, then. I can't work if that's going that's going that's going that's going that's going that's going that's going that's going that's going that's going that's going that's going that's going that's going that's going to to to to to to to to to to to to be to to be to be to be to be to to to to be to be to be to be to be. to be. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. the the the the the to. the the too. the too. the the te. te. the the te. the te. thea. tooo. too. too. too. too. to. to. to. to. to make people want to buy it more or less Josh doing it. Just say, no, Josh doesn't do the whole book. No.
Starting point is 00:32:26 Do you do the voices? Like, did you do different accents? Oh, don't. Another lesson I learned. So the first one was don't write sex scenes in. The second one was don't have a bloody Scottish person unless you can do it. So I was like, can'm at risk of being cancelled by Scotland if I try and do. And then I'm like, can we not just get like Edioph Bowman in a summit just to come in
Starting point is 00:32:51 and do those like, bits where Sasha speaks powerly, that's not a thing. So in the end, well then they were like just for the audio book alone making not Scottish but I think Scots are quite sexy. You made him Jamaican it was much worse actually, wasn't it? Yeah, so he's sexy and exotic isn't it Scotland's a five-hour drive to Bolton. So what did you do? Well, did you do a Scottish accent? No, because I would get cancelled. I mean... Hey, we're mad! I've only got that extreme version if he's trying to be sexy in the pottery.
Starting point is 00:33:26 This is it. Oh, so it was awful. I'm getting like sweaty mode thinking about it. So I didn't want to change the character to where it was from because I just liked having a Scottish character in there. So luckily he traveled a lot so he worked in L. Israel, he worked everywhere with his car unian. He sounded like a Mancunian woman. He's kind of like transatlantic weird Bolton like, oh it's just terrible. Really? I'm sure it's amazing. So lessons learned. And so your children haven't read it? No. Quite rightly. Yeah. It's a bit saucy, isn't it for you?
Starting point is 00:34:05 Oh yeah, I mean. All girls you've got, or boys as well? I've got a girl boy girls, so. How old are you? You two are in like deep parenting, aren't you? I'm in deep. Rob's in, Rob can get his feet on the're nearly there. And I'm five and one. I'm not jaded like you are, Sarah. Cool, I mean.
Starting point is 00:34:28 To be honest, you've got, it's lovely when they're little, but it's amazing when they're big. Because there is an element of like, like, yesterday, the middle and the little what had gone to the cinema together, and they were going to get home on their their their their their their and the little what had gone to the cinema together and they were going to get home on the tube and stuff and all fine they just poot all on their own on the 12 and 14 year old? 1240 because they get the tube to school every day and they can mate about a bit. Eldest one was off out or whatever. Me and us then were just chilling and I was like reading and stuff simply in that bookshort. I'm constantly reading at the moment. And we were actually reminiscing, quite God, remember when the kids were little, when we got an hour like this,
Starting point is 00:35:09 which is totally normal to us now to be in the house by ourselves, we were like paralyzed by the possibility of what we could do with an hour of freedom and you're like, we've got 47 minutes left before they get back by grandma or whatever and it was so like amazing to not have the responsibility of little kids but and as they get older you get that so much now that you don't really notice when you've got that. You know it's like it's just lovely when they get bigger when you just hang out with them you can have a laugh you can call them a knobbed you know you can't really do that to the face and they little you could do it behind their bags. No, what's their the when you just called your child a knobbed and thought, that was fine?
Starting point is 00:35:45 Probably like 11. Yeah, secondary school. You can knobbed them off, right? Oh, you've forgot your peak, oh you knobbed. Yeah, exactly. Right, you're like, you're nobid and jubbied. Come here. not like F in and Jeffin. Yeah I'm not F and Jeffin because my mom said the F word when I got my air level results and I never forget how devastated I was it. Because it was bad? Yeah I was just like mom. Oh fuck it's like I'm so proud. Oh I thought
Starting point is 00:36:15 she was off of facts like that shit's there. Although it was good it was good it was good what the fuck is like what the fuck are the fucking. What the fuck are those three results? I like it, I think it shows that she was clearly very surprised that she used such a strong expleted that I've done it all right. So I don't use F words. My boy who's 14 sometimes swears when he's gaming and stuff. I'll be like, do I do, take it down a little bit to a little bit more, I'll do it down like a bit more online gaming a bit more, aren't they, where girls are messaging more, but the boys are definitely playing more games I think, with the girls message, the messaging and the WhatsApp groups and
Starting point is 00:36:54 stuff with the teenage girls. Yeah, so it's pretty similar really because there's that my daughter was on a lot and it's sometimes on and that's why she's on there with her group of mates from school. Yeah. What's the same is I'm, it's lucky both of them have got a really strong group of close mates. So that's really nice. And actually I hang out with my son more than with my little one. With my little one I'll have to grab her and make her come and hang out and make her do something like a bit of baking or going off and doing something whereas my son's kind of sweet and he's 40 he's six foot one and that's the mad thing. Wow. Because I'm like five eight and a half and when your child over teacher so two of them are taller than me know my daughter's probably like five ten yeah and my son is yeah son is, yeah, six one, no toller than his dad. Yeah, oh wow.
Starting point is 00:37:48 And it's not there yet, but when they play fight, my husband's a bit like, Jesus, oh! Yeah. And then he has to really get in under a proper dead arm, you know, because it's getting that like, you know, that battle for who's like head of the herd kind of thing because my son's, you know, he's getting big. He's like, it's so funny, this little gorgeous little pudding that used to just toddle about. He's now just like a geese, he's a bloke. I'm always grabbing his legs, like, look at his legs. Look at his legs. Look at these their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their the's the's the's th. He's the. He's the. He's the. He's the. He's thi. He's thi. I's thi. I's thi. He's thi. He's thi. He's th. He's th. He's th. He's th. He's th. He's th. He's th. He's th. He's th. He's th. He's th. He's th. He's th. He's the, he's the, he's the. He's getting the. He's getting the. He's getting theeeateeate. He's getting theeeeeeeeate. He's getting big theeeate. He's getting big the. He mates all around, his mates around, you go, look at your legs! Look at his legs, look how big he's legs are. Hey, I tell you what he brings
Starting point is 00:38:31 up all the time. I think it really did damage it was when I bit his bum because he's always like, remember when he bit my bum and I always like, oh yeah, God, you really remember that? How old is 14? Yeah, 14? Yeah, last week. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. Yeah, he's, he, he, he, he, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he's, I, he's, I, I, I, I, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. I's, th. I's, th. Look, th. th. th. th. the the the the the the the the th. th. th. How old is he? Yeah, 14 last week. No, he was like five or six or someone was climbing up onto his top bunk and he was messing about with someone. I just grabbed his bum, took a big bite of his bum. He was like, ah! The kind of thing to do when they're like squidgy little babies and then they get to that age like, what are you doing? And then you go I don't know. I'm just little about. So enjoy that. You're still in that you're still in that age where you can just squidge him about and bite them and blow you can't blow raspberries on a 14 year old tummy. You know so enjoy it. You want to say well a fresh start for students. New classmates, new teachers, new lessons.
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Starting point is 00:39:55 And we'd like to tell you about our new podcast, gig pigs. Alex and I have been watching live music together for years, so we've decided to compromise this hobby and potentially our friendship by to to to. Every episode we'll be going to a gig and then discussing it afterwards with the friends who came along to third wheel us. Asking questions like, did you enjoy the gig? Did you enjoy the gig profoundly change your relationship with live music? Did the cloakroom to the cloak've been to Franz Ferdinand with Rosemountifa and Emma City, Kendrick Lamar with Phil Wang and the cure with Celia A. B. And next month we're going with Ed Gamble to watch Napalm Death. Episodesodes are out from this Thursday and every Thursday
Starting point is 00:40:35 thereafter until attending live music once a week with a different guest becomes logistically impossible. We have no idea how soon that could be, so join us now by going to a preferred podcast platform and searching gigpigs. Do you feel emotional when you think about them being small kids? Do you go, oh I miss that or are you too much enjoying the fact that you can sit around reading books? Well, you know what, he's really good. You know, at the moment, or the last month month or whatever, when your phone keeps chucking up old pictures. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:08 And it's put together all these albums. It's just constantly, you know, when I open my phone, there are just little random picks of the kids when they're little. And if anything, that makes me feel a bit like, oh, look. You know, because they were just like, there's a picture of them on the Isle of White ferret so I had the dog that we had at the time with us and the kids and the kids I reckon are like two four and eight and it's clearly freezing but they're grinning like they've got the puffer coast with the roofs up and I took a picture of him on the rough seas like just standing at the deck of the ferry and that popped up and I was like they're just just to to their to their to th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. their their th. th. thi. their thi. thi. thi. their thi. thi. thi. I was. I was. thi. I was just just just just just just told. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's the the the they. they. they. they. they. the the the th. th. So th. So, th. t. So, t. too. too. too. too. So, the too. So, the the th. I'm their thi. I was. I's thin.there on the deck of the ferry and that topped up and I was like, it was so cute
Starting point is 00:41:45 you know, because they're just so happy with any, everything's an adventure at that age and that's what's kind of lovely. But then equally now we went to South Africa over back end of Christmas and New Year and stuff and we went to a botanical garden and they loved it and they were interested whereas a few years ago it would have been a tired.... th. th. th. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they they they they they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're. they're. they're. they're. they're. they're. they're. they're. they're. they're. they're. they're. they're. they're. they're. they're. they're. they're. they're. they're. they're. they're. they're. they're. they're. they're. Yeah. they're. they. they. I. I. I. they. I. tied. I te. I'm te. I'm just just just just just te. I'm just just just. I'm just just. I'm just just. I'm just so so. I'm just. I'm just. I'm just. I'm they're just. I'm they're t. it and they were interested whereas a few years ago it would have been a bit like we're tired can we drink scooters oh it's boring what are we here for? Yeah I want to go to a soft play center or something yeah soft play center and just find it a cinema in Johannesburg okay let's take him cinema let's go watch trolls too again well we went on one of our family holidays in Devon when when we were there the weather was really bad and the weather the weather the weather the weather the weather the weather the weather the weather the weather the weather the the the the weather the the the the weather the the the weather the the the weather the th. th. the weather was really bad and we were sat in basically a massive industrial unit that was a trampoline park. Oh my god those places and we I booked an Abeth and Villa for the year after while sitting in that industrial trampoline
Starting point is 00:42:34 park. I'm not doing this again. We had so many holidays like and I'm sure you guys are deep in that. Yeah. Me and Lou do that. We go through phase of going, well the weather's always lovely in the UK in August, let's just enjoy the UK. And then you do that and go, fuck this, it's raining again. Why didn't we just book a holiday? Like never again. Did you find time for stuff like reading and all that stuff? Or did you find when you were kids suddenly got old you were like, wow, I can get all my hobbies back, I can do stuff. Yeah, I mean I got a horse. That's when I play. Oh really? Right, yeah, they're big and now I'd. And when I got a, uh... What age were your kids when you got a horse? Not that I want to get a horse, but my version of the horse. What age? What is your version of the horse? Yeah, the season ticket. What's my version? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, the. Yeah, the. the. the. Yeah, the. Yeah, the the the the the the the the the the the the the away, yet the season to be the one. It's probably cheaper to buy a player for Plinoph and the whole have a horse.
Starting point is 00:43:30 I don't think that's very funny. But yeah. I think the youngest was like nine. Oh, for the love of God. Do they ride as well? Well, the eldest can a bit. But they weren't massively into it and I would have been really forcing it and it was expensive you know to take them for lessons and that if they're not that into it then
Starting point is 00:43:51 but you know my son can skateboard a bit and my husband used to skateboarding so I'm always like babe be careful because my husband's like come here I can show you have to do a to do a bit of that the the their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their to their their their to to to their their to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their too. their their too too their too toe. toe. to be to be to be to be to be to be to how to do a bit of that. And he's like knocking. I used to skateball 23 years ago, let's go. Let's get back on the half pipe. Exactly. He's 47 and he's like, yeah, let me just have it. I'm just that, oh my God, his bones must be so hollow compared to it. When he was a team, please be careful. But yeah, no, they've all got their stuff that they're into, but I've not forced them into the ride. And do you try and get into their stuff?
Starting point is 00:44:27 Are you trying to be cool and down with the kids? Are you offering opinions on TikTok? No, not really. Like, the one the one tick-tock of mine that did really well was Oh that one. Yeah it's cute. Well you dress as your kids. Yeah that's that little trend where you go my mom yeah but they put your age as well don't they? Did she put your age? That's the thing they do. They'll be like my so-and-so age dad dressed up as me. I always feel like the age is too far. Just say my parent. We know they're older. We know they're they're. they're. they're they're they're they're they're they're old. they're old. they're old. I their. I their. They're their their their age. I their age. I their age. I're their age. I're the age. the age. the age is the age is the age is the age is the age is the age is the age is the age is the age is the age is the age is the age is the age is the age is the age is the age is the age is the age is the age is the age is the age is the age is the age is the age. the age. I are. I are. I are. I are. I are. I are. I are. I are. I are. I are. I are. I're their age. I're their age. I their age. I'm their age is too. I're too. too. too. too. too. too. today. try. today. try. today. today. their's around something between 20 and 40 years older than you are. Why do you have to put the exact number? Yeah, I don't know if my age is on there.
Starting point is 00:45:10 I mean it wasn't that different, you know, I don't really try and get into their stuff too much really. I mean, my husband's funny because my husband's a massive hip hop. And so he's thrilled that with th. th. th. thi thi thi thi thi thi thi their thi thi, thi, thi, thi, they's thi, they's thi, thi, they's thi, thi, they's thi, they's they's they're thi, thi, they're tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, th. I's th. I's th. I's th. I's th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, they're thin, thin, thooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo. I th. I that, and so he's thrilled that without any pushing at my son is now really into hip-hop that's just a music that is drawn to and he loves it's cute he can like you know they can like enjoy a bit of rap music together because my husband knows all the lyrics I like rap and hip hop but some of the words like there's a lot of swearing in it it's like Sarah Cox doing her audio book sometimes Yeah I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I like they they they they they they they they they they they they they like they they like they like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like they they're like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like they're like they're like they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they're like like like like like like like like like like like like like like they're they're they're like they're like they're like they're like they're like th th th th. th. th like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like, it's like Sarah Cox doing her audio book sometimes. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:45 But they love it, because they really like sort of bass and big beats and stuff like that. So they're like, oh, we like this one. That like, baseline junkie by Dizzy Raskin' on. And he goes, he goes, play that fucking bass on that. Put some backin' the bass on the bass. Okay, good, I'm trying to like dip the volume. He's in Magalomba, it's like, I don't want no candy, I don't want no code and all that, yeah, and like the kids are singing along the other. So, listing drugs, saying, bitch, fuck off, fuck you, baseline junkie.
Starting point is 00:46:14 I don't want smack, basses my drug and all that. I don't know if there be like it always comes up as explicit. Don't be such a square with you with your Christian versions of hip pop songs. That face-flying junkie song. Have you got one that's about loving God? Because it could be like Jesus junkie instead. Yes. Jesus walks by Kanye West. Well now on Fun Kids UK which we used to listen to quite a bit, they will have, like, it's all the pop music, but like do a Leapers rules, you know, like one, don't pick up the phone, you know, I don't kind of like,
Starting point is 00:46:55 but instead of like drunk and a lot of any of like, Fun Kids UK. Yeah, so Fun Kids UK is a radio station and they re-record so it sounds so similar or they might just re-record certain bits of the verse it's really clever they do it and you're like hang on that's not right because instead of like one to pick up the phone is you know it's only calling because you're drunk and alone or whatever right but instead it would be like you know you're playing yo you're alone you're you're playing yo you're alone alone you know you're a toy? It's a very very th you cute. Oh that's fun kids. Do you record the whole vocal or does it just change to like,
Starting point is 00:47:28 yeah, you know when it's dubbed over so it's really good and there's like playing yo-yo over the top or is it? Request a song? Does it work? Yeah, it's really clever. It's really funny. We were banging to, uh, fun kids. Right. OK. OK. There we would try. try. try. try. on there, like I show. You can request a song Friday nights, right? So I might ask for baseline junkie by Dizzy Rascal to see what she can do with it, this lady. Bex.
Starting point is 00:47:52 I don't want no biscuits. I don't want no Chris. I don't want no Kit. Have you had the sex chat and the birds and the bees, you've also got to add in sexting and you've got to add in consent. And all the big issues, you know, alongside the, you know, to my eldest, obviously, you know, keeping an eye on a drink so she doesn't get a drink spiked, you know, to all the kids about what to do if you get mugged, that might be very much a big city thing. So it's, you know, it goes way beyond the birds and the bees sort of stuff. God, that's... Which is quite heavy, you know, I'm
Starting point is 00:48:38 worried that I haven't got the... That's, I'm not going to feel comfortable. Is that a kind of thing you were comfortable? When do you ever feel comfortable though, Josh? I never feel comfortable, I'll feel particularly uncomfortable, particularly uncomfortable. Although you meant that sex scene, you're so over it, you see pretty. Oh, he love that. Maybe I could just read that to her. He's fine with fingering, he's fine. Anything more than that, he can't deal with it. Yeah, your next novel, give me a shout. That would be so good if just Josh's voice, if your voice just came in. I love that. For all the rude bits. Can you do a Scottish accent? No, I can't do Scottish accent, sorry. But yeah, no, you'll be fine because by then you'll have been through all the stages
Starting point is 00:49:28 of parenting. Yeah. And also at school they get taught a lot of sex educated. They're aware of it slightly as well. It's sort of a group effort. It's not just you call with this sort of innocent kid. So I've got one question I did need to ask you, Sarah on parenting, tha, to parent and my daughter's gymnastics who trades quite a lot on being a good mate of yours. Oh this is good. Interesting, I'm leaning in.
Starting point is 00:49:50 Yeah, and I want to just check if they are good mates with you. Are you good friends with a man called David Laube? Oh yeah, I am. He's nice-sung's godfather. He came in strong, just questioned him. I didn't question him, I'm just like, I just need to double check this. These are godfather to your son. Yeah, he's one of Ben's oldest mate. They used to have a bath together, ask him about that.
Starting point is 00:50:15 Really? He got putting the bath together when they were little, having sleepover. After 30 from skateboarding. You can also use his other name which is Ravid. Ravid? Because he'd always be the one still going when we're like, Look is over. Yes. It's over. You know, stop now. I'll call him raveed on Sunday morning. That's why all the parents in the East End, like where you live, Victoria Parkway, we want to talk to each other. They're all old school ravers. They love it. We still still still still still still still still still still still still still still still still. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all the final the the the the the their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. their their. the the the the the the the their their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. their their their their their their their their their th. th. their their their th. th. th.talk to each other. They're all old-school ravers. They love it. Rob. We're all still up. Oh the final question Sarah we always ask, it's a two-pronged one. Basically, what's the one thing that your partner does parenting wise that really winds you up and you sort of clash
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Starting point is 00:51:30 if you clean up after and you'll be clean up after them forever you'll be going to visit her at uni and then tid in the kitchen. This is it I'm like it's our job to it's our job it's our job it's our job it's our job it's our job it's our job it's our job to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to raise our job. It's our job it's our job. It's our job it's our job it's our job it's our job it's our job it's our job it's our job it's our job it's our job it's our to raise to raise to raise to raise to raise our our our job it's our job it's our job it's our job it's our job. to raise our job. to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the their job. their job. their job. their job. their job. their job. to to to to to their job. to to their job. their job. to their job. their job. their job. to their job. their their job. their their job. the eventually into society they'll be able to like make Hassani and be like you know. So you do talk about him like you're releasing a lion back into the world like you're never gonna see him again. Is that once I release them you know I'll never see him ever again? I'm born free like well yeah he won't recognize him you know and I'll chase them away like I tell you what he does my husband's amazing and he's a brilliant, brilliant dad. And he's such a good dad that he doesn't really like being the bad guy. So what he'll do is he will wind me up so much about something.
Starting point is 00:52:15 So that I then go and have a go at the kids about it. And he'll stand behind me going like, God, she's mad today. I don't know what's got into sorry kids. You know what I mean? My mom's got a good saying about, you know, he'll load the gun and I'll fire it. Oh yes. Like he'll get me so wound up. And then he's a bit like, not that bad. She did tidy earlier. And I'm like, what? You've just been texting me at work? Get me all head off. Yeah and then he's the good guy. So that's bad. That is bad. Isn't that a bit of a thing though. Don't you have that with your other up? So.
Starting point is 00:52:49 Never heard of that before. No. In any functional relationship I've never heard of that out. But no, I recognize that behavior. In any relationship that's lasted. Yeah. And the good thing is I mean he's just Mr. Taxi man. He's really really really really really really really. He's really. He's really. He's really. He's really. He's really. He's really. He's really. He's really. the their. their. He's. He's really. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. their. their. their. their. their. He's. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's the. He's. He's. He's. He's the. He's the. He's the. He's the. He's the. He's the. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's Taxi Man, he's really good. Well I'm like, they can get six buses, two tubes of train and the hovercraft. They'll be fine, they're grown up. And he'll go and pick them up from, because my kids go to school in center of town, their mates are from all over London. So he'll be like, you know, there'll be a birthday try, the their. their. their. like you know he's got a schlep off at a Chelsea or somewhere at like 11 o'clock on a Saturday night. And that can be like an hour drive. You know what I mean? In London it's mad, isn't it?
Starting point is 00:53:29 You know what I mean? In London? It's just maddened. It's. Mega taxi man, fair enough. Yeah. Sarah, thank you so much and good luck with the paperback release. Hopefully you get back to number one rather than second. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, this is the time Osmond's gonna be sweating it. Osmond's giving you a quote though. Yeah, really that's nice. Yeah, he's a nice. It wasn't. It's a th. It's a comp. It's a comp. It's a comp. It's a comp. It's a competitor. It's a comp. It's a comp. It's a competitor. It's a th. It's a th. It's a th. It's a th. It's a th. It's a th. It's a th. It. It. It. It. to. to. It's. It's. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. It's. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's just. It's just. It's just. It's just. It's just. It's. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. to. to. to. to. to. to. It'sthen he gave you a quote. He knows he's got no competitors. He's the light and equivalent of publishing world.
Starting point is 00:54:08 He ain't got no one after him. He's fine. Let's give us his quote though. Throne is a gloriously big-hearted story about four women who attend their local community center pottery class. A fresh and insightful take on how change can happen through female friendships described as so full of humor and heart by Richard Osmond. No, the first bit... P.S. I love the fingering bit. No, no, his son is so full of humor and heart by Richard Osmond. Yeah, that was more than... Yeah, his one was humor and heart. I was gonna say, fucking L Richard, all right, calm down, mate. He's done a full praise, his quote was, I've got long fingers as well. But good luck with the paperback release hopefully you get to the top of the charts again, Sarah and good luck with your show on Radio 2 every day and obviously your book club review show
Starting point is 00:54:54 on BBC 2. Thanks so much for coming on. Yeah lovely thanks very much. Cheers Sarah, thanks. Cheers, Ma'a, thanks. Have a good Cheers, mate. Sarah Cox. Love Sarah Cox. Radio 2 family, me and her. Yeah, is she in the Radio 2 WhatsApp group with you? Oh, yeah, yeah, we're in there. People keep leaving it, though, awkward. Ken Bruce left the conversation.
Starting point is 00:55:15 Well, if there is a radio to present a WhatsApp, I'm not in it. Oh no, Rob. I don't don't there is. Maybe there is. No, there won't be. I don't think so. The age of some of them, they haven't got what's up. Shall I start one? I'll start one with Tony Blackburn and Wishman and Bob Harris
Starting point is 00:55:30 and work backwards from there. Oh yeah, yeah, have you got to Tony Blackburn's. Can we get Tony Blackburn. couple of kids. Oh that's great. But Sarah's great. Oh yeah, we love Sarah Cox. Throne is her book, which is out now in paperback. And her memoirs as well, I bet that's amazing. It's quite interesting that she obviously is pining for loads of animals because she's of living on that farm. Yeah, brilliant Sarah Cox.
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