Parenting Hell with Rob Beckett and Josh Widdicombe - S6 EP17: Zen and the Art of Screaming Into a Pillow...

Episode Date: March 7, 2023

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello, I'm Rob Beckett. And I'm Josh Winnockham. Welcome to Parenting Hell, the show in which Josh and I discuss what it's really like to be a parent, which I would say can be a little tricky. So, to make ourselves and hopefully you feel better about the trials and tribulations of modern-day parenting, each week we're chatting to a famous parent about how they're coping. Or hopefully how they're they're tha th hearing from you the listener with your tips, advice, and of course, tales of parenting woe. Because let's be honest, there are plenty of times when none of us know what we're doing.
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Starting point is 00:01:40 Hello, you're listening to Parent In Hell with Oliver can you say Rob Beckett? Can you say Josh Whitcomb? Josh Whitcomb? Well I'd argue that the dad said my surname wrong there. I think he's got that wrong Rob. Yeah I do too. Kid didn't stand a chance. What's that loser called? Hello Jamie here from across the pond in Grand Prairie Canada. Ah, he's fucking Canadian mate. He's all over the,. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's the, he's the, he's the, he's the, he's the, he's the, he's the, he's the the, he's the, he's the the th. thobacco. thobacco, thi. thi. Can, thi, thi. Can, thi, th. Can, the the th. Can, th. Can, th. Can, th. Can, th. Can, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi. thi. thi. thi. Can you thi. Can you thi. Can you thi. Can you thi. Can you thi. Can you thi. Can, th loser called? Hello Jamie here from across the pond in Grand Prairie Canada. Ah, he's fucking Canadian mate, he's all over the Gaff, poor fella. It's not
Starting point is 00:02:10 his fault. It's not his fault. He's fucking choking on maple syrup. This is Oliver who's four years old. Love you guys for keeping us sane with no family here. Keep it Oh he's English. Emma and Jamie. There tho' tho' theyn' th. thin, oh, oh, oh, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, th, th, th, th, th, he's all, he's all, he's all, he's all, he's all all all all their, he's all all all all all, he's all, he's all, he's all, he's all, he's all, he's all, he's all, he's all, he's all, he's all, he's all, he's all, he's all, he's all, he's all, he's all, he's all, he's all, he's all, he's all, he's all, he's all, he's all, he's all, he's all, he's all, he's all, he's all, their, their, their, they's all they's all all over, their, their, they's all over their, their, their, they's all all over their, their, their, they's all all British. Oh, do you know what I hate more than anything is when you go, you know someone's moved from the UK and they speak fully American or like Canadian or wherever they've gone and they don't realize they do? Yeah. Come on, I've kept my accent already. You can tell I'm from Liverpool. You can tell I'm from Liverpool. You've got much more than a rare accents than you use normally th. tho tho tho th and a tho tho th and a tho th and tho th and tho th and th and th or th a ray of accents than you use normally in your life. Like, I wouldn't have you down as an accent guy, but actually you've got them in your locker on. That's not a good American accent.
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Starting point is 00:03:32 What is going on? Yeah, defrosting a car. How do you do it, Rob? Well, actually, so my new one is actually quite good with the electric car is quite good at it. I don't know why. It's only little but one on the bigger car because we got a family one for like long long journeys kind of thing and when we go away. That one I half boil a kettle and pour it on. I love boiling the kettle. I love the feeling. Do you not do full boil? No, not not full boil in case I worried the screen's gonna crack. Yeah I always worry that's gonna happen. But I the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. Do. Do. Do. Do. Do. Do. Do. Do. Do. Do. Do th. Do. Do. Do. Do. Do. Do. Do. Do. Do. Do. Do. Do. Do. Do. Do. Do. Do. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I. I. I's. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. t. t. t. I'm. I'm. t. I'm. I'm. I'm. I always worry that's going to happen. But then I think it's never happened to anyone else,
Starting point is 00:04:05 so why should it happen to me? Yeah, that would definitely be on the news or like on YouTube. It'd be a thing you'd know it. That'd be on Tick-Tock, Instagram. Oh, blindly. All the old screen crackers are in the th my aunt. Yeah, and you know what I say to those people, fuck off. We're just having a bit of a laugh. Yeah, those hypothetical people that we've never met, absolutely do what.
Starting point is 00:04:34 Let's go away, just shut up, who cares? Leave us alone. Leave us alone. Stop listening. Just let us talking to each other with no one else and fucking nosing in. I tried to I try to Google it's cracked screen from Boat Kettle and I just wrote fuck off into Google. Not really fuck off actually we do need you please listen if you don't listen with completely screwed. But we do but we know we're factually incorrect all the time.
Starting point is 00:05:05 We're always factually incorrect. Bad idea, boiling in the kettle, can boiling water crack, windscreen, putting boiling water and frozen windscreen will not cause the windscreen to shatter. Yes, here we go. That's a vehicle windshield. Shove your emails up your fucking ass. Yeah, fucking cuttowar. Yeah, fucking cuttie. off, fold it up, stick it in your bum. That's what you should do. And then scan your arso and then send it in as a PDF, you fucking losers. Okay, vehicle windshields are constructed using laminated safety glass, which is a piece of poly vinyl, bootrel. Right,
Starting point is 00:05:35 now this is boring podcast. Between two, but yeah, it's absolutely fine, mate. So fuck off. But I still wouldn't fully boil it, Josh. I'm not confident enough. I love it, it just works so well. It's the best, isn't it? It's incredible. It's one of those jobs that make you feel like a grown-up man. Yeah. Like a dad. It's like I'm a dad. I'm a bloody dad here. And I'm boiling a kettle to put on the windscreen, and then I've run out of water, so I'm doing the side windows with my bloody oyster card. Let's have it. Have you still got an oyster card? No, I've got. What have I got?
Starting point is 00:06:11 I've barely got cards now, Rob, because I've got Apple pay and I've got a loyalty card to the toy shop around the corner. That's literally it. Yeah. Yeah. using your phone now to scrape it. That's the problem, yeah. That's the problem. Apple haven't dealt with that, really, have they? That's the thing. You know, you get rid of certain technology and you lose a bit, you lose a bit. Yeah. But anyway, I'm all good, a bit annoyed, it was cold. I went on, I did an interview on BBC Radio London at 830 AM, that I forgot about until 825 I am, for the W... For the W.. Why, the W. Why, the W. Why, th. Why, th. Why, th. Why, th. Why, th. Why, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. It, th. It, th. It's, th. It's, th. It's, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you's, you's, you's, you. That's, you. That's, you. That's, you. That's, you. That's, you. That's, you. That's, you. That's, I's, I's, I's. That's, I's. It's. It's. It's, I's. It's, th. It's, th. It's, th. It's, th. It's, th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's thi. It's th. It's th. It'sy shows. Oh, good on you Rob, thank you. Yes, no, because we do it, well the tour, Parenting Hell, live the tour is hitting arenas soon.
Starting point is 00:06:50 Wembly Arena and Nottingham Arena, there are tickets left, every else is near enough sold out. Yeah, there's a few in Manchester. Oh, the first one as well that would be when you're the first 30 seconds of that of me and Josh is shit in ourselves. Oh my god that's the one to go to isn't it? No, all them are. Actually I'll say a lot of stuttering. I said not going on the ones I'd want to get tickets for but that's just me not even when I'm the ones I London and the presenter was losing her mind because she knows she's just going to get text about ULES all day. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. And she would all that the mayor will message you and I was like bring it. Sadiq Khan? Sadiq? Sadiq? Sadiq? Sadiq. Sadiq? Sadiq? Sadiq. Sadiq. Sadiq. Sadiq the the theykkkkk theyk their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their the mayor the mayor the mayor the mayor the mayor the mayor the mayor. S. Sadiqq. Sadiq. Sadiq. Sadiq. Sadiq. Sadiq. Sadiq. Sadiq. Sadiq. Sadiq. Sadiq. Sadiq. Sadiq. Sadiq. Sadiq. Sadiq. Sadiq. Sadiq. Sadiq. Sadiq. Sadiq. Sadiq. Sadiq. Sadiq. Sadiq. Sadiq. Sadiq. Sadiq. Sadiq. Sadiq. Sadiq. Sadiq. Sadiq. Sadiq. Sadiq. Sadiq. Sadiq. Sadiq. Sadiq. Sadiq. Sadiq. Sadiq. Sadiq. Sadiq. Sadiq. Sadiq. Sadiq. Sadiq. Sadiq. Sadiq. Sadiq. Sadiq. Sadiq. Sadiq. Sadiq. Sadiq. Sadiq. Sadiq. Sadiq. Sadi zone, Sadiq. Wembley Arena, if you fancy it, there's still a few tickets available, it is now. Oh is it? Go to Nottingham then, Sadiq. Well, they're spreading it out.
Starting point is 00:07:49 It'll probably be a knotting them soon. And currently I'm parenting as we speak Rob she's off ill. Rose is busy this morning. So anytime my daughter is currently on our bed. I've had with Pepper Pig on an iPad. Yes okay classic. She wanted to read a book about space and have the iPad and I'll be honest the book about space it got thrust aside within 30 seconds of her sitting down in favor of pepper pig on the iPad. It's going to be pepper pig all day, let her crack on with it mate. Yeah exactly. So she can come in a moment.
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Starting point is 00:08:56 I just sort of did that as a joke. and I wouldn't mean. That's a bit weird, isn't it? It's too late now. I had to say something. I had to say something, mate. I was on the tell. She's been watching a very good show that I watched her yesterday called Get Well Soon, which is hosted by Dr. Ranch. Yeah, yeah. And it's about like illness and injury and stuff.
Starting point is 00:09:25 I think it's going to her head. I think she's, I think she's thinking too much about illness and so she's, she's ill now. She's ill now. Or she thinks she's ill now. Do you know what I mean? Oh no. Yeah, is it munch houses syndrome? I'm in a horrible mood. I basically if I didn't, I didn't, I didn't, I didn few days off this week I sort of I become like I like winding people up I'm very annoying. You need to perform don't you Rob. Yeah I need to get I've got an energy in me that has to get out. I have to purge and I used to have to scream into a pillow but yeah I do need to sort of... Are we going to dig into that a bit more? What, the old pillow scream? Yeah, well we just go to float past so you have to scream into a pillow as a kid? No! No? No. I wouldn't describe that as one of your eternal observations, Rob. Yeah, so it would be get too much and I'd just scream until I was exhausted then I'll pass out. Right. Oh, is that, is that okay? Well? Well, I'd to to have to have to scream, you you you you you you you you you to have to have to scream, you to have to scream, you to scream, you to scream, you to have to scream, you to scream, you to scream, you have to have to scream, you're to have to have to have to scream, you're just scream, you're to scream, you're just scream to scream to scream to scream to scream to scream to scream to scream to scream to scream to scream to scream to scream to scream to scream to scream to scream to scream to scream to scream to scream to scream to scream to scream to scream to scream to scream, I to scream, I to scream, I to scream, I to scream, I to scream, I to scream, I'd to scream, I'd to scream, I'd to scream, I'd to be to be to be to scream, I'd to be to scream, to scream, to be to scream, to be to scream, to be to scream, to be to be to scream, to be to be to be to scream, to be to be to be would be get too much and I'd just scream until I was exhausted then I pass out. Right. Yeah, is that okay? Well, I'll pass out but be so tired I'd be so try.
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Starting point is 00:11:28 if something crops up, as opposed to, when I first started to speak to someone, I spoke to them every week for, yeah, for a few, couple of months. And then it sort of went to every few weeks. It's sort of just, everyone's different really basically yeah totally the key is though resting and not not working yourself too hard and then everything else is easier you know you can't still be a workholic and do a life where you can afford to rest yes I was in a lucky privilege position to
Starting point is 00:11:58 be able to afford the therapy and rest but they do do stuff on the NHS as well I went to an NHS before about 10 years ago and did some counseling on the NHS all through my GP so anyone else screaming to a pillow let me know. What have you screamed into? Email in what have you screamed into? Email in what have you screamed into the fridge? Have you screamed into the night sky? Little tip never scream into a memory phone because you don't want to be reminded of what you were screaming. Really nice, but a business stuff, isn't it?
Starting point is 00:12:29 Really nice. How's parenting? How's parenting? Been good actually, because I've been at home a lot more last week, because it was a bit crazy with traveling a few weeks. But I'm, I think, this is a problem I have. thapapapapapapapapap, this is a problem, this is a problem I have, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi, thi, thi, this is a problem, this is a problem, this is a problem, thi, this is a problem, thi, th. th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. to to thiiiiiiiii. to to to thi. to get back into normal socializing. Yes. You know, that small, we don't do small talk in our job, really. It's very much like to the point with stand-up and stuff like that. It's not that, you don't have colleagues really that you have to sort of just exist with and talk to them about other things other than work.
Starting point is 00:13:00 So like, for example, I was with the other I was at the school pickup and the kids come out and I was with a couple of other parents and there was like, oh, what did you do today? And I went, oh, we did funky fingers. And you know, I went, what's that, you stick your finger at the bottom and smell it. To the kids? To everyone, to everyone, you need to scream into a pillow, Rob, if that's what you're... Before the school run, just a quick scream into a pillow, just to get it out. I know, and did you put your finger on your bumble and spell it? And then as I said that, I was like, as I said that, why have you said that?
Starting point is 00:13:34 Oh my god. That is awful. Oh my god. Because it was like, oh, that, and the do the end it's like I think they paint use paint or they've got finger puppet it's sure like yeah yeah I think that's probably more likely as things go I'd say I'd say I'd say it's almost worse that your daughter in front of the other kids and parents just kind of rolled with a punch of you saying that yeah that's a normal thing for you to say. Like she acted like, yeah, alright, yeah, that would be my dad's response. Whereas everyone else is going, what the fuck just happened there?
Starting point is 00:14:13 Your daughter's like, no, no, no, it's not that, obviously, I understand why you've said that. Well, I think, I'm gonna'm the weird one. I'm the oddball. Well I am the oddball. Like you know some of the clothes they'll wear like sort of work clothes. I go in like some days I look what sometimes I've got I've been tarmac in because I just wear like like comfy trac suits and stuff and I think through talking to someone. I used to be so concerned about what everyone thought about every single social interaction and I would doom spiral, if I was horrible to someone or did something wrong, everything would fall apart, I'd catastrophes and then everyone would say if no one would ever come and see me do stand up again and then I'd basically be living on the streets and Lou and the girls never spoke to me. That's how my brain would, that's what my brain would eventually get to. Oh, great for the show. It'd be good for the show. So I am I am I think slightly annoying annoyingly annoying. I annoying. I'm annoying. I'm annoying. I'm annoying. I'm annoying. I'm annoying. I'm annoying. I'm annoying. I'm annoying. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the girl. Would. the the the the to to the to to to to to the show. Would to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to their. Would. Would. Would. Would. Would. Would. Would. Would. It's. It's. It's. It's. the the th. the th. the. the. the the the the. the the. the. the. the. the. the. to to the. a little bit where if she wants to vent about something
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Starting point is 00:16:53 Oh, they're the best ones. They're the best people to hang around. Especially if you're Zen, because they don't take. I'll still win win. You just go there on their life journey and then you just sort of wander off not thinking about anything. Well, I'd be interested in your take on this. So I'd say I'm coming towards that. I'm certainly more than I was on the podcast last year. I'm sure we could all agree on that.
Starting point is 00:17:14 Yeah, but what I like about you is Josh. You are very, I think you've you. I've. I've. I've. I've. I've. I've. I've. I've. I've. I've. I've. I've. I've th. I've th. I've th. I've th. I've th. I've th. I've th. I've th. I've th. I've th. I've. I've. I'm th. I've th. I'm. I'm. I'm to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to. I'm interested. I'm comes up, you can still in your locker, which makes you great company, can go immediately red, start sweating and clapping your hands together. Well, let's talk about that subject. Okay, yeah, that's quite key I think. My 40th approach and I can't engage with it, Rob. I simply, and let, before everyone thinks I'm struggling with turning 40. I'm not struggling with turning 40. That's that's. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. the the the. the the. that's. that's, the. the. the. the. the. the. the. to. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. te. to. te. to. tode. to. the the the the to. to. the to. to. to. to.urning 40. I'm not struggling with turning 40. That's the weird, no. Okay, that's exactly the kind of thing someone would say. No, but of course I'd engage, no I'm willing to engage, I'm willing to engage with what I'm struggling with here. Okay, sorry, go on, I'll listen. I don't like the center of attention party situation. Cool. What sorry, just so we just hold which arena are we're th. th. th. the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. that's. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. that's. that's exactly. that's exactly. that's exactly. that's exactly. that's exactly. that's exactly. that's exactly. that's exactly. that's exactly. that's exactly. that's. so I just hold check. Which arena are we doing first? Manchester arena or? Sorry, you don't like being a big party atmosphere center of attention.
Starting point is 00:18:12 If one look at me, come and see me do my big show kind of stuff. No, I'm looking for to Nottingham mainly. So, no, I don't like... I don't like... I tell you what it is also, I'm really trying to not drink at the moment. And every time I drink, I don't enjoy it and I'm like, I'm not enjoying it, I need to stop drinking for a period of now till death. I don't think it's good for you, is it you sort of go hard or not at all? Exactly. And the 40th is like putting yourself intentionally in the position where you have to drink to drink to drink to drink to drink to drink to drink to drink to drink. And to drink to drink. And to drink to drink. And to drink to drink to drink to drink. And to drink to drink to drink to drink to drink to drink to drink. And to drink. And to drink. And to drink. And to drink. And to drink. And you to drink the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. And I. And I. And I. And I. And I. And I. And I th. And I th. And I th. And I th. And I th. And I th. And I th. And I th. And I th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. No, exactly. And the 40th is like putting yourself intentionally in the position where you have to
Starting point is 00:18:48 drink and you've organized it yourself. So there's things like I'm like, oh God the O2 is going to be tough to not have a drink but I'm doing the O2, that's what it is. But to organize your own party and then not drink it, it's a fucking nightmare. Well people do it don't know you don't have to drink. I know but I can do with it being about six months further down the line. Can I tell you something Josh? Yeah. Yeah because basically your birthday is just before we go in the arena tour. So you don't want to get absolutely, you want to get, have a big party after the tour really. You don't want to be doing, you don't want to be... Okay, well, do you know what? I think, yeah. You, I and most people have groups of friends.
Starting point is 00:19:31 Yeah. that on a night out, even though they're your friends. Yeah. If we're all honest, you can only suffer if you've up again on the podcast. People don't even know he is. No, he's actually every bloody week. He's all right. He's a good, he's a sconss over. But I think if you were brutal and you wrote a list, right, say write a list of everyone that you wanted to come to your home. What if they're listening, Rob? And then they see they see that that that that that that that that that that they see that that they see that that that they see that that they see that that they see that that they see that that they see that they see that that they see that that that that they see that that that that that they're that that they see that that that that that's like that's like that's like that that that they're that they're that they're that they're on every that they're on every that they're on every that they're on that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that they're that that they're they're they're they're they're they're on they're on they're they're on they're on they're on. They're on. They're on. they're on. they're on. they're on. their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their they're on. they're on. they're on. the list because they're only from when I'm drunk. Don't publish the list. No, by them not now being invited. So can I just say, if you think you're going to be invited to my 40th and you don't get invited
Starting point is 00:20:13 to my 40th, there wasn't a 40th. It isn't that I've cut you from the list. Here we go. Here. Here. Everyone that you would invite to your 40th that you think this would be the kind of person would invite. Write the list. Tick the ones that you could handle sober. Yeah. For a whole night or maybe a weekend's like tick them, right? Bad news for Rose, but at least we won't have to get a babysit.
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Starting point is 00:21:07 I've basically phased people out anyway, Rob, by having children. That's how I've phased them out. No, but I'm just saying that, what a world we'd live in? Because you'd get that 40 if and you go, oh, is he here? He's actually quite annoying, there's a little cross on them. This will be the last time I do this. And the second part of my life is going to be so much nicer and simple. Is it, is it indeed? Have I turned callus? I feel like I'm the baddie, you know? I think, I think, I think, I know what you're doing for your 40thir and it and it and it and it and it and it and it and it, and it, and it, and it's, and I'm, and I'm, the 40, their their their their their their their thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, I'll thi, I'll thi, I'll thi, I'll thi, I'll thi, I'll thi, I'll thi, I'll thi, I'll th is th is th is th is th is th is th is this is this is th is this is this is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is their, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll their, I'll their their their their their their their their thi, thi, I'll thi, I'll thi, I'll thi. their, I'll their, their thi. thi. thi. their thi. thi, I'll thi, I'll their thi I am fucking off on holiday and not wasting my money on other people. Well exactly, I'm going to end up spending putting money behind a bar that I can't use myself because I'm not drinking. And then you're old, you'll be trying to get your money's worth out of it, that old adage. Yeah. I've paid for the bar, might as well yeah, quadruple vodka please. Exactly, Rob. I don't know what to do. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the th. th. th. th. th. the th. the th. the the the the the th. I's, I'm the the the the the th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. I th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm the. I'm the. I'm thin. I'm toge. I'm toge. I'm toge. I'm toge. I'm today. I'm today. I'm the. I'm the. I'm 't know what to do. I'm panicking about my 40th.
Starting point is 00:22:05 There's other things related to my 40th Rob. What's that? I'm going to start dressing more smartly. You are so you are really struggling with turning 40. Maybe I am. Maybe I don't realize I am. You are. But that's okay. Because I think part of the drunk thing is I don't think it's becoming of someone who's hitting 40.. th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th th thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thirty thi, thi, to thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, I'm, I thi, I thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th the th th th thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, to throoooo-a' to to to theee or throoo-a' theee or thirty thirty, think part of the drunk thing is, I don't think it's becoming of someone who's hitting 40. Do you know what I mean? To be drunk. I think you're too uptight about what people think. You're worried about how your behavior's seen. You're worried about what clothes you wear is seen. What are you going to wear? What are you going to wear? I think you're fairly smart. What are you're th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th th th th th th th th thi thi thi thi thi th thi. I th th th th th th th th thi. I th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thin. I thin. I thin. I thin. I thin. I thin. I thin. I thin. I theee are thi thi thi bringing in blazers. What was that noise? That was me like taking a drink and laughing. Okay, talking through the blazer.
Starting point is 00:22:50 A nice, deconstructed blazer with a shirt, deconstrued shoes. She knows. Jeans gone, trainer's gone. I don't like the blazer and jeans look. I just don't like it this is not forever this is say we're going to the theater I'm going out for dinner I'd wear I dress up for my 40th Rob right okay you are gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna go you gonna
Starting point is 00:23:14 look mental I'm not gonna look mental I'm gonna look what do you mean I'm gonna what you're wearing I'll do what I'll do Rob yeah I'm gonna try I'm gonna to to to to to to to to to to to to the to the the to to the to the the the to to the the the the the to the the the the to to to to to to the to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th th te I I I try. ttteea. teater you the the the the the the the the the the theater you the the the Yeah. I'm going to trial it on the last leg this week. Yes, I want to see the new smart Josh and then you can talk about it going, I'm turning 40 I'm feeling about going smart. What do the viewers think? Is it okay? Yeah. Is it okay to wear converse over 40? You know, that kind of stuff? I'm. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. Yes. Yes. to. Yes. Yes. to. to. Yes. to. to. Yes. to. Yes. to. to. Yes. Yes. Yes. to. Yes. to. Yes. to. to. Yes. Yes. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. the. the. to. the. to. the. to. the. to. the. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. the I think Jonathan Ross looks really cool. He's in his 16, he dresses in whatever he wants. Yes, but he's Jonathan Ross so he buys it because he's such a big personality.
Starting point is 00:23:50 You're a big personality, mate. You're a star of stage and screen. You're an arena-filling comic, mate. I am not in the East Midlands, I'm not, but in other areas. Forget about the N25. You're a double arena-filling-f-f-f-fi-fi-fi-fi-fi-fi-fi-fi-fi-fi-fi-fi-fi-fi-fi-fi-fi-fi-fi-fi-fi-fi-fi-fi-o-in-in-in-in-in-in-in-in-fix-s, thi-son-in-son, thi-son, thi-son, thi, thi-son, thi-son, thi-so-so-so-so-so-so-so-so-so-so-so-so-so-so-so-so-so-so-so-so-i-i-i-s, so-i-i-i-i-s, thi-s, thi-s, thi-s. So-s. So-s. thi-s. So-s. So-s. So-s. So-s. So-s. thi-si-siiiiiiiiiii-siiiiii-siiii-s. So-s. So-s. So- forget about the N-25. You're a double arena-filling comic, mate. Exactly, mate. The Northwest or Wales, I'm an arena-filling comic. Yeah, 10 miles from East Midlands Parkway airport. No. No. But yes. Okay, what shoes you're wearing? I'd say probably, you know, maybe a pair of, just a nice pair of
Starting point is 00:24:25 suede smart shoes. I got what was that noise again? I just see you in the shop get your little shoes with Rose there going yeah that's good Josh yeah that was nice when you go to the theater little fucking weave what is going on? Who am I? I don't know that's the problem? On your birth so basically are you not on my birthday they they're? I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I they're not I they're not. I they're not I they're not I go? I go. I go. I go. I go. I go. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. What was not. What was not. What was not. What was the that's that's that's that's that's that's that's the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th th. I th. I go. I go. I got th. I got th. I got th. I got theat. I go. I go. I go. I go. I go. I go. I go. I go. I go. I'm the the the? I don't know. That's the problem. So basically, you can have on my birthday. I'm not having a transformation like, I don't know. A sacrificial converse burning the day before. No, because obviously I need trainers to go to the shops or do the run. Oh, so you're not gonna wear smart all day. No, I'm not. No, I'm not gonna wear smart all day. No, I'm not. I'm not Bill Nye. Like, no I'm not.
Starting point is 00:25:06 Like, but, like... Like... I do go, I know what you mean. I need to sort out what I'm doing. I want to have different options. So I'm not, so that I'm like, tonight I'm going to go smart because I'm going to go ss to that's nice yeah and then tomorrow Maybe I'm going to see a band I'm not gonna I'm not gonna I'm not gonna wear shoes to see a band rock So you're going to see blur at Wimbly what you got on you got your hush puppy
Starting point is 00:25:32 Swades on no I'm not I'm not you know what I'm gonna wear to blur or probably a t, I don't know what I'm going to wear to blur or probably a t-shirt jacket, jeans and trainers. Yeah but you're changing now you'll be 40 where like dressed like that. Yeah but it's the context isn't it? So you'll be dressed the same as a 20 year old there? No I won't be dressed the same as a 20 year old. Well then that's what they'll wear they'll be a 20 that's w w w w w- that's w- that's w- that's w- that's w- th. that's w- that's w- th. th. that's w- the the the the the the the. the. that's the. the. the. the. that's theate. the. the. the. th. the. the. the. the. the. the. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the th. th. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the theeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee tjjjee tj what they'll wear. There won't be a 20 year old in that fucking stadium ruff. I'll be one of the youngest people there. A lot of 20 year olds love Steve Davis DJ. I can't wait. Well, I'm looking forward to seeing your outfit. On last leg this week, I'm going to dress up smart.
Starting point is 00:26:18 Oh good, I can't wait. But yeah, it doesn't matter. It may be some tip tip tip tip tip t some tips for anyone else that was struggling with turning 40? I'm not struggling with turning 40! I feel like you are and that's okay. I don't know about it. It is a big jump, do you know? You don't need to, I don't think it's a big jump, if anything it's just water for ducks back for me. I think it is really because this is when you're 30, when you're sort of, when you're sort of in the midst of like still like bumping on with your career doing this to am I gonna have kids or Have I got kids or blah blah blah but but now this is it this is your lot Yeah, I'm on the scrap eat. You've got your job
Starting point is 00:26:50 No, no, you're not on the scrap eat, but you've got your job. Yeah, got your kids you got your wife. Yeah, so like what happens now? you grind out to you die. Oh, th. Oh. Oh. Oh. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. this. this. this. this. this. this. this. this. this. this. this is. this is. this is. This is. This is. This is. This is. This is. This is. This is. This is. This is. This is. This is. This is. This is. This is. This is. This is. This is. This is. This is. This is. this is. this is. this is. this is. this. this. this. this. this. this. this. this. this. this. this. this. this. this. this. this. this. this. this. this. this. this is. this. this is. this. this. this. this. this. this. this. this. this. this. this is. this is. this is. this is. this is. What is it your, what is, what is it, what is Josh Widdickam gonna become with the second half of his life? Is it this till death? Are you gonna push the envelope? I try something new. I take another four years now. I try to, so you, yeah. I was thinking, I might do it.
Starting point is 00:27:14 I know, I'm a the a a a agent, I'm a agent, I'm a, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, t.... tha, I'm, I'm, I'm, tha, tha, tha, tha, tha, tha, tha, tha, tha, tha, tha, tha, tha, tha, tha, tha, tha, tha, tha, t.... Is, t. Is, t. Is, t. Is, t. Is, t. Is, t.. Is, t. Is, t. Is, t. Is, t. Is, t. Is, is, is, t. Is, is, is, is, is, tip. Is. Is. Is. Is, is, is. Is. Is. Is. Is, is. Is, is, is. Is, to. Is. Is, to. Are. Are. Are. Are. Well no but why not? Because I'm good at this and I've got far with it Rob. Yeah but just because you got far does it mean you shouldn't change and start again if that's what your heart designed. I can't be bothered it's the same reason I don't get you where you need to give you a to prove yourself I don't want to start again. You don't have to prove yourself I don't have to have to have to prove to prove to prove to prove to prove to prove to prove to prove to prove to prove to prove to prove to prove to prove to prove to prove to prove to prove to prove to prove to prove to prove to prove to prove to prove to prove to prove to prove to prove to prove to prove myself I to prove myself. I'm to prove to prove to prove to prove to prove to prove to prove to prove to prove to prove to prove it. I to prove yourself. I to prove yourself I to prove yourself I to prove yourself I to prove it. I to prove it. I to prove it. I don't to prove it. I'm to prove it. I'm to prove it. I'm to prove it. I'm to prove it. I'm to to to the to the the the the the the the the the the to the the the to to the the the the to the the to the to the the to to the the to the the the the the the the the the, now I want to coast. I tell you where you need to prove yourself, not in them. Get up there and show those guys what you can do. Get a ticket bolt. Anyway, no, all right, I'm looking forward to seeing your new outfit on the last leg. Oh God, pressures on now.
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Starting point is 00:28:18 He's going with allergic. It's the only things I can think I can can can can can can can can can can can can can can can can can can think I can think I can't think I can't think I can't think I can't think I can't think I can't thinks I can't thinks I can't ths I can think of because I've been away a lot and then I've been at home a lot so the dogs been around me on me, you know as as dogs are. So I said to Lou, I went Lou, I've either got hay fever in February or I'm allergic to the dog and she just went you're not allergic to the dog. So basically I've either got a hay fever or I'm gonna have red eyes and a runy nose for the next 12 years till it dies. Right, well he dies. I've got good news for you. Fred died. Oh my god. Twelve as well. He can easily live a lot more than that Rob. No about 14 they died, don't they, dogs? Well you could make 20. Dogs are getting, you know, modern age dogs a little longer. I bet you're I bet you're feeding it good food as well thi. He's got a lovely. I th. Do. Do dog. Do dog. Do dog. He's got th. He's got th. He's got th. He's got th. He's got th. He's got th. He's got th. He's got th. He's got, I's th. He's th. He's th. He's th. He's th. He's good. He's 12. He's th. He's 12. I's 12. I's 12. He's 12. He's 12. He's 12. He's 12. He's 12. He's 12. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He's 12. He's 12. He's 12. He's 12. He's the the the the the the the th. He's the the the th. He's th. He's the th. He's the th. He's the th. He's th. He's th. He's the th. He's th. He's th. He's th. He's th. He's the the th. He's 12. He's 12. He's 12. He he's got a lovely night, lovely life. Yeah, exactly he's gonna live a long life. He gets better food than me this dog.
Starting point is 00:29:10 Look at the Royal Family Rob. Think how long they live compared to other people. Oh yeah, yeah, that will live long. Yeah. Do you know what annoys me? Is when people go, we don't deserve dogs? Pardon? You know, oh, we're so like, oh, they are the jammiest pet in the fucking world. Dogs don't deserve humans that are nice to them, do they? But you still like him, don't you?
Starting point is 00:29:34 I love him, I love the dog. You know, I know you do. And I'm looking forward to a boye-tree years. Only 11 years, 11 years, withshot eyes and runny nose for me. No, so I one summer had hay fever. Yeah. And it was only for one summer, sometimes like... Certain pollen. Certain pollen happens or something.
Starting point is 00:29:55 So for me, it's tree pollen. I get it early doors. It's the pollen off the trees, which is the first pollen and then it moves to flower and grass and all that, but I'm all all all all all all all all all all all all the the the the the first pollen and then it moves to flower and grass and all that but I'm all right with grass it's just the tree. Right. The tree stuff. This episode is brought to you by Nespraso. Elevate your morning coffee ritual from the first sip of coffee in the morning to the on-the-go cup. Make every morning unforgettable with Nespresso. to a world of possibilities with or without milk. Visit Nispresso.c.c.c.a. to learn to hear a good bit of good news about why it might not be the dog. Okay, go on. So when we got our cats, we got our cats, I was in Australia filming the last leg down under.
Starting point is 00:30:44 Rose bought the cats. I got back. It'd been quite a stressful few weeks. Yeah. Because there was a lot. We traveled the full length of Australia while trying to make a three hours of television. And it was quite intense. And it was quite intense. And it was a long way. A lot of traveling. Yeah. A lot of the drive a van the whole way. So it was quite intense. He drove the van? Well, we took it in turns. Also on top of that, the vegetarian food was fucking non-existent in the north of Australia. Yeah, yeah, they love a bit of meat. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:13 So, here we go. I got home, and the cats were there, and suddenly, I just allergic to the cats. And I couldn't really breathe very well for about a week. And Rose was like, I think, I don't know if you are allergic to cats. I'm like, I'm allergic to cats. I'm definitely allergic to cats. And then I went to the doctor. And it was the first signs that I was suffering from bad anxiety. So, really? The good news is is it might not be the dog Rob. You might just be going through a mental breakdown. No, no, because my chest isn't tight. I've just got bloodshot eyes. Right.
Starting point is 00:31:53 Well, you might just be, so it's like, crying. Can't your screen too much? No, so it's funny. So what we had, we went in, they do a little thing where they like mid-year, you talk, you go it's sort of like a parent's evening but not the parents yeah we've got parents yeah like like a kind of mini budget yeah it's a mini budget where basically what they say is they go one of the teachers I think might be the I don't know the head of the primary school like who knows a lot all the kids know and like you don't have to do it but if you want it so we thought I will do it was so we went in and was in then she was saying really nice things about my eldest daughter it was only about my oldest daughter she wasn't saying like bad things about the other daughter yeah it was to the she refused to offer any comments on the youngest yeah yes yes you'll you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you the you the the th you th you th you th you th you th you th you'll th you'll th you'll th you'll th th th the th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they'll they they they they they the the to the to the the the the thou the the the they were they were they they were they were they they'll they, but my hay fever was kicking right off and I was there and it was like it looked like I was crying and she
Starting point is 00:32:48 went, don't get upset it's all good and I'm not upset. It's even a dog or tree pollen because of the climate crisis the pollen is falling earlier and hazel and ash trees dominate this area okay. Okay? I don't look like I was crying. Are you worried because you're moving to to the the the th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th to th I to th like I th like I to th like I th like I th like I th like I was crying th like I was crying th like I was crying th like I was crying th like I was crying th like I was crying th like I was crying that I was crying like I was crying like I was that I was that I was that I was that I was that I was that I was like I was like I was like I was like I was like I was like I was th like I was th like I was th like I th like I th like I th like I th like I th like th th th th like th like th th like th th like th th like th like th like th like th like th like thing thing thing tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho thoo thoo thooo thoooing the like thoooing the like tho the like tho thes dominate this area. Okay? I'm wrong. Are you worried because you're moving to the country as well? No, not as, no, to be fair, not really because where we are now there's loads of, we sort of, we live right near a big sort of country park already. Is something about the countryside. When I moved to the city from the countryside at the age of 18, my asthma disappeared. Really? Yeah, you wouldn't think think think think think think th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. th. th. th. th. th. thiii thi thi thi thi thi thi? that that that tho tho tho tho tho that that that that tho tho tho tho to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to th. th. th. th. th. th. that the, the, the the, the the the the the the the the the toooooooooooooooo. the. to to to to to to to to to, my asthma disappeared. Really? Yeah, you wouldn't think that would you? I thought it would be the other way. Yeah, so would I.
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Starting point is 00:35:07 So I went in there and it's unbelievable, mate. There's a three-story soft play, there's a three-story soft play. You walk in and then one side is all where the kids go, and the other side is like, kids can go as well, but it's more for adults. So on the kids side, there's, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, tho, tho, there, tho, th, th, their, their, their, th, th, tho, their, their, tho, tho, tho, thi, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, th. So, th. So, th. So, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, the, the, the. And, the. And, tha. And, tha. So, tha. So, tha. So, throooooooooooo. So, the. So, the. And-story softplay. And then you walk straight in from there to a family change with your own cabinet, like your own, like the cubicles and then get into the swimming pool. Oh my god, you're basically in a country club, Rob. You're a country squire. As soon as you move out of London, everything's more spacious. Yeah, of course it is. I grew up in Devon. Yeah, but I didn't know this was a thing. I'm. I the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. I th. I th. I th. I th. th. th. th. Rob. Rob. Rob. Rob. Rob. Rob. Rob. Rob. Rob. Rob. Rob. Rob. th. th. th. th. Rob. Rob. Rob. Rob. Rob. th. th. th. th. the the the the the the the the the their. their. the c. the c. the c. the c. the c. the c. Rob. Rob. Rob. Rob. Rob. Rob. Rob. Rob. Rob. Rob. Rob. Rob. Rob. Rob. Rob. Rob. Rob. Rob. Rob. Rob. Rob. Rob. Rob. Rob. Rob. Rob. Rob. Rob. Rob. Rob. Rob. Rob. Rob. Rob. Rob. Rob. Rob. I. Rob. I. Rob. It's. Rob. It's. Rob. Rob. It's. Rob. It's. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the the the the the the th a thing. There's like parking, there's like space. I didn't know the word parking until I was 18 because it wasn't an issue. You just stopped the car?
Starting point is 00:35:52 We just stopped the car and got out. Genuinely, I'm sure I've told you this before. Yeah, we didn't lock our house. We didn't lock it. Oh my God. We just go on holiday for two weeks. No. Yeah. And we wouldn't lock the door. And this would be like 90s, yeah in the early 90s? In the mid-90s, yeah. Up to the eight 90s. My parents now locked the house if anyone knows what the Widdicums. But what was good about it is, Josh. The family change, because at the last gym, there wasn't one, my children don't have to see hairy cocks when they go swimming anymore.
Starting point is 00:36:33 Oh yeah, because you've got a perfectly hairless one. No, because I'll keep mine under lock and key. They don't have to walk them through the fucking cock zoo. Yeah, that's awful awful awful awful awful awful awful awful awful awful awful awful awful awful awful awfulthrough the fucking cock zoo. Yeah, awful. I didn't realize how good that was. Anyway, so it's really nice. You're on your way to being a country squad. You're going to be like Alex James from Blur before we know it.
Starting point is 00:36:52 Right, so Josh, this is what I did, right? This is like the closest I've ever had to a routine. Yeah. party so I had like a couple of hours spare so I went to the gym parked up there's a little area because there's space where they clean your car like you pay obviously it's extra but like you can get your car cleaned right and my car was really dirty so went there he went oh how long you gonna be was like a couple of hours I went in there I had a training session which I talked about in a minute then there there there the train in a spa the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the their their the the the their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their I their their I their I I I I I I I I I'll their their their their their their their their their their their their training training training training training training training training training training training sp. training try I had some lunch and I had the Premier League on in the bar area. Bloody hour. And you can get a pint of Moretti if you wanted.
Starting point is 00:37:32 You've got the Premier League and getting a pint of beer is not like, but this does sound like you're living in a different world to me. Yeah, but all in one place and then I finished. The car was thinneneying. the the thin was clean and I drove to Radio 2 and did my radio show and I didn't I felt like the Jetsons I was living in the future I couldn't believe it so I'm so the last I'm gonna be playing doubles tennis aren't you look you're gonna be playing doubles tennis are you lo? I think I'm gonna be playing doubles tennis are you're gonna be playing doubles tennis ten's I the last things I they're gonna the the the the the the the the the the last the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the last the last the last the last the last I'm gonna gonna gonna gonna gonna the last I'm gonna gonna gonna are gonna gonna gonna gonna the last I'm gonna the last I'm gonna gonna gonna gonna gonna gonna gonna gonna gonna gonna gonna gonna gonna gonna gonna gonna gonna gonna gonna gonna gonna gonna gonna gonna gonna gonna gonna gonna gonna gonna gonna gonna gonna gonna gonna gonna gonna gonna gonna gonna gonna gonna gonna gonna gonna gonna gonna gonna gonna gonna gonna gonna gonna gonna gonna gonna gonna gonna gonna gonna gonna gonna gonna gonna gonna gonna gonna gonna gonna gonna gonna gonna gonna gonna gonna gonna gonna gonna gonna gonna gonna gonna gonna gonna gonna gonna gonna gonna gonna gonna gonna gonna gonna gonna gonna gonna gonna gonna gonna gonna gonna gonna gonna gonna gonna gonna gonna gonna gonna gonna gonna gonna gonna gonna gonna gonna gonna gonna gonna gonna be the the the the the the the the the the the the the the last the the the the the the the the the the the the the last the last the last the last the last the last the last the last the last the you Lou are going to be playing tennis against some other fucking country twins. Because the gym is actually a small part of it, they've got badminton, there's tennis as a coral. I'll be honest with you, Rob, yeah. I'll be honest with you.
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Starting point is 00:39:15 Yeah. Like, I've had this discussion with Rose. What do you prefer, Rob? So I don't know really, okay? So I wasn't really sure, but I definitely, what, the way I broke it down was, I was like, I don't want anyone that was a high-level athlete. Because in my experience, when I've done Robin Rommish and you meet like Andy Murray
Starting point is 00:39:39 and Andy Murray's tennis coach or the England football team, when they they and train you, they're so used to training high-level athletes. It's why so many, so feud top football managers are great players. It's a classic. Because they can't understand why people are shit. And they, and your body's not up, they'll go like, right, so tense that muscle there, I'm like, that muscle was never thi. That muscle was never like, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. So, thi, thi, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so they so many so many, so many, so many so many, so many, so many, so many, so many, so many, so many, so many, so many, so many, so many, so many, so many, so many, so many, so m so m so m so m so m so m so m so mso, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, thi. So, thi. So, thi. So, thi. So, thi. So, thi. So, thi. So, thi. So, thi. So, thi. So, so, thi. So, thi. So, thi. So, thi. So, th know what I need to do within my body to make that go hard. Do you know I mean? Yeah anyway so because one was like I'm an I was a national level sprinter. I was like not for me. We're different species man. So I went for the there was a a guy that was like a bit more like sort of like well rounded played a bit of football but a that. the that. I played a that. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi th. thi. thi. I thi. I thi. I was a thi. I was a thi. I was a thi. I was a thi. I was a th. I was a th. I was a thi. I was a th. I was a th. I was a th. I was a th. I was a th. I was a th. I was a th. I was a th. I was a th. I was a th. I was a th. I was a th. I was a th. I was a th. I was a th. I was a th. I was a th. I was a thin. I was a thin. I was a thin. I was a th. I was a th. I was a th. I was a th. I was a th. I was a thin. I was a th. I was a th. I was a that. I was a that. I was a that. I was a that. I was a th. I was a th. I was a th. me as opposed to someone that was like nearly in the Olympics. Right. You know what I mean? But yeah, so that and I did that.
Starting point is 00:40:27 That went well and then yeah, I had a healthy smoothie and I walked out the gym Josh with my bag and it was the first time I've not been rushed. Didn't have a Marie. And I walked out the gym with my gym bag, a green smoothie and got in my clean car and drove to work and I felt like I was Molly May. Unbelievable. Who are you anymore? Who am I now? You've had your 40s transformation at 36?
Starting point is 00:40:53 Yeah, my body's still a mess but I'm gonna, that's, but I've got three years now. So I'm gonna, but at 40 I might do a heat magazine. Okay, that's the deal. Does it still exist exist exist exist exist exist exist exist exist exist exist exist exist exist exist exist exist exist exist exist exist exist exist exist exist exist exist exist exist exist exist exist exist exist exist exist exist exist exist exist exist exist exist exist exist exist exist exist exist exist exist exist exist they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they th, th. I they they th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I'm, th. I'm, th. I'm, th. I'm, th. I'm, th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I, th. I, th. I, th. I, th. I, th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I'm, th. I'm, thi. I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm tho. I'm tho. I'm tho. I'm tho. I'm tho. I'm tho. I'm tho. I'm tho. I'm th. I'm th. I, that's the deal. Yeah, that's the deal. Does it still exist? Heat magazine? Oh well, I think they might bring it back for this edition. Torso of the century. Yeah, so that was good. So that was fun. But yeah, so we're on the road. I'm glad we're both just thinking about turning 40. You're three years out and it's playing with your mind. I'm only, I'm just, the th. I'm just, th. the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. the th. the the the the the th. they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they might. they. I might. th. th. th. I might. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's. It's. It's. It's not. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th's playing with your mind and I'm I'm only six mind I just sort of see you've used the words Gary Barlow and 40 82 times on this podcast yeah no I'm I'm not having an extessential crisis about kind of a about turning 40 but I do feel like if you're not in shape before 40 it becomes
Starting point is 00:41:40 much harder to get into shape after full that's why I'm on I'm on I'm on the run in now mate yeah I feel like if you th th you th you you you you th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th you can th you th you can thi thi th th you th you th you th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th you've th you've th you've th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th the the the the thou to to to to theeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee the the the the the the the to get into shape after four. That's why I'm on I'm on the run in now mate. Yeah I feel like if you're going if you're entering 40 a bit in shape you can sort of claw it back as you go but if you're 47 and you're trying to, you're try and you're trying it's to try and you're trying to get your kids into sport early. I'm not saying you're the thirty to tho to to to to thoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo the the to to the thoooo. to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi the the try. try try. try try. try try try try try try to to try to to to to to to th it's good to get your kids into sport early. Yeah, yeah. Get your kids into sport early. So that you can sit at the side and just watch them. No, but because I've got mates, I've got mates who like do boxing and football and because they played properly like into the 20s and 25 and went to the gym and looks after themselves. Now they basically sort of, if they let's let's let go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go, if th know what? Do you know what? Yeah. We really have covered
Starting point is 00:42:25 a lot of bases today. Yeah. Your worries about showing into pillow, my worries about being 40. You worries about your body image. We've covered a lot. I've still got other bits from my, I've not really talked about the kids. And my daughter hasn't even disturbed me yet. No, she's all right. Do you want to check on her? Do you think I should? No, I don't think Ray or the Beast actually. She's probably loving it, laying there in the mom and dad's bed, pepper pig on the gate. If she wants something she'll tell you. Well, she might have fallen asleep, but that's fine. She's in the garden alone.
Starting point is 00:42:54 Let's bring this home with some children chat then. said to me, Daddy, you've got teeth like a donkey. At last, she's noticed. Yes. And did you say, and do you know what, mate, there's a 50% chance you will have when you're growing up? Exactly. When did you realize you had big teeth? When kids used to call me tomeath at school. Right.
Starting point is 00:43:18 So do you think your daughters have escaped it? Yeah, so my eldest, the eldest, my eldest, my eldest, my eldest, my eldest, my eldest, my eldest, tha, tha, tha, tha, tha, tha, tha, tha, thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thomomeate. thi. thateateateateateateateateate, to their, their, their, to their, their, their, their, their, their. their. their. their, their. their th. th. th. th. th. th. th. that, that, that, that, that, that, thi. thatte, te. te. tea. tea. tea. tea. tea. tea. tea. tea. tea. tea. tea. tea. tea. has got a front two teeth through and they're normal size because I had these teeth at six. Blahmie. That was something else. But I don't know about the youngest because she's still got her baby teeth so she may be the same. But yeah it was weird though because obviously you know she's innocently going you know she's innocent you know she's the. You know the they's the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. the the the the the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the the th. th. th. th. the the th. the the the th. th. th. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the they's. the they's. the. the the. the. I's. the the. I's. I's. the. the. the. I's. the. I's. the. the. the. the. the the the donkey teeth from show. Yeah, just in the... Because he's like a... Yeah, she's not going, look at this fucking, let's let's absolutely do him over it. Yeah, I'm gonna hammer him, you know. It was quite funny, quite sweet actually.
Starting point is 00:43:53 I was like, yeah, I do a bit. Yeah, and then I was reading my five-year-old's book, right? Yeah. Which I think is absolutely unacceptable. One of the words in it, right? It was a book about magician, Conjurer. That's too hard for a five-year-old. I watched, she's got to read it herself. Oh, that's that's tough, isn't it? That's toub's tou. that's what they say. It's what they say, we're doing ditties at the moment. They're like, what the fucks are ditty? It's like little poems on pay, you
Starting point is 00:44:29 know, when you're learning to read. Do you know what's weird? I didn't realize how many different, like schools, I thought it was all the same, but every school is different all over the country. Like, in the northhe the north the north the north the north the north the North the North the North the North the North the North the North the North the North the North the North the North the North the North they's they's they's they's their their th. It's th. It's th. It's like, it's like, it's, it's, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's weird. It's like what's going on here? Like half-term is good because it kind of means it kind of staggers it I suppose. I wish London just staggered all of them so that the traff... but there's such a boring thing to say. You've got to move out book fair now and I talked to you about recorder club on Friday. We've got secondhand book thing on Friday. I didn't realize this. We've got to take in secondhand books for charity. Yeah, we've got to do that as well because it's world book day around this time. I don't know when this goes out about this week or next week or last, was World Book Day. So you're taking old books, we're doing that. We're taking in some old books to give to the school
Starting point is 00:45:27 and then I don't know if they use them or they sell them or they donate to others. I don't know what they do with them, but the school collects old books. Yeah, and then the girl from the Wimpy Kid books. Yeah. I don't know what I'm saying. My daughter's shouting for me, Rob.
Starting point is 00:45:51 Oh, my phone started ringing. This is an absolute disaster. Okay, one sec. I can take this. I'll find out with the Wimpy Kid. Anyone that reads Wimpy Kids with their kids, quite boring isn't it? The Wimpy Kid really does detail every part of his diary to the point where I'm like, come on, make it a move on, will you? I've had this with Adrian Molle, now I'm doing it in stick form. So my daughter's going as Holly Hills, we've got her a strithat sat on a nap. Sorry. Oh, I was just talking, it's really hard about someone else's.
Starting point is 00:46:28 Yeah, I bet. I just didn't say the cat sat on the mat. No, no, the nat. The na'at. So my daughter, eldest is going as Holly Hills from the wimpy kid books, which is a stripy black and white skirt, white tights, and a sort of sadd, I don't know what we're doing about the earrings. I think she's only picked her because she wants earrings, my daughter. Right, yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:49 And then my youngest is going as a cat that's sat on the nat. So we've got a fly teddy and he's stapling it or sewing it to a cat ones with a little fly swatter. Nice. What's your daughter going now? So she she she she these books of ballet bunnies about bunnies that do ballet. Okay. So it's a leotard and bunny outfit. That's good. Because I think you can normally make it with what you've got in the house.
Starting point is 00:47:17 I've just realized that makes her sound like a playboy bunny, which is hugely inappropriate, but it's like a ballet lea that's a little.... th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, the the thi, thi, the the thi, thi, thi, the th, the the the the they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they. So, the th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. So, thi. So, leotard. So she's wearing a leotard of a little bunny on a bunny ears. Starting to worry now, yeah, starting to worry that that sounds. She's gonna look like a good one. That's not great is it. It's not great is it? What about your boy does he doesn't do it? He's too young? Yeah, he's too young he's notged it. He's dodged it. So yeah my daughter's going in as a playboy bunny, so that's good. Perfect. And then my one's going to get her ears pierced for the day.
Starting point is 00:47:49 Yeah, great parents. To celebrate books and literary charm. This is something, the book fair, I don't know if your school's doing this, where this is a app, I think it's a bit of a con. This is what happens first. This is what I'm. This is. This is what happens. This is what I. This is what I. This is what I. This is what I. This is what I. This is what I. This is what I. This is what I. This is what I'm. This is, the book. This is, the book. This is, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm. I'm. I. I'm. I. I. I. I, I, I. C. C. I, I. I. I, I. I, I. I. C. C. I, I. I. I. I. I. I. I, I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I'm, the, the, the, the, the, th. C. C. C. C. C. C. Yeah, th. Yeah, great, great, great, th. Yeah, great, great, th. C. C. Yeah, great, th. C. C. C. Yeah, th. C. C. C. C. This is what happens. This is what I'm here for. So I've got in, kids come out of school. Book fair, book fair, there's a book fair. We've got a voucher, we've got a voucher. I was like, what's going on here? I've got a one pound off voucher of this book fair. And then the book fair is always, exit through the gift shop. Yeah. Of course they've run straight in. But we've got a voucher, we've got money off. Yeah, you've got a quid off a 10 quid book. I'm 9 quid down here.
Starting point is 00:48:34 And there's a little book fair, there's always some sort of like, you know, like wacky fella in there, they're their their their their their th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, they're th, thin' they're they're thin' they're thin' thin' they're they're they're they're they're they're they're thin' they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they' they' they' they' they' they' they' they' they' they' they' they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're thin, they're thin, thin, thin, tho, tho, tho, thooomo' thooo'n't thoo'eeeee'e. thooo'e. thooo'e. the. they're they're they and the school will definitely get in a cut. Yeah of course. It's the same as when you sell merchandise on tour you have to give 20% to the venue. Yeah, exactly. There's no way that school's not getting 20% and then they cut out of that city. And then you end up spending 20 quid off. Exactly. Exactly. Oh, mate. Absolutely dumb. I know, but I don't want buying kids a book, but on my terms, not in a panic after school, peer pressure environment of all the other kids getting books. And you can't
Starting point is 00:49:08 be the parent that goes, you're not allowed a book. No, of course you can't be the parent. You've got a perfectly good iPad at home. I remember buying, I remember buying books from the book for a primary school and I've just realized that it was the same deal, I that...... I th, I th, I th, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, th, th, th, th, th, th. But, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th. But, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, exactly, exactly, exactly, exactly, exactly, exactly, exactly, exactly, exactly, exactly, exactly, exactly, exactly, exactly, exactly, exactly, exactly, exactly, exactly, exactly, th. And, exactly, the their, their, exactly, their, th, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi. But, thi. thi's, thi's, thi's thi. thi's, thi's thi's thi, thi,'ve just realized that it was the same deal even in the 90s they were doing it. The good cons a good con Josh. Exactly. I've got a good story about Recorder Club that I'll tell on Friday. Oh I look forward to Recorder Club. Lovely. So I'm gonna go and check on my daughter because she just told me she's bored.
Starting point is 00:49:40 There's nothing I can do about that. She's that that that that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that. that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that. that's the the the the the the the the the the the th. thi. the thi. the the the the the. the the the the. thi. the. the thi. that's that's that's that's that's that's that's thi. there's nothing I can do about that. She's the one. Oh that's a bit unfair. That's a bit unfair. She's not. She's bored. All right then well yeah go and check on that. What do you when a child's bored and they're ill? I've got to get one to my day. Yeah. Just say that to her. Shut up and get on. You're the one that's the one that's not a school. Do. Do. You. You do. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You want. You. You want. You. You want. You want. You want. You want. You want. You want. You want. You want. You want. You want. You want. You want. You want. You want. You want. You want. You want. You want. You want. You want. You're the the the one. You want. You want. You want. You want. You're. You're. You're. You want. You want. You want. You want. You want. You want. You want. You want. You want. You want. You. You want. You. You want. You want. You. You want. You want. You want. You want. You want. You want. You. You want. You. You want. You. You. You. You. You. You want. You want. You want. You want. You want. You want. You want. You want. You want. You want. You want the the the the the the the the the the the the the that. You're the that. You're the the that. that. that. You're that. You're that. Right, have you got one? I've got one here. I sell books in the hall of a school in... Here we go. Here's an outline of Cowsy Vision homeless enterprise. Our son slash brother Cow always an advocate for social change and social fairness found the homeless crisis broke his heart.
Starting point is 00:50:21 He passionately believed the homeless crisis is about more than just providing four walls. It's important to encourage an individual sense of value, worthiness, security and friendship. Cow never walked past someone sleeping rough on the street who would always sit down next to him, start a conversation ensuring that person felt heard and seen. In his words, I want to help them feel part of this world. And unfortunately, this world lost Cowl struggled with the world's injustice thirted thiiiiiiiiiiiii. And to to to to to to thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. their their their their sense sense sense sense sense sense sense sense sense sense sense sense sense sense sense sense sense sense sense sense sense sense sense sense sense sense sense sense sense sense sense sense sense sense sense sense, to to to to to to to to their sense sense sense, to their sense sense, to th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. to thi. thi. thi. thi. I thi. thi. thi. thi. theeuuui. theui. thi. the thi. the thi. Cow on the 7th of January 2021, age 23. Cow struggled with the world's injustices and battled with his own mental health. He fought to bring his vision to life, but on that day depression, anxiety and his mental state took him to his darkest place. So his friends and family, inspired by his passion and heartfelt kindness have set up this business,
Starting point is 00:51:01 the Cowsey Tribe where you can buy clothes and t-shirts and stuff like that that are all got designs on from Cow's sketchbooks. So Cowl had a sketchbook and 50% of all profits will go to the homeless charities that they work with. They do these Cowsy care kits full of hygiene products, the Odorant, toothpaste, toothbrushes, socks, underwear, and stuff like that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that underwear, lip salve and stuff like that that they can give out to people that are currently homeless. So let me give you the website if you want to buy some of this merch you can. So the Instagram is Cowsy, C-A-L-Z-Y, V-I-S-I-O-N and that's where you can buy these really cool t-sk-and, tha-s, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and the-s, and, and the-s, and the-s, and the-s, and the-s, and the-s, and the-s, so-s, so-s, so-s, so-s, so-s, so-s, so-s, so-s, so-s, so-s, so-s, so-s, so-s, so-s, so-S, so-S-S, so-S, so-S, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, and, and, I...... So, and, the-I. So, and, and, I. So, and, I. So-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-i-a-a-i-i-i-s. So-i-i-s. So, these really cool t-shirts all designs by a cow who's unfortunately not with us anymore but proceeds will go to homeless charities that's a good one isn't it Josh that is a good one I wouldn't want to
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Starting point is 00:52:27 Love the podcast, can't wait for Tuesday and Friday for new episodes. Thank you, Joe Cottingham. I think you need to do some fucking E-learning. What was that? You rescued it. Exactly. Great fun today, Josh. Loved it. Don't panic about being four. You'll be alright. Just get them a lovely pair of swayed hush puppies in and you'll feel like a moot man. I didn't use the word hush puppies.
Starting point is 00:52:51 Right. See you on Friday to discuss a recorder club. Bye. Bye. We're stand-up comedians who love music. And we'd like to tell you about our new podcast, GigPigs. Alex and I have been watching live music together for years, so we've decided to compromise this hobby and potentially our friendship by turning it into a project. Every episode we'll be going to a gig and then discussing it afterwards with the
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