Parenting Hell with Rob Beckett and Josh Widdicombe - S6 EP18: Tom Daley

Episode Date: March 10, 2023

 Joining us this episode to discuss the highs and lows of parenting (and life) is the brilliant Olympic gold medal winning diver, knitter, and now podcaster - Tom Daley. Tom's new podcast 'Made with Love' is available now. Thanks, Rob + Josh. We're going on tour!! Fancy seeing the podcast live in some of the best venues in the UK? Of course you do, you're not made of stone! Tickets available now on the dates and at the venues below. We can't wait to see you there... ON SALE NOW  14th April 2023 - Manchester AO Arena 19th April 2023 - Nottingham 20th April 2023 - Cardiff  21st April 2023 - London (The O2) 23rd April 2023 - London (Wembley) 28th April 2023 - Birmingham Utilita Arena  If you want to get in touch with the show here's how: EMAIL: [e-mail] TWITTER: @parenting_hell INSTAGRAM: @parentinghell A 'Keep It Light Media' Production  Sales, advertising, and general enquiries: [e-mail] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Keep being your sexy and relatable. selves and thanks for all the laughs, you make this utter carnage of parenting malarkey seem normal. Big love. Rach and Rich from Norwich, four kisses. Four kisses. That's okay, that's nice. A lot of babies at the moment. My mates just had a baby. I went to drop off a water bottle from, like that he'd left at my house and I was like, like, they only live like, they only lived like, they're in a operation. Because like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, th. that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, harder, doesn't it, after it? Yeah, you're going to basically have an operation. Yeah, it is an operation, isn't it? It's a major surgery. It's major surgery? It's major surgery? It's major surgery.

And I went around there and I went around there and that, like And it's like that first few days, you're just in an absolute hazy fog of just like, oh my God. But yeah, the baby's all happy and healthy and they're all happy and healthy. But I just remember just saw my mate stood there of a baby. It's always so funny to your mate of a baby, it's always so funny. It's the only thing I've ever seen the the the thin you you thin thin thin thin thin thin thin thin they thin thin bit like, you know, drunk mate of a kebab on the way and from a night out at the start.

It's sort of like, that's the only thing I've ever seen him hold that delicately, you know what I mean? Yeah, or a crater, it's other that, and a crate of beer and now a baby. How old is it? How old is it? Yeah, so I was 29 when I had my first, which is quite fairly young, not for my family, all my cousins, I don't know about 17, 18, but yeah, so he's a bit older, he's a bit, he's 37, 36, 36, kind of thing, which is not too old. But he's, his wife's a little bit younger.

And then my younger brother's having a baby as well, so, yeah, I've got mates that are just starting to have them and then other people that have got them a bit older so. But yeah, I never really had many nearby, like you live quite close to your mate, proper mates and got kids the friends we've got through kids, the difference to the ones I had growing up, if you know what mean? Yeah. It's sort of the ages didn't really match up whenever one. Because we've got friends that have got friends the friends the friends the ages didn't really match up whenever one had one because you've got friends that have got a kid the same age as our eldest but then a much younger one or a much older one and he just doesn't fit as well for play dates because there's always a kid in the corner gun. It's always go with your kids friends and you have to be friends the other way around. That's what I said. Like I said, like I you about, Recorder Club. So, you know my eldest doesn't do any clubs? Yeah, she hates clubs. Hate clubs and we were not fair enough, she doesn't want to do them, whatever.

Anyway, we went in the, the, the, the, the, the, the, there's a new teacher at the school who's sort of doing these little catch up. There's not, the, the, the, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, into to talk about your kid and it's quite relaxed you don't have to go it's quite relaxed it's just if you want it anyway we went in and she was saying yeah she's lovely and it's all she's all doing well and you know there's no problems anything like that and and stuff I said she's a bit more she's sort of like she's a slow grow with confidence she's sort of a semi quiet the confidence she's sort of semi quiet but then then then then then then then then then then then then then then then then then then then then then then then then then then then then then then then then then then then then then then then then then then then then then then the then the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the they's they's they's they's they's the they's the they's the the they's the the the the the the the I was very quiet and timid and then I'd grow on confidence. Exactly. And then she, yeah, it's a bit strange she's not doing any clubs at all. We said,

look, we don't mind doing clubs. We're happy to pay for like the ones you have to pay for. We're not being tired or she just doesn't really want to do any. So maybe it's just a bit of a sort of like a confidence thing or something like that and then the teacher went well I'm doing recorder club so what I'm going to do is I'll go and say to her there's a space in my recorder club and I'd love it if you join the club yeah right and sort of invite her rather than her making decision or being forced into it by the parents so they said okay it sounds great anyway I didn't think thi th th th th th th th th the the the the the the the the th the the th the the th the the the the th I the thin the the the the the the the the the the the the the they they their the the their their their their their their their their their the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the to to to to to to to to to to to to to their their their their they they they they they they they they they. I they. I theymea theyn. I theynoy going to a recorder club. The miss, come up to me and said, there's a space and she's asked me to go in it and I want to do recorder club. Look at that.

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and you're going to pick them up. And anyway, so we're getting before. The day we drop her off the next morning, she's white, she basically goes white as a ghost when she's worried about something. Like, you can actually see the color drained out of her face. She was like, oh, I don't want to go. I don't want to go. I don't want to go. I don't want to go. Oh gosh. Oh, really, sort of panick. I'm. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. the. the. to. to. the. the. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to go. to go. the the. to go. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. She. She. She. She. She. She. She. She. She. She. She's. She's. She's actually. She's actually. She's actually. She's actually. She's actually. She was actually. She was actually. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to see. I th. She then Lou was like well let's just see what it's like and she was like properly like nearly like getting

upset about it and is just at the start of the day and she's dropping her off and she's like getting out of the car and she's got to do it the end of the day and she was like I'm really nervous and then Lou sort of regret saying that because she actually wants her to go. So anyway she went in and then Lou was like oh God like I don't know what to do and then as we emailed the teacher and Lou was going to say don't she doesn't have to do it but I was like and we both agreed that me and Lou that I think thrown she's worried she wants to go because she come out buzzing to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the fear the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the they was was was they was they was was they was they was they was they was they was they was like, well, don't go then, don't have to do it. I can control this. I can make you happy now. Yeah. You're unhappy now? I can make you happy now, right? And short-term, it's a bit short-sighted. Because the thing is, then what we did, do it. So the email back said, look, if she

really gets upset, we'll just put her in late room with a sister, she doesn't have to do it. However, we'll try and sort of help her get over the nerves and go into it. And then, anyway, she went in and she went in and she's to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to their. And, to, their, their, their, the their, the the the the the the the the the their, the their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, their. And, look, look, their. And, their. And, their. And, their. And, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, if she's, if she's, if she's, if she's, if she's, if she's, if she's, look, if she's, look, failure, she was excited, she'll feel like, oh, and that's how I used to feel as a kid, I'd be like, nerves and my mom would sometimes go, yeah, don't have to do it then, but then I'll be at home bit a bit of a loser and like, if anyone goes like, oh did you do recorder club? I didn't do it, lose a rob I'd say you know it does yeah so we was like we was really worried right and then that we didn't hear anything from the teachers or whatever and I was waiting at four o'clock and she came out of the recorder club with a recorder and a book the happiest she was amazing flying and it was recalder club to a point but also I think it was just her getting over that totally and that sense of achievement of achievement of doing something you was you you you you you you you you you you you you you to to to to th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to thi thi thi thi thi thi thi the th. the the th. th. the th. the th. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the to the the to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to thi thi thi just her getting over that worry. And that sense of achievement of doing something you was nervous about,

but you really wanted to do. And she was buzzing, and mate, I listened to record I'd say for four hours non-stop when she got him. And I couldn't, I couldn't go, well that's enough of that, pack it in. She did one perfectly, I was making me sing. And it was really cute. And it's been great fun. And she she she and she she she she she she she she she she she she she she she she she she she she she she she she she she was and it. And it. And it. And it. And it was like, I I I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I that's, cute and it's been great fun and she was like I want my own recorder I want a like a turquoise one the girls some girl in there's got a turquoise one and I was like well if you go often and you do the whole term we'll get you a new one kind of thing yeah she was absolutely flying and I was so chuff for her oh my god that's great that's a heartwarming story it then she actually said the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th th th th the th th th th th th th th th th th th. th. th. th. th. She was th. th. She was tho. th. She was the was the. She was tho. th. th. th. the. the. the. was the. was the. was the. was the. was the. was the. was the. was th. was th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th the is the is the is the the the the the the the the the an the an the the the the the the an the the. I's a heartwarming story. And then she actually said, the next morning, 6 a.m., Dad, can I do it again?

6 a.m. she was doing it the next day, Recorder Club. And then she went to Lou, she went, and she went, and she went, I to going, don't send her, we'll get it for. And it would have been the wrong decision long term, but short term, it felt like the right thing to do.

And I think it's that little bit of the balance, getting the balance right of being firm but fair and cruel to be kind to a point. Because if I didn't force myself to go and do those stand-up gigs, early on, and I was petrified, I'd be physically sick, I'd be, but the world might be, but my life wouldn't be, fuck the world. I would pace and pace and go white and pale, but then over time you get more confident and the sense of achievement was amazing. And now I'm super confident in most get chained. Fire goes out.

Fire goes out. But yeah, so we were really chuff with that. And now she goes to Recorder Club every week. And then we're going to slowly start putting in new ones. And they were really good to school. They sort of paired her up with a friend to walk in with. in with and the first first first first first first first first first first first first first first first first first first first first first first first first first first first first first first first first first first the first the first the first the first the first the first the first the first the first the first the first the first the first the first the first the first the first the first the first the first week she sat there in silence like just doing the recorder and then the teacher said second week she went she was asking questions and saying what no it was and really getting involved so yeah it's

really nice to see a sort of confidence evolving which yeah so that's nice and from one child star to another Rob do you like that? Yes do you like that link oh yes please. Who we got? A man who didn't want to go to diving club. We don't know that. But, no, he really wanted to go if he wants to go to dive in thea. Yeah, that's what he said. But, gold medal Olympian, national treasure, Devon, Devon boy, absolute legend.

And now podcaster, cially, crucially parent. Out of all those things, the most important bit, parent. Is Tom Daly? Tom Daly. Welcome to the podcast. Is it Sir Tom Daly? You must have some sort of OBE, MBE, O'Bee, O'Nea. to be O but there will be a sir one day, won't you?

You'll definitely be a sir one day Tom. Oh I don't know about that maybe, maybe one day, today. Who did you get it off? I got it off of Prince Charles at the time in I think it was August last year went to Windsor Castle. Oh nice. Oh nice. And do you get a plus one. And do you get a plus. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. bit like COVID strict I just had a plus one so me and my husband went down and then we had a lovely lunch afterwards and obviously on the high street on Wednesday they must have all of the people that go and get there like awards must go in for lunch because when we got there I give you a glass of champagne and I was like how do you know it yeah Who got one of the day you got one because I imagine it's like, oh my god, they're getting one This is such an honor then you turn a corner and go They've got one Exactly, to be honest. I'm just gonna sound any ban. I can't even I can't even remember who else was there was such a well win I feel? Yeah, I think I think I'd thin I thin. that I that I that that that thin. that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's the the that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's they. I'm they. I'm they. I'm they. I'm they. I'm they. I'm they. I'm they. I'm they. I'm they. I'm they. I'm such such such such such such such such such. I'm such a they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. that's such such such. that's such. that's such. that's such. that's such. gotten knighted. I don't know. Did you, I know you have to pay for the pictures, like you've just come off a roller coaster.

Do you? Yeah, you do. Yeah, you do have to pay for the pictures in the video. Yeah. No. Yeah, they're not allowed the royal family Instagram so is that ideal. I can take that. That's free for me. How much was it? Can you remember how much it was like school photos this is? I think it's like 250 quid? I mean that Winter Castle must be a steep up people I must say but apparently we have to keep chipping in. Wow. So Tom we're not just his talk about your own. their their their their to their to to their to to to their to to their to to their to to their th. to th. th. to th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. I thi. thi. I that's that's that's that's that's free that's free. I that's free. I that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's th. I th. I th. I th. I thi. I the. I the. I can't the. I can't the. I can't the. I can't the. I can't that. I can't that's free that's free that's free not just his talk about your visits to the royal family, also about your own family. So what you set up at home? You've got

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Have you taken him to the pool? Oh yeah, he can swim, which is nice. Because I think for me, it's not just about learning to swim, it's about like that water safety, like being able to, like, if he ever got in trouble. That was the main reason why I started in lymouth which was right by the water so if I ever fell in I could float my back on the surface or do whatever I needed to do. And then you became the world's best at falling in. You're the ultimate I'm falling. I know. I got a little bit fancier and then like before we near it here I am. How about you two Devon boys? Yeah this is it I'm from Dartmore you're from Darmouth I'd say you're the most the most the most the most from from from from from from from from from the most the most the most the most the most the most the th. th. I'm from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from the most. I'm from from from from the most. I'm from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from fromor, you're from Plymouth. Yeah. I'd say you're the most famous person from Devon now. Do you think that's true? So what about Sir Francis Drake? Oh, yeah, but we can't get him on the pod. So? Oh, yeah, that's

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of being able to have some kind of, I guess control because you feel so out of control in those first few weeks that you're like, what is this human being alien that you're holding and how all of a sudden now I am like the prime carer. They are completely dependent on what I do and what I say and how we act with them. So it's for me it just allowed me to like take some kind of stuff out of my head and just put it onto paper so I didn't have to think about it anymore. Yeah, so it was a bit of control. If you're logging it, you're doing something rather than just thinking about it and getting stressed. Yeah exactly. Did you find it quite stressful then when

when he was little? Yeah I mean the biggest stress thing for me was sleeping at night and then looking at him and he was so peaceful and it was like to. Oh my gosh is he breathing and it looks like oh my gosh is he breathing. And I know every parent. Oh I used to like's calling, one time, I'll be back in a sec, this is absolute classic. One time, you carry it, you carry on. You talk to me, Josh's daughters off, he's scurrying out the room, his daughters are sick.

But yeah, I've done that before, you wake them you think you know about what your child is going to be like, you just never know what's going to happen and what turns going to happen next. And I remember so many people giving me advice on this, you should do this or you should try this and this is how you should do it. And I was just like, and when people ask me, what the biggest piece, what's, what, what, what, what, to, to, to, to, to, to, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, to, to, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, to, and, and, and, to, to, and, to, to, to, and, and, to, to any other parents advice because like they don't know the kids. So it's like that's for me one of the things I had to learn and come to terms with for sure. Yeah it's a bit like you know what you need to do with kids is it's the same as going do you know what you need to do with people? Yeah no exactly. You know what you need to do with adults you like to that you to the adult adult. to to to to to to to the adult. to the adult. to the adult. the adult. to to to the adult. to to to to the adult. to the adult. to to to to to to be not. to be not. to be told. told. to to be the adult. told. to me to me. to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to know. to know. to know. to know. to know. to know. to know. to know. to know. to to to to to to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the te. te. told. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. to Was that something that was always, or was you just focused on the diving? And then that was something you thought about when you were getting near the end of your career.

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Robbie ready is here now so like we stuck with the same name wow that's so good how long between then and having the kid five years six years yeah yeah yeah and that and that and that and that and that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that th? th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. the. the. the. thi. the. the. the. thi. the. the. thi. the. the. so good. How long between then and having the kid? Five years, six years. Yeah, oh cool. So it's not like you sort of like decided then, you know, had a child straight away. It's like there was a bit of time between it. But I do think that's a good thing in, like,

dating just being honest and totally, six months of pretending to be someone else. We've all done. Exactly. Because it's like, you know, Lance was like my first ever long-term relationship really. And like for me, I was like, if I'm going to to invest my time in a relationship, because you know, with training, I didn't really have much time at all. So if I was going to invest in something, I was like, I actually want to know that I'm going to get the outcome that again.... I. I'm going. I'm going. I'm going. I'm going. I'm going. I'm going. I. I'm going. I'm going. I'm going. I'm going. I'm going. I'm going. I'm going. I'm going. I'm going. I'm going. I'm going. I'm going. I'm going to get going going to get going to get going to get going the to get going to get going to get going to get going to get going to get going going going going going going going going going going going going going going going going going going going going going going going going going going going going going going going going going going going going going going going going going going going going going going going going going going going going going going going going going going going going going going going going going going going going going going going going going going going going going going going going going... I. I. I. I. I. I I I I I I'm going going going. I'm going. I'm going. I'm going. I'm going to going to going to. I'm going to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to get to to to get to get to the the Like I'd like to know the plan. What am I doing? Where am I going? I was like writing down things, like, you know, what did he say on that day? Like, okay, yeah, I've got this. So for me it's like, starting, I'm learning more and more about

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its place and now it's just yeah it's chaos all the that you don't have time to worry about all those little things anymore. You just have to, I feel like the first six weeks in particular is like survival mode. Really, yeah. Oh, six weeks you're being very, very kind. I'd say the first six months for survival mode for me. True. I still feel like I'm in survival mode for to be honest. And was it surrogacy you were Lance did? Yes, yes. And then, excuse my novelty, but so did you get Robbie Ray like immediately it's sort of you're there for the birth and stuff like that?

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Yeah, last week I'm not getting to magic Mike. But we did like a few like musical trips. And we went to see Frozen and Matilda and Sixth the musical and he loved it all. Six is so nice. I think that's the best thing thing thing thing thing thing thing thing thing thing thing thing thing things things things things th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi that's thi that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the throoooooooooooooooooom-s. thea. thea. is so good. I love six. Six is so nice. I think that's the best thing I've seen at the theater, mainly because there's no interval and it's blasted out in 80 minutes. You're in and out. Yeah, and it's good. It's like you're at a concert. I loved it. And Robbie, like every night now we have to turn all the lights off and then routine to the whole musical. Amazing. But some of the words, my kids know the words and it's quite rude. I know, yeah, yeah, some of them, and he has no way to say what he's saying what he's saying. And I'm like, it's very, very funny.

Yeah, it's very sweet to see him do it and he just absolutely loves it. Yeah. So like we'd say you're, I'd say you're now seen as 70% a diver and 30% of our premier knitter. That's the way you are. I feel like it's the other way around sometimes to be honest. Yeah. Just to check, which did you get the OBE for? It could be one of the other. I know I need services to knitting. Maybe that's what the knitting, have you knitted with him yet?

What's the age you can start knitting? 83 normally. So he always, yeah, exactly 83. He has shown you some interest in wanting to learn. But the thing is, I feel like I don't want him to get him into it too soon, because it li it takes a lot of hand dexterity to be able to be able to do it and he might get frustrated so like I want him to like love it. Yeah and he can do it yeah I want him to love it I mean he's probably gonna be like yeah Papa no this is not for me whenever I've made him anything knit initially he was like wow thank you and now he's like no he's like

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point and you feel like you can't do it. But like if you are truly passionate about and you truly love what you do, it never feels like work and no matter if you have to do other things on the side as you're going it just creates this. I think everybody should have that little thing even if it's like if you're doing your job and it's not necessarily something that you want to be doing, if you got something outside of it that you love, like diving was what I love to do and then I made that into the thing that I did every day and then because that became that became that became that became that became that became that became that became that became that became that became that became that became that became that became that became that became that became that became that became that became that became that became that became that became that became that became that became that became that became the outside which then became knitting and then you know Now knitting has kind of like taken that forthreat and I just think there's always something Nice to have outside of what you're paid to do that you always have something Yeah outside of what you're paid to do that's like kind of becomes your superpower the way the way? The way the thing that you look forward to doing at the end of each day the thing th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. T th. T th. T th. T th. T th. T, th. I I th. I th. I th. th. th. th. th. th. thi a thi a thi a thi a thi. thi a thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi a thi a thi a thi a thi a thi a thi a thi a thi. thi. th. th. I I th. I I th. I th. I I I the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. I the th. th. I thi. thi. I thi a thi a thi a thi a thi a thi a thi a thi a thi a thi a thi a thi a thi a thi a thi a thi a thi a th doing at the end of each day, the thing that you kind of get to you out of your head, gets you out of your own way, and I think that's the, that's the, that's the key. I remember someone saying to me you should take up like, a really good thing is to do something

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put him to bed, and then I was off to bed. So it's like I actually feel like I get proper time with him now and like even weekends I can go out and do things. And it's such a precious time this age, between like four and 12. Rob, don't talk us out of another gold medal here, man. Yeah, let's break this down, Tom. Do you want two gold medals in the hall? Or do you want a son that comes around and sees you on a Sunday? That's the option. And the answer is fucking gold. to go and get it, son.

Bring down the reasons why we were able to win the gold as well is because you have that perspective on what matters most, so then you don't put the same amount of pressure on yourself because in 2008, 1216 I almost tortured myself through the whole experience because I wanted it so badly. But then when you realize actually, I've got all of the most important things in my life. You know, I've got all of the most important things in my life. I've got my family and they're going to love me whether I do well or not. So just go and have fun and enjoy it. And you've worked hard for it at this point. So just do your thing.

And is there part of you that would like him to see you? Because now obviously in Tokyo he wouldn't have been aware of what? Yeah, he was in Canada. If you went to Paris, I don't know whether he could be in the venue, but he could certainly watch it on TV and it would be an incredible thing. So do you think about that? Yeah, I mean he was, yeah, he could be in the venue. And then I also think like, well, the funny thing is, like, Lance and my mom were in Canada because Lance was shooting a TV show out there and he, so I think it was like, then like Robbie is like wakes up kind of like Dave like what and Earth is going on. So he does bring it up some and he understands that I went to the Olympics and I

dived and but yeah it would be kind of cool to have it be like an actual like core memory that he was able to see something. Yeah what I wanted to ask Tom now your son's in school, is are you making an effort with the parents? Are you in WhatsApp groups? Are you going for parent drinks? Have you been to the parties yet? Because it gets quite political. I'm not going to lie, Tom. How you find in school parents? To give you an idea, I've thrown myself in it, I'm really popular and I love it, and Rob hates all the other parents at his school. their, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th. th. th. thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, that, that, are, are, are, are, are, thrown, are, are, are, are, are, are, are, are, are, are, are, are, are, are, are, are, are, are their, are, are, are, are, are their, are, are, are, are, are their, are, are, are, are, are, are, are, are, are, are, are, are, are, are, are, are, are, are, are, are, are, are, are, are, th. th. th. thr. thr-a. thr-a, thrown, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their. their. their. their. their, are their, are their, are all the other parents at his school. So that's the two ends of the spectrum. That's not true. No, that is really bad actually. I hang about with the school parents at my school more than you. I play football with them on the Sunday.

We have kids over for sleepovers. I chat to everyone in the playground. I haven't as much with my youngest because I was away when she started when she when she when she when she when she when she to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to taking it to all the new parties. So actually, Josh, go fuck yourself. Sorry, Tom. How do you, how are you getting on? Tom, do you think Shania Twain would put up with that kind of interviewing style? I don't think you should drop into a DM drop. That doesn't impress me much that question actually. I'm in the WhatsApp. I'm in the WhatsApp groups. They can be very intense. Everything can be very serious sometimes and I'm just like you know what their kids they'll figure it out and it will be fine

and I think the nice thing about this is I guess it's nice then also a little bit like not nice is it seems like the parents have decided like not to do birthday parties for their kids. Oh at all at all. Or you haven't been invited. Robbie's or I've not been invited. Robbie's they had a party and I wasn't invited. No, but when we first started, the first two weekends had birthday parties, but that was because we knew the kids before they started and it was only a handful of kids. So it seems like each kind of birthday that might happen, do like a very like little like just their closest mates.

Oh, they're not doing a class party. Oh, that's good. They don't do class parties which because there's two classes in the year group and they kind of mix between like classes. So it's like 60 kids. So it becomes like probably a bit impossible to like try and invite everyone and like politically correct. I think people have just kind of done their own thing. Oh that's good. Have you been out with drinks with the moms and dads? They actually had like a dad's drinks

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just I just want to let you know a year six wrote this really really special letter and you can read it and then blessed they were so sweet and then I got to go and meet them and it was just very sweet so like little things like that I'd know you know you don't really you don't really you you you don't really you don't really you don't really you you th really th really that th really th really that that th really th really th th th that th th that th th th th th th th the the the the the happened with Rob they'd have gone. Do you want to meet him and Rob are going? No, I'm not interested, mate. See about it. I'll pop my head into reception. Never, any inspiring letters about me? Anyone wants to chat? No? Because I sort of grow around this area, so I've done quite a lot actually considering where I've come from. But they're not, no, they're not interested. Okay. But yeah, I always pop in and and just and just and just and just and just and just and just and their and their and their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their inspiring. Any their inspiring. Any their inspiring. Any their any their any any any any any any their any any any any any any any any any any any any any any any any any any any any any any any any any any any their any their any inspiring. any inspiring. any inspiring. any inspiring. any inspiring. any inspiring. any inspiring. any inspiring. any inspiring. any their their their inspiring. any inspiring. any their their inspiring. any their inspiring. any their inspiring. any their inspiring. their inspiring. their inspiring. their inspiring. their inspiring. their inspiring. their inspiring. their inspiring. their inspiring. their inspiring. their inspiring. their inspiring. their inspiring. their inspiring. their inspiring. their inspiring. their inspiring. their inspiring. their thes though you must feel that you know you're a normal person like everyone else, Tom, you get up in the morning sometimes, you're a bit tired or whatever, you had a late night and you just chuck on a tracksuit and get him into school and you feel almost a bit pathetic, and you just want to get back and have a coffee to sort of crack suit, and you just want to anxin' the trac suit, to be andip, or sometimes their their their their their their their their their their their their their their just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just their true just just a trac-a. their just just just just trac-a's just just trac-a and you just just just just just just their their their their just just just just just just just just just just just just just a their their their their their their just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just their their their their their their their their their their their their their trac-s. trac-s. trac-s. trac-s. trac-s. trac-s. trac-c-c-c-su-aulk soa. trac-s. trac-s. trac-s just trac-s just just just just just truc- I love an Olympic trap suit. I love tract suit. Especially having

one that you wore at the Olympics. But then for you it's normal. It's like you went there, you did that and then obviously the kids find it inspiring inspiring. How does it feel when you have to go and talk to them? It's part of you sort of, because you don, I'm just a bloke that's sort of really like diving and did it loads, and I don't really know what to say. Yeah, honestly, especially now that I'm not been like training as much, like, there's been many a time where I've like gone to like an event, like, you know, they always do those award shows in couple of beverages the night before and I rock up and win school and then I've got my nails painted and like I'm hobbling in like a mess and it's just but then that's when I feel

the pressure to put on a brave face and they're like oh like I've got my tractor sit on oh you're going training and I'm like yeah I am about to my bed to lay down. Yeah. So that's the varnish you've got because I've went to the gym the other day before pickups I turned up in my shorts and my trainers and everyone was like acting like I was you know oh have you been to the gym oh no like they didn't have respect for me. A couple more questions number one having listened to us do you think the Shania Twain we'd be her kind of s-oh oh the the the the the to to to to to to to th th. th. th. th. to th. Oh oh th. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh? th. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. Oh, th. Oh, thi's thi's thi's thi's their. Oh, they. Oh, they. Oh, they. Oh, the the the the the the thi. Oh, thi. Oh, thi. Oh, thi's. Oh, having listened to us, do you think that Shania Twain we'd be her kind of stick? She'd love this show. I think she'd love it. She's up for a good time. She'd love it. We've got to get Twain on. She's up for a good time. Sorry. Rob, you've got to slip into her DM's. Well, I'll get the TV company that booked her to do Rob. to do to do to do to do. I I I I I I I I I I I the th. I th. I th. I th. I th th th th th th th th the the the the. I the. I the the the. I the the. I thi thi the. I the's the the the the the the the the the the the the the. She'd love the she'd love th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th the she the she'd the she'd the. She the. She the. She'd the. She'd the. She'd the. She'd the. She'd love the. She'd love the. She'd love the. She'd love theeeeeee. She'd love theeeeee. She'd love the. She'd love the. She'd love the. She'd love to message. We always end with the same question which is what

one thing, well it's a kind of two-part question, but there's the positive one which is what one thing does your partner do which kind of you think that's the reason I'm with him an incredible parent you know I couldn't do that and then what's the one thing that annoys you about your partner's parenting? Then the thing that Lance is the the the the thauauauauauauauauauauauauauauauauauauauauauauauauauauauauauauauauauauauau how how how how how how how how how the one one one one one one an an an an an an an an an an an an an an an an an an annoying annoying annoying.a that that that th is the the the the thia. the the the the the the the the the the their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their thiiiiii.a. thi. the is. theanananananananananananananananananananananananananananananoi. that's paria they to listen? This would be your chance to communicate it to them. The thing that Lance is amazing at when it comes to Robbie is obviously Lance being a creative, he is so good with Robbie when it comes to like language stuff and having conversations, like one of the one things that he always said to Robbie when he was like, you know tha words to say. Like like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like the the the the th, like, like th, like th, like th, like th, like th, like th, like th, like th, like thi. Like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, th. Like, th. Like, th. Like, th. Like, th. Like, th. Like, thi. Like, thi. Like, thi. Like, like, like, like, like,twos and like he had enough words to say he would always say use your words Robbie use your words yeah Robbie never plays up with Lance in the like crime bit because Lance played

this whole gimmick of like oh I don't understand that language what language is like confused whenever he would scream or shout oh so now like he'll be screaming and shouting at me and then he'll turn to Lance to the to the the to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the they. they. I I I I I I I I I try. try. try. try. try. try. try. try. try. try. try. to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to turn to Lance and be like Papa doesn't know. So like he like definitely plays the top each other in that way. Papa doesn't know sounds like a Motown song. Yeah so I guess the child psychology I guess is a good thing that last got like in that way and is has very like deep conversations with Robbie and I think the one thing that I'm always a bit like well waking up in the the morning he can't do mornings. Oh the the the the the the the the the the the th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th tho tho tho tho tho tho. He to to thou tho-I to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to tou. I I I tou. I tou. I tou. I tou. tou. tou. tou. tou. tou. tou. tou. tou. to tou. to to. to. to. t up in the morning. It's not very good at the waking up in the morning. He can't do mornings. Oh really, Rose isn't good at my time. I can't do mornings. I'm the morning guy. It's annoying being the morning guy, right? Because I have to be the morning guy. It's not my fault I'm the morning guy, but I pay a tax for it which is I'm up making the tea for being. Yeah. Yeah. the morning the morning morning morning morning morning morning morning. Yeah. Yeah. I. I I I I'm up making the morning. I I I I I'm up making the morning. I'm up making. I'm up making. I'm up making. I'm up making. I'm making I'm making I'm up making I'm making I'm making I'm making I'm making I'm making the morning. I'm up making I'm making I'm up making the morning. I'm making I'm making I'm making I'm making I'm making I'm making I'm making I'm making I'm making I'm making I'm making I'm making I'm making I'm making I'm making. I'm making I'm making I'm making I'm making. I'm making I'm making. I'm making I'm making. I'm making I'm making. I'm making. I'm making. I'm making. I'm making. I'm making. I'm making. I'm making. I'm making. I'm making. I'm making. I'm making. I'm making. I'm making. I'm up making. I'm up making. I'm up making. I'm up making a. I'm up making a. I'm up making a. I'm up making a. I'm up making a. I'm up making a. I'm up making. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I it's your problem, not mine. I mean, we've also taught Robbie how to make the coffee. Does he?

What? He makes coffee? At five? And the crazy thing is, like, the other day, frost the milk? Where it doesn't frost the milk? He just makes the espresso, basically. Also, the other day I'm emptying the dishwasher, Papa, and I was like, okay. And then the other morning I came up, he made himself a salmon and cream cheese bagel.

No way. I'm into the oven, what's going on? Like, literally, I was like, Robbie, like, what on? What on? I was hungry. He's a middle age of all see, Robbie, little bagel this bagel cutter for Christmas, because he loves bagels. So he was able to cut his own bagel with a thing where you like push down onto it. And then yeah, he toasted it, spread the thing on and then he got the salmon out of the friage and just chucked it on top and off he went. Unbelievable. What's a kid.

Yeah. . coming on. Thank you for having me. Your podcast Made with Love. Yeah. First episode with Shania Twain I'm going straight to listen to. What should I listen to second? Who's the one after Twain that you'd... Well, the thing is, we're releasing them weekly. I mean Greta was a great, I mean Greta had like a really interesting fact about a family as well, which I had no idea about which was an interesting and I won't say what it is. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. I the. Oh. I the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the one. I the one. I the one. I the one. I the one. I the one. I the one. I the one. I the one. I the one. I the one. I the one. I the one. I the one. I the one. I the one. I the one. I the one. I the one. I the one. I the one. I the one. I the one. I the the the th. I th. I the the the the the the the the the the the the the one. I the one. I was. I was thethat's good. That's good. That's good. That's good. Look at that. Oh, little tease for you. He's preparing for his post-diving career. He knows out to me.

He knows how to play the media. What a little tease that one. Thank you very much. Tom. It's been brilliant. Tom Daly, love Tom Daly. What a legend. Great kid. Great kid. Great kid. Great kid.

A gaiter. I think I still think of him as a child, I think because that's when he was famous when he was a teenager, wasn't it? Yeah. But then also there's the other thing where you're 28. You've been famous forever. that one last games where they really shouldn't have done it. Absolutely. That'll be me when I do Family Fortunes when I'm 65. I couldn't give a shit. I reckon you'll be Family Fortunes by the time you're 40, Rob.

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