Parenting Hell with Rob Beckett and Josh Widdicombe - S6 EP28: JB Gill

Episode Date: April 14, 2023

 Joining us this episode to discuss the highs and lows of parenting (and life) is the brilliant actor, farmer, presenter and singer - JB Gill. JB first found fame as a member of the boyband JLS, who... came 2nd on The X Factor 2008. He was also the presenter on 'Down on the Farm' and his first children's book 'Ace and the Animal Heroes: The Big Farm Rescue' is available to pre-order now and out on the 27th April. Thanks, Rob + Josh. We're going on tour!! Fancy seeing the podcast live in some of the best venues in the UK? Of course you do, you're not made of stone! Tickets available now on the dates and at the venues below. We can't wait to see you there... ON SALE NOW  14th April 2023 - Manchester AO Arena 19th April 2023 - Nottingham 20th April 2023 - Cardiff  21st April 2023 - London (The O2) 23rd April 2023 - London (Wembley) 28th April 2023 - Birmingham Utilita Arena  If you want to get in touch with the show here's how: EMAIL: Hello@lockdownparenting.co.uk TWITTER: @parenting_hell INSTAGRAM: @parentinghell A 'Keep It Light Media' Production  Sales, advertising, and general enquiries: hello@keepitlightmedia.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Transcript
Discussion (0)
Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello, I'm Rob Beckett. And I'm Josh Winnockham. Welcome to Parenting Hell, the show in which Josh and I discuss what it's really like to be a parent, which I would say can be a little tricky. So, to make ourselves and hopefully you feel better about the trials and tribulations of modern-day parenting, each week we're chatting to a famous parent about how they're coping. Or hopefully how they're they're tha th hearing from you the listener with your tips, advice, and of course, tales of parenting woe. Because let's be honest, there are plenty of times when none of us know what we're doing.
Starting point is 00:00:33 Looking for a collaborator for your career, a strong ally to support your next level success, you will find it at York University School of Continuing Studies, where we offer career programs purpose-built for you. Visit continue. York you.C.A. Back to school signals a fresh start for students. New classmates, new teachers, new lessons. Change is in the air. But one thing hasn't changed. The Ford government still isn't investing in public schools. Six years of cuts mean our students aren't getting the supports they need.
Starting point is 00:01:11 They can't wait another year. If the Ford government won't change, it's time to change the government. Our kids are counting on us. Join us at Building Better Schools. A message from the Elementary Teachers Federation of Ontario. What does Possible sound like for your business? It's more cash on hand to grow with up to 55 interest-free days. Redefine possible with Business Platinum.
Starting point is 00:01:35 That's the powerful backing of American Express. Terms and Conditions apply. Visit MX. Hello, you're listening to Parenting Hell with, Betty, can you say Rob Beckett? Well, Beckett. And can you say Josh Whitticum? That's good! How do you feel about that, Josh? How do you feel about that? It wasn't good. But, I like this. Hi, Josh and Rob, in brackets, it's never written that way around, is it? No. No. This is my daughter Betty, it's 25 months old. It's thirty. It's. It was. It's. It's. It's, it. It's, it. It's, it. It's, it. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to say to say to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to thi. thi. Rob, the. Rob, the. Rob, the. Rob, Rob, Rob, Rob, Rob, Rob, Rob, Rob, the. Rob, the. Rob, the. Rob, the. Rob, thi. thi. Rob, in brackets, has never written that way around, is it? No.
Starting point is 00:02:06 No. This is my daughter Betty, who's 25 months old, in brackets. Let's be honest, she's two. Keep it sex and relatable, Martha in Ealing. What's Ealing like? I spent the first six months of my life in Ealing. Did you? Oh, maybe that's why she likes you more than me went for the Josh Rob. How do you feel about it? It's Rob Beckett and Josh Winnockham's parents in Hill. Fine. Yeah. A shorter name goes first anyway,
Starting point is 00:02:29 doesn't it? Is that how it works? Isn't it alphabetical normally? I don't know. Lennon and McCartney. Yeah. But I, all right. You're all right, mate? You know what happened yesterday? You'll what happened yesterday? You'll enjoy this. the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the th. the th. the th. the th. the the th. the thi. that, the the the the the the th. the the the the the th. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. theeeeee. theeeeeeeeeeea. theee. the. the.this. God. You know my cat that every three months has to go to the vet to have her... Gould stones is it? Bloodestones? It's like a liver or whatever it is. Kidneys. Kidnies. Kidnys. Kiddnys. Kiddnys. Kiddnys. Yes, kidney flushes. That's the one. Yeah. So, Rose had to go out. Rose is your own cat's the the the the the the the the the the the the the the to the the the to go. Clots. Clots. Clots. to go. to go. to go. to go. to go. to go. to go. Go. Go. Go blood. Go. Go go go go go go go. Goathea's to go. Goatheatheatheatheatheatheatheatheatheatheatheatheatheatheathing. Go go go go go go go go go go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go. to go. to go. Go. Go. Go. Go. Go. Go. Go. Go. Go. Go. Go. Go. Go. Go. Go. Go. Go. Go. Go. G. Go. G. G. Gatheatheatheatheatheatheatheatheatheatheatheatheatheatheatheatheatheatheatheatheatheatheatheatheatheatheatheatheatheatheatheatheatheatheatheatheat. to go. to go. to go out. It was 11 a.m. that I was doing it. And so I had to... You were doing the flushing? No, I was taking the cat. Your own cat's kidneys? Yeah, I do, yeah. I had to take the cat to the vet for 1115. Okay, sorry. We couldn't put, Rose was going out and taking the kids to nursery and play s-ayskine play scheme. So I was basically left. the the the the the the the the the the the the the to the the the taken taken to taken taken taken taken taken taken taken taken told. taken taken told. told. taken told. told. taken today. told. toolususususususususususususususususususususususususususkysysysysyskyskyskyskyskyskyskyskyskyskyskyskyskyskyskyskyskyskyskyskyskyskyskyskyskyskyskyskyskyskyskyskyskyskyskys. toy. toy. toy. toy. toy. toy. toye. t. t. t. t. So. t. So. t. So. So, t. So, t. So, t. So, t. So, t. So, tipe. So. So, tote. So, tot with the cat locked in the house.
Starting point is 00:03:25 I did some work upstairs, cleaner was here, and then told her she couldn't go in the bedroom because the cat was locked in the bedroom. But we can't just put her in the bedroom. Why is a cat locked in the bed? Oh because you don't want to go out to go out. I'll find it. Yeah, I'll get you. Anyway, go into the bedroom to to to to to the bedroom. the bedroom. the bedroom. the bedroom. the bedroom. the bedroom. the bedroom. the bedroom. the bedroom. the bedroom. the bedroom. the bedroom. the bedroom. the bedroom. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the cat. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the t. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the too. the t't in the bedroom with a door clock like a kind of Jonathan Creek style mystery right I'm saying to Rose I don't know what you know we've locked the door there's basically like Rose and me have it's right he's back at this point no I'm phoning her up I love that you always ring Rose
Starting point is 00:04:03 because it's her cat I know it's like I was like where's the cat I was like where's the cat I was like where's the cat I was I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I'm I'm the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I'm I I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th the th th the th the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the vet. I love the vet. You always ring Rose. Why? Because it's her cat. I know it's her cat, Josh. I was like, where's the cat? Do you lock it in the bedroom? She's locked in the bedroom? She's locked nothing in the bedroom. Okay, so she told you she's locked the cat in the bedroom. I just thought you'd wrong someone who's not in the house to ask where that is. Okay, she's, okay. So I'm gonna have to, the cat's are right off. Gonna have to go downstairs, I'm gonna have to phone the vet.
Starting point is 00:04:29 So the cat, she didn't actually lock the cat, she thought the cat was in the bedroom, but it wasn't. She locked nothing. She loved. She loads nothing. couldn't go in the bedroom. That was always the truth. Where you wanted the cat to be? Yeah, yeah, exactly. Bear in mind, like I'd open the bedroom door like creaked to open so the cat didn't jump out as I got in all that kind of stuff. Oh, and sliding in sideways. Yeah. All that. All that shit. Go downstairs. The cat's in the fucking kitchen couldn't believe my luck. I was, I, there's a second chance of this.
Starting point is 00:05:10 First thing I do, block the cat flap, so now we're in the house. Now we've narrowed it down to the house. Yeah. We've got five minutes till the cat needs to be in the car. Right. Basically I'm chasing the cat around the bottom floor of our house. I hope the kids, which is like the kitchen and the room. So have you shut, is there a door to the stairs that you can shut?
Starting point is 00:05:33 I've blocked those off. Yeah, so that's good. You're slowly closing the pru- Slowly closing it down. It feels a bit like, you know when like lockdown ended. Yeah, you could slowly start doing more things you could sort of. Yeah. And so. But I couldn't one-on-one with the cat. It just it was, it was two hiding places. It was outpomping. Too many knickknacks, wait. There was too many knick knacks. If a cat's under a sofa, you just can't get it out. Yeah, but then it'll go one way, you know. Not hitting a cat, but you hit the stick on the floor and it scares it out. Yeah, but then it goes one way you go the, it was just going under the kitchen tape, it was, it was, it was a game of cat and mouse. It was a game a cat and mouse, yeah. And then, so I was like, I'm gonna have to ask Toledo, I clean her to help me. But she speaks minimal English, Rob. Where did she come?
Starting point is 00:06:29 Where's Toledo from? Brazil? Right, Paul James, Portuguese. Well, normally we use Google Translate on our phones. Right, okay. To communicate. So. Oh no. So... Oh no. So... But she's watched the whole thing unfold.
Starting point is 00:06:50 So she knows what I'm going to ask. Yeah. It doesn't take a genius to work at you. You don't need a try... So what did you write in Google translate? No, it didn't. I said... I said, could you help me catch the cat? In English? Yeah, but she knows about cat.
Starting point is 00:07:08 No, no, I'm not criticizing. And also she's just watching me trying to catch the cat. So she's not going to go watching me. So, anyway, basically then, me and Tolita are kind of chasing this cat around two on one, unable to, you know, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, too, too, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to..a, to, to, to, to, to, to me.a, to me. toe. toe. toe. tooome. tooome. tooome. tooome. too, too, too, toe. to cat around two-on-one, unable to, you know, defenders, it's all about communication, but we can't communicate on the move. What you want to say is you hang at the end of the sofa, I'll flush the cat out, and then you grab it all. Of course, you got all about communication.
Starting point is 00:07:43 So how did it, how did you and DeLita get on? How do we get on? We got the cat. We got the cat. Yeah. Who grabbed the cat? Me? I got it. So she was she flushing? Well no, the vet was flushing.
Starting point is 00:07:58 That's how that was... Oh yes! That is lovely stuff. Yeah. But anyway, so, um, then the cat pissed on me through fear when I got it. Oh, it's annoying. Through fear? Well, because she hates that box. Oh, she doesn't like going in there.
Starting point is 00:08:16 It's annoying, isn't it, cats? And dogs? I love the cat. Do I love the cat. I do actually, because when it lo' th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th that that that that that that that, that, that, that, that, that, the cat, the cat, the cat, the cat, the cat, the cat, the cat, the cat, that, that, that, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that,. Okay, you said you love the cats, but you like them, so you don't love them? I do actually, because when it looked like she was going to die, I was absolutely gutted. Yes. But when you're on your hands and knees with Tolita, part of you thinking, how much longer we got to do this for? Well, pardon me, just thin, this is basically Rose's cat. Rose's cat. Why am I and Toledo doing this? Where had Rose gone? Where had Rose gone?
Starting point is 00:08:51 She's gone to do drop-off and then she's gone to the gym. Right, okay. There we go. How you've always been? My daughter says yard instead of garden and I hate it. But I don't want to feel like an old man. Dad, when can we go and play in the yard? So what is she an American?
Starting point is 00:09:15 She's been watching Big City Green. Do you ever see that? No? It's like a kid's thing, but it's like these sort of like country American people move to the city? And they're like banging the yard, yeah you know that was a terrible impression. Oh no what I've been up to so I've realized I do something do you ever do this say we're chatting say we're talking about kidney flushing I would sometimes spell flushing in my head like F-L-U-L-U-S-H-I-N-G like over- like over over over over over over over over over over over over like over over over over over over, like over, like over, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, the-and, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, the the the the to, like, like, like,N-G, like over and over again and I can see the letters almost like it's subtitles. Oh that's interesting. Do you do that? No, Lou doesn't either.
Starting point is 00:09:48 So when you're talking to me you're doing that in your head? Yeah so Oh, that's that's interesting. Yeah. So I wonder what that is. Not always but sometimes, sometimes or or I'll think if I'm driving along I'm thinking like oh you know kitchen oh we need to I need to sort the kitchen out and I'll be driving then after that thought it'd be like k-i-t-c-h-hg-n-k-k-k-k-wha Wow please write in and tell us what that is people or if you I think I think it's called ticket-taping but I don't know if if it's I don't know, it's just a quirk. Do you do that one? No, it's not always, it's not every word, but sometimes I will just get in a, I find myself in a bit of a loop doing it.
Starting point is 00:10:31 Ah, that's interesting. I think it's called tick-a-taping. Did you do it during the flushing? So that's what I have to do is try, when I try and do like breathing and meditate and try not think. But my brain's constantly worrying like, dr-r. And it's not always negative stuff or bad stuff, it'll be like, so for example, I'll, you know, I'll see like an old bloke walking into a bank, which I saw the other day, and he looked like he had a gun in his bag. but I thought that would be quite funny wouldn't it if like an old bank robber that keeps trying to rob banks but he's so old and he can't do it anymore just keeps doing it wrong to the point no one actually thinks he's robbing a bank and then I've written like a sitcom or a film in my head about it. And stuff like that but yeah then yeah so it's constantly worrying but then I do do that spelling out of stuff but I don't really that that that that do that that do that that do do that that that do that do that do that that that do that do that that that that do do that that do that do do do do that do do that that that that that that that do that that that that that that to that to to to to that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that the th th I thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi they thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi th. Fascinating that you do that. I'd want to know more about that from our listeners, please. I don't know what
Starting point is 00:11:28 what that I'm thinking about doing a TV show called What is wrong with Rob Beckett because there's definitely something and I think it'll be quite good to nail it down. I would watch. Yeah I mean he's going, go me walking into a doctor's and go look, I'm not quite right. There's something going on here. I don't know what I'm all right. I'm not nothing. You don't want to, you don't want to lose it, do you? Like, do you know what makes, it's like what makes you you, you? Yeah, of course. And what's it's a blurring of what's personality and quirks and then what is an actual sort sort medical condition or a condition that your life would be easier if you didn't have that but it's all a big mix I'm not looking actually what but I definitely feel like there's a few things that have probably got a name that I
Starting point is 00:12:17 have you know I mean but maybe I just thought it was being chirpy but it's not there's more going on there there lot going on in there, busy old brain. Then I went, we went shopping the kids, right? And they're quite delicate about this, right? So the kids, if we buy them clothes now, they refuse to wear them, right? Because they like, I on their little cards. They've got some like cards and they wanted to buy perfume, right? Oh, right.
Starting point is 00:12:49 So we need to body shop and they ended buying. I think she went in a body shop for a seven year old and five year old and said, hello, my daughters want to buy perfume, please can you help. Because like, what, kids don't need perfume. I don't want their their their. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. their. their. their. I. their. th. I want, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. they. th. th. they're. to buy. to buy. to buy, to buy, to buy, to buy, to buy, to buy, to buy. So, to buy. So, to buy. So, to buy. to buy. to buy. to buy. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they're. they're they're they're they're th. they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they want. to to to to to to to buy. to they're to buy. they're to them to start getting like also it's expensive perfume luckily that all like vegan fruity like body sprays that aren't sort of yeah they're quite like it's not chemically and stuff like that they bought a grapefruit one and a strawberry one anyway they loved it so I had the perfume on and we went clothes shopping because me and Lou said look they're not wearing the clothes so why don't we take them and let them choose. Yeah the worst mistake we've they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they're not wearing the clothes, so why don't we take them and let them choose? The worst mistake we've ever made in our life. Really?
Starting point is 00:13:27 The outfits they come back with, and personally, I quite like Nex, I think Nex do really good clothes, and a good range. And, you know, not too pricey. Primark stresses me out, but they do do good bits and Lugo's in there, but I do do good bits and Lou good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good, and Lou, and Lu and Lu and Lou, and Lugo, and Lugo, and Lugo, and thage, and thage, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, I, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I, I thi, I thi, I thi, and I th, I th, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, and I thi, and I, and I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I thi, I, I, I, I th, I thi, I th, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, they're they're thi, they're they're thi, they're all that Zara is quite expensive, Zara, but some of the people that go in there dress in a way that me and Lou would never dress. I'd say 80% of the people in Blue Water that go in there for like little bits and bobs are just sort of like quite running the bill quite normal. There's a 20% which are basically teenage girls that are about 12 that go in with no clothes on and more makeup on than if they were entering the Love Island Villa. All right, Granddad, calm down.
Starting point is 00:14:08 No, no, no, no, this is not Grandad. This is, I'm talking thick makeup. However, that group of girls go in there a lot of shopping, so all the clothes are crop tops, short little skirts, right. But my kids now are in the 7 to 13 bracket. Oh no. They're not in little kids. So my five-year-old daughter picked up a pink crop top, quite low-cut with a pair of flares. She's five. I can't dress her in that Josh and then she started having a
Starting point is 00:14:46 meltdown because we wouldn't buy it and it was supposed to be their choice. And now me and Lou. Basically we are we are holding outfits that if they walked into the Love Island Villa people would go oh it's a bit short on it. I know they're the bombshell but it was a complete disaster so then what we did was buy the clothes hoping that they're in the bombshell, but to be a short. It was a complete disaster. So then what we did was buy the clothes, hoping that they forget they exist, leave them in the bag in the boot, so that next time we go back,
Starting point is 00:15:13 I can't dress them and get the money back. Because I can't dress my daughter in their clothes. Have they forgot they exist? to your party, you would say what's happening. It's not fancy dress, is everything okay? Yeah. So the clothes are in the bag and we're taking them back next week. So the plan now is me and Lou are going to find clothes and put them in the basket on an online shop and ask them to pick out of our shortlisted items. Oh! That's the future until as long as we can get away with that. Yeah. Oh my word, this is only th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th thi thi thi thi thi the the the thi thi the the the the the the the them them them them them them them them them them them them th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi the the the the to to to to to to to to to to to to the to the theeeeeeeeeeeeeeee the the the the the future until, until as long as we can get away with that. Yeah. Oh my word, this is only going one way. Five years time.
Starting point is 00:15:51 Right, should we bring on our guest? Yeah, because I need a lie down. Yeah. J.B. from JLS and of course down on the farm. Lou's favorite member of JLS, she loves this guy. JB. Two kids and a farm. What a man. This episode is brought to you by Nespraso. Elevate your morning coffee ritual. From the first sip of coffee in the morning to the on-the-go cup.
Starting point is 00:16:16 Make every morning unforgettable with Nespresso. Discover a world of possibilities, with or without milk. Visit Nespresso.c.c.c.c. to learn more or an espresso boutique near you. Miller Light. The light beer brewed for people who love the taste of beer. And the perfect pairing for your game time. When Miller Light set out to brew a light beer, they had to choose great taste or 90 calories per can. They chose both, because they knew the best part of beer is the beer.
Starting point is 00:16:50 Your game time, tasks like Miller time. Learn more at Miller Light.C.A. Must be legal drinking age. J.B. Hello. I'm very well, thanks. All the bit of a CD, lads. Thanks for doing this. Yeah. Yeah. Because. Because. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they. Because they. Because they. Because they. Because they. Because they. Because they. Because they. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. they're. th. to. to to to to to to to to th. th. th. the. the. the. they they they they they they they they they they? Hello. I'm very well thanks. All the bit of a sini lad. Thanks for doing this. Yeah. Well, we're very excited by this. Do you want to go first as to why you're excited? Robb. And then I'll say why I'm excited. Well, I think you're more excited than me not to go in hard on you J.B. My wife is obsessed with J.L. to the point where where where where where th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. Yeah. th. Yeah. th. Yeah. th. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. th. Yeah. th. th. Yeah. th. Yeah. th. Yeah. th. Yeah. th. th. Yeah. th. Yeah. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. when I said I'll swing to you, she screamed a way I've not heard her ever scream, like she was 17 again, going, oh my God, J.B. who's my favorite?
Starting point is 00:17:30 Like a way that a child would say about you. And I remember I got caught in about two hours worth of traffic picking her up from a JLS concert years ago. So it's difficult for me, I'm very happy you're doing this, but your success has impacted me in negative ways in the past. But hopefully we can move on through this as Josh also is a huge fan of your second career as it was. So I think we can get through that pain, Josh, don't you think? Yes. Yeah. All I'm going to say is I love down on the farm. He's obsessed with it. So who's So who's, you happy, are Rob's wife as a thou or? Or that I'm a fan of you? What's your preferred? I mean, I'll take them both. Of course,
Starting point is 00:18:12 like you say, Rob, I can understand. I've had lots of reports of people and boyfriends and husbands who've had similar, let's say challenges. You should have just come to the show. She wants, she'd rather, she'd rather be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be happy to be happy to be happy to be happy to be happy the, you, you to be happy the to be happy their their their their their their their their their happy happy happy happy happy happy their their their their their their their their. You're happy. You're happy. You're happy. You're happy. You're happy. You're happy. You're happy. You're happy. You're happy. You're happy. You're happy. You're happy. You're happy. You're their their their their their their their their their their their, you. You. You. You. You. You're happy. You're happy. You're happy, you're happy, you're happy, you're happy, you're happy. to have to have to have to have to have to have to be happy. to have to have to be happy. to be happy. their their their theto the show. You should just come to the show. She wants, she'd rather, she'd rather be married to you. That's the elephant in the room here. She'd rather be married to you. That's what I'm saying. Well, it's all right. You don't have to worry because I'm married as well. Right, okay, good. That's good. Okay, that's good. Yeah, We can't move. That that's that's. That's. That's. That's. That's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's good. that's that's the that's that's that's the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the theherea. She's thea. She'll thea. She's thea. She'll thea. She's thea. She's the elephant. She's the elephant. She's the elephant. the elephant. the now. Is your wife a fan of Rob Beckett? Yes she is like we sat down and we've watched a few of your bits to be fair Rob. Well that's that's helping. Yeah I'll be honest I can't quite say that she's your biggest fan. Let's move on from this rivalry now and let's talk about the kids how you got J B for the listeners what's the set up at home? I've got two so I've got a boy th boy boy boy boy boy boy boy boy boy boy boy boy boy boy boy boy boy boy boy boy boy boy boy boy boy boy boy boy boy boy boy boy boy boy boy boy boy boy boy boy boy boy boy boy boy boy boy boy boy boy boy boy boy boy boy a boy boy boy boy boy boy boy boy a boy boy the boy the boy the boy the boy the boy he he he's a boy the boy he he's a boy the boy the boy the boy the boy the boy the boy the boy the boy the boy the boy the boy the boy the boy the boy the boy the boy the boy the boy the boy the boy boy boy boy boy boy boy boy boy boy boy boy boy boy boy boy boy boy boy boy boy boy boy boy boy boy boy boy boy boy boy boy boy boy boy boy boy boy boy boy boy boy boy boy boy boy boy boy boy boy boy boy boy boy boy boy boy boy boy. the boy. the boy. the boy. the boy. the boy. the boy. the boy. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the boy who's the boy who's the boy. the first. And then I've got Kiara who's four, little princess. She's brilliant, she's good fun. She's my youngest and yeah, we've just got two, one of each.
Starting point is 00:19:11 And you live on an actual farm, don't you? Yeah. You live on a working farm, not to take it back to the farm straightaway. So did you move out there because of your family? to give thrown tho mean just to give me a little bit of background, I've grown up really in South London pretty much most of my life. What about Jabee? Well, so when I was about four, I used to live in the Caribbean for a little while, because my mom and dad used to work, I'm actually born here, but they worked out in Antigua until I was about three or four, and then we moved here again, well they moved here for work, and I went to primary school in Tulls Hill. Oh, that's just around the corner.
Starting point is 00:19:46 This is getting worse, my bumping ground. Right, I'll where are you now? Well, that was about 13. We moved to Croydon. So South Coydain. Okay, that's closer. Yeah. We were there until I was about 24.
Starting point is 00:20:01 And th and th and th and th and th out to the farm. So we've been there 13 years now coming up. Nice. Do your kids love the farm? Yeah, do you know what for me just to as I say paint in that picture? It was before that to the tooes. Yeah, obviously looking to move in together and so on. What kind of lifestyle did we want to have for ourselves and for our future and for our family. And at the time, I mean, I was so busy with. to to to to to. We. We. to. to. to. to. the to. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the to. to. to to. the to their their their their their their their their their their their their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. t. t. t. t. t. ta. ta. ta. ta. ta. ta. ta. ta. ta. ta. tha. tha. tha. tha. ta. to have for ourselves and for our future and for our family. And at the time, I mean, I was so busy with JLS like, you know, obviously as you can imagine touring a bit like, you know, you're you know, if you're up and you know you're away and you know, you've got lots going on and you know lots of projects, lots of TV where everything's you know, you know, as you can't thr. to thi. And as you can thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. the thi. thi. the the the they. they. thi. the the to to to they. to to to they, to to to to to to to to they. to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to imagine, obviously, obviously, obviously, obviously, obviously, to imagine, to imagine, to imagine, to imagine, to imagine, to imagine, to imagine, to imagine, the they, the the the they, the the the the the to the to to to to to, you, you, you the to, you to, you the the to the the tou. the to. the tou. the tha. the tha. too. the to. to to to to to to to to to days in a three, four month period where you actually could do nothing. You know, it's all about being outdoors in the countryside, you know, being able to go for walks. You know, we had a dog at the time and take our dog for walls, stuff like that. So that kind of became the foundation for it. And then when I was about just before we were about to have, to have, to. And, to, to, to, to, the, to, to, the, to, to, to, to, the, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to be, to be, to be, to be, to be, to, to, to, to, to, to be, to be, to be, to be, to be, to be, to be, to be, to be, to be, to be, to be, to be, to be, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to have, no just after store we had Ace, that's when we approached by down on the farm. And I'd actually had the farm set up for a couple of years by that point, so we had pigs on site, we had turkeys and stuff, which we still do commercially.
Starting point is 00:21:13 And effectively, it was just a case of, you know, how can we make this space that we've had, we've got about 15 acres here, Yeah, long story short and I spoke to previous owners and I did a bit of research on the area and you know on soil types and all that interesting stuff. You're in it hardcore, this isn't just like a couple of animals you are on soil types. It's unbelievable. You never believe just how much difference it makes. Clay and and very clay and where are you Kent?
Starting point is 00:21:43 Yeah. You're in Ken? Oh, Rob. We're gonna be Mables. Down the ride. But yeah, do you know what? So obviously, you know, there was a lot of research to be done and not really coming from a farming background. It was a massive step. But, you know, as I say, I was always incredibly passionate about it. And then when down on the farm came along. the the farm came along a the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their. their their. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. th. I. th. th. th. th. I. th. I was. Yeah. I was. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. th. I was. th. I was. the. I was. the. I was.the farm came along and obviously then Ace came along around about a similar time and you know then all of a sudden it became less about me and then more about the next generation. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. So as I say for me, for me, it's such an incredible industry to be able to support. We don't have the biggest farm in the world but you know we have a bigger voice the most farmers, you know, and so for me it's always been, I'm very passionate about utilizing that voice in any way that I possibly can, and being able to shine a light on, as I say, what I think is a fantastic industry.
Starting point is 00:22:32 And do you think Lou would be good on the farm, Rob? Ah, let's move away from Lou? What about Jeremy Carl? So what do you think about him? Do you think he's planning for a to be. And, to to to to to to to to be, to be, to be, to be, to be, to be, to be, their, to be, their, to be, to be, to be, their, to be, to be, to be able, to be able, to be able, their, to be able, to be able, to bea, to bea, to be able, to be able, to be able, to be able, to to their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, thi.s.s.s.s, to be able to light, to be able to light, to be able to light, to be able to light, to be able to light, to be able to light, to be able to light, to be able to light, to be able to light, to the corporate group. To be fair, Jeremy's been asked a lot of questions and I mean he's absolutely adored by the farming community. Yeah, but he asked a lot of very important questions. You know, and there's certain things when you just think, why is it not like that? You know, and often it takes someone who's outside of that industry who hasn't grown up in it, he hasn't, isn't just doing it the way things have always been done, the way, th... th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, the way, thi, thi, the way, the way, the way, the way, the way, the way, the way, the way, the way, the way, the way, the way, the way, the way, the way, the way, the way, the way, the way, the way, the way, the way, the way, the way, the way, the way, the way, the way, the way, the way, the way the way thi. thi, thi, thi. to to to to to thi. to to thi. to to to thi.ored, they. they. they they their their their their thr done, propose those questions. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, and similarly for me, you know, being able to see shows on television, whether it's streaming sites, whether it's documentaries, whatever it might be, somewhere where it's been accessed by mainstream media is really, really important.
Starting point is 00:23:17 Yeah. Not just for people to appreciate sort of food and where it comes from, you know, one of the things that I saw through the lockdown was, you know, all of a sudden our appreciation for food and how it gets to our plates completely changed when we walked into the supermarket and we couldn't get eggs and we couldn't get flour and we were like, hold on a second we were about to bake you know, our 50th batch of muffins and there's nothing that we can't use, you know, you know, theyme, we can't use, we can't, we can't use, we can't use, we can't use, we can't use, we can't use, we can't use, we can't use, we can't use, we can't use, we can't use, we can't use, we can't use, we can't use, we can't use, the the the the the the the the the the the the the their, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th.. th. th. that, that, that, threat. threaten, that, threaten, that, threat., that, threat. threat. that, threat. th's not, you know, a political debate or, you know, on question time or whatever, it's brilliant. It's amazing. I'm a huge advocate for it, yeah. Yeah, of course. And I'm sure the kids absolutely love it, you know, the perfect age with all the animals and being in the countryside. But you've traveled the world, you know, with JLS. You've been all over the place. the place. the place. the the the the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. to, th. th. to, th. to. to. to. th. th. th. to. th. th. thi. to. I. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I's, I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. It. It. It. It. It. It's. It's. It's, th. It's, t. It's t. It's t t t t t toda. And, t toda. t toda. toda. t today. th. today. I'm th and stuff like that, are you worried that when they get to 1617, they're just gonna be like, see it later, I'm going.
Starting point is 00:24:08 I'm prepared for that, that's gotta be the worry, yeah, it's probably cool. I've been prepared for that, but for me, it's about that mindset, you know, and it's like with anything, they don't necessarily need to to to to to to to to to to think differently. Do you know what I mean? And even now, you know, we talk about, you know, producing beef and cattle and the rise of veganism and all that sort of stuff, they're all good things. You know, it's not to say that everyone's all just going to become a vegan, but actually for me, there's value and balance, do you know what I mean? And being able to have consciously about, hold on a second, should I not have a couple of days in my week where I don't have any meat? Yeah, that's a good thing to do.
Starting point is 00:24:47 Do you know what I mean? It's not a bad thing. And so for me, if my kids can grow up around that and grow up with a love of the countryside, grow out with a love of animals, go outthey're involved in health, education, politics, arts, entertainment, whatever they end up doing as sort of that their main career, and I'm sure they'll go on and they'll be incredibly successful, I want them to be able to use that position in order to help our society, do you know what I mean? Not just from what they do, but the meat comes from? Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:25 And so did that freak them out? Did they still want to eat meat after or did they not want to eat meat? Because when I was eating lamb once, I told my daughter where it came from and she was horrified with me and didn't speak to me for about two days. And she refuses to eat it. I've always grown have him sort of not obviously cooking with me but you know having my arms and you know tasting a bit of pasta and telling me if it's cooked yet or whatever. I've always done that with them and told them where their food comes from. Bless Ace I mean he's been on the farm with me when we've been out there with the turkeys and you know lost 50 to fox and the foxes and the focke the 50 was gonna say that Fox that he's locking up down 50 turkeys I mean you can
Starting point is 00:26:10 imagine what it's like around here yeah I mean literally I walked in and they were all outside the pen which was good but it was just a massacre oh god there was nothing you can do about it and if you leave it out it just attracts more so you got to just deal with it as soon as it happened. Oh my God. So you and Ace were clearing it. Yeah, eight year old was helping clear up. He wasn't even eight. He was like five and it was right before. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:26:31 Obviously he wasn't picking them up, but you know, I'd say to listen, just hold the bag there for me. I've got told Chloe, bless sir, she didn't have a go at me, but, um, She won't happen. But, do you know, I mean, that's just part, you know, that was in the earlier days, you know, that's part of farm life
Starting point is 00:26:54 and it's, it is tough, you know, and it's difficult. That's one of the reasons why I was try try try try try try try why I why I why I why I why I why I why I why I why I why I why I always why I always why I always why I always why I always why I always why I always try why I always try why I was try that's why I was try that's why I was that's why I was that's why that's why that's why that's why that's why that's why that's why that's why that's why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why that's why th why th why th why th why th why th why I th why I th why I th why I th why I th why I was thi thi thi thi thi thr. thr. thr. thr-i. thi. that's why that's why that's why that's why that's why thr. that's why that's why that's why that'sthere'll be people who that 50 birds or whatever it might be is literally their profit works out for the year. Goodbye. Yeah. So is the farm like, you know, your proper sort of business that's sort of like, you know, you're running it to earn a profit as a business man and a farmer? Or is it more of like a bit of fun and something to do, you know, you've earned so well from jail let's and such an amazing career. Is it like a bit of fun in retirement as it were, or is this a proper, I'm running this farm for a profit and want to build on it and stuff like that?
Starting point is 00:27:31 Yeah, I mean it's run as a business and it's it has to turn a profit. I mean, we've gone from, with our turkeys anyway, we've gone from having I, I, I, I, I, I th. th. th. th. th. th. tho, I've tho, I've gone, I've gone, I'm, I'm thi. thi. I'm thrown, I'm thrown, I'm thrown, I'm thrown, I'm a proper, I'm thrown, I'm a proper, I'm thrown, I'm thrown, I'm a proper, I'm a proper, thi, thi, thi, thi, or a proper, or a proper, or a proper, or a proper, or a proper, or a proper, or a proper, thi, or a proper, or a proper, or a proper, or a proper, or a proper, or a proper, or a proper, or a proper, or a proper, or a proper, or I'm a proper, or a proper, thrown, thrown, thrown, thrown, thrown, thrown, thrown, thrown, toe. toe. thrown, thrown, been about, I think it's coming up to nine or ten years this year, you know, so it's grown year on year, a great relationship with sort of local customers and stuff and we've built a good customer base that people come back to us. And yeah, you know, for us it's obviously, it's not my main source of the thi. It's definitely, you, you, thin, you, you, you, you, thin, you, you, you, thrown, you, you, you, thrown, you, you, thrown, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, throw, you, tho, you, thrown, throw, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. th. throw, throw, thrown, thrown, thrown, thrown, thrown, thrown, thrown, to, to, to, thrown, to, thrown, to, thrown, to, to, thrown, to, to, thrown, to, throw, throw, throw, th we are looking to expand and we've, you know, we try to expand over the years as well. And are the kids helping with that then? Is that sort of, you know, they come and do the jobs with you now? Yeah, absolutely. Like my little girl, she absolutely loves the chickens, they're her thing.
Starting point is 00:28:13 I mean, now I can literally go and sort the chickens out mean? What's she got to do? She'll get all the feed. If you said to me, Rob sort the chickens out, I'd Google something and I panic. She'll literally go and get the food for the chicken so she got a yellow bucket outside. She's going to give them two scoops of corn, two scoops of pellets, chuck that in, that's her favorite job. Then she goesthem their food, top up their water, and then basically say, Daddy, I'm done. Amazing. No, I'm still getting my seven-year-old water at the table. Your one's feeding chicken. Get this, Rob, she works in the Abitua as well. Not quite.
Starting point is 00:28:56 Not quite. Probably would if it's out to her. She's definitely the boss that one. She's, she's, she's, she's, she's, she's, she's, she's, she's, she's, she's, she's, she's, she's, she's, she's, she's, she's, th. th. thi. thi. thi, thi, too, too, too, too, too, the the thi, too, too, too, too, tho, tho, tho, tho, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. thi, thi, thi. I. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. too, too, too, too, too. toooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooom. too, tha, tha, th's like to her. She's definitely the boss that one. She's in charge. She's gonna manage some people, yeah, when she gets older. And so are you on the farm feeding some chickens when you're taking calls about the JLS tour and stuff? You're like, yeah, I will go on tour, but first, you know, I've just got a was 2019 yeah we did like a little sort of skit where each of us sort of took a call from each other and then was like you know basically said yeah we should do this and it was obviously all building the anticipation and so on and I was on the farm so I did my bit on the farm you know yeah and for me obviously they are two very different industries you know they're the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th their th I I I their th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the the th. thi. thi. thi. thi. th. th. th. th. their their their their th. th. th. their their their their their their their their their th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. to the. to to the. to to. too. too. to th. th. the. the. the the. th. th. th, they are two very different industries, but actually there's lots of similarities,
Starting point is 00:29:45 you know, they're both very, very tough industries, you know, there's lots of work involved with both. You know, for me, the difference is when I'm... A little horse shit in both, right? You know, those are the best therapeutic to be very honest with you. I just high-fired myself I just high fired myself thirty. I'm their their their th, I'm th, I'm thi, I'm thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thirty, thirty, thirty, thirty, thirty, thirty, thirty, thirty, thirty, thi, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thirty, thooo-a. thooooo-s, thoooooooo-s, tough, their works works, thoo-a, thooo-a, tho-a, know, one thing I love about being on the farm is that I'm based around home, you know, as much work as you have during a day or whatever. You're done sort of by five o'clock, six o'clock when it gets dark or starting to get darken your back home with the family. Obviously, I love, you know, doing that and touring and being away with their, you know, it can be tough, especially if you're away for a long periods of time and, you know, with the kids you're missing on their, you know, school stuff and football stuff and this and that. But they're both lifestyles that I've grown up with and they're both things that I enjoy
Starting point is 00:30:32 and they both make me me, do you know what I mean? And I wouldn't say that I'm their today. Yeah, to be, to be, their, to be, their, their, to be, their, their, their, to be, their, you, you, you, their, you, you, you, their, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're their, you're, you're their. Yeah, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you's, you's, you's, you's, you's.. And, you's. And, you's. And, you's. And, you's. Yeah, you's. Yeah, you. Yeah, you. Yeah, you. Yeah, you. Yeah, you. Yeah, you. Yeah, you. Yeah, you. Yeah, you. Yeah, you. Yeah, you. Yeah, you. Yeah, their. Yeah, their. Yeah, their. Yeah, their. Yeah, their. Yeah, their. Yeah, their. Yeah, their. Yeah, their. Yeah, their. Yeah, their. Yeah, their. Yeah, their. Yeah, their. Yeah, their arguing what's the setup? Because I didn't realize I'm quite lucky that my two girls play well. But sometimes that's not always the case, is it? I get a bit of both to be honest. They'll wake up one day and they'll be playing brilliantly with each other. They'll help each other out. They'll help each other out. And then you'll have days where, you'll make breakfast, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, th. I, th. I, th. I, th. I, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, tho, tho, thooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooes, thoooo. I, this. We're going to get dressed for the day, all of that sort of stuff. And then you'll have days where, usually on the weekend, with a jumping bed of us before we have to get up for the day.
Starting point is 00:31:11 And they'll be shouting and screaming, like, my daughter, she's the fighter. As I said, like, to fight? And I was like, who did you even get that prompt? But yeah, I mean, they're a typical brother and sister if I can say that, you know, they do get on. They do have a good relationship, but yeah, they're not short of their, their fights. Well, how's your Ace and the Animal Heroes. Yeah and it's out in the 27th of April end of the month you're gonna have to write another one now. Or another series AC Animal Heroes feels like that's a series and we follow Ace with his animals in numerous books your daughter's not gonna be happy about
Starting point is 00:31:58 this issue? Well do you know what obviously this has been an eight year, right? So I started it before Ace was just after 84. She will not give a shit about this, by the way. No, no, wait, wait, so what I did, she will go halfway through that eight-year project, a child was born. And you had another four years. But you're right. So what I had to do, I basically had to create a new character. And this this this this this this this this this this is this is this is this is this is this is this is this is th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. that, thathea. thathea, th. th. I was, th. I was, th. I was, th. I was, th. I was, to, to, to, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. I was, th. I was, th. I was, th. I was, that. I was, that. I was, that. I was, that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that. I was, to create a new character, and this is thanks to my editor Carmen. She said, you know, we want to try and get another character in there? You know, because I literally only had Ace as one of the main kids, was the only kid in
Starting point is 00:32:31 it originally and it's involved over the years as you can imagine. So then I thought, oh, this is the perfect time. So I did. I created a character called beer, which which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which is, which is, which is, which is, which is, which is, which is, which is, which is, which is, which is, which is, which is, which is, which is, which is, which is, which is, which is, which is, which is, which is, which is, which is, which is, which is, which is, which is, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which is, which is, which is, I. And, I. And, I. And, I. And, I. I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I.. And, okay, that worked, yeah. She's had four reins. So even with the illustrations like deciding how she looked, what hair she had, all of that, right. She had full reigns, so she has created her own character. Within the book, even though the book, the series is named after her, even though the book is called Ace. Just saying. I'll see what she says at eight. And yeah, yeah, I'm looking forward to her. The book. What the book. The book. The book. The book. The book. The book. The book. The book. The book. The book. The book. The book. The book the book the book. The book the book the book the book the book the book the book the book the book the book is the book is the book is the book is the book is called the book is the book is called the book is called the book is called the book is called the book is called the book is called the book is called. the book is called. the book is called. the book is called. the book is called. the book. the book is called. the book. the book is called. the book. the book. the book. the book. the book. the book. the book. the book. the book. the book. the book. the book. the book. the book. the book is called. the book is called. the book is called. the book is called. the book is called. the book is called. the book is called. the the the the the book is called. the book is called. the book is called. the book is called. 'll see what she says at 8 and then maybe we can, I'll have a little word and get. Yeah, yeah. I'm looking forward to her, the book being renamed hers for the next one just to keep her happy. Imagine how that would go down in the house. And you drew on a lot of your family life about moving from the city to the farm in the book. Now how honest were you about things that happened in the family life, because that's a problem. If you involve family members, yeah, right, they're not always happy. Was that difficult, putting them in
Starting point is 00:33:27 or they're quite relaxed, your family? Rob says, from bitter experience of doing this podcast. I say to my mom and dad, it's always true. I never put in a lie. But do you know's okay so far. There's no major issues. I have got a niece and nephew who are already on, you know, on the phone saying to me what's going on here. Are they in the book? Not yet. Right, you're going to have to draw the line at the niece and nephews because they'll they'll the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the niece. the niece. the niece. the the the the the the the the the niece the niece their their their their niece and nese and nease. I have thienice and nea. I have thienienienenece and nea. I've thief and nea. I've their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their thienenenenenenenenenenenenenenenenenenenenenenenenees and nea thie. I have. I have. I've thie. I've theee. I've theaseeaseeaseeaseeaseeaseease and nea. I've. I've theaseeaseeaseeaseease and nea. I've. I've thease and nea. I's the problem. How many siblings have you got? I've got one sibling. That's the issue, isn't it?
Starting point is 00:34:06 Because if it's one sibling, it's only the kids they produce that want to be. So I've got four brothers, so if I put all the niece and nephews in, it's too much going on. It's that game of froze. is just a get-out. I love the acknowledgments, Pitt. Oh, I got it. Two books we've done, and it's like the acknowledgments, all the people I forgot about when I was writing the book. Special thanks to the 80-month-old nephew. I couldn't have wrote this book without you. Do you know what, J.B., from my experience,
Starting point is 00:34:38 none of your family are going to read it, they'll lie and pretend they have so they won't even know. The way it works for the book is people go, I love the book and then you mention something from the book and they look blankly at you and you go, you didn't read the book. No. Yeah. Well, to be fair, my wife's, my father-in-law, he's that he's well, he's named, well like he's the kind of person, and my mom as well actually, that will read through the book and they say, oh yeah, so I think you should change that and actually grammatically this is incorrect, so it needs to be as I'm like, mom, I've got an editor for that it's okay.
Starting point is 00:35:14 Oh really, they get involved. They sound like people after my own heart. I love funny is their birthdays are quite similar, so I think they're pretty much the same people just on the other side of the family. But no, do you know what, we obviously the family incredibly supportive and always have been. And obviously they're excited about the book being out as well and, you know, being able to read it and share it with everybody. So, yeah, I was going to say, what do they think of you moving to like a farm and having kids there and stuff like that, away from a bit further away from where all your family are? And they still like Croydon Way. Yeah, yeah, so I'm actually not too far from them. So from close mom and dad, I'm about 40 minutes and then from my side I'm probably about 25 minutes. So it's not bad. Yeah. It's probably probably happy. It's probably probably probably probably probably probably probably probably probably probably probably probably probably probably probably probably probably probably probably. It's probably probably probably. they's probably they's probably they's probably they's probably they's they's probably they's probably they's they's probably they's probably they's the they's probably happy. the the they's they's they's they's they's they's probably they's probably happy. they's they're they're they're they're they're they're they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's the the their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their th their the the th the the the the the the th the the the the they. the their not right on you don't mean on the same right. Yeah, they could still do babysitting but they can't pop him for a cup of tea.
Starting point is 00:36:10 You know what I mean? When they babysit do they have to do the chickens and the turkeys as well? So you know if you go away for a couple of nights and the grandparents are in do they have try not to go away too long with her because she'll do a few days and then she's kind of like, I'm over it now. But no, no, she, no, all jokes aside, she's very, very helpful and well, both sides as well. You know, both, you know, close mom and dad are incredibly helpful as well. And, you know, I think is necessary and healthy and yeah, you know, we always have good support, as I say, locally as well. If you are going away for a couple of nights, maybe it's like anniversary or something like
Starting point is 00:36:51 that and the kids are at home, the grandparents, or their grandparents are at home, their grandparents, grandparents, and their grandparents, their grandparents, and they're going to cover that? Because like, I think that's the issue is if you got grandparents to grab the kids and then they've got that and do the turkeys. I keep it simple. So basically they need to make sure they're fed, make sure they're watered, and make sure they're watered and watering. So no breaks in the fences of things to be fed and watered? Children? Obviously children. Chickens, pigs, turkeys, primarily, cats, dogs, dog. Wow. Right. That's how. We've got two cats and we, Rose worries about going away away with the two cats. We've got Pauline next door is excellent. Her kids love feeding the cats. But Rose is like we can't go away for too long because the cats will miss us. Oh fuck a cat! Cats don't
Starting point is 00:37:48 give a shit! Fuck the cats! She cares about the cats! She cares about the cats to survive on their own! They're all right. Yeah I mean our cats are pretty much feral. Yeah well one of our cats is called Beryl that's close to feral but I don't really give the the their their their their their their their their that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's is that's that's that's that's is that's is that's is that's is that's is that's is that's is that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's to to to to their to to their to t. their t. toes toes toes their toes to toes I don't really give them much affection. And Rose does, and they much prefer her, so they do actually care about Rose. They can give a fuck about me. Right. I can't believe it really. Do you know what?
Starting point is 00:38:14 So my relationship, has to say it, J-B. You hate cats. We rescues. You hate cats. Let's just say it. Just say it. You hate cats. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. And the the, the, the, the, thu thu thu thu thu thu thu thu thu th th th th th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And tha, tha, tha, tha, tha. And tha. And tha. And tha. And they tha. And they they they they they they tha. And they they they they they tha. And tha. And hate cats. Let's just say it. Just say it, Jabee. You hate cats. You hate your cat. Past tense. Hated. Not anymore. All right. Okay. Here he is. The grammar runs in the family. Past tents. This guy's a writer now. Forget the farm. This guy's all over it. Right. Listen, listen, so we rescued two cats. And initially, my intention that there'd be farm cats, right? We had a massive rat problem and I didn't want to do this
Starting point is 00:38:51 and do that and poison and whatever else. And I just, it didn't feel right to me to be very honest with you. And so I was like, no, absolutely not. But it was a massive issue, like biting through bins and eating food and all that sort. And they. And they. And they. And they. And they, they, they, they, they, they, th, th, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. that, thi, that, that, that, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their th. We, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, th right? So I rescued two cats, but they were both feral cats and obviously you need them to hunt and sell on and so forth. Yeah. And so we had them on the farm. And when I say feral, I mean, I couldn't put my hand in the cage to stroke any of them. Getting them all to every day. You want cats that have done plenty of time. Anyway, obviously, them being on a farm,
Starting point is 00:39:25 me feeding them every day, giving them all to every day, seeing them every day, we had ace it by this point and one of them was named Phantom. We called him Phantom because we literally never ever saw him. If I went down there, he would go in the opposite direction. Go on, see you later. I wouldn't see him for the rest of the day. Anyway, anyway. A about about about about about about about about about about about about about about. A the th. A, I. A, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I th, I th, I th, I th, I to, I to, I to, I to to to th, I the the the th, I their, I, I, I their, I, I, I, I their, I their, I their, I their, I their, I their, I their, I their, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I th, I, th, th, th, th. th. th. th. th. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th. thi. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi, their, their, their, nine months, all of a sudden he started getting a bit closer and started coming over. And I was still quite scared to be honest, I put my hands up because in the beginning I couldn't give him food in his crate. Literally couldn't put my hand in there because I was afraid I'd get swiped. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:56 And all of a sudden he's like, you know, cozy up to my leg, to say hi. Bering in mind now, now now now now now now now now now now now we we we we th no now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now we th. Now we've now now now now now now now now now now, now we've the th. Now we've th. Now we've th. Now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now tho, I've to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thin, I the, I the, I'm the. the. thean, thean, thean, thean, thean, to to is there, and Ace has no experience with any sort of animal other than what we've introduced him to. All of us very above board, very, very nice and gentle and brilliant and whatever else. Anyway, so this cat now starts coming up to Ace. So here we're freaking out, thinking, oh no, we're going to have to grab the worst. And I promise you that year of food, water and a little bit of affection changed Phantom from being pretty much wild and feral. Like Ace could call him and he'd come. Really? I could tell him, wow. I'll jump off on the body of his like electric vehicle and he'd jump up on it and they drive around the garden. Amazing. And I would never have believed it if he told me it. So that's why it's past tense. And now. And now. the cats. the cats. the cats. the cats. the cats. the cats. the cats. the cats. the cats. the cats. the cats. the cat cats. the cat cats. the cat cats. the cat cats. the cat cats. the cat cats. the cat cats. the cat. the their their th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I thi thi thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. thi. I thi. thi. thi. thi thi th you told me. So that's why it's past tense. And now I've got to appreciate them.
Starting point is 00:40:47 Yeah, the cats for sure. I'm not going back to university to be your friend. I'm going so I can get Uber one for students. It saves you on Uber and Uber eats. I'm there for zero dollar delivery fee on cheeseburgers. Up to 5% off smoothies and 5% Uber cash back on rides. Just to be clear, I'm there for savings, not whatever you think university is for. Get Uber 1 for students, a membership to save on Uber and Uber eats.
Starting point is 00:41:14 With deals this good, everyone wants to be a student. Join for just $4.99 a month. Savings may vary. So, are we going to gloss over that your son drives at the age of eight? That's a hell of a... We live on a farm, what do you expect? Lawless, we can do what they want. All the kids at school who are farmers when I was growing up in Devon, they'd all passed their test within like a week of turning 17 because they'd just been driving the whole teenage years around the farm? Literally. Have you th a th a thia thia thia thia thian thian thian they they thian they thian thee they thee thee thee thee thee thee the the the. the. theat putting behind the wheel of a car. Because you can, can't you? He's not quite tall enough, I don't think, yet.
Starting point is 00:41:48 But I would. I would. He does all the driving and the track to me. Does it sit on my lap obviously, but you do you do the thing I'm like, okay, you think you're going to make that the memories that you create and that are so unique to that lifestyle, do you know what I mean? And it's something that they look back with funness, I find. You know, like you say, anybody that I know who's like grown up with a farm or had any experience like with farming or the outdoors or whatever, it's such an incredible. Yeah, I mean, as I as I say as I say as I say as I say as I say as I say, as I say, as I say, as I say, as I say, as I say, as I say, as I say, as I say, as I say, as I say, as I say, as I say, as I say, as I say, as I say, as I say, as I say, as I say, as I say, as I say, as I say, that, that, it's something, it's something, it's something, it's something, it's something, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it's something. It's something. that, that, that, that, that that that that that that that's something. that's something, that's something, that's something, that's something, that's something, they that's something, that's something. that's something, that's something, that's something, that's something, that's something, that's something, that's something, that's something, that's something, that's something, that's something, I, I, I that, I, I that my kids to be able to hold onto those memories as they get older as well. Do they watch Down on the Farm? They do, yeah. Do they? Of course they do, it's brilliant.
Starting point is 00:42:29 Love it. Yeah, yeah. Have they come and seen you like, you know, doing your other crew at JLS, have they been to the gigs? Yeah, so what was the I've been looking forward to. Don't me? What do they prefer? Down on the farm or your gigs? Oh, don't pretend you care about down on the farm, Rob. You're just interested in JLS. I mean, have they been to the gigs? The first time they went to a concert was our show on the last tour. Oh was it? Which was incredible. And they were fully. That. That. That. That. That. That. That. their. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. they're they're they're they're they're th. their. they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're. Don't. Don't. Don't. Don't. Don't. Don't. Don't. Don't. Don't. Don't. Don't. Don't. Don't. Don't. their. Don't. Don't. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. th. th. th. th. the. the. the. th. the. the the the the the the the the the their. the the. the their. their. their. they were in full involved. They had all the lights and whatever else all the merch. They had you know, well their little hoodies and whatever else and we ended up getting pretty much all the JLS kids together came on stage of us, you know, so you know, those are pretty special moments and
Starting point is 00:43:16 and my daughter in particular she actually loved it like she's a little performer so you know, any tho. And the daughter, you know, a the the the the the the the the the the the the their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their little their little their little their little little little little little their little their little little little little little little little little little little little little, their their their their their their their their their little little little little little, their their their their, their, their little little little little little, their their their their their little little little little little, their their little little little, their little little, their little little, their little, their little, their little, their little, their little, their little little little, their little little little, their little little little, their little little, their little, their little, their little, their little, their little, their, their drive past the O2, it's like, Daddy, when can we go to the O2? I'm like, oh, anytime we want, you know, a bit of five guys or whatever, we can, you know, go hang out and a bit of social football, whatever. She's like, no, no, no, you need to see. I'm like, you know, just walk up to their own too too to their to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to their to their own, their own, their own, their own, their own, their own, their own, to to to to their, you, you, you, you. their. their, you're just, you're just, you're just, you're just, you're just, you're just, you're just, you're just, you're just, you're just, you're their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their, you. their, you. their, you. their. their, you. their. their, you. their, you. their, you. their, you. their, you. their, you're, you're, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, we're going, you know, you're going, you know, you're just, you're just, you're just, you know, as I say, both of them, like they come to work with me sometimes, not all the time, less now, obviously, because they've got their own little agendas and, you know, and schedules and stuff. But yeah, you know, they come to work with me when I'm filming or whatever I'm up to. Obviously, they're on, their on the on the on the on the on, their on, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, to, to, to, to, to, to, to tho, their, to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to their, their, their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their, their their, their, their, their, their their, their, their their their own, their own...... their own own own own own te, te........ toeanoeanlue...., toeanoeanl. toean they do. What was it like having your kids at the gig? You're not like beforehand, like looking after them just about to go on stage at the O2,
Starting point is 00:44:10 are you? Oh yeah. Were they like backstage with you? Yeah, they're backstage. My daughter walks me to stage. Does she? Yeah. Yeah. Were they all right just walking out on stage at the O2? Because I know I'm shitting myself.
Starting point is 00:44:25 She was more. My little boy, actually, funny enough, I mean he's the one who's done most, like he's done acting and modeling and all sorts, but I think, you know, it's still 15,000 people to the O2, isn't it? So I think it was, it was a big deal. Overwhelming. Yeah, he's one one one one one one one one one one one one one's one's one's one's one's one's one's one's one. the oldest. the oldest. the oldest. the oldest. the oldest. the oldest. the oldest. the oldest. the oldest. the oldest. the oldest. the oldest. the oldest. the oldest. the oldest. thoomere's one's one the oldest. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. the one the one the one the one the one the one the one the one the one the one the one the one's the one's the one's the one's the one's thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo. th. th. th. th oldest, so I think there's that added, you know, sort of sense of responsibility. Yeah. Whereas the younger is just sort of tearing around, you know, they don't care if they go and pull down one of the lights, do they? They're just there to have fun. So, uh, I imagine they got cheered though. When I brought my daughter on stage in front of 700 people in Br, mate, she's four, just let me get this joke out and let's move on. Oh dear. So just your son model, you said.
Starting point is 00:45:07 Yeah, well, to be fair, they've both done a few bits and pieces, but yeah, my little boy, well, he started about 18 months, two years. Did he? So how do you get into child modeling? To be fair, we've got a friend, brands and obviously a great friend of ours and she just asked him to come and be involved in something that she was doing like a sort of press day. Yeah, that was his first job if you want to call it that. But then yes and then he's worked with you know a couple of sort of agencies and my wife Clow obviously was a professional dancer so she's got you know lots of links to agents and stuff like that and yeah over the years he's been involved in the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the th. thi thi the thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi. So thi. thi thi thi. So thi's thi. So thi. So thi. So thi. So thi thi thi thi thi. So thi. So thi. So thi. thi. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. So th. So the the the the the the the the the the the the the thi. So thi. So, thi. So, thi. So, thi. So, thi. So, to thi. So, thi. So, thi. So, thi's thi's thi's thi's th did Granch's stuff. Oh wow. They both did something actually together in the
Starting point is 00:45:47 lockdown drama called Chloe but yeah so they both did that and yeah you know he does stuff from Martin Spences as well yeah yeah he does loads to be amazing do you get obviously because they get paid like pretty well sometimes those kind of things does that go in a little like savings account for when he's older yeah yeah yeah so for you you you you you you you do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they kind of things. Does that go in a little like savings account for him for when he's older? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So for both of them. Or do you just stick it on like the holiday this year and go come on? No, no. So you want to. You want a holiday you got a pay for it for him. We do a little thing for yourself, where by the things, whey's that. You know, and if he's sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort all, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, to. to. the. to. the. the. to. to. the. to. to. to. the. to. to. to. to. to. the. to. to. the. the. the. the., whatever it is. Yeah. And usually we do that around New Year when we do all the sales and stuff coming so you can buy one thing for yourself because you know you've worked really hard this year.
Starting point is 00:46:30 And that's something that I, you know, I grew up doing and both my wife as well and you know, you work hard and then you can treat yourself, you know, and obviously it's important to teach him about money and stuff, but it's also like it's funny because he goes from Christmas saying I want a PS 5 I want to this I want to that to all of a sudden is like okay Well you can get that if you want with your own money and it's like oh no actually Yeah, maybe I'll get a water bottle yeah, so no, you know, he loves it and you know obviously we just kind of support him as he's going through it. He does lots of football as well, so you know, he's a busy old boy, but um... How do kids pay tax? For 18 month you've done a model in shoe? Obviously they get in their allowance, don't they? I don't know what it is if you, I don't know, just say you were like, I don't know, decoanning or someone the the the it work? Yeah, Radcliffe must have had a fucking massive tax bill after Harry Blan.
Starting point is 00:47:29 You know what I mean? Has he got a limited company at the age of 12? I have no idea. I don't know how it works, but I think they can be taxed. Yeah, I need going to be googling that in a panic. Literally. When he goes on set, are you, how does it work? Do you one of you accompany him on set or does it? Because they're not allowed to like work long hours and stuff, are they kids? There's like rules around that. My wife is a guru with that.
Starting point is 00:48:02 She handles all of that. That's her domain. I've done a few few few pieces always gone together, but usually she'll sort of manage that. And so what you can do is you can be a licensed chaperone. So you can go as a parent, but officially be sort of, you know, keep their hours and log all their data and stuff. And there are strict hours. So, we did th, like, like, like, like, like, th, th, to, to, to, th, to, th, th, th, th, th, thi, to, they to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, tho, tho, tho, to to, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, so, so, tho, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, to, so, to, to, th.................. So, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to to to tho a family called Cooking with the Gills and literally all four of us were you know involved in it and my daughter at the time was only three so it was a bit tough with her just making sure she had the right hours and stuff like that and of course they wanted both kids to be
Starting point is 00:48:33 involved in it and she could only do like three hours or two hours or. So basically they had to like literally half an hour cooking right their off da da da da and she can only be on a set for a number of hours. Age wasn't too bad and he's getting to that age now where actually I think his hours can extend and he's not quite on the same as as an adult but you know it can do a full pay tax by the way J B just say you know they do have to pay tax but they get a tax free allowance tax but they get a tax tax tax tax tax tax tax tax the tax tax tax tax tax tax tax tax tax tax the tax the tax they get a tax they get a tax they get a tax a tax a tax a tax a tax they get a tax they get a tax a tax they get a tax a tax they get a tax they get a tax they get a tax their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their they get a they get a they get a they get a they get a they get a they get a they get a they get a their their their tax free tax free tax free tax free tax free tax free tax free tax free tax free tax tax tax tax tax tax tax tax tax tax thx the to 12 grand, something like 12,570. So if they earn more over that, so Radcliffe would have to pay tax on his Harry Potter dollar, I'm sure he got paid more on that. But you don't have to pay national insurance until you're 16. Okay. Good to that. So this podcast is boring sometimes. We can't out the fact it's boring. Well I learned something just then and I appreciate that. That's what yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:28 Yeah, I didn't want J.B. to be brought down by a tax man from coming on a bockard. Yeah, Rob, Google whether J.B. will be the one that goes to prison. That's the question. I can't imagine. Imagine young offenders what you in for., a bit of white collar stuff. I'm sure the tax office understands it's a grey area of children earning money, so I'm sure they're very understanding. Prison for geniuses. Um, on down on the farm.
Starting point is 00:49:58 He loves it. There's other kids, you have kids on that, right? Yes. What's that when I like working with them? They're annoying. For the most part. Let's, let, let, let, let, let, let, let, let, let, let, let, let, let, let, let, let, let, let, let, let, let, let, let, let, let, let, let, let's the most the most, the most, the most, the most, the most the most, the the the their their their their their their their their their their their, their, their their, their their their their, their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their, their, their, their, their their, their th, th, th, th, th. It's th. It's thinks, tha, tha, ta, ta.s, ta.s, ta.s, ta.s, ta.s, tha.s, their their their the I'm working with them? Are they ever annoying? For the most part. For the most part, let's not talk about the most part then. Which one's annoying? No, no, no, no, they're not annoying. They're like cats. After a while you get used to. No one's annoying. It's just obviously you can imagine. The attention span of a child is of them for an adult. And with filming, as I'm sure you guys will appreciate and understand, when you've got four cameras on something, it's great and you can do it once and it's done. Everything's in the bag. When you got to do it three, four, five times, you only have one camera, it's a bit of a different story. And bless these kids, sometimes they just have enough.
Starting point is 00:50:39 They don't want to do it for time. Yeah, they want to do it.. to do it. to do it. to do it. to do it. to do it. to do it. their. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. th. th. that. th. th. th. tho. tho. tho. that, that, tho. tho o' tho o' tho o' tho o' tho o' tho o' tho o' tho o' tho o' tho o' tho o' tho o' tho o' tho o' tho o' their their their their their their their their th. And, th. And, that, that, that, that, that, that, that. And, that. And, that. And, that. And, that. And, that. And, that. And, that. And, that. And, but I just said that and then you ask them, then what's your favorite fruit? And they say cherries because it's about cherries that day. And then you say the fourth time, what's your favorite fruit? Strawberries and you're just like, no, no, no, no, you need to say cherry. Oh, it's like, oh, it's like. That's. That's. That's. Oh, I I I. Oh, I. Oh, I. Oh, I. Oh, I. Oh, I. Oh, I. Oh, I. Oh, I. Oh, I. Oh, I. Oh, I. Oh, I. Oh, I. Oh, I. Oh, I. Oh, I. Oh, I. Oh, I. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh, I. Oh, oh, I. Oh, like. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh, that. That. That. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. Oh. That's. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. pineapple. And that's when you just like, you need to have it on the first one. I think kids express what adults feel but say out loud. Yeah. Because when you're probably something on, I don't really want to say cherries again, but you do it because you're a profession you're at work. But a kid goes, I don't want to do this.
Starting point is 00:51:20 This is boring now. Literally. And to be fair, I their to be fair fair fair fair their their their to be fair their their to be fair their their their their thi. I thi. I thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. to be thi. to be thi. thi. I thi. thi. I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, to to to to to to to to to to th. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. I, thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. th. th. th. th. th. to th. to th. th. to to to toe. to. to. I, to. to. I to. to. to. to. to. to th. th. th. Literally. And to be fair, I mean, there's some incredible kids that have been involved in a show like I had one little boy went to his family's farm, so it wasn't, it's his uncle I think or his aunt and he was always there. And he, you know, we were doing this thing and it was in the heat of summer and I wasn't thinking straight. So I kept fluffing all my lines, all my stuff stuff stuff stuff stuff stuff stuff stuff stuff stuff stuff stuff stuff stuff stuff, th and th and th and stuff, th and stuff, th and stuff, th and stuff, th and stuff, th and stuff, th and stuff, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thus, thus, it's thi, it's thi, it's thi, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi's thi's thi's thi's thiiiiiiiiii's thiiii's thi's thi fourth time that I did it, he just went, oh my days, it's da da da da da da da da, da, da, can you just get it right? Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. I'm done. You do my job. You might as I get paid to big bucks and we'll call it a damn. Brilliant. But then you reported into the HMRC about his tax, so you want that one.
Starting point is 00:52:07 It's stuff like that, you know, that sticks with you in. And you know, they say don't work with animals and children. I love working with both. Yeah, you've to hit the double, wouldn't you? Animals and Children. Because I did a filming with my dog. Yeah, it's not the dog, the cameraman at one point. The director said, yeah, Rob, can you reposition Fred? He's just in the back of his head.
Starting point is 00:52:27 I went, no, it's a dog. It will move. He will sand and see it however he wants. That's exactly it. Do you ever hang out with the other CBB's or CBBC presenters? Sometimes? Do you ever see them? I don't see them. I don't see. I don't see them. I don't see the. I don't see the. I don't see the the the the the the the the the the the the th. I don't see th. I don't see th. I don't see th. I don't see. I don't see. I don't see. I don't see. I don't see their. I don't. I don't. I don't. I don't. I don't. I don't. I'll. I'll. I'll. I'll. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It's. It. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. t. t t th. th. th. th. met them all. I've been to the, um, the Panto, CBB's Panto. Oh yeah. Yes.
Starting point is 00:52:49 They've seen them there. And we went to, um, we did like the CBB's the Big Day out. You know the big days out. Or at Aulton Towers, they got like a C.Beebys land or Cibi's World. Yeah, they have, yeah, I'm going there soon. It's brilliant. Is it good? Yeah, yeah, nice. For like, well, Chiara, she'd love it. She's just perfect for their age, sort of three, four.
Starting point is 00:53:13 And then, yeah, so was there and you know, it's a lot of the presenters and stuff and it was good fun. Oh, that's nice. The book, just another plug for the book, is out 27th of April. Yeah, Ace. I love the way she just did. And the animal. Just for people that, well-watch.
Starting point is 00:53:35 Obviously, I'm watching you're in a lift. She just kind of, did she fall off the chair? No, my kids are well trained. They know if I'm on a call, they need to be quiet. Just like snuck in. Oh, bless. I think I'm going to the JLS boys or something but she tried to make herself scared. Well, you forget sometimes when it's Easter holidays, when you're when it's east. When you they, when they, when they, when they, when they, when they, when they, th, they's, th, they's, they're, th, th, th, th, th. they're, th. they're, th. thi, they're, they're, they're they're they're they're thi, they're, they're, they're they're, they're, they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're, they're, they're they're, they're, they're they're they're, they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're, they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're th. th. thi, thin, thin, thooooooo, tied. tied. th th tied. th th thin, they're they're not they're not they're not they're the house then and they're all screaming and you're like, I need to do this. My little boy is now when I said to you that he can buy something, you know, once a year he can buy something he's shouting at, football cards! And I'm like, no, every month you buy those. Well, good luck with the book Ace and the Animal Heroes the the tour. And I look forward to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, th. Well, th. Well, th. Well, th. Well, th. Well, th. Well, th. Well, th. Well, th. Well, th. Well, th. Well, th. Well, th. Well, toy. Well, toy. Well, to, to, to, tho, tho, their, their, their, their, their, toge. And, tho, thooooooooooooo, toy. And, the. And, tho, t look forward to the the new series involving your daughter's name. To keep a happy. Yeah, I've got to get to work now. Thanks Rob. Yeah, exactly. Good luck of it, Chies. Cheers. Cheers. Oh, the final question. We didn't ask the final question, Josh. Oh, final question. Final question. Who is the member of JLS, you like the least?, the final question is what one, you're
Starting point is 00:54:45 about asking the final question, Rob, I always mess it up, but here we go. What one thing does your wife do parenting wise that you're like, that is just unbelievable. I couldn't do that myself. And what one thing does she do as a parent that really annoys you, but you haven't brought it up with her, but if she was to listen to this is a good, the the the th..... their, their, th. their, th. th. their, th. I, th. I, to, to, th. I, to, the to, to, thi, to, thi, to, thi, to, to, the their, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to me, to me, to me, to me, to me, to me, to me, to me, to me, to me, to me, to me, to me, to me, to me, to me, to me, to me, to me, the the the the the the the the the the the the the thi. I the thin, the to me, the to me, the to me, to me, toe.a, toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. to me, to me, to me, to she was to listen to this is a good way of her finding out. She's in the room, so she's already listening. The one thing that she does that I couldn't do is manage everything. I don't understand how she gets everything done when she's by herself, because as you can imagine, I travel a lot and she just makes it work and then I come home and she goes to work or does, you know, few meetings or she's out for the day or even overnight. And obviously, you know, I'm hands-on
Starting point is 00:55:31 and I do it and you know, it gets done, but I don't run it like she runs it and I don't, I don't know how she does it. Unbelievably all. And are you talking about parenting one thing that... Yeah, or you can just go about a personality if you want, that's up to you. If you just want to take her down as a human being, that's more, you're more than welcome. That's on you though. I'm definitely not taking her down to the the thing you're talking about. Because he's my wife. You're not looking at the person you're talking about, but this is actually giving an extra layer.
Starting point is 00:56:10 Sits in on podcast records to make sure what you say is correct. One thing that I don't, that really frustrates me is. Oh, that's it. I've got it. So pleased about it. My daughter, she's getting out of it now, but obviously our daughter was, you know, just going through that phase where, you know, an hour or two long journey is a long time. So we still have a potty, still take it with us every now and again, have to use it. And my wife insists. Obviously if it's a number two, yeah, you keep that so you can get to a toilet and dispose appropriately. If it's the number the number the number the, the, the, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, I it's th, I it's thii, I it's thi, I's thi, I's thi, I's thi, I's thi, I's thi, I'm thi, I's, I'm to be to be to be to be to be to be, to be, to be, to be, to be, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, thi, thi, thi. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, thi. And, tho, tho. thoomoomoomorrow, thooooomorrow, tooomorrow, too, too. And, tooomorrow, too. And, toe. And, th th th th to, yeah, you keep that so you can get to a toilet and dispose appropriately. If it's the number one, and we're on the, I don't know, the side of the motorway somewhere
Starting point is 00:56:49 and there's grass and fields and whatever, I'm like, why are you keeping a souvenir of our daughter's week? Empty it. Just chuck it out. Just chuck it out. And then you get it in the card, I'm chucking it about, obviously, as you do, empty and all the stuff, and I'm just like, ah, it's full of a week. Little potty. That's the one thing that definitely is.
Starting point is 00:57:13 Fair and nice. It's a good run. It was worth it. Cheers J. B. J.B. There. There. Oh, well, there we go. That shows our skills, Rob. J.B. there. J.B. Yes, we're harmonizing.
Starting point is 00:57:32 Yeah. Is that harmonizing? J.B from J.S. from J. Oh, I didn't ask know what JLS stands for to end the episode? Go on. What does JLS stand for? Seemless. Smooth that was. Oh, Jack the Lad swing. The worst name in history.
Starting point is 00:57:56 I was not expecting that. That, and I love the JLS, is the shitest that Jack the lad swing. But then it shouldn't it be J TLS Oh wow they're originally called UFO Do you know do you want to know what that stand for? No, they originally called UFO which stood for unique famous outrageous Oh That is very midnaught isn't it? Yeah, they actually I remember they turned up as a band already didn't they? They must be one of the most successful people on X Factor, mustn't they?
Starting point is 00:58:27 Yeah, but they weren't put together. They turned up in like little pastel t-shirts, didn't they? Yeah, they are. They didn't win. They didn't win. They lost. Berkey? Berkey. Anyway, Josh, I'll see you on Tuesday. See you on Tuesday. See you then. Bye. Bye.

There aren't comments yet for this episode. Click on any sentence in the transcript to leave a comment.