Parenting Hell with Rob Beckett and Josh Widdicombe - S6 EP35: Mike Bubbins

Episode Date: May 9, 2023

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Hello, I'm Rob Beckett. Hello, I'm Josh Winnockham. Welcome to Parenting Hell, the show in which Josh and I discuss what it's really like to be a parent, which I would say can be a little tricky. So, to make ourselves and hopefully you feel better about the trials and tribulations of modern-day parenting, each week we're chatting to a famous parent about how they're coping. Or hopefully how they're not coping. And we'll also be hearing from you the listener with your tips, advice, and of course, tales of parenting woe. Because let's be honest, there are plenty of times when none of us know what we're doing.

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It was quite a hammer blow to us. But she wanted to do all of them. Most people have to convince the kids to go in for more. Yeah, no, I know. No, I don't fancy it here, actually. Not saying she's nerd, but she took up the option of four more days of school voluntarily. Well it's not school that it's fun more fun isn't it? Yeah, well she liked all the things because they were making things.

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yeah to be useful to other parents. Right, okay, let's do that. Oh, I'll help you do that, kind of thing. Yeah. What goes in an East London party bag? Hemp? Some sage to burn? Well, you do get some pretty trendy party bags going. Yeah, often seeds. Sustainable shit. Yeah, often seeds, I'd say. Often seeds, the shitest of all the party's, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, so to, soa, soa, soa, soa, soa, somea, soa, soa, soa, soa, soa, soa, soa, soa, soa, so, so, so, so, soa, so, so, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to to to to ta, to ta. ta. tooa. toa, toa, toa, toa, toa, toa, toa, toa, toa, soa, soa, soa,? Yeah, it's hard work. I love a seed. No, you come

back from a party, the last thing I need to be doing is in the garden getting some soil to pot a seed that's going to be over watered, spill and just be a shit plant. It'll never grow. Basically mud water on the table for the next week and then in the bin. Josh, why were you late that? That's, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, the thi, thi, thi, the thi, the the the thi, the the thi, the the the thin, the the the thin, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the garden, is, is, is, is, is, is, is the the the the the the the the the the the the the the thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, the last thin, the the the the thin, is in the though? That's it. I'm not got a problem with it, but you said it was something went wrong. Yeah, so got in the car. Yeah. I didn't even get in the car. Got to the car. Yeah, for the nursery run. For the nursery run.

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their to the petrol station. Yeah. After drop off, it's always stressful with a baby in the car, right? Yeah. You can't really leave them. No, so there we go. You always see that stress parent with like a baby on their hip and a toddler up their side when they're trying to pay for petrol and you think.. they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're from wherever they're going. Yeah. So you have to get petrol and the bird shit and the car windscreen. But you're in here now? Was it anything else or?

No, that was the reason. Because I'd say, Josh, I was worried something bad to happen. Can I play your voice note of what happened here? Yeah. Here we go. Guys, I'm having an absolute effing disaster. I'd argue that wasn't a disaster. No, I know. I'd say you needed petrol.

I think I'm being melodramatic. Yeah, I'd say you just needed some petrol and there was a bird pill in your car. But absolute disaster, I thought you'd crashed. Not a bad one, but I thought you'd like hunt into someone, act to exchange, it's like a couple hundred quids worth, but you have to go for insurance, exchange details. Yeah, no. Then you said this. Feel free to use that message. The good news is I've got an anecdote.

The bad news is my life's out of control. I think my life's out of control. I've got no petrol out of it. I don't think your life's out of control Josh. I think yeah I think you're definitely right on the anecdote. But I do think maybe you're too busy to do with a little normal life admin jobs and then when they mount up nothing works does it? No. That's the issue. Right well. Well we'll bring on a th. I I th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. th. th. th. the the th. the the the their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their life. I their. I their. I. I. I. I. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.. Yeah.. Yeah............................................................ the. the.. the. the's the issue. There we go. Right, well. Should bring on our guest. A man with an anecdote. Oh, this guy. More than one anecdote, this guy. Fucking hell, I love Mike Bobbins.

In it, we agree like a body transformation sort of deal, don't we, don't we? which is something to look forward to. see him. Hello Mike Robbins. Hi Josh, how are you mate? Hello, I'm Rob's here as well. Hey Rob, how are you, pal? Hello, Mike. Thanks for doing this. We're very excited. They're my pleasure. You know, nothing else to do. Oh, I'm sorry about that. Well, I'm waiting for a town planner to come around. Oh, yeah. That's my day. A town planner. I'm not going to plan a town. I've to plan a to plan a plan a plan a plan a to plan a to plan a to plan a to plan a to plan a to plan plan plan plan to plan to plan to plan to plan to plan to plan to plan to plan to plan to plan to plan to plan to plan to plan tho tho tho tho to to to plan tho tho to to to do to do tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho to do to do to do to do to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to tho tho tho tho tho tho tho to to to the to do the to do to too. the too. the toooo. the tooooo. the tooo. the too. too too tho to to not going to plan a town. What plans have you got? I want to build my own new town, Bebben's New Town in the South Wales area. You'll be the Welsh Milton Kings, I cannot wait. That's pure roundabouts everywhere. Yeah, yeah. What's the town planner coming around for?

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You know people that they have a hold over you. Oh yeah, yeah. If they can say yes or no to your plans. I can never get it right. I always feel like I'll go. I can't try it. Yeah. Hello, mate.

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There's no way that anyone's going the problem with Mike Bovins, he's got no time for the past. Well, we should explain your vibe to sort of new listeners Mike, because you know, you're good powers of Alice James who's been on the pod a few times. You're obviously a parent, which is why you're here. the stand-up comedian, but also you're very 70s aren't you in your look and your style. I do like that era Rob, yeah. I like the cars and the tell you and the clothes. So what are you wearing today Mike? We can see you but it's a... I'm just wearing a sort of one of my typical type of shirts. This was probably a little more dressed down on the normal. Yeah, wearing a mustache. Yeah. Yeah, I'm wearing. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. Yeah, I like. Yeah, I like. Yeah, I like. Yeah, I like. Yeah, I like. Yeah, I like. Yeah, I like. Yeah, I like. Yeah. Yeah, I like. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I. I the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. I th. I'm the the th. I'm the the th. I the the the the the the the the t. I t. t. today. tod Smoking the Bandit and a 70s table

there. So I would argue for the listener to picture it on a normal day for you you could be mistaken as someone head into butlins for a 70s weekender. Yeah or like you know like Ron Jeremy who's got lost on the way to set. Yes, yeah I think he's got lost and gone to prison recently on a current earth. Yeah well it's been disgraced. It's. I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I that that th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. I the th. I've th. I've the th. I'd th. I'd th. I'd th. I'd th. I'd th. I'd th. I'd th. I'd th. I'd th. I'd. I'd. I'd. I'd. I'd. I'd. I'd. I'd. I'd. I'd th. I'd th. I'd th. I'd th. I'd th. I'd th. I'd th. I'd th. I'd th. I'd th. I'm the. I'm that. I'm that. I'm theat. I'd th. I'd theat. I'd th. I'd th. I'd recently on current... Yeah, well it's been disgraced. I mean, that was bad enough being compared to him before. You know that porn star you look like? Now it's got worse for you, I'm afraid. Yeah, yeah, it's good news of bad news. We should probably talk about your kids at some point.

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him to a minimum, but I mean there's only so much I can do. Yeah, of course. My face is my face, my clothes and my clothes and my clothes. What I'd say though is your personality-wise, very sort of gregarious, chaty and you know, obviously, you are, you are, you are, you are, you are, you are, you are, you are, you are, you are, you are, you are, you are, you are, you are, you are artistic, you are artistic, you are artistic, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you know, you know, you're, you're, you're, you're, you, you, you, you, you're, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you put you down as sort of quite a normal Welsh bloke do you I mean? Yeah I think so yeah I think like you can chat to anyone it's not like you sort of gaff on weird flights of fancy when you're talking about stuff you know no you like a drink you like the rugby sport that's quite a Welsh dad suing me sue me. Soo me. It is. You know, Ellis and Steph, I did the other pod with, are amazed that I spend, when I finish gigs, I tend to spend an hour or two having a drink with everybody after the gig. Really?

And on a few of these tour gigs, I've gone to the pub with the Punters as well afterwards and just had a game pool and a few pints. It's lovely, yeah, throwni's great, th. Great, th. Great, th. Great, th. Great, th. Great, thi, thi, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I'm thi, I'm thi, I'm the their. I'm thi, I, I'm their I'd to to I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I I I I I I I I I I I I I, I I I I I I I I I I, I, I, I I, I, I I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I'd thi. I'd tend, I tend. I tend. I tend. I tend. tend. tend. tend. tend. tend. tend, I tend, I tend, I tend, I to the 02. I'd have a bloody good go with them. We need a big punt table. But you've got like a 200 or 300 seat a theatre, nice, perfect size to go on on the razzle with the punter, isn't it? Back to school signals a fresh start for students. New classmates, new teachers, new lessons. Change is in the air. thi. to changed. The Ford government still isn't investing in public schools. Six years of cuts mean our students aren't getting the supports they need. They can't wait another year.

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I am. I have been since they were under sevens and they're under 13s now, yeah. And what's that like as a job? What are the other parents like? The parents are very nice. It's a nice club. The other thing that you might not be apparent from Instagram. Right. So my son's in Welsh language, I don't speak Welsh, I'm a Welsh learner. So I do try to coach them in Welsh and English, which is interesting. Oh wow. Yeah. I'll say what's one of the most common things you say, I played football growing up

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in training more than I pick up other kids and I will say stuff to him during a game that I want to say to other dad. Yeah, I mean, because that's the issue, isn't it, for the good of the team? Oh yeah. But if he used a good player, then that takes that pressure off you. If it was crap, I wouldn't coach him because I couldn't face it. So when did you realize he wasn't crap? When he was crap? When he was a tooke. they. the city. the city. to the city. the city. the city. the city. to the city. the city. to the city. the city. the city. to too. the city. the city. the city. the city. the city. the city. the the th. the the he he the the the the he he a he a he a he a he a he a he a he a the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. He was. He was. He was. He was tie. tie. tie. tie. tie. tie. tie. tie. tie. tie. toda. today. today.. That was fine then. They went to Dublin on a tour. It was great. I went over with them. I went over them. That was his first trip away from Wales really. It was a rugby tour. tour. Oh wow. Two nights in Dublin with a family. He's never had a sleep. their mate house before. Oh really. And then he's getting. I I I I I the rugby. I I I I the rugby. I. I. I. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. their. their. I's. their. I's. I's. I's. their. I's. I'm. their. their. tha. tri. tha. tri. I was. tri. tri. tri. tri. tri. tri. tri. tri. trip. trip. trip. trip. trip. trip. trip. trip. trip. trip. trip. trip. trip. trip. trip. trip. trip. trip. trip. trip. trip. trip. trip. trip. trip. trip. trip. trip. trip. trip. trip. trip. tou. tou. tou. tou. tou. tou. trip. tou. trip. trip. trip. trip. trip. It's good though sport. It does help them like, you know, we've working in a team, experience new stuff and things like that. Well, I'm an XP teacher, so I'm always going to be a bit biased, but I mean, I do think it is the best thing for kids.

That isn't going to be team. But you've got to do and get his head down there's no reason why he can't do it. He's got the talent there and he's got the physical attributes of all co as well. You know puberty is a big deal in rugby there. That really is a difference maker at that age under 13 to 115. There's some players big hairy nuts plowing through other teams with no skill whatsoever. I've always the there there there there there there there there there there there there there there there there there there there there there there there there there there there there the there there there there there there there there there there there there there there the the they. It's their they. It's they. It's they. It's their their their their their their their their their their their their. There's. There's their. There's. There's. There's they. There's. There's they. There's they. There's is. There's is. There's is they. There's they. There's they. I they. I they. I'll they. I'll the. I'll the. I'll the. I'll thea. I'll tea. I'll tea. I'll tea. I'll thea. I'll thea. I'll thea. I'll thea Well I've always worked on him with it with the passing and the kicking because there's nothing worse than that mate when you see it. Yeah. You know and some parents love that and they go, you know, it will drive me mad I think.

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whereas Welsh footballs got those poncy twats like Ellis James. That's where the bronzy-awful, those glory hunters. We don't even have the good thing to live in Wales. Proper plastic Welsh people live in London for their extra dollar. You know what I mean? Yeah. I think that's why Ellis James goes over the top of all the Welsh language stuff, just because he knows he's lived in Wales. Yeah, of course yes. What does that make him? I'm making less money here because I love my country. Good for you, Mike.

Thanks, mate. But you do get the parents and the coaches who give you a really hard time. My problem is I've always had a fairly short fuse. Right. I mean, I referee the first half of a game last week. I got so fractious that I that I'd I'd I'd I'd I'd I'd I'd I'd I'd I'd I'd I'd I'd the the of a game last week and he got so fractious that I just said I'm not doing the second that's fine you can referee it I don't need this but like I gave someone else the whistle yeah yeah yeah because I have the coach and the players on the pitch swear enemy and an under 13 rugby game was what was your team played as well is it yeah my boys team was a player and we would just happen to be a lot better they were but rather rather they were they were rather rather rather rather rather rather rather rather rather rather rather rather rather rather rather they were they were they were they were they were they were they were they were they were they were they were they were they were they were they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they're they they they're they're they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they're they're they're their I I I I their I their I their I'll their I'll their their their their their their their they're their they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they in the first time because we're not as good. They think this must be the referees fault because we can't possibly be that bad. And are you sending

them off and stuff? Well I send a kid off right towards the end. I said if you swear at me again so we've got someone to say to him you talk to me you can't have a. try to me again he can't send him off. So how old's this kid this kid? this kid th. So th. So the kid. So th. So th. So th. So th. So the kid. So th. So th. So th. So th. So th. So th. So th. So th. So th. So th. So th. So, th. So, th. So, the kid. So, th. So, th. So, the the th. So, the kid. So, the kid. So, the kid. So. So. So. So. So, the kid. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So, the kid. So. So. So, the kid. So, the kid. So, the kid. So, the kid. So, the the the the the t. So, t. So, tha. So, tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. So, tha. So, rowing. So I sent him off. You can't do that. Yeah. That's so bad, and it. I gave a scrum against them. And he said that to me, so it's off you go. I've told you, come on. Yeah. And I said, there's a penalty now, not a scrum for that. You're off. Yeah. So their coach then said, call that, call that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's so that's so that's that's that's that's so bad. that's so bad. that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. the their. th. thrown. thoooomorrow. th. th. th. the. the. the. that's so that's so bad said, you're not the referee. So we took his team off, our team will leave in and I said, where are you going? I said, come back, we haven't blown the whistle yet. It's been a mutiny. I said, tap the ball, and go and score a try and the post. I mean, they won't, you know. Oh, wow. Oh, that's amazing. And does your daughter play rugby as well?

She had a go with it, she tried for a bit. She's sort of mastered the sort of defensive sidestep, but it's not really her thing. She tried football, tried rugby, they're a try to thrug-a. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thin are a bit daft again it is pointless well imagine if she's on the sidelines and she's watching her dad and brother not play rugby because they're arguing and being sworn out in the rain yeah you sort of think this is what I want to be doing it's not me you know give me back on doing the frozen soundtrack yeah that sort of stuff she never saw that and your son obviously is growing up now and getting a bit older, getting bigger, and

the next few years he's sort of going to develop into a man. Yeah. How's that going to feel for you if he's bigger than you and stronger than you? Well he will be like a rutting stag now, he's 13. He's going to be over 6, 4, 4, 6 5, 5, when he finishes. Oh, the thr-4, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, th, th, th, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thr. thr. tho. tho. tho. th. tho. th. th. th. th. th. th. th.the matrix? Oh yeah, from a young thing shift. So go on, but you'll be measuring him up on like the percentile child because they always tell you. Yeah, yeah, look at the percentile charts, see where he's going to be. And size is a good indicator of athletic pro-s so it's their foot. So you know they'll bring you better at athletics and sports? Yeah, hands and feet are really good indicate this usually.

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on a scooter quite easily and stuff but yeah I think you can see from it early age of like they're balance and like it's just if you can naturally just to tel-I tell tell tell tell tell tell tell tell tell tell tell tell tell tell tell tell tell tell tell tell tell tell tell tell tell tell tell tell tell tell tell tell tell tell tell tell tell tell tell tell tell. to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their tell. tell. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. I. their. their. I. their. their. took to go on on a scooter quite easily and stuff but yeah I think you can see from an early age of like their balance and like it's just if you can naturally just get on with it at a younger age. Well my daughter loves that stuff she picked up ice skating straight away and roller skating she skates you know she's you know she's the toys s'lips you know she's just not sporty just like to do her own as an Elvis fan, the world's biggest Elvis. Very touchy, very touchy. Is it?

Because they're aware that he's actually hugely overrated as Joshua. They were weaned on Elvis. And then of their own volition, they've strayed away from the path of righteousness. They don't really, it's heartbreaking. I got videos of the kids when they were little. I was. I was. I was sort of Elvis song to get them singing, join him with a dancing, give him a microphone. Because you're an Elvis impersonator before you're a comedian, just for people that don't know. We prefer the phrase Elvis tributar. Oh sorry, sorry. Oh, sorace. Oh, some. Sorry, sorry.

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Oh, so did your mom pass away when they were younger then? No, she lives down the road. They just don't see it really. Just don't tell. Yeah, because she loves Arvue. Yeah, because she loves. Yeah, because she loves to be a while about how much they remembered my mother. And I thought one day this is not.

You're thinking this. Start saying stuff from Mary Poppins. Yeah. The umbrella she used to arrive on. She wasn't in the Jamaican bobslea team. What's theymeat. You know, she the film she's she's they's they's thi they's they's they's thi they's thi thi thi they're thi, she's thi, she's thi, she's thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thoomoomo, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi. thi, thi. thi, thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo. And, and I than, so the Elvis thing is weird, isn't it? I'm thinking they might come back round to you? Well, the film's great, so I think that will get new people into it. A film is fantastic, in it, so good. I saw three times in the cinema in a week. I haven't done that before. I'd love the bloke selling the tickets, seeing you tu no problem, in you go. Well, with the mustache, I don't get that anymore, but I should get that, because I had the sideburns and the head. Yeah, because I met you years ago at a gig, and I think you were still in sort of very Elvis-s-sit-mo-mo.

I don't think you had the mouse, I don't think you're doing, like, Elvis, like, Elvis, like, Elvis, Elvis, Elvis, like the full white suit like but just enough to go what is he I don't know what's happening there I don't know what he's gonna do when it gets on stage maybe you're doing like a breakfast radio show interview but you're not doing a full performance yeah yeah he's got a jazzy shirt on but short so that's a lot of it's not Elvis but not to the thin the things that I know it to do you do you do you you you you you you you you you you you do you do you do you do you do you do you do you do you th you th you th you th you th you think do th you think do think do th you think do th you th you th you th you th you th you th you th you thin thin thi th you th you th you th you th you th you th you th you th you th you th you th you th you th you th you th you th you th you th you th you th you th you th you th you th you th you th you th you th you th you th you th you th you th you th you th you th you thin thin thin thin thin thin thin thin thin thin thin thin thin thin thin thin thin thin thin thin thin thin thin thin thin thin thin thin th do thin th do th do th you th you th you. Do you know what I mean? It's that. It might well be that. Yeah. I think it's a bit of that rebellion going on, especially my son, who I'm not, apart from the rugby, not liking the things that I like. What does he like? Well he loves, he's told me he's gonna start playing football again next year. So there's no. He'd be a goalkeeper. I think he'd be in a good center off I th. How th. How th. How th. How th. How th. How th. How th. How th. How the the th. How th. How th. How their th. How th. How th. their th. th. th. their th. th. th. thin thi thin' thin' th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the th. the thi thi thi thi thi. thi. th. th. What th. What th. What th. What th. What th. What th. What th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. What th. th. th. the. He's the. He's the. He's the. He's the. He's the. He's the. He's the. He's thi. He's thi. He's thi. He's thiably richer if he did the football. I'd be loving it. What about if he became a professional rugby player but due to, you know, a relative, he represented England? Now, do you know what? This would depend entirely on whether he'd been offered to play for Wales first. So I remember when I was playing sort of national level rugby as a youngster

at 18. So I was in the Welsh school squad at that age and me saying to my mother, because my dad was born in Sussex, right, but he's Welsh, but born in Welsh, but born in Welsh, Mike? You're like, you're not really, I mean, I mean, I'm not really, I mean, I'm not really, that was England, that was the thing, so I remember saying not my mother. Yeah. And where was She ball? She's from the Welsh Values from Merth of Ail. The staunch Welsh supporter for the rugby. And I said, man, what if I knew the Welsh supported for the rugby. And I said, well, if I knew the Wales had overlooked me and England and England wanted to give me a to play for England, I said, but you know what if I'd play for England wouldn't I? She said well well I wouldn't support you. I said what do you mean it's well if Wales played England I want Wales to win wouldn't I? I said well if I was playing for England you'd want Wales to win. She wouldn't yeah so I'm wanting to have a decent game but I want you to get

beaten I said oh fair enough you know so I think I mean the same sort of thing. I don't know thinnene I though though though tho tho tho I tho I tho I tho I the English tho I the English tho I mean that tho I mean that that the English that that that that that the English that the English that the English the English the English the English tho tho that that the English I tho tho tho to to to the English to to to to the to to to to to to to to to the to to to to the the the to the the the the the the the to the the the the the th tho I tho I tho I tho I to tho I tho I tho I to tho I to tho to tho tho tho tho tho tho thou thou the tho the tho the thou the tho to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to set up quite well for the rugby and stuff but I just like in playing in Wales. Like for the reasons that we mentioned earlier, and I'm not being a snob about it, I just think it's all about sort of clubs and working class over here. But if football, I can imagine if he gets, if he loves football, if he doesn't play sport, any sport, I don't care, as long as he's happy. How about this Mike? He plays, he plays, he plays, he plays, he plays, he plays, he plays, he plays, he plays, he plays, he plays, he plays, he plays, th. He plays, th. He plays, th. He plays, th. He plays, th. He plays, th. He plays, th. He plays, th. He's, th. He's, th. He's, the the the the the the the the the the the the the their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their. I, their. I, their. I, their. I, their, their. I, their. I's, their, their, their. I's, their. I's, th. I's th. I's th th th th th th th th th th th thinks, thinks, their. I's the the the the their. I's their. I's if you said, you know, his name, people who go, never heard of him, but he's in a Premier League team, earning really good money, living in Bulmuff, plays sort of 10, 15 games a season. Best of both of them, isn't it? 60 grand a week and no one knows who he is. Yeah, exactly.

So nobody knows he is and he's on probably say five million as much, but is a start of a Wales. Oh Rob. And he's on, I don't know what a professional rugby player would get normally, but like, yeah, you'll know what a rugby player would that be. Half a million quid. He's on half a million quid a year which is decent, you know, obviously a huge amount of money, but no one knows he is, and he's a start off Wales and he's there for 10 years, Six Nations, World Cup. What a horrible conundrum. Well the parents answer is you'd want them to be happy wouldn't yes. But it'd be playful Wales really in that situation. Because you still be, you'd still be well off

wouldn't you? Yeah. You make an half a million quid a year for 10 years. Yeah, yeah, or you could make 10 years salary in one year. Yeah, you're set up. You're a 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their. Yeah, their. Yeah, their. Yeah, their. Yeah, their. Yeah, their. Yeah, their. Yeah, their. Yeah, their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their th. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, their th. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their one year. Yeah, but you're never going to spend 200 winning quid here. Well, give it a go. Yeah, I don't have got bashing it on mine. Imagine the garage you could build for your cars. It'd be awesome, wouldn't it? Wouldn't it? Wouldn't it be a fucking tree in Cardiff? Yeah, he does watch a lot on his phone? He plays a lot of fe? Yeah, he does watch a lot on his phone.

He plays a lot of FIFA online with his mates. Just teenage stuff, isn't it? He loves his weights, he started doing weight training. He's loving his weight training. See, that wasn't even a thing when I was a kid. How dare you? What does Possible sound like for your business? It's having to spend to power your scale with no preset spending limit. Redefine possible with business platinum. That's the powerful backing of American Express. Terms and Conditions of Live,

visit MX.Ca. Business Platinum. As a parent, I can consider you to be, you know, you're quite modern and, you know, liberal and I can imagine quite fun as a parent. How does it differ from the parenting you had growing up in Barry? We moved house last year and my biggest thing is I want their kids to feel that they can bring their mate so many time, they can take what they like out of anywhere. They can play what they want to do. They can go in the garden. They can go and they can go do what they want. And all their mates can do the same thing as well. Yeah.

Because the big difference from me was growing up. I mean dad can't see my rugby games and that and mom was a good mom and everything. You know, I've got to ask the their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their child, It was my house, my friend's house. It was like, this is very definitely my mom and dad's house. I've got to ask permission to stuff and ask permission for this. And can this person come over, can they do this? I never wanted that to be the case. I ordered my wife.

See and not be not be heard that, isn't it, basically, that would be like, like, to their. but he smoked a lot back then. I'd be sort of sat, I'd just make these little filters like yogurt pots and Carmel. And I'd sit in the corner like some kid from 1950s US government commercial, just with this thing over my nose, just breathing, trying to filter out the tomato fuem, like a dick, you know. No, I mean, lovely, watched in Granstad of a gas mass. Well, I think the 70s because you're just like, you know, how was you like in your 40s when you had the kids or late 30s? I was

working out now. I was 37 when we had Ben and I was 40 when he was born. Yeah so you about my dad was about in his 40s when he had us and stuff like that. Did you think that like you weren't going to have kids or what was you thinking or was you always going to be a older parent? It generally never crossed my mind. I was I was I was I thrown over the place and I've I thrown over the place and having no responsibilities and then I met Kelly when I was about 30, 30, 31 and we just gone great together. I was for the first time. I was thrown. I was thrown. the first. th. th. th. th. I. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. I was, thin. I was, thi. I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was. I was. I was, I was. I was, I was. I was. I was. I was, I was, I was. I was, I was. I was, I've. I've. I've. I've. I've really. I've really, I've really, I've really, I've really, I've really, I've really, I've really, I've really, I've enjoyed, I've enjoyed, I've really, I've really, I've enjoyed, I've enjoyed, I've really, I've enjoyed, had before. So we went out for a couple years and we got engaged and then we, and after two years, we got married, all quite traditional. And I was still like mid-30s thinking, love and life, you know, holidays and going, and go on hot places and enjoying ourselves. And then she was like, and then she was like, oh, then she was liketo tick a little bit. As you said, I think we should start a family. I was like, oh, okay. I never thought of it.

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you know, she's been looking at the metrics, so you know, she wanted to the autumn term. So I said, okay, well, no problem, girl this time? Okay, second time it's ages. Oh my god. My daughter was born right at the end of or the today. as kid in the year. Oh, yeah. We tried for months a month and we tried everything.

It was hilarious. What do you mean everything? Oh, fuck it out. I can remember, we'd have all the sort of charts and when was the best time to have sex and all this sort of stuff. Yeah. And then she'd read, I was so unromantic. I had to have a mug, like one-of-meal coffee mug, a fill of a chilled water.

I had to put my balls in a mug for like five minutes before all in the bed. And then she'd be doing like upside down cycle kicks and stuff and trying to get things, you know, it was all very functional the second time round. Can I ask about the coffee mug? Did that continue as a coffee mug or was that? They go back into rotation? Your special nut mug? That's the guest mug. We get builders' road. Town planners. Town planners are going to get your chops around there. Yeah, because it is quite, when you're trying, if it's not happening straight away, it becomes

almost like a part-time job, it's non-stop, and it. But I ain't done it. And you get a phone call, so can you come on? I got it. It becomes so functional. The mug's in the fridge. Thank you. As much as the last conversation won't hint at this, but you were a teacher.

Yeah, yeah, the two unrelated, but yeah. So you spent your time around kids as well, but you just had no interest. Did that make you want to be parents? Well, I love kids. I've always got up well with kids because I'm a bit childish. These days I'd probably be diagnosed with ADHD. their acher said definitely definitely definitely and when were your teacher what decade were your teacher 90s so 99 to 2007 right okay years yeah yeah and what was that like compared to like the teaching when you were a kid versus being a teacher when you're a teacher a lot less violent than when

I was in school I sort of caught the end of moral punishment really did you? Yeah even though even though it was illegal technically still a lot of it went on still. Fucking out. You still got slapped and punched and kicked. Bloody ew. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Bashed your heads together and, you know, you know. Fash and all that sort of stuff. Wow.

Yeah. And when that happens,. Yeah. So we know that. Did you enjoy being a teacher? I loved it. I love because I love being around kids and I'm going to laugh and do it. I didn't like, I was terrible at the paperwork and planning and all that sort of side of things. I'm awful of that. And so you obviously did parents evenings.

Yeah, I love to parents evening. Are you judgmental on that? Because is your wife a teacher as well? So she's Deputy S. She's very conscientious and very good at what she does. So when it comes to your parents' evening with your kids when you're going in and any sort of problems at the school, are you both judgmental because obviously you know how it works? Are they at her school by the way, by the way? No, no, they bloody hard work teacher, you know, if we worked it out as an hourly rate, the amount hours that good teachers put in is phenomenal, so I got nothing but respect for them. So I always, I've never been one of the judgmental types as a parent I don't think, you know, you want kids to get a good education and you want the school to be doing their job, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their, their, their, their, is, is, is, is their, is their, is their, is their, is their, is, is, is their, is their, is their, is their, is their, is their, is their, is their, is their, is their, is their, is their, is their, is their, is their, is their, is phenomenal, is phenomenal, is phenomenal, is phenomenal, is phenomenal, is phenomenal, is phenomenal, is phenomenal, is phenomenal, is so.. is so. I I I I is some. I is, is their, is their, I's, I'm, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, is head spend on education is lowering Wales, they're bigger class sizes. It's a lot of stress, like, you know, they don't need extra stress.

So yeah, but then the flip side of that is, because, especially with, because Kelly knows, because she knows the score, because she obviously, in her job, deals with all that side of things. She knows what they should be getting and what they should be and what and what and what and what and what and what and what and they should be. And they. And, they. And, they. And, they. And, they. And, they. And, they. And, they. And, their, their, their, their, their, they'll they're they're they should they're their, they're, they're, they're, they're, they's, they's, they's, they's, they's, they's, they's, they're, they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're their. And, their. And, their. And, their. And, their. And, their. And, their. Yeah, their their. Yeah, their their their their their their they're their they're they're they're they're you're going to smooth it over and she'll deliver the, the slough. I give him a cigarette, and Kelly comes in and smacks it out of them and I can stop physically. As your son had a drink yet? I don't think he has. I don't mind if he does. I don't mind if he does. Like I've said to him before chandel, do you want that. to try to get them a worryer because I think I'm such a I love my kids to bits and I am a very overprotective dad I know that I'm much too overprotective with

them so I think of all the messes I got myself in on booze yeah as a youngster I don't want them to do that I know I know I know this part of growing up I just think God I'm terrified now if they're away the they're away they're away they're away the they're they're their their they're their their they're their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're their their their they to to they to toy toy to ty to to to try to to to to they they they they they're they're as a teenager you all make mistakes and do things that you look back and cringe going, oh God, why was I doing that? I was a silly 16 year old, but it's much better for them to make the mistakes when they've not had 10 pints. Yeah, exactly that, that's exactly. It's a British thing in it. And there's always a politician that will come out and say we need to have more of a sort of European drinking culture. But that's not our culture is the thing. Yeah, he's never has been. We don't do that. We just get pissed. That's what British people do. Yeah're not going to get a 15 year old lad who's going, I'm going to go out and have a glass of wine with dinner.

Like, can you know, no, down by the canal? No. I just have a half of Guinness actually for Paddy's Day, just to celebrate politely. Who can happen? I think though you're a younger generation are a bit more interested in going to the gym and their bodies and what they look like and mental health way more so they used to. While I was growing up, sports people were people like Tony Adams. Yeah, Brian Robson. Bill Wurbernick, Alex Higgins, Brian Robson, right?

People who are pisses and sports people. Whereas now, you know, my boy loves. Gareth Bale, Bill. You're a golfer. Great golfer. He's a good golfer. Good golfer. Good golfer. I've got quite a curveball question about a Welsh person. Alex Jones.

We had Alex Jones. We had Alex Jones. Yeah. Have you met Alex. Yeah. Have you met Alex Jones? in which you failed to break the world record for hugging the most people in a minute. Yes, true. And it was very contentious as well, Josh, might I add. I'd say it was one of the most bizarre clips I've ever seen in my heart. Is it on the one show? It was a thing called Make Wales Happy, which was a high budget...

A relatively high budget program made by VBC Wales a couple years ago. And one section of it was, I did various experiments about happiness. And at the end of it, they wanted to break the world hugging record for a minute. And there to be different people, couldn't be the same person twice. So there was a fellow there from the Guinness Spokal Records with his Blazer and his clipboard. Live TV was the last segment. And I smashed the old record, I smashed the record attempt, an old lady saw me and sort of stumbled, I don't know if she was, she's not made a word obviously, so she got enamored of me, I don't, I don't don't, something happen. She lost her foot in, I sort of stepped forward to grab her, gave her a hug, gave her a hug, the director's tap, and the director's tell. At the end, I was disqualified on live television and they said you want to go again and the director's going can't just lie TV you fucked it mate so I was robbed of

the world hugging record I know absolutely brutal yeah yeah yeah and Mike I wanted to ask you another question as well I've sort of followed your fitness journey on Instagram where I think is in lockdown you sort of lost a lot of weight and got very musly and I got buff you got really buff. How old you must have been what like in your 40s then when you was doing that? 48 so I think sometimes the dad's bod thing and then sometimes when you become a dad you get busy you start eating crap and that's when it's sort of you start to lose it don't you? I want to try and get you give to any parents listening that want to get back on it? How did you do it? What was you doing to get back in shape? I've got to get back on it because the golden rule is, and it sounds like you're stating the object, it's consistency.

And I did it. I'd always been a good Nick, and then we had kids. And you end up having to takeaways and not sleeping and I ended up getting up to 20 plus stone. Blamey. You really do like Elvis, don't you? Lockdown. Do you remember in lockdown? They were sitting that the weight was a big factor, remember? I thought, right, I got a young family, you know, for God's sake, give yourself a chance if you get. I got a lockdown.

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And then when the gym's open again, I started lifting a bit of a bit of a bit and the weights, and then when the gym's open again, I was back on the gyms open. And then when the gym is up when I went back on the wait and I did a lot of weights when I was younger so it was easier for me to get strong again because I'd been strong before but the thing with, because someone said you can't outrun your fork which is a great saying right? Can't out run. Well if you do 45 minutes of an exercise bike it seems like you've done a lot of work but you have you have like a toxx. to all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all. And all. And all. And all. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to to to. to. they. to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. the the the the the the the the the the the the the thea. the they. they. they and you've had a sweat on, you tend to say no to that twix because you think I want to have that because I'm just trying. Yeah, of course. So you shall make good decisions because you've been up early doing a bit of work. So it's consistency and then then stupidly like an idiot'm back out again myself now Rob, so you'll do it, mate. Yes, that's a plan.

Consistency. I want to get in shape by July the 1st. July the 1st. What's happening then? Canada day. I always have ato live in Canada, I like it. Fair enough. Yeah. So July 1st, Top Soft and a bit of maple syrup, is that what's happening? Yeah, we're coming to live maple syrup and get licked off by grizzly back.

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Oh my God. I'm gonna take a vest and put it in my back pocket when it gets hot. Perfect. I think we should agree to that and Michael needs to leave it the episode that the July 1st will put a top plus photo on Instagram. Because it's funny if we all just post us fat on the first of July. I put weight on. Even way it's amazing. If we get comments saying I just think it's really powerful what you guys are doing because a lot of people would be ashamed to put these photos up.

But it gets heat the wrong way like I just seen the body positivity in overweight men should be celebrating more and we're all going but this is the best we've looked they've all lost the stone you don't need to lose weight though Josh still not body shame in anybody if you want to be big yeah I would like to be not big yes I'm the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th So I'm they they they they they they they they're they're the the th th th th th th th th to to be to be to be to be to be to be to be th. to be th th th to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're their their their their their th their th th th th th th th th th tho tho tho tho tho try try try. try try to be try. to tho tho to to tho tho to their their tho tho to lose weight though Josh. You're not quite a shame in anybody. If you want to be big, be big. I'm not going to go, people who are big. But I would like to be not big. Yes. So I'm going to try and dry the first. July the first. July the first. Get my top off with you two.

That's what I'm going to to. . kah. ,,. worm. Unknown.. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. to. to. to. to. to. to. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. tto. tto. try. tto. try. tto. try. try. to. to. to. try. to. to. the. the. the. back garden. I'll be next to, hopefully, the hot tub. But don't you live off next to a man who's called like tops off Steve or something? Topsov Vic? I moved, haven't I? I used to live next to the topsoff, but he comes to my house now more than he did. What to be the to be? their. the to. the the to be. the the the the to be. the the the tooes. the too. the too. too. too. too. too. too. too. too. too. to to to to to to told. told. to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to told. told. told. told. the the the the the the the top, the top, top, top, top, the top, top, top, top, top, top, top, top, top, tooe, too. too. too make, do you want to come down the arena on Saturday? He said, yeah, what for?

I said, what that podcast do with the boys? Yeah, no problem. I said, do you want to come out on the stage and saying a lot of people? No, no, no, it'd be great. Did you want to July the 1st. This is great, this is exciting. It's exciting. Thanks Mike and lovely boys, thanks a lot. And also listen to the social, is it still called the socially distant sports bar? It is called that. It's still called the social distance sports bar. It is called that. It's called that. You've stuck with your lockdown. I know. the distant pod so so we'll thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. th it's a great podcast. Thanks Mike and I'll see you on the Canada Day.

Lovely boys. Take care July the first year we come. Cheers mate, bye. Mike Bubbins. The Bubbins. The Bubbster loved him. I love Mike Bubbins. He's so good to today.

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