Parenting Hell with Rob Beckett and Josh Widdicombe - S6 EP42: Rick Edwards

Episode Date: June 2, 2023

Joining us this episode to discuss the highs and lows of parenting (and life) is the brilliant presenter - Rick Edwards. Rick's podcast 'Eureka!' is available to listen wherever you get your podcasts. Parenting Hell is available exclusively (for free!) only on Spotify every Tuesday and Friday. Please leave a rating and review you filthy street dogs... xx If you want to get in touch with the show here's how: EMAIL: [e-mail] INSTAGRAM: @parentinghell MAILING LIST: parentinghellpodcast.mailchimpsites.com  A 'Keep It Light Media' Production  Sales, advertising, and general enquiries: [e-mail] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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first time Isabella played along. We went to the O2 live show. Sofia was shocked to discover you are actual real-life people, not just funny names to say. Thanks for keeping me laughing and bright and up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up the the the their their their their their their their the say. Thanks for keeping me laughing and brighten up my quiet days in the office. That's Lauren from Great Dunmo, Essex. You're Dunmo. Great Dunmo. What the fuck is that? I've never heard of that. No idea. Great Dunmo. I met a fan of the podcast last night, Rob. Yeah. She said to me, she lived in Kent. Yeah. She said to me, she's been trying to work out Just like, yeah, I know I know where Rob lives now And from what he's saying I've been trying to piece together where he's moving to Oh God, that's what I thought I'm sorry just I just gave it the postcode of your new address How did it? Yeah, everyone knows where I live because I now at the moment? Well, you've got that big picture of yourself of the the Yeah and get beat so yeah Beckett I don't have got Beckett Towers in 10 foot

letters written on the van. Yeah yeah. I'm trying to escape a bit of quiet time now. Right let's before we bring on Rick Edwards who is sort of disarmingly attractive it's quite a stressful look. We mention it but it's actually really panicked she doesn't it. Do you want to correspondence correspondence correspondence correspondence correspondence correspondence correspondence correspondence correspondence correspondence correspondence correspondence correspondence correspondence correspondence correspondence correspondence. B boom. B. B. B. B. B. to to to to to to to to to to the the the the their. their. their. to their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. I their. I their. I their. I've. I've. I've. I've. I'm. I've. I've. I the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the their. I I I I I I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I the the the the their. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I've. I've. I've. I've. I've. I've. I've. I've. I've. I'm. I've. I'm. I'm. I'm. some correspondence? Boomers. Hi, Josh and Rob. When my mom was a kid, her and her huge family were taken to Blackpool and the Fun House included one of those insanely indoor vertical drop plastic slides. Death slides, I think you'll remember them to be called Rob. Is that correct? Well, they're basically repurposed a death slide for a beat the wall, haven't they? I spoke about it before. Yeah, yeah. Are they the ones you hold onto and they drag you up and that you go or do you climb up

it some stairs? If you climb up sit and then you just fall, don't you? Yep. So the new version of that is they put you in like a suit because my kid's done it and they hold onto like a stick and they pull you up and you go as high as you want to as high as high as high as high as high as high as high as to as high as to as to as to as to as high as to as to as to as high as to as to as high as to as to as to as high as to as to as to as high as to as to as to as to as to as to as to as to as high as you and shitting yourself, they basically you start at one, two, and then it's like the top level, which is six, but it slowly builds your confidence rather than you climbing six flight of stairs and your dad screams, you have, get down the death slide, what's wrong with you are? Fucking out we're on holiday, supposed to enjoy the slide, slide down the defts. My mom's twin brother was wearing a browned-hand acrylic cardigan. That feels like a detail we need to know. Yes.

And as he flew down the slide at a great rate of nods, he put his hand in the pocket of cardigan, he put on fire. Creating a space for static sparks to catch a light. No. As he reached terminal velocity of the form of the slide his whole cardigan caught on fire. No! He was quickly patted down and the day continued like nothing had happened. Classic 70s boom of parenting. Oh my God. Keep up the amazing podcast.

I'm very much enjoying laughing out loud of my long walks. You make the day go faster. Much love, Low Palmer. I thought it was a death slide because of the height, not that you'd catch a light. How can material make do that? Like how do they know the pocket is the thing that created the fire? That's a very precise way of the parents blaming the kid. Well you should never put your hand in your pocket should you? That's why I caught fire. Hi Rob and Josh. I have very clear memories of going to local social club with my dad on a Friday and Saturday evening, along with the other local dads and their kids. My dad would enjoy a few beers while I only had one can of diet coke for the entire evening. How on earth

would one can of diet coke last a four-year-old all evening? Well, my dad used to tell me that if I drank my coke really, really slowly, there would be a free holiday to d to to d to to d to d to to to to to to to to to to to to to th... Oh, th. Oh, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, the thi, the thi, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the thi, I, I, thi, thi, thro, thro, toooooooooooooooooooooooo. today, today, today, today, the. their, their, their, theirto tell me that if I drank my Coke really, really slowly, there'd be a free holiday to Disneyland at the bottom. Oh, no. That's awful. Q me drinking as slowly as possible all evening to excitedly look through the hole in the bottom of the empty can to see nothing but metal. I would turn to my dad and say there was no holiday. My dad would then reply, well you have to drink it the the the the the the the the the thake tholk. tho. the th. th. th. th. th. th. thin, th. thin' thin' tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. thoom. that's, thathea, that's, that's, that's. that's. that's. that's. Oh, that's. Oh, that's. Oh, that's. Oh, that's. Oh, that's. Oh. Oh, that's. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh, that's. Oh, that's. Oh, that's. Oh, that's that's that's that's that's that's that's. Oh, that's. Oh, that's. Oh, that's. Oh, that's. Oh, that's to drink it slower next time. Fucking out. I genuinely only cottoned on to this when I was in my 20s. Oh God, that's when the old trauma starts coming out.

Yeah, thanks Laura Billcock. Do you think Boomer parenting is basically drunk? Well, there is an element of that, isn't that party and they're pissed and they're at the barbea week when I was drunk... Because I'm not and this is not me just because I remember when I was at that barbecue the other week when I was drunk. I just was saying yes to everything. I wasn't telling them that they'd win it but like you say things that you're basically you're basically, so I'm doing unconscious. You're doing unconscious parenting. you're drunk. You're not you're not conscious. You're not conscious. You're not conscious. You're not conscious. You're not conscious. You're not conscious. You're not conscious. You're not not conscious. You're not not not conscious. You're not not conscious. You're not not not conscious. You're not conscious. You're not conscious. You're not conscious. You're not conscious. You're not conscious. You're not conscious. You're not conscious. You're not conscious. You're not conscious. You're not conscious. You're not to. You're not to. You're not to. You're not to. You're not to. You're not to. You're not to. You're not to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to thei. thei. their. their. their. I. I. I. I. I. I's their. I'm not their. I'm not their their their te. I'm not te. I'm te. I'm te. I'm te. I'm te. I'm te. I'm te. I'm their. I'm which is what I have to do to stop myself getting over, excited. So if I'm too stressed, I have to slow down and do my breathing and meditation so that I'm conscious because I can become unconscious.

Alcohol makes you unconscious, even just a few drinks because you're just wavy and you're having the feeling of being merry or drunk. You're not really thinking about everything, that's why people do it. It calms your brain down, doesn't, the th, th, th, th, th, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, their, th. And, their, their, their, th. And, to to to to to to to to their their, to to to to to to their, I'm their, I'm to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to th. I I I I I I I I I I I I I, I I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I'm, I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm thi. thi. thi. thr. thr. thr.ee.e.e.e. I'm the. I'm theate. I'm toe. I'm toe. I'm toe. I'm really thinking about everything. So that's why people do it. It calms your brain down, doesn't it? But it can also be a pattern of behavior where if I get unconscious thinking, I'm just going, right, I've got to do this, I've got to do that, because I need to get some money and I'm running off old, old ways of thinking rather than actually feeling how I feel about it. Someone said, if someone says, do do, do, do, do, do, do, to to to be, I, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, to be, to be, to be, to be, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, th. th. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi. And, thi. And, thi. And, thi. And, thi. And, thi. And, thi. And, thi. And, thi. go Yep do that because I need to work I need to get money because that's what we do I've got poverty mindset I need money I need money and stuff where actually if I'm conscious I can be like no Let's breathe through this do I really want to go there what's happening next week what's happening And then you make better decisions because you're more conscious and then you make better I'm now thinking about drinking a little bit less because I'm doing so well in my day-to-day

life trying to be more conscious and measured in my decision-making, but then as soon as I go to the pub, I'll get pissed and then before I know it, I've replied to four emails and I'm off to the Isleman for a five-night gig. I'm like, what happened? So I think maybe some of this boomer parenting comes from being slightly unconscious decision making because really most people know that's a bit of a mean thing to say to your kids you can't dress it up as, oh it's only a laugh, no it's not, because children think literally and they literally think they're going to go to Disney if they drink that Coke slowly, but anyway, that's a bit of a weird rant, but that's something I've been thin't interesting interesting interesting interesting interesting interesting interesting interesting interesting...... I'm a weird. I'm a weird, I'm a weird, I'm a weird, I'm a weird, I'm a weird, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm a weird, I'm a weird, I'm, I'm a weird, I'm a weird, thinking about. I think it's interesting. I think it's genuinely interesting. When my eldest was three, in year three, it was her first

year doing Christmas in her new school. As we approached the festive season in anticipation of the mental load hitting dizzying heights, I asked if she was working on any Christmas projects. She simply looked at me and said, no, we don't really do Christmas at this school because you know we've got Joe Wicks' kids there. This clearly stopped me in my tracks as we live in rural Leicestershire and Joe Wicks' kids definitely don't go to a school. So I double-checked. Are you sure on that?

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Do you know what, we should have read that email out before the Peter Andre episode? That's bad, that's bad presenting from us. But instead, Rob, we've got an incredible guest. Yes, I love Rick Edwards, a good guy, but also as well he's real in the midst of work-life balance and new baby and their first baby. So not only has he got his work-life balance, he's also got like his old life, new life balance have been a parent now and trying to juggle it. And it's, I think he's doing well, but I think it's tiring.

Yeah, he still looks annoyingly good. This is Rick Edwards. Hello, Rick Edwards. how are you? You just said that like you read it, like you don't know Rick. No. Richard Edwards? Richie Edwards? Yeah, I mean, Rich is fine with me actually. I didn't choose to be, the only reason I'm Rick and not Rich is because I changed schools. And when I joined the new school, there was a lad who had been quite popular, who just was called Rick and so everyone was just like well we just call you Rick as well just easier. Oh that's good so you kind of you went on the road the wave of his popularity.

Yeah it was actually quite a handy way in because it's intimidating go to a new school. Yeah it worked quite nicely so I didn't question it didn't question it also to be honest I sort of felt like better for someone else to choose it for you because I think Rick is better than Rich but I've never had yeah yeah Rick it's much better in it yeah I think so yeah but anyway call me whatever you like it's fine you can read it before before we start Rick I didn't say I'm quite happy with doing this on Zoom because you are one of the most devastatingly tall and handsome people I've ever met and it's quite difficult to concentrate in your company I find Rick. Yeah I mean it's disappointed I could see you read that off as well no I'm trying to do is I'm trying to find a photo of me and you when I met you at Wimbledon and I look like a child toto you, a pathetic little child next to this massive

man that looks lovely. I just cracked me up that photo. But we had a nice time at Wimbledon, though, didn't we? Oh, it's a lovely gig. That was Stormsy was there that year and he sat behind me and he'd never been to tennis before and he went and he went and when it went, he went, I sweared, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I had, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I'd th. It was, I'd had a nice, I'd had had had had had a nice, I had had had had had had had had had had had had had had had had had had had had had had had had had had had had had had had had had, I had, I had, he was, he was, he was, he was, he was, he was, he was, he was, I had, I had, I had, I'd, I'd to, I'd to, I'd to, I'd to, I'd to, I'd to, I'd to th.a. We'd th. We'd thi. We'd to to to to to to to to to to to to to to th.a.a' a nice, we'd th. It immediately makes you think the BBC and Mr. Trick not to have red button, stormsy commentary. I know. Well, we will come to parenting as we always do, but me and Rob are obsessed because

we're obsessed with sleep on this show with people who do breakfast radio and what their lives are like. Yeah. Well, in a word terrible. But also, so you do the breakfast show on five live? Six to ten is that? Six till nine actually. Six to nine. Yeah, so what's even more annoying about that is that lots of people or say to you, do you know what? It's the perfect job for being a parent. I'm like, well it clearly isn't. I'm like, I get even less sleep than everyone else and no one else in the house is getting enough sleep. So you're six to

or nine and how old your your child? He is 14 weeks so it's all quite... Yeah. You're in the trenches 14 weeks. Yeah, yeah. And how much did you take paternity leave? Two weeks and then two weeks holiday so four weeks total. And back in the saddle so is it London or Manchester? I'm London at the moment and then we're schlepping back up to Manchester. But like all of our friends and family around here so it didn't really make any to Maroon us, Muruna's, in Cheshire where we know literally no one. So what do you live that? Do you live in Cheshire at the moment? Well, we will do. Yeah. When you get once the baby's a bit older you'll be up there.

Yeah when you, when once the baby's baby's baby's to get back up there and the reality is I'm dreading it. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Well, it's, it's tough when there's night feeds going on and you're going, I've got to be up at seven. But you're going, I've got to be up at three 30. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. three 30. Yeah. three 30. Yeah. Yeah. three 30. three 30. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. three. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. I's. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. th. th. th. I. th. th. th. th. th. that's. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. I. I. th. I. th. I. th. I. th. up at three. Yeah, well, 330 actually. Yeah. Yeah, that's that's exactly what's happening. And there's a sort of sense. Well, I don't know if you had it, but I have where you feel a bit like a spare park because there's only so much as a dad you can do. So you're not a toast making or getting water and stuff. It's sort of like hovering around on the periphery just being ready to do anything that is out of you but fundamentally a bit of a spare part and is she breastfeeding then is that? Yeah yes we can't really share it I mean I really have tried. I know but that's the thing it's so different like because Lou

couldn't breastfeed it was like if you're like bottle baby the baby's breastfed the bloc not the the the to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the the the to to the the to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to too. too. too. too. the too. the too. too. too. too. too. too. the the the too. the the the the to to's so much more split down the middle. But when is the baby's breastfed, the bloke naturally cannot do anything. No. To help with that kind of thing. Yeah, and I mean, I actually, I remember seeing this years ago and thinking that's quite funny. Maybe I'll get that. But you can get a sort of like prosthetic, what, what tips and like Paul Gasco. Not permanent. Yeah, like strap on ones and then you fill them with formula or whatever and then you can as a man it's sort of

breastfeed. Wow. Are you tempted to go with the fake tip bowls? I was of course I was in that in the end it doesn't it feels weirdly disrespectful to Ema somehow if I suddenly roll in. With a pair of tits. A man's playing, here we go, I've got my own tits, watch that. This is how you do it love. Here we go. Oh, I'll get him to latch in no time.

And that's how you latch. That's how you latch, that's how you latch, okay? But anyway, so the thing that I find is then you have to be available and sort of enthusiastic at all times. And so when, so what I do the changing, so when he, when he feeds at night, obviously I'm not doing the feeding, but I am doing the changing, so I am getting up. Not like every time, but sort of quite regularly. So I'm, I mean, I'm completely broken. I'm so time. And there's no sitting there any way around it, I don't know. And I sort of constantly looking, like there was definitely a time in my life where when I told people how old I was, people have been like, no. and I feel like that has

completely in in a matter of months has completely gone. I'm like I'm 43 and people are like yeah. Yeah no, well that's a delicate way to say I'd say at a moment I've seen you looking perkier. Yeah yeah definitely look like a man that's got stuff going on. Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah but if I saw the the the the the the the th I I I I I I I I I I to to say I to say I to say I to to say I the the to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the to to to to the the to to to to to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the ttold ttold ttold ttold tole tto tto ttold tole tto tole the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the moment I've seen you look in perkyer. Yeah, definitely look like a man that's got stuff going on. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But if I saw you in the cute and sangri is not a big trolleyful and you had some coffee and some bread, I'd go, go, Ed, mate. You need to get out of this sharpish. Miller Light. The light beer brewed for people who love the taste of beer and the perfect

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Speak no evil. Only in theaters now. And so what are your nights like when they, like, what time you're going to bed like seven? Well so pre baby I was sort of trying to go to bed at about eight and now it's slipped to sort of nine nine thirty sometimes ten I mean we're really sort of and I'm not like I'm not in many ways actually not a Maggie Thatcher figure yeah I can't sort of cope on four hours sleep like I'm terrible. I'm really, I'm really like I'm really. I'm really. I'm really. I'm really. I'm really. I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm try, I'm sort try, I'm sort try, I, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, t, t, t, try, t, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, th, th, a Maggie Thatcher figure. I can't, I can't sort of cope on four hours sleep. Like I'm terrible. I'm really, I'm an old school eight hours guy.

Really? Are you? And I'm getting nowhere near eight hours. Oh my word. And so what's it like at 3.30 when you've had those, like, what are you doing between 3 and 6? So getting in and then doing prep for the show because it's not annoyingly, yeah, one of these lower shows. Yeah. Yeah. Low over I were all. You can't play, he's no music. There's a music at that time they know. That is brutal. It's just me chatting to people about quite a serious. Yeah, I'd say, I'd say, because we, we, I'd say we, we cycle between two, five and six in

the mornings. And the sense of relief in your voice when you're talking about the last night's Premier League games is palpable. Which actually is probably not a great compliment to my broadcasting skills. You shouldn't ideally be able to hear that. Oh, he's happy again. Let's let him get through that bit. It'll be happy. I think I think he does sterling job. I'm projecting. Because Chris Evans famously is to turn up for his breakfast show as they were doing the news. So actually show it officially started at six or something.

He'd swan in at two minutes past six and then start talking at three minutes past six. Yeah, I mean years and years ago I did a show on what was then XFM and you could. Yeah, I'd sometimes be like running running down the corridors and sweating to get in to be able to speak straight after whatever whatever what what whatthe top of the hour and you sort of do the food fighters it was the food fighters I tell you that it's all it was Kasabian are you like well you know it's sort of straightforward enough not to disrespect the fine work that you know Johnny Bourne and Chris Chris Moyes are doing over there of course. So it's hard you've got to concentrate because you've got serious stuff to chat about.

Yeah, yeah, you do have to concentrate it turns out. So that is problematic. And I've had my first, sort of in the last two weeks, I've had the first time when my alarm has gone off. I've been doing the job for 18 months now, something like that. Well the alarm has gone off and I thought, what actually happens if I don't turn up here? How bad is it? How many strikes do I get? Is it immediately the missile? Or is it a little bit of wriggle room?

Because, you know, you dad, and yeah, of course the guy's fucking that good like you got a you know and Yeah, but I've thought that a couple of times now. Yeah, I think we're probably only a few weeks off me actually putting it to the test Or like a footballer, you don't love football or they just sort of just don't set up to training, but it hangs on because you can't just sax someone If there's a their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. I I I I's. I I's. I's. I I's. I I I's. I I's. I's. I I I's. I's. I I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. It's. I's. It's. It's. It's. It's. I's. It's. I's. It's. I's. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm just. I'm just. I'm. I'm just. I'm just. I'm just. It's. It's like. I'm just. It's like. It's. Itup gig I ever do, just before they announce, because wherever you walk on the stage, there's normally an emergency fire door, always look at that door and go, I could just go that way. Oh, easy. Welcome to, no, I've gone there. Yeah, for every inside, that's always in my head. But I think what I would say is Rick, you're over the excitement of the new-a. to and energy you are just like in the proper trenches of like you're not getting much back from the kid it's not like they're running around cutting and being cute and talking and saying that it's like hardcore graft where it feels like there's no sort of the buzz has sort of gone it's back to reality but it will it will get better Rick but also in absolute fairness to the little guy,

I mean I completely like, I love him. He's great, like the sort of the the actual being with him bit, I enjoy it. And like every because there isn't much that is being offered, a little smile I'm just like, I'm on Cloud 9. I absolutely love it. It's incredible. And it's just, it's probably a smile that he doesn't even know he's doing. No, he'll take it. Yeah, completely. Did you have like, we told three months was a big target. I remember that being a big thing

that things will get easier after three months. Well, I think I've heard all sorts of stuff because obviously bollocks. Yeah, bollocks. It's not as bollocks to impart. It was bollocks. I just wanted to reassure you that it is bollocks. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I, one of the main things that I remember about the birth itself was in the run-up, I like to sort of I like to sort of research and read about stuff so I did loads of loads of loathing and there's lots of science and I was like great I can go I can really get my teeth into it. You've wasted your time there. Oh yeah so you put together you know your birth plan and I've got my printed out birth plan and I'm there and I'm all ready to go. And there was just a really bleak and sobering moment for me where I remember just

as it's all kicking off and everything's going on and I just slowly just fold up my little A4, but just slide it silently into the pocket. Yeah, not going to be needing that I don't. How was you at the birth? Did you stay composed or did it send you sideways? I nearly I nearly fainted twice which is really humiliating. There's an amazing, but twice actually I got shouted at. Once by the Ema or once by the midwife, by the mid... By Ema? Or... Once by Ema, once by the midwife, the midwife shouting at me, sir, sir, I'm going to need you to sit down and drink some by that Lucasade. Specifically, the Lucusa was brought for Ema. What was you doing? What was you doing? I just gone really pale. And I was a bit wobbly I think.

And I was so aware of it happening. I was like, you cannot be this guy. You must not be this guy. And then later on, Stain nearly felt like I was about to faint again. And Enoch just started shouting about the bins of fruit pastels in the bag. So yeah, you don't think I cover myself in glory. Oh my. It's horrible though because there's nothing you can do instead but your brain's kind of what can I do? There's nothing to just have to watch. Yeah you just you've got to watch you're watching the person you love most in the world go through something that is clearly completely unacceptable.

For every possible, that should not be happening to anyone. It's a bad system that evolution's done a very poor job on in mind. And then I was like the only thing I can be in control of is me not making it worse and then I was just making it worse by panicking. Yeah. And I'm like, no, the only thing I can do it that I me not making it worse. And then I was just making it worse by panicking. Yeah. And I'm like, no, the only thing I can do, I'm not doing. Did you find yourself, because I found what I did was, I focused so much on the birth as a thing that when we were then left with a baby, it kind of took me by surprise, if you know, I mean I hadn't thought about life after the birth. The birth was so central to that first child.

Yeah, no, yeah, it's a very, it's just a very surreal experience where you're sort of looking at this creature and being like, and now you know, you've had all of this sort of medical help and then they just go, check your hand, best of luck. And then you sort of go, are you trying to figure out how a car seat works? And you know, you're right, you fixate on that and getting through that without particularly processing the fact that you're now going home with a small human that you have to try and keep alive and you're not really entirely sure how to do that. So could you, like you said, you're really into science and you like to read and prep, you know, your podcast Eureka is you talking to a scientist about science and I've noticed in one of your episodes it's like a scientific approach, you're being good at being a dad?

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quantum visitors I do it with wanted to do the podcast, is that we both really like science and think science is really fun, but most science is presented in quite dull way. It's quite boring or just quite reverential, and there's no need for it to be. And so we just kind of try and do it in a slightly more engaging way. What did you find about what makes a great father then? So it's all fairly straight it's sort of stuff that you that you already know. The big thing I took out of it and it's too early for that with ours at the moment is rough and tumble is apparently a really big part of like that's the dad's role.

Oh is it? Yeah. For all sorts of kind of developmental reasons it's really good setting boundaries, like getting them to sort of read people's emotions and stuff but it's rough and tumble so it feels like it's quite good fun as well. Yeah, yeah. That's good because I'm quite into rough and tumble. Mainly because my children are the only people I can overpower. What a great time I feel like th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm kind th. I'm th. I'm th th th th th tho that that that the the the the the the thi thi thi thi thi thi the the the the the the the the the the. the. the. the. the the. the. the. the. the. the. thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi the the the the the the theat theat the theat theat theat theat the theat the theat the the the the can overpower. It's the only time I feel like I'm winning a fight. We play trap which is sort of where I lay on the floor face down and they've got to try and run past me and I grab them and trap them and they have to release each other. That's a good game. That's why I've seen a BBC Daytime are interested.

Also they're getting a bit bigger now. It's starting to feel like jiu-jitsu training. I might just take it down the gym because that like that, but as they get bigger, my seven-year-old, like she's like, you know, quite tall now and quite heavy. And they used to jump on me, but she jumped from her bed. I was a little bit fun. And she was like you can't do that. But they were they would start your start to bash you up Josh. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, well I enjoy it though. It's fun the old rough and tumble. Rick I know you don't, you know, the mornings are hard work now, especially with the little one. What I would say is though done by nine. Yes. You're going th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. I was like, I'm th. th. th. I was like, I was like, I was, I was, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was like, I was like, I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm the th. I'm, you're going to be able to pick them up from school every single day.

And I get to do that quite a bit because of my, you know, I work randomly and stuff like that. So I do get to pick them up from school from school. And there's not still, I know it's 20, 23, it's still not a lot of dads doing that. And to be able to drop them off at school after work. No, no, their school start after nine. No, before nine Josh. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think that's psychologically damaging to do your day at work, school drop-off and school pickup. I think I think he needs, I'd have a slow morning from nine o'clock. I have an afternoon nap. You've got to introduce the afternoon nap. I can't, the thing with the nap, I do need to get better than that, there's no question. When I have a nap, and I think I've been like this since I was a baby, according to my mom and dad, I just, I wake up in a fury with a boy with a boy hot hot hot hot hot hot't do you. I don't know why like bright bright red and just like so cross and then which is and that's not that's no way to

live. You really need your sleep don't you? You are a proper eight hours old school yeah yeah otherwise it sort of turned into hellboy. Is it Emma good without sleep or is it what's it like in this time? She seems much much much better on it. Yeah, I mean, given that very obviously it's much harder for her. I think I'm suffering more. Like she's incredible. That's the other thing that I've definitely taken from this whole experience so like, wow.

I don't know how you're, I would be complaining so much. I mean, I'm complaining quite a lot as it is. Yeah, like, I don't know, I don't know how she's doing it, but she seems to be coping very well and enjoying it. Your mom hates it when you leave six half full glasses on your nightstand. It's a good thing mom lives on the other side of the country. And it's an even better thing that you can get six IKEA 365 plus glasses for just 999. So go ahead. You can afford to hoard because IKEA is priced for student life. Shop everything you need for back to school at IKEA today.

How are you, have you done any long journeys yet? Yes. We did a really wonderful journey back from West Wales on holiday Monday. That was a sweet seven and a half hours. Oh, in the card. Yeah, we didn't walk it. Although we might as well have done to be honest. Yeah, so that was, that was a big ass but then on this week and I can't work out if this is going to be a good thing or a bad thing but Amos up for an award and the ceremony is in New York so we are going to New York on Wednesday. Oh my word. With the baby and I'm like this yeah like we should definitely we should definitely

do this because it's exciting you're up for an award in America. Yeah yeah great. I won I wonder how that's going to go. I don't know what I'd say it's easier flying with a 14 week old than having like a toddler on a plane. Yeah because I think up to six months you can travel with them like I don't want to bring them a their their their their their their their their their their 14 their 14 their 14 their 14 their 14 to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to be to to to toe. to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to do. to do. to do. to do. to do. to do. to do. to do. to do. to do. to do. to do. to do. to do. to do. to do. to do. to do. to to to to to to th. th. their. th. We the. We the. the. We the. the. We the. We the. We should. the. We should. I the. We should. I the. We should. I to. We should. I to. We should. We should. I to. I to. I the. a toddler on a plane. Yeah. Because I think up to six months you can travel with them. Like I don't want to bring them around down early doors, Rick, because like you say, you feel like you're 43 people have said that you're not that, oh, he looks so good for your age, that's sort of dying down a little bit. And you've got this. Yeah. And if you know, and you might might might might might might might might might might might might might might might might might that's up to you guys. But you, until your youngest is four, you will never enjoy a holiday. Yeah, no, pretty much all of my friends have said that. Yeah, it's not my best friends,

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I think you should be okay with two of you on that flight. If you're breastfed as well, it should be able to like comfort. Is it a night flight or a day flight? Day. Are you doing dummies? Yes, yeah. I think our resistance to dummies broke after about four days maybe.

Yeah, it's fine. It's fine. I think the dummy thing is, I think it's absolutely fun. I've never met an adult work still with a dummy in, you know what it will die down. And so what's your day involved at the moment, Rick? How much parenting are you looking at until bedtime at 8 p.m? Well, I mean, it's sort of, it's just the the the day. You the day? You the day? You the day? You the day? It's the day? It's the day? It's the day? It's the day? It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's fine. It's fine. It's fine. It's fine. It's fine. It's fine. It's fine. It's fine. It's fine. It's fine. It's fine. It's fine. It's fine. It's fine. It's fine. It's fine. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's fine. It's fine. It's fine. It's fine. It's fine. It's fine. It's fine. It's fine. It's fine. It's fine. It's th. It's th. It's th.m. Well I mean it's it's sort of it's just snap schedule yeah no no we haven't got any sort of schedule yes I'm quite interested in in in starting to sleep train I don't know when I think that might be soonish I would say I think we started at six months. Yeah, I thought six months is one that gets banded around that seems sort of reasonable is still in your room. Six months presumably is he still in your room? Yeah. And how are you finding that?

It's fine because when I'm during the week I will then go into the, what is technically his room that he doesn't use and sleep in the small single bed in a heartbreaking fashion and then he will sort of bring and that's where he's changing stuff is so he will bring him in and I'll be like uh uh and then that thrush out of bed change him so so she'll breastfeed and bring him in to change wake you up. Yeah, she'll go back to bed, you change it, then you put him back in the next to the bed. Yeah, yeah, it's the sort of system. It's awful, isn't it? I've been woken up, like, I've been woken up.

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when we have water. I think by now I should be like, yes, okay, I'm like, yeah, it's changing. Yeah, it's what we do. I just don't think you ever get used to because you've had in reality, you know, 40 years of not doing something the instant you wake up. Yeah. It's so rare before you have children that you have to act upon waking up. Yeah. The snooze, but everyone's, even the snooze button, that's not an option with a child.. th. th. th. th. th. It. It. It. It. It's, it. It's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's what thi. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's to. It's to. It's what. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. to. to. to. to. the. the. the. the. the. the. snooze button, even the snooze button, that's not an option with a child. No, it's just gone. It's, yeah, the sad demise of the snooze button actually. I've not set an alarm in the morning for the morning. I've never set an alarm in the morning since kids.

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that'll send you up. Yeah, it needs to be something like a list of a history podcast or something that's like a bit not funny but like a bit back-groundy. Do you know what I mean? The voices don't really change. They're not too up and down with the last thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Sort of just a monotone history podcast. Two middle-aged men talking about the sewers crisis and I'm gone. Do you know what I mean? And incredibly you've probably got a choice of 10, 15 podcasts that will do exactly that. Yeah, exactly. Being released every day. I think you're going to have to learn to nap Rick. Yeah, I'm going to have to. Yeah, I think. that. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to be, to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. Yeah, to. Yeah, to. Yeah, to. Yeah, to. Yeah, to. Yeah, to. Yeah, the. Yeah, the. Yeah, the. Yeah, the. Yeah, the. Yeah, the. Yeah, the. Yeah, the. Yeah, the. Yeah, the. Yeah, the. Yeah, the. Yeah, the. Yeah, I. Yeah, I. Yeah, I. Yeah, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm. Yeah, I'm, the. Yeah, I'm. Yeah, I, I'm. Yeah, I'm. Yeah, I'm. Yeah, I. Yeah, I. Yeah, I'm. Yeah, I'm. Yeah, I'm. Yeah, I'm.to nap, Rick. Yeah, I'm going to have to. Yeah, I think, but it feels like it's going to be a real uphill battle, because if I've always been like this, like my parents wouldn't let me, if we went on a car journey, they would, the whole thing was try and keep me awake the whole time because if I did fall asleep in the car, when I then got then to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to their their to their their their their their their their their their their their their their their the the their the their their their their their toe up.. toe up. to toea I then got to get me out of the car would be a complete nightmare. So I think it might just be, it might be beyond me. You get with your job to travel around to big sporting events

and stuff, don't you? Yeah. So have you got any coming, any big things coming up where you're thinking, am I going to take the family to this? Well, I mean, I was sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort to sort to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to be going. I'm going. I'm going. I'm going to be going to be going to be going to be going to be the their. I'm going their. I'm going. I'm going to. I'm going. I'm the the the their. I. I. I. I'm. I'm. I'm to. I. I. I. I'm to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be.a.a.a. I. I. I'm. I. I'm. I. I. I. I. I. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It's. It's. It's to. It's to. It's to. It's to. It's to.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a. It's to.a. It's to. It's to. It's to. It's to. It's to. I mean it's not for a little while, but if we do the euros, we go to Germany next year, which I really hope we do, it'd be fucking brilliant. And I was like, get a sort of, you know, get a camper van or whatever. And I vaguely floated that to email. Actually, it's like, you seriously suggesting we travel around Germany in a camper van for this week so you can watch the football. I I did that sort of thing where I was trying to go, no of course I'm joking. No, no, I know about them doing that. I know of course, yeah. Yeah, so you'd have an 18 month

old in a camper van. It'd be you driving to trying to find soft play centres in Cologne. And also you'd be still be getting up at 3.30 but in a camper van because you'd be hosting the breakfast show from Munich or something, right? Yes, but with the time difference, 4.30. So actually... Oh yeah. When you're at work, like, so when I, in those early weeks and months, I remember like, getting a text off Rose four minutes before going live on the last leg saying that she can get our door to sleep and all that kind of stuff. Are you hosting the breakfast show interviewing I don't know, Suella Braverman down the line and you're getting a text saying he's not latching on. What from Soella about Rishi? Yeah.

Going to the thing about doing your work when you're sort of knackered or whatever. Yeah. When I first started doing TV, live TV when I was, God, I mean it's probably 20 years, yeah. 20 years ago, and my dad's saying, oh it'll be, and my dad knows nothing about this industry at all. And he just said, oh, it'll be difficult when you're on live TV if you've had, if you've had like a, if you're in a bad time, or you're like in a bad mood. And I hadn't really sort of gauge that, but it's so true that it's like that you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, that, that, that, that, that, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, it's, it's, it's, that, that, that, that, tho, tho, tho, tho, th, th, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, th. And, th. And, th. And, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th. th. And, th. And, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, tha, that, tha, that's, tha, to, tha, tha, tha, tha, tha, tha, tha, tha, tha,that it's like the you have to put a you have to put your radio show and go oh hello yeah yeah woke up a few times tonight we've got somebody no one cares yeah fundamentally I'm tired too that's why I'm listening to you to wait me up. Yeah and particularly on the BBC's people who just screaming I'm paying your wages

oh yes it is hard on the BBC's especially that screaming, I'm paying your wages. Oh yes. It is hard on the BBC's, especially that kind of show where you're talking about different opinions and stuff like that. Yeah. Do you do the final question, Josh? Well, this has been brilliant, Rick. Thanks for doing it. Yeah, it's probably an absolute joy.

Where is the little use of the grandparents before you move north. Well, that's the thing. They live like 10 minutes away. It's perfect. Sorry. Sorry, Rick. Oh, God.

Oh, my God. Oh, my. But actually, to be fair, there'll only be 200 miles away. Maybe you could, maybe you could find room for them in your camper van when you're touring Germany in Paris over next summer. The camper van I was definitely joking about Josh. Yeah, yeah, yeah, of course. The final question, Rick, what is it's about your partner and what is the one thing

she does that frustrates you with the baby that's quite annoying and if she listened, she'd go, yeah, that is a fair point actually if you brought that up. And what is the other thing that she does be like, she's so incredible and so lucky to have a baby with her. So she, like, I don't know what it is. So I'll deal with the second one first because it's easier. She has like like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, I I I the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I. And, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I'm, I'm, I she does to rock the baby to sleep. Like I've scrutinized the exact action, replicated it, and it takes me a minimum three times longer. Yeah. And it's really, and I'm like, it's like there's a sort of alchemy or magic going on.

It's like, it's like when you can, some people can work out when a piece of clothing is a fake. Do you know what I mean? Yeah, it's like, you're fraudulently trying to pass off what she's doing. Yeah, yeah, yeah, he's, he can smell it on me. Yeah. Yeah, he can smell it. You're the stars in the eyes version. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. the. the. the. the. the the the the. the. the. the. the. the. the the the the. the the the th. the the th. It's, the. It's, the. It's, the. It's, th. It's, th. It's, th. It's, th. It's, th. It's, th. It's, th. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's like. It's like. It's like. It's like, thea. It's like, thea. It's like, thea. It's like, the the thea. It's like, the the thea. eyes version of her being the actual pop star. Yeah, yeah, I was coming through the smoke. I'm pretty guns again.

And then the thing, well this is not really a thing that, I think, well, I wonder what she would think about this, well, we'll find out maybe. I think I probably have a slightly less militant, I would have a slightly less militant approach to the staining of clothes. So my feeling is, of course the baby is going to shit himself. Yeah. Yeah. Of course the clothes are going to get a little bit, you know.

But they're not in them for that long because they grow out of them and it's sort of fine. But, um have in place is a vibe where as soon as he soils anything, it gets put in a special pile, not the regular pile, where we just put it in the washing machine, where I have to, by hand with my fingers, scrub it with fairy liquids. And so I scrub, scrub the shit stays out of clothes. I'm doing this on a daily basis. Yeah, of course. And I think, you know, yeah, left to me,

that's not happening. That's not the left to you, what are you doing? Well, left me, I'm just sticking it in the wash and hoping, you know. Can I raise you one more, straight in the bin? Yeah, not bad. My rule was, what, I, I that, I that, I that, I that, I that that that the that the that that that that that the that the that that that the that that's straight in the bin? My rule was, what are we bought? I said, let's not spend money on expensive nice ones. Let's buy the cheapest, thinnest baby grows. You know the white ones that go first layer before you put the rest of the clothes on. And then I know it's wasteful, but it's only a moment in time they are getting launched straight in the fucking bed. Life is too short to scrub th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thin thin' thin' thin' thin' thin' th. thin' thin' thin' th. thaten't that' that' that' that' that' that' that' that' th. that' that' that's th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. that's that's that's that's that, that, that that that theeeeea' that theeeeatthaeeatthaeeat theeateateeateateate. theate. the short to scrub shit out of cotton. I'm not

doing it. Yeah, why didn't I marry you Rob? We both be terrible in the morning, we're enough. It'll get done. Fair and nice. I mean that's a fair point to be fair that you don't want to be scrubbing shicted in clothes if you bear hands. It's the face, it's the, it's the, it's the, it's the, it's the, it's the, it's the, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's the, it's the, it's the, it's the, it's the, it's the, it's the, it's the, it's like, it's like, it's like, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, they. It's like, the, the, the, the, the, the, they. the. the. the. the. the. the, it the it's the it's the it's like directly on my fingers I just get and then I don't know it sort of feels humiliating so. Just say just say you've done it and it's in the bin. That's what I did. We seem to be running low on those boat now no no that's just by a job lot as cheap as you can find them. It's been amazing. Thank you so much. Good luck with your podcast, Eureka, give it a listen. And yeah, it will get better. I know we laugh and it's annoying for you, but it will get better. And what now is a terrible early start, Will, when it's the summer holidays and half-term, you are going to have so much time of your kids. And that is so important and you're going to love to love to love the to love to love you to love to love to love to love to love to love to love to love to to to to to to to to the to to to to the to the to to to to to to to their to their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their thi ti. ti. ti. And ti. ti. I tia. I's tia. I's try. I's tomooooooomoomorrow. Ia. I's tomorrow. I's tomorrow. I tomorrow. And try. And try. And t is so important and you're going to love it. So it's just hard now. Trust, trust the process.

I'm trusting the process. I'm trusting you too. Okay. All right. Cheers, Rick. Cheers, man. That's brilliant. Thanks, mate.

Rick Edwards. Lovely bloke. Really nice, but I feel like he's in the trenches, mate. Yeah, big time. Morale is like, I felt like for laughing too much, but... No, that's ideal. It makes me feel better. I'm walking on there now. The problem is because our kids are getting older, it's getting slightly easier. Obviously, we'll get harder mentally because they're going to right in the heart of it, you realize it doesn't make you realize how much easier it is for us. It's all relative isn't it? Well, a bunch of fucking losers.

But right, Rick Edwards, listen to Eureka, his new podcast, listen to him on five live, and we'll see you on Tuesday. See you Tuesday, guys. Bye.