Parenting Hell with Rob Beckett and Josh Widdicombe - S6 EP8: Sam and Billie Faiers

Episode Date: February 3, 2023

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Will you come? Can you say Rob? Can you say Bucket? Right there. Good girl. That was good, wouldn't it? I like that. Who was that? That was, I'm doing this one now because we'll explain one a minute.

That was Rose Rigby repeating the intro she's heard a million times in the car. She's 16 months today and by the sounds of this can say your name is better than mine, Brill. Thanks for the embarrassing snorts of laughter in the trains silent coach Pippa. She loves listening to it on transport. Pippa cannot listen to the the the the ta. I I I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the train. Ia. Ia. Ia. Ia. Ia. Ia. Ia. Ia. trainsea. Blansehines. trainecea. traineaseaseasea. traineaseaseaseaseaseaseaseaseaseaseaseaseaseaseaseaseaseaseaseaseaseaseaseaseaseaseasease. Pappen. Pappen. Pappen. Pappen. Pappen. P. P. P. P. P. P. P. P. P. P. P. P. P. P. P. P. P. P. P. P. P. P. P. P. P. P. P. P. P. P. tape. tape. tape. tape. tape. train. train. train. today. train. train. train. train. train. train. tipa. t isn't it? Piper cannot listen to this stationery Rob where are we? We are and what time is it? Okay, this is like gorilla podcasting guys so we have been up north we've been in Barnard Castle Hexham and North Allerton and we are now in North Allerton. Yeah, we've got a show at 8 p.m... It's 752 and we've just remembered we haven't recorded the Friday intro. So we're here now and we're doing it. And I'm ready to book.

We're literally going to run this until we get told to go on stage, basically, aren't we? That's how it's going to work. Yeah, pretty much. So what you've been up to th Josh. Well I've been spending her three days with you. I did get a phone call from Lou about a fun parenting story. Oh yeah go on. When she went to pick up my youngest daughter, both teachers came out with her. I was like oh what's gone on here? And they said that she's got one of her sister's shoes. She has wearing a white trainers for PE and was like oh okay I asked the shit, what it's slightly bigger no but but the the the the the the the the the the the the th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th. Oh th. Oh tho thaton, that thaton, to to to to to to to to to to to to to to tho. Oh th. Oh th. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. Oh, th. Oh, th. Oh, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho tho tho tho to tho to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to tho to tho tho tho She has to wear a white trainers for PE and was like, oh okay, I asked the show, well it's slightly bigger, no, but two right ones. What? So Lou sent her to school.

In two right shoes? Two right shoes. One bigger than the other. Imagine if you'd done that, mate. Oh my word! That is awful. What awful? What awful? What awful? Well, no. I said, well, why don't they. I they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're their. I their. I their. I their. I their. I their. I their. I their. I their. I their. I their. I their. I their. Imagine. I their. Imagine. Imagine. I their. I their. I their. I they. I they. I they. I they. I they. I said. I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, Well no, I said well why didn't they ring home and get you to go up and swap and she said no, she just told the teachers our daughter that she liked it. So I like that. And Lou dropped some news on me. So we're doing this Wednesday. Preggas? No, no, I got. If Lou told me she was pregnant, I think I'd be sick on myself and leave the house. I'd come back, but I'd go away for a bit. If Lou told you she was pregnant via text while you were in the north of England, would that be? Better or worse? Oh my God.

I mean, I've enjoyed my time up here. But I'd say Barnard Castle on a Monday is not Vegas on a Saturday. And I think they'd accept that too. Yeah, they would. I mean, you know, that's why they came towards us. Yeah, they didn't have the option of Penantella. Or Adele every other month. Adele every other month. Yeah, so Lou dropped on me. I was supposed to get my hair cut on Friday at 220. You or Lou? Yeah. And she was like, can't the the t up? I was like, I can, but surely it's fine. We live five minute walk from the school. But yeah, I can change, but I've got my hair car, I don't want to start changing that. I went, why do you need help?

I went, I went, well, what? Well, there's a today, well, there's a play-dough. kid is there as one of them got a kid you know they both got a friend coming I was okay okay so there's four kids but no they've both got two friends coming over oh so it's they've got yeah it's basically a party Rob that's a party and and Lou said she can't carry all the backpacks get your bloody wheeler out as I said get the show wheelers get two wheelings so yeah on Friday we've got six children six children six children round for the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they the the they're they're they're they they they're the the the they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they're they're they're the the the the ttttttttttttttttttttttttttttoy they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they Go to the wheelings. So yeah, on Friday we've got six, six children. Six children, round for tea, but at least you look good. Yeah, I look great. Be at the, I've moved my hair cut back an hour.

Have you? How long does it take to cut you quite a short hair? Oh, okay, it seems a little bit. No, I'm just thinking. beard done. Oh you have your beard as well. But it probably would have been done like in about 40 minutes but it you're gonna be sick then? No my posture is really bad. Yeah mine is a hunched in the story. I'm slain back. But yeah I probably wouldn't have got back in time anyway. Oh right. So yeah that's that's my parenting story. Just go check check if I've got any parenting stories I've got from Rose. She made me face... Surely you could have done this before we started recording? We've got a billion-south fair coming up.

I was too busy worrying about the... What about the actual show that we're doing? I've just got in here rant about you, Les, which is not really parenting, is it? But I just wanted to go up a bit, um, 1970s dad by accident. I dropped my doors off at school and when they go to a club after school, they're supposed to bring an extra snack, there isn't part of snack time. So they take snacks and their lunch and then they have snacks earlier, lunch and then if they stayed like fourish, there's an extra snack for art club.

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like a joke it sounded awful and then the teachers the female teachers looked at me with disgust. Quite rightly as well but yeah I'll have words. It was just you attempting to clear your name now. Yeah that was I didn't mean it like that I was like we'll make sure yeah that doesn't happen again, babe. Do you have the teachers listen? Some do, some don't, I'm not sure. There's rumors of a teaching assistant coming to the Wembley show. Oh, do you want some news? She'll be in the front row with two right shoes on.

You want some news on gymnastics? Yeah, please. You know I do a very casual East London gymnastics. turn up and they kind of riffy. And you just chat in the corners of like Simi and Mobile Disco. Dear parents, hope you well. Please, if you haven't, register your child with British, with British gymnastics. Here we go. And so it begins. Week three and so it begins. For membership, choose bronze.

And choose active gymnastics club. For activities, choose general gymnastics. Is this where it all begins? How much is that that? that? that? that that that that? that that th. th. th. th. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the many thanks is this where it all begins? How much is that? Doesn't say because I've got to go on to the website that well the difference is British gymnastics will have their own medal and grading system but the gymnastics club have their own zooms well so it's a two-pronged assault oh my word oh my god but and we've got 17 medals neither of them can do a Rolipoli. So I don't know what the medal is for.

Okay. Shall we bring on Sam and Billy Fares? Or shall we wait until the, is it fun if we wait until we get a call? What, to go on stage? Yeah. Okay, well, what else is you're gonna talk? Oh, if they want to come to the rest are sold out yeah they're the ones well they've got singles if you want to come on your own I think you could go to the O2 but oh I want to know how I can make Roblox pedo proof right okay because my girls

are on Roblox and I don't understand it can someone email in email in how to make their pido proof and then I'll make it pedo proof the have you not selected peedo p pedo pedo pedo p so so so so p so p so p so p so p so p I have have have p I have p p p I I have p p p p I have p p I have p p p p p p p p p p p p p p p p p so their their their their their their they they they they they they they they they they they're they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they're they're they're they're they're to to to to they to they to they they they they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they they they theyproof on their iPads or what fire the experiment is. Have you not selected pedo-proof? No, I just feel like apps just go, if you press this button, your kids aren't gonna get nonced. Yeah, yeah. And that's what I need on my devices. So if anyone knows how to make that happen, let me know. But then, you know, because there is a danger of online gaming, but it does keep them quiet. How are you feeling about the fact we're about to walk on stage? I'm dangerously flatlining.

Yeah, but I've been in the, we've done this a long time. Yeah, once we get out out there, Dr. Theatre kicks in. Yeah, before you know it, we're bang on the game. Yeah, exactly. They've been really fun shows. Right. I think we should get ready though because we've one minute past eight. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It th th th th th th th. It th. It th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's been th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. We've th. We've th. We've th. We've th. We've th. We've th. We've th. We've th. We've th. We've th. We've th. We've th. We've th. We've th. We've th. We've th. We've th. We've th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. the. the. the. the. thea. thea. I've thea. We've thea. We've thea. We've we're actually late all right well this is some and Billy Fairs oh yeah yeah yeah yeah some of it I really enjoyed this interview this was a little bit loose neck for you you so explain who some and the stuff they's the stiff's they are they are sisters who were on Sam Fares oh god they're to the they're to say you can say we're ready to say to to to to to to to the to the to to the the to the they're to to the to to the to to the the the to to to the to the the they they they they they they they to to they they to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to they so so so so so I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I the sisters sisters sisters sisters sisters sisters sisters sisters sisters sisters sisters sisters sisters sisters sisters sisters sisters sisters sisters sisters sisters sisters sisters sisters sisters sisters sisters sisters they're they're they're to to the they're the the they're the they they they th you thy. thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi are they. they're they're they. they're they. they're ready? You can say we're ready to go, Ali if you want. We're ready to go. We're ready to go. Ellie did one too. Yeah, they're two sisters that were famous on towar wheat and now they have the own show. The mummy diaries, the baby diaries, it all changed, the family. Absolutely fascinating this. I loved it. Really does it on ITV. Sam doesn't th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. they they's they's they're they're their. they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're. We. We. We. We're. We're. We're. We. We're. We. We're. We. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. th. th. they. th. the TV and great chats about kids and TV and what to do with them. You're panicking though we're going on aren't you?

Bye. Bye bye. Sam and Billy Fares welcome to the podcast. Hi guys. We're very excited to have you on. I'm a big fan of your show actually. Oh really? I've never known Rob buzzing for guests more than this. Look at his little smile. He's so excited. It's a perfect, perfect guests, I think. Well can I say that I'm really excited as well because I'm a huge fan of the podcast. I've been listening to it for a very

long time so I feel like I know everything. So I mean the same boat as you Rob. But for the listeners that don't know, can you let us know your child family set up? Sam, do you want to go first? How many you got, ages? So I've got three kids, who is seven, Rosie's five, and Edward is eight months. Oh, okay. What about you, Billy? So I've also got three kids. So I've got Nelly who's eight, Arthur, who's five, and Margogo who's seven weeks. Seven weeks? Seven weeks? Limey! Fresh.

And you've just moved into a new house that's sort of finished but not finished. Yes, as you can see, there's a few wires hanging out the wall still. There is a wire literally in shot hanging out of the wall. That's been there for months. Well, well, since she's moved in. Does it look like it's growing out of my head? Yeah they look like they're getting longer like branches. Yeah no we've moved in towards the end of October and it's been a long old long old stint

trying to get there but we're we're in now we've still got quite a lot to do finishing off bits but we're in. Yeah you're in with seven week old yes seven weeks talk me th like the th th th th th th th th th th th the last th th th th th like like the last th th the last th th th th th th the last th th to to the last to to th to th th th th tho thi thi thi to tho to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to th. th. the the the the the the the the th. the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi thi thi thi's thi's thi thi's the the the the the the the theeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee Seven weeks. Talk me through. What's the last 24 hours of your life like? What's your days like at the moment? Well, quite long. Had a bit of a night of her last night actually, bless her. Do you know what she keeps doing? She wakes up at about quarter five in the morning and then she's awake to half six, right? And then all of a sudden you've got to get up and see to the other two two to get them ready for school. So this morning was really like, you know, after the weekend as well, it was like quite tyrann. But yeah, it's really full on, like, it's all a bit of a blur to be on it. You're still in that real newborn baby stage. It's a bit blurry, yeah. And it's a bit blurry, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. they. they. they. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thirty thirty too too too too too too too too too too too too too. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. trying to get ready for this this morning, I was panicking at one point, I'm not going to lie, I quickly messes my manager, I was like, I'm really running late, I don't know what to do, I was stressing, but I made it, made it. We'll try and make it as painless as

possible. So how you're doing, is now into London a few days a week. But we've, we actually, this week, we start filming for a new series of the family day. So we, yeah, we've filmed a baby special as well, but it's, yeah, we've had a bit of time off, but it's just straight back into the swing of things. I know that without that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that the the the the the the the the the the their their their their their their their the swing of things. I know that without asking what's in the show, how, like the camera people and the sound person, do they ever help out?

Do you ever go, could you just hold this white? Can you just like, yeah, you just want them to like, could you just pass me a nap? Do you know what? It's funny you say that? this is only two of them. They's, they. they. they. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, do. their. their. Do, do, do, do. Do, do. Do, do. Do, do, do. Do, do. Do, do. Do, do. Do, do. Do, do. Do, do. Do, their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, the your family, and you have to like, obviously get on with them because they're with you all the time. And actually, sometimes if I'm still getting ready, they're all like entertain or like I can hear their a half or down there with them.

Like, he like, the kids actually, when the film crew are at the door. They're like, yeah. they're really excited. It's like two other people to torment for the day. But I was thinking actually with a baby, I was thinking like she's going to obviously like grow up knowing these two people in our house. Yeah, all the time. So they do come in handy. And how is it for Nelly? Because she's like the eldest out of all the kids between yours and Sam's and she's like got loads of personality. Especially on the kids between yours and Sam's and she's like got loads of personality and especially on the show when your other kids were a lot younger she was always talking to the crew and being silly and funny and it's one thing of your

parents being famous but she's always become yeah one of the characters a bit you know in her own right how is that at school with the other kids and parents and things like that? Well do you know what it's funny because I feel like not until this last year I've noticed that children her age know who she is, sort of thing that she's on the TV and like if we're out and about people will be like, Nilly, like moms and dads are closing with my daughter can they get a photo with Nelly and I always say to Nelly do you want to get a photo because it's a really quite a strange thing isn't it? So I'm willing the selfie of your kid. So I th. So I th. So I th. So I I th. So I I I I I I I I I I th. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It I I'm th. Yeah. It's a th. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It I I I I'm a that's a that's a really. It's a really. It's a really. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's a th. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm a th. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm a that. I'm a that. It's a really. I I'm a really. Yeah your kid? Exactly. I say we just keep it no! Yeah. I feel like out of all the kids, Nellie's probably the one that's

most confident in that kind of situation, isn't she? I mean she's the one that's most confident in that kind of situation, isn't she? She's the one that can hold the conversation and she kind of really gets it. Yeah, she does. Sometimes though, she does get a little bit, in certain situations she'll do like a little bit hiding behind me. But I mean, at school, it's absolutely fine, because I feel like only now, kids of her age, when they was younger, they did take any notice. No one really knew what the show was or they didn't watch it, but now they're at an age, like eight-year-olds, where they might tune in and

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Is he a bit quieter? So we actually haven't done the show for over a year now, and that was a position between Big Paul and I that we made. And I have to be honest, we are totally different kind of family dynamics, and that's kind of why it works when I think we were all of it. But Big Pole just really didn't enjoy it that much. I mean, he'd done it for me and I'm obviously always really grateful, but he just could not relax when the cameras were in the house. I do think that kind of energy sort of played out a little bit on Little Paul as well because he used to be quite shy and never really used to be one to run to the door when the film pre were there. Rosie my youngest, you know, she was all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all th all th all th all th all th all th all th all th th th th th th th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the th. the the th. the they they they tho th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi, thi, thi, the, the, the. the, the, the, the, the, the, the. the, the, the. the. the. the. the. the. to be one to run to the door when the film crew were there. You know, Rosie my youngest, you know, she was all for it, but I struggled and as little

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Yeah, because it started just you guys and then Billy and Greg came in and now it's sort of. That's it and now we're off and then they're carrying it on. But it's been amazing. Like honestly I don't have any regrets but now I'm out of it. I just think wow I've got all this time and I can concentrate on other things and I mean Big Paul's a different person. Imagine now being thrown back into it you'd be like whoa yeah to be fair like you do have to really fully commit as a family like Greg really enjoys the filming like we love yeah he's on the phone to

producers coming up with ideas yes yes whereas oh he's probably more like on the ball with it than what I am actually, but it's a firmly commitment almost, isn't it? You do have to all enjoy it because we've always said that as well, like Greg and I, as soon as we feel like someone's not enjoying it or it's not working anymore, then it's sort of like time to maybe do say else. But for now, for now obviously we just, we're just getting on with it. They love in it. Because you have to have storylines and stuff and for you having a big house move and a new baby it's quite effortless because there is always something going on it's like you're trying to get the baby to sleep

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Yes. And they'll sort of float in and out. And she'll be chatting and she'll turn and she'll turn up and theymea. I'm not filming for your show. I'm not doing it. I'm like, okay don't. But what's really interesting is if the kids aren't involved in like, say me and Greg are filming something in the kitchen and they're just floating around after school, they want to be involved. It's like reverse psychology. Do you know what I mean? It's really bad. And all of a sudden they're downstairs doing something like like cute and funny and then's like yeah it's funny how it works like the dynamics of film it's just different all the time every day's different yeah now now questions of both of you when are they going to be allowed a phone and Instagram tic-tip because my seven year old's on me for a phone already

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there a way of? I don't know I think they could have a phone but I definitely wouldn't let Nellie out of Instagram. Give them a knock it, Nokia, there you go. Knock ya. Yeah. Yeah, snake. That'll be the best option I think. Well that's the thing. So our friends are their eight-year-old, I-message, I-message, I-message've got Nelly. Yeah, so that it's not a phone, you can't really message. No. I message.

I message. I message, but you can't make phone calls. But it's sort of like, well actually, really, the phone calls not the bit you need to worry about, is it? It is the app. True. No, it's, it's the same as an iPad, yeah. phone touch whatever it is. Well yeah she was and then she bloody lost it and you can't get hold of them anymore can you because I think they just want you to buy the phone don't they that's what they want. Of course they do yeah

but no she yeah she was she used to take it to the stables with her but then we had this problem because there was no Wi whatever, because she goes to the staples like all day. But again, it's so true that what you're saying. It's not really the phone calls that you've worried. It is the social media side. So it's whenever they've got older friends is the problem. So we went and stayed at our friends, we've got like, their to, th and to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, th haven't played Roblox then they downloaded it onto their iPad it's not like Grand Fifth

Auto for kids you're just like running around this sort of blocky world but you can message your friends on Roblox but I didn't know this so they're on their iPad just thinking they're playing a game but they're all on essentially a social media network messaging oh they're all Oh my God. I've read stuff about that roadblocks actually, so yeah, maybe just be... It's a bit dodgy. Yeah, it's a bit dodgy. Yeah, you've got to be on top of that. Oh, don't. It's like my son, he's... It's so confusing. Like, little Paul, he's got his Nintendo switch and he plays like, Maria, and that's fine. But then when I draw the line, I'm just the Minecraft he's been playing this Minecraft I just don't get it he's building in a house and it's all very like fine like I'm obviously monitoring it but I just don't get it he said to me yesterday was like oh can I play double player with his friend at home and I just said no because I was like the

nuts opening it up online I just don't get it I'm like don't understand maybe I should do some more looking into it but I just have to say no how is having the the the to to to the to the to to the to to the to the to to the to to the to to to the to to the the to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the the to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah I to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to say no. How is having an eight month old which we were very impressed with at the start until a seven-week old turned up. You didn't hear about that when she said in seven weeks? Yeah sorry but actually yeah he's gorgeous and we all adore him but he definitely was my toughest baby and I don't know if it's because you kind of have your seven-year and your five-year-year-old you have a gap, then you're thrown back into the deep head. Because I kind of, did I forget, or is he harder than the others? Like, I still don't know because, you know, and he's actually eight moms, but he's trying to walk.

Now, this never happened, yeah, honestly. They were like probably over one or one and 15 months. And my mother-in-law said that people walked at nine months. And I found that really hard to believe. I was like, really? But now? My two walked at nine months. And it's insane. But that's it. They looked so weird.

It's so funny. I bet. I bet. I didn't realize it was weird at the time because it was my kids. But I was like walking through the shopping centre with her and people were stopping and going, what's going on? I'm there. Because she was so ditty, they're quite small when they were little. And it was. And you were going, yes it is me from eight out of ten cats, thank you. Oh haven't like childproof the house or anything yet. I actually bought a pen yesterday mum made me buy this pen Billy on Amazon. I used to have a pen, vanilla. Yeah we had a little UFC pen they just sort of bow all around in.

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Yeah, but who I've recently got into the cop, but he's still in the room with just me. And then big Paul's in our big bed with Rosie and Paul. Before we could come along, it was just like two and two, like one adult one and we've never kind of gotten out of it and we always moan about it. Because people's like always hanging off the end. They're all stuck to each other in life. But we've never done anything about it. So it's our own fault, really. And it's just like. But then you had the baby so it carried on.

So is he he's into have three children if you're that far apart? Well that's it you have to be like invented I guess. I don't know. Go to the kitchen fair enough. Yeah yeah yeah that's it. But no it kind of works but it is getting a bit much now. They're getting older and bigger now as well because you know. That's it's yeah. So have you got a plan of an extraction plan essentially because I feel like Edward if Edward's in a cot already you could almost let him have that room and you slide out and it's just really about getting Rosie and little Paul into their rooms. That is the plan because we're like actually we've done quite well Edward we never done this with the other two as early on so we was like actually if we keep in this routine in his car what we need to do now to get the other two out. They sleep well together maybe what the plan should be is put them two in a room together. Yeah. But you know

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a lot better, but in our house at the moment, so I've done a bit of a Samantha, actually, I've done it to you the other day, I'm turning to you. I've actually gone into our spare room with Margo because she's sleeping in the bed, and she's, she's, she's, she's, she's, she's, she's, she's, she's, she's, she's, she's, she's, she's, she's, she's, she's, she's, she's the bed, she's the bed, she's the bed, she's the bed, she's the bed the bed, she's their their the bed the bed their their their their their their their their thi thi, she got their thi, she got thi, she got really the the the the the the the the thi thi, she got really the the th and she got really their their th, she got really their their their th, she got th, she got thi, she's thi, she's thi, she's thi, she got thi, she got thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi 't done any. So I've been like, ever? When the other two were younger, yeah, when they were babies, he used to help out. But for some reason, is Margot breastfed or she on a bottle? No, she's bottle fed. So he's got no excuse? I know exactly. He's got no excuse.

No excuse. excuse because it's really funny because Greg was trying to be very encouraging that I just exclusively breastfeed with Margot and I was thinking yeah know your game yeah actually like he's done like one of the later ones like the 11 o'clock feed but he hasn't done the middle of the night I've just don't know why I've just sort of got on with it I've gone in the spare and with Margo but I think you should bring it up on your next episode. Yeah, I do. I'm going to give Greg some credit because I was with Billy the other day and Billy was like, you know, I just, I just want her to myself at this stage. I don't even want Greg to feed her. It's just me in the room.

So even if Greg asked if you say how much you're enjoying that but you know what I do think I'm going to start trying to get her in a little you know like the next to me cops. I'm going to start encouraging that because good luck. I mean it's lovely having him in the bed but you really don't sleep. I don't think I'd go into a full deep sleep. No. Because I know she's in the bed of me. So I'm like sometimes I do that thin the thin in the thin in the thin in the thin in the the thing thing thing thing thing thing thing thing thing thing thing thing thing thing thing thing thing thing thing the night. the night. the night. the night. the the night. the night. the night. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi's thi. thi. thi. thi. that's that's that's to to that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the thi. thi. thi. to. thi. to. to. the. to. the to. the the to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to to to to to to the. the the the night where I go, yeah, you know like, yeah that's horrible. It's awful. I do that quite a lot, so there is a plan, there is a plan in place. And so where are the other two kids? Are they with Greg or are they in their own beds? No, they do sleep in their own beds. After sometimes he wakes up and you'll like sneak into the bed with Greg but he might do that at like five in the the the the the the the then go back to sleep. Yeah. Yeah, it's actually not too bad with the other two, but it took a long time to get there. How are they moving to a new place? Were they excited or are they like sad to go to go?

No, they was really excited actually. My mom actually lives in our old house. So, okay. It's so lovely because we go back there and obviously they're to to to to to to Nanny Susie's but yeah they settled in pretty well to be on these and actually they sleep better in this house than what they did in our old house which is quite bizarre maybe they just settled I don't know. So when did you actually move in and how pregnant were you or did you have a newborn? So we moved in mid-October so I was seven and a half months pregnant? Yeah and do you know what the move was really tough? It was really hard actually, like being heavily pregnant. I was exhausted. Like, I've never really done a big house move, so I never knew what people meant when they said like how exhausted it is. I mean, Manf, you've done quite a lot. Six, I think. Six. Yeah. I promised you I've done six. And we moved, similar to Billy,

we moved into this house when I was eight months pregnant. Right. So when I actually had Edward, I had a home birth, who was all in the kitchen, wasn't it? I still got boxes that like were unopened. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, you just do it. I don't know. You have to, don't you?

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But everywhere else looks lovely. That's always good. Have the camera on in the one room that doesn't look like it's done. That's the best decision. Let's talk about your podcast because you've got a podcast the Sam and Billy show. Yeah. So is this where you do it from? All the time. What's the kind of family situation with doing the podcast? So we try and do it once a week, don't we? Well, we do it once a week rather. But it's like kids like kids like. the like kids like kids like kids like kids like kids like kids like kids like kids like kids like kids like kids like kids like kids like kids like kids like kids like kids like kids like kids like kids like kids like kids like kids like kids like kids like kids like kids like kids like kids like kids like kids like kids like kids like kids like kids like the the the their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their. their their. their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their the the the the the the their the the their their their their the's always someone peeping in or, you know, when I had Edward in the early days, there was a couple times where we had to cut, let's say poor wasn't around and I didn't have, it's quite hard not having family when you live, yeah, a bit further out because you know you can't just call someone quickly to come and help. Yeah. And you have to time holidays because that's what me and Josh get in trouble with sometimes. If he's away and I'm not or vice versa, one of you's on the beach, you're like, can you still do Tuesday at 10 o'clock? He's like, oh God.

Yeah, we've done that. We've done that, we've done that, you to be quiet. Do you remember? Yeah. He was like, I'm recording a podcast. You'd be quiet. He walked in the area of the hotel, like there was like so many areas he could have sat and he sat and he sat at the one place I was sat and then he was like, in the the they. And I was like, like, really far away from anyone. And then he was like, theyrely. And then it was like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. like around the corner really far away from anyone he's decided to put up next to me and then tell me to be quiet. Was it Greg? Yeah, no yeah. Do you have the same thing that me and Rob do that you feel like you can't update the other one on your life because you're not on mic because you're like I've got to save this for the podcast. Oh yeah it's so true. We find things. We find wea. We find. We find. We find. We find. We find. We find. We find th. We find th. We find th. We find th. We find th. We find th. We find th. We find th. We find th. We find th. We find th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. th. th. the. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. th. the. the. th. the. th. the. the. the. the. the. t. try. try. the. try. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. theue, we find things like this quite hard because obviously we're sisters where we speak every day, whether it's about the kids or you know what's coming up and stuff. So we do try, like something happened to you at the weekend when you were shopping. I went, don't tell me, save it for the podcast, didn't I? Because we do, yeah. We speak so much and we want to keep it natural. It does happen. It's like with mom, mom stepped in for Billy actually when she was on maternity leave and

Mum would ring me right before we started recording and just like talk to me about all this stuff I say mom, my mom, I'm gonna speak to you in me on the podcast just save it. Save it. I'm sorry. I'm sorry darling. And how has it been though because you've moved from Essex? Does your mom still live in Essex near near Billy in the Billy's old house. She's really near me. So she's really close for you Billy. So Sam she's about an hour and a half away now is she two hours or? It varies? Oh so if there's no traffic on the M25 it's one hour. Yeah if there's no traffic on the M25 if you go at 2 AM? That's a good day yeah. It's so bad honestly and then I get it. And the bridge. But mom. the the the br. the the br. the the br. the br. the the bridge. the the bridge. the the bridge. the the the the the the the they. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the their. If there's there's no. If there's no. If there's no. If there's no. If there's no traffic. If there's no traffic. If there's. If there's. If there's no. If there's. If. If. If. If. If. I. I. I. I. I's. I. I. I's. I's. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I'm. there's. there's. there's. there's no. there's no. there's no. there's no. there's no. there's no. there's no. there's no. there's. there. there. there. there. there. I. I. I get it. And the bridge. No, but mom's now got this fear of the bridge and it's like, come on. So she has to go the other way around. Oh, God.

She's scared of the bridge. Because she's scared of the bridge, right? So it's fine, maybe it's because she didn't change. Me and really understand. I didn't know who the bridges, that's one of the main tempers. So I mean it's always like, especially when I had the baby, she was like, you know, if you was closer, I'm like, you're well, I'm not am I. It's been like four years now, whatever it is.

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Yeah. With me, it's a journey, she doesn't like traveling on the motorway, all that comes with it. Does it like at night, tunnel's okay, not bridges. Sure. Yeah, so Billy does get mom and their mom, today. So, Billy does get mom and dad because they've got family out there as like a Christmas present kind of thing because I was away and then Lou was on her own I was like well you know my mom and dad can babysit you went no they can't you're

taking them yeah I was like oh no I'll take it the hell yeah yeah do do the final question Josh I think that with the final question it's quite complicated in the final question to two people isn't it Rob the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th I I th I Rob th I th I th I th I th I th I th I th so tho. Rob's tho. Rob's tho. Rob's tho. Rob's tho. Rob's thin' tho. Rob's to to to to to to to tho. I'm tho. I'm though is the. I'm the. I'm they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they're thin I they're thin is thin thin to thin thin to to to ty. I'm ty. I'm ty. I'm try try try try try try try to they're they're they're they're they're they's quite complicated in the final question to two people isn't it Rob? Well the final question always is the same and Rob's going to do it. Okay so this is a you Sam and Billy for Greg and Big Paul what is the one thing they do parenting wise where you're like that is so annoying I hate it when you do that. Refuse to have cameras that kind of thing you just does your head in the way they parent and the the the the the the their and their and their and they they they they they they their their their they're they're their they're their their their their their to to to to to to to to to to to to their their to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to their. I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I to their. their. I I to to their. I their. I their their their their their their the. I'm their. I'm. I'm their. I'm. I'm the the the te. I'm. I'm toe. toe. toe. toe. I'm toe. then what's the one thing they do where you go, oh they're amazing. I'm so happy this is the person I had kids with. Where do we begin? Start with the positive because we're really interested in the negative.

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He does a school run. That's it. He could be replaced by an Addison Lee tomorrow. He's just like, he's just like, as well, he's like really involved. Involved, yeah. And we juggle life together and he's great. Like he spends a lot of time with the kids and we've never kind of brought in extra help purely because Paul obviously wants to be as round as much as he can. So yeah, that's probably that's that's probably that can. So yeah, that's probably my. Can I have a quick question about the names though?

Because obviously you've got Little Paul named after Big Paul. But then you got Edward. Edward is Big Paul's middle name. Right, okay. Well, well done, technical. Of course. Tell you what, Big Paul thinks a lot of his own names, But I was going to say though because it's that's the thing like because if he's gone Paul Paul as Edward you're going hang on how comes he I know it was first was pull the second ever an option yeah to pull the third so you got

pull pull pull and then pull the second or pull the third people people were saying let's just call him pole to keep it easy easy so what do you have to say big Big Paul and Little Paul every time in the house, or is there a shorthand? Well, it depends what you're asking, isn't it? Yeah, that's it. My bum? Who's that?

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at school. Right, I've got to stop it then. Of course they do. poo at school because I ask him that and he waits so he gets home. So you can wipe his bum? I've got to stop that as I like, oh gosh. Are you still wiping your eldest bum Josh? I am yeah. I hadn't even thought about it till now. Yeah it's good we're all in the habit that's the problem but I'm trying to wean my five-year-old. To be honest Rob it's one of my favorite bits of parenting. Is it?? that? the that that that that that that that that that that th. Is it? Is it? Is it? Is it? Is it? the th. th. th. th. th. th. to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be th. I I I I I I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I the th. I the thi. I the thi. the the the thi. the thi. the thoooooooooombueueue. I to to the to to to be to be to be to be to to a job properly, isn't it? You know you've done it well. You realize it's much easier from that angle. It is, yeah. It is.

So Paul, we've done his positive. What's the negative for Paul? I've forgotten that we're on the final question. We've re-gone back with the envy. I know. I don't know if this counts, but like he's super into sports and all sports, the sports, he's the sports, he's the sports, he's the sports, he's the sports, he's super into sports and all sports actually mainly football. It kind of consumes the house. And I've got to be honest, like every tele. And it actually made me laugh this morning. I could see the little yellow box of the transfer window thing in.

I was like, oh God, I've got eight days of this, however long it is. So it's honest. But it consumes the kids can't watch anything it's just you know yesterday he was at football so it's fine so you know Arsenal so he's really happy. They're doing well at the moment as well yeah it's very consuming and then if his phone is landscape I know that he's on that football manager game I don't know what actually it's called football manager on the phone yeah that game takes over your life yeah right so the sport side of things can be very consuming I have to kind of like sometimes say no come

come on let's stop there he got home last night from the game he sort of walked in it made me jump so I was asleep and then he was like buzzing because obviously he asked Lord one and he was just excited he went well I'm gonna go down he doesn't put the foot while it was really late I'm just like, when does it stop? You've just seen it live. Super fan. Anyway, that's my thing. I think it's only going to get worse if Arsenal were good because he wants to watch them being good. The good news is it probably won't last.

What about you, Billy? What's the negative of Greg and the positive in whatever order you want. Okay, so negative, I'm gonna say, Greg is a nightmare on his phone, like he's constantly like talking on the phone. Oh, like actually talking, not playing game, just always speak. No, no, yeah, like on the phone, like to talk him on the phone. Have you thought about getting him an iPod touch? Yeah, that's a really good idea. For the weekend. And sometimes, that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's, that's that's that's that's, that's that's, that's, that's that's th. thi. that's a th. that's a too. too. thi. thi. too. too. too. too. to me, their. their. their. their. their. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. too. too. too. too. toe. toe. toe. toe. toean. toe at the point where if I'm in the same house as him, I'll call him.

I'm like, oh, I can actually have a conversation with you now because you picture fine up you're listening to me. And then he's like a pacer on the phone. So obviously like now, we've got Margo. And he's done this with in that hand, the baby's here and he's just talking on the phone like constantly like and then Margo's just there like her little heads like bubbling around everyone. He's like, like doing circles, doing circles, doing circles, that is something

that really aggravates me. Have you given Greg one of your radiation stickers that I made you buy? I've put one on his phone. Good. Is it work calls or is he just chatting to mates? Well, it could be anything. It could be work. Yeah. Yeah, it could be anything. He just loves it. He just loves it. You know like sometimes, even like on a Sunday morning you wouldn't always necessarily bring your best mate up for a trip. No. But he's on the phone. It would be weird. Yeah.

No, he wants to know like what his friends done last night where they've been like. It's quite old school. If my friend phoned me to ask me what I've done last night I would find that weird. Yeah. Yeah, no. And how do you have the energy. the energy. th. thap. th. tha. tha. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. to have that. that. that. that. that. thathea. tho. tho. thoes. thoes. that. thoes. thoes. thoes. thoes. thoes. thoes. thoom's thoom's thoom's thoes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. th. the phone like that. That's voice notes. We send each other voice notes and then reply when you get a chance to reply. Oh Greg loves a phone call and like sometimes you know you think like a text would settle that. Yeah and is he holding the phone or has he got airpods in? Holding the phone. Hold in it. Yeah. So old school. You know what? I'm with him on a text would settle that. I'll text. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thinks thinks thinks thinks thinks thinks thinks thinks thinks thi would thi. thinks thinks thinks thinks thinks thinks thinks thinks thinks thinks thinks thinks thinks th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thinks. thinks. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thia. thiia. thia. thia. thia. theea. thia. thia. tha. th on a text would settle that. I'll text the person you're like, but you go if I ring them I know straight away that they've got it. You could text someone it could take an hour.

Yeah. I prefer ringing but I'm not on the phone that much. But if I am I've got my headphones in chatting and I can do stuff. I'm unloading the dishwasher. Sometimes I'm like yeah I'm doing two things here. I'm talking to yeah I'm busy. Yeah. I didn't realize it's like a subconscious power play in it to like unload a dishwasher when I'm talking to someone. How about that radio Oxford? I'm unloading the dishwasher. And then what about the positive for Greg? It's really funny. You know Smum said about the school run with Cole'm really grateful Greg does the morning drop off as well, which he's like really helpful. But other than the school drop off. Greg's very like he could be like a really fun dad like him get up and go like nothing. You know like as a mom like you sort of fuss a bit more before you leave the house that you're getting this ready getting it. Greg will just be like come on this phone. He'll just be like come on this going he he's he's he's just he's just he's just he's just he's just he's just he's just he's just he's just he's just he's just he's just he's just he's just he's just. He's just. He's just. to just. to just. to just. he's just he's just he's just he's just he's just he. he. he's just the the he's just he. he. he. he. he. the the the the their. their. He's just the the the the the their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. He's just their. He's just their. He's just their. He's just their. He's just their. He's just their. He's just their. their. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. th. th. the, he's just just the. the. the. the. the. the. the, he's very. the. the, he's just the. the. take the kids out for the day and do stuff with them and I mean obviously now with Margot,

he's different, with nearly enough, he'll like, take them to like the caravan for the weekend, you know, like, he's quite get up and go with them. And he'll lead it, he won't be like, he'd be like, the playdate, it wouldn't bother him. He's on the phone, don't give a shit. He's on the phone, he's doing what you want, yeah. He hasn't snacked, he's pacing up and down.

Yeah, get him through his 9,000 minutes a month. Yeah, I've actually actually, that's actually, that's actually, that's actually, that's actually, th. That's. That's. That's. Yeah, th. That's. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the the tho' the the phone. the the the the the phone. He's the phone. He's the phone. He's the phone. He's the phone. He's on. He's on. He's on. He's on. He's the phone. He's the phone. He's the phone. He's the phone. He's the phone. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's th. He's th. He's th. He's th. He's th. He's on. the the the th. the the the the the the th. the the phone. the the thethey want. Oh brilliant, this has been absolutely amazing. Thanks so much for doing it. Yeah, I loved it. Thanks so much for talking to us. Thanks guys. Thank you. And your podcast, where can we download? Sam and Billy's show? So yeah, anywhere and on YouTube but anywhere you get your podcast? Brilliant. And when's the mummy diaries now because it was mommy diaries when it was me and ma'am. Now it's then changed to the family diaries. So that starts all Sunday the 5th of Feb is the baby special at 730 on ITBB and then we're back again in the new year every Wednesday at 9. Yeah and I want a lie on that wire that you've got hanging.

Yes. All you're short in the wire. Brilliant. Thanks so much. Thanks so much. Thanks guys. It's been a pleasure. Cheers guys. Bye-bye.

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to them? At least with Philip Perry, you weren't worried about mixing the names up for 90 minutes. Yeah, fair enough. 90 minutes. It was 50 minutes. We have no to do it down from 90 minutes. 90? Where did that come from? Because there was so much football chat. I really enjoyed that. I think sometimes the sort of reality stars from Towing all that or wherever it is they get a little bit of a bad rep because of the way they're edited on shows and essentially they're working-class people that have found an outlet and they just sort of get sometimes a bit of a harsh what is their actual sort of you know thing they do but I think they're both too quite switched on people that really love their kids and I find quite refreshing to have the insight into their life and they're quite level-headed about the potential pressures on their kids

from the TV show but like Sam's done she's got actually it's not working for us we're gonna stop now yeah it's easy to judge when you're not there but if everyone's happy and enjoying it and so does Greg then they're like the the the the the the the the they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they're like they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they they they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they they they're they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're to th. thy. they're the. they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're do it if you're enjoying it and got these amazing things. Rob Rob what? Don't do that to me. Don't do that to me. I need this. Need what? Don't stop? Don't stop. Don't stop. Don't stop. Don't stop. Don't stop. Don't stop. Don't stop. Don't stop. I feel like I'm letting too much into the family. I need. You do. Don't. Don't. Don't. Don't. Don't. Don't. Don't. Don't. Don't. Don't. Don't. Don't. Don't. Don't. Don't. Don't. Don't. Don't. Don't. Don't. Don't. Don't. Don't. Don't. Don't. Don't. Don't. Don't. Don't. Don't. Don't. Don't. Don't. Don't. Don't do. Don't do. Don't. Don't. Don't. Don't. Don't. Don't. Don't. Don't do. Don't do. Don't do. Don't. Don't. Don't. Don't. Don't. Don't. Don't. Don't. Don't. Don't. Don't. Don't. Don't. Don't. Don't. Don't. Don't. Don't. Don't. Don't. Don't. Don't. Don't. Don't. Don't. Don't. Don't. Don't. Don't. Don't. Don't. Don't. Don't. Don't. Do. Don't. Do. Do. Don't. Do. Do. Don't. Do. Do. Do. Do. Do. Don't th. Don't to to to th. to th. th. th. th. Don't. Don't. Don't that what you keep asking about the cost of the hotels for the tour? Are you skin? Have you got some secret advice? Yeah. He keeps buying old blur guitars. It's a football sticker album, so I've gone too deep. Just spend 900 pounds on an Argyle away shirt. Right, we'll be back on Tuesday if Rob's still with us.

Do you know it'll be quite a funny like sitcom would be like two super famous rich people that are obsessed with something like Plymouth shirts and they keep bidding for them on eBay but they're going from an exorder amount of money because they're both like they're bidding against each other. And they hate each other. Oh that'd be great but no I'm not going to stop doing this Josh. I enjoy it. I do do too too too too too too th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm too th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm tho. I'm tho. I'm not thi. tho. I'm tho. I'll to to to to to to to to to to tho. tho. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. theeea. to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to theeeei thtoo well. I'm looking forward to seeing the mummy diary. The family diary is now. We'll be back on Tuesday. Bye.

We'll see you then. Goodbye.