Parenting Hell with Rob Beckett and Josh Widdicombe - S7 EP10: Mike Birbiglia

Episode Date: August 25, 2023

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Yeah, because you have to come through the tunnel and then round. Through the tunnel, through the bloody tunnel. Get there. He runs off. He's of a park, you're just on the swings. Yeah, exactly. So he just runs off. So was it an adult, was it a kid's thing as well? Like everyone's day-time? Adults party with kids there? In a daytime? Yeah. Picnic? Picnic. Picnic? I don't like picnics. No, what's your problem? There was no no food, no, it was like afternoons, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, their, their, their, their, their, their, was like, was like, was like, was like, was like, was like, was like, was like, was like, was like, was like, was like, was like, was like, was like, was like, was like, was, was, was, was, was, they, they, they, was, was, was like, was like, their, was like, was like, their, their, was like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their the a tea. Yeah. Oh what was I doing? What's the hub of the party? I was a load of adults stood around having Proseco and cake. Right, blankets? Blankets. No, I don't think so maybe. Maybe blankets. People were sat down.

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Of course, because it's boring. Yeah. Your driving's boring. Also, I bet you sort of build up to it as well. Just a bit like, oh, any anything going on? Any emails? Any emails? Is it? Should you have a conversation? Should you have a conversation? I hate it though, I feel like I failed when I say it like that. If you say something, then you go, oh, shouldn't. Because also the demand for, it's like when my parents understandably and I do it, you know, they'd go, should we turn the TV off and have a conversation? You know, no dad. But also, you're not as the the the, the wire wasn't around though, so I was saying you're not as interesting as

a doll's house party. Who is? Who is? Who is? Yeah, at the moment, a conversation is called for. I mean, I realize that's what we... But you just don't have anything to Yeah, Plymouth has started the season. Well, you can't have a conversation if you say heck let's have a conversation. No, it's too awkward. It's game over. Do you think the panel show is dead? I think it's a sleeping giant? Yeah. Hopefully.

Yeah. Right. Mike Berbiglia is one of our cool American comedians we get on these days. Yeah, no, so we've got a cool American guy from across the pond. Across the bloody pond, eh? He's very like... And we don't mean the Thames, we don't mean Southeast London. But he's one of them clever comics, isn't he? He sort of weaves it in. He weaves it in, like you. you're more like babiglia than me. I was thinking this the other day. If I'm with you, I feel like I am basically the world's most alternative comedian. And if I'm with Acaster, I feel like I'm the world's

biggest hack. Which am I? Neither? Yeah. Do you know what you are? That's life. You're nothing. I'm nothing. You're nothing. As soon as we label ourselves, the ego's in control. Just be. This is my my the world. That's the world. That's the world, my my b my b my b my b my b my b my b my b my b my b my b my b my b my b bi bi bi bi bi bi bi bi bi bi bi bi bi bi bi bi bi bi bi bi bi. You the world. You're the world. You're the world. You're the world. You're the world. You're the world. You're the world. You're the world. You're the world. I'm the world. I'm the world. I'm the world. I'm the world. I'm the world. I the world. I the world. I the world. I the world. That's the world. That's the world. That's the world. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You're the world. You're th. You're th. You're th. You're th. You're th. You're th. You're th. You're th. You're th. You're th. You're th. You're th. You're th. You're the th. You're th. You're we label ourselves, the ego's in control. Just be. This is my Bermude Gia. By the way, I found your podcast through Jimmy Carr, who I'm only assuming you were maybe friends with him. I called him and I said, I'm coming to London and Edinburgh with my old man in the pool show. What should I consider trying to be on? And he said that your podcast is the best podcast. Oh, that's no use of him. He would be right.

How do you know Jimmy from back in the day on the circuit or from him going to America to make it? Jimmy and I have known each other from doing the just for left Comedy Festival in Montreal for about 15 years. As a matter of fact in 2019 or 18 I won comedian of the year or whatever the thing is there and he presented the award to me. Oh wow. It was very funny because you know Jimmy of course he burns you at every turn. Yeah and so he said I'm paraphrasing but he goes Mike is like a cross between Woody Allen and Bill Cosby, the worst part.

You know what I mean? Like, it's just like... Sounds like Jimmy. I did a Netflix special that was a Broadway show called The New One, the New One, the New one, because it was all about how the new one being the new baby and how I had a child, even though my whole life I swore I would never the the the the the the th th, I would would th, I would th, I would never th, I would never th, I would never thi to never to never to never the to never the to never to never the their I would their, their, their, their, their, thi, their, their, their, the worst, the worst, the worst, the the the tho, thi, the worst, the worst, the worst, the worst, the worst, the worst, the worst, the the worst, the the the the the the worst, the how the new one being the new baby and how I had a child even though my whole life I swore I would never have a child. Really? So this Netflix special is called the new one and it's all about all the reasons why I'm never going to have a child and then about how I had a

child and why I was right and then ultimately why I was wrong and it becomes emotional at the end and I owe a huge debt to to to to th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thin th. thin thin thin thin thin thin thi thin thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm thi. I thi. I thi. I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm thin thin. I'm thin. I'm theee. I'm theeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeean. thin. I'm the. I'm thin. I'm the. I'm th end. And I owe a huge debt to Jimmy because I see him every few years in Montreal Festival and he always gives me notes and thoughts and he always has like 10 tags for jokes and things like that. But with that one, particularly, he helped me kind of find the emotional center, which he's not known for. No. I wouldn't say if you'd given me a hundred guesses at who'd helped you find your emotional center I'd have ever gone with Jimmy Carr. That's why he hasn't found it, he's too busy finding other people's. He hasn't nailed his one down yet. I wasn't putting down to the emotions guy. No, no, you'd never guess and

but he, you know there's this part of the show, I don't want to spoil it, but it's not the ending of the show, but it's towards the ending of the show. Where I'm having like a real kind of dark night of the soul and struggling. It's my daughter's was about 13 months old and I had the flu and I was on the road, and it was like everything was so awful, you know. And I had this moment where I thought, again, the darkest moment where I just thought, I get why dads leave. I'm comfortable saying it because I'm not going to do it, but I get it. And he kind of talked me through, if you watch on Netflix, you'll see like just the ins and out of talking through that because obviously it's a very fraught discussion point. Yeah, of course, that's do you that's, that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's why that's why that's why that's why that's why that's why that's why that's why the the that's why the that's why that's why that's why that's why that's why that's why that's why that's why that's why that's why that's why that's why that's why that's why that's why that's why that's why that's why that's why that's why that's why that's why why that's why why why that's why that's why that's why that's why that's why that's why that's why that's why that's that's that's the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the they through that because obviously it's a very fraught discussion point. Yeah, of course, that's dominates your life, doesn't it?

If you've got kids or you haven't got kids, why haven't you, when you're having them, it's like, you can't go to any family function about someone questioning you when you're about 25, 26, that right, Mike? My daughter's eight years old. Eight years old, yeah. We're bringing her over to Edinburgh and then London. As a matter of fact, last June, I was doing an early version of the show that I'm touring with now, the old man in the pool, at the Leic of my life. Really? It's amazing in it especially saying it in London I suppose as well Matilda it's such a British thing. Yes I mean this is where I have no jokes it's just sentiment it's

like seeing your daughter experience that much joy for that much time in a row you cannot put a price tag on. I mean we did, it's 200 bucks a ticket. But... Good stuff. It's a pricey ticket only for the wealthy. I mean I'll try and think of a more relatable suggestion but... But if you want to be happy with your children you need to be rich basically in the West London. Yeah, 200 bucks a pop a day. That's what it is. Not including food. We're going to go again. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. the the the the the the the the the to to to to to to the to to the th. th. th. Good. Good. Good. Good. Good. Good. Good. Good. Good. Good. Good. Good. Good. Good. Good. Good. Good. Good. Good. Good. Good. Good. Good. Good. Good. Good. Good. Good. Good. Good. Good. Good. Good. Good. Good. Good. Good. Good. Good. Good. Good. Good. Good. Good. Good. Good. Good. Good. Good. Good. Good. Good. Good. Good. Good. Good. Good. Good. Good. Good. Good. Good. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the tttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttoday. Good. Good. Good. Good., that's what it is. Not including food. We're going to go again. Yeah, you should. I'm looking at your runs here so you're doing August the 22nd, 27th in Edinburgh. Then you're doing September the 12th to October the 7th in London. Josh, why are you patronizing me like this? What? We've just met. Do you know what I'm trying to kind the the the to kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind. to kind. to kind. to kind. to kind. to kind. to kind. their. the their. their. their. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. I'm, their. I'm their. I'm their. I'm their. I'm to. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. to. I'm. I'm. I'm. tod. today. to. to. to. to. the. the. the. the. the. trying to do? I'm trying to kind of get your tour tickets and dates out

in a subtle way as if it's conversation. What are you going to be doing with your days when you're obviously playing the evenings in the Windom's theatre from September the 20th? How many? many nights off with that? Like how does it work? I think I do eight shows a week for four weeks September through October 7. Yeah you don't patronize me I know that mate. And then my days are free so if you guys needed a babysitter I'm I'm around. Really? Okay we could be up. My daughter's eight and actually as a matter of fact she's gonna be there for all of Edinburgh and then she'll be there for one of the four weeks in London. Any. Any th. Any th. A th. A th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. to th. to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to thi. to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. th. th. And, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the thee theee thee the an the the the th she'll be there for one of the four weeks in London. Any suggestions you have for shows or anything to see, well again we brought her London last year and she just loved it, like loved every second of it.

Oh wow yeah and I sent you some suggestions over. So what about her school though? When's she back at school? You're home school in September. Yeah, yeah, so that's when she goes back. What a fun summer though. Yeah it's funny like I was looking on your Instagram at the, is it called the pile? There's like a video you have like your living room. Yeah that was a bad time in our life. But it's so funny because that's if you watch my special the new one it's just like that. There's a moment where I say that morning my wife gave birth to our daughter Una, which means one, as in we're only having one, and then as I say it, there's toys that come down from the ceiling,

like toys and clothing and car seats, and they all fall from the ceiling of the theater, and so I'm surrounded by just crap, right? And it's just like that pile in your video on your Instagram where it's like all of a sudden your life is inhabited by it's no longer your apartment. It's no longer your flat, your house. It's not Japanese knotweed. How long did it take you to make peace with that? Like as someone who didn't in their head was ever going to have kids? Suddenly... I think like next year? peace with that. Like as someone who didn't in their head was ever going to have kids, suddenly...

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like my dad is garbage you know what I mean and when I was a kid in the 80s no one listened to children like th. like th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th the the the theat the the th theat theat the. the. the. the. th. th th th th th th th th like th like th like th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th. th. they the the to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to tole tol. You know what I mean? And when I was a kid in the 80s, no one listened to children. Like we said that, but nobody, my dad would be like, is someone talking? You know what I mean? But now, everyone listens to children. So she's going to be like, my dad is garbage. She's so brave and fierce.

How can I amplify her voice? Well yeah, that is a totally different way bringing them up now. So how old are you when you decided you wanted kids in and was there a moment that not to ruin if it's in the show? My late 30s. Yeah, I'm 45 now and she's 8, so yeah, it was around that time. So what would the 28-year-old might be saying about kids? Oh my the literally my first joke that worked you know was in my early 20s. I said I don't want to have kids until I'm sure that nothing else good can happen in my life. And it was one of those jokes where it wasn't even a joke it was just something I said to my friend in conversation. They're like you should do that as a joke and I would do it. People. And it. And it. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. the the th. the the the the th. they. they. they. they. they. they. Like, their. Like, they. their. Like, their. Like, their. Like, their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. t. t. ttttttttttoo. tttoo. tttttoo. ttoo. tttoo. ttoo. ttoo. tttttoo. to my friend in conversation they're like you should do that as a joke and I would do it and it would people would light

up because young you know in your 20s you're just like no I'm not doing this it's inconceivable and then I don't know I turned at a certain point when it was just something that was just really important to Jenny and there's just a thing that happens where it's the thing that happens where th. thi. thi. thi. thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. that that that that that that that that that that that that that thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi thi thi thi thi thi thin thin thin thin thin thin thin you thin you thin you the you're the you're the the. you're their theeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee. you're you're you're the this on this podcast all the time, which is it's hard to not sound like a cliche when you say that there's a certain thing that happens when you have a child where your aperture opens and you just go, oh, there's this much stuff in life, you know what I mean? Yeah. And that's my experience of it. And then you just go, it's inconceivable that you're, it's inconce. It's inconce. It's inconce. It's inconce. It's inconce. It's inconce, it's inconce, it's inconce, it's inconce, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that that that that that's that's that's that's that that that that that that that that that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's a a that's a that's a that's a that's a that's a that's a thi, thi, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, thi. thi. that's a thi. that's a that's a that's a that's a that's a that's a ever not have a child. I think you sort of most like you spend so long, you're sort of so self-obsessed when you're younger, it's like you're just staring in the mirror the whole time and it's like when the kids come along, they like, literally pull you around and turn you around to face

the other way and you're like, oh fucking L. Yeah, there kid a lot. Yeah, I think that's pretty accurate. I think I definitely get charged with being the parent who gets the fun version of everything. But not the challenging part of everything. Yeah, I'm a fun parent, play guitar, play music, I bring Una to the shows, she loves coming to the shows and being backstage and everything. Like we did the show at Lincoln Center which was kind of crazy and then like, while the show is going on, Jen took her to the Nutcracker which is at Lincoln Center. It was just like, I mean the truth is

like Jenny is just the most amazing mother and I try so hard to just be anything at all. I have this joke this this this this this thuuuuuuuuuuuu c. this this this this this thuuu. th. thu. thus. thus thus thus thus thus thus thus thus thus thus thus thus thus thus. the thi. I thus. I th. I tooes. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I toe. I toe. I th. I toe. I toe. I toe. I toe. I toe. I to. I to. I to. I to. I to. to. to. to. I to. to. I to. I to. I to. I to. I to. I to. I to. I to. I to. I to. I to. I to. I th. I th. I try so hard to just be anything at all. Like I have this joke in the new one where I say, and this is of course I wrote this, Uno is like a year old, but I go, my wife and daughter love each other so much and I'm there too. Being a dad is just being like this pudgy milkless vice president of the family, just huge title no power also overseas Congress. So you trouble a lot at work so does Jenny sort of take the sort of lead with the child care then in that regard because she you're away

a lot or you balance it so it's only over a couple of weeks? I would say like I would describe it as I'm very very present when I'm here, and then when I'm not, I feel terrible. You know, I'm in Oklahoma and my wife and daughter are here. I mean, that honestly is one of the reticence I had when I was having a child in the first place was always like, I'd perform in every city, you know what I'm sometimes I perform in 115 cities in a year. And some of them aren't even cities. They're just an apple bees with a dream. You know what I mean?

I've tried to curb that quite a bit. Like I really, like even London for example, it's like I'm, I'm going to Edinburgh for 10 days and I'm bringing the family. Yeah, that'll be a. But Oklahoma for a Friday night. Yes, exactly. Not as much going on. How many they won't get in the car? So I've been trying to do that. Even like last year I did Berkeley, California for a month and I've just tried to have longer runs places where they can come and spend time. Do you do a lot of face timing, yeah. So what's your rule on face timing? Because I've got a specific rule when I'm away, and I was away in Australia for like five weeks.

My rule is, I don't face time them unless they ask to see me. Oh. And they can face me is bliss not be thinking of me and stuff like that and it cuts through and I find it upsets what's happening at home where if it's up to them, then they call me and then I speak to them, but like I feel like if I ring home, it's quite selfish on my behalf because they're just getting on with it. But thing. Like, I wonder if, as your kids grow older, it's less that they'll be thrown by you face-timing. Yeah, I know, I don't know, maybe it's some being too strict with me, but I find when I do ring, they kick off a little bit,

because it's like, oh, dad's it. And it gives them like more swaying, I having to hang up and you're thinking, of course, absolutely. That's gone fucking guile. I absolutely destroyed it. My recent crisis in parenting has to do with, that when your child is eight, they're more like a person. Like early on, it's like they're just like an animated bag of rice. And then a certain point they're like a talking bird and you go oh I have to teach them something and then you're like oh I don't know anything I could do a 10 minute

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And I had folks like Jimmy Carr on and Ashling B. and Nishkumar and a handful of folks who you might know. And we work out jokes in real time. And so these are like cards behind me that each have the name of a joke. So one of them says keeping up with the dead Joneses. One of them is called Death by Coconut. That's um... What's death by coconut? I read about a woman who died from a coconut falling on her head, which is the ultimate

example of she did not see that one coming. But it's like honestly it's like a run of jokes about just all these different perverse ways where people die in these freakish accidents and ways. Because the show is all about death and life and mortality in all the ways in which basically it can all go in a moment. Honestly, the old man in the pool is like 90 jokes about death that make people laugh and then hopefully feel something at the end. Like that's the goal of the show. Do you talk to your daughter about death? My daughter's five and we're entering that stage, so you must be quite heavily in that kind of stuff. Yeah, it's fascinating because she read Harry Potter thi and then we watched the first Harry Potter and she, it was too, and th.... And, the th.. And, th. And, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, their, their, their, their, thi, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, the the the the the the the the the the the the th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, that, tho, tho, tho, tho. So, tho. So, thoo. So, thooo. So, thoo. So, their, their, their, that, the first Harry Potter and a year or two ago we tried watching the first Harry Potter and she it was too scary. And now it's

interesting like darker scarier things we find are easier and more palatable from books than they are from movies because there are a little bit more of conversation starters in the sense that I think movies can be kind of sensory overload yeah and so I think like that's actually led into a lot of like conversations about yeah about death and but challenging stuff I had a joke I wrote the other day about how Jenny said to me she goes at some point we're gonna have to talk to Una about sex and I go yeah I, I thought maybe you

and I could have sex with each other and then we could do a Q&A. Because I have a lot of questions. For the working it out show. It's a good one. Thanks. I find that with the scary stuff that sometimes my daughter doesn't give a shit about death. So there'll be things where you think she'll watch maybe maybe maybe maybe maybe tha tha that that that that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's daughter doesn't give a shit about death. So there'll be things where you think, she'll watch a David Attenborough or something,

and she'll go, yeah, that's just an animal that eats another animal, that's fine. And you're like, I find that really upsetting myself. And then we try to read James with the Giant Peach. Have you read James the Giant Peach. first page, James's parents are eaten by a escaped hippo. Oh my god, fairy tales are very dark. And I laughed and my daughter's like, that's awful. Why is that funny? And I'm like, I can't really explain why it's funny. That his parents are eaten by hippo's.

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Okay. Yeah. And 159 is you do a 69 on the shelf when I'm a mottom. Sorry. Oh, Mabel's pointing out that in America it's called Mr. Softy. Okay, that made it even ruder. Okay. They're called Mr. Softies. Okay.

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that invented the Mr. Whippie. Wait, let's get us back on track. So with the thirty nine-nine. My question is, do you both live in London? Yeah. I've just, well Josh does, I've just moved out sort of like the edge of London. So it's sort of technical London, but not. Shall I send you an invitation to opening night at the Windom's? Is that the kind of thing you enjoy? Oh, yeah, absolutely.

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Savings may vary, eligibility and member terms apply. We'll do that. Can I ask you about sleep. I'm desperate to talk to you about sleep problems. Because normally we talked to people about their children's sleep problem. Yeah, I talked about this years ago. I did it. My first solo show in 2008 was called Sleepwalk with me. And I wrote a book that was loosely based on it.

I wrote a feature film. This American Life story. And because I have a serious sleep walking disorder that was undiagnosed, that was since diagnosed. I jumped through a second-story window of a LaQuinta Inn in Walla Walla Washington on tour. There's so many words I don't understand Mike of this story so far. Yeah, when I say, okay, Walla Walla Washington is a town. Let me just go back to what the sleep thing is first, the red. Remem sleep behavior disorder which is a sleepwalking, a very, a very, a very, a very, a very, a very, a very, a very, a very, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, th. I'm, th. I'm, th. I'm, th. I'm, th. I'm, th. I, th. I, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, thi. It's, thi. It's, thi. I'm thi. I'm thiauu. I'm thiaugh, thi. I'm, thi. I'm, thi. I'm,thing is first, the REMS sleep behavior disorder, which is a sleep walking, a very rare sleep disorder. It's just a random thing where people have a dopamine deficiency, which is the chemical that's released from your brain into your body when you fall

sleep that paralyzes your body so that you don't do what's in your brain while you're sleeping. Okay. So people who have this sometimes act out their dreams. Turns out I had a dream that there was a guided missile headed towards my motel room. And then there's this military personnel in the room with me and I jump out of bed. This is 20 years ago. I go what's the plan and they say the missile coordinates are set on you. I decide in the dream and then it turns out it was in my life to jump out my window so as to detonate outside the window for the sake of the platoon with me. I'm sorry I'm laughing I'm sorry. There's a lot of laughter when I tell the story it's absurd. It's just an

outrageous thing. It's like one of those rare moments in your life where in retrospect you're like what the hell at the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the.. the. the. the. the. the. I. I is. I. I. I. I. I. I. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. time. time. time. time. time. time. time. the. is. the. the. is. the. the. the. the. I's is. the. the. It's just an outrageous thing. It's like one of those rare moments in your life where in retrospect you're like, what the hell at the time you're like, do you vividly remember this dream? Like is it a really, yeah? So, so, so it's funny. I actually just announced yesterday that I'm going back to Walla Walla Washington in January to do a show there because I have not been back since. It's a very small town, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, they, th. And, th. And, th. And, they, th. And, th. And, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, the, the, the, the, the, they, the, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, th. So, th. So, th. So, thi, thi, thi, they. So, is, they. they. to. to. to. to. to. they. to. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. to, a show there. Because I have not been back since. It's a very small town in Washington State and the Pacific Northwest of the United States. So I jumped through the window and it threw, like the Incredible Hulk. Oh my gosh. And I say that because that's how I described it at the emergency room.

I had to basically say, you know the incredible Hulk how he jumps through windows and walls, that's like me. And I had to explain it three times. The receptionist, the nurse, the doctor, I'm the Hulk, I'm the Hulk. And one of the guys goes, no, you're Bruce Banner. And I was like, point taken, nerd. And so they put 33 stitches in my legs. And at one point the doctor said, you know, you should be dead. And I said, no, you should. I zing them because I'm a comedian. And then I flew back to New York and I did what I should have done what. I did what I should have done in the first place. I flew back to New York and I went to a doctor who specializes in sleep walking disorders. I was diagnosed with this, again, rare thing

called REM sleep behavior disorder. So now when I go to bed at night, I take medication. I sleep in a sleeping bag up to my neck and I zip it up and I wear mittens so I can't open the sleeping bag. And it's a true story. It's one of these things that I mentioned in all my specials because it's one of those things you can't get around and you just go like, well. And had anything happened before? Like, that was such a big event, like you jumped out the window. But had you had little mishaps, like before that?

So I had, it started out years before, when I started having this recurring dream that there was like a hovering insect like jackal in my bedroom, and I would jump on the bed and I would say to my girlfriend at the time there's a jackal in the room and then eventually she was said there's no jackal go to bed and I would say okay and I would go to bed knowing there was a jackal and and then one time it actually got worse I had a dream that I was in the Olympics for some kind of arbitrary event like dust bustering and they toled th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the. the. the. I would the the the the. I would the. I would the the their their their their their their their their their their their the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the. I would the. I would theeeeeeeeeeeeeeean. thean. thean. theeeeeeeeean. theeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee. the Olympics for some kind of arbitrary event like dust bustering and they told me I got a third place and I stood up on the third place podium at the Olympics and I move over to second place they say actually we reconsidered you got second place I move to the second place podium I'm feeling

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when you have a kid and your sleep's completely messed up and stuff? Yeah, it's funny like I, that was actually one of the reasons why and everyone had a child. I always thought like, well, I'm not gonna be able to be up all the way through the night because I take medication, I'm in the sleeping bag and all this stuff. And it was definitely like I was a thaaaa. tha. tha. tha. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. I was a thi. I was a thi. I was a thi. I was a thi. I was a thi. I was a thi. I was a that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's. I'm that's. I'm that's. I'm that's. I'm that's. I'm that's. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. really challenging and it was really challenging on Jenny my wife like and I you know I sympathize with her a lot that I that I was that I was not able to do the things that most parents and dads are able to do in the you know that first year.

Yeah also as well because like and it's not even because you like I'll just get on with it kind of thing she'd be worried going well if it kicks off again and you've got the baby it's dangerous isn't it really it's not just about like oh you do your turn it's like if you're left alone and it's not fair on you or the baby no absolutely not on Jenny either but it's safer if Jenny's rather than you they must be so worried about what I'd do. No the the the the the the the th. No th. No th. No th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm thin. I'm to to to to to to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be. I to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be toe. I. I te. te. te. te. te. te. toe. toe. toe. toe. to to to be the. th no unfortunately I've been I haven't had a sleepwalking in it's in about six years and I'm trying to wean myself off the drug you know the medication the medication not out yeah or is it because I I wish I were not on this medication I mean I really desperately wish but it was it's one of those things where it's like you know I have a bad case of the jumping out the windows. Like I have to take it. And is there any chance, like is it a genetic or anything? Are you watching to make sure your daughter's sleeping all right and stuff or do you know?

I think we're yeah, we're hyper aware of her sleep and and and I'm just hoping it's like an anomaly and this thing that I, that is that is that is that is that is that is that is that is that is just th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I the the the the the the their their their their they. I they. I they. I they. I they. I they. I they. I they. I they. I, I they. I th. I, I th. I th. I th. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I'm, I'm th. I have th. I have th. I have th. I have. I have. I have. I have. I have. I have. I have. I have. I have. I have. I have th. I have th. I have th. I have th. I have th. I'm just hoping it's like an anomaly and this thing that I, that is just a one-off thing. I honestly, it's one of those things where recently my doctor said to me, my sleep doctor, who's like one of the top people in this field said, I don't even know if what you have is REM sleep behavior disorder because it's such a new field of study, sleep medicine, that things that these different diagnoses are changing all the time and people don't know even the doctors don't know for sure what some of these things are. I do think you have more exciting dreams than you're younger as well though.

I feel like that's probably true. Yeah, like now I'm like, it seems like a lot of effort to think of a missile on it when you're having a dream. My sort of dreams are like, oh, sort of fell over last night and you shag the bloke from next door. You get up and go work. Yeah. I recently, I've had to take the medication and so I never looked at the side effects until like a week ago. And I thought that the was like, it was like depression, like poor motor skills and loss of memory. And I thought, oh, I just thought that was my personality.

It's like that moment your life where you're, it's that moment your life where you realize that your personality is side effects. So obviously you tore a lot, so in your bag you have to put your sleeping bag in your mittens every time you tour a lot, so in your bag you have to put your sleeping bag in your mittens every time you travel. Absolutely true. And not only that, I have to often explain at hotels why I need to stay on the first floor. Oh, wow. So you've always got a shit view wherever you go. Yeah, it's so funny because a lot of times they'll be on the presidential suite. And I'm like, no, no, no, no, th. th. th. th. th. So th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. th. thi. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. to. to. to. to. to. to. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. the. the. the. to. th. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. a lot of times they'll be on the side effect. We put you in the presidential suite and I'm like, no, no, put me in the shittiest from you have. The last thing you want is the presidential suite, that's going to be the main aim, isn't

it? Yeah, exactly. Exactly. Like, what happens when you're asleep to take off your mittens. Precisely that. So, so a lot of times, like one way to think about all this stuff, it's kind of a condom on top of a birth control pill. You know what I mean?

Like it's like the, it's like the, it's like the mittens are in case the drugs don't true, drugs, in thrugs, in thrugs, in that you don't get pregnant yeah absolutely no chance of 69 are in those minutes like oh yeah yeah I'm not sure that mr. mr. softy that's mr. softy in his sack go to bed well just mr. joffi in his sack go to bed well just just the duve over my head but I just... Well, that's just how you feel about your life. He's got you worked out quick, Josh. Absolutely hit the nail on the head there. Oh, yeah.

Oh, yeah, no, that is just our feeling. Is it not just... So, I know I'm going into the wrong thing here, but are the mittens inside, are the mittens inside the sleeping bag? Yeah, that's the idea. The idea is that you're zipped up. And so if you have mittens on inside, you can't really unzip until you wake up properly in the morning and then you take them off and all that kind of stuff. So if you need a drink of water or anything, it's an absolute faf. Yes.

I wouldn't recommend having this serious disorder. Yeah, it's like you're criticizing him for a minute. I'm just interested. It is a good point, actually. I know, I know. I know, I know, I know. I know what I know. I know what I know. I know, I know what I know.

I know what I'm just interested in a way different people sleep. There we go. I know, I know, but yeah, I'm just interested. I'm just interested in a way different people sleep. There we go. What, it has brought us to the end of what I would describe as a broad conversation covering a variety of topics, many of them not parenting. But I've enjoyed it though. Yeah, I thought it's, I think it's been lovely and wide ranging. Now, one of the topics I covered was that you are playing Edinburgh the 22nd and 27th of August.

Oh wow. London the 12th of the 7th, 12th of September the 7th of October. And then you're doing America. And we've got we've got American listeners, Portland, Walla Walla. Yes. Wala does feel. So is that feels like the odd the odd the odd the odd the odd the odd the odd the odd the odd the odd the odd the odd the odd the odd the odd Walla Walla, that feels like the odd one out there, is that just as a kind of, I've got to get this out of my system kind of situation. Yeah, you can see, you can see in my Instagram tiles, there's that artwork in Walla

because I was staying at La Quinta Inn and so we created artwork that says Labberbiglia in and then it's it's all enshrouded in a broken window, broken glass window. Amazing. Oh lovely. I haven't been back since I jumped through the window. I'm actually very curious to see if I have PTSD from it. Oh God, well keep it closed. The Portland gig might not happen. Are you staying in the place? I'm not, no, no, I can't, I couldn't possibly. Although there is a plaque there next to the room. Is that? Yeah, there's a plaque that says 20 years ago, Mike Berbeglia, jumped through the seconds for this room,

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And a lot of older folks really enjoy these shows. Now I take a lot of pride in that. And then the other thing is that I've never been to Edinburgh. I'm very excited because people have all... Awesome the same the same the same the same to say say say say say say say say say say say say say the same they they they say they say they they say they they they they they they they they they they to they to to th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I thi. I thi. I thi. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. th. thi thi to to to thi thi to thi to to thi to thi thi thi thi to thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi. I thi then the other thing is that I've never been to Edinburgh. I'm very excited because people have always said that. It's amazing. They basically say, you write what you're doing is an Edinburgh show. And I always say, I've heard that, but I've never even been there. And so if people want to know the type of show it is, it's a series of stories that add up to a single story and has a ton of jokes and I I I I I I I tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho that's a the that's a tho. It's tho. It's that's that's that's that's that's basically basically that's that's that's that's that. It's that is that is that is that is that. that. that. that. that. that. It's that. It's that. It's that. that. that. that that that that that that that that that that that that that the that the that the that that the that that that that that that that that that that up to a single story and has a ton of jokes and I think people will dig it. And what's the one about you deciding to have a child that's on Netflix?

Because I'm sure I listen to some. Yeah, that one's called the new one. The new one. Yeah, Mike Berbiglia, the new one. And yeah, that one is very, in the sense that a lot of it has to do with mortality and realizing, recognizing my own mortality and realizing that a lot of what I'm trying to live for is to raise my daughter. Oh, lovely stuff. Absolutely beautiful.

My one final question, we ask everyone before you go, it's the, what's the one thing about the way Jenny parents, obviously, don't ask everyone this about Jenny specifically, it's about their own partner. But the one thing Jenny does as a parent that really frustrates you, but you don't really say it because it will cause an argument, but if she were to listen, she'd pick up on it. And then also what's the one thing she does that just amazes you and you feel lucky to be able to have a child with her. day I said sometimes I go I go we're definitely both helicopter parents which I'm guessing is the term that you use as well yes yeah yeah helicopter nineer. Yeah of course yeah always another at the end I think that that often we think that we're

helicopter parenting but in fact we're the entire air force you know and like we're the the we think that we're helicopter parenting, but in fact, we're the entire Air Force. You know, I mean, like, we're just, we're tie, we're on speed, on speed. So that's, I think that's definitely a thing we grab with. And then the thing that I'm in awe of is, you know, pretty much everything. I mean, I think Jen's a poet, she's wonderful, she, she, she, she, she, she's a wonderful, she's a wonderful, she's under, she's under writes under the, she wrote under pseudonym, it's, it's, it's, it's Alan Ginsburg. And she, no, it's J. Hope Stein, and she, well, actually, the book that we wrote, we wrote

a book called The New One, and it's, it's stories by Mike Berbiglia, and then poetry by J.Hopestein about having a child, and she wrote this beautiful book about parenting called the called Little Astronaut and I think the thing that I feel so lucky about is that is that Una has this wonderful role model who is just so true to herself and and I think that that's really important as a parent that you're not pretending to be something else I think that that's the kind of thing that children see through. Oh brilliant, Mike. It's been actually a pleasure to thank you so much for coming on. Well, I hope to see you there and thanks for having me on. Thanks so much, Mike. Mike Beglia, what a lovely bloke. I'm very delighted. And we'll do a vote on our Instagram. Yeah. Is it 69? What a 69er? What a? What a? What a? What a lovely? What a lovely? What a lovely? What a lovely? What a lovely? What a lovely? What a lovely? What a lovely? What a lovely? What a lovely? What a lovely? What a lovely? What a lovely? I I? I th? I th? I th? I th. What a lovely lovely lovely lovely lovely lovely lovely lovely lovely lovely lovely lovely lovely lovely blo. What a lovely lovely lovely bloc. What a lovely bloc. What a lovely lovely lovely lovely lovely lovely lovely lovely lovely lovely lovely lovely lovely th. I' th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I? I? I? I? I? I? I? I. I? I. I I. I. I. I? I. I. I I. I. I? I. I. I. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I tho tho thooo thoooooooooo th. I'm thooooooo. I hope th. I'm th. I th. a vote on our Instagram. Is it 69 or is it a 69er?

I don't, yeah, I think it is a 69, but I always call it a 69er. I think it's a childish thing because I call it a 69er, but that's because I don't, I haven't really, I think I spoke more about the thinners before I'd kissed a girl than in the rest of my life. I did a 69 once and I found it horrible. It's too much. I didn't know what was going on and he was big and he was airy. I'm been a fun. Right, Josh, I'll see you next time.

See you next time. Bye.