Parenting Hell with Rob Beckett and Josh Widdicombe - S7 EP16: Richard Osman

Episode Date: September 15, 2023

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Hello, I'm Rob Beckett. Hello, I'm Josh Winnockham. Welcome to Parenting Hell, the show in which Josh and I discuss what it's really like to be a parent, which I would say can be a little tricky. So, to make ourselves and hopefully you feel better about the trials and tribulations of modern-day parenting, each week we're chatting to a famous parent about how they're coping. Or hopefully how they're not coping. And we'll also be hearing from you the listener with your tips, advice, and of course, tales of parenting woe. Because let's be honest, there are plenty of times when none of us know what we're doing.

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Must be Legal Drinking Age. Hello, you're listening to Parent in Hell with Margot, can you say Rob? Aki. Can you say Rob? What? Ockett. Can you say Josh? And car? What?

No, can you say Josh? Yeah. Go on then. Say Josh? Where do you come? Where do you come? No, I'm kidding. There we go. My Rob and Josh. This is my almost three-year-old daughter Margot, having

got saying your names. She's from Essex or East London. Not far off. Kent. Wormanton, Stroke, Bromley. Margot. Yeah, your neck of the woods. It's only like rising the foot soldier.

They live in Dunstable, but they're originally from Orpington Strobe Bromley. Yeah. With you two names as practice for some time now to help a mild speech delay. I'd say she's done all right. Love the podcast, thank you for taking the pressure off having to be a perfect parent, all the best Amy and Margo from Dunstable. The base, aka, you two are shit at it, makes me feel better. Josh, how are you, I feel th. I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I th. th. thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I'm thi, I'm thi, I'm thi, I'm thi, I'm that, that, I'm that, I've that, I've that, I've that, I, I've that, I, I, I that, I, I, I, I, I, I, I th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. that, I've that, I've that, I've that, I'm that, I'm that, I'm that, I'm that, I'm that, I've that that that that that that that, I've I'm fine, I've been busy. It's that thing of, and you'll know this, Rob, when you're working away, you come back and you want to parents and see your children. That's what you come back. Yeah. And so you just don't get a break. Because you just get back. Yeah, either working or looking after the kids. I've got this afternoon off, Rob. Okay. then the next time I've got off, just to myself, is 18 days time.

Yeah, and I think, you know what, that's just called being a parent, I think. I know. And I think that's what you know. I think that the issue of your avenues. You're assuming there will be days off, but they went back to school, Rob. Do you know what I've done? I've accepted my fate now and I've learned to relax when I'm with them. Yeah, no, me too.

Chilling out. Chillin' out? I'm chilling out when I'm with them. It's that 18 days until I'm alone. It's not, it's the call. I am chilling out when I'm with them. It's when. It's when. It's when. It's when. It. It's. It. It. It's. It. It. It. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's, it. It's, it. It's, it's, it's, it's, it's when. I's, I's, it's, I's, I've. I's, I've. I've. I've. I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's, I's, I's, I's, I's the the the the the the the the the the the the the the to the to the to the to the the to the to the to the to the the the the the the the the the th call. I have two mate, yeah. Absolutely. I am sure that when I'm with them. It's when I'm not with them. It starts when the lack of chill comes in. Right, okay.

But then you're moaning about being with, as soon as you come back from. I'm not moaning. I'm just telling you the sie. I'm just telling you why I'm tired. I'm just just just just it's not you're not enjoying it. You're just saying you're tired. This is the misconception about this podcast. We're not moaning about our kids. We're moaning about the fact we're really trying and it's difficult. Also I'd say your your sons are a very labor intensive age. Because can I can I tell what happened to me this morning Josh it was six thirty a the a. th. time. time. th. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. the to. to. to. the the t. t. the tta. I. tta. the the the the the the the the the the the the the their. their. their. their. their. their. their. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. a.m. about the time I get up and I heard my 7 year old from downstairs saying, don't worry dad, I've let the dogs out for a wee and I thought, you know what? Oh my god.

I fucking made it. I can smell the finish that. Don't you give me fucking. That's parenting. You're always on, mate. Don't you fucking give me that? What you're doing this afternoon because last week you sent me a picture of yourself in a hammock. That's because I live in zone 6 baby. No it's because you know yeah I'm not I'm not having to go at your hammock. No I'm just saying like whether move out baby a bit more space

chill out. Rob it wouldn't help I'm working or parent. I wouldn't have any more space for your son to run. My issue isn't I haven't got room a big a garden you just... My issue isn't that I haven't got room for a hammock until 18 days time. Is there a bigger garden? You can afford a bigger garden. It's not about the hammer! You can choose to be a bus journey away from a tube where you are in the hubbub of a Cosmopolitan city.

I'm not talking about where I live, Rob. That's neither here nor there. That wasn't a reference to your ability to source source a ha so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so the the the the the the the the the the to source to source to source to source to source to source to source to source to source the to source to source to source a to source a to source a to source a to soo. the the to sooom sooom. to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to their their their. their their. their. their. their. their. the the the the the the the the to the to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the. thea. the thea. thea. the the the thea. the the the the the their their their their their the reference to your ability to source a hammock. I'd finished work and come home. Lou was looted the girl somewhere that didn't involve me and I come home and she was just gone. So I was just laying in a hammock and just thought this is a living. Yeah, I know. Fair play. Well it is. The reason is, I've done summer holiday.

Yes. And then we've gone straight from summer holiday to the one month of the year which is absolutely obscene for the amount of work I'm doing. Right, okay, so this is a peak period. So this is actually podcast gold we're heading into now. Yeah. This is a real test of your new mental attitude, the way you're dealing with stress and work life? Well the problem is you can you can kind of in our job go I'm just going to cut down on work I'm just going to do these things but things get

scheduled so that you have group you're either you do you know what I mean? Yeah. Filming you can't go excuse me channel four can you change your TV schedule because I want to look after my mental health a little bit so I'm only going to do 20 hours a week it comes in groups do you know I mean yeah that's the way the work comes in so when does it come down for you is it because we're doing a big thing in October no but no but that's all right that's okay so it's September's a busy time see I don't know if this is the beginning of a new new new new new new new new new new new new new new I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I the the the the the the to be I the to be I to be I the to be I'm to be I'm to be I'm to be I'm to be I'm to be I'm to to to the the the to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th is is is is is I I try. ttry. try. tttry. try. ttry. ttry. to to to to the. the. the. I Josh but we we do it we're doing a show and I've got two weeks off in the middle yeah and I just booked that off ages ago for some family staff and just put two weeks off and the TV people said so in that time because it's right in the middle of the

whole filming schedule yeah in that time if we sent your emails will you be able to read them and report back and I just went no no no no no no no no no no no no no the the the the the the the to the to the the to the the the to to they. they. they. they. they. they. they. to they. to to the to to be to be to to to the to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the te. the the te. te. the to. to be. to read them and report back? And I just went no. No but like if we sent you I was like no and I was like because I've got I've got protect that time where I will go mad but that now the proof will be the prudent if I just I'm not invited back. So in about six rums I'll be able to let you know if this new approach to work is a good idea or it really does impact the financials. Yeah. Guys I'm prioritizing my mental health but I'm also not prioritizing income. Yeah.

So that you know, but I'll let you know. Yeah, I'll let you know. But you're all right though apart from that, you've just been busy, Josh. Yeah, it's been fine. Back at school, etc. which was, it was, it was, I was a way filming for the first day and that felt really, I didn't like that at all. Well, yeah, it wasn't her first, it was her first, it was her, it was her, it was, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she was, she was, she was, she was, she was, she was, she was, she was, she was, she was, she was, she was, she was, she was, she was, she was, she was, she was, she was, she was, she was, she was, miss the first reception, but yeah, I was like I was supposed to be working, well I was working, but I just went in half an hour late so I could take him in because I just sort of forgot that was the day, but it does feel like, oh, you should take him in, but they're only like year one and year three now. So that doesn't really matter, but it does feel a bit like, it's a that, th.

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kids fucking christening and I sit and watch football all day okay so why don't you shove that the fucking chapel. Because I'm protecting my mental health okay so why don't you shove that up the fucking chapel? Because I'm protecting my mental health, okay? So why don't you back off? Where's the line between protecting your mental health and doing whatever you want all the time and being quite rude? I don't know, yeah, there's got to be a point at which you go. Can you take the bins out? I'm so sorry but I'm protected my mental health and that will smell. And my brain doesn't like some bad smells. No, exactly.

We've got to look after New Maruna at the moment because once I'm happy, everyone else is happy. That's the way I look at it. Yeah, there is a bit of a balance. In conclusion, me and Lou have had a conversation where she thinks I might be turned into a sociopath. But I just think that's just a young guy protected his mental health, that's all. So is Lou Goick? Yes, but she's interested in that kind of thing and she likes meeting up with all the parents and stuff. And she was a teacher so that is a bit more whole of your house. Yeah, I'm going to get the mental health in mental. Yes. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, th. thi. thin, thi. thi. thi. thi. their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, they. they. thi. thi. Yeah, thi. Yeah, thi. Yeah, thi. Yeah, thi. Yeah, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin. thin. thin. thin. thin. thin. the. thea. thean. thean. thean. thean. thean. thean. thean. thean. thean. thean. the'm gonna get the, in the mental health house, Matt, so. Kids, if I cook you dinner tonight, it will have an impact on my mental health.

So if you can just have another bowl of cereal, thank you very much. Do write in if you've used the excuse protective of a mental health for the what events have you got out of by saying you're taking it out. Yeah, that means. That's you you you you you you you you you you you th you, if you, if you, if you, if you, if you, if you, if you, if you, if you, if you'll th you'll th you'll th you'll th you'll th you'll thi, if I'll have thi, if I'll have thi, I thin, I'll have thi, I'll have thi, I th, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I will have thin, I will have thin, I'll thin, I'll thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin. thin. thin. thin. thin. thin. thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, mental health for the what events have you got out of? Yeah, that means such a great one. When have you used that, the mental health card to get out of something you just didn't want to go to? Maybe last the other day, the kids, my kids went to me. Some of their said something like, why annoying I went well not really no it's you know it's nice when people are nice if they're a bit rude it's not that nice and I said but when I'm with

you I prefer to be chatting to you not chatting to you not chatting to other people you know I don't you're at school and stuff and they went why do they do it I went oh because they probably see my shows and they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they to to to to to to to to to to to they to they they they they they they they they're they're they're they they they they they they they's it. Let me talk you through economics. Okay, we have this chat on holiday and I went, let me sit you down and give you some fucking home truth. The other thing, I think my daughter said to me the other day, you know they come out and whispered in your ear sometimes. Do your kids ever do that like at the fuck part of the game?? She ran up to me and I sat on the sofa and she just whispered in my ear, you're so weak. And it was awful. It actually felt like, you know the bad voice in your head, it was like that came

alive and it was my own chaga. You're so, what thing to say in their ear? so weak. What was it fraud? Do you know why she said it? No, I was just sat down having a drink, but I don't know, I don't know if she's heard it on something or whatever, or there's a weird thing to say. Or maybe you are weak. Well, no, don't start getting in my head now. Maybe that is, maybe she was just kind of looked at you and thi. He's a weak man. He's a wick man. A pathetic. A pathetic. A w. A w. A I, my neighbor helped me made, I sort of watched him do it. This is pathetic. This is pathetic. This is fucking lame. I had a was was a waspathe nest in my house, in the roof. In the house. In your house. In the house, basically, out, out, it was like on the roof. It wasn't in the house. their was in, basically, out, out of the roof was going through a little, yeah on the house, on the cracks, none of the wasts were in the house but they were in like under the guttering and stuff like that is in a little hole they're going through and you could see him buzzing around, there's always like 10

wasps around this little hole and then I rung up, I run up rent a kill right guess how much for someone to come around and spray basically they spray a they're they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they th th th the the the the thee the the the the thee the thee they're they're they're they're they're they're to start with that couple under beans. Yeah I thought maybe tops 200 quid three hundred and fifty pounds plus VAT you pay up front and if they're coming around your house and they can't reach it is an hundred quid call out. Oh that's annoying. Come on mate. And I went you over a thank to thrown. And I went you over a thank. And I to and I to and I to and I to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to thin, thin, thin, thi, thi, thi, thi, tho' tho' tho' their their thi, thi, their $ $ $3, their $3, their their $ $3, their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their thi. 3 $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $0. 3, $3, $3. 3 $3. 3 $3.00000000.00.00.30.30.00.00.30.30, $350.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.30.00.30.30, $ got no idea I'll get rid of this was now. I've got nothing. They've got you have a barrel really. Exactly. So anyway I was driving back and I literally saw my neighbor with a massive pole with a little like Lance thing and a big pump thing.

I went, what's that mate? Oh my god. Oh, I was. Yeah, yeah. I'll get him now and again and then they charge a fortune, but all it is they spray this in it, I found out what they used. So, me and him, pump, pump, pump, done a wasness. Blamey, did it work? Yeah, I mean, what I say, we, I held the too long. Should we bring on a guest? Richard Osmond, the main event Josh. Big guy, big dog. He's here. We've wanted him for ages. Yeah, we've wanted him for ages. He refused to do it online because he doesn't have a laptop apparently, but he's written about 15 books.

And we've got him in Soho, in a studio and we spoke to him. What a great guy. Camer. the camera's off. out. Mano to Mano and recorded by Mano but it's quite man heavy actually but that was an accident that's just sort of the way it's fallen. Here's Richard Osmond. Hello Richard Osmond. Hello Josh Riddickham how are you? I'm very good how are you? Who is this gentleman? Hi Rob here I'm a job. I'm a job. I'm a job. I'm a job he's assistant I'll take notes. Work experience. to the th work work work work work work work work work work work work work work work work work work work work work work work work work work work work work work work work work work work work work work work work work. th. th. th. th. th. th. the to the to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the their. the their. their. the the their. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the thr. the to. the to. the to to to to. to to the Richard, which is exciting. It's much more fun doing it in person, I think. I don't know, because I find it weird, I find it. It doesn't like being in the room with us, Josh. No, I know.

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If you said I don't like doing podcasts at home. No, but people will go, yeah, but people will go, yeah, but ours is quite a fun one. Yeah, yeah, we we? Or they'll say, all we need you to do is think of 14 things. You have to think of... Oh, yeah. What's your guilty pleasure? Nothing. You shouldn't be judged on what you like. Yeah, exactly.

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this, you'll get booked on shows. One of the big things is they send you a car. And every young comic is like, oh my god, I've th is th. thian. thian. thian. thian. thian. thian. thian. thian. thian. thi is thi is thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. their is, what is, what is, what is, what is, what is, what is, what is, what is, what is, what is, what is, what is, what is, what is, what is, what is, what is, what is, what is, what is, what is, what is, what is, what is their. their. their is their. th. th. What is th. What is thi. thi. thi. What is thi. What is thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. their is their is their is their is their is their their their their their their their their their is, what is, what is their is, what is, because I'm pretty big time now. And the truth is a producer doesn't send you a car because you're big time. A producer sends you a car because they need to know where you are. It's essential trouble. Like having a bug. Because they don't trust you. They know you're an idiot. They tell you to turn up to the studio who's driving that car can ring them. That's all they need. And also they know when you've been picked up and a bit of a backstage from the last leg. For years, Alex Brooker didn't know that. So he was giving his excuses for being late.

No. Not knowing. The cab driver said he's only got in. They had a record of when he was getting in the car. Sorry the car didn't show up, sorry guys the car was late and they're like oh Alex. He should know by now shouldn't he? He does know by now. Well he certainly knows now. He certainly knows now. He's very good Alex Brooker isn't he. He's very good. He's very good. He's very good. He's my favorite on that show. Yeah, I mean because you a tough job. It's a tough job. Then you've got the sort of news anchor person waiting if you do and then funnies with Brooke up. I was watching one

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book not as comedians but they're as good as comedians. So you book them on a league of their own or last leg or something. I've always been lucky like that because by and large when people watch you on things if you boys are on something and they go go and then make me laugh yeah yeah it's your job whereas in me they're like oh my this guy. The's the guy he doesn't the guy he's they they they the guy the guy th so th so the guy th is the guy th is the guy th is the guy th is the guy th is th is the guy the guy the guy th is the guy the guy the guy the guy the guy the guy the guy the guy the guy the guy the guy the guy the guy they. they's they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. the the the the they. the they. they. they. the th. the. the. the. the. the. they. they. they. they. they. they're like like like like they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they. the guy from Pointless is on this show. So as soon as you do a joke they're like, oh my God, this guy, you've seen the guy he doesn't do jokes, he just did a joke. I bet John Grisham's not this funny. Yeah, it's like yeah. All have to be as funnier than John Grisham, whereas you have to be funny than Steve Martin. It's hardest job in the world. Toughest the doctor actually both. Hardest job. the job. the job. the job. the job. the job is is the job. the job. the job. the job. the the th. th. th. th. th. th. he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he's he's he's he's he's he he's he he's he he's he he's he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he th. He's th. He's th. He's th. He's th. He's th. He's th. He's th. He's th. He's th. He's th. He's theist. Well that's what I think so you are an author now that's officially a very successful one most there's probably a stat backing up as most successful one

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Start at 930, don't you? Quarter to 10 sometimes, I thought, like, 15 minutes of gold, have I got gold? That's why I have Edmunds, because it's an hour. little interval or something but yeah where do we get onto this? You were talking to the crowd obviously they had younger kids a lot of the audience apparently how live yes yes yes some of your advice was quite yeah no I was saying that that because it's hard with young kids and it really is hard so yeah people are feeling bad about themselves really don't there's very few harder things psychologically emotionally and just physically than people always say never ends though honestly it never ends once

you got them that's it forever it's just this changes but it's always as hard and that's absolute bullshit it gets so much easier and pretty much every turn you know when you go to school gets a bit easier but then you got a big nativity plays yeah it's a bit of bad me in and they're all of that kind th their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their they their they they they they they to to to to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to to go to to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go go go go go go go go to go go go go their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their th to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to. Yeah. It's a bit of admin and they've got swoo in picking up. Book day and all of that kind of stuff. But yeah, as soon as they're old and they just hang out with their mates and you're like. But even school is easy. Like you're going, all right. So I've got to do a school run and I'm up against it and then maybe I'll have to to to to to to to to to to work I'll have I'll have I'll have I'll have I'll have to work I'll have to work I'll have to work I'll have to work I'll have to work I'll have to work I'll have they wake up every two hours. Yeah, that is so tough.

Because it gets to the point where your kids start waking up at midday because they're teenagers or they get up at like 2 p.m. and there's a certain type of parent of course he's like no no we must wait them up because we've got to go hiking but if you're not that sort of parent and I am not. You look at you watch, you go, it's 2 p.m. I've watched the Saturday lunchtime football game. Oh, the dream. Already and he's not even awake yet. It's great. It makes me feel better about myself if someone's still asleep. But I'm like, oh, I'm like, oh, I'm going to get his stuff done. Yeah. And also you're the protector of the house. Yeah, you know's a really good bit of football. Oh yeah, then it's so he's upstairs. Yeah. But yeah, and then they leave. And of course it's that has some sadness to it.

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was in the end so is lots they're asking questions. You don't put like a child in a high chair with the telly on and you can't ask you know when they're older and they actively can choose it. Yeah if they want to watch pepper pig great a great thing to watch it seems fun Zandra Armstrong does one of the voices don't they? Of course he does he does. Of course he does he does If he goes hiking, it would be for Channel 5 documentary. Absolutely. He doesn't go hiking without getting paid for hiking. Monetizing hobbies, as I was like. There's never an addition of, when we used to film Pointess, he would always have to wish about a hundred kids

in the Daddy Dogg voice. Someone who's going to really sorry, I couldn't possibly impose. going to ask him to do Daddy Dog and he loves it he turns it on. Does it? Daddy Dog Dog from Peck? Yeah, because he also does Hey Duggy. Yes, he does Hey Doggy as well. But he does the Dog from Pepper Pig he gets that more. Oh I don't know he does hey Dougie, he gets that. Oh I don't know he does. Listen. It's just a voice. It's just a voice. It's a dog. It's a tubby. toy. toy. toy. toy. toy. the. toy. their. their. toy. their. their. tog. tog. the dog. the dog. tog. He's a dog. He's a dog. He's a dog. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's a dog. He's a dog. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's th. He's th. He's th. He's th. He's the dog. He's the dog. He's a dog. He's a dog. He's a dog. He's a dog. He's a dog. He's a dog. He's a dog. He's a dog. He's a dog. He's a dog. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's a dog. He's a dog. He's a dog. He's a dog. He's a dog. He's a dog. He's a dog. He's a dog. He gets. He's a dog. He's a dog. He gets. He gets. He's a dog. He's still on tele. That's what was in their tummy. Yeah, basically. What, so there's little tubbies? Yeah, the ones that we used to watch. Yeah, Poe, la la. Yeah, I've got little ones. Yeah, I've got little ones. Yeah. Wow. In the house That's the question, isn't it? Because it can't be fun going through life and call Tinky Winky.

What are the Teletubbies? Here we go. The Tidley Tubby's. Oh yeah. It's like that's from Juniors, isn't it? Yeah, so one's called Frankie Bridge. They're all married to footballers. So the Tiddley Tubbies are baby Teletubbies appearing in the revival series. Their names are Mimi, Dada, Dhar, thu, Ninn, Dougal Dee and Umbi. That's a lot of kids.

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one is dedicated to them. Nice. It's nice to the two of them. They always get a thanks to the back. I still think it has to be, but what does it mean really mean really? Yeah. Basically it's worse. It's worse worse worse worse worse worse worse worse worse worse worse worse worse worse worse worse worse worse worse worse worse worse worse worse worse it's worse it's worse it's worse. It's worse. It's worse. It's worse. It's worse. It's worse. It's worse. It's worse. It's worse. It's worse. It's worse. It's worse. It's worse. It's worse. It's worse. It's worse. It's worse if you the the the the their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their. It's their. It's their. It's their. It's their. It's their. It's their. It's worse. It's worse. It's worse. It's worse. It's worse. their their their the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the their their our books, you sort of just have to. Yeah, well I'm on book four now and you quickly run out of people. Well, we sat here. What about to the loyal reader? To you, reed? the loyal reader. Oh, that's cool. Can you imagine? I mean, literally. I mean, literally. I'm literally. They're going to dedicate to me. Did you ever consider doing the voice for the audio the audio the audio the audio the audio the audio the audio the audio the audio the audio for the audio for the audio for the audio for the audio for the audio for the audio for the audio for the audio for the audio for the audio for the audio for to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to be to be to be to be to be to be to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the thoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo. too. to to to to to to to to to too. the royalties. This book's dedicated to your ex-girlfriend. Excellent, lovely. Did you ever consider doing the voice for the audio book? Oh my God, no. My book's the sort of main narrator is an 80-year-old woman. Yeah, I'm not sure I have the range.

Did you try the voice? Of course not, because Leslie Manville said yes. Yeah, and Leslie Manville was one of the greatest. And now Fiona Shaw does it? No, of course. I mean, well, I tell you what. But you know at home, did you not, when they're messaging about it, did you think, I could probably give it though? No. It feels to me like, no, no, listen, you practice a voice, if I had insisted. They probably would have had to say yes. But's like reading a book out loud and they're really really long in like a tiny studio somewhere and you've got to do all the accents and you like... But also... That Caribbean character. That was a mistake.

You know what it was okay to write but not to read your stuff and at that point it's done you can't change anything so you'd like you do a sentence where you go, oh that's clumsy. Yeah. Oh yeah. So I cannot understand that given that they will employ someone to do it for you. Yes. Did you pop your head in? Literally.

Fior is just finished doing the fourth one and I'm filming. the. . Oh, nice. a little audio thing for the end of the book as well. And she's great and she rings up and goes, I have a question about the, oh this is lovely. So it's very seriously and she does it brilliantly. Yeah, you don't need me going, it was a sunny day. Come on. Did your children, because your children would have been early teenagers when you came on TV? They were a little bit younger than that. So I started TV probably 2010 something like that so they were kind of 10 and 12 yeah so not many miles off that. If people don't know you were I've never heard this from you actually. Okay the story of pointless is that you sat in to the run-through yes and they were gonna get someone else to do it and then the people said no get this guy. As you know like quizzes the thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the th. the the the the the the th. th. the thi. they're their their their their their their their their their their. I their. I. I their. I their. I their. I their. I their. I their. I their. I their. I their. I they were. I. I. I. I. I. I they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're th. I's. I's. I'm. I'm. I'm t. I'm te. I'm. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm their else to do it. And then the people said, no, get this guy.

As you know, like quizzes and things like that, you can't set them off a bit of paper because you start explaining the rules to any quiz and immediately it sounds incomprehensible. Yeah. Right, right. Yeah, but within two seconds everyone goes, I'm not listening. Apart from Romish, she goes, I'll, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, know what, nice to see him. But you think Robbie's... Well, yeah, I think maybe he could take his foot off the pedal on some of the shows that I'm not on. But if anything that affects me financially, he should carry on. He does do a lot though. You sort of

a touch of the Zandra about him. Yeah, I think it's strange because they've got very different backgrounds. Yeah, but yeah, point there. So we literally did a run-through for the BBC, and I always make the producers play the presenters because some companies hire in presenters to do run-throughs, but the producers know if there's any hidden little problem with a show, or they know if certain thing happens, so the run-through is going to be great, then they can make that happen. th happen happen happen happen happen happen happen happen happen happen happen happen. th. And so I played me, a guy called Tom Blakson, who now does the wheel with Michael McIntyre, played Xander. Was there someone who was in your head to be in this role? No, there wasn't actually, which was the interesting thing.

So they liked it, they said, listen, let's do it. And then Tom Blakesen himself came up to my desk and it was, it was lovely and I thought I've never ever wanted to be on tele, ever ever, it just wasn't, I really loved my job and I love being in the gallery. Because there's always miniature heroes and celebrations being passed around and people make you couple two. Oh, sorry, I thought you were genuinely meaning I felt like Alex Brooker and Mel B there. Yeah, great Josh, but I've got a really good miniature hero joke. I got one now.

Shit, come on. Let's not about that slip. But we can add it into that. You're gonna be like Lee Mack speed getting into it. So I didn't, you know, anything like unbelievable and then they got Zander to do it as well but I thought yeah I'll do a series of it and yeah 12 years later I was sort of still doing it but yeah I didn't seek it out. And what did your kids think when you said I'm going to be on TV? I think they sort of thought again because it was quite low impact of the first series. It's on like like like TV, because if that's the only thing you do, you're massively known to a very small percentage and then obviously moved schedules and later on that.

But the interesting thing is now, because terrestrial TV, as we know, is in a fairly terminal decline. But the ratings are daytime TV is sort of this behemoth. You're okay you didn't podcast. Yeah I think it would be alright. Yeah. You've already pivoted away from terrestrial TV which is what people have to do. And so then pointless kind of blew up around the same time we were getting on TV. Yeah We were on a lot of the same kind of panel shows and stuff. Because I then th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. to, thi. th. th. the th. the the tha. tha. the the tha. So, the, tha. So, tha. So, tha. So, the. So, the. So, the. So, the. So, the. So, the. So, the. So, t. So, t. So, t. So, t. So, t. So, t. So, the the the t. So, t. So, together, together, together, together, together, together, together, together, together, together, together, together, together, together, the t lot of the same kind of panel shows and stuff. Because I remember you coming to Edinburgh with your kids and stuff. Yeah. Yeah, you brought your son to see me. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. They saw all sorts. Do you get lots of perks from that kind of situation. Yeah. they're not really, well. The interesting thing was, so that always the kids to Edinburgh from when they were kind of seven or eight. Yeah. And if you've got kids at home, other than the expense, it's much more expensive now.

But there's so much good stuff there. And you suddenly run as, oh, that's what the street theater is for as well. Because you're trying to walk up and down, you know, the royal mile. And the kids thing I've ever seen in my entire life oh and he's saying stuff to the crowd he just pulled a guy out of the crowd and he has put a lit taught in the guy's mouth I have listen all I've seen in my life is tel-tuvies I'm now seeing this my mind is blown anyway we'd always take him that like we went one year and my son must have been six or seven and we went the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th th th th. th. th. th. th. tho. tho. He's th. He's tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. He's th. He's th. He's th. He's th. He's th. He's th. He's the. He's the. He's the. He's the. He's the. He's theeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee. the. the. He's th always take him that, like we went one year and my son must have been six or seven, and we went to see the amazing bubble man. And you got my son up on stage, and you put my son inside a bubble.

You know, good luck David, a doggity beat in that. But anyway, so I take him every year. And then as they get a bit older, there's certain comics you can going to be a little bit cleaner. Yeah, Chubby Brown and then yeah as they got sort of 15 or so they could go and see anyone. The fame thing wasn't good but having been a producer for so many years and knowing loads of the comics you know they're not going to pick on you. Yeah, of course. That's the best thing you know if you turn up a tiny bit late and you sit on the end of no one's no one's no one's no one's. th. th. th. No one's no one's. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. Tane th. Tane thin's thin's thin's thin's thin' thin' thin' thin' thin' thin' thin' they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they's they's they's they they's they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they're th. They're th. They're thin. They're their thin. They're the thin. They're the thin. the thin. the thin. thin. the thin. the thin. the thin. the thin. th people. No, it's great. And another great thing about kids getting old is watch better stuff, right? Yeah. There's better TV, better films, and you can just go and see great comics with your kids. And that's my kids are both.

Neither them love sport. Oh really? That must be weird for you. Yeah, I mean, you go one way. way or the other. I take that yeah and that will do me so yeah we've always have fun they've been to see both of you boys in their teenage years they have a favorite oh no no I don't know and that man is the bubble man. They still love him. I feel like you're quite a cool dad in that sense I mean cool would be pushing it but yeah I mean that's he's coming from Josh Winnocken oh yeah that's thin oh yeah yeah he he he he he he's he he's he he's he he's he he's he he's he he's he he's he he's he he's he he's he he's he he's he he's th he's th he's th th th th th th th th th th th th thi thi th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th the th the the the the the the the the the the the th th th th th th th th thi the the the the the the to the to to to the to the the the the the the the the the the the the you live in London, is that right? I can't believe it. I've seen him, he's got a car of this guy. I've seen him driving down the road. Do you know what? It's good you didn't do the voices for your book? Yeah, I'm not cool now. No, do you like go to them?

You should watch this or you'd like... Yeah, it was great to sort of introduce them to things, but I never sort of introduced them in that way of saying, oh, this is like some of the comedy canon. You must watch this because it's really important. Well, I did just thinking, this is a great opportunity for me to be able to watch something that I like. Yeah. I was remember the show that was absolutely in the sweet spot as they were getting a little little little little little little little little little little little little little, it, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, and, was, and, was, was, was, and, was a little, was, was, was, and a little, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, and a little, thi, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, and was, was, was, was, and was, was, was, and was, and was, and was, and was, and thea, and the......................... t. t. t. t. t. t. t. the. t. the t. the the the to, the to, the the the the to, the the to, the the the to, the the the the to. to. to. the to. the the thinking, I'm watching brilliant comedy, genuinely brilliantly crafted comedy. They are absolutely loving it. It's rare that a show like that comes about. At the moment Stephen Mulhern's infrappelling on ITV that's so good. He basically hangs around like peers or shops or busy high streets and gets random people in the street and goes like right

if you do this challenge I'll give you a tenor or 20 quid and it'll be like trying to stack up one piece on your arm and catch them silly little games like that and then he absolutely absolutely mugs them off like like like he'd just come over and go you're all right it's been on a holiday and then someone's like and they're like fake he'll try to thin to they they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's actually I I I I they's actually they's actually they's actually they's actually I they's they's actually they's actually they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they're they're they're they're try try try try try try try try try try try they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're that. I was going to say, but that's a thing, if you can watch something, your kids are laughing as well, you think, Harry Hill, God bless you. Thank you so much. Harry's one of the best. Thank you for everything that you did. Well, your kids getting old and stuff like that, I know, you say like, it gets easier.

I know, I'm going to be fine, I like advice but like grown-up life advice as opposed to like teeny stuff because I'm another one I'll show at this as well but like you're very measured and present and it feels like you maybe got your head right before any TV or Fame came yeah and you knew exactly who you were and exactly how you operate under most stresses yeah and before you had any sort of attention. I think I'm quite good at work advice because I knew how to build a career and and my daughter who's slightly older and slightly further advanced in her career and she's going through interesting things like she was like, she was negotiating a pay rise. She was like, I feel like maybe I should ask a pay rise. She was like, I don't know how. that's like, I feel like, he's your agent remind me. So that that that that that that that that that that that to that to to that to their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their to to to to to to to to to to to to their to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their the. their the. their their their their their the. their the. the. their theat. the. their their their thing in the world. How do you do that by the way? How do you ask a pay rise? I mean, who's your agent to remind me? Well they've done it for me.

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here's the problem. Hattrick have buffered me 40 grand. So I want to stay but I want to to say. they went I will give their their to give to give their their their to give to give their to give to give their their their to give. I will give. I will give. I will give. I will give. I will give. I will give. I will give. I will give. I will give. I will give their. I will give you their. I will give you their their their their their their their their their their their. I was their. I was their. I was their. I was their. I was their. I was their. I was their. I was their. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was their. I was. I was their. I was. I was. I was their. I was their. I was. I was their. I was tho. I was try. I was try. I was. I was try. I was together. I was try. I was today. I was try. I was thoe. I was when you're talking to someone from HR or wherever it is, essentially they're going to leave that room with the money or you are. Yeah, right? That's all. If you want an extra thousand pound a year, either you're going to walk out with that thousand pound a year, either you're going of your daytime TV. No, no, no, no. So, right. I've got it, yeah. We've got 14, we've got 14 boxes. And so the key thing to remember is never anything personal. If you ask for too much, you will see a look in their eyes and says, oh maybe I shouldn't have to ask for that. But essentially their job is to not give it to you, but it's nothing personal. But at the same time, if you just say, well, then I might have to look elsewhere. Yeah.

And then look in their eyes and just check that that's okay. Of course they're allowed to give you it. Yeah. They can't give it to everybody. That's the point. If everyone walked in and I' I bet you're one of those people. I don't know if you find it's a slight mystery to me. But you know that's always, I always make it their problem, that's how to get a pay rise. It also says, well your career you've almost had like three careers essentially because you had

the pointless years. It sounds like you just drink it up. We had to, can I just do a side bar? There's a lovely wardrobe woman I worked with called Sharon. And someone to stay in her spare room and the person who was staying in Sharon's spare room for like a month went out to another friend they said is Sharon okay and they're like yeah I think she's okay I think she's all right and they're going why she said well I'm in a spare room and on her daily planner like six days a week it just says pointless pointless and the other day it says total total to to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the their their their the th is just is just is their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their th is just is just is just is just is just is just is just is their things. things. things. things. things. things. their their the the their their their their it says total wipeout. Oh that's good. Oh that is good.

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of felt that by the age of 40 I, that's the bit of my career I'm proudest of in some ways because I built this l and so it's one of those things where I walked into an industry where not a huge amount of people did love tell. There was lots of sort of public school kids who've got jobs because they knew people and they didn't really watch what normal people watched and I did always did do. And so it was sort of an easy is not the right word but I was pushing an open door. Yeah. Because I knew what I love to watch. I love thinking of ideas. I sort of roughly know what people will like to watch because if I like it, then other people do.

And I had lots and lots and lots of failures, of course. But it was a great career and those days of independent TV as well, the 90s and the 2000s, where there was money. if you had a big hit show around the world you could really really make money, you know millionaire and Big Brother and Wea Qas and these shows could really really make money, which is not the case anymore. So yeah, I think I was lucky to be interested in something that was really monetizable and just I never had to sort of go no I'm going to do an extra two hours because I really want to make money. I did another two hours because you're sitting in a recording studio, right? And it's fun to make tele. And what saves your career out when your kids arrive? Because obviously that is a big stressful busy job and then boom there's two kids, two under two almost. Yeah, exactly.

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Join us at Building Better Schools. A message from the Elementary Teachers Federation of Ontario. We're at the stage now and Josh is a little bit behind because he's got the younger ones, but they're becoming like sleepovers, friends coming over and also the, oh she said this, he did that, all that stuff, it's like complete bollocksocks but it means a lot to them at that point. How did you because you're very matter-of-fact and very chilled and stuff that did you just sort of ignore it and let them get on with it or was you? No you have to it's so important to them. Yeah yeah yeah. What someone said at school it's like if you've just done a show and someone's? to you. Yeah. Yeah. It's like. It's like. It's really. It's really. It's really. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. to. th. th. th. th. the the the their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's so. It's so. It's so. It's so. It's so. It's so. It's so. It's so. It's so. It's so. It's so. It's so. It's so. It's so. It's so. It's so. It's so. It's so. It's so. It, yeah. But you know, it's incredibly important. Your career is important. Yes. If you're thinking, oh, we've got to do this tour,

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Yeah, very much so. And Muckbusted. Was that through your kids? No. Is the truth? It's the truth. Okay. I think they're very talented boys. Both of them are McFly and Busted. James Bourne from Bustin. James Bourne who was a brilliant songwriter, Matt Willis, Charlie Simpson, they were all great songwriters, like all those boys whenever they do

a reality show. Tom Fletcher, Harry, Harry, Dougie, Danny, they always turned up and do it properly. Right? They are no I had to write songs. Yeah, I love McFly. I wanted to the kids to see McFly up in Leicester Square. There was a Saturday morning show called TMI. Yeah, I remember it. And it was Sam and Mark and lovely Caroline Flack who I knew and I'd been working with so she invited us along. And McFly were on and you they, theyrely thrown, I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I was to to to to to to to to to to to to to told, and told, and told, and told, and told, and their, and their, and their, and their, and their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, together.. And, together, together, together, together, together, together, together, together, together, together, together, together, their. And, their. And, their. And, drops his trousers to show his boxer shorts and all you hear is my boy who's about six years old going, oh my goodness! And they got to be on tell actually there was a game they used to play where they got to be on tell so you know that sort of things. I know I love McFly but certainly that comes from me not from them. That's your special power. As you said with TV, is that there's loads of people in these industries that have a kind of disregard for popular TV, popular music and a sniffy and they'll maybe go, I'll make

this show that these other people will enjoy. But you've got popular tastes in television and in books as well and when you start your pop punk band in music so on. Do you think that is one of the things that's helped with your success? Because you can't ever do anything cynically is the truth. One of the lovely things about being a stand-up, by and large, when you really make it is when you really make it, thii. you've got your voice right and Rob you had yours very very early on you came almost fully formed which is interesting Josh I saw less of your very early work but when you really go oh no hold on I'm being myself but also I'm coming

at an angle and suddenly the material flows right yeah because it comes from a place of truth you're not having to go oh but what would be a joke about that yeah yeah funny I could thrown, this is something that I think. On what the week, for example, I literally didn't really know much or care. As you get older, you get more into politics and they was talking about like austerity and all that and I genuinely thought he was a French politician. And that was like a joke on it and that was like a joke on it and that was a joke. But sometimes you're under pressure to go, oh God, maybe maybe maybe maybe maybe maybe maybe maybe maybe maybe maybe maybe maybe maybe maybe maybe maybe maybe I maybe I maybe I maybe I maybe I maybe I maybe I maybe I maybe I maybe I maybe I their. Maybe I their. Maybe, maybe, maybe, oh, oh, maybe, oh, oh, oh, maybe, oh, oh, maybe, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, that, that, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, I, that, I, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, I that, I that, that, I that, I th. th. th. tho. th. th. th.ly remember one where it was small ads. Oh right. I don't remember what my one was but I remember thinking I have to get down first because everyone's going to do this and I remember you were on it and I remember racing down to do the first one. It being met with silence like you've never heard it like floating through space.

Yeah. And then I just remember walking back and I vividly remember looking at you and you're just pissing yourself. Love. And now look at your vote. That's what you're about on that show I could do because that's a writer's round. Yeah. And a performer's like Hugh could do a one man play for one line and then I've got nothing. I'm like you doing your audio book. But yeah you could do that show on what the the the the the the the the the their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. they they their. they they they they they they they they're they they they they they they they they they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I to to to to to to to to to to to to to th. to too. too. too. too. too. too. to to to to to to to th. to to th.. I'm like you doing your audio book.

But yeah you could do that show on both sides easily. They ask me on what the week actually. But that to me is a performance show that isn't a show where you can just come on as a civilian which is what I am. Thank you so much coming on Richard. Good luck were your next book. 14th of September. Yes 14th of September. the thir the thir the the. th. th. th. th. the th. th. th. th. th. th. the th. the th. the th. th. th. the the th. the the th. the th. the the the the the the the the the the the th. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the week. the week. the week. the week. the week. the the week. the the the the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. thee. theeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeea. thea. thea. thea. thea. thea. thea. thea. theeee. the. the. the. the the th. the. th die. I think it's good. I think it's good. Thursday murder club. Where would you rank it fourth? Yeah. As traditional people by and large like them more and more as they go on. But I think sometimes that's because they like the characters. It's like the TV shows you go, oh really it's stride in series three. No, you're just working. They're working out. They're they trust. They're working. Exactly. They're less. They're less. They're less. They're less. They're less. They're. They're. They're. They're. They're. They're. They're. They're. They're. They're. They're. They're. They're. They're. They're. They're. They're. They're. They're. They're. They're. They're. They're. They're. They're. They're. People. People. People. People. People. People. People. People. People. People. People. People. People. People. People. People. People. People. People. People. People. People. People. People. People. People. People. People. People. People. People. People. People. People. People. People. People. the. People. People. the. People. People. the. People. People. the. People. the. People. People. They're less. the. People. People. People. the the the the the the the the the the the they. People. People. People. People. People. People. People. they. they're, by, by, by, by, by, by, by, by, by, by, by, by, by, by, by,? How does it work? Yeah, I'm doing a new series now, so I've just started a brand new one. Totally different to these. Totally different. About a Wizards child going to school. Exactly. I'm just going to like it.

I'm going to do some more Thursday Mettaclups They're not finished but I'm having a year doing something else. Lovely. Nice. What point with the Thursday murder club? What point did you go, oh my god this is something else now? It started big which was good but I slightly think oh maybe it will because I'm on tellian over here so maybe but it started bigger than we thought than we thought well for about four or five thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. to thi. thi. thi. to to to to be to be to be thi. to be thi. thi. to be thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. So, thi. So, to to to to to to to to toooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo. So. So. So. So. So. So, t. So. So maybe, but it started bigger than we thought, did well for about four or five weeks and then it started going even further up which was amazing and then it got to Christmas and I went absolutely bananas. I mean mental, which was really lovely and you know from the world I'm from I know what a flop is because I've had both. And so that's when I thought oh, okay, this is, we're in here. There's something. Yeah, and it's selling in America. The world the world the world the world the world the world the world the world the world the world the world the world. The world. The world. The world. The world. The world. The world. The world. The world. The world. the world. the world. the world. the world. the world. the world. the world. the world. the world. the world. the world. the world. the world. the world. the world. the world. the world. the world. the world. the world. the world. the world. the world. the world. the world. the world. the world. the world. the world. the world. the world. the world. the world. the world. the world. the world. the world. the world. the world. the world. the world. the world. the world. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. th. th. thi. th. th. th. th. th. I thought oh okay this is we're in here there's something we're in here and it's selling in America and Germany and all these so I thought oh okay which is obviously they don't know who I am so almo

so they're the most I mean within a month yeah yeah I thought oh okay this is gonna be a fun ride there is a final question we end on yes but it's a the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the question is normally about the best things they do parenting and the worst, but I don't know if you're open for that show. It doesn't seem appropriate. Fair enough, thank you very much Richard. Best ending we've ever had in a way. That was Richard Osmond. See you Tuesday? Do you not want to talk about Richard Osmond? And what a great chef was... I love Richard Osmond. But Rob, I'll be honest with you. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the th. th. th. th. th. the th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thin, thin, thi. thin' thin' th. th. th. th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th. T. T. That. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thin. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. th. th. th. Osmond and what a great chef was. I love Rich Osmond but Rob I'll be honest with you. Yeah I'm doing the 16-8 and I'm 25 minutes from being able to eat again. That's why you're so grouchy. I'm not grouchy. You are, you're not right I knew it was something you're doing six you don't need to lose weight? No it's a health thing as well. What? Well, I'll tell, do you know what Rob? Yeah. I'll tell you about this on Tuesday. Tell me about your health thing on Tuesday and let's just say

go and buy Richard Osmond's bloody book. Because he bloody needs it. He needs it. I tell you what, let's do, let's do reverse promo. Don't buy his book. Everyone's by it. A class act, parent in hell and neighbors twice a day. Do it. Do it. th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. tho. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. tho. tho. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. twice a day. By then. Do it. And why not Da Vinci Code? Yeah, fuck it. That's a good one, isn't it? Right, see you later.

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