Parenting Hell with Rob Beckett and Josh Widdicombe - S7 EP22: Nick Frost

Episode Date: October 6, 2023

Joining us this episode to discuss the highs and lows of parenting (and life) is the brilliant actor and comedian - Nick Frost. NIck's new cookbook 'A Slice of Fried Gold' is available now. Parentin...g Hell is a Spotify Podcast, available everywhere every Tuesday and Friday. Please leave a rating and review you filthy street dogs... xx If you want to get in touch with the show here's how: EMAIL: Hello@lockdownparenting.co.uk INSTAGRAM: @parentinghell MAILING LIST: parentinghellpodcast.mailchimpsites.com  A 'Keep It Light Media' Production  Sales, advertising, and general enquiries: hello@keepitlightmedia.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello, I'm Rob Beckett. And I'm Josh Winnockham. Welcome to Parenting Hell, the show in which Josh and I discuss what it's really like to be a parent, which I would say can be a little tricky. So, to make ourselves and hopefully you feel better about the trials and tribulations of modern-day parenting, each week we're chatting to a famous parent about how they're coping. Or hopefully how they're they're tha th hearing from you the listener with your tips, advice, and of course, tales of parenting woe. Because let's be honest, there are plenty of times when none of us know what we're doing.
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Starting point is 00:01:46 Hello, you're listening to Parenting Howe, with. Hi, Emmy. Can you say Rob Beckett? No. Why not? Because it's too hard because I can't say talk to say Uncle Adam's name. Okay. So Uncle Adam and can you say Josh Whittakum? Ah, that's one name.
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Starting point is 00:02:36 Lovely guy, Tom. From Graves End, went to score with Gemma Arterton. He did. He used to been a band with Hannah Arterton, who is her sister. He's getting a real the the the the the the the the the the the the th. I th. I th. I th. I th. He's, th. I th. th. th. He's, th. th. He's, th. th. He's, th. He's, th. He's, th. th. He's, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. He's, th. He's, th. He, th. He's, th. He's, th. He's, th. He's, th. He's, th. He's, th. He's, th. He's, th. He's, th. He's, th. He's, th. He's, th. He's, th. He's, th. He's, th. He's, th. He's, th. He's, t. He's, t. toge. tog. tog. tog. tog. t. tog. tog. tog. th. th. th. thi. He's, th. He's, th. He used to be a band with Hannah Arterton, who is her sister. He's getting a real lug. He runs New York comedy festivals now, I think. It's a tricky one to pin down the location as I'm from the UK, but now live in New York with her. He's very New York, his daughter. His daughter couldn't sound more American. Come on already, Pa- I can't do that. I can't do that. I can only throw on quantum. Is it gonna coffee really? I'm not sure that's what it's coming on. Come on off the sidewalk. What do you think, John?
Starting point is 00:03:15 I think it's awful. I've got a self-tape, mate. I want to get a job in my today. You nailed on, mate. I've never known anyone more nailed on for a job in my life. What are your other range of accents? Oh, anything you want mate, just fire him at me. Okay Chinese. Oh. Oh, Oh. Thank you for Tom for that voice. Nick Frost. Very exciting. Big fan Nick Frost. He's got kids. He's got a book out about cooking, and I want to ask him about something, Josh. Oh, go on, I like it when we do this. I've done some prep. You've done some prep? Well, after Ed Balls. You decided to find out who it is this time? No, but Michael sent me an email and it's got a blurb about Nick Frost book. Oh, I'm th and I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. th., did I? Oh, here we go. There we go. Oh, yeah, here we go. But he says he loves food and he wants his kids have a good relationship with food, like
Starting point is 00:04:09 waking up to the smell of fresh bread and stuff, but it also says he will wear a helmet when he cooks so he doesn't have to listen to the kids. Now, I'll ask him about this because I put headphones on, listen to the podcast, to cook, to cook, to cook, to cook, to cook, to cook, to cook, to cook, to cook, to cook, to cook, to to to to to to the to their, their, their, their, their, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, their, their, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, and I'm, like, like, and I'm, their, their, their, their, and I'm, and I'm, their, their, their, their, and I's, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their their their their their their their their their,tiding up and doing the dishwasher because I get it done quicker but I don't know if that's mean. Yes. If they're actively talking to me I will talk back to them I can take my airpods out. So when I cook I have a podcast or audio book on or the radio but I'll have them out loud. What was the podcast? What was the podcast? their their their their is is is is is is is. I I I I I I I I I I's is out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out. they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're their. their. their their their their their.a. I. I's their their their their their their their their their their their out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out about boxing. They don't hear that. They've already got the football on the telly that they don't want to watch. Well, we've got like a kitchen living area sort of thing. Like, there's a sofa in the kitchen, that's where they watch tele, because we've got a living room that's nicer that's, of course, fair enough. That's the issue there.
Starting point is 00:05:05 Have we got anything else we're going to ask? I quite like this new thing we do when we discussed the interview beforehand. I was thinking about this, I think we should tell people what they do rather than just say their names. Okay. Because I was listening to a podcast the other daythen they listed the other stuff they done. And I was like, oh, that's really helped me place them and has made this interview more interesting. And I thought, yeah, maybe that's what we should do rather than just going, hello Nick Frost and then just talking about them. Yeah, but I don't think you want to do it when they're there. Because I hate that when I'm being interviewed. Do you. Do to do. Do to do. Do to do. Do to do. Do. Do. Do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do the interview, do, do, do, do the their, do their, do thi. Do, do thi, do thi, do thi, do thi, do thi, do thi, do thi, thi, and I thi, and I thi, and I thi, and I thi, and I thi, and I thi, and I thi, and I th. And, and I th. And, and th. And, and th. And, and th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi. And, thi. And, thi. And, thi. And, thi. And, thi. And, thi. And, thi. And, and, thi. And, and, and, thi. And, and, is great gear. That is good gear. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. So when you
Starting point is 00:05:47 have to sit there for the first bit and they go, he's a legend of stage and screen. Oh yeah, that's horrible. So I think we could just say Nick Frost, he was in space. Interestingly like he was just a wait not just a waiter, but he wasn't a trained actor. He was just Simon Peg's mate who he'd worked with in a restaurant and then he got a role in space and then it's all gone on, he's done Shauna the Dead, he's done hot fuzz, he's then gone to Hollywood. I think Stephen Spielberg described him as like the greatest comic actor he's ever worked with or something like that. Lovela. Lo, about the wrestling family from Norfolk. Also, I just had a quick look online, and it says that he's in Super Nanny. It's Joe Frost, one of his characters.
Starting point is 00:06:32 I just don't know what, because I've gone on Supernanny, it just says Joe Frost, they're Nick Frost. Is that his wife? I haven't done enough for he's. Try work it out. Rob. What are you're what, that, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, th, what, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, the the the the, the, the, the, the the the, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the thi, the that, the that, the that, that, the that, that, the that, thi's thi out, try to work it out, try to work it out Rob, why are you doing it? Try and work it in. This is the good thing about us discussing beforehand that you could ask him because it's a perfect parenting question. You can say, do you have a naughty step? And then you'll know whether he is Joe Frost? Are you Joe Frost? Are you Joe Frost. I will ask him why he wears a helmet when he's cooking and are you Joe Frost? Are you Joe Frost? There are two questions.
Starting point is 00:07:08 I'm looking forward to this now. Not that I wasn't anyway, fucking hell, that was a bad slip of the tongue. No, I'm looking... You're a bit overworked. You need less on your plate. I'm actually happy to let this run for a the the the the to just, I' th. I' th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'll th. I'll th. I'll th. I'll th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm that. I'm that. I'm to to to to to the. I'm to to to to to to to tho. I'm tho'. I'm tho'. I'm tho'. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm to to to to to to to to to th. I th. I th. I'. I'. I'. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm the. I'm the. I'm the. I'm the. I'm the. I'm looking thean. I'm looking thean. I'm looking thooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo. I'm looking. I'm looking. I of hours. I've got time. Yeah, what you can do with your afternoon? I forgot. Breathe. Time to break. Now, I'm going to walk the dogs and I've got to sort the house out.
Starting point is 00:07:28 Oh, God, everyone's got to sort the house out. We've got big sort in the house out. Discussed in, Rob, we've got not everyone wants to live in the countryside. I think you're so obsessed with where I live. I think for the lifestyle you have and what you and Rose and the kids like to do, I think you should stay where you are. I think you should stay in Victoria Park. Oh, that's what you like.
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Starting point is 00:08:36 with your big heart. I'm just saying as your kids get older. They're going to be less interested in the garden. They're going to be less interested in their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their th. th. th. thi thi. thi. thi. ti. te. te. te. te. teat. te. to. te. te. te. to. te. to. their their their their their t interested in the garden. They're gonna be out taking crack. They're gonna get bigger, they're gonna need more space for their things. You can have like potentially four bikes in the front. Rob, Rose is never riding a fucking bike. Okay, two bikes. But I'm just saying where you're gonna put the storage, like built in cupboard somewhere? Yeah. But where? But where? thin't? th. th. th. they? th. th. th. th. they? th. th. th. th. the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. to? to? to? to? to? to? to? to? the the the to? to? to? to? to? to? to? to? to? to? their? their? their? they? they? they? they? they? they? they? they? they? they? they? they? they? they? they? they? they? they? they? they? they? they? they? they? they? to. toe? to. to. toe. to. toe. to. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe? toe? toe? toe extend the kitchen? No, it's a big old kitchen. Rob, don't have a go at the size of my kitchen. I thought you were changing the kitchen a few weeks ago? Oh yeah, we are, we are.
Starting point is 00:09:08 Oh, yeah, we are. So, how are you having to go to me? You're changing the... Oh, you're not extending it though, you're just redesigned it? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Right. I genuinely, I think. I think. I think. I think. I think. I think. I think. I think. I think. I think. I think. I think. I think. I think. I think. I think. I think. I think. I think. I think. I think. I think. I think. I think. I think. I th. I thi. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I tho. I tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. I tho. I tho. I tho. I th. I th. we contractually obliged to, we like it. You will get the storage of the kitchen, redo the kitchen, I reckon within five years you'll move house. I don't think we will. I think you know you will. I think I know we won't. I don't think we work. This is Nick Frost. Do we do a quick parenting tip before you can. Yeah, yeah, if you want to do a parenting tip. Yeah, if you to to to do their to do their to their their to their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their to their their their their their their their their. their their. their their their their their. their. their. their. their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their tip. tip. tip. tip. tip. tip. tip. tip. tip. tip. tip. tip. tip. tip. tip. tip. tip.15 and 14. We moved recently, we wish we'd done it sooner. It's been a nightmare having teenagers in a smaller house. And even though we've got a small house. Even though we saw storage would solve all our problems. You haven't got a small house, but you could get more space, I think.
Starting point is 00:10:00 Anyway, I've got two girls, 15 and 14. Evie was a nightmare staple, which didn't really... I just don't agree with storage. When someone buys a cupboard, you don't go, you need to move house. No, but it's like the entry drug. It's like smoking pot before heroin. I'm thinking of getting some cupboards. You know where you should go for cupoids. Foxstans, because you've got enough space for all your stuff, the word storage doesn't get brought up. Look, you haven't got enough storage space.
Starting point is 00:10:27 You either, just have less things or move. No, you don't. That's absurd. I'm just saying. I'm just saying, you haven't got enough space for it now. You haven't got enough space for it now. the same. I haven't got enough space for it now. We've got a baby, essentially. He's only two when he starts having things and growing up. He's got things now, he's got fucking things now, mate.
Starting point is 00:10:48 I tell you that, for him. My daughter came over from school the other day, have a guitar on a flute. Where you put in that in the week? What in the country? Because we didn't have room from a flute. Your shoe covered at the moment or wherever you're keeping your shoes, right? Fine, isn't it? Those tiny little feet. Wait until your old boy gets his old big size nine and tens. You've got a man living in your house. Have you seen the size of me and Rose? Let me put it like this, Josh. The house have kids. Well, I don't want another couple to move in with us. No, but I'm just saying, that's what's going to happen because they'll grow up and
Starting point is 00:11:25 you're just another two adults living in the house. I'm going to say it now. There's no way that my daughter could have more stuff than she's got the moment. Yes, she will. they're 15-16. We're not struggling space at all. We're not struggling with space. They're yours words. I'll bet you a hundred quid. Tell you what I'll bet you. Stamp duty. Fuck off. Not on zone two. Not doing that. You got on tellie before me. Anyway, I've got two girls, Ella, 15 and Evie was a nightmare sleeper and didn't really sleep properly for about five years. When they were little, we would read them bedtime stories and act out all the parts and
Starting point is 00:12:09 really get into it. The trouble was it just kept them awake for longer. I'll realize that when you tell them a story, you need to get less and less animated as you tell it. Eventually your voice their voice is is is is is is is is is is is is the voice is is the voice is the voice is the voice is the voice is the voice is the voice is the voice is the voice is to the voice needs to to the voice is to to their voice is to to to to to to to to to to to to their voice is.. to to to to their voice. their voice. their their their their their their their. their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their th. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. today. today. today. today. today. today. today. today. today. today. today. tod it works a... Well, that is a good tip. Cheers, fellas, keep up the good work, you crack us up. Josh's kitchen breakdown episode should win an award. This is from steam! P.S. Rob, can you say hello to my wife, Joss? She's your biggest fan. Hi, Joss. That's a good tip that is. Right. Should we bring on Nick. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. t. t. tod. tod. toda. toda. toda. toda. toda. tip. tip. tip. tip. tip. tip. tip. tip. today good tip that is. Right, should we bring on Nick Frost? Yeah. Send you a couple of links on Right Move I've seen for you. Oh, for fuck sake.
Starting point is 00:12:46 Do you do the intro, Josh, or shall I? Wow, it's very simple, in it. Nick Frost, hello? Hello? That was amazing. Yeah. Yeah. Well, we find it awkward. the intros, and thiiiiii. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi, thi, thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. tooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo. Oh, th. Oh, th end of them when they sort of list things you've done or describe you in a full and way, we find it a bit awkward and cringe. How do you feel about intros, Nick? A hundred percent feel the same way. Just my name was enough, it was great.
Starting point is 00:13:12 Perfect, I'm glad we're flying already. Nick, how many kids have you got? Can you let us know the set up at home? that I know about. I've got an older son with my first wife who's 12 and then I've got two lovely little children who are two and five with my, is the word current, seems weird because there's kind of scope for another so. Yeah, second, second. Second, second, second, second, keep her on our toes, Nick, keep her on her toes. Second implies there's going to be a three or four. I'm only 51, fuck it. I should just also point out that your first son is 12 because the phrasing did sound like with
Starting point is 00:14:00 my first wife who is 12. For a moment I was like, well this is a scoop. If your first wife is 12 currently then we're in real trouble with this child. We were together for 15 years as well so. Yeah it's the child who's 12. So you've got really little ones that are mental or non-stop and then you've got one sort of probably becoming a bit moody and moving into teenager so you having to switch between the two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two tw tw tw twe twe twe twe twe. tw. to to to to to to to to the to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the. I. I. We. Wee. We're the. I the the the. Wee. I. I'm. We're te. We're toge. We're toe. We're toe. We're toe. We're you having to switch between the two quite effortlessly? Yeah, I mean, I always thought that we've been up most of the night, my two-year-old who just been sick about two or three times in the night. So that was kind of annoying.
Starting point is 00:14:36 But I mean, that to me is easier than the 12-year-old, because that feels really basic and just like change a sheet, wipe a shitty anus. And then you sort the kid out, am I right? Sorry. And that's just my first wife. I'm allowed one of them a month on this show. They get served up so easy. It's not so, so apologies. But my 12 year old's like there's affairs of the heart now and his heart gets a bit correct and he likes someone. It's a lot harder because also as much as I just want to make it go away, there's also,
Starting point is 00:15:14 because I'm like a huge people pleaser. So what I want to do is just jump in and just fix it. But in fact what I should do is just do nothing. It can guide slightly, but I just need to let him feel what that emotion feels like. Otherwise you get to a point in your 20s and you just don't know how to deal with any of that's it. God, yeah, that is tough, isn't it? I think that's the hardest thing. I mean, I've got a seven-year-old, well, eight and six, mine, in the end of the year. It's that kind of thing where they're going into school now and there's friendship groups and they're my friend, they're not my friend, and I want to go here, and all this kind of stuff.
Starting point is 00:15:51 And that only gets sort of more intense as they go toothe them, but I mean, I think what being a parent, I've got two boys and the little girl and I think it's very important. I learned this quite a while ago, but I'm essentially wanting to parent good men like in their 20s and 30s and their 40s. I think people would just parent now until they're not children anymore and then you're on your own it's like well if we can do a good job of parenting good men then I think that's probably the best thing I can do as a dad. Well that's a nice way I think of it. It's the long game isn't it but you're playing the long game. You know you want them to know about consent and being a fucking good guy and not being treated like shit and I think for many years I had that weird thing
Starting point is 00:16:45 where I was like, can someone love me? Anyone? Can this really beautiful girl who hates me and treats me like shit? Will you love me a bit? I don't want them to do that. I don't want them to feel that, you know, so if I can, in a way, teach them that you don't need any of this shit, then that might be enough as a dad. Do you feel like, because you've got the slightly older child, that you've sort of learned that and made a few mistakes, not mistakes, but like, in the past, you may have got too involved in trying to help your child because your people please are,
Starting point is 00:17:17 whereas now you sort of learned to someone in the playground or told them to do this and do that or from the start was you always let them get in on with it? I'm always kind of a fan of sitting back and seeing what they can do, you know, seeing how they deal with it. I think with my older one obviously, not people pleased there as in the 12 year. People pleased are the 12 year. Yeah, yeah, people people people people people people pleased people people people people people people people people people people people people people people people people people people people people people people people people people people people people people people people people people people people people people people people people people. People p p p. People pleased they. People pleased they they they they they they th. People people people people people people people. People they they th, people, people who they th, people who th, people, people, people, people, people, people, people, people, people, people, people, people, people, people, people, people, people, people, people, people, people, people, people, people, people, people, people, people, people, people who, people who, people who, people who they, people who they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they're they're they're they're they're they're thi, they're they're thi, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, thi, thi, they're, thi, they're, yeah. For the kids. Yeah, yeah, of course. You're based in the UK, are you? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I live down in the south west of London. Because obviously you work a lot in America and Hollywood and stuff. So do you ever go out that much? Have you considered going out there with your kids? I did a job for CBS two years ago when we were there for 10 months. And so the kids were there and then I'm very
Starting point is 00:18:05 fortunate that my ex-wife and my wife now are friends and they hang out without me and they hang out with the kids and stuff. And so we were all there together and the ex-wife came out a few times and so I was lucky enough to have all the kids with me for quite a bit. Oh, that's brilliant because that can always be the the the my dad was married before and had two kids and stuff and it's so tricky because it's always different of like trying to get it to a healthy relationship between the kids and the other parents but yeah well the kids are together all the time so that is great with really me and the mums have the mums have really worked hard at it and fortunately I've an a a a a the the the the th... the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. I'm really really really really thi. thi. they're they're thi. thi. I's thi. I's thi. I's tha. I's tha. I's tha. I tha. I tha. I I tha. I I I I's is tha. I I I I I's is try. I I I's is. I I's tri. I's tha. I's tha. I's t. I's t. I's t. I's t. I'm t. I'm t. I'm t. I'm te. I'm te. I'm te. I'm te. I'm te. I'm tea. I'm te. I'm te. I'm try. I'm try. I'm try. I'm worked hard at it. And fortunately, I've an amazing partner now who's kind of great with it, because I know there are people who be like, no, sorry, she ain't coming around.
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Starting point is 00:19:21 God, I just didn't like it at all. I don't think there's been a firmer no to move into Hollywood there than that. Also I'm British, you know, my family here. I like it here. I like, yeah, I like our life. It's like there wasn't a life there. I mean, yes it was nice we could go to the beach kind of every day but you can't fucking swim because there's great whites everywhere. Not like the med, it's like, go on kids, you just have to watch them. To new friends. I don't find them that pleasant to be around. I guarantee you won't want to leave. Speak no evil is filled with teeth clenching, seek clangence.
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Starting point is 00:21:30 my kid bums, that's a good day. Like last night, I was like, come let's have a barbecue, come so like we had a barbecue and stuff and they like to kind of be around the colds when they're being lit. It felt good a bit and then it was really smoky and then I lost my rag because they wouldn't move back and I'm like, just move away! And then it didn't become as fun as I imagine. But we got nice burgers in the end, it was fine. As soon as all the smoke stopped and it turns just they can throw little bits of wood in and it was fun again. Because I've got ADHD too, so sometimes I just literally can't control myself. And I'm getting better at it since I've realized I do it.
Starting point is 00:22:11 I do get better at it, but I'm a great like shirt ripper. So sometimes if I get like angry or like I could feel a million emotions and I become out of control, I'll just literally grab my shirt and just tear it in off. The kids like it. When like an adult does something that's really weird. I find kids love that thing. Do you clock if it's a shirt you like? I don't give a shit it's gone. I'll go into the downstairs toilet clothes and then I'll come out with no shirt on. I mean know what's happened. I'll put t-shirt in the bin and like the kids who are like, Daddy where have your clothes gone? So is that a manifestation of ADHD
Starting point is 00:22:56 then like where it's just all a bit overwhelming and you need to let it out? Yeah I just get so over-stimulated and I don't know what else to do. I scream into pillows. Do you ever do pillow screams? Sometimes after sex. Not during. Not during. Just after. There are aspects of ADHD that the kids love, you know what I mean? Like, we have just millions of characters in the house, and we have Big Daddy Chicken,
Starting point is 00:23:27 and Daddy Ro- You can't squirt over Big Daddy Chicken. Daddy Robot's nice, because he's like a robot that drives the kids to school, but he has like a weird vibe where he keeps saying to the kids, would you like me to crash into another vehicle? And the kids kind of like, Daddy crash! They love the fact that Daddy robot might crash into another vehicle. And the kids kind of like, Daddy crash, Daddy Crash. They love the fact that Daddy Robot might crash into an oncoming vehicle. So you've got Daddy
Starting point is 00:23:50 Robot drives the cars. What's Daddy Chicken do? Daddy Chicken? He's just like a round every now and again. So if the kids are somewhere, I'll often kind of go, but, like, run out and then I'll just be like a massive chicken for about 10 minutes. Have you seen the dinosaur dad? It's online it's on like YouTube and on Tick Tock I think they go Daddy Dinosaur and if all three of the girls his daughter say it he just turns into like a Vlosuraptor but fucks shit up like like that. Japs their table but does it in public and stuff like that. And the mom is like mortified, and the kids are absolutely loving it.
Starting point is 00:24:28 That's cool, yeah. Yeah, there's bits like that. And I've usually put the little baby to bed every night, and my partner does, our five year old. But I do this weird thing where I pretend to be in the house. And then like I knock on the door and I slightly get his name wrong and he's puzzled. He's not sure why this delivery driver's in. And then I get him to sign his name on my phone like he's got a delivery. And then that delivery is always 60 kisses. Oh.
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Starting point is 00:25:37 So I'm not as bad as that, but yeah, I mean, especially when it comes to like loving him in front of friends or trying to hold his hand or give Daddy Kissy, give Daddy. Oh God, that. Get off. Get off! Yeah, I mean, being in a restaurant and making a noise is kind of embarrassing, but they like it. We do a thing because we live down in Twickenham and they all do it and they all get involved which I think is great and I love it but we have a thing about
Starting point is 00:26:05 how many rugby matches are into it like 20 but the whole place is just like rampac with men wearing pink cords and wax jackets and they're here for the rugby. We'll all drive around with the windows down and then whenever we see the big groups of men traveling toward twiken them we'll all shout individually things along the lines of come on rugby! It's really funny because like my five-year-old says play out the rugby! I'm trying really slowly past them when I think they love the batter. We shouldn't be doing it. And then I like try try tops really fast as well they love.. I love they they they love. I love. I love. I love. I love. I th. I th. I th th th th the th th th I think they love the batter. We shouldn't be doing it. And then I like try and watch really fast as well, they love it. What did you say your mate Smiley does?
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Starting point is 00:27:45 are they embarrassed by it? Honestly I don't think he gives a fuck. I was on the one show the other day and he sent me. He sent me or what's that? And all it said was, you look nervous. Oh no, God, didn't enjoy it or You look nervous. You know what he likes? He likes whenever I'm doing a film and there's a drone on set. He's all about the drone.
Starting point is 00:28:10 He loves that aspect of it. And he doesn't really, I mean, why would he? He's 12, but he doesn't really know why he wants to do, but I think I'd love to try and get him somehow onto a set at some point. Loads of money in drone work. Yeah, exactly. I say to me, if you get good at these things, this could be a career for you. Is here? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:30 Were you actually nervous on the one show? Was he correct or not? No, I don't give a fun. The only thing the one show is when they come in and say, I'm like, oh, why did you say it? Because now that's all I want to do. Well, I find the hardest thing the one show is making sure your face fits whatever video's just been on, because they're all just chatting like they're having a coffee. But then there's like a horrendous, like cancer appeal video.
Starting point is 00:28:55 And then like, it cuts back to you I'm like, what is my fairground safety? Say. You've been banned from the one show Rob though. So you're one of the few people that you know. No, I've been back on me and Romish got banned together because we were messing about too much. She's just so funny. And if you're on it with your mate, it's so hard not so hard just laugh at everything. Why would they ban that? It seems weird.
Starting point is 00:29:25 Yeah, I think it just was a little bit too raucous. Right. Too much energy for the one show. That's you, I've always said it, Beckett. What day was it? Oh, I can't. I can't. It's a half an hour one, oh, is the same. who used to play for Tottenham talking about badger coals. And I'm like, I can't, there's never gonna get a point
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Starting point is 00:32:18 So even as a kid, I'd just look at people and listen to their conversations and I think it was about learning emotions, do you know what I mean??????? the th th the the th th th the th th the th th th th the th the th th the th th the the th th th th th the th th the th thi the thi the their thi thi their thi thi their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their thi their their thi thi.. is their their their their their thi. Is it thi thi thi thi thi thi thi tra try tryyyyyanananananananananananananananananist tra' tria' thia' thia' thia' thi thir conversations and I think it was about learning the emotions, do you know what I mean? I'm writing back stories for people you've never met, you're like in the boots, wait for prescription in boots and you're like, who are these people? What's why you hear? That was always the thing I've always loved. So I think when it came to acting it was just a question of, I mean I'm being really basic here but just becoming that person and knowing their back story and knowing why they do what they do and how they feel and why they feel what they feel you know. Amazing and do you still want to be a novelist? Yeah I do I mean it's odd not being an actor that's a weird thing about writing a book too because it's like I didn't want't want to do that thing where, well, you're an actor and
Starting point is 00:33:05 I'm going to do this thing, you're a celebrity in some world, and now here I am doing a cookbook. Ha ha ha. Well, but you are properly into food, to be fair, like, on your social media, you can tell there's a real passion and love, but this is part, memoir, the food. thried gold, th, but, but, but, but, but, but, th, but, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, and th, and th, and th, and I th, and I th, and I th, and I th. Well, and I th, and I th, and I tho, and I'm, and I'm th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. And, th. And, th. And, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, and, th, and, and, and th, and th. And, th. And, and th. And, th. And, tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. thaaaaaaaaa. tha'a. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha, tha, tha, cookbook. It's called A Slice of Fired Gold. Fried Gold, sorry, Fried Gold is it. I just wanted it to be like, yes, I love food, I love cooking. Here's everything I cook at home for the kids and for my family. And this is why I do it. And then also there's some kind of flights of fancy.
Starting point is 00:33:38 And there's a story about Ragu and it begins the Reggoo recipe that I used and then I kind of really slowly just start to introduce these characters like an Italian lady called it Bianca is 16 and then she meets this guy at a wedding and her father's an alcoholic and it can never be and eventually they have a little kiss and then they fall in love and they have like loads of kids and then she dies her lung cancer in her eating. And then it goes to then add butter, you know what I mean? I love the fact that you can take a recipe and it become like a weird. I like that thing sometimes when you're reading a book or you're reading someone's kind of flight a fancy and you turn a page, you're like,
Starting point is 00:34:20 how the fuck did we get here? And I thought it would be fun if you could do that for a recipe book as well. Did you enjoy writing it? Because it's a completely different thing to do again. You're like going, I'm going to sit down and I'm going to do 2,000 words a day or how did it work for you? I don't really worry about the amount I do a day, but I'll get up and I'll sit at a desk at desk at desk at desk at desk at desk at desk at desk at desk at desk at desk at desk at desk at desk at desk at desk at desk at desk at desk at desk at desk at desk at desk at desk at desk at desk at desk at a desk at a desk at a desk at a desk at a desk at a desk at a desk at a desk at a desk at a desk at a desk at a desk at a desk at a desk at a desk at a desk at a desk at a desk at a desk at a desk at a desk at a desk at a desk at a desk at a desk at a desk at a desk at a desk at a desk at a desk at a desk at a desk at a desk at a desk at a desk at a desk at a desk at a desk at a desk at a desk at a desk at a desk at a desk at a desk at a desk at a desk at a desk at a desk at a desk at a desk at a desk at a desk at a desk at a desk at a desk at a desk at a desk at a desk at a desk at a desk at a desk at a desk at a desk at a desk at a desk at a desk at a desk at a desk at a desk at a desk at a desk at a desk at a desk at a desk at a desk at a desk at a desk at a desk at a desk at a desk at a desk at a desk at a desk at a desk at a desk at a desk at a desk at a desk at like 8 a.m. and I'll always have films on in the background or something shit like Outback Opel Hunters or Outback. We think the word outback in it I tend to enjoy. So that will be on in the background and I work until 12. I'll have like 40 minutes off to have a sandwich and a cup of tea and then I'll work until three. Nice. I do love that.
Starting point is 00:35:05 When I was a younger man, I wanted to be a novelist that kind of loved that vibe of, you want to write a novel but you never really write. And you just kind of you fall in love and it hurts so much that you can't move and you smoke a hundred cigarettes and you eat a kind of water. and you eat a then you see the woman you love and she's with someone else, you know, I kind of love that on we about writing some books and that's fine and I love that kind of romance about being a novelist but when you start writing films and television and they say, okay, so we need a first draft in four weeks. That kind of romanticized notion of what a writer is goes out the window pretty quick
Starting point is 00:35:55 and you have to learn that discipline of write any old shit and just get it down and then we'll fix it later. Do you think in your book that's why you've sort of got a few like flights of fancy, sort of like having a little go at that sort of novelty stuff of creating stories and characters. Was that sort of way to sort of express that? Because it is like about your life as well. I just wanted it to be a bit as fun as well. It wasn't I didn't just want to write, who am I to write a freaking recipe book? It's like, well, okay, so if I am going to write a recipe book, I want it to have a connection to things that matter to me in terms of family and food I love cooking, food I love cooking for people,
Starting point is 00:36:37 and it's going to be weird and funny and I'll get a chance to write little bits of fictionalized prose as well. And it's fun. You're writing there about like the beef stroganoff was your favorite growing up and your mom used to make that and you write about your mom being an alcoholic and as that got worse you took over the cooking and started making the beef strogan off for yourself and things like that. How does that feel where that was your childhood? And then now you've th th th th th th th the th th th th th th th th th tho tho tho tho tho tho tho thi thi thi thi thi thi thi tho tho tho th. th. th. the the the their tho-a. th. tho-a. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the thi thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. the. the. the the. the. the thrown. thrown. toe toe throwne. toeeeeeeeeeeateeateeatee. theat throoooooooooooooooo. the. the. that feel where that was your childhood and then now you've got kids the same age, you've got your 12 year old, which would have been you having to cook that dinner because your mom wasn't very well? Like, how does it make you feel as a parent now? Right now, today, I think I'm very, I feel very proud that they will never have to go through what I went through what I went through. And fortunately, after a long time, and th, that, that, that that that that that that that that that to to to that to to to to to that to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to cook to to to cook to cook to cook to cook to cook to cook to cook to cook to cook to cook to cook to cook to cook to cook to cook to cook to to to to to to to to to to to to to their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their thi, their thi, their their their their their their their their thi, their to to coo, to coo, to cook to cook to cook to cook after a long time of working through how I felt about my mom and my dad and my life growing up, I'm now at a point where as a 51-year-old man,
Starting point is 00:37:37 I fucking completely get why my mom did what she did, and I didn't for a long time, and it made me very resentful and very angry and as we all know if you sit with that resent and anger you yourself become cancer you know so I think it was about six or seven years ago that I suddenly was like you know what I totally get it totally understand and they will never have to feel that but in writing these books I mean my first book too was a memoir and this was a kind of memoir but it. it th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th that it that it's that it's that it's that it's that it's that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that ro that ro that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that th th that th th th th th th th th th th th. th. that that that that that that that tho tho that the thateeate thooooo. thoeate thoeate at thate that that that. But in writing these books, I mean my first book too was a memoir and this was a kind of memoir bias also about food, but my parents died and I didn't fucking know anything about them, you know what I mean? I didn't know what they were afraid of, what's your
Starting point is 00:38:18 favorite film? What do you like doing? Do you like spiders? You know what I mean? I think I have any of that stuff so at least right in their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their the the their their their their to be. their to be. I to be. I'm to be to be. I'm to be. I'm to be. I'm to be to be to be to be their their their their. I'm their. I'm their. I'm their. I'm their. I'm their. I'm their. I'm their their. I'm their th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm thi. I'm to th. I'm to. I'm toes. I'm toes. I'm toes. I'm to. I tooo. I'm too. I'm toes. I'm I think I have any of that stuff. So at least writing these things, there's a chance for my kids to be able to say, well, this is what dad went through and this is who he was a little bit. And I fucking hate the phrase legacy, but it's a chance to leave them something which isn't just me fucking off a radio because I'm mad or... Yeah, Yeah, exactly, it's something something something something something something something something something something something something something something something something something something something something they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they to to to to to to to to to to to to pick up. Years ago I went to the Barbican with my ex-wife, we went to see a play. I've got a really weird thing that if I can feel the bottoms of jeans like catching on the heel of a shoe, do you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah. If I can feel that, it just drives me more and more insane. And like we drove to Barbican and the traffic was shit so I had the ump anyway and then I could
Starting point is 00:39:09 just feel the bottom of these trousers just keep catching on the bottom of my shoes and so I got so umpy that I reached down and I essentially tore the jeans so they became chaps. And we're like in the foyer of the barbecum. And I'm now wearing denim chaps. To which point my wife just turned around and walked back to the car. And that was it, we never got to see the place. What is it about the jeans?
Starting point is 00:39:42 Is that something from childhood or something? It had to wear a bad pair of jeans too long or something? I just feel it catching underneath. I'm like, fuck that. Why? Maybe it's about why your stupid legs so small. Yeah. There's always some sort of strange catalyst for isn't there? Yeah. Do you think your son will, well obviously two of your kids are too young but would your 12 year old, will he read the book now? Do you think? He wants to. He keeps saying, oh can I have one, can I have one? His mom has got one. She got the um because I signed it. She said, well he's signed it. I said yeah, I wrote all the best. All the best Nick. I don't know maybe he's not the the he's he's not. he's he's not. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the th. th. the the the the the the th. Well. Well, the the the the they. Well, they. Well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, I'll the the the the the the the the the the the th. Will. Will. Will. Will. Well, I'll. Well, I'll. Well, I'll. Well, I'll. Well, I'll. Well, I'll. Well, I'll. Well, I'll. Well, I'll. th. Well, the the the the the the the the the the the the the today, I'll, I'll, I'll, the the the the today. Will, I'll, I'll's not quite ready yet and I think it would be more questions than answers.
Starting point is 00:40:29 Yeah. As much as you want to introduce your children and not hide things like addiction and alcoholism, personally I feel like you have to just start to sprinkle it in from now is. Did they meet your parents then? Did they meet their grandparents or did their grandparents? No, dad died 12 years ago, my mom died almost 20 years ago. If they've never met and they've got no sort of memory of them, but it's quite young to introduce that kind of stuff isn't it, I suppose? Yeah, totally. But part of that book is there are things that my mom cooked that I cooked and it and it they they they they they they they they tas tas tas tas tas tas tas tas tas tas tas tas tas tas tas tas tas tas tas tas tasks and it tasks tasks tasks tased tased they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they tas tas tas tas tas ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta they they they ta love it. So it's like, well, this is what your grandmother was. Yes, she was also these things, but she was also a great cook who at times wanted to
Starting point is 00:41:12 spiritually and physically nourish us. It's like an heirloom almost, a recipe, isn't it? Of like, this is what your grandparents, and if they cook that for their kids, it's sort of a connection, isn't it? Yeah, it's like a time. their kids. It's sort of a connection isn't it? Yeah, it's like a tie machine. It's like looking at all Polaroids and being able to actually physically feel what you felt when that polaroid was taken. Mind that, and I had a lemonade recipe, it was supposed to be amazing and everyone banged on about it and then they were trying to get the recipe before she refused to tell anyone. That's amazing. That's that. That's that she that she that she that she that she that's that's that's the recipe that's the recipe that's that's their she that's that's their she that's their she that's that's that's their to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to feel to feel to feel to feel to feel to feel to feel to feel to feel to feel to feel to feel to feel to to feel to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to thiii. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. I mean, that's God. But in a way, she's preserved the mystery,
Starting point is 00:41:48 because no one can ever go... No, I don't think that lemonade was that good. The lemonade now tastes better than it ever did when it existed, if you know what I mean? Because it's got these mythical qualities. Maybe she had an ego where she didn't want anyone to take the glory for what she'd made. Wow. Exactly. Honestly, I'm glad she's gone. I'm glad she's gone, Rob. Yeah, for that kind of attitude, you're right.
Starting point is 00:42:13 I agree with you. Yeah, keep your fucking lemonade. Yeah. Your fucking teeth rotting lemonade. Fuck off with it. Were your children fussy when they were small. I mean, two thi the the the the the the the the it. Were your children fussy when they were small? I mean, two of them still are, but like, obviously a lot of people struggle with getting their kids to eat, like, interesting things or like, be interesting food.
Starting point is 00:42:33 My two-year-old is, I mean this in, like, the most loving way, but she's a big, fat hog and chili anything. She loves it. Sometimes we've stacked together me and her for like 90 minutes and just grazed through food. She loves it. She trusts it and she really enjoys it. Now my five-year-old, he went through a phase of really loving stuff. Now he doesn't love stuff as much, although secretly he does, but he's
Starting point is 00:43:06 coming round. You can see him starting to now want to sit and want to eat and want to enjoy everything again. And my 12 year old again went through that phase of loved everything, thiii, but now he's being 12. He's really nice actually because when we're together and we're cooking, I'm always keen all the kids, if I'm cooking like something with a nice rich gravy in, I'll always be offering them little spoons of gravy. Literally every time they walk through the kitchen and I often find that that is a way of getting them to eat because they feel they've been part of its creation. They've done it, at least give it a try, won't they?
Starting point is 00:43:45 Yeah, I mean they're really good. The lot, I mean, my five-year-old does a thing where I have to keep my lid on because I realized they're not doing it to upset me personally. Made something and it was like a fucking three-hour braise. And it was just absolutely delicious. And we called my little boy to the table. It was really comedically really beautiful because he did a thing where he got about a meter away.
Starting point is 00:44:11 Then he rocked forward on one foot and looked. And then he rocked back and went, nope. And then just, let's just butt back off into the front room. It doesn't mean it, you know. And I know full well though, in like an hour's time when the pressure is off, because I think sometimes kids don't like that pressure of, now we're all sitting and eating, I know that he will come back and that plate will be completely finished. I think there's pressure though, isn't it? When you're an adult, sometimes I go around someone's up and I'm like, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, they. they, thi, thi, thi, thi, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, thi, and I' tho, and I'll tho, and tho, and tho, and tho, and their their, and their, and their, and their, and their, and their, and their, and their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, th.... And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, thi, thi, tho, tho, tho, tho, thoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo, and thooooo, and th. And I go around someone's house and they serve something up and I'm like fuck that but you're like no you must eat it because you're at someone's house and they've cooked it
Starting point is 00:44:48 for you you got to be polite. Well do you? Well no you can't just go I don't like to look at that fuck off at someone's house can you do you? Well listen I think the thing about being a really good to the their their to their to to to to their their to their tho tho tho thu thu thu thus thus thus their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their tho. tho. tho. thoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo. their their their their their their their their invited many places to eat. Right. Because people I think think there's a lot of pressure to get it right. But that said, we went out Sunday and we got a mate of ours who's a chef and it was just amazing, just delicious. The kids there, everyone, it was really nice. Really nice tree to not have to cook. Are you tempted to open a restaurant? No,'s like, I'm up at 5 a.m. buying fish. But unless you wanted to do something which was, I mean, what's in my mind at this point is,
Starting point is 00:45:38 and loads of people are doing it, but like 10 years ago I was like, let's just fucking do cheese burgers, just like, mash burgers, cheese onions and really good buns it's so simple that'd be a hit I did want to do a thing and I think someone's done it but like in the summer you get ice cream vans but I wanted to do a thing in the winter you get roast dinner vans so it comes around and you get like a cone of Yulcher pudding. And then you can have like roast potatoes, carrots, cheesy leaps, and then you just get gravy on top. So it's like a roast dinner bit in a tone.
Starting point is 00:46:16 Yeah, loads people do burgers. Burger King and McDonald's can survive together. Yeah, McDonald's becoming very popular. There's a couple of things I wanted to ask you for the book. He said you cook with a helmet on, is that correct? Like a crash helmet. Not at all. No, that's just bollocks for the blurb. Where's this playing the book I cook with a helmet on? It says it in the cell that we got sent in the email.
Starting point is 00:46:43 Maybe if I'm cooking bombs. To read what it says. Yeah, go on. It talks about your mom and the strogan off and you having to make it. And then it says, now as a parent himself, he wants his kids to have a different relationship with food, whether it's waking up to smell a fresh bread.
Starting point is 00:46:57 that that I will wear a helmet when he cooks so he doesn't have to listen to them. I don't have a fucking helmet. I've got little earbuds that I put in. That's what I do. The sounds of children's laughter is sometimes so hateful to me that I've got like little headphones in and stuff. Not a helmet though. Where's a helmet? It's weird I didn't write that. Someone's the publishers. Spicing it up. I'm surprised Alex Jones didn't th you th didn't th didn't th didn't didn't didn't didn't didn't didn't didn't didn't didn't didn't didn't didn't didn't didn't didn't didn't didn't thinks didn't the thinks thinks the the thinks thinks the, I didn't write that. Someone's the publishers, yeah. Spicing it up. I'm surprised Alex Jones didn't ask you on the one show about the helmet. So are you wearing a helmet when you cooked it? Maybe you had it on on the show, which is why you look nervous. Well, that's said now, I don't cry. That's a great idea. Also, you could just smash the fuck out of garlic,
Starting point is 00:47:46 simply by headbutting me. Yeah, yeah, and radios that don't work, just headbut them at the end of the garden. Yeah, any kind of meat you want tender eyes? Smash it up, just fucking- Or, on your chin, this is great. Let's split this three ways. What does Possible sound like for your business? It's having to spend to power your scale with no preset spending limit.
Starting point is 00:48:13 Redefine possible with Business Platinum. That's the powerful backing of American Express. Terms and conditions apply, visit MX. to business platinum. Why don't you ask Nick about the Joe Frost thing that we found when we were googling Nick's credits? Your IMDB says Super Nanny. Yes. Are you any relationship to Joe Frost, Supernanny? No it was just a weird... there was things years ago when I did it like we were married. She was my first wife. It's like no it happened to be Frost. I've never even met her. So was you on supernanny? I did the voiceover. Everything good I know about children come
Starting point is 00:48:49 from voicing three seasons of supernanny. And do you use any of her techniques? Cooking helmet. No I mean I'd never like that putting them on a naughty step thing because it just seemed like it it's fine if they stay there, but if they don't, then you've got that really horrible thing where sometimes when kids just completely lose their fit and you just have to hold them until the fight goes out of them. I was like, this doesn't feel right, you know what I mean? Yeah. I think I definitely have sometimes when my little five-year-old is like beginning to smash stuff up because he's so angry and he's just like, I'm now gonna just hold you for a bit, because I feel like you're gonna hurt yourself.
Starting point is 00:49:36 Any other tips from Super Nanny, Nick that you picked up really? You know what? It's always a parent. Really? Yeah, of course. I mean, a two-year-old's not just born a little b-is it? It's... It's... His parents have done that to him. Or a hundred percent. So I think there's lots to be learned there by whatever those parents do. Just don't do that. When you're doing the voiceover on something like Super Nanny, are you sat there watching the whole episode or you just blasting through it? Yeah, I'm just blasting through it doing like 10 episodes a day so unless there's like a really compelling storyline and I'm like, oh hang on,
Starting point is 00:50:15 can we watch this bit? Yeah. My question for you, Nick, is in space? Where was the house exactly? And does it get people who to the whole the whole the whole the whole the whole th? th? th th th th th th th th th th th tho, like tho, like tho, like tho, like tho, like tho, like tho, like tho, like tho, tho, tho, tho, like tho, like tho- like, tho- like, are tho- like, are tho- like, are tho- like, are tho just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just th th th th th th? th? th. th? th. th. th. th? th. th. th. th. th. th. th. tho, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, space. Where was the house exactly? And does it get people who go to it now as a kind of like Abbey Road zebra crossing? Okay so the house is in like Islington Tuffnell Park area and really weirdly my best mate and his family live in that house now. No. No, that's what. He came up for sale about five years ago and they said, yeah, we'll have it. They didn't, I mean, not big fans of space, but they bought the house because it's beautiful and massive.
Starting point is 00:50:56 So sometimes if I'm going to see him and then like there are people outside taking pictures, like Mike from space comes out of the Space House. Which is kind of weird for people. But yeah my mate Danny and his wife Bicke and their family bought it. And when it was listed did it say this is the house from spaced? Did they know what they were doing? I mean the lady that was there was the lady that was there when we shot there so she was like oh well we shot a TV show here and I thi and I th and I th th th th th th th th th th th th th and I th th th th th th th th th th. I thin th. I thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi their thi thi the their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their th. th. th. thi thi the. the. the. thea. thea. theat. thea. thea. thea. theat thea. the. the. the. when we shot there. So she was like, oh well, we shot a TV show here. And I think Danny was a bit stilm about it. It's lucky for the sale that it was called Space rather than cramped. Oh, that's good.
Starting point is 00:51:33 That's lovely Rob. Haunted. Yeah, haunted. Whenever we go and see houses, it's just to make my girlfriend laugh, but quietly I'll pull the estate agent out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out the estate the estate the estate the estate I'll pull the estate agent to one side and I'll say is it haunted? Do you know what I mean and they're never sure what's the mate and I'll always ask how much the house weighs? And again they're like oh I'll have to check that for you and I'm like all right okay. The other thing I do to make my partner laugh is when we check in, when we're flying to like LA or somewhere, I really quietly say to the lady who checks us in, are there toilets on board? But you never use the plane misdemeanor.
Starting point is 00:52:14 I can't believe that about space. That's an incredible coincidence. Yes, it's great. That's an incredible coincidence. Yes, it's great. It's your Sunwatch spaced. No, honestly I just 12 year olds like KSI and prime drinks Josh, not sitcoms. I just can't believe that times have changed this much. There's not much they can see. A lot of it's like, it's a decapitation or I did like six films last year all back to back and I was like half the time I was just covered in gore I'm like oh more fucking films my kids can't see but there'll be a time in that you know 181920 where you're like well there's 50 films here that that made let's have a look or let's just spin'em
Starting point is 00:52:59 is there anything you would do if your kid said look I know I know it's to do strictly. Oh oh oh oh oh oh the the the the their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their th. th. th. th. th. that's th. th. th. th. that's th. that's just just th. th. th. th. I's just just th. I's just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just th. th. th. th. th. Is th. Is th. th. Is th. Is th. Is th. Is th. Is th. th. th. th. that's thi. th. th. th. I's th. th. th. I's th. th. I's th. th. the. I's th.'s going to be embarrassing but we really want you to do strictly. Oh no way fuck them. I did a film called Cuban Fury years ago about a dancer and then I got offered Strictly off the back of that and I was like no but also for strictly I've noticed over the last however many years I've been watching it, they don't know how to dress fat people. They always end up wearing like just a big glittery blouse and they end up looking like a big fat egg. How would you dress the fat people on Strictly?
Starting point is 00:53:40 There's a question I didn't think I'd be asking on this interview. I wouldn't. I'd just let them be naked. Really long jeans at the bottom and rip the shirt off at the end. Pickers and long jeans at the bottom and then they have to tear the jeans off and there's like big gold pants under me. Definitely not doing strictly even if the kids wanted it. Never. Really even the Christmas special. It's only one day of filming. Two days of filming. No. Fick it. Fuck it. Should we ask a final question, Josh, unless you've got anything else you'll ask?
Starting point is 00:54:10 Yeah, do it. Do it. Do it. Anything about Sean the dead or hot fuzz? Like an absolute cliched, 40 year old? I'm just interested in people's careers. Yeah, I know. Neek don't to talk about fucking saced any thia thia thia thia thia thia thia thia th. thi th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. to to to to to thi. thi. to to to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be. Fish. to be. to be. to be. to be. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. toea. toea. toea. toea. F., do you Nick? Are you only 40, Josh? I'm 40, yeah. It's fucking terrible. Look, the final question that we always ask everyone is, what one thing your partner does, parenting-wise, that you're in awe of and you think, wow, she's amazing. Couldn't do this about her. And what is one thing that she does where you go, that fucking annoys me? And if she was listening, she might go fair enough, I get your point.
Starting point is 00:54:51 Let's say from the get-go, she wouldn't ever say, oh, fair enough, I get your point. Right, sure. This is just going to be a general thing but she's just an amazing mom, do you know what I mean? Like she's so calm and she's really patient, just really gentle, you know what I mean? She's just great. I literally have no downside to her, but the ick point, the ick bit would be, we're all busy, I get it. But if I'm saying to you, oh, could you help me just doing that thing? And then she would like hold a jumper up, she'd say, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the, is, is, is just, the, is just, the, is just, the, the. the. the, is just, thi, the, thi, th. th. th you, oh, could you help me just doing that thing? And then she would like hold a jumper up. She'd say, you know, I'm folding the children's jumpers.
Starting point is 00:55:29 Yeah, I get it. You've got kids. I get we got kids. You don't have to weaponize the kids to be a bit of lazy. It's like, well, can you help me? I'm making dinner for 15 people. Can you not just put that jumper down a second and just grab a bit of milk? You know we've got kids, Nick? You want to do your fucking braise?
Starting point is 00:55:53 We've got kids actually, but I've got jumpers. Yeah, I'm having to do four different meals because you're a fucking veggie. I think that's a fair point. Everyone's got little things that frustrating. She's amazing. you. you. you. th th th th th th th th th th th th. th th th th th th thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi. You thi. You thi. You thi. You thi. You thi thi thi thi thi thi thi. You thi thi thi thi. You thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi to thi to thiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi th I think that's a fair point. Everyone's got little things that frustrate. Generally. She's amazing, you know. Brilliant. Nick, good luck with the book. A slice of fried gold, part memoir, part cookbook.
Starting point is 00:56:14 Is it out now? When's it out? It is, yeah, it came out last firsty, so... Lovely. Sure. There's 1. million copies left. But I really appreciate you having me. Thank you so much. No, it's been an honor to have you on. We love you. Thanks, Nick, it's been a joy. Oh, Nick Frost, there.
Starting point is 00:56:33 What a lovely bloke, really nice. We did what we said we'd do. We introduced him previously, telling him what he's been in and done. Then we asked him about the helmet, which was a good thing to bring up because it's not true. Also, Rob, don't beat yourself up about slice of fired gold because the typo is in the email. Thank you very much. I thought that the old dyslexia getting me, but actually it's just been written wrong. So I don't know whether to sack Michael or the person that's sent it to him.
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