Parenting Hell with Rob Beckett and Josh Widdicombe - S7 EP24: Dame Jessica Ennis-Hill

Episode Date: October 13, 2023

Joining us this episode to discuss the highs and lows of parenting (and life) is the brilliant Olympic Gold medal winning athlete - Dame Jessica Ennis-Hill. Parenting Hell is a Spotify Podcast, available everywhere every Tuesday and Friday. Please leave a rating and review you filthy street dogs... xx If you want to get in touch with the show here's how: EMAIL: [e-mail] INSTAGRAM: @parentinghell MAILING LIST: parentinghellpodcast.mailchimpsites.com  A 'Keep It Light Media' Production  Sales, advertising, and general enquiries: [e-mail] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hello, I'm Rob Beckett. And I'm Josh Winnockham. Welcome to Parenting Hell, the show in which Josh and I discuss what it's really like to be a parent, which I would say can be a little tricky. So, to make ourselves and hopefully you feel better about the trials and tribulations of modern-day parenting, each week we're chatting to a famous parent about how they're coping. Or hopefully how they're they're th'll also be hearing from you the listener with your tips, advice and of course, tales of parenting woe. Because let's be honest, there are plenty of times when none of us know what we're doing.

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Sorry, Joshua, you're really loud again. Oh no, I'm having a shocker. Okay, how did I do this last time? My gain is at zero. Oh, there we're back. We're back. We're back zero we're back we're back we're back okay now look at the size of my sound waves on that thing that's going along the bottom why your soundwave so massive Josh right do you want me to start again oh Rob I've accidentally muted you you'll have to

unmute you you'll have to unmute me I've unmuted myself. This is horrible. What a disaster start. I genuinely, I know we like to be a little bit ramshack, but I genuinely think that is the worst we've ever been. Josh started talking about ripping files. He was too loud to the point where the graphic of the sound bar, went off the chart Michael muted me which is what are you that what's that so you can mute me yes a bit of a floor on the platform oh yeah definitely the platform's fault it's definitely not us the old platform anyway Josh who was that? There'll be a few people who've gone, I do like Jessica and this Hill.

And do you know what? I'm going to try this new bloggers. Yeah. First of all, what does rip it mean? Right. So what I meant was. What happened to you? I hadn't set my thing recording when I played the file. Yes, you weren't recording your sound, which I'd say is quite key. Yeah. Yeah. to. to. to. to. to to to to to the th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. I'd thi. I'd thi. I'd like, I'd like, I'd like, I'd like, I'd like, I'd like, I'd like, I'd like, I'd like, I'd like, I'd like, I'd like, I'd like, I'd like, I'd like, I'd like, I'd like, I'd like, I'd like, I'd like, I'd like, I'd like, I'd like, I'd like, I'd like, I'd like, I'd like, I'd like, I'd like, the the the the the I played the file. Yes you weren't recording your sound which I'd say is quite key. Yeah but I thought Michael because I was playing a sound file would just be able to use the sound file of... Sure. And where are we up to in that Michael from a sort of production point of view? Did we never actually confirm that? Did we all say? Can you rip it? Whatever? Can you rip it? Whatever? Ripper? It's going to rip the shit the shit the shit the shit the shit the shit shit shit th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th to th to to th th th to th to to th to to to to to to thatt th say say say say thatatatat- th say th say th say th say is th say is th say is that sound sound sound sound sound sound sound sound sound sound sound sound sound sound sound sound sound sound sound sound sound sound sound sound sound sound sound sound sound sound sound sound sound sound sound sound sound sound sound sound sound sound sound that's that's that's th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thatt. thatt. thatto that to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to that that that that that that ripper. He's going to rip the shit out that later.

You sexy and relatable pair. I'm mom of three boys under five. This is my middle child, Arlo 3 and Theo, four saying your names. With some slight babble from Marley aged 15 months. I absolutely love the podcast. Myself and my husband only discovered it last year. We all caught up and enjoy every single episode. Keep being a sexy tales from Chelsea, aged 396 months from Ronford. Oyoy! Oh, that was a good one though, I enjoyed that. I'd say so far the children have performed

more professionally and at a better level than we have so far, Josh. Also we've got such a big guest. Is this our firstame? Probably. My friend is from Sheffield and she was in a park once and he was watching this woman run and he was like Jesus she's quick. You know like sometimes you see runners it's normally like a middle-aged man shuffling about. Yeah. Jesus she's quick. She said it was Jessica and his hill. Wow. Just running around the park. I'm excited. I know, obviously we'll talk to her about parenting.

But it's a mad existent doing the heptathlon. Because you're doing like eight events. No, that'd be odd. Seven. Seven. Seven. Yeah, fuck. The classic all-sa. So she's basically good at all sports. She's good at everything. The thing is Josh, I remember watching Jessica Ennis as she was at the time

before she got married when she was like winning gold medals, right? And I was looking at her like she was a sort of grown-up, full adult woman smashing life. She's literally my age. She's three years younger than you. Me. So it's like this pathetic, what were we, I was just shuffling. I felt like a four-year-old watching her. Oh my God, yeah. So in 2012, was that when she won the Olympics? She was 26. Blamey. And she's got kids now and obviously retired from athletics. I'll be interested to ask her about kids and then resuming athletics.

That's something we've never asked before. She had her kids, she missed the 2014 season. And then she came back and won the world title. That is incredible. And then she got silver at the Olympics in 2016, so does she blame her kids for that? That's what I want to ask her. Yeah, that's one. Is it therefore you didn't have two gold medals? That's all I'm saying. You know so that's what is unfair about female athletes I think.

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Should we get on our dame? Bring on the dame. We're very excited by us. I think she's a listener of the pod as well isn't she did. to the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. to be. to be. th. to be. to be. to be. to be. to be. to be. to be. to be to be to be to be to be to be. to be. to. to be to be to be to be. to. to. to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to. If. If. If. If. If. If. If. If. If. If. If. If. If. If. If. If. If. If. If. If. If. If. If. If. If. If. If. If. If. If. I. I. I. I. If. I. I. I. I. I. I. I'm, th. I. I'm, th. I. I. I'm, th. I. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I and saying she contacted us as a list? She DMed you, Rob? Yeah, she DMed and I was like, absolutely Dame Jess Ennis Hill. So we're very excited to chat. Any other dames if you're listening? Judy Dench or Maggie Smith if you're listening? DEM away. Welcome to the podcast. Dame Jessica Ennis Hill, we're very excited to have you. Dame Jess, can I call you Dame Jess?

You can call me Dame Jess, yeah, I watch it. Our first Dame. I've never seen Rob so nervous to talk to some. Well, I'm talking to a member of the British Empire. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's NBA. Yeah, slash royal family, you know. So we're also very excited because you are a listener of the podcast as well, which always makes it more fun because you understand that it is. Yeah, yeah, for a century.

I understand the dynamics. So Jess, how many kids have you got and how old are they? So I've got two kids. One is just turn six. So that's my daughter, Liv and then my son Reggie was nine in the summer.. So, so, so th. So, so th. So, so th. So, so th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. thi, the thi, the the thi, the the the the the the tho, I the tho, I their, I the their, I their, I'm their, I'm their their, I am the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th, I I I I I I th. I th. I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I'm thi, I'm just just just just just just, I'm just, I am. I am. I am. I am. I am. I am. I am. I am. I am. I am today, I am just just just just, I am. I am. I am. I am. I'm just, Ied six, so that's my daughter, Liv, and then my son Reggie was nine in the summer. So, yeah. Kind of big kids now, actually. I still think they're like little, you know, like little dinky things, but they've changed

so much. I know yours a similar age, Rob. Yeah, when they get to that age, I don't they? Yeah. I can't believe your son's not. I know that sounds weird but I can't believe your son's nine because obviously because you had your son during your career. Yeah. I can vividly remember you having a child. Well not, it was a little bit worrying. Yeah, I'm vividly and it doesn't feel like that long ago but obviously nine. Yeah, I know. I had him, obviously had him in 2014, but yeah, I had him and then I came back to my career and, yeah, it seems like five minutes ago, but actually it's a very long time ago now. We did want to talk about that. What was that like resuming being an athlete after you'd had a child? Do you know I was just so naive,

like you have no idea what it's like to become a parent and although I was like so excited, you know, you're kind of like all the unknowns and you think that you have this like plan in your head of how it's all gonna work out. And I think being an athlete as well, you're so structured in what you do and everything's organized, everything's planned, you've got deadlines, like it's so structured that I almost thought that when I had my son he was just going to like slot into that like

routine and I thought that like you're a bit of a control freak like you just you just think that everything is going to be similar but actually it was just it it was the biggest shock you know becoming apparent for the first similar, but actually it was just, it was the biggest shock. You know, becoming a parent for the first time, but also then trying to get back into training, trying to get back into competition, trying to get everyone around me to buy into the idea that I was actually going to come back, like I was still going to. Did people not believe you? Yeah, I think quite a lot of people doubted what I was trying to do and definitely people

like within my like team as well, they were like, you know, you sure you want to come back? You know, things are going to change quite a bit and I was like, yeah, they're going to change, but I'm going to come back, it's fine. I'll take a few months off and then I'll just get back to normal. When did you have your, was it 24, when in 2014? So I had him July 2014. Right, so you weren't, so in 2012, 2012 you'd won the gold medal at London. So then, were you trying for the baby in between the middle of the Olympics then? Or was it just a happy accident or was it a bit more relaxed?

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because he'd had all this plan. Like, he was like, right, you're gonna do the come the come the come the come the che. the come-off games in 2014 and then World's Olympics like he had this plan. And they're planning their their schedules around it as well because it's sort of a long-term thing yeah. Yeah their whole life is you know when you support an athlete their whole life is around you performing and I remember going to his house and just been like um okay so I've got something to tell you I was so nervous. I was like, oh God. Sit down. I was like, well, so I'm pregnant.

And he was just so shot that he didn't know what to say. He just kind of sat there. And then he got his laptop out and he started looking at dates. He didn't even say congratulations. He was literally in such a fluster, like what dates, when's he gonna be born, when's she gonna be born, you know, like what's gonna happen? But I was just sat there like, okay, congratulations, you know, anything like that would be nice. But yeah, it was a big, it was a big shock to the whole team, but obviously a great shock.

How many months after did you do your first training session? So I kind of like went back into training gradually, so I went on the bike for a bit, you know, I kind of got a setup in my garage where I could do like some exercises and stuff, so I wasn't like traveling to and from the track all the time. And then I didn't really start, I'd say probably like eight to ten weeks after I had him, I started doing, you know, gentle exercise, but I didn't start like hurdling or high jumping

again at that stage or anything like that. But yeah, it was very much like a gradual buildup like back into training. And did you find your body had changed, you know, after, because I find women after they have children, their body does sort of hormones are different and then, and then, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thin, thin, theea, to, to, to, thea, thea, thin, thea, thi, thi, th Because I find women after they have children, their body does sort of change shape and the hormones are different and things like that. Because as an athlete, everything's so fine-tuned down to what you're eating and how your body reacts. Did you find that there were certain things that you couldn't do as well?

Or you could even do better after anything? initial impact of the birth. It was the same or was it different? No, no, completely different. Really? Yeah, completely different. I am, you know, everyone that has a baby a few months after you like, look down, you're like, oh, like, why do I not look the way I used to look? And obviously, I had like, I was totally ripped, like I had a massive six pack. I don't mean to brag but I had a six-pack and you know really kind of strong and then obviously your body changes so much and it's it's amazing how much your body like just transforms and you know you can carry your baby and it changes in an incredible way but yeah when I got back to training I like I was definitely not the athlete that I was before my body had changed like mentally I changed massively like your priorities all change. Like your priorities all cha chaned change the the the the the the the th change th change th change th. My body had changed, like mentally I changed massively.

Like your priorities all change, you know. Yeah, did it feel like it mattered less in a way? Yeah, I think you just have like a greater perspective. So I felt like whereas before I'd had Reggie, everything was like very much. It's about me, it's about how I train, it's about how I can be the best. And then once you have your baby, it's like, well, actually none of that really matters that much. And it's how do I be the best mom and you know,

how can I do all those things really well? And it's about your child, isn't it? So you change, you you you about transition from athlete to mother is huge. Yeah, because it's not even just like the time where like, you know, obviously your partner can have the baby and look after the baby, and even if you did less of it, your partner does more of it, there is a direct impact on the body as such, you know, and was you slower and then in your running and stuff like that, even when you was back to full fitness or was there anything in particular you noticed it that you couldn't do as well?

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like front of the pack, you know, beating my training buddies and just like I always had this like next gear that I could go to. I was really confident in that, whereas after I'd had him, I was like, oh man, like I can't even get to the top of the hills and hill runs and yeah, I was just really, really struggling. And that's like quite a mental impact as well when you're at the back of the group in training but you're Olympic champion and everyone's expecting you to keep them. It's tough like it's mentally really really challenging. And you're doing that along with all the stuff that you do when you've got a new kid as well so your sleepless nights and was he a good sleeper? Do you know what looking back he I'd say he was like a typical like average babies like sleeping

my eyes, like he slept, he was like up a lot of the beginning and I was like feeding through the night and stuff, but he then got into a bit of a rhythm where he'd sleep for like four hours and that's like dream isn't it, you know to have like four or five hours sleep like that is an absolute you're winning there. My sister-in-law's got a newborn and I overheard Lou chatting to her mom about it and going yeah well last night she got two hours in a row and I'm like oh brilliant great news and I'm like oh my god I literally I can't how you do it. Like I can't take myself back to those days, like, you know, being up all through the night and then

I'd have to get up and train in the morning and then you're back at lunch and like it was just crazy but I don't know, you just do it, don't you when you would have been at like the most you know you were the poster girl really of the Olympics and you was all in all the advertising all your stuff with Adidas as well so not only have you won the gold you're in your sort of like opportunities are flying at you ever its brands and stuff like that and then you're at sort of home with the baby and and then trying to juggle training and you sort of must be quite frustrating because you want to make the most of those opportunities. Did you find it quite conflicting? I found it challenging because it's still like for athletes, like female athletes, it's still like a massive gray area like having kids in your career and stepping away for a bit and then coming back.

Like with sponsors and everything, it's still very, there's not like a maternity package, it's not like there's a standard way. So if you're not there performing, you their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their the. It's thi. It's still thi. It's still thiolets. It's still still the. It's still still still still still still still still thi. It's still still still still still still still still still still still still still still still still still still still, thi. It's still still still, th. It's still, th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's thi. It's not, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, the. It's not, theat. It's not theat. It's not theats. It's not like, like, like, theats. It's not theats, thi's not thi's not their th it's not like there's a standard way. So if you're not there performing, then you're not, you know, your deal stop and it's really dependent on who, like what companies you work with. And I was super fortunate, like obviously working with Adidas for years, they were fantastic. You know, they just freeze my contract and then, you know, just carry on, pick where you left off essentially. Whereas for a lot of athletes, know you step off the track for a period of time like a season and you know you lose a lot of money and a lot of yeah a lot of deals.

But that happened with an injury as well. Yeah so being injured yeah there's like you'd have like a bonus reduction and obviously you're not competing so you're not brutal. Oh my gosh. And it's so unfair just like like just genetically where like men won't have that with like they can have a family and their body won't be impacted at all but it's almost like coming back from a serious injury isn't it being going through labor and having being pregnant and giving birth it's it's mad to having that in the middle of your career. Yeah, and it's the whole like, how do you go through your pregnancy and then like say, how's your birth?

Like, you know, you have no idea how that's going to pan out. And then it's like, how do you recover from that? How do you get back? And yeah, I mean, there's so many challenges. But equally, like, in the same way, it, it, it, it, it, it, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, th. th. th. th. th. th. that, th. that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, th. th. th. th. th. to have him and come back and then win a world championships and then win a silver medal at the Olympics again was pretty special. Can I ask a dissentive question here, Jess? Do you think if you'd had your child three years later? Do you think if you'd had your child three years later? It at night, Jess, when you're wiping his bomb? It's a very good question.

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But it's expensive because he would have been over two then you would have to pay for a seat to get him to Brazil you don't be doing that. Do you know what what what what what what of that was the journey that my husband had to take with him to Barcelona because he was like two and obviously like two rolls on flights are not fun. And I remember just meeting my husband at the airport like so excited to see them and he was just like sweating he was sweating he looked so stressed and Reg she had like the reddest face and I was like what happened he was like I'll tell you what happened he didn't want to let go of his bunny on the flight he wanted to shut the windows and obviously you can't like yeah the

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You've got, you can't be getting up with a kid the night before you're competing the Olympics. No. Oh my gosh, no. I mean you need ball sleep, yeah. For two days of competition you need, you need your rest. And if you aren't, you know, happily married with kids, Josh wanted to know this. Is the complete fuck festthe complete fuckfest we all imagine it is? Is it like the Love Island after party? Because look, all I say, because through the last leg we've done a lot of work at the Paralympic the Olympics and there's a lot of chat that is basically fresh as week at the yeah in the in the Paralympic village. I mean I wouldn't know I wouldn't know essentially far. I've gone so you wouldn't Dane, Jessica. Obviously. But yeah, I mean, there's a lot that goes on in the village.

There's a lot that goes on. There's just so many different types of people and athletes. And you know, when you're training so hard like all the time and you can never let yourself go or switch off. And then you put everyone into that environment together and then I'm sure you know like you know the swimmers finished quite early on in the schedule so they're all like really excited and then athletics finishes a little bit later so there is like this whole sexual like vibe going on like everyone's just so like but everyone's like buzzing because

they've won or they're sad. Also, everyone's fit. Yeah, exactly. Everyone's like new athletic and everyone's yeah either like buzzing like you say because they've done so well or they've like, you know, totally fucked up and yeah and then want to celebrate so yeah. Miller Light. The light beer brewed for people who love the taste of beer and the perfect pairing for your game time. When Miller Light set out to brew a light beer, they had to choose great taste or 90 calories per can. They chose both because they knew the best part of beer is the beer. Your game time tasks like Miller time.

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capitalist, but I think if you're going to dedicate your life to the sport, you know, you might as well go for them. I think I think by the time your children are older Rob, that there'll be a lot of daughter up from her football and she had her boots on the wrong feet and she'd scored so I don't know if she's found a new technique. Oh gosh. She was getting some prejudice swaz on it. Yeah but we've been going out like that bin round. I mean that's impressive. And do your children get on with each other? How's that going? Because at six and nine? tho tho tho tho- th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th tho th and tho-in their tho-in their tho-in tho-soe their their tho-soe. tho-soe. tho-I tho-I their their tho-I tho-I tho-I th. their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their to toe. toe. I toe. I's toeateat toeat toeat toeat toe. I toe. I toe. I toe. I toe. I toe. I toe about when they're really finding out who they are I suppose. Yeah, do you know, well this morning they were wrestling on the bed and like my son, I don't know about your first children, but I feel like my son's like quite sensitive and he's quite emotional and he'll get upset about things and if he's done something wrong

he'll you know, he'll like eat away at him a little bit where my daughter's just pure like sass and like she's just she's just brutal so this morning she literally was sat on his head on the bed just and he's like can you get off me please live can you get off me and I'm like can you get off him so they do like they they battle like that but I think generally they get on quite they the the the the the they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their theirthat but I think generally they I think they get on quite well most of the time. So how old were they when you retired from athletics full-time? So I had to live as good question. I don't want to say full-time as if you do it part-time just do the odd high jump. I do high jump every Saturday morning for three hours.

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Yeah, so no, I mean we've got family quite close to us so we were really lucky. So like my mom and dad had help and his parents would help babysitting so we'd have like this kind of shift thing going on and then my husband works in construction he's a planner so in that world it's pretty much like frowned upon to like have flexi hours and like you know it's like you go in at six o'clock and you work till five it's like this very yeah rigid world of working and then actually when I think when we had live I know when we had Reggie he went to work and said, look, I need to do some flexing hours because, you know, my wife's going back

to competing and trying to make the Olympics and I need two days where I can be flexible. And they actually let him do it. So, really, that's good. Yeah, which was amazing because it was before COVID and everything and it just wasn't the thing that you did in that industry. Well those sort of like construction industries are still very sort of blokey mail heavy where it's literally you get on size six you works about three or four then you go home and it's that yeah five days a week and that's it. With big chubby strong hands. Massive blogans. And can you shed any light on how they get those big strong hands hands hands hands hands hands hands th hands th hands th hands th hands th hands th hands th hands th hands th hands th hands th hands they they they th hands th and they they they they tham tham tham they they they tham they tham they the they they to to to to thi to to to to to to to to to to that that that that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's they they they they they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they they they they they they they they they they they they to they to to to thus to thus thus thus thi thi thi thi thi their thi their their their thoooooooooo to to to to their thooooooooes their their they get those big strong hands?

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Good thumb thumbs up all around. And so you said that you're not like that fast, what are you with them getting into athletics or whatever, you just want them to kind of find their own way. What are you guys like as parents? Are you, you don't seem, you're very kind of jovial and smiley and friendly as a presence. I can't imagine you being a stern disciplinarian. Although as an athlete I suppose you had a strong discipline right? Yes I was very like everyone would say when I was competing like oh just is so smiling and nice but then when I'm on the track I was like business like my

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country air you need to feel a little further out you know it's a nice environment Josh look at me at my face look at me at Jessica Ennis's look at us just look at just look at happy with me my little I know that's not a professor's got in gastro pub. We don't need that. We don't need that. We've got Toby Carver in Arvester. The kids love the cellar. And this is a, I'm just a, you know, a Dame, you know, gold, gold medal when the makes great decisions and is focused, you know, so. How is getting, how was getting your dame? Who did you, who did you get? Did you get the queen? No? th. the the the the the th. the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. I th. I th. I the the th. I'm, th. I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I I, I, I I I, I I I, I, I, I I I I, I I, I I I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I. I, I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I, I, I, I, I, the, I, the, the, the, the the th. I'm, th. I'm just, th. I'm just, th. I'm just, th. I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, the the the Queen? No, so I had my CBE from the Queen. Oh, here we go. Double bubble, here it is. Yeah, which was very, very special.

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your vows come on reaudals. I was listening to that as your husband I'd be worried about your reaction to that. I mean yeah maybe we'll renew our vowels can you do that as well? I don't know I'm'm not made that up. Josh, have a question of a just why don't you have a look at the perks of being a dame or what's the male equivalent of a day? Which is a weird thing for me to Google. The perks of fame. Okay, you carry on Rob with your question. I'll find out some things. you know being a heptathlet where it's sort of everything essentially was you naturally good at staff and then you you and you enjoyed it or did you really sort of have to graph for it or obviously it's a combination of both to get to the level you got to but were you a natural when it

came to sports? I think I don't know I didn't necessarily feel like a natural, like as a kid I was just like really small, like super skinny and just like not really that coordinated. But I think what I started athletics and I was like 10, like I went to summer camp and it was from that point that one of the coaches was like, oh, she looks like she's got some kind of ability. Yeah. So I don't know, I probably had something, but I think it took you know being in the right place in the right environment and then like say all the hard work and like dedication to yeah to kind of get into that point but I also like I'm so indecisive as well like I can never decide on what to do and what I want to do and that kind of things.

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We're not quite, yeah, we're not five six. We're five six. Well, I'm not sure. I'm not 165 then, maybe I'm not one to have definitely 56. Slightly more. Anyway, anyway, how do you jump at 195 which I could reach? I don't know, like High Jump was just a good event for me. I just think I'm actually quite springing. Sorry, sorry. Everyone actually got it swinging. Everyone's reeling for that. Highdum was good for me. Highdum was good for me. And the hurdles, the hurdles were too good events.

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was called wasn't it that? Super Saturdays sorry. Quite an iconic day I was at the Edinburgh festival yeah I missed all of it. I didn't watch any of the Olympics because I was at the any of the festival. Oh right the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the iconic the the the the the the iconic iconic iconic iconic iconic iconic iconic iconic iconic iconic iconic iconic iconic iconic iconic iconic iconic iconic iconic iconic iconic the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the at the Edinburgh Festival. Yeah, I missed all of it. I mean I missed all of it. I didn't watch any of the Olympics because I was at the Edinburgh Festival. Oh, God. Oh, God. Oh, God. Oh, God. And the Scottish don't really care about Team G.

the tea if they're honest, unless it's a Scottish person. But it was you, Moe, Farah and Greg. what Rutherford he got on some coattails that day didn't they absolutely no one gave a shit until that day then he's with the Edison Farrah he absolutely had it off didn't he Rutherford what I had he had a great day he had a great few years old Rother no no but the kids the kids have watched yeah they've watched bits back and I think I think they're a little bit impressed, but they're not, like you say, it's your parents, isn't it? So they're not, whatever you do, they're not really that impressed until they get older. So the issue is though, Jessica, what will happen is when your boy and your daughter get

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Oh my god, so it's going to be everywhere the home. There's pictures of me everywhere and there's the sports hall which is named after me as well. Wow. Amazing. Imagine struggling to throw a beanbag in the sports hall named after your own mom. And on the war is your mom. It, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, my old, my old, it, it, it, my old, it, it, it, it, it, the old, thol, was my old, was my old, was my old, was my old, was my old, was my old, was my old, was my old, was my old, was my old, was my old, was my old, was, was, was my old, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was my old, was my old, was my old, my old, my old, th the old, my old, my old, the old, the old, the old, the old, the old, the old, the old, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the old old, my old, my old, my old, the old, the old, the old, the a beanbag in the sports all named after your own mom. And on the war is your mom in running gear. It's a sink back. It's awful. It gives me such stress and anxiety because I'm like, yeah, it's just bullying material, isn't it?

Whether it's good or not, like kids are just brutal. I don't know. If your moms are scary, if your mom's, your mom's, if your mom's the mom's, it's your mom's, your mom's, your mom's, your mom's, your mom's, your mom's, your mom's, your mom's, your mom's, your mom's, your mom's, your mom's, the the their mom's, your mom's, your mom's, your mom's, your mom's, your mom's, your mom's your mom's your mom's your mom's your mom, your mom's your mom's, their mom's your mom, your mom, your mom, your mom, your mom, your mom, their mom, their mom, their, their mom, their, their mom, their mom, their mom, their mom's, their mom's, to to to to to to to to to to to their mom's, their mom's, their mom's, their mom's, their mom material, isn't it? Whether it's good or not, like kids are just brutal. I don't know. If your mom's as scary, if your mom's as mussel as you're that picture of you on the wall, then surely not bullying him. But it's also, I do think that kind of thing, there will always be something you can be picked on by other kids. And it's a life lesson as you grow up with bullying. lesson as you grow up with bullying it's just harder when you're a kid because you haven't learned about life and you're still developing physically and

emotionally that essentially whatever anyone says to you it's not what that they say it's how you take it in and react to it that determines how it goes so you know if you got yeah yeah that's right my mom won a gold medal and she's got six-pack yeah so what's the problem yeah yeah that's like that's the that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's so what's the problem? Yeah yeah but it's like it's happening yeah what's your problem I'll get my mom on you yeah my mom's fit and she's one of gold medal and what? Yeah but it's it's a confidence like kids at that age they don't necessarily have that confidence of course it's so difficult like everyone else don't you just want to blend in so yeah it's tough but we'll see. Have you taken him to Bramle Lane? No, he said he's not into football, like both of them are not like some of my friends' kids are absolutely obsessed with football.

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want to give your kids like amazing opportunities and give them things that you've not had yeah of course how do you stop them getting carried away and and you know like I I I I I I I I I I I I like like like like like like like like like the kids the kids the kids the kids the kids the kids the kids the kids the kids the kids the kids the kids the kids the kids their their their their the kids the kids the kids the kids their their their their their their their their their their their their their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. their the. their their their their their the. their their their their that you've not had. But then how do you stop them getting carried away? And, you know, I'd say to the kids now, like we've got a gate at the front of our house. I'm like, you are so lucky to have a gate at the front of your house. Like, we have a gate, we have a drive, you know, we didn't haveudge and a reminder that actually this isn't necessarily everyone's reality and you are really really looking. Yeah.

You don't have a bit of a bit bullying with it almost it feels like because it's like they can't they've not chosen it and it's not up to do them but you want it's sort of just reminders of stuff but it's hard. It's tough. It's tough. Your dad was Jamaican, right? Did you have like a lot of that? He still is. He is still is Jamaican, yeah. He still is Jamaican. He wasn't a phase, no? Yeah, he went into really Jamaican face.

Actually, it was quite offensive in many ways. He was just pretending to be Jamaican. Did you have a lot of that culture coming through, like, when you were a kid? And do you try try try tha tha tha tha tha tha tha tha tha tha tha tha thuuui that that that that that that that that that that that that thatia to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have that culture coming through like when you were a kid? And do you try and carry that on into your kids and how do they relate to that? Yeah, so I actually I did some film in the other well a few months ago and did I did who do you think you are. Oh yeah, I loved it. We kind of went back, it's not been on yet, but we went back into that whole, yeah, we went back into that whole, we went like our whole like family and movies and stuff which was incredible. I took my dad with me as well and he'd not been back to Jamaica since he moved here in 1963 or something so he'd never been back. So it was such an amazing experience but yeah like growing up my dad would always like cook Jamaican food. We had like a banana tree in the window.

Like, he was very much like, I'm bringing like the Jamaican vibe to like the family and, you know, want us to kind of know where like we're from. And that's definitely like carried on like now for our kids. Like my kids absolutely love Grandad and they kind of love his Jamaican food. They're always like, oh is he bringing Jamaican food around? Like we love his dumplings, we love this, like it's just, yeah, really nice to have that. Oh that's great. Yeah. And he's still Jamaican. He's still Jamaican. He's still Jamaican. It's still Jamaican. It's still Jamaican. It's still Jamaican. Great free holiday. If not the BBC are going to want a refund. I've flown to all Jamaica and he goes, I'm just pretending actually.

Great free holiday. I've got a banana tree and cooks Jamaica. I might have started pretending my dad's from the mauldees and see if the BBC will take you back there for a couple weeks to reconnect my roots. I've made your dad, what are you like at the school gates? Because you're very polite and obviously very smiling and happy, but are you just constantly got parents coming up to or do you not get involved and you're just in and out, drop

them and run? What's your process at the gate? Because there are always sort of parent drinks and things like that. Do you go to them or do you not engage? What are you doing? So I didn't know what I'd be like before a start because it is like you're thrown into a new world aren't you and you've got all your like friends and you've got your friendship groups and everything's established but then you're just thrown into a world of like random as really. Yeah and then your kids flip-flop around different friends so it's all different people you've got to interact with. And it's so hard because... Everyone must be desperate to hang out with you at the school gates, right? Well, I... It's like, Liel, look who's here! I don't know. I think it's something that I was like

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but you haven't brought up with them. Well, it's hard because I can think of lots of things that, I mean, I love my husband, but there's lots of money. But the holiday thing for me is just that really annoys me. So whenever I'm awake, because I'm here most of the time, like I can do a lot of work from home, zoom and everything, but I do have to go away for like short bursts. Yeah, especially with athletics it's all around the world isn't it? Yeah, so you're kind of off. And he always says to the kids, oh mummy's on holiday, you know, mommy's just having another holiday. And you know what, it's funny the first time,

I'll give him that, he's a funny guy, but, you know, when the kids are like casually saying, oh, but you know when we went and did that thing, but you were on holiday, mummy, and they generally, I'm like, no, no, mommy's working. Mommy was working. Turn on the TV, she's sat next to Claire Baldwin. That is not a holiday. Yeah, mom is working. She's watching athletics in Barcelona. But actually, it's quite stressful. It's live TV. Yeah, exactly. So that, yeah, that would be the one thing. Because I don't, you know, when kids are little, like, I don't want them to grow up and have this perception of like, oh, mommy was always away.

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And you guys are just like, yeah, you know. Hey, I'm thinking about the tomato plants in the garden. Did Rosewater them while I was away filming? Let's not get into that now. Mental load. That's a huge mental load. Jess, thank you so much for doing this. It's been such a joy. Thank you so much for doing it.

Have you got anything to plug or anything? A book? I don't have a book. I've got who do you think you are coming out next year, but I'm actually doing quite a big event with the Children's Hospital, which is a Sheffield Children's Hospital next year and it's all raising money for children's mental health. So we've got quite a big campaign going on. It's going to be every young mind. And yeah, we're just trying to raise awareness about children's mental health. It's their try and to to raise a the their forgotten a little bit and yeah trying to shine a light on it and raise a bit more money. I'm actually doing it with John Richardson I know he's a... Oh he's brilliant John he's a great guy. Well once once once it's all set up send us the info and we'll give it a shout out

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I tell you what I did expect to say today, Zika. theyce. thiii. And when I was on Jesse's Wikipedia, I just saw Zika and I remembered it and I thought why not shut that in. There we go. Right, Josh, I'll see you next week. See you next week. Bye. Bye.