Parenting Hell with Rob Beckett and Josh Widdicombe - S7 EP31: The Parenting Hell Mixtape

Episode Date: November 7, 2023

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Hello, I'm Rob Beckett. And I'm Josh Winnockham. Welcome to Parenting Hell, the show in which Josh and I discuss what it's really like to be a parent, which I would say can be a little tricky. So, to make ourselves and hopefully you feel better about the trials and tribulations of modern-day parenting, each week we're chatting to a famous parent about how they're coping. Or hopefully how they're they're tha th hearing from you the listener with your tips, advice, and of course, tales of parenting woe. Because let's be honest, there are plenty of times when none of us know what we're doing.

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Must be Legal Draking Age. Hello, I'm Rob Beckett. And I'm Josh Whitakum, and you're listening listening to now that's what I call parenting hell. Sarah Pasco, what have you, are you eating something Josh? Sorry. What are you eating? Um, I'm eating yogurt because I got home. Oh, a yogurt.

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Well, Sarah, this is very close to the bone for Josh because we put a photo up of me hoping everyone would take the Mickey out of me but then everyone just said that Josh looked like a middle-aged woman having a slight breakdown. And he did now he's eating yogurt at his desk. Oh my god my glasses are steaming up now as well the pressure is too much. How are your glasses how many kids have you got Sarah let's move on. Let's move on. Yes, so I have got a baby. He's as a boy and he's nearly six months old. So and it's my first child and I'm 41. I had him at 40. I'm an old, old mom with a young baby. No, I wouldn't, I'd say these days in our industry, Sarah. Late 30s is about the mean average, I'd say, isn't it? It's true, isn't it?

I've been talking on stage about how I really thought you had to choose between a career and a baby. And so it was only when I got to about 35, and I got really sort of bored. That was like, oh, I could do that as well, actually. I could also have a family. Yeah. Well, that's the thing, it's unfair on women who've got more of a time pressure on that and also societal pressure of questions all the time, where if you're a 35-year-old bloke out and about working, no one ever mentions it to you.

But if you're a 35-year-old woman, it's like, so what's the plan? aggressive aggressive by that. Yeah, absolutely. When both of my sisters got married and had children before me and they're both younger than me and at one of my sister's weddings, one of my sister's friends, and she was talking to me because she like date out of ten cats and she wanted to know if Jimmy Carr was nice. And then the next thing she said was, and the thinks with her arm and she just gestured with of her husband she just dressed to her I went, all this not for you. Oh my God. All this not for you. You've got Jimmy Carr and they add ten cats, so no, not this.

Solar Studio in Elstrees, how what you want, is it? Yeah. A lukewarm nando's before you're witty. Dictionary corner, an horrible tweets. Is that your life is it? corner adorable tweets? Is that your life is it? That's obviously sometimes I think from an internalizing thing of someone that did think like you did you have a pick career or family and they pick family and there's a slight resentment to someone who's very successful in their career. I think that's the battleground. Yeah oh that's what we read into it.

We read in that there's some kind of value judgment rather than just oh you focus in on that or is that what makes you really happy? You've made, or you've made choices. It is tricky because we tried to have children for a really long time and then to dive the earth. I found all of those conversations really difficult because I didn't want to make it really like a downer. So I was quite defensive about the question because it's like if I tell you the truth, then I'm telling you some really heavy stuff straight away. Yeah, and that's not what you mean. You just want like a yes or no answer, what's the plan?

Yeah, and you knowthis cousin that you've never met before. What did you apply to this not for you? I think I said something very non-committal and then I've just been angry about it in my head for five years. You know, I keep me living it. What should I have said? I don't know. Women can have it all now. Yeah, yeah. I think that's it. This assumption that, yeah, just that, I'm fine. Yeah, just haven't met the right person. Yeah, it's odd, isn't it? Yeah.

Gary Neville, welcome to Parenting Hell. We're both very excited to have you on this, to be honest. We don't, you know, we don't want to big up too much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much both very excited to have you on this to be honest we don't you know we don't want to big up too much for the big fans starstruck they're out many of them well Josh genuinely is not just me my wife is so jealous she's the world's biggest Gary Neville fan oh wow yeah is this from the from Man United like the from the start no no no well she no I'll be honest with you the to the to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the to to the the the the to to to to to to to to to to to the to to to to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th is is. the the the the the to tho. to not even that into football, but she absolutely loves you and to a lesser extent Jamie Carragher, but mainly you. I was just going to say, what did she think of the scouser? No, she's not that fuss. She's not that fuss. And so, so, she's not that into football, but I'll put it on. But she also, now I've converted her Have you found you've got a new new female fan since the after playing career, Gary?

Because I never had you down as a heart throb while you played. No I don't think many people have ever had me down as a heart for the hardest game. Yeah I think it's fair to say not many. no I don't think I've got a fear, I'm not exactly David Beckham. No. She's not into David Beckham, Gary. It's all about you. Oh, really? Oh, right.

I was thinking then there must be a reason behind her interest in me. It must be access to Bex or something like that. There's no way it can be genuine. She said, has he got a number for Phil Neville? That's what she said. Well, you must have had that though, when you were like playing at May United, did you feel like sometimes you were just people's roots of Beckham when you was out and about with David. I spent most of my life at United definitely if it was ever even, well, there was a media days

or if there was a team day out I certainly wasn't the point of interest when you got Beckham Christian or Rinaldo and all the rest of the lads sort of like you know wandering around so Gary oh I know this because I've followed you on Instagram and I've seen I've seen your family on holiday that was creepy but what's your family set up Gary married with two children both girls 12 and 13. Oh okay so you're going into the the hardcore teenage years are you nervous or is it going all the thear thee their thee toe's the different stages of being a parent? Are you their teaned? they'll say, oh, your life will change, you know,

you'll get no sleep, and then you get them to Tuesday, so it's the terrible two's now, you get into that things, aren't you? And then you get to five, oh, they're going to school and that's difficult, and just something, I have to say this, and maybe it's because of, to be fair, to be fair, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, to, to, to, it, it, it, it, it, oh, oh, to, it's, it's, it's, it's, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, oh, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, their, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, for me, my relationship with my girls, I always feel like, obviously I'm the dad and, you know, they're my daughters, but I almost feel like in some ways it's a friendship whereby nothing that they can do really bugs me or annoys me. I don't get angry with them anymore, actually, because I don't get angry at them all the time because I'm away quite a bit with obviously doing the football and I was because I don't see them all the time because I'm away quite a bit with obviously doing the football And I was with England obviously as a coach I used to go to World Cups for a month I actually appreciate my time with them and I've never found any stage yet so far of their lives

Where I've thought oh, I don't like this and even now I can see the fact that you know? I can see the makeup has started to be introduced and the thak? the thak? the th know, I want them to get really good at social media and in terms of sort of the makeup and the changing of appearances and wanting to wear dresses or wanting to wear things that you know, you know, teenage girls were, I'm thinking well was this always not going to be the case that they were going to grow up and they were going their were going their were going their were going to grow their going to grow their..... We were going their. We were going their. We were going their. I were going their. Was going their. Was going their. Was going to going to going to going to going to grow going their. Was going going to grow going to going to going to gna going to grow up going going going going to grow. I were going going going going going going going going going going going going going going going going going going going going going going going going going going going going going going going going going going going going going going going going going going going going going. to go through this phase. I actually feel, I don't know, I feel quite good about my relationship with the children and I don't feel as though I'm daunted by what's coming to be fair. That is, that is a naive. Does that sound like a naive? No, it doesn't it? I like it. Sounds like you've got it together, which might be quite hard going for the next 45 minutes if you've. But we'll find a way. Did you, um, and I, I see you as a kind of authority figure.

That's how I'd see you as a parent. Would that be fair to say? Honestly, never in a million. My relationship at home with my children is the one relationship I think probably in my life where, uh, with my wife as well, where I'm not the authority figure. As it, I've always felt as though, obviously, even on sky, you speak with a determination. At home, honestly I am nothing like that. Absolutely the opposite. Because to you want to when I go home, I don't take my professional life home with me and I never have. So there's no football paintings around that. There's no football shirts, there's no reference know, my career or anything. I always wanted to get away from my professional life at home.

And so I see it completely differently and I'm not like that at home at all. So for instance, tonight, I've been away for a week. I went to Singapore and then I've been in London and still in London now and I go home tonight and male this daughter said that disrespectful personally because I've been away from a week and I'm like well do you not want to see me and I think if I was being authoritative I said I've not seen you for a week I want you've said no that's what she wants to do go on you're an independent thinking you know young person go for it you go and spend another night away from the youngest daughter staying at home because she's got a little bit, to be fair, she's a little

bit nice and then my older one. My older one's a bit like me. I love her to death, but she's a little bit sort of, she has a sort of blinkers on, quite focused and she knows what she wants and she wants and she wants to go to my mom's so she goes to my mom. So she goes to my mom. So she goes to a week away and she's around the Nan's house. Yeah, she's around the Nans and she probably likes being with my mom more than she likes being with me because my mom looks after her and you know they'll watch netball games together and she'll give her what she wants food-wise and things like that and yeah just like Nans do really. And with your with like the girls I've seen it on the girl I've seen it on your Instagram where you almost the the the the the the the the the the girl the girl the girl the girl the girl the girl the girl the girl. the girl the girl girl girl girl the girl girl girl girl girl girl girl I the girl I the girl I'll the girl I'm the girl girl I'm the girl I'm the girl. I've the girl. I've the girl I've the girl. I'm the girl. I've the girl. I've the girl. I've the girl. I's the girls. I's the girls. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I'll. I'll. I'll. I'll. I'll. I'll. I'll. I'll. I'll. I'll. I'll. I'll. I'll. I'll. I'll. I'll. I'll. I'll. I'll the girl. I'll the girl. I'm the girl. I'm the girl. I'm the the the the the the the the the the the the the t. I'm. I've the the t. I've the the the the the the the the the the the the the the girl. I'veto them where you're filming them and winding them up is that your sort of role with them you know you say you don't take your work home you're not the authority figure no that is what you see to be fair an Instagram is pretty much how I am at all

with them in terms of just trying to joke with them bit like that. And I embarrassed them in almost that. I always thought that we all think we're quite cool, dad's don't we? And we can't, that's the one thing I can't quite work out. Why are they so embarrassed about me? Am I not like, am I not a cool dad? And I think every dad that I spoke to feels the podcast Stacey Sullivan. Good morning. How are you?

Oh my gosh, I am tired. How are you? All right, so have you got a kid there then, Stacey? Yeah, I've got a few of those. No, this is, my son, Rex is here and my daughter Rose is here. I luckily managed to time Rosie's nap to a tea so she's asleep but Rex is running around playing hot wheels so you might hear some door slams and some some feet running around I'm sorry I don't know it's a way at the moment so I've literally it's just us we usually try and do our work oh that was nice Rex thank you and we usually try and do

our work like alternatively but it just hasn't happened in the last three weeks because he's been away. Oh, fair enough. He's been away filming. Stacey, can you, for the uninitiated, please, can you run us through how many children you have and their ages, if possible? Oh, I don't know if I can remember still. I've got four children. Together we've got five children. Joe's eldest son Harry, he's 15. My eldest is 14. Then there's Layton who's 10. Oh my gosh, how bad is it that? I have to sit and think how old? I'll forget their name sometimes. I'm like, Theo, Terry Peanut, which are the dogs names until I finally reach my Google

first. And then we've got Rex who is free and Rose who is about to be one. And you've got a load of dogs as well? Just the two dogs. Yeah. We thought, you know what? Four tids isn't enough? So we get two dogs as well? Amazing. Well, I met one of your dogs, Peanut at the wedding and he's very well behaved. Oh my gosh, peanut is the most the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the thea is tha is the tha is tha. tha. tha. tha. thoes thoes thoes thoes thoes thia. thoes' is thoes is thoes. I is thoes. I is thoes. I's is toea. I's is toea. I's is toea. I's is toea. Wea. Wea. Wea. Wea. Wea. Wea. Wea. Wea. Wea. Wea. Wea. Wea. Wea. Wea. Wea. Wea. Wea. Wea. Wea. I. I. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. Wea. I'm. Wea. It's t.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It my gosh, Peanut is the most friendly dog ever.

He loves people. And when you were at the wedding, when we got our photos back from that little photo booth, Peanut was in nearly every single one. Yeah, I know. Well, no, Peanut was asleep. Peehawked in the taxi. Well, no, Peanut was him in the cab.

So he was always in the cab. He loves the cuddle so much. He had the time of his life that day. There were so many people giving him attention. Oh, it was amazing. I'll just say, because we were so, you know you go to some weddings and they're nice or there's some you go he did that and she don't know you all those sort of things but it was a proper let's hear more about those ones wrong. I know I can't. Just a bit more details on those ones would be ideal. You know the weddings I'm talking about and honestly I've never been to a wedding full of so much love and the speeches. their. because all your boys are a bit older now,

they're like teenagers, they did speeches about you and Joe and what all you meant to each other and Joe's mum did one because Joe's dad's not around and oh my god it was. It was you know what? It was so funny because the boys did it we didn't say to him we have to do a speech or anything like that so we didn't know if they were going to do anything to do anything to do anything to do anything to do anything to do anything to do anything to do anything to do anything to do anything to do if they were going to do anything or not we just said you know on the day if you fancy it go for it and Joe was an emotional mess the whole day weren't he yeah so before I even walk down the aisle why people come up coming up to me like my mom and my mother in law saying don't worry Joe's a bit of like a bit of a mess down there but don't I was like what the heck is going on the heck is the the hell I the heck is the heck is the heck is the heck is the hell I I the heck is the heck is the heck is the heck is the hell I the heck is the heck is the hell I the heck is the heck is the hell I the heck is the heck is the heck is the heck he's the heck I the heck I was the heck is the heck is the heck is the the the hell I was the hell he's the hell he's the heck he's the heck he the heck he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he's the heck he's the heck he's the heck he's the heck he's the the the the t t t toy t toy t toy t t toy the the the the the the the the the the the the the the heck is the heck is going on? So like, as I walked down the aisle, he was already sobbing. And I just, I'm not very cryy.

I don't know why, I'm just not very crying. And I thought, I'll be fine, the whole day, it'll be absolutely fine. And then as soon as the boys were like, oh yeah, we want to say something, we just could not hold it in. think, especially teenage boys, they basically don't ever tell you how they feel or what they think of anything. So it was really emotional to hear like what they had to say. And they were actually really nice. I was so surprised.

You know, you go through that moment where you're like, oh, what they're going to say, what they're going to reveal what they're going to go yeah and dad you're a bit of a dick or like that. You don't like what teenage boys thinks funny but don't realize it's a wedding. And they were so like it must have been so lovely to hear especially with a I think the words blended family now like like you're always worried if they're not going to get on like talks about his dad a lot and what how much it affected him losing his dad. I think the boys because we are a blended family and their lives necessarily and their their parents haven't been everything that you see in the films. Yeah I think they really appreciate where like what Joe's been for and you know he's an amazing dad

and an amazing father figure in in our lives and it was just so like I think it was just really yeah really shocking to see that we're doing all right and they're actually quite happy it was just like few what's going on in the background Stacy we need an update you know what my baby is woken up oh no Rex thought I've left him because I went to check on the background, Stacy? We need an update. You know what? My baby has woken up. Oh no. Rex thought I'd left him because I went to check on the baby. I'm so sorry. I'm so good. That's all right. I think when we interviewed Joe, for some reason he ended up recording it in the toilet. I don't even remember why. Oh my God, because he loves being on the toilet. That's that's. their. their. their. their. their. to. to be. to be. to be. to be. to be. their. to be. their. to be. to be. to be. to be. to be. to be. to be. to be. to be. to be too. to me. to be to be to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to me. to me. I. I. I's. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I's. I's. I's. I's to. I's to. to. to the to the t t t too. the t too. too. toe. to. to to. to to to to to to to to. to to just going to the toilet baby watch the kids like all right then two hours later I'm like you still on that toilet yeah? I ring it my face timing to see if he's actually sitting down

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Okay, well first of all Romish, lovely to meet you. You're a comedian, right? You're a comedian, yeah? Have you got kids? Right. You got kids you got? No, let's let's move on to the main story. What did it means? I thought cameras would be off.

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Hell I am child free today. Oh yeah I thought you can say completely I was going to go this is going to be a long interview. Yeah we put the child up for adoption actually so it's a really quite a lot of hassle we found out. We just changed our minds. We were just tired in the morning so it was not worth it. And we're not tired now now now now actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually to to to the to the to to the to the to the to to the to the to the to to the to the to to to to to to to to to toe. to to the the the toe. to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. te. te. to. today. today. toe. toe. We were just tired in the morning so it was not worth it. And we're not tired now. So it actually has worked out really well. Rachel, how old is your baby? He is 14 months? 15 months? Is that still a baby? Well, he's walking now, so I think officially it's a toddler. Yes. Officially a toddler. But I think it's perfectly normal that I still struggle, I still try and

hold him horizontally and sway him and sing to him a song that goes you're still my baby, you're still my baby. Yeah, that's normal isn't it? Actually, I think that's absolutely far not problematic at all. I think once he's talking maybe you need to knock that on the head but my mom still does that with my youngest brother and he's 34 and Rachel for people the don't know you're married to Marcus Briggsock comedian that we all we all know as well. That's correct and just to clarify our baby is with him not just away. Yeah so that yeah that's your baby together and he's got children from a previous relationship so are you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you to to to that you that you that you that you that you. that you. to that you. to that you. to to to that you to to to that to that that that that that that to to to that to that to that that that that that that that that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's th. that's th. th. that's th. th. that's th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. that's that's the. that's th. Yeah so that yeah that's your baby together and he he's got children from a previous relationship so are you step-mum is that a thing? I am yeah I'm step-mum to two teenagers well I say teenagers one

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It's a new set of rules. Welcome to Paris Town. But I think they get a bit of bad rep teenagers. I don't feel like they're as bad as what everyone's anxiety tells you they're going to be. Because I think that's the big worry isn't it. Everyone's got, oh, you wait. You wait to I think teenagers I think the one thing with teenagers is no matter how kind of socially aware and Politically interested they are and all that kind of thing. I think teenagers are quite inward looking And I think that is that from that comes a lot of the things that people moan about which is being sort of tormented

souls hence every both of my step kids did GCS drama and their drama pieces and all of their friends throughout the school's drama pieces were about, you know, murder, suicide, like huge topics for 15-year-olds. Yeah, it changed a lot since I was a teenage. Do you want to know what my... The main things? My GCS drama piece was set in a... I was a blinded soldier in a World War I hospital. Really? And then we came up with this ourselves and the guy next to me would tell me stories about this woman that walked past the window.

Where's this going, Josh? I'm just telling you what my GSEA drama piece was. At the moment, you've spoken more about this than Rachel spoke about her kid. No, I need more context. Was this, did you write this? Was it devised or? Well, Josh, tell us about your drama, GSEC. Well, I, we wrote it as a group, but it was mainly, but it was mainly, but it was mainly, but it was mainly, but it was mainly, but was blinded and there was a woman that walked past the window that the other soldier would tell me about and she was kind of my hope. You know, I'm a fantasy woman and then at the end the other soldier died and new soldier goes into

the bed and I ask him, whether the woman's walking past the window and he says, there is no window. Oh wow, that's good. Hares on the back, see? Yeah. Oh my God, I thought you were going to say there's no woman. There's no window, that's even deeper. I actually, I think the line was, it's a brick wall. Oh right, that's not as gently done. I think you've got better delivery now.

It's a lot to do more more more more more the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the than I thought. Yeah, now I just feel like why are you putting wounded soldiers in rooms of no windows? It doesn't need a window. Oh he is blind, yeah, we have a breeze. Oh I hear what you're saying Josh the blind people don't need windows. Lock them up. Oh god, oh god let's go back to your to your toddler baby. No back to your, sorry, you talk about your stepkid's drama clock up there and a them. Oh yeah, so I just think, I just think that there's a weird mixture, which is this generation, to be fair, have had to cope with their mental health struggles so I do feel. And they have to have social media. Yeah social media. So I'm bullying

you know bullying online and some of them haven't got pubs yet and that's really going to be getting in their red. Yeah the old the old pubies are you you going back to your your teenager I was desperate for puse I've been shaved my armpi that's a their their yeah yeah yeah yeah I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I was th at at at they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they're they're they're they're they're they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're I've been shaved my armpits but that's... Have you? Yeah, yeah. What are you doing? What am I doing? I just don't have an airy armpits? Adam Petey? Well, no, I just think, why do I need long airy bits out of my arms? Just get all sweating, horrible,

I might as all sweat and Ithey're all blonde, so it looks like I've got a tiny woman in my arm and it's just their air coming out. Sorry, so you're, you're, what, I just, my favorite bit of the interview is the shock in Rachel's voice, how long is it? I think that, well, I was about to dig in deep about pubic hair, but I think you know there's a happy medium, I's, they....... I's, thapapapapapapapapapapape, th. I thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, that that that that that, that, that, that, that's, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I..... So, I. So, I. So, I. So, I. that, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I'm, that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's th. that's thi. that's thi. th th thi. th th th think there's a happy medium isn't there? Well, you want to, I think it should be gender neutral, that you just keep it trim. Yeah, like the thing is, I think you don't want it completely bald because a man's penis looks like a mole rat. So what you want is just a nice splatter in a pubic hair,

but not a big bush that's overwhelming for everyone involved. There we go. And I will th th th, I will th, I will th, I will th, I will th, I will th, I will th, I will th, I will th, I will th, I will th, I will th, I will th, I will th, I will th, I will th, I will th, I will tho, I tho, I thi, I tho, I tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th. th. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thin, thin, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, don't look like a mole rat, but I sort of think you still want to look like a human, don't you? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So what was their drama pieces? This is the most digressing we've ever done in my love? I love it. But I can't be clear enough. There wasn't a window. There wasn't a window. This a war veteran's blown away by that. I'm not going to sleep tonight. So what that's a good question. Are you sleeping today? How's the how's your child's? No, we've said finished a story about the drama GCSE that your stepkids did. Oh no, that was it. Just that they just that I think that was probably the most sort of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of cliche of of cliche of of incredibly profound, incredibly serious depressing topics,

which I think mostly their lives hadn't been touched by. But also that kind of inward looking can extend to just, you know, not being great at washing up and stuff like that, which is the more traditional thing, you know, of like, but no, that I'm very lucky. They're both they're both brilliant and they really, so Marcus, before he asked me to to to marry to marry to marry to marry to marry to marry to marry to marry to marry to marry to marry, th me th me th me thi thi thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, tho, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, their their their their thi, their, their, their, their, thi, thi, thi, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, the the the the, the, to, to, to, to, the, thooooooooooooooooooooooooo, the, th but no that I'm very lucky that they're both they're both brilliant and they really so Marcus and before he asked me to marry him he obviously didn't ask my dad because I'd have hated that and told him off for being patriarchal he asked his kids for permission yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah that's and you know they said they're really funny kids and they said yes they're really funny kids and they said they're really funny kids and they said yes crucially but they said

like I think Alfie said something like oh you you you didn't need to worry we're far too naive to realize how this will impact us in the future and M said oh my dad's all grown up oh my dad's all grown up oh bless that's nice so he didn't ask your dad. So did your dad walk you down the aisle, Rachel? Yeah, he did actually. Which was quite a traditional gesture. Because that's, when you look at that,

is they literally giving you away, it feels like the sort of like the taking the daughter to a market, because that's what Lou is saying is saying......... because I and it's sort of a weird tradition isn't it that you're giving away but it is nice but it is the that's it isn't it's a nice tradition but it is actually if you look at it like the same with asking for permission it is a bit like can I have her cheers mate you're gonna pass her on you drop her off yeah drop her off yeah Sunday about a to knock a 10 her off exactly I'll let's actually ask the kids because you want everyone's to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the to the to the to to the the to the to to to the to the the the their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their tre. tre. I tre. I true. I'm true. I'm true. I'm true. I'm true. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm a their. I'm a their. I've actually asked the kids because you want everyone's got to be on board, haven't they? Especially when it's a new sort of marriage on the cars. You don't want that drama at a wedding. Well that's it, yeah, yeah, exactly, with the step family like it's been really good to me.

I was a youngest child yet and I think that I kind of got my own way a fair bit when I was growing up. And I think being part of a the their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. the. the. the. to to to to to to to to to th. to to th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the th. to to to to to to to to to toe. to. toe. toe. to. toe. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to it's, and I really hate to even say these words, but it's not all about me. Also two comedians marrying as well. There's a lot of who's it about. That's been really hard to take. So still learning, still learning that. Hello Alicia Dixon, welcome to the podcast. We're very excited to have you on Alicia. Hello, how are you? We're good, don't we, Josh? You're alright? Yeah, very excited. We should always start with, what is your situation, Alicia at home? What's the kid's situation? Well, I've got a nine-year-old who's downstairs on the sofa poorly right now?

And a three-year-old who's downstairs on the sofa poorly right now and a three-year-old who is a nursery. Okay that took a bit too long Alicia. I forget what she was and I have a lovely partner called a Zuka. Nine and three that's a quite a difficult gap isn't it a little because my brother was six years older that the nine-year-old or want to be doing like almost nearly teenagerie things and then the three-year-olds a bit younger. How's that playing out? Do they play well?

Well, I thought that leaving the gap was smart, right? Because in my mind, I thought, okay, if by the time I have the second child, and do all of, you know, I'll give her a job. My nine-year-old likes to be pampered, so that kind of backfired. And also, I thought, oh, the nine-year-old will be more motherly and, you know, big sister, look after her younger sister. They argue a lot.

So, do I? Yeah, like, there's a lot of clash in them. But when they're great, you know, you, you, they, they, they, they, they, they have those moments where they go at it and I just have to leave the room and let them figure it out between them. Just walk away and let them. Someone said to me, because I'm always trying to, you know, I used to intervene quite a lot and then when we were away at Christmas, someone said to me, you know, their kids had grown up and they said, you know what, when they argue, when they're argue, they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're to they're to to to to to walk, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just to walk. Just, just to walk. Just, just to walk. Just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just..... just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just..... Just, just, just. Just, just. Just, just. Just, just. Just, just. Just, just. Just, just. Just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, to. Just, to. to. to. to. to. to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to walk. Just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just let them get on with it. Just let them figure it out between them. So that's what I've started doing. I look away. Yeah, what if it turns a physical though, surely the nine-year-old's got the upper hand? Which with my three-year-old it does sometimes. Come in the three-year-olds holding down the nine-year-old. Even turns on me. So yeah, you have to, the younger. the, house period. Really? Okay. Yeah, she is the boss Don't mess with her. Yeah, do you feel like because you've had a big distance? Do you feel like you're a different person like? Yes, I've got more gray hairs and I'm exhausted. Yeah, I look different. I've had to practice the art of patience and it's a daily practice. My goodness going from one to two. two. to two. to to to, yeah. Yeah, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I to to to to to to practice the art of patience and it's a daily practice.

My goodness, going from one to two was a massive shock to the sister. It's so mad, isn't it? Yeah, because when I was pregnant with my first daughter, you know, towards the end I'd lie around watching box sets, you know, chill out, but you can't do that, can you obviously with a second? Because you're running around after your other child. Yeah you're looking after a six year old that's quite an intense kind of experience. Was your was your six year old excited by the idea of becoming an older sister? It was because she came home one day and asked for a sibling and you got to it. Got to it honor in our first born. So cute actually the first time we told her

that we were having a baby. And she didn't believe us. She did not believe us. She kept saying, what? There's a baby in there? Are you sure it's not just food mummy? Totally. Really excited.

Always wanted a sister. She got her sister and then when you know her father and I said to her about a year ago or so, how would you feel about having another sibling? She's like no. She's over it. She's over it. Was it nice so because she was in school your eldest wasn't she then I imagine when you had your baby. Yeah she was in she would have been six so she was in school so did you have a bit more time in the day to sort of like one-on-one with a baby where we found because we only got a two-year-age gap the eldest was still at home when we had the baby not even sort of properly a nursery so it was a bit of a nursery so it was a bit of a nursery to the the the the the the the the the th so the the th so th so the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to me some I I was to to to me so. so. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So, so to to to to to to to. So. So, I I I. So, to. So, to. So, to. So, to. So, the the the the to. I. I was to. I was to. I was to. I was to. So, to. So, to. So, to. So, to. So, to. So, to. So, the the middle. That's full on. But when I had the second baby, I have to be honest, it was a bit of a well-win because I was working right up until my waters broke. Yeah, sure. Whilst I was working. Really? Is that why Simon Cow looks so shocked all the

time? And I honestly, yeah, towards the end, I was quite stressed. And I ended up having a four weeks earlier than she was supposed to be. Oh, wow. And then I had to fly to America to film America's got talent after five weeks of having her. Oh my God. Oh my word. It was a bit mental. The first couple of months, fortunately, got a very supportive mom, amazing partner, and we just

all, you know, we just got on with it and just made it work. So we were in America for the first couple of months of her life. And then yeah, when we came back, I had the Christmas period to kind of relax, Azura was at school, and then it was straight back into BGT in the January, so it was quite full-on-with. And then, the thoom, tho, tho, tho, thii. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thr, thi, thi, thi, thi, so thi, so thi, so thi, so th. So, so th. So, so th. So, so th. So, so th. So, so th. So, so th. So, so th. So, so, so thi, so thi, so thi, so thi, so thi, so thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thr, thr, thr, thrown, thrown, thrown, thrown, thrown, thrown, thee, thrown, thrown, thrown, thi. So, thi, thi, them. And then was that COVID? Well, actually, yeah, we came back from doing the promo trip in the Jan, and then I think we went into lockdown in the March. And actually, that period of time, when we had that amazing summer, that beautiful weather, and we spent a lot of time together, quality time as a family. And that's when you know, that's that's that's that's that's that's the the the the th's feel forced to be with each other, if you can still like

each other at the end of it. And they had a very, dare I say, successful lockdown. Like, yeah, the fact, we just got on with it. And it was great. But I have to say, my eldest daughter, even though she doesn't want us to have any more children. She loves to have, she's very protective, she, you know, she's been super helpful, she's proud of her, she loves showing her off, you know it's that typical thing. Are you panicking now because you said that she didn't want any more siblings, you don't

want to listen back in case in a few years time and accuse you of being mean about her, was that a safety sentence there, at least? But she, you know what, she changes every week, I mean, thap, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, th... th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. that, you, you, you, you're, you know, you're, you're, you're, you, you, you know, you know, you're, you're, th. th. th. Are, th. Are, th. Are, th. Are, th. Are, th. Are, are, th. Are, are, th. Are, are, are, are, are, are, are, are, th. Are, th. Are, th. Are, th. Are, th. Are, th. Are, th. Are, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. that, that, that, are, are, that, are, are, are, are, are, are, are, are, are, are, are, are, are, are, are, are, are, are, are, are, are, are, are,, I mean even the other day she said to us, oh I think we should have 10 siblings and you just go, huh? Do you know what, I prefer the first answer of none? Yeah, last month you said no, absolutely no way. I think the fear of having a little brother, so she's like I'd rather not, you know, yes. You can split, yeah, you can get a couple more girls to back her up in case there's a little boy running about. Yeah, but honestly I think we're okay actually with two. I think I'd take my hat off to anyone with more than two. Well yeah, because you, because you come, you had quite a lot of, half siblings,

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aunt to stay and my mate's today. So I got shipped out to my mate's thie aunt thain aunt thain aunt thaintie aunt thaintie aunt thaintie aunt thaint thaint thaint to my mate's thie aunt to my mate to my mate to my mate to my mate's to my aunt to my aunt to my aunt to my auntie's to my auntie's to my auntie's to my auntie's to to my auntie's to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to my to my to my the the the. the the the. the the the the the the the the the thea. the the thea'a'a'a'a'a'a'a'a'a'a'a' to to, can you find somewhere to stay this weekend around your mates or something because she's coming down? So I got shipped out to my mate's house for two nights. Haute. Hello, Susie Ruffel. Hello, Josh Widdickham and Rob Beckett. Sorry, did I cough all over that, Josh. thiiiiii. thiiiiii. quite bad. Sorry, should we start again? Let's do a proper intro. Susie's our friend, but let's pretend this is like an official interview.

Who are you? Who have we got up next? We've got a lovely comedian up next. I've heard that brilliant. Lovely. No one's lovely comedian, a funny one. Funny. That's what you say right. He's a lovely bloke. He's a lovely girl. No, still a proper intro, Josh. But I know what you're about what this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this is this is th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. No this is th. No this is this is this is this is this is this is this is this is this is this is this is this is this is this is this is this is this is this is this is this is this is this is this is. No one is. No one is. No one is. No one is. No one is. No one. No one. No one. No one. No one. No one. No one. No one. It is. It is. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's the the the the the th. I is. I's th. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I. I th. I's. I th. I's. It's. I's. I's. It's. It's. It's right? He's a lovely bloke. He's a lovely girl. No, still a proper intro Josh, go on. But I know what you're about to say, Josh, when we did that gig and the guy couldn't remember my name? Yeah, in Chester? Yeah. In Chester? This is like, more than a decade ago. Yeah. More than a decade ago, we're in Chester. Oh, fine. A decade and a week. A tha and a week? tha and a tha tha tha tha tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. thi thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thin thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thi, thin' thin' th. th. th. th. thin, th. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thiiiiiiiiiiiiiii. thiiii. thii. thi. thi thi th do that? Why did I do that? That's very you.

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And I could see, if the room at home is that I'm currently having double glazing windows put inside at Jen Brista's house. All right. So you're not actually at home? I'm not living here. Someone's trying to fight the winter fuel bills going up. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, exactly. the thirty fuel bills. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. tooooooooooo tooo too to to to to to to to to. th. th. th. th really fucking cold. Yeah, we've got to get our windows done. So that's happened. Is it a Victorian build? It is, yeah. They're so pretty, aren't they? But fuckers.

It's so pretty, but it's really cold. Really, really. Really? Really? I think everyone sort of that, fuckers to heat. Yeah, absolutely. Windows need doing. Welcome to my life. Yeah, I'm as cold as I am at your house, Josh. It's terrible. So like any good lesbian, I've popped around to Jim Bristow's house,

because the sounds better here. There's not a key either. It just scans you and you get let in. Yeah. Any lesbians within 15 miles are allowed in and out. They just scan your shoes. Oh yeah. Oh yeah, she's done a bit of walking. There you go. Hope she's broke them, Doc Marlins in.

Get in. They're comfy. I did a gig in flip-flops once. Did you? Oh, fuck off, wrong. Yeah, and short. Are you allowed to swear of... As I walked off. Silent, slow clapped off. Yeah, I don't know what that was, sort of ignorance is bliss, arrogance really. How long ago was this? Yeah, where were you? Oh, this was

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So nearly three, so she's chatty, she's fun, her emotions are extreme. Yeah, are they? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, you've got another year with that. Because you remember that bit where the joy is just so joyful. Yeah. And the rage is fucking terrifying. Yeah. Yeah. I think three's worse than two, you know, it's the terrible twos. I agree. Don't say that. I'm a month out. Don't say that.

I do. I think physically two's really bad because they're developing and they can run around and grab everything but I don't really understand the communication of it to go like stop no and all that kind of thing but at three that's when psychologically it starts ramping up and that only ever gets worse because you mentally get weaker and they get stronger yeah until you're dead I think that's something to look forward to soon this has been lovely thanks for having me yeah great podcast congratulations guys bye that's it for this special Best Of Episode! Hello, my name's Joe Wilkinson and I do a podcast with David Earl, it's called Chattabix. Chatterpix is a podcast magazine and chat show, isn't it? We're on three times a week, we have loads of guests, special guests, surprise guests.

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