Parenting Hell with Rob Beckett and Josh Widdicombe - S7 EP40: Angela Scanlon

Episode Date: December 8, 2023

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Hello, I'm Rob Beckett. And I'm Josh Winnockham. Welcome to Parenting Hell, the show in which Josh and I discuss what it's really like to be a parent, which I would say can be a little tricky. So, to make ourselves and hopefully you feel better about the trials and tribulations of modern-day parenting, each week we're chatting to a famous parent about how they're coping. Or hopefully how they're they're tha th hearing from you the listener with your tips, advice, and of course, tales of parenting woe. Because let's be honest, there are plenty of times when none of us know what we're doing.

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I wouldn't say it's bringing loads to the show. Okay, okay. Do you know what the problem is, Rob? We never know what to talk about in the intro section anyway. Yeah true, agree. Shall I bring something up to you? Bring something up that's going on in your life that you want to chat about and hopefully we'll riff it will be gold and then we can bring on the guest. I text to my agent I said oh there's a job I want I've never done that before. Really? Yeah I've never done it before. Okay what job do you want? I said I heard on the grapevine that Greg Wallace. that that that that that that that that that that th that th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th that is that is that is that is that is the gr- the. I tho- the the gro- thr- tho- tho- tho- tho- tho- tho- tho- tho- tho- tho- tho- tho- tho- tho- tho tho tho tho th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I tho tho tho tho tho tho-in tho-s will will will will throoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooee the thethe factory. I'd love to do that job. Is this true? Yeah. And she said yeah they've already announced Paddy McGuinness is doing it. Really? Yeah so for about a minute I dreamt and then it was like oh well that's the end of that then. Why do you want to think inside the factory? I fucking love inside the factory? Fucke in the factory? the series th th th th th inside inside inside inside inside inside inside inside inside inside inside inside inside inside inside inside inside the factory the factory the f. the f. the f. the f. the f. the f. the f. the f. I's the f. the f. I's the f. the f. the f. their the fact the factory? the factory. the fact the fact the fact the factory the factory the factory, the factory, the factory, the factory, the factory, the factory, the factory, the factory, the factory? P. the factory? the factory? the factory? the factory? the factory? the factory? the factory? the factory? the factory? the factory? the factory? the factory? the factory? the factory the factory the factory the factory the fact, the fact, the fact, the fact, the f. th. the f. the f. the f-up. their their their f-up. their th. their their th. their f. their the f-up. the f-up. the f-up. the f-up. the factory Rob. Why is Greg Wallace left? What? Fucking out! He's done seven series!

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There's really wanted and there's finding out six months after Greg Wallace has left, that he's left and thinking, oh that would be quite a fun job, I'll text my agent and then finding out he hasn't. Yeah. And then never thinking about it again until someone says, have we got 10 minute of some content before someone comes on it. I thought I could thou I could that I could that I could that I could that I could that I could that I could that I could that I could that I could that I could that I could that I could that I could that I could that I could that I could that I could that I could that I could that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that th. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the an the an the. the an that's that's that's Family Fortunes, but Gino does that at the moment. It does a great job on it. You'd be so good on family fortunes, Rob. I genuinely think if there was a job creative for someone, it's me on family.

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What's you trying to prove? And it's always in the middle of nowhere where they've gone to like the Ronda Valley. Yeah, half the audience actively thinks you're a prick for having views. Bit like the last leg. Here we go, this is great. Honestly, I can't believe people would want to go on that show. It's so toxic. I tell you why it's toxic because of Twitter. Yes. Before that, it made sense. It's called X. It's called X. Ex. It's called X. Formerly known as Twitter. But now it's basically go on so that everyone on X can criticize you. But for some comics, they are political comics, so they've got a goal on there to prove that they know what they're talking about.

Yeah, exactly. But I think you're just- I just couldn't believe it when they asked me. week? Oh don't, Rob. Was it this week? Where you went on that political news program in an ill-fated way to promote your tour and got in trouble with Michael Portillo? Oh, you spoke about this? We definitely spoke about this before. Yeah, we have. Add it to the list. But where Josh Backey accused Michael Portillo and who was, Diannull? their accused Michael Portillo. to the accused Michael Portillo. You th. You th. You, you, to. You, to. You, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, to, oh, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, they. Oh, to, to, the. Oh, he. Oh, he. Oh, he. Oh, he. Oh, he. Oh, he's. Oh, he's. Oh, he's. Oh, he's. Oh, they. Oh, the. Oh, th. Oh, and Andrew Neal and they all went to Comprehensives and you went, oh! I don't know if I accused Andrew Neal, I accused Michael Portillo. But and it all got a bit awkward didn't it? I just wanted to say why are you wearing fucking red trousers then if you're under a Comprehensive.

Go ahead. Go ahead, theymeat. Go ahead. Yeah, what went on at your fucking Comprehensive in that case? Because look at those trousers. I think that's fair. I think I would have assumed Michael Portillo went to that school. Yeah, and to be fair to Portillo, very polite off camera. To be fair to Portillo, laying down in your office, to be theyla were shuffing around Dartmoor you'd be lying

in your office staring at a dead fly of a band neck talking about your back and forth with Michael Portillo on the tele. I mean his name is Michael Denzil Xavier Portillo. Yeah, come on. How did he go to a comp? Are we sure he wasn't lying? Let me try. Oh let's try and find out I'm on his Wikipedia see what school he went to. You don't say actually I'm gonna try and find out. So the Harrow County School for Boys apparently went to. Oh for fuck sake! Are you fucking kidding me? Is that Harrow County? It's a grammar school. Oh, fuck off! They could definitely have fooled private, but I think he got in that grammar school so they sent him there.

Oh, there we go. I didn't go to a private school. Suddenly, 15 years on, who's the winner? Who's the winner? Is it you Josh? Doesn't feel like it. You're like you're winning, you're technically at work and you're laying down with a stiff neck. Exactly. Meanwhile, it's trained shows now on Channel 5, so who's the winner? Who's the winner? Yeah, who's the winner between Josh Winnock and Michael Portilla? I love Portilla. I think he's a great talker. I'll tookeauauauauauauauauauauauauauauauauauauauauauauauauauauauauauau. the the thau. thuuu, thu, thu thu thu thu this beat. I love Portillo, I think he's a great talker. He was nice off camera. Lovely off camera. Yeah. I went on this week with Andrew Neil as well.

I don't know what's going on. Yeah, I know you went on the week after. Because you phone me and said, what's it like? And I said, watch the YouTube clip and then you just sent me a text saying, oh God. Oh right Josh, we bring it's that I I I I I that I that I that's th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. th. thi. thi. th. thi. th. th. th. thi. thi. Yeah, thi. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. th. th. th. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. th. Yeah. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Let's welcome, the man himself. Michael Portillo. It's not Portillo. It's not Portillo. Do you know what? It is a trick. Look at the name of the episode. That's how it is.

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like I'm a lunatic on a podcast. And you've got on the wrong bus but we're here now. TV presenter, mother, recently a strictly contestant. Angela, how busy is your life at the moment? Do you know what, suddenly become very not busy? I'm sickly, I'm quite a bit of free time and I'm not sure I like it. But no, look, it's an absolute madness the past few months, so. As we change you on Tuesday, you got voted off strictly at the weekend or on Sunday, but we all know really it's thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi. thi thi. thi. thi's thi's thi. How thi, how thi's thi's thi. How thi. How's thi. How's thi. How's thi, how thi, how thi, how thi, how thi, how thi, how thi, how thi, how thi, how thi. How thi. How thi, how thi. How thi. How thi. How thi. How thi. How thi. How thi. How thi. How thi. How thi. How thi. How thi. How thi's theeeea'''a'a'a'a'a'a'a'a'a'a'a'uuui. How thi's Sunday but we all know really it's Saturday that weird thing they still do. Do you clear your diary until Christmas so you like I'm gonna get some time off if I get knocked out or have you got stuff in and you're like I'll put that in no I kind of cleared the decks usually my approach to life is pilot high, filling up.

If there's space in the diary, fill it in. And I've kind of learned over the years that actually that might not be the best approach. You are Josh Widdickham. You two have the exact same person. Yeah, I do worry for your mental health. So do I, babe, I just came from therapy on the wrong bus. I've been going for quite a while FYI I shouldn't have got the wrong bus but anyway. Yeah, I think I've kind of learned that like emotionally is not just a ty physically fitting things in but that actually there may be requirements for a bit of space in your life and brain. So I'm getting to grips with that side of adulthood. I think that's very key just because you can physically fit it in. You need to work out

emotionally if you can process that and be alive and present when you're there. Big time because I think that's what I used to do with literally like barrel from one thing to the next and go, God, where am I going? where am I going? I'm already onto the next thing by the time I'm in something that could have been quite monumental. So I did think, okay, I'd heard friends of mine who had done strictly before like they, with two kids, clear the decks like you won't be able for it anyway. Which is the kind of encouraging chat you get from good pal. So how old are the kids? They are five and 18, well she was 18 months when we started but like 20 months. Oh, wow. The polls made me laugh, but I think when the months you're allowed to pause.

Ah, yeah. If you'd gone seven, I would have judged it. So no, like almost six and two in February. Yeah, so in the pick of us. How did that work with Strictly, because famously with Strictly, it's become a bit like a nuclear arms race, isn't it, in that everyone has to do more and more hours practice. You should all just agree let's do 10 hours, but no instead. A week. A week? Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's what I mean a week, yeah. But instead, everyone's doing more and more and more practice, so you have to do it to keep up. So, how does that work with parenting? their. their. their. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to th. to th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. the. the. the. the the the the the the the the the te to to to to to to to to to to to to keep up. So how does that work with parenting? I mean my husband Blessham has been carrying a lot the last while and we've just leaned heavily. I mean my whole family are in Ireland they came over to help out in a couple of occasions but yeah you just end up

and I'm not great at asking for help as a rule. I mean I think you have to have to have a parent. You certainly have to as a rule. I mean, I think you have to have the parent. You certainly have to, as a mother do bloody strictly with two small kids, you're literally calling in the favor. So I'm like, okay, which the WhatsApp group can I hit up today? Any chat would pick up today, gang? Yeah, we have a childminder, which everyone seems to be weird about talking about publicly but I'm like genuinely the idea of... We've got jobs. Exactly that. Sometimes there's a lot of secrecy around that and this kind of illusion that you're doing it all and you just happen to magically meet in the middle and the timing's never

go tits up. So you're practicing the fox truck while holding an five-year-old while doing the Sammon effect. So it was quite a gear change and weirdly that was part of the motivation for doing it for me was you know when you're in the pick of motherhood and that becomes a kind of defining role, obviously, and you, yeah, slightly lose toucest maybe with party yourself and so I was yeah quite keen to unleash the beast of then. Well I suppose you do because that is the point where you start to get your life back a little bit when they're 80 months it's still young but it's not the proper middle of a

night feeding you know exactly you can sort of focus on yourself a bit because it is unfair especially more for moms and dads where you sort of become a mom and it's all consuming because it most time has a physical toll on your body that you're recovering from and psychologically that can take longer. So like there is a moment where you want to reclaim a bit of right, yeah I'm a mom but I am also just a person called Angela that wants to have a life. Totally and I mean part of me would have loved to forget that at certain points in training. And then the old pelvic floor let me down on the trials today was like, lads, honestly, I can't do their handstand in the middle of the dance. And I kind of joked about it and then the reality of it was, it was quite real. It was quite real. I'm pleased to say it's now, I'm pleased to say, I'm pleased to say, I'm pleased to say, I's to say, I's to say, I's to say, I's to say, I's to say, I's to say, I's to say, I's to say, I'm pleased to say, I'm to say, I'm to say, I'm to say, I'm to say, I'm pleased to say, I'm to say, I's to say, I'm to say, I'm to say, I'm to say, I, I'm to say, I, I, I, I'm to say, I, I, I, I'm pleased to say, I, I, I'm pleased to say, I'm pleased to say, I'm pleased to say, I, I'm pleased to say, I, I, I'm pleased to say, I's to say, I's to say, I'm pleased that, I'm pleased that, I'm pleased that, I'm pleased that, I'm pleased that, that, I'm that, that's that's that's that's that's that, I'm that, I'm pleased that, I'm pleased that's that's a little tip for mothers out there if they want the pelvic floor back in action just get them strictly. Just do eight weeks of dancing. Of plenching.

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this mad really affected me. Yeah. In ways I just hadn't really anticipated, which I think is good in life. It's nice to be knocked around the head with a bit of surprise and like levels of emotion that aren't really felt in day-to-day situations and certainly not professional. I mean, you know you have highs and lows, but like I love an old deep cry you know I like to listen to music watch a film that is juice is emotion like I am not interested in comedy no offense I want to feel someone's struggle I want to that's the kind of

shit I'm into you know so actually I've really been scratching that it you want someone getting on the wrong boss that's what you want. You want the sadness of someone on the wrong bus. And the triumph at the end and the growth. What do you think made you sort of upset then? Do you think it was more sad that you couldn't do it and the process of it? Or did you think it just felt just a bit premature and just a bit unlucky and you know, there's a kind of like a fall of the cards and also Blackpool.

We had done like an amazing routine in Blackpool that was kind of like our best of the series, so it was quite a come down. And then I think the reality is you're in this, like and then people talk about the bubble I'm like I don't really know what they're talking about bubble but genuinely like me getting on the wrong bus is because I have not gotten on a bus for a number of months there's somebody waiting outside the house to bring it to training like every single day is scheduled yeah yeah I think the reality of that ending we had a few little tricks up our sleeves that I was really looking forward to. Because if I was doing it, I'd want to be voted out almost immediately and still be paid. I don't think there's any worries there, Rob. I think I can make that happen, Rob.

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Ha ha ha ha ha ha. So you want her to pretend that a dancer will fall in love with you, Josh? I'd like her to go look, there's a chance one of these dancers is going to fall for you here Josh. Did your husband at any point say I'm worried about the curse? I mean look it's easy to mean, he often said, I'd be back-sitting enough anyway. So I think, no, look, honestly, I don't know about the whole curse, like, I get it, in that you spend an exponential amount of time. I mean it's only like the beginning of a relationship or like a teenage

friendship where you're kind of like in each other's pockets on a gap year. It's that sort of intensity. So in adulthood it happens so rarely that it's quite like, oh, what is this? And also I think you're with the person who's kind of caring for you through very exposing, vulnerable moments. So I kind of had thought about the physicality being the main issue, but actually, you know, emotionally it's quite. It's more of an emotional. I really think so. It's not just people just getting jiggy. They're like crying and cuddling and shit. It's not just because you're pressed up against them in small amounts of clothes.. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It. It. It. It, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th. th. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi. thi. thiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii. thi. thi. thi, thi, thi, they're like crying and cuddling and shit. It's not just because you're pressed up against them in small amounts of clothes. Yeah, but also you're really not for very long.

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It's very hard to have an affair in a 25 minute. Step C on Saturday. Wing it on the night. Yeah. I'll probably just do it on the night. It'll be fine. That worry about it. That'd hate me the dancers. You'd be grand. I'm used to improv. Yeah. The disparate. And a five-year-old. So my daughter's six, but she loved it last year when she was five. Yeah. So did your five-year-old daughter, did she watch? I mean obsessed. And we hadn't really watched it before she was heavily heavily heavily invested and brutal as a critic like brutal you'd come home after getting a sucker punch from Craig on a Saturday night then you've got this little shit telling you what you did or didn't do wrong it was very humbling but yeah it was actually really lovely because you know most of stuff she doesn't really see or it's not really of interest to her and then you're in these mad dresses and it was

really sweet but she would often say we did the walls which was like a few weeks back I said well what did you think of our walls and technically guys I don't know whether you're into ballroom but it was actually quite a big deal. You're Vienese walt, you got 28 for that. No, my Viennese waltz wasn't great. Oh, your normal waltz, you got 33. Thank you, babe, look at you with the scoreboards. You've got nine from Anton and nine from Motse as well. That's really superb.

What happened with the Viennese version? Viennese is a lot of twirling. We maybe took it easy on that week after a seven's across the board Strudel at the end it wasn't a good moment for us and also I've got a bit with the dress let's be honest not a great dress for it as well no but maybe for little girl and it had followed on from your Charleston your Charleston's got 35 in week three are you a Wikipedia Josh have you remembered all this no no just remember it all really well he loves the stats I th I th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th tho-I tho-I tho-I tho-I tho-I tho-I tho-I tho-I tho-I tho-I tho-I th-I th-I th-I th-I th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th thu-I thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii th just a super nerds. Yeah, yeah. He just loves the stats. I thought Craig giving you eight for your Argentine tango was unfair. I agree. I agree, I agree, now that I can say it. The other three gave you 10 for Craig to give you eight. I get his roll, but come on mate. You got all tens for that tens in Blackpool, yeah. So yeah, it's a bit of a shock to go out, I suppose, and because you've been hammering the tens and all of a sudden. Yeah, I mean, saying hammering

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on the Sunday. Did you make your daughter watch it as live to see whether you'd gone through? No, she came in on Sunday morning. I was like, mom, who went home? I did. And she like, her little head into my last last. That is painful. Yeah, and she now has just come up. Like, this morning, I was in bed and she came in and she now has just come up. Like this morning I was in bed and she came in and she robbed my face and she went, I'm sorry, she went home too. Oh my God. Also, you know you're in a vulnerable state when you're getting held away a five-year-old. She's your emotional support system, the five-year-old. It's your emotional support system the five-year-old.

It's okay, Bob. Did you take out there? She did go to a couple of the rehearsals. Yeah. Yeah. Oh yeah. And she loved it. And it's funny, we did a Paso on Halloween week to Black Swan, like open the show. It was very dramatic. And they came with my husband Roy and the two girls. And Marnie was like like, the girl, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, the the the the the the their, their, their, their, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, th, the, th, th, th. th. th. th. thi, th-I. th-I. Did, th-I. Did, th-I. Did, thi. Did, thi, thi, thi, thi, the two girls and Marnie was like, Mama, Mar-ma, Mar-ma, go out in the audience. And I was like, hey girl, and Carlos said, into character now, please, because I was like this wild, dark, black swan. So it was very different roles in any given day. But you've got loads of time now to spend your kids leading up to Christmas now that. Are you excited about that that that that that that that that you're not on strictly. Are you excited about that or is this stressful? No, you know what? It is when it is and it will be kind of lovely, I suppose, to do a bit of

shopping and put up the Christmas tree. I'm going to lean heavily in. Christmas has started. Now I'm going all in. And will you watch on Saturday? Do you still have to go in? Oh no, I absolutely won't watch. I couldn't watch Sunday's show. I'm quite like when I'm done, I'm done. I need to disconnect. What if your daughter wants to watch? Well, she can do it on her own, Josh. You watch that. I'll be in bed crying, okay? If you want to sit there watching them dance, sure, but I'll be in bed crying. go for it but you're on your own. Can I ask one more strictly question? Yeah and then can we move on this? It's like sorry sorry. Jesus no. Are the VTs as

painful to record as they look on the show? Absolutely. No, it's always like there's literally someone there all the time. And like here's the thing and it's actually amazing because in one way that was the biggest issue for me. I do not like being seen in the process right. I like to be like delving in there all the pain and all the messiness like away and then I come out like this. You know and hopefully make it look easy and there was absolutely none that so you're literally being watched not just by a teacher and like multiple BT people in and out but then you're being watched by the entire nation while struggling to get a hip rotation or whatever so it's humbling let's just say. Well well down I don't know how you do it. It's such a a lot of commitment that. Yeah. It was good. It was good. the the to the to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. te. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. th. th., Dan. I don't know how you do it. It's such a lot of commitment to that. Yeah.

Yeah, it was good, honestly. And genuinely incredible experience. And I'd heard people, I was like, this is always so chichaed people talking about these things. But it was, yeah, it was amazing. I have no regrets. No regrets. We've weg weg we have we have we have we have we have we have we have we have the first minute as to what you're like day to day. How does that translate into parenting? I would say I'm a relaxed parent.

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She tells it straight, exactly. But it straight exactly. But then my second, it's funny because she's an absolute tug. Just really unexpected. She's very angelic to look and has the most incredible eyes, like really soft kind of ethereal looking little one, but she is wild as the night sky. And I don't know whether that's a second child thing. I mean I'm a second second child, so I kind of relate on some level, but oh, she's an absolute. Well, what's your partner called Roy, did you say? Roy, yeah. And what's Roy like? Is he sort of like, because Josh and Rose is a bit more organized one, thiiii.

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That's because I'm doing so much work. Okay. So I thought you were the sort of the neurotic one and Rose was to calm safe pair of hands Josh. I don't think it's time to put labels on people Rob. Life isn't about like labels. Not anymore it's not. Would you say Roy is a bit more chilled Angela? Is he more chill? He's certainly more organized I would say. Like we say I'm the creative director and he's logistics and security. Right. So like I'll have the idea and he'll make sure it gets to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the the the the the the the the the to put the the the the the the labels the labels the the the the the the the the the the labels the labels the labels the labels the labels labels labels labels labels labels labels labels labels labels labels labels labels the labels the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th th th tha tha tha tha tha tha tha tha tha tha tha tha tha tha tha tha tea thea thea thea the the creative director and he's logistics and security. Right. So like I'll have the idea and he'll make sure it gets done. So come to me if you want like a bit of inspiration, but then you need to book it. You know what I mean? Yeah.

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She thought, fuck, I haven't mentioned that nutcracker that I bought on eBay in the auction. today. She's a machine for it. Well she nailed it. You know my first holiday with Roy, his name is Horgan and they're very hoorganized. I mean this is who I'm married to right. I like it. And so when we went on holidays he had a laminated spread cheese with. So sorry has he got his own laminator? Was he taken it to snappy? No he had his own own laminator back in the day and so yeah it gets better because he had a wallet sized version just for ease so the main one was in the suitcase and then the holiday one would come out so we'd arrive in a hotel and he'd be able to see this hotel okay we paid 50% so

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Yeah, we kind of share quite equally. He doesn't really get involved in the parents' WhatsApp group. So I get a lot of it, but I think I am a good delegator, Rob. So I will see something has to be done, and then I will make sure the flyer, I went to the school conference the other morning, school conference groups have told me now that I'm in year one, it's actually like a debrief, year one to see what she's been up to. There's no play like last time when she was in reception and just a baby.

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And so I think those things, yeah, probably, definitely fall to me. Right. Remembering birthdays and bits and pieces. But yeah, he's, I would say he's better at, like, let's make sure we do the birthday or he's better at activities. Like getting up and goingto go ape I love a cuddle on the soap you know if she ever says I'm bored I say you know what bad Ed Sheeran was really bored before he wrote that album not too much pressure then no I'm like boredom all good stuff is born out of bored if there's no space for boredom, nothing good comes.

So I say go occupy yourself with your boredom or sit with it because I am not your full-time entertainer. I don't subscribe to that type of parenting. That's a really good way of doing it. Well because I think they then don't know how to play, how to occupy themselves. So what about iPads? They have th. That's th. That's th. That's th. That's th. That's th. That's th. That's th. That's th. That's th. That's th. That's th. That's th. That's th. That's th. That's th. That's th. That's th. That's th. That's th. That's th. That's thoom. That's thoome. That's thoome. That's thoome's thoomome. That's thoom. That's thoom. That's the. That's the. That's is is is th. That's is th. That's is th. That's is th. That's is th. That's is th. That's is th. That's is th. That's is th. That's is th. th. th. the th. their. th. their their th. their thoooooooooooooooomea. thea. thea. thooooooooooomea. the. the. the. don't know how to play, how to occupy themselves. So what about iPads? Do they have iPads and devices? So she has a show before bed every night, which I mean, who knows if that's good or bad, but like it's a kind of wind down, it's time for us to have a bit of dinner, whatever. We try, we're more successful with her than we have been on number two, but when we went out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the the th. th. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. they. they. the. the. the. the. the. th out with her we never did the iPad ping. Really? But I mean as a result I was up holding her jigging around then he'd eat his food we'd swap so like it is quite full on but we've tried to kind of slightly minimize that but it's hard isn't it? So what does your daughter do when you go

right well be bored or think something to do? She loves a bit of crafting. She makes cards And I mean the development in them hasn't the the th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th thus thus thu thu thu thu thus the the thu. I was to their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their th. I th. I was th. I was thu. I was to to to to to to to to to to to to to to tog. toe toe toe. toe. to to to to to to to their their their their think something to do. She loves a bit of crafting. She makes cards and I mean the development in them hasn't been prodigious let's say. She's not going up the levels like Ed Shear with a guitar. No no but she will go off and make a card that's the default if I'm like oh babe I really need five minutes I say why don't you make Josh a card and in she goes. Has she got a guitar in case she did want to write an album? No, which is she did have a ukulele. So you say, hang on, so you go and cheer and was bored once, then he wrote an album, so go off but with no guitar. Yeah, that's unfair but she can do push-ups or whatever. But I just think it's their their th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. to thi. thi. the. the. th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. th. th. th. th. th. the. the. the. to to to to to the. to the. to to the. to the. to the. the. the. the. the. the. But I just think it's important that she knows, because I think sometimes a lot of the pressure for us comes from filling the time.

And when I grew up, like I don't remember my mom ever taken me to an entertainment like situation. My mom did not take me to go ape. No. She'd take me Sangebree's, and I'll just follow her around. And you were delighted to sit in that bloody little bit in the trolley of the front of it and whack a few apples in your top. But like, I do think, yeah, we kind of robbed them of being able to figure out what they're into

if we schedule every day with play dates and noise and nonsense. So I'm a kind of slightly less to more. Roy likes to schedule activities, but I think that's more his issue than their. That's his vibe. You're both Irish, you and Roy both Irish, aren't you? Is that right? So you're growing up in North London, your kids. You're gonna have two North London sort of English kids.

How does that feel and how often do you go back to Ireland? Ireland, you're going back for Christmas or... What's their accent? Oh it's a mixed all bag. Yeah, it's very funny because they'll have like girls, Rube's will say the gales. She's now gotten a little bit posh since she's been in school, but then most people hear her accent as being very Irish because she has our pronunciations. She identifies as Irish. She's like I am an Irish girl. Just because my accent is a little bit different doesn't mean I'm not Irish. Where was she born? Was she born here or Ireland? She was born here. Yeah, she was born here. Was that planned? It was planned? Yeah, however. I went full hippie-dippy second time round, but it was rushed. I mean, first time round, I was in like proper active labor, but wild denial.

I hadn't packed my hospital bag and I rang the midwife going. It feels like things have kicked up a notch and she did whatever timing she did on the thing and then said, getting a taxi baby, it was Saturday night. And I arrived into the hospital 45 minutes later and she did a sweep which you guys are missing out on joyous. What is a sweep it's sort of they just a nurse's fingers sort of just go in. Oh I wish it was just the fingers Rob. It's the full shebang for land. Yeah I mean at least that's how it felt I don't know I didn't actually see Straight away surely they go in did they build not much not much build up

Not straight flat palm like you're feeding the hole straight in Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. Wight open bang that's what it felt like but she's like okay. sohn. She's like okay. So what happens now and she's like well you're gonna have a baby. I was like? no. no. no. no. the the no. the they. they they they they they they they they they're not not not they're not they're not they're they're not they're not they're they're they're they're they're not they're not they're not they're not they're not they're not they're not much. they're not much. they're not much. they're not much. they're not much much much they're not much they're not not they're not they're not they're not they're not they's not they's not they's not they's not they's not they's not they're they're they they they're they they they they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're to to to to to to to to to to the the to to the the to to the the the the the the the the the the the they. like, oh time. I was like, okay, so what happens now? And she's like, well, you're gonna have a baby? I was like, no, no, no, we've got brunch tomorrow. What are you talking about? So it came as a bit of a shop to the system and I didn't love the entire birth. What? Because also as well like I've known you for a little while but and we've got an intense chat here. I can't imagine you being silent just sitting down. Never mind giving birth. So what calls them? I mean honestly I think I was in in shock. I felt really frightened and I kind of just like, I don't know. It was quite child-like for me in a way in that I just kind of, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just kind th, I just kind of, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, I'm, like, I'm th, I'm th, I'm th, I'm th, I'm th, I'm th. I've to to th. I've th. I've th. I've th. I've th. I've th. I've th. I've th. I've frightened and I kind of just like, I don't know, it was quite childlike for me in a way in that I just kind of slightly shut down and felt just very out of control.

And so the following, when I got pregnant with Marnie, I was like, okay, I really want to do things differently. I want my birth experience to kind of heal the previous school opening away. Because I was like, it just feels like that was not the empowered experience I hear people talk about. And obviously you hear horror stories as well, and that happens, but I really wanted to change it. So I did a home birth and it was insane.

I mean, like still sore at certain points, but it was amazing. Like lit the fire had incense, had meditation music. I mean I may as well have been out of the garden. Yeah. I know. Roy had to empty the pyrstals. Any crystals? It doesn't sound very raw. But he leaned in a giant rose quartz in the bottom of the birthing pool. A massive crystal. He's laminated a sofa so there's no dirt on there. It was mad, but it was so much I was able to like trust myself. And look, I had read loads of books and it was like, our bodies know how to birth. If everyone can just get out of the way. And I do feel really passionately that this idea of birthing

laying down only came in when some male friggin consultant decided that you got a better angle from that. Right. So so actually you're supposed to be up and abet. You're not supposed to be on your back because gravity doesn't really allow for a baby to drop if you're lying. So anyway I was moving around. I was I was moving around. I was on the toilet, I was dancing, I was mooing, and I mean I like really went for it. If I was trying to make up for me in silent first time round, I was like a wild animal and it was joyous. Did the neighbors here? I don't know if they heard. We're in a detached tax, so I don't think they did, but my daughter heard at whatever, 3 a thrown. And she, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, I, I, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, and I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, and I was like, I was like, and I was like, and I was like, and I was like, and I was like, and I was, and I was, and I was, and I was, and I was, and I was, and I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was like, no, I'm not ready, put it back in, put it back in. She's like, that's not how it works, not Ruby, but the midwife said,

babe, I betchaed herself. Then Ruby came in and I thought, oh God, okay, I felt myself getting a bit hysterical. Yeah. And then she came in. And weirdly I had this like, like, th. want to freak her out. This could be quite a traumatizing thing and she just sat and like rubbed my face and I did one final push and out she popped. Oh wow. I know I'm born that exactly the same time as Ruby's born 329 which is bonkers. Yeah really weird. Did you have any pain relief for that then or what was going to... No? First time round I had gas and air afterwards when I was like I was so quiet I realized that in that moment

where like the contraction comes and the noise should come naturally I was like instead of oh yeah so I was on the gas and air at the moment when I should have been probably expressing something and so the second time round I just I didn't have any of it. Oh wow I had maybe a chug like I definitely like like like I was like I was like I was like I was like I was like I was like I was th th th th I was so so so th I was so th I was so th I was so th I was so th I was so th I was so so so th I was so I was so I was so I was so I was so I was so I was so I was so I was so I was so I was so I was like so I was like so I was so I was so I was so I was so I was so I was so I was like so I was so I was so I was so I was so I was so I was so I was so I was so I was so I was so I was so I was so I was so I was so I was so I was so I was the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th the the the tho the tho the the the th expressing something. And so the second time around I just, I didn't have any of it. I had maybe a chug, like I definitely had gas in air there, but I got a chug. I had a chug at the beginning and then I was like, you know what, I feel like I'm gonna vomit and I might just wanna, as I say, I love a bit of pain. I kind of thought I want to feel all at all their. I their. I their. I to feel. I to feel. I to feel. I their. I to feel. I to feel. I to feel. I to feel. to feel, to feel, to feel, to feel, their, to feel, to feel, I to feel, I to feel, I to feel a thi. I to feel, I to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to thi, I thi, I thi, I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I thi, the the thi, to the thi, thi, thi. thi. to the. theat, tog, tog, to to to tog, to to to to to to to to to to to to the. So I really wanted to know what it felt like, the full spectrum. Are you gonna go again?

I'm done. You done. Done and dusted, yeah. Although I do sometimes think, oh my god, but like Roy's having none of it. No. It's laminated now, Robbie Connor, the third child to his laminated list. It's done. It's done. It's three a lot. It's a th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thiololot. tho. tho. thoe. the the the thiolololololome. the the the the the the the the their, the their, their. their. thathing. thathing. thathing. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the. the. the. the. the. the. the. thoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooome. toe. the. It's done. No I think three like I'm one of four girls. Jesus. It's a lot but it's more when you live in London. Yeah, they're the day in the age. Well I've got four brothers and I think it's actually put me off having more. It's just a lot to manage. Yeah, it's a lot to manage. Yeah, it's a lot to manage. Yeah, but then you know when you're you're dying, you want to go around you, don't you? That's where my head goes to. I don't know, I think I just want to be left on my own if I'm dying.

Yeah, decrepit. Last thing I wanted someone coming around for a cup of tea. I love that. You're like, oh, listen. I've given you enough. Fuck off. to Ireland to see the sisters. Christmas we go back and split our time between Roy's place and my home place. And look, I don't know. It just feels so grown up and I'm obviously in denial to do Christmas on your own. How old are you, Angela? I'm 40 years of age Rob, I'm a shame to say.

No, I don't think you're old enough to do it on your own. I think I am old enough, but like in reality, I like somebody to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to be to be old tho to do to to to to to to to to to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their throe. their their throoooooooooooooooooooooooooooe. I to to to to I don't know. I like, you know, somebody cooking for me. You know? Would Roy want to stay in and do the cooking or something and to have people to you? No, no. His family go all out. It's lovely. Also, when you're from Ilea, it's fun to go back.

Then you can see everyone in one here. Your house is nice and clean and tidy and ti and ti and to to to to toe and toe and toe and toe and toe and toe and toe and toe and toe and their their thii. Iauuileteen. Iaughe. Iaughe. I's thoenenomeomeaughe. I's thi. I'm thoomkiolk. I's thoomoomorrow. I's thoomkiolk. I's thoomky. I's thoomky. I's thoomk. I's thoes. I's thoes. I's thoes. I's thoes. I's thoen. I. I. Ia. Ia. Ia. Ia. Ia. Ia. I's thi. I's thi. I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm thoe. I'm thoea. I'm thooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooe. I'm the. I'm one here. You do that for a few days and you come back and your house is nice and clean and tidy. I think if I will live to broad, you'd just want to come home for Christmas and then also you can really Irish your kids up for a few weeks. You'd love to live abroad, wrob. I'd love to live abroad. If somewhere, come back, knock out, some wipe out, whatever it is used to do, do three series of that and push off again. Where would you live, Rob? Where would I live? Why, that's the thing. At the moment, there's no, where I really want to, when I was younger, I wanted to live in New York, and stuff like that, to do gigs in New York. That's not the... No, but I don't know where I want to go, but I don't think I'm definitely not going to be living in England when I'm like 50, I'll be

somewhere else. Do you think? You need a visa now though. Well that's the problem isn't it but... You shouldn't have voted Brexit, Rob. I didn't vote Brexit. I love Brexit. I love being a new. I feel. I feel the the their. I'm their. I'm their. I'm their their their their their their their their their their their their their th. I'm like their th. I'll th. I'll th. I'll th. I'll like th. I'll th. I'll th. I'll like 50. I'll like 50. I'll like 50. I'll their 50. I'll their 50. I'll their 50. I'll their 50. I'll the the the the the the the the the the the their 50. I'll their 50. I'll th. I'll th. I'll th. I'll th. I'll th. I'll th. I'll th. I'll th. I'll th. I'll th. I'll th. I'll th. I'll th. I'll th. I'll th. 50. 50. 50. I'll th. 50. 50. 50. 50. 50. I'll th. 50. 50. I'll th. 50. I'll th. bounce around Europe or yours are all right, they've got Irish passports. They're grand, they've got an Irish passport, yeah. And rail travel thing I did right, it was like 250 quid. Oh, yeah. Oh, interrailing. Oh, did you do that? Oh, did you do that? I really wanted to all that so. Yeah gorgeous. Did you meet Roy in Ireland? Yeah we met in Ireland.

Met in Ireland. True, so like one of my best pals that I went to uni with and one of his best friends introduced us. Oh lovely. Are you near each other in Ireland the family? No he's from cork and I'm from Mead which is just outside Dublin so he's like way to say than I'm more of it. I mean I say I'm a city girl, I'm absolutely not. I'm a country bumping. So you could tell us that, but if you're anyone from Dublin, they're like no way. They're like, come on babe. No, absolutely not.

But yeah, so like, as you it's like babe who's the other one? He loves the other one. Yeah yeah but also I have loads of cousins over here who's both parents are Irish and I was like our cockney cousins like they don't get it and now I think of course my kids are as as Irish as I am and obviously they've got very different experience but it's really like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like the like their. like as. as. as. as. as. I as. I as. I as as as as as as as as as as as as as as as as as as as as as as as as as as as as as as as as as as as as as as as as as as as as as as as as as as as as as as as as as as as as as as as as as as as as as as as as as as as as as as as as as as as as as as as as as as as as as you as you as you as you as you as you as you as you as you as you as you as you as you as you as you as you as you as you as you as you as you as their as you as think of course my kids are as Irish as I am. And obviously they've got a very different experience, but it's really like it's quite a weird thing because I genuinely thought, oh yeah, before she goes to school, I'd say we'll be home. And then I remember my mom saying, you know, you don't just, like home isn't really just a location that you choose to be in a kind of like happens

and suddenly you're in a network and in a community and then that feels like home more than actual home does. Well yeah because you're gonna have to, I know they're Irish or kid but they're gonna sound, they're gonna sound like Roshie. They're gonna sound like Roshie. And so there is like softness to the vowels they say. And also I also they they they're they're they're they're they're to they're to to they're to they're to to to they're to to to their to their to to their th. th. thu. thu. tho. tho. to be to be thi. thi. tho. tho. tho. tho. thu. thu. thu. thu. th. their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their th. th. th. th. thu. thu. thu. thu. thoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo. th. th. th. thu. th. their to sound like Roshie. They're going to sound like Rochey. And so there is like softness to the vowels they say. And also I think because maybe if you're second-generation Irish you feel like you really want to hold on to that kind of or identify with this. Well it's a culture of it is it? You know well I was brought up in a very working-class family. However I was brought up in a working-class family class class class class class class class class class class class class class class class class class. to. to. to to to th. to to th. th. th. to th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. I was, I was, I was the the thi. I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, the the the th. I was, the th. the the the the thi. the thi. thi. the thi. the thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thii. I'm thiiiiiiiiole, not really living a working class lifestyle. However, that's how you sort of identify as. You're moving to Spain and next year, Rob. Wait till you get to Benadorn, Rob?

That's the ultimate working class lifestyle. You'll be there. Full circle moment. Exactly. Oh, it's quality. Having a pint with your breakfast. Because you've not lost your accent at all. Because especially you married someone Irish, you sort of can always lose it or double down where you find yourself being more Irish around them. I mean, I think so. And it's weird because my dad's one of 14. And most of his siblings moved to the UK. And so they now, I know. I know. That's too many. It's a couple too many. And to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to th. And th. And th. And most. And most. th. th. th. th. th. th. to to to to thi. the their to to to to to to to to to to their their their their their their their their their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. th. th. th. th. th. th. to. th. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to.. to..........................'s too many. I'm going to say it. There's a couple too many.

And his mother, who died at 93, I remember her saying to my sister who was pregnant at the time, was like, free of enough. But 14, that is hardcore. Yeah. So let's just say emotional containment was not high on her life. Right. They feel your feelings. Get out that fucking door! So I think, yeah, it was just a different life.

She was pregnant, I suppose, for 25 years maybe. Yeah, now that's actually, now that I say it out later, I'm like, is that correct? Yeah, it is. Well, any of them, twins or triplets, was it 14 separate? There were 15 twins one who died. So th th th th th th th th tha tha tha 15, there was one set of twins, one who died, so there were 14 single pregnancy. Faking Nora. I know, I know.

And like her husband away working here. So just another life and I do think sometimes, I'm not that far removed. That's only one generation away. Imagine doing breakfast. Just everything. Imagine the porridge. That porridge, mate. The porridge getting gobbled in that house. Oh my God, yeah, yeah, you'd have to do stews, wouldn't you? Stuff that's one pot. One huge fucking pot, like you're in a prison. Yeah, yeah, big time.

But also it's interesting because I suppose with a family that large, by the time the babies came along the older ones were gone. Oh yeah. It was like a few different family they left early. Self-policing in a way as well I suppose some of the older ones will look after some of the younger ones. Yeah, but imagine the fucking clothes trys, trying to work out whose is hose, oh my god. And no tumble dryer, not a tumble dryer inside. oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. to to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. t. the. te. te. te. tum. tum. tum. tum. te. te. the the the the the the the the the the God. And no tumble dryer, not a tumble dryer inside. Yeah, just stick it out in the Sandin Island in February, get it all dried.

Breezy, yeah. Fresh. We normally, obviously, well, everyone we speak to it is famous in some way. But if you've got 14 kids, we will make an exception. Just to interview you about the logistics of your life. Do write in. Yeah, if anyone's listening, it's got 14 kids. Oh, I was like, she's dead, Josh. I just said that. No, no, no, no, you're in general.

Yeah, yeah, generally. Although, I otherwise I would definitely hook you up. Does your dad say like that was kind of set them apart and that was odd or did it feel totally normal to him? I guess you're whatever situation you're born into is you're a normal, right? And look, there probably would have been, like I'd say they'd have been a sizable an old family in the locality, but they weren't the only ones? Like I'd say there was ten plus in a good few family. Yeah. So at school it weren't You're basically the entire school. Yeah, and like there's got to be, I imagine you feel quite held and galvanized heading up the road with 14 of you. Like no one's going to mess with you. Angela, growing up though, when you're Angela's 16, 17, going to pubs and discos and meeting young men. Are you worried? Am I worried about what?

That there may be a cousin lurking. There's a big odds that you've cocked off with your cousin at 18 somewhere in the Dublin area. Oh my God, stop. No, because actually most of my aunties and uncles came to the UK. So a lot of the cousins are over here. That helps. Now, I'll let you crack on. We we we we we we we we th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the, we'll the. the. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. the. the. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. Are, th. Are, th. Are, th. Are, th. Are, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. t. t. t. t. t.. over here. That helps. Now I'll let you crack on. We've got one last question we always ask our guests. What's the one thing that your partner Roy does that is... Can I just say I'd stop you there right? Because I've done it as well. We've never used the name

of a partner more in a podcast. I think we love the name Roy. We love saying Roy. We love saying Roy. I like to say the name Roy. Roy Roy Roy the the the the the the the the the the the that Roy that Roy the that Roy that Roy that Roy the that Roy that that Roy that Roy that that that that that that that that that tooomoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoy. Roy too. Roy toozymeoy. Roy too. Roy. Roy. Roy. Roy. Roy. Roy. Roy. Roy. Roy. Roy. Roy. Roy. Roy. Roy. Roy. Roy. Roy. Roy. Roy. Roy. Roy. Roy. Roy. Roy. Roy. Roy. Roy. Roy. Roy. Roy to say to say to to say to to to to to to say to to to to to say to to say. Roy. Roy. Roy. Roy. Roy. Roy. Roy. Roy. Roy. Roy. Roy. Roy. Roy. Roy. Roy. Roy. Roy, Roy, Roy, the the th. Roy, the the th. Roy, the th. Roy, the the the th. Roy, the tha. Roy, the to toooooooooooooo. Roy, to to to to have the name Roy and organised. Yeah, I reckon we've said Roy 20 times in this podcast. Normally we've forgotten the name of the partner the moment has come out of the person's mouth. Well, it's funny because when I first met him, I was like, is Roe the real name? And he said, yeah, it is my real name. And I was like, the only other Roy I know is Roy proper from Coronation Street He was like yeah, well Roy Keene Roy Keene of course, but he was named William Officially after his grandfather and then his mother fancied a doctor

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He is like an unbelievable dad, like unbelievably hands-on, has like an insane capacity. Like this madness of when they were newborns, it'd be like, oh, Jesus, they'd wake in the middle of the night, and I think this is never going to end. And he would say, oh my God, it's so lovely to get up in the middle of the night and have those cuddles and it's not going to last forever. And I'd be like, are you just saying this to try and boy me? But like he has an insane capacity to hold that that that that that that that that that th th that th the the th. th th th th th th th th thian thian to to the to to thi to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to to to to to be to be to be to be to be to to to be to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to be to be th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the the the the the thi. the the the thin. the the the the the the the the the the. the the. to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to be them and me. And that's kind of amazing and you only realize that when you really, really need it but it is, it is something else. And then I mean, I guess it's the annoying, like in an airport, he freaks us all out. It is absolutely intense and emotional and, I mean, it's highly irritating,

but it's very stressful traveling with him even though he has the bloody laminated thinking we're all running to the gate two hours before you know rushing to stand still everyone feels it in the car on the way it's like it's quite intense airport dad airport dad it's an absolute nightmare and it's so cliche that I'm like babe give it a rest we're gonna get there anyway but this is not cute you need to lay off so a bit to airport daddy airport dad needs to yeah lie down adja has been absolutely amazing to have you on thank so much guys cheers right to later Angela Scanlon look at I'm doing straight off the record Rob look at you you absolutely pro I've met Andrew a few times and she's like that like that like that like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like that like that like to be the to be the the to be to be the to be to be to be to be the to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to they. they. the the the the they. the the the the the the the they. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the to to to they. they. the that straight off the record there Rob. Look at you, you're absolute pro.

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Oh, I'll tell you next year. Yeah, I'll see it. Right, I'll see you next week, Josh. Bye. Hello. I'm Giles Brandreth. And I'm excited to tell you about my brand new podcast, Rosebud. It's me talking to famous and fascinating guests about their first memories. There's Dame Judy Dench talking about her first love.

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