Parenting Hell with Rob Beckett and Josh Widdicombe - S8 EP10: Jason Bell

Episode Date: February 9, 2024

Joining us this episode to discuss the highs and lows of parenting (and life) is the former NFL player Jason Bell. Jason now presents the NFL coverage for Sky, he also appeared on Series 18 of Strictly Come Dancing, and has one daughter with Girls Aloud singer Nadine Coyle. Parenting Hell is a Spotify Podcast, available everywhere every Tuesday and Friday. Please leave a rating and review you filthy street dogs... xx If you want to get in touch with the show here's how: EMAIL: [e-mail] INSTAGRAM: @parentinghell MAILING LIST: parentinghellpodcast.mailchimpsites.com  A 'Keep It Light Media' Production  Sales, advertising, and general enquiries: [e-mail] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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be a parent, which I would say can be a little tricky. So to make ourselves and hopefully you feel better about the trials and tribulations of modern-day parenting, each week we're chatting to a famous parent about how they're coping. Or hopefully how they're not coping. And we'll also be hearing from you, the listener with your tips, and advice, their, and advice, their, and advice, their, and advice, their, their, and advice, and advice, their, their, and advice, their, and their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, thea, their, their, their, and, their, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and of course, tales of parenting woe. Because let's be honest, there are plenty of times where none of us know what we're doing. Hello, you're listening to Parenting Hell with... Henry, can you say Josh or really go? Can you say Josh or really go? Can you say Rob Bracket? Can you say Rob Brackett?

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podcast, work days are always more manageable on a Tuesday and Friday. Thanks for all the laughs. Zoe from Gosport Portsmouth. Gosport, tho spoce. Gospor thanks. Oh well, what's that in the background? It sounds like piglets. Yeah, what's the the the the the the the the the their is is is is is is is is in the back is in the back. The the back is in the back. The the back. The the back. The the back. The the back. The the back. The the back. The the back. The back. The back. The back. The back. The back. The back. The back. The back. The back. The back. The back. The back. The back. The back. The back. The back. The back. The back. The back. The back. The back. The back. The back. The back. The back. The back. The back. The back. The back. The back. The back. The back. The back. The back. The back. The back. The back. The back. The. The. The. The. The. The. The. The. The. The. The. The. The. The. The. That. The. That. That. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. the. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the are picklets. That's from Pepper Piglets. P.S. were piglets. P.S. Little known facts. We are the first piglets to listen to podcasts. How are you, Josh? You got a good. You teased us with a Jason Bell story last time he spoke. Yeah, I've begun Project Girls Aloud, Rob. Okay, what's project? This sounds like a start of a stalking case. No, it's is is is to to to to to to to to to to to to th. they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's the they's the their they's their. they's their. their. their. th. they's their. their. their. th. th. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. they. they. they're. they're. they're they're th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the the the the into Girls Aloud. Right, so Lou, I didn't realize mine are. Ah, there you go. I mentioned, because I was like, oh, you know, I spoke

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It's got, which is the chorus, which is the people that write those songs are called Xenomania who are based in Kent. Zenomania? That sounds like a problematic kid's entertainers. I'd like to make a complaint about what happened to my kids at Zenomania. You said it was a ballpull. Oh so they helped write the songs or did they write all the songs? Well they're the writing team that girls allowed work with and they do the sugar babes and they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they're they're they're they're they're they're they they they they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're to they're to they're to to they're to to they're.. they're. they're. I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I they're. I I they're. I they're. I they're. I they're th. I th. I th. I've th. I've toled. I've tole. I've tole. I've tole. I've th. I'm tho. I'm tho. I'm tho. I've they're the writing team that Girls Aloud worked with, and they do the Sugar Babes and they did Believe by Share. I think, I think they're up there is Lenin McCartney Rob. Really? Who is it, who is Zenomania then? Who's in Zenoanamani?

It's a bry a comedian called Brian Higgins and a woman called Marina or something like that. And I just think girls are loud or incredible. I just think the songs are unbelievable. Well yeah, well I do feel a bit mean though we're just literally talking about Jason Bell's ex his music before he's intervie. So sorry, okay let's move on. Project NFL. It's like Abby and I tell you what that volley that that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that that that that that that that that's that's that that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's It's like having Abby Clancy on and then going, I tell you what, that volley that Croci did.

Yeah, okay, let's move on Project NFL, Rob. Talk to you about Jason Bell, your favorite Jason Bell NFL play. Project NFL's hit the skids of it, was it? Yeah, so what's going a huge NFL head, Rob. You love the Bengals, isn't it? I love the big, I love gridiron. I tried it, Rob, I tried my best.

It's on too late, it's too long. It is good sport, but fucking hell mate. Have I got time for good sport? I think I'm just dapping out of good sport until... Well, I do think if you're into football and I'm into football and boxing, it does limit opportunity to watch more of... I love basketball, but it's on too late. MMA, I watch MMA boxing and football on my main ones, but that's football on every night this week. Yeah, well, I don't I I I I I I I that I that I that that that that that that that that that that's I that's I that's I that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's th. It's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's th. that's thi. thi. that's thi. thi. thi. that's thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thee. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. thea. that's that's that's that's that's that but that is football on every night this week. Yeah well I didn't even do that I just I I just haven't got a life Rob. Well yes you have I think what do you do you go what do you do when you get a bit of tongue you went yoga this night we went to watch we watched the end of the

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I play football at 8 p.m. On Sundays. Yeah, I think, see, I've got to go there and back. Also, it's a hobby. You've got to put yourself first. I find contact sports stressful. Going goal then? I tell you what that's a grop. I broke my wrist once when I went in goal in five-side football because someone hit a hard shot and it bent my fingers back. And that broke your wrist? Yeah. Right, so you don't like contact sport, right?

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Are you looking for companionship? Like, uh... No, I've got rows. No, not like that, but like, are you looking for like to hang out with people as well as do a sport? So like. the walking's boring and I think everyone gets a slight PTSD from lockdown walks. Yeah, I do think. So, especially if you haven't moved.

I've got back into walking since I moved, but when I lived in my old house, I was so bored of that anywhere within a five mile radius of that area I had covered. That postman by the end of it. So in conclusion, I've got nothing going on. You've got nothing, you watch the end of a documentary. We're watching a good series. Which we watch over three separate nights. Because... well, Rose is only at home twice a week, and she? We barely together.

Is she at home now? Yeah, that's nice. We've got the evening together. No, I've got gigs. Fuck here now. You're giggings your hobby. Oh, because it come to that. That's what used to be your hobby. I know. That's the problem. You turn your hobby into a job and then suddenly I've got a hobby. Exactly because there's too much on the line, mate. That's why I won't go pro as a boxer or footballer. I don't want to lose it. That's why Morrissey never played instruments. He still wanted to love music.

Oh my god, I was in a taxi the other day talking to Morris. Okay. And the guy went, actually did the Smiths. Yeah. And I was like, fucking out, that's cool. What was he like, yeah? And he went, oh, he's the weirdest thing. Dropped him off, went around the corner, guess who I picked up? Neil Morrissey. But he didn't put two and two together. Oh he just thought it was weird it was someone who's famous people.

I just thought it was weird that there was two famous people. I was saying they going, mate, you're telling an anecdote here, you've got an open goal here. Did you say that to him? No, because I couldn't believe it. I was like like I didn't want a trampilin's punchline. Also you're trying to pick chat to a minimum really aren't you? Yeah exactly I didn't want to go I tell you what I tell you what I tell you what is a topic for you mate do you do I had so and I had so and so and I'll say like Billy like like like like like like like like like like like like like Billy like Billy like Billy like Billy like Billy like Billy like Billy like Billy like Billy like Billy like Billy like Billy like Billy like Billy like Billy like Billy like Billy like Billy like Billy like Billy like Billy like Billy like Billy like Billy like Billy like Billy like Billy like Billy like Billy like Billy like Billy like Billy like Billy like they like they go, and they go, oh they were so funny. So, you know, well, now I feel I've got to put a fucking shift in him. Yeah.

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Teed up. But right, well should we get Bell on? Yeah, legend. Let's get a wonderful man. Incredible bloke. Jason Bell. Please welcome to the podcast Mr. Jason, there's a lot on your resume here. Your ex-NFL strictly come dancing. Now a presenter and pundit for NFL in the UK and I think in the US as well. And on top of that you went into Wall Street or something but I don't understand money so you're some sort of big city player as well and you've got a kid which really helps this episode anyway.

That helps at all. So what would you how would you describe yourself to a newcomer to the world of Jason Bell? What's your number one thing? Oh, right now it's definitely the NFL. It's definitely presenting in football. It's everything's seasonal to me, and I've lived by this schedule my entire life, you know, from August until mid-February, it's all NFL. So I kind of like in, and in the off-season, I start diving back into my other business in the US Which is finance private wealth management for athletes entertainers

So I went to that when I retired had a passion for that so helping people like myself and I enjoyed it all kind of works together and intertwines all the same lessons and tools Oh, you're so fucking positive Jason. I love it. I love Americans. Oh, I feel like you're like a drip of like vitamins. You know, when people go on an IV dream? Just to get pumped up. I feel like I could take on the world after that, just hearing about you. Hey, you know, what's funny is everybody's got a role. So when I was on the team, my role role, my role, my role, my role, my role, my role, thol, my role, my role, thol, my role, tham, tham, tham, tham, thrown, thrown, thin, thin, thin, thin, their their, their, their, their, thin, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, to. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. th. the the the thi. thin, th, I come on the field, maybe we were kicking off or I'd play, you know, on third down. It was come on, bring it energy, make sure everybody feels it.

You got a position as well, though, didn't you? You didn't just share. Yeah, yeah. I was out there balling now. Don't get twisted. I was making plays, but you know, it's just what do you bring in practice? When nobody's up for it, you know, when it's a hard day to work out and you got a run in the summertime. I was always that guy, just come out there at the beginning and the morning just start yelling and just, hey, let's go out and do this. And you know, it's natural to me, so yeah,

thank you for saying that to parenting Jason? I do and that's why my daughter looks at me like I'm crazy half the time So how old you've got one child how old your daughter? She's nice. She'll be 10 tomorrow Oh, lovely. What are you doing for it tomorrow? What's the same? Yeah, we had a big birthday party on the weekend, so she did tea with her friends. It was really cool. Yeah, we're gonna. What kind of sushi? the the the the the the the the the the the the you. Yeah, the the the the you. Yeah, you. Yeah, you. you. the you. you. you. you. you. You, you've you've you've you've you've you've you've you've you've you. You've you've you've you've you've you've you've you've you've you've you've you've you've you've you've you've you've you've you've you've you've you've you. You you you you. You you. You you. You you. You you. You you. You you. You you. You you. You the the the the the the the the the the th. You've th. You've th. You've th. You've got th. You've got th. You've got th. You've got th. You've got th. You've got th. You've got th. You've got th. You've got th. You've got th. You've got th. You've got th. You've did tea with her friends it was really cool but she wants sushi on after school yeah yeah well what kind of sushi is she because my kids like sushi but it's strictly just the bottom squashed down bit of rice and I have to take the salmon off the top to eat what your children like what your children like is rice Rob that's what your children like hey my she likes the sushi man she likes salmon Shashimi she's into that she'll try yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they the the, mom, she likes the sushi, man. She likes salmon, sashimi. She's into that.

She'll try, she'll try it all, but yeah. She got into it early when we were living back and forth to New York and she just started getting into it then. And yeah, she's got a great pal and like her mom, not her dad. Do you spend your time, so are you between both countries? No, I'm here. Once she started school, you have to kind of lock in and make a decision. So I've been here once school started and yeah, this is home to me. Yeah, because you're separated from her mom, but I read so you were like in LA for a bit, is that right? And then you, so you're here now, now she's at school, but you moved in together together together together as together as together as well, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to me, to me, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the they., they. they. they. the the they. the the the the the the the they.a, too, too, to, to, to, they. to're here now, she's at school, but you moved in together as well over COVID as well. Is that correct?

Yeah, we were all, you know, COVID, everybody's figuring it out. Yeah, we've always been close, tight knit, so yeah. Yeah, it's an amazing though to be able to, even though you're not together anymore, to still have that connection where it's really impressive and quite special. She's, you know, I always look and I tell the night and my daughter all the time, man, you just got the best mom in the world, you know, you're so lucky. And it's when you see someone parent and you see how they put the child before everything,

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I was like, where are the sports for all the young girls? Because in America, I got tons of sports. So, but it's starting to happen and they're pushing it and the opportunities are there. So yeah, just trying to get her involved with everything. That's the key. And when you're working with the NFL Academy, what the NFL, what the NFL, what the NFL, what the NFL, what the NFL, what the NFL, what, what the NFL, what, the NFL, through their children there? You don't see that at the academy because it's different. They're away from home. They're at the university of the Lafayette so they're just chilling up there doing all that. So it's just the kids locking into school. A lot of them are, it's just fascinating to

how determined they are and how focused they are because all of them want to go to a university and continue to play a sport they love. So they're just so driven with that. I mean, their schedule is demanding, but they love it. They meet the challenge. And you're seeing all the stories of all these kids going on to college, to colleges, especially in the US playing football. And it's the opportunities. I mean, it's my life. If I planned the sport I love, going to school at UCLA, opened up everything for me. Everything changed then because of what I, what and who I was exposed to.

And what kind of parent are you on the sideline? In the UK, soccer football, you know, here is the biggest, biggest thing, but the dads especially get embarrassingly loud and aggressive, you know, I can... They're horrible, Jason, they're horrible. Every, like, every sort of dad I know around this area has got a story about the time. They've been on the touch line when a dad's gone, like walked on, it's insane. Does that happen in America? that's the time. You see it all the time and you sports sports sports sports sports sports sports sports sports sports sports sports sports, I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I the lines? Oh, for sure. You see it all the time and you sport in America.

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and I will never be that kind of parent because I've seen it before. I didn't have pressure when I was playing. My parents were always there, but they weren't overly involved unless I needed them to be. And I think it helped me because I had to figure it out myself. Kobe Bryant, the late Kobe Bryant, I read somewhere where he was talking about coaching his daughter and how he had this hands-off approach because he was like, she needs to figure it out in there. I can't tell her the answer.

And I think sports, as for kids, it teaches you a lot of things, a lot of lessons that you will have to learn in life. And if you learn them there and you figure out how to handle them in those situations, it helps you when you're an adult. So you can't give them the answers. They just got to figure it out them. But in the moment, it's on them. And I believe that you kind of just need to relax with the parent and let them do that. You said sports day there.

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Yeah. I'm like, go enjoy it. All I can do, Like if I win, everybody's like, you won, cool, show off. If I lose, it's like, oh man, he lost. But when you're not racing, for them, for those dads, whoever wins, there's the asterisk there, isn't there going? It's basically like winning a medal at the Moscow Olympics when USA run that. Like it's that doesn't really count because it's been boycotted by the big guy. Also as well those other that's if they're up against you they've got a chance of beating the NFL guy they are gonna put everything on the line they don't

care about hamstrings they don't care about injury they're gonna be going at it like animals. Man the physical therapist I go to is like oh I always know when sports days around all the dads start coming in again. I was like, see, they're out, they're blowing out hammies, ACL's getting torn, Achilles popping, nah, I don't got time for that. None. You're super sort of positive and confident, and I think that's an American trait as well as yourself, you know. their daughter, obviously, European, you, th and, th and, th like from you? Because she sees how you act with people and things like that. And also her mom is super confident as well, but is it, do you think it's a British thing or it's sort of a parent thing of like instilling that self-confidence that American seemed to have, but British people

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difference in how the cultures deal with things. I mean it's fascinating. Even you know when I first came here and I wasn't doing the media stuff I was you know heavily in finance even how people talked about their finances in this country. I was like, oh that's different you know it's a different approach and I was like okay and I started to dive into the behavioral side of that and it was fascinating. How are Britsen? How are they approaching it compared to Americans differently? A bit more embarrassed? Yeah, they just don't talk about it, you know, and especially on the athlete side, you know, that was that was the core of my business, so I would look at football th and th and th and th and th and th and th and th and th and th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, how are, how are th. How are, how are th. How are, how are, how are, how are, how are, how th. How th. How th. How th. How th. How th. How, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. How, th. th. th. th. th. How, th. How, th. How, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. that, that, that, that, how are, how are that, how are that, how are that, how are, how are that, how are, how are, how are that, how, nobody really is talking about this stuff or, you know, how does this happen in the locker room or the changing room? Like, what's the dynamics?

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So you know. So she's 10 now, so she's still at primary school, but secondary school is sort of looming. Yeah. How different is the schooling here to America? Like have you noticed those differences when you're dropping her off compared to like your experience is growing up? Definitely my experience is growing up a little different, but you know, I went to private school when I was younger, so I remember that. I think the biggest thing for me is understanding, you know, how they have to change schools. So that secondary school thing,

just trying to understand that and catching up with that. So I'm always asking a bunch of questions because that whole process is just new to me and and how intense it is for parents. You know, they're just losing it right now. I mean, I'm staying as calm as possible and I mean, maybe that's, maybe I should be losing it and starting to panic a little more, but you know, they're serious. Like I didn't think it wasn't like this until I was choosing what university I was going to go to. Not like this. You know, I'm like, it's like, man, it's like it's going to change their whole life. So what secondary school they go to. But it's just a part of how it is out here.

So I'm catching up and I got a lot of people educate me on it and try to learn more every day because it's right around the corner. I do think it's got a bit over the top. I think people didn't really care about education that much a few years ago. Now everyone is going mad and like they've got to do this so that they can get the right 11th. They need to go to that primary school to get the right 11 plus because if they pass that they can go to a grammar school and they they've they've they've they've they've they've they've got they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're th. they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're. they're. they're. they're. they're. they're. they're. they're. th. th. th. th. th. the. go. go. go. go. go. go. go. go. go. they're go go go go go go they're go go they're go they're go they're go they're go they're they're s and that alien, oh my God. It's a lot of pressure on the kids, man. So much pressure. And we don't even know who they are as far as what they want to do. Like let them figure out their path. The best thing is if they identify what they want to do

and then you support them. Like, isn't that, I'm going for this, this is what I could be an American footballer, well not an American footballer you just said it would be really weird. When I was young, I loved the sport and I loved playing with the sport with my friends, and all I wanted to do is continue to do that. So because I had so much joy playing this game I wanted to do it and continue so I had to had to do it in high school and then I wanted to keep going. I had to go to college and in college I wanted to go pro because I never wanted it to stop. So I never told myself I want to be a professional a football player. I just thi to to to to to to to to the to the to to th. thu. I thu. I thia. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I the the the the the the the the the the the the to be the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the to to the to be a to to be a to be a the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I want. I want. I want. I want. I try. try. try. try. try. try. to try. to to to to to to to to to to to be a professional football player. I just wanted to keep playing football. And I never skipped a stage or a step and I

think that's what gave me an advantage because I knew what work it took that day to get to tomorrow and tomorrow I could see. It wasn't like this futuristic thing. And I think a lot of people they had had this end goal, so they got caught up and consumed with that, which I was like, I don't know what the end is going to be, but I know if I do these things, I can play tomorrow. And that was the whole thing. I remember, I just want to go to college because I want to continue my education, I wanted to be free, but take that pressure off, the pressure, the pressure, to the pressure, to that pressure off my parents and I want to you know and I want to play Play football so once I was in school in UCLA and I knew I was good after about my second year. I was starting and I was young and I was like I may I think I can make it to the pros and And I got hurt so I almost didn't but everything I did at that point in time was I wanted to keep playing I just wanted to keep playing. I just wanted to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to play play play play play play play play play play play play play play play play the to play play play to to play the the the the to play play play play play play play play play play play play play play play play the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the to play to play to to to to the the to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the play play play play play play play play play play play play play the the play play play the play play play the the the the the the the the the the the the but everything I did at that point in time was I wanted to keep playing.

I just wanted to keep playing. It wasn't even about the money or anything like that. I just wanted to play the game. That was always my approach. It's everything I do to this point is do I want to do it? And then I put all my effort towards that and then the monetary gain usually just comes because I've worked really hard. That's the thing isn't it? It's doing it for the sake of wanting to do it. And then you're enjoying it and you're passionate about it and you're that there's such a good lesson across everything you do as a kind of in life that you'll get so much more out of it. It's like you know when you see parents pushing their kids into something, if that kid's not passionate about it, they're just going to resent it. You've got to be doing the thing you want to be doing, otherwise it's pointless. I like watching like football when you see like players look sad and I feel like they've had too much pressure from their parents as kids and they don't enjoy playing and their......elish who plays so like just loves it, smile on his face. How does the

education work in America then if you're really talented at football and you're like 13-14 in the UK if you're super-talented at football, when you're at a club at Arsenal or Chelsea whatever they don't even bother going to school really you just just think, fuck this, I'm just going to play football, get my pro contract. And when they turn pro at like 1718, they just, they've got any qualifications and don't care. Where in America, they don't turn pro, that's the thing. No, of course, the pick up is so small. So like college university before you get picked for the NFL. But what if you're not very academic and you get shit grades?

Do they just ignore it and let you play because you're a good player? How does it work? There must be a bit of a conflict? Oh, you got to go to school and get the grades because the way the system is set up. They don't have a feeder system the same way football does in this country, right? Like baseball kind of has that in America, but they don't have a system like that. So to kind of be involved to where you can be picked up, you have to be in the college system or something like that. And obviously the game of football in the NFL is such a physical game. Like from a skill set, you can't look at a 13 year old and and really know if they got it but they don't. I mean there's certain

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Like, I'm eliminating things you can do. When I'm on the field, I've studied so much that I can look at the situation where we are on the field, what's on the clock, down and distance, what your formation is, and all of this is happening in 20, 30 seconds. I can now say these are the three things you can do to me. Right. And I've seen really athletic people that can't do that. Well, now you're playing everything. You're playing every odd.

When I've just eliminated half of it. And yeah, so it doesn't matter how physically talented you are if you can't narrow down what they can do. I got you. I got you. So like a friend of mine just got the head coaching job for the Las Vegas Raiders. He's a tough player. The name is Antonio Pierce. We grew up together. Smart guy I've ever seen on the field. We'd be in the game and he just tell you tel tel tel tel tel th got th got th got th got th got the game th got th got the field. We be in the game and he just tell you it's going this way. Do this. Stop. look at that. Just amazing. And that's how he was in the classroom. Same guy. So yeah. I mean, you know, smart players last. Right. So they sort of need that, you know, it's almost an equate, a physical equation,

that you're working out mid game. Yeah, always. So yep, the smartest player. Who's your team, Josh, you've got a team at you? Who's your NFL team? I like Cincinnati too. I like, I like a quarterback. I like Joe Burr, I'm a big fan of his. Well, I came back to NFL this year, because I've become a bit disillusioned with the Premier League, I was like, I'm going to start watching NFL again and Cincinnati went down the fucking pan. Well your quarterback got hurt early you know and he got hurt he got hurt but he'll be back you're in good hands next year next year no but surely if you're British you can you're allowed to glory hunt and

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I can't ask you two walking into the O2 together and just people going, are those two mates? We'll have a good time, man. We'll have a good time. I know all the songs. Yeah, we all know all the songs. Oh, that great. Oh, man. Rob, you should come. Your daughter's going to get into girls allowed. They like girls allowed.

Well, yeah, well, yeah, I want normally wait for your child to say, I want to go and see this band rather than you convincing they're like girls and that. I mean, we're having a conversation about letting them be themselves and look at us. Yeah, exactly. Just constantly times as long as they go to the right gigs, that's what I say. So, um, because you're, you work with the, uh, with the NFLF, the NFL, the NFL, the NFL, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the, uh, with the NFL Academy at, um, Loughborough. And so what is like, if, if I had a kid here, who's really good, uh, showing a real interest in American football, like, what would be the route for them? I'll be honest, it's hypothetical. My daughter's not even into girls allowed, let alone

NFL. Yeah. But, what's the time we're going this helmet on and listen to the sound of the underground We've got a busy weekend. Why are we on the trains at love for a daddy? Shut up. Just be yourself. Oh, that's good. What's the kind of route for a British child if they're really into American football then? Well, luckily they have tryouts, which don't really exist anywhere else where you can just go try out.

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That's a good move. Just get an 18, 19 year olds. I don't, they don't. Also, I think most of the people that are that big that be suitable to NFL are criminals because they used to fear to enforce bailiffs, stuff like that. I was thinking of it because I don't go to nightclubs anymore but this could be my excuse. I was looking for the big guys. I tell you this is what we're doing. Me, Josh Jason. I wasn't even trying to go to the club. Let's go to a nightclub after girls. We'll go to the venue in New Cross and we'll go scouting for NFL players. We're trying to help the kids.

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That sort of, you know, there's the World Cup, Six Nations is mega. Now, he's gone to NFL on like a development program. And that's not necessarily the thing you're involved with in Lufbra. But like, the money back to rugby? Is that something you could achieve or do you have to wait to get to the top before the money comes in NFL? I mean obviously at the top the real money is there and I'll be honest I don't know rugby salaries and wages so I can't speak to that I know the minimum salary. the minimum salary. thi th I th I th I th I th I th I that I that I that I that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the the the the the the the the the the the the. the. the the. the the the the that that that the that that the the NFL are pretty high compared to other sports. So what's the minimum salary? Is that public knowledge? The minimum salary?

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And then everything works out. And usually the guys on the outside get paid more than the guys on the the you're on the outside you're kind of in one-on-one situations right you don't have health so that's kind of how the game works besides the quarterback and yeah so yeah so you got you got injured it sort of cut your career slightly sure how old were you when you you had to retire I retired at 30 yeah yeah so you were younger than it should have been and how did that affect you how do you how do you how the how the how you how you how the you how you how the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the to the to the the the to the to to the to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the they. they. they. they. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the they. thooooo. the the the the the the the was younger than it should have been. And how did that affect you? How would you know, Jason? Sorry. I'm 45. But I would retire probably. I had maybe a year or two left. I mean 30 in the NFLers. You made it to 30. I was getting called the old guy, you know. Oh really? Yeah, yeah. Well, you're like 27, give it out of a the job. No, I'm 38. I'm 38, I thought I had a chance. It's a young man's game. I'm quite brawled. I thought I might have a go at the one in the middle jobs. It's a young man's game.

It's the recovery from the, you know, from week to week, it's just, it's tough. You can still run, jump and all that, but it's just bouncing back. You know, quarterbacks, they can't play play play th play th play th play yeah, when you're out there trying to have speed and reaction time, it changes quickly. I'll play five-a-side football, I know it's different, Jason, but like I'm 38. But when a 29-year-old turns up and even that's old, I'm like, this fuck is too quick. That shouldn't be allowed. Imagine you have to play five-a-side every single day. I didn't play for a little while Jason, right? About six months I had a bit of an injury and then I just fell out the loop of it and I'm being a bit unhealthy, drinking and going out and partying.

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That's why I did it. And I'm so glad because I learned some things about myself that I wouldn't have learned if I wasn't on that show because it was completely out of my comfort zone. Yeah I bet. And what did you learn about yourself? I learned that. I always thought I ran towards the challenge and I confirmed that. When the pressure was on, like when it was at its height, I just was like, yeah, let know like it the click and I thought I had in football right I knew I had it in the game I love and you're like is that just something that I'm comfortable with or is that just me and it strictly I realize no I'll run I'll run towards the wall like I'll do it yeah and I also learn that I am really good the the. And I've th th th th th th th th th th th the thus thus the that I thus that I the the that I thus that I'm that I'm that I'm thus thus thus. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm the the th. I'm the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the. I the. I the. I the. I the. I the. I'm the. I the. I theeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeck. the. the. thee. theee. the. I the. I the if I have a good teammate.

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It really is. It's, it's just an honor like. And you know, you look at all those things and you just go, wow, I survived it. We made it through, you know, kind of. Because if it was playing football, it's supposed to be so hard to have a family and keep that schedule because it is non-stop when the season's on. Yeah, I was retired luckily, you know, yeah, so and so I was able to be there and be locked in but yeah, I've seen some of my teammates during the season and they've come in the locker room and you just looked at him like, oh no, this this is going to be a hard day for you buddy. You know? You didn't sleep, did you?

And they're like, oh man, no, man. I think that's quite key. If you just accept that you will probably get about six hours sleep a night and you're up from 6 a.m. if you're lucky, and that's the rest of your life. Yeah. It's one of those things where I feel like the res comes from it's not all it's not I'm not by myself I'm not the only one like people have done this and they survived and they made it and having those conversations with people that have and them reminding you it's going to be okay when you're in it what do you tell yourself it's going to be okay I know I feel like this but it's going to be okay tomorrow.

Tomorrow is going to be all right and I think reminding yourself those things, it's key. So that's why I always said team no sleep. I would say it in my head, team no sleep, this is just what it is. All of my friends that have been through it, everything's okay. So it's going to work out. Because I'd say there was bits when I think you and Jason are a very different mindset. It doesn't mean I don't question myself like that. It's just at what point do I say there's a solution to this or it's just going to be a problem? And I go, I got to, I know it sucks, but I got to see that there's the other side of midnight and there's a solution. Yeah. Are you going to the Super board??? the super? to to to the super? to to the super? to to to to the super? to to the super? No to to to to the super? No the super? No to the super? No? No? No? No? No? No? No? No? No? No? No? No? I the super? I the super? No? No? No. I that that that that that that that that that that that that that that the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the super? I the super? I the super? I the super? I the super? I the super? I the super? I the super? I the super but I got to see that there's the other side of midnight and there's a solution.

Yeah. Are you going to the Super Bowl, Jason? I am going to Super Bowl. Yes. Oh, in Vegas with your mate who now runs a team that's going to get me. I will see him early in the week. He is focused. He's working. I'll go to to to go. to go. to go. to go. to. to. to. to. the their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. their. the tho. tho. their. their. their. their. their. their. the the the the the the their. the their. their. the the the the the their. the their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. the the tho. tho. thooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooe. the, go to dinner with him and his wife and his kids and everything. And then just, you know, lock in. To be honest, every Super Bowl, I'm sleep by like seven because I'm so jet-lagged.

You know, I mean, I got all these plans. I got dinner set up with my old teammates. I make none of them. Yeah. I'm so disappointed in myself every year and the daytime I'm full of life and then all of a sudden I go back, get ready to go to dinner, passed out every night, every single night. But I travel to America a lot of filming and stuff and about the times I wake up like 7 a I'm like right I'll go to the gym, go for a walk, who wants a coffee? I have a coffee? Yeah, shaking a dinner. You see, you, I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I'll, I'll, I'll the the the the the the the the the the th. Yeah, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, go, go, go,? I'll have a fucking out, this is easy. And then we're shaking at dinner. You see, you understand exactly what I'm talking about. In the morning, you got

everything. You got all the life. I think this should be like a jet lag support group where you could just message other people and go, let's hang out and never get inside. You see what we just figured out here? You see what we just figured out here? You see. You th. You th. You just. You just. You just. You just. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the th. th. the th. the th. th. th. the th. th. the th. You're just the th. You're to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their. You're their th. You're th. You're th. You're th. You're the. You're te. You're toda. today. today. today today today to to to to to to to like that. That's the true. We'll get that little WhatsApp go. Yeah. Can we get a prediction because this is hopefully going to go out before the Super Bowl. Can we get a prediction of your of the final? Oh man, this is tough because you want to go against you, mate. I haven't I haven't thought about it, but you'll be the first the first the first the first the first first first first first first first first first first first first first first first first first first first first first first first first first first first first first first first first first first first first first first first first first first first first first first first first first first be the first to know. I'm going with Kansas City to win because I love Patrick Mahomes. I think He's destined for greatness and if you're going to chase Tom Brady the greatest of all time You got to win back-to-back Super Bowls and you got to get another trophy if that happens we can continue to have that conversation until he retires, and I know people are tired of this. I know people are upset about this. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. to to the to to to to to to to to to to to to the to to to to to to to to to to to to to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to to to to to to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the their their their their their the. their the. their thro. toe. toe. to to to thro. to to thro. thro. the. their that conversation until he retires. And I know people are tired of this. I know people are upset about this.

But Taylor Swift Mania, I'm here for it. I'm all for it. Oh, I love it. It's just cool eyes. I'm all. I tell people, we, as NFL players, we fought for this. We've had helmets on our whole life. Nobody knew what our faces look like. But you know, social media, it took the helmet off. And now we got guys for your pop stars, the biggest pop star in America, one of her, Beyonce, to the game Jay-Z is already bringing

Beyonce. There we are. We're locked in. And in Vegas as well, it's sort of perfect, really. We got Usher at half-time. I'm going to be partying. to-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s. the-s. the-s-s. the-s-s-a-s. the-s. the-s. the-s-s-s-s. the-s. the-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-s. Wea-s. Wea-s. Wea-s. t-s. tode-s. t-s. to-s-s. to-sa-sa-sa-sa-sa-sa-sa-sa-sa-sa-sa-sa-sa-sa-sa-sa-s. to be partying at half time. You can count on that. I'm really excited about that. Full time you'd be a kip in the cab. Oh man, let me go. I'll be done. Done. But it'll be fun. I mean that's Super Bowl. It's it's it's it's like no other event. My mom finally begged me. She's like I'm coming to get you these tickets. But yeah. th. the. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. th. th. th. th. to. to. th. the to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. th. the. the. the. the. tip. tip. tip. tip. tipe. tipe. tipe. tipe. tipe. tipe. tipe. tipe. tipe. tipe. tipe. yeah no I got to get you these tickets but yeah she's ready we went to I went to it last year and it is insane and we went to the they had that that sort of like corporate VIP event before and there was like the Black Keys were on doing a gig then Jason Darulo what I couldn't get my head round was it was free beer and free but it was all, but when I turned around to the bar, there weren't a queue. I was like, we're definitely not in England. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

That's because everybody's just rolling through. It's just cranking out. Yeah, I've never seen anything like it. They don't have to take currency. Yeah, I don't have to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the currency. to to the currency. to the currency. to the currency. the currency. to the currency. They. They. They. They. They. They. They. They. They to to to to to the currency. They. They. They. They're to the to the the the the the that. I they they they they. I they're definitely. I they. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. We. We. We. We. We. We're definitely. We. We. We. We. We. We. We. We. We. We. We. We. We. We. We. We're definitely. We. We're definitely. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. we're definitely definitely definitely definitely definitely. th. the. We're definitely definitely definitely definitely definitely. th. they're definitely definitely definitely, they're definitely, they're definitely, they're definitely, we're an amazing event. So you think my homes is going to do it? I want that. I want that. I want that. Very, very good sitting on the fence. It's not your first time giving a prediction. No, it is. I want to go with my emotions right here. My emotions say I want to continue to have this conversation about Patrick Mahomes and his greatness. But he's got to win this one. And do. And do. And do. And do. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. that's, th. that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, I'm, I'm, I's, I's, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I want, I want, I want, I want, I want, I want that, I want that. that. that, I that. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the their, I their, I their, I their, I their, I their, I their, I'm, I'm, I'm, very their, very their, very their, I want their, very th. th. tho. tho. the. the. theat the. this one. And do you think Usher would do a better or worse Super Bowl show than Girls Aloud if they were doing it?

Oh, girls allowed would be, it would be amazing. Yeah, well, you're insane, Josh. Imagine if you went, no, actually it would be ushaw. It would be, even if it, man, those shows, I mean, I've been to a lot in the past. It is, you're locked in. It is entertaining. It is something else. The songs, I mean, they really, you, I see why they are what they are. I mean, it's just amazing. It's great.

And I've been to a lot of shows, so it's a good time. And they're not paying me anything by the way. This is personal experience. This is great. I'm just telling you. I loved it. If you got anything more you want to promote from people who are paying you and then we'll finish the interview. No, man, I'm just hanging out with y'all. This is good. I'm promoting your podcast. I like it. Any products you like, go for it. We got you, we got a free sandwich maker the other day did we? A Brevill challenge maker. Do you know what happened earlier? Did you see this Rob? When you did a thumbs up a thumbs up came on your screen?

Who me? No, Jason? No, Jason? Really? Really? Do it again? Do it again? No look there? Oh, look? there? the same question Jason. to thur. the the the the the the the th. the th. Do it? Do it? Do it? Do it? Do it? Do it? Do it? Do it? Do it? Do it? Do it? Do it? Do it? Do it? Do it? Do it? Do it? Do it? Do it? Do it? Do it? Do it? Do it? Do it? Do it? Do? Do? Do? Do it? Do it? Do it? Do it? Do? Do? Do? Do? Do? Do? Do? Do? Do? Do? Do? Do? Do? Do? Do? Do? Do? Do? Do? Do? Do? Do? Do? Do? Do? Do? Do? Do? Do? Do? Do? Do? Do? Do? Do? Do? Do? Do? Do? Do? Do? Do? Do? Do? Do? Do? Do? Do? Do? Do? Do? Do? Do? Do? Yes? Yes? Yes? Yes? Yes? Yes? Yes? Yes? Yes? Yes? Yes? Yes? Yes? Yes? Yes? Yes. Yes? Yes? Yes? Yes? Yes? Yes? Yes? Yes? Yes. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the finished with the same question, Jason. Also, how did that thumbs up work? Is that something set up on this? I definitely didn't put that on here. Whose studio is this you're working in? This is our studio at the NFL office, actually. Nice. The last question, basically, was the one thing that your daughter's mother does parenting wise? We go, this blows me away. She's such an amazing mom.

She's unbelievable. And what one thing does she do that you go, hmm, not really a big fan of that. And if she listened back, she'd go, hmm, we've probably got a point. Well, the one thing she does really well, and I try to copy and emulate is understanding how to become intense situations with her with my daughter. It's like, it's, you know, because in those, you're teaching them something,

this this core skill on how to manage stress. And she does such a good job at that. Like if it's too, you know, we don't need to rush here. We don't need to panic here. You know, why teach them that. Like, if it's too, you know, we don't need to rush here. We don't need to panic here. You know, why teach them that? And I have learned by watching to copy that. Right. You know, because that's not how I am. I operate from this standpoint and the NFL does that where it's like, we're rushing to do this or I got to be on time or this has happened and or whatever like you know everything's tense and no she doesn't she doesn't allow that and it's really it's very smart I'm so glad that she does that as far as things she doesn't she does that that I don't like nothing of course why don't I put that are you serious are you guys the thumbs to give th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th the th th th th th th the th th th th the th I th I the th I the the thum the thum the the the the thus the the thus thus the thus that th th th th thi thi th thi thi thi thi the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th th th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is thus thus thumbs thumbs thumbs thumbs to to thumbs to thumbs to thumbs thumbs thumbs to thumbs thumbs thumbs thumbs thumbs th's that you're going to get me to say that?

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Thanks so much for doing this. Thanks for giving us your time. Hey, man. time keep it going great conversations man y'all doing a good thing cheers Jason I'm appreciate it Jason Bill I love to I love to I've run through a brick wall for that man I'd have kids of him you you see that wall behind you I'd be through that you'd run through that you'd run through that any single if Lou leaves me I want Jason Bell he's not he's probably not he single actually I know he's not with his daughter's mom no he can't be single not for long do you not with a smile and a thumbs up like that big question Rob big question Rob

do you reckon you and Lou could have a relationship like that if you split up depends the reason for splitting up doesn't it? The reason she splits up is she just can't stand you anymore. Oh God, my biggest fear unlocked. Well no, but yeah, every relationship is different. I'm so respectful of that, but yeah, it's all... Yeah, because also, really, the reality is, I think, it's easy to say when you're still in a relationship than not being in one, but ultimately the focus is the child. So whatever makes it easier for the child, I sort of feel like, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, the, the, the, the, the, the, thi, thi, thi, thi, the the thi, thi, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th, the th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi thi thi thiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii, thi, the the the the thi, still in a relationship than not being in one, but ultimately the focus is the child. Yeah.

So whatever makes it easier for the child, I sort of feel like you need to leave that any sort of problems or arguments at the door. But you know, but yeah, that's amazing that you can talk, you know, he moved back in with him in COVID and they get on so well. But we'll have to have to have have have have have have have have have have have have have have have have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have a to have a to have a the the the to have to have to have the the their their their to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the to have the to have the the the toda.a. the the the the the the the to the ttalk anymore. I'm like, oh, okay, have you told Jake, you might want to talk to him for a bit to tell him that because he seems to think you are. Yeah, he's coming to watch you at the O2 and if you don't want him there, that way, you find that he's not allowed in. Right, I'll see you on Tuesday, Josh. Oh yeah, I'll see on Tuesday. All right, bye.

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