Parenting Hell with Rob Beckett and Josh Widdicombe - S8 EP12: Sara Barron

Episode Date: February 16, 2024

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Hello, I'm Rob Beckett. And I'm Josh Winnockham. Welcome to Parenting Hell, the show in which Josh and I discuss what it's really like to be a parent, which I would say can be a little tricky. So, to make ourselves and hopefully you feel better about the trials and tribulations of modern-day parenting, each week we're chatting to a famous parent about how they're coping. Or hopefully how they're they're tha be hearing from you the listener with your tips, advice and of course, tales of parenting woe. Because let's be honest, there are plenty of times when none of us know what we're doing.

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But who are you envisaging coming round? No one really, it's more for me. So you can get ones that now, that aren't like, I've got to go and get the charcoal going for two hours and like. Because that's the thing, you suggested a gas one well I'm suggesting the if it's just for you it feels mental for you to be getting the charcoal going making yourself one burger and then being done Lou would probably be but the girls wouldn't really they'd rather me just put some sausages in the oven exactly that's a problem so what am I doing it for yeah because I

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But you're at Radio 2. Yeah, exactly. So I'm going Saturday so I'm gonna be cooking a brisket on my own on a Tuesday. I don't even really want. What I don't want to do is be recording this in summer and hear you sizzling away. What's that's over? One second I'm a bit late I'm just putting the charcoal on for a slow cook. And then cleaning it as well. We need a small business shelf for somebody cleans barbecues because it's just... There's so much mess associated with it. And then there's a huge bowl of fucking salad that you're gonna throw away. You put it in the fridge and then the next morning like why then I'll put that back in the fridge. Look at it. It's got dressing on. Cold store in the bin. No I wanted the councilor again. You make. You. You. to to to to to to to to to to to to be. to be. to be. to be. to be. to be. to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be the to be to be to be too. the the to to to to the to to the to the the to to the to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I the. I the. I the. I the. I the. thea. thea. tooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo. Soe wanted the council or again. You make a solid point, but I think that's why people get into it

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your Instagram posts. I watch them by clicking through to you. But Instagram was decided you are not one of my chosen people. Not at the top? However much I do this. You never come up. So you also have you seen this on Instagram. Yours always comes up. Yeah. What are your top three ones on your, if you go to your Instagram now, what ones are you getting? I'm not going to tell you Rob, because two of them are comedians that I think are really shit so I watch all of their stories. Oh, that's the problem, isn't it? That's a huge problem. But then if you just refresh it always changes it anyway, doesn't it? Does it? Yeah, if you refresh it, it just brings up a different ones. Right, do you want to do some correspondence? Should we do one bit of correspondence? Well, let's just do one little bitch because we get lots. Thanks so much for sending it in. We talk some out of shit though. We forget to do it, don't I'll just do the top one. Okay. called one of their new baby Beckett, sorry, did Rob see the news, a famous

Luke and Sassie Scott? Did Rob see the news a famous Tick-Tock Celeb, Luke and Sassie Scott? Do you know these? I don't know these? I don't know this. Called one of their new baby twins, Bobby Beckett. No. Bobby B.O. B. B. B. B. B. I. B. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. Did. Did. Did. Did. Did. Did. Did. Did. Did. Did. Did. Did. Did. Did. Did. Did. Did. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. C. S. C. S. C. C. S. C. C. C. C. C. S. C. C. C. C. C. S. C. baby twins, Bobby Beckett. No. Bobby B. O. B. B. B. I. Beckett. It must be superfan. It's a show from Anna. Or that they must sound like they're American. Wow. Bobby Beckett. Luke and sassy Scott. So is Beckett the middle name? No, it's a hyphen. So it's like Anne Marie Beckett. the the. the Sassy Scott Luke and Sassie Scott. Melbourne brothers, Luke and Sassy Scott. Right, so they're a gay couple that have had twins and they're from Melbourne. Wait, are they brothers? They can't be brothers.

Look, I'm a very liberal man, but I cannot, I cannot say I'm okay with two brothers. Being in a relationship and having children. You've got to draw the line somewhere. I don't have been. We've interviewed gay men that have had children through all different means and I'm fully for it. No problem with it whatsoever. However, two brothers, I can't abode it. No, they can't be brothers, can they?

Are they just brothers that have had kids together? Why does it say their brothers? What do you say their brothers? Well, I'm 500 years old. Also, I'm like, Bob Harbies trying to back to their brothers. It can't be if they're just bringing up two kids together. They're not in a couple. Right. Luke 32 and Scott 37 were part of a tight-knit family going about everyday lives.

Luke is a radiographer at the Melbourne hospital and Scott is a general manager at the Port Melbourne venue, the Timbyon. It says Melbourne brothers on their Instagram. So the brothers they're not a couple. We can't do correspondence ever again. They are brothers I think. They can't have kids. I don't understand anything. Look and Sessie's can't have brothers that do they have children? Are they still together? What's that mean? They still together? This is incest. Now I think, right, so I think they are brothers that do funny videos together.

I'm fine, Sassi Scott has been trying to have children. Right, thank the fucking lord, I've worked this out. Right. Look and Sassy Scott are brothers that do funny videos. Right. Sassy Scott has been trying to have children with his partner Marcus. Thank God. So Sassie Scott has got twins with his partner Marcus and one's called Bobby

Beckett, his brother who he works with, he's not in a relationship. Well, that's the end of the correspondence. Welcome, yeah. Welcome, Sarah Barron. At one point I was just going to say it's okay to have fuck your brother. But it's not is it? Each to their own. I don't know it anymore. Who am I to judge? I'll be on GB News trying to defend it. I just don't think it's okay to fuck your brother. I've been cancelled! What did you say? I just didn't think it's okay.

He's a fucking brother. Anyway, here's Sarah Barron. Jesus. It's hard, don't it, it's 2024? So, well, theyrown. So, wo'er. to be, the show, yeah, we all did together. I mean, I feel like, you know, there's like, you know, there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's th th th th th th to the podcast, Sarah. We've all met before, actually, on Josh's show Hypothetical. Years ago. Is that the show?

Yeah, we all did together. I mean, I feel like, you know, there's like, you want openness, but then sometimes someone can take it to a too open level and it gets instantly cringe-worthy. Yeah. But I felt that my, and I've said this, I've certainly, I've certainly, I've certainly, I've certainly, I've certainly, I've certainly, I've certainly, I've certainly, I've certainly, I've certainly, I've certainly, I've said th certainly, I've said thed, I've said thed, I've said thed, I've said that, I've said that, I, I've said that, I, that, you, that, like, that, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. that, you, you, you th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. You, you, you're like, you're like, you th. thi, you're like, waking nightmare professional moments was my experience. I'm hypothetical. And so I feel so grateful to be here and traumatized to see both of your faces together again. It was like the kind of thing that you'd have a nightmare about where you're on a panel show and you're like, what am I supposed to say? Like my buzzcocks? That your buzzcocks Josh? That was my buzzcocks? That was my buzzcox. that that that that th. that th. I that th. I that th. I that th. I th. I th. I that that that was my th. I th. I th. I th. I that that that that that that that that that that that that was th. Sorry th. I'm that that that that that that that that that that that that's that's that's that's that's. I I that's. I that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that th. I I I I I I I I I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I'm th. I'm thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thooooooooooo. I'm thoooo. I'm the. I'm thi. I'm what am I supposed to say? What? Oh, like my Buscocks. Like my Buzzcocks.

That your Buzzcocks, Josh? That was my Buzzcocks. Well, no, I'm not saying it was for you, not from the outside. I texted Alex Horn who toasted my Buzzcox disaster. About six months ago about it, and he had no memory of it. It's only in your th. It, th. It, th. It, th. It, th. It, th. It, th. It, th. It, th. It, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thus. That, their. th. th, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, th. That, their. That, their. That, their. That, their. That, their. That, their. That, their. That, their. That, their. That, their. That, their. That, their. That. That. That. That. That. That. That. th. th. th. th. th. to. to. to. th. to. thus. th. that's th. that's th. that's that's that's that's your that's your thus. that's your that's your thus. that. thus. th'm shocked to hear that you didn't enjoy that and you didn't, I just felt, oh, he's really funny and just joined in and it was fine. And here you are now. Well, here I am now, I think is the thing. And for me, this is going to be, and I'll just lean into the Americanness here, this

is going to that 2019 crash and burn failure. It wasn't! I mean everyone's got one of those. Everyone's got one. Our mom was what I lied to you. I had a nightmare on that. But it probably was fine but I felt like it was awful. So why did you feel like that was awful Sarah? What was going on? I mean I don't know how inside baseball this will or won't get so first of all it was it it it was it was it was it was it was it was it was it was it was it was it was it was it was it was it was it was it was it was it was it was it was it was it was it was it was it was it was the the the the the the the the the the the the the to to to to to to to to. to. to to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. I. I. I. I. I. I.'t know how inside baseball this Willer won't get. So first of all, it was the two of you, Obs, James, and Jonathan Ross and Maisie Adam. Yes. Good lineup, that isn't it?

Fuck here, no. Great lineup. Don't get that on Dave anymore. No. Like, this is never the best way to start is by talking about what a piece of shit you are, unless maybe it's somehow charming. But I can remember being backstage and watching Maisie, who has come up and up and up since then, and watching her chat, like do this sort of backstage Jonathan Ross chat, and thinking like, you know, they say what they always say before you do these things,

it's like, you're at a dinner party, just have a good time. Then you're sat there as the newbie being like, that's Jonathan fucking Ross. Yeah. Okay, but just like just be cool. Just be cool. And I'm much old, like I started stand up late. So I'm older than everyone and everyone's younger and I thought like my

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great thing about hypothetical. Like it's them, they're fun, they're not there to like edge you out. They don't want you to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to. the the the the to the the their their their their they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the they. they. the they. they. the. the. the. te. te. tea. te. te. toe. toe. te. te. toe. toe. te. te. they. there to like edge you out. They don't want you to have to prep. And I'm like, please let me have some prep. Like, please give me some work because I freeze. And this is gross and it's status obsessed, but that's part of my vibe. Like, I do not do well when I'm afraid of people. And it's not that I was afraid of you guys, but I was like, this is what they do, it's what they do. And it's not what I do, and I just sat there. I don't remember this at all, really.

Like my face was turning hot red. It's what Maisie is born for. Jonathan Ross is a king. Rob Beckett's going, going, go and go in. I was just like... We won't mean to though, were we, Sarah? No, no, no, no, no. First of all, if you were mean to me, then no. But it was like, um, and I don't want to,

it's not going to be interesting for your listeners to sit and have me just like, compliment you guys, because that's... I'm honest. This is, oh, just like nausea because I associated it with this like sinking. And I will just say this and then we can close this down, but there was some point when I went out to dinner with James Acaster. Like he'd come to a show that I did, and then we went to get a bite afterwards. So I was like, this is really nice, because that was so humiliating. And he was like, here's what went wrong for you. And I was like, thank you.

I felt like he was willing to acknowledge what had happened. It's not, I'm not acknowledging it. It's that I barely remember it, let alone Acaster giving you his points of view on where you went wrong. Who the fuck's, the fucker. dinner keep your mouth shut. It was from a place of kindness. Yeah no he's a good bloke. He hasn't bought dinner since off-men you started in 2019. Free desserts all around. So what did he say then? Well I've got no memory of that and apologies when you look at me you feel nauseous you may I reckon you'll get along with Lou. So did you consider not doing this? No please come on I sent in? I was like can someone help me get on parenting hell? Please? No. I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. He's hea. He's he he to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the th. He. He. He. He. He. He. He's. He's. He's. He's th. He's th. He's th. He's th. He's the. He's the. He's the. He's the. He's the. He's the. He's th. He's th. He's th. He's th. No, please. Come on. I sent in I was like, can someone help me get on parenting hell?

Please, no, no, no, no, no We've met. You guys are nice. I had a crash and burn. That's all. I don't think you did. But we're going to try so hard to not crash and burn this time. You might have felt like that, but when we're off air, I did on hypothetical, but I don't think that's for now. Even on this episode, what we've only been recording for about five minutes, I'd say it's been more entertaining and funnier than some guests a whole hour. You guys, you're so sweet. How many kids you got, Sarah? Let's get on to that. I have one son who is approaching his eighth birthday.

Right. How is he? How is he? He is medium at the moment. In what regard, medium? You know, they're really getting into that point when they're getting towards 7-8. We're like, those personalities are really starting to come out.

Yeah. And he is an eccentric. He's like a little professor. He's very into, and he goes to a state school, but it's a uniform-free state school, which British people have a real response to, but as an American, I didn't grow up with uniform, so it's all very sort of comfortable for me.

How do you don't have a uniform in America? No, and I have really mixed feelings that, well, actually, I say I have mixed feelings. I don't, I think like my friends whose kids go to regular state schools where they're in a uniform are like, oh, oh, look at this little like middle class setup where everyone's just in their regular clothes. And I'm like, you know, I think there's real positives to know uniforms and real positives to uniforms. Fine. Yeah. Normally if you're from like a bit of a poor area, it's like really highlights if you're different, do I mean? if you've not got the newest trainers or the best brand and stuff like that. And then that

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a sense of difference through clothing, it is still true that the class different stuff is so much more prevalent here than it is in the states, you know? But you know, I suppose if it's an imperfect solution, it's still one to have. But it's still, with uniforms, like, those kids at my school didn't have much money. th. th. th th. th th th that, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. th. thi. th. th. th. th the states, you know? But, you know, I suppose if it's an imperfect solution, it's still one to have. But it's still with uniforms, like, those kids at my school didn't have much money, none of us really did. It wasn't sort of a very rich area, but like, there were kids that had blazers on, but like that. There were kids that were theasers on, their sizes too big, that were, that were, that were, that were, th, th, th, th, th, th because they were too small they'll hand me down to stuff like that so it's still you can still see and there was a kid of my school who had tip-ex on the penis bit of his

trousers and it looked like semen and it was there every day because he only had one pair of trousers Josh I have no idea what semen you've seen more than you and I don't I th I th I th I th I th I th I th I th I th I th I th I th th th th they've they've they've th th th they've th th th the the the the theen theen theen theen theen theen theat theat's theat's the. they're tip- tip- tip-I tiped tiped tiped tiped tiped tiped tiped tiped tiped tiped tiped tiped tiped tiped tiped tiped tiped tiped tiped tiped tiped tip tip tip tip tip tip tip tip-I tip-I tip-I tip-I tip-augheanananed they're tb-s are tip-aughed they're tip-s are t't think I've ever seen any semen that looks like tip-ex. Oh, if you're at school and someone's got a white mark around their crotch, that's spunk, you just got to go spunk on that on you. It's like a crispy and very clearly so white, it got a wide mark around your penis area. Yeah, you just got to go for Spum. It's an open goal. Okay, fine. I support that.

Yeah. Well, the natural arc of conversation for me is always from Spunk into my son. And that's just the natural course that we should go. He loves suits. This is what I wanted to tel you about him. he only feels like himself himself himself himself himself himself himself himself himself himself himself himself himself himself himself himself himself himself himself himself himself himself himself himself himself himself himself himself himself himself himself himself himself himself himself himself himself himself. he he he he he th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi thi. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. But th. But th. But th. But th. But th. th. But th. But th. But, th. But, the. But, the. to to to to to to to to to to to to to theee. he only feels like himself if he wears little suits. With a tie? Not always but he will sometimes wear a tie. Like if it's a special occasion he likes to put a bow tie on. And he likes to wear a top hat. It's your son Tom Allen. Yeah. I kind of think he is Tom Alan. And funnally he met Tom Allen when he was a little baby, and I feel like some bit of the essence,

I should be so lucky, found its way into my little professor of a seven and a half year old. So how does it get into suits? Like, what's the kind of... This sort of legs in first and jacket on, isn't it? Well, you got jacket first. That's such an interesting question. How did he? Because I was looking through like old photos of him and when he was five, we were on some like family holiday when it was warm and I was like, oh right, he was still wearing like shorts and a t-shirt. Whereas now it would be like, mom, any chance of a linen suit?

Like, really, wow. So in summer he'd still wear, like, you, the smart shorts that Tom Allen wears? He would like to, that would be, because you know, like I'm not going to spend that much money on him. My husband really likes spending money on him and I hate spending money on him. If we spend that money on me, I will really enjoy it. But if we get him like a 10 pound pair of shorts or a 30 pound pair of shorts, he doesn't know the difference whereas I sort of do and I resent like any, if any of his stuff were to possibly require even so much as like a cold water wash that would annoy me. Also as well designer stuff, you see people buying their kids, like people you normally I sort of half judge, but then buy the kid like a can in a toucest coat that's like 600 pounds that will not fit him in a year and I don't care how much money I'd ever earn

there is no way enough if I'm getting my kid a designer coat they're gonna grow out of within a year it's insane. Also your income can be what your income is but it doesn't have to visually present in a certain way right so it's like I just don't like when anything says too much about you and tho. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. I I I I I. I. I. I. I. I. their. their. their. I'm. the to be. to be. to be. to be. I'm. to be. I'm. I'm. I'm. to be. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I's. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. I'm to. I'm to. I'm to, I just don't like when anything says too much about you and any of those labels, especially on a child, it's like, it's just like throwing the money away. But that is the most noteworthy thing about him, I would say at this stage. And does his personality fit the suit? So when he's wearing his suit, in his mind, is he a kind of English gentleman of a bygone era or city shredder? Great question, Josh.

And I think he is, but now obviously, do you find like just that all the parents you talk to, like, as the parent, you're simultaneously the one who knows the most, and then also you are straight up the person who knows the least about any possible answer you have surrounding your own child. Because there's all the shit that we just want to believe to be true. So on the one hand, I would really like it if my son grew up to be successful and make money. I mean we can say we want him to be happy but come on. Like really. But truthfully, as honest as I as I as I as I as I as I as I as I as I as I as I as I as I as I as I as I as I as I as I as I as I as I ask as I ask as I ask as I ask as I ask as I th as I th as a th as a thi as a the as a the as a thi. thi. the the the the the the the thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. th th thi. thi. th thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. to to toe. toe. toeee. toeeeananan. toean. toean. toeanan. toean. toean. toeeean. toeananananan I think I can be, I'm not getting a city trader vibe

from him. It's much more, I am from the Victorian period, like it really is more Tom Allen kind of, and he likes to feel fancy. I think he's maybe even said that sentence to me, like, because I can feel really guilty sometimes, because, like he likes sometimes to wear a top hat. And, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and th, and th, and th, and th, and th, and th, and th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, I, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not thi, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not th, I'm not th, I I'm not th, I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I, I th, I th, I think he's maybe even said that sentence to me like because I can feel really guilty sometimes because like he likes sometimes to wear a top hat and that pushes it for me in terms of how much eccentricity I can manage. You know? It's a lot of attention out in the shop so Lou doesn't like people looking or attention so if she goes out of kids in top hat she'd be like, oh God, people are looking now. That's exactly the whole thing. And like, I like attention, like, if I get the attention. But like, I don't want anyone else in my family getting it.

And it can be so, it just, it says so much. And it's like you get a lot of looks. And he's got this huge head of curls. So it's this huge head of curls. So it's this huge head of curls. And he's very into like period dress it, not period like Victorian era, but like before we started recording, we were talking about Josh's affection for the Beatles, which my husband has. He's passed that on to my son. So he will often be like, is this like a 1967 look? And I'm like, oh, oh. I know it's cute. But top of the morning- the morning the morning the morning the morning the morning the morning the morning to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to. 1967 is kind of cute, but top of the morning to you, top hat is like getting a little too much information and we want our children to express themselves. Yeah. But you're like, but not

at fucking my expense here, buddy. Not past point. There's a difference between wearing like, slightly off-center clothes, like, you know, a 60-suit or whatever, but if he's wandering around actually planning a character all the time, it's sort of like, where's the line between engaging with society and his classmates and everyone, and then also just performing at people, essentially, it's sort of a bit of a weird gray air, isn't it? Yes, and I think, you know, it's mostly the top hat doesn't come out, but we went to the London Bridge experience. Like, we were like trying to find a nice thing to do because it's half term, and we're not going away and so we felt like, let's do a nice thing.

Like, he wanted it the way you want to ask it, buddy? Yes, he does and what is really lovely is he's friends with the other like... But I don't know what I mean is are they just wearing tee shirt and trousers and do they go there's that guy in the top hat or does it like come up? the the the the the the the the.... the the. the the. the the. the the. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thee. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the way the way th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. the. the. to the. to the. the. the. they the. the. the way the. the. the. the. the. the, there's that guy in the top hat, or does it like come up? So let me be real clear about the top hat. The top hat appears twice a month. Okay, yeah, yeah, five. I'm giving it to you as an anecdote because I want to entertain the masses. But it's not a-

No, no, no, it's not the fixture. the group that my husband and I grew up with. But to your question, no. One of them is like a great dress. You know, he's just in like bright colors. The other couple are like very, very normal dressing, but all of them are like the nerdy boys who aren't into football. Yeah, yeah. Because what eight-year-old boys into football, it's like a cult-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s, the-s, th-s, th-s, th-s, th-s, th-s, th-s, th-s, th-s, th-s, th-s, th-s, th-s, th-s, th-s, th-s, th-s, th-s, th-s, th-s, th-s, th-s, th-s, th-s, th-s, th-s, th-s, th-s, th-s, th-s, th-s, th-s, th-s, th-s, th-s, th-s, we we're, we're, we're, th-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s are-s Ha-s Ha-s Ha-s Ha-sue-s Ha-sue-s Ha-sue-s Ha-sue-shoer-s. We're-s-s, yeah. Because eight-year-old boys into football, it's like a cult. It's the full kit, football at the weekends, football

in the weeks, and it's like it obsesses them. I was one of those kids growing up and you see him at the school gates. They're just, and if you're not into football, it's impenetrable for a guy who maybe would watch a US Super Bowl, maybe, but otherwise a sporting event was never on in our house. I have wound up married to someone who, I would say feels antagonized by sport. Like, my dad just didn't care. My husband feels it's like a personal attack on him. Whereas I kind of feel like I'm not into it,

and I really feel sad that I'm not into it because what I have gleaned from most of the world who loves sport is it gives you shape. That's what you want in your life. You want some shape, you want things to look forward to. You want like marks in the calendar. And you don't have that when you're not into sport.

So I do kind of wish my son was into it, but like, then you'll say like, why am I not into football? And I'm like, because dad and I don't care about it. But I don't think it's bad, I just don't care. My dad didn't like football at all. It's probably same way as your dad. He didn't get angry by it, but just wouldn't watch it at all. Was never on in the house. My mom never really likes football,

but us boys just got into football. We're obsessed by football. And then my mom used to watch like Soccer I am when we weren't even living there anymore, because it reminded her of one of the boys boys boys boys boys boys boys boys boys boys boys boys boys boys boys boys boys boys boys boys boys boys boys boys boys boys boys boys boys boys boys boys boys boys boys boys boys boys boys boys boys boys boys boys boys boys boys boys boys boys boys boys boys boys boys boys boys boys boys boys boys what you put on on a Saturday. So it's like, yeah, my dad was never into it, but we all properly got into football, but Southeast London is obsessed with football. I don't know, are you guys in London? Yes, we're in Northeast.

That's an interesting thing as well. It's like, the way that's like, and even in PE, they stopped doing rugby and cricket, because everyone will just start kicking it. So you have no interest in those other sport. It was just football and boxing. Those two of my main ones, but then I watch a bit of basketball and I'll watch like the Olympics and stuff like

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physical violence befall someone. And explain to me how this is entertainment. I don't understand. So I think it's entertainment. It's a working class sport because I think what it is, is it's like, if you try hard enough and you put as much effort in and you're brave, you can escape your situation. And it's the most sort of tangible way to get out of not having money. It's an escape from that background of no money and no opportunity and being able to watch someone go and do that is inspiring because she's like

oh they are not only are they taking a chance like all by starting a business they're like putting their like life on the line to create something which I find quite inspiring and it's a one-man band kind of thing. So I think that's what it is, but as well, I think, and this maybe it might be a bit too dark, maybe a bit too deep, maybe if you're open, I think people from certain backgrounds, that are maybe surrounded by,

maybe surrounded by, the th kind of low-income or working class backgrounds are surrounded by, you sort of watch it going, oh, at least it ain't me. And that's a relief. So in other words, you're not weird because you like it. I'm a middle-class bitch. No, no, I totally understand why people don't like it. But that's sort of what you think is what takes someone down the path of getting into it. And also it's kind of a thing where

like a lot of the people in it are working class from those backgrounds. Do you ever get any middle class boxers? Not really. It's all normally from tough backgrounds and then what happens is all their friends and family support them and by ticket so everyone's sort of a thousand.. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. their thi. thi. their their thi. their their thi. their their their their their their thi. their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. the. the. the. the. theateat. to. thea. thea. thea. thea. thea. thea. the. A. A. A. the. A. the buy tickets. So everyone sort of half knows a boxer, like my uncle was a boxer. Everyone's got someone, either a cousin or a friend or a friend or then you'd go and watch them fight and then it might be a friend of a friend and you'd go and watch them. So it's sort of like the same way as you know you might have friends that have written a play and you'll go and watch that play. Well it's like when those boxers become they're real folk, I mean it's a weird phrase, but their folk heroes of the place they're from, they really represent their community. Like Barry McGuigan when he was. Ricky Hatton.

Yeah, Ricky Hatton for Manchester. He was Manchester, but it was a small town, and it hired, I think it was like, he was going to Vegas to fight Floyd Mayweather. But it's a bit like what Oasis did for those kind of people. It's like, oh you can be this but be mega. Yeah. You know, I'm sure a lot of these boxers would quite like to start their own business and become super successful entrepreneurs, but that's not really going to happen because it's too much stuff going on, but if you're stood in a ring there's only one bloke in front of you, that that th. th. th. th. th. th. That is th. That is th. That is th. That is a th. That is a th. That's, th. That's, th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi, thi. thrownea'er's a lot, thi. thi. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. to, to, to, to, to me, to me, to me, to to mea. toa. toeean. toean. toean. toean. toea. toea. thea. much easier and tangible way to be a success. Which is why I think a lot of comedy is quite good for that because it don't matter where you're from, if you get laughs, you get laughs, if you don't, you don't,

yeah, whereas other stuff's harder to get in. And that one manned band quality up to it as well. Yeah, because you can't just imagine like, you know, I's easier to fight that bloke and keep eating people. I think sport is a weird thing and especially football as well that becomes quite triable and stuff but but if you're not into it you're not into it I think but then Tom Alan grew up in a very similar background and area as me his dad was a coach driver and all that you know his brother sounds like me, he's a lot of the dresses like me and walks and talks like me, but... but their, but the I've got my mate up in Yorkshire as well, his son, sounds a lot like your son. He wears a lot of flat caps and dresses in, oh yeah. And he wears like sort of old trials and stuff like that and old suit jackets,

and he keeps drawing pubs and creating little old stout beers and he's obsessed with it. And he's like been reading Tom Allen's book to him because again he's like from a like place in Yorkshire whereas everyone's like very like geysery and into sport and stuff like that so I think you do get those sort of like eccentric from all walks of life. Yeah it's really interesting isn't it? Like I remember when my son was born you know like a teeny tiny baby and like one morning and we're both sort of like looking at him on the changing table and whatever and I remember my husband being like who is he though? Yeah. Like who is he and now he's like I just did categories like I'm like that's who he is? Who he is? I don't know if you guys have had this with your kids but I already feel like? I already feel like and I felt this way about him for a while, like it's just clear, it is already

clear to me who the 20-year-old will be. Yes. Well, write it in an envelope, seal it. I know. And see what happens. I open it on his 18th birthday. What do you think he's going to be? Here's what I predicted.

You've disappointed me. But I just I'd be surprised if at 18 he was like a lad. I mean maybe who knows? So you and your husband are very sort of creative and like centric people really aren't you? If you compare yourself to most people in the country so there'll be a bit of that that's what you know you guys made. Yeah, I guess I really like if there is a wish I have for my son and I don't know what your thoughts are on this yourselves for your children but like if I have a wish for my child these are my rules for him right in terms of because it'll be like mama am I allowed to do this can I do this I'm gonna go to this will be my hobby this has been my job this will be my hobby this will be my job and my things and my thing up, like so no outer space exploration. Fair enough. Where you drawing the line? I would almost say not allowed to be a pilot. I would almost say even though like plane crashes are done, but I'm like nothing.

Bungy jumper? No. You don't leave the earth. Scaffolder? No. Nothing high up. Nothing high up. deep down, we're not going down, and also third rule, no agent. You're not allowed to have a job that requires you to have an agent. That's the other thing. So no

showbiz. I just feel like, and I've found it very interesting with very successful people because you have had one experience of what pursuing a passion is about, right? So like you can't shake out of your body the idea that like, you can have a dream and you can chase that dream and that can happen. And then your child is growing up being like, I can chase a dream and it can happen. And to be like, maybe not the way that daddy did it. And I just feel like my wish for him is that he has a nine to five job, like a regular fucking job.

You know, and my husband will be like, I think I could get us, like he knows Divina McCall's hairdresser. And so my husband was like, we could get tickets to go see Mask Singer. And I was like, over my dead fucking body is that child allowed in a studio. Like that he's gonna get ideas in his head and the next thing I know, he's gonna be thinking. And then we're gonna be supporting him until he's 40 because I just, it's not even about. It's just like. Yeah, but does he like the Mars Singer? Loves it. Just take him, he talked him. Take him to the Mars Singer. You guys, I just don't want him to feel that these jobs are viable.

I just don't want him. Take him to when Alex Brooker's being revealed and you'll go, look, you can't do this unless you've only got one leg. And by the way, guess who he's reading for Alex Brooker so can you imagine? I love the way we're just referring to is Alex Brooker now not being for as well it's so obvious. What a show what a format? Oh so why do you think that everyone so sure is Alex Broker? You tell me Josh I'm not answering that question you tell me. But he's denied it but he's under contract to deny it. He legally cannot confirm it. What I love is like when it just everyone knows it someone and we all have to sort of like do this little show.

What a fantastic piece of TV. Do you know Joel? Joel could sort you up for tickets. She's already got an in with McCall's air dresser. She's fine for tickets. You've not got the wheel. Can I just say, as an aside, if they're they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they the wheel ticket. Can I just say if they do sort ticket, can I just say as an aside, if they do sort tickets, you are exactly the person I end up getting caught with in the green room

where I'm like, I go for a drink after the last leg and I go, oh so how come you're here? And they go, I know Adam's hairdresser and I think, I don't think you should be here mate. That's too big a jump for you to be in the green room talking to me at this moment. You're so starry, Josh. I'm just trying to read from my book to one of the producers actually if you give me a minute. Look, Rob, come on. I know DeVina McCull's hair. I know DeVena. I know their their their their their to their. I know. I know to to to their to their. I know to to to to their. I know to to to to to to to their. to to to to to to to to to to be to to to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to their. I their. their. Roo. their. their. their. their. their their the They do make you leave though before the unveiling. That's the problem with the Marsden. Do they? Yeah. Because everyone would know it was Alex Brooker then, wouldn't they? They'd all all tell everyone. They'd all the surprise. Yeah. I presume they'd all had to be Mdia Md. their their their the the the the the the the the the their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their. Iailleailleailleaideaideaideaide aide. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a. A. A. empty. Just to Jonathan Ross. Just to Jennifer Ross and Mo Gilligan, Divina McCormor and Aurora. Sometimes Peter Crouch. But Sarah, going back to that, so obviously he's up really into it and would have to see it. You would really not want him to be in that sort of world, even though it feels like

that's the kind of thing. He's going to end up doing something doing hat twice a month. I know. So what is it though? What is it that worries you about that? Is it that there's not financial security? Is it your own things that have happened to you? I mean I'm trying to think about how to talk about this. And well, I mean, you know, maybe it can feel depressing. Maybe it's fine to feel depressing. It's fine. This, after, a podcast is feeling depressing. So, my grandmother's dying words to me. Okay, here we go. Maybe not this depressive.

She was 99, and I didn't like her. I was so happy when my grandmother died. I was so happy. their 80s or 90s and they're upset I'm like pull it the fuck together come their time has come like just move on now anyway don't start in the eulogy though do you? We didn't have a eulogy she was so old and she was so not beloved Rob it was like there was no eulogy it was like get her in the ground call it a day yeah you don't even have to bury it they're so old and they're they they they they they they they they they they they they're so they're so they're so they're so they're so they're so old they're so old they're so old they're so old they're so old they're so old they're so old they're so old they're so old they're they they they're so old they're so old they're so old they're they're they're so old they're so old they're so old they're so old they're so old they're so old they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they're so they're so they're so they're so they're so they're so they're so they're so to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to they're so they're so to to they're so they're so they're so they like something like, you just, just kind of try different things. And I was like, that's true. Like in other words, her assessment of my life at the age of 40, I'm now 44, was like that I had sort of spent from 20 to 40.

Trying to find something that works for you. Yeah, and that is brutal. And I'm not sure it's wrong. Like I started stand up at 35. Like I'd always wanted, it was like the thing I'd wanted to do when I was 22. Yeah. And I tried it and I wasn't good and it would give me such horrible anxiety. And then when I, when I was 35, I'd moved here and my husband was very encouraging and then like something really clicked at 35. But I just feel like, and I don't know if this is true for you guys or not, but I, you know, comedians really, what do we do? We are drawn to each other, I think, right? So I know so many stand-ups where all of their closest friends are also stand-ups.

And I've always felt like I've had a foot in both worlds. So I have some close friends who are stand-ups and I'm with stand-ups all the time because that's who you see at your gigs. But my best friends have always been teachers. And I really know a lot of people who to to maybe do something creative and they called it at a certain age they were like, this is not going to happen. And they got, quote unquote, a real job. And then I know people who have like succeeded fabulously in their creative profession.

And I know people who are sort of like chugging along without kind of having had a break yet and wondering what it's gonna look like, am I gonna be 50 and still like doing? I just think I've seen all the different ways of doing it and I think it's a really, really hard thing to want to do a creative job. And I think when it comes from something that's just within you, that's one thing. But when it comes from like, well, you saw your parents do it, so maybe it's a viable option, that's like a slightly different.

I think anything with freelance, whether it is creative or even just if you're a plummet, the pressure's on, you don't never know what's going to happen, there's no security really of a job. But you feel like if you and your husband are doing this where you're jumping between different creative projects, your son will think, oh that's a viable option, but you don't think it's an enjoyable option. But there's another side of it, which is you can see the brutal experience of it because you've lived it and obviously everything feels easier from the outside and I used to when I was really stressed about my job and stuff I'd always think maybe I'll just fuck off and I'll open a shop in a

village or something it would always be I'll open a shop that's what I'd always think yeah and then I speak to people I know that own shops and they're fucking stressed man. They're always going on about the rent or how Christmas wasn't as good as last time or another shops move to the area that sells the same stuff. Oh I know people that work in big companies and they're worried about redundancies. Redundancies and so like we can see all this fucking difficulty in our job. The other one I'd always think about and this is really prevalent to you because of what your husband does is I'd often think maybe I'll just get a job doing drive time on Magic FM and I'd really enjoy that.

And then you speak to people that work at commercial radio stations and they're like a new controlers come in, what if I lose my job? Oh my god, I'm only on a year-to-year contract. And you know what I will say about that as well, like because that is what he did for a long time before a pivot. You know like his stand-ups we can always find a place to peddle our wares. Totally you're not reliant on other people. And here's this grim sort of positive that I'm going to take from this because I think what I'm saying is like I don't know I just I think I'm really childlike in as much as I just want to believe that your job can bring you joy. Yeah, I really want to think that that's true. You've got to give up on

that, Sarah. You've got to give up on that. I do though, don't I? There's not a magic job out there that everyone loves every second. Look at footballer, everyone wants to be a footballer. Marcus Rashford's on the pissing bell-in. You. You. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. Do. Do. Do. Do. Do. Do. Do. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. I's, to, to, th. I's, th. I's, th. I's, thi. I's, thi. I's, th. I's, th. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I. I's. I. I. I. I's. I. I. I's. I's. I's. I. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's th. th. thi. thi. thi. th. th. t. t. toge. I'm t. I'm t. I'm t. I'm th. th. thford's on the pissing Belfast. He's supposed to be trading, do you know what I mean? You're a footballer and a new manager comes in and suddenly you're inexplicably dropped from the first team. Well you get an injury? Yeah, you get an injury and suddenly you're a Brian Clough who was the best striker in Britain and he fucked his knee up at 28 and it was all all the th he won a lot of European cups and alcoholic but you know there's wins and losses but yeah. I remember very clearly right before the pandemic hit. So my son at that point was like two or three something like that and I'm never around for bedtimes because I would always be out.

And your friend Ramesh Ring and Nathan, it was when he was doing that column in the back of the guardian. He'd written something and I had the jobs. Yeah. He needs another 500 words to bang out. Have a thousand, mate. I didn't want to say it, but as the close friend, you can say it. But you can make fun, but he wrote this thing th, th, tha, thin, thin, thin, but, but, but, thin, but, thin, but, thin, but, thin, thin, thin, but, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, th. th. thin, thi, to to to to to th. to, and he's, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I. to. to. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the, the, the, the, the, the, the, th. th. th. thin, thin, to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to, to, th. th. th. this thing that really, fucking wedged in there. It's something about this idea that like, by the time your child reaches the age of 10, you will have spent 90% of the time that you will spend with them across their lifetime. Unless you're doing weakest, Link.

Was he speaking as Romesh or as a normal parent? No, he's sure, I've seen that. Sorry. No, he's sure, I've seen that. It almost seems like someone gave me these facts just to give you guys the opportunity to roast your friend. So when they're 10, you've spent 90% of the time, that's fucking weird and scary. Exactly. I mean, I've got a lot of these very depressing facts I can pull out of my back pocket. That's amazing.

And again, I'm not sure that's exactly what it was, but it was in that family of whatever. And I was doing tour support. I was in the backseat. I was like, I'm gonna cry. I'm gonna, like, I was like, I'm gonna start crying that's so sad. Oh, you're on yourrying to suppress tears in the backseat, having read this fact. Then the pandemic hit and I was like around for every fucking bedtime. And I wanted to put a bullet through my brain.

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Yeah. And that's what I would want to say to anyone. It's like, everyone is unhappy with what they've been given. Everyone's got the out. their. their. their. their. I. I. th. th. thi. thi. I. I. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thin. thin. thin. thin. thin. thin. thin. thin. thin. thin. thin. thin. thin. thin. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. theeeeeean. But, thi. But, thi. But, thi. But, thi. And thi. And thi. And thi freedom in that. So for your son, he might as well be unhappy being creative, that unhappy doing finance. I'm not joking. If everyone's got the up. I feel that this conversation has made me understand that he will be unsatisfied no matter what he does.

Exactly. And I need to lean into that. I just need to lean into it. But as a parent, you want them to have them their, have friends, earn money, express themselves, be create, it ain't gonna happen. And also, more importantly, it's not your responsibility. They're gonna be adults and it's on them. There's nothing you can do to do that. And as they grow up and they're having arguments at school, this is what their

pain is a bit. You can't go in and have that argument with a school kid. thap. th. th. It. It. It. It. I. It. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I's, their, their, their, th. I's, th. I's, thape, thape, than, tho, thi. It's, thi. I's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it. It. It. It's, it. It's, it. It's. It's. It's. It's, it's. It's. It's, it's, it's, their. It's not. It's not. It's not. It's not. their. th. th. th. than. than. than. than. than. than. than. thanan. their. their their their thananananan. You've just got to help them through it and then trust that they go and do it because it's their life that they're leading and that's the hardest bit. So it's like, there's that life, the Buddhist thing, life is duke, a life is suffering. But it's been accepting that and realizing you're not going to some happiness podcasts and we have an obsession you guys with finding meaning in suffering and sometimes you have to accept that it is just the suffering. That is how I am heading into 2024, okay? It is meaningless suffering and we make peace with it. And no one else is that happy. No.

But there'll be moments of happiness, moments of being quite content, moments of being grief-stricken. Do you know, I was thinking this about my neck? I know, I was thinking this neck. So, yeah. Let's talk about your neck for a minute. Sarah was just about to make a big point I thought about all the podcast. No, no, I want to hear about this neck. Let's Sarah come back round to this after his neck. Oh, come on. Listen, you just turned 40 or you're 40 now, right Josh? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I lean in and Rob. off, but I haven't been able to shift it for six months.

But it's got incrementally better. Look at that, right? I couldn't do that. But still, one of the bits is lot. He just looked up and down and to the side. He's showing us his neck mobility. Wow, show us again. Look at that big boy! Look at that big boy! Oh, you're going to be playing wine the bobbing up all day. And throw a ceiling to the floor, window to the door.

But that's a problem, right? Okay, so when you've got to look judgmental at someone, you struggle. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But anyway, it's almost better. And I found myself walking on top of that. I've got on top of my drinking, I've got on top of this, as soon as I've got my neck done, then I can be happy. And I thought, that is insanity, right there. And I just caught myself, and I was like, you can't be waiting for this moment when everything falls into place, because there's always going to be something that's an issue. and I was just looking at people people people people people people people people people people people people people people th people th people th people th people th people th people th, all th, all th, all th, all th, all th, th, I th, I thi, I'm thi, I've th. I've th. I've th. I've th. I've thi, I've their, I've th. I've that's, I've that's, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, th. I, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm, th. I'm, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. that, that, that, th. th. that, th. th. going to be something that's an issue and I was just looking at people going, all these people walking around me here in Victoria Park, which is a nice

place, a lot of them should be happy, they're all going to have a relative that's ill or a worry about financial security or a lump on their testicle they're worried about or whatever. Weird option. Number three, I panicked. Just could have just said a lump. I could have just said. The comic mind wants specificity and wants to paint a picture for his audience. That's genuinely true. That's why I said the testicle. Listen, this is the point that we are in. I mean, this is a very personal question for both of you. I haven't got a lump on my testicle. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. to. to lumped. to lumped. to lumped. to lumped. to lumped. to lumped. to lumped. to lumped. to lumped. to. to. to. to. to. to to to the the the the to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the the the the comic. the the the the the the the the the the comic. the the the the the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the comic. the. the comic. the the the the comic. the the the the the the the the the the the te. the the the the teicic. toooome. tooome. toe. I. I. I. I the comic. the testicle? Not checked for a couple of weeks, could check now, but shall I just say, assume it's fine? Get back in there.

Are you gentlemen and your wives, are you done having kids? Do you think? Yes. Yeah. I think this thing happens to people when it's like they know they're done. And it's like, here's the truth guys, guys.

Here's the truth, guys. The good shit now is over. Because there are all these questions that we get to have in our 20s, and maybe your 30s, right? Will I have a kid? Will I have another kid? Who's my partner gonna be? What professional high am I?

We know the answers to the questions now. And now the shit that you wonder about is like, when will my parents die? Like that's, I'm not kidding, like that is what steps in as the replacement question. And now, as middle-aged people, I know you're not quite there yet, Rob. But it's like now your attempt at happiness isn't like imagining the next baby or whatever fuck. It's like you look for a nice tree. You're like, I'm walking, you know what? That's a nice tree.

Put it on the ground. I'm going to be present in observing the beauty in the tree. And that's all we have from now till death. Don't you think it? Now it has to be about the small moments. And sometimes when people keep having kids and keep having kids. I'm like, you you, you, you, you, you, you, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm tho, I'm tho, I'm tho, I tho, I, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, thi, thi, thi, tho, tho, tho, thoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo. like, oh, you can't now just look at a tree. Like, it's time for you. You had three, you're done.

Look at a nice tree. But they can't. They need to keep pushing the narrative forward. So they're like, another kid. It's like, settle in. Yeah, settle in. Yeah. Yeah, the. the. the. th. th. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. t. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. t. Yeah. t. t. Yeah. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. tod. tod. tod. tod. tod. tod. tod. tod. tod. tod. tod. tod. tod. tod. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. tree. tree. tree. tree. tree. tree. tree. tod. tr. tr. tr. tr. tr. tr. tr. tr. tr. tree. tree. tree. tree. tree. tree great. We haven't talked about your podcast. They like to watch. We got to plug the pod. You've got to plug the pod.

We need to plug. Can we plug this pod hard? Plug the pod? So, basically, my husband and I were both in similar fields. I'm just going to say on this, because you've been being good is kind of the plug in itself, do you know what I mean? Let me tell you something, the fact that you understand that, genuinely I think a lot people don't understand that thing and that concept would have made you very good on drive-time radio.

We talk about this all the time, like when you are someone who has guests on, it's not about going, Rob Beckett's new project. Smart TV on Skymax. Yeah, let them shine. Have the PR shut up. Who's going you haven't mentioned that shut up We'll do it in the intro. Let the star shine But because you asked my husband and I had always wanted to do something together. Yeah, but he is very obsessed with high quality formats. So anytime I'd be be like, well, we could do a pie, and you'd be like, no, what is it about? What is it about? What are we talking about?

You can't just do, said with respect for everyone's choices, you can't just do a podcast about a marriage, because there's not going to be enough, like authentically interesting, self-generating material there. So we were always trying to to to to to to figure to figure to figure to figure to figure to figure to figure to figure to figure to to figure to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to. And I was going to do a tour and in the run-up to that tour, without exaggeration, we got as obsessed with how we were going to coordinate watching succession together, which we were very into at the time, as to managing like the child care arrangements. And I was like, oh, what if it's, because, because, because, that, that, that, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, the, th, the, th, the, th, th, the, th, th, th, th, th. th. thi, thi, thi, tho, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, and, and, and, and, and, and, the, and, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, without, without, without, the, the, the, without, the, without, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, th. And, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, too. We's, too. We's, too. We's, too. We's, too. We's, without, without, without, without, without, without, without's, because that's a thing with couples. I don't know if you do this with your wives, but we are a couple who watches together. Yeah.

It's a way of connecting. And so we wound up doing this sort of podcast about succession that went well enough. And that has now transformed into, it's about the hunt for excellent television. So it's for you if you love television, but you're like so over-faced and you're like, I am a good, smart person with perfect taste. What is worth my time? And we do all the work for you.

Hold the front page, Rob and Rubbish versus Smart TV, the last leg. Do an episode of the last leg. These are the only programs that we ever talk about. Do you talk about the masked singer? You know what, we would maybe talk about the masked singer in, um, like we talked about the traders. Yeah. And we would talk about it, like I think if we're talking about,

we try to do as much listener in our, in a a a a, know we we're trying to get like a conversation going what are people watching what I've got a 10 year old what should I be watching with my 10 year this kind of stuff yeah can I give you a suggestion of something to watch have you seen your 10 year old you can watch the traders go on Robbilly have you have you heard of kinn the kin' their the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their the their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their tree. tree. te. te. te. their their their their their their their their their their their the BBC it's an eye player now. Series one's already out, series two starting next week. It's really good actors in it. I'm Little Finger from Game of Thrones is in it. I forget what his name is. I know who you mean, that guy.

Yes, but it's brilliant and that's quite good. But it's quite fast-paced, we'd talk, we'd get an insider take on something to do with television, then Rob would recommend Kin and then the next week we'd watch Kin and be like, I want Rob Beckett to like me, but... And it's called They Like to Watch. It's called They Like to Watch. So think about it like this. Television is the Trojan Horse and inside the horse is a marriage. Do you understand? Yeah, marital dynamics tucked into, please tell me what is worth my time watching on television. Yes, because time is, it is a premium if you don't want a dud to recommendation. Oh my God.

We've cleared the diary to start a series. You've been described as a sparky double act by the Financial Times. We are a sparky double act. She brings your format and I bring my good personality. You know how like if you're going on a holiday? You're one of the five hottest new podcasting duos. Dude, we got silver at the British Podcast Awards. Oh, congratulations. We thought we should have got gold.

Carry on, carry on. I just found myself. I like stepped out of myself and heard myself explaining to you why we would have gotten gold. You guys, you need to rain. Oh, no, tell us, because we'd like to get gold as well. What you gotta do to get gold? You guys, we can't get gold because none of us here are doing anything important. Right, okay, so it's got there. Actually, I think we are.

So you're gonna lose to the important podcast. Oh, like, if it's about a big issue. enough being funny. Not for a claim. Enough for me you guys. I'm speaking to you both now, not your listeners, okay, I'm speaking to you and whoever listeners want to listen in. You're going on a holiday. You're going to go somewhere lovely, your successful people, you're going somewhere great. And you're thinking, we're going to hire a babysitter this one night, but we want to go to the perfect restaurant in this little European Amalfi Coast whatever. But where is exactly their place? Sure, Yelp is going to tell me this.

Lonely Planet is going to, but where would actually be good? Then you want the travel website that would tell you where you want to go on the Amalfi coast for dinner, the one night that you're going to be that website, but as a podcast for television. Right, there we go. Tony Romers, that's where I'd go. That's why I was speaking to Josh. As soon as you said I'm Alfie Coast, I was like, it's got poolier written all over it. The other side. I just get some tenders in Orlando. The last question, we always ask this question. Oh, it's good because you're a sparkky sp sp sp sp sp sp sp sp sp sp. the the the the the the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to.'re a Sparky Double Act, so this is a good. Sparky Double Act. Yeah, and your husband, Jeff Lloyd, a DJ, Jeff Lloyd, now a podcaster.

What is the one thing he does parenting wise? We go, oh my God, he's amazing. I'm so lucky to have a child with him. And then what's the one thing he do? I hate saying this because it's so cheesy, but like he loves being with our son so much. Like nothing else in his life brings him the amount of joy. And I actually think that's kind of rare for a parent. Like my friends were arranging like a girl's dinner. And everyone's like, make the dinner early so I can get out of bedtime.

And my husband is that person who's like, get out of bedtime? That's my favorite part of the day. Now, some of this is because of his underlying depression. But also, it's just like, a lovely gift he gives our son. And then the thing that he does that we both are really, really, really, really, really, really different about money. Like, I hate being generous. It makes me feel sick. Spending money and being generous. I'm like, the tightest bitch you've ever met.

Yeah, you should hang out with Josh. Oh, is Josh like that as well? No, not at all! You both seem like you'd be generous people, but not me. I had my husband, he said, convince me. Like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, to me generous people, but not me. I had my husband, he said, convince me. Like I have said before we were going to visit some friends and I was like, they had a huge professional success and they were engaged to be married. I was like, we need to go over with a bottle of champagne, right?

He's like, yeah, yeah. So we're walking. We passed a liquor score. I didn't know how much champagne. . . I had no idea because I'm always like buying Proseco. I come out, I said to my husband, I can't do it. I can't physically spend 60 pounds on a bottle of wine. I will throw up, so you go do it to be nice because I know what I should do, but I can't do it.

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Sarah, thank you so much. Good to love with the podcast. Are you touring or not doing any more stand up? Or is it just podcasting up, you're focusing on the moment? when this will come out, but I will be up in Edinburgh this summer at 445 every day, and I've got a podcast that drops every Tuesday, and those are her big projects and products. And why would they follow you on social media? This is the worst handle of all time and let's just skate on past that back. What is it Adolf Hitler? Yeah, it's Adolf Hitler 2,470 at

It's Sarah, spelled Sarah, Sarah, Baron 1 million everywhere. Pardon? At Sarah Barron, 1 million. Oh, not everywhere as well. No, no, no, I'm just saying that's right. You see how I always fuck up my handle? This is the only reason my followers are so low. So Sarah Barron.

No H. No H on the Sarah, one million at the end. How many R's in Barron? Two R-B-A-R and a million is that written as one million or is it digits of one zero-zero-zer. It's digits. I'm such a nice lady. It'sron, no H, two R's, and the number one and six zeros. You're a P.R. Mark in machine. It's so bad. Oh, please come find me, everyone I need. Did you start on Sarah Barron one, and that was taken? Then you did two.

Then you do three. I don't know. I don't even know. And my email, the I gave you my email, you'd be like, you need to talk to somebody, like you need to have a word. I've checked you follow on Instagram. I didn't know I wasn't following you. I'm following Sarah Barron, 99,999, so I'm working my way there. Cereereere. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I'm, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to ta, you, you ta, ta, ta, to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to sorry we made you feel sick on hypothetical. And this was, yeah, it was the corrective emotional experience. Do you feel like you've recovered now from, have we done a bit of therapy and put that to bed? You had a good ti, and put that? you had a to, the, why would have a bad gig in front of Joshua and put that and that? to that? It's, th.... th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th th the. the. the. th th th th th the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the theeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee I can't listen to Banana Rama because they spoke about that and wouldn't lie to you for ages so I know how you feel. But we've corrected it. Exactly. Cheers, Sarah, Sarah, I'll see you guys around. Thank you so much for having me. Cheers, bye.

Sarah Barron. I felt, I felt bad as I felt. to their show, isn't it? You should put your guests at ease and then James Acaster got all the love for talking to her about it and you just moseyed off not caring. Oh God, oh well. Pretty worried about your neck, aren't you? Yeah. Can't sort that out so? I sort of the true. throwing out. Yeah. I can't sort of thrown of things came up and then before I knew I clicked on an article with an interview with her, I mean, it's literally finish an interview with her and I'm reading an interview with her. What am I doing with my life? Let's come back on Tuesday.

Right, see on Tuesday.