Parenting Hell with Rob Beckett and Josh Widdicombe - S8 EP14: Tom Aspinall

Episode Date: February 23, 2024

Joining us this episode to discuss the highs and lows of parenting (and life) is the current interim UFC Heavyweight Champion - Tom Aspinall. Tom has three kids, two sons and a daughter, and one of his twin boys has autism and additional needs and we discuss his career, raising twins and life as a professioanl fighter and parent. Enjoy! Parenting Hell is a Spotify Podcast, available everywhere every Tuesday and Friday. Please leave a rating and review you filthy street dogs... xx If you want to get in touch with the show here's how: EMAIL: [e-mail] INSTAGRAM: @parentinghell MAILING LIST: parentinghellpodcast.mailchimpsites.com  A 'Keep It Light Media' Production  Sales, advertising, and general enquiries: [e-mail] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hello, I'm Rob Beckett. And I'm Josh Winnockham. Welcome to Parenting Hell, the show in which Josh and I discuss what it's really like to be a parent, which I would say can be a little tricky. So, to make ourselves and hopefully you feel better about the trials and tribulations of modern-day parenting, each week we're chatting to a famous parent about how they're coping. Or hopefully how they're they're tha be hearing from you the listener with your tips, advice and of course, tales of parenting woe. Because let's be honest, there are plenty of times when none of us know what we're doing.

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but it's still a long way off, it's starting, but it does exist. Yeah, it's where it should be. Exactly, because if it was ready now, then I'd be bored of it and it'll be crap by November. But when you know people are organizing their life and you've got a show. But I mean I love writing the show. And so you're starting just before Christmas in November? Yes.

Well because I was going to start in January but I don't want to be hanging over me. Yeah. Just sort of bloody sod it, just go. I always used to be out in the water when your feet just don't touch the bottom. Yeah. You're pushing yourself slightly more. Yeah. No, I love it. That is, you've often been seen as the comedy David Bowie. Do you know what? I just feel like this show is going to be where I really stretched my legs artistically? Oh, I'm glad. Well, if I was very thrilled when we announced it on here. Rob. to. to. to. to. to. the to. to. to. to. the to. the to. to. to. the to. to. to. the to. to be. to be. to be. to be. to be. to be. to be. to be. to be. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. the the to be. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I the. I the. I th. I th. I th. I the. I'm.. When are you doing yours then? Wow, that's under wraps sign up to the bloody mailing list. It's a bit of an underground thing. A bit of a word of mouth. What do you mean doing my tour? I might not be doing a tour. Yeah, well, you'll be the first to hear about it on here. That's absolutely the first. Tom Aspinall today.

Tom Aspinall, yes, this is excited having Tom Aspinall on. He's, I'm a big UFC fan and he's a big scary UFC fight, but he's actually quite a normal, nice bloke. But yeah, he was just like sat like on the corner of like a old chair having a canned a cairn. the sort of heavyweight champion of the world, Mike Tyson, a tiger on a chain, five Bentley vibe. You know what I mean? But I don't think he ever will get like that because he's such a, he's quite a normal guy. He's got three kids which you'll hear about, one of them is well good on the Rubik's Cube. Oh man, that is just my absolute, that is just so good hearing about that. I was fascinated by the Rubik's Cube.

Yeah, so it's a good, it's a very good interview. So if you're not a UFC fan or a fighting fan, there's loads in there because he's very much, I wouldn't say it was overly UFC heavy. No, I enjoyed it. And I'm not a UFC nut. Officiardo, aficionado, everyone just uses that to go, well I'm not, obviously I'm not a UFC offician.

But no one goes, you know what I am? A UFC officiardo. It only gets used to tell some you don't know about something. Yeah. That sounds all the weekend the other weekend with Daniel Kitsam as MC him. Oh yeah. She's always quite intimidating because he's the best. He's the best. But he sort of does all art, he's stuff and then. Yeah, he hasn't got any kids so we're not interested. Yeah, really I'm trying to get Tim Kian because he's like Godparents like six or seven kids. Yeah, but I think he's keen. What I said? I said? I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I'm the th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm but I think he's keen. I said what's your alternative

Tim you just go on like XFM or off menu and they talk to you about Alan Partridge again. Come on here. So if you want Tim Key on the show, message him and annoy him at gigs online. But no he was a we were chatting about the menu up the creek and it said house fries or Greek house fries. And the Greek house fide has, it said fettich. the the the the the th. th. th. th. th. X feta th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. th. th. th. th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. to to to thi. to to to to to thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi up the creek and it said house fries or Greek house fries and the Greek house fries it said fetishese crumbled on top and I was like you don't, well that I said you can only have it crumbled. There's no other way to have it really is it is but even if you try and slice it you're just you're on route to crumble town like that and he was taking the piss out of me for doing material I'm not doing material just chatting about the menu and I went and that would work anyway and he did it in the gig I was gonna do it I'll show

you I can make that work and then he did it in before he brought me on the bastard because only had about nine minutes anyway that was fun fun oh i'm glad you're enjoying being back gigging. Do you find... Yeah, I'm a gigaficionado actually. You are a gigaficionado. Do you find, because I'm back gigging, not that I'm getting ready for anything. But do you find... Wait, if you were going to get ready for a tour, when would a tour be probably in sort of the ball-ups in spring 2045. Oh, you are getting ready early though, wouldn't you? Um, well, I'm not really gigging that much.

I'm gigging once or twice a week. That's a lot, I'd say, you're really... I don't like the pressure if it's not ready. It'll never be ready in your head. You're all, all right. All I need is one more week before Edinburgh. Yeah, so that's good though, that's very efficient. I'm just, well, no, it's more, I'm trying to enjoy pottering.

Do you know what I mean? Yes, without the big today. Yeah, do you find though, from a parenting perspective, yeah. It's weird going out in the evening again so much. And I wonder with your kids are a bit older, but... That's what I'm struggling with is then the early mornings when I've got back at 11. Well, you're struggling with the early mornings. I struggle with the you know, wait for the gaiting. No, the missing the bath time guilts. Oh fuck that. I'm out for the way, I'd tell you what, I'd rather bath two kids and stand up there with nothing in front of 100 people.

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I know, yeah, I don't know they were, apart from live. They're just going me and you all. Yeah, yeah, exactly. There'd be a few people there, didn't know they were just gone for local comedy night. Divorce tour. Yeah, well, let's not get into that. Half and half again, I'll call it. Do you know the problem's gonna be, Rob? We've got.

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be, I can't confront this. I think you're the dr a the dr dr dr dr dr dr I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, you're the kind, you're the kind, you're the kind, I'll, you're the kind, I, I, you're, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, the kind, the kind, the kind, the kind, the kind, the kind, the kind, the kind, the kind of, the kind of, the kind, the kind, the kind... the kind kind the kind, the kind. the kind, the kind, the kind, the kind, the kind, the kind, the kind don't think you will, I think you're happily married and you love each other and I don't think you will break up, but I think you might be the trag it on to unicouple. Rob, I had a nightmare with one of my friends. I told you this. She said, I was talking to her, and she was talking about her parents. Like I know her well. But it was probably a couple of years into knowing her. I was like, oh, so when did your parents split up? Was it when you're a kid? She said, no, they split up. It's quite weird actually, like a couple of months after I went to uni. And I went, oh, right, were they, oh, so they were those parents that kind of stayed together for the kids and then split up because you left home. And she went, what? Oh God.

Oh God, I suppose yeah, maybe that is what happened. Just going back to every family holiday for 15 years. Oh yeah, because Dad went, he went, skateboarded in for five days on the holiday. Oh no, oh God. That is all. I had a nightmare at Softplay, right? So I was in Softplay.

And I love a bit of Softplay because they're old enough to go in themselves now. So you book them in, headphones in and like on TikTok or whatever or watching YouTube but just in my coffee in the corner get a couple of bottles of water. The kids have come down they go on too hot, breathing my face down a bottle, breathing my face down a bottle and it's actually quite a good way to tie so it's actually quite a good way to tie them out. I'm walking and it's quite a stress when you're first getting because you want to try and get a table in the corner you don't have to share a table and especially TV tax do a bit of telly you want to hide away in the corner because you don't really yeah I've sat with someone and chatting for an hour like small talk because that's

quite hard work and not even just like you know even if it was someone of what you're I just want to an hour of myself I walk in the to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the to the the the the the the to the the the to the to their I I'm their I'm to to to to their I'm to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the their I'm their I'm their one one one I'm their one one I'm their one one I'm their one one I'm the their one one I'm the their I'm they. I'm just just just just I'm just just just I'm they as I'm walking in a geyser just slaps me on the shoulder it goes Rob you're all right mate all right but as if it's like you yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah anyway so I got oh I'm not and I give a funny look because I sort of I'm a to know I'm a I'm not like a to theyre you yeah right so I'm like oh oh I'm like like a bit of sound of it oh yeah all right and I saw and he's hit me quite hard as well so like bloody the old mate like anyway so I go in and the kids like immediately it's almost like when you get soft play their bodies explode and all the clothes and shoes fly off them and you're picking up jumpers and coats and they're picking all all they so I'm picking all that up like that and he pops up like, I'm gonna, hello there mate. You're right? I'm like, oh yeah, he's the same keys. Yeah, you're right, mate, he goes,

so I just wanted to say I didn't wanna start you, like I'm just some random. And I'm stood there going, I've got nothing. I've got no idea who he is. But I can't go, he was chatting to me was like it would be me saying to you sorry who are you? And you'd go I'm Josh Widdickham we do the yeah but that's the energy I'm getting anyway so like I go oh I'm like yeah oh yeah oh yeah no worries yeah nice to see yeah and I'm playing along anyway and I go go and go go and go go and go go and get a coffee boom boom he's there again bye the man the way the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the they I I the the they. I the the the the the they. I was just like, oh, just, I've got to get him broken up with the missus. I was like, oh, okay.

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He went, well, you know, I used to work for myself now. I'm a, um, and I, um, Steve Jones's firm. But he said Steve Jones's firm, like, I know Steve Jones, and I'm like, I don't even know that name, but he said it like, I know, I know that, I'm genuinely, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I used, to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to work, to work, to work, to work, to work, to work, I used to work, I used to work, I used to work, I used to work, I used, I used, I used to work, I used, I used, I used, I used, I used, I used, I used, I used, I used, I used, I used, I used, I used, I used, I used, I used, I used, I used, I used, I used, I used, I used, I used, I used, I used, I used, to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to work, to to to to to to to work, to to to to to to work, to to to to chatting to me like, like, this is man. It's like you talking to me about like Tom Crane or Rose and I'm like, fucking L. And then I go and I go and I go, oh so yeah, sorry to that mate, chat, chat, chat, and I go back and sit down. And I'm texting me brother because I went and I'm racking my brains. And then eventually I worked and I worked out, toto my brother it was like and it took me 30

minutes but then I worked out he was a family friend that was four years older that went to the same school but I used to hang out with on the street and I knew straight away it was and as soon as I clocked it's to I I didn't see him and I won't say did you go to go go go go you did you did was like, I can't go as far as he's concerned. It would be insane. It's me coming up. It's me at the end of this conversation going, you're Josh Widdocker, ain't you?

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seven and I got four-year-old twins. Oh my god. Let me tell you that's a different experience let me tell you. so some people to the old thoo that the to the tho. th. tho tho tho tho tho the the the the the their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their to their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their. their their. their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their te. te. te. te. So. te. te. te. te. to. to. te. to. their their their their the the their their their their their theins. Oh my God. Let me tell you, that's a different experience, let me tell you. Some people, when I say I've got twins, they're like, oh, I'd love twins. I'm like, I don't know if you would, you know. They're the hard work. They're pretty hard work. So, like, is it, because that's the thing, I the thing, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I th... th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th., I've got two and it's all but to what is it just it's just two of them them, isn't it? It's literally just double the the asshole. Yeah I mean it's definitely getting easier now they're at school and stuff. Yeah, but hey honestly I say it all was just in fight off like more constantly it was just a blur of crying, being up all night, just all the stressful stuff that goes with a baby

times two. How do you get them to sleep at the same time? With great difficulty. When you had your first kids, so what stage of your career was you at them? Because what's weird of fighters is you either at home all the time, 24 hours a day, or you're not there at all for like three or four months. So what stage was it with the twins and your eldest? So it's a little bit difficult because when I had my first, sorry, even when I had my twins, my three kids, I was still like working like a regular job. Right. And the jobs that I worked, they were always like to fund kind of the dream of being a full-time MMA fighter and making money from that.

So I wouldn't say I got a lot of hate because I didn't, but a few people were like, right, you're going to have to stop this MMA stuff now and get an actual job. Oh really? You wow. Got three children and you know you need to start kind of looking after your family a little bit rather than just living on this dream that you're going to make money out of MMA and they were wrong. But that feels good now did it? Yeah it feels pretty good now. I kind of had to make it work at that point. I think yeah if I didn't have the kids I think I probably would have to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to th more more more more more more more more more more more more more more more more more more more more more more to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the th. to to to to to to to to to to to their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their thooooooooooooooooooooooooo. tooo. too. too. too. too. too. too. their. their. their. to make it work at that point. I think, yeah. If I didn't have the kids, I think I probably would have lent more into like getting an old job and trying to make money and buy a house and do all the rest of it like.

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Yeah, because you got a really close relationship with your dad because I think a friend of a friend gave him my number to get you on some like podcast and raise your profile and things like that. This was before you won the title as well. But he was so like my son, he was like, it was like, it was almost like talking to some sort of cult leader. You know when someone's trying to sell you like something like and get you involved in a skate? I was like, yeah, I know Tom, he's brilliant in the, but he's so, his passion and his belief, and his belief, and his belief, and his, and his, and his, and his, and his, and his, and his, and to, and to, and to, and to, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, you think you get yourself confidence from? Oh absolutely like I always say that he like kind of believed in me before I believed in myself kind of thing so yeah I think it was you know I think a lot of people like you know if you start talking

early about right this is what I'm going to go and be a world champion for example people are just a bit like well maybe you should be a bit more realistic about it and maybe you should say your size a little bit lower and you should get a normal job first and then see how it goes like my dad was never like that he was like listen if you want to to be a world champion let's go and do it like let's start making plans on that and I'm extremely lucky that I've got him in my life. Extreme. Like if it weren't for my dad, I wouldn't, I would be nowhere close to where I am right now. And how do your kids fit into your training and life now? How does it work in terms of like if you're at home, are you doing lots of parenting and then you're away for periods? It's like yeah, as a professional fight, like as a professional fight we're not that busy really

like I'm training kind of four hours a day five hours a day it's not that much and then when you're in camp though do you take yourself away completely are you not there at all or you still at home no no I'm still there I'm still really obviously I do always to do like bits of sparring stuff but predominantly I train in England so I do bits where I go to Holland to spa I've been to a few other places to spa but mainly I'm at home and just be yeah when I'm not at the gym I'm gasped you know what I mean I don't I do the school run most days I still like for example my kids have started training in martial arts now so I take them to the gym for their training now and yeah I just I just live it normally. I don't there's no special treatment for me if anything I feel like I've got it easier

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No. Wow. Well, like properly mixed up, not just like one or a red one of the corners. I'm like that. You know, just pick it up and just solve it, they're quick. Oh wow. And is there the money, the money, is the money, is the money, is the money, is the money, is the money, is that, that, that, that, that, that, that? I don't actually know that is something I should be looking into really. I don't know. I'm not sure. I think the YouTube channels and stuff that they have, I think they're quite big. So obviously there is money to have been off YouTube. I think it I don't think there's like a professional gaming fit.

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I couldn't do one if I had all day. Absolutely no chance. If someone, someone like, if someone like, if someone said right, you've to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to that, that, that, to that, to to to to to to to to to to to to that's that's, that's that's that's that's that's that's that's a that's a that's a that's a that's a that's, I's that's that's that's, I's to be, I's to be, I's to be, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I to be, I to me, I to me, I th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. tho. tho. tho. tho. too. too. to. to. thoooooooooooooooo. th. th. th. thried to show me plenty of time, is someone like, if someone said, right, you've got a day to do that, I'll give you a million quid, go for it. I wouldn't do it. There's no shots on, no idea. And you say, is it one of your other sons has got autism as well? Yeah, yeah, yeah, one of my twins. the way you know stuff you do as a family or schooling and stuff like that is it is it challenging that regard or is it just fits in with everyone pretty well? He's actually doing really good like he started at a mainstream school and stuff obviously he's only just started so because we're only like February now so he's already been like five six months probably

and he's doing good like some things are tricky like it gets overwhelmed in and crowds and stuff like that and some things definitely you have to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the to the the the the the the the they. they. they. It's just he. he. he. It's just he. he. he. he. he. he. they. they. they. they. just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just the they. they. they. they. they. they. they. th. It's just just th. It's just try. It's just try. It's just try. It's just try. It's just try. It's try. It's try. It's try. It's try. It's he. It's he. It's in crowds and stuff like that and some things definitely you have to. I was taking to one of Josh's gigs then you'll be fine. Loads of space you can stretch. It's too easy. It's a tricky thing to navigate through. It's massive, like it's such a massive spectrum and there's so many different kind of it presents itself in so many different ways. Yeah. Just learning, still learning about it obviously he's only four years old, he's got a whole life ahead of him so I'm sure it's something that it's something that I'm trying to learn more about every day. Yeah of course. And what made you kind of think that he might have autism and like go and get him tested I suppose is it? I don't know how it works. Yeah yeah yeah so they were like born just before the pandemic so as

kind of they start to hit like milestones or stuff like oh they should be like walking at this age they should be doing this at this age start speaking blah blah we just started noticing like when he was around two-ish I guess that he wasn't really that he wasn't really saying much, he wasn't really interacting much. And then we thought oh maybe it's just because the lockdowns and stuff like his whole life, he's been like stuck inside and then we're googling it as you do and then it's like oh twins progress a lot slower than because the shared attention and all that kind of stuff. To be honest me, I was kind of in denial with it for quite quite some time.

I was like, an excuses for him. Oh, the lockdowns are happening. He's never really been out of the house and been around people. So, you know, he's obviously going to be slower, blah, blah. And funny enough, we watched a paddy McGinnis has three autistic children. He was talking a lot about autism and the way it kind of presents itself, and stuff like that. And there was a lot of things that we kind of picked up on

and was like, oh well, our kid does this, and this. And anyway, funny enough, I was on a show with Paddy McGuinness like a few, literally a few weeks after, like just coincide, I was on a show with him. And I was chatting to him about it and he was like, mate, you need to try and get a diagnosis as quick as possible because every autistic person is different. And once they can kind of see what needs your kid has got they can kind of personalize it for the needs.

Yes. Yeah. So I was like right okay what do I do with that then? Because we'd already tried to get him dying dogs on the NHS and luckily I'm in a financial spot where I could pay for private and yeah. How did you give the details took him to this private place and she basically said straight away yep he's got autism diagnosed him and started giving us stuff to do to kind of help him with his with his life really moving forward Oh brilliant and when she diagnosed him was that a relief or were you like scared of what would happen or how did that feel?

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Yeah. It was nice. It was nice to kind of you know have a little bit direction of something to work to work towards rather than just guessing. Yeah. That's great. So you had three kids under the age of three at the start of lockdown? Yes, mate. Yes, that was not. Now once you go and fight people and don't care. That's hard and anything. That wasn't great.

That was definitely one. How was it? Have you sort of blocked that out of your mind? Is there things that come back to you, the things you ended up? Sometimes I do stuff like, oh God, we did that in lockdown when it was bleak. You know what I mean? It was impossible. That's been impossible.

You're like, thinking back now, it was like, really part time when it's been so horrible. It was just, yeah. Especially for you as well, you'll have the pressure of like you'd never know when fighting is coming back. UFC actually came back pretty quick, but not loads of events like normal and stuff like that and that's where you earn your money. So that's a lot, you're under a lot of pressure. Oh, you're really tough because at the time I just got in the UFC, but I hadn't fought yet. Like I don't make my debut on was UFC London, Leon Edwards versus Tyron

Woodley. And that was the first event, at least in the other May world, that got cancelled because of COVID. It was like, yeah. So I did a full training camp and then the week before it got cancelled. I was like, oh my God, when are we going to fight? What's going on? Can't train? Can't go to the gym. And that would have have have have the week the week the week the week the week th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th the th th the the th th th th th. th. th. th. th. thi thi that th. that the the that. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their they. th. th. th. th. th. the. the. to. tod. today. today. today. to. today. today. today was. today was today. today. th. train, can't go to the gym. And that would have been a big payday for you as well, like compared to what you've been paid previously. It was the biggest money that I've ever got paid in my life at the time. And then that's just gone in a instant and you got three kids at home. You couldn't, you couldn't furlough it. I was trying to furlough it. I was. I was trying, I was trying to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the to to to to th. I was trying, I was trying, I was trying, I was trying, I was trying, I was trying, I was trying, I was trying, I was to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to have to to have to have to to to to to the biggest, I was the biggest, I was the biggest, I was the biggest, I was the biggest, I was the biggest, I was the the the the the the the biggest, I was the the the the biggest, I was tho, I was throw the the throw. I was the the throw. I was the the. I was the. I was thi. I was thi. I was thi. I was th for some furlough. It definitely wasn't the best. It was a crazy couple of years that was. But it's all since the pandemic though, your career's gone like stratospheric. And I think for the people that aren't fully into UFC,

and I don't know if Joshua and I know this, but the main event of that fight in New York, in Miochicic and John Jones got cancelled and then Tom got drafted him with two weeks notice which is unheard of and almost impossible in fight sports to come in and do a job and then he beat the guy very convincingly, very quickly, we were a big to the to and became the champion. So like that turnaround of couldn't make your debut, losing all that money, three kids under three, and in the space of three years, you've, you're at the top th.......... Now, you're, to to to to to to to to to to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to be, to be, to me, to me, too, too, to me, to me, to me, to me, to me, to me, to me, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to me, to me, to, to me, to me, to me, the to, to, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, to me. And, their, toe.a. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. three kids under three, and in the space of three years, you're at the top. Now, how does that not mess of your mind? Because, like you say, you weren't earning that much money, money was tight, people are telling you to give it up. How do you not become sort of this big, arrogant I am, giving it the large one?

Because that's what happened to Rob. Yeah, that's happened to me and I'm trying to bring myself back from it. When he got the radio two gig, he hasn't got it down. To be honest, I don't know. I feel like money and all that stuff, like fame and stuff, like that kind of shows you true cause, I think. If you're an idiot, you're definitely going to be more of idiot when you've got paid money. Yeah. The same kind of the other way like I don't know I just live the sit honestly I've basically lived the same as I do. I mean my life's a lot better now because I'm financially secure than it then it will go. Got a long the last time. But you're still doing this in your box room in your house in the is rounder. Exactly.

Exactly. Exactly. There's no, I'm not living some like mad lifestyle, do you know what I mean? I just live exactly same. The sport, my sport in particular brings you back down to earth pretty quick. Just for example, speaking to you here now, an hour or so ago, I was getting squashed by a massive Russian guy. So is Josh Pee pays for that in solo?

Yeah, I have changed, I have changed actually. Monty's helped me in that sense. Yeah, so my support is, uh, it will humble you. Do you know what I mean? If you're gonna start running around and acting like, like, if I'm living this like lavish lifestyle, I'm cruising about on yachts and drinking all the time, like I'm going to turn up to the gym on Monday and get absolutely pummeled or somebody who's not doing that. So I don't want that's far from. Do you kids watch your fights? Do they watch it? than boxing in some regards with some of the you know some of the cuts and the ground and pound and stuff like that. Do the kids watch here? Yeah, they do, but they're not bothered.

Like I think they just, they're just, they're just, they're used to it, I guess. I guess, like, for them, as long as they can remember like, that on the TV and that's the way that's the way it is you know what I mean it's nothing I think now my oldest one especially because his mates at school they think I'm like they they think I'm good like pretty cool do you know what I mean yeah I mean the you are the hardest man well in the world arguably there's a couple you could argue against but it's not like in boxing like you know people to have a Josher and Fury but if you had a street fight with them you're wiping the floor with them so when it comes to

the who's got the artist dad in the school you're you've absolutely not even close he's at that age now where like you know what else is like the older kids in the school obviously when you're like younger the to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their they. their the they. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the their the the the the the the school. Obviously when you're like younger in school you kind of look up to the older kids and you think they're cool and then the older kids they think like I'm cool. Yeah I think he he loves it now why he's loving it. Yeah and do you get any fans at the pickup like when you go to pick up a kid's try to talk to you or like. Yeah yeah they do. They do. I don't mind it like it. Have you you you you you you you you you you the the the the the the the the the th you the th you th you th you th you th you th you th you th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi thi to thi thi thi. thi. thi. th. th. thi. th. their their their their their their their their their their their their their th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. I th. I th. I thi. I thi. thi. thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi they do, they do. I don't mind it. Like, it's pretty cool. I like it. Have you ever been in a situation where I thou, you've thought I could, I need to stand up for my kid here with another parent? He's been slagging off my son's Rubik's Cube and I need to... I need to... No, I've been alright so far with that to be honest. I've been all right in that regard. that in that in that that thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi th thi thi thi th thi thi thi thi thi thi thi to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the. I to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th th. I th. I need the. I need the. I need the. I need the. I need the. I need theeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee. I need theeee. I need the. I need the. I pretty peaceful so far, but it's going to come one day. If I was teaching your kid, I'd be giving him very high marks. There's no way I'd be taking you on at parents' evening. Well, you're very sort of relaxed and friendly guy, you know, some fighters just, you know, their whole persona is this aggressive, like sort of monster.

So when I always wanted to sort of ask this like when you're in the octagon and it's like getting like you're really up against it and you know this guy you're fighting just won't go down I mean you've nearly near enough knocked everyone out you've thought so far so you've actually got to this point yet but when you're really under the kosh are you sort of just very a focused and a professional going I need to do to do this, I need to do that. He keeps going with that jab, so I've got to move that. Do at any point you engage this, like, next level of, I've got to do this for my kids? Because I find, even if someone's mean to my kids, I get to an extra level of anger and frustration

that you just want to rip some of my kids level of combat that that sort of anger doesn't help? You need control. You need control. Do you know when I fight is I like to be like ice cold emotionally. That's the only way I can try it. It's like I'm detached emotionally from everything else apart from what I'm doing right there. So I think emotions are bad thing to be honest. I think it just works against you because there's definitely been times times times the the the the the there there there there there there there there there there there there there there there there there there there there there there there there there there's there's definitely there's there's there's there's there's there's there's definitely there's there's there's definitely there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's definitely there's definitely there's definitely there's definitely there's definitely there's definitely there's definitely there's definitely there's definitely there's definitely there's definitely there's definitely there's definitely there's definitely there's definitely there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there doing right there. So I think emotions a bad thing to be honest. I think it just works against you because there's definitely been times in fights when I've been emotional and I've thought of stuff like that. It's just not it's not a place for emotion in the octa to be

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Yeah, I don't know. I can't find a dummy. Do you know where the dummies are? You've got to get your head in the game to sit and laugh at Adam and Alex's jokes being prepared all week. Yeah. It depends. It depends why I'm on a time difference. You know, I'm like the last fight was in New York, so we're like six, seven hours different on time. But usually like the morning of, like the morning will extra sensitive on fight day, extra sensitive.

And if someone like he say, it rings me up and start asking where the dummy is or where's the remote or so you know if someone starts telling me they love me too much or whatever I'll start crying I don't really. I like I like to be emotionally detached from everything so it's just like right good look. Yep, thank you. Okay I'll speak to you after you after it. So how do to to to to to to be to be to be emotionally to be emotionally to be emotionally to be emotionally emotionally to be emotionally emotionally emotionally to be emotionally to be emotionally to be emotionally to be to be emotionally to be to be emotionally to be to be to to to to to to to to to be emotionally to to be emotionally. I the to be emotionally. to be emotionally. to be emotionally to be emotionally. to be emotionally. to be emotionally. to be emotionally. to be emotionally. to be emotionally. to be emotionally. to be emotionally. to be emotionally. to be emotionally. to be emotionally. to be emotionally. to be emotionally. to be emotionally. to be emotionally. to be emotionally. to be emotionally. to be emotionally. to be emotionally. to be emotionally. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the luck, yeah, thank you. Okay, I'll speak to you after it, bye. That's the way. So how do you become emotionally detached? You sort of just block out that that world exists, that Tom Aspinall, the family man, the husband at this point doesn't exist and it is just Tom the fighter?

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that noise. And I missed him coming out purposely. Because we have the TV's you see in the change room. Yeah. And that the TV's showing what's actually going on at the event. I knew there was this big song of dance going on that Donald Trump's arriving and I purposely turned it off like that has to be left yes side and and oh my god there's 25,000 people here to see what happens and there's millions watching around the world like that's got to be left somewhere else mentally yeah yeah so is that why you ignore you ignore my messages Tom because you're focusing yeah because because you don't want to be to be to be to be to be to be to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the to to to the the to the to the to the the to the the to the to be the the the to be their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their. their their their their their their their their their their their their their their. their. their. their. their. their. their. I I I their. I. I their. I their. I. I'm they. I'm just. I'm just. I'm just. I'm just. I'm just. I'm just. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. it. So because you don't want to be overwhelmed by star, he, Star State, again, perfect. Cool, just I don't remember that. Did you hear the cheers when Rob entered the arena? Did you hear that? I thought I seen a couple of tumboes go fast.

Yeah, because I suppose you don't want to be distracted like because it was when I was in there watching the fire and Donald Trump come out with Kid Rock to American badass and it was just so overwhelmingly mad and crazy I was like what is it's like what is going on in the crowd go mad but you can't if you've got to be lasered in you can't have any distractions like that you know you've got to to just be focused on what you're doing you've got to get something done you got to get your job done, you have to detach yourself from it so you can focus or otherwise you're too, there's too much going on in your head. Yeah, exactly. And for me, like the phone goes off, nothing else, like I'm not speaking to anybody

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Right everyone's into it mate from like brother cousins kids everybody kids, everybody, everybody. So it's always like a hot topic, do you know what I mean? Yeah, of course, I suppose that if there's been a fight on that night, you're naturally gonna be talking about the other fire. There's no, there's no off moments of fighting, do you know what I mean? Even like recently, it was at my granddad's funeral talking about fighting, you know what I mean? It's, he's constantly, it's just embedded in the family. And do you think you could train your son and be in the corner as he fights? How does that? What's the way? No, no, no, no, no. I've been absolutely no chance. So how do you think your dad can do it thi? I ask him all the ti. thr, th th th th th th th to, to, to, to, thin, to to to, to, to, to to, to, to to, to, thin, to, to, to, to, to, thin, to th to th thin, to, thin, thin, to to to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their. I just their. I just their. I just their. I just their. I just their. I just their. I just their. I just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just. I just just. I just. I just. I just. I just just. I just. I just just just. I just. I just just. I just just. I just just just. I just just. I just just just. I just just. I just. I just. their their not th. th. th. th. th. their their th. I just th. I just their their their their their of grappling where there's obviously the rule set's limited. Like you can't be in bloody choking each other when you're like seven years old like, but even

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absolutely bombarded here with like questions, pictures all that like how for me to relax So sometimes when I go into a public place I'm like kind of trying to gauge Are these UFC fans or like how much? How much do I need to have my guard up here before someone you know to me? That's a way I feel because I'm still really new to all this stuff and also? And also what's weird is there people that are obsessed with you and you are god and UFC's f f f f f f f f f f f f f f f f f f f f f f f f f f f f f f f f f f f f f f f f f f f f f f f that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's th i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i th i th i th i'm th i th i'm th i'm th i'm th i'm the th i'm still the the try try try tho they they try tho tho tho th i'm tho th i'm th i'm th i'm th i'm th i thi t all this stuff. And also what's weird is there's people that are obsessed of you and you are God and UFC's their thing and there'll be people like my you know my cousin that doesn't know anything about it wouldn't know who you are so it's like it's either not much or they're obsessed of you and you are the best you know. It is very strange because I've had a couple of people cry when they meet me which is very odd. Yes it's odd. It's a very weird experience and then I've literally had someone else being like stood next to him being like who is

that I've no idea of it. So I'm not gonna start explaining who I am but anyway right to the Rubik's Cube room, when I into a Rubik's Cube room of hundreds of people yeah I'm absolutely safe. No one's got any idea I am. So yeah. You wear your belt, don't you? You're walking with your belt going, come on guys. Belt and hot pants, just so they know. I ate the eight ounce gloves on. And so, is there a chance he'll go internationally and do stuff? I don't know, to be honest, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know. I don't know how it works, to be honest, but it's still pretty new to it.

It's only done a few conversations so far. He's got one coming up actually, so we'll see, I guess, I don't know. So you can relax at the Rubix events then. I'm chill th, I've th, I've th, I've th, I've th, I've th, I've th, I've th, I've th, I've th, I've th, I've th, I've th, I'm thu, I'm thu, I'm tho, I'm tho, I'm tho, I'm tho, I'm tho, I'm tho, I'm tho, I'm tho, I'm tho, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I've tho, I'm, I've tho, I've tho, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've th. th. th. thi, I've thi, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm tho, I'm tho, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, tho. It's toge. tho. tho. thoan, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm? You can chill out. I'm chilling at the Rubik's events, yeah. No. I mean, I've absolutely got no issue with someone coming up and having a picture and having a shot at all. I'm not saying that, but I'm saying when it's loads at the same time, it does overwhelm me. I'm lying to say otherwise because as you said like a few years ago, no one had any idea of us. Like nobody. Yeah, and like you know like say if I go into a bar the whole thing and bar comes over and wants to like grab me spitting my ear talking to me in a loud room oh god yeah only our coat top idiot screaming at you talking about when they used to fight me and it's most 99.5% of it is really really positive

and I really appreciate it but when it's multiple people at the same time it does get a bit overwhelming at times. And final question on the Rubik's. Have you passed on about competing that you have to your son? No, he's not even bothered me. Is there like overlaps of skill, mental skills that you can pass on about competing that you have to your son? No he's not even bothered me he's not even bothered about me it's just like I'm trying to do any advice you're just like well you don't know anything about Rubikov so wait he's a he's unreal he's had to

say some videos over it's ridiculous it's ridiculous oh if you got a video we could put in our social media media. That'd be great. We could show everyone. Yeah, I'll send you, I'll send you one over. Brilliant. And maybe it's too young to ask this, but you know that thing that they say about twins having a telepathy and knowing things about each other? Have you seen any, do you know what that that that that that that that that that that th th th th th their their their their they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they're they're they they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they'll they'll they'll they'll they'll they'll they'll they'll they'll they'll. I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I they they they they they're th. th. th. I th. I'll see. I'll see see. I'll see. I'll see. I'll see. I'll see. te. I'll see see see. tell. tell. I'll see see see. tell. tell. I'll s. I'll s. I'll s. I'll seen, I think I've not seen any of it. You know what, I did used to get, which you did used to freak me out when they were babies. Like if one of them got hiccups, the other one would get hiccups straight away, it'd be well weird. Really? It'd be very odd and stuff like that, and stuffthe same time, stuff like that, like that, that would be weird. But since they're being really small, I've not really seen much of it to be honest, but now that you ask, like, that did remind me that that did use to happen

a lot, is like, one and they'd to cough, and before they were like old enough to realize, oh I can copy each other. Like, I was they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're th. I'd th. I'd th. I'd th. I'd th and I'd th and I'd thi. I'd thi. I'd thi. I'd thi. I'd thirty, I'd thirty. I'd thirty. I'd thi. I'd that's thin, I'd thin, I'd thin, I'd thin, I'd thin, I'd really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really. I'd to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be th. I'd th. I'd th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. I'd than. I'd than. than. than't than. theree an theree an the an thean. thin. thean. thin. the an to to thin. I've like the other one would start coughing and stuff like that, I'll hiccup in it, it'd be weird. Nice, mad. I didn't know that happened. Yeah, they did that. Do you know about that twin telepathy? And then like, before you know it, they'll be on the other side of the world and they'll be, you know, whatever. Are you coughing as well? Yeah, yeah. It was lockdown to be fair, it was COVID, so it might be no.

Are they in the same room? What, sleeping in the same room? Yeah. Yeah, they are. Yeah. And is that tough then? Or is that all right? Well, to be honest, they're still a, sometimes they still wake up at nights and stuff. the night was all one of them came out of bed and I'm like oh right you going back put it put him back in bed and then he like starts crying start waking the

other one up stuff like that yeah that's a killer oh shut up just shut up you know what I mean like I bet you take that Rubit's Cube who couple you older brother to tell me we've asked you the one thing that you're what you married is it wife or partner? Yeah, I've got wife, yeah. Wife, your wife, what's the one thing your wife does, parenting wise when you go, you're unbelievable. I'm so lucky to have kids with you. And then what's the one thing she does that drives you a bit mad? And if you mention it on here andthere Tom that that must be a bit annoying. There's some points like because she she like breastfed all three of our kids even the twins. Wow and I just can't believe that that is possible. You're you suggesting she was lying? She doing two at once there like that? Yeah yeah. Wow.

Wow. For like for ages as well though not like a couple of days I was talking like to you know I don't know like that I can't tell you months but like at least six months do you know to me yeah and like that is some mental strength just to be able to do that in my yeah yeah yeah because they wake up all the time like Day and night they're just like two kids are just like attached to you. It's wild. So yeah that's definitely something that I was like wow this is something that I could definitely couldn't do. And as far as on the other hand, I don't know like we always always so the way that we worked it is she fed the kids. I always love this bit when everyone runs through the ones they can I say this in public. How annoyed do I want to make her? She fed the kids through the night right? Yeah. And then she would always have a lie and like in the mornings get up at like nine-ish-ten-ish

each like. Yeah. And that was great. Like at the time, awesome. Like fair play. Now she still does that. Even though she's not feeding him at night anymore. So now I'm a bit like, well I'm up here from seven and you're still in bed at night on a weekend. I'm like, she should be both of us up, you know what? She's repaying me, so I'm gonna accept it. I'm gonna accept it. I'm not. She's still in bed. She's repaid me, so I've got to upset it. I've got to accept it. I'm not the bestfeeding at any point or fair play. She's still in credit after all that breastfeeding and the early and late night. Tom, it's actually been amazing. Thanks so much so I know a busy man.

Absolutely joy. Good luck with the next fight. I'll be thanks for being on, thanks for being on mate. I never realized how interested we were in Rubik's Cubes. I'll say you're gonna be more interested when you see the video. It's incredible. I can't wait. Can't wait. Cheers Tom. Cheers mate. Cheers. Bye. C. Tom Aspinal. What a lovely bloke. Oh, he's lovely guy and he's always so good at UFC or MMA. He's unbelievable. I'm gonna order a Rubik's cube Rob. Go and watch some Tom Aspinal highlights. He is an absolute fucking killer, but he's so composed and talented as mixed martial arts. He's not just an animal bruiser. He knows exactly what. No, he's not. It's a lovely bloke. No, but I'm saying that but when he fights, he don't just don't, he's just so massive and art. He's six foot four, absolutely beast. The rubix the rubix. He's th. He's th. He's six th. He's six six six six six six six six six six six six six six six six six six six six six six six six six six six six six six six six six six six six six six six six six six six six six six six six six six six six six six six six six six six six six six six six six six six six six six six six six six six six six six six six six six six f. He's six six six six six six six six six six six six six six six six six six six six six six six six six six six six six six six six six six six six six six six six six six six six six six six six six six six six. He's six. He's six. He's six. He's six. He's six. He's six. He's six. He's six. He's six. He's six. He's six. He's six. He's six. He's. He's. He's. He's. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. th. th. th. th. th. th. bloke. You've got to go and do something. Yeah, I've got to go. See you'll out, mate.

Bye. Bye. Bye.