Parenting Hell with Rob Beckett and Josh Widdicombe - S8 EP22: Simon Mayo

Episode Date: March 22, 2024

Joining us this episode to discuss the highs and lows of parenting (and life) is the brilliant DJ, presenter and author - Simon Mayo. You can listen to Simon's film podcast with Mark Kermode 'Take' here; https://listen.sonymusic-podcasts.link/Hr_IGJsI?at=1010l396Y Parenting Hell is a Spotify Podcast, available everywhere every Tuesday and Friday. Please leave a rating and review you filthy street dogs... xx If you want to get in touch with the show here's how: EMAIL: [e-mail] INSTAGRAM: @parentinghell MAILING LIST: parentinghellpodcast.mailchimpsites.com  A 'Keep It Light Media' Production  Sales, advertising, and general enquiries: [e-mail] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hello, I'm Rob Beckett. And I'm Josh Winnockham. Welcome to Parenting Hell, the show in which Josh and I discuss what it's really like to be a parent, which I would say can be a little tricky. So, to make ourselves and hopefully you feel better about the trials and tribulations of modern-day parenting, each week we're chatting to a famous parent about how they're coping. Or hopefully how they're they're tha be hearing from you the listener with your tips, advice and of course, tales of parenting woe. Because let's be honest, there are plenty of times when none of us know what we're doing.

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Can you say Josh Whitticum? Josh Whidicum. Josh Whiddicum. Josh Whiddigum. Josh Whiddigum. Oh, there we go. That was a video. He was on a swing throughout as well. So he was quite timing it. Yeah. Very nice.

Hi, Rob and Josh. This is my best friend Jen and her three-year-old son Charlie. She was too embarrassed to someone in in case Rob takes the piss out of her so I've sneakably done it for her going hard Rob. We would argue that we are your biggest fans. You do make us laugh so much and we listen religiously. We're coming to see you next year Rob and cannot wait. Thanks for being the best Emma from Sunn. Emma from Sunn. go on tour at some point. But Rob is on tour. He is on tour. Where can I get to your mailing list? Good question. Josh Whitakom.com?

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If they want to come and see me live, they can come and see me live. Tell you what, I don't mind AI if they start buying tickets. Exactly. Bums on seats are bums on seats. And surely it's the biggest vote of confidence if AI, which can work out to a very high level, is interested in seeing you, that's a real big vote of confidence for your comedy. Exactly, I think we just seem to accept the modern world and if I'm selling tickets to people, get AI listeners. Exactly, Rob. Get everyone on. Exactly. If you're listening and your

AI, good on you. I've got a small business shout out here to Android 314 who has been listening from the start and is setting up his new business which is government coup. Where he's getting a few of his gang together to take down the humanoids. Oh, talking about gigging, right? I know we have not done much parenting stuff as of late. I had to do the Royal Albert Hall, I didn't have to do it, but I was doing the Royal Albert Hall. It's a great gig. That's exciting. Teenage Cancer Trust, but it is 5,000 people, huge stage, Roger Daultry is there, the best line up in comedy, Kevin

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Also, they're mainly there for Kevin. Well, they're all not only there for Kevin to Kevin, it's his. No one's there for and friends. No one's there, I'm gonna buy, I hate Kevin Bridges, but I love and I don't like Kevin Bridges fans and Kevin's absolutely amazing. It's brilliant hosts and really funny. I went on and I just was all over the place but I had that and I, the existential, oh God. Maybe you just can't do this. Yeah. Maybe now's the time you can't do this, you're useless and all that and all that and my head completely went, died on my ass and then I was all like stress coming off and I did, can you see that and my head completely went, died on my ass and then I was all like stress

coming off and I'd can you see it on my own I got like a little like a cabbie thing like that. Is that from Kevin Bridges? No no no so I had a scabbed so. So I had a scabb like that right or two weeks ago after playing football on a Tuesday and it all scabbed up and it was a st was sort of stressed and sort of moving a bit quick. I brought my arm around and I had a jacket on and there was a corner of a door, handle, metal, went directly into the scab and it felt all warm and wet. I pulled my jacket off, it gone straight into that scab. As I pulled my jacket off my arm was pissing out blood and then the scab fell out my sleeve like a spider. Oh my, and I was like, oh my, so then it all come open again and I was like, how was that? And then like, all the agents come it was like, you're

okay Rob, I'd just come off and started stabbing my arm. Oh my word. And it was all and then so I was, my head was completely gone. And normally that's fine because you go and do another low key gig a few days later. Were you next night, was this the next night, Royal Abel? The next night. Oh no. Anyway, so what I did was I went, I tell you what I'll do is, rather than try to pick and choose, I'll just pick a couple of subjects that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's, that's, thukuke, the subjects, th and thi, thi, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, thi, thi, their, was, were their, was, was, were, were their, were their, were their, were their, were their, were their, were, were, were, were, were, were, were, were, were, were, were, were, were, were, were, were............ We, were, was, were.......... We, was, was, was, was.. We, was. We. We. We. We. We. We. We. We. We. We. We. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the it and try and work it out on stage, but going full of beans and confident and just go, this is my angle. So I've got loads of stuff about moving to the countryside and it's a bit more nuanced and a quite interesting view on it, I think.

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basically. Yeah, yeah. Anyway, I did it and I got for it, it went all right and I was a bit buzzing, I was like, it was solid, right? And before and I was questioning whether I should ever do comedy again. All right, and that's going to do Royal Albert Hall. And also you're doing it is to teenage cancer so then you're going, I've got to make to make to make to make to make to make to make to make to make to make to make to make to make to make the the to make to make the the thin, and I'm going, and I'm going, and I'm going, and I'm going, and I'm going, and I'm going, and I'm going thin, and I've got a thin' thin' th. th. th and I've th and I've th and I've th and I've th. thr-and I've thrifying it's a thrifying it's a th and I've th and I th and I th and I've th and I th and I've th and I've got th and I've got th and I've got th and I've got thin, thin, thin, thin' thin' thr-a thr-a thrown and I've got thrown, thrown, I've got thrown, I've got thrown, I've got thrown, thrown, I've got thrown, I've got thrown, I've got thrown, I've got thrown, I make sure it's a good night. I don't want to let anyone down. It's such an important thing. They're raising money for a charity. And then also going, oh, what are you worried about? You silly little jokes there. There's people going for actual shit and my brain's up. I don't have a gart me for not doing a good enough job. And they're going to have a go at me for taking it too serious. Come on. Just do one. Just. Just. Just. Just. Just. Just. Just. Just. Just do one. Just do one. Just do one. Just do one. Just do one. Just do one. Just. Just do one. Just. Just. Just. Just. Just the the the the the the the th. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I'll. I'll. I'll. I'll. I'll. I'll. I'll. I'll. I'll. I'll. I'll. I'll. I'll. I'll. I'll. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I'll the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. the th. the the the the the the the the the the th. the the th. th. the the th. th. th. th. th., I do the gig come off and I've basically just absolutely hammered where I live now but I don't really mean it I just will... Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I get a text message. Uh, your old neighbors thought your set was brilliant. My current neighbors that I refer to as old. Oh no, oh no. We're at the gig. Oh my God. Oh my God. Oh my God. How old are they Rob? They're up they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they. Yeah. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, oh. Oh, oh. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. Oh, oh. Oh, oh. Oh, oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh, oh, oh, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. Oh, I the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. Oh, I th. Oh. Oh my god no. I'm like, oh no, oh my god. How old are they Rob? They're up there,

do you know what though, it wasn't, they're like, oh now this could get worse. Probably 28? I'd say 50s. Yeah. I'd say mid 50s. Mid 50s. So maybe, you're thinking 60s. No, no, no, early 50s. You're thinking 60s. I don't have to listen to this. I'd say mid-50s, and I wrote, Ha-ha, oh, you know that's not you. And as I wrote it, I was like, you're a pathetic little rat, Rob. Ha ha ha! That I wrote, don't tell the oldies. I do love the countryside by the way. I just needed material. Oh, I was like, needy little rat. You're pathetic little rat. And then they're good as gold

edge, they're really nice. You went, you're just saying that. Although we were the youngest until you moved in. And they're like 50. Oh, yeah. Sorry to steal your title. They're Yeah, they're fine. But you know, when you're they. they. they. they. they. they're just, they. th. they're just, th. th. they. th. th. they. they. they. they're, they. they. they. they're, they. they. th. th. they. they. they. they. they're like, they. they. they're like, they're like, they. they're like, they. they. they. Yeah, they. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, th. Yeah, the. Yeah, the. Yeah, the th. Yeah, they. Yeah, they. Yeah, they. Yeah, they. Yeah, they. Yeah, they. Yeah, they. Yeah, the the th. Yeah, to steal your turtle. They went, yeah, you beat us by about 30 years. Oh, there you go. And they're fine, but you know, you're just like, oh, but honestly, though, I was, you know me, I'm very relaxed performer, very confident. I don't let it get to me too much. I've done a lot of work on that.

But I was absolute bum it and I was like I've not I literally felt like I was doing open mic again. But you've got to have that because otherwise the other option is you just do the same old material you know inside out and it gets boring but when you're you've got to push yourself to write material. It's but it's that feeling that stops you from doing the new better stuff and progressing because you're scared it will go wrong but without, if you have to keep moving and evolving or you become that bloke who just does the same 20 minutes for the rest of his life. Do you know who has moved and evolved throughout their career, Rob? COVID-19.

Always going to say Simon Mayo. So Simon Mayo, radio legend, TV legend, National Treasure, is he an OBE? Probably. Probably, something like that. It was great. I love the fact as well that you waited an acceptable amount of time until you spoke to him about the Teen Choice Awards, was that it? Smash hits awards within the first 10 minutes. The Smash hits awards, that's not in the first 10 minutes there. He wants to talk about his sort of wildly successful and respected film podcast but you're like th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, the th, th, th, th, th, th, th, the, th, th, th, the, th, thi, thi, their, thi, their, their thi, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, th, their, th, the, te, te, te, te, te. te.e. toge, te, toge, te, te, te, their, their, the, their, their, minutes. The smash hits of all dust on in the first 10 minutes there. He wants to talk about his sort of wildly successful and respected film podcast but you're like, what was it like doing the smash hits? Yeah, so listen out see if it made the edit. Here's Simon Mayo. Welcome to the show Simon Mayo. Very excited about this, especially as it's a parenting podcast and you said we're going to have toto be a bit quieter because one of them's asleep in the other room.

Yeah, through the wall behind me. Right. How old? 24. But he was on his elder brother's stag weekend in Copenhagen. So that's the mitigating circumstance. And were you invited on the stag weekend? No, thank you for that. No, really? What is this thing about parents going on their kids' stag and hen weekends? It makes no sense.

The whole point is that you're not there. What is that all about? I genuinely don't know. I don't, I always feel for the dad, they're stood there, they're awkward. Everyone's awkward around them. I don't like it as a, I'm with Simon on this. It depends how, was it a crazy, how many kids have you got two? I got three. I got three. 30

30, thirty, thirty and twenty five, ninety twenty and twenty five, so thirty and twenty five? Thirty, thirty and twenty five? Yeah. So the twins? No, no, no, no. So the other one was born in 91, then 93 and then 1999. So, Right. So, sort of semi-grown up. And then were they all on the stag do together? No, daughter wasn't. Daughter's got the hen do in a couple weeks' time, I think. And equally, I'm not invited to that one. Is mom invited to the hen do? I don't think she was, the, then, I was. I was. I was. the then, then, then, then, then, then, thin, thin, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, thi, thin, toe, too, too, too, too, toe, toe, toe, toe, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, the, thin. So, thin, thin, thin, tho. So, the the tooomoomoomorrow, the the tooomorrow, tooomorrow, tooomorrow, tooomorrow, too, too. So, toe. So, toe. So, to the Hindu? I don't think she was. Again, the whole point is that you're all of the same generation. You don't want the old people, because you cramped the style, you just definitely would.

So... My parents were more trouble than my mates, that's Dagdo. I'd say my dad was the one lowering the tone as opposed to feeling awkward because it was too laddy. Yeah, no I mean I would think I would have spent the whole time thinking I really shouldn't be here and I'd go out so I'd read a book or something like that. Can I tell you what my dad did at my stack do then and we'll go back to you? We played a game it's a bit laddy I'm from South East under called flip the toe the early doors where you have to flick the cup and the team to lose had to strip naked and go down the slide in the villa it was in a public pool naked into the pool so our team won so the other team had to do it as a bit of a dare my dad was a winning team he still got his dick out and went down the slide oh no oh no I mean

I mean what a desperately terrible thing tradition is, that's just these. So there was none of that, apparently. No, it was a bit more sensible. And so they're feeling the effect. So do your kids still live at home, some of them? Just child three, yeah, behind that wall. And how is that?

Because I worry about my children leaving. I said this to David Badeel actually. And he worry your children these days don't leave because it's so difficult for them to get houses basically. Yeah, particularly if you live in London well are the chances you being able to get on any kind of rental or property ladder you know absolutely zero. So yes so they've all gone and then there was a period when they all came back so so COVID we had the house full we had all three kids kids th th th th th th th th th th. th. th. the th. the th. the th. th. the th. th. So the the th. So the th. So the the the th. So the the their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their. So their their their. So their. So their. So their their their their their. So their their. their. their their. their. their. their. their. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So, their their their their their their their th. th. th. th. th. th. their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their the was a period when they all came back. So COVID, we had the house full. We had all three kids, plus my eldest with his now wife and their dog. So it was, we were absolutely busting at the seams.

But, you know, so on the one hand, that was great and on the other hand, obviously it was terrible. I sat at this desk doing my morning show on Scala, looking out on the road, broadcasting for three hours a day, talking to the listeners and just thinking, on the one hand, a lot of our listers were having a great time and on the other, a lot of them were having like the worst time ever. Was there a nostalgia to it? Taking kind of obviously the horrors of COVID out of it, was the kind of lovely element having the family back under one roof. I mean on the one hand it was fantastic and you know you would have conversations and the house is was just about big enough to cope. I've got an office in the garden where I

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For the afternoon? Okay, right. I mean, I imagine in Copenhagen, day two of the SPAA to the SPAA, you guys have. You need a bit of a today, the cider, somea, so. comes into it. All these ridiculous anti-Marsbar attitudes which you guys have. It's easy to have a Mars bar than it is to have a pint of cider in general. Not if you're at the bar in Wetherspoons. Can you do a whole Mars bar, Simon? Yeah. Can you? Yeah, it's a generational thing, I think. Is that your chocolate bar a choice? No, Twix? I had arguments with Richard Osman about this, because he's very very to a to have a to have a the the the the th. th. th. th. It's th. It's th. It's thiiiiiiii. It's thi. It's thi. It's thi. It's thi. It's thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. It's thi. thi. thi. toe. toe. It's toe. It's toe. It's toe. It's toe. It's toe. It's toe. It's toe. It's toe. It is toe. It is th. It is th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's thi. It's thi. It's thi. It's thi. It's thi. It's thi. It's t. It's a ti. It's a toge. It's easy. It's easy. It's easy. It's easy. It's a toge. It's easye. It's a ti.. I had arguments with Richard Osmond about this because he's very dismissive of twix which feels wrong because there's a chemical into it. I don't know what the chemical is but it smells like

gas of some kind but when you eat it it's quite addictive. So I would always go a twix and the worst thing of course is like the extra size twix. It's like two foot long. Yeah. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. the thi. thi. the thi. thi. thi. thi's thi's thi's thi's thi's thi. thi. the the the the thi. the the the the the thi. thi. thi. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. t. twea. twea. twea. twea. twea. twea. twea. twea's twea. twea's twea. twea. twea. Yeah. Because if you're hungry and you're driving, then that's obviously the snack of choice. Yeah. And how often you're having a twix? Well, not. It used to be, you know, like one or two a week, I would say. Yeah. And is it going up or down? Actually, I have, now I'm feeling quite hungry about it. I haven't had one twiiixt a th th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. And, thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. And, thi. And, thi. And, twea. And, twea. And, twea. And, twea. And, twex. And, twex. And, twex. And, twex. And, twexxxxx. And, twexn. And, twi. And, twi. And, twi. And, twi. And, tw. And, tw. And, tw. And, toeea. And, tw. And, tw. And, tw. And, tw. And. I haven't had the tricks in 2024. No, I don't think so. The most indulgent thing, I did have

a whole tube of smarties in one mouthful. Oh wow. Have you tried that? No. Again, better than cider. If you're driving them, they just sitting there and you're soaking up all the sort of like stuff off the coating and that or you chewing it down? A bit of both. So you have to you need some mouth feel in there so you need to leave it there for a while. Can I ask one more question on the technique? Are you going smarties to hand to mouth or just straight in? Oh straight in, come on. Straight in from the tube. Yeah, that's the point of the tube isn't it? You just flip the top, down it goes. And so, so much safer than driving drinking cider. Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely, of course. And so how do you stay in toucest with your grown-up children like? Yeah, we have a family WhatsApp group. So we have a WhatsApp group with all of us

and then there's a WhatsApp group with each child individually. So if you just want to communicate with one of them, then you can do that. Yeah, so it's like a revolution. When I was at uni, I rang my parents once a week from the phone box at the end of the corridor. And then you know, you'd run out of 10 P's and you go, okay, fine, talk to you next week. We're in touch the whole time, you know, and it's a good thing.

I think the WhatsApp group, particularly if you've got a family to, watch Little Oscar playing with Lego and stuff, which is fantastic. Yeah, the clips. Do you think, though, because it's so easy now to message your mom and dad, like if you are an adult, that like, well, like before, you'd have to sort of problem solve yourself or go how does this work out, you'd sort of like work it out or have to ask other people, but it feels like any little problems like, dad, mom, did you find that or are they quite self-sufficient? No. It varies from child to child. But in general, because the communication is so easy, yeah, you get a message saying, what did you say last week about cabbage?

So it's that kind of casual conversation, the kind of useless information that WhatsApp is there for. But it's those kind of tiny, the minutiae of the conversation which enables, which I think is most of the minutiae of the conversation which it enables, which I think is most of the time very useful, I would say. Yeah, I'd say that's the thing that connects you the most, right? You don't want to be constantly talking to your parents about deep stuff. I want to be talking to my parents about cabbage. Which luckily my parents want to talk to me. I don't. I really don't give a shit while my mom thinks of cabbage. She can die before I know that. What's your mom's favorite chocolate bar, Rob? That's the big question. Oh, do you know what? She reckoned she doesn't like sweet stuff or cake or chocolate, but she'll fucking nail a flake. Yeah, I like a flake. Too messy for me.

Now, can I ask it, because you've got a very well-respected podcast with Mark. Comod, Comodermo takes about films and you're sort of like the go-to guys in British culture to get the view on a film. However, your children must think, shut the fuck up, Dad, what do you know? Or do they listen to you? Do what, what, do they respect you guys' opinion when they listen to your podcast or do they ignore it because your dad's not the film? the thing is I often don't give my views on a the views on, the views on, the views on, the views on, the views on, the views on, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, their their their their, their, their, their, their, thi, their, their, their, their, their, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, I often don't give my views on a film because that's what Mark's there for. So I'm the host, he's the contributor. He's the one that will slay to film or will rave about a film. Occasionally, if I really like it or really hate it, in my opinion comes into it. But in general, I'm the guy who reads out the emails and does the interview. So we just did Deni Vilnivnav, the the the the the th, th, the, th, th, th, th, th, th, the, the, th, th, th, th, the, th, th, the, the, th, th, th, th, th, th, the, the, th, th, and, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, and, the, the, the, the, and, tho, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, the, the, they.hue, together, will will will.a, together, will will.a, together, will.a, together, together, they.a, will will.a, they.h.h. And, the June books and so he was kind of genuinely interested to know what Hansen and Denny Vilnove were like and what we talked about and

Denny Vilnoth's shoe choice and those kind of things. So they're interested in that so they're at times when the world's kind of intersect. But are they interested in my opinion on a film, but no more than anyone else is, but they're interested in what Mark Mark the the the the the their the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the their their their their their their their their th, thi their th genuinely th genuinely th genuinely th genuinely th genuinely th genuinely th, th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. th. their, th. th. th. th. their their their their their their their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, te. te an te an tean. tean. tean. tean. tean. tean. tean. tean. te. te. t on a film? No more than anyone else's, but they're interested in what Mark has to say and what a particular interviewee was like. Right, that kind of stuff. And have you introduced them to people? Like, obviously through your career from being on, I suppose Radio One might have been slightly too early to get your kids into stuff,

but like, you've met lots of exciting people and you've been to lots of exciting places. Have you been able to introduce them to people and take them to things? I mean, you're right. Most of the radio one stuff was too early, but you know, five live and radio two and now greatest hits, there is sometimes an overlap. So for example, I'm just to, I call him Tom, Mr. Hanks. He signed this Apollo 13 poster to Ben, go flight, exclamation mark, Tom Hanks. And that poster is now framed and is in on the front wall in Copenhagen. Yeah. I took a photograph of that. And the last time I interviewed Tom Hanks, which is last year I showed him a photograph. I said you did this for my son my son, it's now on his front wall, you know, and I said what he did, you know, and all

that, Tom is fantastic. So there's an element of that. Yeah. I mean, I wouldn't want to give the impression that I have some kind of show his lifestyle. You are calling Tom Hanks Tom, which is quite exciting, which is sort of letting, thom, th and th. And, th. And, to, and to, and to, and to, and to, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, is, is, is, is, is the the, is, is to, is to, is to, is to, is, is, is to, is, is to, is, is, is to, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is the, is the, is the, is it, is it, is it, is it, is it, is it, is it, is it, is it, is it, is tom. Tom, is tom. Tom, is tom. Tom, is tom. Tom, is tom. Tom, is tom. And, is tom. And, is tom, is tom, is in America, he's on holiday, you're on holiday. Is it an immediate Hank dog, what's going on? Or is it, oh, we interviewed, what's the relationship like? Great question. I would kind of leave him alone, but if I said hello and said who I was, he would go, oh yeah, yeah, because I think I've done it enough times now for him to remember. My surname is an old surname, so I think I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I think, I think, I think, I think, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, is thi, is a thi, is an thi, is an thi, is an immediate, is an immediate, is an immediate, is, is an thi, is, is, is, is an thi, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is thi, th. Is th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi, thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, is a thin. thin. thin, is theean, is thi. done it enough times now for him to remember. My surname is an odd surname, so I think he probably, I mean, last time it seemed as though he remembered, even though obviously he does thousands of interviews, he's the greatest of all time, you know, he makes each interview feel as though yours is the only

interview that he's going to do, and so this is really special. So I would go I th th go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, the the the the thi, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, I. I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I'm, I'm, I'm, thi. I'm, thi. I'm, that would be very annoying so only after a couple of beers. But he's the guy who played Mr. Rogers in that fantastic film. So he genuinely seems to be as nice as he comes over. But I was on front row, on Radio 4 and Christopher Eccleston was on and he again is fantastically sociable and I explained to him that my youngest, through that wall. Still asleep, lazy bastard. I'm at the Brits I'm here, fucking grafting. He went Copenhagen.

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toubst toubst toubts, but without any means of getting in touch. And then there was another time, someone I won't mention who was another writer for television who was so, so rude.that I've never watched anything this person is done never again. What kind of person is rude to a child who's just excited to meet you? Yeah. You know what I think having a little under-surface personal feud that you don't have to make public but you just when you're at home they pop on the tel and you go I fucking ate you. I think it's good to have a channel to go you are scum and I don't have they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they the they they the they the they they they their th they they they they they they they th th thi thi. I thi. I'm thi. I'm their their their their their their their their their their their their their th. I th. I th. I th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th thi thi thi. I thi thi thi to to thi to to thi to thi to to to to thi to to to to to to to thi to to thi thi thi thi thi thi thi to have a channel to go, you are scum. And I don't have to bang on about it, but I know, they know, when you lock eyes, you know in deep and your soul that they're rotten.

Do you think anyone's got that about you, Rob? Probably. And do you know what? Good luck to them? Yeah, that must be awful. Yeah, everyone needs one. is unnecessarily unpleasant, particularly if they're unpleasant to your kids, which is like the... Yeah, that must be awful. You said that obviously Radio 1 was slightly before you had kids. My first... It came inside a bit in terms of introducing them to Megastow.

My first real strong memories of Simon Mayo are as host of the Smash Hits Poll Winners Party. Oh wow, yes. And that must have been full of kids, and you haven't got kids or you've got th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that th th th th th th th th th th th th th. th. th. tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho thou tho tho the thou the the thou thoooooooo. thoooooooo. that that that that that that yes. And that must have been full of kids and you haven't got kids or you've got very young kids at that point. What was that like in terms of you're just in charge of a room for... Where was it? I don't know where it was, but... It was Earl's Court. It was always El's Court in the 90s. Yeah. So there's 93 and 94 and I remember it for three things. One was the level of yelling and shouting from the crowd was so loud. So obviously it's television so I had taught back in its live television. I couldn't hear a thing. Like the Beatles in Shea Stadium. It was exactly like the Beatles in Shea Stadium. So I couldn't hear myself. I couldn't hear the cue. I couldn't hear anything. So the second things th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi the thi the the the the the the the the the the the theateateateateateateateateateate the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. One the. One the. One the. One theatl. One theateateateateatl. One things. One things. One theateateatl. One theateateateatl. One theateateateateatl. One the the the Beakles in Chase, David. So I couldn't hear myself, I couldn't hear the cue, I couldn't hear anything.

So the second thing is that take that one everything. Yeah, rightly so. That's one of the reasons why the noise was so great because it's like peak, take that. And the third thing I remember is that, I mean, by my son in Copenhagen. So 90s fashion. Wow. That's Simon Mayo Museum in Copenhagen. That's right, but there's no one has mentioned the smashes pole and his party. The doorbell goes mail. Yeah. That still is in my head. They're opening to your radio show, that Mayo. Yeah. Occasionally we'll just be walking along the street and shout that out loud. Yes, that does happen and in fact it was Steve Wright who did that

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And what was that like kind of adapting to, because that was like, in time to have small kids? Yeah. I listened to Sean Keveny talking about getting up at breakfast and having family. The key thing is, first point to say to Sean is starting a show at 7 o'clock is not a breakfast show. That's like a minute. Thank you, Simon. I thought that. I've got to leave the house at half six when I leave earlier in that and I'm doing fucking comedy. Six o'clock the th. Six o' th. Six o' the th. Six o' th. Six o' the th. Six o' th. Six o' th. Six o' th. Six o' th. Six o' th. Six o' th. Six. Six o' th. Six. Six o' th. Six. Six. Six. Six o'-I's. Sixth. Six o'-I's th. Six o' th. S' th. S'-I's. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. the. the. the. the. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. tie. tie. tie. tie. tie. tie. tie. together. together. together. together. together. together. together. together. today. together. today. together. together. together. together. t and I'm doing fucking comedy. Exactly. Six o'clock is when you start a breakfast show. That's just the point. So don't come... Respect. All tiring and all that kind of stuff.

You're still leaving the house up, I'm six. So you should have been on air at least for half an hour by then. And also Classic FM doesn't count either because you can put on 20 minutes to the thine. Bullshit. Absolutely bullshit. Alexander Armstrong, I'm sure he's listening and nodding. You know he starts an end of the long and he's only in for the hour in the middle. Well that's fair enough, you know, put on the 1812 overture and you've got 20 minutes, you know, that's a... Yeah. Destruption of family. I mean, I think, yes, absolutely. And when I stopped, first of all, my wife is a tripripripriprip, thipipipipipipipipipipipipipipipipipipipipipipipip, my wife is a the th, thian thian, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, the the the the the the the the the the the the the thin, and thin, and thin, and thin, and thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, and th picks up when I'm not there, which was most of the night and the morning. So she took the strain on that. But when I stopped doing breakfast in 93, I'd sort of gone through most of the breakfast period without being properly ill and within a week. So this is just when our daughter was born is 93.

So we had two kids, one of which was a baby, and then I got gastric flu and pneumonia together as soon as I stopped so I'm answering your question about exhaustion so I think yes I just sort of carried on through yeah it's like when you go on holiday and you suddenly get ill because you just keep it going and then you it goes all saggy and you get ill so I think I was just keeping all at bay and then I think that's still the sickest I've ever th. the th. th. the th. th. th. the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm the th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm thi. I'm thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. theeeeeeeeee. I'm just just thi. I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm keeping all at bay and then I think that's still the sickest I've ever been actually. How ell were you? Were you in hospital and stuff? No, I was hallucinating. Oh wow. And we got two GP callouts in the middle of the night so you know that doesn't happen. Yeah. I wasn't hospitalized but that was bad. But they bring so many illnesses home the kids. But not only you tired that when they're they're they're they're they're age of like two to about ten, you're just ill every all winter until they're like a bit older. It's ridiculous. Yeah, and NITS. That's the other thing.

We've not had NIT. Oh, I think I've got them again. You've got them as well. Well, a the text went into the class group And I gonna have to do the knit cure on I basically on myself What's the nick cure to wash it with something? You wash it with a certain thing is actually and then you have to come No, it's a wash in a comb. It's one treatment. It's fine. You can't do it yourself though. Can you need got this grease on. Yeah, no I remember that. We haven't done it for a while but that's the thing you certainly get every Jane going and knit. Go in now and check, wake him up. Your 24-year-old go and check him see what he's been up to in Copenhagen see if he's got any news. Well I'm not

worried about that also he has too much hair to go through but that note from the teacher saying, yeah. By the way, there are nits in the class. Great, thanks very much. Oh, girl. Dew and Mark, who I'd say the classic duo of podcasting, the first kind of royalty of podcasting, do you compare parenting tips? Do you ever go, oh, I tell you what I do in this situation? Mark Cuomo's like, well, well, well, well, well, well, like, well, well, like, well, like, well, like, like, well, well, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, th. th. thi, I to to to they. the, I to to to to to to to to to to, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I. I, I. I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I'd. to. to. too, I'd too, I'd too, too, too, told. too, too, too, too, too, too, I'd too, I'd to come down harder on the lions here, Simon. Do we compare to, I mean, I suppose when thing, you know, there are particularly stressful things that happen, that you go, oh yeah, you know, that happened, we've done that, this is how we dealt with it, or I suppose there are those inevitable conversations. And we talk about family on the film podcast, but always as sort of child one, child, child, child, child, child, child, child, child, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, thi, thi, tho, tho, th. And, I, I, I, I th. And, I, I, I, I, I. And, I, I. And, I, I. And, I, I, I. And, I, I. And, I, I, I. And, I, I, I, I, I. And, I, I, I, I, I. And, I, I, I, I, I. And, I, I, I. And, I, I, I. And, I, I, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, thi. And, thi. And, tha. And, tha. And, tha. And, tha. And, tha. And, tha. And, I mean, I but always as sort of child one, child two,

child three, just because I don't think it helps particularly if, you know, if they have to live their lives on them, through no and follow their own. Yeah, we don't name them either, yeah. If we go, I go, I go, my boy and my girl. And what do you go, Rob? Just older and younger? No, we don't give their names out. Also, I think actually giving their age is actually more helpful when telling a story than their name. So if you go about eight-year-old did this, it gives the audience a slight understanding of why they'd be doing that, because whatever the story is, if the eight or 18, does

make a difference, isn't it? But yet, also, I also, it's become too lucrative. lucrative. lucrative. to lucrative. to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, the, to, the, the, to, to, to, they. their, to, their, their, the, is a. their, their, is, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, their, the, their, is a. their, is a. their, is a. to-a, to-a. to-a.a. to-a.a, to-a.g. to-a, to-a, their, their, give. this podcast does damage them. That's the plan. It's somehow instinctive, isn't it, if you think, I don't think I should say that. So this podcast is an exercise in tightrope walking, isn't it really? Absolutely, yeah. Yeah. Especially with some of Josh's views that he's brought from Devon. Yes. What's Mark Hermmode like as a parent? He's never been a parent to me, but I would imagine him and the good lady professor her indoors to give her the name that Mark uses. Our fantastic parents and they've got fantastic kids who do very well, you know, but we're all kind of out the other side. You know, there's the screaming toddlers and then there's the primary school and the teens and teens, and I'm very grateful the fact that the whole, the social media stuff,

we just missed actually with child three, kind of, I think life would have been a lot more difficult if it had been full on when he was at secondary school, but now that they're adults, the whole thingthe book was 14 years old and I made a point of not wanting it to be like child 3 who was 10 at the time but I'd written it for him but I didn't want anyone at his school to think you've written about your kid so I made them as different as possible but you're always aware that if someone at school has read the book they might think that you're writing about your kid and I'd thi th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th three th three three three thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th th. th. thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi theee thi the thi thi thi thi thi thi thi that if someone at school has read the book, they might think that you're writing about your kid. And I'd read something

about the AA Milne books and AA Milne's son who was Christopher Robin, it really kind of screwed life around, you know. Yeah, it really did. Oh no, what happened first mistake, Robin Milne, you know, so they... There's the giveaway, I'm regretting calling my daughter parent in hell now. It's like the other one with that is the baby from the cover of Nevermind, who tried to sue and and it's really kind of defined their life in a way where you just go, God, you don't think about it, we need to stop the podcast, Rob. Yeah. And there was that kid who was on the front of you two's war album who had a very...

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Tom Hanks is obviously a lovely person. Who is the most difficult person you've interviewed? I know that's off topic, but I needed to get it out there. Because you've interviewed more or less everyone from Hollywood, May and Como to Take, which as we've discussed is the go-to place for films obviously has huge stars on it. And that's your own? That's not a BBC one, that's your own independent podcast, isn't it? Yeah, that's your right. Less adverts better pay kind of podcast. That's the one. Difficult interview. I mean in general everyone is okay now because they know that you get your 15-minute slot and if you misbehave you get not you don't get the next one, you know, so in general yeah. But then there is always Stephen Seagal who. Who was just such an ass. It was a live interview. So there's obviously not much you can do with that. So this is on, this is a five live interview. And he had an album out of country in Western songs or some, I think that's what it was. The album was terrible, the interview was terrible, he misbehaved. Was he in the room or was it down the line? It was down the line. The worst interview face-to-face was Frank Sinatra Jr.

who clearly is Frank Sinatra's son. And normally I don't, kids, you don't talk to kids about the famous parents, but he was touring with the Frank Sinatra orchestra doing Frank Sinatra so there there. So therefore, it was a game. So again, a live interview on Radio 2, and I said, it was terrible. He didn't want to be there. So I said, we're going to play some classic sonatra now. Which of these songs would you like us to play?

And he said, I don't know. I said, well, here's the list named six of the video. He says, I can't remember. You know, so you think, okay, I should have finished the interview there and then, but I always think you're one question away from getting there. That attitude came about from a Richard Gere interview, and he was being really difficult and really, he's notorious for being quite a difficult interview. And we were getting absolutely nowhere. So the only thing I could think of to say was, can I just say before we go any further, Richard,

that you ruined my life? And he sort of snapped out of whatever awkward trance he was on. Yeah. And he said, what do you mean? I ruined your life. And I said, well, my name is Simon Mayo. And when you were in that movie, an officer, and you played a character called Zachary Mayo. And if you remember, there's a Sergeant Major who makes his life misery

by calling him mayonnaise, and it's like a thing that runs through the, yeah, through the movie. And so because of the film, I got called Mayonnaise when I was at school, which is not a bad nickname to have, but you know. Yeah, Helmans is worse. Yeah, yeah, the rest of the interview was fine because he was awake and interested and we were doing something different. So I have that in the back of my mind and I'm interviewing Frank Sinatra Jr. or Stephen C.A. things, but some interviews are just irredeemable and it was just catastrophic and you just think,

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particular story. It was great and so therefore the interview had a certain energy. But in general you're relying on them being good enough at what they do because they're selling. So there's a world a difference between an actor who's selling a film that they don't really get. Like Ray Fines talking about playing Voldemort for example, I asked him how the Elder Wand worked and he had absolutely no idea. But then you get Ray Fine six months later talking about his own project. A movie about Charles Dickens, which is his and he's directed. He's like a different man altogether. Yeah. Right. Where's the Ray Fines who didn't care their their thing. But in general, they know how to promote to promote. And their. And their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, the, the, the, tho, the, the, thi, thi, the, the, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, they's, they's, the, their, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, their, their, their, thi.a. And, their, thi. And, thi. And, their, they. And, thi. And, thi, thi, thi, it's the same guy. But in general, they know how to promote their stuff, you know, and they're quite happy to do it because it's part of the game. Have you ever had to resort to asking how many twixes they've had in 2024? No, I did offer a vocal

zone to Sandra Bullock though. Yeah, I think that's kind of, did she take it? Well, she was coughing and spluttering and I said, I've got one of these things which are fantastic. So she took my vocal zone and got through the interview. Hard to do that on Zoom. No, it's hard to do that on Zoom. That is absolutely right. But a vocal zone is something that you'd far more useful than smarties. Now leave them in your mouth for a bit and then show. And then we'll talk about speed three. With your son who's 24 living in your house, is there still a parent-son relationship?

Do you find yourself slipping into those roles or is it like almost having a flatmate? Because he's a grown adult? You never stop the parent-child thing? You know, so like after uni, it's a grown adult. You never stop the parent child thing you know so like after uni it's a different relationship but you do have to say look the reason I'm asking are you in tonight is because I just need to know whether I'm locking up I'm not not trying to find out what you're doing you know and if I want to know if you do need a meal it's not a controlling thing or that it's not a controlling throwning th th th th th th th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thin. thi thi thi thi thi the thr- thrown. I thrown. thrown. I thrown. thrown. thi thi the the the the thi thi the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the thr-I thrown. thrown. I thrown. I thrown. I thrown. I thrown. I thrown. things. thrown. try. try. thrown. thrown. you you you you thrown. I thing. It's just like trying to work out how the house runs. Do you want this? Do you want that?

You know? I think it just takes a while to settle into a new relationship. Because it just changes. But you never stop thinking, why are you wearing that shirt? Why you're wearing that shirt? So like now, so what time of the day is caught to 11 will you put your head in door and go fucking liven up mate get out of bed what we're doing today what's going on? I'll get Dr. Who to do that obviously. Or do you not do that at all now and let him get on with it or is there still that bit of like dad in you? I guess I'd only do that if he was the only one in the house you know I was I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I the th I the th I th I th th th th th th th the to to to to to to to to to to to the th the the to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th the to to the to to the to to to the to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to tothink it's good to know if you're the only one in the house, so I'd wake him up and say, by the way, you're on your own here.

But in general, I just let him, I'd let him sleep because he, he does strange hours. He's nocturnal, basically. Okay, shift work. Did those be five live years and stuff like that? So you're interviewing Tony Blair, then you're doing the pickup and stuff. Did they like that as your career? Or did they find it embarrassing that dad was interviewing Tony Blair? I guess they kind of, they grew up with it, so it was absolutely, it was just what your parents did. Yeah. And I remember interviewing Alice Cooper once, and he was talking about how his kids used to think he was embarrassing. Same with Billy Idol. Actually, I think he must have been the coolest parent of all the

time. Billy Idol, you know, he looks incredible still, you know, but no, his kids thought he was embarrassing. So, well I think you just grow up and get used to what's there. Occasionally you have conversations where you realize that you have become a conversation topic at school. I hope that, I hope I didn't spoil it too much. No. My sleepy child runs a comedy night and my wife and I sort of take it in terms to go along and sit at the back.

And there's a kind of bit of audience participation and he was picking on me as you know it's always useful to pick on someone in the audience but he was giving me a hard time which is fine and then at half time one of the other comedians said you can't do that do you realize who you're talking to also he didn't let him know that you were his dad he just pretended you was audience yeah he said to this other comedian what's the name he said he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he was he was he was he was he was he was he was he was he was he was he was he was he said he said he said he said he he he he he he he said he said he said he said he said he said he said he said he said he said he said he said he said he said he said he said he said he said he said he said he said he said he said he said he said he said he said he said he he was he he was he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he said he said he said he said he said he said he said he said he said he said he said he said he said he said he said he said he said he said he said he said he said he said he said he said he said he said he said he said he said he said he said he said he said he said he said he said he said he said to this other comedian, what's my surname? Oh, oh, I see, sorry I didn't realize. So I think we're fine. In general, it's been a positive. Have any of them gone into radio?

My daughter is in podcasting with the BBC. My oldest has got nothing to do with it. And Sleep Child, he works for QI and does comedy, but he likes making podcasts as well. So I came across a photograph of my father's father, who I never knew from like the 1930s, 1940s, and he's clearly performing in a garden. So it's like standing on flower pots and looking his face back off and thinking there's a show-off gene, there's a performing gene in the family, which for me is doing radio and for Sleep Child, it's doing other things. There's clearly something that's running through the family somewhere, I suppose.

What's it like watching your child do stand up? Because I've struggled when my parents are in to concentrate on anyone else being at the gig? I don't know whether you have this, Rov. I didn't want anyone I knew near me when I was gigging, but then now I don't give a shit who's there, but at the time I would be like mortified if my parents or anyone was there. Yeah, I think that's fair enough. I think it's far more difficult being the parent than the parent than being up on stage. I. I. I. I. I. I.oping and applauding and joining in and but you know if you didn't want us to go he'd tell us I think so it's like they say it's more difficult being the football manager they always say when the football manager it's more stressful

because you can't actively influence the game whereas the player obviously can throw themselves into it. My dad was a head teacher and the to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the toe. the the the the toe. toe. toe. to to to toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their dad was a head teacher and we used to go to the end of year performances, you know, like the kind of review and my dad would always insist on being in it because he thought it was good for the head teacher to you know she was up for a laugh but he was so bad at remembering his lines and all that we would just, my mom used to just think, please just say no just don't do it. You know any parent parent th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. that that that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, their was their their was, their was, their was, their was, their was their was, their was their was just, their was their was their was their was their was, their was, their was, their was, their was, their was, their was, their was, their was, their is, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, thr-I. thr-a. thr-a. th. theeateat. th. theateateat, th. theeeat. thee. thee. know, any parent who's been to see their kid in a play. It's absolute hell. It's parenting hell, in fact. Watching your kid in a production just awful, unless they're brilliant, of course.

Yeah, how's it being a granddad? Do you feel like you're getting a sort of second go at it? You're not as busy as you probably were like when you're the radio one days with the mad hours do you feel like it's a bit more space to enjoy being granddad yeah he's fantastic I mean he's a fantastic kid and actually he's the best-looking kid in Copenhagen I don't know if it's a tough market as well yeah but I mean he clearly is I think obviously he's a long way way so he's not around the corner so the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the they's they's they's they's they's they's they's the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the toy is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is so toy is is is is is is is is is so I I the the the the the the the the the the the corner. It's an hour flight Simon, you've got to put the effort in that you don't mean after the family, we're there at the weekend. Kind of pop around looks after the kid. It's fantastic, it's like everyone says you know, it's fantastic and then you can hand them back. Yeah. And then we got on a plane and come home, you know, so. And we come home completely exhausted because clearly when you're in your 60s you can't th the th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, it's th, it's th, it's th, it's tho, it's th, it's tho, it's tho, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's their their their their their their their their their their their, it's their their their, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's their their th, it's, it's their th, it's their th, their, their, their tho, thoomo, their thooomorrow, it's tho, thoooooomorrow, it's thooomorrow, it's tho, it's their that you're doing when you're in your forties. You are just exhausted by having a kid around for a couple of days.

But it's a blessing and the WhatsApp thing is just amazing. You get to see when he walks for the first time. You get to hear him formulate words in Danish and in English, and that's fantastic. It's those random conversations which you would have missed before WhatsApp was around. My phone is actually twice the weight that it was because it's just got photographs of Oscar on it. Are you printing them off and sticking them to the back? No, but you know your phone is genuinely heavier once it's loaded with stuff?

No, leave it out now you wanted to be up. No, this is E equals MC squared. It's about the energy that goes into some, we did this is E equals MC squared it's about the energy that goes into some we did this on homework sucks which is a feature I did on radio too but it's not possible to measure how much heavier it is but the more energy that goes into a phone the heavier it is so that your phone which is empty is lighter than you know when you first buy it is now heavier because you've got all those that's incredible this is a man that lives with a QI Elf right there. That's exactly what you get from that. And are you excited about your grandchild growing up in a Scandinavian education system? It's very different to over here, but a lot of people talk about how great it is, how kind of more,

they don't read till seven do they? They're much more into outdoor play. There's a much more kind of progressive approach to it. That's quite an exciting thing I'd imagine. Yes and there's a journalist who, to write called Helen Russell who... Yeah, we've had her on here. She's great. Oh, right. So how to raise a Viking is a fantastic read and all about being a Brit but I think, I mean, she may will be a to be a to be a to be a to be a to be a to be a to be a to be a to be a to be a to be a to be a to be a to be a to be a to be a to be a to be a to be a to be a to be a to be a to be a to be a journalist to be a to be a to be a to be a to be a journalist a to be a journalist a to be a journalist a to be a journalist a to be a journalist a to be a to be a to be a journalist to be a to be a to be a to be a journalist to be a to be a to be a journalist to be a to be a to be a to be a to be a to be a to be a to be a to be a to be a to be a to be a to be a to be a to be a toldldenist a toldeananist, toldean, toldean, toldean, toldean, toldean, toldean, toldean, told. told. to but she realized that she was Googling what kind of crossbow is acceptable for a two-year-old when she realized that she could live become a Viking.

Yeah, I mean, it's fantastic. I mean, just learning about other cultures is great, but the Scandy culture is something that I think a lot of us admire. I would rather them live there than Chicago, you know, yeah, or a whole host of other places. There just seems to be something about Copenhagen and Denmark. It's, I mean, it's just going to sound like a terrible cliche, but it feels like a country that's at ease with itself. He knows what it's doing. It knows what it can do.

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Thank you for talking to us. I'm going to have a Twix at some point because I've written them off for the last decade and a half of my life. You need to to to and maybe with the smartest chaser. How about that? Yes. Oh I'll be absolutely buzzing. I'll do that before my next gig. Have you ever bit in the end off both ends of the twiks and sucks up tea or coffee through like a chocolate straw? I like with the Tim Tam. Have you ever done that? I think that sounds immoral. They'll knock your fucking sucks off. I don't. They'll the the the the the they'll. They'll. They'll. They'll. I. They'll. I. I. I. They'll th. I'll th. I'll th. I'll th. I'll th. I'll th. I'll th. I'll th. I'll th. I'll th. I'll th. I'll th. I'll thi. I'll th. I'll th. I'll that. I'll that. I'll that. I'll that. I'll that. I'll that. I'll that. I'll that. I'll that. I'll that. I'll that. I'll that. I'll that. I'll that. I'll that. I'll that. I'll that. I'll that. I'll that. I'll that. I'll th. I'll th. I'll th. I'll th. I'll th. I'll th. I'll th. I'll th. I'll the the the th. I'll the the th. I'll the the th. I'll th. I'll be th. I'll th. I'll th. I'll th. I'll th. I'll th. I don't think it's physically possible and if it was he's probably banned in the Old Testament. Fair enough, yeah. We do a normal final question. I want to ask a penultimate final question which is, since leaving five live, do you miss handing over to John and Alice? No, no not really. Perfect. That's all I wanted. Sorry, the Welsh guy and the English guy that likes Queen with dark hair. Do you remember it?

They were good fun and they loved our show and the good guys, but a chatty handover wasn't encouraged. Thank you. We always end with the same question, which is if your wife's listening, if there's one thing that she does as a parent, that you just blows you away, you can never do it yourself, you just go, that is just incredible. And another thing, maybe a small annoyance that you don't mention, but worse you to listen to this, so it would be a good way to communicate it to her. Oh my goodness me. So something that she does well and something that she does badly. Or this doesn't do badly that annoys you. Everyone's allowed an opinion, aren't they? No.

Where did you get that idea from? It's the reason you left the BBC. Everyone's allowed the opinion, isn't it? Well, she's endlessly patient and creative. And is always making things, you know, little things and creative things and drawing things. So, you know, something that's annoying. It's like, if I could think of something, why would I tell you? That's what I can't quite understand. It's just great, it's just great radio, great podcasting, great content. You don't mean? Or we could end with, and what's the taste on choppingaste on chocolate. No, no, don't give him an out.

He's got one. He's just, he's got one. He's just trying to find the courage to say it. Have you watched Mr. Mrs. Smith? Angelina Jolie and Brad Pitt. There's a TV series which, so the movie stank, but there is a TV series called Mr. Mrs. Smith, which is think is on Amazon, and it's fantastic. And the feel is completely different to the movies.

I do recommend it. And in the final episode, when they're Mr. Smith, they're both trying to kill each other, he opens the front door and he looks through the hall and he notices that the toilet seat is up, the toilet seat is up, and he's the thing that makes him realize that there's something wrong. Whether the toilet seat is up or toilet seat is down becomes incredibly important. And I remember that for reasons that are still lost to me when we got married, the issue was, why don't you put the toilet seat down? So well, you can put the toilet seat down. But it's respectful if you put the toilets. I said, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, the the the the they, th, th, they, th, th, they, they, they, they, they, they put the toilet seat down. Yeah, but it's respectful if you put the toilets. I said, well, you do you leave it up afterwards? Yeah. So you end up having this utterly pointless argument. The easiest thing is just to leave it down. It's fine. Pick your battles and all that kind of thiii. But it seemed to be, if you left it up, it kind of symptomized an attitude of I don't care about anything. Why are you leaving the toilet seat up? It's reckless, it's dangerous, and it shows you don't care. So I thought, okay, well I'll just leave it down.

But really, what does it matter? I don't think it matters. Well, look, I think, if toilet need to be down, I think sometimes the actual lid doesn't go down. Just the midsection. Yeah. Does that need. Does to to to to to to to to to to to the to the to the the to to the the the the the to the the the the the the thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. I'll just just just just just just just the the the the the the the the the the the their th. I'll just th. I'll just th. I I I I I I'll just th. I I I I I I I I I I I'll just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just. the the thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. I'll just. thi. I'll just. I'll just. I'll just. I'll just. I'll just. thi. I'll just thi. I'll just leave them both up, it doesn't represent... No, both up's bad. Do you think? Both up is like, you're not supposed to have it both up, are you? But who says? Well, Simon's wife, obviously, he's livid about it. But if you do leave both up, it's not indicative of anything. It doesn't show anything, it doesn't reveal anything. up, in which case, put them both down again. It's fine. How long does that take? Not long. It's easier just to do it than moan about it. And so do you now do it as a matter of course?

Yes, I'll just leave it down because life is easier. You know, why make life difficult for yourself? So basically she's won, but you think she's wasted her time winning? That's a good way of putting it. I'm not going to be expressing tho. And most people give up before they get to the end of a podcast anyway. So I'm opening the few. Could I ask one supplementary question on that is when you put it down, each time, you know there's things in your life where if you do it every time you think the same thing, does a small element of resentment course through you every time you put the seat? No, because it now, it makes me think how kind and caring I am. Ah yes, respect.

I've turned it into a positive thing, you know. Yes, that's good. Aren't I a great guy? There you go. I'll pop that down. Simon, thank you so much. It's been an absolute joy. Thank you for inviting me on. It was. to to to to th. there that was, you are far more Tom Hanks than you are Stephen Segal. Yeah absolutely. I will happily go with that on my grave. Thank you very much.

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