Parenting Hell with Rob Beckett and Josh Widdicombe - S8 EP38: Al Murray

Episode Date: May 17, 2024

Joining us this episode to discuss the highs and lows of parenting (and life) is the brilliant comedian, actor, musician and writer - Al Murray. You can find info and tickets for Al's 'We Have Our Ways' festival HERE Parenting Hell is a Spotify Podcast, available everywhere every Tuesday and Friday. Please leave a rating and review you filthy street dogs... xxx If you want to get in touch with the show here's how: EMAIL: [e-mail] INSTAGRAM: @parentinghell MAILING LIST: parentinghellpodcast.mailchimpsites.com  A 'Keep It Light Media' Production  Sales, advertising, and general enquiries: [e-mail] NEW ALBUM OF THE SAME NAME IS OUT MAY 10TH - PRE-ORDER HERE Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hello, I'm Rob Beckett. And I'm Josh Winnockham. Welcome to Parenting Hell, the show in which Josh and I discuss what it's really like to be a parent, which I would say can be a little tricky. So, to make ourselves and hopefully you feel better about the trials and tribulations of modern-day parenting, each week we're chatting to a famous parent about how they're coping. Or hopefully how they're they're tha be hearing from you the listener with your tips, advice and of course, tales of parenting woe. Because let's be honest, there are plenty of times when none of us know what we're doing.

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Hell rocks. Hell rocks. Oh, there we go. Nice. A bit of ad live on there as well. Yeah, just chilling with Arabella. Great name, Arabella. Yeah, named after the a monkey's song do we think? Doesn't say in the email, but that's my first thought.

I like a name you can shop up by Edward, I think it's a great name. What because it could be Teddy or Ed or? Eddie, Edie. Yeah, Woody. Oh, yeah, loads up. Arabella, Ara, Bella. Shorthy, no, no, I'm just from the Middle East. She's been listening, though, not of her own choice since she was newborn. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the th. th. th. th. th. the th. thi. that, that, that, that's, that's, thi, thi, thi, it was, it could could could could today, it's, it could today, it could, it could, it could, it could, it could, it could, it could, it could, it could, it could, it could, it could, it could, it could, it could, it could, it could, it could could, it could could could could could, to be. to be. to be. to be. to be. to be. to be. to be. to be. to be. to be. to be. tod. tod. today, today, today, today, today, today, today, to be, today, today, today, today, to be, to be, it's, to be, today, to just from the Middle East. Yeah, she's been listening though, not of her own choice, since she was newborn. So it was about time she gave the intro go.

She's currently in the midst of her terrible twos, made that much more entertaining by the arrival of her sister, Del Lila. Del Lila or Del Deli or Deli, all the options there. Why Deliler? Is it's a j j j j j j j j j j j j j j j j jin, is th, is th, is th, is th, is th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii, thi, thi, thilah, is it Jack and that's name does that song? Do you think they love indie music from the 2000s? Well, maybe, I think they're gonna, you know, have a, have a son called Bohemian Rhapsody maybe. Come on. I was trying to think of a weird name,

so I was trying to to think of a weird name of song from the Nortortortortortortortortortortortortortortortortortorta.. I know. I had to try and think, then I was singing Franz Ferdinand, but then they're the band. I was trying to think of a weird name from the Norty's. Take me out. Take me, yeah, that wouldn't work. You want a name though, don't you? Do you email in, don't you? Do you know, but, Arabella and Delilah Fenning. The Fennings. How are you Josh? I'm buzzing Rob. I've had so much protein.

We need to talk about this because I'm on a fitness journey where I'm trying to go to the gym. I'm trying to lose a bit of weight but also go to the gym and sort of to look to look to look to look to look to look to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the to to the the to to to to to the to to to to to to to to to to to to the the the the the the to to to to to to their. I'm their. I'm their. I'm the the the the their. I'm their. I'm their. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I'm. I. I. I'm. I'm the the the the the the the thea. I'm thea. I'm. I'm thea. I'm thea. I'm thea. I'm the the the the the the the the the the the, I'm trying to lose a bit of weight but also go to the gym and sort of get not to look better really but sort of get muscles in the right places because I'm finding that I've got really strong legs because I'm heavy and I play loads of football but I do nothing with my middle of my arms. I feel like that needs to their t eating and what I'm doing and stuff like that to try and lose a bit of weight. You've signed up. I've signed up because I don't have a fucking advice here. I'm not going to Ben Javan start sucking and kissing your ass but I think you look really good. I think you look lean, you haven't seen me with my top off. If I think you look quite quite quite quite quite quite quite quite quite quite quite quite quite quite quite quite quite quite quite quite quite quite know what it is you need. Well Rob. Talk me through it. What's going on with your fitness journey? This is, this is, this shows me in a bad light, Rob.

Go on. No one, but I think we're here to be honest about ourselves. Okay. I'm not saying I am going on tour because it hasn't been announced, but I might have had a moment where I looked in the mirror and thought I've got to delay these posts to photo shoot. I've got to delay it. I was with your agent and they said that Josh has delayed his photo shoot. Did she? She said she hadn't told you. Oh, maybe it was Lily. Oh, I don't care who it is, it's got loose lips.

I said that you are supposed to be doing them, but you've delayed them until June, so you've only given yourself a month. Yeah, I just, I just, you haven't seen my belly from the side. Yeah, but what, is this a topless photo shoot? I haven't seen your belly from the side? Do you want to see to see to see to see to see to see to see th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho thi tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th tho tho tho tho tho thoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo that's th is this a topless photo shoot? No, it's not a topless photo shoot. I have to see your belly from the side. Do you want to see my belly from the side? There's nothing there, Josh. Oh, barely anything. I look like I'm pregnant.

No, you don't. Anyway, we don't want to create body issues. No, but you're taking photos the photos to put on the app to send to the coach. Yes I have. Lou had to take little photos of me but they want an update photo every week and I'm not doing it. I've give you my weight maybe you're not seeing my belly, you're not seeing the good stuff. Take me out for dinner with balanced macros. I had to say to him that I'm willing to look, you know, maybe you get results. They look good actually, right? Joel Dommet, I was talking to Joel Dommet about it, because I was trying to work it basically if you want to lose weight, you've got to eat loads of protein, I still don't

understand it. I don't understand it. I don't understand it. tol working and I'm enjoying it but the protein situation is getting out of hand then I discover 400 grams of tofu. 400 grams of tofu. 400 grams of tofu. 400 grams of tofu. Because you're veggie how are you getting the protein in you?

Well I tell you what I'm not doing. Are you trying to lose your belly and buff up a bit. I. I. I. I to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the protein the protein to to to to to to to to to to tha. I is 4 the protein the protein the protein is 4 4 the protein is 4 4 the protein is 4 the the the the the the the the the to the the the the the the to to to to to to to to to to to put on muscle? What are you doing? I just want to buff up Rob. You want to lose your belly and buff up a bit? I'd quite like. I'd quite like to just have a stomach you could grate cheese on. Which I then wouldn't be able to eat because it's got too high a fat content. All I really want is I just want to like walk into a room and people go fucking hell you're ripped fuck! Fucking hell you've seen his arm? Fuck! Do you know what? Fucking hell! That's all I want. I just want a bit of what Ramesh has got.

And I don't just mean career-wise, I mean also body-wise. I don't think I want what Joel Domits got. I think it's too much responsibility. God, can't be bothered. But yeah, I am, so you're, you're not really trying to lose weight, you're sort of trying to put it on as much. I am, I am. Because, yeah, but I think, but I don't, I don't, like, you say, you've got to completely eradicate. But if you want to like buff up a bit, you're gonna have to eat more almost to turn it into muscle. No, I'm not, no, no, no, no.

I'm puny, Rob. I just want to. Yeah, but if you don't want to be puny anymore, you're gonna have to, I don't feel like, you could turn all that hard, but if you, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to. I'm. I'm not going to buff up in the way Joel Dormant's buffed up. No, but I'm saying if you want to get bigger and musselia, yeah. I don't think you're going to have to eat more to put that on, aren't you? I think I just want to tone up.

I don't want to tone up a bit. I just want to tone up a bit. I want to feel like I could lift stuff. Right, you want to be stronger? I want to be stronger. Yeah. I just want to feel in really good shape. Fair enough.

Okay, that's good. That's good. I'm just saying they're going to get in on the protein I think it's going to be your you're going to have to get in on the protein yogurts mate. I sat in McDonald's with the kids tell her they didn't eat anything apart from the gurkin. I'll probably did he log it? I logged it. He logged it. Well, I was like, you must log everything. Because you must log everything. How'd you put in, how do you put in, Gurking, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, the, the, the, the, thin, the, thi, thi, thi, th. th. th. thi, thi, the, th. I, th. I, th. I, th. I, th. I, th. Did, th. Did, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the the, the the the the the the the the the the the the the thi, thi, ttoda? today, today, today, today, today, today, today, today, today, thi, thi, the's with a bit of tomato sauce on? Do you know what I did earlier Rob?

Unthinkingly I was making my daughter a crumpet this morning. Oh, lick the butter. I lick the knife, the jam. And I was like surely it's not expected me to log one gram a jam. Yeah, I think you've got to log it. It raises more questions than it answers. What one liquor jam? What's the th? th. th. th. th. th. It's? It's? It's? It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's thi? It's thi? It's thi? It's thi? thi? thi? I's thi? I' thi? I's thi? I'm thin' thi. I's thi. I's thi. I's thi. I's thi. I's thi. I's thi. I's thi. I's thi. I's thi. I's thi. I. I. I. I. I. I. I's thi. I. I. I's thi. I's thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. I's thin. I'm thin. I'm thin. I'm thin. I'm un unthink thin. I'm unthink thin. I'm unthink thin. I'm unthink thin. I's going on with you mate? Why have you had one gramma jam? Can he access all this? Yeah. Oh I normally do is I'm good all week then it gets to a Saturday and I like have normal lunch, normal breakfast and then dinner will be two or three bottles of Moretti and then it just goes silent. Complete radio silence. Until one day. Yeah and then I'd slowly eat start to remember the th th th th th th th th th th th th th th then th then then Yeah and then I'd slowly start trying to remember what I had. I had a lemon cello. What's it? I just got a barcode? I just felt a barcode for it. I just felt lemon cellar code. For me we've got a barcode.

For me we've got an app where you can scan the barcode and it tells you exactly how many calories are in it and then you log it. So, but you do need need the the bar what what what what what what what the the the the the th. th. th. th. to th. the to th. th. to to the to th. the to to th. to to to th. to to to to th. th. th. thi. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the th. th. to to to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. the th. th. the the barcode and it tells you exactly how many calories are in it and then you log it so but you do need the barcode sometimes. It's a fun, do you know what it is Rob? Yeah. I'd say I've got quite a healthy relationship with food generally. Mine's mine's awful. Can I tell you what I'd do Josh? What? Once? Arsenal went one nil down against Brentford. Yeah and without thinking I immediately stood up, walked to the kitchen, open the fridge, and I stood there going, why am I here? You're not hungry, your sad arsenal that are golden. Well, you're lucky you don't support Plymouth, Rob. A bit of fun, bit of fun, we can all enjoy that humor. We'll keep people updated on it.

You haven't got bad, you haven't got a bad relation with food, but do you know what I really enjoy is the nerdy side of this? What, the, there's the structure of it of putting it all in. Yeah, going, oh, well, what I need to do now is I need to have 200 grams of corn with my... Yeah, I still don't understand what you're eating to hit. I can't get a I'm I love chicken and I love eating and I'm sitting at a bowl of it and I cannot eat any more of this. My dinner was quite weird last night. What did you have? So I had my hundred grams of pasta. That's pre-cooking weight. Pre-cooking, pre-cooking weight. Yeah.

Yep. A half-b, yeah, good for you. That seems pretty numb. And then just shove in there 300 grams of cottage cheese that won't make much difference to it. I tell you something wrong. You have it on the solid. What's that? It dominates the bowl.

It's gone. I t It dominates the bowl. It dominates the bowl. I tell you what though, mayonnaise. Kinnel, that is just fat juice. That is all fat. 30 grams of mayo. And somehow 31 grams of fat. Has it more fat than content. Bit like our podcasting away.

Well, good luck Josh on it and I'm going to keep plowing on. We should have a humble promise to the listener that we're not going to become like one of those alpha male podcasts because if you're worried we're going to be all Joe Roganee, we're going to start talking about benching and lifting. No, I don't think we're going to start doing, you know. Josh you just said I'm so puny. Yeah we're not going to start talking about our MMA bounce. No no no no they won't go like that but I think we're just I'm trying to get a healthy relationship with certain exercises and my relationship with food. You know so that's what I'm up to but I'm enjoying it so

I'm not going to go on around about it but it is cheese from the cottage. I'm sure we bring an Al Murray? Oh yes, let's bring on Al Murray. A legend of the comedy scene, you don't need us to intro Al Murray. It's a great episode as you'd expect. Al Murray, hello? Hi! How are you? I'm very well, yes.

I mean, people can't see us, obviously, but they're contrasting backgrounds. So, Rob. the they. they. they. they. they. they. to, Rob. to, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm to. to. to. too. too. too. too. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. to. to Rob, I mean, it's a brick wall. Well, I have got an office I normally do this from, but my schedule today needs me to be at home. So I'm just doing this at home, and I've got a brick wall in my house that it's supposed to be sort of a feature wall, but it's supposed to be sort of a threathoute, theymeat............. It's, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, th. th. tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, thi, thi, to be, tho, to be, tho, to tho, to to tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, thi, to be, to th.............. to, to, to, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too. too. tooooooooooo. tooooooooo. toooo. too, too, too, too, they kids to stop playing wall ball. But you've got loads of instruments. I knew you was into your music Al, but this is, you look like, it's a sort of a creative geniuses studio. There's everything you need.

Well, it's certainly a studio. We can't get too excited about it. Basically, I've got a drum set and it's all set up to record and everything. So you've invented a company that makes them in Stockport, you know, called British Drunk. I have invented a couple of things actually, it's been quite along the way. What did you invent? Oh God, it's so esoteric. So basically if you have a Tom Tom. So on a drum kit, there's the drum that goes the drum that goes to get with your foot, there's a drum that's the one that you hit it's in that's, it's, it's, it's, it's the, it's the, it's th, it's th, it's th, it's th, it's so, it's so, it's so, it's so, it's so, it's so, it's so, it's so, it's so. It's soo, it's soo, it's soo, it's some, it's some, it's some, it's some, it's some, it's some, it's some, it's some, it's some, it's some, it's some, it's some, it's so. It's so, it's so.... It's so, it's so, it's so, it's so, it's so, it's so, it's so, it's so, it's so... It's so, it's so, it's so, it's so, it's so, it's so, it's some, a lot of people, what they do, what are the top dug-a-drum, they put it in a, in a stand, and there were a lot of people complaining about, if you do the stand up too tight, it chokes the sound of the drum and choked, their sound. their thrown. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. th. th. th. th. th. thrug. th. thrown. their, thrown. their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, what their, their, what their, what their, what their, what their, their, what their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, tog, tog, tog, tog, tog, tog, tog, tog, tog, tog, tog, toggue. So. togg. togu. tog, tog, tog, tog, tog, tog, tog, tog, tog, their, their, their, their, their it was my idea, but someone designed it, that you then sit the drum in and it stops it from being choked by the drum and it resonates freely.

It's a whole two seconds of resonance, which matters to a lot of people. Wow, and so you're an inventor, you're a comedian, and inventor with a patent. If you want. Any famous drummers using the... Yes, so Nick O'Macrain from iron maiden, thain, thain, thain, thain, th. th. th. th. th. thiiii, th. th. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, the, thrown, throwne, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thr, thr, thr, thr, thr, thr, thr, th. th. It th. It's, th. It's, th. It's, th. It's, th. It's, th. It's, th. It's, th. It's, th. It's, th. It's, th. It's, the. It's, like, thr. thr. throwneeeean. throwneeean, like, like, like, throwneeeean. throwneeeean, thr from Iron Maiden is one of our. Yes. That's good. Thanks for saying Iron Maiden at the end for me. I didn't know either. And then Joe in the Blossoms and... He's from Stockport, he was one of the first people to join us. And the Royal Marines, Corps of Drum, so we got that sort of thing too. But I mean, British Drum Co is the name the name the name the name the name the name the name the name the name is the name is the name is the name is the name is the name is the name is the name the name is the name the name the name the name the name the name the name the name. the name the br. th. th. th. th. th. th. to to to to to to be to to be to be to be to be to be in to be in b. to be in b. to be. to be. to be. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. tr. tr. tr. tr. tr. tr. tr. tr. tr. true. true. true. true. true. true. true. true. true. true. true. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to mean British Drum Co. is the name of the brand and we've been going about eight years now but it's been a there have been some big events in the world that have made trading quite difficult. Yes, yes. Alan Jing let's put it that way so I don't like to dwell on that no. Almost certain events that maybe your character helped.

Oh no, if there's anyone who's got buyer's remorse out there, more than the of landlord. Yeah, so it's Nico, Joe in Blossoms, Woody from Bastille. Oh, he's sports playing with Algyl. Yeah, I know, he's a great bloke. Mark Richardson who plays with simple minds. Wow. Look at this. Sean in the Manic Street preachers. Sure more. Wow. If you told me, guess how you start you start you to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to their the Manic Street preachers. Sure more? Yeah. Oh, wow. If you told me, guess how you start your podcast of Al Murray. Weeks and weeks until this would have popped up. My choice from the Smiths.

What? My choice from the Smiths? Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Why me? Michael in Cortinas, Moseley and Marillion. mostly and Merillian, all sorts of people. P2 plays for Paul Eaton and Jackie Abbott. Dave Roundtree from Blur? No, not yet. Not yet.

We live in Hope, we chip away. I've got a question for you, which we should have said four minutes ago. Have you got children? Yes. Okay, good. Good. That's good.

Yes, I do. How old are your children? 24, 21 next week and 6. Oh wow! You won't remember this, but I've met one of your children. Your daughter, who presumably now is in her 20s, but at the time we did a photo shoot of like people going up to Edinburgh in about 2011. It was probably my oldest oldest who was born in Edinburgh at the Fringe in 1999. Oh was she? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I had to cancel a show, you know, I mean Christ, immediately inconvenienced by my children. Well Romish's son was born in Edinburgh and of course he did the show. I mean it's a long time ago, it's nearly 25 years ago. So I can't remember the actual sequence of timing, but I remember that I think she was actually born

when I was meant to be on stage, so you know, yeah, yeah. Yeah, because if you come off stage at like seven o'clock, say you've got an early show, and then you've got an early show, and then you're there to morning, theory do the show for now depending on how you value your relationships. What was that like doing Edinburgh when a child is born in the middle of I don't know how it was the last week it was quite handy really because I was getting quite big-headed at that stage and it was a very good way of making me sort of behave myself.

Was that the first baby you had? Yeah so it's the same year I won that what was called the Perrier A Wars. Oh wow! Wow! th! th! th! th! What was a th! What was a th! It was a th, it was a th, it was a th, it was a th, it was a th, it was a th, it was a very th, it was a very a very th th th th th th th th that the first baby you had? Yeah. So it's the same year I won the what's what was called the Perrier Wars? Oh wow! What a week! Yeah, she was born on the Monday, nominated Tuesday. And that was when it was a mega-mega deal to win that then. Oh it's still a big deal, let's not really. that's not really. You're being too modest. Not with Tick Tock. Who did you beat out? I can't remember because I got nominated four times on the truck. Oh yeah and you were the James A cast of your day. Yes I was, yes. Certainly not in Ghostbusters. I bet you can remember who beat you though. Oh, of course you can't. Dylan. theylain in those days, wasn't it? It was fucking incredible.

That's when they were real comedians back there, that's hardcore. Heddy brew. It was a heady brew. It was still a big deal. I'm not going to engage in things aren't as good as they used to be. No, but from a point of view of like exposure and you were you you you you you you you you you th. deal where now it doesn't have as much impact. Yeah, but there was less telly, so swings from out about it. She means more ways on now than there were then.

But yes, so she was born on the Monday end. I remember my mom came up and sort of cooked steak and did all that sort of like rescue stuff, which was really good, you know, helped out. Because my wife, my ex-wife was Australian. So family turned up, such a long time ago. Oh, that is stressful. We go at the fringe and doing your show. Your mom's turned up, then your in-laws are flying him from Australia. Yeah, yeah, but we'd gone home the next week. Oh, fair enough.

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And then- Sorry, Al, did someone come in your office in? Or did you just say, thank you, darling to yourself? My wife just brought it some to the I'm being nice to her because I'm on tour. Round a ghost. How is touring now, because obviously you've grown up kids really, they're like adults, you've got a six-year-old. Yeah. So the lions on tour now must feel extra sweet. Well, what I've done, and I did this last time, we went out the year before last,

a pandemic has changed everything, my attitude to everything. Started washing your hands. I've resent having to toubst touch people now after two years off. And not shaking hands with anyone. Reduced eye contact. I resent having to touch another human being. Reduced eye contact. I resent having to toucest people now after two years off. Well basically I hadn't been at home that long in my life. Yeah 18 months at home essentially 19 months at home I'd not been at home that much and it's completely changed my attitude to everything because I was

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this week but it's maximum to a week so that I'm at home so I have a lot. That's great does that mean your tour is a the the Like you're on like a two-year tour or something? Yeah, but that's all right. It's just like being a circuit comic, but you get all the money. Exactly. But it's also like it's like, it's like, then it's a way of life rather than this, oh God, we've got it. We're on tour. Yeah. they. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. they. they. their. their. to. to. to. to. to. to. their. their. to. to. their. their. their. to. to be their. to be their. their. their. their. the circuit. the circuit. the circuit. the circuit. the circuit. the circuit. the circuit. the circuit. the circuit. the circuit. the circuit. the circuit. the circuit. the circuit. the circuit. the circuit. the circuit. the circuit. the circuit. the circuit. the the the circuit. the the the the the the the the the the the to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. tour. tour. tour. tour. tour. tour. tour. tour. tour. to. to. to. to. to, um, I like the first couple of weeks and, well, the first month, and then you're like the third month, and basically, you just waiting for the doorbell to ring. I used to get into this state where I couldn't organize myself to do anything. Yeah. So, like, you need to buy a car. like, you know, just because I'll have to leave. You know, I'll have to go get in the morning and then I'll have to go. And I won't be able to drive it. But that's just an example of random,

but it means I'm at home. I'm doing, from the're not available to anyone and you can't do anything else and you can't do swinging. Oh that's lovely. That's lovely. So it was the pandemic that made me really change my attitude. And also basically say to my manager, no no no that's what we're going to do rather than me going all right then. Because I'm an all right then. Yeah, yeah. Do you imagine doing that, Rob? Or do you like the Rack and Stack? My tours are similar to that really.

It goes on for ages, but I'm sort of doing like three a week. So it's not like the whole time. And then also within that, I've booked off all the school holidays and filming blocks, because I'm filming with Romesh and stuff like that. So it is, I've got quite a lot of time time time time time time time time time time time time time time time time time time time time time time time time, so it sort of spread, rather than five days a week for like 12 months. I actually blocked the summer out of this, because last year, I did, I did a play last year, which I had not done before. Which is just so much fun, right?

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Oh, my relative was related to him. Not related to him, worked for him. I found that on who One of them was executed. The one that was executed, Roundhead Cavaliers guy. Yeah, I was his son, the sexy one. Oh, yeah. Of course. Can you tell? Big long wig and all that and amazing. So basically that wiped out of a holiday completely. We started rehearsing in June and that finished in October. Oh God, yeah. Almost by out of the year. But that was good because my youngest she would come to the theatre. I bring her to the theatre for my early call or whatever, but a fight call, as they call it, where you have to practice the fight, because we had a fight. Do you have to do that every day? You have to come in every day and do the fight, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you to to to come to come to come, and do to come, and do to come, and do to come, you, to come, and do to come, to come, to come, to come, to come, to come, to come, to come to come to come to come to come to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to come, and to come to come, to come to come, to come to come to come, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the their, their their their their the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the theatera,a an understudy in the fight. They might not know the fight.

Anyway, she'd come in with me and then my wife would pick her up after work, which was nice because I've always really liked my kids properly knowing what I do. Very long time ago, I did some arena shows, which I hated, but we didn't. But that's the thing of having your kids come on stage, come on stage, stand in the middle of the room and understand that you're not just going off having fun or just vanishing, you know, like the way I used to go and sit in my dad's office when it's that thing of them just having an idea. Yeah, totally. And my oldest, Scarlet, she used to, when she was sort of ten, she used to love coming to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, their, their, their, to, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, tha, tha, thin, thin, thin, to, tha, to, tooooomorrha, tha, tha, tha, tha, tha, tha, tha, tha, tha, tha coming to the show and sitting on the sound of skin and she used to love the cursing and yeah being rude and like god daddy's so rude and like wildly out there And then obviously that wore off when she became a teenager but it's sort of it's returns now Has it and they come and watch you on tour? Yeah. Yeah. My kids they come and see me and they come and see me and the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the their their their their their the the their their their their their they's they's they's they's they's they're they're they're they're they're they're their their their their their their their their their the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the their the they. the they. their the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the they. the the they. their their they's they're interested in being creative. Then my willow, my middle ones, she's a singer and she's at film school and she's incredibly creative. So she'll turn up and go, you know, I'm not sure about that bit in the middle there dad, but. And would you take a note? I'd listen, but I'd think, yeah, but then I've got to rewrite the whole thing. thrown the thing, you know. It it it. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. that. that. they. threat. threat. threat. they. threat. threat. threat. they. they. thrown. thrown. they. thin. thrown. thin. thin'. their. their. thin. thin. thin. thin. thin. thin's. thin. th. th. their. their. th. thi. th. thi. th. th. th. th. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. they. they. they. they. th. they. th. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's the jumper isn't you don't want the whole thing to unravel. I don't mind feedback if the fix is quick. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, I'll change the word. Okay, I'll change that one word. Yeah, yeah, I'm not

dropping that subject. I'm sorry. Because obviously with a pub landlord I do a load of like kids these day stuff and they're like, yeah, do you mean us? Little? Little? So I suppose I'm like obviously so in awe of their their their their their their their their their their. their. their. I'm like, their. I'm like, their. I'm like, their. I'm like, their. I'm like obviously so in awe of like your generation of comics I watched on TV at the time. And were you all talking about being parents like because you imagine it's all kind of rock and roll and stuff but were you obviously your good mates with like Harry, Hill and stuff. I mean there'd be a bit of chat about that. I mean I think what's really really interesting is that there are there are or it seems to me. Yeah I there there there there there there there there there there there there there there there there there there there there there there there there there there there there there there there there there there there there there there there there there there there there there there there there there there be there there there there there there there there there there there there there there there there there be there be there be there be there be there be there be there be be there be be be be be be be be be be be be be be be be be be be be be be be be be be be be be be be be be be be be be be be be be be be be be be be be be be be be be be be be be be be be be be be there be there there there there there there there there there there there's be a there's be a to be a to be a to be a to be a to be a that I I'll be a that I'll be a bit a bit a bit a bit a bit a bit a bit a bit a bit a bit a bit there be really, really interesting is that there are many more comedians than there ever were.

Or it seems to me. Yeah, I think there are. There's lots more. So, I can't think it would have been, there would have been someone who talked about being a parent. Now, that would have been their thing, they were like think. Yeah. Because of the way gender roles and all that. Yeah. But yeah, I mean, we there would be you talk about it and you talk about basically there's a Twitter account that says, you know, having kids hasn't stopped us from doing anything we used to do. We still do the same stuff. It's just ruined. On the nose. Yeah, I mean, I think that's what we used to talk about. I mean, the main the the the the the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thin, thin, thin. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the they. the they. the they. they. the they. they. the the th. the the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. to. the. the. the. the. the. the. th. th. th. th that's what we used to talk about.

I mean the main thing is just that if you are out at night, because we're night people, aren't we? Yeah, in essence, yeah, you end up filming and so you end up having your two early mornings and wondering where you went wrong. You know, I did literally get into this business so I didn where they'll get picked up at five every day, I think, can you be fucked? Yeah. You don't even get a proper buzz because you don't, you know, you don't see anyone laughing. No, it's so crowd. So have you ever talked to actors about that where you say, you know it's going well? Yeah, yeah. That was a good bit I think. Yeah, exactly. They said cut. Exactly. And that's what the answer says cut, let's move on. Then I've obviously done it right.

I think, ah, right? Do you feel like you're a different parent? Because you've got these kind of the 20 and 24 and then you've got the six-year-old. Are you a different person and a different parent? Yes, I feel, I mean, I had some material about it in a, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, th, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th., the, the, th., the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the the the the that, the the the the the the the the to the the the the threat, the director, the director, that, that, that, that the show, not this show, the show before, about, I used to do this thing, and somehow I used to get, get to this via Brexit, right? So I had a piece of material about Brexit, they said, but the basic problem with Brexit, it's a thing you can only ever do once, right? So the pub land was basically saying there'll never be another morning, like having a first t's the thing to be sad about right? Like having a first child. So that was the tenuous piece of sinew that connects those. So basically you know, and it is that thing. Your first child, there's coasters, there's t-shirts of their

face. You have your name tattooed on you. the whole. Yeah, the camera roll is all pictures of them. Yeah. The second kid is like, get up. You're all right. The third kid, no photographic evidence of their existence. Fourth, kids are poltergized, right? Objects moving the house, food disappears, you know, all that right? Straightforward idea. But I am now sort of, with two older ones, you're much more in the kind of polter guy zone. Like, yeah. Growing, are you? Okay.

How was it though? Because obviously, you know, there was a big gap between the kids, like your energy levels and stuff like that. Like people always say like if you have a kid's a bit older and stuff, because you're younger when you had your first to, I think it balances itself out. It's a sort of quantity theory of effort. Like, I mean, maybe I'm making less effort because I can make less effort, both ways. You know, I'm able to make less effort because I'm older and more knackered. But also I know I don't need to make it. It's like the two things have sort of sat in balance with each other. Because certainly my first time around, I was very much like, I think I was pretty sort of keen and up in the morning and the first time round,

I think you could expend a lot of energy and a lot of stuff and yeah. And you actually, there's no need, it's all right. Yeah, you can just worry about them non-stop even when they're not with them. And it's just exhausting where you go actually, they've probably got a bit of a cold and the car pole sort it out, but when it's your first when you're like, oh, because we need to tie to the hospital? Oh, God, oh God, yeah, yeah, yeah, but then you go further into that, because my oldest scarlet, she has a, and she won't mind me talking about this. She has a left little. Then you're like, I'm not worrying about a cold or a fever. Yeah. This is like a thing, a thing we actually have to tackle. Then you find yourself caught in the whole loop of like you've got to be bullish and you're going to be aggressive and you've got to

the services to get what you want out of them feeling, generally you're going to those meetings wanting to flip desks over and go, for Christ's sake, why wouldn't you people help and why is everything taking so long and all that sort of thing? And you want to keep their spirits up because we would go to occupational therapy clinics, you know, once every six months and you think, what is the point of any of this and what are we getting out of it? And so that with a first child it feels justified being like over. Yeah, yeah, of course. We're worried about them in a way. But she was amazing.

I remember because she used to wear a splint on her leg to correct her gate and she was sort of three and she's wearing this plastic splint she's sort of hobbling about on it and this this woman says in a shop says oh you know what's up to your legs, sweet, huh? She went, long story. That's amazing. Like, yeah, rock on. You made a good stuff. And so what age did you realize like that something was different or up or whatever? By the time she was one, it was quite clear there was something going on in a muscular and her, because she would present by gripping her hand, her left hand with her thumb between her index finger and her middle finger and her middle finger and holding her arm up. Yeah. So the time she was walking,

she was walking on her left foot on a tiptoe. Right. The muscles are a little spasm. Yeah. And then you go see a doctor, the doctor goes, well I don't know. So they they they they they they they they they they they they they they their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. th. their. th. th. th. their. their. the doctor. th. thi. th. the doctor was. the doctor was. the doctor was. the doctor. And their. And their. And their. And their. And their. And their. And their. And their. And their. And their. And their. And their. And their. And their. And their. And their. And their. And their. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And t. And t. And t. And, too. And, too. And, too. And, too. And, toda. And, today. And, th. And, th. And the send you on to someone else and it all just took ages. And then I think when she was about two and a half, we moved house to a different borough, and then you're like, it's literally snakes and ladders. You're like, oh my God. You've got to start again. But then I've been in the same place ever since, so the care was consistent. But she'll tell you turn 18, you just fall completely off the grid. There is no handover, there is no moment where you go from one set of disability services to another, you just fall off a ledge and you have to find the people yourself and you have to get yourself referred all over again

and basically start again. And very often sort of, Scarletton advocacy for this and all this sort of stuff and written about it and she writes really brilliii in it about it, about how it it made th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, to to to to th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thin, to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to thi. thi, thi, thi, thi, this stuff and written about it and she writes really brilliantly about it, about how it made her feel when she was a kid how she felt different and how that plays out at school and what you know some people bully you and some people take care of you and maybe the fuss thus is as annoying as the bullying because you want to just get on with your life. Yeah. But she said that very often whereas with child disabilities, you know they're the thi-tha th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi, thi. thi. thi. thi. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi. And, thi. And, thi. And, thi. And, thr-and, and thrown, and thrown, and thrown, and throooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooe, and the, there is a thing to take care of you, but then with cerebral paus in particular, people tend to forget the adults have got it. And it's essentially like having had a stroke, but in the third trimester, so she presents with a muscle paralysis, like people have had stroke. Yeah, of course.

If you've had a stroke, the alarm bells go off and theyrown, the radar and I think she's found some of it hard, she's found some of it just like philosophic to deal with but she found that bewildering that there wouldn't be like a moment. Yeah continuing. Yeah it's really kind of strange actually. We just moved house and we went to book on an appointment. We're only like 20 minutes away where we were before and our old GP is like no you've moved too far away at the catchment we're.. the the the their. their. the their. their. the their. the their. the to the the the to to the the the to the to their. to the their. to to their their their to be to be to to to to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be their. their. their. their. their their their their their their their their their their tooe. I. their their their the the te. Ie. I'm their letter to say that you're going to be taken off our books in two weeks time. You're like, oh, okay, all right, so I've been evicted from there. But no list of like, in your new area, where to go. So you're sort of like, okay, we just trying to get one for like a cold, but if you've got, like to say,

a real issue that needs proper treatment, it's and must be a nightmare. Yeah, yeah. Because the other thing we were always conscious of is that the word minor is wrong, because it's not a minor dispers, because it affects everything, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, like it's like it's like it's like it's like it's like it's like it's a thi, like it's a thi, like it's a thi, like it's like it's a to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to that it's like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like it's a the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the thr, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, a the the the to to to to to to to to the the the thethis is the thing, she's always said this, that people don't see it to start with, so they don't see it, so they don't take account of it. And then, and then it's a thing you have to address and introduce. Yeah. That itself could be quite tricky. But that was, you she was 18 really. And we, I'll put my hand up, very, very fortunate that I earned the kind of money where we were able, and the NHS is an amazing thing, and yeah, of course. I'm going to get angry tweets about this,

but we were really fortunate that we were able to, if we had to that if splint to help her hand, but you had to pay for that. Yeah, of course. I had to do that privately. And so I'm aware of the people who couldn't access that, but we would do that. And thank Christ I'm paid too much money to talk shit. Well, that boiled down to me. Yeah, I think my lucky fucking stars. And also that when I came a circuite that the the toe toe toe toe. toe. toe. toeaaaa. toe. toea. toea. toe. thiiiiii, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thoea, thoe. thi, thi, tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. I was that's that that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's th. th. th. th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I was th. I was thi, thi, thi. I was thi. thi. I was toe. I was a too. I was a tooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooe. And, that's that's lucky fucking stars. And also that when I came through as a comic, there was so much work when I was a circuit comedian.

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It's like, we'll drive to bow. We're all be fighting to go back on the circuit. Yeah. is going through it, but as an adult with their first child, that must be an incredibly emotionally kind of draining thing to go through because you're a support, right, for that whole kind of thing. It's tough. I mean, I like to think of myself as a kind of like, all right, keep calm, carry on person. Stiff up a lip. Unless I like to see myself, I may not actually be that, but that's the sort of thing I aspire to, sort of emotionally self-reliance and all that sort of thing. It was the frustrations of it, it's the frustrations of the systems. More in a way than my poor baby. Yeah. It's like, why the fucking hell are we having to do this? Why isn't this easier? thii. thi, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, their their their thi, thi, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their thi, thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. th you'd also think, thank God it's a bigger, a harder problem like a something more difficult to have to deal with, which you see, you see all the time.

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You're one of the OGs. You've been doing your Second World War podcast for years, haven't you? May 2019 we started. Yeah. And we've took you along nicely. And basically what it is, we talk about the Second World War II. to talk. the world war. to to to to to to to to to to world to world world to world world world world to to to to to to world world world world world world world world world world world world world world world to to to to to to to the world to the world the world to the world the world to to to to their. the world. that that that that that that that that that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's. that's that's. that's. that's. that's that's. that. the that. that. their that. th. that. th. th. that. th. that. th. th. their. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the. the. the that's that's the. the. that's th have ways to make you talk, and it's me and James Holland is a brilliant, brilliant historian. I know where this is going. What the lovely kicker to this? And he's a tremendous friend of mine. So basically, we used to meet in the pub. He'd ring me up and I'm in town, I've got to see my publisher Wednesday.

Should we go to the pub, who's a goal hanger who make, and they make the rest of his history, the rest his politics, they make all those, the rest of things. Yeah. He said, he's interested in the, why did he want to do a podcast about it? So we asked Jim who, who should he work with? So anyway, we're ticking over nicely. And it? Because you're obsessed with it, right? I'm really, really interested in it. But I now know that I knew nothing about it. I now know that in relative terms I still know very, very, very little about it. Because it's genuinely a gigantic subject. Because it's a, yeah. He's literally a global event.

Yeah. It's in the title. Exactly. The clues in the name. Luckily it's only six years and it's a sequel so you've got to get up to speed with the first one. That's it. You need to know a bit about the first one. But no, all our whole thing is it starts in September of 39 ends in August of night 45. Anything else isn't interesting. Yeah. We were took in over nicely and the pandemic came and it turned into this. It's very very very very very very very very very very very very very this. It's very th. It's very th. It's very th. It's very th. It's very th. It's very the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the their. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's the the the the the the the ti. It's ti. It's ti. It's tod. It's today. It's today. It's today. It's today. It's today. It's the the today. It's the ti. It's. It's ti. It's very odd, it's suddenly like bloomed. And I started doing audio books of like memoirs that were out of print and stuff like that, because I had time for our listeners. And then we kind of doing a life cost, I think every Monday,

where basically we get pissed and take questions and I've gone and other historians and stuff. Tough though, isn't it? I don't want people think that. One minute think it's me, to me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me, to me, to me, to me, to me, to me, to me, to me, to me, they, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi..... tho. that's, that's, that's, I mean? Like, don't want people thinking that... Oh, I don't want anyone. One minute thinking to me, yacking with a mate about a thing we're interested in it. Then people are emailing in going, who was the best general of the Second World War and then that's arguing about it. I wrote an actual history book last year. See you've totally transitioned into being a historian, not completely.

He's not a virgin so he can't fully be one. Is the other reason why doing two gigs a week is more amenable because I've just signed off on my second history book. So writing those is much, much worse than like harder than any work of it. That's a proper job that. Because it's in black and white and then people can read and go you got that wrong, you're moron. Yeah. Or he's full of shit, there's always talking about. So anyway when we do a festival so we're the thing is with this subject. I know people that are really, really interested in it, but not in a light flag way, the jingo and stick way. They're fascinated by the topic. They're all on the Allies side, correct? Yes, and at our festival, we do not

allow anyone to turn up with any SS crap. Yeah, it's not that sort of thing. And basically. And basically. It's not that sort of thing. Basically, it's a weekend. It's like a literary festival, really. So it's a load of writers, it's panels, it's people discussing stuff. We've got some spitfires coming over at lunchtime. We've got a field full of tanks and then entertainment in the evening. We sort of did a panel show last year, which was quite good fun.

So where is it? A place I to the Second World War? No, not as far as I know, although I imagine Silverston was an airstrip. Yeah. There are lots of air strips on that. You know what? I'm going to have to find that out now. Thanks. But the kicker, which I might be wrong on this, is that James Holland, who you do it with, was asked to recommend a historian to do a general history podcast, a goal..... Is this right? He recommended his brother Tom. Yeah. And now they have the biggest podcast in the world. I know. The rest is history.

I know. And a lot of that came about because they're on holiday together, the brothers Holland. And Jim said, oh, I've got to go record a podcast. And Tom's like what's that's that. What's that. What's that. What's that. What's that. What's that. What's that. What's that. that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's like, like, like, like, like, like, I, I, I, I, I, I, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I. I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I. I, I. I, I, I, I, I. I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I. I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, the. I'm like, the. I'm like, the. the. the. the. the. the. the the. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the, and then he explained that we were making some common out of the advertising whatever and Tom like immediately bought a microphone. And as they say the rest is history. I mean that thing is a juggernaut. It's quite incredible. And they taught it in Australia earlier in the year. I mean you go all over the world. It's extraordinary. It's absolutely amazing. It's a lot easier to do Australia's history though. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's a th. It's a th. It's a the. It's a the the th. It's a the the the the the th. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. I. I th. their their their their their their their their their. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. the. I's. the. the. I. the. the. the. the. the. the. th. the. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. to. t. to. t. to. to. to. to. to. the. th. th. to. th. the world. It's extraordinary. It's absolutely amazing. It's a lot easier to do Australia's history though,

isn't it? Yeah, that's a quick one. I love it and it's all bad. Yeah. Is there anything else you want to promote? I mean, this has been the greatest War II book, the World War II podcast, the World War II festival, you're on tour. Well I mean my in-laws charity would be nice to meet. Well they said it up in memory of their son so. Oh go on, go on now. A thing called Finley's Touch, his name was Finley and he liked practical jokes and stuff, but they also, they had 18 months in hospital hospital so they know what it's like going to Great Or somewhere like that when you got a kid with something really wrong with them.

So they do a hospital survival bag, which has in it books, so we got a load of people to give us books. It's got coffee in it, good coffee, it's got like Wi-Fi voucher. It's got a honking chicken because Finley loved playing with his honky chicken and annoying the nurses. It's got a joke book that he wrote. It's got all this stuff in it. Basically we raise money for that and then we go to Great Ormond Street and I mean there's our hall downstairs is full of these survival bags to go to Gosh later in the week. And we do and our hospital in Brighton as well. Which is pretty cool. And what's really nice is that the listeners to our podcast have like taken this to their heart.

So last year at the History Festival, all the blokes who make model tanks, and I include myself in that because I got back into it when I had nothing to do in the pandemic. The pandemics had such an impact on your life. Yeah. Avalon must be fucking livid. You were touring every night now you're at home making model tanks. What can you do? Doing arenas and now he decides to start home and do tanks. I have got some models with me on the road as well, anyway, if I'm bored. Or to paint them on the road.

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City Awaits. She's called Willow May. When we did the pandemic, she was really into badminton. So it's kind of about like a madman wife who like wants to leave her shitty husband and go back to New York. It's a concept. Wow, amazing. That's quality. You've lived an interesting life, haven't you out. Well you know what I always think the great. The great. The great. The great. The great. The great. The great. The great. The great. The great. The great. The great. The great. The great. The great. The great. the great. the great. the great. the great. the great. the great. the great. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the city. It's the city. It's the city. It's the city. It's the city. It's the city. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the on it. Well, you know what? I always think the great thing about this career, or this life, if you treat you as a career, you might get stuck. But if you tree as a life as a path, who knows what? Yeah. Bring you. You know what I mean? I mean. Years and years ago on my old talk show we did a thing where I ended up singing with Queen right. My wife worked on that. Did she? She was a researcher or an AP on that. She said with the

nicest person she's ever worked for who's in front of the camera including me. That's my problem. Ah. You need to be harsher. I need to be much tougher. Yeah she said you could get away with fucking murder. It was brilliant. I was singing with Queen, we were rehearsing, right? And I sat there with one of the crudy bits, I bet, you know, this is your wildest dream come true. It said, no, not really. It never occurred to me, I would ever get to sing with Queen. Who would ever think that? Yeah. That, just fall up in my nose. Because that is how I came out with the pub-anille character came about by accident. Like, was it part of Harry Hill? Yeah, yeah, yeah. We did a show in Edinburgh and we had to, I had to fill a gap and we special act, where I'd do sound effects.

Oh really? What tanks and spitfires and stuff like that? Guns and spitfires and things, but genuinely? There was a thing at the end of the spitfire where would shove animals into the propeller. It was really bleed. It's a sort of thing you'd come up with when you're 20. Oh, sick as fuck jokes. But the PSLO resistance was a car boot opening, which I will, if you want, I'll do. Yeah, yes, please. So this was it, it would go like this.

Look that, and then. Hang on, I didn't, I couldn't hear that. I don't know if he didn't pick it up on them. I'll tell you what, I'll tell you what, It's not working! It's not working! Oh, do you know what? It's so good. It thinks it's other sound. Yeah, because Zoom cuts out external noises, so it thinks our car boot is actually... You hear this now? No, it's so cutting it out!

It's so weird. It's so good. Have you got, um, local recording time? Yeah, I've got everything here. Because you just done a fucking album Josh. I think you've got quick time. That's it got quick time. No, what's that? Just change the sound mode. Does this work now?

No, that's still going out. What's going on? What's going on? I'm Googling Al- Word as well, really. Did you do it on the Word? I met Nirvana on the Word for Christ's sake. And you were doing car boot and they were doing it smells like teen spirit? Yes, I met Niavahna on the word.

They were nice, they were nice boys. And you were on to do the car boot, you were the machine. and I think I stopped the car boot on the end because I thought that's the funniest bits are all used. He's under this. But what were they like? They were just sort of goofy. Goofy. Goofy. Goughy. Goughy. Goughy. the goofy. the goofy. the goofy and stuff. the goofy and quiet. they. Yeah, God, that's an iconic moment. Punk rock moment, yeah, and I'm just to the corner someone. Carboot Man in the corner. This car boots for Courtney Love. Oh, where I've moved to, I'm near Big In Hill Airpools, I see the Spitfire's going over all the time. Have you been up in one yet? No, I haven't, I haven't. Have the the the the the their have their. Have their. Have their. Have their. Have their. Have their. Have their. Have their. their. their. their. their. their. their. the their. their. their. their. No. their. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the corner. Carbue. Car. Car. Car. Car. Car. Car. Car. Car. Car. Car. Car. Car. Car. Car. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I. Yeah. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. Yeah. Yeah. I'm. I'm. I've. Yeah. Yeah. I've. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I've. Yeah. Yeah. I've. Yeah. I've. Yeah. I've. I've. I've. I've. I've. I've. I've. I've. I've. I've. I've. I've. I've. I've. I've. I've the the times now. Yeah. First time I did it, I sort of blagged it. And it was just a thing with the people who owned it and the whole idea was, you know, I'd

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So it's like it's really weird to start with it. And then you take off and suddenly it's like, oh my god I'm in a spitfire for Christ's the sake. And it was at Duxford's, thii. thir thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. they. thi. they. thi. thi. they. thi. their their their their tha. thea. thea. thea' thea' thea' thea' taxe. taxe. So, taxe. So, so taxe. So, so taxe. So, so taxe. So, so taxe. So, so tta. So, so tta. So, so tta. So, so taxe. So, thea. So, thea. So, thea. So, thea. So, tha. So, tha. So, ta. So, ta. So, ta. ta. ta. So, ta. ta. So, ta. So, ta. So, ta. So, ta. So, ta. was a one of those days with tiny little white fluffy clouds a completely perfect blue sky and I basically we were up for about 10-15 minutes completely boggle the get out and the minute I get out the plane but like puts a mic in my face it goes what was that like do you look up I don't know I'm overwhelmed I'm overwhelmed I'm overwhelmed it's also the thing you know when you're eight you think oh one day I mean it wouldn't be great to go on to Spitfire and you actually do it and you're like ah fuck like what do I even think about this? Oh God. I'm not super into the war and into it like but when I moved into still now and they go over a lot and I'm not they're still they're mesmerizing and I'm not into it but they're like they're so low

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it was for a program I was being filmed. So it's that thing of, we're flying along, and you've been giving your lines to do. Yeah. So again, I'm up in a spit-froper. I'm not complaining here, right? But you sat there and the pilot's going, oh, we're just going to turn left here or whatever. Yeah, yeah, okay, fine. I've got to do my lines and they go, in 1942, and they go, I've got it this program called Why Does Everyone Hate the English, the director's big ideas that I would parachute into Germany for that. So, right. Do you have either be parachuted, Duntana? No, no, I couldn't deal with that. But again,

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Award, car boots. Oh, oh The car boot. Try it once more. No, it goes silent. It goes silent every time. It's like weird. Wait, wait. Does this work? Can you give us some sound of us? I'll do a car boot opening for you if you want? Yeah, I want to hear this? Goes like this? It goes like this. Just about hearing. Yeah. One final question out., we always leave on. The one thing your partner does, parenting wise, that really annoys you, and if she were to listen, she'd go fair enough. And what's the one thing she does, we go, ah, she's an amazing parent. I'm so lucky to have a child. Well, they're the same thing, taking my daughter to swimming. She's amazing for doing that. And it shames me for the identical the identical the identical the identical the identical. the the to to the to to the to the to the to be. to be. the to swimming. She's amazing for doing that and I admire her so much and it shames me for not doing it. The amount to the identical you know the reciprocal

bearing of each other. It's horrible though and it's sat in a swimming pool. I can't bear it. The worst. So very and there's a video screen you're meant to sit and like what? Come on. I don't like swimming myself so it really feels it feels like a full board chore. Yeah but she recognizes it, she makes it happen, my daughter's really taking to it and so on and so forth and it shames me so it's the they're the same thing. You know what I really hope your daughter goes on and represents GB in the Olympics and you'll be sat there with your wife and everyone will know he didn't want to be there then and he still doesn't want to be there now. And you know what if that were to happen if she won a gold medal

I'll be like oh god sake. We're gonna pool again have we? Cheers that has been amazing thank you so much to total pleasure thanks boys Cheers, man. Good luck with the festival. Al Murray. Enjoyed that one there, Josh. Yeah, really fun. Oh, it's just another great one, Rob. He loves war.

He loves war. I just think, how can you talk about something where there's no more new news? It's just such a deep complex topic. I don't know. Yeah, I suppose even if you're doing history, at least history is going forward. Liz Trust is now history, if that makes sense. Yeah, but not war history. History. Yeah, lettuce history. Yeah, lettuce history.

There might be a third world war. No, I enjoyed it. Al Murray. Go to the interested in all those things yeah good luck to you and I'm drumming drumming drumming if you are the one person that has purchased every one of Al Murray's Avenues let me know because I don't think there's maybe no comedy in history bit but the drum is what's really gonna separate yeah yeah Murray it's exactly do write in if you've bought everything ourm Murray's ever done. I'm an Al Murray completist. Yes, let us know. Right, I'll see you next time, John. Soon Tuesday. Bye.