Parenting Hell with Rob Beckett and Josh Widdicombe - S8 EP48: Oti Mabuse

Episode Date: June 21, 2024

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Hello, I'm Rob Beckett. Hello, I'm Josh Winnockham. Welcome to Parenting Hell, the show in which Josh and I discuss what it's really like to be a parent, which I would say can be a little tricky. So, to make ourselves and hopefully you feel better about the trials and tribulations of modern-day parenting, each week we're chatting to a famous parent about how they're coping. Or hopefully how they're not coping. And we'll also be hearing from you the listener with your tips, advice and of course, tales of parenting woe. Because let's be honest, there are plenty of times where none of us know what we're doing.

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Hello, sexy and relatable slags. This is my two and a half year old son, Jack, finding your, as finding it hilarious saying your names. He's called Jambo in the, uh... Jack, Jambo Jack. Yeah, he does not mention in the email, but it's mentioned in the subject. Just like Jack or Jambi. Originally from Lancashire, we now live in Kenya. They're from Lancashire. We moved here from Hackney, near the park where Josh had the standoff

with the squirrel, don't you remember that? For a six-month adventure while I was on maternity leave, as my husband works remotely. That was the the the theto return yet and we're now expecting baby number three in November. Wow because Jambo the spoke about Jambos once used as a greeted among traders of the Swahili coast of South East Africa similar to the English word hello so I don't know if she's saying he's called Jambo or she's just saying oh is it is she saying hello from Kenya So what did she write? Jambo from Kenya. Yes, I think that's hello from Kenya. How are you?

Not too bad actually. Pretty good. Oh, sorry about it. I'm just shaking. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

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Now I'm all good. I'm a... How's the dyslexia? Still going? Still going, still going, still going strong. Got sent a report. Oh yeah. And I'm starting to do so. I actually didn't stand up about the dyslexia thing, getting diagnosed and my reaction to it and stuff, the, thia, thia, thia, thia, thia, thia, thia, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, to thi, to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to too, thi, to to to to to too, to to to to to to to to to to to too, too, too, too, too, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi.a, thi.a, thi.a, thi. thi. thi. tooooooooo. too. too. too. too. too. too, thi. thi. thi getting diagnosed and my reaction to it and stuff like that. And this is getting quite a big laugh, but they send you basically a 25-page written report.

Now, I don't want to start beef with the old dyslexics off the bat after a recent diagnosis. I don't want to be like this might a villain's story where I turn against the guys. However, if you've just told someone that they struggle to retain and take to retain information to retain information to retain information their their their their their their their their their their their they struggled to retain and taking information. Is it like a fully typed 25 page? Oh yeah, I've not even, I looked, I opened it and immediately closed it. News Reddit and she's going to highlight it for me and give it to me. What they should do Rob is it should send you 25 pages of just random letters on pages to really freak you out. Really fuck me out. Oh God, it's got worse. Oh no! But you know, yeah it's all good, but cracking on with that.

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custern when you were kids they just serve up like I was going off quick get it in quick fuck care now anyway this is sleep over advice from no I've got time Rob no let's do this one from Louise. Different, Louise. Hello, Rob and Josh. I have just listened to your episode about your children going on sleepovers. I feel you're paying Josh. My daughter always desperately wanted to go on sleepovers

but just couldn't bring herself to she's 13 now but can't manage sleepovers due to her needing her own bed and time on her own. Your daughter sounds like she got used to you holding her but this can be resolved by sending her to sleepovers with a weighted blanket. Don't use it at home, keep it for sleepovers or when she needs to sleep alone because of the heaviness it will give her the feeling of being held. I hope this helps give it a try. I'd like a weighted blanket Rob. I think some th th is th is th is th is th is th is th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th thi thi. I'll thi. I'll thoom. I'll thoom. I'll thi. I'll thiol-a. I'll tho-a. I'll tho-a. I'll tho-a. I'll tho-a. I'll tho-a. I'll thi, I'll thi. I'll thi. I'll thi. I'll thi. I'll thi. I'll th. I'll th. I'll th. I'll th. I'll th. I'll th. I'll th. I'll thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thioli. thooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooe. thoooe. try. I'd like a weighted blanket Rob. I think some of this advice is aimed at you more so than your child. Sometimes.

When Rose is away, get yourself a little weighted blanket. Oh God, last night, because Rose is away at the moment. Also, humble brag from Louise. What was Rose? Sorry? Cornwall? Yeah. I don't like this actually. Just turn me off Louise a little bit give it a try keeping sexy funny relatable as you get me through a 10k run twice a week no one likes a fucking show off Louise keep it to yourself Louisa I'm just trying to choke I'm just trying to choke down a chocolate and peanut butter

fucking protein shake him they put on half a kilo last week because I couldn't run because of my fucking ankle so they're a try to a to the the the the the the the the the the the the the to to run run run run run run run run run run run run run run run to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to keep a to keep a to keep a to keep a to to keep a to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the try. the the the the the the the the TV. Oh Rishie, Richie shut up. Stop talking Rishie. Oty Mabusi, absolute national treasure, legend. Absolutely love her. Oh yes, it was a good one. Love Hoty. Please welcome to the show Oty Mabuse. Oty. We've been wanting you on for ages. We've finally made it happen, thank you. Oh no, thank you for having me. You can want me for ages. Oh my God, I love it. Yeah, we have for us as well because you know you've recently had a baby. So when we see people that we've met in the industry that are fun that we really like and they have a baby like, this is great. Yeah, this is a perfect guest. Finally. I think all the funness has disappeared because I'm so overstimulated. So, I make jokes about it, you're not funny and you know that.

I've met you a few times and you are a really lively, energetic, positive person. That is the opposite of how I was for the first kind of year of having a baby. Have you managed to bring your personality into motherhood? I have. I have to, first of all, because I'm one of those parents who's like a no-screen parent, so I don't let her on any screen. So it's basically me, every day trying to get her to nap and entertain her. Right. So I'm dancing, just entertain her, or I'm singing and she's laughing at me. But I'm actually spending all time just trying to entertain her.

So I have to be on it. I think also as a mom, you kind of just take that super mom role on anyway. And dad's my husband's, why would you do that? And I'm like, just do it. Just clap. So how old are your daughter? She's, oh, she's seven months tomorrow. She's seven months. Oh wow, seven months.

She was born premature. Was it six weeks premature? Yes, six the's mature. So do you do that thing where you go, well actually she's only six months because she, you know. Yeah, but you have to. So it's called like a corrected age so yeah six months now the milestones that she'll be reaching are over four months old yes of course so like end to

role she'll do that now and so they have a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of developmental delays until they get to about two three and then they catch up and then it levels out right usually premature kids are also quite small but my my daughter has caught up way twice because she's like yeah I'm here. She loves the food. So how much did she weigh when she was first born? She weighed 1.5 kilograms. What's that 3 pounds? Yeah. Bliming. Oh my gosh. But she's caught up? Now she's 8.5. A kilogram so pounds? I was like I wouldn't say that's caught up. I wouldn't say that's it. I was I was I was I was I was like. I was like. I was like. I was like. I was like. I was like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like. I was like. I was like like. I was like. I was like. I was like. I was like. I was like. I was like like. I was like. I was like like. I was like. I was like like like like like like like. I was like like like. I was like. I was like. I was like that's like that's like. I was like. I was like. I was like. I was like. I was like that that that that that that that that that that that that that that. I was like. I was like. I was like. I was. I was. I was. I was like. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was like. I was. I was. I was like. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I'm. I'm. I was. I was. I was. I was like. I was. I was like. I was. I was. I was like. I was like. I was. I was like. I was. I was like. I was. I was. I wasy. Oh my gosh. Yeah. But she's caught up. Now she's 8.5. A kilogram, so pounds. I was like, I wouldn't say that's caught up.

A 7 month of a pounder. 8 kilos. Right, I've got you. And you're dancing for her. Can you feel she's got it in the jeans yet? Because obviously she's from a dance royalty? I'm dancing for her but I don't want her to be a dancer. I'm just doing it for entertainment purposes. Watch as to be like this is the career that I want you to go into. So if she starts dancing I'm like no, we're going to math class. And you said you're a no screen parent. Yes. So obviously she's still quite young. When is a screen allowed or or is it never? Or are you gonna see how it goes? I think I just want to stimulate her imagination for a little bit, for her to develop her own thoughts, for her develop her own way of thinking,

to see colors in real life and then be more fascinating than the colors that she sees on screen. Yeah. So I got two more years of. So fair enough, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, so to to to to to th th th th th th th th th th th th th th is th thi thi thi thi thi. thi. thi. thi's thi's thoes she's thi. thi's thoes, thoes, thoes, thoomoomoomoomoes, their their their their their their their their their their their their to their their their their their their thoes, their thoes, tho. tho. tho. tho. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. to to be just just just just just just, toooooooooooomorrow, toooomorrow, tooomorrow, tooomorrow, tooomorrow, tooomorrow, tooomorrow, to be two more years of So about two fair enough. Oh, yes, it's not like a no scream forever just as she's little No, just until she can find other things more entertaining than television I don't just want to feed her that and then do my own thing. I kind of just want to be with her. Yeah. I say I don't know what her dad is doing. Her dad might be making her watch making her watch. Oh really? Yeah.

You might be watching EastEnders with her and I'm not sure. So how are you juggling the work load then? Because you're back into work and you're working full-time. How you splitting the parenting with dad? What's the setup? Yeah, so we do it just the two of us really. We don't have a nanny. So we kind of plan two weeks.

Where he's working I'm at home. If I'm at home then he's working. So at the moment I'm at the watermill and I'm there for about seven weeks. Yeah. But it's an hour and a half drive. And that's a theater you're not doing a shift on the movie. No. The watermill theater, yeah. So when I'm home then can go to work, or I just travel every day so that she can stay home. Right. It's really, really hard, but for some reason we just try to do it this way. And then over the weekends when we're at the dog school, there are loads of dance moms, they're around, and they all just want to take care of her. So they all just want to take care of us. Oh, just pass her around. Yes, yes, they all love to take care of her so we just leave them with the moms. And so with like when you're working, because that's straight back in, are you enjoying being back to work? Yeah, I mean

I went back after eight weeks. Oh wow. So that's two considering she's premature. Yeah, but we have to let's just all be honest. When we say we're working, it's a completely different aspect to real people who are working, for service. So for me to say, oh, I'm going to work is me to get my hair done, my makeup done, be put in a pretty dress, and then tell people how much I love them for an hour, and then go back to my baby. And when she was with me the whole time. So she was right there with me, with my husband, but she was always with me.

And I think as a new mom, you can be so much into your own child that you forget to sometimes come out and breathe for air. And I found that just that one day or two days a week of actually separating a little bit. I got to get myself a little bit of space of air. I felt like myself back again and then once I leave the environment I can go back and I'm looking forward to being with my baby. I miss my baby. I want to play with her. So I got the best of both both worlds and I was able to manage it also because my dad, my husband is a really good dad. I got horrible Freudian sleep there. That's terrible. That's awful. My dad was also there actually taking care. So I had my mom overhelping

and then I had my dad over helping, then I had his mom and he's dead. Oh, so you got the support. Oh wow. Yeah, for the last few months. And thinks, th. Get th. Get th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. that's th. that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, so you got the support. Oh wow. Yeah, for the first few months. And then I was like, get out of the house. Well, I read somewhere that you want as many children as you can possibly have. Is that taking out of context or do you just want a massive family? No, I want as many children as I can possibly afford. A fool. They're not cheap. They're pays well. You could have a that 10. No, also I love traveling. I love being on holiday and I figure if there's three of them, there's more them than there is us.

Yes. I don't get a hold on that, you know, when we're flying. Let's say we're flying. I don't want of us to be separate from the kids. So it has to make sense. How many bedrooms in the house can you get? Hotel rooms, stuff like that. The car, now must I get a mommy van? I want a mom to tell mom.

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Do you feel a bit outside it then, being the youngest? They would fight and you were like sport baby. Was that how it was or not? It was more like I would just watch the things then 20 years later, she's judging you on live television. She's scoring you. Oh God. Payback. All the payback was saying she's not the Beyonce of the family, yeah.

What was it like when your sister was the judge? Was that a weird situation? No, not at all, because we had done it in Germany before. So I came from strictly Germany. That's where I kind of saw me and she was already a judge 10 years before I started in Germany. So she's been doing it for years. And when we did it, we were very aware that, listen, you're not judging me, you're judging the pro, but you're just judging how well I make the pro.

And I'm not those kind of pros, or I wasn't that kind of pros that there is in denial. I know the level of my celebs. So if somebody says it's a six, I probably agree. Yeah. My job is just not to take that personally, but to get them to return. So even to score as low, it was like, fine, understandable. thin' the their their their their their their their th understandable, let me just work. Is your greatest achievement on that show getting Bill Bailey such high scores? And tour ticket sales, by the way.

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and then they just teach them a group number. Oh God. So well, my was fun. He loved to dance. He was making the group laugh, but he also wasn't, he wasn't like a clown. He wasn't a class clown. He could sit on his own and think about things and he was asking them about the history of stuff. He was asking them personal questions. So they knew that he was intelligent. Yeah. And he knew music because he plays all the instruments. Yeah. They really, really did love him. They really did love him. They. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He was, th. He was, he. He was, he. He was, he. He was th. He was th. He was th. He was th. He was th. He was th. He was th. He was th. He was th. He was th. He was th. He was th. He was th. He was th. He was th. He was th. He was th. He was th. He was th. He was th. He was th. He was th. He was th. He was th. He was. He was th. He was. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He was th. He was th. He was th. He was th. He was th. He was th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. th. thi. thi. thi. th. thi. th. th. th. did love him. So from the get-go, they were like, look, it's Bill Bailey. He's fun, but you will love him because he's super intelligent, is inquisitive like you and you'll have good conversation and a good- Yeah, they knew that he could dance a bit as well then from the beginning. Like move, yeah, move. Move, yeah. But you really polished him up. me, it's really not all me. No one does it on their own. No one never does it on their own.

He worked. The one thing that you have to do when you're on this show is invest your time. And it's a big sacrifice. But like you say, he's in arenas now. It's a big sacrifice. So once you say, OK, I'm just sacrificing three months. What is three months? Really? It's three months of giving my best from beginning to end and And you reap what you so? So how do you deal with someone that's only really doing it for a bit of money and a bit of fame

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come in because for me as a professional dancer, I always found that this was the goal, right? For all professionals, whether you're competing or you're doing shows or ships or you're dancing at gigs strictly as a dancer is our goal. And celebs, it's their step up. So they give as much as where they want to end up. If it's like I gain nothing from this, then they don't have to give a lot, then you have to, as a professional,

adjust your ambition level to match theirs. That's the only thing that causes the less frustration. And you say you're quite a kind of, well not quite, you say you're a very competitive person. It's not like you, Judge, don't even pretend like that. I know, I remember you beating me in Blockbusters. Yeah, you're asking me like you, like I'm... Oh, it's old beef. Is it old beef? No, it's not old beef.

No, it's not old. You got done reallyence of Stacey Dooley, but it's hardly like she stood there with like, you know, Professor Brian Cox. She did really well, Stacey, she's bloody won. So what, it was Oty and Stacey together against you? I think so, wasn't it? Yeah. Yes, and why? She's so clever, Stacey as well. She is. She thrashed me.

And you, nobody knew you were like, my question is, are you going to be a competitive mom? Ooh, that I can't. That is my limit. That is my limit. I think, do you know what, I'm a very competitive auntie. Right. So my nieces are into football, swimming, gymnastics, and I'm constantly being like, let's go, let's go, let's go, and I feel like with my daughter I'm like the nice parent. I'm like, no. So you think your personality is going to completely change when you're dealing with your own child? That's your partner. 100%. So you're really competitive and you're competitive with all the other children

that are in your life but the one in your ass you won't be. What's? Like, no, we're not doing that. And I'm scared that she'll just one day say to me, I don't think this work thing is for me. I don't want to work. I don't want to do anything. That is like, I'm genuinely scared. YouTube but because listen I've tried filming my own content it's a lot of work. It's an art YouTube is an art. Big up angry Ginger. Your director you're a manager you're a producer you're an editor you're the entertain everything is

one person but if she said I just want to sit at home and be and live that would be my biggest biggest worry don't panic she's seven months is she doing a lot of that at the moment and you're going she's not doing any work she's just sitting around and making me dance and make her laugh no get up and go it's just milk and rolls rolling rolling that's it this is worse than that guy I had who I got to blackpool but he was only doing two hours a day I'm gonna go through his old partners and work that out by your chair you can you can't I literally can't I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th that I that they they they they they they they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they to to to to to th can't to to to th can can't to to the the to to to the they're they're they're they're they're they work that out by your chair. You can't. Well, I can. I literally can. I'm doing it right now. I can do it. I can actually do it.

Is part of your competitive thing because you are 10 years younger than Motsie and you've gone into the same thing, right? That's a big thing for two siblings to do, right? Oh, three actually. My sister did strictly South Africa as well. Oh really? Yeah, so all three of us were part of some sort of strictly. And were you ever on it the same, were you in South Africa or did you go straight to Germany? Well, I went straight to Germany in the UK. Mutis died in Germany and my other assistant, just South Africa. But I think all three of us, actually all five of us, the whole family, is extremely competitive. Yeah. And it stems from not even just dancing. Dancing is the one thing that we actually do as a family that brings us together, that we motivate

each other, we do tick-talks, it's fun, we're not competing in that way. Even else. Scrabble is not Scrabble for us, it's like the gladiators, we're taking all our instrument, this is war, like Christmas games are so intense. We don't play them anymore because somebody loses, we don't talk to each other for three days. Like sports, whose team are you in? Someone is Arsenal, someone is United, somebody else is Chelsea. Like everything else is competitive. So where does that come from your parents competitive? Like it comes from my mom pushing. And was she competitive with you or just her nieces and nephews? Not with other moms.

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It just means we're driving innovation. If you're trying to outdo somebody else, you just always constantly have to, not even think out of the box, you just have to remove the box and think. That was what my friends always used to say. Try your best in your own ways by being the best. By going, I want to innovate by doing rapper's delight, holding a newspaper with Bill Bailey. That's what I want to do. There the the their their their th. I want th. I want th. I want th. I want th. I th. I th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. to th. th. th. to th. th. thi thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, to to to to thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi, thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi means means means means means thi. thi. thi means thi means thi means thi means thin, thi means thin, thin, thi means thi means thi means thi means thi means to to thi. thi. thi.'s what I want to do. There is no box. That honestly was Bill's idea. Bill submitted a whole list of songs and things that he really loved and wanted to dance to and that was his whole idea and we didn't want to do like the

cliche, uh, hip-hop and they were like, oh let's die and out. So all of thattell it out. So all of that was Bill. Oh my god I would be awful if I did straight now I'd be so against my will I'd look like I've been to take an hostage. Strange hostage situation where they made you do the false truck. But look at Chris Ramsey, Chris was amazing and I think Chris was one of those people who are like I don't know why I'm here. I's they they they they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's their. I'm they's they's they's they're they're they're to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to me. I'd that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's they they they they they they they they they're they're they're they're they're they're to to to their. I their. I their to their to took. I took. I took. I took. I took. I took. I'd to true. I'd to to to to to to that's that's that's that of those people who are like, I don't know why I'm here. I don't know how I'm here. I know why he's there, ticket sales. It's got a tour on the go. That's just before the podcast really took off. He's in arenas.

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Yeah, it's a housewife's choice. You know what I mean? It's about your face because strictly on its own as a show, irrespective of judges, presenters or dances, has its own core fan base as well. Yeah. And that core fan base either love you or they reject you. Yeah. It has a lot also do with your own personality, how likable you come across. This is all sounding bad. So if people can feel anything, even if it's emotion, even if it's angry towards you, even if it's sadness, even if it's pity, they can feel something for you. The pity vote? Yeah, they would be like, oh, bless him, you're so nervous, he's so shy.

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But I'm gonna get her back into it. I have my whole routine, I know I'm gonna get her back into it. Talks through the routine. What's the routine? Oh, it's basically sticking to my schedule and doing what I say. Even for my husband, let's say she works about 830. Then I give her immediately her morning feed and I don't play overlays, so I don't overstimulate her.

Because I make about 8.30, she'll be in bed at 9.30 again. And then she'll nap for two hours. And then that's two hours from 11. 11.30, I'll play with her when she wakes up, instead of feeding her. We'll play, we'll play and then when she gets hungry I feed her then I know she's back in bed by 1.30 maybe 2. Is this 830 at night? No in the morning? 830. Wakes up. Goes to bed 9.30. Yeah. Goes to bed 1. Okay. Plains. Sleeps again at about 3, 3, 30. This feels like too much sleep, this and she's sleeping a night as well.

It is like non-stop sleeping. Yeah, yeah. You forget, Rob, with kids that are really young, because she's also essentially four months, or essentially five months. Yes, of course. So it is just a lot of sleeping and then she wakes up for like two hours and then from three, she'll stay a little up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up to a little to a little to to to to to two hours and then from three to stay a little bit up until about six. Yeah. Then I slow down. I start to do the bed, then the bath, then I'm not playing as much anymore. It's more rocking, then I give her her

last feet at about seven, then again she's just up. Either I'm dancing or I'm rocking. And then about 8.30, nine she's out. And then then she was she was she was she was she was she was, and then she was, and then she was, and then she was, and then she was, and then she was, and then she was, and then she was, and then she was, she was, she was, she was, she was, she was, she was, she was, she was, she was, she was the the the the th, she was th, she was th, I'm dancing or I'm rocking and then about 8309 she's out and then she was then just sleep until like 839 but recently she keeps waking up at 2 a.m. and playing and looking at us are going to go ah well that's the thing because as they get older they need less sleep and stuff like that but it's working out where to trim it back. Yeah. Whether it's in the day or going to bed later or earlier or whatever so oh God. Yeah that is a beautiful routine that 12 hours 9 till 9 9. If I overstimulate her during the day if it's too much if she's too much then she won't sleep at night like if it's too much energy exhaustion if it's just too excited, then she won't sleep at night. But I do want her to get tired and sleep.

I have to find that balance, yeah. And when you're away working, is your husband on the exact same schedule? A hundred. Wow, that's really a better word than regime. You've chosen a better. It's a German side of human regime, yes. You get to learn it because I think it's difficult a lot of times for dads. A lot of the stuff for us, it might come a little bit natural for some women, not all women,

but he had to learn it. So I had to sit him down and he's got it on his phone and I had to tell him what to do and when to do it. But the playtime and all that, the play the play to play to play to play time to play time, to to to to to to to do, to do, to to do, their, to do, to their, to to their, to the play, the play, to to the play, to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to do, to do, to do, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, the all up to him, how he plays with them. Yeah, but it's the timings, yeah. The schedules, the schedule is the schedule. The regime's the regime, guys. We don't move from that. And so when she's not asleep, or when she is asleep, we panic a little bit, but yeah, we stick to the schedule. And he's really good. He's the the to to to to to to the to to the to the to the the the to the the the schedule, the schedule, the schedule, the schedule, the schedule, th. the schedule, the schedule, th. thi. thi. thi. thi. the schedule, the schedule. the schedule. the schedule. the schedule, the schedule, the schedule, the schedule, the schedule, the schedule, the schedule, the schedule, the schedule, the schedule. the schedule. the schedule. the schedule. the schedule. the schedule. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. the th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thin. thin. thin. thin. th together. th together. together. together. together. together, together, together, together. together. together. together. threat.? Yeah. And does she get to sleep at those times? Because I used to find we'd try and do a schedule,

and then my daughter would just go, well I'm not going to sleep now. And suddenly, it's over. No, she goes to bed. He would have tied her out as well. The thing about keeping it quiet, that's the really, because if you hear something, she's up. So I'm also teaching her right now to start sleeping in her own room. So during the day she naps in her own room, which is dark and it's quiet and that's the only thing.

But she goes down fine then for a nap. This is why I brag. Do you see? You have to think about it. I think I gz myself so now I really have to be humble and swallow this joy. I got an angel. I think it's fair though because it is like you normally just hear the horror stories but then you know and it makes people feel better if they're having a bad time but then if they're are expectant parents isn't it's like oh you can have one that just sleeps. Yeah Because I think though when people go I've got one that sleeps, you can either go like, oh maybe that's because what I'm doing, or you might just be lucky because you've got one that sleeps kind of thing. So it can go either way,

but I think people beat themselves up going, well maybe it's because I've not got that schedule, but then that schedule and that schedule when I work for another baby. It's a bit of a lottery, where one of my daughters will sleep the thapapapapapapapapapap an th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. th th th th th th th th th th th th th th thi. It can can can th. It can th. It can th. It can th. It can th. It can th. th. th. th. th. It can th. It can th. It can th. It th. It th. People th. People th. People th. People th. th. th. th. th. th. People thi. the. the the the the that that that that that that that that thee that that that that that thi. I thi. But if you've got a schedule that works. Yeah, I think also it is a child, and with parenting, that's why I really try not to give advice to other parents as well. That's the worst thing, because I hate getting unsolicited advice. Just shut up, I didn't ask you. But I think I don't advise other parents because every single child is so individual, every single parent and circumstance is also so individual, you have to do what works for you. This works for us because I work

a certain period and then my husband doesn't and but if we were both working at the same time, it will be completely different. Yeah, what did your husband do? He's a dance as well? Yeah, so the hours are a bit more flexi. Yes. So he would start working from from about three o'clock until 10? to? to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the to the the the to their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their work, their work, their work their work their work their work their work, their work, their their work, their their their their their their their their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, th. Wea. Wea. Wea. I, te. Wea. Wea. I-o. I-o. Wea. I-a.e.e. Wea. I-a.e. I-a. I-a. I-a. I-a. I as well. Yeah, so the hours are a bit more flexi. Yes. So he would start working from about 3 o'clock until 10 in the evening where I would be done by then. And as someone who's spent your whole kind of, well I don't know when you started dancing, but presumably since six or whatever you've been kind of physically done, how was pregnancy for you because presumably that's the first time you've had to to ease up on dancing and stuff th stuff th dancing and stuff th stuff th stuff th stuff th dancing and stuff th something th. th. th. th th. th. th. th thi thi thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to th. to th. th. to th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the the. the. the. the. toe. toe. toe. to to to to the's the first time you've had to ease up on dancing and stuff like that. How did it work with dancing?

I did, you know, I didn't ease up. And I think with the next baby, I definitely will be like, I'm taking nine months off. Yeah. I didn't ease up at all. And I loved being pregnant. I think as a woman, especially in the public eye, you, you, you, you, you, you, I, I, I, I, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, I, the, the, the, the, the, the, tho, tho, tho, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, thean, thean... thean. toooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo, the, th as a woman, especially in the public eye, you get so, well I get trolled so much about weight gain. You know, people knew me when I was 24 and I was dancing on strictly and I was super, super skinny. And obviously through the years I left and then you put on weight and you went up on another show so I got trolled a lot for my weight. And when I felt

pregnant, my body became something else. It became this beautiful instrument that created life. The size of my boobs and the size of my hips and the size of my bum were there now for a purpose. And I love that feeling. I love the feeling that I don't need to stick my belly in all the time. I love human being inside there. And so that process process process process process process process process process process process process process process process process process process process process process process process process process process process process process process that process the process the process the process the process the process the process the process the process the the the the the the the the th, th, th, th, th, th. th. th. the the whole th. tho th. tho th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the th. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. th. th. I th. I th. I th. I so I so I so I so I so I sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo. the. the. the. th. th. So I time. I love a human being inside there. And so that process of how I felt about myself

kind of made the whole period really nice. But I didn't enjoy the waking up, exhausted. Like I'm like, whoa, I feel like I just ran a marathon. And I just woke up. All of that was just a lot. And the hormones, the crying, the watching like your dog run really fast and being like... Like it's... Dog running fast? Yeah you can't control how you feel. That I found really, really

stimulating like I was like, this is a lot and my husband as well because he's so used to me being like like, okay let's go, let's do this, let's do this. Let's do this. But pregnancy I was like, no, I just want to sit here like like like like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this is like, this is like, this is like, this so used to me being like, okay, let's go, let's do this, let's do this. But pregnancy, I was like, no, I just want to sit here and do nothing. And he would be like, what? This is not you when I'm like, yeah, but it was a baby, it was a lot. And so were you dancing, how close to the birth? I mean, strictly I still choreographed on the show, the show, the show, the show, the show, the show, the show, the showto the birth. I mean, I'm strictly, I still choreographed on the show. So my number came out on that Saturday and then I gave birth on like the Wednesday.

And I was still doing dance classes. I was still teaching. I think I was, where was I coming from? I think I was watching the rugby world cup and we won and I might have celebrated. I was still very much active. I was still teaching, I was still dancing, I was doing dance classes, I was in the dance classes until the very end. Oh wow. And you say we won the Rugby World Cup? We did. Yeah, no, I don't deny that you did. It happened. Is your child going to be British brought up in Britain?

That's a big, big question. Wow. So, she is born here. Yeah. Sorry, is your husband from here or is he? No, he's Romanian. It's a real mix here, okay? Real, real mix of cultures and languages. I think I'm very proud of who I am and I know country's history and I think South Africa

has a real rich history of language of dance and I went to teach her all of it and we go to South Africa like twice a year and I want her to learn my language. I also want her to learn my husband's culture. She needs to learn about the Euro96 team that died all their hair yellow, that kind of stuff. And Petrescu. He needs to know that Romania went against South Africa and the rugby and lost 41-0. She needs to know all of these days. But I never want her to wonder where she came from and to wonder where her parents come from, especially being mixed race because I want her to get the best of both worlds. And now, being from this country as well, I I I I I to know to know to know to know to know to know to know to know to know to know to know to know to know to know to know to know to know to know to know to know to know to know to know to know to know to know to know to know to know to know to know the to know to know to know to know to know to know their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their. Wea. Wea. I. I. I'm to their their their. Weur. I. I'm their their their. Wea. I. I'm their their want her to get the best of both worlds.

And now, being from this country as well, I want her to know that she is British. Yeah, yeah. Influences from South Africa and Romania, because that's where her parents are from. And so which rugby team do you think she'll support? The one that wins. That's the beauty of it. But if she's into like football or swimming, like South Africa still, but I would let her if she wants, if she's an athlete, she can essentially represent three countries, she gets a choice. Yeah. Yeah.

And so you do speak German then? Yeah, four countries. Sorry, she has four countries, yes. So what's the Germany connection? Me and my husband, we met and we lived and we still live in Germany as well and work. Right, okay so you got German citizenship as well? Yes, so German, Romanian. Blight me. And my sister of Kosmoti lives there and her family's there, they speak full German. I was just there, so that's another language and culture. How are you going to go about the languages for your daughter then in

the house, like for her to learn, is you got rules in the house you speak this one or that one or how you going to do it? I speak English to her and my language which is soana so I speak to her and to speak to her to her to to to her, so to her, so to her, so to her, so to her, so to her, so to her, so their, so their, so their, so their, so their, so their, some, some, some, some, some, some, some, some, some, some, some, some, some, and to to to to to to to to to to to, some, some, some, some, some, some, some, some, some, some, some, some, some, some, some, and to, and to, and to, and to, and to, and to, and to her, and to to to to to to to their, and their, and their, and their, and their, and their, and their, and their, their, their, their, to their, to to their, their, to their, to their, their, their, their, their, their, to to English and Romanian because we want her to speak English. We don't want her to be like three and not know how to talk to other kids. Yeah. But they can pick up different languages right at the start. If you're just saying them all, their brain is able to process all the different languages aren't they? A hundred percent. My niece, Mutsi's baby is so intelligent.

She speaks four languages. and she's five. Whoa! Fluently. What four she got then? So she's got English, which Mutsi was speaking to her in. Then her dad is Ukrainian and they speak Russian. So she speaks with him, only Russian. Then she's German, because they live in Germany and they work there and Suana. Oh my God. Wow. And he's so intelligent that she can speak to her dad in Russian, talk to him, answer him, and then immediately answer my sister in English, and then talk to her school teacher in German.

Like that, bam, bam, bam, bam. She's not have to work at the UN. Only one in there with a headset on. What do you want? Anyway, I'll take it. So it's possible because in South Africa we speak also multiple languages. Yeah. 11 official languages and all together like I can speak about five languages all together. So it is possible. I think if you start them early, everybody says just start with two. But I just think just talk, communicate with them and whatever they catch on to.

And are we all right to talk to you about the premature birth and like what happened there? Yeah. And so was that a total surprise or was there anything that kind of built up to it? Yeah, we were, there was no buildup because it was so spontaneous. We were on our way to do shopping, literally just right here by the shops in our house. And my water broke. B. B. that, out of nowhere. And luckily I was from the shopping, I was on the way to do my 30-week check with my doctor anyway. And I was like, I think my water broke and then she was like, come to the hospital and we'll check. So they snuck me in the hospital like in the background and they all checked and they were like, well, your water's broken but you can still have the baby

until labor comes in. That's when the baby will come out. But you can still carry on without the water because essentially it's just her pee. You just have to try and replenish it and water and do more checkups. And I stayed in the hospital, they checked me in for about two days. And then the day the day the day the day the day the day the day the day the day the day the day they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they were they were they they they were they were they were they were they were they were the the the thoomorrow, thoomorrow, thoomorrow, thoomorrow, thoomorrow, thoughed. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. they were they were they were they were thi. they were all they were all told, told, told, told, told, they were told, told, told, told, they were told, told, they were two days. And then the day they were going to release me, they're like, okay, tomorrow you can go home.

So at about 2 p.m. you can go home. At midnight, that night, labor started. Oh, really? Yeah. And I know everything sounds traumatic. Or maybe I'm just in denial of how traumatic it is. It is, but I loved labor, like labor for me. It was so amazing. I found it very powerful. I had just done my list, you know, that list of saying,

this is what I want, this is what I want, this is what I want to want, this is what I don't want. And I just done that. So it felt like, okay, fine, I'd done everything that I needed to all pain, but I was singing. Like I felt every little bit of it and I think I felt very empowered in that moment. Amazing. Did you have any pain relief or any drugs or anything? Absolutely. That's why I was singing.

I was living my best Western dream. I had gas and air. I was on gassin air and I was like, let it go. Let it go. So that whole process, I have honestly the best memory of it. And even through the whole trauma of having a premature baby, and then when she was born she couldn't breathe on her own. Oh no. It's that process, though, of how she came onto this earth was a very, very joyful one,

one that I'm like very, very happy to talk about. And was there any worry throughout? No, they were really, really positive about it. I think they don't want to worry you. As doctors, their goal is to keep the mom very calm. And especially because I don't know the process, I don't know what to expect, I don't know the steps of how things are going to turn out. They were just very calm, you don't know what you expect, babies react completely different. So when she came out, usually they say babies don't cry and she came out and she was screaming,

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survive. Yeah and they don't give you a time limit because usually they're like oh yeah you, you're going to stay here really, really long, like months and months. But her progress was so good that she was really excelling, really fast. How long was she in for then, in the incubator? Just a week, but then she still needed the breathing tube, she still needed the breathing tube, and then she still needed the breathing tube. And then then then, then, the, the, the, the the the, the the, the, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thus, thus, thus, thus, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th, th, th, th, th, and she's, th, th, and she's, and she's, and she's, and she's, th, and she's, and she's, and she's, thi, and she's, and she's, and she's, thin, and thrown, and thrown, and thrown, and thrown, and thrown, and thrown, and thrown, and thrown, thrown, thrown, thrown, and the, and tube. And then after two weeks she didn't need the breathing tube anymore. And then we were still feeding her until five weeks. We were still feeding her, no, four weeks. And then the last two weeks it was just trying to get her to feed and not be overwhelmed and learn because the whole feeding the jaw the sucking, they learn that. And so when they're not in the tumu to thu. the te te the te tom the tu. the tu. tu. tu. the tu. tu. tu. tu. tu. tu. tu. tu. tube. tube. tube. tube. tube. tube. tube. tube. tube. tube. tube. tube. tube. tube. tube. So, tube. So, thea. So, tube. So, the. So, the. So, the. So, the. So, the. So, the. So, the. So, the. So, the. So, the. So, the. So, the. So, thea. So, thea. So, thea. So, thea. So, thea. So, thea. So, thea. So, thea. So, toguuuuu. So, thea. So, thea. So, thea And so when they're not in the tummy, you need to manually teach them how to do that.

So the last two weeks was teaching her how to feed. And then we went home. So was you in the hospital the whole time with her then for those six weeks? Yeah. Blamey. Yeah, it's a lot. praise for the midwives that are there because you're not dealing with term babies. Every baby that you're dealing with is premature there and they've either got junders or they need to be fed and they wake up all night or they're in pain or and they're all a little bit small, you know? So I think the NICU team of midwives and nurses are just so amazing. They were really, really, really great, especially with us as well. And their. And their. And their, and their, and th. And, and their, and th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. th. thi, thi, th. thi, th. th. th. th. th. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they's, they's, they's, they's, they's, they's, they's, they's, they's, they's, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, the. threat, threat, they're their, thou. We're th th th th tea.. threat, thea, they're thea, they're thea, really, really great, especially with us as well. And so was that lots of other parents there that are in similar positions and stuff and were

you hanging out? How does that work? Yeah, yeah, we were actually. It sounds really bad, but we were because it can be very emotional and exhausting, you know, I mean you guys know the first couple of months are very tiring. Yeah. Imagine not being at home. You need to drive to the hospital. You need to spend your day there. And then you drive home, leaving your child at the hospital every night. It's very emotional.

And with the women that were there, we're still very close. We have a WhatsApp group. They become your support system as well as your partner, but you're there pumping together, you're there crying together, you're there telling each other's progresses. You become a very tight-knit group because you understand what the other people is going through. Yeah. You're giving advice about milk production because some women in Poland do it differently to

other women from Nigeria to other women from South Africa to other women from South Africa, to other women from Britain. So this coming together of different women from different countries, we were able to come together and create a good community. And again, you're on a schedule. So we had our little lunch schedules where we would talk things out and if one was crying we would comfort the other one. That's good. And the other one had to leave to leave to leave to leave to leave to leave to leave to leave to leave to leave to leave to leave to leave to leave to leave to leave to leave to leave to leave to leave to leave to leave to leave to leave to leave to leave the to leave the to leave to leave to leave to leave their the lunch their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their the. thooooooooooooooooooooooooooooom. to to to to their their their their other one. That's good. And the other one had to leave because they left at different times. We would do a little goodbye ceremonies and a little party. So with the moms,

they become a big, big part of it. You become a mess of support system for each other. That's amazing. It's amazing to hear it. Thank you for talking about it, because obviously it must have been a stressful time. Yeah, I think one of my things is I'm one of those delusional people who deny stress. So I think the process afterwards, it took me a couple of months to be like, oh my God, that was traumatic. It becomes your norm, doesn't it, it becomes your everyday everyday does it? Quite quickly that you get into a groove and I mean also you've been chucked into like a lunch room with these other mums and dads that their kids are in incubators and some are leaving next week some aren't going to leave for three months and all that and stuff and they're all comforting each other and they're obviously all worried about the kids but how long into that lunch and one they're the to one the lunch in the lunch in the the their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their the woman off Strickland? Because it's like, obviously the main concerns the baby, but then after an hour of talking

about the babies in their progress, tell us which was the dancer that only did two hours a day. Actually, the whole team knew because, as you know, like the NHS and Strickley are like one thing. Everyone in the ch loves Strictly. So when I walked in, I had also just come from filming something. I looked like Otey off of the television. So my doctor had to be like, we need to all remain calm.

This is a very sensitive situation. She's not here as someone from television. She's hears a mouth who's going through something. Yes, she has got six inch heels on her hair done and a glitter dress, but that's because she's come from work. And leopard print dress with red lips and like my wig was like eight inches long and they're like yeah she is going through something she might not look like it. And so everyone knew who I was, but they just remained calm. Yeah. And they treated me like a normal person. And it never got out because we went through it.

And then I only announced nine weeks later. They were amazing. UCLH. They were really amazing because they knew who I was. And we would have talks about Strickley because Strickley was on. Yeah, of course. How was it? Yeah. We having conversations about it. They were telling me who's their favorite, which dance, they like, me and the team and the nurses, we knew.

But the moms, not exactly. Yeah. Once I left hospital and we started following each other on socials. And then I did my first week on dancing and eyes where they were like, bloody out girl, you're gonna told them. Then the conversation started happening, but also, I know it's a podcast, people don't see, but I look, I look quite rough in real life. I am a catfish of myself. Yeah.

Carrey's make me look like a whole other person. So when you see me in real life, you're like, this can't be hurt. It just cannot. How can she be wearing jugglers from last week and she's like, in real life, you're like, this can't be hurt. It just cannot. How can she be wearing jugglers from last week and she was like baby sick on her jumper and like that's not the glamorous OT that we know. So I think they would have doubted themselves a little bit like who is she? Yeah. But no, it never came up, only afterwards. Oh, that's lovely. That experience separate from that. Yeah, that's th. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. That. That's. That's. That's. That's. Oh. That's. That's. Oh. That's. Oh. Oh. That's. Oh. That's. That's. Oh. Oh. Oh. Yeah, and it really helped. They allowed me to just be me. Yeah, of course. Then it was so important.

O2, it's been amazing. Thanks so much. Thank you. Really, really good interview. We always finish on the same question. The one thing that your husbandthink if he listened to this, hopefully he'll take that on because that is annoying. And also the thing that he does that makes you go, oh, what an incredible dad. I'm so lucky that he's the father of my child. Okay. You can pick which one you go with first?

Yes, that was the lovely one because you know, we always start positive. He is the most incredible dad. And I think because he's Romanian,. hea, he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's the woman. So he's very much involved in everything. He doesn't get overwhelmed. He's so lovely. He loves her. He loves to play with her but he would just do what I say he would just there's a thing that he does when he falls asleep and he gets deep sleep and not hear her when she's crying that is like I am going to kick you out on the house that's Lou's biggest thing with me. I just don't hear it though. I am asleep. I'm not lying. I'm sure he's not lying. But also when she cries, he's just like, yeah, yeah, that's normal.

No, it's not normal. So he's getting to you, he's not right. So he's just, he's so calm. But it's like calmness that is like, oh my gosh, you're doing my head in. I think that's a fair one. It's a fair one. Especially if he's hearing it and still not going in. Yeah, I'm like, no, your snores can't be louder than her cries. That's like, we can't do that.

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and it's basically the story about the greatest showman. And this one the the the the th tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho the. the. tho tho thoe. thoe. thoe. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the. the. the. the. the. the. theater. theater. teater. teater. teatera. teatera. teatera. teatera. teatera. theatera. the the the the the the guy who created circus and the world of circus. And this one is really special because we actually build a circus inside of the theater. And why the Watermill is special? Because it's singing, dancing, acting, but they also play instruments at the same time. And on this one one they're adding circus acts. Oh wow. So they're doing five skills which is not easy. I learned how to juggle and I got so again so upset because I couldn't do it. So they are brilliant minds and the whole production is coming together. It's directed by Jonathan Oak Boyle and he's doing an amazing, amazing job.

Oh brilliant, well good luck with it. Thank you. That's doing an amazing, amazing job. Oh brilliant, well good luck with it. Thank you. That's July the 2nd, September the 8th. Yes, July the 2nd, September the end. I should remember that. You should remember, oh no, it's all right. That's part of our job. Thanks so much, Oty.

Thank you, thank you so battling for it. Cheers Oty. Bye. Bye. Oty Mabousie. I love Oty. She's so much fun, didn't she? Yeah, she's so good, isn't she? She's brilliant. She's so positive. Do you know what? The first time I met her, she was Johnny Peacock on last leg, so we got him on. I didn't really watch Strictly at that stage because it was pre-kid.

There's out being an absolute legend on the sauce, weren't you? Yeah, too bloody right. And um... That was four pints going home and having crying. Exactly. Six p. I didn't know who she was and she was just so good and so funny and you know when you're like oh this person's just like a star straight away. So likeable isn't she? Yeah and a sister's great as well. What a family go and see them? What a family go and see bawnem at the water mill the theater. theater. theater. theater. theater. theater. theater. theater. theater. theater. theater. theater. theater. theater. theater. theater. theater. theater. the the the the the the the the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And the. And the. And the. And the. And the. And the. And th. And the. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And Theatre. See on Tuesday. Bye, see you then. Mom. What is it? Are we there yet? Hello there, it's me, Harry Hill, with some exciting news. I've got a brand new podcast. It's called Are We There yet?

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