Part Of The Problem - A Response to Mark Levin

Episode Date: May 21, 2025

Dave Smith brings you the latest in politics! On this episode of Part Of The Problem, Dave is joined by co-host Robbie "The Fire" Bernstein to discuss Mark Levin's comments about Dave regarding his opinions on the Israel/Palestine conflict, his take on the word "neoconservatives", and more.Support Our Sponsors:Moink - https://www.moinkbox.com/potpMonetary Metals - https://www.monetary-metals.com/potp/YoKratom - https://yokratom.com/Part Of The Problem is available for early pre-release at https://partoftheproblem.com as well as an exclusive episode on Thursday!PORCH TOUR DATES HERE:https://www.eventbrite.com/cc/porch-tour-2025-4222673Find Run Your Mouth here:YouTube - http://youtube.com/@RunYourMouthiTunes - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/run-your-mouth-podcast/id1211469807Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/4ka50RAKTxFTxbtyPP8AHmFollow the show on social media:X:http://x.com/ComicDaveSmithhttp://x.com/RobbieTheFireInstagram:http://instagram.com/theproblemdavesmithhttp://instagram.com/robbiethefire#libertarianSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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I am doing well. And you got a busy day. You got all sorts of shows lined up. I do. Well, I was I filled in for cigar and jetty this morning on breaking points. And with crystal ball. Yeah, I had a full day. I did that first thing in the morning. They're a morning show, uh, which is, but you know, I, I'm, I'm all up early anyway. So these days I'm, I'm not naturally a morning person, but these kids, they really force you to bake. Um, but it was a lot of fun. I think that should be, as you guys are listening now, that should be up. Um, they usually, they put it up, I think on their site first, like much like kind of the way we do it. They put it up on their site and then it's out on YouTube later, but it was really fun. I really, really enjoyed it.

Yeah. Go check that out. Then of course, tomorrow is the big debate. I will be debating at the Soho forum. I'm making my return to the Soho forum, which was my, you know, kind of feels like a homecoming. I miss, I miss those guys. So looking forward to that. Of course, Robbie the fire Bernstein will be there opening up the show with some comedy. So some comedy, a debate, and then an after party over at Jane Epstein's place. So looking forward to that. And then dates everybody. Yeah. Check out the run your mouth podcast. And of course, porch tour.com this weekend in DC Jersey in Virginia beach coming out. And then next weekend, a bunch of Texas dates. And if you go to porch store.com, I'm everywhere this summer. You name a city,

I'm probably visiting it. So go to porch store.com and grab those tickets. Hell yeah. Go see. And I have have consistently heard nothing but great things about the porch tour. So make sure you go on out to one of those if they're near you. And then of course me and Rob will also be on tour together. Comic Dave Smith.com for all of those ticket links. Our next stop is Salt Lake City in Utah, partying with the Mormons, where they, they, but they mess with you. Don't they mess with the beer there or something like that?

Right, Rob? Doesn't the beer have less alcohol in it? Yep. They have lower DUI limits and they're typical beers. I think like a Budweiser is 5% and there it's like 4.2 or something stupid like that. It's you're just making me drink more beer. Utah. I think you can get normal beers, but it's like your typical Budweiser, your Pippa cold

Miller light. All of that's been downgraded just a little bit for no reason. I was talking to a guy popping pills anyway, so how's that working out for you Mormons? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, no, it's all ridiculous. But, yeah, listen, we like the Mormons. But it's this, the alcohol thing we really gotta talk about. I was talking to this guy who owns a couple dispensaries out here in Jersey. And I thought, I don't know, it was interesting. He was telling me this, so I didn't know this, but evidently in like in New York,

you can sell edibles that like whatever dosage, you know, you can get like 10 milligrams or 50 milligrams or a hundred milligrams or whatever the THC count in it is, but in Jersey, it's legal. You can have the businesses, but you can only sell 10 milligram edibles. You can't sell any more than that. And so I, you know, he was telling me this is like the rule in Jersey that of course my, I thought kind of obvious follow-up question I was like, but can't people just eat more of the gummies? And he was like, oh yeah, no, that's what everybody does.

And then it was just like a great little example of like government rules and how stupid they are. But so he goes, he goes, Oh, my father is on a is on chemo. He goes, and the gummies really help them. Like they really help with his appetite and his sleep and just like not feeling so shitty. And he goes, but he's also diabetic. And now he's got to eat five of these gummies instead of one of them. So he's still doing it. He's still eating the 50 milligrams. So anyway,

I don't know. It's just like, for some reason it reminded me of that with the lowering the alcohol level in beer. Like it's like, is someone who has a problem just going to be like, ah, too bad. I really, I really would have liked a little bit more alcohol, but I, they only put so much to beer. Just can have another beer. You're just making them. You're just making people fatter. That's what all of this does is just makes people fatter and equally as impaired

as they otherwise would be. But you know, government's bad at everything. Um, okay. So for today's episode, I you know, government's bad at everything. Um, okay. So for today's episode, I did think, um, it made sense to get into this. Um, you know, it's we, I guess I've been doing more, um, like response episodes lately than, than we typically do. But, um, I do think they're kind of necessary and they seem to get very good numbers So, you know, whatever I don't know if this one's gonna be quite as as juicy as some of the other characters, but

Mark Levin did go off Partially on me. I think it was more on Tucker Carlson, but you know But, you know, it's anti Semites. Yes, it's a real problem. I am the Jewish face of anti Semitism or whatever. I've taken the Larry elders title and morphed it a little bit, but it's kind of hard. Number one. I mean, the the I'm responding to people who are influential people and they're talking about issues that

are the issues that we talk about. And I guess just because over the last month, my profile has been a bit higher than it ever has before. It's just been more often the case that I personally am involved in this. But it's really not, you know what I mean, um, it's really, it's not about me. It's about the, what matters. It's about the argument that's being made here. Um, and it has been, it's just, it's been interesting.

You know, I was a guy who became, you know, obsessed with politics about 20 years ago. And. You know, it's, it's a, I've seen some people say over the last month or so that, you know, people be like this Dave Smith guy came out of nowhere, which is I'm sure true from their perspective, but it is a little bit different from my perspective. Like 20 years doesn't feel like out of nowhere, but if you could try to imagine it from my perspective, it's kind of, it's a little bizarre when you've got these people who were like huge figures now coming after me,

you know, all these years later, like it's a little surreal, but it's also been, you know, I think I've, I've talked about this dynamic in the past. And I really felt it when I debated Dennis Prager. I remember going into that debate and I had debated a bunch of people on Israel already at the point, but I had debated like Laura Loomer and Austin Peterson and these people who were like, they just don't really know anything. They're, they're not, they're not readers, you know, and they're like, it,

it was just kind of like my, my depth of knowledge on the issue just far surpassed theirs. And they, and that's just very clear to anyone who watches the debate. And when I was debating Dennis Prager, I just kind of felt this pressure. Like I was like this guy, I've been watching this guy on TV since I was a kid. I remember watching him on Politically Incorrect, Bill Maher's old show. Well, I must've been like 16 years old or something like that. The guy has been doing a radio show since I was born.

Like he's my entire life and this is his number one issue. As I remember feeling this pressure going into the debate, like, okay, I got a real, I better be on point. I'm, I'm debating a guy who's been doing this my entire life and I'm debating him on his number one issue, you know? And then like right as the debate started, it was during his opening statement, I was just like, Oh, and I had this realization and then I was just calm for the rest of the thing. And the realization was just simply that he had nothing,

like I just couldn't even believe it. It was like, Oh, he actually, he has nothing. He has no argument to protect, uh, to present. Um, and of course the same has been true in all the big debates since then. Um, I'm just kind of blown away by how much, oh, they don't actually have an argument. And that was kind of how I felt as this happened. But anyway, Mark Levin, I guess still has a radio show and I'm sure there are a decent amount of 80 year olds who still listen to it. But I don't know, you've, I'm sure known who Mark Levin is over the years, Rob. Right.

So I used to very occasionally listen to Mark Levin on the radio. And I mean, very occasionally. We're talking about in the years where I was not following politics, but every once in a while I'd be bored on the radio, happens to be in the car, I think at 7 p.m. And the first 10 minutes of Mark Levin before he started taking calls He had something interesting to say was usually rooted in his constitutional analysis I just thought his voice was hilarious Like if I was doing a cartoon where you're supposed to turn on the radio and hear someone screaming about war He's that's the voice I would cast and it was a constant and mr. President. It's an outrage That's just the voice that should be coming out of your radio,

pitching to you that the president's ruining the country and we need to be fighting a war. It's like if you had to draw a picture of who that guy should be and, and create a voice of who it would be that voice. Anyway, Mark Levin has been a long time, a right-wing radio talk, radio host has a show on Fox news. He's kind of, he's one of the biggest, you know, right-wing radio guys. And for a long time, obviously Rush Limbaugh was always the biggest and him and Hannity, I think we're fighting it out for like the number two spot and right-wing radio for a long time. But for a long time, this is kind of forgotten now, but right

wing radio was the, the only game in town for critics of liberals. Um, and then obviously Fox news blew up, but that was, it was kind of like the, you know, with these, these terms that they're kind of sound like dinosaur artifacts or something now, but like, you know, the, the liberal media. Um, and so the, which was true, but it wasn't just the news, it was everything like all, all TV and movies were made in New York or LA. And so they always inherently just reflected a kind of cultural political bias. Um, you know, if you like grew up around my age,

like I'm 42, when you grew up, the, the, even the big shows, like things outside of, of politics, but like Seinfeld or Friends or something like that. It was all of the characters. There was no religious person. No one ever believed in God. There was never a thing about it. No one went to church.

No one went to temple. Like they all had sex out of wedlock. They all, you know what I'm saying? Like it was just like culturally speaking, it was not a conservative world. It was a very secular liberal world. And so right wing radio became kind of like the thing that they had. That was that was one of their very few outlets. And so he was one of the big guys in that and is still around. I don't know.

I don't know like what his ratings are these days, but it's not, I'm sure what it used to be. But anyway, he is a part of that kind of Neo con war hawk. He's a George W. Bush conservative and of course staunchly pro Israel and George W. Bush, conservative, and of course, staunchly pro-Israel and shockingly not a huge fan of me. Never saw that coming. Okay. Anyway, let's, let's get into this and, and respond to a little bit of our, our boy here, Mark LeBend. Now broadcasting from the underground command post, deep in the bowels of a hidden bunker somewhere under the brick and steel of a nondescript building, we once again make contact with our leader, Mark LeBend.

All right, can you pause it already for a second? I didn't even realize this is it here, man. How much did podcasts just expose how stupid radio is? Isn't it just dumb? You know, you really don't need any of that. I remember that intro from 20 years ago. That's funny that it's still going. That is something. It's always why, why was there in radio? First of all, I know like I've done radio a lot over the years, like it's serious studios and stuff. And it is open. First of all, it's always, it's so short. There's commercials all the time. You just talk for like a few minutes and then they're like, okay, take a break. And then there's always this like, we're back in the kids, like why, why you're just cutting into our

time. No one's up tunes into listen to that. Okay. I'm sorry. I shouldn't you're just cutting into our time. No one's tunes into listen to that. Okay. I'm sorry. I should do this. Let's, let's keep playing. America Mark Levin here. Our number eight seven seven three eight one three eight one one eight seven seven three

eight one three eight one one. I want to thank you for being here. Greatest audience of all audiences. Now I'm here five days a week, three hours a day, Mr. Producer. Five days a week, three hours a day, and that's just on radio. So Schmuck picks a fight with me. Doesn't call me. He's got this sidekick, sort of a, I don't even know who this guy Smith is.

What was his guess? He's not like an Ed McMahon figure or something. I don't know why all these big time smart hosts always have to have a sidekick or somebody or a guest. Guess that's what they need. Neo-Conservatives, ladies and gentlemen, as I was briefly stating, these were mostly, it is sort of a nebulous term, or was, but you can see, it would be like the weekly standard where Chatsworth Osborne Jr. actually worked with his good friend Bill Kristol.

Didn't they find texts or something where he called Trump a dumb F to Mr. Pritz? Something like that. If I'm wrong, Chatsburn, you can put a footnote on that one. But he thinks he runs foreign policy in America. Anybody who disagrees with him has to be smeared. He brings in these brilliant experts who rewrite World War II and the Holocaust economists who know history. Then apparently comedians.

So nobody's ever heard of. Certainly I haven't. But that's okay. That's his gig. He can do whatever he wants. All right. Let's pause it already for a second. I don't even know.

Do you get, you get my point about how shocking it is, how they all have nothing? Like just what is this? This is just unbelievable to me to watch. It's like all that is that? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I get it. No, I know. Listen, I think it's ridiculous too.

I know it's ridiculous that I'm just Listen, I think it's ridiculous too. I know it's ridiculous that I'm just some comedian who you've never heard of. And yet I'm better at this than all of you. It's insane. I also think it's crazy. Now that we're over that, can you take on anything I said? Can you take on one argument? Does it? Why is it necessary every time for this constant poisoning of the well? I don't even know who this guy is. And then he has the nerve to start this off by saying, anyone who disagrees with you on foreign policy needs to be smeared. Well, what exactly are you doing? What is this? What is it necessary to open up with a, I guess a comedian knows about

history and I don't even know his name. I don't even know who he is. Like, okay. All right. It's like they all, they all have to pretend to not be able to remember the simplest name in the fucking world. Every one of them, not one of you can get Dave, right? Like not one of you to figure out Dave. It's a biblical name, Mark Levin. It's a pretty common one. The last one is like my last name is a little bit tricky. It's hard to pronounce, but it is just so it isn't it kind of like, I don't know. It's very, it's revealing in a sense.

I mean, I've had so many of them now who have done this They all by the way, they're all smearing me simply because I disagree with them on foreign policy That is the bottom if I didn't but let's get real here Mark Levin, mr Constitutional conservative if I saw eye to eye with you on war, you'd have nothing but great things to say about me That's the truth was you know know, it's, it's the, whatever. It's this like dumb, most pathetic game and it's, it is like, there's something that's, there's like an irony or something where I'm the comedian podcaster. right? So like you're essentially the whole

point. What is always the point is like, we're the professional people who talk about wars and cheerlead all of them. You're just some comedian podcaster. The argument being like that we're the serious professional people. You're like the, the class clown type character. And yet every single time I'm attempting to present arguments backed up by historical facts with sources, and they are playing mean girl games. Like it's fucking it's the gayest shit I've ever seen in my life. They argue like 16 year old girls. I just couldn't imagine ever showing up to any type of political debate or take down or whatever you want to call this. And starting with no one even knows yet.

We don't even know your name. I don't even know your name. What is it? Some comedian guy. I mean, who even needs a sidekick? Why can't you just do it yourself? It's like sidekick. It's it was an interview. interview. Is this like some? This is some novel, like idea? I don't know. Anyway, rather what I'm sorry, if there's not much substance here, but what can I what did he give me to contend with? But isn't it just something? It's just interesting how it always goes the same way. And if you got three hours to fill with no sidekick, you can always replace it with long pauses.

Also, you don't by the way, you don't have three hours to fill. That's the other comment I was making at the beginning of that. You don't have three hours to fill. You have commercials, then it comes in. You have that that, you know, sound graphic thing. And you say the hours to fill. You have commercials, then it comes in. You have that that, you know, sound graphic thing. And you say the hours of calls. It's literally 30 minutes of Mark Levin up front, if even. And by the way, I forgot about Karl Mark Levin.

I only like I only like Yelly Mark Levin when he's here. This is this is the Karl Mark Levin. That's not my impression. It always that's that's right. It always it's it's one or the other. He goes two speeds, you know, slow you, that's right. It always, it's, it's one or the other. He goes two speeds, you know, slow you down or jerk fast. But he's a, yeah, it's like, no, you don't talk for three hours. You probably spend 20 minutes saying the phone number. You know, they do

that constantly in radio. They have to keep telling you the number over and over and over again. So anyway, whatever. And as you've already demonstrated, you fill a lot of it with fluff and zero substance. But okay, let's keep playing. Oh, his platform, is it subscription rich? I don't know. It is. So he needs to have hits. He needs subscribers. That's all well and good. I believe in capitalism too. But that said, reading is fundamental. We have this site Medi-ite which is really a low-life bunch of morons. And quote me on that, will you for once media low love punch of morons, pre-bubescent low IQ individuals who actually don't produce any substance, but take the words of other

people slap headlines on them. And in many cases, twist them out of context. So the other day they said I called the envoy. But let's pause it right here because he's about to get into it. Obviously me and, uh, me and Tucker talked about his comments about Wittkopf on the show, but I, I will say this. I just, I found this to be hilarious. Um, what he's saying about Medi-ite and I don't, I'm not like a very regular, you know, I've a few times I've clicked on their videos and you know, like they're, they're one of the sites that's out there.

He's right that they're an aggregate, like they just take content from other things and then run like, it's not really a story. They're just kind of like story. Tucker Carlson said this on his podcast and you're like, you could just go to the podcast. Like you don't really need it, but that's their, their business model. Without any comment on that business model. I just found it hilarious that Medi-ite ran this.

I thought that was the ultimate response. Media just did it again with this content. It's like no matter how much you try to fight them, they're like, ah, great article right there. So just post this this video this is why I saw it it was from media or you sent it to me rob actually at first but uh but it was a media link anyway I just thought that was kind of funny okay let's get into the uh the substance here twist them out of context so the other day they said I called the envoy a traitor in the title and then in a body the piece they said he called them the essentially he essentially called him a traitor I

never called him a traitor I know how to say traitor and not a right traitor so in comes chat worth Osborne jr. and hold on, I gotta find exactly what I wrote here. I should ask him because he wrote it down, he thought it was so important. Oh, speaking of the envoy who talked about the neocon element, and I'm guessing he used that phrase because he has no idea what it means. You see, all the neoconservatives are dead. They were old time Democrats who banded the Democrat Party and were hawks when it came to foreign policy. And many of them were quite brilliant.

Scoop Jackson, Patrick Moynihan, Jean Kirkpatrick, and as I said Chatsworth Osborne Jr. was of that ilk or part of that ilk as a senior writer maybe even an editor at the non-existent now Crystal magazine. Fox News Mark Levin ripped Witcoff, you see, called him a traitor. I never called him a traitor. In fact, I never would call him a traitor. But he posts this and then I posted this. By the way, neocon is a pejorative for Jew. Unbelievable. You see all the Neocons are

gone. So why do they keep using the word neoconservative? Notice they don't use hawk, interventionist, neocon. Why do they keep saying neocon? Because many of the neoconservatives were old-time left-wing Democrat Jews. Can we just pause here for a second? Sure. Chats where it knows it? This to me is, I'm going to be the gay Jew on this one. This to me is dangerous for Jews because when you say a neocon, you're criticizing the idea of

pro-war individuals. And now you could probably get into the history better than I can of who were the neocons and the damage that they've done to this country. I'm not as intelligent. I don't know the history. You say the word neocon and I'm thinking of the largely conservative individuals who are always looking for and preaching for war. There is no affiliation to Jewish people when I hear that word.

That's not what people are criticizing. If they wanted to criticize, hey, there's an issue with Jewish people, then they're jumping into anti-Semitism. And now you're saying Jews. And that's not even necessarily an affiliation with war. You could say all of these Jews were pitching war. When you say the word neocon, you're conveying one thing, which is I am actually just calling them the title of the group of people that are very pro war and advocate for war. And that almost became an insult to people of, oh, you're just a neocon,

because they were so wrong and they led us to so many disastrous wars, that it almost becomes embarrassing to have the title neocon because now you're easily dismissed and being within this category that was so drastically wrong on so many things and just likes war. But when you say the word neocon, it has zero affiliation with Jewish people until someone like Mark Levin steps in and goes, oh, the Jews are so highly affiliated with being pro war in this country. Then when you say neocon, you're actually trying...

No one had this affiliation until I'm hearing it introduced here. And now you're actually actively affiliating Jewish ideas and Jewish people with the horrible war machine of our country that people are actually trying to criticize. Right. Well, okay, so that I think that's exactly right. I also he's also just wrong when he says all the neo cons are dead anti semitism thing he's trying to hide behind. He's trying to hide behind not having an argument for his ideas and instead dismissing people that want to criticize the actual ideas of being pro war as oh, you're just being anti semitemitic, or you're just being anti-Jew, which then allows him to not actually have an argument over the

issues that he's probably wrong about but would like to preach to you. Right, exactly. So just to be clear here, because this is something that's quite funny about it, right? Like this was, you know, in my debate with Douglas Murray, as many of you saw, um, at one point, I said something about neo conservatives and he said, ah, the N word. And then when I was like, he wrote a book called neo conservatism why we need it. So this is not, you know how there are like terms like, um, I never liked this one. I never used it, but do you remember the, uh, branch?

Covideans was a term that people used. It was a term for the COVID insane lockdown. The reason I didn't like the term because like the branch, Davidians weren't the bad guys in that story. Uh, I didn't like, you know what I'm saying? Like they were, the bad guys were the ATF and the FBI, not the Davidians anyway. Um, but you'd kind of come up withF and the FBI, not the dividends anyway. But you'd kind of come up with a term for like, say the people who wanted to lock down the country. And then you use that as a pejorative because they were wrong about everything. And it had a disastrous consequence when their policy was implemented.

This is something different. This is their term. This is what they called themselves. They self identified as neo conservatives. Okay, and they wrote, they wrote books and books and books and articles, and they had think tanks. And this is what they called themselves. Now when he says the old neo cons, the neo cons are all dead. No, the first generation of them are dead. Those guys really did not get much political power.

Almost all of the neoconservatives are still alive. Now, it is true that, for example, Irving Kristol is dead, but Bill Kristol is still alive. Norman Podhoretz is dead, but John Podhoretz is still alive. Norman Podhoretz is dead, but John Podhoretz is still alive and calling Thomas Massey anti-Semitic filth for saying we're 36 trillion dollars in debt we can't afford to fund Israel's war. So there's still, but look it is true that somewhere along the line, neoconservative just kind of became a pejorative for Warhawks. It's kind of, maybe there's a comparison there, but it's kind of like the word woke. Now woke and the term social justice warrior, these were self descriptors at first.

Like the people who were woke called themselves woke. Then it became a pejorative these days. If you hear the term woke used, you're almost always hearing it as an insult towards somebody. But okay, you don't get to just say the word is offensive when you embraced the word. Like I'm sorry, this is too goofy. And so okay, there were a lot of Self-described neoconservatives. They were not all Jewish although disproportionately there were a lot of Jews involved

but there were people like Dick Cheney and Donald Rumsfeld and there were always people in the group who were not Jewish But they agreed with their views on foreign policy, which as Mark Levin said were extremely hawkish now What happened is that the neoconservatives the self-described? neoconservatives they Hijacked us foreign policy in the George W Bush administration So they were really the ones calling the shots right after 9-11. And it's the greatest tragedy of the 21st century that they were in positions of power at this time.

And they're the ones who launched the war on terrorism. And this now they it is true that of the self-described neoconservatives, a lot of them are no longer in power. Now, some of them are not that far from being out of power. Of course, the architect of the entire catastrophe in Ukraine was Victoria Nuland, who was hired by Dick Cheney and then promoted by Hillary Clinton. And this is the wife of Robert Kagan,

who was a project for a new American century, self-described neo-conservative. So no, it's not like, oh, this is ancient history, none of them have been around, they're all dead, that's just a lie. But it is true that essentially, while Dick Cheney and Donald Rumsfeld, the guys from the project for a new American century, um,

with the exception of Robert Kagan's wife, who was just in power until Donald Trump came back in. Um, it's true. Most of them aren't in power anymore, but the policy continued nonetheless. And somewhere along the line, Neocon became a pejorative for the guys trying to get us into the next stupid war. But this term was applied and look, you could argue like this term was applied to people who don't self-describe as neocons, but it was applied to people like John McCain or

Lindsey Graham, who were not self-identified neocons, but had foreign policy that was indistinguishable from the neoconservatives. self-identified neo cons but had foreign policy that was indistinguishable from the neo conservatives by the way both John McCain and Lindsey Graham not Jewish but people still throw the term out at them because they're stupid Warhawks there's like it's just it's ridiculous to say that this term is off limits because now which is what essentially all of them are doing, right? Is that they all, they like the Neocon agenda, but they know that the term Neocon

is kind of associated with catastrophe. And so they're like, hey, stop using that word that we used to use. It's like people like Mark Levin, right? Defended the invasion of Iraq and Afghanistan. And I'm sure it was critical. I mean, I don't know enough about him, but I'm sure it was critical of Obama for not being harsher or for not being more of a hawk. And you know, it's like, okay, but like, no, I'm sorry, because essentially what they're saying here on top

of like, your point is, is completely right, Rob, but on top of just this thing where you're making it a Jewish thing when it's not, or not entirely, at least, it's also a desperate attempt to get away from your own track record, you know, to be like, no, no, no, we don't talk about that anymore. You're not allowed to have a word that you use to dismiss all of us based off of our history of disaster. All right, guys, let's take a moment and thank our sponsor for today's show, which is Monetary Metals. I've been telling you about this company for a while. They're a great company run by great

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the funny thing is that none of them even have a response to that. You know, they, they sit there and say what they will about, I'm just a comedian, or I don't know what I'm telling you. It's like, Oh, okay. All, all that stuff. Fine. You could pretend to not know my name. I don't really give a shit. You know, as Mark Levin said at one point there, he goes, I like capitalism. You know, he kind of threw this weird little insult to Tucker. Oh, he has a subscription model. I guess that means he needs subscribers. Like, yeah. And you have a radio show, need listeners. What are you talking about? We're all in the same business But if you are a capitalism guy that means that you know kind of the market gets to determine whose voice ought to be hurts

I don't really give a shit if you know my name or not because I'm winning in the marketplace Like who cares what you think the what matters is the argument and the fact is that the war on terrorism Cost the american taxpayer eight trillion dollars it Destabilized our country it has led to the worst Tribal political cultural and racial divides of my lifetime it slaughtered cultural and racial divides of my lifetime. It slaughtered around, I think the estimates are around 4 million people were killed in,

in the wars. It destroyed Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, Libya, Somalia, Yemen. It has resulted in thousands of our, our brave young soldiers being killed in action. Tens of thousands of them have been injured in action. Tens of thousands of them have committed suicide in the wake of the wars. And there's not one theater in where all of these wars have happened that you could say is better off now than it was before. That's their legacy. And you might notice none of them have a response to that.

Not a single one of them. When I said it to Douglas Murray, he said, okay, that is a fair point. It's got no response to that. And that's why they rely on smearing anybody who opposes them because forget all the other stuff. This was your track record. You were for these policies. These policies were enacted. This is the result. And part of the result is now the term neocon means evil, psychotic, retarded, blood soaked monster warhawk who ruins everything he touches deal with it. We're not gonna stop calling you that

Okay, all right, let's keep playing I Know it And many of the people that use that phrase either don't know what they're talking about but in the magazines and on the internet They know it. So they're not going to say the Jews are dragging us into a war. They'll say Israel is Netanyahu is they're not going to say the Jews, this and the J. So they use neocon chats where they're smart enough to know what he's doing.

Let's pause it for a second. So your criticism is that they're more precise and that they don't just blame all Jews? That's your point. No, a lot of people out there do say the Jews are just dragging us into all of these wars. Those are the ones who are Jew haters. Okay. Other people who are more precise and more accurate say, hey, these people are dragging us into a war. Like, did they not drag us into a war? Have we not been dragged into wars in the last 25 years? Okay. There were people who were making

decisions in positions of power. And no, it's not just Jews. There's lots of non Jews in that group as well. And so your beef with us is that we're using a more precise term that also incorporates the non-Jewish Warhawks into this. What? Yes. Yes, the Israeli government and the neoconservatives have been hell-bent on dragging America into war and they've been largely successful in that effort. Them's the facts. Mark Levin, sorry. I know there's supposed to be, there's supposed to be this, you know, like unwritten agreement

that we're never supposed to talk about the warfare state, but we're never supposed to like mention that, that that's a fact in American political life also. But we're never supposed to like mention that that that's a fact in American political life also. But we're never I don't know where we're all supposed to be constitutional conservatives who don't mention that the Congress hasn't declared a war since World War Two. But that doesn't fuck with you at all Mark Levin being in being in a state of forever war all of them being undeclared wars that that never, you never read something from the founders that indicated maybe this was not the original

intent of article one, section eight and give me a fucking break. So anyway, yeah. So you're, you're an anti you're antisemitic for saying the neo-cons drag us into war because you really want to say the Jews drag us into war, but you don't. Right. What, what can you say about this? It's too ridiculous. It's like a knee being like, you know, the bloods in the Crips sure have killed a lot of people in Chicago. And then someone going, Oh, that's a pejorative for black people. So you really want to say black people are killing a bunch of people in Chicago But you just keep saying the Bloods and Crips goes no that's so I'm not being racist

I'm being specific. Can you defend the actions of the Bloods in the Crips? No, let me tell you something It's easier than defending the actions of the neo cons Killed a lot less people. All right, let's keep playing He may have transitioned into what he's become today, but he knows what he's doing. Now when I wrote this, by the way, Neocon is pejorative for Jew, unbelievable. Mr. Deuce, does that say I called the envoy an anti-semite? You're either stupid or diabolical to suggest that I did take your pick. Okay. So I'm no fan of the other way. So after all of this, by the way, it talks about, he talks for three hours. It's like, yeah, you take a long time to make a point. And then your point is the most garbage point I've ever heard. I mean, this is again, this is why the whole like woke, right? Debate and all of that.

All I'm saying is like, forget even whether you like the term or not. I think the people lobbing it my way have so discredited the term that it's useless at this point, but like you do get, this guy might as well be a gender studies major the way he's arguing. He's, it's literally like, it's identical to what the woke left used to do all the time. They used to say these things where they'd be like, um, they, they talk about, uh, um,

like toxic masculinity or toxic whiteness. Uh, there was that book, the case of white fragility or something like that. And then people would be like, it sounds like you're a racist who hates white people. And they'd be like, where did I say that? When did I say that? No, I didn't say anything about white people. I said whiteness. And you're like, yeah, well, I mean, what is this? So yes, you'd, okay. You're right. You're right. Mark Levin.

You didn't call Trump's envoy an anti-Semite. You said he was using an anti-Semitic trope, right? You said Neocon is a pejorative for Jews. So you said he's using a pejorative for Jews. But then to sit there and go like, only an idiot would have thought I called him an anti-Semite is like, Oh, shut up, dude. Like what, what do you think? This is cute. This is the dumbest game I've ever heard. Yes. I can't believe people made that mistake in assuming that you called him an anti-semite when you just said he's being an anti-semite, whatever. It was just too ridiculous. And he shoved blacks out of his store and that's a that's a racist action

Oh, I never said the owner was a racist. I just like the action that he engaged in was racist Yeah, come on. This is just it's it's ridiculous. All right, let's keep playing But I never called him a traitor I know how to say traitor and I never called him an anti-semite And this is really precious coming from our friend Chatsworth Osborne jr. who's brought in a conga line a Conga line a misgrants malcontents and worse In my opinion And I say this as a red-blooded American that a

lot of people are getting sick and tired of this game they're getting turned off by this the American people do not want the islamo-nazi regime in Iran to get a nuclear weapon They don't want them to have missile technology where they can put a nuclear warhead on an intercontinental Polistic missile and hit the United States and the fact that they don't want that doesn't make them a warmonger a neocon or anything else It makes them patriotic Americans Americans that's number one number two I am hoping you are hoping that Donald Trump figures out some kind of deal that nobody else has figured out yet but he's capable of it to stop them short of war but many of us are skeptical why because we have a brain because we know the

Islamo-nazi regime in Tehran is a terrorist regime that has violated every piece of paper. It's every sign That's why we're at the 11th hour. That's why Donald Trump's having to deal with it We know what terrorism means as much as we know what neocon means So if you're trying to stop the Iranian regime which chantsants day in and day out, death to America, death to America, death to America, and tries to assassinate our president, you're not a warmonger. You're a peacemaker. That's what you are. You're not a neo con.

Okay. You're not a neo con the neo conger. Okay, so I mean, wow. First off, he starts going into the Mark Levin voice that Rob like so here now we're getting the real live in here. And holy shit. It's like once they get once they get through all the bullshit and actually present their argument, it is just the dumbest fucking dick Cheney bullshit you've ever heard that like, it's all just so like who even believes this hyperbolic nonsense anymore?

Iran is going to nuke the United States of America with the nuke that they don't have and the delivery capabilities they do not possess. This is this is on the level of Saddam Hussein is about to hand WMDs to the terrorists. This is the propaganda that got us into Iraq, that Saddam Hussein is about to hand this weapon that he doesn't own over to the terrorists who he's not friends with. There's the Islamo Nazis. It's just fucking pathetic. No, Mark Levin. No. The American people, the red blooded Americans, including, by the way,

the military that you need in order to go fight these wars, the American people are sick of war and they do not want to fight another war on behalf of Israel This is born out Across all the opinion polls and not just the opinion polls It's the military guys themselves as I always love to say on the show but in 2008 and 2012 at the height of the war on terrorism The candidate who got more money from active duty military than all other candidates combined was Dr. Ron Paul. Because no, the

American people don't go, oh my god there's a bunch of Nazis in Iran, we just have to go to war with them. Actually the American people aren't even thinking about that shit. The American people are thinking about how America has had a rough go of it over the last few years. That's what they're thinking about. And by again, this is borne out in all of the opinion polls, all of the opinion polls. Rob, you know what? We just had a, I don't know if you recall Rob, we had a presidential election over this

last year. There were a bunch of opinion polls. At the top of the issues, the issues that people were voting on was will Iran get a nuke or not? That was the number one. Oh no no no no no I'm sorry. It was the economy and immigration because people care about their country. Kind of makes sense. It kind of makes sense. You know some of us have kids and our kids are growing up in this country. So we care about what's good for this country. Yeah, I was watching the other day. Yesterday, I saw a clip of Michael Knowles,

who's over at the Daily Wire. And it's kind of interesting. It's interesting watching the dynamic of Matt Walsh and Michael Knowles, because, you know, they're kind of taking the non-interventionist approach while still never criticizing Israel, because, you know, they're kind of taking the non interventionist approach while still never criticizing Israel because you know, they got an audience that they got to keep, but then they also got a job that they got to keep. So they're caught in this kind of weird spot. And at one point, Michael Knowles is saying, he's like, look, you know, I've heard a lot of people make arguments,

but no one's really made a convincing argument to me of why Israel doesn't have a right to go to war over October 7th. Now, leaving that aside, because I think a lot of people, including myself, made pretty damn convincing arguments about why Israel doesn't have a right to do what they're doing. But whatever, that's what he says. And then there's certain and then at a point in it, it's almost like he just says it without really thinking of the implication. But he goes, he goes, Look, I want the war to end tomorrow, just like as an American, I think it's better and it's in our interest for the war to end. I mean, it's just causing all types of problems,

you know, but still is realize a right to do this. How do you like, you almost like like, Oh wait, hold on. But so you just subtly admitted that even from your point of view, it's in America's interest for the war to stop. So you're telling me we got to fund an arm, a war that is against our interests. Give me a break with this bullshit. Mark Levin, you know why? Listen, man, Mark Levin has a 40 year headstart on me in this game. Literally, I bet he's been doing it since I was two years old. Okay. And he has tens of millions of dollars and he works for billion dollar companies and has syndicated all across the country. And in the marketplace, I have not only caught but beat him due to one simple fact. The American

people are not where you are. They're just not. It's born out in every single opinion poll that you can find. The American people do not recognize that the Islamo-Nazis are our biggest concern. The American people recognize that, like, you know, people pouring into the country by the millions illegally, that's our big concern. That are losing the purchasing power of our dollar, that's our big concern. Why are we losing all this purchasing power in our dollar? Well, a big part of it is we've spent $10 trillion on maintaining an empire over the last 25 years Had to print a lot of money to make up for that. All right guys

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Let's let's keep playing. I'll do another few minutes on this without Rob. Let's uh, let's keep playing The dead Now people use neocon many people innoc, they don't know what it means. He knows what it means. And my point to our envoy was, why are you using word like that? Because you don't even know what it means, as do others. And so the point was to let them know that it's a pejorative. What it's a pejorative war and it's unbelievable that he spews it.

And he'll keep spewing it and others will too. But I don't have to pretend I'm Helen Keller that I don't see and I don't hear and neither do you. And neither do you and neither do you and there's a whole pattern over there what Chatsworth Osborne jr. A Whole pattern Now he's free to do what he wants I believe in free speech Go ahead buy his subscription do whatever you want. It's perfectly fine by me But don't screw with me a little bastard

By twisting my words. All right. Let's pick up the phone. Don't, don't screw with Mark Levin or what? Or what you old soft man, what are you going to do? Launch the dumbest rant I've ever heard. Listen, Steve Wittkopf knows exactly what the term neoconservative means and more important than that, he knows what it means in common parlance. Like he knows what it means today. What he means is Warhawk. Yes, it's a pejorative for Warhawks because Witkoff is trying his best, it seems, to make peace around the world. And you know, okay, it's not going perfectly, but actually he's had some very real,

very tangible success, saved some human beings lives again, as I know this is a running theme on the show at this point, but isn't it interesting how none of them seem to care about that? Isn't that so goddamn fascinating that me here as the self hating Jew, Hamas sympathizer or whatever the fuck I get called on Twitter. I'm the one who's celebrating that 20 hostages got returned over the last few months. 21 ones you count the American. Um, but so yes,

he knows again, you know, uh, woke it like the, the term woke, which is what I made the, you know, you know it first started as like a black consciousness term. It started as like black people. The idea was to get woke to wake up to like this is a, the systemic oppression and the kind of false narratives that have been created. And then as is typically the case, it started in the black community. And then a bunch of white liberals were like, oh, that's cool. We want it. And so they took it.

And then they did really, really stupid things with it. Like argue that, um, you know, gender is made up and all types of ridiculous stuff. And, um, now it's a pejorative used to smear that. But if anyone were to say to you, they go, you don't even know what the term means. The term means black consciousness. It's like, eh, it once did. It doesn't anymore. It's the way words work. You know, language evolves like that. And yes, the term neocon is now just a pejorative for warhawk because you guys have lost

the fucking argument. That's the truth. You know, there's a real, there's a real irony in the, um, in the whole, you know, last month, the, the, the whole, uh, nonsense about like experts and you know, you've never been and all, all that ridiculous stuff. It's like, look, I will be the first to admit it. It's true. It is ridiculous. It is. It is ridiculous. There should be better people. There should be better people.

It's just that you guys suck so much that I can fuck all of you up. This is why I wreck these guys every time they're willing to debate to the point that I don't think too many of them are going to be willing to debate anymore. There's someone was trying to set. Oh, it was a Josie, the redheaded libertarian on Twitter. She was trying to set up a debate on the woke, right? And between me and James limbs, James Lindsay. And I was like, yeah, absolutely. I'll do it. And he was like, no, not doing that. And of course not. Why would they is none of you guys have lost the fucking argument because your argument is built off lies and

blood. That's it. No one's going to stop using neocon as a pejorative because Mark Levin threatened them. Keep ranting. Keep, keep, keep your dumb rants coming. Please. It's just more content. Please keep them coming. Sorry. You guys, it's in, listen, keep your dumb rants coming. Please. It's just more content. Please keep them coming. Sorry. You guys it's in, listen, I've say what you will about me. There's far more educated people than me. I've read like everything the neocons have ever fucking written. I know all the shit they wrote in the project for a new American century. I know their whole clean break strategy and their whole seven countries in five years strategy read everything they've written and you don't get to walk away from that now, especially people like Mark Levin

who fucking supported it from a, from a position of power, you know, there's somebody having a real influence. Uh, one of the biggest right wing talk radio show hosts in the country. You supported every one of these catastrophic wars and now that they've all ended in disaster, you got to deal with being called the Neo con for it. So fuck Neo cons. And we're never going to stop saying that word. Okay. That's the show for today. Thank you guys so much for listening. I do appreciate it. I'll see some of you guys out there at the so hope forum tomorrow night,

really looking forward to it. Catch you guys tomorrow. Peace.