Passion Struck with John R. Miles - Could the Human–Dog Bond Be the Antidote for Loneliness? w/ John R. Miles | EP 690

Episode Date: November 14, 2025

What if the cure for modern loneliness… was sitting right beside you?In this powerful solo episode of Passion Struck, host John R. Miles explores the ancient, biological, and emotional forc...es behind the human–dog bond and why it may be one of the most potent antidotes to isolation in our accelerated, camera-off, hyper-distracted world.Drawing on insights from Elias Weiss Friedman (The Dogist) and Amina AlTai, John unpacks how dogs became our first empathy teachers, how belonging shapes every aspect of human flourishing, and why connection is the real currency of a meaningful life.You’ll discover how a 14,000-year-old partnership rewired our brains for companionship, what “the belonging equation” reveals about modern relationships, and why the micro-moments we share with dogs hold the blueprint for healing loneliness in families, teams, workplaces, and communities.This episode continues our acclaimed series, The Irreplaceables — a journey through the human capacities no algorithm can replace.If you’ve ever felt disconnected, invisible, or hungry for deeper relationships, this episode is your invitation to rebuild the bonds that make life matter.Read the full show notes here:Listen + Watch + Go DeeperAll episode resources—including my books You Matter, Luma and Passion Struck, The Ignited Life Substack, and Start Mattering store—are gathered here:👉 linktr.ee/John_R_MilesTo go deeper, download the free companion workbook:The Connection Compass — available now at TheIgnitedLife.netInside, you’ll find reflection prompts, science-backed exercises, and conversation starters to help you strengthen your empathy muscles, audit your relationships, and rebuild belonging in your everyday life.🧠 About the EpisodeDiscover how the human–dog bond became one of evolution’s greatest hacks for emotional regulation and safety.Learn why belonging isn’t accidental — it’s built through predictable patterns of trust, attention, and repeated positive regard.Explore the neuroscience behind loneliness, and why dogs may activate the same circuitry that heals social pain.Understand how modern work is unintentionally designing disconnection — and what Amina AlTai’s research reveals about rebuilding community and purpose.Gain practical steps to create a “purpose-aligned tribe” in your life: at home, at work, and in the relationships that matter most.Support the MovementEveryone deserves to feel seen, valued, and like they matter.Show it. Wear it. Live it.👉 StartMattering.comSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Coming up next, I'm Passionstruck. Revolution 1 began 14,000 years ago in Germany, where archaeologists found the oldest known grave of humans and dogs together, a quiet pact of protection and belonging. Revolution 2 sparked when Darwin realized that our expressions connect us with animals, reaching back further than writing or the wheel. Revolution 3 is playing out now in our tech-driven world. Co-working, silent Slack channels, and Zoom grids,
Starting point is 00:00:38 where connection fades into loneliness. But every dog already knows. Connection isn't a luxury. It's our original operating system. Today, we script a counter-revolution. Welcome to Passionstruck. I'm your host, John Miles. This is the show where we explore the art of
Starting point is 00:00:58 of human flourishing and what it truly means to live like it matters. Each week, I sit down with change makers, creators, scientists, and everyday heroes to decode the human experience and uncover the tools that help us lead with meaning, heal what hurts, and pursue the fullest expression of who we're capable of becoming.
Starting point is 00:01:18 Whether you're designing your future, developing as a leader, or seeking deeper alignment in your life, this show is your invitation to grow with purpose and act with intention. Because the secret, to a life of deep purpose, connection, and impact is choosing to live like you matter.
Starting point is 00:01:41 Hey, friends, welcome to episode 690 of Passionstruck. I'm your host John Miles, and this is the place where science meets soul, where data becomes devotion, and where we turn the invisible threads of human connection into superpowers you can feel in your bones. last week we kicked off a brand new series called the irreplaceables the human capacities no algorithm can touch we started with emotional self-regulation and presence the quiet art of showing up as you are without letting the moment hijack you this week we zoom out from the self to the system the relational web that decides whether we thrive or just survive if you missed it we already had two powerhouse conversations this week the first was with elias wise freedman or as millions know know him, the doggist. And he walked us through New York City streets with a camera and a rescue
Starting point is 00:02:32 pub, proving that a three-legged pit bull can teach empathy faster than any TED Talk. Then yesterday, Amina Altai flipped the script on modern work, showing how purpose, well-being, and contribution aren't perks. They're the new KPI. Today, in my solo deep dive, we're stitching their wisdom into a three-act relationship revolution. We'll travel from prehistoric caves to mirror neuron labs to your next one-on-one meeting and we'll leave with a toolkit so practical your dog will high-five you. Here's the map. First, we'll go through Revolution 1 and we'll explore the co-evolution contract. Then we'll step inside Revolution 2 and we'll discuss the empathy gym. And then we'll dive into Revolution 3, where I will expose you to the purpose-aligned tribe
Starting point is 00:03:22 and woven throughout the belonging equation, the two variables that turn strangers into a pack. If this podcast has ever inspired you or helped you live and lead more intentionally, here are two quick ways to help it grow. First, share this episode with someone who matters to you, a teammate, a partner, a friend who could use a reminder that connection is still our greatest strength. Second, leave a five-star rating or review on Apple Podcast or Spotify. It takes less than a minute, but it's the single best way to help new listeners discover these conversations, and join this growing community of intentional leaders.
Starting point is 00:03:55 If you'd like to go deeper with today's episode, I've created a free companion workbook over on the ignitedlife.net, my substack. It's called the Connection Compass, a simple but powerful guide to help you audit your relationships, strengthen your empathy muscles, and rebuild belonging in your everyday life.
Starting point is 00:04:14 Inside, you'll find reflection prompts, science-back exercises, and conversation starters you can use with your team, your family, or your pack. You can download it right after the episode. But before we dive in, I'd love to hear from you. What's one small moment of genuine connection you've had recently that reminded you're not alone? Maybe it was a friend who checked in at just the right time, a barista who remembered your name
Starting point is 00:04:37 or a dog who rested their head on your knee. Share it in the comments on the ignited life or tag me on socials. I'll be featuring a few of your stories in the next week's newsletter. Because when we share our moments of connection, we remind the words. world and ourselves that we still matter to each other. All right, let's light the fuse. Thank you for choosing Passion Struck and choosing me to be your host and guide on your journey to creating an attention to life. Now, let that journey begin. Picture two silhouettes on the edge of a Pleistocene forest. One is smaller, ears slightly flopped, eyes wide, a juvenile wolf with less aggr
Starting point is 00:05:21 and more curiosity than any wild pack would tolerate. The other is you, hairless, toolmaking, fire-stealing homo sapiens, scanning the tree line for movement. For one heartbeat, you lock eyes. No words, no shared language. Just a pause between your gaze and the wolf's limbic system. A flicker of recognition measured in synapse and heartbeat. Fast forward through millennia.
Starting point is 00:05:51 That moment became a contract written in DNA. Although the origins are still debated, some whisper of 36,000-year-old wolf skulls in Belgium. 33,000-year-old remains in Siberia. But the oldest, undisputed proof, lives in a gravel pit near Bonn, Germany, 14,200 years ago, a puppy, barely seven months old, Milk teeth still in place, was laid to rest beside two humans. Red okra dusted their bones, antler tools, and polished stones cradled the grave. This wasn't disposal. This was reverence.
Starting point is 00:06:39 Geneticists at the Max Planck Institute sequenced 700 ancient dog genomes in 2023. Their verdict, dogs didn't just tolerate us. They chose us. A single mutation in the WB-SCR-17 gene reshaped their facial muscles. In other words, their genes changed. Their faces softened. Their eyes became invitation instead of threats. This is pedomorphosis, the evolutionary hack that makes a 70-pound shepherd look like a perpetual puppy. Translation, this was a contract between animals and humans that read, look at me and feel the same protective flood you feel for your own child. We signed the other half our oxytocin receptors upregulated in response.
Starting point is 00:07:36 A 2015 study in Science Magazine found that 30 minutes of mutual gaze between a human and a dog spikes osytocin levels in humans by 300% and in dogs by 130%, mirroring the biochemical bond between a mother and her infant during breastfeeding. This is co-evolution on steroids. When your dog tilts her head at your tone, she's running a real-time empathy simulation. When you apologize for being late, and he thumps his tail anyway, he's modeling unconditional positive regard, a skill most therapists charge $200 an hour to install. Archaeology doubles down. Neolithic sites in Arabia and the Americas revealed dogs
Starting point is 00:08:31 with arthritis and healed fractures were living decades past wildlife span because humans fed them, carried them. Carried. These weren't tools. They were external prefrontal cortices, emotional regulators in a chaotic world. As Elias Wise Friedman, the doggis told me earlier in the week, dogs don't wonder, what if I fail? They just move forward, leading with trust. In a world that trains us to earn belonging through output, maybe that's the real intelligence we've lost. Or as Amina also, Altai reminded us our value isn't in our productivity, and dogs never forget that. Okay, hold that circuitry in your mind. That same neuro zip line that lights up when your dog size in his sleep is the exact zip line atrophying in our camera off culture. Silent Slack channels
Starting point is 00:09:32 at 501 p.m. headphones as cubicle walls, 14 black zoom boxes staring back like tombstead. But every time your dog scoots closer in the dark, he or she reboots the system. Because connection is not a nice to have. It is the original operating system, the one that built tribes, tamed fire, and taught us to matter by being seen. And that revolution, it starts with one gaze, one name, one, I'm home. And that brings me to something I've learned through the years. from archaeologist, geneticists, and every dog who ever leaned in, the right gaze invites
Starting point is 00:10:16 belonging. And belonging, not utility, is the currency of real connection. So here's a question for you to sit with. How can one small act of being seen a name, a pause, a I noticed, rebuild trust in your world? You can share your story in the comments on the ignited life or posted on social using hashtag relationship revolution. Also, I just announced my first children's book, You Matter Luma, a beautifully illustrated story about a little bunny who feels too small to matter until she discovers her light changes everything. It's a story about belonging, empathy, and self-worth inspired by the same ancient bond we're exploring in today's episode. You Matter Luma is now available for pre-order at Barnes & Noble. When you pre-order, you're helping
Starting point is 00:11:06 bring the message of mattering to families everywhere. Visit you matterluma.com to learn more. Now, a quick word from our sponsors. Thank you for supporting those who support the show. It truly helps us keep bringing you conversations that matter. You're listening to Passionstruck on the PassionStruck Network. So far, we've explored how a wolf's gaze became our superpower. But what happens when that same circuitry powers, empathy in the streets of Manhattan?
Starting point is 00:11:40 That's where we're headed next with Elias Wise Friedman and the three-second pause that changes everything. Elias walks the sidewalks of Manhattan with a camera and a quiet rule. Not about aperture, not about light, about presence. He calls it the three-second pause. It's his lived method, not a lab protocol. And here is how it goes. You crouch, you wait, you hold eye contact, until the dog looks away first. Elias has photographed 60,000 dogs.
Starting point is 00:12:16 He says in those three heartbeats, something shifts. The dog's ears flick from orienting, threat or friend, to affiliative or good. A tail wag, a soft exhale. The door to empathy cracks open. Why three seconds, you might ask? It's the average window Elias has observed, not a stopwatch study, but street-level truth. Behavior science backs the rhythm. According to the K-9 Cognition Center, dogs assess novel stimuli in under five seconds.
Starting point is 00:12:52 But Elias isn't citing papers. He's citing Luna, the three-legged pit bull, who froze on 14th Street, until second 2.8. when she leaned in for a nosebop that went viral. Now, let's bring in the belonging equation. A narrative synthesis rooted in decades of social psychology. It goes like this. Belonging equals perceived similarity plus repeated positive regard. So let's examine the first variable, perceived similarity.
Starting point is 00:13:30 Mirror neurons discovered in macaquee monkeys in the 1990s don't care about species. They fire when you predict another's action. A 2021 Pina study found that a dog's tail wag at 1 to 5 hertz synchronizes human heart rate variability in under 7 seconds. That rhythm? That's the oldest I see you in the animal kingdom. now let's look at variable two repeated positive regard one dopamine hit equals curiosity seven hits in a week that equals attachment elias's instagram account proves it post the same rescue pup monday wednesday and friday engagement doubles followers experience repeated positive regard by proxy they're not just scrolling they're joining a micro tribe now Translate this to humans, you walk into your neighborhood coffee shop. You're greeted by a barista wearing an ab tag that says, J-A-Y.
Starting point is 00:14:37 Your default move, I'll take a medium latte. But here's the revolutionary move. You say, hey, Jay, you nailed the foam art last week. Trying to top it today, that's perceived similarity. You remembered and repeated positive regard when you affirmed. The cost to you, just four seconds. The return on investment, Jay remembers you tomorrow. So say you want to scale it.
Starting point is 00:15:05 Imagine you're walking into a dog park that you frequent often. Usually you walk in and you just mind your own business. But today, you decide to do something different. You make eye contact with someone you met a couple days ago and you use their name. Next, you give them a microcomplement. Luna Zumi's are legendary. Later on, you create a future pact. You tell them, I'll see you on Thursday.
Starting point is 00:15:31 Then, seven interactions later, you've created your own Microtribe with no app required. Or, as Elias puts it, before you get a dog, you know your neighbor. After you get a dog, you know your entire neighborhood. Now, the counter example. What happens when belonging fails? A 2023 nature-human behavior meta-analysis found that zero micro-belonging moments per week resulted in a 38% cortisol spike and a 31% drop in creative problem-solving. Now, let's take this to the workforce.
Starting point is 00:16:13 According to a 2025 Gallup report, hybrid workers averaging less than three name uses per day, report 79% higher emotional exhaustion. This is social famine. But dogs, they're the antidote. Let me tell you about the story when Alliance met Milo, a shelter dog who flinched at shadows. When Elias met the owner, he told him, Milo is unadoptable. But Elias decided to take matters into his own hands. He crouched, three second pause. Milo froze. Then Army crawled forward. one nosebop, one photo, one adoption the next day. Sometimes a photograph is a kind of healing, Elias told me. He went on to say when someone sees their dog
Starting point is 00:17:05 through someone else's eyes, it reminds them that love is visible. That's the empathy gym in action. Here's the parallel in humans. Service dog training at canine companions. Handlers learn the three-second vulnerability window. vulnerability window. Hold eye contact. Name the emotion aloud. I see you're anxious. I'm here. The result? According to a 2024 report in the Journal of Traumatic Stress, PTSD veterans report a 42% drop and hypervigilance within 90 days. Research shows that frequent positive social encounters
Starting point is 00:17:47 reduce stress, boost immunity, and sharpen cognition. The exact seven moments equals a 42% cortisol drop isn't in one paper, but the directional truth is ironclad across over 40 studies. What this tells us is that dogs have been running this experiment on us for 14,000 years. Every time you linger with a stranger's pup, every time you send, I noticed you crushed that presentation. You're flexing the empathy muscle evolution built. You see, the gym is open 24 by 7, but how do you use the equipment?
Starting point is 00:18:28 Your eyes, your voice, your willingness to be seen. Connection isn't fluffy. It is the original operating system, the one that turned caves into villages, strangers into allies, and loneliness into legacy. So step inside, hold the gaze, speak the name, offer the micro-affirmation. The revolution starts with three seconds, one heartbeat, one dog at a time. But connection isn't only something from our past. It's what we're all trying to find again, even now in moments that look nothing like community.
Starting point is 00:19:12 It's 9.07 a.m. on a Tuesday. Your laptop glows like a campfire you no longer gather around. Slack fires up. 47 unread messages scroll by. Updates, pings, and that endless streak of just circling back. But how many of those messages use your name? How many ask about you? Not just your output.
Starting point is 00:19:39 Welcome to modern work. Gallup's 2025 state of the global workplace paints the picture in drastic terms. 25% of fully remote workers experience daily loneliness. That's nearly double the 16% for on-site teams. The water cooler? Gone. Replaced by emoji reactions. How are you? Shrunk to circle back. In a world with more tools but less touch, how do we find our tribe, one that fights for us,
Starting point is 00:20:18 not just with us. Today we're diving into what it means to build a purpose-aligned tribe in a disconnected world. Yesterday on the show, we were joined virtually through wisdom, not wires, by Amina Altai. She's a career alchemist, a burnout whisperer, and a woman who learned the hard way that chasing success without belonging will break the body before it builds the dream. Today, her mission is to help us remember that ambition isn't about doing more. It's about becoming whole together. It starts with presence. Amina teaches that success and belonging aren't individual pursuits. They're realized in community. Her signature move, a simple but revolutionary six-question retro that turns any meaning into a mirror for meaning. So if you can, jot these down. Yes,
Starting point is 00:21:15 even if you're driving, pull over for a second and grab a pen. They're that worth it. Here are the six. Ready to write them down? The first, what energized me this week? The second, what drained me? The third, where do I feel most seen? The fourth, where do I feel most invisible? The fifth, who do I want to contribute to next? And who do I want to become with? That last one, that's the revolution. Because purpose isn't a solo sport. It's a pack activity.
Starting point is 00:21:54 Brut into us like heartbeat and breath. So let's see this in action. Amina shared a remarkable story from Shopify's engineering team. On onboarding day, new hires aren't asking. about code and no one cares about KPIs. Instead, everyone's invited to share three slides. None of them are about work. The first is a childhood photo.
Starting point is 00:22:19 The second is a personal mantra. And the third is a burning question for the team. The result? That simple ritual changed everything. Psychological safety scores soared up 38% in just 90 days. Voluntary turnover dropped by 22%. Amina put it best. It was a culture shift born from curiosity, not compliance.
Starting point is 00:22:46 But belonging doesn't start with metrics. It starts with meaning. I hope you still have a pen out to jot down this next exercise. In a world where meetings feel like battlegrounds, here's how to build a real tribe in just 90 seconds. I call them the three R's. Regulate, reveal, and reinforce.
Starting point is 00:23:14 First R, regulate. Start every meeting with one sentence that names your energy level so everyone can see you as human first and colleague second. For example, you might say, right now, I'm running on 60%. Pause.
Starting point is 00:23:34 let it land. That single act instantly lowers armor, raises trust, and turns a room of strangers into a circle of allies. The goal is to replace How Are You Small Talk with real-time empathy
Starting point is 00:23:52 in eight seconds flat. The second R reveal. Drop one human detail. For example, my dog ate my AirPod again. and laugh. Now, the room breathes. Vulnerability isn't risk, it's permission. Third R, reinforce, and every one-on-one like this. One thing I appreciate about working with you is, Bill in the
Starting point is 00:24:24 blank, say it, mean it. Ten seconds, one week changed. Three R's, 90s, seconds, a tribe that has your back, even when the camera's off. Maybe you're not a big company right now. Maybe you're building your dreams at midnight with a freelance discord or sketching your next idea while your dog curls up at your feet. Your tribe is who you choose. Your mastermind group, your mentor, your family, even the friend who texts, hey, Are you good when the world goes quiet?
Starting point is 00:25:06 The equation doesn't scale with head count. It scales with the courage to be seen. Amina knows this firsthand. Before she became a coach and speaker, she was burning out at the intersection of big goals and little belonging. Chronic illness forced her to stop and ask, who do I want to become with? World transformation doesn't happen alone.
Starting point is 00:25:32 it begins with connection. When she started rebuilding her life, she didn't just find her footing. She rebuilt her tribe. That tribe rebuilt her in return. You see, every thank you text, every moment of honesty, every you matter to me,
Starting point is 00:25:51 resets the operating system. So as we close this beat, ask yourself, who helps you feel seen enough to become who you're meant to be? Because legacy isn't an individual highlight reel. It's a tapestry of courageous connections, woven one check-in, one appreciation, one act of presence at a time. We began today's discussion both in legend and in
Starting point is 00:26:18 science in a Pleistocene forest beneath open sky when a wolf and a human locked eyes and the first bridge between species was built. That moment became a promise. We've been trying to keep ever since. Today, we renew it, to notice, to name, and to nurture the bonds that make us human. The relationship revolution won't happen in code or clicks. It lives in the warmth of a three-second gaze. In the courage to say, I noticed what you did, and it mattered. in the small rituals that turn colleagues into allies and neighbors into chosen family. Elias reminded us, connection starts when you pause long enough for the dog or the person to lean in first. Almena taught us that belonging isn't built by doing more.
Starting point is 00:27:14 It's born from becoming more whole together. So here's your three-day micro-revolution challenge. three small experiments to reboot your belonging circuitry. Do them all. Share your reflections with hashtag Relationships Revolution. I'll feature a few in next week's newsletter. Day one, practice the three-day vulnerability window. In your next human interaction, hold eye contact one heartbeat longer than feels necessary.
Starting point is 00:27:44 Use their name. Add a micro-affirmation, a simple truth about what you see and appreciate. Notice how empathy awakens in the pause. Day two, send the I Notice text. Choose one co-worker or friend. Then send this. I noticed you fill in the blank about you this week. It mattered.
Starting point is 00:28:07 No emoji, no filler. Just your honest attention. The ultimate antidote to invisibility. And then day three, the pack walk. Invite someone on a 15-minute walk and talk. side by side, no agenda. If remote, call while you both walk. Shared moments sink your rhythms.
Starting point is 00:28:28 Silent companionship builds trust at a cellular level. Before the weekends, record a 60-second voice memo to your dog. Apologize for something silly. Then play it back as if you're the dog, soaking in the kindness. That's self-compassion, extending the same positive regard you give other. inward. This is how we start the micro-revolution. One gaze, one name, one act at a time. The original operating system connection is waiting for you to log back in. And when you do, you won't just belong. You'll matter. If today's episode gave you a new lens on connection or helped you feel
Starting point is 00:29:14 less alone in the noise, here's how you can pay the fee. Share this episode with one person who needs more connection in your life. Leave a five-star rating on Apple Podcast or Spotify. It's how new listeners find the Mattering Revolution. Subscribe to the ignitedlife.net. My free substack for key takeaways, workbooks, and behind the scenes. And don't forget to pre-order my new children's book, You Matter Luma, at Barnes & Noble,
Starting point is 00:29:39 because every child deserves to know that they are seen. Next week, we continue the irreplaceables with Scott D. Anthony, clinical professor at the Tuck School of Business at Dartmouth, an author of the new book, The Eleven Epic Disruptions. He joins me for a powerful discussion on the human side of innovation. Why, imagination, not iteration drives the future. We'll explore what it means to lead as pattern breakers in an algorithmic world, drawn from Scott's 20 years at Inocyte, where he's helped triple Revenues, expand globally, and advise CEOs on six continents. You need this duality, almost a paradox in your mind, where you are simultaneously thinking
Starting point is 00:30:25 about long-term future and present reality, recognizing if you don't care and deliver for today, you don't earn the right to do tomorrow, but if you don't have a vision, a direction to which you're trying to go to for tomorrow, the efforts that you have in today are going to be misguided or even counterproductive. And the thing that I generally counsel leaders to do is make sure that you just stop and you apply different timeframes and mental models as you're looking at different things that you are trying to decide around. Until next time, remember, to matter is to be seen. And the revolution starts with one gaze, one name, one I noticed. This is John Miles. You've been passion struck. Now go.
Starting point is 00:31:12 start the revolution.

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