Passion Struck with John R. Miles - Finnian Kelly on How You Recode Your Mind and Manifest You EP 477

Episode Date: July 9, 2024

In this episode of Passion Struck, I had the pleasure of diving deep into the world of intentional living with Finnian Kelly, the visionary founder of Intentionality Inc. Finian is a celebrated speaker, high-performance coach, and master breathwork facilitator. His mission is to revolutionize how we approach our lives, work, and relationships through his groundbreaking intentionality methodology.Order a copy of my book, "Passion Struck: Twelve Powerful Principles to Unlock Your Purpose and Ignite Your Most Intentional Life," today!  Recognized as a 2024 must-read by the Next Big Idea Club, the book has won the Business Minds Best Book Award, the Eric Hoffer Award, the International Book Awards for Best Non-Fiction, the 2024 Reader’s Choice Contest by Connections eMagazine, and the Non-Fiction Book Awards Gold Medal. Don't miss out on the opportunity to transform your life with these powerful principles!Full show notes and resources can be found here: https://passionstruck.com/finnian-kelly-recode-your-mind-and-manifest-you/In this episode, you will learn:The importance of focusing on the present moment and how it can lead to insights and intelligenceThe concept of intentionality and how it involves identifying how you want to feel and taking steps to make it a realityThe role of breath in grounding us, connecting us to others, and helping us make better decisionsThe significance of energy and how it relates to attracting the reality we want in life through our energy centersThe interconnectedness of internal and external energy and how it influences our experiences and outcomesAll things Finnian Kelly: https://www.finniankelly.com/Brought to you by Clariton, fast and powerful relief is just a quick trip away. Ask for Claritin-D at your local pharmacy counter. You don’t even need a prescription! Go to “CLARITIN DOT COM” right now for a discount so you can Live Claritin Clear.--► For information about advertisers and promo codes, go to:https://passionstruck.com/deals/Catch More of Passion StruckWatch my solo episode on Create Work-Life Balance: 9 Simple Ways.Can’t miss my episode withDr. Mark Hyman on the Secrets to Living Young ForeverListen to my interview withDr. Kara Fitzgerald on How to Become a Younger You by Reversing Your Biological AgeCatch my interview with Dr. Mark Hyman on How Personalized Medicine Is Revolutionizing HealthcareListen to my solo episode on 7 Reasons Why Acts of Kindness Are More than Meets the Eye.Like this show? Please leave us a review here-- even one sentence helps! Consider including your Twitter or Instagram handle so we can thank you personally!

Coming up next on Passion Strike. I really love the word grounded because it really connects to what happens when you don't live in the comparison world. You practice presence. And this is one of the key intentions of intentionality is practice presence over comparison. When we're present, we are now living here and now we're grounded and we're not living in this fictitious story of the future or the past, which is where the ego hangs out. And the only place that our true divinity lives is here in this present moment. And when we drop into the present moment, we allow some intelligence and insights to start coming through us. And that's where the greatness

really lies. Welcome to Passion Struck. Hi, I'm your host, John R. Miles. And on the show, we decipher the secrets, tips and guidance of the world's most inspiring people and turn their wisdom into practical advice for you and those around you. Our mission is to help you unlock the power of intentionality so that you can become the best version of yourself. If you're new to the show, I offer advice and answer listener questions on Fridays. We have long- form interviews the rest of the week with guests ranging from astronauts to authors, CEOs, creators, innovators, scientists, military leaders,

visionaries, and athletes. Now, let's go out there and become passion struck. Hello everyone, and welcome back to episode 478 of Passion Struck, Consistently ranked as the number one alternative health podcast and a heartfelt thank you to each and every one of you who return to the show every week eager to listen to learn and to discover new ways to live better to be better and most importantly to make a meaningful impact in the world. If you're new to the show thank you so much for being here or you simply want to introduce this to a friend or a

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You can purchase it at both Amazon as well as find it on passionstruck.com. In case you missed it, last week I had fantastic interviews with Amy Lee McCree and Peter Jesiewicz. Amy is a medical intuitive and author of the new book Aura Alchemy. We discussed how when you master your aura, you master your life. Dr. Peter Jesiewicz joined me to discuss his new book, Hospitable Healthcare, and the revolutionary idea of approaching patient care the same way we expect to be taken care of in a hotel or a restaurant. And if you liked either of those previous episodes or today's, we would so appreciate you giving it a five star rating in review. They go such a long way in strengthening the Passion Star community where we can help more

people to create an intentional life. And I know we and our guests love to hear your feedback. Today, we're diving deep into the world of intentional living with Finian Kelly, the visionary founder of Intentionality Inc. who's a celebrated speaker, high performance coach and master breathwork facilitator. Finian is on a mission to revolutionize the way we approach our lives, our work, and our relationships through his groundbreaking intentionality methodology. Imagine a world where 80% of our thoughts are not negative and we're not doomed to repeat 90% of them day in and day out. That's the reality Finian is striving to create.

His journey has taken him from personal trauma and monumental setbacks to becoming a beacon of transformation for leaders and for individuals across the globe. His story isn't just about overcoming, but about radically transforming the way we think, feel, and act. In his latest book, Intentionality, a groundbreaking guide to breath consciousness and radical self-transformation, Finian lays out a blueprint that challenges the conventional hustle culture. It prioritizes a feelings-first approach, helping us find peace and purpose in a world obsessed with outcomes and productivity. Dubbed the business mystic, Finian's insights have been featured on platforms like National Geographic and have reached over tens of thousands worldwide through his transformative

breathwork sessions. Today he's here to share his profound insights and practical tools from his book, which promises not only to guide us, but to transform our entire outlook on life. Get ready to learn about the five key elements of living with intention, how to recode your mind, and the scientific process of manifesting your deepest desires into reality. So if you're ready to break free from negativity and repetitiveness of your daily thoughts and step into a life of intentional living, this episode is a must-listen. Thank you for choosing Passion Struck and choosing me to be your host and guide on your journey to creating an intentional life.

Now, let that journey begin. I am absolutely thrilled and extremely honored today to have Finnean Kelly on Passion Struck. Welcome, Finnean. Thanks, John. I'm really excited as well because we speak a very similar language. So not only that, but before we came on the show, I asked you where your accent was from and I guessed it was from Australia. What I didn't tell you is that I spent about three years of my life living in Sydney and I was working at the time for a company you might have heard of called Lenlis.

So I'm very familiar with Australia. In fact, I absolutely loved the culture of work hard, play hard. And especially being in my early thirties at the time, it was an absolute honor and pleasure to have worked there and experienced so many amazing people and other things. Yeah. Especially in Sydney, that culture is, it's just, oh, it's everything. I don't know where you lived, but I lived in Coogee in Sydney and everyone's beautiful bodies, they're running, they're partying, they're working.

It's just an all in culture. Yeah, manly. And used to just take the commuter boat over back and forth. Isn't that a nice way to start the morning? Like you talk about pointing, I mean, just get on a boat, look at the most beautiful harbour bridge in the world, get pointing, just get on a boat, look at the most beautiful harbour bridge in the world, get, have a coffee on the way, and then just walking to work. It really is special.

Yeah. When I initially started working there before they built their new headquarters, we were in one Australia square and you're probably familiar with the round building there and our views were just breathtaking up there. So it was absolutely an incredible time of my life. I'm really glad you had that experience. And it's so funny. I've lived now in America for nearly a decade and it's everyone when they meet me, one,

I'm like, oh, we've gotten an Australian and they love it. Hence why I'm in Australia. It's just, I'm a novelty. And then the second is they always, well, I just wish I could go to Australia. And I always just sit there a little bit down-plugged and I went, you can, like, but you just get on a plane, but for some reason they just think it's out of their reach and I'm always so happy when I meet someone who's lived in Australia. Yeah.

Phenomenal. Well, speaking of Australia, I always like to start these episodes by going through your story a little bit. I wanted to ask, how did your early childhood experiences shape the habits and belief systems that you ended up carrying into adulthood? Well, it's a lot of what my work is about. It's, I'm covering that there was so much about my childhood impacting my life. And unfortunately, I wasn't fully aware of the impact until it created a scenario

in my thirties, which forced me to go and have a really deep look at it. But ultimately what I learned were a few things. I grew up on a farm in remote Tasmania and I, there was, I had a mother who was a doctor, conventional path. My father was a musician and always starting different businesses. So from a young age, I knew the power of making your own money. And I would earn money mowing lawn, selling pine cones, selling sheep and you were a fertilizer.

So I always had a bit of a financial independence in that regard. And there's, it's not by chance that I probably, my first business was starting in financial advice and wealth management because of that. And there was a few events where I didn't really feel like the story that I was telling myself was that I didn't feel safe in my family. I didn't feel the love that I needed. And that created a deep desire for independence. And I was really focusing a lot of the time on, all right, how do I make sure

that I'm not relying on anyone else? How do I get myself into the best situations in order to set myself up for the greatest opportunities? So I remember playing tennis and I look at the other young boys and girls who were playing tennis in the juniors and I looked at them and they had their parents there and they'll like had really nice cars and they had certain tennis rackets and clothes and shoes, which were great. And then every so often I'm getting invited over to their place and I started

realizing, whoa, that's a life that I wanted. It felt, it wasn't just, it wasn't the material side, but it just felt nicer and more loving and more supportive. So I started wondering, well, how do I spend more time with these people? And I identified that there was one school that they were going to. And I asked my parents, can I go to this school? And they said only if you get a scholarship. So then I went, okay, how do I get a scholarship to the school?

And I focused on academics and got a scholarship and I got myself into the school. And that was my ticket into this group of people. And through their experiences, I started forming a view on life. And I spent as much time with them as possible and learned from them. And that was a really very defining part of my upbringing was being around other friends' families. And at the same time, what was quite interesting was in my group of friends, we were all, it was an interesting group in my year where we were the academics and also we were the

jocks and we all got, the focus was in the school that I was in, it was like, if you were smart, the best thing was to be a doctor. My mom was a doctor, my friend's parents were being doctors. So we all went, oh, let's get into medicine. And I applied for medicine, but I also applied for many other things. I wanted as many options as possible. That was a real theme of my childhood is like, write as many options as possible. Cause I felt limited in my construct and I got into medicine and I remember being at a party with my friends

celebrating that we're getting into medicine, that we're all going on this life together. And I just knew at my core, I did not want to be a doctor. I didn't respect the medical profession. I witnessed the challenges that it had in my family, my grandparents were doctors and my uncle was a doctor as well. My mum was a doctor. and I just went, I don't want that life. And I, through AIDS, it was effectively an egoic decision. I started thinking, well, I don't, I have to do something cooler than being a doctor because otherwise it's going to feel really weird. And I ended up seeing a helicopter pilot in the army came to our school and I went,

well, maybe that sounds cooler. And I applied to do that. I went, well, maybe that sounds cooler. And I applied to do that. I ended up getting into that and that started off a military career. And it wasn't the career for me, but I'm very glad that it got me out of the path of medicine, because that was the conventional path and I would have been miserable. And I share this story because it just shows how these little things in our lives end up pushing us down a path. And we think this is what we want, but it's not.

It's actually through the conditioning and the programming that we're in. And if I was, for example, grew up in another school in another state of Australia, actually I probably would have been put into investment banking because I was a math and I was very smart with maths. I was very good at sales. I liked that experience, but we didn't even have that exposure in where I grew up in Tasmania. So I want people to always question, like one of the great questions

that you can ask is like, what do you want? And I ask that to people all the time and there's either three different scenarios, they either have no idea what they want or what they want isn't what they actually want. It's been a conditioned program or the third is they don't believe they can have what they want. And we've got to transcend that and get clarity through a self-discovery. And this is where intentionality can come through is to go, I'm actually

going to start living my life on my terms. Thank you for sharing that. And I think what you're describing is a condition that so many people find themselves in. I actually wrote about it in my book that came out in February. And that is I found for a significant portion of my adulthood, I was wearing what I refer to as the mask of pretense. I was showing up inauthentically doing this career where I was making great money but didn't feel fulfilled by anything that I was doing

yet I felt stuck there because I had now grown into the house that we were living in, the cars we were driving, the lifestyle we were doing, and I couldn't figure out how to navigate my way out of it for many years until a couple of defining moments happened in my life that gave me the clarity and also that push to do something different. And I think we all have defining moments in life. Was there a story or two that changed your own worldview? You've just talked about one, but have there been others?

Yeah, there's been many, John. So one was when I created a vision when I started my first business with my partner. And it was this idea of, okay, we actually, it was a really interesting opportunity when we first met, we fell in love and we went, well, let's go travel the world. And we booked a trip to South America. We were like, let's just go adventuring for a couple of years. And then this business opportunity came up very early on in our relationship. And it seemed almost too good to be, to not take this opportunity.

And probably when I look back, a little bit of scarcity, a little bit of ego came through to go, no, we've got to do this because otherwise I'm falling behind my friends who are doing really well. And the way we justified it was, well, let's still, let's go on a trip. And so in the first year of business, we took a month off and we traveled, but let's make travel a regular part, but let's build a company and then sell it and then be financially free and then go travel as much as we want. So we created this vision for a five year journey to sell a company

and then we'll go overseas. And in that time we had incredible success in companies. We actually started multiple companies we sold and we sold two by the time that sort of vision was ended being over. We ended up moving to America, lived in a ski resort, a big mansion. And it was a really interesting experience because I had sold myself a story that. When I achieve all of this, when this occurs, then I can enjoy life. And I still enjoyed life in that time, but it was like, I'll feel peace and I'll feel

content. And we got there, we actually achieved our vision, which most people don't in their life. So they live in, they can just live in the illusion of, well, I've got to keep going in the vision, but we actually achieved that vision. And it was actually one of the most confronting times because the illusion came crashing down and then a series of events occurred, which seemed all random. But they actually occurred at once, which created basically a huge

disruption in my life, which resulted in a legal suit in a business, financial loss, feeling burnt out in another business, returning all the capital out of our own financial means. So there was a financial burden there, father-in-law dying. And then ultimately the greatest abandonment, which was the end of my relationship with my wife. And it came very confronting. And that was the moment where I was forced to really look internally and go

in, well, I can't trick myself anymore. Like that path of, well, I'll just, I've just got to keep achieving all these things and do this and then I'll feel that way because I'd actually already done that. And I started going, okay, well, I'm the common denominator here. I need to really take accountability for my life if I want this transformation. And I need to start exploring what, what is happening below the surface. Cause consciously I was living a very intentional life and it still wasn't working. And that's when I went through a deep discovery of understanding how the mind

works, looking at the different ancient spiritual and texts and scripture and looking at what are the common themes. And that's when I started pulling back everything back from my childhood and looking going, wow, I haven't really had free will this whole time. I haven't been making decisions what I really want. It's just been a byproduct of a series of other decisions that came from potentially a faulty perspective from a child who just didn't really know what was going on and made these interpretations to protect themselves, but it wasn't working for me anymore.

And the great paradox was what achieved all my success, like how I was winning awards, achieving financial independence, all these things that other people looked at my life and went was incredible. It was also the piece that pulled me down. And that's been my big lesson is that whatever is built on the foundations, it will always come through. And if your foundation is built on negative belief loops, eventually that negative belief loop will come so strong that it will just cause a catamolistic event and then you'll have to be forced to wake up. And now what I really want to do with people is share that you don't have to

go through such a traumatic event to wake up. It's one way of waking up and becoming more conscious. It's just a very hard way. It's a very dangerous way. Not everyone recovers. Instead, what I'd love for you to do is have awareness where you realize you're really unhappy. You're dissatisfied.

You're not feeling states of peace and use that as an opportunity to go, all right, I need to explore this and I need to start looking at what may be contributing to this unsatisfaction. Because a lot of people have been told a story, they're bought into a story. They're running these codified programs, which are, they're never going to lead to really a higher states of being, which impedes love and joy. I think what you just said is so important for the audience to hear, and it was important for me to hear because it's the same journey I took. I remember coming out of the military and my goal was to become an FBI agent.

As growing up as a kid, I always saw myself as being that person who was going to lead a life of action and I wasn't going to be constrained to be behind a desk, et cetera. And then literally three days before I'm supposed to go to Quantico, the whole thing gets taken away from me and it was one of the darkest periods of my life. Congress couldn't pass a funding bill and my class gets recycled. Turns out to be three and a half years later. And the opportunity just passed me by. And I started going down what I call this portfolio career, where it was almost out of necessity.

I had to do something to support myself and my family at the time. And then we had our first child and life just went. And before I knew it, I experienced the same thing that you're talking about. I had all these accolades. I was the youngest vice president in one of the fortune fifties I was in. I was chief information officer of a fortune 50 before I was 40 years old and on the outside people looked at it and all the money I was making, the roles I had, and what they didn't see was inside my life was just

in utter turmoil and I felt myself becoming so numb and so disengaged with everything that I held so dear. And I just started spiraling into this feeling of quiet desperation that Henry David Thoreau discusses. Is this in any way resemble what you were feeling yourself? Yeah, it's a great description, John. And it certainly was where you're just so lost. And what happens is we actually imprison ourselves. That's the real thing we do.

We are so running the program and the program is so strong that we don't even realize that there's other part that you can take. And I see this all the time. I'm getting really called into do a lot of work with in, in SF right now, and the Bay area, the Silicon Valley, because there's corporate leaders there who are really dictating the world and there is, I don't want to be negative on this place, but there is a disease running through this area of the country right now. There is so much comparison. People thinking that they're not wealthy because they're friends

with a billionaire, because so many people have become tech wealthy, even though they're sitting in incredibly wealthy houses and have more money than anyone can imagine, but they compare comparing to someone else. There's this feeling of never doing enough that their company isn't performing well enough, so they're judging their whole value around that experience. And we need to help bring some perspective to these people that you do have choice. And there's other ways that people are living their life and you don't have to put yourself in this situation.

And I think that the biggest challenge, which I see with people is that they're in this situation and they say they want one thing, but their actions are completely not in line with that. And that's a cue that perhaps there's a subconscious program, which is running, which is against working against you. And the subconscious is a quantum computer. It's so much more powerful than the conscious mind. And that's where we need to start exploring going, perhaps we're out of alignment and we need to explore some different parts. And it's amazing. It's makes me really feel really sad. There's people who, who say they want, for example, they want to

bring a child into this world. And I look at how they're living and I'm just reflecting because I've got a child coming on my way myself. And I looked at the intentionality that we did to bring this child into the world. And think of this smart soul. Why would the soul want to come into this world right now with the way you're living? Like you're not creating a vessel, which is feeling beautiful and loving. And like it's stressed out.

And I tell them, like, how much do you want this? Are you willing to take a year off work, for example? And it's really challenging. They see this like, it's almost like that their circuit starts short circuiting because they're like, how could I do that? Then I'm going to be behind. And I went, well, you already have financial freedom. And they don't realize that actually is an option.

I just use that as an example, because it's the disconnect with people with how much do you really want this? Are you willing to willing to go all in and potentially sacrifice some things for the better opportunity of what you want. And we were having a chat for getting on this call about like, why are you doing so well with your podcast? I asked you like, what is then the theme there? And well, you went, well, you know what?

I just focused, I just wanted to build this as an incredible foundation. And I was going to say no to other things. And it's not, I'm not saying no forever. It's just not now. Not now is a great word, not now, but not forever. And now you're in a place where you're in a strong foundation. You can say yes to say some of these opportunities and you can have it all. You just can't have it all at that initial time.

And I think that's the challenge right now, because we've been sold this message that more is better and we need to have it all now, because that's how literally we are co-programmed. It's coding marketing is bombarding us, impressing our subconscious going, you're in lack, you're not enough. You need all this now. And it just puts us into a constant state of never being enough. And, and that's not in a great place.

And I really connected with you, John, because I'm in a similar place right now is where everyone's going, whoa, your life is really expansive right now. And how are you handling it all? And I went, well, because I was very intentional about it. I focused on let's make sure that I am in the greatest place. First, I spent, I literally tapped out of the world for five years, focusing on nourishing myself and going on a beautiful journey of radical self-transformation, exploring my consciousness, expanding myself. So I was ready for when I wanted to go back out into the world, I was in a place

where I could actually handle that tension and that friction. And now the funny thing is I will accelerate past what I could have done if I had taken all those opportunities at the start, because now it's, I'm not operating in a linear construct. I'm operating in the quantum world where things can start being really powerful and it's sustainable. And, and it's because we had the discipline to pace and pacing is a very important part of life to go, you know what, I'm willing to slow down right now, even though it feels

like I'm missing out on opportunities because I'm going to be able to capitalize in the future. Yeah. I want to touch on a few of the things that you just talked about, Finian. And the first one, I want to go back to the comparison trap that you were talking about with people in the Bay area and San Francisco. This is something that Dr. Benjamin Hardy has a great book on called the gap versus the gain. And so often in times we find ourselves living in the gap where we're constantly

comparing ourselves to other people that we see who are living bigger than we are, or that we think we're living bigger. I often say it's like me being a podcaster, even though I've done great things, if I'm trying to compare myself to Tim Ferris or Joe Rogan or Jordan Harbinger, I'm constantly going to be in the gap because they've been doing it for so much longer and have built such a bigger platform. longer and have built such a bigger platform. But if I were living in the game, I would be viewing myself against my past self and seeing how far I've come along that path and just being intentional about that shift and how you view your life is eye opening because it grounds you. And it gives you the comfort to know that you are improving, that you are doing enough, that you are taking strides.

So that was one thing I wanted to comment on. And I think another thing that you brought up that's extremely important is just the whole concept of intentionality, which is something that we love to explore here. And we're going to be diving deeper into your book, which is actually titled intentionality. And I understand you trademarked it, which I'm jealous you were able to do, but your book subtitle is a groundbreaking guide to breath, title is a groundbreaking guide to breath, consciousness and reticle transformation. And I think I've talked about the definition of intentionality on this show, but I think it's important for you to also give your definition of it. So people are grounded by what you mean by it.

Thanks, John. I really loved the word grounded because it really connects to what happens when you don't live in the comparison world, you practice presence. And this is one of the key intentions of intentionality is practice presence over comparison. When we're present, we are now living here and now we're grounded and we're not living in this fictitious story of the future or the past, which is where the ego hangs out on. And the only place that our true divinity lives is here in this present moment.

And when we drop into the present moment, we allow some intelligence, some insights to start coming through us. And that's where the greatness really lies. And so often what happens is we are actually in an incredible present moment, but we're not enjoying it because we either are living in the past about something that happened or we're comparing ourselves for where we want to be. We can't actually enjoy the fruits of our labor right now and enjoy the incredible state we're in. And the funny thing is if you can't enjoy the present moment now, even when you achieve that future state that you've been wanting, you won't be able to

enjoy it then either. And that's one of the greatest challenges. I learned that very early when I built a wealth management career, I helped all these people build financial freedom and reach their retirement. But if you haven't practiced enjoying holidays and being present, you actually retire and you become miserable. Some of the greatest depressions that I saw were these successful old white men who had reached financial freedom, lived the corporate ladder, and then suddenly

they had no identity and they had no meaning because they didn't know how to actually get meaning from life, otherwise besides their status and their financial income, and no one status and their financial income. No one really cares about that later. So I'm really glad you brought up the present side of things. So going back to the definition of intentionality, how I define it in its simplest terms is identifying how you want to feel and then taking incremental steps towards making that a reality. Now, the really key thing there is it's a feelings first approach. We've been conditioned to want outcomes, goals, materialistic achievements.

And by the nature of that, there's some time in the future because we say, when I get this, I'll perhaps feel a particular way. And you ask anyone why they want a particular goal or an outcome, it always, and you keep asking why eventually it always comes back to a feeling. It comes back to why I want to feel love. I want to feel freedom. I want to feel safe. So then I started realizing, well, that's what we actually want. Why we want any goal.

Why aren't we making that the priority? Let's instead make the focus on the feelings and let's prioritize the feelings and let's prioritize the feelings. started realizing, well, that's what we actually want, why we want any goal. Why are we making that the priority? Let's instead make the focus on the feelings and let's prioritize them. And the incredible thing about feelings art, you can have those feelings right now. So if I want to have built up all this wealth because I want to feel free, oh, I want to feel peace. I can then flip it and go, well, I could actually feel peace today, regardless of my financial situation. How could I feel free today?

And then that helps drive actions in the present moment to bring more of that into my experience. And it means I don't have to waste five years of my life, hoping that I'll get there and then to only be surprised by the illusion of when. And it's, it is everything. And if people just literally woke up in the morning and went, okay, how do I want to feel today and make that as the driving force of making the decisions throughout the day, their life will just naturally change. And before they know it, they would be in a state of expansiveness that

they didn't even know was possible without even setting goals. I look at it and I thank you for that definition, I look at it as this state where you're matching your values and your intrinsic motivation and aligning it with your ambitions and long-term aspirations. I think that oftentimes that we think our actions, our ambitions, and our aspirations are separate entities and we don't realize how interrelated they are and how much the core values that we have plays a role in holding all of them together and the importance of being consistent in the actions that you're taking against your midterm ambitions and your long-term aspirations. So I really appreciate you sharing that.

And it's interesting over the past couple of days, I think sometimes the universe just brings these things in at the right moment, but I happened to be preparing for a solo episode and I was doing some research on Paul Harvey and I hadn't listened to his episode. I'm not sure if you've ever listened to it, but he did have an open letter from God. And in this, he was talking about how we have all these religions, all these ideologies, all these practices that end up separating us instead of uniting us. And what he was trying to say in this is that all of these things are manmade

and they're different interpretations of the influences that we have in our life. And instead of looking at these as detractors, we should be looking at these diverse influences as unitors. instead of looking at these as detractors, we should be looking at these diverse influences as unitors and in intentionality, you actually do this. You draw on several religions, ideologies and practices and you use them in a way that compliment rather than compete against each other. Can you explain how you do that? I really appreciate that you discovered that it's as you go on this spiritual path.

And I define spirituality as simply getting to know yourself. Cause once you get to know yourself, you realize there's something bigger than you. And you'll feel, you'll feel something, which is a really great place. And I've had enough experiences now where I've had that feeling of oneness and the feeling that everything is connected and we're all just images of God. which is a really great place. And I've had enough experiences now where I've had that feeling of oneness and the feeling that everything is connected and we're all just images of God getting to know itself. And you start realizing that, ah, there is common themes in every

different religion, every different sect. There is a common message and there's a common message about we are one. And that breath is the great connector. It brings us all together and that we are love. And there's a core message of all of them. And then I think what I loved about this is you brought up the great stories that yes, there's truths to all of this, but then there's also the man, the individual ego, which hijacks these truths to get a outcome that they want. And now I just witness it when everyone says they're like a religious or a

spiritual person, but they're causing conflict between people. I go, well, you might conceptually label yourself for that, but you're not that person because you're not connecting to that. Because anything that creates separation is love. It's not godly. It's not divine. And it's really sad how people will label themselves something without actually questioning what does that really mean and how do we live by that ourselves.

Ultimately, we are on an individual journey. And I believe everyone has the rights to any belief that they want. That's the beautiful thing about the human experience. However, there's two things. One, we need to remind ourselves, you only have those beliefs, the beliefs are serving you, and if they're making you unhappy, feeling unrest, not safe, then that's an example that these beliefs are not serving you. And also if these beliefs are causing you to separate from other humans and hurt

other humans, and those beliefs aren't fair either, we're an individual having an individual journey as a collective journey. And ultimately, that's what we're really here to do is to see how do we all come back together and connect. And it's really confusing and it's very sad what's happening in the world right now. How can we be at a state where consciousness is rising up so much, but then we see all this separation? And that's the great paradox of what's happening in the world right now. Because consciousness is rising up more than we've ever seen. But at the same time, when consciousness rises up, the nature of, there's always

polarity, some darkness rises up as well. But that's not a sign that the world is in a bad place. It's just actually, it's just becoming more prevalent. And I see it as before, like in war, always the greatest fights are before the war is just like, just before the war is about to be over. And I feel like that's happening in the world right now is it feels like it's getting worse, but it's actually because it's getting better. And that's a belief that I like to lean on because it serves me. It creates me to be in a more positive, optimistic place. I can see the fragility and what's getting going on.

I'm not caught up in the story and the drama, and instead I'm focusing on, well, how do I just bring more light into this world? And if more of us focused on that rather than focusing on the negativity, getting caught up in, into the drama of the media and lowering our vibrational frequency, which then just attracts more darkness. We would move through this very quickly. And that's what I empower. So all these people is like, all right, what are you doing right now?

Like, is it helping you get really negative over this situation? Or could you drop into your heart center and feel the love and feel the connection to all, and could you send love to these people? Could you start having more connections into your everyday life? And before we know that our fields start interacting with other people's fields. And what we are doing here may help in a war-torn country, because you have now effectively potentially rubbed up with a person who's now rubbing up with someone in that place. And it might be the moment where someone questions their beliefs. And suddenly went, Whoa, why are we doing this? This is hurting other people. Children are dying, all these different elements.

And that might be the catalyst for real lasting change in the world. So I always share this, like never underestimate your power to change the world, but you can't do it by thinking about anyone external. It has to be an internal state. The only thing you can do is change your field, change your energetic experience. And then by nature, knowing that we were all connected and through the universal mind, this universal field of intelligence, you had now changed the field by your current state, because it's a two-way relationship. Yeah, what you're describing about the time we're living

in right now, I mean, it's really an eye-opening period. And here in Tampa, we are very close to both Special Operations Command and CENTCOM, which is currently overseeing what's happening between Israel and the Palestine nation. And we are just on the precipice of all out conflict if we're not careful with how all these things unfold. And it is something you, I know I really don't want to think about on a daily basis, but the world is really on the edge right now, and it is so worrisome to me how when we're not being intentional about the actions that we're

taking to one another, how this could so quickly implode and go in to a direction that won't serve anyone on this planet. So, um, I will leave that there. I, I want to go into your book and for a listener who hasn't been able to pick up a copy yet. The way that Finian goes through the book is in part one, he covers your system. In part two, he goes into your coding. Part three, it goes into recoding. Part three, it goes into recoding and in that recoding, he goes into things such as how repetition impacts us, how energy can intervene in both positive and negative ways.

And then he goes into behaviors and tools that you can use to lead an intentional life. And I wanted to go into your system to start out with. And the first thing that you really go into is breath. And you just talked about it being the great connector and how it plays this role in linking each of us to each other and the world around us, despite the differences that we face. And I want to ask you, given its fundamental importance and the unique ability we have to control it consciously, as you talked about, can you discuss how focusing on our breath can help us to not only reconnect with ourselves, but also help us foster a deeper unity and understanding of others?

Yes. I'm so glad you brought that up. So when we think about breath, what symbolizes life? And that baby comes out and takes its first breath. It's like, oh, baby's alive. And then if anyone's witnessed someone cross into, after they're passed, the final thing is breathing out. And life is a series of breaths coming in and coming out.

And when we focus on our breath, what it does is it brings us into the present moment. It grounds us and reminds us, wow, I am alive. And when we breathe in and you actually think about this, and I talk about this later in the book about making your miracle. All we have to do to believe in miracles is to connect to when we breathe in, think what's happening there. Oxygen's coming in, mixing with glucose. And then that gives us energy to do everything in our life.

And we don't have to think about that. It's just automatically happening. That is a miracle. Breath is also the thing that we can't live without for the shortest amount of time. So I started looking at breath, there was all these messages about breath. And I went, why, like, how can we use this breath for our benefit? And the key part of the breath is it's the one faculty of the body, which happens automatically through the autonomic immune system.

It's just automatically happening. We don't have to think about it, but we can also consciously drive it to get certain outcomes. I, if I'm going for a run, I can speed up my breath. If I want to relax, I can elongate my breath out. And I started realizing, wow, that's the bridge between the conscious and the subconscious minds. And ultimately what we're trying to do is to create a great life for us is to get

alignment between the conscious minds, the subconscious mind and the universal mind, this universal intelligence. And when we have alignment, that's when we feel really great. We're living an intentional life. So how can we use the breath to help us one, bring awareness to potentially when subconscious programs are running, which aren't serving us. So what happens sometimes is I'll notice that I'm getting triggered and energy is building up and I'll take a breath to slow everything down and stop myself from

short circuiting myself or I get into a negative place and just bring awareness. Oh, what's happening for me right now? Oh, I'm feeling some anger. I'm not angry. I'm just feeling some sensations of anger or some sadness. Also, when we think about, so that might help me go, okay, I need to process this rather than do a behavior, which is going to lead to some unpleasant situation in my life.

Another really great thing about breath. If you've ever seen someone who's crying or in a really bad place, and maybe parents know this when their kid is in like a stressful panic of place, what do we do? We go up and hold them and we start breathing in a slower calm place. And what naturally happens? Their breath starts regulating down as well because we are connected. It's we're now breathing in the same energy. We start relaxing through it as well.

When we breathe in, think about this, what are we doing? Everyone else has breathed this air. We're now actually breathing in different particles, cells of other humans. And the person you think is an enemy, you suddenly realize, well, they're inside of you as well, we're all breathing off the same source of energy. So just doing that practice naturally helps you realize, oh, we're not so different, we're all the same being breathing in the same air, maybe the view I have of that person isn't actually true.

And that's what I really want people to start doing with the breath is start paying attention to your breath. The other beautiful thing about the breath is that every time something happens to you, whether someone interacts with you, someone talks to you, two things occur in the body. Sensations will arise in the body. There might be a tightness and openness, a sensation, or an and I mean, your breath, your respiration will change somehow. So if you notice that when someone walks into the room, your breath suddenly goes a little bit short and shallow, it might be a sign that, oh, that person, I can't trust that person fully.

Or if you notice, wow, I just feel really calm around that person. That's one of your people who you can actually communicate to. So there's all these little cues that we can use from the breath to help us identify what current state are we in and what do we need to do from here. And it becomes super prevalent, especially in a business place, is you can use this to help you make better decision making. If you identify that, oh, you're going through a deal transaction and you notice that the breath is really calm, really open like you are when you're really in a loving state, that's a sign. Maybe this is a good deal or a good new business to launch or a

good new product to launch. But if suddenly you observe that your breath is really tight and shallow, that might be a signal, oh, let's put a pause on this and let's explore it. So I share this as a tool because ultimately we're all stretched for time. That's the biggest thing that people are saying, but we don't actually need more time, what we need to get better at is get better at decision-making because when you get better at decision-making, naturally you collapse time and things start opening up for you.

Fennian, thanks for sharing that. And I wanted to lead into your section on energy that's in part one. Albert Einstein famously once said, everything is energy, match the frequency of the reality you want. And you cannot help, but get that reality. It can be no other way. This is not philosophy. This is physics.

Can you describe how this quote relates to our energy centers and its relationship with intentionally cultivating what we want in life? No often we label something as science and we've associated a lot of science as what we can see with our see and feel with our senses, but energy is everything. If we actually break down everything in life at the simplest terms, all it is energy. And when we realize that the world is a holographic universe, it's a representation of what's happening in the internal, the external is a representation of the internal, the macros and the micros and the macro, we start realizing that everything that is

projected out there is a result of what's happening in here. So then we can start taking agency. It's a really great thing because it means we actually do have ability to change our situation, our life. We can start going, well, what, what is my energy right now? Am I in a, when I say high vibrational state, am I operating in a feeling state, which is the stronger emotions of love and abundance and peace and joy. And naturally, when you're in that state, it starts attracting energy in that place. Dr. David Hawkins

talks about this concept of attractor fields is whatever energy you're is, you start almost being trapped for that energy as well. So if you're in a loving state, you start trapping energy. But if you're in a fierce first state, play state, you attract more of that into your life. So if we're not liking what's happening in our life, we need to look into ourselves and go, okay, what am I doing to contribute to this? And naturally, when you start stepping in and opening up these different energy centers through your body and start going, all right, am I being the attractive field to that type of energy?

Am I going, am I attracting that in? You'll start realizing, wow, you can really change anything in your life and bring more of it as well. So the first thing I do whenever I work with people is rather than focusing on everything else in the life, we don't even focus on goals or anything. We just go, how's your energy? Let's look at how do we build your energy? And there's some really simple things you can do, which they talk about. Basically the formula for anything to get out of depression, to improve your state, it's some simple things.

Are you getting good sleep? Are you nourishing yourself with good, healthy food? You, um, exercising, are you getting sunlight? All these, are you grounding into the earth? There's all these natural energy centers wanting to build you up. And once you get into that place, now you can then start raising your energy into a higher level where you start going, all right, I'm now going to operate from a place of love.

And I trust that if I just love people, then I'm going to get more love back. I was working with someone yesterday recently, and he said to me, Finn, it's so strange. The more I give love, it's crazy. The more I get back, it actually feels like I feel a little bit guilty. I keep wanting to give more love, but I keep getting so much love back. It feels unjust. And I went, that's the secret, brother. That is the formula. Give love and it just naturally has to have come back. It's

not limited. It's unlimited. That's the thing about love. It's not a scarce resource. And if everyone just realized that is the formula to life, wow, wouldn't that be incredible? What are we doing right now? We think because we've been brought up in a scarce mindset that when someone has something that means I haven't got something, we then get jealous and we get envious of when people are experiencing these lives rather than thinking, well, how could I contribute to someone else's life? And naturally it will come back to me. And one of the quotes that really helped me during my dark night of my soul, that

period where I was feeling completely lost was, the best way to lose yourself is in the service of others and it was by Gandhi. And I really reflected and anytime I got consumed in my story and I started thinking about, oh, how have I ruined my life? How can it be this way? Call me the typical sadness story. That was a cue for me. Okay, how can I help someone else?

And I'll go help someone else, whether it was just calling a friend, doing a random act of kindness, smiling at someone. And before I knew it, I started feeling a little bit better. And then if you look at most people who have gone to some stage of, I don't know, I wouldn't call it, I don't want to call it enlightenment, but some form of higher state of consciousness, what's the connection? They've effectively dedicated their life to service. And the funny thing is, it doesn't have to be in conflict with creating

a material life as well. I'm creating more abundance by helping people right now than I ever did before. And it's fascinating. I go, wow, the more I help people, the more I create wealth for myself. It doesn't have to be in conflict. No, it absolutely does not. And I appreciate you sharing that because that scarcity mindset is something

that so many of us find ourselves in. And I think this leads us right into one of the next concepts you talk about in the book, which is belief loops, which you've talked about a little bit can be negative, perpetuating patterns that limit our potential or positive, which enhance our lives through conscious recoding, which is a core component of your book. Can you elaborate on the process of identifying and transforming a negative belief loop into a positive one and how this transformation can lead to us being more intentional and empowered in the way that we live.

So a whole premise in the book I talk about at the start is we're all born with the same resources and tools that we need to have in order to have a really expansive human life. And that is the breath, our minds, and effectively the universal mind, this universal field intelligence. It doesn't matter where you're brought up, what gender, what situation, they're the things, they're the levelers that we all have. Now, obviously some people do get like a head start in these other areas with financial rate world sometimes.

But also that could also be a setback from them, because then they might have a negative coding around scarcity. It all depends on these belief loops, which I'm about to go in. And belief loops are a foundational part of all of us. We all have these running with all time. It just depends whether they're positive or negative. So what is a belief loop? A belief loop is, I do this in the imagery so people can understand,

A belief loop is, I do this in the imagery so people can understand, our beliefs shape our thoughts, which shape our behaviors, which shape our feelings, and then the feelings reaffirm the belief cycle. These beliefs are stored down on a subconscious level. And by the nature of the subconscious, it's an energy efficient machine. Once the program is in there, it doesn't want to change the program because it was put in to help us save energy because the conscious mind isn't as advanced as the subconscious. So he goes, all right, I'll create a belief around that. And then it will send up certain thoughts, which will drive behaviors to result in feelings. And the feelings are what create the beliefs in the first place. And one of the challenges of the subconscious is it

doesn't have the ability to deduce between truth and untrue. It just takes on whatever the strongest emotion is as to be true. So we really need to bring awareness of what these beliefs are because these beliefs are shaping 95% plus of our decisions of our life. And if we're not aware of them, we may be having beliefs that are negative. And I talk about negative belief loops, just in the perspective of, are they bringing like low vibrational feelings or positive high vibrational feelings into your life, and we need to explore and go, okay, what's happening there?

Are they working for me? And the way is everything is through the feelings. I can tell straight away where do you have positive belief loops? Cause you're feeling more of those high operational feelings. Or if you have negative belief loops, you're in a place where you're constantly unrest, you're sad, you're, you're questioning things is going to a process of awareness in order to do any transformation, we need to come aware first. How do we do this?

Well, we journal, we reflect, we start looking at, wow, I was really triggered by that today, we use coaches, we do group work, lots of different ways to bring awareness, the keys we have to be open to what we discover because the next step is acceptance, we have to accept. We may believe like we like conceptually might want to believe that we're really abundant, kind person. But if we actually look at our behaviors and our feelings, we might discover that perhaps we're not, doesn't mean we don't want to be, but there's a program

which is being determined from effectively from our childhood, which is creating this undesirable situation in our life until you accept that you're just going to keep living in the illusion and you're not going to confront it. So I had to accept at certain points in my life. Wow. Here I was thinking I was a really kind person and really loving, but I did some things that weren't very kind.

So maybe that's a belief loop that was running there. Here I was thinking I was a very abundant person. However, I was living my life actually built off fear and living in scarcity and always questioning like, will this be enough? Will this work? And once I accepted that I could start seeing, well, how is this playing out in my life and is this serving me? No.

Then I can go through a process of releasing these belief loops. And how do we go through a process of recoding the belief loops? There's really two avenues. One is through repetition. The subconscious takes on directions through a repetitive feeling, which eventually becomes so strong that the belief goes, the subconscious goes, all right, I'm going to form a belief over that. So something you think over repetitively, you behave a certain way, results in a

feeling and the subconscious goes, all right, I'm going to create a belief around that. So naturally one way to recode it is make sure that we're putting impressions on the subconscious, which is aligned with the new positive belief loop. So we map out the negative belief loop and then we go, okay, what would have been someone with a positive belief loop, what would that look like? Well, they would have this belief, these are the thoughts that they would pay attention to, the mental chatter in the world, these are the behaviors that they will do. And this is what

they would feel. And then every day, you then have to do the behaviors in line with that positive belief loop, even though internally, it might be telling you no way, you can't do that. That's not going to serve you, but we've already identified you can't trust yourself when you have that negative belief loop, it's telling you to do the opposite. So you have to manually override the system by doing the new behaviors. And when you do that, something will occur. You'll start feeling some of those, cause there's always an outcome when you do

that, then when you do a cause, there's an effect and you start feeling some of those feelings. And eventually one day you might realize, wow, I'm not even thinking about this anymore. I've created a new positive belief loop. It's happening. So I like to describe that as brushing your teeth, flossing your teeth. It's like the manual work that you need to do in order to make sure that your

teeth are really nice and clean. You have a good oral hygiene. Sometimes though, those belief loops are so deep and so ingrained that the energy is so suppressed that we need a really strong energetic force to go down to dislodge them and bring them up. And that's what I like to call energy interventions. With a very short amount of time, with a lot of energy focus, we go, all right, we're going to go down and blast these negative belief loops to get them out of our system.

So then we can recode through repetition with these new positive belief loops. And these energy interventions are things like deep breath journeys, medicine journeys, certain modalities where we're getting into the body, we're having a felt experience. It has to be through a felt experience because it's stored in the body. I've done things like darkness retreats, silent meditation retreats. It's a condensed period where I'd ring them up and it gets released. And in the dental analogy, I like to think of this going to the dentist to get a deep clean or some reconstructive surgery.

And you get a chance of coming out and you're like, oh, I'm, I'm fresh. Now the challenge is if you don't brush and floss your teeth, it's going to go back to the old way. So you need to do the daily repetition. And that's why the two are so important. And this is why a key part of intentionality is integration. Whenever you have a transformational period, you,'ve got to do the integration work as well. You've got to support it.

You've got to naturally make it feel stronger and bond. And when we do that and we combine both of these, that's when we get the radical transformation and it's continuous process. We work on a negative belief loop. We rewrite it with a new one. We work on that and then we go through another process and we discover, oh, wow, there's another negative belief loop. And we keep going through this iterative process and it never stops

because of constantly the subconscious is waiting to be coded. And if we don't, if we're not the coder, who else is society, media, all these conditions, and this happens a lot of the time, sometimes you did have a positive belief loop and then over time, because of the time. Sometimes you did have a positive belief loop. And then over time, because of the situation you're in, maybe right now what's happening right now, people were believing in love and now they're seeing horrific things. And now maybe fear is starting to creep into the life. Or they were in an abundant state and then a global recession happened and their financial states were ruined. And they don't identify with being in a scarcity mindset,

but it did change. So it's a constant process of one protecting our subconscious and then going, okay, are we coding it with what we want it to be coded for? And some of the things that you discuss in the book in more detail are leveraging energy over time, embracing discipline over rigidity, choosing love over fear. And then some of the energy interventions you touched on a high level, but you go into psychedelics, sound, extreme temperatures, emotional clearing, vision quest, things like that a listener can dive into

in your book. So one of the things I wanted to end talking about are some of the behaviors and tools that you talk about at the end of the book. And I think one of the ones I wanted to focus on was practicing presence. I ended my own book. The last principle that I talk about is something called conscious engagement that reminded me of this. And I give this analogy that we live so much in the subconscious, which you described earlier, that really one of the most powerful things that we need to do to

become intentional is to realize how to train our brains to become a conscious engager and to live in the presence. Can you talk about this more potentially through that lighter any way you want to take it? Yeah. I'm just loving the synergies in what we stand for. Really what we're trying to do is we need to bring awareness to how it is that we're showing up and behaving.

And if we are thinking, that means by the nature of it, we're not watching internally, we're out there. That means the program has to be running. And when the program's running, we're not watching internally, we're out there. That means the program has to be running and when the program's running, we're not aware. So what we need to do is we need to come back into the present moment and start being the witness, like they talk about this in spiritual texts, like we need to be the witness, the observer and not, and realize that we're not our thoughts, we're not our feelings, we're something behind all of that. and realize that we're not our thoughts, we're not our feelings, we're something behind all of that.

So a really powerful way to do that is to start paying attention to your breath. So as I've been on this podcast with you, yes, I'm engaged, but at the same time, I am just observing what's coming out of my mouth. And I'm doing that by just breathing. I'm going, okay, my breath is still there. I'm observing it. I'm also feeling myself connected to the earth below. I'm feeling this energy running through me, feeling the ground beneath me.

And then I'm stealing a little bit of awareness in my hands. I'm feeling, I'm just bringing awareness to my hands and I'm feeling the sensation there and what that does is it starts realizing, well, I'm more than just my head, I'm this awareness that's everywhere. And effectively what I'm doing there is I'm connecting to this field in physics. I call it the unified field in my book. I call it the universal mind, because I'm trying to connect to this idea that we're trying to get aligned with our minds.

And when I'm in that place, I feel supported. I feel grounded. I feel present. And then suddenly what happens is it allows intelligence to come through me rather than thinking that it's about me. It's I'm just a conduit. It's just an experience there. So when we're in that place, what happens is we then don't

get taken over by the program. Suddenly I can observe, Oh, John just did something that triggered me. I don't react to that. I then respond by using a breath and then releasing and going, all right, what do I need to respond? Maybe I need to take care of myself. Maybe I need to ask my needs. Maybe I'm going to go to him or maybe I just realized, Oh, that's just an

old program beginning activated right now. And I can release it rather than acting on it. Because when I act on it, suddenly you can might suddenly realize that days disappear and you've been in conflict for a few days, or you've been in a negative state for a really long time. So it's a practice of just being that observer, being the witness. And when we do this, life just becomes so much easier, so much more magical. And then also you start realizing, wow, I can really start playing with this

energy and start creating from this place. And that's where we really, everything's really open and possible. The last thing I really wanted to ask you is we've covered a lot today. If someone were to pick up this book, what is the one thing that you're hoping readers will take away from it and how it can impact their life? Well, ultimately what I want people to realize is I talked about with this book, it's an operating system, really. Like I go through and you mentioned the four steps.

It's like, first you have to understand your system because we're all given the same system and some people are using this system a lot better than others. You then need to understand that we've been coded. Doesn't matter how incredible your parents will think you were. They never were able to give you what you truly needed. And that's what we needed is unconditional love. And so we've been coded. Some people have been coded with positive things.

Some people have been coded with negatives. Some people have been coded with positive things. Some people have been coded with negatives. Some people have been coded with the combination of the two. And then we do have a process that we can recode. So effectively the one thing I want people to take away is that you have no idea how good life can be. You think of a version of life. Life is unlimited. It's expansive.

And when you step on this path of intentionality, you are going to have an expansive human experience and everything can be changed. That's really like the final thing that I want people to hear is that everything can be changed. You are not permanent in anything. Actually, the only thing that is permanent in life is change. That's the only thing that is permanent. But for some reason we have such a resistance to change and we don't believe

it's possible, but I'm telling you it is. And I've witnessed amazing transformations of people where they didn't know it was possible and their life is completely changed. Phineon, it was such a pleasure to have you today. What an amazing book. I highly encourage the audience to pick up a copy and thank you so much for joining us today. Thanks so much, John. I appreciate your dedication to D. Craft. What an incredible honor that was to interview Finney and Kelly. And I wanted to thank Hay House

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one work environment they self-present in a particular way, certain things are really important, the ways of behaving are very a particular way, but then you go into another context and things are totally different, right? The expectations, the norms, the interactions, they're totally different. And so we see this, but yet we always come back to defaulting that it's the individual who needs to change. And this is really important in mindset research. For years and years, we thought of mindset

as just a quality in our head. And then the solution was, well, if you have a fixed mindset, just change your mind. And that's obviously easier said than done. But it actually ignores the mindset context, the mindset culture around us. And what our research most recently has shown is that mindset culture actually can trump many of the experiences that we have when it comes to the ability to use and benefit from our mindset. Remember that we rise by lifting others, so share the show with those that you love and care about. And if you found today's episode with Finney and Kelly useful,

then definitely share it with those who could use his inspiration. In the meantime, do your best to apply what you hear on the show so that you can live what you listen. Until next time, go out there and become passion strider.