Passion Struck with John R. Miles - Hannah Ranfranz On: Leading By The Dreams In Your Heart EP 113

Episode Date: March 8, 2022

Hannah Ranfranz is an IFBB professional bikini competitor and Olympian. She coaches lifestyle and competition preparation online and trains clients in person via team infinity. John R Miles sits down ...with Hannah on the passion-struck podcast to discuss how she lets her heart shine on the biggest stage in the world with the women she has looked up to since the beginning. Her secrets to bringing her personal best, having fun, and making memories that will last her a lifetime with my friends & family! Hannah explains that although she is competing against other people in IFBB Bikini, her favorite part is ultimately Hannah vs. Hannah. She talks about how no two human bodies are the same, and we are all unique in our own ways. It’s about striving to create the best version of yourself every single day! It’s a never-ending journey, and the experiences and friendships we make along the way are priceless. Hannah offers practical advice on how you, too, can lead with your heart and achieve your dreams. Thank You To Our Sponsors: Athletic Greens: Get a free one year supply of Vitamin D3/K2 and five travel packs at https://www.athleticgreens.com/passionstruck Raycon: Get 15% on Raycons at https://buyraycon.com/passionstruck Grammarly: Get 20% off premium at https://www.grammarly.com/PASSIONSTRUCK Podbean: Head on over to Podbean at www.podbean.com and use the code PODCAST21 for your first thirty days of podcast hosting for free. Time Stamps: 0:00 Introducing Hannah Ranfranz and new programs 3:05 Athletic Greens and Raycon 5:53 Hannah Ranfranz's path into bodybuilding 8:42 Hannah Ranfranz's training to become an IFBB Professional 12:55 The importance of confidence in IFBB competition 13:45 The difference between NPC and IFBB 17:42 The training regime for an IFBV professional 21:24 How to gain sponsors as an IFBB professional 25:15 Grammarly and Podbean 27:13 The importance of a coach or persona trainer 34:13 How she become an IFBB Olympian 40:27 The importance of exercise for physical and mental health 44:22 Why Hannah Ranfranz is internally motivated 47:25 How The Success Principles by Jack Canfield changed her life 53:10 Why life is like a bicycle 58:50 Hannah Ranfraz describes her morning routine 101:39 Lightning Round of questions Follow Hannah Ranfranz: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/hannahranfranz/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/hannahranfranz/  Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/hannah.ranfranz  Website: https://www.teaminfinityfit.com/ Socials: * Twitter: https://twitter.com/Milesjohnr * Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/johnrmiles.c0m * Medium: https://medium.com/@JohnRMiles ​* Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/john_r_miles * LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/milesjohn/ * Blog: https://passionstruck.com/blog/ * Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/passion_struck_podcast/ * Gear: https://www.zazzle.com/store/passion_struck/ -- John R Miles is a serial entrepreneur and the CEO and founder of Passion Struck. This full-service media company helps people live intentionally by creating best-in-class educational and entertainment content. John is also a prolific public speaker, venture capitalist, and author named to the ComputerWorld Top 100 IT Leaders. John is the host of the Passion Struck Podcast;  a show focused on exploring the mindset and philosophy of the world's most insightful people to learn their lessons to living intentionally and becoming the masters of their own life and destiny. Passion Struck aspires to speak to the humanity of people in a way that makes them want to live better, be better and impact. Stay tuned for John's latest project, his upcoming book, which will be published in summer 2022. Learn more about me: https://johnrmiles.com. New to this channel and the passion-struck podcast? Check out our starter packs which are our favorite episodes grouped by topic, to allow you to get a sense of all the podcast has to offer. Go to Spotify or https://passionstruck.com/starter-packs/. Like this? Please join me on my new platform for peak performance, life coaching, self-improvement, intentional living, and personal growth: https://passionstruck.com/ and sign up for our email list.  

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Starting point is 00:00:00 coming up next on the Passion Start podcast. What I try to do when I see someone doing something not the right way, I will say to them, I don't say, hey, you're doing this wrong. I just say try it this way and you might feel it a little bit more. And then they'll kind of fix it. And then they're like, oh, wow, yeah, I do think. So you never want to make someone feel bad or like they're doing it wrong. But I just try to give a little tip on how to do it even better, for instance. Welcome visionaries, creators, innovators, entrepreneurs, leaders, and growth seekers of all types,
Starting point is 00:00:32 two of the Passion Struck podcast. Hi, I'm John Miles, a peak performance coach, multi industry CEO, maybe veteran, and entrepreneur on a mission to make action go viral for millions worldwide. And each week I do so by sharing with you an inspirational message and interviewing eye achievers from all walks of life who unlock their secrets and lessons to become an action struck. The purpose of our show is to serve you the listener. By giving you tips, tasks, and activities, you can use to achieve peak
Starting point is 00:01:05 performance and for too a passion-driven life you have always wanted to have. Now let's become PassionStruck. Hello everyone and welcome back to episode 113 of the PassionStruck podcast and thank you to each and every one of you who comes back weekly to listen and learn to live better, be better, and impact the world. And if you're new to this show or you would just like to introduce it to a friend or family member, we now have episode starter packs which are collections of your favorite episodes organized by topic, which gives any new listener a great way to get acquainted to everything that we do here on the show.
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Starting point is 00:02:19 and a minor in organizational leadership and supervision from Purdue University. And in my discussion today with Hannah, we go into how she got the fitness bug at such a young age. How she got involved and wanted to make a career at a health and wellness. How she became involved with becoming a bikini competitor. What it takes to compete in her overwhelming training routine, the steps she took to become a professional bikini competitor, Analympian, how she lives an intentional life by taking deliberate, daily actions, her advice about following your
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Starting point is 00:05:53 So excited today to welcome Hannah, Rand friends to the Passion Struck podcast. Hannah, thank you for coming. Thank you so much for having me. I've been looking forward to this all week long. Well, me too. And I especially like it when I get to interview friends and people I know on the podcast. I think it brings a completely different dimension. So, um, definitely. Well, I thought for the listeners or viewers that a great starting point would be, um, where did you develop this love that you have for physical fitness?
Starting point is 00:06:27 So I have grown up playing sports my entire life. You know, I played soccer when I was little, then I did gymnastics, then I started playing softball, volleyball, I did cheerleading, I was a runner, and then it was in high school that I got my first gym membership, and I asked my parents if I could have a personal trainer, and they were like, sure. And I was like, okay, great, because I wanted to learn how to use the equipment in the gym, because I had no idea what really any of it was. So then I just started strength training when I was 14 or 15 and I fell in love with it and then I actually wanted to go to culinary school, which is really funny to go big cupcakes, but my mom was like, Hannah, you love the holidays, keep that as your hobby, keep baking as your hobby, and I was like, well, I'm good at two things in life, you know, working out, making cookies. So I was like, I guess I'll go to school for exercise and health.
Starting point is 00:07:30 So then that's what I did. And I just put my everything into it and decided to take my career that route. And when you're going through that curriculum, what are some of like the studies that they have you do? Is it, is it how do you train your body, how do you eat in certain ways? I'm not familiar with the curriculum. So I did a little bit of both. I went to Purdue in West Lafayette. I graduated with a degree in applied exercise and health and all of my courses were health and kinesiology based. So I did, I had such a wide range of classes from clinical anatomy to exercise physiology to nutrition courses. I did the whole thing. And then in order to even graduate, we had to be certified as a personal trainer then to finish off our clinical hours and everything as a senior. And then I was already doing what I do now when I was in college.
Starting point is 00:08:27 And that was part of our clinical hours teaching workout classes for Purdue. We did that in college and it was just so much fun. So honestly, once I graduated college, my life really didn't change at all. I was just making money instead of paying to do it. Okay. And so where does one create this desire
Starting point is 00:08:49 to be a professional bikini contender? I mean, is it something that you kind of stumbled upon or is it something that you discovered in college and afterwards that I'm gonna go after this? How does that happen? So when I was in college, I would work out, I would live at the co-rec. And I would work there, I had my classes there, and I worked out. So I was just at the gym 24-7.
Starting point is 00:09:14 And I would have people come up to me, and they would ask me, do you compete? And I'm like, no, what's that? I had no idea what it was. And when I was in school, I actually went through some bad depression and anxiety. And when I graduated college, I was just really, really skinny. And I decided like I really wanted to put on weight. And I wanted to put on healthy weight and build some muscle. And I was like, you know, I want to do one of these bikini competitions and put on some muscle in a healthy way and gain weight in a healthy way. And I wanted to learn and grow as a trainer as well. So competing is not a cheap sport.
Starting point is 00:09:52 It's a very expensive hobby, especially if you're not sponsored for anything. So once I was graduated and working, I decided to get myself a coach and then do a competition for fun. And it was after before even stepped on stage at my first show, ever, I was immediately hooked. And I just knew I was going to be doing it the rest of my life. Okay. And how, like how nerve-wracking is that when you go up there the first time because you know, you're having to show your whole body and, you know, for some people
Starting point is 00:10:25 that's a difficult thing for them to want to do. Yeah it's definitely going far outside of a comfort zone when you're up on that stage for the first time ever and it's pretty crazy because actually this weekend is a big national show that they hold every single year for the Amateurs and the NPC, which is the National Physique Committee, and it's a show where you can turn pro-at. And I stepped on the national stage just a few weeks after my first show ever because I had won my first show. And so I got to go on to nationals. And I just remember being a deer and head lights up there. I had no idea what I was doing. I was just in my head thinking, hit this
Starting point is 00:11:09 pose, hit this pose, hit this pose smile. Okay, turn, keep your back arched, keep your glutes all die. And you're just the things going through your mind is hilarious. Well, I mean, I guess it leads me to ask, what are the judges looking for when you're up
Starting point is 00:11:27 there? So, when you step on stage, the judges are looking for a lot. I always describe it to the general population as it's like a victorious secret show with muscle almost. It's like a beauty pageant with muscle. So, they're looking for a certain level of conditioning because there's different categories that women can compete in. You have bikini, then you have figure,
Starting point is 00:11:53 then you have women's physique, and now they added in women's wellness. So there's different criteria for each one. And that's, like I said, level of conditioning, the amount of muscle, a certain level of leanness, not being too lean, not being too hard, not being too striated, not having your veins show. It's, bikini is very subjective.
Starting point is 00:12:14 So it's pretty hard because, you know, your based, your judge based off what you're standing next to. So, at the end of the day, it's almost an opinion two of the judges, because some judges, like the girls a little more conditioned, some don't want you to condition. And with bikini, it's the category that has the least amount of muscle out of all the bodybuilding categories they have for women. And then it goes back to suit color, how your hair looks, how your makeup is. I mean, your nails gotta be done.
Starting point is 00:12:48 Your tan has to look perfect. It's everything, jewelry, heels. It all plays a part. Yeah, how much does confidence and the way you project yourself matter into it? So that plays, that's one of the biggest things on stage because you can definitely outpost someone and when it comes to posing, that's confidence and you gotta look like you know what you're doing up there and you gotta act like you know what you're doing, you gotta act like
Starting point is 00:13:17 you own that show when you're up there. And when I go out now, you know, I've done probably around 30 shows now, which is a lot. So when I go on stage now, I still get a little bit of nerves, but I'm more confident than ever before on stage now, of course, just because I've practiced and been doing this since 2017. So it comes a point where your routine just becomes muscle memory. Okay, and you mentioned the NPC and you know, I'm one of these people who doesn't know anything about this at all, but what is the difference between the NPC and the IFBB? What you're now part of? That's a great question. So the NPC is the National Physique Committee and then you have the IFBB,
Starting point is 00:14:03 which is the International Physique Committee and then you have the IFBB which is the International Federation of Body Building. So how it works is when you first start competing you can compete at the local regional level and that's just shows all over the country and you can enter novice, true novice, there's categories for the beginners and you have masters and stuff like that too. And if you place first or second at one of those shows at the local level, that will then qualify you for a national level show, which is like the one I talked about this weekend, for instance. And there's, I think there is six national shows a year. That's what it was when I first started competing. There was six national shows in the US where you could compete at to earn your pro card. And some shows you have to get first place at the national level. Sometimes it's top two. And then there's some who it's not just first place in your high class, but then also you have to be top four in the
Starting point is 00:15:06 overall for instance. So then at one of those national level shows is how you can earn your IFBB pro status. Okay, and I didn't realize that that's how they did it was by height. I didn't know if it was by weight, by height, by age. Yes, right. So for bikini, we go based off height categories. And then once you turn pro, though, there's it's just open. They don't have height classes anymore for the pros since obviously the pro shows are smaller than the national level, for instance. So it's just all open, but then they also have masters as well, which masters start to age 35 and then you have 35 and up 40 and up 45 and up and from there. Yeah, looking back at 35, it's funny to think that that's what it describes as a master. But so with that said, you know, I think people listening to this may think, okay, you're in a bikini contest.
Starting point is 00:16:08 How difficult can that be to prepare for? And I think they've got the concept completely wrong because I've seen you out and about and I know how disciplined you are, but how long before a, do you really start training or are you training all the time? I train year-round, 365 days a year. I am always going 100 miles an hour. When it comes to cutting for a show, typically, because I stay pretty lean year-round, it's not good to stay at your stage weight year round just because we have to get so lean for our shows. So I will do anywhere from like an eight to
Starting point is 00:16:52 a 12 week prep for a show, which isn't too long, but some women need anywhere from 12 to 20, 24 weeks to get ready for a show. It just depends on how much fat you have to lose because we step on stage at such a low body weight. But I always say it's your off season, which I like to call my improvement season that is going to set you up for a successful prep. So if you are mindful in your off season, if you don't gain a whole bunch of body fat and you're just putting on lean muscle while staying in a healthy range as far as body fat goes, then it's a lot easier to diet down for the show and then like I said, you're really only cutting in that caloric deficit for for me like I said around 10 weeks.
Starting point is 00:17:41 set around 10 weeks. Okay. And so what does a typical week look like for you, especially if you're into that, you know, six to eight weeks before a show, what does training look like? So I trained for about two hours a day because I'll typically do maybe around an hour of cardio and then around an hour hour and a half of lifting. And I am just on the go 24, 7, always on my feet. So I don't have to do any crazy intense cardio just because I do a lot of walking. And like I said, I stay very active. But with exercise, you know, I'm never missing a workout. I'm in the gym six days a week. If I go a seventh day, it's just to do a little
Starting point is 00:18:25 walk, foam roll stretch. It's not, it's like almost an active rest day. And sometimes I'm, I only shrink train five days a week, though, just depending on how my body is feeling. I'm very in tune with my body. And it's actually during the recovery process and our sleep, for instance, that our muscles are growing. It's when we're in the gym, we're breaking them down. So it's the recovery that they actually build back, repair themselves and grow. So that's why that one rest day, at least a week is very important. And just so you're not getting any overuse injuries or burned out and just running your body into the ground.
Starting point is 00:19:04 And as far as diet goes, I keep it very, very clean. I typically follow low fat. I don't do low carbs because I'm so active. My body needs those carbs. So I prefer to follow a low fat diet. And I just keep it very, very clean, less condiments, and which sometimes, you know, can mean maybe some last flavor, but I do a lot of spices to, in seasonings, to flavor my food with no calories. And then I weigh every single thing that goes into my body. I am making sure I'm drinking a gallon a day. I'm making sure I get eight hours of sleep every single night, and I am stretching, I am just taking care of myself, and really prioritizing every single thing because bodybuilding is a 24 seven job.
Starting point is 00:19:58 It's not like we just go to our practice for an hour or two, and then we're a free bird for the rest of the day. Every single minute of the day matters practically. Yeah, I was going to ask you, do you allow yourself cheat meals? Do you eat sweets? Do you drink alcohol or? So when I'm in season, I do not drink at all. Sometimes I will have a glass of wine with a refeed is what I like to call them. I don't like to call it a cheat meal because cheating is something we're not supposed to be doing.
Starting point is 00:20:32 When you're in a colorect deficit for months on end, you need a refeed. So even with my lifestyle clients, I like to call it a refeed or a free meal, just because with the idea of cheating, then sometimes clients may go overboard or overeat and then they feel really guilty or they just think, oh, I shouldn't have a cheat meal. I shouldn't be cheating. I don't want to cheat on my plan. So I just like to term it as a free meal or a refeed just for the whole mental idea of it. And I will have those along my prep, especially if I've been dieting for a very long time and I'm going back to back with shows
Starting point is 00:21:12 because my body needs that caloric bump. And then often I can, if I'm on prep and I've been dieting for a really long time, I could go out for a burger and then drop a pound the next day. Okay. Well, how does a person, if you're a professional in this sport, make a living? Is it similar to podcasting where you have sponsors who end up supporting you? Yeah, that's actually a really good comparison because you really do not make any money competing. I mean, only top three get paid at these shows. And you have anywhere from, I would say,
Starting point is 00:21:49 on average, 15 to 40 women competing at each show. So to place top five at a professional bikini competition is actually pretty difficult, especially with the quality of athletes nowadays. These women just look phenomenal. And when it comes down to it, a lot of the people who are in this sport and make a living from it
Starting point is 00:22:10 are the people who really know how to market themselves and advertise and like you said sponsors. So a lot of us who compete at the professional level are sponsored athletes. So whether it's from nutrition companies and your supplement companies and gym like gym strength training equipment and like gyms in general, who also local gyms will help sponsor athletes and then Instagram, which that's a little side hustle. So there's a lot of things you can do and lots of sponsorships you can land within Instagram, basically. Okay. Well, maybe you can give me some pointers on that, um, for my life work. I haven't gotten any, uh, I keep getting these things. We'd
Starting point is 00:23:01 like to have you be an ambassador for our product. But most of them want you to pay for the product and then right, right. It's a scheme. Oh, of course, it's a total scheme all day long. So anytime I hear that, I'm just like, forget about it. Right. And then also a lot of us who compete our coaches as well. So that's really how we make our money and make a living is because we coach. Okay, and so when you're at a gym, do you find women sometimes come up to you and ask you about the training that you're doing or do you find that people are intimidated to talk to you. I get a little bit of both. So if I go into a bodybuilding style gym, even LA fitness, I can have women who come up to me who actually follow me on social media. And they'll introduce themselves because in the bodybuilding community, I'm a little bit
Starting point is 00:23:59 more known just because I've been competing for so many years and have competed at Olympia and stuff. So I have a large following on my social media just through that. So when I'm in like the bodybuilding world, people will come up to me. But every now and then you, people will be more intimidated just because I am very lean, very muscular, and I guess that can be intimidating to some, and I'll have guys who tell me, like my muscles are bigger than theirs, which they're not. But my mom always tells me I'm intimidating.
Starting point is 00:24:35 I don't think I'm intimidating. I think I'm like one of the goofiest, funniest people I know. So I think it's funny when people are intimidated, but I can see how others would be intimidated in a way, I guess. But I will have people come up and ask me questions. And also, if I see someone maybe doing something an exercise and they're not using proper form,
Starting point is 00:24:57 I feel like it's my duty as a trainer and as a coach to fix someone's form, just whether it's to protect them from injury or just help them out. So I like to communicate with others when I'm in the gym, that's for sure. I try to make myself open. We'll be right back to the Passion Start podcast. Producing a quality podcast takes a ton of content creation. And I'm constantly looking for ways to out my game and efficiency. That is why I love Grammarly and use it daily, whether it's writing podcast show notes and article, my solo episode scripts were just for email and social media posts. Grammarly not only
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Starting point is 00:27:13 struck. I think that's one of the most important things someone can do. My son who's a few years younger than he was 23, hired a personal trainer last year. And he is in very good shape, but he just thought, I feel like my form could be better and it's hard to observe yourself even if you're in a mirror to know how your form is. And because what I found is when I used to lift, I was lifting good weights at times, but I wasn't using proper
Starting point is 00:27:49 form. And when I started to use the proper form, my core strength, like overnight, just started improving so much. Right. So for me, one of the things that I always watch people do is the row. And I see these people just like just moving their whole body. Yeah. And it just, I've never said anything to anyone because I'm not a trainer, but I just sit there and look like you are just taking so much of your gains out of what you're putting into it by just the way you're doing it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:24 And what I try to do when I see someone doing something not the right way, I will say to them, I don't say, hey, you're doing this wrong, I just say try it this way and you might feel it a little bit more and then they'll kind of fix it and then they're like, oh, wow, yeah, I do think. So you never want to make someone feel bad or like they're doing it wrong,
Starting point is 00:28:44 but I just try to give a little tip on how to do it even better, for instance. So it's form and your muscle mind connection play a huge role when training. So people are always amazed because I really don't even lift that heavy when I'm in the gym, but it's just I'm always focusing so much on that muscle
Starting point is 00:29:05 mind connection because your strength training strength and training for muscle hypertrophy are two completely different muscle fibers that you're going to be working and to make that stronger versus making it bigger is different rep ranges and everything. So it's important to train in different ways for certain things, for instance, just like body melting. Right. And I was asked this of people who go to the gemelot and are training, are there body parts that you enjoy to train and ones that you're like, damn, I got to do a leg day to day. to train and ones that you're like, damn, I got to do a late day today. So I was just telling someone this the other day.
Starting point is 00:29:50 I think it's so funny that after I've been working out while my whole life, but specifically in a gym since I was 14 and I'm 26 now, and every single day I wake up and I am so excited to go to the gym. You think I get sick of it, but I don't. And I don't necessarily have any body part that I don't like training. I sometimes legs are my feet glutes. I don't like training legs too much because I'm very quad dominant. So I have to focus on my glutes more because with bikini, it's about staying balanced and it's not a glute competition, for instance, it's about having an overall balance physique. So I'm lower body dominant.
Starting point is 00:30:36 So I'm always trying to train my upper body to keep up with my lower half, but I enjoy training glutes. I love training shoulders. I love training back because those are my back is like my area of weakness. So I like training it because it's something I know I need to improve. But I can say the only thing I don't like training about back is I have really bad grip strength because I have early onset arthritis and I get I can get trigger finger in my hands. So that's really the only reason I don't like training back other than that I love it. Yeah, I, my least favorite is actually doing back, but I'm having to do it now more than I've ever had because I keep getting rotator cuff. because I keep getting rotator cuff strains. And it's because my front is stronger than my back.
Starting point is 00:31:29 So now I'm doing like two times as much back exercises as I am front. But that's great. Yeah, to help fix that muscle imbalance. I always say, you know, when people are training, if you're, if you have like just a push day, make sure you have a straight pull day, or if you just have an upper body day, make sure you're always switching between a push and a pull. That way you're keeping balance between front and back.
Starting point is 00:31:54 And like you said, if you're lacking in the back, then you might have to chill it out on the front side and work the posterior a little bit more just to keep yourself balanced. Okay. and work the posterior a little bit more just to keep yourself balanced. Okay, and when people sometimes see these competitions, I think the natural thing that comes to your mind is is it kind of like a wrestler preparing for a meat where they're starving themselves, for the few days going up. And is that a common happenstance
Starting point is 00:32:23 or most of the people so regimen it that they're gradually doing this lean down. So it's funny you say that because wrestlers are actually one of the only other athletes who can really understand what bodybuilders go through because they understand wrestling is a big one where the diet plays such a huge role because they're trying to make weight. And with bodybuilding, we dry out for the show. But like you said, if someone is prepared, they're not going to have to starve themselves and feel like death during their peak week. During peak week, what I typically do, and I know a lot of other bodybuilders do as well, is you will have to deplete a little bit more. So I do cut back on my carbs, maybe lower my fat a little bit peak week. So I will be a little bit hungrier, a little bit low energy, but then sometimes two days out from the show, sometimes just a day before the show is when we will start to fill out.
Starting point is 00:33:27 You'll fill out before the show, you'll start gradually car-bloting, up your fats a little bit, and then fill out into the show. A good coach will typically have their competitor ready ahead of schedule, and not be trying to pull everything and then kill the client the last week. So it just all goes for how prepared you are really. Okay and I'm gonna come back to that here in a second because I know you do
Starting point is 00:33:59 coach people but I did want to ask a couple more questions. So how does someone become an Olympian in the sport or reach that level that they get to compete in events like that? So in order to qualify for the Olympia, you have to win a professional show. So like I talked about getting to the IFBB and then once you're in the IFBB, you compete at that higher level. And then once you win a pro show, is what we always say, like stamps your ticket to the O. And another way you can qualify for the Olympia for Bikini, they take the top five on the point system.
Starting point is 00:34:36 So every time you do a show, if you place top five at a pro show, you can earn points. And then the top five on the point list also qualify for Olympia. So back in 2019, I actually did 13 shows. And it was on the last show of the year that I won. And that qualified me for the Olympia in 2020. So I competed at the Olympia in 2020 that was actually held right over here in Orlando, which is where they hold it every year now, because it used to be in Vegas. Okay. And just so people can understand, like, how difficult is it to win one of these tournaments?
Starting point is 00:35:17 Because I don't know how many people are trying to compete to hear, but I imagine it's more than I would suspect. So yeah, it's definitely difficult. You know, you have girls trying for years and years to try to qualify for the Olympia, and it's the same thing. You have girls years and years just trying to turn pro even. So to turn pro is very, very difficult and to qualify for the Olympia, how I always describe the Olympia, the Olympia is like the Super Bowl of bodybuilding. So that's all of the top competitors in the world. So when I compete at local shows, well, like shows in the States and stuff at the pro level, I am Hanran France from St. Petersburg, Florida. And when I'm in the Olympia,
Starting point is 00:36:09 I am Hanran France from the USA. So you're just representing your country as a whole when you're at the Olympia, just like the Olympics, for instance. But now the level of athletes, it is just insane. The sport has evolved a lot over the years. So you just have these women with amazing conditioning. They're coming in lean.
Starting point is 00:36:33 They're coming in tight. The suits that we wear are just gorgeous. Every crystal is hand placed on. And these women are just the most beautiful women you've ever seen. I had my uncle come out to one of my shows in California. And he was like, how the heck do you pick a winner? I'm just looking at all the most beautiful women I've ever seen stuff on stage.
Starting point is 00:36:55 And I'm like, I know. That's why I always say at the end of the day, you can never be upset over a placement because I feel like any woman within top five, even top 10 sometimes, could win the show when no one can argue it. Because everyone just looks incredible. Okay, well thanks for explaining that. So how do you now help women who are interested in doing this as a coach?
Starting point is 00:37:28 So I have been coaching competitors for a couple years now. I used to coach for a team online and then so I was like an independent contractor. But I actually just started my own team, which is called team infinity. So I coach clients all over the world and I coach them online lifestyle and competition prep, but all of my clients who work with me, I give them either their macros to follow, which are your carbs protein and fats, so they follow macros, or they follow a structured meal plan. And then I also give them their workouts to do every single week. And they just check in with me online via email with their way, their photos, some clients like to do measurements, but the reason we check in with photos is because the scale is not our only measurement of progress. And especially when you have someone's strength training, their body composition can really, really change.
Starting point is 00:38:30 And you can have someone look so much leaner, but then not even lose a single pound because muscle takes up so much less space than fat. So you can have someone really, really tighten up, but the scale won't even change. So that's why we also check in with photos as well. Well, because I imagine for every client that you coach, each one is going to have a different diet regimen based on their body composition and correct. Depending, like you said, your bottom half of your body is stronger than your top, but a person could be the reverse. So you have to mix up.
Starting point is 00:39:08 Yes. Yeah. And a lot of it, I always say it's, it's not a one size fits all. So when it comes down to it, it is finding what works for that client and their body as well. Because not everyone likes to follow a structured plan, not everyone likes to follow a structured plan, not everyone likes to follow macros. Some people like certain foods. Some people do better on high fat. Some people do better on low fat.
Starting point is 00:39:33 And that's what I love about coaching and training in general is just no two humans on planet earth are the same. All of my clients are so different and unique in their own ways. And it's just really fun too. You know, you're working with an engineer, a nurse, a stay at home mom, and someone in the army. And it's just so neat to have such a wide variety of clients. And the same thing with age two, you can compete at any age.
Starting point is 00:40:01 You're never too old. You have, I have six year olds who have stepped on stage before and they motivate me so much and they're such an inspiration to me even. And it's just so cool how I always say we don't exercise because we grow old, we exercise to keep from growing old. So it's just really neat to see how the fitness journey, it's truly never ending and anyone can get on board with it. Yeah, I've got a great story for you. I have a friend I used to work with as much as 15,
Starting point is 00:40:33 16 years ago. He's a number of years older than me. I think he's known as early to mid-60s, but he decided to retire. And when he retired, he completely lost his passion. He started putting on all this weight. He probably gained 30, 40 pounds. And he's like something has got to change. And so he discovered indoor rowing. And he got into it, started to love it, and then he's like, my belly is so big, I need to start exercising more in eating differently because I want to get better at this. And then he's like, and then he started to see improvement. He's like, you know, I'm not getting good sleep.
Starting point is 00:41:22 So I've got to focus on getting better sleep. And then he's like, now I've got to focus in on, what is the best time for me to do this? And how do I get into a routine? Then he's like, how do I get to better form? And so now he does it five, six days a week. And he does those things where he's like, he's got one of those systems where he competes against other people.
Starting point is 00:41:43 But he's now started a blog about rowing. He's now started coaching other people and how to do rowing. So it's amazing that he's found this passion for rowing and how many positive benefits it's had on him. Yeah, that's the one thing I always say about exercise and health. It's just, it's so amazing how it just overflows into so many areas of your life. And I always tell people, I'm like, I exercise to stay sane. I'm like, you don't want to deal with me if I haven't gone to the gym. I'm like, that's like keeps me sane, but it's just really neat. And that's honestly one of my favorite parts about being a coach and a trainer is,
Starting point is 00:42:26 I really do love working with lifestyle clients because I had a client who I trained and he was an engineer, set at a desk all day long and never worked out, never had been to a gym in his life. Now he books hiking trips to the Grand Canyon and signs up for races all the time and just lives for exercise and health. And I just think it's the coolest thing ever when someone can just fall in love with
Starting point is 00:42:52 this lifestyle. And just like your friend, that's just so amazing how he now coaches others. And there's so much opportunity within it as well. And it's just really neat to inspire other people to just get on board with it as well. Yeah, it's interesting. I did want to ask since we both live in the same town. Have you ever crossed ways with Mac, Brezina? No, I have not. competing. She's also kind of a trainer. She does not like to use the word physical trainer. Her motto is it's all about, she says it's all about the other 23 hours. She goes, because you can come in there and do that hour workout. But if you're not putting in the reps
Starting point is 00:43:37 in the other 23 hours, then you know, whatever gains you're making, you're gonna throw right out the window. But I had her on the podcast, and she was actually, I think episode three, I ever did. And a lot of the same things that you're talking about, are things that she talked about as well, about discipline, et cetera. And where this is leading to is you don't typically see people like you when you're 23, 24, 25, 26 with this level of discipline and intentionality
Starting point is 00:44:13 about what you're trying to achieve. So is that something that just came natural to you or is it something that you constantly have to work on? So it's funny. They say motivation is like hygiene, you got a shower, you got to do it daily. So I, I'm one who is very internally motivated and with what I do we're competing, you have to be very, very internally motivated. And it's funny when I first started competing, I had just gotten out of a very bad relationship and I just poured my everything into competing.
Starting point is 00:44:54 I actually turned pro in eight months and then I qualified for the Olympia like my rookie year as a pro just because I was joking said I started dating competing. And so it was like my coping mechanism. And when I go through something hard in life, I always work every single day to make myself better. And I always try to focus on the positives and I always try to do things to keep me motivated and really motivating others is what keeps me going along my own journey. So it's really great that I work
Starting point is 00:45:32 with into the industry as well because I always say my clients, they're the ones who keep me going every single day. They motivate me far more than they know and I read a lot of books, I journal and I just try to be very intentional every single day and just really live my life with purpose. And I always like being a part of something bigger than myself as well. So just staying very involved and really putting myself out there and doing things that just really keep me going every single day. And I just, I'm a dreamer. I'm a dreamer and I just, I'm always going with the flow and I'm always just trying to live life to the fullest. And I always say growth doesn't take place in your comfort zone. So I'm always trying to do things that challenge myself and help me learn and grow.
Starting point is 00:46:30 I mean, that's why I stepped on stage in the first place was just to try to learn and grow as a trainer and better myself. Well, I'm glad you brought up that you like to live authentically because that is one of the whole purposes of passion structures. How do you help people around the world become their authentic selves? Because I think more people get wrapped up
Starting point is 00:46:54 around social norms or what the world is telling them to be or what their friends are doing that oftentimes. They don't pursue something like your pursuing. And they settle for a paycheck or they settle for something that on the surface seems easy because it gives them comfort. But down the line, I think it brings a lot of discomfort and they start feeling helpless, they feel stuck. So what would be your advice to someone like that? they feel stuck. So what would be your advice to someone like that? So I read a book called The Success Principles by Jack Canfield and that book changed my life.
Starting point is 00:47:42 I read that book and it just talks about how if you have enough passion for something, you can truly make a living at whatever it may be that you want to do. But you just have to really live with that intention and that passion and that purpose. And you can't be afraid to take risks and you're going to fail. And I've failed countless amount of times. I can't even tell you how many times I failed. I feel like a failure pretty often. But the way I look at failure, it's all about your mindset. Because in all reality, I have zero regrets in my life. Because every single failure has led me to where I am today. So you can't look at a failure as a roadblock, it's just an obstacle that you're going to get around. And it's only going to make you stronger in the end.
Starting point is 00:48:30 And for every door that closes, there's going to be a new one that opens. And it's just walking by faith and not by sight. And like I said, taking that risk and I just wrote a post today and I talked about how when I let go of what I am, I am able to become who I might be. And in order to fly, you got to give up the ground that you're standing on. And you just got to go for it. And keep dreaming big. And when it comes down to it, you have to believe in yourself. And that's the one thing I try to really instill into all of my clients.
Starting point is 00:49:11 And just everyone is really self love and self confidence because people don't realize how much power we have. We have so much power that it's scary. We literally can wake up every single day and be whoever we want to be. We live in America. You can do whatever you want to do. You just got to wake up and do it. You can be whoever you want to be. You can go back to school at any age. You can go out and get any certification that you want to go get. You have the freedom to do anything. And there's going to be hard times. The other
Starting point is 00:49:50 week, I had a really rough week. I had failure and doubt creeping in, but I always say that's why God gave us friends and people in our lives. I have people who I can lean on and I tell them when I'm not feeling great and I tell them and I express My feelings of fear to others so that they can help me and help me get my head out of those bad spots and keep me going strong but surrounding yourself So important to surround yourself with people who inspire you and uplift you because
Starting point is 00:50:27 who you Who you surround yourself with is really who you become. And I always say that I'm the dumbest one in the room. And I'm not afraid to admit that because I surround myself with people who are, I think, are so brilliant. And all my friends will tell you, I'm smart, but I always think there's so much smarter than me. But then they push me to want to be better and we all just learn and grow from each other so you have to surround yourself with people you want to be like and people you want to become and just always be striving for more. Yeah I was reading an article about Pete Carroll, if you're not familiar with him or a listener, isn't he used to be the coach of the USC Trojans. And I think took him to seven national championships
Starting point is 00:51:14 and one like six of them. And he's been the Seattle Seahoe Hawks coach. But one of the biggest things that he builds a team around is Crete. And he has the saying he gives to the team, which is, you've got to compete every day. And what he means by it, it's not like you have to compete with other people on the team.
Starting point is 00:51:38 He goes, you have to compete with yourself to be the best version of yourself every day, which means living your life intentionally in every moment to make yourself better. And I think you're, you know, what you said and thank you for being vulnerable about it is we all have bad days. We all have, can get in this more foreign,
Starting point is 00:51:58 a bad week and so much of it, just because it becomes these mental demons that start impacting you. But yes, your friends and family can get you out of it. I also am a true believer in something I call the physics of progress, meaning the second law of thermodynamic states that over, you will experience entropy. So unless you put some type of positive energy in the middle of that to prevent that entropy from happening, you're eventually going to hit a declining state.
Starting point is 00:52:38 You know what I mean? Yeah. So I think that's why a lot of companies lose their ways because over time, they kind of lose that energy and drive that was making them cutting edge or unique. And I think the same thing happens in people's lives. If you don't keep the momentum going and recognize when you are having a setback
Starting point is 00:52:59 or a period of self-doubt, you know, it's kind of when you need to double down and get that influx back to keep the momentum going to get over that entropy point. So life is just like a bicycle. You just got to keep going to maintain the balance. And I always say too, the moment you think you're the best is the moment you get beat. And what I love so much about bodybuilding is just like you said, you are your own competition. It is such a U versus U sport.
Starting point is 00:53:33 It's me versus me every single day. And I think really once I let go of trying to compete with all those around me is when I really blossom myself. And one of my favorite quotes is a flower doesn't think about competing with the flower next to it. It just blooms. So everyone goes at their own pace too. So you can't compare your journey to anyone else's journeys because I always say like, we're all so unique in our own ways. And we all go our own pace and whether it's a small step or a big step, you just got to keep taking the steps. And
Starting point is 00:54:14 it's okay because all of those tiny little baby steps, they're going to add up to the big ones. So sometimes you got to break down the big goals and just take life day by day because it's tough. Whatever it is in life that you're striving towards, life is tough. That is for sure. Well, I say it a little bit differently. I say you have to, a lot of people get so focused on the output that they don't concentrate enough on the inputs. They don't produce the output. And so, you know, I find if you're really passionate about something, and maybe you've experienced this, I knew, you know, there are times in my life even now, that I can be so passionate about producing a podcast, or in the past, it was when I was competing in Division 1 sports
Starting point is 00:55:08 that you're training and time becomes valuable. Sometimes it's like I would be running for an hour and it felt like it was five minutes. And other times it's like the opposite, but what happens is you get so focused in so-and so in tune in the moment that you can bend time. I'm not sure if that's you've ever had that happen to you, but At times I feel it's the same thing. I feel like 24 hours is not enough time in a day. And then other times, you know, the days
Starting point is 00:55:42 they can fly by or they can create by. And really, I always try to live in the moment too. You got to live in the moment. And like you said, today's actions are tomorrow's results. So I always tell everyone, you have to focus on the journey because when you truly focus on the journey and enjoy the ride, then like you said, that's going to produce the outcome that you want. So you have to live making the most of every single day. And when you do that, and when you take all the actions and you focus on, like you said, in the input, then the output is just
Starting point is 00:56:22 going to come naturally. And the opportunities will just keep presenting themselves. And like you said, when you get, you can get so caught up in like just creating that angle, but there's oftentimes where I'm like, okay, let's bring it back to my why. And I remind myself, what is my why? Like what's my true purpose here? And sometimes you just have to go back to the base.
Starting point is 00:56:51 Yeah, I agree. And I have to tell you, you know, for me, having been in a corporate career for so many years and before that, the military, that when I launched out on this entrepreneurial segment of my life, it was really hard because when you're when you know you have to go to work, I mean, everything's kind of built around, you know, getting to the job and bookends. And when you're doing, when you're an entrepreneur,
Starting point is 00:57:20 it's like, I don't think I've ever worked this hard in my life. But you've got to show up for yourself every day. Yeah. Because it's so easy to say, I'm going to just take the afternoon off or I'm not feeling the energy today. It's kind of like a workout. But I always find the workouts when I feel the least amount of energy or drive are some of the most fundamental ones I've done.
Starting point is 00:57:42 That's what I say every time. I always, every time I feel like it's not the day that I want to be there, is always ends up being my best workouts. It's so crazy how that happens. It's so funny. But same thing goes, I always tell people just because I work for myself and I don't go into work every day and I work from home does not mean I sleep in. I am up and I do more before
Starting point is 00:58:06 9 a.m. than most people do who work a regular 9 to 5 job. And that goes back to when you're an entrepreneur, you have to be so internally motivated because like you said, no one's looking at your time card. It's all on you. So you have to hold yourself accountable when you're doing all these things on your own. And like you said, you can't take the afternoons off. And I just said the same thing the other day, how I've these past few weeks,
Starting point is 00:58:37 I've never worked so hard in my life. Just with starting my new business and everything, how much time and effort you have to put into it, working from the minute you wake up to the minute you go to bed. This is true. So Hannah, what is your morning routine? Because I always find this interest. So my friends, I just shared this because I also have my own podcast
Starting point is 00:59:01 and people ask what a day in the life was like for my friend Reenie and I and I I love mornings. I'm such a morning person. I it's funny. I don't believe in alarms. I wake up when I wake up. I wake up with the sun. The sun wakes me up and I just like to go off my internal clock. I wake up in the morning, I come downstairs, I make my coffee, I sit down, I read my Bible, I do my journaling, I will answer some emails, I'll make my breakfast, I'll pick out my gym outfit and it's funny, I usually get up by seven and sometimes I don't get out my door until 10 because I just take but I also I Will record what I'm eating for breakfast. I'll post my breakfast. I'll share my Bible notes I will share whatever journaling I did. I'll share a motivational quote. I'll post something
Starting point is 01:00:06 up in my Facebook group for my team. I will I always joke. I say I'll blow up my friends with some memes, but I just love taking my time in the mornings. It's kind of like my me time. And then since I work for my phone as well and I'm always doing emails in the morning too throughout the mornings, just as I go about my day, because anytime a client emails me, I just respond right away as they come in. So, always on my phone in the morning too, but I always make sure I do my Bible reading
Starting point is 01:00:38 and I get my journaling in. Does that like, those two things that just set the tone for my day? Okay, well, thank you for sharing that. So So if a person would like to learn more about you or to be able to connect with you, how can they do so? So I have my Instagram, which is just my full name at Hannah Randfriens and then my team page is Team Infinity Fit and then that's also my website is team infinity fit.com. And you can reach out to me on my personal Instagram, on my business page, either or if you wanted to join my team's private Facebook group, I would love to have anyone who wants to join in on that. I love
Starting point is 01:01:21 sharing. I've been pouring a lot into that as well, just recipes, motivational stuff. So I just try to give back where I can as well. So I just, like I said, inspiring as inspiring others is what keeps me going every single day. So I just love staying really involved. Okay. And I've got just four kind of quick questions. Okay, great. We're five then I ask and then we'll be done. So the first. I would ask is. Probably don't stay up late enough to watch it very often,
Starting point is 01:01:54 but the late late show. They often do car karaoke. If you could do car karaoke with any artist, who would you want to do it with? Oh car karaoke, which I don't, hey, I really don't watch any TV. Wow, that's tough. I'm a big country fan, so.
Starting point is 01:02:19 I don't have too many, I'm very bad at choosing favorites because I love all types of music. I don't know, honestly, maybe I just throw it back to some Britney Spears. As far as karaoke goes, or Jay-Z and Beyonce, crazy in love. That's one of my favorites. Okay. If you were selected by NASA to be one of the first astronauts to go to Mars and they said, once you land, you can establish one law for humanity on the planet Mars. What would it be? Oh, one law.
Starting point is 01:03:00 Or value or. I was going to say be kind. Smile, you have to greet every single person who comes on and say hi and give them a big smile. I can just see you greeting the Martian's now. I just told someone the other day I'm like mornings are my favorite. My favorite thing, one of my favorite things in the world is to just say good morning to people and smile and say good morning. That's it. Everyone would have to say good morning and smile. That's funny. So if there was someone that you could meet who's either alive today or deceased, who would it be and why?
Starting point is 01:03:53 alive today or deceased? Who would it be and why? Hmm. Man, ask in the hard ones. So does it have to be the first time meeting them? For this question, yes, if someone you've never met before. All right. Man, you know, I don't really have maybe like Ralph Waldo Emerson or like Oscar Wilde. Those are some two good people. I love all their quotes and everything. And I actually got to go see Oscar Wilde's grave, but he actually has one of my favorite quotes too. And that's to live as the rarest thing in the world. Most people exist. That is all. So I just feel like he'd be a fun one to meet. Well, I was going to ask you, is there a
Starting point is 01:04:35 motto that you live by and you might have just given it. Yeah. Right there. Also just, yeah, to live is the rarest thing in the world and to really feel forward, feeling forward is one of my big ones and just being kind. Those are really my main things. It's funny when I used to work for lows. Our boss was the chief information officer and I had this peer who was in charge of strategy at the time and he was always like, we have to fail fast and we have to fail often. The CIO hated it. He goes, why?
Starting point is 01:05:20 He goes failure is not an option. Why would we want to fail? I see. That is so important. They would get in this, they were both named Steve and they would get in these huge arguments. And Steve surely is like, you don't win from success, you work, you grow through failure.
Starting point is 01:05:34 We need to find ways to fail more often. That is so funny. I love that. These debates would go on all the time and this happened for a couple of years. It was funny to watch them. Oh my goodness. That is amazing. I love that. Well, Hannah, thank you so much for coming on the podcast and sharing your amazing life story and lessons. I really appreciate it. Of course, I am so happy I got to come on it was really an honor to be here. That interview with Hannah Randfran's and I wanted to talk about some of the other episodes that we brought up during that interview. One was episode 12 with Giles Stewart about how he found his passion in retirement through indoor rowing.
Starting point is 01:06:17 My episode number 19 on the power of choice, which is one of my all-time favorites and one of the most popular on the YouTube channel. An episode two with Mac Brasina who really does an incredible and inspirational job talking about mental health and the advantages of taking care of yourself. And if there's a guest like Hannah that you would like to see me bring on the show or a topic you would like to hear me discuss on our Momentum Friday episodes, you can email me at MomentumFriday at passionstruck.com or reach out to me either on Instagram, at JohnRMiles, or LinkedIn, at JohnMiles. And we have just some incredible guests coming up over the next few months. These include New York Time, Best Selling Authors, Susan Payne, Brechen Ruben, and Admiral James Stabridis, rear admiral Tim Gallaudet,
Starting point is 01:07:05 who's the former under-secretary of commerce, retired astronaut Nicole Stott, as well as a litany of other incredible guests. Thank you as always for coming in, choosing passion struck and helping us with our movement of making people all over the world reach their potential by living intentionally. Now go out there and live life passion struck. Thank you so much for joining us. The purpose of our show is to make passion go viral. And we do that by sharing with you the knowledge and skills that you need to unlock your hidden potential. If you want to hear more please subscribe to the passion strike podcast on Spotify, iTunes, Stitcher or wherever you listen to your podcast at.
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