Patriots Dynasty Podcast - 2005 Week 10: Patriots at Dolphins

Episode Date: November 14, 2023

What's the cure for a disappointing 2023 Patriots season? Going back to the past? The boys are back together to rewatch the week 10 matchup in Miami, as the Patriots take on an eclectic Dolphins team led by the College Belichick himself: Nick Saban.Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/patriots-dynasty-podcast. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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The only podcast I have to believe that is going back and rewatching every game of the Patriots Dynasty era. We started 2001. We are... We're making our way through 2005. This is 2005 week 10. The Patriots head to Miami where they haven't had much luck. It's been a little while, but with me is the full crew. We've got Steven. Hello, Steven. Hello. We've got Gregory. Hello, Gregory. You guys good to be back. And we've got Tim Turn. How are you Tim turn? Don't know. Well, don't well, Andy. No longer an intern. Tim. Well, he's for us. In terms, Mr. Amtrak now. That's right.

We've got so much job. Yeah. Working sucks, doesn't it? Yeah. Yeah, waking up at 12 30 this morning to work nine hours wasn't great. Oh. And yet you're still here bringing the heat. I can feel it coming off of you.

Dedicated to the craft, you know. This is not wearing pants, Andy. Yeah. Someone's got to keep the trains running in the podcast podcast. And yeah. Yeah. I'm probably from my job every day, you know. Yeah.

Podcasts. That's what I'll do the best I can. Yeah, just I just want to earn it every day. Support my teammates. Yeah, I'm doing it. I'm doing it for the last man for the 53rd man. Actually, me on this podcast, but I could be Greg. We'll find out. All right, Greg, Greg, a spot on this roster. He can kind of get crazy, do whatever he wants to, show up when he wants to, practice when he wants to.

Yeah, as long as you put up the numbers, it doesn't matter what you offer. What's up with the numbers? Oh, is that what we're called? What Greg does? Putting up the numbers. He's David. He's absolutely a Diva.

Yeah, he's the key shot of the group. Yeah, that's my quarterback. All right, so we have this week, the page is going to Miami and just as a refresher, this is off of the loss to paint manning and the colds. Paint manning's first win, I believe it was against the Patriots. the Patriots. At least this this Patriots team with Brady and Bella check. That was like a prime time game. I came here with money on Sunday nights. But yeah, it was it was not a good game. And then they had to travel to Miami. And this has been an up and down season all the way through. They actually haven't won or lost back to back games yet this season.

So every streak has been a one game streak. So hopefully that continues here because we don't want to be losing to it or our own. And spoiler alert, they don't lose. This is one of those rare wins in Miami. In fact, this is the first win in, oh, sorry, the second win in the last eight seasons in Miami. Because even last season, three and 13 last 16 in Miami.

And if you recall, last year 2004, the 14 and two patrons or whatever was went into Miami, like the one when Miami team had lost. And that was the, what was it Tim, the the night average war or something like that in the game? Yeah. Yeah. So this was not that. And part of that, I think, was because of, well, I was going to say, because of Gus Ferot as the dolphin scouting quarterback. I don't even know if you can say that because he actually played a decent game. I think he put up pretty similar numbers to the Brady in this one just because Brady's dealing with kind of what you see in the current pages offense where there are just no weapons left on this team.

And I think we've been talking about injuries generally in the 2005 season, because this is just the season of injuries. And it would not abate here. But it does give you, I mean, literally, I have my biggest section of noses injuries. biggest section of noses injuries. Daniel Graham is out of this game, given was like a last minute scratch. So Troy Brown is starting, which he hasn't done in a while and look pretty good out there,

but it still like wasn't on the same timing as Brady. But really the worst thing is the fact they have no running backs. Kim Paul goes out, Patrick passes out, Corey Dillon was dressed for the game and played the first play and then you didn't see him again. Which means your two running backs were Steve's boy, Mike Cloud. Mike Cloud. And, well, if it's Tim's boy, Heath Evans. This has to be Tim's boy, he's Evans.

This has to be Tim's boy. Yeah. He's Evans coming out party, baby. So he's Evans. I believe was signed either this week or the week before. After spending six weeks in Miami, where you had one carry for a grant, a little zero yards. He was their backup fullback and has 108 career rushing yards coming into this game.

So nobody expecting much except for him. And he goes off for 84 rushing yards on the game, 100 total two yards, a couple of my screen passes and such. To I would say offensively be the offensive player of the game. Yes, I would say. Just because you could tell he wanted to stick it to the dolphins, he was just finishing every run, kind of, a cordillan-esque. Who is the doctor?

I'll start over him. A few guys. Ronnie Brown. Ronnie Brown's rookie year. And Ricky Williams is still on this team. He's more like a fullback than running back. He's. Oh yeah, he was.

Yeah. But my cloud had seven rushes for eight yards. So nice. And his long was seven yards. The old Najee Harris performance. Yeah. Right. Yeah. He's having 17 for 84, the longs of 21. So I think it's like the first run to it was yeah first It was that company's so fired up dude literally ran straight up the gut play untouched for 21 yards Just a little look on for somebody to hit nothing gets me going more than seeing a fullback like go off. Yeah Especially that highlights. Yeah Did there

Electric Yeah, I watched that. There's a best start on my last stop. Electric. No. All stop highlights are the best. Yeah. Oh my god, because my blood boiling. But even with the Patriots offense, not great. They are first one of five drives, punts, ball punts, including their first driver, they drove 51 yards and punted from the Miami 35,

which is just those things that you don't see anymore. No, you don't. At all. The ball was down at the one, was like, okay, great. I think it took Miami three plays to get out of that endo, but yeah, this was was it was a game where like this this page team just had nobody was it was based on the pageant's second team. They accept four two key players coming back. Richard Seymour back on the defensive line.

And you have of course Teddy brus back, because this is third week back. And looking like the Teddy Bursky evolved, he had a couple of pass breakups, like the roving middle linebacker diving, just getting a fingertip on the ball, the knock it away, one saved a touchdown. And one he probably almost had two hands on it, I couldn't even intercept him, but...

I still think, actually actually in this game, this was, I would say the Ellis Hobbs game on defense. He was the, the Heath Evans of the defense. One of those was Ellis Hobbs a rookie this year. Was this his rookie year? Yeah, thanks. I thought so. And they were trying to pick on him the whole game because the dolphin deck you have some pretty good wide receivers with Chris Chambers and I mean technically was Walker, but he wasn't really receiver at this point. But it was Chambers and who is a Marty Booker. Yeah, Marty Booker. Like the big so some big guys, Dallas Hobbes, not big. They showed him getting congratulated by Richard Seymour. He had to like jump up to give him a high five. It was like Steve and Greg high fiveing. It's a historical.

What does that supposed to mean? Greg's not bad short. He had it. Exactly. But he had some textbook pass breakups. And then I think you had an exception actually in the third quarter. Almost gave it back. Yeah, he got a fumble recovery too. Yeah, on his own fumble. It's still going to be on sat sheet. Yeah. Yeah, one who was a rainy mic Michael had to catch and. Oh, he recovered that humble to he put yeah

well that was yeah because they were talking about coming into this game the Patriots had a six turnovers on the season three interception three film recoveries and this is week 10 so less than one a game that's pretty good not great but there was still four and four coming into this game now the dolphins were three and five. So this game was actually for the first place in the AFC East, whoever wins this game. Those are the days. Oh, yeah.

Right. Yeah, not quite the same anymore, but. Yeah, so Ellis Hobbs, the fun will recovery was one of those ones where like it was a huge gain. And then I think it was Chris Chambers got the ball like, he caught it for a huge gain and then tried to run some more and then got it knocked out and like inside the page it's 20. So what do the thing in the page recovered was one of those like, it was a great turnover, but also like after a 50 yard gain. So that's kind of the team we're dealing with in 2005. They're just hanging on literally grinding out wins

in every way possible. And because you have a Tom Brady, who was able to kind of like figure it out at the end, you can wear the win in this game instead of a loss. Like you see in 2023. Yeah, I mean, when you're given a 360 yards to dust for a, it's not great. Yeah, for a. Yeah, let's talk about Gus for a week. Is he his full name Gustave Joseph for a.

Wow, that is a sick name, right? So as soon as I saw that, I thought, all right, I got all again of this. The dude's a bit of a legend. You play at University of Tulsa. And part of that, he's playing quarter x, we also handled punting duties for the team. And he averaged 35 and a half yards per punt, which was kind of like, what's his name? Lee Johnson is to ask, right? 2001, modern day Tom Dupa, huh? Exactly. Yeah. Except, yeah, the other way around, the Tom Dupa start off as a quarterback or he plays me love the new starter game for the Jets or something like that.

Yeah, he did actually once. Yeah. He also scored the first ever at two point conversion while playing for Cleveland Browns who were coached by Bill Balecheck. Want to fake, uh, fake extra point. Um, but back to Gustave Joseph Farat. He's been around for a while because he was playing back in the 90s. He said, there was something cool about him. The last time he played the Patriots, this is the only second time he ever played the

Patriots. The first was in, when he was with Washington, he's been with a bunch of teams. And that was back in 1996 and he lost that game. So boy's been around for a while. And he was drafted the same year as he's Schueller who's supposed to be the savior of the program, the third overall pick and and Ferratz the 197th pick. And then Ferrat ends up being better than Sch and Schuhler gets traded two years after he's drafted. Yeah, I mean for us played for From 94 to 2008 And play he started

At least one game and every except for 04 and 06 So I mean he's been around by starting in 2008. He was starting in 2008 for Minnesota. He started 11 games on eight and three. What? What? Minnesota. It's 2008. 2008. Yeah. You're a boy for that. What I'm talking about. I can grind. He must have been old to shit. I'm sorry about. I can grind. He must have been older shit. It is 2005 season, he starts 15 of 16 games and it goes nine and six.

That is eight team, too. Yeah. Seven teams. That's wild. I don't know that one. I know that one. Seven teams, he plays for. Yeah, we played Minnesota twice.

Oh, fair enough. So yeah, Gus, Gus, uh, a bit of a legend. I'm, I'm a sucker for, um, journeyman quarterbacks. And I was thinking about this today when I was washing dishes. What, what, what number would you put at this? It'll be good. Yeah, all right? Yeah, you know, you're watching thoughts. You mind wanders when he's alone. This is what anything's about. Where? Where would you put the line when a quarterback becomes a journeyman? Like how many teams you have to play for?

For. You think? How many years? Uh, ever. You can figure out the obvious one. It might even be three. Three? That's it. How can you think of any on journey men that have played on three teams? Uh,

Refarve guy, you could have argued a journeyman. No, no. No, no, no, a journeyman. He's a honeymoon. Like a starting job year after year. I don't think right? He can beat him in the end. He go to like four three teams, Greg. Like who?

El Peter. Yeah, he's a journey, man. Well, it doesn't have to play. He's fit's Patrick a journey, man. Yeah, yeah, he plays like 18. That's what I mean, starting to that measure, right? He's starting all these things he goes to. Because the forad I would add on that,

Vinnie Tussler, already, like the obvious ones, right? The guys would play for like 40 teams. Who was it, Chase, what's his name? Chase Daniels, didn't he play for? But he was more of a backup for like 100 teams. But do you have to start to be considered a journeyman? I don't think so. Like JTO Sullivan, the guy who does the,

the QB school, he was on practice squads and like backups for years, but he was on like 14 different teams. Oh, wow. But I, I lot of jerk guy. I actually never put that together. That's the same JTO Sullivan. Yeah.

Well, that kind of goes to show you too, that like you could probably bring something other than being a physically good, you know, like he's clearly good at like breaking down tape and understanding coverage of Yada Yada. So you can bring that to a team outside of like actual performance on the field, you know. Exactly. And you can help out the other quarterbacks in the room by helping them with their tape study and whatnot. That's like Greg on

this podcast. Yeah, I'm a locker room guy. Yeah, glue guy. Keep them around high, you know. I'm a locker room guy. Yeah, glue guy keep them around high, you know, it's something like that. Anyway, so all right, we'll put it for maybe we'll like post it on Twitter and see what people say. I think that's a combination. Oh, four feels about right. I feel like at least four. Three doesn't feel like enough to me.

Once you hit the four and I kind of bounce around because like if Brady played for another team, you could consider him a journeyman. Well, I think it's some combination of number of teams and how long he spent on each of them. Yeah. So by far in Brady's staying there forever, even at the end of their career, maybe you can call them journeyman, but you wouldn't classify them as journeyman. So it's like 14s, but never one longer than three years. Yeah. Yeah. that's a good barometer. So let's see if Gus for off it said he does not. You play for watching number one, two, three, four, five years.

And then Minnesota for two years and then the third at the end. All right. And anytime you cross more than five year instant journey, man, you know, all right. So so more than 14 You started games for four or you started three teams of less than a year. Yeah, we're getting there. We're getting there. Jesus. All right. Anyway, back to Guth. Gustave. Some notes about his career up to this point. In November 97 for outspraying his neck by ramming his head into a padded cement wall during a touchdown celebration, the 77 tie against the New York Giants on ESPN Sunday night football. A 77 tie.

Fuck yeah. Oh my God. And then while with the Broncos, a little bit later, among his most notable performances for a quarterback to wild 3837 win over division rival San Diego on November 19th overcoming four in aceptions and a lost fumble by passing for a career high 462 yards and five touchdowns. Like this dude is his fits magic slash fit tragic before he was this Patrick was even the league, right? Yeah. He's a league right now. Cool. For us. No, Ryan Fitzpatrick is in the league right now. Oh, he's not.

Isn't he the one? Yes. Post game stuff. No. Oh, no, no, I mean like in the two, two, two, like, yeah, when he started, uh, I believe this is his rookie year or he started in 04. I think he started with the Rams 2005 was first year here with the Rams.

Start a three games and then doesn't start again until 2008 was Cincinnati. So this is kind of like the only for Ron was like I can do that. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Ryan is not even ready to start. He's got to be free stuff to cut for Ron, I think. Yeah, yeah, for, yeah, Ryan It's not a great stuff to cast for Ron. I think yeah, yeah, for sure definitely does Do they have the same team is another good question?

So I'm gonna have a stat check that for me. I will stat check that all right No, I mean we're heading to Yeah, because he you go to Minnesota. I mean, he goes to the Rams right after this. Oh, then yes, and then he mentors young That's sick. It's like, hey, dude, you can stay in this league a long time. You can suck. I gotta do. Just had a good sometimes. And if you throw four picks, he just throw five touchdowns. Is that he's probably sauce? It's not about how you start. It's about how you finish.

Well, speaking of that, um you know that Farat has a record that Tom Brady has actually I think he tied Tom Brady for no. I don't forget when it was yeah, he Tom Brady tied a Gus Farat record because in 2008 while Farat was with the Bears, he threw a 99 year touchdown pass to burn our barion for the longest touchdown pass from scrimmage. So on that list, Gus Ferrat Tom Brady. Oh Jesus. Tim turns put on pants for this. Yeah, it's getting real. It's getting hot in here. I got another video on for that. It's getting real. It's getting hot in here.

I got another video on for that. And then, sadly speaking of our boy Brett Farr, in 2009, Farrot had expressed interest in being the starting quarterback for the Vikings for the 2009 season, but he was released on February 27th, after Team Trader for a quarterback, Sage Rosenfelds, who also wouldn't start because the Vikings ultimately signed Brett Farr to be their starter there. So that Brett Farr season in 2009, wasn't that the one where Farr went to the playoffs and

then got beat up by the Saints and the bounty gate Saints. Was that 2009? I wonder that I wanted him to go to the Super Bowl so bad. That was a good season for him though. Sick. I could imagine if that was Gus Farot instead, how much better it would have been. I don't know. Oh yeah. Got to have a gunslinger like. I mean, I guess for us a little bit of a gunslinger, but I mean, for our dual Tom Brady in 2005. Yeah. Can you say that about? I wouldn't.

No, no, Andy. As far as your agendas go, you would only done that because of entries to the Patriots defense. That's right. I mean, there was something to that. And I'll give you, I'll give you, I'll give you exhibit a Troy Brown, not only starting at Y receiver for the injured David Givens, but is now in the second half playing the nickel corner again. And you can tell he's a bit rustianic because his coverage isn't what it used to be in 2004.

Yeah, or he's just old. A bit of both. But the first play that they showed him on there, the Patriots sent him in on a nickel blitz from the nickel spot. Got a quarter of blitz. Love it. Yeah. So, and also he was a shortman on the punt because they had Dwight's name.

Tim Dwight. Tim Dwight, thank you. We'll get to Dwight in a moment. But he was a shortman on those punts and the dolphins' punter was having a rough game, and so he actually filled a couple punts as well. So this is the old school Troy Brown game. Yeah, it's like every snap. and so we actually feel a little couple of puns as well. So this is the old school Troy Brown game. Yeah, it's like every snap. All three faces, baby. It just didn't leave the field.

There's kept him out there. Already five years old doing that, then. Right. Do you need Steve? How old are you? 36. Greg, how old are you? 34.

You think your body's up to playing an NFL game? Absolutely not. Greg, could you play, could you play it a college soccer game right now? Uh, uh, not well, but yeah, I could, I could last to, like, the, the Troy Brown level. I mean, it's a wild comparison. I'm saying like as Troy Brown was to the patrons, would you be to a college? Yeah, I'm crafty Andy. You underestimate my craftiness. Also, a great locker room guy.

So I would be an asset to it. Yeah, that's great. So you would be the Troy Brown of the UNH soccer right now who currently ranked number 11 in the country, I think. Yeah, right. They are sweet. I just beat Vermont. Mm-hmm. Were they ever ranked when you played Greg? No comment. Greg didn't play. He's a great locker room guy. Ask anybody on that team. Get them. I'm afraid of the ratings, but.

All right. So the Tim Dwight comments leads me to our section on the commentators. As always, eventually comes back to. How would you pronounce that name? What's name? Tim Dwight? Yes. Just like how it's pronounced, Tim Dwight. Steve, Tim Dwight. Greg?

I can't imagine how you would mispronounce it to be on it. It was not Tim Dwight. Dwight. The last name is one syllable, right? Dwight. Who's the commentator, Andy? I don't fucking know. I don't think it was the CDS curve. It was Tim Dwight. Tim Manson, well, some's pressure. Yeah, I think it was every fucking time. And it was it was bad.

They were also criticizing Teddy Brusky for trying to jump over the line, the running back would pick him up on blizzes. Like, bro, do you not know that's his game? Oh, that's dangerous. That's how people get hurt, Andy. That was literally that was literally the quote. You could get hurt. It's he literally came back on his heart and two, this has been his game since his rookie season. Maybe he's still alive. Yeah, Andy. God. I don't think he's gonna do this. Player safety issue.

Here's another quote. This was on the fumble that Tim was talking about, the long play and then the fumble. I actually quit looking at the play because I thought it was over. That's this top quality commentating. And then I have a little guessing game for you. I'm talking about somebody in this game and they said, I think he's the smartest football player in the NFL, even more than Peyton Manning. Who is he talking about?

Tom Brady. No. Keith Evans. Nope. Oh, this is a good question. Let's see. And many guys, is this? Nope. Not a Patriot.

Oh, Ben Watson, then. Not a good guess, but no, not a Patriot. That's right. Well, it's a question. All right. And the commentator said, I think he's the smartest football player in the NFL, even more than Peyton Manning.

Who's he talking about? Ricky Williams. Can't be true. He's serious. He much Wes Walker The person in this game. Yes on the dog. Walker on the dolphins. He is talking about Zack Taylor.

Very close. That's that promise. That's why I met. Yeah. Zach Thomas. I'm both great. Those great. Because he watches a lot of films. And he's self scouts.

What does that even mean? He scouts himself. He watches film himself to figure out where the deficiencies are so we can get rid of him. What's his what's that test called? Oh, the wonder like, yeah, let's see what is wonder like. So I've been to the South Beach bruski. I just typed in that Taylor.

Got them. Yeah, big big dummy. Hey, and a goddamn it. Oh, come on, Greg. No, go. Orch is a factor. What kind of walk around guy is doing this? So, well, you guys are looking at I'll talk a bit about the game because I might be the one who watched it. I think Tim will watch it most of it. If you're gonna watch this game, the page will do win 20, 16.

It is an exciting game. I would just watch, watch like, start in the third quarter, like towards the end. Could Brady, Brady in this game took some fucking hits, like vicious hits. He got 23 on the one, you're like, out of 10. 50. That's pretty good, right? Yeah, it's like the middle of the pack, I think. Yeah.

Well, yeah, a little lower than average, so I was like, less than 50%, not great. Yeah, my Brady this is one of those like, I feel like the dolphins do this to him a lot where bra just takes a bunch of shots like they there were some clean like just unobited to the quarterback. And bra just like stands in there and just like hocks a deep ball for no reason. One he just chucked as far as he could over the the furthest defensive back, like nobody in the area just like to avoid grounding, but he was getting the shit kicked out of him. But even during all that, he manages to throw a beautiful touchdown to Ben Watson.

And then starting off the fourth quarter, the Patriots pick off for us, that's your boy, Alice Hobbs. starting off the fourth quarter, the Patriots pick off for us, that's your boy, Alice Hobbs. And then it kind of goes back and forth from there. Like for all the not scoring any touchdowns or anything, the fourth quarter goes, Patriots feel goal, Miami feel goal, Miami touchdown, Patriots touchdown. And then Miami drives it all the way down. First and goal from the New England six to end the game. Where Ellis Hobbs breaks up the first two plays,

they try a fade to the far side of the field, which probably not the best decision. I don't know who had the play call, whether it was our journeyman or the coach who we'll talk about in a second, but they were literally throwing it into the sun like a fade where the ball like getting thrown into the sun. We're after second one you could see whoever the wide receiver was basically pointing the sun

saying like don't throw this anymore because we can't see it. And then uh third down, oh that's first and second out, third down, Hank Poteet, who hasn't seen playing time yet this season, makes an open field tackle on Ricky Williams on a swing pass to lose a couple yards. And then on fourth down, it was a Sunday's name on the coverage, but it was just Chris Chambers dropping a low-ish ball that, you know, he got his fingers on, probably should have caught, which would have been the game winner.

So Patriots hang on to win 23-16. In a back and forth defensive struggle, which makes a lot of sense because this, my name is Dolphins coach, who we haven't touched on yet, is Nick Sabin. Oh, most of you know him today is the Bella check of the NCAA football. Is that about right? I'm not a college football guy. Is he basically a billbell check of college football or not really? Yeah, I mean, he's the best college football coach ever,

probably. So, yeah, part is, and he's not even joking. He doesn't even know. I don't care. But Nick Saban does. Dude, I've never been more invested in college football. Really? Yeah. Cause the paths are going to get a sick draft pick. I'm scouting fucking Washington's backup quarterback and the fucking late night pack 12 game. Okay, watch a game for this part. Got a lot of arm talent, but you know, a little way to the wonder that comes out. Yeah, good decision making.

I want to see what a three cone time is. Yeah. I wonder what JT solvents got to say bottom. Oh, I'll find out. So yeah, this is Nick Saban's first year. Is it a coach? Then you can tell he used to be in college because the team is still using those sideline signs that they hold up to call plays and formations on TV.

Those are in the news. That's actually a good topic that we can discuss here. There you go. Yeah. You think that's cheating? Have you heard Andy? What's happening? He has no idea it's going on.

I have, but I've asked some people to explain to me because it doesn't, it just sounds like advanced scouting to me. Is it not? I think it extends the rules. Why? And it does it. Right. So then what's the problem? Yeah, it's a saying, it's very similar to the ball

inflation thing, right? Or is it a spikey? It's a spikey. Yeah, it's the same. It's college spy gay. But there is, there is a, there is a photo out there of this assistant, right? So central Michigan played Michigan State the first game of the year. Yeah.

And there's a photo that looks like it's this University of Michigan assistant dressed up in central Michigan gear standing on the sidelines with the central Michigan team, supposedly scouting Michigan states signs, right. Which would be ridiculous. I mean, that is ridiculous. That's because that would mean central Michigan and Michigan are in cahoots, which is also in sideline passes and they're dressing them up so you can spy on it. I mean, that seems a little over the top, right?

That's amazing. Oh, yeah. If we need our inspector, that's that seems a little over the top, right? That's amazing. Oh, yeah. If we need our inspector, that's like open a congressional inquiry into this, for sure. Where is Senator Specter when you need him? Come on, buddy. I mean, I did see the video of him wearing the glasses that obviously have like a camera, like the sunglasses, they have the camera in them, because when he turns like you can see the green light in the corner. Yeah see there's that thing too. A lot of us are wearing the special spy glasses like all of it's so ridiculous.

It's amazing. It's super fun to watch. And something about like somebody buying tickets and then selling them to somebody else for every game or something like that. I don't know. Like I guarantee most college and professional sports teams do this in probably all sports. Everybody's taping everything. Yeah, it seems like you to go through the trouble to get on the other team's sidelines.

And like, it's like, why wouldn't you just like videotape it? Right. Yeah, so the signs are huge. You can see them on talking the TV broadcast. Exactly. Yeah, just, just, you know, that's it you take much spying to do that, you know, and when they just change him up every game, it's like. They all not then you deserve to have them stolen basically.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it's exactly. There's a line there, right? Because like even the Houston thing, it's like the Astros was like, hey, yeah, this is not. This is like everyone does it, but then, you know, wearing like buzzers in their uniforms and being on trash cans to indicate, like,

that seems like it's like not legit, right? Yeah, but that's like affecting, like the individual play, whereas like trying to steal signs is it feels more broad than that. You know what I mean? Like you still have to go and execute, whereas like if you know what the pitch is coming, like you even know what the play is coming, like you still got to stop it. The green bay Packers won the first like two Super Bowls running the exact same sweet play. Everything was coming, but you couldn't stop it.

Tom Brady ran the same exact quarterback sneak for 20 years. The Tish push. You know what's coming? Yeah, exactly. The Tish push. Now you know what's coming. You just can't stop it. They should outlaw that shit. No. People are going to get hurt, Andy. Players. Yeah, it's a player safe. No, they're not. I already discussed this. No, we see it hurt. Fuck jailing her. It's fucked. The Eagles, dude. Yeah, that's fine. I agree with that. Stop it. There's a way to stop. I guarantee you the way to stop it.

Hasn't been as effective. I mean, for the Eagles, it's been effective, but around the league, I feel. Yeah, it's just because they're really good. Yeah. Yeah. They have a good offensive line. Yeah. And a good quarterback.

Jason Kelsey. Yeah. I mean, Jalen hurts isn't a push over either. Like when Mac does it, he's like, he's so fucking real. Yeah, I know. It's bad. It's not good yet. Yeah. It's fucking hate it. For those that can't see, Tim just did his impression of looking rather spastic, if I may say. I'm looking rather spastic if I'm not sick. Braille. Braille. That's fair. He does seem a bit frail.

Which is not what you want from here, starting quarterback. But Greg, I thought you were saying before we started this, you had some college coach failures that you had looked into. I liked wanted. Yeah, you had looked at it like that. Yeah, Nick save and put me onto this. Right. So I went down a bit of a rabbit hole of college coaches coming to the NFL and just bombing because I think it's, it's personal to me

because I hate college coaches. I think they're ridiculous. And I think all this like these spills they do of like, oh, I'm turning, you know, these people, these young men into adults and I do players. And then they're like, well, should you pay them? They're like, no, no, no, that'll take what we're doing. It's like they don't give a shit about the players that'll take what you're doing. But I get paid 14 million a year. And they love like telling kids what to do. And they have to listen. So it's like that dynamic does not work and you gotta felt it's like, I'm the leader, you do what I say, yada yada thing.

So Greg clearly has no baggage from his own college coach. What ever Steve. So I just looked up, there's, I have five of them here that I found some funny things on each one of them. So we could start with Sabin.

He has the least amount of funny shit. That makes sense. Yeah. So obviously like he won a national championship with LSU before going to the dolphins, right? Signs as big deal with the dolphins spends two years there 2005 being one of them Wasn't that bad he was nine and seven first year and then six and ten He went two and two against these paths. Yeah, I thought he was worse than that. Yeah, I didn't like didn't have that much town on the team right

Apparently the big thing was they won't he he wanted drew breeze and they signed cold pepper instead. Oh really. Yeah, I remember that. It's when he was like, I'm not fucking him out. Yeah. Can you imagine if Nick Sabin had a Drew breeze Drew breeze. Yeah. And this event is preparing. Yeah. Yeah. Wow. But it's like the end of this year at the end of 2005, there was a lot of rumors swirling about Alabama, because there's an open position. So on December 21st, he says, I guess I have to say, I'm not going to be the Alabama coach.

And then January 3rd, he announces that he's accepted the Alabama coach position. Classic, folk, and college coach. Yeah. Typical. That's what I asked. Every in the lurch. Our friend Steve Spurrier. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Again,

another one where I think it's probably born in indictment on Snyder than it is. Yeah. Yeah. Sure. That's a tough spot to be in. Because all those millions, he was the, he was the last coach to beat the patriots before they went on the 21 game ministry. Steve Spurrier. That's right. Yeah. That's true. Yeah. So he was like super established as a college coach, wanting to see a title with Florida. Right.

Seven time conference coach to the year. And at the time was the most lucrative coaching contract in the NFL when he signed it in 2002. Oh wow. Two seasons with the R words, seven and nine and five and eleven. Apparently he wanted Danny Wurfel as his starting quarterback, because he wanted Heisman at Florida. Oh right. And Snyder stepped in and demanded Patrick Ramsey. So nearly done. We're really good, classic lose, lose right there. Yeah. But he did have a couple funny quotes. He said, this is like looking back.

He said, I went to the team that offered the most money instead of the best situation. You just, I remember that. Yeah, it is what it is, right? I think we talked about that back when we did the, the game. Yeah, and he said, I did a lousy job. The GM did a lousy job. He just happened to be the owner. So who needed to go?

He likes. Yeah. The dance nighter effect. The little bellic jack effect. Ooh. Ooh. Ooh. Let's hear you in there.

And my personal favorite one here is Lou Holtz, which I didn't even realize Lou Holtz had coached in the NFL. Did he? Yeah, right. In 1975, he had one season with the Jets. Oh, geez. Yeah.

But that was good. So he was like pretty good before this. I think most of his success in college came after. But he was like 33 and 12 with NC State. Mm-hmm. Has one season with the Jets. He admitted to Steve's table that he had never watched an NFL game

before his first preseason game with the Jets. What? Yeah. Yeah. He tried to run the option offense with Joe Namath, who was like at the tail end of his career, had undergone multiple knee surgeries on both knees. Oh, Joe. And he had John R multiple knee surgeries. Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no because they run it through fucking. Maybe. Don't know. Yeah.

Yeah. Running it seems like a strong word. Um, he also tried to implement a college fight song. Oh. A specific college fight song. Oh, that got. Apparently the players hated it. What song was it?

Um, there's like, people have pieced it together. There's no like audio of it. Oh boy. People have pieced it together. It's a piece of shit. I read the lyrics and they're hilariously bad. Oh, yeah. Yeah.

I'm so in for that. I like Greg. Yeah. He had a couple funny quotes. He said, God did not put loo-holt on this earth to coach in the pros. Just blame it on God. That's great. Well, it was his record.

He got fired before the year ended. He was 3 in 10 and he was hard resigned with one game left. Wow. Yeah. It didn't make the full season. He also said, if I knew the NFL was this tough, I never would have taken the job. Yeah, you may have should have watched the game before he got the big. Jesus. And then there's Bobby Patrino. Yeah, he was, I think he ended up a BC, right? After. Isn't he a BC guy? No, well, he

Game maybe I'm thinking of college basketball. He did He led Louisville to national prongents in Orange Bowl and then he signed a 10-year contract with Louisville and then six months later leaves for the NFL They signed them to develop Michael Vick. Oh, right. This is that time frame. And then before even training camp starts, Vic gets tagged for that illegal dog fighting ring. And he's not allowed to leave the state of Virginia. So basically, Vic's done. He's cooked for the year. So he's basically screwed. It starts out three in 10 and then resigned to become head coach of Arkansas. That's right. Less than 24 hours after personally promising owner Arthur Blank that he was staying in Atlanta. That's what I was thinking of.

Yeah. I had his resignation and save in the resignation. Yeah. Like the kind of the same, but this was like mid season, you did, right? Yeah, mid season. That's rough. Yeah. And apparently the players hated Patrino.

He informed his players of his departure via a four sentence laminated note left at the locker of each player, a move that many in the organization and in the NFL harshly criticized. Yeah, no kidding. Good Lord. And then the best of the best is definitely urban Meyer. Yeah. All right. I mean, this one's recent, but even reading through some of the stuff is so fucking funny.

And he's probably the most accomplished coming in. Yeah. He's a three time national champion with two different teams for the Ohio State, seven-time conference champion. He leaves college because if you remember in 2018, there was the reports about his like, his assistant coach with the Spalsel abuse stuff. Oh, yeah, he swept it in the rug, right. Yeah, he swept it in the rug and then they suspended for three games and then basically have less season. He's like, I got out of my eye here. So he's hired by the Jacksonville three years later, essentially, 2021. So he's hired in January. So I'm just going to timeline out the shit that happened. Oh, he put that

organization through. So February, he hires a former Iowa strength and conditioning coach, Chris Doyle, despite allegations of accusations of racist remarks and bullying during his time with the Hawkeyes, and Doyle then resigns 48 hours after protests erupts. So not great after that's why you basically left Ohio State was your assistant coach being an asshole. Yes, I can. So in July rolls around NFL finds a 100,000 for violating practice rules, triggering organized team activities, a little slap in the wrist, that's not that bad. October, after a week three game against Cincinnati hangs out in Ohio goes to a bar a Columbus area bar urban Myers pint house

And a video appears of him inappropriately touching a woman who is not his wife right a very young woman right? I call it a cool. Yeah, which looked like his hand was up her Her butt cheeks yep December two months later during a staff meeting, Maya delivered a biting message that he's a winner and his assistant coaches are losers, according to several people informed of the contents of the meeting, challenging each coach individual to explain when they've ever won and forcing them to defend their resumes. That sounds like double a sweet we need move right there. Right.

I'm a winner, you're a loser. And then December, the final nail on the coffee was two weeks later, the former Jags kicker Josh Lambo, publicly accused Meyer of physical abuse, saying that Meyer repeatedly kicked Lambo's leg during warm-ups. After Lambo told Meyer never to kick him again, Lambo said, my are responded, I'm the head coach, I'll kick you whenever the fuck I want.

I've got to go to a story where the players held like a player's only meeting. And I want to line back to somebody like one of the headguides on the team, I don't know, they captured something. said something innocuous about the coaches. And so he took one of his assistant coaches phone and called the player at his house that night when he found out. And basically like lit into the player on his assistant coaches phone so that that you would pick up the phone not that it was for him. That's the kind of shit that like probably works in college. Maybe. Right. If you're just like a college kid, it's like a 18 and 19 year old. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You're like, oh my god dude.

He's gonna kick me with the team. I got to eat. You know,, we're an NFL player, be like, oh, fucking time for the shit. Exactly. Yeah. I bet there's also a shit like this, I was state, but it's like, if you, it works, you know? Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's probably true.

Yeah, so he's 2 and 11 in his fire mid season. So I think three of the four, didn't show this season. Shortest stints of like, like non like in-term coaches are all college coach like Lou Holt's Patrino and Ferbin Meyer are like three of the shortest coach head coaching stints in the NFL. Interesting. I'm also surprised you didn't throw um Du Bois chip Kelly in there. I know Chip Kelly could argue. I don't think he was much of an asshole though.

You just, it did work as well. Yeah. But he definitely like came into the Eagles and just like scrapped everything to try run his system. Yeah. It was actually awesome to watch though. And just create a way with it anything that they had. And then the NFL like you can't run that system in the NFL, but you just doesn't

worry. The pages have already tried it. It doesn't work. I think it worked for a little bit. It worked with the past. Yeah, in that one season, but then the referees would like step in and like hold the place so you couldn't run up like a play quickly enough. So it did work a little bit. Chip Kelly took over the Eagles in 2013 when 10 and 6, and then 10 and 6, 2014, 6 and 9 and 2 and 14.

And that 2 and 14 was with the 49ers. And 2016. I think so. Yeah. What was the injured or something like that? Nah, he just played a bunch and like his numbers weren't terrible, but the team was awful. Do you know that chip Kelly is a local boy? Of course, I know. He's a fucking local legend. Born in, he's from Dover, New Hampshire. Yeah.

Went to UNH. Coach for the UNH. Coach UNH. Actually, while I was there, he was the offensive coordinator. And I remember going to a game because you and H, not a big football school, but they started the game with surprise on size kick, recovered it, and then ran a flea flicker on the first play from scrimmage to score like a 50 yard touchdown. And that's how they opened the game. And it was. And it was just playing mad and did.

It was. It was amazing to watch. And then he got his shot at Oregon as the offense coordinate became the head coach was doing the exact same fucking thing. So when he, when he came to the NFL, I was psyched to see that. So I was, too.

I was a big fan. I mean, he like revolutionized college football. Did he really? I've like that? Like an offense? Yeah. That was surprising. I mean, it was a, yeah, it set a bunch of records in like NC, where they got T a where they got the league that the UNH is in. One double A. One double A. That's it is. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And they would they were going to like the finals a bunch for that, that tournament that they have and lose to like Montan

every year or whatever they're the fucking wheelhouse team is. But yeah, they were always setting records for one of their wideers. You got drafted by the Bears, I think. Steve Brooks. Jerry Rice's touchdown uh, touchdown record college touchdown record. Yeah. Yeah. That's ideal. But for every good, I mean, there's obviously examples of good coaches to write Tom Cofflin, Pete Carroll, most notably, he's probably the best one. That's what we're going to say. That's what I could think of as Pete Carroll. Jimmy Johnson. He's another like, I suppose you know, Jimmy Jones. Yeah.

Yeah. You could you get our you harboh. I mean, he was a short stimp. But it took he took the other way though. Did harboh coaching college before coming Stanford. Oh, he was. Anyway, the 49ers and then back to Michigan. Well, rumors they'll come back and go coach. I forget. I'm ours. Yeah, I probably would too. I mean, I don't like him personally, but I think he's a good coach unfortunately.

Any cheats? Okay, we're already like, how you match me? You're from Spare, right? He's cultured, dude. Perfect, sit. All right. Should we do best and worst? I think we pretty much covered this. Let's do that. all right. Um, tree do best and worst.

I think we pretty much covered this. Let's do it. All right. Let's do it. Go first. Steve. I'll go first. Yeah.

My best is I didn't watch this game, but it sounds like the ending of it was the opposite of the game we went to with our family like 15 years ago. Yeah. I'll try. My worst was the end of that game. What was the end of that game? I don't remember pads of the ball like inside the tent and they need a touchdown.

They couldn't do it. Yeah. You remember that game, Greg? That was the no glass in the pool game. Yeah, that was when you took your shirt off after the game. Yeah, when you were saving, you're just yelling at everybody. Exactly. I was very upset. Yeah, the mom when you took your shirt off after the game. Yeah, when you were saving. When you were just yelling at everybody. Exactly. I was very upset. Yeah, I'm on track.

The mom was definitely pissed. Yeah, that tracks. I mean, looking back, probably rightfully so, I did. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't think mom has ever gotten pissed unrightfully so. Yeah, that's fair. But I mean, you got to expect it, right? Yeah.

It's not like we had high in the fact that we were obnoxious at Patriots games. No. Oh, yeah. No, that was a pretty obvious thing. Yeah. I mean, dad left us at a Lowell spinners game because you were heckling the... Well, you were heckling everybody. And I think his breaking point was when you heckled the mascot.

And he's like, I can't do this. And you just laugh at that. That's just, he did not leave us. Greg, Andy. X up here. Andy tells the story all the time. And each time it gets worse and worse. No, he, well, he put that boy out of loyal spinners. I was like, I was like 15. Yeah. And you were heckling your heckling the mascot.

Yeah, we're just having a little fun. That's how I remember it was we everyone was laughing Greg. It's a royal way But he did he he walked out and on the top of all of like where that stands on most noxious subvenit sporting events and he That's not even making that's not even making the top 20. Oh, I know That's not even making the top 20. Oh, I know. I didn't say what. What's number one, Greg? Well, I mean, I was the time I got drunk, danked. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah. I didn't know if you had a chance to be annoying on that one, though. It's true. You would have been had someone sent me a video that was taken in the parking lot from that game like last week. Oh, dude, I couldn't even watch it. It was so bad. video that was taken in the parking lot from that game like last week. Kelly's on. Dude, I couldn't even watch it. That's what I see.

You guys say, how do we get a hold of that? I'm going to reach Kelly after that. Yeah, we can just say that. It's like an obnoxious. For the next build game that we do. I want that maybe when we get to that game, because probably not that far away. I'll give you a say. Yeah, that's when we get to that game because probably not that far away. I'll give you a say. Yeah, that's probably around there. Yeah. Right. Good.

All right. Can I do my best and worse? Yeah. Give it to me. Okay. My best is that hit by a Sunday Samuel. That was good. Yeah. I watched the highlights and there's one hit where I think is Ronnie Brown, right? Just coming hit where I think it's Ronnie Brown, right? Just coming out. I think it was a Ricky Williams, but yeah, Ricky Williams. Yeah, goes off right. It's like between the tackles run and then fucking Sam. Sam will show us about a nowhere. It's probably got like 60 pounds on Samuel. You just way older to a big bass. Yeah. Yeah. No, I don't know. I remember it about his game, but I mean, that's, yeah.

Is that, is that, does that hold true? And is he a good tackler? I haven't been watching games. Uh, I wouldn't say he's a good tackler, but he's a big hitter. He doesn't wrap up. Um, so he does, he, this is not the first time he's taking that kill shot. He did one on a tight end a couple of weeks ago too. That's sweet, dude.

That's how I'd play to. I know. Yeah. That's sweet dude. That's how I'd play to. I know. That's the truck's text. Do you think I heard this? I heard this question when he's rhetorical questions on a podcast. Do you think if you had 20 tries doing the Oklahoma drill with Derek Henry, you think you'd get them down any of those times. No, no way. Not even like a aim for his legs and just shoot, you know, no, because people my size can tackle. All right. Now, describe that. What does that size like six foot 180, right? No, no. I mean, obviously, they're better athletes than me, but they're people absolutely. You can't even like grab his leg on the way by. No, you, I mean, obviously there are better athletes than me, but they're people absolutely You can't even like grab his leg on the way by no, you know what's gonna happen is you're gonna try that the first one and your

Your head's gonna hit his tree trunk of a thigh and you won't get up for the next 19 You know what? I was that probably there's a probably an effect of like after the first three or like I don't want any Maybe if I did it once per day 20 days in a row, I don't think so right time to heal up Yeah, that's not probably No strategize my attack Yeah, my strategy would be just Big for the dick hopefully And maybe I get him down.

I tripped it. You got to go trip. Yeah. No, I'm going to have a handful of sand. I'm going to chuck in his eyes and see what happens. Go on. I'm hungry. No, we couldn't do it. No chance. No chance. No chance. That's what we're doing. All right, who's next? You're next, Tim. All right, so I have two best. All right. My first best is Willie McGinnis, because he was a maness in this game, dude.

He was beaten up for Gus for a while. Yeah, there was one play that he hit him and grabbed his face mask after like as I did. Okay, I did. And nothing got called. Yeah, just co-op them in the face as awesome. Yeah, it's pretty sweet.

And then obviously my second best is going to be Tim Dwight because he's sick. He had a break play at the end to go ahead touchdown. Yeah. So sick. And then my worst. Me, I'm my worst because I didn't prepare as well as I'd like to for this game. So that's right. We were talking off the pod that Tim came in, wine to be Andy, and he's becoming more of me every week that comes by.

I'm slowly becoming Greg Brown. I love the Greg takes it as a call for me. I lead to Greg Brown. That's why he showed up without pants on today. That's still me. Well, hey, at least I'm like towing the line of both. So you're still time Tim, don't you worry, buddy? We'll get there with you. We'll work with you. I appreciate you guys. No, cheers. All right. I feel like that wasn't negative enough, so I'll give you a couple of words here.

My worst Chris Chambers, because at the beginning of this game, apparently he got obsessed about Nick Saven calling his group of wider receivers decent. And then went out and pre-seasoned to drop like three balls, one being the game when he touched down. So perhaps decent may have actually been too strong of a word for what Chris Chambers is. So good for him. Perhaps decent may have actually been too strong of a word What Chris shame is this is So good for him how would you describe the Patriots current wide receiving core that's gonna start next week decent young Young Hi, see you

Yeah, I do have to say like in this game watching do get on branch. I was like, do tomorrow Douglas like has some. He's got a little bit of that in him. Yeah, he's got some wiggle to him. I'll give you the. Douglas is the future, man. I'm real high on him. I love him. Yeah.

He's a man six round pick out of where the Liberty. Yep. Come on. Now that's what you need. So you need a wider seer. He's the next. He's the next Troy Brown. Get him out there. Return him. That's what you need. So you need a wider seer. He's the next he's the next Troy Brown Get him out there return and punch

Defense to a Betty could Must he combos and then we'll bench him for six weeks. Yeah, exactly All right, so I don't know if this is a worse, but there's a Ricky Williams So you can't you can't have a Ricky Williams game without like a Ricky Williams Don't come from a boy Andy. I'm not I'm just this is a quote. This So you can't have a Ricky Williams game without like a Ricky Williams. Don't come from a boy Andy. I'm not. I'm just this is a quote.

This is not a worst or a best. OK. But apparently it came out to that he is a vegetarian or vegan maybe. I can't wish what they said. But so they asked him, you know, does that mean like you don't eat meat or do you just like not eat like do you still eat fish and chicken and his response was I don't eat I don't eat nothing with eyes I have that's pretty good uh but that begs that begs the follow up to see potatoes

good about black eyed peas black eyed peas get the same oh go on Steve black eyed seasons anything with that. Steve. Well, then can you eat a egg? You eat eggs, right? Oh, they don't have that. So yeah, I guess so. Yeah. I mean, that's not vegan, right? Yeah. So I guess you should vegetarian then.

Yeah, that sounds like vegetarian. I think I think it was a vegetarian. Yeah. I think they may have said vegan, but. And then here's a. What we'll call it a best. You know, in back in those days, like they're, their idea of fancy graphics was overlaying the field goal percentage by like yards.

Oh, yeah, yeah, that's. So that would be a Terry and inside 10 yards, he's 100%. That's a mystic. Automatic. Right. And then from 20 to 30, he's 93%. Almost automatic. Between 10 and 20 yards, he's 87%.

Weird that he's better from 20 to 30 than he is from 10 to 20. I thought Yeah, that is weird. I mean, we gotta talk sample sizes here Andy. I'd be up perhaps I could be what it is but Anybody want to know a lot of my friend. Yeah, the Gaussian curve anybody want to guess what he is from over 30 25% no, it's higher 87, well, right Steve 30? 25%? No, it's higher than that. Eight, seven. All right, Steve. 88. 68. I mean, not ideal. I think it was a different league back then. Right now you probably see 88.

Now from over 30, yeah, between 30 and 40. We had yards where the ball is snapped because of 30. I'm sorry. The ball snapped. It's just on the field. So it's where the ball is snapped or 47 yard field goal. I mean, that's 47, 37 yard field goal. And I get an 80. Yeah, you're not getting 80. I think I maybe higher, but I don't think it's like 57 yards as long as shit. The people who hit those these days though, like long field goals aren't nearly as missed as they used to be.

I don't know. Yeah, but I'm not an 88% of them. I feel like kickers are getting let go left and right because they suck. But I feel like they get let go even though they're not missing kicks though. Not that I'm gonna because they suck. But I feel like they get in the Lego, even though they're not missing kicks, though. Not that we suck. There are a lot of best kicks this year. But my best is Ellis Hobbs showing a something similar how to cover. It's great. And then he's the he's the he's the difference revenge game.

Oh, shit. Yeah, that's a of better my best. Ben Watson, we're gonna talk about having two touchdowns. Kind of work out game for him. Yeah, and they were great touchdowns. See, they were like some like a toe tapping. And don't touch down. It's great.

Yeah, most kickers are better between 40 and 49 are like, looks like 75%. Yeah, that sounds about right. Nick Volk He's like these we can use them this year. Oh, Nah, get the young guys in. Get that traffic. Go do it. Ever go for on fourth down. Don't ever try to get that. The thing that pisses me off about the pictures this year, the most is the fact that they don't ever try to get the thing that piss me off about the pictures this year. The most is the fact that they don't ever try to fucking get that score right before half. It just

is it every fucking time you scum. Hey, yeah, it's one thing to be bad. It's another would be boring and conservative bad. Yeah, like, like, just try it. Just try it. It's so bad. We're not even going to try. Yeah. Throw an airception. I don't give a shit. Dude, he gets fine. I'm not going to get mad if you turn the ball over. Let's just do something not boring. Well, that's bullshit. Let him join this year. I think it's

it says much fun to watch as I've had in a while because they're so bad that it's like entertaining. Fair enough. Um, do, did you wait? Did you, you done to Andy? You still got more. Yeah. No, I'm, I'm good. All right.

Uh, you guys want to do fantasy week 10, 2000. Oh, yeah. We should. Oh, yeah. It's getting update there. All right. Um, so Andy, not so hot this week. Big Ben, who had zero points, nice. LT zero points. Okay, the biweek. That's fine. Get on the white.

Are they injured? Big Ben may be injured. I don't know. I haven't had any deep dive, but you got Steve Smith, 3.4 points, Randy Moss, 14.7. Yeah, I think the chargers are on a bike because Antonio Gates zero points. Okay, that's fine. Get these out of the way. The Broncos defense 16 points pretty good. Jason Eelum 11 points for a total of 45.1 points for the week. Oh, that's a great Andy. Yeah, that's burger only starts 12 games this season. Yeah, it's Charlie the batch game. We should have fucking drafted Charlie the batch. Yeah, I should have feed it to Tom and Attics, maybe.

Two or 46 yards and one touchdown in two games. It's pretty good. I'm not sure if you're going to be a good guy. I'm not sure if you're going to be a good guy. I'm not sure if you're going to be a good guy. I'm not sure if you're going to be a good guy. I'm not sure if you're going to be a good guy. I'm not sure if you're going to be a good guy. I'm not sure if you're going to be a good guy. I'm not sure if you're going to be a good guy. I'm not sure if you're going to be a good guy.

I'm not sure if you're going to be a good guy. I'm not sure if you're going to be a good guy. I'm not sure if you're going to be a good guy. I'm not sure if you're going to be a good guy. I'm not sure if from the team, so he gets zero. Who's that? Tio. That's David Tio. You fucking asshole. You picked up...

Did you get from the Diva? Did you pick up Crunch's Tio? No, no. Crunch's in the driveway Tio. It's the worst one. Oh, only fairly pay the points. You get for those crunches. A big whopping 0.0.

Oh. You got Reggie Wayne 15.2. Tony Gonzalez 8.1 Ravens 1. Banderjerk 7 points for a total of a trash manager. Nice. Dude, That's pretty good. I'll take that. Yeah. And then we got Steve, Mike Bick, 26.9.

Pretty small. Yeah. Pretty small injured. So 0.0 on that. Marvin Harrison, 16.8. Deonon branch 8.2 Dallas Clark 7.8 Steelers defense six points and you got Benetier with nine points for total of 74.7 so this week Greg won and for the course. Greg's is going to win because he's got Sean Alexander. Hell yeah. Just Cheekos literally. Yeah. And he's got pay. And so we have a total for the year of Greg with 440.2 points. Andy not too far behind with 30 392.5. And then Steve has 350.3.

And Andy's starting to ban Rothas Berger every week. Yeah. And 0. I mean, you have T.O. So I mean, you all have someone injured for the C-T-O, dude. Oops. Yeah, so yeah. You got Rothas Berger. You have Greg Gotio and Steve's got Bruce Thomas. Oops. Yeah. So yeah, you got Rob this burger.

You have Greg Fattio and Steve Scott. Bruce Thomas. Joey Harrington this week, 21 of 31 for 231 and three touchdowns. No picks. Wow. Legend. I don't even know if I would have ever said Joey Harrington had a game like that. Hmm.

Chris Sims, 15 of 29, 279 and three touchdowns, no picks. Chris Sims, good for him. You guys want to take up a tree replacements? Try to see if it's a spice thing's up. I'm looking at players on the list right now, so I might be cheating. players on the list right now. So I might be cheating. Right. I'd be right for a cheat. Right. And we'll just say Greg doesn't go. We'll just dock you for that right there.

Oh, I got for. You want to go for. You probably could get us. He's on the waiver wire. So Yeah, the decent season. Let me get Ashley. Lily. He throw the bunch of.

Yeah, you're not going to actually. Why Loughley. He throw the bunch of the A you're not getting Ashley Loughley. Why? Because you're looking at the stats right now. No, I'm looking at one week. Dude, he was the 18th receiver this week. I trust you. Steve, what do you want? I want Michael Frank. I think he's already taken by Steve.

You're not on trade. You're talking trades. You're going to have Ben Rossaburger. Steve, you're going to keep him this year. Your next year. Is this a nine-nighter? It should be. I'm just trying to think of a good running back. Running back is the hardest one. It looks like a horse. We have fun running back. All right, I'm gonna go with Ricky Williams

just because I know you played. That's good. Good guess. I don't like that 10 shake. He's had no. He's playing carries of Ronnie Brown. So I don't think it goes. Yeah. And he just had 11 rushers for 13 yards in this game. Oh, she is. I'll stop. I'll stop. I'll stop. I'll stop. I'll stop. I'll stop.

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I'm worried. He could just redraft a million years getting points to make everyone stand a redraft for an interplayer. Yeah. I mean, you just got to do that. That's in count. I don't think Greg one. Yeah.

So I can run this whatever way I want. Greg. If someone gets Indra Greg, then you can get a replacement. Yeah, I'm just not aware. I'll just ride Alexander the whole fucking way. I'll go 33 carries this week. 33 carries of $65 and $3 touchdowns. That's crazy.

That will never happen again in the NFL. No. All right. Who do you want, Andy? Who do you want to replace Big Ben? I don't know. Give me a list. Give me a list.

Guests for rot. Think about it. Bryce. Drew breeze. Oh, yeah. He's in the sleep, right? Mm-hmm. Thanks. Yeah, all right. fuck it. It's true breeze.

Well, he's on a buy this week, right? Yeah, he's on a buy this week. With everybody else. Let's see. Yeah, fuck it. True breeze. He's just going to ride the San Diego charges. Yeah, I think they're pretty good there. You're right? They went in seven, right? We'll find out.

Let me get Jimmy Garoppolo. Did he was so bad, dude. Jimmy got benched, unreal. That whole team is so sad. Did I? Should we rehire? McDaniels? No. Sure.

Yes. Going to be some Assistant to the Regional manager I also grow dollars Is a good offense coordinator. I thought you would be very against them Greg really no, I think McDonald's great He's better than Billy Billy out I mean based on what he did with Mac, the year he had him, yeah. That's the best Mac has looked.

They had an offensive, like better offensive line that year. I think that's what we're going to do. Yeah, they're on the same screen. They can't get worse than we were currently at, guys. You know, do you think it's a offensive coordinators fault? No, but fuck it. I think it can get a lot worse. More than the married. Look at the fucking browns. They can get a lot worse than where it is right now.

Hey, the browser to winning games though. Yeah, but finally, I mean, they were fucking their value was deep. I mean, they're winning games without a quarterback. Right. They mortgage the house for thehan Watson. He's soft. He's ridiculous. And he's been cleared to play and he's just not playing. Yeah, Russian. I don't don't feel like it. If I is, it's going to try to scare and teed. Why not? He's going to be in a massage. Oh, my a bad guy. I'm not a bad guy. I'm not a bad guy.

I'm not a bad guy. I'm not a bad guy. I'm not a bad guy. I'm not a bad guy. I'm not a bad guy. I'm not a bad guy. I'm not a bad guy. I'm not a bad guy.

I'm not a bad guy. I'm not a bad guy. Yeah, at least a good brother wishes you that, you know. Doesn't count if it's all the day. I have no idea his next. It's the Saints. The Saints, ooh. Interconference. Interconference, yeah. I guess I'm going to be a dollar, if this is a year before back. No, the Saints.

Is it a... Brox? Oh god damn, I really love it. Oh god damn. Oh Love the devil The leading russia Antoine Smith I know he played on New Orleans also Dante, Dante Stallworth and Azahir Hakim. Oh, wow.

Azahir Hakim. Holy. So warm. That's him. Oh, boy, this is going to be a game, I think. Yeah, this team's sweet. They are. I love it.

Yeah, Joe Horn. All right. So we have to afford you next week. Yeah. Some names you remember. And maybe the Patreot can actually put a couple of wins together. We'll see. We'll find out next week. On the Patriots Dynasty podcast. Turn in next week to see how much of a blubbering little bitch, Greg, you on the page of its day and see podcast. Stealing.