Patriots Dynasty Podcast - 2005 Week 11: Patriots vs Saints

Episode Date: November 21, 2024

Welcome back to the Patriots Dynasty Podcast, where we dive into the glory days of the New England Patriots, even if it means enduring some questionable humor from the Brown brothers. This week, we revisit a 2005 game against the New Orleans Saints, where the Patriots managed to scrape together a win despite a roster that looked like it was pieced together from a clearance bin. Spoiler alert: injuries abound, and the commentary is surprisingly decent, which is a rare treat for us!**Chapters:**1. **Intro and Family Dynamics** (0:00)2. **Patriots' Current Season Overview** (3:30)3. **2005 Game Context: Saints' Struggles** (10:00)4. **Game Highlights and Key Players** (15:45)5. **Injuries and Roster Issues** (25:00)6. **Commentary and Referee Insights** (35:00)7. **Best and Worst Moments** (45:00)8. **Looking Ahead: Next Episode Preview** (55:00)Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/patriots-dynasty-podcast. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

This is Christine Brown, and while I have to listen to this podcast as my motherly duty, you have the choice not to. My sons sometimes say some naughty things when they're trying to be funny, but really, they're just being stupid. You still want to listen? Go right ahead. I am not your mother. Welcome back to the Pages of Dynasty podcast. I'm your host Andy Brown. We are here with

the Brothers Brown as well. Steve Brown, how you doing? What podcast is this again? Right. It's been so long since we recorded. I think I butchered the intro too. We are the only podcast watcher rewatching all the games of the Patriots dynasty era or in 2005, but it has been quite some time So yes, Steve, I don't know if you remember but the Patriots used to be good And so we're going back and watching all those games And by we I do remember yeah Greg is also here. Hey, you know Greg Brown

Hey Andy. How are you? You're saying we're not good anymore? I'm saying there's a stark difference between the product on the field now and the product on the field before. Are you on the Drake-May bandwagon? Sure. Yes, he looks like he is.

For posterity's sake, it is what week eight nine 2024 halloween halloween was yesterday halloween was yesterday. How many trick or treaters did you guys get protocol? Yes, how many games do we win this year what was your runner wasn't it four two and six currently Coming off a big win. Well, yeah, what's the schedule ruining the, the jets playoff hopes. Oh, nice. I don't even need a little bit of a run in. I'm saying five wins. Okay.

Steve over under five wins. I'll go under. Yeah. All right. I'll go over then. They win out rest of the season, make the playoffs. I like what I see though drake may is showing promise hopefully this doesn't come back to bite me in the ass this comment but he looks pretty good you know who doesn't look good josh allen josh allen and ryan tanner

ryan tanner hill hannah hill does look good. He's even playing anymore. God. Speaking of not looking good, this week, where 2005 week 11, the Patriots are hosting the New Orleans Saints who are going through some turmoil back in 2005

because this is the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina. And they are playing their entire season on the road. I think their quote unquote home games are in the LSU stadium, something like that. We got four games at LSU, three games in San Antonio and one game in New York. That's right.

And so coming into this game, there is actually a lot of strife around the owner of the Saints because he has been kind of... Slurring. Yeah. Kind of putting out some feelers about not staying in New Orleans and maybe moving to San Antonio and all of these sorts of things. And I actually found an ESPN page two article about it written by none other than Skip Bayless.

Oh, wait, he can write. He could back in the day. He has some, uh, choice quotes that I give you. So my get well wish for Louisiana as let it rain diamonds as it might be is that Benson somehow will be shamed into selling the Saints to someone with the savvy instability to turn them back into the pride of New Orleans. For now you can buy only laughing stock in his ain'ts. Laughing stock. What a pun. Yeah. I guess a little more blunt. Bodies were still floating in the flooded streets

when Benson was dancing with San Antonio officials. Benson strongly suggested he wanted to make San Antonio the Saints permanent home. Yes, it's possible he was merely trying to one soccer San Antonians into filling the Alamo dome for the three home games the Saints are playing there while two creating leverage to negotiate a much sweeter deal with the Superdome. Some strong word. Why are you still floating in the streets dude? Yeah, that first one was not spicy enough for the skip bales. I know that second one, that was too spicy.

That was too spicy, I think, skip bales. Yeah. And then the last one. We are what? Seven, six months? Five months removed from Katrina, right? So yeah, so Katrina happens April 2005 mm-hmm season starts in September right and George Bush doesn't care about black people August 20 August 2005. Sorry is Katrina Yeah, so they they think they're gonna play the season and then boom Katrina, and then they got to figure out what they're doing. Obviously. You can't use the superdome, right?

But apparently Benson's lease was coming up on the stadium. So he was already playing footsies with San Antonio before this. Any of this happened. Exactly. And he was like trying to play hard ball with the city. And owners always play footsie, you know, I can't blame her for that. But the week before this, you don't blame it for that. But the week before this you don't blame on Steve like before Katrina, no, I'm just saying in general like all these owners like threatening to move teams as like a bargaining chip

Depends on how much money they're asking from the community to build the stadium, you know, that's usually 100% Steve. That's how it always goes They don't want to pay if an owner was like, Hey, I got my money. I want to build my stadium over in this other city where I think I can make more money, I'm going to sell fun, the stadium. Then it's like, all right. Yeah, but that's not what happens. I know. Almost never.

I'm just like at the bills. How much did they flee? That's a buffalo out of. I imagine moving the team out of Buffalo though I mean, that's what it is I know I mean it would work. That's the problem, right? Yeah, if they went to Austin like for sure financially it would be an okay decision It's just so I don't like going away from from New Orleans to San Antonio does that though?

Right, San Antonio is not that big of a city. I think it's pretty big. Yeah. Probably bigger than New Orleans. Big enough. Yeah. Texas is massive. Back then though, back in 2005, yeah, maybe much different.

New Orleans, like it's a big city. It's long-term San Antonio. If it's big, it's only big kind of recently. Yeah. And San Antonio is what? Like the fourth biggest city in Texas? Fifth? That was third, but I don't know. I could be fact-checked on that. Hopefully, we had a little fact-checker on this podcast. If only. Tim. Yeah. I blame Tim for not being here. But yeah, they were like, CNM was reporting that the Superdome like might

have to be demolished. They were like, this is not going to be like a situation where they can recover this. There was like the first game of the season, Tom Benson, the owner shows up at, uh, Baton Rouge, cause they're at the LSU stadium and he leaves early and then like sends a letter to, uh, Paul Tagliabue being like i'm not going to any more home games because the fans are making it unsafe for me and my family like this was like political dynamite at the time right and then he even the week before this patriots game he like

attacked a cameraman for some, an article that had been written about him or something like that by the reporter. Yeah. And so he got into like borderline fisticuffs with them. Yeah, it's kind of crazy that it worked out that they stayed. I mean, usually these situations where you're like, morally this city needs a break and like financially, it's probably not the right call usually the finance

stuff like always takes precedence so it's kind of like heartwarming to like think that in this case like the the moral case won out right but like skip bayless is the reason the same thing he shamed him shame tom benz maybe yeah you know so how much was this like that how much did Saints are Shame Tom Benson So how much was this like that how much did it cost to repair the super bowl because of the Superdome so that's what they did right? They just repaired the superdome. I don't actually remember any of this them threatened to move We know that much. Yeah But they still use it to like shelter tons of people during the hurricane Yeah, 550 million over. It looks like many years.

FEMA, FEMA gave them 115 million. Interesting. It's probably cause I use it so much in the, in the recovery effort, you know? Yeah. That's why like that's that place was, was huge for all of that. Yeah. So then, right. So Katrina happens. They're like, oh yeah, he's either going to sell the team.

I think Paul Tagliabue was like the driving force behind it staying. Cause he appears to be in the camp of like, we need to leave the team here. And then by January, it sounds like they did like a temporary extension on this, like opt out clause for the lease on the, on the dome. And then they get drew breeze the very next off season. You have the Steve Gleason block pun on Monday night football. The real playoff for the first time in forever. And then they go to the NFC championship game and then the drew breeze era

happens. And it's like, we ain't fucking going nowhere now. You know, like that really is the turning point of this whole franchise is Katrina slash Drew Brees immediately after. All right. Now you're a whole new team. Right. And now they'll never move anywhere. Same thing like moving the team out of Buffalo, right? They'll just be in the city. Super upsetting. I just looked up the population by the way

New Orleans was like two hundred thousand larger one point four to one point two. Okay, so it's about the same Also after this 2005 season being 2006 the St. Tyre Sean Payton I got rid, finger print of Jim Haslett, which good decision. Good decisions from ownership there. I mean, all said Tom Mence did a good job. I mean, he leaves the team in the city. He fucking hires Sean Payton and, and, and signs drew Brees all in one office. Who was the, who was the GM that like made the drew Brees signing?

Cause that's like a key. Cause he was at the chargers, right? Yeah. Yeah. He was, they traded for my thought. General manager, Mickey Loomis. It was who it was. He was a free agent.

I have a bunch of notes on the Drew Brees situation because it's fucking hilarious. All right. I mean, let's do that now before we get into this game. Yeah. All right. Because I was like, you kind of, you know, you like think back and be like, yeah, I knew the Phil Rivers thing was a thing. And then you remember like, the Dolphins were like in the sweepstakes for Drew Brees. So I wanted to look at the details and what was it actually like, right? So Brees, he gets drafted in 01 and he had three years of like, meh. They're not really playing winning football. He got benched in one of these years, replaced by Doug Flutie.

You remember that? Nice. Yeah. Doug Flutie on the chargers? That's like a perfect... The jersey must have been so sick. Uh huh. Right. And then so then in 03 after the 03 season, they draft Philip Rivers with I think like

the fourth overall, there was that weird shit with like the Eli Manning. Oh, yeah. Like one and so they end up with Philip Rivers. He's the future of the franchise. He holds out for his contract because they were still doing that back then. So misses training camp. And then Drew Brees has his like career year, breakout year. That's right. Makes the playoffs. They're like 12 and four. He, you know, great stats, 27 touchdown, seven picks, 30, 20 yards. So they're like, alright We're gonna stick with breeze and then he has another year where he's like

Still good. There were nine and seven didn't make the playoffs, but his stats are really good. And then the week 17 He gets that shoulder injury, right? So he fucks his shoulder and now he's a free agent. So they offer him like This kind of wonky contract where it's like super incentive loaded. There's only 2 million guaranteed for the first year. And he's like, nah, fuck that. Right. So he starts looking out in the market and the dolphins are interested.

I remember. And the dolphins are looking at both him and Dante Culpepper who's coming off like a season ending knee injury Right, so they have their doctor go in there and take a look and be like, yeah. These two guys are both injury He's of the opinion that Drew Brees might not even ever play again Dante Culpepper is the lesser of the two like injury risks. Really? So they signed Cole Pepper. Whoops. And the actually wrote in my note, Andy.

Whoops. So I went through the stats of Cole Pepper on the Dolphins and Breeze on the Saints just to compare some basic numbers of how their careers went on their respective teams Sounds good So drew breeze ended up playing 228 games For the Saints that's kind of a lot. I take cold pepper played for Or games Drew breeze through for 68,010 yards.

Dante Culpepper threw for 929. Four games? That's not bad. Four games, not bad. Drew Brees had 142 wins and Culpepper had one win. And Brees had 491 touchdowns and Dante Culpepper had two Yeah, but what about the rushing yards Greg everyone knows don't take help a dual threat and This season was cut short because he had to get knee surgery on the knee He never played again, that's he got he never he never played for the Dolphins again

He got benched by saving because that was saving there. Oh, the ownership got pissed to save. And that's the reason Saban left to go to Alabama. It's because he was all pissed about the whole Drew Brees, Culpepper, yada, yada, yada. So the, you know, a butterfly flaps his wings, right? And now you have Drew Brees in New Orleans. And Sean Bait, yep. And now it's Nick Saban in Alabama. And then the Dolphins are stuck holding the bag. Right. Wait, who was the Dolphins owner at the time? Because you know he was, he made that call. You know they got investors. This is the one you're signing, you know? Yeah. Yeah. That feels like that way. Probably sell their owner they have now because that's how it all is. Wayne Hazinga? Yeah. Never. I think the dolphins sold that to like.

Because that doesn't sound right. Let's see. Someone else, right? Oh, yeah. Steven Ross now. Yeah, there you go. When did he take over? I wonder. Yeah, there you go. When did he take over? I wonder. 2009, 1.1B. So you can still fuck up, miss out on Drew Brees, piss off Nick Saban to go back to Alabama and still sell your NFL franchise a couple years later for $1.1 billion. Must be nice. Must be nice. It must be nice. But people think all the chargers must regret letting Breeze walk, right?

And it's like, eh, you got Phil Rivers out of it. Probably rather true Breeze. But I think the Dolphins are the real loser in this. So I wonder, is the doctor who tested both of those guys, is he still working in the NFL? Is he the guy that was on the Chargers when they accidentally put a Neil in the heart of their starting quarterback? Who was that? I actually heard that it was Bill Belichick, the doctor. He dressed up. That's where the cutoff sleeves thing came from, from the scrubs, dude. He cut off the scrubs and went in there and examined both guys and gave the Dolphins the

wrong info. That was actually Stephen Belichick. I don't think they're related though. Dr. Belichick to you. So before Drew Brees in this 2005 season and before Sean Payton, we have Jim Haslett in his sixth year. And the starting quarterback is Aaron Brooks, who I believe didn't we have an Aaron Brooks jersey at one point? I think there was one kicking. I think it was an Aaron Brooks Raiders jersey.

I think Craig did, yeah. Raiders? Maybe. You played in the Raiders? Did he? He thought it was a white Saints it was an Aaron Brooks Raiders jersey. I think Craig did. Yeah. Raiders. Maybe. He played in the Raiders? Did he? He thought it was a white St. Jersey that looked like a Raiders jersey. But yeah, he, I just want to give you a quick quote about the two of them from that page two, Skip Bayless article. It says, Hazlitt's team has always had playoff quality talent that underachieves. And that has a lot to do with the quarterback Hazlitt chose.

The NFL's biggest QBTs, Brooks. Terrific athlete, rocket arm, very little idea how to win games. Aaron often looks as if he's in a Mel Brooks movie. Signature play. Nice! Last season, Brooks got disoriented and threw a quote forward path to a lineman who was behind him. That sums up Benson's Saints. It was like a laughing stock team before Breeze got there.

Yeah, a little bit. Like the New Orleans Ains, right? Yeah, the paper bag thing too. There's a lot of famous photos of the Saints fans of paper bags on their heads Yeah, I think that was before this so this was kind of like they were mediocre Because their record on this year or like where do they end up there two and seven coming in this game I don't know where they ended up there two and thirteen. They're the worst team in the league They're the number one overall pay three and thirteen. Yeah three and thirteen with the Ricky Williams pick No, this is the number one overall pick. Three and 13, yeah. Three and 13. Wait, is this the Ricky Williams pick? No, this is the Phil Rivers pick.

Yeah. Wait, how do the, don't the, if the Saints get the number one pick, why are they signed Drew? Wait, what? Just ask me, they must have traded it away or something? I'll give you the draft. The Giants and the Chargers.

2006, they draft Reggie Bush, second overall. Not a big FC. 2006 they draft Reggie Bush second overall. Reggie Bush. Oh, second overall. So they were second worst. Yeah. Yeah. I was getting that. I was getting my teams mixed up. Fifth round draft pick, Rob Ninkovic. 2006. Really? In the Saints. Yeah. Interesting.

I know. So yeah, this 2005 team. I mean, they had Deuce McAllister, but he went down with a season ending injury like in the first few weeks of the season. So they're starting running back now is Antoine Smith in this game. Who's you know, the same old Antoine Smith kind of that plotting Um, who's, you know, the same old Antoine Smith kind of that plotting North South runner to be kind. Um, the commentator, the commentators are doing a lot of, uh, the Patriots are trying to make sure he goes sideways. Cause if he does, he's kind of fucked basically. Give me his stats.

Eleven carries 32 yards long of five. Yeah. 32 yards long of five. Yeah. But I mean, on the season, 650 yards, three touchdowns. How many carries? 166. So he averaged four yards a carry. Long as pretty good. I mean, for Angela Smith, too. Yeah, well doing 162 carries at that stage in his career as well. Right, exactly. Yeah. Because he's 33 at this point for which for running back is ancient.

And especially back then, I mean, the running backs carried the load. Right. Yeah, so I mean. 1,784 total carries in his career. Yeah, I think. This is his last season. Yeah, but he ran for over 100 yards the game before this. So, I mean, that's crazy thing about. Yeah. I mean, like me, so I was like 1650th carry.

You're saying, oh, you only got 32 yards for a long of five. But Aaron Brooks in this game broke the Saints touchdown pass record with 160. Really? Yeah. Set by Archie Manning. Wow. And he was like on a terrible team, right? Yeah. Oh yeah. Archie Manning was, yeah. He was like, I don't even know how you compare him to nowadays, but just like the only good player on a bad team sort of thing. Yeah, I'm looking at their, like, franchise history of win losses. It's 1967 is their first year.

They don't get double digit wins till 1987. So 20 years of single digit wins. Yeah. They were without a winning record. Okay. Absolute like miserable franchise. Yeah. They don't have a winning record for 20 years. Not winning because he said double digit.

Yeah. Which in the 16 game season. Well, yeah, I guess they don't have nine. You can be nine and seven. So no winning seasons. I imagine the bucking years probably look the same. But like nine and seven is not a great season, you know. You got to be like, once you get to 10, 11, 12, then you're like, all right, we're good.

Well, if you're a Saints fan, it it is back in those days. But yeah, I mean, Aaron Brooks, they also shared a stat too, where early in this game, he completed a pass to, I think it was Dante Stalwart actually, a future Patriot for 20 something yards. And they said it was the 30th straight game that he completed a pass for at least 25 yards, which was the longest active streak I don't know that seems like a pretty impressive feat especially back in the early 2000s being a 25 yard pass for 30 straight games and Donte, Joe Horn, Azakir. Azahir.

Yeah, so I mean, good, not great. And Joe Horn is coming off an injury. This is his first game back in a while and no run game. Well, actually, that's not true. They do have run game, but he. Aaron Brooks, like they said said is a bit of a tease like he has all the measurables but he's just not a guy who knows how to win games basically he's kind of that typical mediocre like gonna sit right in the middle of the pack sort of

quarterback on the other hand the Patri Patriots also struggling this 2005 season. This win here is the first time they've won back-to-back games this season. So they've been alternating wins and losses the entire season. There were five and four coming in, so now there are six and four. Finally making them, giving them an actual win streak of one. Which is kind of bananas because all the stats that they would show on this game were just like how many games Belichick had won

and how many games Brady has won. Like Brady is 18 and two at home, but both of those lost at home game this year, 2005. So he hadn't lost a home game until 2005. He's already lost two. Belichick again was already the Patriots winning his coach at this point. He's been coaching for four and a half seasons basically.

And that first season he won five games. So that's pretty impressive. And it just, I know we had been talking about it when we were doing this podcast earlier, but the amount of injuries on this team is something you don't even see anymore. I don't think if I told you, well, here's what they said they had, um, especially in the in the defensive backfield, they've had seven different players start at strong safety since Rodney Harrison went down and they have had, what do they say, 20 different defensive back combinations in 11 games. They're starting, I think they're starting safety at the moment. Michael Stone.

Have you ever heard of him? No, neither. Right. You know why? Cause he played one, two, oh, he didn't play in 2003. I don't know why. Played three seasons for Arizona with a missing year in the middle, this year for New England, and then a year in Houston after this. The only numbers he has are tackles, which is a defensive backer. Okay. And he had 46 tackles this year, which is more than the rest of his, um, the rest of any of his other seasons combined 2004, he had 18 for comparison and 10 years before that. So you're basically just like picking people up off the street at this point and plugging them in and hoping for the best.

Your best cornerback right now is a sound play Samuel Samuel, who we've talked about is a big hit or miss guy. This game was more misses than it was hits. He gave up a whole bunch of big plays. Pretty much every big play was because of him. Let's define best because Troy Brown plays defense this year. So like, he's the best. Yeah, Troy Brown is actually also injured right now. Yeah, but Troy Brown is the best year. So like Troy Brown also injured right now

Yeah, but Troy Brown is the best defensive back they have I think we can all agree on that Well, they have Yeah, Eugene Wilson still here In fact Eugene Wilson in a fitting end to this game Finishes seals the game off with an interception in the end zone as time expires. But actually a really good catch. On a Hail Mary though. No, it was from like the 2030 guidelines, I'm like that. It was, thanks for driving.

It was like 40 Andy, come on. But yeah, and Asante was in and out because he's a bit fragile and He's trying to jump a whole bunch of balls and kept missing and so they were all good completed for big gains and touchdowns and such Just sounds like you've soured on a Santa Samuel Uh, I just think he was hot or cold and I think he's not as good as he says he is on Twitter. Oh there we go the truth comes out. Andy doesn't like his own party so now he's spinning and trashing him on the pod. Yeah well I mean maybe he should be trashing other people from this time. So who's he trashing? Um he's trashing Belichick mainly and then anybody who reads Belichick. And on Twitter, he was trash and Belichick mainly and then anybody who reads the check.

No, did that hurt your feelings, Andy? No, definitely did. And he doesn't take kindly to his little boyfriend getting mean tweeted on Twitter. Okay, he's in there clapping back. Don't just don from a Patreon. Are you responding to him, Andy? No, I don't think I have. Have you tweeted at him as us? I don't think so, not yet. What happens if he finds out about this recording and then comes after you, Andy? That's fine.

Do you tweeted anybody with our account? Yeah, I tweeted everybody with our account. Yeah, how do you even know how to use Twitter, Greg? Come on. Our account is my account. Yeah, I treated everybody with our account. Yeah, how do you even know how to use Twitter Greg? Come on. Our account is my account. That's how Kevin Falk came on this podcast. Exactly. Yeah. I match Adam. And literally every other guest we've had on here has been through me tweeting at them. Usually it's nicely. We just need like a disclaimer when you tweet, you know, like these views do not reflect the views of the podcast as a whole. Nope, I am the podcast. So all right, fine. I don't care enough. Exactly. Go ahead. Tweet away. I will say going back

to the all the injuries you're talking about Andy I read Troy Brown's biography that you gave me oh yeah which awesome isn't it he remembers this season very fondly for like how like gritty everybody was oh I bet yeah so he's like I mean obviously as a tough season for him but he's like he loved the like the team feeling behind it all. Yeah. No, they're definitely just gutting it out right now. Um, cause even on offense, they're talking about the offensive line. They're starting two rookies on the left side. Um, Hoxstein is starting at center over whoever was there before it was injured out for the season. Brandon Gorn is starting a right tackle and they're hanging in there.

I think that's the wizardry of Dante's Garnechia as well, probably more than anything, but the offensive line is holding up. You've got Patrick Passe starting at running back because Corey Dillon's injured. So him and Heath Evans are splitting carries and actually doing okay. Like they're, I think they're averaging for something you're allowed to carry. Yeah, I've said it before. Patrick Pass is super under appreciated. He's actually, when you really watch him again, he's like, this guy's a fullback. He's right. He's actually, and then like he's catching screen passes and making them look like Kevin Falk. Like he's returning kids. Yeah. He's just, he's one of those guys. And same with Heath Evans. I think

the week before this, he had a career day against Sabins Dolphins, I think we talked about that whenever it was we recorded that but like two years ago He got yeah exactly he got released by the Dolphins and then went play against him and put up like his career best and Ran for almost 100 yards up like that, but they're all just like you Pacing it together. You could be picking a random game in the season. And I'd be like, Oh yeah, I share this one's next. Yeah.

You had no idea. No idea. No. Um, but like they're only wide receivers, Dion branch right now. Um, the second, the receiver opposite him is Andre Davis. Remember Andre Davis? Uh huh. Yeah. receiver opposite him is Andre Davis. Remember Andre Davis? Yeah, this might be his only touchdown catch of his Patriots career. And it was a 60 yard bomb, which would be super

impressive if they hadn't tried this exact play, I think seven other times that they missed on including two on the last drive. One probably should have been passive fairs, but it wasn't. But like they just could not connect with them except for this one because he was 20 hours open. He was so open. And try seven times. You hit one open.

There you go. Seven points. One point per deep ball. He's throwing. I guess. Yeah. And just so we touch on it. the Pages do win this game in 24 17. Um, then they're up.

I think it was 24 seven at one point before they kind of like started trying to run clock in the fourth quarter. Um, well yeah, this, it was just what, like he said, a gritting out sort of game, but a very typical pages game, like variable has a touchdown catch. Um, the branch, the brand has a touchdown catch, but it's off of like a hard play action from the two yard line sort of thing like that. Very stereotypical early two thousands patients touchdown play. watchability Andy. Uh. Probably two out of six. I'd say skip this one.

Yeah, watch the highlights highlights are good, but everything else is kind of it's a slog. Because you just like you don't even recognize the names but watch it for the. The Ben Watson highlights alone. Ben Watson basically carried this offense by himself, at least for the first like two, three quarters. Um, and he had some absolutely clutch catches on third and longs and fourth downs and just like, uh, he had the commentary saying that he has quote Shannon sharp type skills where he's able

to get down the field and get open and catch the bulls. Stone hands Watson? Right, yeah. Not in this game. Didn't drop anything. The stone hands actually came from Prisham Fourier in this game. Dropped an open touchdown and then dropped another pass that was I think a fair down pass that hit him in the hands.

I mean Watson ends up going to play for the Saints for a while, right? I believe he'd, yeah. I mean, Watson ends up going to play for the Saints for a while, right? I believe he'd, uh, yeah. And where does Fourier end up? He kind of bounces around a little bit. I just want to correct one of my previous statements. I misrepresented Troy Brown and I apologize deeply for that. I verified my information and he was actually talking about the 2006 team, the next team that he wrote like, he did not like this

Team. Oh really? Yes Like that you want there's they're sniffing their own farts. Oh really sniffing their own parts. Yeah Interesting what do you think he's talking about? Just You know because they'd won the Super Bowls, right? Yeah, but like certain players he's thinking about or like they changed a bunch of players It's brought in new ones and stuff. Hmm. It means for Brown's autobiography written by Mike Reese. So like they're not out here Putting out skip Bayless type content, you know, that's very true. Yeah. Yeah, very true two super nice guys talking football He's Troy's not gonna go on record me like all this guy's a real piece of shit, right? Very true. Yeah. Yeah. Very true. Two super nice guys talking football. He's, Troy's not going to go on record and be like, Oh, this guy's a real piece of shit.

Right. Not like a Santa. All right, Andy. Right. Yeah. Okay. No, he really hates Bill Belichick. Like straight up hates him. Or he loves Belichick and Parcells. He like especially loves Parcells. Who? Troy Brown. Yeah, no kidding That's the only guy he kind of dragged in that book was Pete Carroll. He did not like Pete Carroll interesting

Like he's an acquired taste Yeah, rah rah guy, you know, yeah. Yeah, you can see that not resonating with Troy who just wants to work hard Yeah, but like a college player Yeah, they definitely love that shit for sure. Hey, I mean it worked big girl Yeah, very successful NFL career. Yeah, Dan Campbell. He's kind of similar So one of the other things I think we could talk about this is that This was the game where the day before, I think it was, Bill Belichick's dad passed away.

That's right. And he basically didn't tell the team until after the game, just so that they wouldn't like have something to worry about or something to distract them from the game coming up, which is very Belichick wouldn't like have something to worry about or to, um, something to distract them from the game coming up, which is very bell check and probably what has gotten weirdly psychotic, honestly, a little bit. Yeah. Um, in a way that you kind of need to be, to be an NFL coach, probably. I don't know. I wouldn't tell my coworkers. No, that you're well, I

mean, I probably would show up at work, but yeah, I mean, I had to, I coworkers. No, that you're, well, I mean. I probably wouldn't show up at work, but. Yeah, I mean, you're also. I had to, I'd be like, nah, they don't need to know that shit. You're also not running the whole program either, are you? Oh well, Andy, shot's fired, first of all, fuck you. Second of all, I am very important at my job. Yeah, you know who you're talking to?

I'm a leader of men. Oh yeah? And young women. And job. Yeah. You know, you're talking to, I'm a leader of men. Oh, yeah. And young women and women. Yeah. That's the young women. Some of them which happen to be autistic, but that's fine. Maybe I'm a little autistic. And let's not let's not talk about Steve that way. He's right here. What's wrong with being autistic? Yeah. I think we're all a little bit autistic. All sorts of women, not just young women, Greg. I don't know why you had to call out their age. Isn't that a not very good leadership? Yeah, that's ageist. Yeah. Do you write that into your job descriptions? Idiot. Belichick's dad, right? God, I'm into the whole military thing, right? Right.

I was thinking, would it be a Belichick wet and coach Navy? Hmm. What was the price? Cause you don't have to recruit. He'd be really bad recruiter, but maybe they do all the recruiting for you. Well, would he be bad recruiter? Wouldn't people want to go play for bill Belichick? Yeah. Successful coach.

He get it recruiting. Yeah. I think so. Just his name wouldn't be good at recruiting. Yeah. I think so. A lot of glad handing families and stuff though. He would be. That's true. He wouldn't need to. I actually, I think he, that was probably over underrated for him too.

I think he's pretty personable guy off of the outside of. He's doing better than I thought he would in this media stuff. Yeah. Tell me about it. What do you think? I like it. Yeah. What stuff. Yeah, tell me about it. What do you think? I like it. Yeah?

What stuff have you been watching of his? I mean, I saw him like do a couple of the Monday night spots with the Mannings. Yeah. I've seen bits and pieces of some of that other like NFL show he does. Yeah, I thought that was actually pretty good with the former players.

So it was a Chad Otrousenko and The Steelers defensive bag Ryan Clark. I like that. He's not scared to talk a little shit Yeah, cuz that's what I think is probably Brady's problem is he's very much like buttoned up and he's not gonna like Start beef with anybody, but well, he's not allowed to anymore Why not? Because he's the owner of the Raiders. It's in his contract. He's not allowed to talk badly about people from other franchises or the NFL itself. Yeah. Cause he's, cause he's a co-owner.

It's part of the contract that he has. What does talk badly mean though? Uh, I don't know. He, uh, I think it's like a despair. You're not allowed to disparage other teams or players or Personnel or something like that. I mean he hasn't been doing it anyways Well right now he's not allowed to so I literally haven't watched a single minute of Belichick or Brady Being commentating or like media

Belichick's been good Like even just watch the highlights because he has a YouTube channel too. With Andy, you're just biased though. No, it's actually you say Belichick is good. I'd be like, nah, probably not saying it. That's, that's, that's a different story. Everybody's actually saying Greg saying Tom Brady sucks at broadcasting. I don't believe that either.

I haven't heard enough. I have heard him. He was talking. What are you talking about? The Cowboys or something? I mean, he's fine. Right now he's not like offensively bad. It's just kind of bland. Right.

Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Yeah. The thing about the owner of the Falcons coming down to the field and the Superbowl. Oh, I didn't see that. Oh, I didn't see that. Oh, you didn't see that. What did he say? He was like, he was, he was doing one of the Monday night games that Falcons were playing.

And he was like kind of going hard at him, I think for like miss tackles or something. And then he was like talking about how the owner came down the field and he's like, and Maine was like, Oh, did you see that during the game? And he's like, well, see the way he dresses. It was kind of hard to miss it. You were this big, like, like a six piece suit right that night. Yeah, it was.

That's pretty good. I mean, it's not surprising that he's taking shots at the Falcons after they didn't hire him. That's true. That is true. Um, but speaking of commentators, Ooh, what do we got? Favorite, our favorite piece.

Uh, have you ever heard of Kim Ryan and Ron Pitts? I mean, I know Ron, it's for sure. Yeah. They were the commentators in this game. No good. They were actually quite good. Good. Okay.

Wow. This is are we turning a corner here? This is the first positive commentator take ever. Maybe he just needed like a couple of years off of listening to the commentators from the mid-2000s. Tim Ryan knew his shit. Like he was calling things out like even before they happened or as they happened. Noses flip. I don't know what his background is. I think he was probably a defender of some sort. Um, cause he definitely knew his defense and, uh, he was calling out like when

the saints ran like some stunt blitz and he's like, that's, that's a blitz that Belichick would run like that. That's a Belichick blitz right there. They just did on top. I think he played really. Yeah, he looked like a big, a big dude, square head sort of thing. So I thought I just assumed he was a player, but he knows his defense for sure. And Ron Pitz is actually pretty good as a play by play guy, too.

Different. Yeah, I was like Ron Pitz. Yeah, Ron Pitz was pretty good. No, no one. Yeah. Well, the beginning, right. He was not born in 1939. The good. No, though, what? Yeah, well, the beginning, right? He was not born in 1939. The guy you're talking about, right? All right. Yeah. Yeah. I was going to play for the Bears in the 90s.

Yeah. All right. That makes sense. Defensive tackle. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. He definitely knew all about defensive line play. He's pointing out that the saints in this game on like passing downs, we're lining up for defensive ends

as like the defensive line. There's nothing but defensive ends out there and just try to like beat the Patriots offensive line with speed. And then a dime look seven defensive backs behind that, which is an interesting way to get to Brady and actually worked in the second half. I'm reminiscent of the last game in 2007 that we're probably not going to talk about ever

again. That NASCAR front kind of you're seeing a prototype of it here. Who do you think's the best commentator in the game right now, Andy? Um, I haven't really watched much football this season, so I don't know. Um, like currently or overall currently. Um, I mean, how can I not say Tom Brady? Okay. I say Greg Olson.

I think Greg Olson's the best in the biz right now. Yeah. Very good things. What about, I actually cannot watch my home's games anymore because the, the sucking off that happens during those games is unbearable. Like I get it. Like the team's winning. And he's playing poorly.

Like, let's just all admit it, right? He has less touchdowns than interceptions. Yeah, he makes plays to win games, but the way they can like spin zone everything to be like, this is my home's, like the defense is winning these games, you know? And it's just like, it's so annoying hearing Chris Collins, or just like bend over backwards to try and compliment my homes when it's like, come on, man, come on. Do you think that other? Hold on, hold on. I've considered it.

You motherfucker, if a non-patriots fan ever listens to this podcast, they're going to be so mad about that whole speech right there because they just replaced my home with Brady. Exactly. That's where I had you think. I think the exact same thing about Brady. OK, I've of course, at least good, you know, a home is a piece of shit. Yeah, but Brady was never like this bad statistically. Brady never really had a down year, did he? Right.

And when the defense was running the team, I don't think the narrative was Brady so much. Right. Because he is still early. Yeah. Yeah. And it was Brady's coming on and he's, you know, he's not a great quarterback, but he's able to come through in the clutch at the end. Yes. He's keeping them in games on the way that blood cell was making mistakes and Brady's not making those same mistakes. Yeah. But I will concede that he did get a lot of

the same treatment, Brady, of like, he can do no wrong. You know, we come in with this preconceived notion and like whatever happens in the game fits our preconceived notion of Brady's great. He's amazing. He's like in control of everything when at times like he struggled like any other player, right? Oh, for sure. And it's okay to admit that, hey, he's having a bad game or he's playing poorly. Like you don't have to like fit everything into the narrative you came into the game with. Right. Are you done with your soapbox there, Greg? So hang on, hang on, hang on. We talking about a Saints game here. And maybe I'm not, maybe the Mahomes Brady comparison thing is getting under my skin and I'll admit that too. Yes it is.

I don't want to see him win more games and another Superbowl because I'll start to get a little nervous. I'll admit that. Fuck that guy. Are you less nervous now that he's not as good without the teams really good during the feed? Tom Brady was a good commentator. Would that make you feel better? No, I don't care about Tom Brady anymore.

So, hang on, can we just recap? I spoke positively about commentators, followed by Greg getting very angry at commentators. The fuck just happened. Andy, if you were watching football this year, you would be so angry. Oh yeah. I, yeah. That's what I understand.

Blood pressure spiking, they're seeing red. But at least I actually don't even watch if they're playing like a Monday night game, I don't watch it. Who the chiefs? Yeah. Yeah. I don't watch it either, but I don't watch most. I watch trash football, but yeah, I don't watch that. Like I watched the Jets Texans last night, the entire game. The whole game? The whole game. Game. Because I love football, Andy. I just love ball. Fair enough. I just love the Jets losing to the Patriots.

Just they're so sad and then like they get a little bit of glimmer of hope and they'll they'll probably build that hope up a bunch and then just smash it again and miss the playoffs again. And watching Rogers like have to like, look for someone to blame, but realize he's the one to blame. Yeah.

It's looking at everywhere. Side by side, be like, who, who can I fucking sigh at? Peyton Manning early, he was like, come on, Rogers, I'll'll show you buddy. Yeah, it warms my heart protection problems protection problems What else we have in this game anything good and Aaron Brooks he is The second cousin of Michael and Marcus Vic. Did you know that no? Interesting what is what a second cousin means? so like that means Mike Vic was what? His cousin's cousin. I think so. Yeah. Yeah, I can never remember that they like grow up in the same area together

That's a different second cousin than a second cousin that lives in Virginia country, yeah, probably that yeah Yeah, I think they went to Newport News. Isn't that the same town? Yeah. So yeah, that's interesting. Yeah. Also, another factoid I had, I just like saw was looking at the scores from the week and I was like, Ooh, the charges one big.

So I looked at Drew Brees, Drew Brees stat line from this week and he was 28 of 33 for 339 for touchdowns and no picks. I was like, Oh damn. Yeah. Start sniffing. That's yeah. That's his jam right there. Let's see how to Brady do 15 of 29 to 22.

Three touchdowns. Not too bad. 50% Three sacks. Yeah. Three touchdowns. Not too bad. 50%. Three sacks. Yeah. You also had a, you got Stripsack too by Will Smith. Getting jiggy with it.

Fresh Prince. Yeah. Dude was playing out of his mind. I think I actually remember the starting lineup figurines that we had. Remember the starting lineup? Yeah. I had one of Will Smith, weirdly. Really?

Yeah. Was Will Smith a thing by this point? Like the real Will Smith? I would imagine. It feels right, doesn't it? When Independence Day come out. I don't know. Probably.

Yeah, it's gotta be out by now. Will Smith is old. Also, I was thinking about this when you said at the the very boys came out 95 so I have to okay then definitely Yeah, yeah fresh prince was 1990 to 1996. What needs you said? The talk about gertrude and the and kanya west's moment on that right? Yeah He just takes over the mic from from michael meyers. I was the first i'd ever kanya west too he was obviously like somewhat big at that point, but like Yeah, that's he is as old as Tom Brady

That's true 2005 Kanye was in the media. How much Kanye has changed since then? He's fucking insane. Think about Will Smith how much he's changed He hasn't changed as much Think about Tom Brady how much he's changed. Not that much. Yeah. Yeah. Kanye has gone from, you know, just crazy to fucking insane.

I mean, yeah. That was our first real glimpse of it. That moment right there was the first ever like, wait, maybe Kanye is crazy. Hmm. That's true. That that moment right there was the first ever like, wait, maybe Kanye is crazy. Hmm. That's true. That was the first glimpse of into his psychopathy ever since. Yeah. Yeah. When did he do the where he took the mic from? Was it Taylor Swift or someone?

That would have been after. Was it after? I think so. Yeah, definitely. They're taking the mic from Michael Myers was George Bush doesn't care about black people. Yeah I'm like my his face is like what the fuck like where I say this is the best. Yeah 2009 we'll get into that but that they After the the response to that., for sure. Yeah. Yeah. He wasn't wrong.

And this might be a hot take, but I don't know that like, I really fault them that much. It was just like the government for like how they botched that. Yeah. They hadn't really had to deal with something like that. And like they were super slow To react and like made a bunch of poor decisions and the bureaucracy was out of control so they couldn't get anything done. But like It's almost like how do you prepare for something? If you haven't really done it, you know, yeah, you can say the same Right impetuous for fema to be started I don't know. There were a bunch of change. Yeah, there were a bunch of changes. I think Katrina is why they started FEMA, which is clearly way better at it. Unfortunately, that it keeps happening so much. No, FEMA was created in 1978. 1979. Nice.

Oops. Good stats, Steve. Nailed it. Let's Good stats, Steve. Nailed it. Let's pretend we didn't. If only it was 10 years earlier, that would be even better. Do you guys, when you look at these rosters, like look

for like people whose sons are playing now? Does Andy do that? Absolutely. I actually don't. He cross links it against some other database of football reference or whatever. So, Asante Samuel, his son's playing. Is he? Yeah, Asante Samuel Jr.

Pretty good. I don't remember who he got drafted by. Broncos, right? Was it? Yeah, that sounds right. No, that's Patrick Sertan. Patrick Sertan Jr. Yeah. That's right. And Antoine Winfield Marvin Harrison

Joey Porter No, he plays for the Chargers. That's right It's not a single junior Did you know that? You know van Jefferson's dad is Sean Jefferson Sean Jefferson. I didn't know that I didn't know that either. Yeah That's right. I remember. No shit. And then I thought that Joe Horn's kid was Jimmy Horn from Colorado. Yeah. That's why I disappointed. Yeah. Well, I had this whole thing written down of like,

kids players in the NFL and then the link to this game was completely bunk because it's not unrelated to Joe Horn. Yeah. I can't believe how much research Greg did, but you did have a lot of time to pull all these tasks together, Greg. Yeah, we had like six months to do this. It's been more than that. The goal, the Culpepper findings were rewarding. For sure.

So I will say one thing about Dante Salware in this game is that he actually had a pretty big game. He was basically matching up against Asante and like making Asante not look great. Let's see what he have. Six catches, 76 yards and two touchdowns. So I wonder since this 2005, if this is kind of the game that puts Stallworth on the radar for Belichick. To sign him in 2007 is that underrated part of that 2007 offense on the

other side of Randy Moss. Apparently he went to Philly in between. So he went, this is last year in New Orleans, he went to Philly. Yeah, this is his, yeah, they said this is his contract year. And I think he did okay and he got paid in Philly, but I don't know if he did, how well he did in Philly. It's 70 catches, four spotters this year. And then 38 for 725.

So he's kind of a big play guy, 20 yards a catch. Yeah, 19 yards a catch from Philly, five touchdowns. Didn't he have some... He gets close to a thousand years this year. Yeah, 900. Yeah, because it's like, it says... Yeah, he killed someone, right? Yeah, but it was like one of those weird things where somebody was just like walking on the highway at night or something like that and he hit the person and killed him. Yeah, I think it was like on a like all the way up an on ramp like where he was merging

onto the highway. Something like that. Yeah, it was like a real weird story where the initial thing was like Dante Howard killed somebody with his car and then like, yeah, the next thing was like, oh shit, it was the highway like, yeah, he. How was that person's job? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I've been drinking. I think, yeah, the man's water. Yeah.

How about your drill peppers, huh? Yeah. Hanging. Is that what it was? Yeah. Yeah. Like, has anything else come out about that or? I don't know. Yeah, it's been pretty quiet. I don't know. As? All right, should we do best and worst? Oh boy. I forgot about best and worst to be honest. So let me go last.

I go first. All right, how about this? I'll give you a referee thing first. The referees are fine, but there was one review where Patrick pass, uh, like late in the game, they just like handed it off to them and Will Smith of all people, um, tackle them down and like strip the ball out. But they were trying to figure out if, uh, Patrick pass it laying on the ground first before the ball came out. Um, and they reviewed it and the referee came back and said, after reviewing the play, the players buttocks on the ground

prior to the ball coming out. It was not a fumble, the page would retain the ball third and 10 or whatever it was. So it was just awesome hearing buttocks. And you probably saying- There's always one thing, the referees and the commentators. Yeah, right?

Well, I mean, the referees were just kind of like fine. Like, Andy, I have a question then there's, I forget which commentator it is, but there's always a commentator who's like, when they're talking about what counts as down as like two feet or shin or your butt, uh, your thoughts on that commentator line, do you love it? Do you hate it? Because separating you love this. I'm, I'm happy to hear anything about butts.

So you're a pro butts. Oh, for sure. Yeah. What if it's eye and Eagle saying it? Uh, I don't like the guy, but I mean, if he says butts, I'm in. I'm down. I'm down for the clip for sure. And, uh, I'm sorry.

I can't, what's that Jersey that we got you? Uh, fuck. I can't remember who it was for. It was a Cardinals jersey, I think. It was, yeah. A very old Cardinals jersey. Who was it for? I don't remember the name on the back. Greg, do you remember?

I don't remember, no. We got him this. I feel like you would have maybe found it. It was hard to find. You sure did. Yeah. For the commentator, I can't remember. Yeah, I don't know why you can't remember. He's in the I literally have I like.

Dick Buccus, I honestly can't remember. I can't remember either. I'm also blank. Come on bullshit. You are practically Googling because I actually have good radio right there. Yeah, that's fantastic God damn. I'm gonna skip my my best and worst. I'm gonna ask Andy who you voting for Are you pro-life or pro-choice yes And you, Greg?

Have you voted yet? Andy, sorry. I did. I voted today. Oh, okay. I vote. I'm going to vote tomorrow too. I might even vote on voting day.

It's the time of the year, Andy. We got to get out there and vote. Or so they tell me. Do you have any, uh, any signs out on your yard? I have political candidates. Should we, we should tell the fans, okay. You should spread the movement. We should, I think. Andy Brown, uh, interviewed by USA Today this week.

About the podcast, right? The USA Today that you've heard of actually. Yeah, no, I like the actual USA Today. Andy's starting a political movement. Yeah. That has nothing to do with politics. By making signs that say Andy Brown, not running for anything. I just like signs. And then- The town of Gostown is erupting. Yeah. No, they love it. I put one up and it's a

mean perfect for Facebook. And then somebody else yet. It really is. Yeah. Going wild. The boomers laugh until they soil their pants. Don't worry. They're wearing the pens. They soil their depends actually. Yeah. But yeah, not. Yeah. I thought it was funny. You were on local television. Yes. Talking about your sign. You got a big sign, a big flag.

Yep. Yep. And people, how many people bought your sign? Two. And you were one of them. But actually a bunch of people, a bunch of people bought stickers. So they're putting stickers and magnets on their car. Well, the sign was $30, which, you know, gave me pause, but you're my brother. So I actually don't make any money off of it. It's just like a drop shipping thing. And that's just how much it costs. That's $30 to get a fucking sign phrase. How much of these politicians spend?

Uh, less than that because they're buying in bulk, but it's still expensive. Yeah. So I have a sign down here in North Carolina, Andy Brown, not running for anything, just like signs. That's right. Yeah. And then I'm going to be on the news. Yeah. There's a big one too, up at the top of my street now that says, it's three foot by five foot. There's Andy Brown's, I like big signs and I cannot lie. It's three foot by five foot. There's Andy Brown's, uh, I like big signs and I cannot lie. You know, it's striking a chord because people are sick of getting all these

fucking text messages and getting reprimanded to vote and stuff like that. And just the amount of sign, I don't know, like, cause we're in a battle around say here in New Hampshire. Um, so every intersection has like 50 signs at it. And so I like the same shit over and over again. So like the same four people, but they all have like 20 signs each. It's like, you get the text messages too? Oh yeah. Constantly. Dude. I'm registered independent.

So I think I like I'm on all the lists. I get like 15 texts a day and they're all bizarre. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's banana. And they're so desperate too., from both sides. It's bananas. And they're so desperate too. They're like, I've asked you one, two, three, four times.

Please, will you give me $5 a day? Jesus, guys. No. Times are getting tough over there, huh? How much mail are you guys getting? Oh my God. I get a decent amount of mail. Yeah.

I get probably three or four pieces a day. That shit is expensive. Yeah. I'm not getting that much. That's probably more expensive than the science. We have not had anybody knocking on our door yet. No, I'm people knocking on my door too. I tell them that I already voted.

I'm going to vote again. Nice to use that joke. How does it go down? Yeah. I mean, they laugh, but they feel uncomfortable. That's perfect. Perfect. You know, they should be laughing or...

That's the way to go. Yeah. Yeah. A busy time of the year, that's how I say. Yep. Already voted. Plan on voting again. Busy time of the year.

That's got Mick Brown written all over it. Yeah. To be fair, so does the signs for that matter. Yeah, that be fair, so does the signs for that matter. Yeah, that's true. But I went up to the USA Today person wanted some pictures. So I went up to the top of the street to take some pictures of the signs.

And there was like flag waivers there. I'm like, just ignore me. I'm just taking a picture of my sign. And they're like, do you want me to like take your picture with the sign? I'm like, yeah, that'd be great. And they're like, oh, you know, what's your name? I'm like Andy Brown, like the sign, my side, like, wait, you're the Andy Brown.

Like, can we take, can we take pictures with you? How many hours have we put in this podcast? Right. No, it's never going to be like, you're the Andy Brown from the podcast. No, Maybe this podcast becomes famous because we have the Andy Brown. Yeah, you should drop it in the USA Today interview, Andy. Yeah, we're in the podcast. Sure. Did you see the sweater? Yeah. Oh, all right. Yeah. Yeah. Cause I do have a website. If you want to look at it, it's Andy Brown dot WTF. I'll tell you all. I'll tell you all you need to know about this. Which is like three things tell y'all you need to know about the science.

Which is like three things. You actually don't need to know much more than he likes science and he also likes big ones. Well I did give you boys a shout out in the website. Saw that. Yeah. It's exactly my approach to comedy is when Greg, Steve would just be sitting in the living room, minding his own fucking business, reading or well, probably not reading because there's no hell, but you know, just sitting there looking at a book. I used to be able to read.

And then Greg would come in and say, Hey, Steve, you want to know what the best part about wrestling is? And then as he would launch himself over the back of the chair to land on Steve, he would say only one person has to want to wrestle. True words never been spoken. Exactly. It's actually very profound. So that's my approach to comedy. Andy thought it was cool until it was happening in the bedroom we all shared together.

Then Andy was not as into the whole, it only takes one person wrestle when you're trying to sleep and only one person wants to wrestle and two people takes one person to wrestle when you're trying to sleep and only one person wants to wrestle and two people don't want to wrestle, then it's fucking annoying. It's like a politician trying to run a clean election, you know? You get dragged in the mud, you got to get in the mud, dude. You got to get mud. There's no other way. You can't not get up and start throwing it around. People has to want to wrestle in the mud. Absolutely. And you're both ending up wrestling in the mud. That's just how it goes. That might actually be Trump's kind of bring them down, baby. Bring them with you. You know who's really good

at wrestling in the mud, Greg? Dan Deardorff. Dan Deardorff. There it is. We found it. You know, offensive lineman, St. Louis Cardinals. Just all about all of them. Back in the day, you know, just three, three yards in a cloud of dust wrestling that much. All of fame commentator. All right. Anybody got Besson Weiris? No. Steve, I'll give you the best. Doing our podcast again, it's very, it's very fun. You're great. Entertaining to me me and that's all that really matters. That's right. Only one person has won a wrestle Yeah, exactly as long as one person thinks it's funny or as long as you think you're a good dancer

That makes it funny and you a good dancer I feel personal and the worst is probably You know you two having babies. So selfish. Steve, you're the one that can't podcast more than us. Yeah. Yeah. We're actually just sitting here after the child goes to bed being like, let's do something

and Steve's like, oh, I'm traveling again for work because my job is so important. Making me a special dinner because I'm traveling. That excutes goodness gracious, dude. She didn't make it. We went out for one. God. Special dinner. We're making a special podcast.

That's what you're talking about. Did you ever think in the back of your mind maybe he doesn't want to talk to me? No. Oh, he should have. If I did, I wouldn't care, Steve. Yeah, Steve, you don't have that kind of- That makes you a good dancer, Greg. Good job. Thanks. Good brother.

Oh, God. I'll give you some Besselware. I'll do them for everybody. Here we go. Here's the best and worst, Bill Bellatrix. The Saints tried to punt from inside the Patriots half early in the game. So they tried to take a delay game penalty to back themselves up to give them more room to punt. And Mail-O-Check declined it. So that was my best. My worst is that the punt landed at the 2, it was down at the 2.

So it kind of backfired. It was a good idea, but it didn't work. But then we can train onto that. Another best could be Tom Brady leading two 90 plus yard drives, touchdown drives. That one being the first one, they opened the game with a 98 yard touchdown drive. Pretty good. When you have one starting wide receiver and Ben Watson as your offense. And then there was a, or who was it? Oh, it was Richard Seymour at an absolutely fantastic face mask on a screenplay where he's getting blocked and the running back tries to run around him.

So he just reaches out and grabs the guy's face mask and pulls it down real quick Didn't get called because ref didn't see it. But because of that the ball bounced directly off the top of the running backs helmet For an incomplete pass top quality content. Oh, yeah. I got you top quality content Let's see, is there any worse? I mean we got my variable catch another is six touchdown pass of his career. That's your worst. And he's so positive. I'm looking for worse here.

Yeah. I mean, if he doesn't have the commentators to fall back on or even the referee, like he's grasping at straws right now. Yeah, no, there's the field. He changed our brother. Let's go with just Fox broadcasting in general. The Fox one is just not as good as, like just the whole like broadcast itself is not as good as like the AFC ones, the NBC or ABC. Wait, you don't like the robot?

Does the robot make you mad? No, just the rest of it. They're just like too much. So you like the robot. Oh yeah. I love the robot. Okay. Yeah.

Well, that's fine. Mom always complained about that thing. I know. That's why we tried to get it named Christine. Uh, when they had a fan voting contest for the name, we submitted Christine like a whole bunch of, well, I did a whole bunch of times. Remember that? Yeah.

I think it got named sletus, which sucks, but Christine was whole bunch of times. Yeah. I think it got named Sledis, which sucks, but Christine, if we got to name Christine, that'd be a thing. Oh man, that would've been sick. I should have called that robot face. Yeah. That's what it'd be called nowadays, wouldn't it? Oh, also, I don't know if it's the best of words, but Andre Davis, Ben LaFieldgall on his touchdown celebration dunk, he dunked it over the no more.

Yeah. Nope. It's like pencil. I had to like throw a rope over the other side to like, yeah, how long was the delay on that? Andy, that was on the prime time highlight. It was like 30 seconds. Like the guy, like the guy had done it before.

He was like, went out there, just like chucked a rope over, just pulled it back down. It was fine. That was on the cowboy. Yeah. He did a good job. So yeah, that's all I got. I mean, the worst is I think it's probably not recognizing any defensive players in the defensive backfield. Yeah. So no name crew and watching thought they just get burnt to crisp. Didn't feel great. But what do we have next week? Gentlemen, my next week, I mean the Patriots season point out for us because you know, what do we have next episode?

The Patriots look like they travel to Arrowhead stadium to play the Kansas City Chiefs. Craig Green. Craig Brown, are you going to, are you going to be upset if the, uh, announcers talk positively about Trent Green, about the Kansas City Chiefs starting quarterback or will you be okay? Why would I be sad about that? Oh, cause you are in current times. Oh, no, I got no problem with Trent Green. No. He's not fucking constantly fellated by everybody in current times. Oh, now I got a problem with Frank Green. No, OK, he's not fucking constantly filleted by everybody in NFL media.

I suppose that's true. Well, we'll find out what we probably playing better than my mom's playing right now to that. My no. Oh, I guess it will. I'll find out next time on the Patriots Dynasty podcast. They literally literally literally literally. That's right.

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