Patriots Dynasty Podcast - 2005 Week 15: Patriots vs Buccaneers

Episode Date: June 24, 2025

The 2005 Buccaneers had an all star cast of coaches, yet still couldn't compete with the likes of Brady and Belichick. Join all 3 Brown brothers as they summarize the game in exactly the way you thought they would. Commentator criticisms, name dropping, and failing to watch the game. Where else can you get such a varied breadth of information about a game nobody other than Tom Ashworth remembers?Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/patriots-dynasty-podcast. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

This is Christine Brown, and while I have to listen to this podcast as my motherly duty, you have the choice not to. My sons sometimes say some naughty things when they're trying to be funny, but really, they're just being stupid. You still want to listen? Go right ahead. I am not your mother. Welcome back to the Patriots' Dynasty podcast, the only podcast that's rewatching every game

of the dynasty era. Some of them are great old school Patriots games like the one we had last week against the bills. This week, Steve thoughts, was this a classic? Yes, this is a game with a name, right? I think we can give it a name, yeah. Yeah, do you think Julian Edelman's gonna make a podcast about this game?

Didn't he steal our idea? He did, yes, he stole the name game idea. Cause it was his podcast, the games with a name or something, I don't know. But yes, I think it is. Greg, do you wanna give us the name of this game? I didn't watch this game. In fact, I only figured out what game we were doing quite literally within the past five minutes.

Yeah, probably two and a half minutes. Classic, Greg. This is the Tom Ashworth touchdown game. That is correct. His one and only touchdown, I believe. Greg, fact check. That is correct. Yeah. I know is actually know this for sure that the one and only touchdown, I believe. Greg fact check. That is correct. Yeah, I know is actually know this for sure.

That the one and only touchdown because I had the poster hanging up in my cubicle. Oh, yes. That you made, Andy. Yes. Can you talk a little about that a little bit? Because I feel like you got you created something awesome and then the Internet just ripped you off a ton. Oh, yeah, they loved it.

Yeah, it was a poster it was an infographic of every receiver that caught a touchdown from Tom Brady organized by size so the bigger the player was the more touchdowns they had caught. So I believe if I remember correctly Gronk was number one by a wide margin. Number two was Jesus Christ. Two actually was element. Let's see. I have it right here. If you. Isn't there a website we can you you could is that website still thing? Oh yeah. You know what I'm saying. Tom Brady TDs or TBTDs.com. TBTDs. That's right. Tom Brady touchdowns.com. I had it here hanging in my cubicle and the way I hung it was the ones were kind of like eye level. Oh yeah.

Like the bottom of the poster was kind of like where my seat was. So I spent a lot of times there near the very ones, which is where the gold is in that thing. Ryan Izzo. Yeah. So I was Gronk with 105 touchdowns. Edelman with 41 is number two. Then Moss Welker and Evans for the Bucks. Turn out to be your top four there. Top five. But yeah, there are a lot of players on the.

Landon Roberts, Cam Cleland. Yeah, there's some names. Matthew Mulligan, never heard of him. Tyron, I believe, Matthew Mulligan. Michael O'Oamonawai. Did I do it right? I don't know, I can't picture that. Wait, I used to be able to do it

because it was a song. Oman was for sure, but I can't remember. Uh-oh, Manawanui. That's what it is. That sounds right. Uh-oh, Manawanui. Uh-oh, Monk. Okay, say it again? Uh-oh. I when we oh my now when we yeah There's some insane names levy on Bell. Yeah, it's 737 touchdown passes to 98 wide receivers 98 different receivers

They co keefed like cuz they work or kind of the buccaneers. Yeah bucks are on here too because you can play for them Yeah, but yeah, there's some Like, cause we're kind of the Buccaneers. Yeah. Bucks are on your jubes. You can play for them. Yeah. But yeah, there's some, uh, Brian Tim's on here. Anybody remember that touchdown? The Brian Tim's touchdown. Yeah. It's like a 60 yarder in Buffalo and I never caught another one. Larry centers.

Yeah. Terry blend one, one, one touchdown. Larry's was his first ever touchdown. Yeah. Never caught an R first of 737 and they only had one. But this graphic went famous. If you're on the Patriots Reddit, you've probably seen it. Yep. Posted every like three months or so. Do they? Oh yeah. They've written it for every other quarterback, like for every other player

too. Like there's a ton of different versions of this thing. Oh yeah. Well, I made a bunch of them. I made a whole website to make these infographics. So I just plugged in the numbers and I could just like, generate, play. I wanna hear this from your perspective though, Andy. When you made this, what'd you post it to social media and then saw other people ripping your work off,

how did that go? Yeah, I think I started posting it on Reddit even before Brady went to the Bucks and then when he actually retired I just posted like a the latest update version of it. I think on Twitter is where it kind of took off and then a whole bunch of you know bigger accounts came and just copied the image and threw it up on their own accounts as if it was theirs. And then like I think it was one of the CBS stations tried to make their own version but it was like completely unreadable because it was just like blue

and orange figures with the names, but they weren't like size correctly. So you couldn't actually read anybody underneath like halfway down. So, yeah, it's like this Monday night football. Maybe that's where it'll end up. It may be zany graphics. They do. Did you get like an increase in followers or like people interacting on the Patriots Twitter account or whatever?

Oh yeah. Yeah. A bunch of people jumped on it. And then I made posters out of it like you talked about Steve and nobody bought them. So I have a very large stack of posters. You have paid an exposure. You bought an inventory of them? Yeah. Nobody bought them. So I have a very large stack of posters. You have paid an exposure You bought an inventory of them. I yeah

Where are they in my storage space? Oh, yeah Full of posters and and the tubes to ship them into well, hopefully people who listens podcasts would be like, oh shit Let me go buy one. Yeah. You can go to a page. How much are they? I think it's 15 bucks all in. Well, it sounds like. A little rich for my blood. Yeah.

Literally a little rich for my blood. If we are your leverage, Andy, you said you have a shitload of me to sell. Sounds like a 10 bucks. That's rule number one. Well, that's, that's free shipping as well. It's just straight up 15 bucks. You get a poster. That's free shipping as well. It's just straight up 15 bucks. You get a poster. That's it.

We got to make them like the Louis Vuitton of posters, you know, his own for like 150 bucks. We'll make it a meme coin, Andy. How about that? All right. Yeah. There you go. Yeah.

It's on the on the Patriots dynasty shop, actually. All right. We have a shop. Yeah. Shop.pages.iancy.com. Of course. For those who are, me and Greg are learning about this right now. Literally, yeah.

Into our web browsers. As always. Well, I knew stuff was made because Andy gets to meet it for Christmas every year. Yeah. I just didn't realize this was... Yeah, if you want the hoodies or if you want, you know. Wait, are we putting this episode up on our OnlyFans? Uh, I haven't heard back yet, so maybe.

I wore this shirt just for that. Oh, did you? Uh-huh. Oh. Uh-huh. Do you want to describe it? Look at that. All I ended up talking about Christmas gifts, and this was one of his Christmas gifts. It's that Barstool clown nose on Roderick

Adele shirt, but with my face on it instead. Yes. But still the clown nose. And there's one with Greg as well and me. And you have one too. Yeah, we have a Christmas that you gave it to us. Is this Logos thing you Andy? Logos thing? Yeah, Pat's Unis? No, no, that's somebody else. Okay, it looks like your work. Does it? Very autistic, yeah. You can buy these shirts on this fucking shop? What the fuck?

Yeah, if you want a shirt with Steve Brown's ugly face on it, looking like the Roger Goodell. That's in the shop too. And everyone's gonna buy the Greg Brown with a half beard, no doubt. That thing is so stupid. Or you can buy one with all her faces on it. I might buy the Greg Brown with a half beard. That half beard is legendary. That half beard is rough. It's rough as fuck. That's nice to shop. Yeah if you go to patsdynasty.com, there's a shop button there. You can get to it from there. Speaking of the Pats Dynasty, we're talking about 2005 Week 15, if you didn't realize already, with our boy Tom Astroorth. Probably the highlight of this game, but this was actually a pretty good game all around,

I think, if you're a Pats fan. You had a struggling Pats team in 2005, mostly due to injury. Trying to go for the three-peat, but it's not looking great here. Pages coming into this game eight and five. Bucks coming in at nine and four and fighting for the lead in the NFC South with the Carolina Panthers,

who the Pages have seen in the Super Bowl a couple years ago. And this was a very solid Tampa Bay team. Especially defensively, well, defensively they were a top five team. Offensively, they were, they had Chris Sims as a quarterback, let's just say that. Right, Steve? Yeah, hadn't they won the Super or been in Super Bowl the year before? They know they've been in Super Bowl. I think it was 2000 Was that right or yeah, but anyway, definitely two hype teams like this was a big game Yeah, cuz this is a this is John Gruden coming back. They had the

Bucks had struggled recently, but he had come back I think they were 5 and 11 the year before and now they took them to 11-5 and winning the NFC South with an absolute stacked team of coaches, like assistant coaches. Really? On the Bucks? Yeah. You want to hear this? Yeah, let's hear it.

Defensive coordinator, Monte Kiven. Greg Brown, my gnome is the NC state head coach from the eighties. So probably not before he was born. Um, before Greg was a fan. Well, I mean anything before 2020 was before Ray was a fan. Um, but yeah, and then, um, offensive. Oh, he was also a long time DC, like in the NFL for a long, long time. Uh, Most of these bucks, but he was kind of like big deal. Yeah. And Lane Kiffin is his dad, son, one of the two.

And then offensive coordinator was Bill Muir, who was actually the page's offensive line coach when he started coaching. But the other notable assistants like, you know, on pro football reference, they have like other notable, notable, like this list was huge. And there was I don't know, Bill Muir. Come on. Can you give me some names? Okay. Jay Gruden was the offensive assistant who had coached in whatever they were at the time for six years. Rod Marinelli, who went to coach the Lions head coach from 06 to 08 badly. He won 10 games in three seasons.

Raheem Morris. That's three head coaches. Mike Tomlin, that's four head coaches. Kyle Shanahan, that's five head coaches. Joe Woods was a defensive coordinator for a long time. Paul Hackett was the Jetson Chiefs offensive coordinator. Oh, he's also the Nathaniel Hackett. Is he related to Nathaniel Hackett? He might actually be. Yeah, so he's the inside, you know, Jets. Yeah, bringing him down. You got Joe Barry, who was the most recent Packers defensive coordinator. Rich Bissaccia, I think,

I'm not very good with Italian, who actually took over this Raiders head coach position. So he was also head coach and went for seven and five with this team. And then also Joe Woods, who was defensive backs coach here, has actually been the defensive coordinator for the Broncos, Browns, and Seaths since 2017 until now. So yeah, a lot of big names. So five head coaches on one staff. That's pretty impressive.

Six, if you count Aaron Kroemer, who coached the 2012 Saints after Sean Payton was suspended for the year. And he became the interim coach because the other interim coach was also sort of suspended for the first six games. So then he was like third in line. Nice. So still counts though. So seven future head coaches, NFL head coaches

in the office. Well, how many times has Gruden count? How many times has Gruden count? Cause he had twice. I suppose that's true. Yeah. Well, he's the head coach of this team. Yeah, but then he gets fired. These goes broadcasting. It's actually fired. Yeah. He must come out, which we've just talked about on this podcast before we have. He leaves again. Yeah. And then maybe he comes back a third time. Maybe to coach the Raiders. Yeah, we'll see.

Imagine that. Yeah, John Green coach and the Raiders of Tom Brady as his owner. Sign me up. Should we go over the emails again? Again, Greg just likes the emails. He just likes the- The Morris Smith, the head of the players unions. He called them dumb Boris Smith. Nailed it.

Fucking hilarious. I love how Greg either knows this by memory or has a bookmarks that he was able to get to it. Yeah, what? Where did that come from? I mean, and those who join our OnlyFans and watch this episode will see that his son came and said good night during that whole coaches spiel. Yeah. He was just able to just like drop right in with the groudon. The boris. Just off the door. The Boris Smith. And said he had lips the size of Michelin tires. That seems problematic.

What do you think? This is a hit job though, right? What? The emails. We've already litigated this. Yeah, we've litigated this. Where did we land? We landed on a like, yeah.

It was a hit job, but he also deserved it. Yeah, it was a hit job, but he also deserved it. But he definitely said some stupid shit. He gave him the rope and then they hung with it. Yeah. I'd like to see your text exchanges from back in the day, Andy. Yeah. Well, that's also not my work email though. They're two very different things.

It's a good point. He's sending it to my work email. It's probably fairly clean. If he's sending it for, you know, fucking, uh, john.gruden at NFL.com, then you know, he kind of deserves wherever he gets a clueless anti-football pussy is the legendary one. That's the one. Yeah. All right.

Back to this game. Let's go. We ain't gotten out on this game yet. We should rename the podcast because that's where we are. Clueless anti-football pussies. I thought we were the big dick dummies. Well, a bit of everything. Depends on how you're looking at it. Hi Greg. Well, this one's for you. The coaching staff was definitely loaded. The defense was pretty loaded as well. You got Rondé Barber, Brian Kelly as the cornerbacks,

Simeon Rice as your defensive end who ended up with like 14 sacks a season, Shelton Corrells and Derek Brooks as your linebackers, and then as your defensive tackle you had one Booger McFarland. Booger. Booger. And interestingly enough, at this time, not the only booger in the NFL. He was one of two boogers. Have we talked about this?

I don't think so. No way. There's two boogers? See? Haven't talked about it. No way. We haven't talked about it. Booger, right, booger?

I don't think we've talked about this. There's another burger unless you're on a podcast that I was not On Greg and that seems very unlikely There's two yeah, Rashad Rashad Moore was the other one Wait, what and they both the both guys are named booger and they both play the same position Rashad more what do you mean? That was the other guy named booger in this game or in this in this season They're both named booger. It was booger McFarland's real name Anthony now, but the quote is

he goes by the name his mom gave him at the age of two a Nickname that has stuck for the last quarter century a moniker his family still uses to this day Quote I was a bad kid getting into a lot of wild stuff, McFarland said. I used to get called a lot of different things, but that was just the one that stuck. He eaten his boogers. From the age of two.

Yeah. He got called booger and that's stuck. From the age of two is because he's eating some boogers. I guess. You're gonna hear the most Reddit shit ever. I was just trying to look up the two booger thing cause I could have sworn I heard people talking about this. And it's the Raider sub Reddit, video of Aaron Rogers eating his boogers and

someone commenting, all jokes aside, eating your boogers smelling your fingers after scratching somewhere are all usually signs of an anxiety disorder, obsessive compulsive disorder. Thanks doc on Reddit. We can diagnose Aaron Rodgers as an ACD for picking his nose. Aaron Rodgers of all people too. I fucking hate Reddit. Well now you know how we feel about you, Greg. Aaron Rodgers, the least OCD person in the world. He just doesn't give a shit about anything. Right. He's not anxious.

Also on this team, the tail end of the Mike Ulstead era. He would retire after the 2006 season. So this is in Cadillac. Another good nickname. Yeah. So that was kind of their, don't watch all they had. One. One carry, two yards. Yeah. Kaleak or Alstott? He's the Bucks rushing touchdown leader with 58. And he's second in rushing yards while averaging 32.2 yards per game. So he's second all time on the Bucks in rushing yards with 32 yards a game.

That's like his best. Mike Alstott was so awesome. Yeah, he's amazing. Yeah. I saw this thing on the internet the other day, Yeah, he's amazing. Yeah, I saw the same being there the other day. Like, you know, goal line, one yard to go, who you got? I got Mike Alstott and I was like, yeah. Yeah, I mean, that's it.

Yeah, that's it. Yeah, I mean, yeah. Jerome Bettis, maybe? Like the fridge. Yeah, whatever. What did you say, Greg? The fridge. I don't know.

I didn't watch the fridge, so I don't know. Oh, he's very good at it. Kid doesn't know ball. Doesn't respect the history of the I don't know how he's a good at him. He doesn't know ball There's a history of the game different Eric. Greg. That was a different era. I'm taking tush push No new-age football. Yeah, Jalen hurts Jalen hurts from the way Honestly, probably the best complete that converted. Yeah Yeah, it's up there with the Brady Give me sneak. Yeah, well you couldn't do the Brady QB sneak when they knew it was coming.

They never knew it was coming. Well, they know the tush bush is coming. That's the point. Yeah. All right. Keep going. Thanks, Steve. All right. Let's talk about this game, Steve.

Yeah, let's get into it. I'm fucking excited to get into this game. Yeah. So the name 20 minutes in. So, yeah, the Patriots come out. And actually, this was in the era of when Belichick was, you know, deferring after winning the coin toss most of the time. But this time they came out elected to receive took the ball, drove straight down the field, 76 yards score touchdown. And that was the opening score. Steve

was your Tom Ashford touchdown as I'm saying This is part of the script for the game Yeah, and not only was it is not like he was lined up as a tight end or anything He was lined up as a fullback. Yeah and ran an actual route Hey made a nice catch on it too. He had good hands. Yeah, but I think they were saying My I wrote down here Tom Ashworth was actually tight end as a sophomore in college at Colorado. So he had a, um, yeah, he was known for hands before he became, I probably put on some bulk and became a tackle. So makes sense.

I mean, he couldn't have dropped that. He was harder to drop. I've seen fullbacks drop that. For sure. It's alignment too. It's a big spot for them. Yeah. He's not, he's not working receiving. This is one and only either attempt catch and touchdown. Have you ever like actually seen like lineman's gloves? They're basically almost like check boxing takes the ball, knows that they can, you know, push it on their defense, then has a surprise play for the goal line.

Right. Then you're up to seven, nothing, you know, and push it on their defense, then has a surprise play for the goal line. Then you're up seven nothing. And then they came out slinging it too. They were away. More genius by Belichick. Greg, here to comment? No, I have no comment on that. That was a good smart.

That was a smart play. It was a big game, nine and five versus nine and five. Their paths are on a little bit of a roll. They won their last two games. They've been blowing people out been kicking dicks You know take the ball up on easy first. We have a fucking crazy play in store Now we're up seven nothing and then like now we have control of the game also Remember how Brady was limping around all the week before because he got hurt

He was like running for first downs, but with a hobble So I guess yeah had a shin injury and was wearing a brace on that leg but they put him on the injury report with it and then he didn't even like come out for warmups. Brady didn't and so like the Bucks like yeah well we know it's gonna start but. Frenzy I bet. Yeah. Exactly yeah but and so it was just like there was no it was Balachek doing his typical Balachek

thing I'm sure of like is Brady gonna start or they going to have to put Flutie in? Is Flutie going to come out? Where's the best chance to win is going to be out there. Right. And Brady came out and just was slinging it just to start. Perfect. And then you're up 21-0 to start the fourth quarter and you know, do you take Brady out with the injury?

Yeah, it's fucking little enough. And so then you start again the whole, are the Patriots sending the NFL a message by not taking Brady out up 28-0? No, and then they're still running a QB sneak on fourth and one with three minutes left with an eight-yard talk. So hard the other way, you know? Brady's not going to play. Are the Patriots running up a score because they're leaving Brady in?

Right. It's going to be one or the other. So you do see Doug Flutie in this game, but only to take a knee at the end. I feel like we should maybe even start with this information, Andy, because I was listening to a podcast this week because I don't have a job and you and the Bills fan, I was looking for a podcast I had not been a part of. Actually, I was looking for that podcast you did by yourself. And I stumbled upon just you and that Bill's fan from Reddit. First of all, not nearly as good as us. Second

of all, no idea what the score of the game was. That's all right. I didn't know. Didn't matter. What the end result was. So we should probably, I feel like when we first started doing this, we're like, hell yeah, we should do that. Yeah. And then we never do.

I think it's a running joke at this point, Steve. So well, well done ruining that. It's a joke. It's just a gag, Steve. It's a bit, Steve. If you don't get that, then you don't understand comedy. I can do it. It's 28, nothing Patriots.

They, they whooped the shit out of the wagon. Jesus. Fucking ass. Shut them out. Wait, is that the actual score? That was the actual score. Twenty nothing. Yeah. Oh, yeah, I did watch this game.

Greg. Yeah. Now he doesn't have a job. He's just like he's got all these ideas. You can't shut him off. He's like this. I like the miserable Steve better. Oh, yeah. Get a job, you fucking hippie.

Just wait till I'm retired, Greg. Not good. We're still doing this when you're retired. At this rate we probably will have to be. We're gonna complete this fucking thing. We're retired, bro. Jesus Christ. We have so many more slogs to go.

Yeah, this was not a slog, but this was a great game. No, this was a great game. No, this is a great game. Yeah, Brady coming out, slinging out the pass or touchdown. And then this Bucks offense was absolute garbage. I mean, I would say no offense to Chris Sims, but he's kind of a dick now on TV. So I'm all offense for Chris.

They're not garbage. They're first in the NFL. In what? I was surprised that they. They're first in the NFL. In what? Yeah, I was surprised that they had nine wins watching just the offense. The defense. Yeah, the defense is top top. You're saying the offense is hot garbage. Chris Sims is very bad. He's the defense is the cyber truck of the NFL offenses. Looks like a dumpster and drives like one too. Andy, we can't make politics jokes on this. That wasn't political. That was car jokes, Greg. Have you seen one? It looks like a dumpster. And apparently it cracks if you throw Mardi Gras beads on the

windshield. They crack. Where'd you hear that? libcuck.com slash news. Not vote blue. slash news dot vote blue. One thing I didn't realize Chris Sims was a lefty speaking of dot blue. And he also hadn't thrown in a separate while because he just doesn't ever fucking throw the ball. You're a short career. Yeah, if you watch this game, you'd understand it. Although I don't know how much it was his fault necessarily. He got absolutely fucking hammered watch this game you'd understand it. Although I don't know how much of it was his fault necessarily. He got absolutely fucking hammered in this game.

But it was great hearing Fox commentators have to talk about a mediocre NFC quarterback against a Patriots defense because they get so hyped about it because they don't know much about the AFC stuff because they're always doing AFC games and they just didn't realize what sort of a buzz saw Chris Sims was walking into. But like how did they get to nine and how are they as good if it was Chris Sam spent all year like? No, so they started off with one of the Greasy's, Brian Greasy.

That's not much better than Chris. No, who was media. Five and one. He went not much better than Chris. No, who was medium. He went 5-1. He went 5-1? Yeah. So he started off pretty hot, and then he went down. Chris Sims was, I think he was a rookie, or it was really early in his career.

And kind of started off a little shaky, but then started to figure it out right around this time of the season. But pressure definitely affected him because they put up a stat that said, in his four wins he had been sacked twice and in his three losses he had been sacked 15 times. So it was definitely like a ground and pound sort of thing where Cadillac Williams was the, also a rookie, was the engine that made this team going. one rookie of the year and broke a thousand yards as a rookie running back and they also have Mike Olson out there and- Right.

Joey Galloway. Yeah. Basically like one run run run deep ball to Joey Galloway because Galloway also had 1200 yards and 10 touchdowns. In 2005, Joey Galloway had those numbers. That's crazy. Yeah. No, this was kind of like This is when Joey Galloway was still good. I think He's a comeback player of the year if Chris Sims hadn't gotten to media and been a voice

We'd be talking to him like he's my cloud, you know, like maybe yeah this fucking random Jets quarterback came in Well, I mean I think the fact that his father is Sims, he's never going to be like a nobody, you know? Yeah, exactly. He probably wouldn't even got that job in media if it wasn't for Phil. Absolutely not. He's good, though. I do like Chris Sims. Do you? Even his QB rankings. Andy, care to comment since you're the year-old.

Hot garbage. Qualiter. Go on. I think he's just one of those hot take manufacturers guys, like all of them are now. Yeah. You gotta listen to his, he does podcasts with not the dude from PFT and they like do like super in depth.

Not the dude from PFT? Yeah. Pro football talk. What's that guy? The nerdy one that everyone hates. Oh, yeah. They used to do a show on NBC together and it was terrible and it was hot take stuff. But then Chris Sim started his own podcast where they did like a bunch of in-depth, like previews of games and stuff like that, X's and O's and it's way, way better.

And there's so many of those though. Yeah, there is. So I'm just happy that when I had this game on and my variable gets his sack, Lauren happened to be standing there watching and I was like, Oh, that's our, that's our coach. Yeah. It didn't feel like I have a guy making that sack. That's our coach.

And she's like, Oh, really cool. Yeah. It was like Caprio meme. Yeah. I kind of, she's like, exactly right. But it definitely was like, you're right. But it's definitely like now. Blindside hits where the quarterback doesn't even see him coming. Like more of the old school that you see L.T.

and like every L.T. highlight package where he just like comes up and obliterate to quarterback who doesn't even know he's like doesn't even feel him coming. Eight tackles, one sack, one four stumble. Yeah. And that was the that was the turning point of of the game too, because that was I think midway through the second quarter. And the Patriots were driving and they were forced to punt on 4th and 13 over some bullshit penalty that I can't remember what it was.

But then the Bucks get called for roughing the punter because they just like ran into it. Like they didn't even try to block it. They just like ran into it. Yeah, that was clear roughing. Theter because they just like ran into like they didn't even try to block it they just like Ran into yeah, that was clear roughing the dumbest shit ever um, and so they get a first down and then brady Complets a third and 16 the next set of downs. Um, they set up a core dillon touchdown run With like two minutes left in the half and then like three plays later

The sims gets crushed by uh a rabble blindside sack fumbles ball McGuinness recovers runs it back to like the 20 and then tries to forward lateral it to somebody else. I think McGuinness is good for one of those every like few weeks. And then the Patriots score another touchdown Brady to Gibbons. And so now you go instead of going into the half down seven nothing you go into the half 21 nothing down so this is prime Gibbons time too he really is yeah rushing it right now this is when i bought the Gibbons jersey right yeah because he was coming off of injury and they were saying like the last couple of weeks he wasn't quite feeling himself but he was like on the field and this looked like the first week where he was back to

like the day of the givens that we remember. He's going to have a touchdown catch in every single playoff game we're going to see. Is he now? He has won every single Patriots playoff game. OK, has it got some weird streak in the Super Bowl or in the playoffs of catching a touchdown? That sounds very familiar.

Now, let's see what else we got in here. Greg, you have anything on John Gruden? I have nothing prepared now. I just said, no, I've, do you have anything on John Gruden? I have nothing prepared now. I just said, no, I've got anything off, off your dome about John Gruden. I mean, have you seen him on the media stuff he's doing now? No, he's on Barstool. He's pretty good. Is he? Oh yeah. You like that move for him? It actually fits pretty well. Yeah. Oh shit. Yeah.

I wouldn't be surprised if he gets another gig eventually. What? Coaching? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. His last his last one. I think college that's probably true. I bet yeah I don't know. I don't think Ellen NFL's in the cards or him But I think with Barstool and like his like in Dianne Sanders play on the media side of things You could then go to college program similar to neon and Belichick with you and you'll definitely do well. I'm a major and blow it up on football side of things. Yeah, but yeah, well, working with them, they're just ripping it. I know what John Green walks into every day. He's just like, hey, come on, John, just be John Green.

And he's like, hell yeah, this is great. Hey, come on, John, just be John Gruden. And he's like, hell yeah, this is great. So I bet he's having the most fun he's ever had in any job he's ever had. Yeah, that's right. The chains are off. Uh huh. So whatever you want. Yeah. Well, what else we got in this? Let's see.

Do you any notes, Steve? You don't take notes, do you? I don't take notes, Andy? I don't take notes Andy. All right here's what. You're the one that has to watch the game. Because this was an NFL on Fox game. They had their top crew Dick Stockton, Darrell Moose Johnson. I thought Moose was pretty good actually.

But they also have Tony Siragusa as like the sideline guy. And he, I don't understand the appeal of you don't like goose he's so fucking dumb oh I love goose goose seems like one of those guys that tries really hard to be funny and the harder he tries the less funny he is no maybe it's just a bad situation for him maybe he's all time locker room guy I don't know I find him in. I'm in on Greg. I think he was like, I wonder what that meeting was like where they're like, hey, so the goose thing, it went really well to start, but now it's not as good.

Yeah, it's like a Gruden situation where it's like, yeah. This is not the environment he needs to be in. Yeah, but like when he started, he was so good. Was he? Like they cut to goose, but the goal line stand and he's like, all right, this is what these guys are thinking. I was like, damn, that's awesome. So I'm not worrying right there, but eventually became forced for him. And like, you know, I feel like he got like, coached up professionally to be a certain way. And then he kind of lost

what made him great. Well, like you showed him like before the game talking to Ronday barbers like, To be a certain way and then he kind of lost what made him great Like before the game talking to Ronday barbers like always Let's see your dance move. Like let's see what you do If you score a touchdown dance and like his whole thing was like I like watching people do touchdown dances like this whole game It's like yeah, I'm not a barber. I'm like of all people Like the most buttoned-up dude, I'm saying he I'm saying. Yeah, he's they think he didn't come up with that bit Some producer was like dearly. Oh touchdown dances would be good. What is get out there goose? His first thing was great and like I let's get him on camera more. That's where you fucked up. Yeah, I watched the 2000 Ravens like documentary there's like a 30 for 30 on it and I came away

I almost wrote down notes to bring to the podcast of just the funny shit Goose said and like the behind the scenes footage because he was so fucking funny. Well, he's not funny on TV then. Maybe he's just one of those things where he's funny but he's not a stand up comedian. He's not funny when he's been better scripted.

That's what I'm saying though, but like he's one of those people where like he's the funny guy but he's not like a good stand up comic. But that's Fox, that's Fox. Could be, yeah. You know? You let him rip. Is anybody funny on Fox?

Or any of those ex-players? Funny, entertaining, or insightful ever. Randy Moss. That's a good point. No, no, not at all. Their halftime show is always. I don't watch it. Forever, for 25 years,

it's been the most ridiculous thing of all time. It's just Terry Bradshaw. Ha ha ha corporate laugh. Yeah, it's Terry Bradshaw and Shannon Sharp talking over each other over highlights. Yeah. And they can't even like the, how often they screw up the highlight, they're one part of the job that they do. It's incredible. It's every time. It's like so bad. 90 seconds of the entire four hour broadcast and they still fuck it up.

It's insane. It's crazy. And they're going through it while they're doing it. And they're getting paid shitless money to do it. Yeah. And we're like, who's asking for this? Nobody cares about this. I've never heard of anyone be like that. I just watched for the fucking pregame. I fast forwarded the first half so I can see the fucking, what Terry Bradshaw thought.

Yeah. Oh, I will say if, if they were on TV now, they definitely, Darrell Johnson and Tony Siragusa would definitely do a podcast together. Moose and Goose, right? Oh yeah. Obviously. Moose and the Goose. Yeah. Oh is he RIP? Yeah. Oh shit. That was a big part of the 30s when he died.

Oh alright. So it was like there's a lot of stuff focused on the Goose. There you go. That sucks. Everyone liked him. Yeah. Great teammate. I'm sure he was. He was just insufferable in this. He wasn't insufferable. I'm sure he was. He was just insufferable in this. He wasn't insufferable. I just thought his foot is not putting a position to succeed. I'm going to change your mind on this. Neither was Chris Sims. I'm going to find some footage. You're right. Chris Sims is also not putting a position to succeed. But I just didn't feel like, I feel like there is more style over substance with Fox broadcast generally. Like they have the football animation, but like everything else kind of felt

a little rown together. Like the AFC stuff, it's like, it's kind of toned down. Like, you know, the CBS or whatever, it's kind of toned down, but like, they usually get things right. And there's no like, like halfway through one of the kick returns, like they just accidentally flashed a random graphic

like the the replay graphic came up like in the middle of a play or Stocked in not knowing how to pronounce Matt Chatham's name like yeah, I get it You don't do a C games very often, but it's definitely not Matt Cheatham Is it in and you just push the any I mean, hmm, I think it's perfect. I'm just over here being a little bitch I'm perfect. This podcast is perfect every fucking time. Yeah. Yeah, it's not that I Stumbled over a word earlier tonight. Yeah, you can stumble over word but like he's keep going also not getting paid six figures Broadcasters to know somebody's name is pretty good Oh, if you're not pronounced Matt Chatham's name, right the first time just keep going then someone in your ear I'll tell you you're pronounced it wrong and the next time we get it right or you or you

correct yourself no you don't actually they don't teach you to not correct yourself why because it draws attention to the error that's fine it should you should be more energetic about me that's not only only because only fucking idiots like you actually give a fuck no I do I don't like it either. I watch football see other 99% don't even notice or don't care or don't watch a game like other 99.97% don't see you have you never been on the on social media while a football game is happening. That number is way too high. There are a bunch of people are as autistic as I am. Exactly. Yeah. That's the point zero three, Andy. Oh, it's way higher than that, Steve. Is it though? Oh, it's like 50% of Twitter. You can imagine

there's millions of us. That doesn't actually prove your point. Yeah, it does. That's just giving a voice to the point zero three. Those are Russian bots, Andy. Just amplify. No, Russian bots can't, they can't be. Russian bots also hate commentators. Hello. Russian bots are the, the commentators. What's that jersey you have, Andy?

I don't know. What's the only commentator jersey? Andy, what's the commentator jerseys they have? I think it's like a. I don't have it anymore. It's on like Cardinals, maybe? I don't need it. It's Dierdorf, Steve.

I know you actually can't remember. Oh, I can't. Just trying to make it a joke. We all know we can't remember the name. I can't remember. I wasn't gonna let him off the hook. What do the Russian bots have to say about Dierdorf? Dierdorf actually is a Russian bot, Steve.

He was like the initial AI. All fame, Randy. With some respect on that man's name. Can't wait for my jack shit jersey to come in. First overall pick in Pats. Oh God. Speaking of jack shit. Isn't it aggravating seeing all the jostling

for the first pick now and that like, it could actually have a decent value even though all these quarterbacks suck. Yep. Like someone's gonna pay for that pick. Yep. We could have had it. Could have been yours. Sucks. Yeah. You're really high on mail weren't you Greg? How you feeling now? No I said we should have hired Dante Hightower. No you want to Dante Hightower. No, you want to Dante Hightower as your office coordinator. All right, best and worst. Cut that part out Andy. Always do.

We never cut anything, Greg. This is going on only fans as well. How do you think about that, Greg? Put your child on only fans. There's a negative percentage chance that anybody pays for an OnlyFans for our podcast. $2.00. It's actually the dark abyss. You know, like there's not a safer place in the world that video of my child could be

that in our OnlyFans locked. What if it's $2.00 and 83 clicks? I feel like at that point, how could you not? Right. It's basically free. It's basically free. It's basically free. Do they make free ones? Yeah.

Yeah. Don't make it free, Andy. No, $2.83, man. But you know what I learned the other day when I was reapplying for my passport? I was born at 3.28 a.m. So I was made for this fucking podcast. I was destined to do this. How do you even know that?

I was looking at my birth certificate the other day. Oh, I have no idea where my birth certificate is. Yeah, well, I took a picture of it on my computer. It's the only reason. Yeah, best and worst, Craig. You're gonna have to come back to me. You know what? My worst is that I did not watch the game,

prep for the game. Do you know which game it was? Yes. But my best is that I'm transparent and that if anything on this podcast, we're transparent to our fans. That is true. And hand out. I didn't bring it this week. I'm sorry. So your best or your worst. Worst is that I didn't bring it. My best is my transparency. All right. I guess that'll work. Steve. I have no worsts. A 28 and nothing.

Drubbing another contending team is enough. Well, pretty good. And my best is that Tom Ashworth knows who we are and knows about this podcast and has sent a video requested by me specifically for us. And he can you play it? Why don't you hold up to the fucking thing? Oh, you want me to hold it up to the? Yeah, that's what you did last time. It worked just fine. All right. Yeah. Morning, Steve. This is Tom Ashworth from the first Patriots Super Bowl run. Landon was telling me about your podcast on that era.

Sounds like a good time. Just wanted to wish you a Merry Christmas, Happy New Year and go Pats. Hope all is well in Virginia. Cheers. How would you pay for that, Steve? What a legend. Zero, zero dollars. Would you say you guys are friends now?

Yeah, definitely. 100% we're friends. If I saw Tom Ashworth and I was like, hey, I'm Steve Brown from the Patriots Dynasty podcast. He'd go, oh shit, Steve, what's up? How you doing? Great to meet you. That's probably true actually.

Yeah, it's absolutely true. He's like in the middle of nowhere on some ranch just living his best life. Yeah, that's absolutely true. He's like in the middle of nowhere on some ranch just living his best life Yeah, that does sound awesome. Yeah, apparently super nice dude. I met his brother through work He's also an awesome dude, and I didn't put two and two together until maybe you know six months later I did you put two and two together staring at that? Poster and you saw the names and you're like, Hey, do you, are you related to Tom? And he said, that's my brother. Yeah. He had mentioned,

he had mentioned his brother playing football and shit at Colorado, whatever. There it is. And yeah, so that's, that's what he leads with. Not that he won a fucking Super Bowl. Yeah, I mean, his brother's also crazy too. He's got like multiple degrees of PhD in astrophysics. God damn it. He was directing a commercial for my company. He's got two million followers on social media. His brother's also crazy. What's his brother's name?

Landon Ashworth. Landon Ashworth. Yeah. Landon, he These fucking brothers. He's autistic, super like out about it. Just an awesome... Look at this hunk.

This is the man meat this guy is. What the fuck. This is Tom Ashworth's brother, huh? That's crazy. Not his famous brother. Tom Ashworth's brother, huh? Uh huh. That's crazy. God damn. Not his famous brother. Tom Ashworth, definitely the most famous brother. Well, yeah, I mean that happens.

He's got all the Super Bowl rings, you know. So he showed me a picture of him holding the, with his hand with all the Super Bowl rings on. Damn. Uh huh. Trust me, I tried to get Tom on this podcast. It landed on here. Uh huh, yeah, we should get that on here.

He doesn't give a shit about football though. Okay, let's go. He is Greg apparently. You know, I've been watching these games. Did you say he's autistic or did I make that up? No, he's definitely autistic. Then he's going to fit in fine. That's what I'm saying.

Yeah, that's true. Andy and him. Andy and him we're going to find. We'll hit it hard. For sure. 100%. Yeah. All right. Speaking of which, I'll do some best and worst and I'll throw in some facts for you

boys. This game featured the winning coaches of the last four Super Bowls facing off. Because the one that, that's the one it was Steve, the one that the in 2002 the page didn't go to, it was the Raiders and the Bucks. And that was when John Gruden left the Raiders to go to the Bucks and that was when John Gruden left the Raiders to go to the Bucks and then beat them because he knew all their plays and they didn't change any of their cadences or anything. There's also Mara Craftsiting which was bittersweet because I think it's pretty obvious that

she was the one keeping Robert in line and now he has gone off the deep end that sucks. the good thing about assumption you just made there any old-school Fox broadcasts is that you can hear the crowd noise really well and that was definitely a heckler close to one of the microphones and the three that I picked up were Sims just like your old man you can never do two in a row. Whatever that means. I Think I've had two completions in a row and I'm not sure. Yeah, then the guy saying games over Near the end of the second quarter with the pass up seven nothing

Hard boss next on that day. Oh, no one. Hey bid well you guys suck Which is great until you realize bid well is there punter Those the top three that I actually managed to catch Well, the punches usually hang out like to the side exactly I think close enough that you could use the name on the back of the jersey telling me sucks My best was Tom Brady's touchdown pass to Corey Dillon. It looked very Patrick Mahomes-esque, except it was completed for a touchdown.

One of only two touchdown catches Dillon has from Brady. I was wondering how many he had. Where'd you get that stat from, Greg? The thing we were just talking about earlier? Yeah. PBTD.com I just do a couple of sparkle earlier. Yeah, he be TD

Yeah, yeah, you did not catch many but that was the 12th different player that had caught a touchdown from Tom Brady this season Which was mostly NFL. Yeah. Yeah, and then props to David Gibbons He caught a quick like scream pass and was about to get the end zone and got absolutely Popped by the defender. And instead of anything, he just got up and gave the guy a high five for hitting him so hard. And it was like, it was, I would have given me a concussion. It was a heavy hit. Like I said, this is prime David gave his time right now. Yeah. Well, this was actually his career high in yards. He had six catches, 136 yards and touchdown. So prime. And then Vince Will Fork on this game, or this is early Vince Will Fork and he was kind of the reason Cadillac Williams never got going. And the

Moose Johnson said that he was whamming the Wham because he was like, they're trying to Wham block him and he would just like take the Guy was trying to wham block him and throw him into the other blocker And not move which is what the whole idea was But he actually got to sims on a pass for us Which has to be probably one of the most terrifying things as a quarterback that I could think of Is an unblocked Vince Willefort bearing down on you from the front. It's gonna be terrifying because he's fast He was he ran a faster 40 than Tom Brady did.

Yeah, I remember that. He was. He was... Finn's Wolf work, awesome. And just so Greg can't shit on me for being me some negative, I'm actually gonna say something positive about the Buccaneers too. So fuck you, Greg. I'm excited to hear what's going to be. I'm excited to hear what's going to be. Rondé Barber had a sack the week before this and he became the first cornerback to join the 20-sack 20 interception club. Oh wow. Yeah, there's two safeties and four linebackers.

Can you name any of them? Charles Woodson. Not on this list. Not on the 2020 list. At least not 2005. What's the Rod Woodson? Nope. I have no idea. One of the Saviors is Leroy Butler, the other one you should know because he went on to do what? Harrison? Harrison. I'll give you, you won't probably know Seth Joyner as a

linebacker or Wilbur Marshall or William Thomas but you should know the other one because he also went on to do 30 and 30. There's only two guys that did 30 and 30. Ray Lewis? Yep Ray Lewis and Rodney Harris the only two guys that do 30 and 30 and one of them is in the Hall of Fame the other one is not. Ray Lewis has 30 interceptions huh? That's pretty crazy. Right? That's crazy. Yeah. He's the worst. That was the other takeaway I took away from that. Yeah that tracks. Raven's documentary is Ray Lewis is insufferable. I can see that. Ego on that man is fucking insane. Oh, for sure. You said about 30 for 30. Yeah. All right. I'm interested. All right. So I mean, if I actually get my act together, we'll link to that. Yeah. Bucky SPN. Fair. If you, what's

the next game next week, Greg? It's the last game of the season. Is that regular season? Okay? I don't think that's true 16 yeah, it's week 16. There's seven days 17. So almost well good effort, you know Andy They change it recently so Yeah, so the pages are traveling to Giant Stadium apparently to play the New York Jets. That's gotta suck. Oh, it's gonna be a barn burner.

Another divisional game. I love these ones, Andy. Oh, I think you'll. I do love a good just dick. I think you'll appreciate this game, Greg. Just looking at the scoring here, you will appreciate this. This might be one you wanna watch.

That's all I'm saying. Let might be one you want to watch. That's a long time. Let me take a look see here. If you do want to watch any of these games, you can watch them at page.games. And because I am who I am, if you want to watch more games, you can go to pro football archive.com. This looks awful. Pro what?

Are we talking about the same game? Yeah. Look at the second score. I'm on ESPN. Oh, of course you are. I see 52 points, Greg. Yep. So Monday night, Monday night football, 52 points.

Pro-football-archive.com. Oh yeah, we talked about this a couple of weeks ago. Yeah. You can watch this and all sorts of games. Or you can just be like Greg and not watch anything. That's fine. Yeah, yeah. Pro dash football dash archive.com.

It's my latest project. Or sign up for OnlyFans. You can see that look that Greg gave me when I said that he was not happy, which is weird because he doesn't watch any games anyways. And the only reason I'm watching games is because I don't have a job. That's really what that look was about. That look is a look of ambivalence Steve. Well we'll let the only fan subscribers judge that. Christ. All right and on that note I think we've beaten this horse enough it's dead and it's pulverized now so until next week. Turn in next week to see how much of a

blubbering little bitch Greg is on the Patriots. Dinosaur horses.