Patriots Dynasty Podcast - 2005 Week 16: Patriots at Jets

Episode Date: July 1, 2025

Another "Name Game" (patent pending) according to Steve, as the hapless Jets host the Patriots in a New Jersey slog fest. Join the brothers as they rewatch new Patriots head coach Mike Vrabel's best offensive game as a player. You knew he caught TDs, but did you know he had a multi-TD game? Now you do.Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/patriots-dynasty-podcast. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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game of the Pages of Dynasty era. Much more slowly than we used to be doing, but it is still happening, believe it or not. This week, I am joined by the Brothers Brown. Stephen, how are you? I am great. How is unemployment treating you? That's why I'm so great. There you go.

Not having the job, ugh, it's the best. It seems like you've been working harder since you've been unemployed though. You've redone your entire kitchen. Yeah, I define working though. That's the fun part, but now that's over. I think people do that as an actual job, Steve. I know. I did think about it actually.

Maybe I can go be a tile guy. You'd be terrible. Why? I don't know you just don't strike me as blue collar guy. What do you mean? Remember when I was managing you in a blue collar job Greg? Yeah you were a manager. We were like 16. Yeah you would be terrible. Tell me something about pools. Tell the people something about pools Steve that they wouldn't know. Oh well first place to start if you're having problems with your pool is your pH. If you don't have pH what's that stand for? All the chemicals have to work way harder. What does pH stand for Steve? I don't need to know what it stands for. I'm working with blue collar. You think a blue collar guy needs to know what pH stands for? No, only nerds need to know that, like you.

Oh, I'm a quality assurance engineer. Oh, my pH stands for- Essential of hydrogen, Steve. You just Googled that, didn't you, Greg? Talking molecular. Yeah, you definitely just Googled that, 100%. So- See, this is why Greg's a terrible, terrible employee.

He just questions everything, adds no value. To be fair, when Steve is your manager, it's probably best to question everything. You are great, Andy. You are a great worker. Steve's right. I would be terrible in like a military setting. Oh yeah.

Oh yeah, for sure. So bad. Just tell me why I'm doing this. Oh, because I said so? Isn't good enough? Yeah. Oh boy. All right.

Obviously, Greg Brown is also here, as you've probably heard and figured out at this point Gregory, how are you? I'm good. Are you unemployed? I'm optimistic about the future of the New England Patriots Are you tell me why because we just had the draft last weekend Yep, and we drafted players from the SEC in the Big Ten. Okay, and and they're actually division 1a players Okay, which I think is progress is it remains to be seen see in the big 10. Okay. And they're actually division one a players. Okay. Which I think is progress. Is it? Remains to be seen. All those other ones that weren't drafted from division one a, um, they,

they just didn't work out. I mean, there was a bunch of them that didn't. What about the longest? Andy, so you disagree. Is that what you're telling me? This is why I came to the pod cause I do, we're going to go right to this. And Andy's like, well, what about that guy who was a really good receiver in one double A? Well, didn't, didn't they pick up the next Christian McCaffrey from one double A? I did see that guy. He looks, it's ridiculous how much he looks like McCaffrey. Well, he's a wire running back. So of course he can catch, but even

so like just the way he like he moves his body. Yeah, they didn't draft that guy that way. Let's be clear It's a major tomorrow Steve. That's not when you drop it It's strange and they don't even have a fucking highlight package for the guy in the first round Well, that's on ESPN. Isn't it? Trivia on Henderson, I watched him play a couple times, you know, it's nice Oh, so because the casuals can't participate. That's what we want. Yeah, no, we have casual surprises paid in the draft. That makes sense. Let's do drape. Let's grade the draft. Grade the draft. I love post

draft grade. All right, you Greg, give me a grade. I give it a B plus. Greg's grade B plus. Oh, I'm going to go A minus. They got good value relative to the consensus. Big board rankings, you know where they pick these players was was significantly lower on the average than when they were projected to go. God damn it. I'm going to go A plus because it's Mike Vable as the coach, and that is the perfect segue into this game because we're watching 2005 week 16 against the Jets

and the real only thing of note in this game that happens is Mike Rable catching two touchdown passes from Tom Brady to increase his touchdowns in his career to six on six receptions on six attempts. Impressive. This is the peak of Mike Fable's tight end powers right now. It sure is. And it is he set NFL records in this game. Most receptions each for touchdown for the start of his career with six. And the first player

since 1982 when he started tracking sacks is a stat with two touchdowns and a sack in a game because he followed up his second touchdown catch with the next play. You don't think so? Two touchdown catches and a sack? I mean... Or just two touchdowns and a sack. Who would... Maybe someone has to pick sixes, I guess? Could be, yeah, and a sack. But no two touchdown catches and a sack. No way. Or like a fumble recovery. So we're seeing history here. We can say two touchdown catches and a sack has never been done before or since. I don't know. Probably not. So this is a historic game.

It is a historic game for sure. Yes. Okay. I don't know that I would recommend watching it though, because it is a definite old plotting old school Pats game. Well, did you watch it Andy? Huh? Yeah.

Did you watch it? I watched most of the way through the third quarter and then I looked at the rest of the stats and realized that nothing else was going to happen and I basically last until John Madden said Methodical dominance is boring, which is exactly what's happening in this game Patriots 50 carries for 151 yards. Yeah, and 30 touchdowns. Yes.

Three yards a carry, 50 times over. Well, yeah, man. That's the Patriots between the end of the first half and the beginning of the second half ran 31 straight plays without the Jets offense being on the field. I thought you said this game was unwatchable. I thought it was great because if you hate the J you hate the jets like I do, then you love this watching fucking Brooks Bollinger back there just overmatched. Get a book.

Yeah, but I'm finding it to the end of the exciting. I hope Doug Flutie. Yeah, yeah, of course. We've got a few of those. Estaburty probably also the oldest quarterback duo on the field at the same time. Maybe since Brady played for us. I don't know. It was probably Brady and...

Breeze, like when they're on the box. Could have been. Or Favre. Or actually probably Fitzpatrick. Stat check, Greg. Stat check, therefore. It was the oldest quarterback duo on the field at the same time. Wow.

They need to place two more years after this? Jesus Christ, dude. This is Clutie's last year. No, it definitely is. Yeah, for sure. I think it might be right. Maybe Tess Verde and Brett Farr. Tess Verde and Brett Farr, right. 2021, Brady and Breeze, oldest KB matchup out there.

43 and 42. Where'd you get that from? MAC Sports. I literally just Googled it. Me too. Are you doing AI overview? Oh, that's why you are you wrong my friend, huh? That's where you went wrong Actually, the the AI overview also says Tom Brady and drew breeze. I did all that check right now That's not allowed and all this QB duo to play against each other I'm ready to raise you be duo on the field. I call that.

No Gregory in peak performance. Nice to see. Well, how old are they? I got 44 and 38. 44 and 42. I think it was. I just go. I fucking sucks.

43 and 42 combined. Can we agree? Can we agree? Yeah. Yeah. Yes. I'll say, I should just lots. It's useless. Yes. All this AI shit is just Siri, like dolled up.

Yeah. So you want to, you want to know the secret to what AI actually is. It's just taking all the words that it can find and putting them together. And then when you ask it a question, it just tries to find the most used next best word to answer your question. And so just build a sentence with whatever the next best word. So it was basically auto-com complete, but for answering questions. So when the AI like, Hey, what kind of person is Greg is going to say?

It's just going to make something up from whatever everybody else has said. Well, I feel like every single podcast we play that clip. Oh, that's true. Yeah. It probably would say something like, Sometimes a normal boy. Nope. Turn in next week to see how much of a blubbering little pitch Greg is on the Patriots dynasty park. So yeah. No, it'll say Greg Brown.

You know Greg Brown is right? Which one? The guy from Texas? The basketball player or the football player? Cincinnati Bengal. Greg Brown. Defensive lineman, I believe. There was a guy that was in Texas that was like an NBA prospect and he was just like

an athletic freak, but an idiot. Well, that tracks. And his analysis stuff was so funny. It was like, this guy is like super powerful, super strong, super fast. Super dumb. But he's just dumb as bricks and can't do anything right. So he's probably going to be terrible. Super. But he's just dumb as bricks and can't do anything right. So he's probably going to be terrible. Perfect. That's beautiful. Yeah, I mean, that that feels like a tracks to. So, Greg, did you watch this game? No. OK.

Do you blame me, though? Uh, I mean, you've had like five weeks on a podcast that talks about how they watch the games. I know, but 2005, week 16 Jets Patriets Patriots, like, you don't like that. You don't like watching the rivalry, rivalry week. Yeah. You know, it's, there's just a lot of good sports going on right now too. Yep.

NBA playoffs, Premier League, Champions League draft. Did you watch the draft coverage Greg? Did you watch ESPN for it? I watched like some of it and it's super annoying. Can who cares about that? Did you watch the draft coverage Greg? Did you watch ESPN for it? I watched like some of it and it's super annoying. Can we talk about that? Yeah, go ahead. Did you watch it Andy? No, not at all. Man, it's brutal. All these like puff pieces they do where you like they'll draft someone and you'll be like, oh man, this is so I've never heard of this guy, but he looks sweet. I hope they show some like highlights of him and they just talk about like how he volunteers at an elementary school.

And you're like, I do not give a shit about his. Will he help my team? Charity work. Just, yeah, I want to see what he looks like playing football. What was it the same as all the other years where they just talk about like the biggest sob story they could find about each player? Yeah, the COVID ones were like ridiculous. Oh yeah, I bet they were. Yeah, like, oh, his sister's roommate got cancer when she was young.

Cool. I didn't watch a single second of the draft coverage. No, you didn't. No. Same. Surprising. I just. It's not true. It was like, I went to the bar with Trevor, the Alliance fan that was on the Thanksgiving episode. And it was Celtics playoff, caps playoff, nationals, baseball, and the draft all at the same time. They had a little quad box of TVs going on.

So I did watch it, but it was on mute. So I didn't watch any or hear any of those op stories. Well, that's fair. But I was with him when the Lions picked that wide receiver that no one had ever fucking heard of till Isaac Tesla or whatever his name is. Nice. I had like 500 yards in college and was injured every single goddamn year. He was so he got, I got to see him experience what I was so used to you know this is all new experiences for him to the Lions being good and like draft and all that you know drafting actually matters because it yeah and

then and then they just picked this fucking random guy from some school that no one's ever heard of and there's no like who probably work out um historically that seems to have worked out for some teams. Yeah, maybe, maybe not. I guess we'll find out. How would you grade their draft, Greg, since you're such an expert on draft grades? I give them a C plus.

Yeah, I've reached. Did you see when they gave, I think it was Bleacher Report gave the Seahawks an F for their, the gray, the draft where they got Bruce Irving and Russell Wilson. The entire Legion of Boombl4. Oops. I know. I've like, I don't like that everyone loves the Pages draft. It makes me think it's going to stop.

That's what, that's what's kind of is like yeah, it's almost a bad thing Yeah, speaking of sucking tell me about this Jets team Steve. They fucking suck 312 They were bad that probably lose next week to you to go 3 and 3 and 13 They were go 4 and 12 Let me let me tell you about this this 2005 just seem There were attempting to prove upon their 10 and 6 record from the year before, 2004. But they failed and finished the season with a 4 and 12 record. Their lowest win since their 1 and 15 season, 1996.

And they went 0 and 8 on the road for the first time in franchise history. Classic Jets. They had two pro ballers on this team. One was Jonathan Vilma. And the other one, Greg? High law. Hi, Law. Yup. Nice.

Yup. 10 picks, 18 passes defended on one pick six, which just so happened to be in this game. Yeah. Yup. Against- Takes his old buddy Brady back to the house. Your boy Tom Brady.

He baited him into that too. He baited him. So there's a quote that I found about Brady talking about that pick. So a couple of days after the game, Law got a phone call. He recognized the number, the voice, and the question. Hey Ty, Brady said. What did you see on that interception? What did I give away?

Three titles and two MVPs later, he was still searching the way he had it when he was trying to take the job from Bledsoe. Tom, I played with you longer than anybody over there, right? Law explained. It's obvious what you do. You do this exaggerated throwing motion, and I knew you were coming back the other way. I played with you long enough to know that as soon as I saw that motion, it's not a real throwing motion.

I just stopped. You threw it right there. I'm like a fucking book. Yeah. But then Brady gets some like on a double move later on the same kind of play. Yep. Yep. Yeah. Yeah. This was how long did he play? This is like towards the end of his career, right? Yeah. Yeah. Cause he looks, um, well he goes to Kansas city. Oh, that's right. Oh yeah. He does this one year with the jets and then goes to Kansas city for one, two, two years and back to the jets Denver, Denver for seven games. Denver.

I don't remember that. Wow. So this year in 2005 with the Jets is Tylog's best year, 10 picks, the most in his career. The next one was back to the Jets. Best year, but yeah. Well, in terms of interceptions, it's the most he ever has. And almost the most passive defending he ever has too. But then Kansas City for a couple years, I think I was back in the Jets in 2008, zero picks, two passes defended.

You think you want to learn his lesson, getting 10 picks for a four and 12 team. Yeah, I guess. I mean, one of the 2008 Jets, they were nine and seven. It's Eric Mann, Jr. And then goes to Denver and has one pick. That's the last of his career. So good for him. How many Interceptions you think he finished with Greg his 15-year career? 53 You googled that didn't you? Seven pick six. I was gonna guess I was gonna guess that's regular season though. He's got more in the playoffs, right?

Yeah, cuz he had to when he played for the chiefs against Peyton Manning in that playoff game. That's true, yeah. Yeah. And then three on the Pats and then pick six in the Super Bowl. Mm-hmm. He has one pick six, which we all remember.

He has six playoff interceptions total. Four for the Pats and two for a Kansas City. And like you said, that one game, it's not bad. Quality player, Always stepping up. And also they commented in this game that when they're talking to I always say they said that he didn't burn any bridges and could end up back in New England but that does not happen obviously. So I'm wondering if he really didn't burn any bridges because I've heard I think it was on the games with names podcast they were talking him and he was talking about like

his contract squabbles with Bill Belichick when Belichick first took over. Oh, but he certainly hasn't burned any greatest with the fans, that's for sure. Oh, for sure. So 24, the best cornerback number, I feel like we may have touched on this before, but is that the best like cornerback?

Is that like the number 10, but for cornerbacks? Was he 24 when he was on Denver? When Champ Bailey was there? Or is this pre-Champ Bailey? I don't think it's pre-Champ Bailey, no, but. Cause like he's always 24, but what happens when he runs into, you know, jump around teams?

Cause Champ was definitely 24 in the Broncos. That's why I think. Champ Bailey was still there. Let's see, Tyler was. Let's see, what number was he? 26, I think, actually. Doesn't count then. Well, I think, well, it doesn't, that year doesn't count. Larry's also 22, the second time he came back to the Jets. Oh, even worse. Which love did they give 24 to? Right. Dorel Rivas?

Good question. Vero might have been. Yeah, This is right around Darrell Revis time. That would make sense. 2008 makes sense for the jets. Oh, there's a girl Revis, but tie law. It was, it makes sense on paper because of the jets and all they're good at doing is ruining players careers. We'll see. There's another addition to the number 24 at Darrell Revis. I think 24 is definitely the best cornerback number. Yeah. I mean, 21 was good because that was, um, that was Deon Sanders, right? 21. I feel like some other guys were in 21.

90, awesome. Yep. Oh yeah. Him. I remember asking once Steve. I do. I just don't put him in the elite corner category. He was for one year.

He was for like two years. Yeah. Got paid and then just said down the aid. Pretty much. Let's see best players to wear 21. LaDanya Tomlinson Dion Sanders Eric Allen, Tiki Barber, Patrick Peterson, Cliff Branch, Frank Gore Charles Woodson, Zeke Elliott, Eric Metcalf, Nnamdi Asimov,

Ernest Beiner. There you go. Let's see, Victor Green, 21, Samari Roll, 21. I'm at some, that'd be his name. Akib Tlaib, 21. That's right, Malcolm Butler, 21. Ha Ha Clinton Dix, 21. I met that guy's dad. Did you?

Which one, was he a Clinton or is he Dix? Right? It's a good question. guy's dad. Did you? Which one was he a Clinton or is he dicks? Right. It's a good question. I should have known he was my taxi driver in Orlando. He's your taxi driver. Yeah, he's driving me to the airport. What the fuck? Yeah. There's like an Uber.

Still, it's bizarre. But yeah, I think yeah, geez. And the whole thing is like, how did you get on the topic of all cars covered in Green Bay Packers shit? Oh, yeah. And he was like, hey, what's up? I'm Clinton Dix's dad. You named him.

Ha, the motif makes more sense now. And he could have been bullshitting, I guess. I don't know. I wasn't. But yeah. OK. Is that his real name? You think? I think I asked him that he said yeah, that's interesting It's not his real name. It's a nickname Hushan Trayshon Clinton Dix. Shouldn't it be Hata? You would think like all of them

How was nicknamed ha ha as an infant by his grandmother in response to Hushan often being pronounced like Sean Instead of the intended scene. Oh, so it's supposed to be Haseen. Oh, Haseen. He prefers to go by HaHa. Haseen. Both he and his coaches love the moniker. It is a pretty sweet nickname.

Yeah. You gotta bring the last if you're gonna be named that. Yeah, you gotta be pretty funny. Hell yeah, that's a lot of pressure. Yeah. Speaking of Malcolm Butler, have you been following the Bill Belichick drama? No.

With Malcolm Butler? Do you have any, Andy? No.ichick drama? No, but nothing butler. You have an Andy? No. With his, uh, his girlfriend. What's the, it's the hot, it's the hot news around in North Carolina. Cause he's good. He's the head coach down here now.

That's right. His discussions should he be fired or what his girlfriend, uh, taken over the program. She's taking over the program. Yeah. He's now released the statement that they're not just in a relationship. But like she works for him now. It's a professional relationship. Okay. And she's running. She's run all his interference for him. And it's like going very

poorly. They see the interview with CBS. did. No. The guys like asked him. I saw a screenshot where he was wearing just like a Navy sweatshirt with a hole in it. Oh yeah. At the one. Wearing the most disgusting outfit ever. It's hilarious. Shocking. And they said, well, how'd you guys meet? And she's in the corner, the room, and she's like, don't answer that. We're not answering.

He's already answered that though, hasn't he? I know. They met on a plane? Yeah. Okay. And then she released this big long like she, it was insinuated that it was a screenshot of an email that Bill Belichick had sent internally being like, you know, fuck the medias and that and that, but it's clearly not written by Bill because he's doesn't even use email.

He doesn't actually know how. Yeah. Yeah. And she says she posted it on Instagram with Taylor Swift song over it. Look what you made me do. Nice. Apparently he's buying her like properties and stuff like that. Okay. You know, he's 76. He's 24. So it's going to be a topic. I mean, yeah, this is sugar daddy stuff. I'm still waiting for the part where you should be fired for any of this though Well, apparently there's people within the program at UNC that are not like very happy about it. Okay It's bad PR, you know, like you know these old southern schools

They're very much like keep it close to the vest, you know image and all that shit Games are not gonna give a fuck. Well, that's the thing, right? They got to win football games. Yeah. And so they're like, all right, whatever. Here's a couple more million to go to the NL portal. I know. Yeah. Yeah. Because if there's anybody who's going to be ahead of the game with a new way of recruiting players, it'll be the same thing as Bella Jack being on top of that

when he was on top of the salary cap. Like, that's the reason he was able to have so much success so quickly at the beginning. Like in 2005 when you don't even need a tight end, you just got Mike Grable. Yeah. Or the other tight end they were playing was, what the fuck was it, Brandon Goran was it? Tom Ashworth. He was lining up a tight end and full back. You did a lot of full back in this game actually.

Did he actually go for roots? Most of it was blocking. back. You did a lot of full back in this game, actually. Yeah. Did he actually go up for roots? Most of it was blocked. I think he did a couple of times. Most of it was blocking on the play action touchdowns of Raeble, because Raeble was also a tight end. And Tom Ashworth is full back. Did you run any touchdowns for Corey Dillon? Yeah, so the Patriots, the first two touchdowns

were play actions to Raeble. And then the third touchdown was the exact same run play that they had done the play action off of, but they actually hit it off that time. And Dylan was able to just literally walk in because they were expecting the pass. Or touchdowns to the Patriots gained a total of five yards. Yep. Can you guys tell us the final score? Was there one? I think they just kind of called it eventually. It was a page 31, Jets 21. It wasn't that close. It wasn't.

Yeah, it was that close because Ty Law had the pick six. Garbage time touchdown. And then a garbage time touchdown by your boy Vinnie Testaverde, Greg. Well, how did Brooks look? That's the real question I want answered. Mr. Bollinger. Well, Brooks was, he came out of-

Strands, Tweekes, what are we, um, he came out of Wisconsin with three quarterback records, uh, rush attempts, rushing yards and rushing touchdowns. Oh, so he's a, one of those can I go? He's, he's white though. Yes. Correct. Um, do you want to guess his stat line, Greg? How many carries, how many carries in this game? Yeah. Oh, well it's the jet. So there's a chance that they just don't use what their quarterback's strength How many carries? How many carries in this game? Yeah. Well, it's the Jets. So there's a chance that they just don't use what their quarterback's strength is. You're good at this. So I'm on to the sun here.

What do we got? Like less than five? Less than five, correct. Oh my gosh. Two whole carries. Two carries? Six total yards. None of them were designed.

And then when he was throwing the ball, he threw at 11 for 19 for 100 total yards, one touchdown, one inception, four sacks. So they just ran the ball every play. The insane part is he has 20% of their carries. So they didn't run the ball every play. They just would go three on out every drive So let me see the halftime says I just screenshot this halftime stats were Okay, so the Patriots 101 rushing yards 85 passing yards 16 first down the Jets 21 rushing yards 7 passing yards

28 total yards 0 first downs in the first half Hmm, so he would he would rebound you went from 7 passing downs in the first half. So he would he would rebound. He went from seven passing yards in the first half and he finished with 100 total passing yards. So before you know, Bench mini Testa Verde, I think I've been kind of what you'd expect, I guess. I mean, yeah. Did he flash at all?

No, no, no. I mean, no arm strength. They look good on it. And he could throw it. You could throw on the run. Like he he definitely look comfortable like moving around. Like it's kind of what you would expect from mediocre quarterback today. But, you know, he wasn't fast or anything.

He was just a white quarterback. Well, he set some records at Wisconsin. I don't know. Says otherwise. I mean, this is true. None of them seem good, though. So Eric Crouch, some shit right there. Yeah, pretty much. I mean, really the only thing that's going for him is in strengths is he was in the same

craft classes Tom Brady, so they brought that shit up again, you know, four years later, five years later. Yep. And yeah. No, it wasn't. He was just he was the 2003 six round pick. I thought he was uh, he was just he was a the 2003 six round pick 200th overall Brady eight or whatever. No Brooks Ballinger is not one of the Brady six Let me I will find what they are don't even bother start checking that one

No, no, that's just a Can't believe that just even got to 171 yards? That seems high. I mean, they finished the first half of the 28 total yards, so it is high. Yeah, this game was great. I don't know why you're here, because you didn't have to watch the Jets offense at all, because it was so miserably bad they just couldn't get anything going. So it was just patriots all the time, and then they did that pick six, and then they had the drives to bracket the hash too so they're out there forever too. Yeah, yeah, literally I tallied it up it was. Let's see.

It was a 13 plays 78 yard drive and in a touchdown and then the Jets follow the kick return pages recovered with like 30 seconds left in the half. So they ran three plays and ran out the half. And then after halftime pass, got the ball, got 15 plays, 74 yards in nine and a half minutes. So they, Pages had the ball for 31 straight plays. They covered 151 yards and 17 minutes of total game time

between the time that the Jets had, offense had taken the field last. That's just game time too. Not even like real time. Just think about all of the two minute warnings, the halftime break, the TV timeouts, the whole thing. Yeah, a good third of the game. Yeah, maybe that's why the Patriots defense was.

You got called sitting there on the sidelines. Right. The defense got called because you get on the bike. The defense got called because they gave up a 14 play 75 year touchdown drive of their own. That was like the one touchdown that the Jets scored. Yeah. Five yards, zero seven, seven, negative one and then seventy five. Yeah.

So, yeah. I mean, it was great if you hate the Jets. Yeah. And you just want to watch the Patriots throw the ball around the yard and run. Except they're not that they ran the the ball off time. Like they stay, the Pages came out of the gate, out of the gate, running it like seven straight times on their first drive. All I will say. Yeah. Back when real men played football, you know? Well, this was definitely a different time because John Madden is out there calling out how the

Patriots are running it when they're going left to right because they're having to throw it into the wind so there's not throwing it. And he's like, the Jets really should be putting eight or nine guys in the box right now because the Patriots aren't going to throw it. And he was probably right. And the Jets didn't make an adjustment because that's what kind of game it was back in 2005.

Man, John Madden's the one that I've been the wrong of because I hated him. All of us. From the Super Bowl, you know, saying that you should take a knee, but now she listened to him again. He's so good. Yeah, I know. Yeah. We see the greatest commentator of all time. I'd say probably up there.

Gus Johnson's my favorite. Gus Johnson's good. Nobody can make a game sound exciting like Gus Johnson. I've got a soft spot for Gill and Gino for obvious reasons. But you know, that's radio guys. We could always like have a separate, you know, section for them. I think TV Madden is probably a Tommy Hineson. If you're a roamer.

Yeah, which I am. Tom Brady is nothing better than Tommy Hineson being like, that was a despicable call. Ridiculous. And then they show the replay. It's like definitely a foul. Yeah. love that this is the best I want to see how much time each team Alright, so the Patriots ended this game with 43 minutes of possession The Jets had 16 minutes of possession in this game. Hell, yeah, like that's okay

This was just the Patriots offense on the field the entire fucking time. That's great I mean, it's a great game to watch. If you want to employ 60 minutes, that's good value, though. Well, one of them was a pick six. Right. Doesn't matter, Steve. Points are points. Not when your offense is going on, though. Well, Andy's time possession.

I'll look at the bottom line, Andy. Doesn't matter how the money's made as long as it's's revenue. Right Steve? Can that teach you in marketing? Yes. Jesus Christ. You got a minor in business Andy? What's up? Do you? That explains a lot. No one is so cold and heartless. All right. I mean this game, not very much to it. If you like watching the Patriots just absolutely just wear down a Jets team like to the nub. It's a great game. We have some great shots of fireman Ed looking at it just like smirking like, you know, he hasn't shit his pants even though he probably has.

So those are some fun shots. It's that kind of game. There's some good John Madden quotes in here. Actually, there's a good Christian Foray quote in here. He said, he asked about Tom Brady and Christian Fourier said, Tom Brady's a smooth as a good drink. And that tickled Al Michaels for sure. Wait, why? They were interviewing Fourier? Yeah, when they do the pregame interviews. So they asked about Tom Brady. He said,

Tom Brady is as good as a smooth drink. But he might be the only smart thing Fourier said, having heard him on Sports Talk Radio. That's your problem. Smooth as the other side of a spoon, Andy. There's the other side of a spoon, which side? Which side is the other side? The smooth side. They both smooth?

What kind of spoons are you using? Well, yeah, it'd be the convex side, obviously, Andy, God damn it. Why wouldn't it be the other side? You think spoons are sharp, Andy? Is that what you're trying to tell me? No, I'm asking you, you said smooth is the other side of the spoon, but I don't. Yeah, the other side? You think spoons are sharp, Andy? Is that what you're trying to tell me? No, I'm asking you, you said smooth is the other side of the spoon,

but I don't. Yeah, the other side of the spoon, you know the round bit that's smooth? Yeah. As opposed to the rest that isn't? Like, why is it the other side? It's as smooth as Andy's brain. Zero wrinkles.

I iron it nightly. It takes a very long time. Speaking of big brain moves though, Greg, you'll really like this one because it's all about how great Bill Belichick is. You ready? The Pats were driving again coming out of the two-minute warning on one of their, you know, one of their 31 plays consecutively. And they're driving down their inside Jets territory they've actually been running at the whole fucking two minutes but coming out of two-minute warning it's fourth and short and the Pats run a QB sneak with Brady obviously because it's like fourth and one as soon as they do that the entire

as soon as they pick up the first down like half the offensive line runs off the field and then they substitute on a bunch of like wide receivers and the jets are so caught off guard with that play that they actually have to call a timeout. Just off the clock for the Pats. Thoughts? Big brain move. Absolutely genius.

Big brain move, that's right. Time to burn a timeout, dude. That's what it's all about, considering your timeouts. That's right, especially in the two minute game. And a couple more passes to Troy Brown later and they're in touch out range. So for a cordial, you think that timeout changed the game? Yeah, because you were instead of going into the half 14, seven, you go in 21,

seven game, game changer. Yeah. Double score. That was just putting that extra nail in the coffin there, you know? Yeah. Yeah. And then the double score on the other side of the half, you know, cause a big brain move of referring to kick. Now it's 28-7, the game's over. Yeah the game's over and what's left to play for. Only seven points they got us from that pick six like they can't do anything on offense it's over. Yep and then you can rest all your starters because your

team is like the most injured it's ever been in the history of the Patriots. They're getting more healthy. They were but Teddy Brusky went down with a leg injury on this, on punt coverage of all things. And they eventually came back and said, oh, it's not a broken bone, but it's just a leg injury according to the team, which you know, fuck that means. It's like hockey, it's a lower body injury,

which got Madden talking about how the Patriots, I think his quote was something along the lines of, you know, if you die, the Patriots who will put you down is questionable on the injury report for the next game. Day to day. Like, nicely done. Nicely done, John man. So yeah, if you like watching old school Patriots with a picture of Tom Brady where he has a

shaved head in his like profile picture and you want to see them just run the ball down their jet throats this is the game for you but other than that i am looking forward to when we get the long hair brady back yeah it shouldn't be too long was that 2008 it's coming up to 2009 rather i think he comes back from his injury with the long hair i thought i don't remember exactly when it was but when i i know when i see, it's kind of like pornography. Oh, you know pornography, Steve. I can tell you just had that look to you that you know all about it. This was some Patriots pornography for sure.

Very naughty. Yeah, that's right, Steve. The Patriots are only four point favorites. Really? Yeah. Against a dog shit Jet steam starting Brooks Bollinger. Yeah. Yeah. Over under is thirty seven and a half.

Well, they went over. Pages almost went over by themselves. But I mean, I think the last game was the last game against the Jets was pretty miserable, wasn't it? Monday night right after Christmas. Right. Exactly. Yeah. The other game in week 13, the Pages won 16 to 3.

And that was also another slugfest. Pages ran 35 times for 146 in that game. And was it 50 times for 150 in this one? 50 to 150. That's insane. It's like, you only get him three yards in carry, that's actually not enough to get a first down, but there's like, yeah, we gotta keep doing it. But they just go for it on fourth.

They went for it on a bunch of fourths out of this game. Fuck it. So but they just go for on fourth. I went for a bunch of fourth out of this game, okay So yeah, just one of those games not a lot of explosive plays will say no. No, I wouldn't Yeah, it was enjoyable. Like you said Steve to watch the Jets getting drubbed But other than that, yeah Patriots went three for four and fourth down just cuz they weren't picking it up on third Anyway, just we're getting penalties all over the yard. Just bad, bad game. Should we do best and worst? I really, this is like nothing else to talk about. Sure. Let's hit those bees and, bees and dubs.

All right, give them to me, Steve. Oh, I don't have anything. Let's see. My best is John Madden saying that this could be the pages linebackers could be the best in the NFL according to him his 2005 linebacking crew and you got Perusky and Raible and McGuinness so he's probably not far off I would say I don't know if I can think oh Roosevelt Colvin too has come back from injury. So I mean, I'd say that's a pretty strong case for best linebackers. All this is the same time as that Ravens defense, right?

Oh, five, or is that kind of like tail end of it? Like the elite Ravens defense? I think there's more of them to come. Yeah. Cause that, well, that was 2000, right? When they were like elite elite. Yeah. The year they went to the Superbowl.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But I think they still lasted until the next time they went to Super Bowl. Ray Lewis was still playing yeah against the Niners. Right. Right. Right. So yeah, but I think I think there's probably a case to be made for this linebacker crews. I mean, 2004 they were elite, especially when you have the guys up front too with, you know, you got Will Fork and Seymour up front. So this is a bit of a stack defense at this point. All right, here you go. Ty Warren, Vince Will Fork, Richard Seymour

as your defensive line. Colvin McGinnis, Raeble Bruski as your linebackers. Then defensive backfield is literally whoever they could find that was healthy enough to start, which leads me to my worst, which is Andrew Samuel getting hurt again because he gets an interception and tries to return it and gets knocked out on the return.

And almost, well, he does fumble the ball, but- Unconscious? Yep, he gets a knee to the helmet. And he fumbles the ball, but his knee was down by contact. So the fumble was recovered by the Jets, but then it got overturned on a balance check challenge. So.

They should make a rule that if you get unconscious, it's not a fumble. It should be a rule. Who was that Patriots player that was like unconscious, like half-lying on the sideline, but also touching the ball and you're like, oh, well, this guy who had no idea what the fuck was going on. Yeah, because he had one hand on, he got knocked out, but he had one hand on the ball and like his leg was out of bounds. So they deemed it out of bounds, even though he didn't have full possession because per the rules of electricity.

Yeah, exactly. By the laws of thermodynamics. So, yes, I would say, I don't know, can we give Brooks Bollinger worst as well for one round? I mean, six round pick. Yeah, I really don't put this one on, bro. Since he's eight star of the season. He's not drafted by the Jets, you know?

Since he's eight star of the season. It doesn't matter. It's not his fault. He's playing for the team. He's only going to get a ruining player's career. We're bastard. All right, here you go. Here's a best instead.

We'll go positive. They're not even running them. They're making him throw the ball. Yeah, that was a mistake. Here's a best instead. We'll go positive. They're not even running them. They're making him throw the ball. Yeah, that was a mistake. Here's a positive for you. Troy Brown still in this game, returning punts in his 14th season and he caught two of his three catches in the two-minute drive setting up the touchdown before the half. So still the same old Troy Brown doing his thing. That was going to be my best too. Thanks for stealing that Andy.

You're welcome. All right, see what you got. That was Troy Brown. All right. What's your stealing that, Andy. You're welcome. All right, see what you got. That was Troy Brown. All right. What's your worst? The lack of- Stealing Troy Brown? No, just the lack of big plays in this game.

Like, the longest play in the entire game was like 27 yards. I will go back to what John Madden said, methodical dominance is boring. That's exactly what it was. Three yards to carry. And the Jets couldn't do anything about it, but it wasn't fun to watch at all.

No, like the longest run was 10 yards. Yeah, I don't even remember it. Wasn't good enough. Yeah. All right. Greg? My best is the Jets fans attended to 77,000 people. Good for them.

They're a three and 12 team on a Monday night. I think it's Monday night, maybe some people go up, but like, yeah, but it was like in the morning. I'm sure getting into that stadium sucks. It's Christmas Eve. Oh no, it's boxing day. No. Oh God.

December 26. Yeah, I guess it's probably some people's Christmas presents. Oh yeah, probably. It's pretty good turnout. I mean, do we hate just fans? Present. You open it up Christmas morning. I want to put to could be a small

Santa got it in September August when there's still hope what's the verdict on do we hate Jets fans or do we just hate the Jets? I've even the insufferable. I view Jets fans as like Depressed p. I don't know. It was like I don't know. I think I view them as dickheads I I would if I I don't think they can be dickheads. Oh, you know what I mean? Like I don't care how rude there It's like yeah, but you're just fans so I get it, you know Yeah, like their life is it's like one anything you can't really be it's like I'm not gonna be mad an unhoused person For like ask me for money because you know I get like you've been through some shit like That's a good time. Yeah

Yeah, you're saying like as soon as that unhoused person gets it gets a couple of nickels rub together. They're like I'm hot shit, bro I'm fucking super rich. I'm like the shit, you know, that's fine. They're success They're even just a little tiny little yeah, but that's cuz they've never experienced it before like they don't know what to do with it But they have they but they act like they have that's their problem like Giants fans right now are like hey man This is great. Like, you know, not giant lions fans. They're like, this is the best. I'm so happy Like, you know, we work so hard for this and they're all appreciative just fans are just douchebags I don't know being just fan at this point Like if you're still a just fan like it feels kind of like a mental illness

No, no for sure. Yeah, everything they've been through good for you. Yeah over and over again better man than I am What but their sense of entitlement doesn't match Andy? I don't even know if they have I think they did but like they're in the wrecked right now, but they don't anymore it's just you wait all the ones I interact with are just like, even with the Aaron Rodgers stuff, they're like, I don't expect it to work out, but it's cool that like we have something to look forward to, I guess.

And when it didn't work out, they're like, yeah, that makes sense, we're the Jets. I feel like the same the way the Bills, I mean Bills fans were like that for the longest time. They're starting to get more obnoxious now that they've won some things, right? They've had, they've tasted some success for a few years in a row now. No, Bill's fans don't. I don't think so.

Yeah, do you think so? Bill's fans are way worse than Bill's fans. No. Way, way, way. Not right now. No, Bill's fans are starting to get there. The problem with Bill's fans is they're becoming a little bit self-aware of like, the media caught on to what it was. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's true. And then you're going to get people playing the act like the media caught on to what it was. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's true.

And then you're going to get people playing the act because the media likes it, which is not. Coming performative. Right. That's fair. Yeah. Which I hate that. That would piss me off so much. What's that? If I was a Bill's fan, like a true one, I would hate that so much. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Definitely.

I've been jumping through tables. Fucking since Tom Brady was taking on lunch and wouldn't 24 in a row against us. OK. Yep. Now you want to hear my draft content? I got some quotes. Oh, yeah. Give me some. Give me some quotes. Seahawks 2012 draft from the

the Bleacher report. They gave him an F even though they drafted Bobby Wagner, Russell Wilson and Bruce Irving Said Pete Carroll is proving why he didn't make it in the NFL the first time Not only was Bruce Irving a reach at number 15 the Seahawks proved they were oblivious to them to their madness by celebrating their selection As if the day wasn't bad enough Seattle selected Russell Wilson a quarterback that doesn't fit their offense at all was by far the worst move of the draft With the two worst moves of the draft Seattle is the only team that received an F on draft day. He's us Whoops whoops just goes to show you how much weight we should be putting into draft Well, it just goes to show you how much weight we should be putting into draft Well, it just goes to show you that if you have some of those third and fourth round guys hit big It makes a draft look set because Bruce Irvin actually knocked back great, right?

If we get overall for Bruce Irvin, you're like he was good, but he was not like a 50. I take reserve at 15 overall Yeah, Bruce. Yeah, I'd say he was sure. Yeah, he's a good pass rusher. It's about it I mean, that's kind of what you want from his position. No. And then they get like camp chancellor and the third or the fourth that it said they traded from Marshawn Lynch the same year. Oh Jesus. And they got the hell here in Jeremy lane. Let's say that's not a bad draft. Seems like they did. All right. Yeah. Just with still almost because the art was seven past guys pop, you know,

this is the best part about, you know, getting good value in the draft, you know, picking these players who are just way later than when they were projected to go. Like that center from Georgia, wow, what an athletic freak. Did you see his RAS score? Oh my god. RAS score, that's the new thing, right? Yeah, sure it is. What is that, just like an athlete score? Relative athletic score, yeah. Athlete relative to everyone else. Hell yeah, dude. I wonder what my RAS is. We should do an RAS comparison. Okay. Relative to what is the real question.

Each other. That's what it is. We need someone to set a benchmark for us. We'll get Tim to set the benchmark and then we'll have RAS is built against him. All right. Let's say RAS scoring. There's like bench press 40 like. Yeah. Yeah. It's all that. I mean, you can, I think you can go back and calculate RAS scores from other people into the combine. Yeah, right, if it's just pulling from. Yeah. All right, let's see. How do we, okay, well, that's fine. I think I can get into this.

I can learn out on this Aries calculator. Oh yes, there is a calculator here. Okay, here we go. What do we put in it? Greg, what's your height? Six foot even. All right, so that's 72 inches. Weight?

Like 180. Okay. What's your. Weight? Like 180. Okay. Well, what's your 40 time? 40 time. Probably in the, no. High fives maybe? Yeah, I'm gonna put 6.0. Okay.

What, 20? 10? What, how many, what are you bench? What's the, how many is the, what's the weight on it? I don't know. Let me say a good five. I'm pretty sure it might be like one or two. I'm being completely honest with myself.

It's like 225, isn't it? Yeah, right. It's not my best event is, I'll tell you that right now. 225, yeah. 225, yeah. Let's put two. Okay. I don't think you can do two reps on 225.

I don't think you can even have one back up. What's your vertical? Do you have a vertical? I don't know. I don't think you can get that far back up. What's your vertical? Do you have a vertical? I don't know. I don't have a vertical. I'll put 12 inches. You can probably jump a foot. A broad jump.

I was good at broad jump when I did track. So what'd you do? I did the triple jump. Okay. Give me a broad jump number. I don't know what that is. Just give me 72 inches, Andy. Well, give me 72 inches. So that's what?

Six feet. That's definitely way too high. Shuttle shuttle time. Five seconds. Let's say I don't think that's true. I'm making these numbers up. I know. Well, a grid shuttle is 439.

10 seconds for a shuttle. Three cone. I don't know, fucking you tell me, Andy. 735 is good, so probably a 50, we'll double that. You know, move quickly. All right, so let's see, name, Greg Brown. Are you writing, right? What does that matter?

I don't know, it's just, I'm just building a card here. So how do I, now what? Okay, here we go. Oh, that matter? Oh, it's just as weird. I'm building a card here. So how do I know? OK, here we go. Oh, that didn't work. I'll have it. Didn't build a card. It's negative. Now can't divide by zero like that.

It's too high. I can't even calculate. They did have broken the algorithm. It's like you're like you broke it. Strong. That's Jesus Christ. Let's say it's like a fucking alien. Like there's no way this guy got a six foot broad jump.

He's over here. Children can jump further than 15 seconds. Three, no way. I found the Greg Brown scouting report to. He's sexy, but I can't tell you what he does. He shoots threes or dunks. That's it. No skill. It's perfect for the modern day. His interview is very disappointing.

Said he has a comically low floor. Oh boy. Oh man. If that ain't spot on, I don't know what is. That's brutal. I'm pretty sure he washed out to no kidding. Did he get drafted? Oh, he plays for the Mexico City Capitanis. I don't think he got drafted. They still still know he did. Second round, 43rd pick overall pick by the Pelicans. Zion replacement. Yeah. Wow. How'd that work? He's playing in Mexico now. He just told you how it worked. Wow, how'd that work? He's playing in Mexico now. He just told you how it worked mmm comically low floor Whatever that's tough

Coming back from that. Yeah, don't think about the upside though Steve. Yeah, what's the ceiling then hilarious? Pick our Recruit coming out of high school. I mean he's no Steve Brown yo-yo master, we'll just say that. Yeah, Steve Brown yo-yo master's really good. And there's no other famous Andy Brown. There isn't? There's gotta be another Andrew Brown. Not as famous as Steve Brown, the yo-yo master.

Yeah, most of the Andrew Browns that come up are not good. Not good. Not good how? good now, like you know, just like murders. Bum feelers. Yeah, that sort of stuff. And not in the news for a good, good thing. Although I believe there is an Andrew Brown, Andrew Brown shooting

in Texas somewhere. No, Andrew Brown is a defensive tackle for like college. Oh, College football, Virginia play for. Oh, wow's Andrew Brown. That's a defensive tackle for like college or college football, Virginia play for. Oh wow. Played all over bangles, Texans, Colts, Titans, chargers, Cardinals, Bears, Bills. He has a sack 19 total titles. That fits perfectly. Andrew, you're the, you're the journeyman, you know, put them on the end of the bench. I'm the glue guy. You don't really want to get them in the game, but I'm the glue guy, baby. I'm the one for you overall. I'm trying to hire Tom Brady, baby.

He's the fucking yo-yo comically little floor. Yo, yo, the court jester. Oh, boy. Wow. They're right, Steve. Steve, Steve, here to comment. Yeah, Steve Brown, the yeah Steve Brown the Super Bowl champion Super Bowl champion Steve Brown he probably doesn't he coached 18 interceptions five stacks three fumble recoveries he does spell with a B sucker

what about Patriots legend Steven Gregory? That's right. Spelled with a PH actually. He went by Steve Gregory but Stephen PHC Gregory. Born in 1983. The year I was born. He has a Chris Brown cornerback for the Titans I remember very clearly because mom loved him. There's also Corwin Brown for the Patriots. She loved because it was C Brown on the back of his jersey. That's right.

Oh, two years after. There's also Chris Brown. He beat up Rihanna. Oh boy. I forgot about that one. Times a naughty boy. He sure is. Goodness.

Oh God. What's the, what's Steve Gregory famous for? Did he stomp on somebody? No. He got in a fight with somebody, didn't he? Did he? He got in a fight with somebody, didn't he? What's the, what's Steve Gregory famous for? Did he stomp on somebody? No. He got in a fight with somebody didn't he? Did he? Stephen Gregory? He's a questionable off-tempo. You talking about the football player? Yeah.

Stephen Gregory. He's one that recovered the butt fumble in return for touchdown. He is? Yeah. Oh shit. Stephen Gregory picked up the fumble. He also had a pick and two fumble, uh, two fumble recoveries, five tackles and a passive flexion. He was a traditional Thanksgiving award alongside. He's must've been a safety. Uh, he was white with a name like Steven Gregory. Really? Yeah. Former safety. Yes. He was a safety. That's right. White guys having their moments right now. They are. Pick six is in the super bowl. Best player in the NBA, dunk contest champion. We're all over the place.

All right. It's the Renaissance of the Caucasian, Andy. Yeah, I've been held down for so long. Yeah. That's right. Thank God. All right. Speaking of being held down, what's next week?

Steve playoffs. I don't know why you always ask me that. Not the playoffs. It is week 17. We can mail it in next week though, right? As opposed to the way we came out strong this week. I'm talking about the Patriots. The Patriots can mail it in next week because they have already finished the uh,

the division um, I think the way things Fall out, uh, they are basically slotted to play the Jacksonville Jaguars in the first round regardless. So this is I think it was like some some things up in the area. So this is that game against the dolphins at home um, I remember one thing from it But the thing that I remember most from it was that the page couldn't decide if they wanted to win it or not Maybe they should fucking brand new thought about that last game of this past year Oops, but at least you got a

Kick in a three-player draft sick, dude Well, you know, let's see what happens next week. What was this relative athletic score? Greg, did you see that? What's his Ras looking like? Yeah, that's right. I know. I know. I got a good tiny arms.

Very noisy. Ras. Well, we'll find out all this and more next week on the Patriots. Tennessee podcast. So you know, I later. Light up. Turn in next week to see how much of a blubbering little bitch Greg is on the Patriots Dynasty podcast. I just love that sign off as the best. Do you, Steve?

I think the beginning and end of our podcast are probably the strongest part of it. But the mom intro? Yeah, mom apologizing in advance for the podcast, for anything super we're going to say. And then that was smart. Craig calling himself a loving little bitch at the end. Yeah, that was Mike Mello's requirement for coming on. He's like, yeah, but I want to have like some sort of like

some sort of like thing at the beginning that makes it so that we're not going to get trouble for stupid shit that we say. Jokes on him. We haven't gotten trouble yet. Not yet. None of us have gotten fired for our jobs, it's fascinating. I don't think I've listened to... I don't think I've listened to... I don't think I've listened to...

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Now, fuck this guy. I mean, that's right. Oh, wait, he's Greg's brother. He had an absolute. Yeah, right. Maybe I maybe I hadn't put you on. Did you put me down as a referral? Yeah, I guess.

What the fuck do you damn call somebody great? Sounds a strongly word email. Maybe he he did call the one person I knew Attracts what they do to say you an email. Yeah, I'm just one of those automated shit. Yeah, at least they're sending emails Yeah, that's better than I would have thought they would do. Yeah, mostly won't say shit. Yeah I gotta go eat dinner. Yeah, Let's see my child before bedtime. Well, lovely to see you guys. Good seeing you. Let's do it again next week.

Well, Steve, I know you're around, Craig. I don't know. We got people coming in next week and I'm not sure when they show up. I think it's not the Friday, but I don't know what my soccer looks like. The outdoors done. So and then the one of them's either. Wait, there was done or Sundays. So outdoor, wait, what, what, what kind of soccer are you doing these days?

Yeah. I have an indoor team on Mondays. All right. And then an indoor team on either Thursdays or Sundays Sundays. Yep. And then I have an outdoor team that just finished. Oh wait, the outdoor is finishing and the indoor is Sundays. Yeah. And that's an outdoor team that just finished. Oh, wait, outdoors finishing and indoor is starting. Yeah. Well, the indoor team I just joined recently.

I'm with Andy. It's good. There is no way around like you do in order in the winter. And then you go outside. It's too hot here in the summer. Oh, shit. Yeah. I can't play in summer here. Well, they do play and I don't play it because we do. I we try to do indoor in the summer last year and the fucking building Yeah, I can't play in summer here. Well, they do play it, I don't play it, because I'm like fucking died. We tried to do indoor in the summer last year

and the fucking building was so fucking hot that you couldn't, it was worse inside than it was outside because it's just a fucking metal building. It's, they're all just like warehouses. They do year round indoor here. Does it like cool the place enough to be able to like be inside? Yeah, it's nice in there.

All right. Is it like a newer place that way? It's pretty nice. Because this fucking like rising what used to be rising stars in Bedford. So, you know, yeah, whatever. Love you guys. Nice to see you. I play with this guy.

Yeah. His dad is like this famous coach. Oh, yeah. Coach the Premier League. He's actually the current coach of Charlotte FC. No shit. And he was like, he played a college against East state and he was trying to make the Charlotte team. He was in like their like fucking youth program or whatever,

or like B team, you know, kind of shit. Fucking broke his ankle playing indoor. Oh, no. Oh, that's brutal. Oh, no, yes. Yeah, he's a nice guy. I felt bad. Yeah, that's a psych, but still.

All right. That's all. All right. Thanks, Craig. Bye. Bye, guys. See you.