Patriots Dynasty Podcast - 2006 Week 5: Patriots vs Dolphins

Episode Date: May 12, 2026

Join the elder Brown brothers as they attempt (and likely fail) to finish rewatching the Patriots dynasty before they succumb to old age. This week: the Wes Welker showcase game. And that's... well, t...hat's about it. Show Notes:* Check out all Tom Brady touchdowns at tombradytds.comBest and Worst:* Steve  * Best: A high-quality Troy Brown game with a nice touchdown.  * Worst: Mike Vrabel attempting to run up the middle into a human tractor-trailer.* Andy  * Best: Mike Wright absolutely leveling the Dolphins punter.  * Worst: Rookie kicker Stephen Gostkowski shaking off the nerves and hitting a 38-yarder (which was his longest of the season).We want to know what you think of our podcast (no, seriously!): http://bit.ly/patriotsdynastypodcast-surveySupport this show http://supporter.acast.com/patriots-dynasty-podcast. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is Christine Brown, and while I have to listen to this podcast, as my motherly duty, you have the choice not to. My sons sometimes say some naughty things when they're trying to be funny. But really, they're just being stupid. You still want to listen? Go right ahead. I am not your mother. Welcome back to the Patriots Dynasty podcast.
Starting point is 00:00:26 The only podcast, we're watching every game of a Patriots Dynasty era. And we say that as if we're going to get through every game before we die of old age. but at this rate probably not. No chance. It has been a few weeks, but we finally managed to get together. A few months. Yeah, and by we, I mean me and Steve.
Starting point is 00:00:46 Everybody else is too busy. I don't know, having a life or something, which neither of us know anything about. So how are you doing, Steve? I am just great. Yeah. Moved into my new house, started my new job. So much has happened since we last talked, Andy.
Starting point is 00:01:03 Well, it has been six months. that's true well we did the Super Bowl episode yeah that was February and it is now the end of April it will be May tomorrow so that's you know I mean we haven't done a game
Starting point is 00:01:18 in a long in probably six months it's been a while yes well I live with Greg for six months and we successfully avoided doing a podcast while both me and Greg were in the same house well yeah we did the
Starting point is 00:01:30 that's true I think yeah no we just released an episode We did one, we did the previous game, we did the Bengals game. And he was there, but he didn't join the podcast. That sounds all right. Fucking Greg.
Starting point is 00:01:42 As right now, he's out, I'm shredding his knees at a back-to-back soccer game, right? Oh, man, you should see that kid walked down the stairs in the morning. It's a bad. I mean, also, absolutely you don't have car laging your knees, right? It's so bad, dude. That's, he's like, it's like his car.
Starting point is 00:01:58 He's just like, I'm going to ignore it. Hopefully it puts itself. I'm pretty sure that's how knees work. Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. Yeah. Speaking of sports injuries, the game we're watching today is the 2005 Week 5, the New England Patriots at home against the Miami Dolphins. And this is, as you so aptly pointed out before this,
Starting point is 00:02:24 the Wes Walker Showcase game, right? Yeah, it is. And the Nick Sabin first matchup against his, mentor. Was it the first one? Didn't Nick only coach one year? I thought he coached a couple years and then he like bailed at the end of the second year. I feel like he only did one NFL season.
Starting point is 00:02:46 Really? Yeah, you're all wrong. I mean, good job, see. Five and six. Five and six, yeah. So, yeah, and the Patriots played Nick Sabin teams four times. We went two and two. but before this game
Starting point is 00:03:04 Belchek had a whole lot to say about Nick Saban. He is a huge fan and I quote, there isn't a coach in the league that I have more respect for than Nick Saban. I learned a whole lot more from him in Cleveland than he did for me. Well, he always says that about
Starting point is 00:03:18 like the worst players on the other team too. So he could just be, well, no, he usually builds him up but not to that extent. Like that's... And he definitely blows him up big time. But not that there is. isn't a coach in the league I have more respect for.
Starting point is 00:03:34 I feel like the more he calm with the worst he thinks you are. I don't think so. This is probably not true because they were boys or our boys. I think they are still, yeah. Didn't they do some like sit down talk together like after? Actually it was like right around the time that like the last Patriot Super Bowl win. Has anyone asked Sabin what he thinks of Jordan? Probably, I would imagine.
Starting point is 00:03:59 I mean, this is the news media we live on these days. That's your TMZ is all up in a shit. Yeah. Well, there was a player named Jordan Hudson that everybody wanted the pages to draft, and they did not. Damn. Which would have been pretty good. That would have been great. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:18 So we have actually seen Wes Welker before the season before this, 2004, 2005. It was the episode I did all by myself. was the Wes Walker game where he filled in for an injured Alindomare who pulled a hamstring in warmups and so Wes Walker was kicking in that game yeah I must have missed that game because I thought this was the game that he was kicking in
Starting point is 00:04:45 I was like waiting the whole time for him to kick and he didn't kick and he was very disappointed although to his credit he was the Miami offense pretty much by himself in this game he balled out yeah I don't know how just said, nah,
Starting point is 00:05:00 you know what? Yeah, no, he had nine catchings, nine catches for 77 yards, which were both his career high in Miami, until he went to the Patriots, but he also had four kick returns for 103 yards,
Starting point is 00:05:14 which was the second highest of this season for him, and 11th best in his career. He, which is strange, because all of those, like, top 10 kick return games were for Miami, like back when he was only a kick return like only a special teams guy
Starting point is 00:05:31 like talks to me more about the the trade of him because it was a third round pick right I think he was even higher that was like a second round pick and he was like why would you give a second round pick for Wes Welker some nobody and then like I think
Starting point is 00:05:45 they gave up less than that for Randy Moss Randy Moss was a fourth I know that yes I think and I think Welker was the second I feel like it's a third either way
Starting point is 00:05:57 It was, they gave up more for, you're right, a second and a seventh. A second and a seventh, yeah. He was a restricted free agent. Yeah. And he signed a five-year, $18 million contract. That's it? Yeah. I mean, it's wildly expensive.
Starting point is 00:06:14 I mean, in our, it was probably rich for a dude who hadn't played anything at that point, really. I mean, yeah, I mean, he was pretty good this year. Like, this was his kind of like, 67 catches. Yeah. break out of year. Yes. Yeah, he had a 687 yards and one touchdown, which, you know, okay. But he was also like returning kick, returning punts, you know, doing it all.
Starting point is 00:06:39 And this game actually lined up in the backfield next to the quarterback and, like, did a swing pass out of the backfield. Kind of similar to what you would see with someone like, he who shall not be named because he murdered somebody that got kicked off the team. I don't know what you're talking about. Aaron Hernandez. I don't know. No, you don't remember him? That doesn't surprise me at all. Yeah, speaking of the Miami quarterback,
Starting point is 00:07:07 coming into this, it was supposed to be their new free agent signing Dante Culpepper because this was Miami choosing Dante Culpeper over Drew Reeves this off season, which, you know, worked out great. is that. And Saban was pro Drew Breeze, right? I believe so, yeah. But the doctors
Starting point is 00:07:32 basically wouldn't sign off. So I found some information. So here we go. Yeah, this season was also notorious for the Dolphins almost signing former San Diego Chargers quarterback Drew Breeze as they were one of the two teams other being the Saints, obviously,
Starting point is 00:07:48 interested in acquiring the release quarterback. However, the dolphins later declined the idea after doctors informed that Bree's shoulder injury was too severe and they ended up signing Dante Culpepper instead. And then when Dante Culpeper was signed by the Dolphins, Vegas odds makers elevated the Dolphin Super Bowl change from 25 to 1 to 10 to 1. Oh.
Starting point is 00:08:07 Any guesses to how the Miami Dolphins finished on the season? Definitely not 10 in 1. No. Definitely not in the Super Bowl. No. Do you think they made the quarter of the playoffs? No. Where do you think they finished in the NFC East?
Starting point is 00:08:24 Last. Correct. They finished fourth at six and ten. Can't even beat the Jets. And they lose this game 20 to 10 since we never saved the score. They did. And he didn't even start Donnie Culpeper because he had been gotten so beaten up so far this season. He had been sacked so far 21 times in his first four games.
Starting point is 00:08:47 So they decided to give him a break and start Joey Harrington, which they announced right before the game. Who they also have traded for in the office. Correct, yes. They also picked him up from Detroit, where he threw 62 touchdowns, and how many inceptions do you think you threw? 62. 62, yep. One of each. And he didn't exactly improve on that throwing zero touchdowns in this game and two interceptions, both to a Sontek-Samuel. Joey Harrington got for a fifth round pick. I mean, that seems right, don't you think? I know. You, like, flamed out in Detroit.
Starting point is 00:09:24 I mean, yeah. Fifth round pick is not a lot to give up, right? I don't know. You think his value would be worthless at that point. I mean, fifth round pick is not exactly a lot. For a quarterback, a starting quarterback in the NFL? Like, that's, that's like, I mean, I'm pretty sure teams gave up more for, like, Patriots back of quarterbacks.
Starting point is 00:09:51 Who had thrown 22 interceptions in 2003. I mean, that's a lot. That's a lot. But that's a few years ago. And it's also, it's also Detroit. Like, who is he throwing it to? Like, did he have anybody blocking for him, you know? The Miami didn't have anybody blocking for them either, apparently.
Starting point is 00:10:08 Well, in this game, he actually did all right. He was getting a lot of time to throw. And he actually outplayed on the stat sheet, Tom Brady, on the two interceptions. Yeah, and the two interceptions. 26 for 41 for 232. And Brady was 16 for 21 for 140, which is. low.
Starting point is 00:10:26 I guess, but they're also winning the whole time. I mean, yeah. But not by a lot. It was a three-point game up until the last, the late touchdown that the Patriots got. Because it was, like you said, it ended 20 to 10, but it was 13.10
Starting point is 00:10:47 at halftime, and nobody scored until the Patriots in the fourth quarter off of Harrington's second interception. And the Patriots took a shot in the end zone, and it was a real soft pass interference call on the dolphins, sent them up on the one. Not only,
Starting point is 00:11:02 I watched this game, like, a month and a half ago. Yeah. Yeah. No, it was, even like, because the video we have,
Starting point is 00:11:12 the broadcast video we have, has, like, the pre-imposed game on this one, and, uh, the post game, all the channel four guys are like,
Starting point is 00:11:21 yeah, so the play of the game is definitely that defensive pass and interference. it was a bad call though right right like it was not a good call because it was like one of the like didn't turn his head but he did like the defensive back didn't turn his head but he did turn his head
Starting point is 00:11:35 but he just I guess didn't turn it soon I don't know it was it was a rough call but you know this is a this is just kind of the ongoing Brady has no wide receivers to throw it to um evidence by um
Starting point is 00:11:50 the leading receiver on this Patriots team today is obviously Troy Brown Troy Brown five catches 58 yards in a touchdown or reliable and you know looking like you're spry young Troy Brown
Starting point is 00:12:04 from days of you are apparently this is his favorite season was it really in 2006 his biography yep nice he loved 06 I could see it I mean did not like 05
Starting point is 00:12:15 didn't like 05 what did you like about 05 that everyone was sniffing their own farts that makes sense yeah that was paraphrased which you know makes sense. You just won three
Starting point is 00:12:26 six balls and four years. Yeah, and you're running the team back and then all the wide receivers leave except for him. He plays it with Roshay Caldwell and anybody else?
Starting point is 00:12:40 Gabriel. I guess. Two catches seven yards, long of seven. He had one catch in this game, yeah? Two. Two. Oh, two catches for seven yards
Starting point is 00:12:49 for the longest seven. Yeah. On six targets. Right. however Shay Caldwell. How many catches the targets did he have? Three targets, one catch five yards. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:59 Yeah. I think Ben Watson was probably other than Troy Brown. He was the only other person doing anything offensively. Yeah. But I mean... But he had that one reception
Starting point is 00:13:12 on third and eight, I think it was, where he caught the ball in the flat and got lit up by Jason Taylor immediately, shrugged it off, and then went and broke two more tackles, convert the first down. I think it was their first completion of the second half too, and it came like midway through the third.
Starting point is 00:13:28 It was rough. But I mean, this was a really good Miami defense, actually. I've always kind of loved Jason Taylor. I never did. Something about I just didn't like. Oh, he was so good. He was very good. Because it was like him and Dwight Freeney
Starting point is 00:13:46 were like the two like, you know, Tom Brady's nemesis past rushers. Yeah, the premier pass rushers. I fucking hate it, Frini. And I couldn't hate Jesus. Well, I was the opposite. Much.
Starting point is 00:13:57 No, I hated Taylor more than Frini. I don't know why. Oh, I hate it Frini. No. I mean, I didn't like the guy, but, you know. Yeah, I mean, this is just a good defense. Maybe it's Nick Saban, which makes sense. He's kind of a defensive guy, right?
Starting point is 00:14:14 Like him and Belichick in Cleveland, that was like their whole thing. They were just, like, nerding out about defense and coming up with, like, coverages that didn't even exist before. like just literally making them up which I think Sabin still is known for in college but I think they allow
Starting point is 00:14:31 yeah yeah they allowed six total points in the first quarter so far this season like across the season so far in five weeks and I don't think that changed but they were also suffering from a whole bunch of injuries and it was kind of like a pretty
Starting point is 00:14:48 typical I think of Belichick and Sabin games where it was not good offensively like this Miami team in general where yeah defense they were fourth in yards and fifth in points
Starting point is 00:15:01 on the season offense 20th in yards and 29th in points like this was players yeah brown chambre chambers
Starting point is 00:15:10 sammy morris sammy mackle west welker marty booker yeah joey hrington well that's the other issue problem right there i mean joey harrington
Starting point is 00:15:19 let's see he did finish the season as the i was going to say better quarterback. It was the leading quarterback. Threw for 2,200 yards, 12 touchdowns, 15 inceptions. So, you know, about the 62, 62. Like, kind of on pace. Dante Culpeper threw for 900 yards, two touchdowns, three picks. I don't think you played very much, Dante Culpeper.
Starting point is 00:15:40 Oh, Cleo Lemmon also played a little bit. 400 yards, two touchdowns, one interception. So he had the best touchdown, a inception ratio of the bunch. But yeah, like you said, Ronnie Browns, a thousand-yard rusher. Marty Booker. Marty Booker went down with an injury in this game and didn't come back. And then Randy McMichael, same thing. He got hurt and limped off and, like, limping around too.
Starting point is 00:16:06 This is like the, we're getting the very worst the stadiums ever looked, like the field turn. Oh, my God. Like Amari slipping. They were even asking. Oh, and that's what I thought it was at West Velker kicker game because Amari, like, right at the end of the half or something. And he goes to kick a field goal and just rips his ankle, slides out. Oh, yeah. Yeah, it was the first one of the game.
Starting point is 00:16:29 And he got it blocked because of it because he just muffed it so bad. Yeah, it was even in the post game, they're asking Belltrak about it. He's like, yeah, you know, we practice for it. So we know it's coming. But yeah, it's a bit sandy in the middle. That's one way of saying it, yes. That's tough. Um, so I do, I think we're talking about that this is the season where they replace it with field turf, right?
Starting point is 00:16:58 I think they do it in the high week bad. I think they do it mid season. Yeah. Well, I think this is the last game before the pie week. So this might actually be the last time we see the sand. Because it is like, this is. I don't think the dolphins are playing on the baseball field still at this point. Oh, good quiet.
Starting point is 00:17:16 I know they were in 2004. But it's like it's worse than that. It is, yeah, because it is. It's just loose sand. Yeah. Right in the between the hatchmarks all the way down, yeah. And it gets worse as you get close to the end zone. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:30 Yeah. So kick and field goals is an absolute, it's an adventure for sure. But yeah, I think both these defenses were probably the story of this game because there was nothing happening in offense. Here's some good numbers for you. Miami's rushing on the day, 21 carries 62 yards in the touch. New England's 34 carries 79 yards, no touchdowns. It's bad.
Starting point is 00:17:59 There was a super, because, you know, I tell people this all the time, actually, well, not all the time, but often when this gets brought up, I'm like, you know that social media graphic with the jerseys are big based on how many touchdowns, Tom Brady, I was like, Andy created that, and then immediately got stolen by the internet. Yep. And I believe there's a, there's a super rare on that poster. Touchdown in here. Oh, is there?
Starting point is 00:18:32 I would think it's rare. Receiving touchdown? Oh, by, yes, by Jesus Christ, his name, Heath Evans. Yeah. I don't think that's his only one, believe or not. Really? Yeah, I think, let me see if I can find it. It's got to be on the website somewhere.
Starting point is 00:18:50 Yeah. If you go to tombradytd.com, you'll be able to find it. But let's see. Touchdowns via receiver. Let's look for... Yeah, I usually follow those up with how weird you are. Oh, yeah, I'm very... I'll let you pick a...
Starting point is 00:19:11 Who are you looking for? Yeah. None for a famous Wendy superstar David Thomas, though. Oh, this one says only one. That's the... I mean, there's... Yeah. the fullback catching a touchdown?
Starting point is 00:19:24 Well, Larry Senters has one. Patrick Pass has one. Larry Senters and Patrick Pass were more like pass catching fullbacks back in that old school mold. I would say so. Devlin has one. Let's see. Who else?
Starting point is 00:19:38 Nikila Ari has two. Mark Edwards has two. That's why I was like Mark Edwards. Mark Edwards is like the Swiss Army knife. It's just like you know, Belchek was like scheming up the fullback pass to. catch his buddy off guard, you know?
Starting point is 00:19:53 Well, you want to know what my note was on that play? Very well was lined up as the tight end and he was open. Probably shouldn't have been an easier completion. Because he was on the left side and he came across the right and Brady rolled out to his right and he was like wide open. It's a good catch by Heath Evans. A much on the little toe tap. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:15 Yeah, it was a good play. Yeah, and you can watch it. Tom BradyTDs.com. You can actually watch every single one. Or the highlights are on this game page, Andy. That's true, yeah. Pat's dicy.com slash, what is it, see? Oh, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:20:29 Slash game slash 2006 slash week dash five. Yeah, there you go. You can search for it. It's fine. It'll be on there. Yeah. Let's see. How?
Starting point is 00:20:40 What else is happening in this game, Steve? Oh, here's something. Huh? Go ahead. I'm going to go to my notes that are six, eight weeks old. there is another player of note in this game that isn't Drew Brees, Dante Culpepper, or Wes Welker that is Junior Seowell, rest in peace
Starting point is 00:20:59 because he before, like very much, very recently before this season was a Miami Dolphin and had been for the past three seasons. And then on August 14th, perennial all-pro linebacker junior Sayo, who had been with the dolphins for three seasons,
Starting point is 00:21:19 until he was released in March 2006, announced his retirement after 16 years in the NFL. However, he eventually joined the Dolphins Division rival to do with the Patriots, who he was playing in this game. I sort of forget he played for the Dolphins. Yeah, no, I remember it because it was always him and Zach Thomas in the middle, just like, at least one of them,
Starting point is 00:21:44 always running up into the gap between the center and the guard and just like trying to jump the snap every fucking. playing and be like, god damn. So annoying to play against, but as soon as you're on your team, you're like, oh, thank God. He's like the linebacker version of Rodney Harrison, which, I mean, Ronnie Harrison kind of
Starting point is 00:22:03 plays like a linebacker anyway, but you know what I mean. Like there's a pass to Welker, and this is the one I thought where Belchek's probably circling in his play, like, we gotta get this guy. It's like a series of plays, but he like catches it in traffic at the five garland, and Harrison just blow him up across the middle and he hangs on
Starting point is 00:22:21 pops right up and I was like oh shit and there was another one too that was like a short path like that and he like avoided whoever was covering him and then basically took on Ronnie Harrison like just straight up
Starting point is 00:22:33 just like didn't go didn't like try to go around just like tried to go through him like both of them just like huge collision like yeah yeah nope that's about right in fact I had a quote from one of the commentators Greg Gumbull and Dan Deedorf
Starting point is 00:22:47 so I don't know who it was at said this but I'm guessing it probably wasn't fucking Deirdorf. Actually, probably was. He says, I love Wes Walker. He didn't even think about heading towards a sideline on one of his punt returns. Could have gone out of bounds.
Starting point is 00:23:00 He's like, nope. It hit straight up the field. We had a couple that were called back from penalty. A couple of really good ones. Yeah, he did, yeah. Yeah, I mean, neither team did particularly well in the penalty
Starting point is 00:23:13 area of the game. Or third down conversions or anything. Except for the pages, they converted both of their fourth-down conversions, which is pretty cool. But you can kind of tell that the Patriots are definitely trying to
Starting point is 00:23:32 like scheme some things to get the offense going. Like they can, they realize that their offense is pretty garbage with the wide receiving crew that they have. Because last week they relied just on the running game where they racked up, what, 200-something yards? And then this week, they were just like pulling out all the stops.
Starting point is 00:23:53 They went from like what you would see in like 2011 where they would like come out with two tight ends and like line up in that heavy set and then all of a sudden go five wide. And Brady's throwing completion to what the fullback was on the play. I think it was Heath Evans at the time. It's like just random shit like that.
Starting point is 00:24:13 Coming out in, they came out in a splitback set, which you never see. Like that's like, you know, 1950s football. Like, you know, two running backs, like, split off to the sides. It was Moroni and Falkin. That's on third down.
Starting point is 00:24:28 Just trying to get something going, like, try to, like, get anything happening. And it didn't really work. They were held to 88 yards in the first half, total. I mean, I thought this game was pretty watchable for that, though. It was, yeah. It was a decent game. The Welker factor definitely increases it. It definitely helps, yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:48 You could probably skip the third quarter altogether. Like the first quarter is pretty good. Second quarter is all right. Fourth quarter, you know, you have some scoring. Third quarter is just punt downs. Punt, punt, punt, punt, punt, punt. Ronnie Brown, middle, two yards. Ronnie Brown, left end, three yards.
Starting point is 00:25:06 Yeah, let's see. The pages drive in the third quarter. He plays two yards, punt. Five place, 12 yards, punt. Six place. 12 yards punt. Eight plays, 49 yards, punt.
Starting point is 00:25:22 And the Dolphins drives in the third quarter. Six plays, 15 yards, attempted punt that was dropped, so-called turnover on downs. The punter got a high snap midfield and
Starting point is 00:25:34 caught it, but then dropped it instead of punting it. Four yards, four plays, 21 yards punt, six plays, 16 yards punt, three plays minus eight yards punt. And then they started off
Starting point is 00:25:46 the fourth quarter with interception. that the Patriots had turned into a touchdown. And that was about it. So just, yeah, but it kind of had that feel of, like the Patriots, I felt like this would happen
Starting point is 00:26:00 ever so often in the Dynasty, like if there was a QB change, like late, it didn't matter who it was, that quarterback would have a decent game because the Patriots had prepared for whoever the quarterback was and had put in, like, so many things specifically, like, defensively.
Starting point is 00:26:17 like, you know, that they always hear they do, like, oh, we're going to take away your best thing. But then if that best thing changes, and now you have a different quarterback, you're not quite as prepared, and you can kind of see that in this game a little bit. They got absolutely zero pass rush in the first half. The Dolphins actually were able to move the ball a little bit.
Starting point is 00:26:37 Like, they had an 80-yard touchdown drive, a 40-yard field goal drive, a 48-yard blocked field goal drive. Like, they were moving the ball, more so than the Patriots were. Pacea's just taking advantage of that turnover, and that was about it. So, you know, kind of typical.
Starting point is 00:26:55 Typical Dan Deirdorf, too. Of course. I got a little quote from him. I'll give it to me. For lack of a better word, you are. That was it? Right. He literally pauses for 10 seconds.
Starting point is 00:27:08 Oh, that's right. For lack of a better word, for you looking for a better word, and he ends up with a right. Yeah. That wasn't, you know, there were probably a better word. than that too, even.
Starting point is 00:27:18 Oh, yeah. Since you're going to sit there and think about it for 10 seconds. Yeah, that's bad. I mean, having said all that, though, like with the struggles that the Patriots are having this year, the injuries and the, you know, the offense struggle and everything. I don't even know if it's really injuries.
Starting point is 00:27:37 They just, I'm shitty players. Well, I think it's a bit of both. You know, Dale Graham was out. It's kind of sneaky, and their defense is still a little bit banged up, especially in the secondary. Yeah, starting Chad Scott. Right, yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:52 But this marks 53 games in a row for the Patriots without two losses, without two consecutive losses. And they made a comparison that the Browns are trying to win two straight games in the same season for the first time since October 2003. And just remember this is 2006, week five. Yeah, I'm like so. got a long, oh and 16 season ahead of them. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:22 So this isn't even a bad it gets for them. It's, uh, like Andy, today isn't even as bad as it gets for the Browns. Oh, that's probably, yeah, I mean,
Starting point is 00:28:32 we'll see. Yeah, they're probably going to start Deshawn Watson. I mean, they've tried that before. It's like Deshaun Watson or Shudur Sanders. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:44 I mean, they're not making great decisions. But, I mean, it's also, the brown so you don't expect them to you right right i mean is it all right they're just going to keep sinking lower and lower i mean yeah i guess so um i think i feel like they've they've hit the bottom but they've just started to dig now which is interesting um it's it's definitely a choice but you know
Starting point is 00:29:05 not one that i would make so yeah let's see what else we have um i think that's most of it um do you have anything on the anything else on the on the referees Steve? I hear a note that I don't remember what it says. All right. Brady takes a shot and then rips it at the ump. Does he?
Starting point is 00:29:28 Yeah, I think he hits the ump with the balls. That's going to be my guess here. Yeah, yeah. I mean, that sounds right. He did take some fucking shots in this game. Definitely did. Yeah. I mean, Ryan O'Callahan is his starting, what, left tackle? Right tackle?
Starting point is 00:29:44 I don't know. Yeah, right tackle, I think. Yeah, it is, I mean, it was Jason Taylor, who just, you know, gets those at least once a game. But then, like Matt Light always struggled with Jason Taylor and... Like Freeney. Like Freeney. The speed guys, he always seemed to have...
Starting point is 00:30:02 He was really good against everybody, but those two. Yeah. Yeah. And whoever that guy was for the, um, for the Bills, Aaron Schobel. Yeah, no show show, show. Yeah. No show. That's what the Bill's fans call him.
Starting point is 00:30:16 I thought he showed up. Really? He has the most sacks ever against Tom Brady. Of Tom Brady, yeah. Yeah. So it seems like he showed up against Patriots. But yeah, they also tried to call Brady for an illegal motion when they did like the direct snap to, I think he's coming folk. Because they claimed he didn't stop, but he actually did.
Starting point is 00:30:36 Like they're explaining the rule as they're showing the replay of Brady like stopping. And Brady was fucking livid because of course he was. And then that defense. pass interference on dolphins is just garbage. Yeah, that one was pretty bad. Yeah. Let's see. Oh, I had a football, not football. Okay.
Starting point is 00:30:57 There was a, like, you can actually hear a decent amount of crowd noise in this game. And somebody was doing a stuff, my burrito chant. So I was wondering if that's football or not football, because I know that's usually a joke, but in this case, I really don't know. What does stuff my burrito mean in football terms, Steve? I don't know. That's not a football at all. Are you sure?
Starting point is 00:31:26 Why would you chance at a football game, though? Yeah, and this is probably like pre-Chipotle, too. I would think it was 2006. Chipotle is not on the scene. Burritos are on the scene. Tripoli was on the scene in Virginia, because I remember discovering it when I went to college. Yeah, but not in New England, no.
Starting point is 00:31:43 No, definitely not. I think it's just about getting to New England now. Yeah, maybe. So, yeah, I don't know what the stuff my burrito chant was. That's a strange one. I was hoping you would be able to help me with that, but I guess not. Not, I got nothing for you.
Starting point is 00:31:58 It's not something you can. I'm not touching that one. Steve. Yeah, I think that was. There was the Rodney Harrison force fumble on the first drive of the dolphins. Oh, yeah, that was a good. While lying on his back. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:12 Rodney. That's kind of a crazy plot. I don't think he didn't mean to do it. I don't think he didn't not mean to do it, but he definitely just like threw his hand up there to hope something would happen and it just worked. Right, that's how most of his game
Starting point is 00:32:27 just let me get stuck in there and see what happens. Yeah, yeah. So, yeah. All right, want to give me your best and worst? My best is, it was a really good Troy Brown game. Yeah, yeah. Sneaky good Troy Brown game. Yeah, featured on their passing attack.
Starting point is 00:32:44 Mm-hmm. return in punts, didn't have to play defense finally, it's a touchdown and a nice touchdown. Oh, yeah. It was a nice, it was a nice, real quality Troy game. It was, wasn't it? You know, especially when you think he's,
Starting point is 00:32:58 at this point, it was really his last year. I think he's on the team still in 07, but he doesn't really play at all. Um, yeah, I mean, he doesn't get much playing now. I think you're right. I think. So this is his time to shine around. He's competing against Doug Gabriel and
Starting point is 00:33:12 Mike Thomas and I mean, whoever else, Chad Jackson. But yeah, but he's still, he's still putting up numbers, you know? There was a lot out for the, and I remember this commercial so clearly. What commercial was that? This is a positive for the announcers.
Starting point is 00:33:34 The Patriots lineman commercial, right? Oh, yeah. Manning starting to do a ton of hits. Yeah, yeah. I remember that one, yeah, where, and Brady, like, made them, put them in. put the the lineman in the commercial
Starting point is 00:33:47 like he wouldn't do it without him I think which was like showing you why Brady was better than Manning at the time all right also I have this this is from the post game press conference well that works
Starting point is 00:34:02 really well all right well here here's what he said I asked you about Troy Brown and he said yeah he's amazing Troy's amazing. That's a guy you can just count on
Starting point is 00:34:17 whether it's offense, defense, special teams. I'm always happy to see him have success because I think if anybody deserves it in this league, he does. As hard as he works and as competitive as he is and as tough as he is, it's great to see him get the success. It's just the bad.
Starting point is 00:34:30 I mean, of course. That's not him just pumping up tires. That's true to his from his honor. Yeah, because he doesn't say that about his own players. Right. He doesn't say that shit about his own guy. He says that about Joey Harrington, because Joe Arrington's playing against him.
Starting point is 00:34:45 Yeah, exactly. Yeah. But this is, yeah, especially like somebody who's currently, he'll say it against guys who aren't on the team anymore. Like he would, yeah, he'll talk about Lawrence Taylor. He'll talk about Mark Bavarro, but he's not going to talk about the guy who's on the team currently, you know? Right, right. Unless he's Troy Brown.
Starting point is 00:35:04 So, I just talking about how Troy Brown, like, basically splits his week of, like, practice on offense and defense. So he does, like, one day on offense, next day on defense. just like doesn't both. It's fucking wild. My worst is Mike Rables attempted run up the middle into Keith tractor trailer. You didn't like that?
Starting point is 00:35:28 I mean, it's funny in that like they're gonna, they'm assuming they play together? Right? He's definitely a patriot at some point. Yeah, I think he was already a patriot. They either play together or will play together. or will play together.
Starting point is 00:35:45 Yeah, something like that. Yeah, I think they may have already played together. But, yeah, that was... That guy's just so big. And, like, why are you running Mike Bable up the middle against that guy? Why are you at that guy? Like, he's, like, the original Vincewell Fork.
Starting point is 00:36:00 Just an absolute monster man. Who was the other? Sam Adams was the other one. Yeah. Yeah, oh, yeah. Yeah, the Sam Adams that returned a interception for a touchdown against Brady
Starting point is 00:36:12 in that 31st. nothing drubbing. That's the image I have of him. But that dude's fucking huge. All right. They did play together. The trailer was, 04.
Starting point is 00:36:25 Okay, it was, yeah. That's what I thought. All right, let's see. My best and worst. My best was oh, Mike Wright. He blocked field goal on the Miami's first drive.
Starting point is 00:36:41 and then when the punter caught the high snap, the Miami punter caught the high snap and then dropped it on the ground Mike Wright absolutely leveled that guy and he must have enjoyed that so much just lit up the punter
Starting point is 00:36:59 like how many times you get to actually light up a punter and Mike Wright is not a small dude either like he fucking laid into him so that was an unsung play, I think. And then let's see. I would say my worst would be
Starting point is 00:37:20 we'll go with this maybe not the worst, but Goscowski comes into this season three for six for field goals. So I'm sure you start, but he hits a 38-yarder, which is his longest of the season so far. rookie Stephen Koskowski
Starting point is 00:37:43 just you know he's just shaking off the nerves but he hit a 38 yarder which on this field is actually probably pretty easy yeah right at least he didn't slip while doing it
Starting point is 00:37:52 yeah but I have in here a note under Chris Chambers oh shit he's playing he finally makes a catch with seconds left in the first half and I'm not sure
Starting point is 00:38:03 he did much else after that did he um yeah let's see Chris Chambers did he have another catch catch? Oh, 10 targets, five catches, 29 yards.
Starting point is 00:38:15 A longest of 10, which is probably that first one. That's rough. So just, yeah, not a great day for any offense, really, but Miami especially. Unless your name is Wes Welker. Yeah, it's 77 yards. Yeah. Longest play of the game by anybody? Putting on a click.
Starting point is 00:38:36 25 yards. Yeah. Getting some. some plays at running back kick returns, punt returns he's okay, you should have let him kick it at this point, right? Why not? Right. I was really hoping he was going to. But that first catch that he had
Starting point is 00:38:52 was his first catch against Patriots in his career. Because last time they played, he didn't actually play on offense at the time. And I'm assuming he plays again later when they meet again this season. He does, and he gets locked down. I looked it up. um he has like maybe one catch i think has bell checks going to that game being like we're getting on this guy beat us again nope um although i think the dolphins you end up winning that
Starting point is 00:39:18 game um but uh yeah so um to your point about was walker his first uh his seven first half catches is a career high for him uh his career high in a game with five catches and he had seven in the first half of this game pretty good yeah it's not bad so yeah yeah So Patriots, like you said, pulled off a hard fought 20 to 10 win against the bottom dwelling dolphins. But they'll be heading to the Ralph. I don't know if it's actually called the Ralph in 2006, but that's fine. To play the Buffalo Bills. And you can probably guess how that went because we all know how the Buffalo Bills play football against doing the Patriots.
Starting point is 00:40:06 But you'll get to see that with, oh, probably against J.P. Lossman. Oh, oh, baby. I must see TV. Oh, my gosh. And I'm just looking at the highlights right now, and I think you might be for a treat. Speaking of that graphic that got stolen by the Internet, you might have another first on there, too. Oh, now I am actually intrigued. So, we will see you next week.
Starting point is 00:40:34 football next week I'm not necessarily next week let's just say next episode next episode on the Patriots Dynasty podcast so yeah
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