Patriots Dynasty Podcast - Emergency Episode: Super Bowl LX

Episode Date: February 6, 2026

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is Christine Brown, and while I have to listen to this podcast, as my motherly duty, you have the choice not to. My sons sometimes say some naughty things when they're trying to be funny. But really, they're just being stupid. You still want to listen? Go right ahead. I am not your mother. Welcome back to the Patriots Diocese podcast, the podcast where we are theoretically going back and rewatching every game in the Patriots Dynasty.
Starting point is 00:00:29 It's been a while, but we thought we would do, I think we need an emergency podcast. because a lot has happened since we've last spoken. So in true fashion, with me today is just a whole mess of who knows. But I do know that Greg is here. The most dedicated of all the Browns, the best fan of all the Browns. Oh, is that right? That's right. Care to explain how you have achieved that ranking?
Starting point is 00:00:56 Well, here I am. That's true. Well, so am I, though. Ready to record, notes in hand. Oh, you got notes. I got more notes than you get. ever imagined. Oh gosh.
Starting point is 00:01:05 So you've actually been doing real work this week. Uh-huh. Yeah, it's just not a work. Most of them are on bad bunny. Okay, good.
Starting point is 00:01:14 I didn't know you spoke Spanish. Mucho gusto. Nailed it. We also have Steve Brown here, but he's on a call, I think, even though he joined our Zoom anyway, on mute.
Starting point is 00:01:26 So I'm very confused about what's happening, but we might hear from him. He's trying to find a job. Or something, yeah. I don't know why. job search is more important than our podcast.
Starting point is 00:01:36 Right? How dare he? Does he think he is? Fuck it Steve. Ah, brothers, man. Don't ever have brothers. You know what I mean, Greg? Yep.
Starting point is 00:01:45 Yeah. All right. And I think Tim might be joining us at some point. We're not so sure he's been working to the bone, I guess. I don't know. I thought he was union now. I thought he wasn't supposed to work at all. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:01:56 Once you worked for the government, I thought it was easy sailing from there out now. Hey, is the trains, the government? I guess probably. this isn't Germany I don't know topical joke Anyway Greg let's start with some big news right now I think the biggest news out there at the moment
Starting point is 00:02:13 since we've last talk is Bill Belichick didn't make the Hall of Fame Is that probably the biggest news story? Yeah It's an obvious travesty And I think Any Hall of Fame doesn't have Bill Belichick in it Isn't a Hall of Fame
Starting point is 00:02:30 So They've done more damage themselves and anything. True. Yeah. I'm the biggest Bill Belichick hater. Mm-hmm. On this one.
Starting point is 00:02:39 Well, I'm not even that much of a hater, but I'm a realist about Bill Belichick. Yeah, you call it. It's pretty obvious that this is silly. Yeah. You know? Yeah. Yeah. I don't know if it's the voting, the way they vote, or just, you know, the fact that there's just
Starting point is 00:02:55 too many people from Indianapolis in the voting. I just don't have that much interest in Hall of Fame talk to be. honest. Like all the baseball steroid stuff, it's like, I don't look back at players and be like, oh, I judge their legacy on whether they made the Hall of Fame or not. It's true. But it's also like how good they were, you know? Yeah, but it's also like there's people who are obviously first ballot hall of
Starting point is 00:03:18 famers, you know, like there's, you know, if Michael Jordan didn't get into the NBA Hall of Fame, like first ballot, you'd be like, what the fuck is wrong with them? Right. And that's a similar situation. Right. But you're still going to look back and be like, Bill Belichick was the best, one of the best, if not the best coaches in history, whether he makes it for the ballot or not, right?
Starting point is 00:03:35 It's true, yeah. But so again, it says more about the, it's not even the NFL Hall of Fame. It's the Pro Football Hall of Fame. Dude, I didn't even know that. Are there any other, are there any other non-NFL players in the Pro Football Hall of Fame?
Starting point is 00:03:49 That's a good question. I mean, I'm guessing it's probably like pre-1966, maybe. So like AFL players. But I don't know. That's all like I think of. doing. But, yeah, I don't know. It seems strange.
Starting point is 00:04:08 So, all right. So, I mean, is there any other big news that has happened since last time? Well, Patriots made a Super Bowl. Oh, that's true. They did, yeah. I think that's probably no worthy. Yeah, we probably should talk about that, I think. So let's bring in our Super Bowl expert if he joins in time.
Starting point is 00:04:27 This might be the perfect timing. Our Super Bowl expert has finally joined us. Tim the intern, Tim turn. Tim, I know, bud. How are we doing? So good to see you, bud. Yeah, how are we doing, dude? How's it going on, right?
Starting point is 00:04:42 It's been a while. Yeah, we're just catching up on all the things that have, that we haven't actually talked about since we've done the last podcast. Well, I have breaking news. Oh, okay. Robert Spillane was listed as limited today. And Spillane is confident. that he will be playing on Sunday.
Starting point is 00:05:03 I did you see that, yeah. Yeah, I'm pumped for that. His media day photo shoot is so funny. Does it? Yeah, the one I put in the chat. What? I don't think you put it in the chat. I don't think you put it in the chat.
Starting point is 00:05:19 Oh, yeah, you did. The farm one. I'm going to be honest with you guys, I thought that was AI. Yeah, I thought it was like, I was like an equipment manager guy, just like dressed up in football pads. like a make a wish situation yeah
Starting point is 00:05:35 how's my audio oh god now see you too here he is multiplying oh god the unemployed Steve Brown
Starting point is 00:05:44 why are you trying to get a job Steve you know like unemployment unemployed unemployed I love it but you know some things
Starting point is 00:05:52 can't last forever that doesn't seem right so wait you didn't get the other job nope which job I don't know the one they sent
Starting point is 00:06:02 you down somewhere. You were like the final three candidates or whatever. No, they said that you called them and after they spoke to you. No. We don't know which one of us we're talking about.
Starting point is 00:06:16 We don't know which one of us you talking about, but it could be, I could actually work for anybody. To be fair, the hiring manager was a Bills fan. Oh yeah, you didn't have a fucking chance. Yeah, that tracks, unfortunately. From Buffalo Bills fan. Wow.
Starting point is 00:06:32 That's tough. Yeah. All right. Well, now of these two are here, we just finished talking about Bill Belichick being snubbed from the Hall of Fame. Any thoughts? Well deserved. At least Robert Kraft got in.
Starting point is 00:06:48 Kraft didn't get in either. I know. Is Venetary going to get in? Yes. At this rate, no. He was more of a cult than a patriot. Doesn't mean he was a patriot. Doesn't mean he wasn't a patriot.
Starting point is 00:07:01 Yeah. It's all like they keep changing the rules and how many people are elected and how you vote and they just like keep jerking everybody around every year they're changing it. So they're going to change it again next year. So I don't know. The hall is kind of ridiculous. I have been. Have you guys been? No.
Starting point is 00:07:20 I've always wanted to go. Is it any, is it worth going? Nah. Because it's not the NFL Hall of Fame. We're talking about it. It's the pro football Hall of Fame. I don't know if there's any non-NFL players. What's the difference?
Starting point is 00:07:30 NFL doesn't run it. They're not in charge of it. No, but they fund it, I think. Interesting. I don't know if there's any CFL players in there. I was triggered by how small the Patriots dynasty section was, yes. Well, that's because there's no Patriots dynasty
Starting point is 00:07:46 players in the Pro Football Hall of Fame. There's more players from the Bills for Super Bowl losses in the Pro Football Hall of Fame than are Patriot's dynasty players. There's also Bill Belichick's game plan, isn't that in there? Yeah. Yeah, from the giant Super Bowl, yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:02 But he's not. Wow. Whatever. Yeah, that thing just stinks. There's something about that that just stinks. We all we need. Yeah. Have you guys been to the Patriots Hall of Fame, though?
Starting point is 00:08:13 Is he in the Patriots Hall of Fame? That's all that matters, right? Have you been to that, Steve? I actually haven't. It's actually legit. It's pretty cool. Andy, when, before I became like part of the pod, I went with my dad, and I remember sending you Troy Brown, like,
Starting point is 00:08:30 Yeah, the Memorial thing. Yeah. I think it was awesome. So yeah, Steve, you have to go as a like man that bears the name. Yeah, it's definitely worth it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:42 It's definitely worth it. It's still in Hollywood. It's right there now. So, like, there's no excuse. That's true. I think I am going to go to the Patriots Steelers game next year. In New England?
Starting point is 00:08:53 Mm-hmm. All right. Steve owes new trip. Because I've been at Pittsburgh, like, three times. We don't know who Steve. is we think you're Steve, so you're going to have to explain that, Steve. Bald Steve, Air Force, Steve. Oh, great.
Starting point is 00:09:06 Yeah. Oh, that's, you got it. Totally brought me up to speed. Yeah, that works. Greg knows. Oh, good. I'm glad at least one other person on this fucking planet knows who you're talking about.
Starting point is 00:09:18 Jesus. I bet, I bet, bald Steve doesn't even listen to this podcast, does he? He's fucking, yeah. The Steelers, man. Why are we talking about Steelers? All right. Let's talk about the Super Bowl.
Starting point is 00:09:30 Dear God. All right. You want to hear a fun fact? You want to hear a fun fact about the Super Bowl? I don't know. Does it have any of the ones? I'm going to stop talking over me. Stop stepping on my lines, Andy.
Starting point is 00:09:44 Can I talk? Are we ready? My fun fact? This is why you didn't get hired. You can talk back. Yeah, fair. The Seahawks are the first team to receive 70% or more of the spread bets in Super Bowl. Wow.
Starting point is 00:10:00 70% of money is on Seattle? On spread. Oh, so they're taking Seattle. Yeah, four and a half. It makes sense. I don't know. Pages don't get blown out. They play closed games. Right.
Starting point is 00:10:15 You can, perception-wise, from how the playoffs win. But certainly. Correct me if I'm wrong, isn't the idea of the spread to make the betting even? Why haven't they moved the spread? In theory. because I think the bouts will cover I think it's more than that yeah
Starting point is 00:10:32 the spread did move in it I thought it went down to three and a half and then when there was reports of May's shoulder being hurt it moved back up to four and a half and then I think it's stayed there. When it moved it was the other way if all the money's coming on the Seahawks wouldn't it go four and a half five and a six they keep bumping the spread
Starting point is 00:10:48 no you're saying before May's injury so like it dropped a three and a half yeah it opened at four and a half went down to three and a half once the May injury came about and there was some legitimacy to it and then once that news happened it moved right back to four and a half
Starting point is 00:11:07 so it's just was heading towards the Patriots until yeah I got you've seen the stats on underdogs right yeah the last three underdogs have won the two balls and that they're four and one in the last five yeah I hear five go against the spread 10 and six straight up since 2010 which is pretty fucking wide Pretty good. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:30 I mean, I'll take those odds, dude, especially like, I don't know, man. It's a coin flip at this point. Yeah. I mean, for me, I was a serious hater of this team. I didn't think that we were going to do anything at all. That doesn't sound like you, Tim. I'm ever the optimist, but I thought we were going to suck. And they proved me wrong, like, time and time again.
Starting point is 00:11:53 I mean, they absolutely. So what's the split here for easy sketch? that, you know, do you feel like, you know, you play who you play and that determines a good team or, like, do you guys believe in the easy schedule kind of thing? Yeah, there's probably a bit of both. They did have an easy schedule, but if the easy schedule is that much of a difference maker, then you'd see this happen more often, right? Yeah. Yeah. They're a legitimately good team. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:19 The NFL, like, it's not easy to win this many games in a row in the NFL, just period. Both teams. Good teams, lose to bad teams all the time. That's why betting on the NFL sucks. It's possible. It doesn't make any sense, but they have been consistent. Yeah. I was after week one, before week one, I was like, they could do something.
Starting point is 00:12:41 After week one, I was like, fuck. It was tough, definitely. I've been living with Greg actually in that room that he's in right now up until last week. And he has some great bathroom reading. in my favorite poop stall in his house, the downstairs one by the back door. It's the Boston Globe from right after that lost the Raiders. Like an actual Boston Globe newspaper? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:11 I usually buy a newspaper when I fly and I was like flying home that Monday. So I was like, I found it in my backpack the other day and I was like, oh, this is sweet. That's wild. Yeah. I mean, to think, from that Monday morning to this, whatever day it is here right before the Super Bowl, what a fucking ride. It's only been two losses.
Starting point is 00:13:36 No, Seannessy? Really? Negative, really? Yeah. What's he saying now? He's probably still negative. Who knows? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:44 Picking the Seahawks who are in a blow on. Oh, boy. Well, let's talk about the AFC conference game, because I or the conference games in general, because I want to get your thoughts on, first of all, the fourth and down, fourth down and one play call thing,
Starting point is 00:14:01 which I think is all revisionist history of all these analysts being like, much a stupid decision. I don't know why they'd go for it on fourth and one. And like, I don't think it's like a slam dunk. Yes, you definitely go for it. But like,
Starting point is 00:14:15 I don't think I've heard anybody say that like, you know, there's a strong rationale to go for it there from the Broncos. It's go up 14-0. Yeah. They were cooking on offense. They were moving the bomb. Yeah, but I mean, the only person I remember who has ever talked about that is the late great Bill Belichick.
Starting point is 00:14:33 He's not actually dead, but he may as well be in the eyes of the Hall of Fame. He said, well, is this quote of something, take the points early and go for it late or something like that? So you always just like in the first half of you err on the side of like, just take the points, like build up as many points you can, which in this case would have probably made the difference. But, you know, being at home with your backup quarterback, like you said, they're actually moving the ball a little bit. Patriots aren't moving the ball at all is going to be a low-scoring game. If you can go up 14, that game's over, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:03 And if you make that, no one says shit, right? They get it. And they go 14. They're like, what a fucking genius. What a coaching masterclass from Sean Peyton, you know? My favorite part of the vicious history is they're like, you should have known the forecast. Yeah. Nobody fucking saw that coming, right?
Starting point is 00:15:21 No one knew that game was devolved You knew it might be snowing later But they weren't like yeah By like the mid third You ain't gotta be able to throw it Yeah, it's gonna be a fucking whiteout What? And then Belichick went for it
Starting point is 00:15:33 In basically the same situation The fourth and the The push was later And then they ended up kicking the field goal anyways And like they're like Oh he outcoached Peyton It's like they basically had the same decision And one just had a different outcome than the other
Starting point is 00:15:49 And now you're saying he's such a better coach It's like that call could have been overturned, right? And then everyone's like, Braywell, sucks. I mean, if you're going to second guess the Broncos call, the fact that they call the timeout and still tried to do it. That's true. And then called that play. Didn't they?
Starting point is 00:16:07 Oh, did they? Push, push. I'm pretty sure they called the timeout before it. Which is the, like, oh, we call them out earlier in the game for this. This is not a good look. You can't do that, yeah. Yeah. Well, I think the real problem for Sean Payton going around.
Starting point is 00:16:21 right at, you know, Patriots best player, Craig Woodson. I got a lot of notes on Craig. Give him. He's my guy. Oh, yeah? Okay. So, Greg, the leg, Wilson? Wait, wait, wait.
Starting point is 00:16:32 This great, wait on with Greg, because I can just tee them up now. I know all of his inside work. I've been more and more impressed with Craig Woodson every single game this year. And, like, no one's talking about him. You know what I'm saying? I will talk about it, Greg. He's quite a lot. All right.
Starting point is 00:16:47 Give me his flowers. He's fourth on the team in tackles. Postseason. first on the team in tackles. Damn. He had the highest snap percentage throughout the season of anybody playing on defense. He played 93% of snaps.
Starting point is 00:17:00 That's a fourth round rookie. Remember we were all talking in the beginning of year. They were like, oh, we got rid of Dugger and Peppers and like, what are they doing? This doesn't make any sense.
Starting point is 00:17:11 No one's talking about that shit anymore. He pulled his lawyer, my wife, card. Yeah? But he did it with bull safeties. So big of all. balls. So Vrable over Belichick. He's not going to have any balls left if he wins this week anyway.
Starting point is 00:17:27 Yeah. Six inches left. And that Houston game, he was the highest-created PFF rookie in any of the divisional games, a pick, a fumble recovery, and like three-pass breakups. He had the fourth down-past break-up against Denver. I think he's playing as well as anybody on that defense in this playoffs. Would you give him the 24 jersey right now? No. No.
Starting point is 00:17:55 No, you got to prove it. You just need more than one season? I do get crushes on defensive backs for some reason, though. I always have. Can we list all your crushes, Greg? I mean, Eugene Wilson, this reminds me a lot of Eugene Wilson where I was like, no one gives you the fact he deserves. Just Craig.
Starting point is 00:18:15 So, but is he good enough for Eugene's number at this? Yeah, I mean, he reminds me a lot of Eugene Wilson, right? like a guy that can tackle really well, lazy hammer. You don't really hear about him that much, which is like what he's supposed to be. Yeah. Kind of underrated. Yeah, I think that's fair.
Starting point is 00:18:31 What round was Eugene drafted in? Second. Fourth? I don't know. I think he was a second round pick. Statric. That sounds better. Right?
Starting point is 00:18:45 Third. Oh, dude. Greg, I got good news for you. What? Eugene Wilson the third. Oh, no. No. No.
Starting point is 00:18:53 Is that his son? Yeah. Oh, yeah. A wide receiver for the Florida Gators. Look at that. His second round pick. Oh, yeah. Overall.
Starting point is 00:19:04 Gang, gang. So he's Trayvion Henderson. Also, he's very handsome, according to somebody on Reddit. Craig is or Eugene? Yeah, Craig. We've got 23 upvotes. I thought it was kind of smart. To be honest, it was one more of the upvoted things.
Starting point is 00:19:21 It's like the Patriot subreddit. It was like someone was like just said very handsome and everyone was like up for really crazy. I was like maybe he is. Was it was the user Greg Brown? Yeah, Greg Brown 24. Tylaw lover 24. Eugene forever. What's the number four?
Starting point is 00:19:43 I didn't get a custom made Eugene Wilson jersey because they like didn't sell them back then. I remember that. Yeah. Yeah. Worked it like other teams too. I wouldn't go from fanatics right now, though. Don't tell like they're... Doing too hot.
Starting point is 00:19:58 Yeah, their quality doesn't sound like it's top-notch. I think it'll be Eugene Wilson, Jersey, somewhere. Any other thoughts from the conference games? I mean, I thought that that fourth and one was like... The Denver one early in the game was just a microcosm for that team, or just Jared Stittem's career in general. Like, with which, I mean, in hindsight, being 20s, 2020, like, you're looking at that as, like, that kind of define the game.
Starting point is 00:20:28 You have the backup quarterback who, from everything that you heard, he was, like, not the guy when the opportunity came to be the Patriots QB to step up. Right. You got one yard that you need to get. And you end up getting, like, knocked out of bounds. Like, you can't do that. Like, if they get that, that's such a momentum swing for them and puts us, like, really, like, on our heels if they end up scoring.
Starting point is 00:20:56 Yeah, even if they do end up, I mean, if we, I mean, we're pretty good in the, like, inside the 10-yard line when it comes to defense and stopping teams. And they've proven that over and over again. So we could have got that momentum back. But if they score a touchdown there, that could have definitely been backbreaking because, you know, the way that May was playing was not up to standard. And, you know, the comparison, if you wanted to from Brady to May, like, Brady, proved himself in those
Starting point is 00:21:25 bad conditions time and time again. Like you see Drake May, he's definitely doesn't seem comfortable once the temperatures start to get real cold and just not, you know, it's hard to play in those conditions, period. Yes, but I mean, it's... You're not wrong.
Starting point is 00:21:42 He's also played, what, three of the top five defenses in the NFL? Sure, yeah, that's also, you know... With pretty much all three of them had great defensive lines specifically as well. and the Patriots offensive line is not there yet. And I feel like the situation football aspect of it too, right? Like they're not asking him to do a lot.
Starting point is 00:22:04 Probably because of Perinovers plays into it, right? But like they've kind of kept the shackles on them in the playoffs. And they're winning games. So you can't really argue with that decision. But I feel like that's part of the reason we're not seeing this like chuck it everywhere, Drake May that we saw before is they're like, we don't need that to win this game. We just need you to not fuck up.
Starting point is 00:22:23 You know? Right. I think from the AFC championship game specifically, you know, I thought the Denver offensive coordinator was really bad in that game, and I'm glad they fired him. And it's definitely not Sean Payton's fault at all. No. They lost that game, and, like, he's infallible.
Starting point is 00:22:43 So thankfully, they got rid of the real problems on their team, which was the offensive coordinator and the wide receivers coach. So I'm really expecting big things from Broncos next year. Oh, apparently that wasn't, see if that was just a caller from Denver named Steve? I don't know who that was. Yeah, let's open off the phone last. Paton? We got Sean from Denver on the phone.
Starting point is 00:23:07 South Carolina. Okay, should we talk about the actual Super Bowl? Greg, did you want to talk about the NFC championship game at all? Anything you saw from the Seahawks? No, I mean, the one thing I thought was interesting. I don't know if you guys saw it on that, like, the fourth down. down play that the Rams had basically like the want to get for the game shock paid you're busted coverage thing yeah or McVeigh cries into his play sheet
Starting point is 00:23:34 right after yeah he like that's a good mean they had they had a route on and the running back coming out of the backfield had like beaten this guy the guy like fell over for some reason the Marcus Lawrence just like didn't do what he was supposed to just dropped into coverage and was like exactly where he should have been and And basically everybody was like, there's no way that's what he's supposed to do on that play. Like it was like just a bonehead move that worked out perfectly for him. I thought it was super interesting. I've never like seen that before, I don't think.
Starting point is 00:24:06 Unless he asked to Marcus Lawrence, then he's like, yeah, of course I did that. But what else you got to say? I saw it on tape. I knew what was coming. But people were like, it's such a great play by Lawrence, so instinctive. It's like, I don't know. I kind of think that he just got away with it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:24 Yeah. So how do you think they match up then? I don't know. It's tough to tell. I can't really get a read on the Seahawks because it's like I have seen Darnold. Yep. And I know that Darnold can be dreadful. You know, he can see ghosts.
Starting point is 00:24:40 Isn't that why the Pagets are playing wearing white? Maybe. Hope that he sees ghosts. Or they've won a bunch of road games so they want to wear their road whites. But they're wearing all whites, though. They've done that a bunch of us here. I know. Cudy in Denver.
Starting point is 00:24:54 Thanks for going with the bit, Steve. Appreciate it. If I was, if I was rich and good forward to a ticket to Super Bowl, I'd go up in a ghost costume. Oh, yeah. That would be perfect.
Starting point is 00:25:03 Then you're, like, it's just a sheet. You can take it off. Oh, yeah, yeah. Like walking in the stadium with a ghost costume would be hilarious. That's not bad. That would be so funny.
Starting point is 00:25:11 That'd be amazing. Yeah. You get on TV that way, wouldn't you? Yeah, exactly. 100% on the suit in the school? Only after he throws a second interception there. Like, find that fucking ghost guy. Yeah, and then you only wear it, obviously, like, when Seahawks are on offense.
Starting point is 00:25:31 Oh, yes, yeah, for sure. Perfect. Yeah. All the ghosts is back. Can I, can we go into the Sam Darnold aspect of this? Oh, yes, please. Yeah, dive in. Give me some Sam Darnel, Greg.
Starting point is 00:25:46 So he's o' and four against the bats, right? Most of these teams have been trash, but the, the. they've been outscored 123 to 23 Oh yeah It hasn't yeah All the games In blogs right
Starting point is 00:25:59 383 33 nothing 2814 and then 246 When he was on the Panthers When were we had that game What were we at that game Panthers game? Oh it might have been that one Yeah that was
Starting point is 00:26:11 Yeah that might have been Darnell I think you're right Yeah So I've rewatched the highlights From that The ghost game Yeah, and it's like way worse than you even remember. Oh, it was atrocious.
Starting point is 00:26:27 Dude. So his stats are he was 11 of 32 for 86 yards, you have four interceptions, which you all know about, right? Oh, yeah. He also had a lost fumble. He also had, they also had a muff punt, wasn't him, but. Yeah. And he also had a snap go over his head for a safety. Wow.
Starting point is 00:26:46 Holy shit. And I was like, the commentators were so funny, too, because, like, You can watch the highlights. You just get like the clip of like the play. And like the one of the interceptions, they're like, it's third and ten. He's like, oh yeah, the jets are 0 for 27 on their last 27 tries for third and 10 or longer. And then he immediately throws a dreadful interception. Later in the game, they're like, they're snapping it from their own five.
Starting point is 00:27:15 They're like, the jets are now have 40 drives straight without a touchdown. And they immediately snap it over his head for his. I was like, dude, I don't even have to watch the whole game to realize how embarrassing this thing. Yeah. Holy shit. Yeah, it was awesome. Because I remember there was like some question marks going in that game too. I was like, oh, can the, can the pages like, because I think the pages had done something like they hadn't been playing their best games.
Starting point is 00:27:42 Like, oh, maybe because it was like a Monday night game's like, oh, maybe the Jets will get up for this and they just fucking didn't. Yeah. That was when the defense started out the season really well. Yeah. They were undefeated Peaches for, I think. There was still like 5 and 0 or 6 in 0, I think. Yeah, but, yeah, everybody had a question mark on them. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:59 Yeah. Eish. You know who else is really bad on third and wall? This Seattle Seahawks team. Oh, yeah? Oh, yeah. They had like 29th offense. Really? Yeah, like 29th in the league.
Starting point is 00:28:12 Okay. Interesting. I don't know if they get there a lot because they're really good at run of the ball, but. I know a team that are stopping the run. Yeah, that's really good of stopping the run. So we'll see. It does feel like it's strength on strength in this game. It doesn't feel like there's any sort of real mismatch.
Starting point is 00:28:31 I think it's going to come down to exactly what every other game has. It's turnovers. Whoever wins a turnover battle, I think, wins a game. Yeah. I think they got to, like, get pressure on Donald. For sure. Because, like, it's so. He's got time.
Starting point is 00:28:47 He's clinical, but, like, you get pressure. just fault. Yeah. Yeah. Well, his splits were something ridiculous, too, of like,
Starting point is 00:28:55 under pressure versus not. Who's that guy? Yeah. I think so. There's some guy on social media who does, like, the top five worst, whatever,
Starting point is 00:29:08 and he's like, honorable mention, and then he, like, does a lot of offensive line play, and it's just him with, like, an iPhone filming a TV screen or whatever.
Starting point is 00:29:16 But if you watch the one of them with the right guard from Seattle, that shit is actually hilarious. Is it bad? That guy's got some like tape that's just legit funny, bad. Really? Oh yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:30 Like missing a block, tripping his own guy, pushing his own guy into the running back to tackle the running back. It's like, it's like funny. Yeah. He's hilarious. All right.
Starting point is 00:29:41 So what matchup do you guys think is the most like key to the game? Like what do you think it's going to come down to? Either coach versus. coach or position group versus yeah position versus Seattle's D-line that and the other way around I think the interior of Seattle versus
Starting point is 00:30:00 Milton Williams and Barmore because if they could wreck it and stop the run then darnal's got to get in the third and long dropbacks which is not his strength then you're more like I'd get a turnover yeah and if Drake May plays like if Drake May is like he's been
Starting point is 00:30:15 the last three games or he is their internal clock it's twice as speed, right? Double X on the internal clock so he looks like shit, throws it away off, and can't throw it down the field, there's collapse on everything. It could be another like charter psych game. Do you, have you guys
Starting point is 00:30:32 notice that it doesn't seem like Drake May is taking off with the ball as much in the playoffs? Like running with it? Yeah. I was going to say the opposite. Yeah, he's running with him more. Yeah, I would think that too. Like all of his big plays have been that's really. Yeah, but I feel like
Starting point is 00:30:48 he hasn't. And chargers run. It's like, he's like, huge. Oh yeah, but I feel like he just hasn't done at the same volume as we normally see it. So I think it's because the defensive lines that they've faced, they're collapsing so quickly around him that he can't do that little step up or get out to the flat. Once he does that, then he has like a better, I think he's, you know, great thrown on the run and making those decisions, but he just has not had the time to do so. That's true. That's true. He hasn't been doing that a lot, like the little movement within the pocket.
Starting point is 00:31:19 Yeah, and then he's playing, yeah. Which is like his bread and butter. Yeah. Those broken plays are like what he needs. The other thing I was going to say about the conference game is like, you've heard about like him calling his own number on that last play. Yeah. If that's true, I think that's like huge, right?
Starting point is 00:31:39 I don't think it was, I think it was, I heard, I've actually been listening to the podcast with Brian Hoyer and David Andrews. which is like a real weird mix, but they're actually really amazing. But they were saying that Josh McDaniels does that a lot. He tells the quarterback, hey, call the run play,
Starting point is 00:32:03 but then keep it yourself, but don't tell them. So the fake is good. So it actually came in from McDaniels that he called his own number. Okay. But yeah, because that's what I thought too, until I heard.
Starting point is 00:32:15 Right, I don't know. Right, Steve? What's that? I called that play. You did call that life, yeah. I basically had it exactly right. I was like, dude, just fake it to the left bootleg and just see if you can get it with your legs.
Starting point is 00:32:29 It's pretty impressed with myself. I also did the same thing, so. Yeah, we all did. It actually seemed pretty obvious. I was surprised that they, like, didn't defend it. Yeah. Because they were going to get it running the ball. If they just ran that play, it was going to go for one, maybe two yards.
Starting point is 00:32:43 There's like no risk to the bootleg if you don't have it. Just go down, yeah, exactly. Yeah, but he made it. So I think for, if it works out that, the way that we just kind of showed like the weaknesses of Seattle where it's like if they can, oh my God, what is it? I already forgot what I was going to say. Move on. Nailed it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:10 Tim's ready for Radio Row. What takes like that? Oh, yeah. Perfect. I've been listening to it obviously all week. Yeah, no shit. Yeah. So here's a question for you, because I haven't listened to Sports Talk radio in a very long time.
Starting point is 00:33:26 How is the sentiment about the Patriots now that Belichick and Brady are gone? Is it more positive or is it still the same negativity? Belgar has been super positive. Yeah, Felger is very positive and has been like pro-Drake-May pretty much since he got drafted. He still does, he still does his. stick like to find other ways and he's still very negative on bill um and but he did go after brady uh today with the whole i have no dog in the fight thing which i thought was pretty cool yeah so yeah who cares about sports talk but based on my real life experiences at the ravens game
Starting point is 00:34:11 with gregg like all of the raven's stands are like i fucking ate the pass but yeah Drake May, you know, I like Drake. I think people really like Drake May. Just like they used to like Tom Brady. He's similar. Yeah, he's got that. 20 years, we'll see what they're saying. You got that, oh, shucks, like,
Starting point is 00:34:28 you know, he's a good boy and, like, he's, he carries himself well. Yeah, married his little sweetheart. Oh, yeah. Yeah. So, like, they like, I don't like the Patriots, but I got to admit Drake May, it's pretty late. Yeah, and what are the thing about Vrabel?
Starting point is 00:34:42 He can't hate Vrabel, right? He's just, it's tough to hate him, too. Yeah. He's a cool dude. Yeah. All right. So are we doing predictions? You guys want to your predictions?
Starting point is 00:34:55 Well, let's talk about Super Bowl MVP betting odds because they just pulled those up. Okay. I just wonder. I just want to know what you guys think about these. Sponsored by Fandual. Who has the best odds, you think? Sam Donald.
Starting point is 00:35:10 Yeah. Plus one 15. So it's like bet a dollar and make a dollar and $15. Cool. That seems crazy, right? Drake May. Yeah. Drake May is plus 2.30s.
Starting point is 00:35:23 Double. So last time it wasn't a quarterback was what? Edelman? Cooper Cup. Did he? Oh, against the Bengals? Yeah. Who's the first defensive player on the odds list?
Starting point is 00:35:37 There's actually three of them, all the same odds plus 10,000. No. Which team? But the Marcus Lawrence? Yep. Yeah. Him, Leonard Williams, and Nick Amanawari,
Starting point is 00:35:53 the rookie safety who's injured. Yeah, he just... All have plus 10,000. Which is the same as Cooper Cup and Hunter Henry, Marcus Jones. Kishon Booty is worse than those guys. I mean, it's tough to be out of Corby. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:09 How do you get to Kachan Booty, though? You know, like, you'd have to have, like, three touchdowns, and that is probably Drake's. You know, like, Travion Henderson plus it takes three screens to the house sort of thing, you know? Yeah. Like, what about Milton Williams? Like, if he's going against that right guard and wrecks the game and.
Starting point is 00:36:29 It'd have to be like a benefit-time game, though. Exactly, yeah. I think Trayvion's great value because you, there's been games this year where Trayvion, you've been like, like that game. Like that game, he was MVP of that game. I mean, he'd also do nothing. But he could have two long touchdown runs in a tight game, like a 24-20 game.
Starting point is 00:36:53 He's probably the best player on the field, right? Right. Andy Corgallis has better odds than Mill Williams. What? Has that even never happened? I mean, the kicker won the MVP of the league before, but like no kickers ever won the Super Bowl MVP. The Seattle kicker has better odds than Kisham Booty. he's pretty good
Starting point is 00:37:16 he is good he's very good but mil Williams plus 22,500 there's a reason somewhat reasonable he has a really good matchup at the inside and does what he did against the chiefs again the last defensive player yeah
Starting point is 00:37:34 for mill and Williams to do it it has to be like a field goal game he has to get like a strip sack pick it up and running in for a touchdown. This is how I know this is dumb. Harold Landry has better odds than Christian Barmore. That makes sense.
Starting point is 00:37:51 Is he playing? He can't run. He might not even play. That guy's been useless since the Saints game. Yeah. He's been useless since that Saints game, man. I mean, credit to him for gotten it out, but Harold Landry is not what he was in the earlier season.
Starting point is 00:38:06 Remember that injury in that Saints game? I thought he was cooked for the year. I remember when Desmond Howard won the MVP? I've rewatched that too this week Oh my God All right well speaking of old To watch yeah Rewatch material for preparation in this game
Starting point is 00:38:27 All right we can do that too I have some Patriot Super Bowl trivia If you guys want to plug Oh yeah I'm down All right All right let's start with Let's start with an easier one All right, can you name the six running backs who scored a rushing touchdown in the Super Bowl for the Patriots?
Starting point is 00:38:50 Just like all time? Yeah. James White. Kevin Falk. James White. Kevin Falk does not have one. Curtis Martin has one. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:03 Blunt, probably against Eagles. Does not have one now. Moroni? Yeah, Moroni has one. Shane Varene Shane Varene does not have one Antoine Smith Sony Michelle
Starting point is 00:39:16 Antoine Smith There's one more It should be the easy one Corey Dillon There it is Oh yeah Only one of those If that's an easy one
Starting point is 00:39:25 That took a kind of a while for us Only one of those has multiple rushing touchdowns Which one is it? Multiple Cory Dillel No Sony Michelle
Starting point is 00:39:36 What you say Greg White James White has three Oh shit Everybody else has one. I mean, he had, what, three in that one game, right, Atlanta? Yeah, he should have been. I think someone were two-point conversions, but he should have been MVP of that game for sure.
Starting point is 00:39:51 Yeah, I think so. Oh, my. I mean. That's Tom Brady's greatest game ever. There's no way. That's his second greatest game ever. I mean, the Eagles won. He threw for 500 yards against Eagles.
Starting point is 00:40:03 If you were in 30 years, you're going to look back and be like that. Tom Brady game was the peak of Tom Brady. Yeah. And who did he rely heavily on? James White, both running and catching the ball. Great, don't get me wrong. Yeah. All right, there are five Patriots players who have scored multiple touchdowns in the Super Bowl,
Starting point is 00:40:22 not counting orderbacks, of course. We've already just talked about one of them. James White has four total. He's got it. Some of these are... Huh? Edelman? Bronk.
Starting point is 00:40:34 Gronk. Edelman does not. Then we got that one. Dion Branch. Does not have. David Givens. David Givens has two. David,
Starting point is 00:40:45 which should be pretty easy. Paton? No. Fuck, you only have that one? Brandon Lafell. There's only the player Ammon. Only has two
Starting point is 00:40:59 Oh, Mike Bramel. There you go, receptions. That was a good one. All right, we'll move to this one. Which four players are tied for the most sacks in their Super Bowl careers? for the Patriots. Taylor Jones?
Starting point is 00:41:13 Nope. Richard Seymour? Nope. William McGuinness is on there. Flowers? No. High Tower. Jamie Collins.
Starting point is 00:41:24 Oh, High Tower. Yes. Teddy Brewsy? Teddy Bruske, yeah. What you say Seymour? Seymour is not one of them. What about Jarver's Green? No.
Starting point is 00:41:36 Vince Wolfthorke? Let me give you the same clue that I gave you on the last question. Mike Brable. Nice. Mike Vable is one of the few, the only one on this list who has multiple sacks and multiple touchdowns in the Super Bowl. Should be in the Hall of Fame. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:56 Only one player in Patriots history has multiple interceptions in the Super Bowl. Multiple interceptions. It's not his annual? My law. Rodney Harrison. There it is. Wow. He sealed that Eagles game with it.
Starting point is 00:42:12 That's right. Yeah, he had two in that Eagles game. One in the end zone. Yep. Did he have one? He only had two, though? Yep. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:42:22 I wasn't sure if he had one against a panther. Yeah, only one has ever had multiple intercepts. Right? Yeah. It's had some good D. Oh, here you go. Well, how does Asante, hey, if Asante Samuel only has one? I believe he only has one.
Starting point is 00:42:33 Fucking asshole. Well, he should have had two. He fucked us. Yeah, let me see. I have the list here. Let me just pull it up a quick. Bruske, Malcolm Butler, Stefan Gilmore, Harmon,
Starting point is 00:42:46 Hobbs, Tailaw, Otis Smith, the only people who have interceptions in the Super Bowl in the Patriots. When was Bruskees? That's a good question. Carolina, maybe? Yeah, maybe Carolina. I think it was Carolina. Yeah. I don't remember that though.
Starting point is 00:43:04 Unless he had one against, was he was there in 07, right? Maybe he had one against. to Eli. I don't think so. Yeah, I don't know, actually. I can't remember. How did he say it? No, he was there in 2007.
Starting point is 00:43:20 Yeah, I think he was maybe right the end of his. I think he retired in, oh, eight. I know Troy Brown did. How many of those got returned for touchdowns? Just one. Just one. All right. The greatest defensive play in Patriot's history?
Starting point is 00:43:34 No, Malcolm Butler's interception of the call. Oh, yeah, that's true. Oh, dude, that that that Thai law interception like kind of is the start to the dynasty. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, but the Malcolm Butler was insane. Malcolm Ballers was the culmination of the second. Yeah, the second like. That was just take off.
Starting point is 00:43:59 And you have to remember who hit Kurt Warner to cause that. Mike Redel. Yeah. He's the start of the dynasty. That's true Fuck Tom Brady All right Speaking of Tom Brady
Starting point is 00:44:12 True or false Tom Brady is in the top 10 For Patriot Super Bowl rushing cards No Top 10 or Super Bowl rushing cards They've only been to 10 of them Right or 11 Yeah overall
Starting point is 00:44:24 Overall This is a good one Andy Yeah I thought so too This is really good one I'm gonna say false I think true Because we have rotated Through somebody running back
Starting point is 00:44:36 So like Yeah but he doesn't have enough rushing yards. Like he's only got like two per. He was dumb in Atlanta. I remember that. James White would have had way more than that. But he gets a lot of...
Starting point is 00:44:48 Like a Super Bowl where the beaches have never run the ball more than 10 yards or whatever. Can't think of one. Tom Brady... I'm trying to think all the sneaks and stuff. Yeah, I don't think he is. Number 12. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:01 With 30 rushing yards. 30? Oh. There are only two players who have... over 100 rushing yards in their Super Bowl careers with the Patriots. You want to guess or just want me to tell you? Antoine Smith has 175 rushing yards in two Super Bowls. White?
Starting point is 00:45:24 No, James White has 78 total rushing yards in three years. Kevin Falk. Kevin Falk is the other one, 102 rushing yards in four Super Bowls. Number three, Sony and Michelle in one game. four yards that ran Super Bowl that's what they're all about back then yeah Stevenson
Starting point is 00:45:44 and Rex Bark had 61 yard oh and two super olds so number 10 Curtis Martin 42 11 Lawrence Moroney with 36 and then 12 Tom Brady with 30 after him is David Patton Wes Welker
Starting point is 00:45:58 Nice All right let's see I did that one Who has more receptions in a Super Bowl Randy Moss or Malcolm Mitchell I mean Malcolm Miss was a brand game in Atlanta Yeah
Starting point is 00:46:11 And Moss had just the one Super Bowl Did the goals just have one Super Bowl? I think they did yeah I don't actually remember I don't think Malcolm Mitchell played more than a year Right because I was a year Yeah I'll say Malcolm Mitchell
Starting point is 00:46:27 Yeah I'll say Malcolm Mitchell I'll say the number eight nine catches Malcolm Mitchell Had six catches Randy Moss five catches. Oh shit, wow. Where does Adam Vinatari rank for a Super Bowl field goal percentage
Starting point is 00:46:44 out of Patriots kickers? Has he missed any? Well, how many won't they're beating? There's a lot. The one from 85. Then we lost, he was there in 97. They didn't kick any against Green Bay. They just had 21 points, three touchdowns.
Starting point is 00:47:03 True. Okay. and then he didn't miss any in the first one. I think he missed in the Carolina. I think he missed in Carolina. I don't think he missed in Eagles. I'm going to say he's number... Didn't he miss a bunch, though?
Starting point is 00:47:24 Yeah, but... In the Super Bowl? In the Super Bowl? I remember having some big game misses where we were like, God damn it. In the 85 Super Bowl, they only scored six points, right? they kick two field goals. Yeah. I don't think they scored six points, are they?
Starting point is 00:47:40 Yeah, they lost like 45 to 6. Yeah. I'm going to say, so wait, what was the question again? Remind me? What is the military rank? Yeah. Third. And field goal percentage.
Starting point is 00:47:54 Yeah, I'm going to say second. I'm impressed. It was third. Oh, wow. Tony Franklin is first, the 1985 Super Bowl. he hit one field goal of one extra point number two is Stephen Goscowski
Starting point is 00:48:08 was 77.8% he's 12 of no sorry seven of nine field goals and super goals and Adam Minutary is 4 of 6 for 66%
Starting point is 00:48:18 well 6.7% where was the other miss I think he missed two in Carolina you had a rough game because of the long snap was that guy from yeah yeah
Starting point is 00:48:29 like that was teaching middle school that story is crazy Yeah. That story is crazy. Exactly. Good thing he's not in the Hall of Fame. With that kind of record. I mean, yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:40 Fuck. Bob. All right. Which three players have the lowest pass rating in a Patriot Super Bowl? Amindola. Yeah. He is one of them. O for one?
Starting point is 00:48:54 39.6. Not Grogan, but Eason. Or Eason. Tony Eason. Yes. O for six. 39. 0.6.
Starting point is 00:49:06 Before growing came in, I believe. Yeah. That is insane. Yeah. I mean, Blanco, his past rate was terrible because he threw like three picks in that game. So it's probably Blitzotso. No.
Starting point is 00:49:18 I think he was one above these three players. That's. Yeah. So someone else threw like a trick play. Yep. They did the really special to Tom Brady that he missed. That's a element. That was it.
Starting point is 00:49:32 I don't know that. Yep. So Adelman and Amandala and Tony Easton. But I think I actually I gave that one away. Because we've had the better Super Bowl pass rating Bledsoe or Brogan, but I just gave it away. It was Grover was ever so slightly better, 57.2. And Bledsoe is 46.6.
Starting point is 00:49:49 Oh. All right. Fucking Blentzo is getting blasted by Reggie White. Oh, yeah. Have you seen that highlight where Reggie white? Yeah, the hump move. Yeah, where he basically literally like takes the right tab. He runs up on him, takes it with one hand.
Starting point is 00:50:04 It just throws him out of the way with one hand. It doesn't even have to use both hands. Move this guy off his spot. That's what Milton Williams is going to do to the Seattle guys. Maybe. I'm really, this is our path of victory. He just Reggie whites the game. I got one more for you.
Starting point is 00:50:22 Of the top five players in solo tackles in Patriots Super Bowl history, which position was more well represented? Linebackers or defensive backs? solo tackles D-Bs Yeah I mean you got to think a lot of those games Shootouts right
Starting point is 00:50:37 Except for that Rams game And both Rams games right Yeah my yeah Yeah Giants game A shootout Eagles won probably could go either way The two Giants games
Starting point is 00:50:52 Are probably a lot of linebacker tackles I think it was even Probably with the That Carolina The Bears game was definitely lifebackers just based on the time period, right? I don't know if they made any tackled in the Bears game.
Starting point is 00:51:10 Yeah, they got their asses kicked, though. I'm sure that was a defense. Yeah, I'm going to say D.Bs. Yeah, I agree. Steve? I went DPs as well. Yeah, that's correct. There are four DBs on the list.
Starting point is 00:51:25 Rodney Harrison, McCordy, Chung. Do you have? Greg's boy, Tylaw. And there are two linebackers on there. Let's name it that. Let's name them. It's got to be Hightower. Nope. Wow.
Starting point is 00:51:41 Bruske. Bruceki. Yeah, Bruceky and Brable. I'll be shocked if you get this other one. It's not Brable. Take of a guy. First dynasty or second dynasty. First dynasty.
Starting point is 00:51:51 I love just saying that, first of all. Just, we're so privileged. Does this come from our first dynasty or second dynasty? Play with our first dynasty. This is our third dynasty podcast. Yes, Ted Johnson. The guy ate up tackles. Ted Johnson and Tileau are both tied for fifth with 14 tackles.
Starting point is 00:52:07 Yeah, we'll get that coming, Eddie. So there you go. Right now. I've been watching all these games. That's right. Not recently, but generally. There's some Patriots. I mean, what other team can do like Super Bowl trivia, right?
Starting point is 00:52:21 That's good trivia. That was good. And it's kind of on our brand, you know. I'm not talking about the game coming up, but 2004. Exactly. Yeah. All right, boys,
Starting point is 00:52:35 anything else to share before we, do we want to do predictions or no? Yeah. We're all about putting down predictions and then never revisiting them to hold ourselves accountable. That's true. I like that.
Starting point is 00:52:48 Uh-huh. I'm pretty sure I pick the pages to win 14 games, just to spite you guys. You take my eyes. Wow. Look at the egg on my face. Proof it. I'm going to find it.
Starting point is 00:53:00 I was looking for, I was frantically looking for it before this episode. I bet you were, yeah. You probably have recorded it that just didn't release it since it could be. It could be. You can still. I think everything. But how is this going to get released, Andy? Is this going to get released like?
Starting point is 00:53:15 On the Super Bowl? On the Super Bowl, maybe? Six weeks after the Super Bowl. It takes a lot to edit you guys to make you sound reasonable. You don't edit it. You just fucking put it out there. Yeah. Definitely don't know.
Starting point is 00:53:30 Remember that bad edit I found on Greg? Vagely. He's listening to it. He's like, we should cut that. I was listening to it. I was like, oh, oh, yeah. Wasn't something like a festival? Of course it was, Greg.
Starting point is 00:53:43 It's you. Yeah. I'm pretty sure it was about Don Yead. It was. Oh, boy. All right, Greg. Give you your prediction. Your Don Yee prediction.
Starting point is 00:53:53 Wait. Can we do a segment called clueless anti-football pussy? maybe a question Wait, what was that from? John Gordon Yeah, that's John Gordon's emails Anti-Football Pussy Playing championship games in Dones
Starting point is 00:54:11 You heard that floated Oh, yeah Smoothest anti-football pussy move Yeah International game in France next year Yeah And anti-football pussy And also in Australia
Starting point is 00:54:23 Well, that was Not a anti-football Yeah specifically like brands yeah i agree i 100% agree come on that's clueless anti-american football pussy yes um should order to say fries bowl yeah yeah yeah i'm into this greg yeah um that's pretty good bet bad bunny clueless anti football pussy clueless anti football puttimore isn't i even american objectively though the fucking bad bunny versus
Starting point is 00:55:01 kid rock yeah like it sounds like a fucking kid's TV show that needs to be a celebrity death match my favorite joke was that kid rock is just another name for Epstein Island that's a good one you know kid rock grew up rich
Starting point is 00:55:24 oh yeah Yeah, yeah. Like a 5,000 square foot house on like six acres. They had like an apple orchard. Oh yeah. Yeah, he just had to like, yeah. He wanted to be the king of trailer. You just want to be a cowboy, baby.
Starting point is 00:55:40 Ball with the balls. Yeah, bow with a bow. That's like Eminem hated it because they grew up both in Michigan, not too far from each other. And Eminem grew up like literally in the hood. He's Clarence from a mile. Yeah. You went to a private high school The other thing I wanted to bring up
Starting point is 00:56:01 Just random shit is have you seen Byron Murphy The Second's tattoo on his neck No You're Google right now It's fucking insanity No I have you guys I don't have Google
Starting point is 00:56:12 Let's see Byron Murphy tattoo Is someone share their screen So I can see It's working on it Oh Oh Oh
Starting point is 00:56:22 the chosen one the chosen one no way I got you Tim I got you oh Andy has it all that's smart Andy don't let me share screen try it again it's like so for our
Starting point is 00:56:40 audio medium because yeah I've been told multiple times this is an audio medium he has chosen from about cheekbone to cheekbone I mean this man is all neck like the whole yeah his neck and the side of the whole lid.
Starting point is 00:56:54 And the one goes from like on the very bottom of his chin to like below the Adams arm's arm of his hair, you know? Like that thing is a big red one and then Chosen's in like a black font over it. That is. He's got some crazy dreads. He's got the two like lines through his eyebrows on both sides. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:13 Double lines, double eyebrows. Double lines on both. If he plays basketball, he doesn't call next. He calls neck. that thing is huge dude yeah that tattoo must have hurt like a motherfucker dude dude on that neck apparently those on that right now you're at adam's apple i have my brother-in-law has a neck tattoo and he said the next not that bad is the elbows anything near the bones or the worst yeah but like what about his i guess he doesn't really have an adam's apple i don't see
Starting point is 00:57:44 it's like do you have any tattoos i do have one and how bad was it it's like right here on the side of my arm. Oh, okay, yeah. So it doesn't even hurt. No. Well, that's what I thought. That is insane necktack, Greg. Yeah. Oh, yeah. He has a little shirt. What does that say? He's covered. I don't know what it's it. Isaiah? Isaiah, yeah. Wait. He just covered. Angel. I say,an. No, I think it's Isaiah. There's an age there. Okay. Yeah, that is. Yeah. Could be. These look like a.
Starting point is 00:58:20 That could be close to eye. Satan. Yeah, that it stacks of money up. An angel right in the middle wearing like DJ. Can we get a zoom in, Andy? It's something over? It's a YouTube. It's still from YouTube videos. Oh, got you.
Starting point is 00:58:35 Okay. I think that says humble on his arm. Yeah. Even though it says chosen one on his neck. So I've gotten some mixed messages here. Humble chosen one. That is so fun. What's it say on the stomach?
Starting point is 00:58:49 That's what I'm trying to figure. Something over. See if that. Blank, blank, A-L-T-M-over. Mom? Come on, think you're good at... The entire loyalty, loyalty. Money shit.
Starting point is 00:59:03 It says loyalty because it says over underneath it. Oh, yeah. Loyalty over something. Yeah, loyalty over. What does his shoulder say, time something? Don't know. P-R-I-C? Yeah, something.
Starting point is 00:59:19 Yeah. I mean, this is much. man. This man is his artwork. He's artwork. The thing on the shoulder
Starting point is 00:59:28 might be like a fraternity or something. Could be. Speaking of shocking bodies, I watched Do Your Job in like the first scene is like Belichick
Starting point is 00:59:41 walking into the facility and his tits are so fucking big, dude. You know, like some angles that you're like, Belichin's,
Starting point is 00:59:49 I was like, holy shit. Dude, it's Glyneocomastia, you know, it affects a lot of men that are older. Here to tell us the word, Tim? I just hear it on the radio all the time.
Starting point is 01:00:09 Like, Felger's thing is, he's like, gynochlamassia, known as man boobs. Jesus, it's called mobs. He would know. Funny thing for you, Andy. You know how like sometimes you tell a joke around your kid that you think is funny and like only he hears it. They don't understand it. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:28 So I was like taking care of Calvin the day, just playing on the belly. And I had Felger and Maz just like playing on my phone. And I also have this app that just does like, it's like a soundboard for fart noises. And he was like, he was like, dad, dad, I want to listen to fart noises. I was like, son, you are listening to fart noises. him. And he just looked at me like, I don't get that. But I was like, and you can see her, you fucking love that.
Starting point is 01:00:56 I fucking nailed it. Love it. Oh, Jesus. All right, so are we going to get to predictions? I mean, I feel like that's probably a place to end right there. Belgram out of the record, 2420, Pats, walk off, touchdown, Drake May, to Pop Douglas.
Starting point is 01:01:15 All right, Steve. Okay. I want to go second to last. Tim. All right. My prediction is that McDaniels will be in his bag. He's going to call the game of his life. And the Patriots are going to get the pressure on Darnold.
Starting point is 01:01:37 So that puts them in those third and longs that just work in our favor. It's going to, they're going to, Rabel's going to design a game plan so that it's going to rely on Sam Donald, not that running game. They're going to take the running game out, and they're going to take JSN out. I'm going to say 2010 Patriots. Ooh. All right.
Starting point is 01:02:01 Steve? I think that Donald doesn't complete a pass until six minutes left in the first half, right? Wow. And then the Seahawks find their rhythm, actually a little bit. and then, you know, we find ourselves down a little bit, and then Drake Maly's a good touchdown drive, and then it's 28, 24, and then Donald throws us this stupid fucking pass
Starting point is 01:02:31 down the right sideline to Jake Bobo. They, like, fucking boppels it and catches it. And then they get the ball, no timeouts at the goal line, and they're like, we're fucking running it, and Bill Williams just boom, blows through. TFL game off. Yeah, three timeouts in two minutes. We never make it this easy.
Starting point is 01:02:55 Honestly, that was a great, like, M. Night Shamelon that you had there, Steve, at the end because I was like, I was going to say the same thing as 2014. Yeah. But they run it, they still don't get it. If they're in that same situation again, they have to run it. They can't not run it. They can't call a pass. They have.
Starting point is 01:03:12 It's like their higher hands are about. We're going to know this could be a run. That right guard saw. he busts through tackles K-9 which the other Russ Wilson didn't complete a pass until six minutes left in the first half
Starting point is 01:03:28 in the first half Seattle and you look through their games like they're typically like highest out of shitty teams and then pull away in the second half. Yeah, why don't we pull up what we do in the first half I feel like we've had maybe 10 points
Starting point is 01:03:45 in first quarter. Yeah, and in the first half of all the fucking Super Bowls we've been in. I still think the Patriots haven't scored a first quarter touchdown, right? It would be sweet if Drake May did it immediately. So here you go. Yeah. 5510 Patriots is my prediction. Are you that serious?
Starting point is 01:04:02 That's the biggest. He did predict the 14 wins, so I guess we got to go with that. Yeah, I mean, are you serious? The biggest win in Super Bowl history is 5510. I think it was 49ers over the Broncos. Yep. And it's going to be a laffer like that. May he's going to throw up for like five or six touchdowns.
Starting point is 01:04:19 And he won't deserve to get the MVP. Over under 250 yards for Drake. Over. He's going to double that. The only thing. The charge of defense is very similar as I understand it. Like they're both like Minter and McDonald both come from the same like tree. So I think it's helpful that Drake has seen it.
Starting point is 01:04:42 And like in that second half of that charges game, they sort of figured it out. Yeah. played all right. Besides, it's always been the turnover. He's played all right outside of turnovers in like crazy weather. And that turnover is really just that one game against the Texans and their edge rushers were just...
Starting point is 01:04:59 He fumbles against charges too, right? Or you have a pick in the first Yeah, it's a deflected pick, though. That one's not really his pick. Eh, pig is a pick. They are predicting possible rain. So that's the only thing that could
Starting point is 01:05:14 muck things up a little bit. But if we have a good weather, I'm pretty confident that Patriots can do it. Well, I think that all championship games should be playing a dome. That's the one time that I will agree. It's not
Starting point is 01:05:32 Foll pussy tastes. Yeah. All right, well, I think we've covered everything. Gentlemen, enjoy the weekend. Enjoy the game. Shout out Malcolm Butler. Shout to Malcolm Butler. And we will see you Next week, next time on the Patriot Dynasty Podcast. Damn later.
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