PBD Podcast - Actor Ethan Suplee | PBD Podcast | EP 147 |

Episode Date: April 14, 2022

In this episode, Patrick Bet-David is joined by Adam Sosnick and Actor Ethan Suplee to discuss being a child actor, extreme weight loss, and much more... TOPICS Why Rehab Finally Worked For Ethan Suplee Ethan Suplee explains whether it's harder to quit heroin or lose 300 pounds What Broke Ethan Suplee From His Addiction To Heroin Ethan Suplee's favorite movie he's ever acted in Ethan Suplee explains the direction of the country & how it has affected Hollywood Elon Musk is going to buy CNN Ethan Suplee reveals the best one take actors How Ethan Suplee recreated his brand Ethan Suplee explains how Disney has been canceled over the years Can the Rock become president? Ethan Suplee is an American film and television actor. He is best known for his roles in the films American History X, Remember the Titans, John Q, The Wolf of Wall Street, Without a Paddle, and several of Kevin Smith's films as well as Frankie in Boy Meets World and Randy Hickey in My Name Is Earl. Follow Ethan on Twitter https://bit.ly/3M37wp8 Follow Ethan on IG https://bit.ly/3O6ZVrv Text: PODCAST to 310.340.1132 to get added to the distribution list Adam “Sos” Sosnick has lived a true rags to riches story. He hasn’t always been an authority on money. Connect with him on his weekly SOSCAST here: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLw4s_zB_R7I0VW88nOW4PJkyREjT7rJic Patrick Bet-David is the founder and CEO of Valuetainment Media. He is the author of the #1 Wall Street Journal bestseller Your Next Five Moves (Simon & Schuster) and a father of 2 boys and 2 girls. He currently resides in Ft. Lauderdale, Florida.   To reach the Valuetainment team you can email: [e-mail] --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/pbdpodcast/support

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David Burrowski. David Burrowski. He's a... He's a... I know. You know who he is. How do you know who he is? Because I follow this kind of stuff.

Yeah. You follow the... Follow mathematician theological philosophers. Yeah. He met Wizzelinski not mine. Of course. Yeah. What do you mean with Zalinsky? By the way, in the Ukraine.

In that world. That's why do we bring that up? In that world, David is like. He's in a man with life. We are alive. Okay. Yeah, so get your facts right. Anyways, today's guest.

Today's guest. Today's guest. Today's guest is Ethan Sopli. The best way to describe Ethan Sopli is, I've watched, you know, man, what's it called, remember the Titans, I don't know how many times I watch. I've heard it often, you quote, over the Titans.

I told the kids, my boys, it was one of the mandatory movies to watch before they get to watch any other movies. I sat him down and I hadn't watched remember the Titans. Billon is in love with the movie, which is great, that's a great movie. But here's a lineup. You've done movies with denzel three three movies

with denzel Edward norton and american history x which is one of the craziest movies of all time sick movie incredible acting one of the best monologues that one whole scene Johnny depp uh... leo gaslyn kutcher judla uh... mocana Hay. Mocana Hay, I can go on and on and on. No, if I worked with Mocana Hay.

Yeah, we'll go for Wall Street. Yeah, so, we're in the Wolf of Wall Street. Leo, I forgot about it. And I forgot that I worked with Mocana Hay. You know how it Tuesday? Just, just this morning I was sitting there listening to on repeat, Aino Mountain High, with my kid, my kid was dancing. I listened to it over and over,

and maybe we'll perform it today, I don't know. But he's done a lot of different things, but most recently, and not recently, 2021 years, you went from 530 pounds to 260 pounds, lost 1000 pounds give or take, because you would lose, you would get, you've spoken about this openly, and we'll get into that as well but an absolute start of a guy

Ethan thank you for joining the podcast. Thanks for having me guys. Yes. The podcast started 10 minutes ago. We left off my name is Earl. That's where you'd see him on TV all the time with was that Jason Lee? Yeah. What a guy. I'd be. I grew up on that show. Yeah, really. Yeah. All the time, all the time. 100%. In Norway? Yeah. We got a Norway.

We got fans in Norway. Just surprising. How? Good dog. Yeah. Well, we were working on a guy on a different issue this morning because of David Burlinski yesterday. They was trying to walk through the back and guys like, yeah, go ahead, go behind me.

Like, hi, get up and let this man get through and say, but anyway, so it's good to have you home, man. It's good to have you home. It's good to be here. Can I take a crazy story? Yeah, I wanna hear the story. To see your story. This story scares me.

So it's 1999. No, I'm telling you, I'm timing it because it's like late 2000, early 2001. I'm in debt $49,000, breakup, girl, nothing's going right in my life. I'm thinking I'd gone back to the army. I've been out of the army for like a year and a half. I'm drinking like you wouldn't believe. I'm trying to break records and I broke a lot of records in the army, but I'm going all out, right, partying. And I'm coming back from, I decided to guard Nubidan or its Dublin's or its a palace or one of those kids, it's not the other one in the city of industry. What

was that one? The Century Club. This is all in LA, by the way. I'm in Hollywood. And you live in LA, to be clear? I did. I would never have gone as east as the Century Club. So it must have been one of these other places. It was. It wasn't century club. So I'm coming up. And is it fountain? I don't know what that fountain and last, that whole, when you go this way,

you hit the five freeway, there's a chevron right there. And I go to the chevron. It's two o'clock in the morning, maybe three o'clock in the morning. I am gone. Okay, but I gotta fill out the gas tank. Okay. And I get out and I see you

Like hey and you're gone He is I don't know what you were on but I'm like dude this guy can't even walk straight. I can walk straight I'm like you good. I'm good. I was a mess. So that was that was an end of 2000 2001 like shit. I freaking see you everywhere. It's like, what's up bro? And then we just went on a separate way. So it was just praoed it up for a minute. And I was like, yeah, it was a 30 second conversation. And then I just, I left because,

but yeah, that was in the late 2000, early 2001. I don't know if you were partying back there. That was moments before my last trip to rehab. Really? That was moments before last trip to rehab. Really? That was moments before last trip to rehab. And the last one was the last one that worked. That was the last time. What was different between that one and the other ones?

You know, I don't really know. I think the difference was, I had been to rehab a few times based on like friends sitting me down, one of my parents sitting me down and going, we're really concerned about you. And me going like, okay, I'll go do what you're telling me to do. And the last time I went, I woke up one day

and was like, I don't wanna do this anymore. This is no longer fun. What did you go to rehab for? Heroin. Boom. Not even drinking, eating, all that. No, I never went to rehab for eating. I didn't even know those existed.

I think they do. I probably should have gone, but that took a little bit longer. I had to get sober before I could like, actually work on my health and my physicality. And what was, I'm sorry, good. No, I mean, heroin, holy shit. What was that like?

In the, in the, in the earlier 90s, I was given viking in as a prescription. And the first time I took viking in, I just felt like this is my auntie to present. This is my, this is, this is the state that I feel more comfortable in. And so when that ran out, I got another prescription. I eventually started, they had, you know, storefronts in the 90s down near downtown where you could go and buy vikin for like a dollar a pill. In LA. Yeah. And then eventually got hard to buy there. So,

you know, you get creative and you wind up like, well, you wind up finding out that heroin is just like the best form of vikin' and it's much easier to get than vikin' too, in fact, so that's how I wound up on the heroin. Did you get a full-on actor in Hollywood at this point? Yeah, full-on. Yeah, like not, you know, small roles, like you're doing movies.

Hollywood. Yeah. Ethan, is it easier? Was it the drug connection that had happened through Hollywood parties? Or was it no it was outside friends, you know other contacts there were no I mean You know what I'm saying like is the influence I'm making I would apart Hollywood. Oh, try some of this. Okay. Let's try No, no, that's more cocaine. Yeah, cocaine is probably, I don't know what's acceptable now. I've been sober 20 years. So I have no idea what the kids are doing now.

And I would be terrified to be entering into drug use now with the amount of overdose Thursdays, with fentanyl, mixed in with everything like that. Scares the shit out of me. But I never walked into people doing heroin at a party. It was it was pretty taboo. Yeah, by the way, just just out of curiosity, what was harder to do? Was it was a tougher to give up heroin or was it tougher to lose the weight? Which one was tougher and were both motivations the same as a like fear of death? Is it a girl in your life, is it family,

is it, I just got a change, is it a spiritual moment, what was it, what were the differences? Well, I think about it in different ways. I think that drugs are not easy to give up, but it's a kind of a black or white thing for me. And this is not necessarily for everyone, but for me, I am an addictive person.

So I have to be all or nothing. I'm either using drugs and very quickly heading to death, or I'm not, and I'm very quickly heading to a healthier, happier life. You can't dabble at all. You're a zero or I cannot. That's just your being, no. I don't have a glass of wine on New Year's

or anything like that. The problem with stuff like heroin is, and it's not super widely talked about, it's like the thing that I liked about it was it actually changed my brain chemistry, right? So whatever sense of happiness you get from succeeding at a goal you set for yourself or anything, right, is now being given to you by this drug.

So when you stop taking it, your body doesn't know how to do that. So I was, you have these ex-junkies who are perpetually depressed for years. It takes a long time for your body to get back to normal. It's not just like get it out of your system and you're fine, right? You're constantly thinking my happiness, whether it's subliminal or, or you might not be having these thoughts analytically,

but the sense is like I cannot function like a normal person without this stuff because your body doesn't react any longer like a normal person. So it takes a long time to build those systems back up. The difference with food is you can't be black or white. You cannot just quit eating. You have to eat or you're going to die, right? So it's actually way more

complicated. It's a lifetime process. There is no goal that I get to this way and I'm done. That does not exist for me with food. And while I want to think about drug use also as a lifetime process, it gets to be so as long as you're not doing it, you know, I'm not my wife drinks alcohol. I am never tempted to have a glass of wine with her ever. I wouldn't go sit in a bar by myself. I wouldn't do that. I'm not going back to some dude's hotel room

to watch him do cocaine. That's not something I would ever put myself in that situation, right? But I have to eat and so every night while I'm eating to watch him do cocaine. That's not something I would ever put myself in that situation, right? But I have to eat, and so every night while I'm eating, and I'm regulating what I'm eating, there is that thing that's under the surface of, like, put more oil on it, put more sugar on it,

you know, double your portion. So that's a more difficult thing, I I think to deal with long-term. Have you got into a point where food is now just not, you know, like yesterday we were eating with David Berlensky. I took him to Casa de Angelo and I'm like, so what's your favorite food? I eat the same thing every day. That can't be. No, I eat the same thing every day. What do you eat for breakfast? Two egg whites. Two egg whites. And sometimes I say, sometimes I would eat for lunch. I eat protein, whatever. I would eat for a dinner. Burger, everything. I said every day he says I eat this. I care less what he ate. I don't. We're the nicest Italian restaurant. What do you want?

Octopus. I've never had it before. You've never had octopuses. He lives in Paris. Yeah. So it has food for you because one connection some people make that I think is very interesting. I'm a foodie. Oh my God, we got to go eat some sushi. We got to go eat some. And I mentioned food is not one method of entertainment. Food is not no longer for me like I'm looking forward to it. It's just what my body needs to eat and it's become very regimented.

Is that the distinction you have to make? That's what I try to do. Now listen, I too love to eat and I think that as I got healthier and tried to take more responsibility with how I interact with food, I became way more interested in very specific types of food. Like I flew to China once to eat peaking duck at this little to China wants to eat peaking duck at this little lukewarm roast duck. It's in an alley and it's like the best peaking duck on earth apparently. Like I've done stuff like that.

You just went to China for that. To eat. Come on. I got the duck, I'm out. Well, I know. And then I also, you know, skewered scorpions that were fried on the street and stuff like that. Like I'm interested in food in that way,

but the thing I've also found is, I do eat mostly the same stuff, right? All the time, I always have way protein and water for breakfast. That is what I eat for breakfast every day. And water, not milk. Although I will say there's this new fair life protein drink that's 30 grams of protein and I think it is made with milk

and I believe way protein comes from milk. So there's that, but I don't put almond milk or anything like that with my protein powder. You know, moderation I think is the key to winning for the rest of my life. So I don't want to cut off everything and say, you know, if I'm in Rome, I'm not going to eat the pasta dish that I love, right?

I can't do that, but I'm going to have that one time and then the rest of the time that I'm in Rome, I'm going to eat the way I eat normally, which is fish or meat and vegetables. What's your favorite food? Like if you were to say my favorite favorite food is like I would say it's Rormis Abzi, it's a Persians do. What's your favorite food? I mean if I was gonna say my favorite Iranian food, I would say Tadiq and I would want something really juicy to pour on it, you know what I mean? Yeah, I've been to a Raffis place. Is that in Glendale? Yeah.

Yeah. The owner is my best man of my wedding. Really? Yeah. It's great food. Yeah, phenomenal food. Yeah. The best. Yeah. So what's your favorite, though? What's your favorite food? My favorite is tied up somehow with this memory of when I was five

and I showed up at my grandparents' house in Vermont and they said, God, you're so fat, you're going on a diet. And then my grandfather cooked what I remembered being my favorite meal, which was lasagna, and they gave me a quarter of that. They said you get this much money. Hey, worth in slice. And so for the rest of my life, I was like,

that's my favorite food. I don't think it really is. Five years old, because I've read this before, that it's kind of triggered where you're at with all your weight loss. I don't want to blame them. I don't think they really, their intentions were good and clean.

But also, honestly, if they were the same age today and looked at the landscape of childhood obesity, they would have been like, you are fine. How heavy I was at five. I was a chubby five-year-old. I wasn't an obese five-year-old, but they were shocked at my appearance and put me on this crazy diet

and then convinced my parents to put me on diets for the rest of my adolescence. I would say my favorite food, the food that I've eaten the most in the past 10 years is Lebanese. Lebanese is my favorite food, the food that I've eaten the most in the past 10 years is Lebanese. Lebanese is my favorite food. Lebanese. It's very clean.

You can get a healthy meal. It's not got a bunch of other garbage in it. I saw the three hour podcast you did with Rogan. Yeah. And the first hour you guys just went in on food and dishes and this and Pat just literally had how many dinners did you have with Rogan? How's the house weekend?

We were together for Friday night and sat at until like four o'clock in the morning. Stake dinners though. Cal Ford steak house. Oh my. And we ate like a three in the morning. So imagine eating a fat steak at three o'clock. That's not the worst thing you can do. We went to sleep.

Yeah. Yeah. But you guys went off about how he said I could just eat steak and vegetables and that's it. I'm went to sleep. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, but you guys went off about how he said, I could just eat steak and vegetables, and that's it, I'm good to go. But pasta, like we had pasta and steak last night. No, okay. Well, yeah, but see, there's even,

there's a universe now that the landscape of diets and diet fads gets really crazy. So for a long time, I was convinced, if I just don't eat carbs, I'll lose weight and I'll be fine. But it got to the point where, because I can overeat, and that is really my predilection, is to over consume. I'll overeat steaks.

I'll eat 5,000 calories in a steak and only burn 3,000 calories that day, and actually gain weight. So that's not a good solution for me. So is it more important to portion control for eat healthier for me? Okay, there could be a guy who's out there who won't eat five thousand calories in stakes and all he has to do is cut carbs out of his diet and he'll be fine. That's possible. And you see this kid over here on your left that guy carb loads. Right. Like he's like he eats a sandwich with the bread

as the meat and then more bread. I'm like, what are you doing? He gets the club sandwich and removes the turkey. Exactly. Talk some sense in this guy. That's turkey, half turkey. When you're 23 years old, that works. When you're 33, you're gonna be a fat ass.

I gotta enjoy it while I can. Unbelievable. Got it, enjoy it while you're loading. Carve loads, sure. Right on. So go back to, we were saying like the motive because I feel like you said something, I had a friend of mine.

And by the way, we had Kevin Farley here last week, Chris Farley's brother. And obviously we know what happened with Chris. He was also heroin and they tried to get to him over and over and over again and then they eventually couldn't. 33 years old, boom, it's done and we lost one the greatest of all

time. But what was, because I had a friend that went through it and we talked about it with Kevin and his deal was vikered and he couldn't give it up, but he was taking 25 to 50 a day. It wasn't like it was taking one or two. He's taking 25. I've seen him take 10 like this and just put in his mouth like it's candy, right? He was doing that. And he couldn't go without it. He was addicted to it. We took him to a Tarzana rehabilitation, said, you know, which there's a Tarzana rehab center. And he will have to go through for two weeks, came out. He was good. Boom. A week later, he's reading the Bible, relapsed, done, and we get the phone call. And the rest of it. It's a good friend of mine. Okay. You're saying I'm a friend of the world. Yeah Okay, best friend of the world. My best friend of the world. Anyway, so, but the point is, I kept trying to get his motive

and it has to be him. Yeah, so he was, he was marrying a girl that he loved. I'm like, is the love that's strong that you're willing to change for her? I don't know if it was. You know, he had reasons with his dad and his mom. He had a brother, you know, I'm like, maybe career, maybe identity, maybe it's, what,

like we took him to church to see maybe churches, because you know, a lot of times it's church, a lot of people have given up a lot of drugs and alcohol because of a connection that had spiritual connection to Catholics, Mormonism, Scientology, Christian. It doesn't matter, there's so many great stories. Even Scientology has that one place in what he called it, the Arrowhead.

I think it's Arrowhead, right? Like where there's a facility there that you go through drugs or rehab that you go through, and it's actually very effective. I've heard a formal out of different people that it's work for them. But there has to be something on the individual, right? Nobody can impose it.

You say, you better get it done. What's the matter with you gonna You're going to kill yourself. That's not going to work. What was your... So, you know, it's hard to say because in this conversation, you have people who are listening, who are going like, I know a guy, who I need that guy to have whatever I had. And I just don't know if there's a formula to create that in an individual. I think it's possible to present data and solutions and like when you're ready, we're here, you know,

I've got a plan that you can follow, but I do believe until the individual is ready themselves, I had multiple interventions run on me. Nothing, I would go to sleep at night for a couple of years, believing I was gonna die in my sleep and was just like, well, that's what it is. And none of that changed and I woke up one day and was just, I was in need of change. I woke up and I could not exist the way I was existing anymore. And I'm so thankful that I didn't die before that day happened.

And then likewise, food and that health in my weight was another thing that no matter what evidence people presented to me and what solutions were presented to me. I didn't change until I was ready to change having been a drug addict and morbidly obese. I've had many parents say we need help with our kid and this and that and and there was a period in time where I would go and talk to people and talk at schools and stuff like that and here and and I'm happy to talk and share my experience but sitting down with one-on-one and and trying to convince them to and talk at schools and stuff like that. And I'm happy to talk and share my experience, but sitting down with one-on-one and trying to convince them

to change that I've always had failures with. I just, and I've always seen failures with this, I don't know that it's possible to convince somebody to change until they're ready to change. Now, that's not to say somebody comes and says, I'm ready to change and you go, great, I can help you. That's possible, but I have not seen a lot of success with like, we need to handle this guy,

we need to fix it. I told it, agree with you. I'm not asking that. What it was exactly. What I'm asking is like, so for me, what I've seen is it's a girl. You're in love with a girl. That changes, right? It's a loss of a loved one.

You lose a parent. You lose somebody. You're like, dude, I got this. Or for me, my biggest, like how I change, dude, if you had asked my counselor in high school said, I feel sorry for your dad having heart attacks, but I would also have heart attacks if I had a son like you. In high school, there's not a single soul that said I was gonna amount to anything in life, right? So I'm not the guy that's supposed to win.

So the only guy that said, listen, you're not a guy that's gonna do anything with you. I want you to go join the army, guy named Jesus Girol. Like he was a recruiting station down from Glendale High School because I went to Glendale High School. So he was right off of Colorado and Verdugo. Hey, Susette, hey Pat, I think you need to join the Army.

You got a uniform. You got something to do. You're going to travel. They're going to pay for it. You're going to be able to get the hell out of him. Like, oh, that's the selling point to me. The selling point was you can get the hell out of here and just go, and I'm like, I'm in, right?

I went in. Then I got out and I'm still, you know, I'm, you know, determined to make money. I got dreams. I want to do stuff. I'm a performer. I'm not like a know, you know, you know, determined to make money. I got dreams. I want to do stuff. I'm a performer. I'm not like a guy that's sitting around not doing shit, but my dad had the heart attack. I went to the hospital.

I saw my dad on his deathbed. He lost 40 pounds and they kicked me out of the hospital because they were not treating them good. And the ladies are like, who are you? What do you think you are? This is a government, you're not paying taxpayers a paying for this. Did you pay for this? I'm sorry, you can't talk to us like that.

They came and they kicked me out of the place. I'm in the car, my four focus. I'm crying like a little baby. And it's as if like this, the next day, I'm a whole different human being. I came to work and it was done. I wouldn't work in 80 to 100. I said, I'm not gonna stop till that guy doesn't have to worry

about a single thing about money. And it was game over. It's a 180 human being, one minute to the next minute. My friends would call and we'd go out and say, we missed the old pattern. I said, dude, I don't miss the old pattern. I like the new pattern. So you can reminisce about the old pattern.

That guy ain't coming back. I'm committed to this. But it was a moment with my father. And I've seen this happen with a lot of people in my life. I'm 43 right now. You're 1976, may 25th or may 26. You're 25th. 25th. So I'm 43. now, you're 1976, may 25th or may 26, you're 25. So I'm 43, so you see at 43,

you see different things on what causes people to change. What was yours? For, for, and I probably don't make it long-term with the drugs without my wife, also, like in fairness. But the biggest change I saw was me getting a taste of what my life could be like with my wife Who's now my wife she wasn't my wife then and wanting it to be better and that was it That was all it took for me to go like oh, I'm never I'm never turning back. Yeah, so how long you been with her? 20 years it's him and you're you I'm just sorry. I you way bigger when you met her you were, I'm just, I'm sorry, you way bigger

when you met her. Yeah. I met her when I was 16. Fell in love with her when I was 16, was in the friend zone for a long time. And finally, we started to have a relationship. And it was like the moment we started to have a relationship, I went, oh my God, I wanna make sure this lasts.

How do I make sure this lasts? What's the thing I can do to be the best partner to her I can possibly be? And that was the biggest change I can make. So it seems like it wasn't once that the connection really happened, boom. Almost like Pat's story with his dad. You...

I feel bad relaying that because I can't lend people my life to inspire them. You know what I mean? But that's not how I process it. The way I process it is, is, you know, the same goes the other way. Like, you know, a chance pulmonary, there's a video that's going viral with chats and he kept it hard posted it. And it's a sick video.

He said, and I shared it on Instagram today. He said, you know, in life, you know, you can, you can try so hard if you're a winner to get your friends to win. You can do it. You can do it. Come on, blah, blah, blah. He says you can put all your energy.

If that guy doesn't want to do it, you can't do shit for that guy. He said, however, however, he said a great person trying to lift somebody that has no desire, won't work. He said, however, he said a great person trying to lift somebody that has no desire won't work. He said however a Person with potential who has the potential a bad person Can definitely demotivate and pull you down to their level that is affected with everybody, right? So crabs in a bucket. What but the point is I think you know finding the right person that you say

I'm gonna do it for this person, or finding a motivation that's gonna be for that person. There is a message there. There is a message to, you know, say, you know, I'm gonna do it for this person, because sometimes, some personalities, we are more, like, you know how there's guys that like to fight, and then there's guys that like to stop fights.

You know, there's guys that are like, hey, what'd you say? Come on, let's go listen. And then there's guys like, I'm sorry, did you touch my friend? You touch my friend? Are you out of your, you, you hit them? And then boom, you're fighting for somebody, right? The flat carry your mentality of people, if they have that, they need to have something to fight for you themselves. I don't know if that makes sense or not.

No, it's totally, and I like what you said about having a church, having a support group, finding a group of people that are like-minded. So if you are alone, if you are struggling with getting motivated, I think there are groups out there that you can go and become a member, even if it's just a gym, and you're like, I'm saying hi to that dude every day and that's who I'm gonna be accountable. I don't know their names. It's crazy. I don't know anything.

I wanna see, I wanna make contact with that person, say hello and we're both gonna nod and we're gonna know we're doing this together. To some degree, right? I do agree. I don't think where no man is in Ireland. There's beautiful poem, no man is in Ireland. And basically it's like no matter,

and I believe in individualism. I am an individualist for sure, but that said, none of us function on our own. We're all connected to other people. And there's a symbiotic relationship that we have with other people. No matter what, that's how we are succeeding and surviving and all of that. Let me add one thing about Chaz, you kid? No, no, good. You're choking up.

It's water. So for you, your motivation was your dead, right? For you, your motivation was your wife or the chemistry that you had with a wife and you didn't want to lose that feeling. It might, for me, it's not always someone else. It sometimes comes down to what's going on internally. So for me, Chaz, in the movie The Bronx Tale, and I still, like, the fact that I met Chaz

and it was on the podcast, it was the most surreal moment, and he gave me the card, and on the freaking card, it had the quote that I would write every single fucking day for years, and it would say, the saddest thing in life is wasted talent. So for me, it was more internal, like my fear of mediocrity. I did not want to be average. I knew that I had gifts, whether that was with business or sports or what I used to do, stay in a comedy

or like whatever I did, like my biggest motivation was like, just don't be average. Don't just be just a run of the mill, blah, blah blah blah person. So I knew matter whatever it was that I ended up being like, do it. So to people out there, find that motivation.

Yeah. And like the coming full circle and the fact that you brought up Chaz, I love that guy. I mean, in my wallet today is the card he gave me. You're comfort, I'm sorry. The saddest thing in life is I watch his show. Have you seen the show? Have you seen the chasers show? So I watched his show because you know Bronx tale started off as a Broadway show And then it became a movie and I think Bob saw it at the Neurosot and is like, Hey, what about if we do this

And I play the father your father and you play, you know, Sonny and I saw him the play for Chas I'm not even kidding with you your father and you play, you know, Sonny, and I saw him the play for Chas. I'm not even kidding with you. He does the entire movie beginning to the end, every line and he acts everybody in the movie with one share. If you've never, I want to, someone fall out of the by Lasola's to watch this,

it was like a thousand, 200 people in the room. I say, you know how, you know, they say you touch your phone 150 times a minute or whatever the number is. I didn't touch my phone once for 90 minutes. Right. And I sat down like, I cannot believe, I didn't touch my phone.

It was a re, the performance was insane. You felt like you were in the streets with them. So Chaz, Chaz props to him for what he's doing. But the respect man for where you're at, you know, for some that, can you, can you put up a picture of, by the way, there's a bother you when you see pictures of before and after, doesn't know anything. Okay, put pictures of Ethan.

When just, just go images, just go to images. There's one picture up there. It doesn't bother me at all. Okay, that's that right there. I can hold the picture. The hot picture with you, your shirt off, the flexing. Well, there's one that up there, it doesn't bother me at all. Okay, that's dead right there. I'm not gonna hold back. Okay. The hot picture with you, with your shirt off, the flexing. Well, there's one that's pretty good.

There's other ones I don't like. There's other ones I don't like. Damn. What picture are you most proud of? And what are you most ashamed, I don't wanna say ashamed, but I'm not. I'm never wanna go back to that. I'm not really ashamed, it's just such a bizarre time

in my life that I just really didn't care about myself at all, you know. Is that the same human being? Yeah, look at that. Technically, I mean, there's parts of my brain that haven't regenerated, you know, the skin is... Louis Lastic. Yeah, right? What a character in that movie.

What a frickin', he made it by the way. I mean, that every team needs a guy like that. He's a unifier. You played a role of a unifier.movie. Favorite movie you've ever done. You've done a lot. What's your favorite one that you've done that you're both most proud of as well as you had the most fun?

Well, the most fun is a tricky one, but the one I'm most proud of for sure as far as a movie, there's a wolf of Wall Street is really great, but also cold mountain, I thought it was like a really, really great movie. The most fun I had was either wolf of Wall Street or a movie called Without a Paddle, which was a very early thought. Without a paddle, my God, I forgot.

What song was it? But my body is at the one, but yeah, I don't see nothing wrong. I'm on the grind. I got a bumper. I'm going to go. Is that the movie where they're called? Oh my God. It's a hilarious. Larry's out of paddle.

What was that? Oh, it's a hilarious movie. Me and Abraham Ben Ruby played brothers and were're chasing these three dudes around the forest. With Seth Green? Yeah, it was awesome. I remember that, that's shared in here. I remember this movie, yeah, of course. Hilarious movie by the way.

Haven't seen one, when did this movie come? Already 2000? It was almost 20 years ago. 2004 there, yeah. And then Matthew, this guy was taken over Hollywood from then gone. I don't, what happened to Matthew Lillard. I don't know. He was on a TV show recently called that I did a couple episodes of and I'm

blanking on what it's good girls. He was on good girls. But that happens to actors too. We go and do a TV show. And if you're not watching the TV show, it's as though we disappeared off the face of the year. Yeah, that's true. We got to talk about it, remember the Titans. Why is though we disappeared off the face of the year. Yeah, that's that's true. Um, we got to talk about member of the Titans. Why is that so important to you? I mean, the thing about that was the team, the chemistry, the race relations that took place in the 60s. First of all, like what year was this? You know, when the whole BLM thing was going on with the protesting, I tweeted out, I said, America, go watch this movie.

No, literally, I said, go watch this movie today No, literally. I did. I said, go watch this movie today. Everybody, this movie needs to go viral and everybody needs to watch it again. It's two years ago. It's two years ago, yeah. Because the story, it was so much about what was going on two years ago. You know, this whole thing that, you know,

hey, you're wide, you're black, hey, buses, no, no, you guys are all mixing up, you're all going to sitting together and he takes them and says, hey, look what happened to these soldiers, they fought together, your black, your buses, and none of you guys are all mixing up. You're all going to sitting together and he takes them and says, hey, look what happened to these soldiers. They fought together. Nobody kid if you're white and black. And then they came back and to them racism was gone, but they came to a group of people that racism still existed.

And then they're kind of like, oh, shit, this is going to be kind of awkward. And that's kind of what's going on, right? You kind of like, dude, I don't even think about race. I don't even think about the fact that we have any different, I'm freaking it from Iran, believe me, when 9-11 happened and everyone's looking, I'm in the financial industry,

where are you from, I'm from Iran. Did you say you're, I was born in racing in Iran. You're born in racing in Iran? Yes. So you're from the same neck of the, was that that guy that did what he did? Yeah, kind of, but I'm different. Very much kind of, right?

It's like, it's like, I was kind of. Yeah, right. He's like, 1,000 miles away. Yeah, yeah. To the idiots out there, you're just an around guy from the Middle East. Yeah, but to the average guy, like, well, you kind of look weird. You don't look like normal like us.

You know, you look like one of these guys. But about as close as an Italian. But as close to an Italian, I'm 18% in Italian, because you did that test and you're not French. I did the test. I found out someone hooked up with an Italian, 18%. But everything else was pretty accurate. But you know, you see that movie and you're not French. I did the test. I found out someone hooked up with an Italian, 18%. But everything else was pretty accurate.

But you see that movie and you're like, oh man, dude, we are so like, and I feel like it goes back to the same thing. They keep saying it over and over and over and over and over. They're telling it to you so many times that like naive people are buying into it. Like, you know what?

I think I am. No, you're not. No, no, no, you're not naive people are buying into it. Like, you know what? I think I am. No, you're not. No, no, no, you're not. They've just convinced you you are. You are not. That's not your DNA. That's not your identity. You don't wake up being like that.

It's just been sold to you constantly, right? And eventually like the whole, I read a book years ago was called the Genius and All of Us. And the author talks about how a low income to middle income family, a kid who was born by the time he turns 18, he has heard the word no or been rejected 600 more times than he's been encouraged. So a low income middle income family,

you've been rejected 600 more times, then encouraged, right? You're now accustomed to that. You're now accustomed to that. You're now accustomed to that. Yeah, and then it says like middle to lower upper class, it was like a hundred thousand that you've been discouraged, then encouraged. And then it explains families at upper and above, you're encouraged a hundred more thousand times

than this courage, like it's above. And it's like the kids walking you know, walking around like this, they have some confidence, they go to the schools, they feel pretty good about them, so this is not for everybody, because some of them are very, very critical. But the point is, words have power. Affirmation is a lot of power.

And we're affirming, by the way, I don't even know where you stand. What do you think about what's going on with America last couple of years here politically where we're at? You're in an industry that's you, you guys, I have friends in that world and we talk, but it's walking on eggshells a little bit in the business you're in.

How has that affected your business the last few years? How has it affected my business? Well, I personally find all politicians to be liars. And so there's no way for me to get behind a political party simply because I just don't trust any of them. In my business, I do know that 10 years ago, 10 years ago, there was a group called the Friends of Abe, Abraham Lincoln being the first Republican president.

And it was a very big group and they would publish their board and all the members and it was a very open group. And as soon as Trump came into office, the other side got so crazy that this group was no longer allowed to exist. So it disbanded. And that, to me, that makes me sad, the intolerance for another perspective, because I think that for the most part, individuals, not politicians, but individuals, have these ideas of, I perceive a problem.

And for the most part, everybody can agree that whatever X is a problem. So then it's just about finding solutions. And I might have a different idea about a solution than you have. But I don't think that we should be waging war with each other over our difference of solving the same problem. And that intolerance is very disappointing. I used to go to meetings with John Voit in LA and with a man named Fred and then a couple other guys, owners of public storage and would go to this, the house in Malibu and they would have

the most interesting conversations. But the way they would do it, it wasn't like, we're Republicans, they would bring the campaign manager of Bill Clinton, and they would bring the campaign manager of Bush. Two hour conversations, 40 of us in the room, and let me tell you, unfriicken believably entertaining. And like you're learning, right?

So when the camera was off, they got along. It's almost like, hey, we're just two different teams. Let's just figure out, you know what, my motives are, you know what, and I gotta give up some stuff to get with you. But, you know, going through John and, you know, some of the other guys, I mean, obviously, we know who in Hollywood is what side and what not side. But some of them got ousted, some of them didn't.

Some of them were bulletproof. You can do shit to Clint Eastwood. It's like, no, you can't do shit. Same stuff as for me. Yeah, for sure. There are a couple of them. Gary Sinese, I think he can probably be aligned with whatever he wants and he's fine.

But I think for the rank and file, there became a thing where it's like, well, we're just not gonna say anything. We're not gonna openly support anything. I agree. I agree. That sucks. And is there anybody that's kind of like because I saw a

Did you see the article in Mark Walbrook? Would he announce yesterday if you want to pull up Mark Walbrook? He did the father stew with Mel Gibson and Mel Gibson, one of the greatest actors of all time, but he came out and he said something yesterday about the fact that he's inspired. Yeah, he said Mark Walbrook explains how Mel Gibson inspired him to spend millions and millions of his own money on father's Two and not only that this story goes further. He says I Feel like this face of my life. I'm getting a calling Can you make this yesterday's article two days ago? This is two days ago. Oh, it's it's it's yesterday The article I wrote was yesterday. It's very recent go back a. Anyway, so he himself, you see him as a pretty reasonable guy,

revealed to him. Mark, by the way, Mark Wahlberg, you can't, you can't really see it. It's not so overt, but that dude has evolved. That dude, when I was young, I've known Mark for a long time. I did a movie with him. Wasn't he an American history expert? No, but I did a movie with him. Was it in American History, X or no? No, but I did a movie with him called Deepwater Horizon, but I have known him for a long time.

When we were kids, like children, teenagers, he was a bit of a mess. He wasn't maybe as much of a mess or as overt of a mess as I was. And I don't think he had a real drug problem, but, or did drugs at all, I don't know about that. But he now is a father. He's married.

He's very serious about his faith. Like he has turned his life around, really. In a big way, in a big way. And he, you know the movie he did, was it brothers? What was the name of the movie where the four brothers, the, it's him, it's, four brothers, three, is it four brothers? Yeah, yeah, exactly.

Yeah, so I and Tyree's I just I just feel like that's him. The movie he played the story of Mickey not make you word. Is it Mickey word where the brother is a is it the fighter? It's called the fighter fighter. You just look at him. You're like, I don't think you're acting, bro. I just believe you, you know, I just think you're being you. Like then's else not acting to me.

Denzel is just himself, you know, and he's got one role that he crushes at it. You don't see him being able to do, you know, but he sticks to this one role that he crushes because I don't think he's acting. But to see a guy like him, he just showed me an article here from People magazine where he says, you know, he's feeling like there's a calling.

I'm just going to get it up. Sounds like. This is God choosing me. It good, I don't know. Sounds like. This is God choosing me. Who's one of the heavens? Yeah, God choosing me. Tyler, it's on Slack. I don't see one Slack. Check yesterday.

Anyway, so you're seeing some of that taking place because I believe the power of right there. So Mark Walberg says he spent millions on faith-based movies. This is God choosing me to make it. Okay, go up a little bit to see what else he says. They make it a little bit bigger. 50 year old Angelman, I was on the show,

I was on the show, I was on the show, I was on the show, I was on the show, let's just say I put millions and millions of dollars into the film and then incurring other costs because we went over schedule and production and there were clearances for the music.

Said, while we're adding that to few friends who believe in the project, also invested in Walgreens that he prayed every day about getting this film made. I cannot take credit for the movie's success because this has got to choose a me to make this film. He knows finally I get to utilize all the talents and gifts that have been bestowed upon me for his greater good and serve my part

in his big picture. So you're seeing some of that. This is, I believe, you know, one time, one of my mentors, Dudley, gives a speech, he says there's seven mountains to climb. You know, military, you know, you got business, you got church, you got all these politics, and then he says entertainment.

He says the toughest one to climb to the top is entertainment. But entertainment is the one that you can really have some mass influence, right? Whoever controls Hollywood and movies controls the masses. I mean, that's just what there is to it. If I want to manipulate a mindset into anybody, I'll just make a movie out of it and put the right act or spend $100 million,

I can get you to think, well, maybe that's not that bad of an idea, right? So, but I don't think we have enough competition on both sides. Like, I think Vince Von was it, where he went in, he endorsed, was it Ron Paul at a Libertarian event? I don't know if you remember that.

I don't know, but I do know that whatever he did politically probably had some effect on him. Yeah. So, you think Hollywood kind of excommunicated him because he... I don't know about excommunicated. He's still around, he's still doing movies but thin phone was a massive movie star and man is not a massive movie and I don't think he had a happy

string of failures not what failure I mean I do the guy is got everybody gets their set of failures like you talk about earlier if our show goes we literally disappear but but what what what does it take in that space to get to a point of being untouchable? Is it your own money? Because Clint is using his own money at this point. Of course, he's got some investors that come in as well, but it's majority of it is his own money.

What do you make? Well, also, even think about this, Woody Allen. Woody Allen still makes a movie every year or every other year or something like that. And he is basically in dark blacked out. Like, you don't hear about the movies, you don't see the movies, they're all just going to Europe or something like that, but he still manages to get them made. It's all funded out of another country

or private investors or something like that. Hollywood is not investing in Woody Allen? I don't know if there's anybody that's untouchable in Hollywood. No matter, I mean, look at Will Smith. I mean, he would have been a high top. He would have been a high top. Harvey Weinstein was a, I mean, but he's not, he doesn't have the name recognition that a Will Smith does

or even a melt Gibson date in the early 2000s. But there's a difference. Harvey Weinstein was a gangster. He was, he was politically connected. Harvey Weinstein was a gangster. He was politically connected. Harvey Weinstein was behind the scenes. Yeah, untouchable. But to the masses, it's like, who's this scot? FYI, there is an example there that's different

than Vince Vaughn and then Clint. And he got some of the other guys, right? Gretly in a Josh, I would put him there as well, probably, is, uh, is it frant, uh, is it Chris, uh, Chris Pratt, right, uh, who played, uh, they're trying to get him to, yeah, they're trying to get him to get rid of Chris Pratt because he's, he's religious. Zach Levi, even Zach Levi, who's they though?

Uh, there's a big portion of Hollywood or the left which does not approve of the church that Chris Pratt goes to. And so there is constantly attempts to say like you should not have until this guy apologizes for his church or makes his church better, you should not hire this guy. These are the same people that are trying to cancel if you were part of the Friends of Abe. Are they the same people that are trying to cancel if you were part of the Friends of A, but are these the same people that are trying to cancel Pratt? Not the same people.

And you know, by the way, canceling Vince Vaughn, who are these people? It could be two people on Twitter. I don't know who it is, but there is a general sentiment that if your church was ever not super fond of gay people, your church is excommunicated and you can't be a part of it. So I know like Ellen Page has,

Elliot Page has come out and talked poorly about Chris Pratt in his church, which then leads to voices on Twitter, anonymous voices on Twitter. I'm an honest. Yeah, and it builds that way. I don't know who all of the people are, but the culture of Hollywood is very...

Get in line or get out. Yeah, I mean, not tolerance of religious positions, not tolerance of other ideas. Ivernee there, that their whole thing is inclusion, tolerance. But I thought, if you don't fit in, fall in line. I think any of that though, even on the right, if it's, if the idea is like absolute free speech, then you know, what was the,

the satanic panic of the 80s and 90s? That was all a right wing fear of like, you can't talk about this stuff, right? Like, let's arrest two live crew, their language is bad. I think no matter what, the group in power wants to stay in power and they want a homogenous dialogue so that there's no dissent. There's no taking that power away from them. Yeah, don't forget. We're not

against rap. We're not against rappers, but we are against those thugs, thugs, thugs. So they wanted to kind of, you know, the hip hop, all of that. So, but here's what you said. You said Harvey Weinstein and you said, we'll Smith, the difference we will Smith, it's a self-inflicted. He screwed up.

All was not canceling him. He canceled himself. That's what he did. That's a big screw. Which, we can talk about that, but we'll Smith is a screw up, which is a lot deeper than anything else. But here, my preference would be,

you do something that people are offended by. You have a very clear path to redemption. There should be some way to make amends. You come out on a college, I don't know what it is, but there should be a way to go like, without being self-serving, I screwed up. I'm really sorry, that's not me, because Will Smith, to me, is Will Smith to me is like he was the

he was the I still think he's a sweetheart and he had a bad one million. He had a bad night. But think of what we're saying right now. We're actually putting Harvey freaking one scene in Will Smith even in the same. No, I don't. I'm not saying that we are just saying the fact that those two names are intertwined because Will Smith slapped Chris Rock. I don't think they're in the same category. No, no, they're not. That's my point. But the fact that Harvey once in what he did was disgusting and repugnant. And Will Smith, okay, can I make a prediction? I'm going to make a prediction to you.

So what I think is happening is the following. So Will has different story. Harvey's, you know, completely uses power to abuse and all that stuff. And eventually it was too late. Vince is, yeah, we don't agree with you. He is actually being affected by it because this guy goes from being one to you some everywhere to, and by the way,

that guy's multi-dimensional. He did like this one psycho movie that, you know, maybe it was psycho. I don't know what movie he was in where he's playing this freaking crazy husband that's capable of doing murder and all these things and he goes and does wedding crash here. So he's so multi talented, right? But you know, the clinch of the world, all these guys, here's what's about to happen.

And you're going to see how this whole thing is going to come together. So Elon Musk goes out there and says, hey, I got a problem with what's going on with Twitter. All of a sudden, I'm convinced he's like, oh, you guys want to silence the president? You want silence Rogan? You want to silence this? You want silence Babylon? You want to say, oh, you do? No problem.

Okay, go. Here's what I'm going to do. I'm going to buy Twitter. Oh, no, no, no, no. I love it. He just wants to have to have that. He just wants to be a minority shareholder. That's on, no, no, no.

He's buying 9.2% matching Morgan Stanley as a biggest shareholder And then the CEO of Twitter sends a tweet saying well, we're working together and we're welcoming him to be on the board and And then is like dude, I'm not joining the board and then the CEO of Twitter digs at Ilana a little bit and I'm convinced Elon's like I'm sorry, what did you just say? I own this company, bro. I'm the biggest shareholder. No problem. You know what? If we can show this article here, the guy will find this morning Elon Musk offers to buy 100% of Twitter for $54 a share. I can't wait to enjoy Twitter. Dude, can you imagine? I can't wait. I can't wait to enjoy it. Dude, can you imagine? You can't wait. You can't wait. So he goes up there and buys it.

This is a byproduct of bullion. This is a byproduct of bullion. So what am I convinced gonna happen next? Here's what I'm convinced gonna happen next. See the quote, I invested in Twitter as I believe in its potential to the platform. Free speech, for the future. I'm not really a free speech,

social imperative, for functioning democracy. However, since making my mess, I now realize the company will neither thrive, nor serve the social societal imperative in its current form. Twitter needs to be transformed as a private company, as a result. I'm offering to buy out our percent.

By the way, do you think Morgan's family's not gonna sell to them? Morgan doesn't give a shit. Morgan's like, dude, the money to market's about to tank next year. Buy it. They're making 40% of their money there. Dude, that's crazy, right? They're calling it a $43 billion hostel takeover. Let us consider that a hostel takeover. It's okay.

The board does not want it. Yeah. Let it be a hostel takeover. It's great. But here's the thing, guys, brace for impact, brace for fricking impact. Who did Bezos just by recently?

Washington Post. No, no, he bought that a WMGM's. He just bought it just recently. Now, the mode really? Yeah, he did. He just bought him a chair. That's crazy. I didn't know that.

So, you got these two guys, okay? Buying everything. Wait a minute, but do you see baseless as a true believer or do you believe baseless is playing a game of who's gonna end up having the most money and the most power? And do you think Elon Musk is a true believer where which of these guys is more concerned about the little guy and protecting the voice?

Is the baseless? I don't think it's even a question. I agree with you, right? I totally agree with you. So here's the thing, he's buying for business. I saw John Stewart interview Bob Eiger from Disney and questioning about news and ABC and all this stuff and you know how you reported on this and you reported on that and you guys are so one side and I don't know about it for one side.

And so you don't think you're one side and it was a very interesting interview. If you haven't watched it's 15 minutes. Highly recommend you watch John Stewart interview and I grew up like two weeks ago, especially with what's going on with Disney right now, with all that stuff. I think I'm convinced Elon's gonna get into the movie business. I'm convinced there's next move. You got two other companies you gotta buy, okay?

The next company he has to buy is CNN. He has to buy, okay? Because he's more of a Ted Turner than the current CNN is a Ted Turner. So he buys these guys, then he buys what he call it. He buys CNN. After buying CNN, he has to go buy a major catalog or a major media company. Okay.

No, it's not Netflix, he could do Hulu, he could do one of those other guys. He could do any of those guys, and you can buy that for pocket for him, it's not a big deal. But a movie's too big. So, so, so, so, well, MGM is gone,

because it's not like a paramount. But that's what he's gonna do. He's gonna do that, because he's starting, people have to realize, okay. The way Hitler got the world to buy in to him is the first time the movie Titanic came out, who was a director of Titanic, a guy named Hitler.

And who was a hero of Titanic? What? A hero of Titanic at the end is a Nazi. The soldier, that's it, was a Nazi. I didn't see this version. Okay, so let's, if you go to Titanic. This is not the Leonardo DiCaprio. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no of film which was Nazis were heroes and he was controlling the entire movie beginning to the end. Commission by Joseph Garbos. Yes, that's the point. So, so, so what, what am I,

are you, no, I'm just desperately hope you're not in compare to you. I must to hit. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, you are saying propaganda, seeing hearts and minds. No, I'm saying that's what they're doing today. I'm saying that's what Hollywood's doing today. You guys and in Churchill had to go against, you know, freaking Hitler to save the world or else all of us will be speaking German. I think a guy like Churchill and Musk are very similar. I think Musk is going to come out and going to say, you guys think you're that bad? No problem. Watch what we're going to do. And by the way, you saw already they're trying to get them for Twitter, all investigation, SEC bullshit, all that crap's going to come. But what makes Elon Musk similar to Clint Eastwood, it's his own money and he's got this going

for himself. He tells everybody, go screw yourself. So I think he's got a, he's got a, it's like a Trinity. Trinity is what Twitter, okay, which is where we're talking. CNN, that's where we get the news. And he needs, he needs the Trinity. It's, it's, it's the media movies. I think that happens.

Whole people, people, people, people going to be shivering every night, saying holy shit and, and, and Hollywood. Finally, the Vince Vanzo, the world are going to get their 20 million dollars, because that's a 20 million dollar movie guy. Because that's a $20 million movie guy. That's not a freaking $2 million. That's a $20 million movie guy. And it's gonna go back to saying, let's compete. You know, okay.

So that's my prediction. I may be way off, but I foresee something like that. I think if Elon's got two more moves, it's two moves. C&L, yeah, that sounds fun. He thinks long-term in terms of how he set up with the Roadster. He's a true believer. Yeah. The Tesla S and then the Tesla 3.

So he thinks in 5, 10, 15-year increments. So I mean, if there's anyone to think that long and that far out, I mean, he's the guy. I also love that he's open to, like, you know, if you wanted to get some feature added to a Ford pickup truck. Good luck. It would take 20 years or you know all kinds of you know Musk reads a tweet thinks it's a good idea it's happening the next day in a car. So yeah it's unbelievable. When he first took over 9.2%

Twitter he said just Twitter need an edit button and he spelled yes wrong to kind of okay let me I don't I don't want to be the dissenter here, but let me just kind of throw this out there. Is there, we're kind of singing Elon Musk's praises and all the great stuff that he's doing, you're called in the Trinity. What's the downside with having that much powers one guy? There's gotta be something. Nothing as long as there's a competitor, nothing.

Capitalism works, I trust it. Capitalism works because there's competition. These motherfuckers. I'm sorry I don't use the F4 to often what they've done is they've eliminated all their competition is what they've done They've had a monopoly Hollywood's had a monopoly for too long and behind closed doors are bullying people Netflix came in a freaking scare the shit out of everybody where Ricky Jervais gets up on stage and says what hey You guys may as well give up and surrender and say Netflix take all the awards tonight, right? Netflix played a very important role, okay?

Then you got Hulu, H, all of a sudden, they're like, wait a minute, wait a minute, I used to have control of all of you guys. I don't anymore, it's called capitalism. It's called innovation. It's called pushing you back a little bit. And in every industry, you're gonna experience bullies, okay? In every industry, you're gonna experience bullies. In every industry, you're gonna experience bullies.

What happens with bullies is, bullies can only go so far, but what bullies don't realize is bullies inspire people. And bullies inspire those who go up against bullies. Hitler was a bully, Churchill is the guy that goes up against bullies. I can go on and on about people that went up against bullies. I can go on and on about people that went up against bullies.

What bullies kind of, it's very easy if you allow somebody to bully you every day, the next day, the next day, the next day, what are you gonna do? They're gonna keep taking your lunch until you finally stand up to them, right? What's gonna happen today is guys like Elon, there's gonna be more than,

it's not just Elon by the way, there's a few other guys, Peter feels on that camp and there's like 50 guys that are brawlers. That if you, and what they've done is, some of them were asleep, some of them were distracted, but they officially have woken up, some of the guys that they should have never woken up and they're true believers. They're about to experience competition. The next decade or two like they've never experienced before, I'm convinced the next two decades

are gonna be freaking sick. By the way, I just want you to do motivational speeches. Like I say, basically say that because I feel better. You know what I mean? Like I feel like we're gonna be okay. We're gonna be okay, bro. This is a white pill, my friend. That's a way not a red bulletin mark.

Very back motivation, Monday. I think we're going in, I'm telling you right now, this whole thing with futures, right? I keep saying futures, right? Future. I'm telling you guys like Musk are gonna get up because you know how somebody's a president, what do we do? We kind of want to emulate the president. So Reagan's president, oh, I'm gonna talk like Reagan

because Reagan and Johnny Carson kind of talk like each other. They have their same style in it. Bill Clinton, oh shit, Bill Clinton's a player. I'm gonna be a player too, dog. You know what I'm saying? You know, go, Obama, or Obama, you know, we're all walking, so you know,

we're talking and we're doing all this stuff. Then Trump's president, oh, Doug, we're back at my nontrapin' or I'm a fucking, so when an Elon is now the hero, dude, you're gonna have five million kids going to school who are all in tri-out right now, who are the next future Elon's, they can't let an Elon stay as a hero.

They have to control who the hero is, because if Elon stays as the hero, dude, you're not only locked in next 10, 20 years. You may be locked in the next 40 years if he stays as the hero. It's very, very important who is painted as the hero for a decade or two because kids emulate him. Like Steph Curry is a great face at a league. LeBron's not. He's a horrible face at a league. Horrible. Like, I hope Janice becomes a face at a league because the way he talks, I ask him a question the other day.

So how much is a scoring title mean to me? Nothing. I believe it's dangerous to chase things like that. I don't care about the scoring title. He sits out the last game, Joel, and beat one's a scoring title. He couldn't win the scoring title. He gives two shits about scoring title.

That's why he's a good face, right? I think he lost a good face. And he's gonna inspire the next fricking sick people that are gonna come up to even better than Elon did. So I'm convinced the next decade or two is gonna be solid. I'm excited. We're gonna do our fight. We're gonna do our part.

Cause it's not gonna be like, it's gonna be people at different levels that are gonna be fighting. And those guys are gonna unite. And then it's gonna be like, okay, okay Mr. Bullies, you guys good? You guys wanna fight or you good? I mean, it is very, very fountainhead, right?

Like, he really is like Howard Roark. You see, like, if he winds up buying CNN, that would be crazy. Watch what it happens. That would be wise. Good watch. I want to invest in CNN today. I don't think I would invest it in Twitter when I crash.

Did you see CNN plus as numbers, bro? Yes. Did you see the numbers as numbers, bro? Yes. Did you see the numbers at 10,000? 10,000. What is that cost? That's got this. $300 million. Wow.

They spent $300 million and they got 10,000 to the point where CMBC tweeted out. Calls and just say, can you go to my Twitter and just put it with CMBC? They're like, boys, you're not supposed to go on CNN, but that's why you trust capitalism go up Keep going keep going keep going keep going keep going keep going keep going a little bit more It's it's coming up here or right there click on that one right there that one right there look at this Cmbc says fewer than 10,000 people are using CNN plus on a daily basis two weeks into its existence sources Tell Cmbc cast and doubt on the future the app following the combination of discovery and the word and media. They're on the same page.

So even people on the same page are calling each other out because capitalism freaking works. And it's that since when does C.M.B.C. call that CNN? This is why I trust capitalism. C.M.B.C. is OTT peacock is kicking CNN's ass. peacock has nine million paid customers. And CNN only has 10,000.

It's that simple. C.M.B.C. is dominating C.M.N. good for them. So only has 10,000. It's that simple. CNBC is dominating CNN. Good for them. So it's 10,000. Yeah, that's insane. 300 millions. You just got wallets. You're like, oh, we got wallets from Fox News.

And we're going to have 10,000. No problem. Do you think CNN's brand is tarnished? They need a good number one. Irrevocably. Until the right person is driving the company at the top. You see, you think that it comes down to just a figurehead leadership? One million, do you know what tetriner did to media?

Tetriner was, tetriner ran to be a president. Elon Musk could be president if he was born here. Elon Musk is the kind of guy that could make the government change the laws to allow 100% agree with the law. The one hundred percent agree with the law. The one day who's lived in America for 35 years, the Elon Musk could be the reason why we may have an amendment to say anyone that's been a citizen of the United States for 35 years can run for office.

It would be really fun to watch the leftists argue against this. It's great about not allowing for student. I can't wait to get out of here. What are you going to say? Did you hear what it's just? Yeah, of say? Did you hear what it's just? Yeah, of course. Did you hear what it's just? Break that down.

Like go there. Go there. Break that down. Well, I mean, I'm just saying, I just think any of these things, right? Any of these things are viewed through the perspective of what I want. So as long as it aligns with what I want, then it's fine. If, you know, today, if you asked the majority of people on the left, should foreigners be allowed to run for president?

They would say, hell yes, I assume. But if it was Elon Musk who was the foreigner, they would say no, we only can have Americans running. You know what I mean? I just think that's the way. I'm gonna do poll right now on Twitter. That's, I'm gonna do a quick poll. These are my assumptions.

But they're good assumptions though. It's good assumptions that you got there. So can you imagine, can you imagine that happen? Can you imagine in the next six, 12 months, Elon owns Twitter, he owns CNN, and he owns a big ass frickin' production, like a MGM,, just brace for impact. The best part about it is the following.

You ever seen a bully cry when they lose. It's the best kind of cry. Oh, dude, I mean, there's different levels to crying. There's real crying where you feel bad for the person. There's crying, that's funny crying. Like, dude, you're... Yeah, it's hilarious. But the greatest crying

Yeah, it's the bully crying dude. It's like the it's like in your boy Denzel Washington in what's the movie? Yeah, the training day conga nothing on me It's cry like that. Yeah, that's your boy, but like like everyone was rooting against Denzel Washington the entire movie and then finally the whole hood turns against him and the cry and the sobbing and you don't, Denzel is the man's man. You don't expect that from him, but that's the cry that everyone's like hell or like even Drago and Rocky when Rocky knocked him out.

It's a relief to see. Right. As an outsider, it's like, oh, fucking awesome, right? Everyone's talking about it. When Bill Burr, Bill Burr was on Conan. I love Bill Burr and Conan. It's my favorite combination of interviews.

I like Bill Burr. Devil Jennings. I like Bill Burr. I did a movie with him. Did you? Yeah. Which one was it? We played cops.

Me and Bill Burr. We're at paracops chasing this girl. Is he the same on camera as he is off camera? Like is he? That's just a guy? Pretty much. Pretty much. That's who he is. Yeah. I can listen to Bill for hours. I won't get tired of it. But he says, he's sitting with a consists of, so, were you following Conan asked the question? Were you following the

election? Were you following? He says, yeah, maybe a little bit. You know, I was at the hospital. My wife was given birth and we had to TV on and I'm watching this guy say things and then he says, so what do you think about the results? He says, dude, I gotta tell you, watching people on the other side

cry and lose their minds, the great, he says Kurt Gibson, forget about it. US beating, you know, whatever, the hockey, this is great, everything keeps going. It's like, this was the greatest thing I've ever seen. The feeling of people that thought, this will never freaking happen. I have a feeling right now,

Elon in the next 30, 60, 90 days is gonna get, hit up from every different angle. Girls are gonna come out, they're gonna get. Guys are gonna come out, you're gonna get. Guys are gonna come out. You're gonna see character assassination at the highest level. That's coming soon. FYI, that's what it means.

That's what it means. Yeah, see, there's me and Bill. Don't I look like cops, me and Bill? It's actually a lot of you. It's just the mustache. You throw a mustache on you, buddy. You could do anything you want with that mustache. Oh, you were walking shit.

Yeah, that, how many movies you've been in, bro? Quite a few movies, quite a few movies. I do, I do, I do feel like if he succeeds with Twitter and if CNN catches wind of him trying to buy them, it is going to be a bloodbath with their reporting on Musk. I love that. What's her name, by the way, that actress? Dunst?

No. No. She's a great actress. No, I think that a person does. I'm blanking on her name right now. Elizabeth Banks. Oh, yeah. Wasn't she in 40-year-old Virgin?

No. I don't think so. Yes, she was. She might have been. She might have been. Go see if she was in a 40-year-old Virgin. Yes, she wasn't 40. Go type if she was in a 40 year old virgin type. And yeah, she wasn't 40. Go type in 40 year old virgin.

Do the other way, Ron. Do 40 year old virgin and then you'll see the cast because it's a while back type. That's right, she was in the Hunger Games. She played the, the, the, the, the hostess. She was in 40 or she did at the, at Blackpusters. Remember when they're, so what's your name? What's your name?

Yes, my God. Yes, yes, yes, yes. Yes, he was in it. It was that scene. Oh my God, it's a great scene between the two of them. She did a great job. Yeah, that's seen right there, classic. Oh, it was Steve Crowe. Do you know what that is?

That is at the Ensino Valley Total Fitness. You still have a borders right there. That's my sister was the manager at the Valley Total. They shot it right there at the Encino Valley Toto Fitness. I don't know if you know. The character could have been based on your sister. LAUGHTER Shout out to Polette.

Shout out to Polette. Working at the book store. So, with the 40-year-old Virgin. So, going back to movies with different guys you've worked with. Who did you see, act, and it's like one take, type of guy, you're like, how the hell do you do just one freaking take? Like who was the most ridiculous talent you've seen?

And it's unfair to ask this question because it's not like one or two. You've worked with the best of the best. But who was someone like, when I talk to guys, I've interviewed some of the guys and the mob movies, some of those guys, everybody's like, well, let me tell you, Marlon Brando, dude, this guy was like something else, right?

And he talked to guys that are like to Chris Browns and some of these guys ushers who have worked and done something with Michael Jackson back in the days to, at one time, just guys choreography. Who was that? I'm less impressed by that. Being an actor myself, I expect people to come in and do a good job. What I'm really impressed with is work ethic and showing up on time and knowing your lines

and just being prepared in those ways. And I will say, and I've been friends with him for 25 or almost 30 years. Leonardo Caprio, and I've been to on sets with him before I actually worked with him, and I never, it's never paid attention to this, but working with him, he was always the first guy on set. He knew all his lines. He knew all his lines. He never missed a beat.

And for me, that's not always the case. Sometimes the star is the last guy on set and you're all on your marks waiting for them to arrive and they walk on and you start, you know what I mean? That did not occur with him at all. I would have never guessed you was so Leo. Does that set the tone for everyone as if Leo's here first and he's working on it?

Like everyone, but it really does. Yeah, when you have guys who are starting to come in later, if they're hungover, if they're hungover, if they're not prepared, if they're reading their sides, you know, while they're standing on their mark, if they're holding it up a little bit, it does. It drags a little bit, right? Having a guy who's so gung-ho, who I've seen before where they're, he's getting dressed while walking to set just because he doesn't want to hold anybody up. So I was very, very impressed with him when I worked with him.

Have you ever had scenes that maybe wasn't recorded? How Christian Bale lost his mind on the audio guy, whoever was that's walking back. It's one of the best scenes by the way, when he seemed to lose it. There's something, it's like watching a chef lose it. There's something very uh or Bill O'Reilly. Fuck it. Well go alive. You know, there's something very creative madness. You know it's it's cool. Science is an action. Science is an action. Has that happened where you're on a set and one of the main characters like there's a slight little movement or adjustment. They just are so sensitive to everything that they lose

it. I mean, I've seen it before where I don't want to name names, but a long time ago, 15 years ago, I did a movie for television. You know, they used to do that, like TV movies. And one of the actors got into a fight with a group like a fist fight over something like that. I didn't even know what exactly had happened or if there was tension with these guys before, but suddenly they're fighting and I was just like, what the fuck is happening?

We're at work. You can't be doing this and they got separated and then it was fine. But I haven't seen anything quite as wonderful as those few instances. Also, when I started acting, so almost 30 years ago, we heard stories that there was a very famous and I don't really want to get super graphic, but there were stories about a Sylvester Stallone recording because he was mic'd and went back to his trailer and something occurred and it got recorded.

And I never heard the recording so it could be just like an old wives tale, but that scared the shit out of me. So anytime there was a microphone anywhere near me, I was like, somebody's listening, somebody's recording this, be careful. Now, are you still tight with Leo? Yeah, yeah. He's a very good friend.

When is Leo gonna settle down? Or is he ever gonna settle down and get married? I don't know. I have no idea. But by the way, you know, I had, I'm convinced of this. I may be wrong, but I had dinner with a guy named David Herzog who was a CO4 of AIG. And he was there with Bob and Moshe. These are the guys that went and got $183 billion

from the government and then they paid her back and gave $21 billion. This guy was a CFO. So he's like very, very powerful guy in the financial industry. And I said, so you know, tell me about yourself. I've been married 27 years. Oh, okay, cool.

How many kids you guys got? We don't have any kids, really. You know, I don't have any kids. You guys, you know, any reason? No, we just chose a long time ago. Our kids was our career. Really? Both my wife and I made our kids, our career, our kids.

And that's how we treated it. And both of us have done very well. We run a restaurant on a golf course and she manages that and I do what I do here. I'm like, okay, cool. I think certain people make their career, their wife or their kids. And some actually look at it that way.

Do you think that's what's happening with Leo? First of all, do you think he lacks options? I mean, if you wanted to, 0% this is why we're so enthralled by what he's going on. But I think the way he just described Leo makes sense to me why he can't do that. Because to give that kind of commitment, you can't have distractions to, you know, that, and anyways,

I'm speculating. I'm not his friend. He's his friend, but I'm just thinking certain people that take it to that level, I had a guy talk to him one time and Greg, his name was this, but this is like 18 years ago. I said, if you were to tell me a few weird things that nobody talks about, that he want to make it all the way to the top, what would you suggest? He says, never get married, never have kids. I said, what?

I said, but you're married and you have kids. Be so I never made it to the top. I will say having a wife and kids, the absolute worst place to bring them is to work. It's the worst distraction ever because if you're here and you're consumed and you're trying to do your job to have this, you know, a movie set is almost like being at a construction zone, you know what I mean? Like nothing's ever fully built, it's all being presented from one direction and there's stuff you can't touch and places you can't go and there's nowhere to sit down sometimes

and to have this idea of like, my wife and my kids, the people who I need to make sure they're okay all the time are taking care of. I've done TV shows where I've brought kids in and gone like, you want to come, you're a PA, you have to work if you're going to be here. And we can have lunch together and all that, but I can't think like, what's my kid doing right now? Where is, where are they? They're sitting in my trailer watching TV or I don't know what, you know what I mean?

It's a rough place to, you really have to be concentrating on what you're doing. Respect, man. The legacy and the stories of Leo are just insane. I mean, it was first, I think, Geter than Cloney now, Leo is just the frickin man as far as like. Leo has been the man for a few decades. That's not like a kid.

That's why people are wondering what's next for this guy. But he's that dedicated to his craft, is what you're saying. So you think, you think, for instance, one of the things that I'm enthralled about with Pat is like his work ethic, but he's married and he's got four kids and he's run into businesses and he's dealing with all this. Yeah, he still is the first one in last one like that's it makes kind of like what you did with Leo makes you raise your standards and say I can't slack off. I got the fucking the boss over here doing more than anyone. I mean, that's kind of what you're saying with Leo

over there. Do you think his worth that worth work ethic would be exactly the same if he was married with kids and that would kind of take away. I think he would compartmentalize because I think I have a good work ethic. I just think it's hard like to merge the two. So if you're, if you're him and again, when you, when I did that movie with him, he worked every day, I worked not every day, right?

I worked many fewer days than him. So I could bring my family and make sure that I spent a lot of time with them too on the days that I wasn't working. They just couldn't come to work. For him, that's six months where he's working every single day, and then on the weekend, he's preparing for next week's work,

and at night after work, he's preparing for tomorrow's work, and so I think it is less conducive in that part. But I think he would be capable, certainly, of compartmentalizing these things. Yeah, and I would assume if you're really lighting it up, you're doing more movies and you're taking on more things, once you have family and you decide to go to next route, then you're a little bit more picky and choosy

on what you take and what you don't take. and he's already pretty picky and choosy like he doesn't have Movies coming out back to back to back to back Yeah, you look at the list of do you put him as a top 10 of all time? I think he's very good Yeah, who do you have as like if you were to say I think in you know like NBA, Michael, you know football, Brady Who's who you put in your top five top time? I think Daniel Day Lewis is really hard to beat as an actor Three times or is it three-time winner or four-time one? I don't even know I just know that he disappears into these roles and he's always compelling and I really enjoy watching him and he's always compelling and I really enjoy watching him. Meryl Streep, I like a lot.

I don't go really too much deeper than that. I just like those two, I think those two are great. And I think Leo's an incredible actor too, but he's my buddy, so I don't wanna think of him as that way. Did you have someone that you kinda emulated, you just said, all right, I see what this guy's doing. Obviously I wanna be my own person and all that stuff, but it's like, all right, cool. Like this guy's doing it.

I'm a bigger guy, but I've lost his weight. Who do you try to emulate? Well, as of today, I'm just trying to almost figure out who I am now. You know, I've been losing weight for 15 years or closer to 20 years, but like today, I am certainly different than what most people know me as. When I was a kid, I didn't see him as a big guy,

but I really looked at like, guys like Peter Laurie, this old German star, and I just thought like, what an incredible career that guy had. You know, he was in, he was in so many different things and played so many different roles and he was always interesting and he was like the consummate that guy actor. And that's really the guy who I was like, if I could have a career like that, dude, I would be so happy. Wasn't there a documentary called that guy?

Probably. Yeah, there was a documentary type in documentary. A documentary, a documentary, documentary, that guy faces you know, but you don't know the names. There's a documentary called, go back, go back and just go back. That guy who was in that thing. Yeah, that guy who was in that thing. Yeah, that's a documentary. By the way, you know that one video that you see

with Jonah Hill being interviewed and he's kind of losing his cool and he says, oh, you know, how's it feel like his cool. And he says, oh, you know, how's it feel like? You're like that fat guy in Hollywood, right? You're like that fat guy in Hollywood. And he's like, can we ask next question? He's like, well, I'm just asking this because in Hollywood, you were the fat guy.

Now you're the skinny guy. But you're still the fat guy. Does that help your career? And you can tell he's getting irritated, right? And I think he went to Jimmy Kimmel. And Jimmy Kimmel was like, wow, you actually smell very good. And he says, why would you ask that question? I just didn't see you as somebody

that would smell very good, why not? And he's not being funny. He's actually being irritated. He's like, dude, what are you doing? So when you see him going through what he's going through and you've recreated yourself, does that hurt the brand? Because, hey, who's the best guy

that we can get that can play XYZ? It's Joan, okay, let's get him. Who's the best guy? Oh, now we gotta, does it hurt the brand to position the actor in a role that maybe would have worked when he was not in shape instead of being in shape? Typecasting, essentially.

Does it hurt Joan's brand? Was it? Did it hurt my brand? Both of you. I mean, I don't think it hurt Jonas brand. Jonas is a very, very funny person. He's very witty. He's written a lot of the stuff that he's done. So that's a whole other universe from what I do.

I don't do that. I don't create material for myself, which, if I was capable of doing that, maybe I'd have a much better career than I do. I'm very happy with my career, but you know what I mean? Like Jonah Hills clearly on a much higher level than I'm on.

So I don't think it's hurt. Jonah's brand at all. And if you see him now, he's so happy. Oh my God. His happiness infects me. I look at him and I know there was a rough patch there, right? And I think it's, I think. And I don't know.

We haven't talked, he's a buddy of mine too. We haven't talked that specifically about this, but it's got, he, something has washed over him and he has let go of something and he doesn't give a fuck anymore. The media's out there trying to, you know, the media does shit where they try, you know, like they did it to me too. Now they're nice to him, but there's a minute where you lose weight and they just wanna criticize you

and say like, you're not gonna get work or here's the downside, look at his loose skin, look at all these negative stuff And they were doing that to him a little bit and he just said fuck you. I don't care and and and he radiates Inner peace and happiness now like it's it's marvelous for me Yeah, it's it's it's affected my career a little bit. I just had a movie out in you know A couple weeks ago called Dog, which I'm super happy with.

Yeah, I saw that. Yeah, it's a good movie. Congratulations. Thank you. So it hasn't kicked me out of Hollywood at all, but I also can look at my movie career prior to doing television and going like, well, doing television might have affected my movie career.

You know what I mean? And I lost a sizable amount of weight at that point. Doing television, is it a different, okay, so what's a promotion in your world? Is it feature or is it, have a television show that stays for three, four, five, six years? What's, well, I'll just put it to you this way. The most money I ever got paid for a movie was a movie called Mr. Woodcock, which wasn't a huge hit, but it was a fun movie.

And the next thing I did was television, and I did television for five years. And, you know, if you do a television show for seven months straight, you wanna take those five months off. You don't wanna go and do another movie. So I'm going, they're- They're Bob Thornton?

Yeah. So they're coming to me. Bang in a teacher or something. What was that? What was that whole thing about? He was the mean PE coach. Okay. Then starts hooking up with one of the moms.

Right. And, you know, not Stiffler's mom, but the- Right. Stiffler's mom. Yeah, exactly. That's not Stiffler's mom, but the right stiffler's mom. Yeah, exactly. Not Stiffler in that way. Coming out of my name is rural, my name is rural ends. I've not done a movie in a few years. And now I'm like, okay, let's go do movies again.

And movies were kind of like, well, you're a TV guy now. You know, and so then it was doing pilots and more TV series. So, you know, I can't say it's only weight loss that has, you know what I mean? So this paid you the most? Most. Till today. Of any movie of any movie.

Yeah, this paid you the most. Wow. What was your role in this movie? Can you pull up? I played his best friend and me and him were You know trying to track down dirt on Woodcock to break up him and his mom But see I wasn't I wasn't I wasn't at that point as big as I wasn't remember the Titans

No, not even close. No, not even close. You, what do you weigh there? No, you're, you're probably, there's 300 pounds there. Well, back to the Jonah Hill thing about, I think there's a part and even with your situation, there's a part of, I think just a human condition, I don't know if this is Hollywood,

but when you're so used to something and you change, you're like, oh, that's not who you are. You're the fat guy. What do you do it? Right. Right, you know, and you're not TV, buddy. What do you want to move? Right, exactly.

There's part of that. Once you do TV and it's like, it's a successful TV show, people are like, no, you're that character, right? When you're doing movie after movie, especially me, where I'm not a leading man, so I'm not the guy in the movie, you know Denzel Washington People probably have some sense of I know who Denzel Washington is right? He's this guy right and if he

Suddenly did a sitcom people would be like what the fuck is Denzel Washington doing? He's not a sitcom guy, you know where he's playing like the goofy dad People would be freak that would be freaked out. Yeah, so would I yeah And so TV people you know the other differences it was explained to me once was like Brad Pitt I believe and I could be totally off here Brad Pitt was talking to Johnny Glecky Johnny Glecky was on rose in and then That math sitcom I'm blanking on what it's called. Big bang, big bang, yeah. Blondon. No, he's got that. Oh no, no, the glasses. He was, okay, he was Darcy's a, what a husband or a wife. So, Roseanne. Johnny Glecky had a hundred million dollar contract on that show. He was making a fortune and

Brad Pitt said to him, yeah, the difference between you and me is you're inside their house every week. You're in their living room. I'm in a movie theater. So people are not coming up to me going, hey, like people actually think they know you when you're on TV versus when you're a movie star, there's some separation. You gotta go and it might be changing now. There is a big deal. Very interesting. It might be changing now because a lot of these movies are in the house too immediately, right?

But it's also not serialized. So it's like, this is it. This is the movie. You don't get an episode two through possibly 100 of a movie. Right. But when you're kind of talked about, like you're that guy, you're that, I mean,

a lot of people in Hollywood or even in TV struggle with that, I mean, like, dust and diamond, no matter what role he ever did, that was screech. Yeah. Straight up, Mario Lopez, who hosted one of Pat's big events, Mario's been able to navigate, he's not AC Slater when you see that guy. Still he's everywhere. He's everywhere. I mean, I see Mario hotel. I was like to say hotel. Yeah. And the way my career started in movies, I was in American history X and then

remember the Titans and then Blow. Those are three very, very different characters, right? And so you're not I'm I'm massive in all of them, but you're not pigeonholing me into, oh, I know everything about that guy, because then the next week I'm doing something completely different or the next six months. So what did they say when they see you? Like was it different based on different movies

that were out? Like when people were seeing public, what would they say? It really is, it depends on their age and what they're in. What's there, and ever a person that was upset with you really is, it depends on their age and what they're in. And ever a person that was upset with you because who you were in a movie, a role you played in a movie?

I have had a few people upset with American history X and offended by it. And I'm kind of perplexed because I think American history X was actually an important movie. And painting. And painting a real picture of stuff that happened, especially you from Los Angeles, you know, Orange County in the 90s was a scary place.

There were some bad dudes down there. That stuff existed. I don't think it really exists like that as we portrayed it. I mean, I'm sure there are pockets in America, but it was easy to go down to Orange County and find some racist skinheads in the 80s, or the 90s, not so easy now,

but it was important in that way. And so to have somebody just like the language was bad, you guys were so evil, I can't believe you did that. It confuses me. Yeah, that's kind of how I process it. Like somebody comes, oh, you know what? You did this and because emotionally you're connected in a movie, you're like, I can't believe you killed them

in a movie. Do you think that's more related to TV shows though, or movies? But people don't seem to have a problem with any of the TV shows I've done. Really interesting. But is that also due to the characters? Because I know, for instance, there are certain characters,

like you mentioned in the TV shows where they're in the living room week after week, year after year, in many cases, stuff like that, where there's TV shows where I think of a bad guy, and that's all I see him as. Even when you see him in a movie in a different role, you're like, no, you're that dirtbag from that TV show. And I think that given that you're in there longer, and you're playing that role as opposed to a movie where you're a bad guy for two hours and then I go on with my life, maybe that could be more of an offset as opposed to the TV. I've played so few bad guys. I've played really like one. I'm trying to rack my brain I'm not that American history. I don't think there's another one that I've done where

I've been like a real legit bad guy. So by choice, there's that by casting. I don't think there's another one that I've done where I've been like a real legit bad guy. Is that by choice or is that by casting? I have nothing against playing a bad guy. I just haven't had many opportunities. I'm a sweet guy. Yeah, that's a good guy. They don't see you as a... Louis Lastic, baby.

You're trying to team together. Two things I want to ask before we, before we, you know, one of them has to do with where you're at. One is, are you following the Disney story? What's going on with Disney? Very loosely. I personally don't watch or pay attention to the news at all. I'll read some articles, but I think I have an understanding of it.

By the way, Disney's been canceled so many times by so many groups over the years. It's just like some people are mad at Disney now. Okay. It's what you're saying, it's it's constant. That happens constantly. They're constantly being canceled. It's just not the first time in my lifetime of being aware of Disney that there's been a group pissed off at Disney.

This is slightly different though. This is slightly different because you know, Charlie Korra. Did you see the story with Charlie Korra, Disney, heirs, and high school teacher comes out as trans, slams Florida, education law, you know, the great grandchild of the late Roy Disney who confounded Disney with the younger brother wallets come out as transgender is going to on the attack against Florida's parental rights and education law. Korra said that LGBTQ people already face rates of depression, anxiety, bullying and suicide. They put then put aside something like that as a law. They can't learn about our community and their history or play sports or use bathroom. They want to use the claim is not entirely true. The education bill only prevents Florida children. So, you know, you said something interesting. You said back in the days, it was them trying to silence, you know, what group were you talking about?

People on the right, the skin hit, not skin it. It was Satan. Satan, Satan, Satan. And today now is this, the extremes being on both sides. But I think the pendulum swings, man. I think it's swung radically left. And unfortunately, it's gonna swing radically right, probably.

And so for me, I don't find that I really can get down with either of those extreme sides. I'm a guy who's just like, I'm interested in people, I find people fascinating, I'm interested in the solutions people have, and I'm interested in all of it. I don't wanna like discount anybody, but this whole thing over this law in Florida, I read the law. The law is not saying what they're saying

the law is saying. For me, I don't want to, I mean, it doesn't seem like an opportune time to teach kids about sexuality from kindergarten to third grade. That's my perception on kids. So the idea of not teaching them that, not informing them on things like that, especially I think that should be the job of the parents. So I don't understand why they're so freaked out about it. By the way, there's nowhere in the bill that it says don't say gay. No way in the bill.

Yeah, that's just called great marketing. But one of the things that wanted, did you want to say something? I was going to say, you brought up yesterday the pendulum swings that we're bringing about today. I think that is America. I mean, not even just politically, societally. Everything just comes down to, I mean, think about it since 1980 we've had Reagan. And then in the next,

then, but, Pendolums never gone right with Disney. I'm not even saying Disney. I'm saying, I'm saying, I'm talking, I'm talking, give your opinion on,

then you go to Bill Clinton and then you go to back to Bush and then you go to Obama and then you go to Trump. And then you can, that's America. And then we're just constantly grappling. Disney used to be center of gravity.

The cartoonist in Disney used to put dicks in the cartoons. The little mermaid. And you talk about the box. Yeah, and the box of little mermaid covered. That's what you're talking about. But what it was in the actual stils, they would hide in the cartoons themselves. They would hide fallacies cartoons themselves, they would hide

fallacies and graphic stuff in all this. And they've removed a lot of it. It's not just that. You can look for instances of graphic images in Disney cartoons. I think that's all that all about. Well, I'm just saying there were times where religious groups were furious with Disney about this. Well, I'm just a normal person, not religious. Why are you hiding dicks?

It's just not the first time people have been bent out of shape about what Disney. And then there was a time where, you know, I don't think this is true. Yeah, right there. That is clearly a cock and ball. That's good. But what?

But what? And the little mermaid. I remember. On the cover of the little mermaid. I remember. Someone behind the scenes is basically saying, I'm trying to rule kids' lives. Obviously the impact that Adam's life. When I remember thinking Ariel was pretty high. And then there was a very angry with Disney.

The left was angry with Disney because he wasn't unionizing his workers. So there was a time period where Disney was perceived as the right thing. But that's the one. That's anger from the left. No, I don't know. I don't know about that. I think that's different because, and of course, I know the story. I've been to the San Francisco Disney Museum that they have. I don't know if you've been there. It's pretty sick. I mean, it's app. If you ever go to San Fran, you have to go to the Disney Museum. It's got a lot of good stuff there, but that's different. Did they call Walt Disney a Nazi or a Nazi sympathizer?

That's all I thought it was. That's all I thought it was. But that's from the left. I know what I'm saying is, there's a difference between... They're always going to target the guy at the top of any company. That comes with the territory, bro. If you're going to make a lot of money, you're going to have power, you're going to have influence. Shit's going gonna be talked about you.

This is trying to influence kids. This is different. This is the CEO saying 50% of the characters are gonna be that, that, that. That's influencing the kids in a way that scares the crap out of parents on both sides. I don't think it's political anymore, because I think regardless of your Democrat libertarian

independent Republican, you're a parent first. If you got kids and you got four kids, I got four kids. So we look at it from a different perspective. And the Florida bills has third grade. And I'm like, dude, what third grade? You shouldn't do it to high school. What we, I don't care if it's fourth grade.

You mean to tell me fourth grade is okay? And it was sex ed taught. Teach it that, health and guidance. Great. That's six or eight grade. I'm close seven grade or two levels. Yeah, there said taught teach it that health and guidance great. Is that that's six or eight great. I was seven grades to levels. Yeah, there's yeah, so the the banana and the the the condom and then you got the helping guidance.

I don't know why it's being discussed before that, to be honest. We're on the same page. I don't disagree with you. And by the way, this next story until maybe we'll take a caller. Uh, uh, John, if we have any callers, let me know if we do have call. Okay, good. So we got a, uh, a story comes out, if we have any callers, let me know if we do have call. Okay, good. So we got a story comes out, which is pretty interesting on who's going to be challenging.

So Mike Mick Mulvaney says, Ron DeSantis, Tim Scott and Duane Johnson could seriously challenge Trump. Duane Johnson, Trump in 2024. This is an insider story. Former acting White House chief of staff, Mick Mulvaney thinks just three people could seriously challenge Trump in 2024 for Florida governor DeSantis could give him a run for his money, South Carolina Tim Scott, Senator Tim Scott can give him a run for his money as well as Duane Johnson could give him a run for his money. It's a short list, by the way,

there's one other person who could beat him, which is myself. Donald Trump is, yeah, myself, himself. That's what he's talking about. Donald Trump is sometimes his own worst enemy when it comes onto campaigning. So, but my main part with this story isn't Trump. It's Dwayne, Hollywood, running. Can you see, you know, rock running for office

and being a president? Can you see something like that happen in some time? I couldn't see Trump doing it. So I think after Trump did everybody, I think anybody, Oprah could be president, you know, Musk can be president. It doesn't, you can be, for me, it's just like, who would you like to see be president?

If you're like, would you see Musk be president and if he could, I'm not talking about like, I'm not asking question like Hillary Clinton or I'm not talking political. Who would you like to question like Hillary Clinton or I'm not talking a political. Who would you like? There's a meme, maybe you can pull it up, vote for nobody. This is my political philosophy, toity, 100%. And this is what I believe is the way to the best future.

That's it. Vote for nobody. Nobody will keep election promises. Nobody will listen to your concerns. Nobody will help the porn unemployed. Nobody cares. Nobody tells the truth. That is nobody part of it. That is who I'm voting for.

Sounds like a give government less power. I like that. I kind of like that. You know who's gonna line up and vote for that party? Nobody. I am. That's you. It's one vote for you.

That's one vote for you. Are you voting for that party in your house? You don't need your house. John, if you got any callers, let's get a couple callers here. I think going to eat. That's a plea. Are you going to vote for that party in your house? You don't need your house. John, if you got any callers, let's get a couple callers here. I think you said you got a few lined up. Yeah, we have Alex on the phone. Alex, how are you?

Oh, man, what's going on, Mr. PBD? How you doing, man? I'm doing good, man. So what's your question? What's your question for our friend here? All right. So a couple things, Ethan, man,. I loved you and remember the Titans man I know people probably give you a lot of you know

Gust about that man, but I just want to tell you man You're still one of my favorite actors out there both on and off the screen One of the things I want to ask you personally this morning was Well, these are greatest psychological obstacle that you felt you had to overcome in order to encourage The transformation that you underwent? You know, I started out and it's possible because I had so many failures that I was convinced that I would fail. And I think that there's that entering into anything, believing that you'll fail, is a disaster.

It's a path to failure. So it was really kind of turning my perspective around and building small victories and ultimately having belief that I could succeed. Awesome, great question. John, let's go to the next caller. Who was it that said he who thinks he can and he who thinks he can't is usually right?

Is right, as a man think it. Isn't that as a man think it? I think that's the author. That's our, we have Aaron on the phone. Aaron, how you doing? Good, how are you guys, man? I'm good, so what's on your mind? Yeah, so just coming from somebody who's in their early 20s,

I also went like kind of through transformation, I lost more than a hundred pounds, and I'm just wondering how just wondering where advice would you give somebody in the early 20s, Ethan, to kind of prevent them from developing those bad habits again and just staying focused and just keep pushing it through, I guess. Yeah, so this is great.

And I love this because this is what I think about more than anything. For me, time and time again, I had a goal. I want to lose X amount of pounds. I lose X amount of pounds and then my goal is over and then I gain weight again because I am programmed to gain weight. So how do I unprogram myself? And really it's about having the goal be maintenance and maintenance eating within a zone where you're neither going to gain nor lose weight is much harder because it's teaching yourself basically how to eat. And that's the thing that I've worked on more than anything else because for me, losing

weight is not that hard. I eat a little bit less. It might be miserable. It's for a very short period. And then it's over. And then I eat whatever I want and I gain weight again. And it's like, how do we get out of that? So it's really having the goal be,

I don't want to be morbidly obese ever again. Okay, how do I do that? And then I could get more and more and more specific, but setting these very long-term goals rather than just, I'm gonna concentrate on this hundred pounds. Because once you're done with a hundred pounds, you've crossed the finish line, you're no longer doing it and you're just going to be doing what you were doing before that got you to the place where you needed to lose a hundred pounds.

Do you like being this guy? Like, meaning people could ask you about Hollywood movie stuff all day, but people are really fascinated by your transformation and weight loss. Do you relish that this is why people want to talk to you? I love anything that keeps me accountable. Anything. So I want to talk about weight loss as much as possible because I've lost a hundred pounds four times.

I've lost 200 pounds multiple times. And then I've gained it back and it's fucking mind shattering and destroying to wake up one day and realize I had gotten there and I went back. And so I never wanna go back again. And as much as I can talk about it, I'm happy. When's the last time you were like 300 plus or a weight you're just like, I do not like myself now.

2000, 2017 or 18. This is pretty recent. Yeah, I mean, I've maintained this for four years. That's pretty solid. For four years, I think. Keep this for four years. It's pretty solid, for four years. Keep it up, bro. Yeah. We're gonna hold you accountable. Yeah, I'll be back on you.

Better be fucking looking great. Thank you. Real quick, Alentino has the question in the chat. What do you think of Johnny Depp and the fact that he's on trial right now? Do you have any thoughts about that? I really like Johnny Depp when I worked with him. That was also over 25 or 26. He's a love, yeah, and go.

And, and he was a real sweetheart. I, I, I just, the thing, the whole thing makes me sad. He seems like a great guy and he's lost all his roles with Disney over this. And he loved being a part of Disney movies, Allison Wonderland Pirates of the Caribbean and they've ripped him out of everything because of this, this, this trial.

Yeah. And it seems like he's just getting absolutely screwed over nothing. Yeah, I it makes me very sad. I don't know what to say beyond that. I don't know the details. By the way, you know what Johnny Depp and Elon Musk have in common. They both were married or dated the same girl. Never heard. Right. Those two. I think I think she went from Johnny to Elon Musk like that it was close to the same. Yeah I don't know what's going on in the water with this chick amber heard, but yeah, we have one more call But she's doing some some magic on men go for it

John your life oh Okay, hey, how you doing John? I'm doing a styling I'm not working right now. What's on the mind? What should I have for you? Is this offer that Elon is making to Twitter to buy out the whole company with a stonishing premium? Is that too good to resist? And with Bezos owning Washington Post, is Elon go for like New York Times next you know not like CNN CNN I don't think it's very redeemable this point even with Elon at the helm But New York Times I think it'd be an opportunity for Elon to capture. I For them to let them buy New York Times

I don't think he would do New York Times because I don't think that excites him I don't think it's fast enough for him. I think New York Times is slow and it's a little older Although I think he should buy New York Times if it goes for sale, just to add it to his, portfolio of companies he's owning. The question he got asked is the following. Here's the question he got asked. When he makes an offer like that,

people wake up this morning, I just made an offer. People make an offer to buy a baseball card. People make an offer to buy a car or a house. This guy makes an offer to buy a freaking company, right? It is what I'm, good morning. Here's an offer. There's gonna be three people in that boardroom and the company. There's gonna be those who are gonna be like,

hell, yeah, I want the money, we're good, do it. Okay, then there's gonna be those in a middle that are actually processing this decision and they're not processing it from a negative place or a positive place They're just saying what does this look like? Let's negotiate the terms right? They're actually coming from a place of I want to hear both sides of the story very You know independent kind of thinking but you have to ask the question who does not want Elon to buy this?

Do you think the existing CO1's Elon to buy this? I say hell to the know Do you think the media wants to be long to buy this? You know the answer to that question. Do you think everybody in the government wants to be long to buy this? Of course not. Every time the company, the government has meetings with EV CEOs, there's only one EV CEO that don't invite. And it's the guy who created the trend of electrical vehicles.

Elon Musk and, oh, he's not invited. We missed him on the list. How the hell does that make any sense? It's like saying, let's recognize the top 50 greatest basketball players of all time and you don he's not invited. We missed him on the list. How the hell does that make any sense? It's like saying, let's recognize the top 50 greatest basketball players of all time and you don't invite Michael Jordan. What happened there? You know, it just kind of figured

we bring everybody else but Mike. So yeah, you got to ask the question on this deal getting done or not. I trust capitalism because I think the people in the middle will tilt to the right. The people on the right that are like, I'm just doing a business deal. Yeah, let's take 40%.

This is a no brainer. I mean, you gotta ask who does now want to see this happen? And how much influence are they gonna have? And how many games are they going to play to make sure Elon doesn't end up buying Twitter? That's my biggest concern. Real quick, got a $20 Super Chat passion planet. Ethan, what did you learn from the character Seth?

From the character Seth. In what movie was this? American History X. Oh, gotcha. Hi, you know I learned okay here's the honest truth. I went into it with an idea of making this guy a cartoon and caricature And I learned that I was probably better off making him a human being. He's still a little bit cartoonish

because people can be cartoonish. But I felt like at the end of the day, I wanted him to have some humanity. And that could be a bummer to people. But I think that importrarying anybody, even if you go into it knowing like, this is a guy that lines up polar opposite to me, he's still a person.

And so that was really the lesson I took away from that. I've seen that movie, I don't know how many times. It's one of the, I mean, acting, picking you. I mean, everybody in that movie was like, the father, the table, you know, when they're having the dinner or whatever that was and he gives this eight, nine minute monologue and he goes off and the father, the table, you know, when they're having the dinner or whatever that was and he gives this eight, nine minute monologue and he goes off in the scene on the sidewalk with the street.

Oh, the sidewalk in the bathroom. The ending of the movie where you're crushed as a viewer. It's an incredibly profound movie with a message that kind of like, oh, that's right, that's right. Like, oh, shit, that's right, that's right. Like, oh, shit. That could also happen. That's what I like about the movie because it's screwing up on both sides.

Everybody's kind of confused by the time the movie's done. And everybody's held accountable by the time it's movie's done. A very good movie. Where's Ed Norton these days? What's he doing? I just did a movie that he directed a few years ago called Motherless Brooklyn.

He's around. He's still doing this thing. Yeah. Yeah, but he's not as seen as much anymore. Is that purposeful? I think that's intentional. Really, why is that? Yeah, I have no idea.

Okay. I have no idea, but he could do whatever he wanted. Dude, you're in, like Pat started the episode off with all the names, right? Johnny Depp, Matthew McConaughey, well, Leonardo DiCaprio. In fact, I don't know that I ever met Matthew McConaughey. Okay, forget about McConaughey, well, Leonardo DiCaprio, in-fans, I don't know that I ever met Matthew McConaughey. Okay, forget about McConaughey, whatever, but the names are ridiculous, okay, Ed Norton,

I mean, at any point, do you just like pinch yourself, I'm like, dude, I get to work with the greatest fucking actors of our generations. I pinch myself when I'm with my kids and my wife, and I have this life that truly feels like a fairy tale to me. Like, I'm not kidding. I, there was a point in my life when I was a teenager where I thought like, what do you really want? And it'd be a wife and kids and I'd go like, yeah, that's never going to happen. That's impossible to find somebody that really loves you, to have a relationship that's

meaningful, to create children and watch them grow. And that for me honestly, is when I pinch myself and go check me out. Oh my, shit, look what I did, I can't believe it. That's all I did. That same feeling, by the way, as a father. You know it's crazy. This week we were at, with Joe for those couple days

and then we ran it at Foxboro and I'm hanging out with Patriots players and I'm having my 97-among my executives over there. We're watching Man in the Arena. Every episode we watch together for two days, and then we had Patriots players come, including Tom's one of his managers, and they talked about what it was like

to create that kind of a culture. Do you know the entire time what I was thinking about? Osama Kamenoma, Siendila, and Sinha Tiko and Senna Brooklyn. It's crazy. There's a unique feeling with family. And by the way, when you're saying like, how's the field known you've acted with all these other guys,

there's 50 million actors in the world that would love to have had the career that you've had, bro. You've had a ridiculous career. And not one year, not two year, not three years, not five years. How many years? 30 years. Dude, that's crazy to be able to say that. not three years, not five years. How many years? 30 years.

Dude, that's crazy to be able to say that. You're 46, do it, six years. Was a first gig you did. Was a first, first big movie you did. Early, first movie, Mallrats. Which was not a hit. But not a hit. But then became like the most rented movie at Blockbuster for a while.

Like it became. Same guys that did clerks. Yeah. And the whole saga that they did. Silent Bob and Jay and Silent Bob, those guys. Yeah, that movie's 30 years old. Well, very cool, man. This has been great. Having you on, brother.

This was fantastic. Learning about you, learning about your story, and where you're at today. You are an inspiration. I saw a video of you on men's fitness with nine and a half, 10 million views. You're literally inspiring tens of millions of people. That's very, very because, you know,

we had David Burlinsky here yesterday, and I said, how do you describe to your son what it is to be a man? Like what is it? What is the purpose of a man's life? And he gave, you know, his example of you should be like your grandfather, because his grandfather was like a man. Like what is it? What is the purpose of a man's life? And he gave, you know, his example of you should be like your grandfather, because his grandfather was like a legend.

He was like, he was a man's man. But I think a part of life as a man, human being, is to inspire others who are going through challenge and times that don't think there's any way to get out of it. And you're like almost in a spider web and you're stuck and you're trying to, it's like that nightmare you have where you're trying to run on a bad guy's chasing you just can't move you're like stuck like this and some people are living that in their real life and a guy like you is inspiring literally tens of millions of people props to you.

Of course you got an incredible resume, beautiful family that you built and what you're doing with your family. The last few sentiments you gave about that and having worked with a lot of different guys in the industry. But, you know, at the end of the day, we somehow, some way we want to inspire others to also, you know, do something with our lives,

just like we did, you're doing that. It's powerful, it's powerful. Brother, great having you on the podcast. My pleasure. Thanks for having me. Yeah, this was a blast. I don't don't know when when is our do we doing something next Tuesday or no? So next Tuesday I'm going all you're out of town out of town all next week. Oh shoot. Okay Friday. We may have Joe Rogan's buddy. Yeah. Oh Tony. Oh, man. I had such a good I saw

I almost let me tell you I'll tell you one story. I literally, I'm watching Tony perform, and Joe got us tickets from run-up, sitting, I'm like, Tony tells the joke, he says, you know, I get a, the other day, one of my good friends was very disappointed, and he calls me, was upset. I said, what's that?

He says, man, I'm not gonna lie to you. I found out my wife and I were expecting a kid and it's gonna be a girl and I'm heartbroken because I wanted a boy. He says really, he says yeah, he says, don't worry, now it is just be patient. She may end up being a boy. Oh my God.

Oh my God. He was unreal on how good he was. So maybe we'll have with him on Friday and then. Well, we are not here next week, you're out of town. Oh, seriously, I know I'm out of town. He was unreal on how good he was. So maybe we'll have him on Friday and then. Well, we are not here next week. You're out of town. Oh, seriously, I had no, I know I'm out of town. I just didn't know we're not doing nothing next.

Okay. Well, listen, I'll show you one thing here that we got since we're not gonna be with you. I got so many things I wanna talk to the guys about. We have so many topics YouTube. We just got for this channel. Of course, we have this for, we have a hundred thousand thing for like five other channels.

We have one with three million, but we just got one for the podcast podcast which is all because of you guys. We just crossed a hundred thousand for the pod Right across it. You're gonna be Yeah, one of the seven covers and you too running late. You know what we should do. Here's what we should do Maybe maybe we do something like if we Let's put a timeline when we get to 250 we invite a couple of the listeners to the podcast on joining us with the guests that we're gonna have maybe will announce that on the next time but this will happen without you guys obviously adam you've been on a lot of these podcasts every guest every

co-host we've had everybody that we've had on it's a help with all those folks that have worked together on helping the podcast and the guys in the back but we got a couple other things that just came in i think adam got a gift we open up this i don't know yet don't even know what this is they just brought you know what it is I've zero clue. Let me see what this is from the desk of DJ Anthony Let me see what this is oh Oh, oh you got a certificate of completion

What is this thing here? Hey pat or whoever's reading this you recently asked on one of your shows for viewers to send in something for the new studio and his shelving I thought a nice certificate would go on the display shelving the best part is you can choose who receives the soy boy award You know who's getting this anyways great show you and your crew are an inspiration and not because of money But because of your friendship and family continued success. Oh check out my YouTube channel too. Wellness week Well, thank you for this. He sent this out. I think this obviously certificate publicly. Adam goes to use this. Congratulations. So, boy, extraordinary. DJ Anthony, respect to you, bro. How many people for achieving falls? Just think about boys. Just think about the level of enlightenment. How many

people woke up today went to work? Yeah. And they got a certificate for soy boys. Not a lot of them. Yeah. As a good part of an elite community. That's not a lot of them. Yeah. And your apartment elite community. A lot of employees and fast food restaurants are the employee of the week and the employee of the month. I'm the soy boy of the year. I am still curious to know who gave that comment of him being a soy boy because they started something bigger

than them. And we'll tell you. I had high expectations for this episode. And I think we exceeded those with the respect to look at that. Respect to you, bro. I thought you just changed the subject. I thought it was gonna go so well. And then oh my god. No, the central boys, the central roles are artists

who love creating fun, we're gonna buy Tim and the PVD podcasts, our fans are at your dedication entrepreneurship in the whole setting and making dreams to become a reality is a true inspiration to us. We were on one casual trading cards, we were thrilled to see your passion for collecting cards. Yes, as fans, we are These scenarios are delivered so you're custom trading cards as a gift custom trading cards as a gift. Okay, now I have no clue what this is by the way.

The guys told me you got to do this on camera. Not only do we print out actual P.B.D trading cards, but we actually minted them as NFTs on the blockchain, on OpenC, on our own account, the QR code on the back of each trading card will direct you to the web page of each individual NFT. If you choose to claim your free NFT each card, you can simply reach out to him and say, I'm gonna add some, okay, let's see what the says, that's pretty sick. I said, we've got here, man, I'm a duke like cards or no. No, did I love cards, like crazy cards.

All right, let's see what this is. Ah. Ah. Ah. Ah. Ah. Ah. Oh my gosh. How do I open this? Oh, that picture just looks... Oh my.

You guys... You playing baseball. Dude. But I've never played organized baseball. These guys are just... They're like... How do you open this? Can you open?

Okay, there we go. Is it a one-gid-side, one-gid-side card? Oh, my God. Can this shit? Can you open? Okay, there we go. Is it a one-gazard? Oh, my God. Can't this shit. P-B-D, look at like Ty Cobb over here. Amazing. Look at this. I'm a formula one.

They created this stuff. Oh, this is an error. Value-tame and P-B-D entrepreneur. And it's an NFT. It's literally NFT. Okay, we got a few of them. Unbelievable. Look at this one here.

I look like a, that, man, this is me. Look at, look at like Senna right here. This is something for itself. Well, first of all, Toshi and the boys, you guys are freaking sick. This is awesome. This is ridiculous. I love this gift.

Thank you guys. Much love to you guys. And we are definitely going to go out there and look at the QR code and claim it. Tyler, can you put your handle in the comments section so people can find them? The central boys, like central, the central, central boys with a Z,

boys with a Z, the central boys as their Instagram account and their Twitter account. Fela, thank you for this, appreciate you for, freaking sick you for freaking sick. Yes, I love it. You need gifts Anyways, I wasn't gonna do it today with you because this was about you I normally wouldn't open up a gift with a guest, but we're not here next week So we're kind of doing this today But I had a blast gang. We'll miss you next week. We may be together on Friday. Take everybody. Bye bye bye bye We may be together on Friday.

Take care everybody. Bye bye, bye, bye, bye, bye.