PBD Podcast - Afghan SHOOTS DC National Guard, Candace's Macron Claim + Trump vs Seditious Six | PBD Podcast | Ep. 692
Episode Date: November 28, 2025Patrick Bet-David, Tom Ellsworth, Vincent Oshana, and Adam Sosnick break down the DC National Guard shooting by an Afghan migrant, Candace Owens’ claims about the alleged Macron assassination attemp...t, and President Trump’s escalating fight against the“Seditious Six.”------🎄VT BLACK FRIDAY SALE: https://bit.ly/43QADrm📕 REGISTER FOR BPW 2025 - FRIDAY, DECEMBER 12TH 2025: https://bit.ly/3IU2YWxⓂ️ CONNECT ON MINNECT: https://bit.ly/4kSVkso Ⓜ️ PBD PODCAST CIRCLES: https://bit.ly/4mAWQAP🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON SPOTIFY: https://bit.ly/4g57zR2🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON ITUNES: https://bit.ly/4g1bXAh🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON ALL PLATFORMS: https://bit.ly/4eXQl6A🥃 BOARDROOM CIGAR LOUNGE: https://bit.ly/4pzLEXj🍋 ZEST IT FORWARD: https://bit.ly/4kJ71lc 📕 PBD'S BOOK "THE ACADEMY": https://bit.ly/41rtEV4👔 BET-DAVID CONSULTING: https://bit.ly/4lzQph2 📺 JOIN THE CHANNEL: https://bit.ly/4g5C6Or💬 TEXT US: Text “PODCAST” to 310-340-1132 to get the latest updates in real-time! ABOUT US:Patrick Bet-David is the founder and CEO of Valuetainment Media. He is the author of the #1 Wall Street Journal Bestseller “Your Next Five Moves” (Simon & Schuster) and a father of 2 boys and 2 girls. He currently resides in Ft. Lauderdale, Florida.
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I feel I'm supposed to take sweetly.
I know this life's meant for me.
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I think I've ever said this before.
Okay, listen, if you're joining us this morning,
after Thanksgiving.
I have so much respect for you.
You're part of the crazy crowd
because last night you probably
had a lot of turkey, gravy,
all the good stuff that comes with it.
And by the way, go Joe Burrow.
Comes back and beats Baltimore
and has a couple touchdowns, which I loved.
I loved.
And I was surprised that the Cowboys took out
the Chiefs while Mahomes had four touchdowns
and played lights out.
And we had a turkey bowl yesterday
with a soccer tournament.
We have a winner later on.
I'll show the picture of the champions
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a lot of stuff that's going on. New York Times decides to do a story, Vinny, saying that the
president is maybe getting tired. What? He's tired, like he's tired, like he's
fatigue. So, by the way, can I ask you everybody a question? What were you doing last night
at, like this morning at 1210? What were you doing? This morning midnight at 1210? Well,
there's a guy named President Donald J. Trump that wrote a novel last night. Some call her the
tweet, okay? This tweet, Rob, if you want to put it up, can you go a little bit higher? It is so long
that multiple people ask Grok, can you please give me the Venezuelan version of this, the shorter
version because of how long the tweet was trying to tell everybody around the world, what are you
doing at midnight? Me, Donald J. Trump, at midnight, I'm writing a novel. I bet you're knocked out right
now after all the turkey and the food that you ate. Who knows? Maybe that's what the case was.
Joy Reed, which I would say, I don't know a lot of people that have the natural, like, animosity towards the opposition like Joy Reed does, the bitterness, right?
Maybe her and Michelle can compete for it sometimes because every time you hear Michelle, it's always like people are after her hair, they're after, nobody cares, just go live your life, you're young, you can do things.
But Joy Reed comes out and says J.D. Vance may dump.
She called his wife the brown Hindu
Wife for a white queen
She called J.D. Vance's wife a brown Hindu
Is that not racism? Brown Hindu
Like brown Hindu
Why would you? Who cares? He's going to dump his wife
But that's Joy Reid for you, said that
And by the way, Tom has a theory of why he thinks comments like this are being made
Putin convinced Trump to not send Ukraine Tomahawks to call a motion by Whitkoff
Trump backs Whitkoff after leak reveals he advised
Vice Ta Putinate on Ukraine deal.
Scott Jennings presses Democrat to name illegal order Trump issued.
And by the way, Stephen A. Smith went off on a caller.
Lights out.
He went off on a caller.
And all I want to know is Stephen A, where did you get that shirt from?
But he went off on a caller, okay?
Went off on a caller about that.
And he was, he was, we have to play later on rock for the audience to see this.
FBI seeking to interview Senator Mark Kelly and other Democrats.
accuse of seditious behavior.
High school girls are shifting away from marriage and happily ever after.
And obviously we all know the tragic event that took place the last couple of days.
The shooting, a man who was trained CIA in Afghanistan, who was here since 2021,
goes up in D.C., shoots two National Guard soldiers in the head while screaming,
aloh-a-ab and then one dies she died and the other one is in critical condition and there's a
lot of stories here i've not seen president trump do a press conference this upset at people the
way he reacted to it this is thanksgiving day before thanksgiving you have to watch his clips as we
go through it our our prayers goes out to that national guard that served who's no longer here
with us imagine the day that happened you're sitting there being thankful and then boom that's the news
What would that do to anybody?
What a way to go, and we'd love to learn more about the family
so we can find a way to help support the family
as they're going through this tragic times
with what just took place.
Next story, Candace Owens, accuses macrones of choreographing
one and a half million dollar assassination plot against her,
deadly serious, she says,
Candice Owens puts off her show for,
puts her show off air
after she claims the mail of Macron,
tried to harm her and was tied to Charlie Kirk's debt.
So that's that story.
And then we got national, okay, we'll cover that.
Alejandro Mayorkas once admitted,
not all of Biden's Afghans vetted in person.
There is two videos that we're going to watch today.
One of them is with Lindsey Graham,
when he is questioning Majorcas,
which you were talking about yesterday, Vinny Has it.
And then another one will play for you as well
to see what happened here.
Then there's a guy named Bill Crystal,
who is a rhino
and he tweeted something about
Charlie Kirk in 2021
that didn't age well.
We'll share that for you as well to see
just a hack, a political
hack who
is going around commenting things like that
about a man, Charlie Kirk,
who did so much for the youth of America,
you just have to see this tweet.
We'll play that for you as well here in a minute.
And we got billboards using National Guardsmen
to refuse orders from Trump administration
sprout around the country.
Cracker Barrel CEO says she felt like she got fired by America after redesigned backlash.
Lowe's CEO predicts home renovation on the rise in 2026.
If this is the Lowe CEO that I think it is, he's an absolute stud of a guy that family is.
Meta employees compared themselves to drug pushers as company buried mental health harms to
kids, unsealed docks.
Weird.
And we got a couple of the things that will.
play here. Netflix steps up, charm offensive to buy Warner Brothers and a couple other items.
And anyways, we have that. And then over here, I got a couple other stories. Tucker Carlson,
I have a theory with Tucker Carlson with his recent interview with Nick Fuentes, Pierce Morgan.
Yes, Pierce Morgan. I have a theory. I'll share with you. Maybe it's off, maybe it's not,
but have some thoughts on that as well. And with that being said, let's get into the podcast.
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With that being said, let's get right into our first story.
The first story is what just happened, the tragic event that took place to the two National Guard members,
which this story here says are in critical condition after Washington, D.C. shooting.
Well, unfortunately, both were shot in the head by an Afghani national Rahmanullah Lakhanwal,
who came here in 2021, was a CIA trained in Afghanistan.
prior to that, he puts two bullet in a National Guard's head, one of them dies, she's no longer
with us, which we will recognize him here in a minute after President Trump's video, and the other
one is in critical condition. And when he shot them, he screamed, Allaha Akbar. Here's President
Trump reacting to it. Go for it, Rob.
I must unfortunately tell you that just seconds before I went on, right now I heard that
Sarah Bextram of West Virginia, one of the guardsmen that we're talking about, highly respected,
young, magnificent person, started service in June of 2023.
Outstanding in every way, she's just passed away.
She's no longer with us.
She's looking down at us right now.
Her parents are with her.
This just happened.
She was savagely attacked.
She's dead.
It's not with us.
Incredible person.
Outstanding in every single way in every department.
It's horrible.
Okay.
Tom, thoughts on this story here of what happened, this tragic story.
So I'm going to go a little bit deeper.
First of all, we're with you.
We have parents that are so proud to see their daughter, take the oath,
join the National Guard.
It's on a patrol in Washington, D.C.
You have to remember what they were doing in Washington, D.C. first.
They were on patrol there making a city safe, serving fellow citizens, making a city safe.
And by all accounts, you had a city that was completely different for the average citizen that was there.
And you had the mayor and other people having to admit it, not being covered immediately, but having to admit it.
And she goes out there to serve, and it's her first day of service.
She gets paired up because you have the patrols with the buddy system.
and out there patrolling, just trying to keep it safe,
and this trained individual with military training comes up
and does execution-style hit on both of them.
And it's horrifying.
So my first thoughts is with parents that were so proud on one minute,
but they're now thrust in the middle of national headlines
and grieving the loss of their daughter.
Now I get to what happened.
I am really worried that we are in the early inning,
of a color revolution.
I am really worried
that this could be a false flag operation
that this guy was used by the intelligence
community. I'm worried. Do I have facts?
No, do I have documents? No. But I am
really worried when I see things like this
that are designed to incent us
to get up there. And when I look at color
revolutions and false flags,
they talk about delegitimizing
leadership. Check, they're after Trump.
They talk about making illegitimate
which is actually normal
governance. Check. They talk about
you know, cause the military to defect and get a small sect of the military willing to go
against the leadership.
Check the seditious six.
It's a playbook and trigger defections within those groups.
Check.
So I see all this stuff and you may say, hey, Tom, you're seeing shadows in the distance.
I don't think so.
I really worry that there's a color revolution going on.
I worry that there's something going on and that this could be a false flag op that's part of it.
because false flags are designed to get the public really angry about something so that they are okay with the steps that happen next.
And this kind of scares me. I'm not alone.
General Michael Flynn wrote a very long piece on it that says, Mr. President, things can be happening out here.
And nobody is talking about General Michael Flynn being like the conspiracy of the weak guy.
He's not.
And he's out there talking about, we've got to be careful about this stuff and see what's really going on.
But I'm really concerned that the news media...
Very interesting angle you're taking, Tom.
News media is more worried about who's fault is it for the immigration than what's behind it.
Very, very interesting.
So, Vinnie, I'll come to you.
What do we know about the individual that killed one of these national guards and shot the other one they had?
So this shooter, Rahmala, I don't even want to say, I can care less.
He was a CIA-backed Kandahar Strike Force vet per leaked ID and Ratcliffe, who's the,
Director of the CIA, I believe, in a Fox interview confirmed that he had, and I quote, ties to the CIA as part of a partner, force, and Kandahar.
Okay, so we know who this guy was, Pat.
And again, going to Thomas Point, God rest her soul.
Can you imagine everybody was with their family, everybody was hanging out?
Imagine that family's Thanksgiving.
Take a second and just stop and imagine that.
You're prepping for Thanksgiving.
Everything's happening.
And then that happens.
Are you going to have a regular Thanksgiving dinner?
Are you guys all going to be having fun?
No, because they have to do burial plans and funeral plans for this girl.
So God rest her soul.
Pat, I'm going to go.
I love where you went, Tommy.
I'm going to take another even step back.
How is this guy here?
And let's talk about that.
All this.
Besides the fact that they're doing that, she was doing her job.
And the crime is significantly down.
And the people of Washington actually like it.
This was all a plan, tactical invasion,
from Alejandro Mayorkas
and the Biden administration, okay?
Besides the open border, let's take that
and put that to the side.
How horrible was the Afghani withdrawal?
Take a second and think about that.
Okay, that was the way of Biden's first.
At least he stopped the war.
Did you guys see the videos
of the worst withdrawal ever?
And 60,000 of these people,
Rob, can you show the photo?
I sent you on Slack of that plane.
Guys, remember when the plane was taken off, Pat?
People are running by that C-130.
People were hanging on and jumping off and dying, okay?
That's it.
This is Trump's tweet.
This is part of a horrendous airlift from Afghanistan.
Hundreds of thousands of people poured into the country, totally unvetted and unchecked.
We will fix it, but we'll never forget what cricket Joe Biden and these thugs did to our country.
And if you guys think about this, we bomb the hell out of a country, okay?
Then you're going to let's-
Who the hell hires like that?
Who recruits like that?
Who hired?
Always bring it down to the most simplest,
concept. What company, if you ever started, would you just say, here, hire those 600 people,
don't vet them, don't interview them, don't call references? Common sense. So if anybody watches
and says, what's wrong with that? These guys are fighting for their lives. Would you hire like
that? Would you hire like that without running references, without running background checks,
without running credit reports, without seeing their resumes, without having them being interviewed
by two or three people? Would you do that? That's what America did under Biden. That means we
hired these people without any references to come here. And there may be your neighbors living
right next to you. Vinny, I didn't want to interrupt you. But to me it just doesn't make any sense.
No, it's not interruption. That's called you piggybacked and that's exactly it. When you bomb the
hell out of them for their poppy fields and al-Qaeda and all that stuff, how pissed off do you think
if you let 60,000 in? What would you say? 25% are like F America come back. And by the way,
they did it on purpose. I'm telling you right now, there's no other explanation for
why the border was wide open and why would you let them in unless you wanted them to do
exactly what the hell this piece of you know what did you give them all cell phones and you go
hey listen go welcome to america and just wait if we need you we'll call you and the moment this
happened tom keith kai i want to go by the numbers i went where's jorosos linked is soros linked is
soros linked to this and automatically george soros linked NGO world relief is the name of it
funded the settlement of the national guard shooter that rama that whatever the hell his name is
in Washington State from Afghanistan.
World Relief has received U.S. taxpayer dollars to U.S.A.I.D.
Okay, just I knew he was going to be tied to it at some point.
But let's just go back to the withdrawal.
They were so proud.
They wanted the headline.
They rushed a country that 20 years we've been bombing them and killing their people.
They left $85 billion worth of gear left in the hands of the Taliban.
75,000 vehicles, trucks, armored units,
600,000 weapons, more than 200 aircraft, night vision, drones, radios that we arm the Taliban.
And then you'll let this guy come in and weird.
He has ties with the CIA and he does this type of.
Can I add one thing right in there and then finish what you're saying?
I'm not interrupting me, adding something.
Would the CIA or the intelligence community been able to send that kind of military equipment over to them if they try to get it through Congress and appropriations?
No.
So, I've got an idea.
Let's push all the military to withdraw.
draw and just leave it there.
Yeah, and give them the weapon. You got your stuff.
Yeah, and give it the weapon. So I, enough of this.
Gad's sad, Pat said a good thing is this, this suicidal empathy, this, bring them in love.
I'm sorry, guys. I am sorry. We cannot do this crap. You can't, we can't survive.
And Trump just paused. I believe Trump just paused.
On Thursday, he said he was suspend migration from what he called third world countries.
Because, guys, and I'm sorry about your sadness.
you know that saying a few bad apples ruined the bunch
it's over okay too bad
I'm sorry the damage is done
20,000 people are here
we don't know and then I know Pat we're going to get to the videos
when Alejandro Mayorkas was in and I sat in this chair
and I told you guys with that stupid look he had
it was a purposeful invasion and nobody said shit
and the majority of the Democrats were like
they kept quoting the statute of liberty
bring them in bring them in well guess what
Now they're walking up to freaking American soldiers and shooting them in the head.
I'll give you two.
I'll give you two.
Watch.
The Dems wanted to bring in votes because they think they're just bringing in refugees
that are going to be turned into voters.
The Dems think, oh, they're just refugees, right?
Yeah.
And the intelligence community says, you know what?
We can hide right in the middle of this.
We will be the, the intelligence community is sending in the raisins and the muffin.
The muffin is all the voters that the Dems are trying to bring in through this kind of invasion
immigration. They don't think they're
and there are Dems that honestly do not believe
they're bringing in bad people. They honestly believe they were
just bringing in refugees. The intelligence
community hides in the middle and says
guess what? In the middle of that shit, you know what we can
do? We can hide our guys. Of course.
Rob, I want you to play this clip and then Adam
I'm coming to you. So here's a president
snaps at an individual
asking them a question and says
are you a stupid person? Watch this. Go ahead.
were brought into the U.S., so why do you blame the Biden administration?
Because they let them in. Are you stupid? Are you a stupid person? Because they came in on a
plane, along with thousands of other people that shouldn't be here, and you're just asking questions
because you're a stupid person. And there's a law passed that it's almost impossible not to get them out.
You can't get them out once they come in.
Okay, so that's his reaction. You can tell.
He's pissed.
By the way, when was this?
This was yesterday, sir.
By the way, on Thanksgiving.
On Thanksgiving. He's working.
On Thanksgiving, he's working and taking press conference.
Not just partnering the turkey.
Not just doing the camera type of stuff that's kissing babies.
He's sitting there answering questions with the crisis that's taking place.
Imagine how he's feeling right now.
Adam, your thoughts.
I'll tell you why this situation is just so unsettling.
Despite the fact that it happened on Thanksgiving,
I totally understand why Trump is so pissed.
I'll tell you why this is so.
unsettling because this isn't just another shooting it's almost like a combination of every issue
we face as a country culminating into one tragedy two blocks from the white house on thanksgiving
so let me count the ways real quick so this is evidence of a broken immigration's and vetting
system domestic terrorism open borders lone wolf domestic terrorism at that islamic terrorism
a.k.a. jihad as he yells
Allah Akbar as he offs
two national guardsmen. Let me
count the ways continue. Mental health
crisis, gun violence,
anti-police, anti-national
guards, trained by the
CIA? What? After a
debacle of 20 years in Afghanistan
where we spent 20 years
doing what? So the Taliban
can reclaim their power
there? Trillions spent
two national guards shot in the head
all while this. Foreign
national Afghanis.
Illegal.
Al-A Akbar as he shoots
two national guardsmen in the head
on Thanksgiving. If I'm
Trump, I'm pissed as hell. And any
American should be pissed as hell. Now, let's do this.
Let's do this. Rob, if you don't mind
going to two
interviews of Majorcas
being interviewed, being
asked about how many of these guys were vetted,
and the way he answered those questions
in the most pompous way, this is Josh
Holley's one of them. There's two of them.
There's another one as well.
Rob, but let's start off with that one first. Go ahead and play this clip. Is this him asking
questions about how many of these guys were checked out? Okay, watch this. Procedure is an in-person
interview for refugees or visa applicants. Now, you've testified that you're not doing those
interviews. Not at all. That they're not happening. Not at all. You are correct that we are not
conducting in-person full refugee interviews of 100% of the individual. What percentage are you
conducting? I don't have that information. What number have been interviewed?
What we are doing.
Wait, wait, wait, what number of the more than 60,000 brought to the country?
What number have received an in-person interview before they came to the country?
He's telling me this.
Because you said 100% are screened.
So what percentage have been given an actual interview by a trained official before they come to the country?
When you're speaking of a full refugee-like interview, I don't have that data.
By the way, are you following what's happening to people who've been brought to this country?
September 19th, the female U.S. service member was assaulted by a group of male Afghan evacuees
house at Fort Bliss. September 5th, the report from your office, the DHS, from U.S. officials at intake
sitters in Wisconsin identified numerous incidents in which Afghan girls have been presented to
authorities as the underage wives of much older men. Other reports of assaults and rapes by Afghan men
for Afghan girls, these are some of the folks who have been brought here because they haven't been
screened because you haven't conducted interviews
don't you think that's a problem? There are two
things that can happen. That's that.
That's that. Now, watch this
next one. This is Lindsey Graham, and by the way,
we can talk
about the story all day, but we can
go to what Charlie Kirk
said about this rap. I'm going to send you, if you go
to Tom's Twitter profile,
Tom's doing a great job on Twitter. If you guys don't follow
Tom on Twitter, go follow Tom on Twitter.
He posted something about Bill Crystal.
Bill Crystal
retweeted a video. Did you
you find a video go right there so tom says never forget never let them forget what an irredeemable
p o s and i'm sure you guys don't know what p o s is so bill crystal go on him okay and the post with
okay so this is what charlie kirk said august 16th 2021 rob if you can play this clip okay watch this
folks go for it no biden's department of defense will accept 30 000 afghan refugees in the military
installations following the collapse of Kabul. Boom. Political transformation. Let the country
crumble. Do you know there's five million displaced people in Afghanistan now? This was all
intentional. Joe Biden let it fall apart to now say, oh, I'm so sorry. I guarantee you Joe Biden's
speech this afternoon will talk about refugee assistance and relocation support. Now Joe Biden's
going to be scrambling to make good on it, and the liberal media will love it. They'll say,
oh, yes, okay, now I get it. Joe Biden is now fixing his own problem. Joe Biden is stepping up
and he's allowing a flow of people from the Middle East into America. Thank you, Joe Biden.
You're such a hero, so benevolent, you're so respectful, you're so compassionate. Do you see what's
going on here? Okay, pause this. Now watch what Bill Crystal, who is a rhino, who's a old-school
near monger, neocon. Look at this. Almost every Afghan refugee will turn out to be so much
better an American than Charlie Kerr.
Such a stupid comment.
And by the way, do you know who this guy is?
Last night, I'm asking all of you guys, who the hell is this guy?
I'm reading his profile to see who he is.
This guy had a heavy position.
This wasn't a regular guy.
He was a neo-conservative, of course, but he was a Bush White House, National Security
Think Tank, co-founded by Liz Cheney, and I mean, he was a board of emergency committee
for Israel, all these other things that you hear with this guy here.
And you read him.
he played a leading role in the defeat of Clinton Healthcare Plan 93,
as well as advocating for 2003 invasion of Iraq.
Advocate of invading Iraq in 03.
Flag carrier he was.
Yeah, Chief of staff to the vice president.
Chief of staff to the vice president.
This isn't a regular person saying something like that about Charlie Kirk.
And then Lindsey Graham, who, you know, Vinny said it correctly yesterday with Lindsay.
Lindsay is not somebody that you sit there and you say, you know,
But here's a very good moment that Lindsay had, Rob, if you want to play this.
Was Afghanistan as successful withdrawal?
Senator, the evacuation that the Department of Defense and the Department of State led was historic in evacuating so many individuals.
Of those that are evacuated, how many of them were vetted before they got on the plane?
Senator, it is our policy to that's a simple question.
How many of them were vetted before they got on the plane?
Out of Afghanistan?
Yeah.
Cannot speak to that.
So you can't tell us how many people were vetted before they got on the plane to come to America.
Oh, I'm sorry.
If you're speaking of a plane to come to America.
So, guys, I lived in Iran 11 years.
I go to Germany.
I live at refugee camp.
We waited since 1984 to get a green card.
You know how much vetting they have to do?
Finally in 1990, November 28, we come to the States.
My mom applied for the green card since 84 for us to come to America.
We want to leave America, Iran, a long time ago because they didn't want me to serve the military.
Just think about this.
If you're running an apartment complex, you're the manager of an apartment complex, and you have 300 open units, what do you do to get those tenants in?
Tell me what you do.
Maybe you've never done the job.
I've never done the job.
What do you do?
You vet the new tenants.
Now, what is bigger than an apartment, a city?
What's bigger than a city, a state.
What's bigger than a state?
A country.
How many people came through?
What was the number that came through during that time, Rob?
I've heard some numbers from 18,000 to 71,000 to 34,000.
I've heard so many of these.
Tell me if you're running a country and you're the greatest country in the world
that everybody and their mothers is trying to get a source.
Social Security card to America to come here because it's the greatest, the American dream.
They want to come here.
Why would the greatest country in the world just say, let them in here?
Whose neighbors are they going to be?
76,000 evacuated Afghans on a humanitarian parolees.
76,000 people that came in.
That's being conservative.
Some are saying the number is 200,000.
They're your neighbors.
They're living in your community.
there's some of the guys are trying to blame and they're saying the fact that these national guards the people that got shot and killed this is on trump this is on trump this is his fault if he wouldn't have put the national guard out there in dc this would have never happened that would have still been been here with us do you realize what a dumb argument that is what a dumb argument that is he is making the city safer for people on the left right and the center and out there saying let's point so to me tom what you just said about the color
color revolution at the beginning, something's going on here.
Even yesterday, they asked them about Somalians.
President Trump, you can tell already, he's like, he's not even having it.
I don't know if you saw the clip with Somalians, Rob.
If you don't have it, I'll send it to you.
It's in the notes of when somebody asking Somalians have caused a lot of trouble.
Is that the one, Rob?
I think that's the one.
Yeah, go for it.
Watch this one here.
Go ahead, Rob.
Many of these people are criminals.
Many of these people are people that shouldn't be here.
And many of them have been gotten out.
I mean, we've gotten out some, a lot of the people that, you know, we've taken a lot of them out here.
But they came in, yeah, I know, this deal, sorry, many are wonderful, yeah, I'm sure.
I said many are here legally, though.
What should they think in terms of their prospect?
Well, they can't be happy, okay?
They can't be happy.
Because what's taking place between that, if you look at Somalia, they're taking over Minnesota.
And they are, what's going to do with Somalia?
We got a lot of problems with the gangs, with, with,
All of the things taking place in Minnesota, we have an incompetent governor, a dope, we have a dope governor.
They can't be happy about what's going on.
And if you talk about the Afghans, you know, there's a problem because so many bad ones came in on the planes.
They just walked on, whoever the strongest people were physically in a way, but whoever the strongest, they got on the planes, there was no checking.
They just swamped the planes.
They took off.
We had no idea who they were.
Yeah, do you want to ask you?
a question behind?
Me?
Hi, sir.
Happy Thanksgiving.
What did the Somalians have to do with this Afghan guy who shot the national...
Nothing, but Somalians have caused a lot of trouble.
They're ripping us off for a lot of money.
There's a tremendous amount of money going back to Somalia.
For terror?
What the hell are we paying money to Somalia for?
But they're ripping off our country at a level that few people have been able to see before.
That's about the only thing you talk about competence.
We have Ilhan Omar.
Omar, who does nothing but complain about our country and our
Constitution, and she comes from a country with practically
it's practically no country. It's devastated, it's crime
ridden, it's a mess, it's a disgrace, and
we took their people, but tremendously, we're not taking their people anymore.
You know it's the most frustrating thing about this entire thing, Pat?
The accountability that the Democrats, it seems
to me that they can do
anything that they want, all this invasion, everything, and nothing ever happens, Pat.
And then the ones that get in trouble, Comey, Letitia James, Fannie Willis, they all just got,
what is it called? Their case is all dismissed. It's as if it drives me crazy, and I can't
express this enough to anybody listening. I don't care. And it's politics. You people say,
I don't want to get involved with politics. Politics is involved with you. And I'm not naive,
I'm not naive that the left
is going to get back in power
but it's our job and that's why our
podcast is so freaking important
try as hard and as long as we can
never let them have power again
because the moment they get in
they're going to do the same shit
they're going to open the border number one
if you don't think any
Democrat person
candidate that's not going to be their first order
business you know what they're going to say we love
we love America open it back up
don't ever forget what they did in Texas
they tried to put barbed wire, they sent,
the White House sent bulldozers to pick it up
and say, get your illegal asses in here.
And I'm sorry, one apple could ruin the bunch.
And my heart goes out, as legal parents,
you came in legally, so to my parents and my grandparents.
They're messing it up for your whole freaking Afghan crew.
And I'm sorry.
So you want to get rid of people from third world countries.
Do it.
Enough is enough.
Enough is enough.
How many people have to get shot?
This is the beginning.
You nailed it, Tom.
They're slowly starting to do it.
And by the way, what's interesting about,
about this whole thing, Tom, is the timing of it.
Go ahead, Tom.
No, no, keep going.
I'm on your thinking thread right now.
What's strange about this whole thing is the timing of it.
You take this, then you take what Mark Kelly said, that, hey, you know, don't take the orders,
or you can question it, you can do this.
And then Scott Jennings comes out and asks this one lady a simple question, because that's
what they're trying to get to.
simple question she does not know what to say watch this exchange you with the great scott jennings
the only reason that the fbi is even looking into this is to chill speech that's exactly what it is
he wants these people to stop he wants to he wants other members of congress to potentially he wants
to silence democratic members of congress and other elected leaders on speaking out against trump
when it comes to wait can i ask you a question stop what you said they want them to stop
Stop what?
They want them to stop speaking out.
So you said speaking out against Trump.
So you're saying that you believe that inherent in the video is that Donald Trump has given illegal orders.
No, actually what I will say about them.
Because what Abby argues is is that they're just stating a fact, but you're saying it's speaking against Trump.
If it's speaking against Trump in other ways, then you took the message the way they intended it.
You took it the way they intended it, which is that Trump has given illegal orders and you can't name one and nobody else can.
Hold on.
Let me just say that.
Congress has a role in ensuring that there are whistleblower.
protection when people come out.
So you believe there are illegal?
When something, I'm not saying there is.
I'm saying in the Biden administration.
I'm saying in the Biden administration, there were whistleblowers.
In other administrations, there have been.
Okay, so the other guy says, I believe there's illegal orders.
But Stephen A. Smith, whom we had a very good dinner with this last week.
Great conversation.
Great combo.
Yeah, great conversation.
Oh, gee.
He has a caller calls in.
And he breaks it down in three different areas in a most incredible way.
wearing that phenomenal shirt.
Go ahead and play this clip, Rob.
Stephen A, where did you get that shirt from?
This is his Wednesday political show on Sirius.
Watch this.
Respectfully, Senator, what the hell are you doing?
Looking into the camera
and telling military men and women
to ignore the commander-in-chief?
How dare you?
How dare you do that?
Rob, is this the call? This is not the caller.
That's right. I'm calling out. I never served.
This is not the caller.
So there's a guy that calls in.
Okay, there's a guy that calls in and says, go ahead, call her, and it goes straight to the caller.
You'll see it.
And you have to listen to this caller, okay?
I have it.
If you don't have it, I can text it to you.
Is that the caller?
No, this is it, Rob.
Go ahead.
Greg Alabama, you're live with Stephen A.
What's up, Greg?
Stephen A, it's a pleasure to talk to you, my man.
I've been a big fan for you for years and years.
Thank you.
So I'm a service member, and I can't really speak too much on this, but if I decide a direct order from my commanding officer, we get Article 15, right?
There's a whole thing we do, right?
But for a senator to say to tell us service members to defy direct orders, our commanders who we follow do not have a choice.
because if they defy those direct orders, then they lose their career.
Thank you.
So the center's asking us to lose our career.
This point is made after, this point is made after he snaps at him.
The clip is when he's calling him, what happened with Nazis, what happened with Nazi Germany,
what happened with all this stuff, and then all of a sudden, Stephen A just blows up at the sky at the beginning of that phone call that was made, that call that was made.
Watch this year.
Go ahead, Rob.
Eugene and Washington, you're live with Stephen A.
What's up?
Hey, Stephen A. First off, I want to say I love your show, often listening to you. I do have happened to disagree with you today on a certain point, especially when it comes to our Democratic leaders that stood up and told the servicemen that they could disobey illegal orders. And the reason why is throughout history, even going back to Nazi Germany, those people,
people that obeyed illegal orders when they said, oh, I was just obeying orders.
Stop that.
You stop that.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
You stop that BS right now.
First of all, don't bring up Nazi Germany on this show when you're talking about American
politics in the year 2025.
We're not doing that to anybody on either side of the aisle.
This is America.
This ain't Nazi Germany.
Stop it.
That's number one.
Number two, here's what I was saying.
If you're going to quote me, quote me accurately, identify, identify.
the illegal orders you're talking about.
You don't get to speak if you're a senator of the United States who served in the United
States Navy as a combat pilot, and you're just going to throw out innuendo and assertions
without factual evidence to back up your claim.
That's why they're investigating it.
Military officials are different.
This is not civilian.
This is not the civilian life.
You can't just do that.
That's what I'm saying.
He knows better
Now that doesn't mean he committed treason
It doesn't mean he should be thrown in jail
But what it does mean is that
Senator Markelly needs to watch his mouth
If you're going to accuse the president of the United States
Of giving illegal orders
You need to say what those orders are
You need to be specific
And you need to make sure
That you understand that as a former military
A man
Watch this
That regular court of Lord don't apply
Here's the military.
Watch.
Here's the military.
You're saying military justice.
Code of military justice.
This is what that is.
You don't get to do that.
That's what I said.
Go ahead and speak.
Okay.
What I was saying, though, those illegal orders could potentially be the Mediterranean bombings of those boats.
Did he say that?
Did he say that?
Nope.
No, he did not say it.
That's what I'm saying.
He didn't say it.
He didn't say it.
You got to say it.
You can't just blanketly go out there and accuse him.
So now watch.
And apparently the caller doesn't know where the Mediterranean is.
We didn't bomb boats in Mediterranean.
And we bombed them in the Gulf of America off the coast of Venezuela.
Right.
But when you're watching this and you're watching the killing of the National Guard,
all happen within a week apart, it makes you question a lot of things, Tom.
What are you thinking right now?
I believe we're in the first innings of a color revolution.
I believe there's manipulation going on below the surface.
I'm not going to build a five-page treatise where I say, you know, this is what's going on.
I'm not wired conspiracy that way.
But I can see the facts.
I can see a calendar.
I can see outcomes.
I can see the 2021 testimony in Congress.
I can see Bill Crystal.
I can see Lindsey Graham's question.
I can see Josh Hawley.
I can see Charlie Kirk.
And then I see what's happening right here, right now.
now and I can hear, you know, the Al-Qa Akbar, I can hear what they're saying. And so I
step back from it and I'm like, you know, I got a problem here. I got a serious problem here
because all of these things are lining up and they're lining up the wrong way. And I think if you made
a pie chart of the Democrats, like a pie chart, and you said, what percent just are doing it
for Democrat power and they're ignoring all the downstream effects, you probably have the huge
percent, like 50, 60 percent of the Dems, hey, let's win the elections, let's get the people in here,
let's do that. On the other hand, inside the rest of it, you've got people that have not, that have
wanted the United States to join, you know, globalist organizations, the UN to have more power.
There's no conspiracy in that. There are people that believe that the sovereignty of the United
States should be adjusted, that our Constitution should be adjusted or thrown out, and that we should
join a more globalist organization. Soros is on record. People are on record. So now you see all this
and you see the funding? That's what I think. And it makes me very, very concerned when I see
somebody like Mark Kelly who went through, by the way, and let's remember Mark Kelly's family
went through, you know, a senseless shooting. His wife was a member of Congress and got and got
shot, you know, and
has a permanent disability
as a result.
Gifford, right?
Gabby. Gabby Gifford. Gabby Gifford.
Gabby Gifford. Has a
primary disability. So, you know, it's not like
Mark Kelly hasn't seen this, but to cross the line
like that, I believe that
the label the Seditious Six is
correct. This whole thing
stinks. I hate the timing,
and I think all of it's coming home
to Roos, PPD. Vinnie. And notice
how, great, great point, Tom,
and the fact that you mentioned the CIA and the
color revolution. Notice that we're talking about the CIA working with the guy, the terrorist
Afghan guy that shot the National Guards woman. Guess what? Alyssa Slotkin, she's one of these
seditious six. She's ex-CIA. She admitted like Democrats, there was no illegal orders, okay?
And like people, a lot of people Pat also, and mind you, you know why Mark Kelly's doing this?
You know why they're opening? Because they know at the end of the day, nothing is going to happen to
them. Nothing. Nothing is going to happen to them. Which one is this one, Rob?
Which she admits? Yeah. Play that real quick pack. This is important. It's very important.
Right now, do you believe President Trump has issued any illegal orders?
To my knowledge, I am not aware of things that are illegal, but certainly there are some legal
gymnastics that are going on with these Caribbean strikes. Okay. And everything related to Venezuela.
And this is it, guys. You know why they did what they did, Pat? This is the point I want people to know.
You're going to make, we have 2.1 million active duty and national guardsmen.
You're going to make them, because think about the percentage, Pat, what, 3 to 5% that hate Trump, maybe 6%.
They're going to question orders.
You're going to question orders.
You don't have time.
You take your orders and you freaking follow them.
That's the military.
And this is the problem, Pat.
They weren't just treasonous and seditious.
There's a third statute I want people to pay attention to.
Federal law, 18 U.S.C. 2387 reads.
activities affecting armed forces
generally criminalizes knowingly advising counseling
or urging any member of the United States military
to disobey, desert, or refuse lawful orders
with intent to interfere with military operations or loyalty.
That's what they did, okay?
And the penalty is 20 years, up to 20 years in prison
and $250,000 fine.
Okay, they violated the law, plain and simpers.
Okay, and this is the ex-CIA chick,
telling them to undermine the authority,
the commander-in-chief.
All right, we have a chain of command, guys.
You break, it goes from E-1 all the way to E-0-09, Mike, is that what it is?
O-10.
O-10 is, G4, 4-star general.
You break that chain, we fall apart.
I worked at a nuclear missile base.
Could you imagine the missile leaders, God forbid, we go to war and it's a nuclear war?
You want the people that are turning the keys to protect us to knock nukes out of the sky to go,
hey, is this legal or is this illegal?
that's what they're doing
that's what they're doing and they're undermining it
okay and this is a very
you want to talk about slippery slope pat
that's the slope that's the slippery slope
and they know what they're doing
but with the justice system we have
nothing is going to happen to these people
well I'll just add this
this is all just symbolic
of what the Democratic stand for at this point
they don't have a game plan of their own
their only game plan is just reacting
and doing the opposite of what Trump is suggesting
to do so is Trump
anti-American
hell no are Democrats anti-American well if they're taking the 20% position on a Trump
American stance then they're going to fall into the category of anti-American so earlier this week
we played the whole montage of these politicians basically telling military not to follow orders
and now when they question the politicians they go what was the legal orders specifically
well I don't really have one so you're making this commercial basically saying don't
obey Trump's illegal orders, but you can't name one
illegal order.
Pat, did you see this?
It's mind-blowing.
Did you guys see these billboards in North Carolina?
Read really,
Bob,
did you go airborne just to pull security for ice?
And what's that body say?
What's the actual website, Robbie?
Not, not, hold on.
I can see it better.
It's probably trim those trees.
Not what I signed up for.org.
And then look at the website, Rob.
I sent you this as well.
When you click on that website,
I sent you the link on,
By the way, pull, for people who are not familiar with the military,
I don't have friends or family that are in there.
When you say pull in the military, it means pull a detail,
means take an assignment.
Yeah, exactly.
Now, guys, and then if you click on the website,
you saw the billboard, you have questions, you're not alone.
Go ahead.
But here's some proactive steps.
Use encrypted, like, they want,
this is where you get this whole whistleblower nonsense, Pat.
Encrypted proton mail, signal app,
so they could say, hey, we got this, this and this.
He's giving illegal orders.
This is freaking dangerous
And they know what they're doing Tom
They know what they're doing
And when you have this Slotkin chick
Who is ex-CIA
Who to me means you're forever CIA
These are the people that sold the dissent
And they try to destroy the country from within
You're a freaking CIA chick
Nobody trust your ass
Nobody do me favor
Go to that website
And take that website and go to
Who is
Like if you just happen
Who owns this domain
You know what I'm saying
The Domain Lookup
Let's just do a quick domain look up.
I want to know if anything will come up
on who is behind this domain.
Okay, and put the domain in right there.
If you go a little bit higher, go a little bit higher.
Right.
Yeah, search, zoom in.
Who owns this domain?
When did they buy it?
August 28th, August 20, this is very new, right?
They just bought this.
So they've been planning on doing this for three months.
Okay, so check this out.
Beautiful.
Take a look at this, you piece of mother.
So they've been planning on doing this right before Thanksgiving for three flipping months.
They registered on 828, okay, updated on September 3rd, go a little bit lower, Rob.
I just want to know who owns this domain.
Just so you know, if this is all about Venezuela, which is what Elisa Slotnick is saying,
the first military strike in Venezuela was September 2nd.
Wow, what a four days before they're even.
They know they were going to do this.
Go a little bit lower.
Go a little bit lower.
Can we see you know what's not going to tell us?
No, keep going lower.
What is that number?
Let's call that number.
But that's a number to that named.com website.
I just call that number real quick.
I don't think it is a, I don't think that's anything.
I think it's.
If you find the PO box, it's probably to a registrar like a bulk.
You know what I mean?
What is that number, Rob?
7208097.
And there's another one that was above it, Rob.
And we're doing like some nancy.
Thank you for calling.
Main Protection Service.
Okay, so that's a domain.
Okay, so, okay.
But it said Josh and something, Pat,
do you see those names?
Go up a little bit, Robbie?
Go up, go, go, go, go, go.
Right there.
Gene and Josh.
Dot n.s.com.
Okay, so then if you, are there any names,
any names such as Josh or Gene
tied to this website?
Usually they use some.
Okay, so then this, by the way,
this is what it makes me,
Rob, can you tell them to turn off the AC?
It's a little bit cold in here.
So you know what it makes me think about?
We're heating it up.
No, let me tell what I think about.
Here's what I think is going on.
August 28, first attacked the September 2nd, then it's going to sound crazy.
The only way they know this that an attack is going to be taking place on Venezuela is either
we already publicly announced it or somebody from the inside leaked it to somebody else.
And they said, let's get ahead of it and buy the domain and let's create this division.
A leak in Washington.
So there's a leak in Washington.
Oh, my gosh.
If that's the case and this is what they did.
And that's when you set up the domain, you're all dirtbags.
That's what you are.
You know who you are.
You're a dirtbag for setting up something like this.
You want to see division in America and shit taking place to the next level.
You're a qualified dirtbag is what you are.
And you know who you are for setting up something like this.
A few days prior to this, if this domain had been set.
By the way, when would we have not questioned it if when this domain was set up?
Two days after the bombing.
No, no, actually, if it was a week ago.
Oh, yeah, even quicker.
If it was two weeks ago, you would have said, all right, that makes sense because it was part of the whole thing.
But the fact that it's five days before the first time, because it's August 28, 29, 30th, August is 31 days, 31.
First, second, six days before this?
Come on.
Yeah, there's something going on here with this.
Anyways.
What a freaking weird.
Rob, did anything come back tied to those names?
Because I pulled it up right now to see if there's any Gene and Josh attached to it.
No, I believe it's just cloud flare is the count behind it.
Well, yeah, it's a service that connects the website to some type of...
Yeah, they had an outage two weeks ago, a fact of a lot of people.
They're a security layer.
Yeah, so let's let's go to the next story.
This is, folks, just be aware.
And by the way, this next story I'll go to, I don't know how much this has to do with it.
Joy Reed said J.D. Vance's wife, like J.D. Vance may dump, right?
Betty on what she said, the brown Hindu, wife for a white queen.
This is what Joy Reid just said.
Play this clip.
This is what she had to say.
They can't have the successor to Maga be the guy with the brown Hindu wife.
They're also Christian nationalist.
That ain't going to work.
That's why he's throwing his wife under the bus, poor Usha.
Or she's in on it, right?
And she's slap and tickle with Erica Kirk.
Oh, my God.
She's like in her Tammy Faye era.
Okay, holding on the back of his head and rubbing on his head.
Some weird shit.
Maybe.
Loving, right, these liberal and disgusting women, bro.
Look at them.
Look at them.
All surgery.
You're not doing that right thing.
You're supposed to be a widow.
You didn't leather pants.
Yeah, that's her shirt.
What's her shirt saying?
F. Trump.
Could you imagine if wouldn't it be?
Free Palestine, free D.C.
Does it say?
Fairy tale, Maga, fairy tale.
Unoccupy Chicago.
He sees the light that he needs a white queen instead of this brown.
Hindu. I mean, I'm not saying
that's happening. Right. Or maybe
that Usha's not even in on it. Maybe she's
whatever, but that's one
entrant. Well, so apparently Ushah
was seen without a ring on and
they went to, you know, that's probably
what happened, all this other stuff.
Who knows? But Tom,
you have a theory on this on what
they're doing with Ushah.
By the way, just so everybody knows
on how I feel, guys.
A married woman,
shouldn't put her hands on the back of a man's head.
If my daughter is doing me, this is me, you guys can judge me and say, Pat, what the hell
you're talking about? What a freaking crazy thing? That's just how she's and greets everybody that
way. My daughter? I would tell my daughter, babe, he's married. Don't put your hands on a man's back
of their head. You're going to make him uncomfortable or make her uncomfortable. No wife is going
to like when another woman puts their hands on the back of man's head. So I don't like this right here.
you guys to think, and by the way, we're fans of Turning Point USA. I'm just giving my thoughts. I know I'm
going to get shit. Oh, you're never going to be invited again. I'm not talking about that. All I'm
saying is, I agree that's a little bit too much to put your hands up there. It's not a good look
with the vice president. So is Usha going to be okay with that? Maybe. Maybe she's not. But probably
what percentage of wives would not be happy if another woman put their hands like that on their
husband's head? What percentage?
Mine's going to take a chunk out of you with a driver.
I want you to actually think about it.
No, no.
I want you to think about it.
Let's ask married people, okay?
Rob, what do you think?
What percentage of wives would say, babe,
why is she putting grants on the back of your head?
What do you think the percentage is?
90?
I can't imagine walking home and not having that conversation with my wife.
90% of women would have a problem with that.
So, fair enough.
Having said that, so I understand that that's not good for JD's look,
But Tom, you have a very interesting theory on what you're seeing that's taking place.
Go ahead, Tom.
Yep.
Well, first of all, to top this off, you asked Rob, and I'll answer it as well.
About two weeks ago, didn't you and I have a conversation?
We were at a business event, not one of ours, but it was a business event.
And I said, wow, Pat, that guy's wife is a little touchy.
She just met me and she was touching my shoulder.
You're irresistible, Tom.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
You know they keep like this.
No, Tom.
While we were all talking.
You are.
Instruction can resist.
No, no, no.
I didn't feel comfortable with it.
And I thought that she was being a little bit too, like, friendly and touchy with people.
So this is real.
It's a real thing.
We literally talked about this two weeks.
All jokes aside, we did.
We did.
And we said, hey, I'm not comfortable with that.
So here's what I think's going on.
We've seen the numbers on Kalshi.
JD is over 50% probability on Kalshi and a lot of other places and polls.
He is the guy.
So guess what?
That makes him the target.
the Democrats are trying to figure out who they run
and they are in disarray internally
there's a lot of them the establishment
does not want Gavin Newsom I'm on record they don't
they like Pritzker now is Pritzer going to get the full support
no but the point is they're in disarray
whereas there is a logical line
that right now is happening on the
Republican side and even Rubio is stepping back
he has not said the words
I will not primary JD but
But he has said things that are supportive and they're showing unity that maybe I'm not going to, you know, run to be the top guy.
I believe that what they are getting is they are getting their marching orders and we are seeing hit pieces on JD.
There's been, oh, he uses profanity too much.
Like he used at the Air Force base, he was talking about turkey.
And he says, you're full of shit.
You don't like turkey.
How many other days during the year have you actually cooked an 18-pound turkey?
Oh, listen to where he talked.
That's not very statesman-like.
I believe the media is all in cahoots and they are being pushed by the DNC.
We have to undermine J.D.
How do you undermine J.D.?
You go after him.
You go after his wife.
You go after him.
You go after anything you can't.
You go after the fact that he was a little too.
Is he loyal?
He was always with Vivek and now he's not with Vivek.
Is J.D. loyal?
Has he supported him for governor?
There's all the stuff going on.
And I think Joy Reid is a tool.
and then she's been used more than she'll ever admit on things like this in the media.
And I believe they're out there, and this is a concerted campaign to start attempting to undermine J.D. Vance because they believe he's the target.
When Trump's done, J.D.'s the target.
We have to figure out who our guy is going to be, our woman, our candidate.
But, man, we got to get after it.
And I think it's happening right now.
Yeah, I don't understand.
And by the way, there's a lot of things.
J.D. is about to get scrutiny in ways he's never had her before.
And it's well-deserved.
You're choosing to be a president.
It's a test.
It comes with the territory.
So you'll hear the questions.
You know, his kids.
Like, you know, his kids are named.
One of the kids is named Vivek.
The other two are American names.
Why did you allow your kids' name to be Vivek?
One out of three.
I think if it's like you get one, I get two, fine.
You know, when you're married, I got four kids.
We were kind of picking and choosing what names are going to be.
It's funny.
We were talking about it this morning.
Patrick Dillon, Brooklyn, Senate, Brooklyn, right?
Okay, we're going through the names.
Then his ties to Palantir.
His ties to Peter Thiel.
Peter Thiel.
And so that part is going to get investigated and deeper and guys are going to react to it.
And they should.
You're running to get the biggest job in America.
People are going to want to know, are you going to be bought or not?
Because President Trump is already a billionaire.
It's tougher to buy him.
But maybe J.D. is not.
And coming out of college, getting a big job that he got right off the bat.
Guys are going to question it and it's going to go even higher.
The level of scrutiny is going to get higher.
expect a lot of weird stories to come out of the next 24 months
and everybody in the market should scrutinize
whoever's going to get the big job, your party, the other side's party
and that's all fair play.
If you don't like it, don't get in the arena.
It's kind of how this works.
Like when people send messages and I'm okay with any of the messages of disagreement
you sent.
I'm just not okay when it's the messages that's, anyways, I'm not even going to get into
that.
But, you know, some of the messages that are like about your family and your kids
and death threats and stuff like that, I'm not.
That's just on call for.
But to me, the moment you get on camera and you give an opinion, do not be afraid when people push back and they disagree with you.
Did you hear what that person said?
Yeah, because I had an opinion on it.
They have the right to react to what I have to say.
That's open game.
But to me, what Joey Reed did and what she said there, what happens with them.
It's almost like every, do you see a pattern with everybody that how many, when is the last time, Rob, a vice president or a president got a divorce?
No, it doesn't happen
When is the last time a vice president
Or president got a divorce
While after being in office
After being in office
It's probably happened
I really wish I could have got divorce
Chill Bill
Yeah, it's probably happened
Good question
There hasn't
A recent
A recent
Rod Reagan was the first
But he was married before
He had a shirt marriage in Hollywood
Okay Trump was also
It was before
So Bill, former vice president
under Bill Clinton, Al Gore, separated from his wife, Tipper, in 2010.
But that was a separation.
Okay, so that's the first one.
So Al Gore didn't want to publicize it as a divorce,
but is Al Gore still with his wife?
Rob, are they still together or separate?
Her name's Tipper.
What a name.
And do you remember Al Gore said that Eric Siegel's novel love story
was inspired by myself and Tipper?
They're not still married?
Liar.
So it looks like they're separated, but they're not divorced.
Okay.
So guess what?
But that's, guys, that's not a long time ago.
It's a divorce.
15 years ago, there was a separation.
So I don't want to put a thing here that there's no way there anything going on between the marriage.
I'm 80% chance.
Ushah's furious with what happened that they with the hands on the back of the head.
And if that's my sister or friend or anybody that I see, even somebody I don't know,
I would say, I don't blame me if we're not being happy about it.
You think Balania's going to be happy if somebody puts their hands?
on the back of President Trump's...
Where was that incident?
Was that a turning point USA event
when she brought him up?
And she said he reminds me of Charlie Kirk.
Oh, you six weeks ago?
Yeah, recently.
So anyways, look, she's going through a lot of things.
I don't know what it's like to lose a
husband like Charlie Kirk.
So everybody mourns in a different way.
So I don't want to judge,
but, you know, I have not commented on this at all,
purely out of respect.
And this is the least amount of comment
you're going to get from me.
Most amount of comment you're going to get from me
on this topic.
Yeah, I'll just say a couple of things.
Number one, I'm not sure why we put any credibility
or credence.
anything Joy Reid says, is there anything you can, that comes to mind that she's gotten
right?
When you go, you know what?
Joy Reid, what a great point.
I can't think of one.
Not one.
She's a race baiting, victim mentality, identity politics, click baiting former MSNBC,
canceled somewhat journalist, who's now a mediocre podcaster with white liberal women
wearing a victim mentality shirt.
Those who are horrible.
That's Joy Reid.
Those who are horrible as well.
Don't even get me started on these far.
liberal women, they're the
worst things in America
besides the illegal immigrants that are killing
National Guardsmen.
Regarding divorce, I've said this
before, I never thought that Michelle Obama
and Barack Obama were getting divorced, even
though there were rumors. Even when the Trump
and Melania rumors happened
after 2020 when he lost
the election, never brought into that.
If Bill Clinton isn't divorcing Hillary
Clinton, politicians
don't get divorced. Al Gore, Tipper Gore,
he wouldn't even divorce her
he just stays separated
so to me this is nothing
if JD Vance wants to be the president
which I think he's probably the most likely
person in the Republican Party at this point
he's not going to get divorced
right now
what's nobody
when's the last time a president was single
in office I don't know
I don't think I was Abraham Lincoln
whatever it was so the point is this
it would be it would be shooting yourself
in the proverbial foot yeah to get divorced
there was a rumor you're still gonna have these little round
kids running around
But the stepmom's not going to work.
There was a rumor that said he's going to leave her for Erica Kirk.
Because she's the perfect wife.
Yeah.
And that's like, okay, by the way, do you know who got a lot of heat on this topic that was running for president that I think at the peak?
It was at 19 to 21%.
Do you know who?
Who is one of the most brilliant political minds of the last 50 years?
Do you know who?
Newt Gingrich.
Newt Gingrich went through this when his wife, I believe, had cancer time or something
happened and he got the amount of criticism that he had to answer for what happened when he left
or something like that happened. Remember the exchange that he had? Or somebody questioned him from
CNN, I believe, Rob. And he's like, you know what? You chose a political, you opened a political
debate, but that shows about you and your character. Do you remember that clip? Of course I do. I love that.
I love that moment. So what I'm saying is like if he does that, trust me, when you get into
these levels where you're about to be the leader of the free world, what is the men?
Canturian candidate movie. Is that what it is?
Oh, yeah.
With the mother in the back.
Who's the mother, the actress that has won a bunch of different awards?
Glenn Close.
No, no, not Glenn Close.
The girl that they say she's the greatest actress.
She was Merrill Street.
Merrill Street.
Yeah.
She's lost her mind.
When they sit.
Do you think behind closed doors, they'll sit there and do things like this?
Well, you know, it would be better if your wife was this.
Yes.
It would better if you wear this shirt.
It would be better if you do this.
100%.
You think they think like that?
I have a different perspective.
I don't know.
But all I'm saying is, look, if that, let's say the 0.001% chance that that happens,
the amount of objections you would need to overcome for having left your wife for a white wife.
Of course.
You're done.
You're handing the presidency to Marker Rubio or somebody else.
Or the Newsom.
Can I say why?
I just say moderately diverse America.
I don't see it that way because some great friend of my.
he wrote a book called Your Next Five Moves.
Once they selected J.D. Vance and his beautiful brown wife to be the vice president, and they won,
they said, all right, next five moves.
Trump's a one-term president.
J.D., if you fulfill what Trump is doing, you'll be a two-term president.
If all things go according to plan, so who's your wife, first lady?
They probably already vetted this, my opinion.
I don't know.
So that's my assumption on that.
Number two, I have a different opinion on maybe their closeness, Erica Kirk,
and J.D. Vance. At the end of the day, I assume they're just friends. And what do I mean by that?
So last night, I don't want to name names. I had dinner with one of my best friends. His wife is also
one of my best friends. Like, that's how close we are. To tell you that I've danced with her in a
club, lifted her up, it's friendship. It's like, it's nothing more than that. And my friend knows
that how we already, like, we've been friends for 20 years. So I'm not saying that they've been
friends for 20 years. So I don't look at it
just because she gave him a hug and touched the back
of his head. That it's that flirtatious
or that bad. My opinion, I could
be wrong. I don't see any
salacious, weird things going on here.
Could be wrong. But in my opinion, that's
friends, that's affection, that's pain,
that's grieving. That's just
a bond that they have.
You were dancing with your friend's wife
at a club, like dancing with her. Did you do
like the dirty dancing? Like, you picked her up and held her
like that type of dancing
like I need to know what were you
how did we get here
you don't think you can be friends with a friend's wife
and not have no you can't
you can't be friends of a friend's wife
like hang out with her
without him there
no not hang with zero zero
zero you can't
that says zero you can't
so that's where you draw the line
you can't be friends with your friend's wife
listen
his wife is my sister
I know no wait a minute
she's my sister
but there is nothing I can do
that is more than just a sister
that's going to make Tom even 1% uncomfortable
if there's a risk if I ever meet your girl
the day you get married you will see how I'm going to meet your wife
I'm going to look at your wife like my daughter or my sister
period I ran a business for a longest time
and there was a lot of knuckleheads who followed your role
We're just friends
No, not under my watch
I've never been a fan
Ever been a fan
I want Rob to come with his wife
To any of the parties I put together
And have nothing to worry about
If he gets a 5% fear
That somebody did something with his wife
I am a horrible enemy
If you do something like that
I don't play those games
I don't like it
I don't think it's appropriate
And I think it's basic protocol
And etiquette
There's certain etiquette
Now you grew up in Miami
And don't get me wrong, I understand the party left.
I was in it for a long time, for a long time.
And then I stepped away.
And it was a lot of stupid things we did as young men.
I'm not going to sit here and act like we walked on water and we didn't do anything dumb.
Trust me, there's a lot of stories of what we did.
But there came a moment where I said, nope, not playing these games, anything that happens here,
I'm treating her that way.
And I told everyone, look how many of our guys in our company?
How many divorces do you hear about in our company?
Not many.
We don't play around with stuff like this.
every one of our guys in our company
they're my daughters or my sisters
that's how I look at them
and those husbands
love this approach
and they will never in their mind
ever even have a thought
that anybody can have anything
around us with them. If it happens
I can't control it when I'm not there
but I lean towards this mindset
you can call it the mob mindset
you can call it the mafia mind you whatever you want to
I don't know whatever you want to call it to me
it's just a very
man's protective mindset that I have
that this is the approach we take.
And long term, if I'm a gambling man
and I have to choose between these two mindsets,
I'm putting my entire life savings on this side
with this mindset.
That's why I'm putting my life savings.
And I'm going to raise my girls for hopefully
be that way.
And I'm going to raise my boys
to also be that way.
Because God knows, all our kids are going to be tempted
to do some stupid things just like we were tempted to do as well.
I'll give you a little bit of credence here.
A lot of what you're saying is your business model.
I'm not saying it's not credence.
I'm not looking for credence.
I'm just saying why I understand your perspective here.
You built your company off couples.
So you need to set boundaries very clear.
This is not what it is, Adam.
This is not about a business model.
This is life.
This is beyond.
This is not business model.
This is life.
This is how I am with everything in this area.
If that's your girl, I have a basic rule.
No one's going to touch your girl.
no one's going to do anything to her.
This is my way of doing things.
My way of doing things.
It doesn't matter what it is.
I get it.
When one day you get a wife,
you're going to feel very comfortable
with me being around your wife.
And you will sit there and say,
if your wife ever wants to talk about,
hey, Pat, what do you think about me and Adam
stuff like this?
I remember one time something happened,
I'll tell this story,
and I'll just move on to the next thing.
One of the guys that, you know,
are, you know,
One of my first guys who does very well financially, very smart guy, very talented guy.
Early on in his career, he went through a nasty divorce.
And a wife message me afterwards on Instagram and text.
And I got a bunch of messages.
Hey, we'd love to get on a call with you and would love to talk to and all this other stuff.
Do you know how many times I got on the phone with her?
Because I think it's fair for you to hear both sides of the story.
How many times do you think I got on the phone with me?
Probably zero.
Why do you think that is?
You don't want to hear her side of the story.
I'm not the guy that says I'm friends with everybody.
The guy was my number one.
Of course.
He is the relationship with me.
I don't have a relationship with the wife.
She wanted to give me.
There is no reason for you and I to speak whatsoever.
I don't need to hear your side of the story.
Marriage is tough.
It's difficult.
You guys didn't make your work.
I am not trying to dump on it.
It's very, very hard to make a marriage work.
You move on.
These are very sensitive topics in life when later on things happen.
you ask yourself what kind of kids do you want to raise
what kind of values you want to build it on
these are some of the things you got to be thinking about
and by the way I'm not I see it with your friends
and I see how you guys are together I see it and it's great
but I don't know what it is to be in that community
in Miami grown up in that I don't know if that wiring
would have worked with me if I walked up with my girlfriend
and he saw my girlfriend you're too friendly with my girlfriend
you're not my friend you can't be my friend
if you're too friendly my girlfriend leave me I'm with you on that
but also some onus is on the girl.
Oh, you know, no, you're right.
No, no, by the way, that part I'm with.
Okay.
But let's just say, you don't think girls I've tried,
you don't think married women have given me their key cards
to go upstairs.
What do you think's happen with me?
You don't think I go to events and I'm like, hey, man,
and the line is always the same thing.
You know, I wish my husband was more like you.
He's just so lazy, he doesn't do this.
You know, here's my key card.
You inspire me.
What kind of weird things you think happens when here?
Now, and by the way, again,
I'm not saying this to put myself on here
that in the future I'm not going to make a mistake
I don't want that unnecessary type of pressure
this is why I travel in threes with men
this is wherever I go I go with Vinny or Tom or you or
Mario or other people because I don't want to go places by myself
I have a rule of not having certain things I follow I don't even want to
get off topic here because we've got a lot of other things to get into it very much
on topic yeah circling back here I don't see
JD doing anything
out of the ordinary.
This isn't on JD. I'm not putting this
on JD. Because what's
so for example, imagine I'm roping
like Vinny, you're thinking about it Tom.
So you go up and
Erica puts her hand on the back
of your head. What do I do? Do I go like
this? Imagine that video going viral.
You can't. You have to be like
that's weird, awesome, next.
I know I'm going to have a conversation my wife
afterwards. We also don't know what it's
like to be Erica Kirk at this point.
That's why I said, I don't know. I'm not saying I know.
She's grieving.
And a lot of people think that she's up to weird things.
I think she genuinely loved her husband, lost her father of her children, and she's dealing
with it.
And we have no clue the trauma that she's dealing with at this point.
Nobody is saying that.
I'm saying that.
You know what?
Real men help her, real men put boundaries up to help her from any weakness she may have.
That's what a real man does.
That's what a protector of a family and community does.
You set boundaries up, so in their pain, they can't get past the boundary.
You help them.
And then you whisper to your own wife, you need to reach out to her because she needs a woman in her to give her the kind of guidance.
Look, for us on the back end, you know, we contributed from our side.
We've contributed to the organization.
We contributed to her directly with the family and the kids, stuff that we did.
No, we are for the Kirk family.
For sure.
Those kids, Charlie's kids, always can cook.
call me and get anything, I'm going to go out of my way to help those two guys, the kids that
they have. Because to me, that's how special of a guy he was. I was a very, very big fan of
Charlie. And anyways, we can move on to the next story. We're on the same page there. Yeah. Okay.
All right, let me get to the next story. What story do we have, Rob, that we haven't gotten
into? Pa, pa, pa, pa, let me see this here. Okay, Candice Owens. Candice Owens accuses
McCrone's of choreographing $1.5 million assassination plot against her deadly serious. Okay, so
Let me read this thing here.
Give me a second.
You know who said this on the Vennie, Tom and Adam.
I'm going to come to you guys.
So over the weekend, the political commentator also claimed that as Charlie Kirk's alleged assassin,
Tyler Robinson, was trained by the French Legion 13th Brigade.
Is this what she said?
Candidones claimed on Monday that the French president Macron and his wife allegedly
spent $1.5 million on plot to assassinate her days after she claimed the couple ordered
a hit on her life, which just said.
religion. When everything is set and done and the public learns that Macron
legend move $1.5 million for assassination, how will the wall respond? Owens wrote on X on Monday.
The allegation came days after Owens claimed on Saturday that a high-ranking employee of the
French government told her that Macron paid for an assassination squad to execute her,
a group that included one Israeli. The claims came after Owens had accused Bridget Macron
of being a trans woman prompting the French couple to sue her for defamation
in U.S. court. She also suggested
Israeli influence played a role in Charlie Kirk.
Who wrote this article, Rob?
This is the rap, November 24. She claimed
on Saturday that Kirk's alleged
assassin, Tala Robinson, trained
with the French Legion 13th Brigade
and that another journalist, Javier
Posort, is also at risk.
This is deadly serious. She wrote on Saturday.
The head of the state of France
apparently wants us both dead
and authorized professional units
to carry this out. Tom, what are your thoughts
on this story? So,
Number one, I've always seen Candace to be, you know, a very strong voice.
And when she gets on a story, she's also a researcher.
We've known her, we've had her on here, we spent time with her.
A great weekend of Kentucky Derby with everybody, a whole giant group of people.
And I always found her to be a well-informed deep researcher.
parts of this really make me worried that if something's really going on that she's kind of put her finger in the light socket a little bit here with people that may really want to hurt her and that concerns me the other part that concerns me is sometimes you get so deep into things that it can kind of kind of turn you a little bit and i worry that maybe she's pretty deep into it and i don't want to see a day where
someone I have respect for, that we wake up and everything is discredited and it was all
crazy and it got loose. I don't want to see that day. And I don't want to see a day where she gets
hurt. And I think there's a lot of stuff going on in here that is, you know, when something is
so incredibly bizarre, it's either true or somebody's just way out on the plank with a crazy
story and they don't know what to do themselves. And I want to see the truth. I want to see the
truth come out of this. I want to know what's going up. She appears to be naming names and being
very specific about specific amounts of money, specific French legions, the Legion 13th Brigade.
She's being very specific about an awful lot of things that either she's got, you know,
a spy novel here that's so incredibly well written, or there's something really going on
here. Adam. And I just don't want to see her get hurt. Got it. Adam. So Candice is one of the
most gifted communicators out there. She's very gifted.
at grabbing your attention. The flip side to that me may be that she's an attention-seeking
spotlight-addicted narcissist who needs your attention and gets off on all the attention.
You used a crime novel, what was the thing, spy novel? It's so funny because I was watching
Scooby-Doo the other day, and it made me realize that Candace is like the human podcasting version
of Scooby-Doo, where, you know, where are you, I'm going to find you? She has her whole crew,
and she deputizes her audience
as Dinesh Asusa said
and she doesn't need a mystery machine
she's got her podcast and her mic
and she's bringing Twitter receipts
and she's finding clues
and she's finding chicks with dicks
whatever she's working on
she always has the answer
and you always have to stay tuned
to the next episode
where she does the big reveal
and then plot twist
rut row it was Israel
all roads obviously lead to Israel
of course
who was it it was probably Israel
and then much like Scooby-Doo, it's like,
you would have gotten away with it
if it weren't for you meddling
fact-checkers.
So to me, she's so gifted,
but at the same time, when they rip
the mask off people, I'm wondering,
what is the mask it she's wearing?
What is she hiding?
Because what she's doing is not,
she's either the best crime fighter
the world has ever seen,
or she's gaslighting everybody
into believing whatever nonsense
she's coming up with.
I don't know which one it is,
but it's one of them.
Vinny. I think just like how we talked about recently about the illegal orders that Alyssa Slotkin
and Mark Kelly and all of them, none of them can say what it is. Show us as, who was the one that
was saying? Stephen A. Smith was like, show us. You have to show people the evidence. Show it. I
understand, you know, and by the way, I think the week off, it's, I mean, it's Thanksgiving.
But I mean, people take vacations, but the same token, if you want people to,
believe that the evidence is coming
on the next episode. No, he's saying something else. He's saying
like she's taking a week off because of what's
going on. What he's saying is everybody's taking the week off. Because a lot of people
are, like, oh, they're coming to kill her. We're not taking the week off.
We haven't taken a day off. No, sorry. I understand.
But what I'm saying is, you have
to show me the receipts. If you want people to believe
that he sent these assassins,
guess what? You better have it out
and put it out there and show
everybody. Because apparently the
White House was contacted
or they were given these receipts.
I don't know what's going to happen about it,
but if you want people, you want me to believe that that's actually happening,
put it out there and show us so we could see it.
I want to see actual proof.
Yeah, so there's a couple things, Rob.
There's a pastor that responded to it at Turning Point USA, what do you call it?
Faith, you have that video that I think if you go to the video from Faith,
turning point USA, Turning Point USA, Faith.
faith. I'll find it for you if you don't have it. There's a video of this. Go a little bit lower.
Pastor was talking. You don't have this rap.
Ova? That one right there. Yeah. If you want to play that clip. Yeah. Watch this clip here. So he is
at a Turning Point USA event saying this. Go ahead.
So contrary to what Candace Owens is saying, who's spending her time trying to tear down the legacy of Charlie Kirk, fighting against.
against Erica Kirk, his wife, I mean, you have to be cruel and demonic to insinuate the things
that she has insinuated over the past several weeks. She's evil. That's what it is. And a
big hand clap goes there. Don't get shy on me tonight. I ain't the one. I came too far to play
around. It's evil. It's corrupt. It should not take place. She sounds like a jaded person who
wish they were in the role
that Charlie Kirk's wife is
in, but she isn't. What does that mean?
So therefore, she seeks to tear down
his legacy.
And at some point, her husband is going to have to
walk into that podcast room
and start unplugging cords.
I mean, by now, I would have already done it
if it was my wife. I'm yanking
cords. I'm shutting down the camera, shut
down the A-Tem. Sweetie,
get up, get out of this room,
and can you please help out with the kids?
because this is a dastardly deed that is being done
I thought that the greatest foe
that we would have to contend with
after the assassination of Charlie Kirk
would be the left
but sadly is friendly fire
from the right.
I'm moving on.
Let me ask you, Rob.
Is this pastor followed by Erica Kirk?
I can find out.
Can you find out if this pastor,
because I don't know who this man is.
Obviously, he's a good speaker.
How do you say his last name?
Follow him back.
Robbie likes you.
Is it Reverend Jordan?
Is it Jordan?
Rob, he loves you.
John.
See if Erica Kirk follows.
Is there a way to test that, Rob, or check it?
Or I guess you, do you follow Erica Kirk?
I mean, I'm not sure.
You better, Rob.
Okay, so if, okay, follow her and then go back and see.
I don't think you clicked it, Rob.
He did.
He did click follow.
So let's just see.
Okay, go a little bit lower.
I don't know this.
Go a little bit lower.
Go a little bit lower.
Go a little bit lower.
Nope.
So he doesn't follow Erica Kirk.
Now, does Erica Kirk follow him?
Okay.
Is there a way to see, like, people that you follow that follow?
Do you guys know what I'm asking about here?
Because what I'm trying to say is, and was Erica Kirk live at this event?
Was this a Erica Kirk, T-P-U-S-E-S?
event where the two of them have collaborated before.
Has there been a collaboration with the two?
Okay.
Has there been a collaboration with the two at all?
Like if you go on YouTube and type in Erica Kirk and this pastor's name,
if you can go on YouTube and type in Erica Kirk and the pastor's name,
you'll see where I'm going with this.
So, yeah.
Okay, so boom, boom.
is it
I don't know guys
I'm just asking
I have no idea
who this man is
but he's a phenomenal speaker
okay
so then here's
so then here's what I would say
if he's at a turning point USA
on stage
saying something like that
that means him and Erica Kirk
have to be on the same page
but turning point USA
brings a lot of speakers
that doesn't mean that everybody
like Erica and I
don't have a relationship together
so it's not like you know
it's a I've met her many times
a handful of times
when I've with Charlie
but it's not like there's a direct relationship
and contact that we just simply support the family.
For him to say that, okay, got it.
He's making his point there.
There's some other thing.
You were talking about Tim Poole.
Tim Poole said something.
I think Rob found like a clip where they...
I'm going to give my final thoughts on this.
Rob, if you want to play this final clip with Tim Poole
and then we'll get into what I'm thinking is going on here.
Go ahead, Rob.
I'm like, how come nobody came out and said Candace is in on it?
Not his question.
I think I saw some of those tweets.
That why does she employ a law from?
that works in a federal building or in a building with a bunch of federal undercover, you know,
whatever. And so my response was jokingly like, whoa, that proves that Candace is part of the
sciop. And she accidentally just outed her handlers. There's an interesting conundrum in a show
claiming that you'll be silenced for criticizing Israel and people are trying to kill you while
having one of the top podcasts in the world or like years now and making tons of money doing
it. You know, I kind of just find it hard to believe that YouTube, Spotify, Apple are all like,
prop this up because Nick Fuentes got banned
mind you and she's like remember
you can't say these things otherwise you'll get banned
and then she's promoted massively in all these platforms
Nick Fuentes is on Spotify and he gets
banned when his podcast grows and he's
censored but Candice Owens
is propped up on all these platforms
promoted
and her lawyers are in the same building as the feds
uses. YouTube's always
chosen who gets to be number one
and who gets big who gets views so I
do think it's a fair question
why is Candace
I see where he's going.
All right, you can pause it.
It sounds like he's deeply questioning.
Yeah, I get what he's doing as well.
And I got it.
By the way, just so you guys know, he makes a point because Lear Cohen, who's a former Jewish
music executive, is now running YouTube.
He's the global head of music.
And this guy was a very, very much one of the most biggest power players of the Jewish community
in a music, not a Jewish community, music.
And I want to say he had a major feud.
Was it Ice Cube I asked about it?
I asked somebody about him.
Rob, do you remember?
Last one, it was a Shug Knight.
Oh, we talked about Shug Knight with them.
You're right.
It was Shug Night.
Good call, because I know Shug and Rob are very close.
So it was Shug Night.
But you know what it makes me think about?
Here's what it makes.
So Tim Poole, good point on what he said right there.
Here's what I will say.
You know what stops the whole thing?
Candice, you know what would stop the whole thing?
A Candice Erica Kirk podcast.
And then it stops the whole thing.
Because you know what that does?
That finishes everything off.
Let's go through on a few different things.
If an Erica Kirk and a Candace Owens, two-hour podcast happens,
I think it'll be the most viewed show she's ever done.
Okay.
And the world will finally see and say,
oh, there is a real relationship between them two.
We know there's a relationship with her and Charlie.
Of course.
We've seen it.
There was, yes.
But we don't know what that relationship looks like.
Maybe Erica Kirk is on Candice's side.
maybe Erica Kirk doesn't have any problems with this.
And by the way, if she doesn't, then guess what?
Nobody else can say anything else and everybody's got to move on.
On that specific front that comes up to what?
The Charlie Kirk and Erica Kirk.
Let's sit down one aside.
Now let's go to the next one.
The hit, the $1.5 million hit that's been put on Candace,
her claims that she's also told the U.S. government, et cetera, et cetera.
Okay, great.
So when you go and process that one
Here's a few things you've got to go
Let's there's only one person knows whether this is real or not
And it's Candace and her husband
Nobody else knows this but them right
Is it fair to say that there's only
If it's a credible and actual threat
Meaning they have the information in front of them
Yeah, or whoever gave them the information
Phenomenal okay so she found it
Great so let you or whoever gave that
And maybe that person is also plain like you know that whole one video
That they show that she's reading off the address
And the address happens to be her
lawyer's address, and they're like somebody spoofed or whatever word they used that they got her.
Docs. Oh, yeah, not Docsinker. It was, it was somebody send out a real credible email and it's like,
no, this is actually your lawyer's office that we're given, but happens to be CIA. Anyway, so maybe somebody
is doing that with her. Is there a possibility that a death threat would be given to somebody like
Candace owns? 100%. To anybody that thinks it doesn't, 100% for the stuff that she's talking about.
Of course, there's credibility that it could happen.
I have a list of 50 names.
If I were to rank the 50 names of where she would rank of content creators,
she's definitely in the top 10 list.
Some could argue she's in the top five list, okay?
So let's set that part aside that is there likely or that something like that could happen.
Yes, she's very loud.
She is constantly pushing the envelopes.
Okay, so that could be the possibility.
All right, let's go to the next one.
The next one is, is how many things
has she so far gotten right?
I don't know, but I do know a lot of people
are following the stories very closely.
Mikey and, you know, the Bill Ackman,
the $150 million.
Bill Ackman had to respond and say there was no issues here,
$150 million.
Netanyahu offer the letters,
and then Netanyahu shows the letter
that Charlie Kirk wrote that said,
yeah, I want to help Israel to deliver the message is better.
He wanted to be a Catholic.
There's plenty of clips that said he had.
had no interest of ever being a Catholic.
One of them was with Michael Knowles.
So a lot of this stuff has happened
where people are kind of speculating
on what's going on.
One documentary, I believe everybody needs to watch,
is the story of Morton Downey Jr.
It's called provocateur.
And the challenge with, you know, success is the following.
It's very challenging.
Very, very challenging.
This happens to athletes.
This happens to Hollywood.
This happens to actors.
This happens to women.
this happens to men this happens to everybody
where you know
you're playing playing playing
like the other day they're showing a clip of LeBron James
Luca bumps into him falls down
but LeBron doesn't offer to pick him up
and they're saying that LeBron now doesn't like the fact
that Luca's becoming the face of the Lakers
guess what LeBron the reality is
you're no longer the 32 year old LeBron right and that kind of happens
40 years old I think Candace is in her peak so I'm not going
and saying this but what Morton Downey Jr. did is
he had a TV show at one point
point that was a top TV show, passing Montel Williams, passing Rosie, and passing Oprah Winfrey,
he was crushing it with the ratings.
If you've never seen this documentary, go watch it.
It's absolutely sick.
Incredible documentary.
Eventually, he got to a point that he was so on fire that one day he tells his producer to cut his hair in the airport,
I'm paraphrasing what happened, and write the swastika sign on my face to say,
the KKK and stuff like that, they're coming after me.
And then a few months later, the producer on Phil Donahue show, I believe,
went on there and said, I can't be in on this anymore.
This is not true.
This never happened.
I feel like crap.
I had to come out and say this because it never took place.
You don't happen to Morton Downey Jr.?
Disappeared.
Nobody knows who Morton Downey Jr. is today.
And the only reason you do is because you probably watch a documentary.
Go watch the documentary.
Hands down is insane, okay, on what you.
happened there. So that's that part. So maybe that's what's going on. Maybe she's entertaining.
And I'll tell you the last thing here that any of these things that could be taking place
is the last one is maybe, just maybe, when you talk to lawyers and you ask lawyers, what do you
think is going on? You talk to entertainment lawyers. Maybe the lawsuit with Macron that have offered
everything so far, maybe they have offered everything so far that it's getting so nasty that there
needs to be an event for that lawsuit to be dropped because we all know what happened when
Alex Jones got sued and how much money was targeted for Alex Jones. What is that number, Rob?
That was $1.4 billion. I don't know what the number was. There was a B in there.
And it gets to a point that you realize some of these lawsuits can destroy careers. So one lawyer
said maybe that's what's there, one and a half billion dollars to liquid his assets and all this
other stuff. Maybe that's what's also going on. I don't know. All I care about is the following.
We have a couple things here that we do with the podcast.
That is very hard.
You know, we have relationships with many folks.
I think even when Candice had her following up with Daily Wire,
I think a lot of people would say, and she may even say this,
we were probably one of the only ones that defended her and backed her up,
and we got nothing out of it.
It's not like, hey, come to us, let's sign you.
No, everybody thought we were doing that.
Everybody said, Candice is about to go to Vaitainment.
Nope.
I had a conversation with her about some suggestions I made to her,
one say publicly, speaking to her and I.
And we had very good conversations together
for about two years and all this other stuff
that we went back and forth.
And she was great as she was going through it
because I think we need the voices to be out there.
And I hope she stays in this game.
But more from, you know, Vinny, sometimes in life,
let me tell you what happens, man.
you're not even aware of it.
Somebody gets a hold of your ear
and you're permanently done.
You lose incredible opportunities.
You lose marriages.
You lose friendships.
You look great business opportunities
because someone's in your ear.
And you watch somebody
and all of a sudden go like this.
You're like, wait, what happened to this person
that was back then?
Now, keep in mind, again,
if there's an interview with Erica Kirk,
if there's an interview with all these other things,
if the U.S. government comes out
and says, this is actually real,
which I actually give
credibility that could happen
somebody could be willing to take around
I say that if it comes out
then everything I just said is gibberish
and you just move forward
but if not
it you know
it's it's a rough place to be
I don't think it's gibberish back you're just asking
the right questions and I know exactly we're talking
about the people that it recently happened
where I saw one person enter the scene
and this person who I love and respect
went completely the bottom of it
yeah of course I was like whoa
you know too. I was like, wait, what the hell?
That's right. I'll tell you after. I literally
saw and I wanted to say
the writing is on the wall
but your back is to it right here
and everybody's telling you, turn around
and look, look at the writing on the wall.
You know what those people are famous for doing?
You know what those people are famous for doing?
We had a guy that was
with a girl.
What they're famous for doing is
they want you to cut ties
with everybody else
and they want to have 100%
influence over you. I've seen that. Don't trust anybody but this one by one and it goes
with family, it goes with friends, it goes with, I'm not saying that's the case. I'm not at all
speculating there. What do you think the percentages that Erica Kirk is going to sit down with
Candace and do a podcast? I don't know. Listen, I call 20, 25 the year of surprises.
We got one month left. Yeah, I don't know. I wouldn't be surprised if that happens.
I would be shocked to see any interaction between the two because this is my opinion. Charlie and her
were friends yes were i don't see any evidence that her and erika were friends in fact my opinion
once charlie got married to erika it was kind of like thanks for all your efforts friend
further evidence if you want to bring receipts everybody and their mother literally came to
charlie kirk's funeral why didn't she go what's the actual reason can someone provide the
reason you wouldn't go to your friend's funeral so then
she goes to war against turning point
USA then she literally
starts questioning the integrity
of Erica Kirk I'm sorry
this is the exact opposite of how
a friend operates that to me
is the most disgusting thing
forget about what she said about
Israel and Jews and BLM and
liberals this is friendship stuff
this is friendship stuff
the most valuable currency you have
are the relationships you have your friends
in my opinion she's burned
every bridge she's ever been associated
with whether that's turning point
USA whether that's a daily wire
whether that's Prager U, Charlie Kirk
Stephen Crowder
I don't know what's going on even in this room
but it's not like we're loving
what she's doing these days I'm asking
you a serious question who are her
friends at this point
to me she's very lonely
I think she's very close with Tucker I do think she has
how many more can you name though
because she's losing people like Tim Poole
she's losing people like Stephen Crowder
who's calling her out. He called her a evil see you next Tuesday.
I don't think, I don't think he and her work together.
No, no, no, no. The Crowder thing, you have to isolate each one of these.
We can't just say some like that.
Other than Tucker, who's defending Candace?
Crowder and her at an issue after Crowder and his wife went through the divorce
and there were rumors about, created about Crowder that never ended up coming true.
And they threw Crowder under the bus.
And so there's been a rift between them with that $50 million contract that he publicly talked about.
on video. I don't know if you guys remember that.
You're right. There seems like there's a riff
with every single person that she
interacts with other than Tucker. Genuine
question. I'm not trying to throw her under the bus.
Who's Candace's friends? Who are
allies? Can we name a name?
Anyone? Anyone? She's got
more than you would believe. Name a name.
No, she's got a lot of them. I'm sure that there's
Twitter
army out there. But what
famous names advocates
are saying, I'm with Candace.
Tucker maybe? Who else?
no no she i can't name one i get what you're saying i understand what you're saying maybe not the
people that you're naming earlier i'm just saying a name other than tucker guys i am just trying
to be very what's the word i'm trying to be very not diplomatic logical me too because i called out
and i'm not like i you know i said some things about erika earlier about the hands with the back of
that so it's not like i'm making friends today oh thankful let me go make some friends today dm what a great
show PBD today. You were awesome. I'm not going to get those messages. But we're still
friends, but but to me Vinnie that's that's a part of where we, we, we, you know, I hope the
audience that watches us, 20% of you guys watch us because you can't stand us. And I'm okay
with that. I still, I'm thankful for you still because I don't mind those messages. We need
those messages that we also go and do research to get better. 80% of you guys support us and
we love you for it. And those of you who do, I think you watch us because you think we're fair.
and we're just regular people
that are just questioning things
and going through it
and we want to find out what's going on
but we want the betterment
for all of these guys
because at one point
when we were on the same page
here's a reality
by the way
if more of these divisions
happen in 2028
Newsom gets elected
America ain't America
nope that's for sure
you're worried about that
76,000
Afghanis to 200,000
I came up
imagine Newsom is the one
that's president
you don't think he's accustomed
to opening that border in California
what do you think happens
the next night that takes place
actually think about it
so to me my consideration
concern is, if I never talk to a person again and they're upset at me, but it keeps America
safe, to me, America safe and America first is above all the other stuff. And by the way,
we can do that without privately leaking conversations. Like, by the way, nowadays, I have a list
of people that I talk to. When I talk to them, I say, this person's probably recording the
conversation. I have a list of people that I talk to. I'm like, yeah, that person's on that list. That
person's on that list. This person's on that list. No, I don't think this person is recording that
conversation. I have those people that I talk to. Very interesting. And, and, and, and, and, but,
but the reality, if you're fairly reasonable and fair and consistent and, you know, your four team
humanity, at the end of the day, I'm four team humanity. Eventually, long term, the right people
will, uh, uh, end up, God willing, team humanity over there is what you're saying. All right, let's get
to the next door here. Next door I want to get to us.
Vinny, you had one thing here that you played, which I, yeah, it's getting very hot here.
You had one thing that I, uh, Rob, can we do a temperature like we stay on like a 703?
Adam, take your clothes off.
Tisch, Tish Hyman, that's his way of going to the bathroom.
That's his way of going to go to the bathroom.
So Tish, Tish Hyman.
Yes.
Calls that Eric Swalwell.
I love that.
And Vinny wants to react to this folks.
Tish Hyman is the same lady who was in the bathroom when a transgender is in there changing,
with his dangling hanging out, and she goes out there screaming,
and they kick her out of the gym,
not Mr. Dangling, who was dressed like a girl
with broad shoulders that can bench press,
two plates and a quarter on each size 10 times,
that I believe beat up his ex-wife when he used to be straight
or something like ex-girlfriend.
Oh, yeah.
But here's a big guy that could hold somebody down and commit a rape.
You saw the picture of his private parts?
No, I'm just saying, no, no, no.
I mean, he's a large.
Physically, oh, he's a muscular man.
Sorry, I just thought, like, because I'm not...
Rob, we can't show the clips that if he has those videos and pictures.
Oh, my gosh.
Hang on, hang on.
I'm reading from Adams' news.
Stop it.
Okay, go back to...
Go ahead and play this clip, Rob.
Go ahead, Rob.
Are there going to be men allowed in the women's room anymore?
We need to know...
No woman should be harassed in a locker room.
Answer straight.
Are there going to be women?
Are you against men in women's locker rooms and sports?
That's all you need to answer.
I'm telling you.
I'm telling you.
I don't want men harassing you in a locker room.
I know.
It's happening all around America.
There are 45 women in the women's prisons right now,
raping them, picking them out like chicken.
The trans men are not women, and they're raping women.
So I don't care if you on the Democrat side, the Republican side.
We need to be on the women's side, people.
It's happening to our girls.
It's happening to our women.
And I'm here to let everyone know that this is happening.
Watch this.
No, just do me favor.
Pause it right there.
Watch what just happened, Vinnie.
Go back 10 seconds ago.
And I don't want you to look at her or look at Swalwell.
Stay right there, Rob.
Just look at the audience right there and look at their faces, nationalities,
and see how many them clap for what she said.
Look at that because that means they're in agreement with them.
And this is in California.
Swalwell is trying to run for the governor of California.
Pay attention to the audience, not Swalwell.
Not the lady. Go ahead, Rob.
Watch what she says.
Wait comments and statement.
It's happening to our girls.
It's happening to our women.
Yes, it is.
I'm here to let everything know that this is happening.
Open your eyes.
Who's clapping?
Pause, pause right there.
Who do you see clapping?
Nobody.
Not a single person is clapping and agreeing with her because they're there to support Swalwell running for governor.
Keep playing it, Rob.
Wow, what a shame.
By the way, before I come to you, can you do me a favor?
You know what, matter of fact, I'll come to you and I'll play Charles Barclay video.
I just, I don't know if you saw that one or not.
I'll send it to you as well, Rob.
Go ahead, Vinnie.
And Rob, can you cue up the other one of Eric Swarwell because I'm going to go to voting?
And just really fast pat, you mentioned this guy is running for governor.
Okay, and if you guys remember, was it two weeks ago, Robbie?
Where we showed, and you don't have to show it, Rob, Scott Weiner, who's going to be taking over Nancy Pelosi's spot.
doesn't care about men and women's bathrooms.
He's so pro-LGB-Q, whatever.
And I want people to understand.
I'm curious, number one, where are all those loud-mouth, pro-woman, what is it called, Adam?
Feminist?
Where are they at?
Where, when, what's his name?
I'm drawn a blank.
Who was the Supreme Court Justice that was going up and everybody in their mother from Alyssa Malone?
Brett Kavanaugh.
I'm here for you, Vinny.
I love you.
How many women were, oh my God, what he did to women in high school,
even though he had a freaking documentation.
He liked beer, bro.
Yeah, he liked beer.
And all the, remember that whole me too?
And where are you all at?
Tom, I'm genuinely curious.
Here you have a black, lesbian, Democrat who's, like, she's screaming at the top of her lungs.
This is going on week three.
It's almost been a month.
Where are all the prominent black, black?
voices to stand up for this girl.
She's out here by her damn self.
Where's the gay community?
Where's the black community?
Where the feminist?
You guys ain't doing shit.
The answer is she's stepping out of line.
And what she's stepping out of line is because the victim de jour is the tea.
And that's what the Dems need.
The Dems need victims to support victims to claim that conservatives and others are taking away freedoms.
And so they believe it.
They don't want their daughters in those locker rooms.
They don't want their daughters molested.
They don't want that to happen.
But they're not going to say it when the guy who was tricked by a Chinese spy
and was playing hide the salami with a spy is now running for governor of California.
And they're ignoring that from his background.
They're ignoring the victimhood.
And this is a rational woman saying, I was at a gym.
I worked out.
I took a shower.
I was changing.
And there's a guy there.
It says a tall muscle.
man who had the physical capability of committing an assault, and it scared the hell out of me.
Yeah, by the way, here's what Charles Barkley had to say about this. Vinny, I'll come back to you.
Go for it.
Very simple for you, Dan.
Men should not play sports against women.
I'm not going to get into all the bullshit that's going on out here in the world today.
If anybody think that, I think they're stupid.
I'm not, like I say, I support the gay community 100%.
I support the transgender community 100%.
But I do not, under any circumstances, it's zero, think that men should play sports against women.
And if anybody have a problem with that, they're going to have to get over it.
Because I'm not going to change my, I'm not going to change.
I just think it's wrong, period.
If people disagree with me, I'm good with that.
Hey, we disagree.
I'm not mad at you.
I don't hate you.
And by the way, this is a guy that probably didn't vote for Trump, probably voted for Kamala,
probably voted for Biden
probably voted for Obama
but what he's saying is
hey Democratic Party
if you keep talking about the shit
we're going to keep losing
and Vinny what's this video
is this the phone call video
and yeah yeah
and Pat I'm just
I can't even speak
how is this still even an issue
men with penises
okay
not transition which I still don't give a shit
because you still have the testosterone
how is it still an issue
that you're able to go
in a woman's restroom, take your pants off, and she's like, oh, my God, there's a guy in
here, and there's little kids in the gym as well, because parents bring their kids.
And then number two, men and women's sports, as if we didn't learn, especially with that
freaking Middle Eastern boxing, it looked like my freaking cousin Eddie, beating the shit out
of women.
I don't get it.
I don't get it.
And this party is still hanging on to it.
And this is a clip, guys, if you want to know who's going to be running for governor, as if
Californians, you already got the worst of the worst with Gavin.
Newsom, you nailed it. Mr. Fang Fang, who was one of the worst who farted live on national
television. I tried to deny. He actually did. This guy's one of the most incompetent
ones on the market. He farted live. Pat, he farted live and you could actually hear it. I'm
going to find it for Rob. But this is him saying that guess what? He wants people in California
and nationwide to be able to vote by phone. Go ahead, Rob, play this clip. I want us to be able
to vote by phone. I think every California.
Vote by phone. Vote by phone.
If we can do our taxes, do our, you know, make our health care appointments, you know, make, essentially your, do your banking online, you should be able to vote by phone.
Text thing, make it safe, make it secure. But it's actually already happening all over the United States.
I want us to be a blue state that doesn't do just a little bit better than like Georgia or Alabama when it comes to like voting access.
I want us to max out democracy. Also, as it relates to democracy, if you wait in line for 30 minutes or more, if you do want to vote in person,
I think you should find every county for every minute that a person has to wait longer.
We have to be better, not just a little bit better than the other states.
Why don't you do this?
You know what solves all of it?
Make voting day a national holiday.
Just do that.
That's simple.
Everybody can go vote.
Make voting day a national holiday.
What is a bigger day than the day we're hiring our next box?
There isn't.
To make the decision for the next leader.
This is it.
So why don't you just announce it's a national?
national holiday.
Yeah. Everybody go vote on that day. Why not do that?
And put all the votes on the blockchain so that they could all be audited. One per person,
you have to be here. Boom. Guess what? Easy. The Democrats rebel against everything that is not
manipulable. All you have to do is look under all their arguments. Why do they argument for
absentee ballots? You can harvest them. You can go to old folks home. You can fake them.
Why do they want no ID? Because you can bust people around in circles. You can be like,
Chicago. Vote early and often. It's election day. That's what they want. Whenever you talk
about, you know, they always want to talk about control freedom of speech or the right, but when
you want to talk about controlling elections with blockchain or some things that we have sitting
right in front of us, the answer is no, no, no, no, no, no, and then you look at the map, red, blue,
and it all speaks out. So, you know, their words talk loud and the numbers scream is the voting fraud.
And that, that, and I know, I want to come back on a quick, this is the Democratic Party in a nutshell.
Keep the border open, import terrorists to come here, give them all the money in the world, and guess what?
If you're a guy that says that you're a woman, get your ass into that bathroom and assault and just make everybody on freaking comfortable.
That's, that's their entire platform.
That's it.
Because nobody can give me an answer on anything that they're running for positive.
Go ahead.
Give me one, Adam, what would be the main?
And I'm being that serious.
The number one democratic, like, campaign slogan push is what?
We're not Trump.
There you go.
It's it.
There's no policy.
Go ahead.
I'm sorry.
Well, the reason that you were, like, stumbling on your words and you couldn't find your words.
My brain hurts.
It's because what you're, the word you're identifying that you're trying to find is identity hypocrisy.
They're playing this whole identity thing.
So you've heard the thing where it's like, well, listen, that might be the truth, but this is my truth.
Yeah.
When you say my truth, you know.
know what could be true, whatever you make up in your head.
This is my truth.
It's a definition of moral relativism.
Here you have, listen, support your lesbian, black women, of course.
The lesbian black woman doesn't want full-on men in the woman's locker room.
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
A black woman, relax.
Easy, lesbian black woman.
Chill.
Don't mess with our voting, too.
So she's the loudest person they would love to silence.
Something tells me that this lady's not going away.
Okay.
By the way, I think she should run for office.
serious, I was going to say that.
Not in California.
Tish Hyman.
Not in California.
I think Tish Hyman.
Because look at the round of applause, she didn't get.
Oh, by the way.
But I bet you Tish.
Tish, Tish, Runt for office.
Please.
Tish, Tish, Tish, Tish.
She's a rapper.
Look how Jack she is.
Yeah.
She's a lesbian woman.
It's like this.
Not that guy.
But not a snitch.
The guy in the gym.
I don't know.
What do you think?
Can you find that picture of the guy?
It was a full on man.
No, obviously.
He didn't even fake it.
He did his eye lashes.
this identity hypocrisy
when, like, so there was the
governor race in
Virginia earlier this month.
We're a black Republican
against a white Democrat
liberal. Abigail Spanberger
ended up beating
Winsome Earl Seals. Support your black women.
Support your black women. Stick up for your...
Oh, unless she's a Republican. No, they don't, don't,
don't, don't. We're not here to support
a Republican. When Larry Elder ran
against Gavin Newsom, support your fellow
black... No, not if he's a conservative.
out. Yeah, he's a sellout. He's not the plantation. This whole misgendering and they, them, and my truth, it's all a fallacy. It's all a house of cards. So when you have someone who's clearly a black female who's saying, protect the locker room from this, quote, unquote, woman, that's a full on dude. No one in their right mind would look at this person and misgender them. It's a dude. But when he, with a dude with a dick, walks in, he goes, I'm a lady. And then she's the bad person. She gets removed. This is California for you guys.
Gold's gym, fail.
Tish, run, run. Run. Run for office.
You run for office, we'll bring you on the podcast and interview you.
You know it would be amazing?
Go run. Run for office, yes.
You see how Jack she is?
Yeah.
I would like her to fight, he, him, right there in a boxing match.
She'd win.
And let's see who wins.
Yeah.
I'd pay for that.
Okay.
All right, so let's go to next thing here.
He already, he's won and O with the TKO against a former girlfriend.
Yeah, put it in a hospital.
According to legal documents and a charge.
Let's go to the next.
That's his truth, though.
Let's go to the next story.
Next door I want to get into is meta employees compared themselves to drug pushers as company buried mental health harms to kids in unsealed documents.
Rob, I believe you have a video on this.
If you want to pull this up, is this it, Rob?
Yeah, this is a Reuters report on the story.
Is it like one of those things where a person comes up?
A newscast, yeah.
Let's see what it looks.
And I'll let you know to stop it or just read it.
META shut down internal research into the mental health effects of Facebook
after finding casual evidence that its products harmed users' mental health.
That's according to unredacted filings in a lawsuit by U.S. school districts
against META and other social media platforms.
I'll read it faster.
I'll read it fast.
Alarming details surface in Northern California district
where the coalition of U.S. state attorneys general school district
and parents are soon met a Google-owned YouTube.
TikTok snap over allegations that they prioritize.
profit over misleading the public about potential risk of children.
Oh my gosh, y'all, IG is a drug.
One meta user experience researcher allegedly states in an internal chat
according to documents, cited in the court records,
were basically pushers.
Another meta employee allegedly responded.
Instagram chief, Adam Masseri, doesn't want to hear it,
freaked out when presented with an internal review about how the app
was essentially getting kids hooked and dopamine hits.
And one researcher said, the plaintiff alleged CEO Mark Zuckerberg
and other executives lie to Congress.
Okay, so we know where this is going.
Tom, where are you at with this story?
I'll tell you where I'm at.
The truth is coming out there and it's leaking out.
And now even the people that work at social media
are out there with it.
Let me tell you, we're being gaslit by congressmen
and senators that are bought by the tech companies
that are driving social media.
Not all of them, not all of them, but a lot of them.
And this is where Zuckerberg went to,
Congress, and he spoke about some of these things.
We don't have data on that. We don't know about that.
But apparently there's emails coming from SVPs and, you know, internal communications,
I suppose, like a Slack or something similar.
They're using inside whatever it meta uses.
And I'll tell you, everyone knew the truth, what's going on,
but nobody was talking about it out in the bright light of day.
Rob, if you could search for Dove Soap Reverse Selfie.
So Dove Soap, marketing people inside Dove, Pat, were looking at this and saying,
there's a problem here.
And they saw what girls were doing in terms of, they looked at the statistics from girls
cutting, depression, and things they were doing.
And they were convinced, based on data they saw, that they said there's a problem here.
And they did this ad campaign called Reverse Selfie, where they were advertising it.
And they started by, and it was called, it opens up reverse selfie called Toxic Influence.
And basically, they were trying to get moms and dads to understand that there were bad things happening in social media.
And they put it with the pure.
They've said the purity of Dove Soap goes with the purity of who you are and who you were born and who you are.
And we want parents to do this.
By the way, they had issues apparently on day one getting it on TV.
some TV didn't want it.
Hey, we've got to be careful with this.
So you know what they did?
They bought time in movie theaters
and they were running it as an ad pre-roll
in movie theaters.
And I remember seeing it.
And so now you've got people like Dove
was looking at the stats.
This is looking at the stats.
We've been talking about the book
that we want everybody to read.
And so my point is
now we've got people finally
coming out on social media talking about it.
Folks, this is a time
where we have to be
At Thanksgiving, we talk about how thankful we are for our kids, how thankful we are for our family.
Well, we can also be thankful that people are taking risks to put facts out, and people are taking
risk to make ads, even though this goes back a couple years for Dove, because the negative influence of
social media is there, for the love of God, wake up, take care of your kids, hold them close,
and the more, and the closer you hold them, and you have dialogue, and the farther you keep
them from social media to get their props and their reinforcement, the better it will be because
now we hear people from Facebook, Pat, saying, man, we're like drug pushers. We were doing it.
This is like a drug. And they're saying that, Vinnie, looking at the data. Adam, your thoughts.
Yeah, of course. So we talk about being addicted to all these different things that are out there,
gambling, sex, drugs, alcohol, cigarettes. The most addictive thing that is the most ubiquitous is
social media and your smartphone.
So, you know, if you look at the 30
and under crowd, small percentage
of people are addicted to these things.
10%, 15% alcohol, cigarettes,
gambling sex, almost 100%
of people under 30 are on their phone
hours on hours on a day.
It's so pervasive that we don't even think of it as a problem.
And I'm so glad that meta has basically highlighted
the fact that Instagram and social media,
TikTok, for that matter, is a drug.
It is the most addictive drug
you can possibly have? Because you don't think that it's a drug. The challenge that we're having with
Gen Z is they never had a chance. So your kids, Tom, your kids' PPD, they're essentially in the
youngest version of Gen Z or the oldest version of Gen Alpha. And they've had a decade of
data and stats to say, listen, guys, you probably don't want to have your kids on this all day,
every day. But 10 years ago, 15 years ago, Gen Z never got that warning. And parents, maybe they
didn't understand what was going on. They're like, here,
here's an iPad, here's a phone, it's all
good. And the reverberations of that
were still dealing with. Women, self-esteem
issues, men, crumbling
as a man, all these issues
are happening in society, and Gen Z
didn't even realize it was happening to them.
So now, kids, we have
the conversation these days,
should you let your kid have a phone before,
what was the numbers, 15, 18,
whatever it was? There was a whole host of different
data sets, but almost 100%
of kids, Gen Z, got a
phone. By the time they were 15. So when I said they never stood a chance, they didn't really
realize how bad it was going to be. And now a lot of them are addicted. And a lot of women have
fell down the feminist trap. A lot of men have gone down the rabbit hole of bad information. And
it's tough out there. I talked to one of our leaders in our company, her and I were speaking
about what's going on with surgeries and how many surgeries people are having and GLP ones and all this
other stuff. I said, look, there's a difference between, you good?
I hurt yourself.
I know what happened.
There's a difference between exercising
and making yourself, you know, get healthier, right?
And going to the gym and taking care of yourself.
If you're not developing the self-esteem of your kids,
they will get caught up in this mess.
Because judgment is coming.
We can right now, can you do me your favorite chat,
have some fun with this.
Can you judge me, Tom, Adam,
and Vinny and Rob on one of our facial features.
Go ahead, judge us.
No, Pat.
Go ahead and have some fun, okay?
I want you to do it.
I want you to do it, okay?
Adam this or, you know, go ahead.
Do you know how much fun you can have with that?
By the way, do you know how much it bothers me this much?
But we do it.
We have fun with it.
It's going to happen.
I think what parents we just need to do is develop the confidence
our kids, because if it's constant comparison, constant edifying certain looks, they're going
to do that.
If you're setting that example for your kids, they're going to do that.
They're going to think that's the way to go, and it's never going to be enough.
There's never going to be enough surgeries.
There's never going to be enough of this stuff that is taking place.
So it is also something that we, by the way, you're right that a lot of kids are dealing
with us.
And Dove, I don't know if I've ever given a shout out to Dub, but good for Dove.
Good for you guys.
They're not even a sponsor.
I don't even know if we use stuff.
But I love the fact that they're doing something like this
to get people realizing this.
We have somebody that takes picture of us.
Every time she takes pictures of us,
I look 20 years younger.
But I know I'm not looking like that.
Yesterday we're playing soccer here,
and I want to do this while we're going through it.
Rob, I'm going to send this to you.
We're playing soccer here yesterday.
We had the Turkey Bowl, okay?
And during the Turkey Bowl, 50 people are here.
And me, at 47 years old,
I decide to play.
You play?
Against 22-year-olds, 28-year-olds, 29-year-olds, a 51-year-old Lewis, but it was mainly
20s and 30s.
And I said, by the way, you know how much I played this?
I have not exercised and ran around a few hours like we did yesterday with these young kids.
Dude, I'm feeling it today.
When I went to sleep yesterday, I'm feeling it today.
Did you score a goal?
But it was, no, but we gave some, listen.
They didn't let you score a goal?
We went to the championship match, but I'm going to tell you who we lost to.
Can you zoom in in this picture?
I'm going to give a shout-out to these guys.
They call themselves the FLB-F-C, okay?
The FLB-F-C, and I got to recognize every one of these guys in this picture.
Even the guy that's standing to the left as if it's not part of the team and his security, he was part of the team.
Okay.
Is this your team?
No, no, this is not my team.
This is the championship team.
They beat us in the championship.
They're all in your team.
And by the way, I got to give a shout-out.
Let me just do this.
Louis Espinoza on that team, okay?
you have Damien Fernandez in the blue right in the middle.
You see him right there.
Sounds Latino. He played light.
He was a best player.
And he was MVP.
I'll show the picture here.
Alejandro Delame.
He was the second in MVP.
He was a leader.
He did great.
And Miguel Barajona and as well as Daniel Espinoza and Robert Carabetta, which, by the way, Roberto Carabeta, stole the ball from me at the end.
And he scored the winning goal.
What?
And then he got fired.
It was crazy.
I ran after.
None of that happened.
Rob, if you can go to the other picture.
Can you go to the other picture?
By the way, every single person in that team was a Latino.
This guy is an absolute stud of a player.
I enjoyed watching him play.
He was great.
He was psycho-competitive.
A lot of guys came out.
Mario put this whole thing together yesterday with the crew, and it was such a great time.
And by the way, if some of you guys want to, you're local, you want to be involved in the next soccer tournament.
We're running very soon.
We're building two Padell courts there.
But it was a great time.
It was an awesome time.
And it wasn't sponsored by Dove,
but I just wanted to give a shout out to these guys here.
But most importantly, you got out there and you touched grass
and you played with your fellow humans
and they didn't play soccer on your phone.
I loved it.
I loved it.
We had a phenomenal, phenomenal time here.
Of course he was.
Dylan scored the sickest goal.
He scored an Olympic goal, what they call it.
You know how.
From a corner kick.
Like, he didn't, meaning it just hooked in.
He scored a goal.
He scored two goals in that game and they beat us.
He's 12 now?
12?
Yeah.
Competing with these guys?
Who was on your team just for the record?
It was me, Louis, Liam, and we had Damien.
No, no, we had Jamil, not Damien.
And we had, oh, Emmanuel, freaking lights out.
And then a goalie, who's good, he's good with us.
He played very good.
Manuel was probably one of your team?
Mario was not on our team.
Mario was not on the first time I played yes.
But, anyway, Mario.
All right, it was a great time.
And let's do the last one here before we wrap up.
Tucker Carlson, Vinny posts this tweet yesterday, cracks up, gets a couple million views.
Just go to Vinny.
So this is Vinny's Twitter account
He says this literally made me laugh
Folks
If you're watching this with your kids
Pause because there's going to be a word being used
That some of you guys may not want your younger kids to watch
And here I'll give you a second
Having said that
Here is Tucker Carlson
Sitting down with Pierce
Pierce is promoting this book that just came out
The Woke
I believe it's called
And here's what Tucker had to ask him
Go ahead Rob
Would you say the word faggot on camera?
No
Why?
You don't want to get arrested, do you?
There's a way to be arrested.
Because it's so harmful to people?
Is it like gay bashing?
What's wrong with that?
Would you use that word?
Faggot?
Yeah.
I just did.
Faggot, faggot, faggot.
But why?
And I'm using it because you're not allowed to because you're...
I'm allowed to.
Go ahead.
I don't want to.
Say, I love gay people.
Faggit.
I'm allowed to.
I just choose not to.
Would you say the word vaget?
So, you know, the context of this is he's...
Tucker is talking to him about, because this is a broader conversation about
the censorship in Europe and what's happening
and them not being able to say anything, Pat, about
immigration or anything
because if you say anything, you're, you know,
you're racist and all that stuff.
Which, by the way, Tucker has a point.
He does.
That you can't say this.
And there are risks behind it.
He has a point to say this.
And Pierce also represented
what he doesn't want to say.
Okay? And that's okay as well.
You respect that. There's some words,
I know I can't say. I don't want to say.
You know, when I had the conversation with Nick
and I'm like,
Hey, you don't need to say some of these words that you're using
because you're already very good at what you do.
You don't need to do that.
But his argument is, hey, I also want to live in America
to be able to say whatever the hell I want to say.
His argument is also a good argument.
But I have a theory.
Okay.
I have a theory, Vinnie.
Bring it on.
And tell me if this is a dumb theory.
And let's see what the audience can say.
Okay, let's hear it.
Maybe this is a dumb theory.
Maybe it's not.
Maybe it's whatever.
I have a feeling, okay?
Because do you know, how many times have you heard Tucker
say the F word before.
I don't think I have. You never have.
I personally personally not that one. Not that one.
He said it once in 2006 on a radio call when he called in.
It's the only time.
2006, which is 20 years ago.
So Tucker also doesn't say that word, but he just started saying that word.
Now why is he saying that word?
I believe in the craziest way that Nick Fontez
has influenced Tucker to speak freely and say whatever he wants to say on his
mind. So Nick Fuentes has brought out the Nick Fuentes and Tucker Carlson out. Wow. Oh. And Nick
is kind of leading Tucker for Tucker to come out and say, man, if that guy's saying it, I want to say
this well. So I believe deep down inside, because Tucker was in such a organized, structured CNN,
you know, who was he with Fox? And I think, was he with MSNBC, not MSNBC. Yes, he was. He was
with MSNBC and CNN and Fox. Because he's been in such a system that you can never say some
like this and then he meets a younger guy
that is saying I'm going to say anything and everything
I think that kind of inspired Tucker to say
if he can't say it why can't I
and this isn't like
you should never how dare you
put Nick on your podcast no I kind of did a
month before he put him on and we had a great
conversation together and it was a
friendly canvo that we had here but to me
this is just saying that I think
Nick is given permission for Tucker
to use some of those words.
And I know this kind of sounds weird
and some people are going to use this
and say condescending and all.
How dare you say stuff like this?
Look, I'm just telling you.
The only thing that you can look at
is all these years he never spoke like this
and all of a sudden he is?
Maybe it's because, okay, why can't I do?
Why can I talk like that?
Is this a crazy theory?
No, I don't think it's a crazy theory at all.
I think you're bringing up something very, very interesting,
is that the new media leadership,
and let me translate that.
This is the podcast in the alternative media
because old media is either dead
or for sale or strike.
We can all agree on that.
You go to the Allen Company Conference.
Would you like to buy a CNN?
No, no, it's not a copy.
It's a real thing.
Yeah, yeah.
You know, it's like a guy pulling out of his pocket.
We know that's going on.
And so new media is struggling.
They bring in, you know, our friend Weiss,
and now she's in there running up and down the halls,
hiring people, and they're raising havoc.
No, she's trying to fix CBS.
So you have all those things going on.
What is the group that it is emerging and is finding its way and finding its voice?
and that is, guess what, podcasting, and you've got Nick Fuentes who does those things.
How can a media establishment guy, that's Tucker.
He was a media establishment.
A minute ago, you know, Adam read the resume of all the regular media giants that he worked at.
That was his legacy.
That's what it was.
He's the only person to ever work for all the big three.
There you go.
I'm saying, Fox News, CNN, MSNBC.
it's the only person who's at his own show
on each of those networks. Not even Wallace?
Nobody.
You sure? You sure? Stossel, Wallace?
Is he? Okay, maybe you're right.
Well, Chris Wallace was on CNN Plus for a minute and 42 seconds.
That's the life of CNN Plus.
So you've got all this happening, and Nick Fuentes is out there sort of being Nick,
being in his way, and just, you know, having his opinion, pushing hard,
but rebelling against a lot of things that he feels and rebelling against control
systems, if you look at Nick.
And so how can that not be influencing
a guy who walked off
Fox and has been a leader
in the podcasting space, only to see
people like Nick gaining traction?
I think there is a cross-the-isle
influencer, and I think
you're on to something. Rob, what was the thing about what
Tom Adam said? So
Chris Wallace has appeared on shows
on CNN. But he didn't have a show.
Tucker's the only one. Yep. Yeah.
He's established. I think there's something there.
I agree with that. I don't know if he's established.
I don't put Tucker as establishment.
I'm saying media establishment.
No, no, I get that.
What I'm saying is Tucker was a guy that was in the establishment that hated it and wanted to be free.
Because I believe Tucker looks at Nick and he sees himself.
But he went around that he couldn't speak that way.
And Nick didn't come with a family who's been, you know, voice of America and, you know, did what he did.
And the CIA, Nick's like, no, I didn't come from a family like that.
I'm going to say whatever hell I want to say.
And he has nothing to lose.
Whereas Tucker has a lot to lose.
Tucker could say stuff like that and lose sponsors.
Nick doesn't...
And by the way, for Nick's next phase of recreating himself,
one of the things I respect about what Nick said is,
I said, you know, what compliment can he give about Charlie?
You know what he said?
I have so much respect for how hard the guy works.
And he says, I know later on, I think he said something like this.
I know later on if I get into it, I'm going to have to do that as well.
Maybe he said that.
But I think for the next phase, he has to get the business side in.
and the business side
there's elements of diplomacy
there's elements of partnership
there's elements of things like that
that he'll need to get to
because he needs to make money
so he can't be owned by anybody
you have to find a way to make some money
you have to or else your donors are going to
people are going to give you money
then what's going to happen so I hope behind closed doors
he has a plan as well
whether you read the Kennedy book
the family or you read the Bush family
they'll all say the same thing
make money protect your wife
life and your kids, then give back to the country
that allowed you to make that money, okay?
So he's got to find a way to get through
that next phase. Adam, we're going to say anything like this? Yeah, I was going to
say something. Just when I thought Tucker couldn't get any worse
in my eyes, he goes and totally
redeems himself and starts using the F word. Good for you, Tucker.
To me... Were you offended? No, not at all.
I mean, I use the F word on this
podcast, and people aren't very happy with me, and I won't use it.
Because there's a difference between an F and a G, that's all I'm saying.
Tucker to me
you bring up a very good point
and I mean this
not in a negative way
just in a factual way
I don't think Tucker is a leader
I think he's a follower
I think he sees what's going on out there
and says okay
all the cool racist kids are following
Nick
F word
F word
and that's what he does
he never takes a stand
against something
that someone else hasn't already done
when I lost respect for Tucker
is when he was on air
defending Trump
every single day and then behind the scenes he says i hate this guy with a passion can't wait till he's
out of office you're gaslighting your audience to defend trump uh january six but behind closed doors
you're talking trash about trump you lost me bro like i truly believe remember when tucker and nick
were feuding three to six months ago and i was like yeah i trust nick more than i trust
Tucker, because at least I think Nick isn't putting on an act. I generally think that he's
anti-Semitic and anti-Black and anti-immigrant. I just, he's a Catholic. He doesn't hide
it. Theocrat, and that's what he believes, and he believes that, you know, Rome is, his words is, the
Vatican is more important. What's that? You think Nick is anti-Semitic? You think he hates
Jewish people? Like, in general. I'm willing to bet that he's not a fan of the Jews.
No, no, I, I, listen. Israel, Jews, yes, not a fan. When you shout the N-W.
like it's going out of style
you probably don't like black people
but by the way
I'm at Thanksgiving dinner last night
and one of
my friend's younger nephews was like
dude I watch you guys
PBD I watch Candice
I watch talker I watch Nick
who's the one person
he asked me but he goes tell me about Nick
I said he's super smart
super talented
I think he goes down the rabbit hole of
very negative
ugly views
But I'm not saying he's an idiot.
It's dismissive.
I never say,
Candace is an idiot.
Tucker's an idiot.
I say, no,
they're smart people
with very different viewpoints on things.
I think Tucker,
who was Tucker's audience
for the last decade before?
It was a Fox News crowd.
How old is the Fox News crowd?
60 and up.
60 and up.
It's like 80 and up.
So Tucker's looking for a new audience out there.
He's in the YouTube world.
And he sees this kid named Nick Fuentes.
It goes, oh, okay, here we go.
Let me try to attract his audience.
Now, Tucker's, what were Nick and Tucker feuding about?
Do you remember?
Do you remember what it was?
I believe it was Nick Fuentes said, well, Tucker called Nick Fuentes a gay kid in a basement.
Yes, in Chicago.
Yeah.
And then Nick Fuentes responded and talked about Tucker Carlson's father being in the CIA.
But there was another factor of what they were arguing about.
Those are some substance and stuff.
Nick basically said, stop pretending that you understand the young American male.
You don't know anything about what we're going through.
you're a rich kid daddy CIA
you're 60 years old
you don't know what it's like to be a 20 something
in America stop pretending
your establishment you're a multi
multi millionaire you don't know what it's like
not to be able to buy a house to have a
girlfriend to get laid to have a career
you don't know basically shut your mouth
Tucker sit this one out that's essentially
what Nick said and it's true
because there's a lot of young men that are basically
have lost their ways
and if they follow the Nick path
they're just going to play the victim got it but in a different
side of things. Okay. To me, Tucker
is fake and Nick is at least real.
Yeah. And
that's what I think. You said that Tucker's following Nick, not
Nick's following Tucker. No, Nick is not following Tucker.
So Tucker is following Nick. Yeah, I think so. So a 60-year-old man is following a
25-year-old. Oh, and by the way, when I say this, this, this is not a
a this to Tucker. I'm in Hawaii 13 years ago, and a girl named Phoebe is teaching me
about Snapchat. When did Snapchat come out, Rob? Can you type in when Snapchat came out?
He's got it 12 or 13 years ago. Phoebe was a baby. Yeah, exactly. I said 13 years ago. I'm sitting
there and she's showing me about this thing called Snapchat. I'm like, what the hell of Snap? She takes
the phone and she's showing it to me. I'm like, wow. Guess who's following who in that moment when it
comes on to Snap? I'm following. So this is not a this. This just means, you know, you're watching.
But at the same time, I think one part of it is, you know, call it what you call it.
I cannot believe I'm sitting here.
Like yesterday is when I'm like, I'm three years away from 50.
I'm thinking of my son, three years away from 50.
That's freaking crazy, right?
13 years away from 60, 23 years away from 70.
33 years away from 80.
You realize that?
It's true.
By then I'm telling you, we can keep doing the math.
43 from 90, really?
53 from 100.
I'm 55 years from 100, bro.
And it's going to happen like that.
Tom, you're five years from 100.
Like this.
I mean, imagine what's 20, hey, there's nothing to fear.
It's okay here.
Can you grab the crew in the back?
Can you grab the crew in the back? Can we hear it?
Can you grab everybody that's here right now, please bring them around and put the camera.
Come right behind us.
Come right behind us.
Look at this good looking guy.
Come on in.
Come behind us.
The Black Friday.
You're the guy from the Black Friday, man.
No, get over in the back.
Come over here.
Come right behind us here.
Come get down so they can see you guys.
Get down.
So I just want to start off.
I just want to start off.
start off by thanking these guys for showing up. They didn't have to. They chose to literally
they didn't have to do this. This is purely all volunteer that they chose to say, we want to come in
and we want to support. We love these guys. We love the work that they're doing. And we appreciate
them. Rob draw four hours today after being elsewhere. And he said, I'm going to come down and I'm
going to do this. And he didn't have to do it. He chose to do it. Want to give some respect to these
guys this show doesn't happen with the people
behind closed doors that do their part
and this guy's the leader
to pack. He's doing a great job with us Justin
and you know Julius
as an actor. He's a very good actor. Happy Black
Friday guys. He's a very good actor. Happy Black
Friday y'all.
And we just want to give a shout out to everybody here.
All the listeners that you were with us today. We appreciate
you. We know you had a happy
Thanksgiving. Rob, you're out there while we're giving you
the shout out. I love Rob. He left the room
to switch. To get the clips out.
God bless. Happy
Thanksgiving go to vtmerch.com place your order so we may call you and eventually have you on the
podcast. God bless everybody. Take care. Bye bye bye bye bye bye.
Thank you.
