PBD Podcast - Allen West On Megyn Kelley Calling Out Ron DeSantis | Ep. 252 | Part 2

Episode Date: March 31, 2023

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Biden tops Trump by two points in hypothetical 2024 matchup trails dissentists a new Quinnipeg A university poll finds that president Biden is in close hypothetical races with two leading candidates Republican parties 2024 nomination Biden leads former president Trump in a hypothetical 2024 rematch with 48% support to Trump's 46 and a Hypothetical election between Biden and Florida governor Ron DeSantis, the other front run for GOP, Biden trails 46 to DeSantis's 48. The poll found Trump leading DeSantis in a head-to-head, but behind with former president earning 52% to DeSantis's 42,

Biden Trump and DeSantis all at similar favorable ratings amongst registered voters, but 37% have in favor of you of Biden 36% of trump and thirty six percent of the centers so you in this case they're saying trump beats the centers but trump doesn't beat biden and if to centers wins the centers could beat biden it how aligned are you with what this poll is shown

no i i think that that poll is very accurate that what is out there and it's interesting that you know ron the santa those numbers, he hadn't even declared. And so I think that you will see an improvement in his numbers, if he declared, look, Ron DeSantis wanted state of Florida in his first election by less than 1%. Over Andrew Gillum, right?

Over Andrew Gillum, Mayor of Tallahassee. What was the thing that took Ron DeSantis over the top and brought single black mothers to vote for him. Education freedom, school choice. That is the forefront issue right now. If they don't want what I've said it was him though. Yeah, well, that's the thing. Leadership is not about first person singular. And in fact, if he was sitting right there, I tell him that you got to stop using first person singular because that's not how you lead people. That's how you get the attention on you. But now that's been signed in the law here in Florida. And when he came back for his reelection,

I mean, he won Palm Beach County. He won Miami-Dade County. He won by almost 20%. Never happens where a Republican carries Miami-Dade County. Never. One and a half million by one and a half million votes. If you'd now, Dems will say Charlie Chris has hands down the worst candidate

in the history of mankind who are all single. So is Joe Biden. So is Joe Biden. And again, you know, Charlie Chris was out there touting the policies, woke stuff, and all this other stuff of Joe Biden. The American people were rejected that they have something clear.

It's just the same as Jimmy Carter coming out in Ronald Reagan. Remember that Ronald Reagan commercial this morning in America? Who could not vote for that? There was only one state in the United States of America never voted for Ronald Reagan. That was Minnesota.

Did you see, yeah, that's right, 49 out of 50. That's right. And by the way, Carter is the, Biden is the closest thing to Carter. If not, well, he's not yet worse data wise, but he's worse in other ways. At least Carter was liked. And you know, he was a man, a Navy submariner, a Academy graduate. No one could sit and say Carter hated America.

No. Just the same as Bill Clinton. Bill Clinton pivoted after his midterm debacle. People will say Bill Clinton loved women more than America. That's an all that. That's an all I got. I don't want to defer to that. Well, they were all American women. But yeah, they were American women. But Bill Clinton is the guy who still. That was good. He didn't. Maybe one of your best. He didn't like them.

American women. Don't. That. That. That.da-da. Thomas. But you were saying, let's love the narrative. I agree. But Bill Clinton is the guy who stood up in a state of union address and said the error of big government is over. Do you think a Democrat could stand up in a state of union address and say that? No.

And so that's why the blue dog, the conservative, the conservative, whatever you want to call it, they don't exist anymore. But the thing is that we have to run on these issues. We have to get out there and find out what are the things as you just talked about earlier. What brings us together? How can we galvanize ourselves? And I will tell you, the issue of education galvanizes this country. It really does because I think that parents a concern about the future for their children.

Look at these inner cities. I mean, Chicago, Baltimore, these kids cannot function math and English at grade level. Some fully agree with you. I think the education in kids is not a Republican or Democratic argument. It's all across the board. Just like Roe v. Wade, if you noticed the stats

on the midterms, he was like, hey, you know, this is something that if you pushed it the way you did, you know, they said McConnell did this to kind of hurt Trump's look to say, he lost all, you read all those stories, you know what I'm talking about, but there's certain things that the American people are saying, leave this alone.

We're kind of at this point here. I think education's being one of them, but I want to continue. Did you see the Sanctus on Pierce Morgan? Yeah. You want to show a whole interview? Well, not the whole interview. Zero to 10. What do you give it? I give him a 7.5. Okay. Do you think he to win at the next level? Like, you know, you read the story about Roger Ailes, how Roger Ailes went to Nixon in 1960 and said, do you know why you lost? You lost because you need a guy like me. I'm going to be your what? You're your media. Whatever. And you need me to come in here and help. Media coach. And then he came in and helped him out in the Nixon one

and he did the same thing with McConnell saying, real deficient dumb. You know, it's like so McConnell wins. Great documentary. Does it with Sean Hannity and all these guys that divide and conquer documentary explains the whole story story right. Do you think charm and charisma selling yourself today is important for DeSantis to be able to win it or do you think America's gonna be okay to say no we just want a guy that's gonna get the job done. We don't care if a guy wants to go out there and shake hands biz dev. No, do any of that stuff. Do you think that's necessary or no? Americans, a visual, Americans want folks to,

it's a show that they like. Look, go back and the televised debate between Nixon and Kennedy. If you listen to it, don't look at it. You listen to it, it was Nixon. But the fact that Nixon looked like he had five o'clock shadow, Kennedy looked young, and in fact, Abraham abraham link and probably couldn't make it today and even back then uh... they said eight you gotta kind of like grow beard because your face it looks to

scrawny and everything all his pictures he had the high collar to to reduce the length of his neck i mean americans visual go back to two thousand and twelve in the election between Mitt Romney and Barack Obama. The exit polls, everyone say who would have been better to handle their comment, Mitt Romney. But who did you like, Barack Obama? So there is an aspect of it. And what I tell people, all the candidates to say, hey, you know, I'd like to get your endorsement. Can you tell me what image message? Those are the two aspects of a person running for office or campaign whatever image a message the other side always wins on image Because their message sucks but people are so

Focused on their image. I mean Barack Obama. I mean you looked at him on television and you just like wow But it's the same thing you see every single Sunday in the black church You know the very charismatic pastor and everything like that But if you just read a speech of Barack Obama you you would say, what, and what is he talking about? And the same thing with Biden in a way. So his image was horrible, so they put him in a basement. And nobody talked about anything.

What did they do? They attacked the image of Donald Trump. So yes, you got to go and look at the Charismatic aspect of leadership, but I wrote this down because I knew you're gonna come to that leadership is about what the army taught me five sees The first see is courage People want to see a courageous person. They want to see a courageous leader the second see is competence Because as you know, no one follows a dummy in it into a firefight So they want to know they have a competent leader. The next C is commitment, a commitment to a core set of principles and values. I mean, you can say what you want about Ronald Reagan, but you know, he was committed to America. He

was committed to the Constitution. He was committed to our fundamental principles and values. Then you got to be convicted. That's the fourth C because even when the winds blow, the poles say this, whatever, you got to stay true North. Leaders stay true North. They committed to something that they're convicted to. And then the last thing is character. Doing what is right when no one's watching. That's what I taught. Soldiers, that's what I taught. My daughter's five C's, courage, competence, commitment, conviction, and character. And when you understand that, and you realize, okay, the two-faced image and message, and you bring all that together, you're powerful. You're going to win 49 out of 50.

So what are you saying about? The Sanctus to me has all five of those. I think he's got courage. I think he's got competence. I think he's got commitment. I think he is conviction. He's got conviction. I think he's a man of character.

I think he's got those things. But this is a difference. I wanna show you this. This is Dr. Albert Merabian's 738-55 rule. I don't know if it's his or somebody else's, but I've seen this and I've read this in books. You've seen it as well. 7% is a spoken word today, elements of communication.

38% is voice and tone. 55% is body language. Does this favor the Santis? This is what you're're gonna identify with this. Remember when you first reported into a unit? Yes. I remember when officers reported in the meeting. Clearly.

Not going to door. They come in, you sizing them up. They're not saying anything you're looking at their uniform, you're looking at their boots, they're special looking at their hair cut, comportment and everything. And then when they stand before you, and they open up their mouth,

either confirms or denies that 55%. So what are you saying? What I'm saying is that you've got to have that visual appearance first and foremost. Well, he has the appearance. And I think that everything falls from that. It's just the same as if I came in here, and you know, I'm Lieutenant Carl Retired,

Alan West, when I'm sitting over here with a beard, I'm two hernd pals overweight, you know, say, what kind of curl was that guy, you know. So you have to present that or that atmosphere. I mean, again, Ronald Reagan, you know, his body language, his physical presence, he was an actor, he knew how to sell it. It comes back what I say, image and message. And you've got to win the image battle really before you get to the message battle, which

is what you say? So, so, again, I'm going to go back to it. Does he have the complete package to win on the big stage with the camera on him 24, seven having to show some charm, some charisma, some vulnerability, likeability instead of just what he does? Yes, absolutely. If he does and was even better, you know what his greatest asset is? Results. His wife, who was in the media. And so she will make sure he knows how to do, bring that all together.

That sentence is wife, you're saying. Yeah, that's, that's his great answer. Some people said it wasn't a good look the way he did media and I look, I'll go to make a tell. Well, but, but, but, I know, I saw the, but he's got to learn that. I mean, is that go to make a tell. But I know, I saw them, but he's got to learn that. I mean, is that enough to learn in a year?

He ain't got that much time because before he announces it, you know, there's a difference between going against the Chris. There's, I think the last time he had a real battle was Gill and Moil and then it was Chris, right? So, you know, there's, you remember when Rick Perry came out? I remember Rick Perry, man. He's gonna be the president. He's gonna be president.

The three agencies. Oops. Man, this guy's done. And he was on fire going to California. If you're sick and tired of regulation, come to Texas. We'll know how to take care. And I'm going to Texas. I want to met with him.

We're at a Texas Ranger. He's gonna discuss frickin' amazing. The charm, the charisma. Scott could be a president one day. Boom. Doesn't happen because of that so there's a difference between big stage and I agree you know so this is the part where there are a lot of people that want this guy to do it there are a lot of people that want this

guy to pull it off there's a lot that want but in business and in leadership there's a difference between wanting a guy because you're liking so much. And it actually happening. And it ends up being another guy that maybe you don't like that much. Sometimes it's confusing to say, you know, I, well, yes, but I will tell you that if you make a mistake, but people feel it was an honest mistake and you own it, the American people are forgiving. But if you make a mistake and you're arrogant about it, they're not gonna be so forgiving.

And that's part of this. I don't think people are looking for that perfect person. I don't think that that perfect candidate is it. So what I'm saying though, because I think, because I actually think if we are looking for more the perfect person, he is more perfect than Trump is perfect. Trump has a hundred times more imperfections than this

guy does. We can name different girls and we can go through the imperfection list, right? So a lot of people could say Trump is more imperfect and he's perfect the other way around. So, but to me, I'm not coming from policy. I'm not coming from there. There's a whole different criticism to say this guy is more the establishment than Trump is. And while we're going through a season like this, where you're talking about China, Iran, Russia, Saudi, Iran, you know, Ukraine, Russia, and you know, what's going on there, Afghanistan, you know, Taliban, everybody's attackments internally, the swamp. Dude, you just there needs to be somebody that's gone through God knows how many different ways of negotiation

and the streets of New York, real estate, some people are saying, if you are saying, Alan, the problem in the world is so bad, you need a scary type of guy where they fear, where the other side is going to say, holy shit, this is not the one guy I want to face off. I would much try to take a guy that knows how to follow the guidelines to move up in his career than another guy that's broken the rules every once in a while where he may be willing to go places that others are not willing to go. This guy doesn't seem like he's in. And what you just did, you made the argument for a George Patton.

George Patton had all kind of flaws. Eisenhower, I mean, he drove, Patton drove eyes on how crazy. But Patton understood one thing. George Patton won. And he knew that he needed him Maybe sometime he had to put him in time out like what you saw after the little soldier slapping incident But he knew he had to bring him off sidelines and get him back into the fight So you've read the book linking on leadership by Donald D Phillips I think is Donald Phillips and he chapter 11 where he says search until you find your grant

And he has this guy named McClellan I think his down of Phillips and he chapter 11 where he says search until you find your grant and He has this guy named McClellan. You know who McClellan was yeah, absolutely phenomenal, right? But it was a trainer. Yeah, he was a thinker, but he was a trainer He wasn't a doer and it wasn't a field general and then he gets this guy never reports anything back never tells him What's going on? He can't find where grant is? He's doing about granks drinking and he's doing this. He's doing that but at the end of the day He wins. He freaking wins becomes one the worst presidents, he's doing this, he's doing that, but at the end of the day, he wins. He's freaking wins. He becomes one of the worst presidents we've had. He was not necessarily the best president, the most important president, but he was a great

exchange leg for, you know, Lincoln, hey, you do your part, you win the war, you make, make us look good, you be the president. It kind of worked out for him. But to me, I'm wondering if we have a situation here like that. I may be wrong. At the end of the day, anything is better than what we have today, correct? Anything is better than what we have today. Bill Mardi are the day called Trump. He says, I think Trump is the greatest politician of all time. He says, and I don't even think he knows that he's the greatest politician of all time. I don't even think he knows that he knows what he's doing, but he's the greatest politician of all time. He says, and I don't even think he knows that he's the greatest politician of all time.

I don't even think he knows that he knows what he's doing, but he's the greatest politician of all time. He said this on the show last week. So there is gamesmanship here, Alan. This is a bar world. So for me, if you're gonna call a guy to be your captain, you have to make sure that captain knows the dirty side. When I ran a small office, and I was an agent selling insurance. Nobody cared about me. Patrick's a nice guy.

Then when I ran a top office insurance in San Fernando Valley, people outside of San Fernando Valley love me, but people in San Fernando Valley didn't like me. So if I went in the mall and I saw a competitor, you mother of Yerraro, because I'm the red competitor, but in San Fernando Valley, we all went to the same church,

we all went to the same gyms, a competitor. You, mother, yeah, that's all. Because I'm the reccompetitor, but in San Fernando Valley, we all went to the same church, we all went to the same gyms, the same LA fitness, the same this, the same that. So then all of a sudden, I'm competing in the state. Then it's regional, then it's national. The moment we became national, and then we started writing two, three thousand policies a month,

then I all of a sudden realized shit, distinct is real. Yeah. A lot of these guys were all sympathetic and understanding why you're so great. And now it's like they're calling other insurance companies for me to lose my contract. Got it. So this is the game. I got to go read a bunch of war books. Yeah. I got to go read a bunch of 33 strategies. War to war power books, then I understood the game. So, the next level he's going to go into is going to be a thousand times darker than what it was in COVID.

And if the American people are going to say he's the guy great, I think he is a man of character, I think he is fully a man who loves America, I think he is a tough guy, but it'll be interesting how do American, American voter, whether they pick him, and by the way, it's still too early to tell anyways. Everybody right now say, no, it's done. Trump's going to win the whole thing. He's going to be the president. I don't think it's going to be that way because I think there's more dark strategies that

they have up their sleeves that we don't know about. But that is the concern of a lot of people when I talk to them. Well, it's a two-person race on the Republican side. I don't care what, you know, all these other folks that are jumping in there, what, 3% here, 2% there, it's a two-person race. They're all racing for VP position. They won't say that, but without a doubt, they are.

And you just brought up a great point. It really is about who you surround yourself with. You know, in the military, a general is only as good as the staff. And so if you want to give counsel to a guy like a ronda sentence, you better pick the right staff to go around you, to get you ready, to go out there, to be on this big stage. And I would make the same offer to President Trump. President Trump made some choices and selections and the people that he's surrounded himself with in his term and office.

So learn from that and get the right type of people around you because I think that it's so important that you have someone. I never wanted an exo and that's three, but definitely a Sergeant Major. I don't want a Sergeant Major to tell me everything that I want to hear. I want a Sergeant Major to pull me out to the side of the Colonel. You about to screw this up. Let me tell you something.

And he would never do it in public, of course. But the Sarimages, my right hand man, that's why he was the Sarimages. So Trump needs a Sarimages. The Santas needs a Sarimages. And hopefully they will go out and find that person that's going to tell them, you know, unequivocally, you screwing this up, but this is how you can fix it. I don't going to tell them, you know, unequivocally, you screw in this up, but this is how you can fix it.

I don't want to put words in your mouth, but it sounds like you're more on a DeSantis camp than a Trump camp at this point. Would I be fair in saying that? I'm on a camp that's focused on fixing, correcting, policy, and solutions. I don't want the camp to sit out there going, you know, with the Mickey Mouse stuff. I don't have time for the Mickey Mouse stuff. I see where this country is headed. I see what we are confronting against. And you're right. There's some dark enemies out there. And we have to ask someone day one, they can start going right at this thing and getting

it right and just push the media to the side. Don't get involved with all of that back biting stuff right there. You got to be focused on the things to the side. Don't get involved with all of that backbiting stuff right there. You gotta be focused on the things that the American people wanna ask you to do, which is to protect their life, their liberty, their property, pursuit of happiness. Let me ask this question, Tom, and then I'm gonna go to you first, okay.

Megan Kelly set the following. She said, Megan Kelly slams the Sanctus for rejecting an interview. He is afraid. Now, Megan Kelly, we know is notis for rejecting an interview. He is afraid. Now, Megan Kelly, we know, is not for Trump, and everybody knows that. If there's a person, she's not for. So she's not lobbying because she's trying to get closer to Trump. That's gotta be all right.

Ever since that first debate stage, where she has blood coming from everyone. Yeah, Megan Kelly revealed on Monday episode that Megan Kelly showed that Ron DeSantis, the Florida governor and likely 2024 presidential candidate, has been turning down her request to interview him on her series XM show suggesting that he's afraid of her interview style. Kelly refused to soften questions to presidential candidates and explain that reporters are therefore the viewers. Not the candidates and journalists need to be adversarial with interviewees. Kelly concluded by saying it disgusts her watching the press running

cover for Biden and hardcore mega group running cover for Trump and that reports, reporters just stop falling in love with politicians and grow a pair because their business is not to be loved. It's to tell the truth, respect will get reporters and audience. Love is for pundits who just want to say nice sweet nothing. So what do you think about what she says here? I think she's right. Oh, go to Tom.

Tom, what are your thoughts on this? I think she's absolutely right. She makes an important point. And what you were both been talking about in this whole line of leadership here, when you look around the world stage, the greatest compliment our adversaries have given US presidents is when they say he's crazy. When Reagan was about to be elected, you saw the Arab world, particularly Iraq saying, that guy's crazy.

And that's because they didn't want to articulate their fear in public. They said he's crazy. When you look at the people that surrounded the emperor of Japan. We now see through memoirs and things that come out when Truman dropped those bombs. Now those were dropped on military and civilian targets. It's horrible. It's a horrible moment in history that had to happen that way. But they all told the emperor, FDR is dead.

Truman's crazy. And that is where it's sort of the doctrine of Kaiser Soze, if you ever remember the Untouchables, he said, the will to do one more thing that the other guy won't. And what usual suspects? Yes, that's right, great, unusual suspects. And I think that's it.

Or usual suspects. You know what I meant with that, I'm sorry about that. But I think so specific. You know I'm with that. Sorry about that. But I think what. What Megan Kelly is asking for is like, hey, I'm not here for your talking points. I'm trying to identify a leader. That's kind of what I see because I see a certain purity in Megan Kelly's approach is that if you get through

that gauntlet, you come out with a lot of respect. And she's not there, I think, to play a good game. I don't disagree with her, though. You know, I don't disagree with her. I'm saying. Yeah, I don't disagree with her. I think there's a part, and by the way, by the way, I don't think it's gonna work for him.

I don't think it's gonna work for him to do the following. Okay, for example, you know the strategy of, because Ron is using Biden's strategy. There's no strategy different than he's not using Trump's strategy. He's using Biden's strategy. He's keeping a low profile. What's Biden's strategy? I'm telling you, if you watch Pierce Morgan's interview,

you can tell a guy is interviewing him who would rather have him than Trump. You can tell in the interview that it's a soft interview. Yeah, he brings some stuff up, but he, it's very obvious for somebody that's an interviewer, you know how an interview is done. Where it's like, if you're here, let's just say, you're trying to be as neutral and moderate as possible

with anybody you're interviewing. Okay, if we know 5% you're a Florida guy, we're okay with it. That's fine, I can't respect that. But if you do an interview and you go 25% they said, you're not doing an interview, hanging out with a friend is what you're doing. That was a 25% interview of what he did.

Pierce Morgan did an interview with Andrew Tate. It was sick because he pushed him. And then Andrew had to kind of defend himself. So Pierce is one of the best interviewers in the world. But for me, the Santis is using Biden's strategy because he's avoiding the hot seat. And Trump is going to come out and say, if you just want to go interview with people that

you like, that's that's Biden 2.0 with the Santas is doing. The Santas needs to go do some real interviews that's going to be uncomfortable. A part of the thing to me, you know who I put the blame on that? I'm going to go where you went, but you give credit, but I'm not giving credit. You know where I'm going with this? Exactly. I'm going to who's his press secretary. They know Christina Pushar, the new guy that he has, you know, whoever it is.

His press secretary is Casey. You know, but see, I would, I would think that she would, you know, train him and get him to understand that, you know, let me do some mock interviews with you. Now, let me, let me, let me throw, you don't think they've done it. I don't know. Or short, they've done it. Well, I would hope so. I mean, I've seen some, you know, you've seen some bright lights when he has had some of these press conferences and left this media has attacked him. It's great though, but that's when he wins.

I know, but that's what I'm saying. I think that that's the asset that can help him that. It's just like when I became selected for a battalion command, I had to go through battalion command charm school and part of battalion command charm school was media relations. And you had to sit in there, youms School and part of Italian Command Charms School was media relations. And you had to sit in there, you got a scenario and an incident that happened

and you had a mock media and they came at you man and I was like, dang, they don't want it. They redirect you and so you have to be able to be on. And that's why I think she could be that asset for him, but if she's not the Sergeant Major, she's not the sergeant major, if she's just playing, you know, cheerleader, you know what it is though, here's what it is. So you're a Colonel, so I salute you. I'm a 44 year old specialist, is the most I've made it.

So I know what the specialist gave me more headaches than everybody else. But you know what, the Lieutenant Colonel Peacocks is who changed my life. Till today, I wish I could find this man. Lieutenant colonel P. Cox is a man that changed my life. He was one of the men that changed my life. I really respected the way he led me, a 20-year-old kid. He was a good man, changed my life in a big way. But here's the thing.

So let's just say you report to me hypothetically and you're 25, I'm 35. You're a fighter, okay? It's very obvious you're a fighter. I'm gonna read that very quickly, okay? So and I know potentially you have what it takes to be a major lieutenant colonel, you got a big upside, right? And you're not even a second lieutenant right now, maybe you're an E6, E5, you're about to become a second lieutenant, your father's gonna come and put that on you at the special moment that you're gonna have. You're the E5 E6. I'm gonna put you in positions to fight

because you are a fighter. I think we just watch Creed the other day. We're in the Rocky series with the kids. I have to go through all of them. I've watched this thing so many times, but I have to go through, because I got two sons, 11 and 9, and they wanna go through all of them.

Once we watch one mission impossible, we're going through 73 of them, right? So however many they got. So, and in Creed, there's a couple of parts where it's like, you know, where Rocky takes responsibility for allowing Creed to fight Drago. And he says, as a corner man, it was my fault. And he was kind of afraid of it, right? I think the corner man here is her.

And she has to let him go fight more of these fights and the longer you go here's the problem the longer you delay this announcement and you go it's gonna take three months of 20 hardcore interviews to make you ready for the stage I don't understand this concept like this is the part about dude you don't know the code. Like as smart as you and I may be, and we can come up with 93% of all the questions people are gonna ask you, you don't know the 7%, we need the 7%.

And the 7% you're gonna get is to go to a Megan Kelly, is to come over here and sit down with us and have a conversation. It's not to go to people that are loving you, they're gonna vote for you, that's not how you win. Trump, the reason why Trump got the credit that he got from everybody, ask me any interview, anytime, any place, let's roll.

You don't have to like that guy, you just have to say this mother, you know, he's willing to go anywhere. But at least there's the respect and the fear, because he's saying, I don't fear you. He says, go ahead, what do you wanna say? Hey, Trump, do you have any, are you a second amendment guy? Yes, I am. Do you want any guns? I do. Do you go out shooting? It's none of your business. Yaba, how do you feel about the second

what's your question? Get it out there. Do you even know what you want to ask? So now the interviewer's a scared of the guest versus in a situation like this, you can't ever pose yourself as you're afraid of the interviewer the interviewer has to walk in and Be like oh shit. I'm interviewing a heavyweight. Am I gonna be ready or is this guy gonna school me? This antis is not giving that energy out. I don't I don't know if you understand what I'm saying I did carry Lake ever seen carry Lake. She's a beast try to get cornered in the hallway She tops and turns and says excuse me. Yeah, your publication said this two weeks ago and you said this to me, and I don't appreciate that.

Well, what you're talking about is that you never went on defense. You only went by season the initiative, Carpe Diem, and going on office. And that's basically what the military teaches you. There's no battle this has ever been won on defense. I mean, even if you have a successful defense, you got a counter-attack. If you want to drive the enemy off the battlefield, call for uncolds what's said, that war is about the imposition of your will on your enemy. And so that's how you have to start looking at this. And you're, you're bringing up a great point. You know, how do you impose your will out there? How do you make sure that you're imposing your

message? How do you come across is that really figure of strength and might that people can rally behind. And that's what America's gonna be like. How did America learn about you? America learned about you, 13, 14, 15 years ago when he gave that revolution message, I don't know if you know what to put you on a document. That went viral, it's tens of hundreds of millions

of views, I was like, who is this guy? Military know who you were, Army know who you were, but the rest of us didn't know who you were. That went viral. It's all tens of hundreds of millions of views. I was like, who is this guy? Military know who you were, army know who you were, but the rest of us didn't know who you were. I was like, damn, I like this guy. He's a frickin' fighter. This guy sounds like he could be a governor or president one day. That's what we want to see.

The guys that are going to be voting and are going to be talking about you. I think we have a fighter here. His name is Rhonda Santis, I think his corner is holding him back and I think his corner needs to realize this man knows how to fight. Has he, have you asked him to come on the show? I have asked him to come on the show and I've even asked him to hold a fundraiser at the house.

I have no prom holding the fundraiser at the house, give me the number, we'll go raise it for you. And he's actually done fundraiser in our community. He's got the open invitation. We've had the conversation come down. I'll bring 20 influencers that are people that have a lot of views and they're in the independent side. These would be good guys to get on your side. He's got the full imitate Christina push out what's here. I've

spoken to his people. We've sent the invite. We've sent the email all of it. But I feel there's somebody behind closed doors. I've already hinted who I think it is that is holding him back not in a negative way and a way of trying to be too perfect with your strategy, but I think it's kind of backfire because DeSantis is a brawler. This guy is a nutter pansy. He is a fighter. He's a brawler, but let him can show his brawling abilities. That's how America fell in love with them in two and a half years When there was a fight during good COVID. We learn about this guy

I think we need to let him loose a little bit You know you break up a great point that you cannot sit around When we would go out to training rotations national training center joint readiness training center The people that will always lose the commanders that would always lose with the ones that set back and try to come up with a 100% plan. And what they taught you in these places is that if you quickly come up with a 70% plan, but you executed to 100% perfection, meaning that you are the one on the battlefield that can quickly adjust, that you're taking in all the branches and sequels, then you're going to be successful. So I see what you're saying is that governor to say sequels, then you're going to be successful.

So I see what you're saying is that governor to say is don't sit around and try to be perfect. Don't try to be cute. Come up and be yourself. And on top of that, how the plan to be able to go out and be successful, understand that you're going to have to be able to adjust and provide the depth and overcome. But that's the essence of a true leader. Because in combat, you can come up with

the greatest plan ever Tom, but you know who has a vote, the enemy. And as we say, no plan survives for his contact, but at least you gotta have a base structure of what you want to go in and look, I sat back and watched your interviews before I came in. And that's because I got to study, I got to understand where I'm coming into. And, you know, I just sat out and, you know, hear my little notes and whatever,

because I've got to be able to quickly adjust off of what you say. But you're a fighter, though. That's what, yeah. No, you're a fighter, that's the scientist. I can't help it. That's who yeah no you're a fighter that and so is the Santa's that's who I am but I think the Santa's is a fighter yeah I think Trump is a fighter and FYI for me this is gonna sound weird to a lot of people I will do fundraiser for Trump I will do fundraiser for the Santhus I will do fundraiser for Biden confusing ain't it and I would bring the same exact 20 people and I would say see if you can win these guys over. Because if Biden comes to our house and we raise the money for you,

tell us what the number is. They're gonna say, do this guy doesn't seem presidential. Hey, that's what happens. We got you the money. What's the number? Half a million, here's a half a million. The 20 people are gonna go and say, dude, I thought he was impressive.

He's not, I liked him, but this guy can be the president. It's not the case. Or he's gonna say, this guy's pretty impressive. This isn't about me picking favorites right now. We need a fighter today because the war is real. The enemy is massive and they're unifying during the time like this, which I do believe, when I was pushing back on the four years,

I do believe this is the most important time, at least in my lifetime. I don't think this is a time to be falling around. I think we need to be doing a better job selling the urgency and I don't see urgency from the centers. That's all I'm saying. If you really are gonna do it, what's see, what month are we right now?

What is it, is it April? It's not April. It's not April. Okay, April, you got what? April, you got 15 months. What is your legislation? When is your legislature session A? Because that's what everyone's saying.

Is he done what announced to the legislature? I think that's in May, I wanna say. Okay, well, let me- Pat, can I ask you a question? In regards to essentially, we started this conversation with Megan Kelly and going into enemy territory versus playing at SAFE to Santa's. I'm trying to rack my brain. I can only think of two politicians in the last five, ten years who will go into enemy

territory, but it hasn't necessarily worked out well with them in the last two election cycles. Only two politicians that come to mind are Trump and Bernie Sanders, right? Biden's not going to enemy territory. Obama would barely even go on Bill Marr. And that's the guy who would agree with him. So we're questioning Ron DeSantis whether he should go into quote unquote enemy territory and not like he'd be coming on value tame and BB podcast enemy territory, full support

over here for the Santas. The question is playing it safe. Is that Biden played it safe? It's not full support for the Santas. No, I'm just saying it meaning for you, you're the Sanctus. I'll go with the Sanctus Hunter. But to me, you know what I am? I'm not a the Sanctus.

I'm not a Trump guy. I'm not I'm a guy that is showing strength to face four real enemies today that is not afraid to back down. And if you're gonna play this card now, then that means that's how you're gonna lead as a politician when you become a president. You're gonna be too overly strategic. Being too overly strategic means you may win,

but America doesn't win. Dude, you gotta get a black eye. Go get a couple black eyes. I'm sorry, the way you brawler is, this is not a, do you not going into a fight where it's like, okay, throw jabs and boom, okay, great, I won by points. This is not a winning by point situation today.

This is a brawl today. This is a make-eward against godified today. This is a trilogy of these guys that went to freaking Roberto Durán going up against. This is a war. You can't be effing around right now, playing too much strategy. I don't think this is the season to do it. The American people are sitting there. Everybody left center right, sitting there saying,

what the hell is going on with China? What the hell is going on with Russia? What the hell is going on with Russia? What the hell is going on with US? I'm afraid. We can't be like, so yes, so here's what I would, no, no, no, I think America's looking for a guy to come out and say, here's what we gotta be doing. Showing toughness, showing I'm not afraid.

Showing, you think, if you're afraid of interviewers, what the, what do you think these other guys are you gonna face? Those are not interviewers? Those are flatters that are gonna come and play games. I think Putin is an interviewer. You think she's an interviewer. What do you think those guys gonna be doing? An interviewer is one-one million of a strength of a freaking enemy you're gonna be facing. She's not an interviewer. He will dismantle America if you want to. So I think I think strength. Whoever's going to be able to present that

salute it more power. You're so correct. I mean, and I go back to Reagan, a lot of people weren't born, but go back and look at history. You know, Reagan, you know, all of Europe, all of Europe, done what those perishing missiles are. And he got, what was that? Mm-hmm. And he says, listen, I'm putting them in, and we can put them in cooperatively, or I can just put them on my own basis, because we had bases in Germany. We had Spangaller Air Force Base and true Germany, and he put them there.

And Reagan goes to Iceland to Reykjavik. Why did Gorbachev go to Reykjavik? Because he was scared to death of the perishing missiles and he believed Reagan had the will. And when they left Reykjavik, and remember the cocky Gorbachev says, what did you want me to say? And an annoyed Reagan turned to him and simply said,

you should have said yes. And we all know what happened with history. This is not a time for games. This is not a time to win elections through media perfection. You know, there was a whole, Robert Redford, a pretty cute little movie back in the 70s. The candidate.

The candidate. And what does he say after he wins? And he played TV perfect. What do we do now? What do we do now? You know, exactly. Is America is who you want? You want someone who's going to be perfect and give them all the way up to the end? Seriously. And then say, what do we do now? I'll tell you what you

do now. You have to, if you take, and by the way, no one seems to understand. I'll go back to it real quick. We're talking about this on China. You know why it's so significant on the one. You know why? Because it's not a floating currency on international currency markets. It gives China the control of the value at any given day. And as soon as you put that in there, you're giving them economic power. And when you go back, they've said for a long time, well, you know, Russia would be more stable economically

if they had a currency that was traded and respected on the world market. You know what people used to say? They do. It just has a picture of George Washington on it. Because it was the underground currency. If the underground currency of Russia was a US dollar. So we're going to put somebody there that won't even allow their currency to float with

the monetary markets. And they're going to determine the price of a gallon of gas. And cubic was it cubic feet of Vellan natural gas really that's what you want you want a perfect guy who's gonna now at win the election and say now what do we do sorry i'm not on that page you know i remember i was stationed over in Italy with airborne unit at the time uh... which is uh... which is yeah i was in which is it remember the bombing of the disco in Germany that they tied back to a yes, a Libyan terrorist and and what the ragged do. I mean, it was not any debate. What bam, they

bombed Libya and we were like, yeah, that's that's cool. Is that Operation Resta Kenyon? Yeah, yeah, it took us five days to shoot a balloon down. That's what I'm saying, but that's what you're right. And so you talk about we finished it's job. Yeah, floating over the Atlantic. And that's what people are looking for. And so, you know, I just jot down here, two quotes from Alexander the great.

Number one, he says, fortune favors the bold. So if there's a message that I hear that you want to get to Ron the Santa's fortune favors the bold. So if there's a message that I hear that you want to get to Ron DeSantis, fortune favors the bold. And the second thing that Alexander said that I would not fear an army of lions if they were led by sheep. But I would fear an army of sheep if they were a man. But it's powerful.

It's so powerful. And America is an army, I mean, it is an army of lions. I mean, we want to let, we want to get out there and and why hesitate? Let a rip, stop solving for perfection. Go get a couple black eyes. Let's go. Let's brawl.

This is a real fight. This is not a political diplomatic strategy, bullshit bullshit fight. I'm on a flight from L.A. from Burbank Airport to Vegas and I'm going to Vegas because I got a business meeting. All of a sudden I look to my right, a guy named Bill O'Reilly sitting there. I'm like, shit, what are you doing here?

So I'm taking a Burbank flight. Why are you going there? I'm doing the Dennis Miller thing. I don't know if you guys remember him and Dennis were doing that show. I had their tour. So since I got time with the SSO tell me what happened? He would Ramney and Obama.

He says, look, we called Ramney to come on the show because we felt he needed to come and present himself. And then we also called Obama because we thought Obama was gonna lose. And he says, when I called Obama's camp about getting on the show, Obama's camp set the following. He says, Bill, you're wrong.

It's done. It's done. Obama's winning. He says, why? He says because Ramni's camp made a massive mistake. What was the mistake? Romney's camp convinced Romney that he had to go win the single woman salad eating vote And he screwed up instead of pushing against Benghazi after the second debate. He was crushing them. Yes the moment he flipped he lost

Who the hell is in the ear of this man that could be a president? Go brawl. You're a fighter, Ron. You're not a guy that sits on the sidelines. Let's roll. By the way, this message here will probably eliminate the chance of sitting here, sitting here, because they're definitely not not going to have him come over here to this podcast. It's going to go to making Kelly. know if it go to PBD podcast show I'm okay with that if you're gonna go out to go roll this guy's a fighter He's a tough guy. You seem the way he handles the media every time like once so much and no no no no no We're not gonna do none but that's exactly what we need today. I'm not trying to be

Winning best friends here. I'm not trying to go and say can we be best friends? I don't need to be best friends with you don't need to be best friends with you. Don't need to be best friends with me, but dammit. Let's go see your fight. Cause you got it. You know, you bring up a great point because you remember those series of debates between Romney and Obama. The first one was out in Colorado. Absolutely. Just smoked a bomb. But Obama was a blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And then you're right. Someone got in his ear and, you know, you can't do that. You can't you got to be president You don't want to see stuff the guys. Yeah, you get and so by the time the last debate was right here in South Florida It was at Lynn University. I remember and it was foreign policy national security and that's when Obama came out and said you know

Russia is looking for their the Cold War strategy, you know, you know Obama he just obliterated Romney. Romney did not continue to go on the offense. And you had one of the worst foreign policy national security administrations. I mean, Russia initially went into Ukraine doing the Obama administration. They came in to Crimea. Crimea. They took the issue and what did Obama say? He said blankets in the Maris. If he had just stood up and said, you know, when I'm president, I'm not sending blankets and MREs. I'm sending bullets because I will not see,

you know, the incursion of a dictator into a sovereign country. Do you remember Obama sitting with Putin on an open mic and he leaned forward? No, a mevidev. He was sitting with mevidev. Mevidev, yes. And he leaned forward and it's an open mic saying,

you know, he's apologizing and says, I'll have more flexibility after the election. Absolutely, tell Vladimir. And it's like, what? What? I thought that was just a... So I wanna go to a couple other stories, but we can talk about this for hours,

but I got two other stories I wanna go to. The police shooting that took place, the tragic event, a video's were released. I wanna get your thoughts as somebody who's a vet. You've been on all sides. What's your thoughts are on this? You've also been a school teacher So you know what it is to be a teacher here in plantation So if you can play this clip on by the way just so everybody knows YouTube came out and says the graphic

Nashville body camera video can stay online Despite rules against violent content. So they want people to see this, they're okay with it. So YouTube, just so you know, we're following your guidelines, Rob play this clip for everybody. But again, brace for impact. If you're not good at watching things like this, I suggest you take a break from the clip, but we are going through it right now.

If we can get our internet to work, maybe refresh it one more time, Rob, typically when we do that, this works. And it's decisive. It's not gory It's decisive. Yeah, it actually makes our There you go. Go ahead Go downstairs go stairs, go stairs, go! Go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go shot fire shot fire shot fire move right right right push an LPBO push an LPBO go Move move Stop moving

Stop moving Stop moving One left, one left, suspect down, suspect down. I'm comfortable to see you back. Hey, hold the air. First of all, the disturbing video to watch when you see this, but this becomes realistically a playbook for all the other units nationwide to look at and see are we training to be able to do some like this? So what's your reaction when you see this? Well, I will tell you right now I've got some dear friends and law enforcement down here and I was talking with them last night

This is like you say it's going all over the nation because this was text book take down 12 minutes from you know them getting an emergency to the neutralizing of the threat and I live in Texas, this is embarrassing for the folks that were youvaldy, because that's what should have happened instead of allowing someone to have free reign. So hats off to those two officers that took control of the situation,

did not sit around and wait for anyone to come in and say, I'm the commander, I'm gonna tell you what to do. No, you moved to the sound of the guns. That's what you taught in the military, and that's what they should be doing, and that's the training. But here's the real thing that we need to come to understand.

We're looking at a question that we better answer real quick. First and foremost, I would say that there is gonna be more security and protection at the final four this weekend than are in our schools. So why don't we do what is necessary in protecting our schools? We got Army ROTC, they are ROTC people that are out there. We got veterans that would be happy to go out

and provide security. The fact that that person was able to shoot out the entry point, the gun, the windows, and nobody was there to confront them at that point right there. Someone should have been there on that campus to do that. So that's the first thing. But gender dysphoria is a mental condition.

And this individual suffer from gender dysphoria. And I'm not saying this myself. This is the American Psychiatric Association Sanis. We know that this person went to five different gun stores and got seven weapons. Now each time they went to the gun store, they had to fill out a form, 4473, which is your background check form. One of the questions on 4473 asks you about mental illness and depression. And we know that gender dysphoria has two symptoms, depression and anxiety. So a person that is suffering from a mental condition

should not be able to go out and get weapons. Now that's the thing that no one wants to talk. I know Randy Weingaard is talking about taking away my gun as a legal law, but that's not the end. Number one, better security for our schools. Because that shows where our priorities are. We'll secure a sports venue, but obviously we're not securing our schools. The second thing is, we gotta get serious about these background check forms.

And in Texas and Southern and Springs, the reason why that shooting happened, the Air Force forgot to upload that shooter's dishonorable discharge. And the fact that he was guilty of a domestic abuse, both questions on the 4473, that would have kept him from being of guns. And you've already texted the shooter there live with his grandparents. His grandfather was a felon. Felons are not supposed to number one ever be able to possess firearms or be in a residence with firearms. When he put down the address of his grandfather on that 4473 form, the red flag should have popped

up. That's where we got issues not Not coming in and taking away your weapons, taking away my weapons and disarming me, which is what all totalitarian leftists, regimes want to do because then you can impart your will upon people. But we got to do better protecting our kids and we got to put some teeth behind these background check forms. None of this universal background check stuff,

but just to make sure that the next system teeth behind these background check forms. None of this universal background check stuff, but just to make sure that the next system is able to do what it's supposed to do. But people that are suffering from mental condition should not be in our clothes on this thing. Last week Friday or Saturday, whatever, the transgender community there in Nashville put out a national, they wanted a day of vengeance. You can Google it, find a national they wanted a day of vengeance You can google it find it. They wanted a day of vengeance one of the places that they named was Nashville Tennessee Now the fact that someone asked Merrick Garland are you gonna classify this as a hate crime? He didn't ask what this is a hate crime wow Trans day of vengeance right because less than a month ago

Tennessee the government came out and they were the first they passed the legislators absolutely protecting children saying that we're not going to have these gender mutilation you know surgeries or act green events in public and puberty blockers in hormonal therapies you know for our children and this is what happens in response you call out the day of vengeance no so you said you're trying to classify this as a potential hate crime. It's not a potential hate crime. There's only one reason why this person was at that school. I mean, they're 28. Why are you gonna go and shoot nine year olds?

So, and that's not what the meeting wants to talk about. Yeah, why is there not more security police officers, military, in front of schools? I mean, to me, this is insane. Like, we're watching this video, right? And the whole time I'm watching it, he's puffing up. And I'm thinking, this is at an elementary school. This is what's happening at a school. And my whole thing is, how can we stop this from

happening again and Denver and Denver Colorado. You just had a 17 or 18 year old just shot two school administrators in Denver, Colorado. This kid was known to be violent. But guess what the school board there in Denver, Colorado had just voted for? Eliminate and removing all school resource officers. And so two school administrators got shot right here at Marjorie Stolman Douglas. Everybody knew about Nicholas Cruz. Nicholas Cruz had 20 to 22 callouts to his residents. Okay.

It was the Obama administration, Arnie Duncan, who was the Secretary of Education, Robert Ronson down here. They didn't want to bring up any charges or whatever against black and brown students because they felt that that was racist. And the presence of security is hurtful to certain groups because you're presupposing guilt. So we're going to pull back. Yeah. We have systems out there and we just need to use it. You brought

up a couple of good points. We can debate these last couple points at length. But one of them is not to debate. The systems exist. If I, if I have a drunk driving condition, a drunk driving conviction in Maine and four months later, I go to Texas, relocate and go to get a Texas driver's license. They're going to tell me, you're under suspension. You haven't finished out a suspension. Have we have a suspension here in Maine? You get two months to go.

Here's your government ID card with the red stripe on it. You can get your driver's license when you're done. It says, and if I try to bypass that, and I go and present my main driver's license and I try to get a job driving a school bus or a city bus, the systems are all in there to fly. I get same thing for pilots. So we have systems out there that work very well,

state the state that protect us and hold back. So why isn't it working well exactly what you're talking about? Excuse me, you're buying this firearm, but this address just came back. This is an ineligible address. Yeah. And it says, why? Well, maybe they won't know that, okay, your uncle is a felon, but you're at an ineligible address, dude.

And that's all you try. Why are you trying? Yeah, yeah, why? You're denied. Yeah, you're denied. That's it, they don't tell you what, you're denied. So all of these things are happening because there's a failure in the system. There's not a failure in, you know, any of us here who go out and do the right things,

we follow the laws. Bad people don't follow the laws. Did you see the congressman getting emotional yesterday saying, ask them, what Republicans will do? Did you see that yesterday or no? Okay. I want to show you this clip, if I can find it. Rob, if you can look for it, this one viral yesterday.

Is this the big guy in the tensor? He is coming out and he said, ask him, what are they gonna do about it? What are they gonna do about, ask Republicans about what they're gonna do about guns? That's what you need to ask him. Man, it was a very emotional, rally cry about guns. I wish I had the clip to show it to you.

But this is an opportunity people are using to blame Republicans, not wanting to do anything about this, and not wanting to have a conversation. Obviously, you saw here, you briefly commented about what Randy Waiigarton said about the fact that we need to do, you know, confiscate guns similar to what Australian New Zealand did. Have the courage to do what they did. Nikki Haley, on the other hand, says, you know, treating shooting as only a gun issues the lazy way out after the Nashville. She's right.

And then, you know, Tim Birchett says revival, not Congress is needed after Nashville school shooting. So there's three different perspectives here but democrats are saying this is republicans fault how come you're not doing anything about it uh... how what are the likely it i asked this question on to them curious in what what your concern is with this what's the likely it of they're going to be able to succeed to come from skate guns not not change maybe getting stricter background checks

and all that's kind of stuff how successful do you think they can be to be able to take guns away from them? Well, the thing is that it's not about actually confiscating a gun. It's trying to undermine the means by which you can have the weapon. So we're going to go out and tax you for every bullet, this in a case of bullets. And we're going to make it so expensive that you have ammunition, that you just turn a handgun and just into a hammer. Or we're gonna come out all of a sudden,

ATF just recently did this, and we're gonna say that if you put an accessory on a quote unquote, you know, semi-automatic pistol, now you have turned into a short barrel rifle, although the accessory doesn't change anything about the caliber or the capability. But now- Or a multiple velocity.

Or multiple velocity, but now all of a sudden it has to be regulated. And by the way, if you don't turn it in and tell us about it, you are now felon. So that's what they're trying to do, is they're trying to criminalize the ownership of weapons or they're trying to undermine your ability to effectively use a weapon.

And it's the same with these red flag laws. Sounds good, but there were a bunch of red flags on Nicholas Cruz and no one did anything about. So now red flags can become a political hammer whereby you go after someone and you don't know who accused you. And I believe it was in October 2016, 2017, gentlemen in Ferndale, Gary, Gary J. Woods, I believe his name, Ferndale, Maryland, he comes to the, to the door early in the morning, like four, five in the morning, police are banging on the door.

What, if you banging on my door four, five in the morning, I'm bringing my gun because I don't know who you are. He was shot and killed. The police were there to serve a red flag, noticed on him. But why are you going to do that at four or five in the morning? And to this day, we don't know who the police officer were that shot Gary. And we furthermore, we don't know who initiated the red flag.

But the guys did. Ferndale, Maryland. I forget the county up there. But they will never be able to flat out say, we're taking away your guns first of that is a it's a constitution right did you have but they're not not at all something you're concerned about uh... i am concerned about them using the the weaponization of the a t f

and so certain of the agencies to try to undermine your billy and criminalize your ability to have certain far so talking about weaponization jim jordan just came out and demands iris explain unannounced visit to mat thai abys home this is a national review story Jim Jordan sent a letter to treasurer secretary Janet the Ellen iris commissioner daniel were full asking for an explanation as to why federal agents were sent to mat thai abys house on the same day he appeared before the select subcommittee on the weaponization of the federal government which was chaired by Jordan

thai be informed Jordan that the iris instructed him to contact the agency four appeared before the select subcommittee on the weaponization of the federal government, which was chaired by Jordan. Taibe informed Jordan that the IRS instructed him to contact the agency four days later, and he was told about his 2018 and 2021 tax filings were requested due to concerns over identity theft. Taibe shared his 2018 tax emissions with the select committee, which showed no problems was registered with the tax return for more than four and a half years. Taibe shared a new information revealing Twitter's censorship's industrial complex which showed the social media's platform worked

with federal agencies and NGOs to censor or downplay. Post, they found objectinable. Now, objectionable. How much is just ironic, coincidental? How much of this we think was intentional? It's totally intentional. Everything that we have happening in this government right now is purposeful and intentional. That's my big concern is the

censorship issue. That's my big concern about going after people and trying to instill that fear and weaponizing federal government agencies. They can do it better if you're disarmed, but why don't you just send an email? I mean ask a guy about, you know, whatever this identity issues, why are you showing up at his house, the day the he's in Washington DC? You're sending a message. I mean, that's what the mafia does.

Okay, that's what gangs do. They send a message. That's what the clan used to do, burning crosses, you know, in the front yard. So this government that we have right now, Patrick, this is the thing that scares me right now, Patrick, this is the thing that scares me the most. It reminds me of the East German Stasi police, where all of a sudden, if you're a pro-life activist and advocate, you end up in jail. If you're

James Revenge that is going out and fire bombing, you know, pro-life pregnancy centers and attacking churches and vandalizing churches, nothing happens to you. If you're just a person that's walking through the capital on January 6th, you're a felon, you're in jail. If you're in Tifa that shows up and you shoot at police officers and burn down government buildings and everything, nothing happens to you. As a matter of fact, we're gonna raise money

to help you to make the bail. So there's a two tiered system of justice that is going on here. And again, it comes back. That's what the left does to its opposition. The left does not want opposition. They want to instill, you talk about fear, they want to instill fear in you that says,

if you stand up to us, we're gonna get you. 87,000 new IRS agents, What do you think that means? I mean, a lot more people coming around and paying visits to folks. And Matt Taibi is no conservative. He's no MAGA guy whatsoever. But you know what, more libertarian actually, left leaning liberal.

They made in one now. Yeah, of course, that's what's gonna happen. Yeah, yeah. And by the way, we need more investigative journalists, so shout out to Matt Taibi for doing a hard work that it does. Let's talk about a place that maybe would need to bring that table in to train them. New York Times turns on Fauci,

essay slams reaction during COVID. This story just came out, let me go to a daily mail story, page 14. Here we go. So the New York Times published an opinion piece, Criticizing Dr. Anthony Fauci's approach to information sharing the COVID-19 pandemic, the article, primarily focused on Fauci's initial reaction, ref-e-affrutation of the COVID lab leak theory and his association with the British zoologist Peter Daizak, the author Megan Stack wrote

that Fauci and Daizak could have qualified their statement to expose Americans to more uh... dayzac the author maegan stack wrote that fouchy and they said could have qualified their statement to expose americans to more of the full picture regarding the one institute of our all of the bad virus research but they did not stack also condemned fouchy for initially lying about the effectiveness of masks and frequently moving the goal post on when it would be safe to live lockdowns measures this is like a this is more of a babelon B story than a New York Times stack argued that Fauci's dishonesty

and promotion of disinformation contributed to the problem of censorship and, are you in suppression of certain ideas? She concluded that attempting to clean up this information by suppressing this course creates its own dangers and can lead to a society where nobody really believes anything. No shit, Sherlock. So Alan, thoughts on the story. You know, we had this thing in, in, in, uh, aerosol units called cut sling load, you know,

what I'm talking about. They just cut sling load on Fauci. Fauci's done, uh, and they're going to distance themselves. And, and, and, and why? What is that sling load for? I mean, you like, what they did to Pomo, they're about to do to Fauci. Yeah. You know, you come in with a helicopter,

and you pick up like a Humvee or anything with the sling, attach it, well, when you're ready to drop it, you cut sling load. And that's what they've done. They meaning the helicopter cannot carry the helicopter. Just cut it, we're gonna move. Just cut it, they're moving on from back. They've got it.

But isn't it a little ironic this is after the fact, he's already retired, he's done. He's the highest paid employee in the government. They are getting ready for 2024. Why do you think the governor Gretchen Whitmer all the sun comes out says you know Michigan yeah I you know I probably went too far whoops. I'm sorry if I ruined your business I ruined your life. Why they're getting ready to set themselves up for 2024. They don't want this to be a conversation because they know that the American people have STM short-term memory.

And so Fauci's gonna get hit with a lot of class action lawsuits. It's coming. And so New York Times and everybody, they're separating themselves. They don't want anybody to come back and say that the New York Times were part of this. They don't wanna be part of lawsuits

saying that they promote... So you're basically saying they're putting hit pieces out there saying, Hey, we did our part. It might have been three years too late. However, we did write some hit pieces on our issue. We called that the Pontius pilot. Uh huh. I'm washing my hands. Yeah. Uh, so if I'm Fauci, I'm, I should be worried because now I'm, I'm being told I'm on my own. They've, they've, they've cut bait on me. Well, I'm sure a I'm on my own. They've cut bait on me. Well, I'm sure a lot of people are sympathizing for this happening to Fauci, as well as the sympathy they have for a World Health Organization

which recently came out and said, WHO, World Health Organization says healthy kids and teens don't need COVID vaccinations. I'm telling you, the World Health Organization has updated its guidance on COVID-19 vaccines, recommending that healthy children adolescents may not need to receive the shot. The who considers vaccinating healthy young people to be a low priority as a public health impact is, you are so dark, World Health. It's much lower than that of traditional essential vaccines for childrens like measles, measles, and polio.

WHO also called for urgent efforts to catch up on routine vaccinations missing during the pandemic and warrant a rise in vaccine, preventable diseases like measles, the CDC reported a high record high of almost 40 million children missing. Their measles vaccines in 2021, misinformation. Why do you think? I wonder why you're missing 40 million. Misinformation linked to COVID vaccines has also led to parents rejecting normal childhood shots despite immunizations, being the most effective way to protect children from measles. This is a daily mail story.

You know, it's funny, it's almost like we played a record and then we stopped and then we started playing a record backwards, I'll change. Because WHO was like, we think it's now acceptable for 16 year olds. Oh, we think it's now acceptable for 12 year olds. Actually, we think that to the states that will mandate it, if their governors are smart, we can go to 10 year olds. Remember that?

We can't go down. We think eight year olds would be fine. We kept going down. Now the WHO said, no, I don't think you need the 8, 10, 12, 16s or 18s. It's like we're going backwards. They don't need it. Remember that? We went down the ages.

Now we go back up the ages. There's no legitimacy here. Truth is powerful. And they are now understanding that how they hoodwinked, not just the United States, American, entire world is coming to fruition, is coming back against them. And of course, why would you trust the WHO? I mean, China, almost the WHO. You know who, this favors one guy.

This only favors one guy. Yeah. It favors the guy that is campaign for 2024 should be, I told you so. That's one guy. And he's gonna come out one by one. He just needs to have one by one stories. Russian collusion number one. COVID vaccine for kids number two.

Shutting down number three. School number four. You know, all of these things, he's just needs to go one by one by one story and both him and the Santas can use that I told you so campaign because the Santas can say I told you what I did in the state of Florida. Trump can do the other side. The left has to apologize. Did you see how the Biden two days ago said Republicans are the reason behind the fentanyl issue because they're not taking a border seriously. Did you see that? Did you see that in a couple days ago?

Who's going to fall for that? To say something like that. I mean, this is the part where you have to be so, you're willing to go to such levels to gaslight people, you're officially thinking the voters are dumb. That's what you think. Well, they believe in the, and hopefully this won't get you in trouble down here,

but the minister of propaganda for the Germans, Goebbels, who said, if you repeat a lot often enough, eventually people will take it for truth. And that's what they're going to continue to do look You just got to go down to the board and you just got to understand this and look at the numbers This is all because of one single person one single administration purposeful and intentional the fact that we have close to two million People in the United States of America come across that border. We have no idea where they are that's scary. And again, coming back to having someone that is strong, all of those folks that got released

out of prison in Afghanistan, they want some payback. And the cartels will help anybody get into the United States of America as long as they pay them the money. And something eventually is going to go kaboom in the United States of America, because there are people that come across, they don't mean as good. Last story before we wrap up, Tom, I'm going to go to you with this one, this is an FTX story. FTX founder, Sandbank been free charge, with bribe in Chinese officials. This is a Wall Street Journal story. He has been accused of prosecutors of conspiring to bribe Chinese

government officials to reign access to over billion dollars in frozen cryptocurrency, which violated the US anti-corruption law. Bankman freed authorized the payment of at least $40 million in cryptocurrency to one or more of Chinese government officials after months of failed attempts to regain control of the accounts according to the indictment. Bankman freed directed alameda employees to pay the bribe any authorized an additional payment of ten tens of millions of dollars to complete the bribe alameda use the unfrozen crypto to fund additional trades as bankman freed

uh... freed's direction tom is anybody now surprised how all of those Democrat congressmen and senators were dead silent when this guy got arrested and when this thing went down. Do you remember the pictures of him walking across the floor, Congress and Maxine Waters standing up on a chair or a little diast there and blowing him kisses, literally blowing him kisses. If that's not scary enough, pull that up that out of blind, anybody can see that.

And you look at what's going on, and then they were all silent. And this guy was a bribery machine. This was a Ponzi scheme, and that he knew it was going on, and he was covering themselves with donations and bribes. I don't know anybody that surprised, and so why is everybody surprised that the only guy

that was interrupted at the microphone was the prosecutor on this. None of the politicians, if you notice how quiet they were, it's because I need to be on vacation. All of them. And that's Maxine Waters when she was the chairperson, chairman of the House Financial Service Creed.

Chairman of the House Financial Services Committee. That tells you everything. Who was the number one contributor to the Democrat Party after George Soros? It was after you. After you asked, right? It tells you a lot. Sam Bankman, free and joy. Yeah.

Anyways, great show today. We cover a lot of stories. Alan, thank you so much for coming out. Well, thank you for service cover a lot of stories. Alan. Thank you so much for coming out. Well, thanks for the service. A lot of you to come back down here to home. And I want everyone to know how special it was to have been a member of Congress representing this district right where you are sitting. That means a lot. And that's a testimony to the exceptionalism of this country. The decaying can come from where I came from and rise up to be a member of the United

States. Born in a black, only hospital at Atlanta, Georgia in 1961. Crazy. Where we've come in this country. And think about this, the year that I was born, blacks could not go on Fort Lauderdale Beach. But 50 years later, I'm sworn in as the member of Congress that represents the love of New York Beach.

Great country. Wow. They got to love that. That's a great story. So what projects are you working on? Anything you're working on for the audience. Yeah, I'm the executive director of the American Constitutional Rights Union,

dacru.org. It's a 27 year old organization. It's kind of meant to be the counterbalance to the ACLU. A lot of things we work on. First amendment, second amendment, issues as well as election integrity issues. I have my own podcast.

So tuning in guys, the steadfast and loyal, if you'd like. And one of the things I just did was a monologue on the shooting there in Nashville and we just interviewed Sebastian Gorka and also Dinesh D'Souza on Tuesday before I flew down here. So that's it. I love it.

We're gonna put the link to your podcast as well as the website here Rob. So the audience can go find it. Once again, thanks for coming out. This was fantastic. Thanks, Pat. Thank you, Al. Thank you. Take care, guys. Bye-bye.