PBD Podcast - Andrew Schulz @OfficialFlagrant | PBD Podcast | Ep. 211

Episode Date: December 2, 2022

In this hilarious episode, Patrick Bet-David is joined by Andrew Schulz and Adam Sosnick, to talk about everything from politics and the economy to Jake Paul and the Matrix. TOPICS SchulzOn Disney Schulz On Tiktok Schulz On Gender Equality  Reaction to Kanye West's Interview with Alex Jones Schulz On The Matrix Reaction to Jerry Jones controversial pro-segregation picture Reaction to the potential fight between Andrew Tate and Jake Paul Why comedians have longer leashes to say what they want  Schulz On his special Schulz On the differences between Biden and Trump Five reasons why Trump won in 2016 Will Ron DeSantis beat Donald Trump in the next election? FaceTime or Ask Patrick any questions on https://minnect.com/ Want to get clear on your next 5 business moves? https://valuetainment.com/academy/ PBD Podcast Episode 211.  Text: PODCAST to 310.340.1132 to get added to the distribution list Patrick Bet-David is the founder and CEO of Valuetainment Media. He is the author of the #1 Wall Street Journal bestseller Your Next Five Moves (Simon & Schuster) and a father of 2 boys and 2 girls. He currently resides in Ft. Lauderdale, Florida. --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/pbdpodcast/support

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Okay, so folks, today's guest is a special one. We brought him here from Wall Street Big Financial Analyst, Head Fund Manager, Experts. We're going to talk a lot about ETFs, credit swaps, stocks, bonds, mutual funds, all of that. What's that easy thing? What's the one and only Andrew, show and the house. Yes, I'm here, baby. How you feeling? Yo, thanks for having me.

Thanks for coming out. For sure, for sure. The funniest hell, man. Thank you, man. I'm enjoying your content. Very, very impressive. Yeah, I can literally sit there and I watch him like,

this guy is a ridiculous communicator. Oh, okay. Maybe one of the best storytellers out there, man. Dude, that's so funny, because I was saying that about you. The only difference is that. Meet talent stories. No, maybe one of the best storytellers out there, man. Dude, that's so funny because I was saying that about you. The only difference is that I mean that way. Like the way that you communicate is through story. It's like if you look at great, I want to compare you to politicians,

but if you look at the most effective politicians, they answer every question with a story. Yeah. And it's a bad, it's like biblical, you know, it's like, why would I tell you what it is when I can show you? So you're on it. I appreciate that so these guys know who you are during the comedy space I know you from a fan stand point. Okay. They know you from a comedic standpoint I'm saying okay. How did you get started tell your story how you got started? Okay, so I'm born and raised in New York Yeah, I was I surfed when I was a kid randomly. I was born and raised Manhattan, but I liked surfing and

So I was like all right for college. I'm gonna go to school where I could surf. So I went to school UC Santa Barbara. Oh wow and My fifth year in college there. I was managing a restaurant that had a comedy night randomly and they asked me if I want to Trying to always loved comedy, but I never was like, I'm gonna go do that. I always thought it was a weird thing to go. I'm gonna go on stage and talk in front of people even though I admired it so much.

So the fact that somebody kind of asked me, I was like, okay, maybe this is like the excuse I need and I tried and I fucking loved it and I came back and I just never, never looked back. Prior to that, nothing. Never ever. Never wrote a joke. So now in school,

if I'm in high school with you, 10th grade, 11th grade, who were you? Yeah, I was trying to make everybody. Never ever. Never wrote a joke. So now in school, if I'm on high school, with your 10th grade, 11th grade, who were you? Yeah, I was trying to make everybody laugh. Okay. I was trying to get attention for sure, and I was busing balls, and I always enjoy busing balls, and I love comedy.

I mean, like, I got hustled into the, into those fucking, into the tapes, to the Russell Simmons Dev comedy jam. Didn't you, dear? Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, Did you did a little bit later? I did it when I was the different host. Not Mark. The interview was on. I mean, didn't know what junior did it on the same year. That's right.

But so when we were kids, he had this great, like, basically, I got my dad to sign me up and it was like a monthly thing, but they gave you a new tape every single month, right? And so I didn't even know, is that? I just thought we were getting one. They just kept coming in. My dad was like, what the fuck is it? So we just had this stack of just absolutely horrendous offensive jokes that we found hilarious. But the same time, Def Kamejian was like just taking over. Yeah. Like when you did that, how much how much times you have? Oh, how much time? Yeah. What do you mean on the steak? Oh, they were like,

dudes, 10 minutes. They cut it to like a five minutes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was cut to, why is that? Is that like a model? Was that a structure? Did they put a lot of guys on or? I think it was probably better. It was like, let's just take the best five. Take the best five.

And what a lot of these dudes didn't even have time. A lot of these guys had, it takes time to put together like an hour of material where you could like tour, you know. That's a big thing in the comedy world. The time you get, so you start with two minutes. You get five, maybe you get 10. When you can get to 20, half hour, like,

people, I'm working on my hour, I'm working on my hour, you know what that's like. And you need an hour to tour. You know, like the way that we make money is by going on the road. Now we have podcasts and all these other things. But before that, it was like, you know, you're like a stripper. Like, it's just, I got this weekend in Milwaukee

and I need to make that money and they're gonna pay me $1,500 or $2,000. And it sucks about those, Andrew, because you know this, when it ain't yours and you have no hands on, you know, like the Netflix and all these people. Yeah. Over there, you do what you leave. There's a room of people that are picking your shit for you. You're like, and yo, can I edit my, can I be in the room to edit? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I know what's funny, y'all, you know, you're just an editor, not talking to the board editors, but that's the most vulnerable thing, man. And that's the trick know what's funny, y'all. You're just an editor, not talking to the board. I know what's funny, y'all. You're just an editor, not talking to the board. That's the most vulnerable thing, man. And that's the trickiest thing when you're building a business. It's like, maybe I would say this. I think that's the biggest issue with Hollywood right now is like, the people who come up with the ideas for the movies are so far away from the execution of the movie.

Wow. And if you look at the films that actually work, it's usually like writer directors. Yep. Right. They see the whole thing through. Like even not even writer director, like you look at a guy like Tom Cruise. Tom Cruise is like the only actor that gets final edit. So that means you can't even put a scene in unless he says okay. That's badass. That's some great.

And that's why every mission impossible. Right. He made nine. How many mission parts? I think the mission's possible. Right. possible, right? Yeah. He made nine, how many mission parts? And I think the mission's possible. Right? Everyone he wins.

Mission accomplished. It's mission accomplished, but we still watching it. And everyone, he got to pretend like he's not going to do it. We believe in every single time. He's going to happen this time. So, so cruises St. Status, right? So you would call them like a St. Status guy that he gets to do whatever he wants to do

Who's me who's St status in your world right now comedy who's St status? I mean shipella's one Dave guy who else is there St status and comedy? Joe Rogan do whatever you want Dave can do it every want Joe bill bill I think Bill burger Bill burgers say what other hell he wants I mean Louis went through a ship. I mean Louis bro I would still go and put money to see somebody like him and I would put money

to see Bill, Louis to get all these guys. Would you put Ricky Jervais? That's a, Ricky's up there for the whole year. I think what Louis is, and Louis will say, like, you know, I think he even said it, like they're probably not gonna make a movie with him for a while. Yeah. Like, Louis's gonna need to make his own hit

and then Hollywood will go, okay. Welcome him back. Yeah, yeah. Which is, I mean, that's business. That's the weird thing about it, like, I don't know. Like the more I, when you don't have any success, everything feels like it's an organized attack, right? And then when you start to have a little bit of success,

you understand like how business works. It's a lot of people just trying to not lose their job. Yeah. You know, so like, before I was like, oh, Hollywood's trying to put all these weird ideologies and movies and convince everybody to beat its way. And it's not, it's just some guy who doesn't want to lose his job.

So he hears your edgy joke and he's just like, I could get fired, my kids are in private school. I just bought this house, I can't afford. All right, cut that fucking joke. Yeah. And scared money don't make money, which is why a lot of those things flop, but at the same time, I have empathy for people

who they don't love the fucking movie. They love their kids and shit. They want their kids to go to school. So you're not into the whole Disney, what they're doing, you know, the woke stuff that Disney going through. What they do, hasn't Disney always been woke? I mean, my favorite Disney movie when I was a kid

was about like a Middle Eastern dude. Which was a lot of what you want to talk about. I even know what he was. I thought Aladdin was white. Some brown hair. I had no fucking food. Magic I even know there was white people in.

There was one white. It was like R.L. was like a fish and white. Yeah. Mermaid. She was white. And white people the best swimmers. Like that makes sense. like a fish and white. Yeah. Mermaid. She was white. And white people are best swimmers. Like that makes sense. Like they're not gonna be, you know what I mean?

I mean, I'm not gonna jack that one. Yeah, so it's like, I always thought it was diverse. I don't know why everybody's making a big deal with that. So you're saying Disney's been woke for a while. I wouldn't even call it woke. I think it's woke when you like virtue's signal about it. Like nobody, when fucking Aladdin came out, nobody was going, oh, here they go,

trying to capitulate to the Middle Eastern people. You know, like giving them an opportunity. I swear to God being a kid, I didn't know that they weren't white. I mean, not a problem. I don't think you guys, did you even, did you put a tune together? And I'm Middle Eastern. I wasn't like, yeah, those sandals are dope.

Like I didn't, I had no idea. I knew it was Middle Eastern. Yeah, but yeah, it wasn't a problem until you get older and where they separate everybody by this and race and this. And yeah, that's why. So what's happened then? Have we become softer and more sensitive?

Because, you know, there's a whole camp that talks about what Disney's doing, right? Like, their last two movies flopped. Yeah. This stranger world, whatever the movie was called $180 million opening weekend 20 they're sending gonna lose a hundred million then the other one they did is which one is What do you call it with toy story what's There's a name Buzz Lightyear that one flop that's back to back flop and the seal gets fired

They lose their tax that is here on Florida So the Santas goes back with them. I grew set a couple comments the other day about the Santas and You know, it's it's a very interesting place parents some parents are not comfortable with Disney the brands change a little bit But you know they've had criticism for a while on what they've done. Yeah, yeah, I think Yeah, I think it's something that you consider. It's absolutely something these brands are considering, right? You're a billion dollar company.

You're gonna make these considerations. But at the same time, like they did that thing, I think Disney did in Conto. Yeah. Was that Disney? That fucking crushed. Killed it. And that's like a Venezuelan story or something like that.

Not exactly sure. So like, I don't know. That's an interesting one. And it's weird. And like you said, from us growing up, we used to watch what they would never make today. Tom and Jerry, Roadrunner and dude, they were trying to kill each other. Like you feel me? Like the coyotes whole life was trying to kill this. Never act me a, never act me, nothing ever worked. And Tom and Jerry, this cat was trying to eat this thing and was the worst cat ever. And the owner was a black chick because you knew it. Because they shot, no, stop, what you doing?

That was the most blatantly, like, you knew she, they never even showed who she was. She was a black chick. And that was just a stereotype black chick that they put in. I don't know. I'm just, I'm like like Disney, you can't fuck with the mouse, man. Disney is just, Disney's so smart. Like people think it's a competition, but it's not like, you'll spend, you got kids. You have four kids, right?

Yeah. So like, you have kid, no, you don't fuck boy. I'm not gonna lie. It's from a form of fuck boy. It's like, no, he's not a, oh, I'm from a form. I don't know about fuckery. I can tell, this guy is out in these streets. I'm informed. I'm informed. I know about the fuck. I really like you. I can tell.

He's out in these streams. He's announced these rivers, whatever the place. You got him and hide it anymore. I was at a retirement community last night. I came home before we saw a recording. He's talking about girls. We both know. Twins.

Come on. Let me sit down. Get comfy. We're talking about family values here. Disney and your shops. Yeah. This is where you want to go. Let me weigh on the Disney. So let me talk about the family.

This is what I knew. It was going to be rough for Netflix when Disney got in the game. It's because like, have you ever been to Disney World? Okay, how much money you probably spend when you go to Disney World? Thousand bucks. At least thousand. Or at least thousand. I mean, I got the hotel.

Say, couple thousand dollars. Oh, you're talking hotel and everything together. Every weekend. Four, five thousand dollars. At least four. Five thousand dollars. I think I mean, what? That's not the hotel. Say, couple thousand dollars. Oh, you're talking hotel and everything together. Every weekend. Yeah. For $5,000. At least for $5,000. Yeah. How much money will you spend on your Netflix subscription

over your whole life? Oh, great question. That's a good question. Probably less than that. A thousand maybe. Yeah. And you got six different people using the same one. Like, so there's no way Netflix is gonna be able

to compete long term with a brand like Disney, unless they start doing these like live experience and things and they try, they're doing like stranger things live. Like you gotta get people out, so that has to be other streams of revenue. Like, Disney's in everything. So even if they're not making money off the movies,

they got money coming in from Disney World Paris and they got the merch lines. It's like, it's so hard to compete with them because they can lose or get a different one. Not yet. Try it. Okay. It's a, so you're going to want to raise your kids a certain way and

you're not going to want anybody to have influence over your kids that you don't want them to have influence up until a certain point. You know what I'm saying? I got, I got to tell you. At at some point you're going to be like, I'm okay if he's going to hang out with this uncle, but I got to tell you some. I was messaging my wife and I was because I was you know, I like to listen to you guys stuff before I come on talk to just like anybody. And I was listening to something you were talking about like living close to you created your life around where you live. Yeah.

You're like, yeah, I bought this building, this mile away, and the school is a point two miles, and everything's closed. And I messaged my wife, and she doesn't know that I'm like, listen to this shit, and I'm like, oh, that's far from about to drop. I'm not gonna drop that shit on it. And I'm looking for the message,

like I go, I want the studio to be close to where we live. Everything needs to be close. Restaurant's close. We need to be too close. Everything, right? And she starts to kind of like argue, like, if you build your studio, and then it might be a little, like, listen, if you want to maximize your life with your partner and your children,

you have to keep all that close, okay? Hour's traveling is wasted time with family. Yeah. Just yes, close neighbor, but you know, in LA, everything. Everything isn't close. I go schoolwork on social life close. This close I can't an hour each way is two hours away from my kid. Do you know how you can change a kid's life with two hours a day? What's the reaction? Go see you.

Andrew I agree. I go honestly, I'm just a little shout out to BB. I was like, no, it's fine. I was like, no, it's fine. I was like, no, it's fine. I was like, no, it's fine. I was like, no, it's fine. I was like, no, it's fine. I was like, no, it's fine.

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I was like, no, it's fine. I was like, no, it's fine. I was like, no, it's fine. I was like, no, it's fine. I was like, no, it's fine. I was like, no, thing you're going to be like, listen, don't talk to that guy. Be careful with this because they're still like can make up their minds. They're still a little bit more flexible on ideas. And then eventually, like, listen, you got to do whatever you got to. I don't have control over you anymore.

Just like us, at one point, no matter what mom, that said, we have to go screw up. We have to make our own mistakes. And then you're hoping you've teach touched your kid enough to process issues independently, and then they're off to the races. If they're turned on by some Disney cartoon or this movie or that movie, that's up to them. But so then, as the part where some people are uncomfortable with Disney right now.

Yeah, you feel like as a parent, a little bit uncomfortable with it. I feel it's my job to raise them until a point that they can decide for themselves up until that point. I talked to Rogen about this a little bit because I'll let him not big man the shitty thing, the annoying thing about getting money is there's less to complain about. Like when I didn't have money, I was like affected by every issue. We got a tall, we got to fix this, change.

And then I got some money and I was like, man, like the Almond Geary's a great place to hang out for a week. I was like, do I really want to read this whole article about abortion or do I want to go to Utah and look at Malin? That's way better, you know? And then Rogan was like, when you have kids, it just brings you right back in.

I go, why he goes, he goes, because now everything is affecting the way they see the world. And your kid is gonna say something to you, and it's gonna fucking rile you up. I got a friend of mine who lives up in Toronto, and his kid, he got two kids, and he was giving cookies.

He gave two cookies to his baby girl, and then one cookie to his son, and his son goes he got two kids and he was giving cookies. He gave two cookies to his baby girl and then one cookie to his son and his son goes, his son goes, he goes, he goes, hey, I want two cookies. And he goes, why? He goes, because fair and equal. He goes, what did you just say? He goes, because life is fair and equal.

And he literally called his wife, he goes, we're moving back to him. And you go, yeah. There you go. There you go. There you go. Listen. That's hilarious. Whatever you give a lot of time to,

you're gonna be more protective of. You know, that's, you know, like comedy. What do you guys very much, what's a sensitive side of your world than comedy? Somebody uses your joke. Somebody steals your joke. Yeah, yeah. Somebody steals your joke. Like, you know, in your world,

that is like, I had Carlos. I was meant to see, exactly. Three years ago, I don't know what it was. Four years ago, three years ago. He stole Pat's wallet. He stole Pat's wallet. He just takes it out. We were having a conversation and, you know,

it's like, well, do you realize what he did and what the jokes and all this on? So in your world, that's because that's personal, that's yours. How dare you take my joke that I came up with. Imagine your joke, but now it's your kid, your body, the sacrifice, the hours, the diapers. You're gonna be like, no bro, you ain't messing with this one. Cause I put 50,000 hours into this.

You're gonna put six hours a day and you think you're gonna personally this? No, no, we're not doing this. We're changing property. I mean I change a school over simple thing like this That's why you don't like China so much because you see what they're doing with the intellectual problem Well, what he said about TikTok was freaking unbelievable I mean that shit up too is crazy I was right What is that?

What is that crazy? That's right What you can say about that? Isn't that crazy? I was right though? That's crazy I was right That's the story ball I was just made sense? Isn't that crazy? I was right though. That's crazy. I was right. That was a story ball. I was just made sense in the moment.

Like, I was like, man, if I had a social media company, this is what I'm sure America does. It's like, we got Facebook, Instagram, so we could like feed the algorithm and these other countries anything we want. And I assume what we do, we are doing it with movie and TV shows for years. It's like, we're sending out all our cool shit

and then everybody in other countries like I wanna be a cowboy, I want to be a cool guy, I want to do this stuff. It literally ended the Cold War, blue jeans and Rocky. Was it, is that what it was? Literally. Yeah, I thought they ran out of money. Not that part of it, because they were spending it all on blue jeans.

Exactly. Boom, not the space race. No, it was Levi's. But no, that culture, culture. I mean, every part of that, it was like, well, if China controls the algorithm, I want to hear it. Yeah, basically, like, yo, if China controls you through them, I want to hear it.

Yeah, basically, if China controls the algorithm, and they're showing different shit to the kids out there, then they are here. They could get us into this dumb shit everybody's twerking making stupid videos, wearing China, they're doing fucking math problems in engineering. I saw that through there.

But it's so fucking true. So I put that shit out there and I repost it, and I was like, man, I was all alone with this one, but that's what happens with jokes. Because sometimes things make sense in your head. And you're like, let me just throw it out there and see. And then, I don't know if I can say that. People in the state department put it that way,

got back to me and they were like, yeah, that's kind of what it is. No shit. So you're now on the inside with state to put it. No, no, they're not talking to me directly. Oh, okay. You're gonna say, you're getting same status. I don't want to be involved in that.

But you nailed it because like all the, I think about the American kids here are doing, they're doing the fucking tide pod challenge, like myself on fire and like what the fuck are you doing, bro? Like, and kids are you doing it. Over there, you can't do shit, not watching shit, just that science. That's all you're watching.

Our TikToks are fire though, like, that is pretty dope. Watching the light them so much fun, bro If you really want to think about that's who did that first wasn't that like to better some shit Yeah, it's a bet and guy the month the monks sell the fight fire old Shit was fine, but my tape this shit P.B.D. You've got strong opinions on what we should do with tiktok at this point you did a whole P.V.D. you've got strong opinions on what we should do with TikTok at this point. You did a whole case study about you're doing videos on Instagram that get literally millions of views and on TikTok you're getting like five views.

It's like clearly something's up. This is what's gonna happen. TikTok's got a lifespan. They're not gonna be around forever. TikTok's got a lifespan. You got a year or two years, one Republican president away from Ticktock being banned in America. And you're going to be the next vine. And some people who are not ready for it, they're not going to be adjusting. It's already done. Yeah. You think so? Yeah. YouTube shorts. You have some beautiful thing about like about

this is going to sound fucked up, but kind of like when like government and social media companies are in bed with each other. I mean, you know the game probably better than anybody, but I would assume once your company gets big enough, the government goes, hey, now we work together. And then you go, okay. It's kind of like a mafia thing. We're gonna work together now. It's not like an insulting thing,

but it's like you've reached escape velocity. And now we work together. And so with YouTube shorts, it's the exact same thing as TikTok, if you look at it. Only it has way more data and way more American data. You're talking about YouTube, which is Google, right? These are the number one and two search engines in the world. There's no way that you would prefer to be on TikTok than you would be on YouTube.

Well, brother, think about it. In America, you know, what's the Chinese TV station that we all watch? MTV. The point is that TV. There's the Chinese TV station that we all watch MTV? There's no Chinese media here. It's because we don't want our kids or our Civilization being indoctrinated by CCP thoughts. Yeah, but they averted that through social media through TikTok Yeah, so at some point who owns TikTok a bite dance who's owned by the CCP? Yeah, at some point and this is one of the things Trump was I got credit for.

Yeah, we need to relook into this. Yeah, we're not going to go into it now. Well, we don't need it. But you guys hear it. I think it was yesterday, the South Dakota governor, um, Kristi Noom. She banned it from every state agency, state agency, Nanyaka used TikTok at all.

It's all off the fold. What do you mean? She told the South Dakota governor, uh, Noom, she spoke, uh, she she I think she's pretty isn't she said it's off our networks It's blocked off of our servers any state employee anybody who can't get out of the South Dakota God on you period good for her Spector Andrew you know she's got some heavies. She got the head she got the heavy you know the twins started the heavies Right? Did they really that is it comes from that stop it. Stop it. So what have I got in my life?

Because they do. They absolutely do. Yeah, this is a losing game. That's the inside of the Empire like, and to me, I don't want to play. Heavy is what we call, you know, also our good choice. Lower back problems. Yeah.

Also our good friend. Sat Yomis. Yomis Park. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. I've even interviewed her. I'm trying to interview her on the court. Yeah, yeah, yeah. What do you mean you're trying to get her hurt?

You haven't? I've been messaging her a little bit, but she doesn't know that I always talk interviewed her. I'm trying to get her on the court. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You wouldn't even, you're trying to get her on the court. You haven't? I've been messaging her a little bit but she doesn't know that I always talk about how huge her tits are for me to wrap. I think that's gonna be the differentiator. She's gonna come on the podcast. She's a total sweet part. But she doesn't know and she's very sweet.

She's my neighbor. You know how small she is? What? Do you know how tiny she is? Not all of her. Why? She's maybe 85, 90 pounds. Really?

First of all, first time we go out to lunch and Adam's. You've been out to lunch with her? Yeah, so we go out to lunch. Is there a restaurant where they serve rat in America? She's so fun. No, this is crazy. Like, you know an actual rat. You did.

You're not. You're not. You're not. You're not. We had a rat burger though. You're not. She came and she's mad. Jason brought us. You know She came and she's Jason proud as yeah, yeah, Jason by the way, it's so funny. So we're sitting there and out of yummy man She she meets Adam for the first time this is Adam's the first sound what she says to us

No, no, the second time because we spent the whole day together. We were filming content That's right. That's right. And what does she say to you? She goes hey, you gay you gay, right? I said I said what by the way, that's right. And what does she say to you? She goes, hey, you gay. You gay, right? I said, I said, what? By the way, she's in front of everybody. She's like, Adam, you're just so nice. She looks like, good, you gay, right? I said, I said, yummy. Say that one more time.

You gay, I said, no, I will take your little 85 now about that back. I'm gonna show you what gay, that's all I got. You help me, but she's absolutely hard. You can't, oh, God. Her story's a crazy story. You know me, but she's absolutely hard. Yeah. Yeah. Her story is a crazy story. Yeah.

The fact that we're talking about her real talk, the fact that we've even know her name, we're talking about her, escaped. Guys, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, go back to what you had there. That's what Rob had. Where you at? Rob Google. You'll be Park's plastic surgery. You're going to have a breast implant.

Oh my goodness. No, I genuinely believe that we have changed Google by talking about this so much. Her and Nancy Pelosi. Like now Nancy, if you just type in Nancy Pelosi, see what else comes out. Bro, we just got pictures of my girl. You were the first person to recognize. She's been a politician for 50 years. I have her picture on my desk. She shows up.

He's like heavy. I unbelievable set of tits on that. No ridiculous, up. He's like, heavy. It's unbelievable set of tits on that. The ring dickulous, bro. Yeah, yeah, yeah. She's 82. Yeah, she's 82. Wait a minute. She really 82.

Look at that. Bro, look at them thing. Bro, no frying. When she was 21, she must have been just a killer. Crazy killer. Have you seen her at 21 or something meeting John F. Kenner? Oh, yeah, I know that. Have you seen her picture?

Can you find that Rob? I'll find Pelosi with John of Kennedy. Yeah. And then see what she looks like. See what she was right there. Is he in? What? Yup. Yeah. I'm bangin' up. Bangin' up. And look at the smile on his face. Yeah, right. No.

How would a N. I would have Nancy Pelosi end up meeting JFK in 1960. This all makes sense. I can't imagine. I can't imagine. I have no clue how that could. She's connected. It actually connect them. No, he said he could get a table of carbon on a Friday.

It's a hard find here in Miami. No hundred percent. How many girls have you said I can get you a table of carbon? Eight o'clock rest of the 10 o'clock rest. Oh, right. 10 o'clock rest. Come on. I'll never forget.

I'll never forget. The first time I time I'm chillin' with Adam, we walk into a play where we're with. My aim here, one of these spot in the sky. I'm like, I'm new here. I'm just from these coasts. I'm just like trying to come in. And as, right, we walk in. I'm trying to, like, get our ideas.

And I'm trying to, and I'm like, so Adam, who are we gonna, Adam's already in a group of girls, I guess, so that's Vinnie. He was just, this guy doesn't wait. Carbone, time to talk to me. Anytime. Anytime, he's like,

Vinnie, he already sold the resume to me. And she's like, oh, it's like comedian from the time. I'm like, god,, this guy doesn't wait. Carbone, 10 or 12. Anytime. I can do my part. Vinnie, you already sold the resume to me. And she's like, oh, it's like comedian from your, I'm like, God, yeah, he doesn't wait any time. Okay, I got a quit. Do you have daughters? I do. Okay.

I, because I was living here for four months, I was concerned about raising daughters here. It depends on where you're raising them. You're not raising them in a club, bro. Nah, but still it's like. Miami. You get caught up in things. Like I live here for four months, right?

And I almost got caught up a little bit. I was like, well, I want a fucking I want a car. I think I want a I want an old car like I want a stupid old car. I got 64 Thunderbirds. No, I wanted a Chevy Astro. I wanted a Speedster, okay, and 1957 poor Speedster. And I got, I ended up getting a fake one, because I wasn't going to spend half a million dollars on fucking cars. James Lee, that's a sick car.

It's a fucking beautiful. You got it. You got it. I got a fake one. What color? The one I got was it's like a British race in green with a tan. Now I know to do British race in green in German cars, a little whatever, it's fake anyway.

So I don't know. Yeah. But no one knows the difference by the way, just so you know that. It's the same thing. No one knows the difference. The same thing. So what does it have to do with my amy? My point is like, I grew up in New York.

I didn't get a license so I was 20 years old. Like I didn't give a fuck about these things. I'm almost being influenced. So if you're a young girl, my goal in life is that my daughter doesn't fuck a guy drive an orange car, right? Like, if there's no orange car, if an orange car pulls up to my lot and I know my daughter sucking a guy's dick in an orange car this is like heartbreaking for me and I failed I think you have to be more worried about your daughter watching Disney than living in Miami

are they making movies about orange cars? is that what you said? is it not a magic compliment? it's a fucking orange Lamborghini. Is that what it is? What are you living right now? It was just like, it was so tacky and I'm like, there's no way that you like this thing. What's going on?

It's just look at me, look at me. Nobody even knows what the fuck is going on under the hood. There's no appreciation of it at all. It's like, I completely care about consumption and that's in the value it brings me. And I got a little scared and I was like, would my, could I still enough values in my daughter? Can my wife and so enough values in our daughter

that she would look for a guy that treated her kindly and loved her and cared about her and wouldn't be influenced maybe by her friends who are like, no, let's just go to the clubs. Bob, Bob. Do you have a daughter? No, no, no, no. This hypothetical daughter that you don't have,

you don't want to go in. Well, you get married for a reason. Yeah. You got to have a daughter? No, no, no, no. This hypothetical daughter that you don't have, you don't want to show me how it starts. Well, you get married for a reason, isn't it? Yeah. You got to plan a little bit. Yeah, 100%. Gotcha. You know, what was your experience like in Miami? I loved it.

I loved it. I loved it. You loved it so much. What do you live now? What do you live now? In New York. You live in New York. Yeah.

Are you thinking about moving here or no? No, no, I really liked it. And I was trying to do, I was like, can I do like six months, six months, seven months, six months, like Miami embraced us in a way that was, it was unbelievable. Like Miami's one of these really cool places and I'll give them this.

And I think it's like, Miami's like Latin America's version of America. You know how like Hawaii is like Asia's version of America? Yeah. Like you go there, you're like, this is America. But is it? Like that is what Miami was. And with that comes this incredible,

like a welcomingness, right? Where in New York everybody's trying to act like they're not impressed. And in LA people are just so absorbed with whatever's hot, it doesn't matter if it's like quality or not. It's just like this is the hot thing. But here, it was like, oh, you moved down here. Dude, you gotta come by the restaurant or dude,

you gotta come by the office. Like everybody was so inviting about, like even getting a coffee. Oh, this one's on us and I was like, wow, this is like a beautiful place. I want that. I want my kids to feel that. So I was very close.

I was very close. Are you out of phase of your, because right now you can live anywhere you're going to do specials and do well, right? You don't have to be in New York. Or do you see it as a career thing? It still makes sense to stay in New York and not move to another place. For stand up, New York provides a couple things. It's like one I can get on stage more and probably better quality stage time. Quality stage time means not like the people here on quality, but there's like five or six clubs

that can do four or five shows a night, instead of maybe in a sea like Miami, there might be like one show in the night, that's like really good. And the other ones here. It's not even close, to be honest. Yeah. As someone that stand up in Miami,

like New York is like head and shoulders above any city in the country. Yeah, and LA might be just a little bit let, I mean, New York is the mecca, but like in LA, I could have done factory store, you know, and improv, you just, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom,

boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. Great, yeah. Yeah, I mean, just be as, you know, Rogan has just so much energy around him. And so far, he's picked like a few things to do in his life and then been the best at all of them.

So it's like I think he'll figure out, like a thing of figure out comedy out there. Who's not gonna go flock to where he's at? It turns out, I mean, if you're smart, you gotta do that. Especially if you're coming up, not established. Exactly, so like, and the other thing for me with the podcast is I like having guests and it's harder.

I'm sure you guys go through this. If you're willing to travel, maybe you can make that happen. But I want to have these guests. And when you're in a New Yorker, you're in an LA, these people end up kind of blending in there and becomes more convenient. So I like building that. And also just I was too happy down here to be honest with you. I know that sounds like a joke, but it was like genuine.

Like I didn't think of a single joke for four months. Because you kind of want to be in a state of miserableness complaining and cramaging, oh, this mother, how many is complaining? Yes. And you do it in a funny way. So people tolerate it. But like in like Miami, it was just everybody there,

the virus like, freaking push back. Yeah. In life is good, man. Life is really good. Literally, it's like, no, no, no, just everybody there, the vibe. What a freaking person. It's like, life is good, man. Life is really good. Literally, it's like, no, no, no, no. It's like, what are you doing? It's okay, brother, it's okay. I found myself writing jokes about the driving being bad,

and I was like, I need to go back. I need to go back. As I'm on my arm tired. You know what? I'm like, what is going on? You're like, honey, we're getting the fuck out of you right now. I'm leaving, right. Literally, that was why, because down there was like,

everybody was like, spend time with your family, enjoy having party. And I was like, I'm not pushing back against any of this. I'm going to party. I'm going to spend time with you. The light inside was so much better in Miami. But if you're still in grind mode, dude, you gotta be in New York for that phase.

I like pushing back against outrage, especially in the outreach. So how do we do that, Justin? If I have your permission, guys, look, why don't we complain a little bit? Why don't we just, I'm serious, like, it's honestly, we're having a little too much fun. Rob, I want you to pull up what I just text.

You put it up, none of you guys know I'm putting up the story. I want to see what you're going to say. Tell me if there's a logic in this, if it makes sense, pull this one up, I don't know if you guys have seen it or not, this story just came out, okay. So US women's soccer team will pocket at least six and a half million dollars. From the men's team reaching a World Cup knockout rounds, more than they received for

winning two success of World Cup. So did you guys understand the story? So they get 13 million, I'll read it, US women's national cup. So right there. The men's national team is now guaranteed a prize of 13 million dollars after it's won or won. They're going to go into the final 16, meaning the US women's national team will take a cut of 6.5 million dollars. If the men win their match against Netherlands on Saturday to reach the court of finals,

they'll be taking home a minimum of $17 million. What do you think about this concept of whatever men do? We have to pay half of it to women. I mean, Andrews. Fair and equal. That's what it is. Yeah. That can't.

He's right. No, it's, I mean, it's ridiculous. You know, I got to look more to, I did a whole piece on the US women's actual team when they were complaining about the, about getting the deal that they wanted, which a lot of people don't know is they they asked for their original deal. They were the ones that petitioned for it and then they didn't want to have it afterwards. So we did a whole piece of that during the pandemic, but yeah, it seems absolutely ridiculous. You know, I think it's um yeah, it just seems a baby. I don't know, you get paid what you generate, you know, eat what you kill. Seems like the most reasonable situation. I don't know, get paid what you generate, you know, eat what you kill. Seems like the most reasonable situation.

How do you think about this? Well, I'm gonna bring up one of Andrew Schultz's jokes here. I'm not gonna do a copyright thing. This is yours, I'm saying that upfront, but in your special infamous, you address these types of issues, feminism. You were like, those are the part in the crowd where you were like,

I think we're on the same page here, guys. Well, you know, I went to one of these feminist marches, they're screaming, free the nipple, you're like, sounds good. Right? All right, you know, I think we should have gave a boyish and it's like, yeah, that'd be good, okay. Like, you were like, we need a, we need a,

we need a, we need a, we need a, for our half. Fucking do it. Yeah. Right? And you're like, are you guys feminists or fuck boys? Right? Yeah, yeah. That whole joke right there. Yeah, yeah. How feminists are becoming the men that they hate it.

That they hate it. And it was such an amazing perspective and the way that you kind of heated up with the audience. Yeah, yeah. That's essentially this right here. This is redistribution of wealth though, right? And this is something you're not actually a fan of, I assume, right?

You know why? Because, okay, so we talked to our expert Malik. And I said, who gets paid on the women's side, who makes the most money? And Malik out of nowhere says, well, women make more money and porn and modeling. Yeah. Malik, you watch a little too much porn Malik. I hope you're in the back watching pain attention, not watching other clips on your phone. If you know what I mean, yeah. He's not watching the check. You're looking. He's not watching. Check the check.

You're looking at me. I was about to say. Oh, no, that's wrong. He's like, couldn't name him. Is me. He's not watching. Holy shit. Fucking white, Malik.

It's your end of the week. His dad's from the Caribbean. I can't. That's how you got to name yourself. So they don't think you storm the Capitol. They're like, how are you doing there? I'm Malik. Yeah, my name is Malik.

I'm not John Johnson. I'm Malik. I'm Malik. I'm Malik. I'm Malik. I can't. That's how you got to name yourself. So they don't think you storm the Capitol. They're like, I'm Malik. Yeah, my name is Malik. I'm not John Johnson. I'm Malik.

I'm Malik. I'm Malik. Yep, yep, yep. Definitely not me. Oh, that's so freaking funny. So if you say that's a woman, female models, they're making a lot more money than what are we going to do? Let's take it and split it.

It just doesn't make any sense. Why does a woman go to college, man? That's unfair. 64% to 36%. Hey, we got to stop women from learning. Yeah, that's a good point. According to that, we should stop at least 14% of these women going out there and learning. You're like, I guess maybe the population's like 55, 85. But still, it's absurd.

Yeah. You sound very red-pilled right now, man. Dude, I'm so red-pilled, man-is-fear, dude. Dude, man. But you've been so man-is-fear, dude. You've dealt in that world, though. Dude, I'm so red pilled, man. Manosphere dude. Dude, man. But you've been so manosphere dude. You've dealt in that world though. You've interviewed a bunch of these guys, no? Now, it's like, why are you guys so afraid of women, man?

It's like, they're great. They love you. It's okay, you don't have to be afraid of them. Like, you don't have to like, dunk on them all the time. There's a lot of great women that are out there. I think I need to see more like married red pill dudes. You know what I mean?

Cause there's like, it's very rare that I see like, guys in happy marriages just dunking on women all the dudes. You know what I mean? Cause there's like, it's very rare that I see like guys in happy marriages just dunking on women all the time. That's what I say. Like I'm not taking advice from single dudes on, you know, how to be with women. Straight up, huh? I mean like if it's how to get some pussy, sure, tell me.

But if it's how to like build a life and have children, like, yeah, if you're trying to get laid. What do you want to tell me about getting married? Yeah, you know, you not to get married or they would tell you that marriage is a bad deal for men Or if you're gonna do get married you're gonna need a pre-naupe I assume you had this conversation with what fresh and fit in these guys Yeah, yeah, we had we had with them. I just I don't know. I feel like they operate from a place of fear man And I don't think that that's healthy. I don't want to teach men to be afraid Yeah, I think it's more risk assessment than anything like we're're in the insurance business. Life is the risk, man.

That's true. Every time you walk out the dough. It's risk. You go for it. You try to build something, if it doesn't work out, it doesn't work out. You skipped if you're Adam. You stay single and you advance on the way. Adam, you're getting married, bro.

All right. I'm willing to accommodate this. Does he have to be Jewish? No. Oh, really? I haven't dated a Jewish girl in 10 years. Oh, shit. That's the problem.

Well, Kaniyatel, me stay away from the Jews. I'm like, dude, I'm fine. I don't get it. By the way, did you see what K Stay away from the Jews. I'm like, dude, I'm fine. I don't know. By the way, did you see what Kanye just did? I mean, this is a wild guy. It's rare that you're on a podcast with Alex Jones and Alex is the normal guy. Alex, Alex, what's going on?

You're not a pop music. What is he? What is he? When Alex Jones, go to commercial. When Alex Jones is distancing himself from you, you got some problems. And when he's like, yeah, Alex Jones is like, no, Kanye, we don't, fuck with Nazis, right?

He's giving him the outlaw. We're wrong. Yeah, Jesus Christ. Are you, this, when Alex Jones is deferring to extremeness. Oh, God. And he's just like, if you get the calm down from him, you're, it's all unbelievable. It's very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, let me just read it, because this is he's just like, if you get the calm down from him, you're it's unbelievable. It's very clear.

Let me just read it. Let me read it because this is just happening. So Kanye West tells Alex Jones, I like Hitler. This is what he says. Yees appearance on far right conspiracy theory outlet, info wars, turn into a chance to preach anti-Semitic hatred. And now keep in mind, this is a daily beast story.

As the star formerly known as Kanye West praised Adolf Hitler within the first 30 minutes of the broadcast, Yee who face was entirely hidden behind a black mask. If you can show that Malik, Malik in the back, not Malik here, began praising the... I'm talking Malik, I'm not talking Malik. I'm talking Malik here.

He's like Philadelphia, that's what's going on. So here's what happened. He says, you're not Hitler, Jones said. You're not a Nazi. Well, I see good things about Hitler. This is what he said. Later, adding, every human being has value that they brought to the table, especially Hitler.

Now, this is what Kanye just said. And then he gave highways. He gave credit to highways to Hitler for some reason. Yeah, he didn't make highways. I don't think Hitler made highways. No, I don't think so. But he was trying to say that everyone has something good about that. Well, no, Hitler was known for being very much a...

What? I thought you were going to be a... He could make a highway. No, no, no, no. No, but what? He was a guy that liked buildings. If you read the book, Mindcombe, for some of his material, he was a guy that liked buildings. If you read the book, mine come for some of his material. Yeah. He was a guy that liked buildings.

So if he says that, I'm not sure if he build roads or not, but that was his area of interest. Yeah, but like, okay, I'm not singing up for Kanye at all, but it's like going off age like, like, what if like in all this craziness, if you're like, dude,

he bowled to 235, consistent. He was a fucking good, like, yes, he did what he did, but did you ever see the guy bowl like he had some good you can't say he didn't have anything But it's one of those things where it's like do you need to say it like exactly that? Like what the fuck hey your bowl? We don't need to hear about it bro like like Bill Cosby made a mean cup of coffee But you know what you put shit in it. Yeah, I think that he's trying to be you know what? You put shit in it. You know what I'm saying? I don't know. Yeah, I think that he's trying to be, you know, inflammatory.

The thing about Kanye is that like none of these ideas are his own. Like Kanye's, Kanye is just finding out that he's not as good a producer of intellectual thought as he is of music. I agree. And he just, what he's always done is just sample things. And that's what a great producer will do with it. That sound is really great. That sound is really great. And I blend them together I can make some of the greatest music ever. But now he's doing that with rhetoric and he's just trying to get attention which is what he did obviously with music and it's just not he's not good enough at it. He's not good enough at making these things cool. He can make musical. He can take, you would think you would never listen to. And put it together and you go, holy shit,

this is a masterpiece. He's not good enough at talking to make the things that he says cool and fun. Now, he can be hilarious. It's undeniable. The guys, even when he's saying the most fucked up things, you're like, holy shit, did he really? Did he bring out a Yahoo for Net and Yahoo?

Did you see that? He brought out a net and a Yahoo because he's talking about Benjamin Net and Yahoo. That is fucking crazy. You didn't see it. When would I have not seen it? With that, I would know. What? You gotta be kidding me. Talking about his really prime minister Benjamin Net and Yahoo. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I got to talk to my buddy Ben, Benjeman, and then he goes, Netton, and then he's like, oh my God, dude. You left! That's hilarious, bro. So let me ask you, how much of this, like on Twitter I posted the story,

and the guy responds back and he says something, which, you know, on what, responding to what Matt Walsh said, I don't know if you guys saw what Matt Walsh responded and he said, I wanna read this to you. If you can go to, shit, I don't know if you can pull this up or not, but I do if I could find it. So he says, well, what's the difference

between what Kanye is doing? Is that it zoom in a little bit? Yeah, if I was an optimistic man, I would at least hope that Kanye West is mental breakdown and self-immolation would persuade conservatives to stop falling madly in love with every celebrity who says one thing they agree with, but I'm not an optimistic man. Kanye is a former zoom in. Artistic genius who's been unraveling for years now, pushed and prodded along by people who pretend to be in his corner.

It's sad to watch the whole thing is just sad. Okay. So, guys said, well, what's wrong with what he did when he says, I love all people. One guy says, Jesus loved all people, Matt, what do you say about what he's doing? Okay, so they're going back and forth, right? How much of what he's doing? One guy said, it's pure self-sabotage.

He's not even aware that this is taking place. Is he, does he know what he's doing? Does he not know what he's doing where he's self-sabotaging? Is he self-aware? Is there like an outcome? This is gonna be my campaign because Trump went out there and said a few things

and then it worked for him. This is how I'm gonna get all this people behind me. What do you think he's doing? Does he know it? Does he not know what he's doing? I think that he's addicted to attention. I think he's hurt probably like, you know, you're famous for long enough,

you've been taking advantage enough in your life because people find you used to extract money from you, right? So I think it's very easy to be hurt and feel restricted and he's probably a guy who wants complete freedom but he's not willing to put up the money for it. So like, when you look at like Kanye's history, he put up money to try to create a fashion brand and he lost like, I don't know, $25 million.

So I'm just like that. So now apparently he's very adverse to ever putting money up. So he's like, I got these ideas, I got these ideas, but he's not willing to put the money up. So with the Adidas thing, it's like, you don't have to do it with Adidas, make your own shit. Oh, but you don't want to put the money up. Exactly.

So once you sign the deal for someone else's money, they're going to have a say. And that's just what it is. I think it's a gift to give the guy to calm crazy. Like, we only call people crazy that we love, right? Like, people love Kanye so they're willing to go, he's just crazy. There's no such mental illness as like,

I hate Jews now. You know what I mean? Like, it's not like you get depressed and you're like, oh, I really hate the Jews. You know what I mean? It's not like you get depressed and you're like, oh, I really hate the Jews. You know what I'm saying? It's like you are choosing to take that anguish or despair you're going through and funnel it into a lens,

but it's still a choice to do it. And I don't know if we would accept the same thing. I don't know if somebody was hating Asians or hating black people if we would go, I think it's having a little bout of mental illness. I don't know if we give that up to them. I think there's two things going on here with them. Clearly he's not willing, this is number one. Clearly he's not willing to seek counsel or listen to somebody. I'm sure there's people telling him Kanye. Bro, I've been your friend for X amount of years. I've

been a business partner of yours. I'm a fellow rapper of yours. I'm a political figure. Brother, you gotta stop. And he's just like, don't tell me what to do, dog. You can't tell me what to do. Like, there's that. 100%. And everybody in his corner is making money off him. And that's the trickiest thing is like,

when everybody around you make money off, you they're not gonna be honest. You're oblivious, you got blindspot. But now, losing all this money. Number two, by May, the whole Jewish thing. Clearly he was burned by some Jewish business partners. Okay, let's just back up a second. He was worth, as of like a month ago,

a couple billion dollars. They did all right. They were doing okay for your college, yeah. But what's transpired in the last few months? Okay, number one, so these Jewish business partners, record executives, maybe took a little off the top. He still was worth the billion. Took a little off the top. Then go deeper. So these Jewish record executives, maybe took a little off the top. He still was worth a billion. Took a little off the top.

Then go deeper. So these Jewish record executives, go deeper, he's getting a divorce from Kim. Sure, Kim's lawyer was Jewish. Oh, okay. All right, so another Jew's fuck with me. And who's Kim fucking after that? Pete Davidson, I guess he's kind of Jewish, right?

And you see what he did now? Allegedly, you can Google this. He is now converting the Judaism to troll Kanye. That's hilarious. That's what's happening right now. That's so shut up. That is fucking. That is really funny. He's converting Judaism and latest Kanye troll. I don't know what he went through, but like, is that what the picture is? Hello. That's so funny. Is that what, can you show me the picture? Is that what he's saying? Hello! That's so neat. Is that real? Here's the point. He's not willing to listen

when even people he trusts are like, dude, just whatever it is, I don't tell him what to do. And then he's just double tripling, quadrupling down on the Jewish thing. And then like, the business, Kim's lawyer, he's now he has to pay her 200 grand a month. Of course, that's great work. And that's based on what he made for the last five years, let's say not what he's worth now. That's how that works

Yeah, and then just to add insult to injury the skinny tatted up dude that's been fucking your bit your your wife Is now converting to duties of the fucking so he's just got so much hate in his heart right now Yeah, and there's we talked about what? Power versus force would you please just explain that and we can even pull it up about what power versus force. Would you please just explain that, and we can even pull it up right there. Power versus, oh, sorry. This is a powerful book. I've read this 20 years ago.

Just go to images, go to images. The way it describes it, the difference between power, all the way to the right with the colors. Yeah, click on it and zoom in. There's a smaller one that's not so real. This is a book, Kanye Musri today. Zoom in, zoom in, zoom in, zoom in. So everybody can see it.

So there's levels to power versus force. Okay. At the lowest level, zoom out a little bit, zoom out a little bit, zoom out a little bit. Yeah. All the way to the left side. It starts with shame. So you're ashamed. You're humiliated, which Kanye is right now humiliated. Gilt. So you blame.

He's blaming him at everybody else. Apathy, feel sorry for me. No, but that's the lowest level of power. Grief, regret, maybe he regrets something with his marriage, with career, whatever he did. Fear, he's afraid it's creating anxiety. Every low level area is him. Then it's got desire, he's craving, craving, attention, which is what Andrew just talked about right now. Then it's anger, he's angry, produces hate. None of those qualities are attractive. Then it's pride. He's warning. He won't back down. So the first level of humanity, the first levels that you actually have some power and you're free. It's courage. Okay, courage

to be wrong. Neutral. Let me hear both sides out. You're willing to improve. You're accepting people's mistakes. You're willing to reason, love, joy, and then obviously all the way at the highest level. When you look at this, I'm like, if can you read this book, if he was willing, if he had the courage, if he was accepting that there's some of it on him?

Mm-hmm. I don't know. I think you'd have a different way. Andrew, where are you at in this? Are you at love? on him. I don't know. I think you'd have a different way. And you're where you are in this. Are you at love? I have no fucking clue. I'm trying to think like this is with your life in general or this is just with each issue that you come across. No, this is this is where you're at with the way you approach life. This is where you're out with the way you approach life.

You know, for a lot of us, you know, you start at the bottom and you kind of work your way up. Some people are actually, you know, naturally at a good level. Yeah. But some that grew up in shitty environments and, you know, upbringing and divorces and parents and drugs and gangs and financial issues. And you have a lot of stuff to be upset about. And so to recover from that doesn't happen overnight. Yeah, no, I don't know, it's weird. I feel incredibly lucky and incredibly grateful. You know, I hope that I can like judge people's actions at least towards me that are maybe unsavory,

you know, based on what they're going through. But I think a lot of that comes from finally, maybe achieving success that I always wanted, so I'm not operating in a deficit. But I think a lot of that comes from finally maybe achieving success that I always wanted. So I'm not operating in a deficit. But I also remember operating in a deficit and then how you feel like the world is kind of against you and you kind of like lash out in that way. So yeah, hopefully I'm getting on that top half right there and definitely some of those feelings. And it's not about money, Andrew, but a part of it is success and all that.

Like you told the story about how like when you didn't have money and, you know, you were complaining and everything and then obviously when you had money, you're like, I don't know, you sounds nice. It's, it's a different vibe in your life. It's, it's less like the money. Like I've never done anything specifically for money. Like I always found like, you know, chasing greatness, the money will kind of find you. But because of like the rarity of greatness,

but money does offer this really cool thing, which is, I want to experience in my life, I want to know what it's like to completely check out from to use the manuscript term, if you will, the matrix. Like, I want to know what it's like to do everything in my life because I want to do it, not because I have to. And maybe you guys are already there.

I'm talking from the matrix, is what you're talking about. Exactly, yeah. So it's like. Take the red pill, Andrew. Listen, I'm going. No, but I believe it's like so rare because I don't think it's like very natural to do that as a human.

So I'm curious, like, and I don't know how much money you got, I think I know you got some money. I'm borrowing money from you. You're borrowing. But like, when you get to the point where I don't know how much money you got. I think I know you got some money. I'm borrowing money from you. You're borrowing. But when you get to the point where you don't have to work, a weird thing happens. You have to find something that you want it. What I've always done is I've gone,

I'm gonna do what I love and find a way to make money at it because I don't wanna do something I don't love because that's gonna drive me crazy. But if I love something, then I can put everything in it and I can just give it my all and I just love every day. Like I love going to the studio

when I love, I love, I love these. I love these. But what happens when you don't have to? That's when I'm curious. And like, do you remember that moment, like was it depressing a little bit? Like you almost stopped being part of human evolution, right?

Like up until people weren't supposed to have hundreds of millions of dollars, right? And then you get it. That's how your brain is designed. Do you have to trick your brain into thinking you're still surviving? It's a very good question. By the way, this whole Utah thing coming out of you talking on Pete Davidson with, you know, wanting to be a Jew. Are you thinking about joining the Church of Mormon or LDS? Is that kind of where you're going with this? Is that with the life chain? I'm going to Utah. Joseph Smith. Is that the direction you're going? No, not it is so funny

because I went there for, I went there for a great place by the way. I went there for Thanksgiving. I didn't know it's on Navajo land. Oh wow. So I'm spending Thanksgiving on fucking native and my whole thing. No alcohol, dry county. No, I'm not worried about dry. I'm just getting the status happy Thanksgiving for these motherfuckers. It is the most tragic fucking day. It was brutal. And it's a little chilly in the morning.

So like when you're eating outside, they're like, can we offer you a blanket or something? I'm like, I am falling for that one. But no, I am really curious. What happens so like when you're eating outside they're like can we offer you a blanket or something? I'm like I am falling for that one. But but no I am really curious what happens in life when you can unplug so when you can when it's a choice a choice right so this is everything from at least for me. I like things to be clear systems steps uh you know where the more clarity I have, the better I do, the more distracted I am, the worse I do, so the key for me is clarity. And anticipation is one of the biggest advantages you can have if you anticipate what you just did right on the podcast, you may not even be aware of it, you anticipated.

Like, what's going to happen to my daughter from living in Miami and she's dating, she's sucking, she's going, you're thinking, you're anticipating what happens. I mean, I was thinking about having a daughter at 23 years old, am I ready to have a daughter? Do I want to have a, that fear, I had that fear at 23 years old, you're anticipating. You question, you're asking right now, it's anticipating.

I broke it down in four 20 year runs. First 20 year, don't make a big stupid mistake, okay? Second 20 year, go make your money, okay? Third 20 year, pursue whatever you want creative by choice. Last 20 year, contribution where you want to go politics, you want to go do, you know, for land, you know, whatever you want to do, that's the last one,

if you want to go do anything without it. Okay, so that breakdown is, okay, I got to make my money first. The guy calls me from Hollywood who says, hey man, I watch your podcast closely, but I can't talk like you think I should open up a podcast and really tell people how I feel. That's how much money you get in the bank.

He says about 800,000 dollars. I said, what do you get in every asset, stocks, everything? I said about 1.4 million. I said, how old are you? 35 years old, 38 years old. I said, okay, you don't have a few money yet. Because if you do that in Hollywood, you're done. You're done. If you're Clint Eastwood, say whatever the hell you want to say, you got $500 million on the bank, you're good to go, right?

So that's, it's different for you because you're a comedian, you get paid to talk shit. So you're a little bit more free to, to say that. But first time I had 10 grand in the bank, I was 21, I've got out the army. It was freaking awesome. First time I had 100 grand, I was 21, I've got out the army, it was freaking awesome. First time I had a hundred grand, I was like, that's pretty tight. First time I had a million in a bank, it was cool. It was like, this is legit, a million.

But 10 grand, believe it or not, I felt more special than a million. 10 grand was the best. First time, 10 million, it was like, oh, 10 million, you actually felt free. Yeah. But when it hit a couple hundred, it's a different story, you know what I'm saying? You You kind of sitting like, just, I, yeah, yeah.

But I, yeah, yeah. Tell me about that. Yeah. Cause I imagine, I don't know how big you're doing, but like, there's the number that is fuck you money for you. Yeah. And that number keeps growing. But I'm not there yet, though.

Yeah. Well, where is it? Yeah. Where is it? Well, I don't, don't think okay, so because Love of the game. Let's talk about the love of the game. Yeah, does Joe need to do more podcasts because he needs money There's Joe need to do like you know how you watch the UFC. What's the best reaction Joe has would call me Oh, I mean everybody wants to see that right? It's like how LeBron does whatever he does

He's like do you just want to see Joe do this? Right? Let's say everybody reacts to it. You know, there is something very special about a guy who loves the game that's playing. Yeah. It's such a fricking, beautiful thing to see. You sit there, you say, dude, I just know you love your fricking game. And I want to watch you do it.

I watch you do it. I feel the love of the game. So for me, I draw from that. I'm attracted to that, right? If I say somebody that's doing it for them, I like NBA. There's some guys like I wrote about a guy named Andrew buying them one until the end. I didn't love the game.

He was just 7,260 pounds. Do it. Give this guy a hundred million bucks. It's hard to find a 7,260 guy, right? But you see a Steph Curry play. Guy frickin' loves the game. It's having fun. see a Steph Curry play. Guy frickin' loves the game. Is that fun? It's love.

It's love. It's love. It's love. It's love. It's love. It's love. It's love. It's love.

It's love. It's love. It's love. It's love. It's love. It's love. It's love. It's love.

It's love. It's love. It's love. It's love. It's love. It's love. It's love. solving money 100% you're eventually going to slow down. If you're pursuing a true vision, cause, purpose, love of the game, it's tough to slow down. Every night I come on my kids want to play dominant. We love the game of dominant. It's like the love of the game for us. So that's how we'd explain it to you. Also another reason why I don't want to grow up in Miami, Dominos. No, no, no, no, no, no, but uh, it's plenty of Dominos in New York, though. Right. You're right. No, but, no, no, no, no, no. But it's funny that that one is a New York Delphi.

You're right, you're right. No, but the thing about Love of the Game was as interesting is you don't know that it's pure until you make enough money to not play. Very good point, very good point. So it's like Steph already had enough contracts. He ain't all got to play basketball. So the love of the game for you, I'm assuming,

is multi-faceted. Absolutely. Like building businesses, but you're into this game as well. Yeah. And then maybe aspirations of politics. Maybe we find somebody like you and put you in the White House.

Maybe we do certain things like that. That's, first of all, that's big money talk right there. That's big money talk. When I'm a puppet, you know what I mean? You're so funny. You're so funny. That's how money talk. When I'm a puppet. You know, that's how rich people talk about. So, money will put you in. No, but you know, but you know what it is. It's it. Let me kind of explain that part in maybe a different way that it'll make sense to you.

I'm the guy that in Iran, I watched Rocky IV in Farsi, a couple hundred times. You know, the best part in Farsi in the movie is what? At the beginning of the fight, you know, I noticed you were, you were just, and at the end of you can change, and I can change and I can change anybody can change And he was kind of dull concept of the movie was let's bring Russian US together, right? Unified which brought down the US as a way half of my family is communist half of my family at the time was imperialist So my half my family loved America half my family hated America some kind of like shit Yeah, it makes sense with me

So there's that pure direct experience as a kid living in Iran. Should that passion experience, right? I go to Germany, I live at a refugee camp, I'm kind of watching all this stuff saying, man, this is pretty crazy what's going on. I hang in there with all these Albanians, Yugoslavian and Czechoslovakian. These countries don't even exist anymore. You're like, hey, why are you leaving?

Why are you leaving? You're learning immediate education on different cultures, right? Like you'd say, what's the word? Fast track, learn about 40 different countries in 18 months, at 10 years old. Kind of what happens when you're living at a refugee camp. Then you come to the States, I'm the guy

that we would leave Wilson, Jr. high school, and we would walk down home, and it'd be like eight of us. And I say, Andrew, question for you. Who do you want to be, Andrew? You got four choices. You can be the richest man in the world. You can be the president You can be the best athlete like Michael Jordan or you can be the best performer like Michael Jackson Who do you want to be and then you would go and

We will play this imagination game, but always living in Lala land dreams all this stuff Army camaraderie group together sitting down talking shit drinkin Sarcastic with you talking shit to him, he can't handle it, he's sensitive, so we really go out and work a couple hours. We light them up tomorrow morning, got breaking formation, you know, that was, believe it or not, the army's filled with great comedians, they just don't know their great comedians.

We're just not the camaraderie in the army, pay me five bucks a month, but give me a five, you know, crew of running mates, having a blast to forget about the money. So the passion of like this right here, right? This is the camaraderie is a very special thing. Then I got into business and I like numbers. I like numbers a lot.

Like to me, I'm just looking at the numbers right in the middle. Everything to me is numbers, right? I'm a, I'm a math guy, even on my one point in a GPA. I love numbers. So I got into financial service. I'm like, I should numbers are pretty interesting. And then I learned sales, and then I learned competition, and then I like Hollywood, comedy, movies,

sports, combine all those to get us to do it. We're gonna have to do a lot of things. So for us, our vision today would, what we wanna do, everything that was on my list, I'm in pursuit of whether I hit it or not, I don't know but I'm in by the way that pursuit Oh my god is freaking such a high like you're in pursuit right now You're in pursuit right like I watched the

Marcelo comedian that's not with snl. He was with us for you. He was working for us Yeah, Marcelo was his producer for like every day. he was at our office and I would watch Marcelo. I'm like, this kid really believes in himself. Yeah, yeah. He's a dreamer. You got to love this guy. Yeah. And he had a vision too.

The pursuit, that pursuit is attractive. So the pursuit, you know, I'm most miserable when I'm not pursuing something. And it can be long pursuits or short pursuits. It could be a little project that I want to get excited and I want to execute. But if I don't have a thing that I'm not pursuing something. And it can be long pursuits or short pursuits. It can be a little project that I want to get excited and I want to execute. But if I don't have a thing that I'm working towards, even if I'm doing the things that are generally exciting

that I enjoy, it's not as fun, it's not as exciting. Yeah, I need that thing, I need the carrot. And I, yet the more money you have in financial freedom, you have, the more you have to incentivize yourself with the carrot. Because very easy for the carrot to be rent, you know, but like, when you don't got to worry about it, now what's the carrot?

Yeah. Which you know, I'll tell you, like, think about what Elon is doing right now. Okay, Musk. Musk, I said, I believe Twitter's gonna be a trillion dollar company six months ago. Can I make a video about it? I said, if this guy buys it, it's gonna be a trillion dollar company in no time. Three to five years, it be a trillion dollar company six months ago. Can I made a video about it? I said, if this guy buys it, it's going to be a trillion dollar company in no time.

Three to five years into a trillion dollar company. You're out of your mind. Scott Galloway, he'll never even buy it. He's bullshit in you guys. You think he's going to buy it? He's just faking it. You guys are idiots. Galloway, Professor Galloway.

Yeah, small wife got her MBA at NYU and that guy's so fucking annoying. There's some things he says that's good. There's some things he says you're're like what are you talking about? You're not a guy on muskete? By the way, you know this guy. Do you know this guy? I got a way guy. No, no, he's talking about Galway. Got you. Got you. Got you. Got you. He was by the way, in that world, he's a God. Well, he did write that that that paper about how boys and men and all this stuff. Yeah, make money being shaped and have sex. Yeah, and then he got like Man and all this stuff. Yeah, make money being shaped and have sex. Yeah. And then he got like shit on for it I think and then he like apologized on his podcast

It's really yeah, it's it's a little but anyways, he's like a deity in that world. Yeah, he is right He's like a Michael Porter guy NYU kind of like I don't know what you call that The what is it collegiate intellectual sphere? I think he is you know he had a show on CNN plus It they crushed it. It's I don't know if you heard about it. Yeah, we're going over it now. Yeah, it blew up. Yeah.

So, yeah. But anyways, you look at Elon, he's not chasing money. He's like, I think I can take Twitter to a billion active users. Dude, if you take Twitter to a billion active users, 10% pay eight bucks a month. That's $800 million a month in revenue. That's $800 million a month in revenue. That's 10 billion a year in revenue. But you don't need any advertising.

You tell everybody to screw off. I don't need any of this stuff. Then all of a sudden, Citroën also said the solution, his method of doing it that works so well, he solves for what is my solution, how difference going to be. He goes and gathers intel from everybody. He doesn't come up with all the ideas.

What do you think? What do you think? And in all of a sudden, he's rich. So, but if you flip it and it's only the money you're chasing, you will slow down. Because I forgot the question. Do you guys think, Angel? I'm going to ask all you guys, do you guys think his motive for the Twitter takeover was genuinely him going, we can't even talk.

Was he a savior for free speech? Obviously the money's involved, but what do you think his general, like I think genuinely, like I'm a Christian, I believe in God, I'm not overly religious, but dude, sometimes God just, whoop, pucks in his little people,

because if it's not for him, you see how what it is in China, bro, regular Americans don't understand, they don't watch what's happening in China where they're beating the shit out of these people, they have drone spraying chemicals and shit on them. They are, it's horrible over there. It's slowly this, by the way, you see what they have with the seat, they're, they're

COVID lockdown shit. This country I feel would gladly love not to go that extreme, but they would love to keep us locked down, make us just depending on the government. You guys think that that's what his motive, like Elon shit is, that he genuinely gives a shit about us and free speech? I think so. I think it's definitely part of it. I don't know what percentage,

but I think it's also like buying a Rolex of retail, where it's like, even if you hate it, it's not going down. Yeah. You know what I'm gonna do? So it's like, you're not gonna lose money on Twitter. If you can figure out spaceships, you can figure out fucking Twitter. Yeah. Yeah, let's be honest. Yeah. You know, so it's like, I can't, you're not going to lose money on Twitter. If you can figure out spaceships, you can figure out fucking Twitter. Yeah. Yeah.

Let's see. Honestly, yeah. It's not like the hardest thing. It's like, you have the app where everybody talks. That's where all the news comes out. This is the news. He bought the news. Yeah. So yeah, I think he'll figure it out. And I think the more active users, the more money it's going to generate, even if he's not charging a monthly subscription, it's like, you want to be on the platform.

Everybody's on. Yeah. You guys think though, you guys think the government is going to get involved because I know the, yeah, the White House was like, oh, we're looking at it closely. Oh, now because it's somebody that wants free speech, now you guys are all the sun work about. They can only play these games for 18 months before the Santa's get. They're going to be miserable for eight years.

Eight years every day. They're gonna have nightmares about the Sanctus and Musk. They're gonna be miserable. If he does go, who do you think he's gonna run with? If you had to, right now who would it be? He's running mate right now. The Sanctus. You talking about VP?

VP. If you had to go right now. If Adam would his Vegas bets, what would you bet right now if you had to? Because I'm not your swarrest. He's about to announce. Oh, Florida ticket. He's about to announce. Oh, no, that's what.

That he's running for president. Who is my guy? The swarrest. The swarrest, stop it. Yeah. Stop it right now. Oh my God. All right, now he's a good guy. He's a sweet guy. That's what swarrest. Don swaras, stop it. Stop it right now. Oh my God. All right.

He's a good guy. He's a sweet guy. That's what swaras. Don't have to do it. Don't do it. There's no chance. There's no chance. Swaras, I love you.

Yeah. Don't have to press it. You really think there's no chance of swaras. Mayor Swaras? Yeah. He's about to run. No, but he's going to run for president. You think that he could...

How many votes does he need to win like my inch? 16,000? There's something like that. It's like, he's about to announce he's considering running. But love again. Okay. Mayor Suarez, I love you. You're a sweet guy. We text. Okay. Don't fucking run for president, please. I mean, this is, I love you.

And I almost did the coffee talk with you. I mean this and say, I love you. And I almost did the coffee talk with you. Gafasito. Gafasito. Don't run for fucking president, please. Please don't do that. That's a huge step. That's a huge step.

Okay, bring him back up there. Run for governor, Florida. They still think that your Mario Lopez, you hope with your host fucking entertainment tonight, that they have no clue that you to the mayor of part of Miami. Part of the part of the like the least interesting one. City of Miami. It's not even the beach. Yeah. Yeah. Get the beach for. Swars. Swars. You don't even have beach fret. You got intercoast for. I need you to get beach

before we go president. Okay. How many votes decide Miami? For the city of Miami, yeah, probably there's 11 of whalas in fucking aprons. Go votes once every four years. And they put you back in it. Please don't run for president. I love you. Don't do it. Just he's a sweet guy.

I'm so proud of you guys. We had him on the party. He's great. Yeah. But back to your question about Elon Musk. Yeah. I think shouts over here, hit it on the head. If you could figure out how to send people to Mars and space,

you could figure out an app over here. I mean, that's just hello. You know, I'm saying the passion, I'm saying the, but you're saying why? And here's a why, that's gonna be the fact. The idea that nerds can figure out social media. That's true. Like, knowing that creates a social app

can have a conversation, right? The fact that they've been successful at that. I'm not saying Elon is the best conversationalist. In a mean, you see him on a podcast and he malfunctions. And then he answers the questions. Right? And so he speed up the neural link, buddy. And he's like, like, Joe's asking,

is like, so what'd you do today? He's like, I won't be able to do that. Just the smallest guy in the planet. You telling me this guy right there? Like like Joe's ass is like so what you do today like I will Just the smallest guy in the planet you tell me this guy right there Water Water But here's the thing with Hearts and stars over here, but he is from South Africa. Let's go Let's go and just show it wants to get soft here We'll get soft now. I love the hearts and mother can start you talking about America right now, okay good

But he is from South Africa. Yeah, he grew up under a part. I think that's something Twitter is a African-owned business That's true. Yeah, we support Disney supports So I think he understands that at the end of the day, like what happened there. But don't forget Joe Rogan, Elon Musk, as of like two years ago, they were four sure Democrats. Yes. Joe Rogan was definitely voting for Bernie. No, no, but by the way, Musk voted for Biden. And he just said it last week.

Yeah. So that's my point. And then over the last two years, they've seen what's going on with the woke culture. And California and, you know, leftist and all that. And they're like, it's too fucking much. And then he just, all that and everything he saw in apartheid, it's all just, you know, he's sort of like in the same way that Cubans are often triggered by democratic ideology. Be as I'm from Cuba. Exactly. I love those. I love those. Some people cry Cuban people. Like, I

don't know I have no idea. I didn't swim here. You think you swim to Cuba. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But something something about Elon, the partied the free speech, whatever, the trigger, the human rights It just was like art on buying Twitter, yeah, and that's just kind of where I hope I honestly I think he has good intentions with things I know he does he strikes me as an honorable man in that regard so I don't think so politics is always tricky man like I never I don't think politics is the way I think politics is just a reflection of what the people want like their Spine list they'll change and I think that like scary thing. I think politics is just a reflection of what the people want. Like they're spineless, they'll change.

And I think that like scary thing about politics, like politics and like financial institutions, those are the two ones where like if you have enough influence and you talk shit about, they will make you radioactive real quick. Like Joe was fine until he was like, yeah, like that Bernie guy for present, then the next day,

looking through every video he's ever done, posting things out there, he's this, he's that. They're guy for present, then the next day, looking through every video he's ever done posting things out there, he's that. And the same thing I saw with Dave Portino, he runs Barstool, was like, Portino was a hilarious guy who had a sports website, that's how the world treated him. And then he started doing that. He was a daily day trader over the pandemic. $day-be-dollar. And he was fucking with the financial markets a little bit

and they were like, oh no, we're not gonna play this. Yeah, yeah. But the beautiful thing about the Wall Street bets, like the kind of a Reddit community, is it's a decentralized, it's not one guy that you can make radioactive. When you're one dude, you're Joe, you're Dave, it's like they can bring out everything in your past.

How did I deal with that? And you know what, I do we and you just quit? I'm so happy you brought that up. We were just talking about before this just like the Jerry Jones thing where Somebody out of nowhere bro goes a 1957 you were standing in a dude. He's standing behind the fucking group. It's just white. You know, it right looks the same What was it about what it was about? He was in, he was in. It's literally rock, bark, and so I pulled it up. It was one of the desegregation. These desegregation, they were trying to black kids,

black kids trying to get into the school. Like look at the front, Jerry Jones, bro, if you could zoom in, Jerry Jones is in the back, well, standing right there. Can we just acknowledge like everybody had great hair back there? There, isn't it? And what is in your hair? You're not talking that hair, but I'm like,

I'm like fucking pom-aid and things. Poor Malik is looking at you. Yeah, Malik coming out of the back. Yeah, but like look at this hair, stunning, right? And my, like it was a gel, was it, what is going on? But you'll, do you see like, you just like, think about it, Andrew, and he just chillin', but, you know what I mean?

But that guy with a cigarette does not like, like, like, people, and he just chillin' oh, you know what's it? You know what's it? The cigarette does not like black people, but I want some sure. Yeah, I know. Hey, like, you don't even like the cigarette. He's on him, Bob. I don't even go to school here. I don't think you can beat it. So, for this ain't even lit.

But like, so you imagine like, my question was, like, they could dig up and they could find, so this has been out since 1957, and then somebody goes, oh, you know what? Watch this, Jerry Jones, right there in the back, and mind you, he's just in the wrong place at the wrong time, just standing, just taking a back.

I mean, did he say he was protesting? There's no like, he did either. Did you see his answer or no? No, I just didn't. He says, I didn't even know why I was there. I was 15, did you see his answer or not? No, I just got it. He says, I didn't even, you know, even know why I was there. I was 15. Yeah. I was scared I was going to get in trouble.

I have no other memories outside of that. I just showed up. So that's what he said. Yeah. Yeah. Stephen A. Smith said, he should have said, I heard there was black girls come to school. You know what I'm saying? I'm trying to skip in the chocolate.

I'm trying to try new things. You know what I'm saying? I'm trying to try new things. You know what I'm saying? No, but what is Stephen doing? But by the way, that would have been funny if he did say something like that just mess with them. I was dating this girl, Kiki, and you know, we were like if he had the other side, you don't see her. Kiki was on the other side telling me, come on, come on, Jerry.

No, let's see. Stephen A. said originally he says, come on guys, you're doing this. You're bringing about back a picture from 60 some years ago when the man was 15 years old, leave this one alone. What are you doing? Anyways, then Lebron today says, I'm wondering how come you guys are asking all these questions about Kyrie, but you guys are not losing it over what Jerry Jones set or Jerry Jones is pictures.

How come you're not that energetic about that? And that's how Lebron was kind of a, and then Stephen A came back and said, I 1,000% agree with what LeBron said today. Anyways, it's a mess with a guy 65 years. You got a good point. If they want to come after you and it's hard, get you on anything, it's not going to be hard to find anything on anybody now. 100% Oh, I'm screwed.

Especially my military days. I did some landish shit. Drawing strikes? Not that great. But I'm, but I can only love that. Love that one. No, I'm just talking about pictures and make. I dude, there's shit out there of me.

Where if they ever want to, bro, like they'll just, and they got you. Yeah, you just don't run for a public often. Never. That's what Andrew, you brought up the Rogan thing. Yeah, he brought up Bernie, all thing. Yeah, he brought up Bernie. All right. And if you talk about politics, right,

we talk about Wall Street, finance. They're going to come after you. Who else did you say other than politics and finance? Yeah. I'll say quit finding. And then we saw what happened with Andrew Tate. He started talking about that. Right.

What was he talking about? All that. The matrix and the system and the world government order and they have the matrix cancelled it. I think Tate's controlling the lead. I don't know. I think Tate's, because he's clearly a smart and thoughtful guy. And he's quite funny too. But I think his miscalculation was he was playing up a character as comedy, as funny people do. I mean, we all do it.

We play absurd. We'll say certain things on this podcast right now for jokes that are not really real. But if somebody went, hey, did you really feel that way? I'd be like, no, you idiot. We're joking around because we're four guys in a room, Boston, balls. I don't really think Malik is the black guy. Yeah. I just said that.

But the tricky thing with Andrew, and I think the miscalculation was, his business was tied to those things being his actual beliefs and truths. He's getting five million a month for hustlers' university, and it's tied to him actually speaking these things as truths. And I saw him, I think it was on Pierce Morgan.

He's like, I wish I could have maybe redone it or like delivered it in a different way. But the thing is, the more salacious you go, the more attention you get, quicker you get. I think he could have gotten there. The same place is that now just had like a slower trajectory. He would have gotten there, but it wouldn't have been so meteoric. But yeah, I think that's really it's like he can't say, I didn't believe any of that stuff because then you lose all that money that's coming in based on those beliefs. You think he's gonna fight Jake Paul?

If I'm him, I wouldn't. Why? Because if he loses, it kind of loses the whole stick. I don't think he loses the stick because I think he's smart enough to think of a way around it, like the bravery of just going in there. I respect any guy who gets in the ring. I mean, if you ever like box or anything like that,

it's like, it's the real deal. Like a lot of people talk a lot of shit, they don't wanna get in there. So I respect him for actually doing that in general, but Jake is a beast, bro. But a lot of people don't wanna, Jake is a beast. Jake will fuck up most boxers.

He will fuck up most MMA guys. I mean, I think we've already proven that. In a boxing match. In a boxing match. Not in MMA. And I think he'd be the first person to say, like, I'm not beating any of these guys in MMA. This is what their expertise is.

But he's taking it seriously. And then I imagine Tate, who's probably in his 30s, right? In 35, 36, yeah. Yeah, he probably hasn't fought in a few years. Like, that is like a whole transition in life to go do something to prove what. You were already a world champion kickboxer. What do you prove by beating Jake?

Maybe you get a payday. Maybe it's, I think there's a number of them out. Okay, let's say you get five million. Let's say you get 10 million. Is it worth it? I don't know what the guy's worth. But if you got a hundred million or whatever, maybe he's saying he got in the bank, like, is it worth it for five?

Is it worth it to train for six months? Your roadtaping has fucked up. Your eye already has issues. Is that worth it for five? Or could you take those six months and apply yourself to another business and make five? I don't know. What would you do? I think you're right.

I don't think he should fight him. I don't think he should fight. By the way, if... And I don't want to take money out of Jake's pocket because I you're right. I don't I don't think he should fight him. I don't think he should find a by the way And I don't want to take money out of Jake's pocket. That's a fuck of Jake. Yeah. Yeah. Well, no, I think I think Jake is I put him in a top five best troll shit talkers in the game It's and he goes up against people above him and he hangs It's not like he's calling out people below him below bullion He goes up and he he can go go up against anybody.

No, I don't think Tate wins here, whether he wins or not. Like, okay, let's just say Tate fights. And he wins. What are you going to say? What are you going to say? Tate fights? And he wins. What changes? World champion kickboxer. That's right. But, but, but if, but if Jake goes, and he wins, what do you think Jake and more importantly, what does Logan say? My younger brother. Pete, the guy that talks to Matt Shabong.

Listen, I don't think you do this fight. I don't think it's necessary. I think this whole thing is plenty outside of this. I don't think you do the fight. And you're already coming back. Like you've seen, listen, they're guys who get canceled. They don't have the chops to come back. He's got the chops, like he can speak to intellectuals

and defend himself pretty well. There's some certain things that they'll kind of like pigeonhole him into and he's just gotta go like, all right, I said something was fucked up, I shouldn't have said it. But he can hang, so all he needs to do is continue doing what he's doing now. And then he just has to turn down the dial a few degrees.

It's not gonna be as funny, it's not gonna be as salacious, but it doesn't need to be because he's already established the name. And then he can continue running that out. He's actually an interesting thing to say. He just said some wild shit that if he was a comedian, we would all laugh that and not question. Of course.

I had a joke back in the day that it was one of the first things that actually started my career. Went viral on Reddit on Super Bowl Sunday or remember it happening. And it was countries that treat women the worst have the best food. And it was this whole long bit about like, nobody's ever went out to say like, you want to have Canadian tonight? Like, no, whatever, it's like the more women, you know, you're like, stay in the kitchen, the better the food comes out of the kitchen, right?

And this bit, this like long craft had been, I put it out and went viral on Super Bowl Sunday. I'm a comedian. If there was a person who was literally making the argument, that's how we should treat women. So food tastes better. You'd be like, this guy's a fucking psychopath, right? And then if they made a lot of money off of that

and they had to stick to that, it's a really awkward position. But when you're a comedian, you're going, hey, I was just being entertaining and like playing with things that happen to be true and are correlated, but it might not be like causality. And you get away, it's kind of fun. I almost wish take could be like, dude, I'm a comedian, but I also say really kind of insightful things

So we could still get the function That's the that's the card of a comedian. You see it's like I almost want to go do a couple In them put amateur comedian And then from there comedian Yeah, good. And at the time you say anything fucked up, you'd like, just to come in, just to come in. Yeah, just to come in. Yeah, just to come in.

Oh my God. The audience get a way longer leash than anybody else. Yes. As they should. Yes. That's your job is to talk shit modern day philosophy. And even if it's kind of bombastic and ridiculous and out there in totally extreme, it's like, these is jokes.

Yeah. And this is, I was talking to Jordan Peterson about this recently, but like, it's the importance of play. It's like human beings. We like to play with the things that we're uncomfortable with, that we fear, right? Like, Halloween, the whole idea of Halloween is playing with death.

Like, we're terrified of dying. We're terrified of like, our parents dying or children got forbid dying. So we have a whole holiday, which we didn't use to dress up as like football players. Used to be like skeletons and that kind of shit. It was like, let's play with this thing, we're terrified. We do it with, when you go to like Disney World or some shit,

you go on these roller coasters, you're terrified of it. And that's what comedy really is. It's playing with emotions that scare us, ideas that scare us, and doing it in a way where we can all laugh and experience it in a safe way. So when it happens in real life, we're a little bit more ready. That's why it's existed for fucking probably thousands of years. People in bus and balls forever.

When you're with your guys and you're with your guys in the troop, there's no softball jokes. No. It's the most savage thing that I've been doing. No question about. You're a father, you're a picture boy. You're sexuality. How you, yeah.

I wish, I haven't done any service, but I wish that people could see what the camaraderie is in these troops because from my understanding, from my friends who have served, my father served, there's no, it's like everybody loses their identity, they have outside, and all the, oh, your Puerto Rican, the white guy, I was the craziest thing about a Puerto Rican,

the Puerto Rican said crazy thing about a Jewish guy. And it's like, dude, I was a middle Eastern in the army. Oh, yeah. You were, you were talking about like, it let it rip. Well, I was in the 9-11. And you wanna stand? No, you were in your stripes, my boy.

Well, I was in like, and I was a middle Eastern. Which, I was in like, I don't remember as it was happening, people were like, Vinnie, aren't your mom and dad from where these people are? And I was like, oh shit, here we go. But it was great though. Oh, it was bold. Cause I fought back.

I'm not bold. If you can take it, it's really gonna build some character. If you can take it. Oh yeah. Late night, two o'clock, you're drunk, just calling each other out talking shit. Yeah. But if any of that was recorded, forget it. Oh yeah. Late night, two o'clock, you're drunk, just, you know, calling each other out, talking shit. Yeah. But if any of that was recorded, forget it. Forget about it. I mean, it's canceled. Done. Oh, but those relationships you, you have in those moments are so beautiful because you're saying exactly what you feel jokingly to another person. You're not putting

on like a slight facade. So then you get to build these like really deep connections. And that's, that's always what I felt like even with comics, you see that like we say kind of whatever to one another people I've worked with. And it's like I want to build, I want to build a world where we can be almost 100% honest with one another because then I'm a ride for you no matter what you're going to ride for me, no matter what because you really know me. I'm not being a politician about it. I mean, that's to be honest with, with Trump, I think, exposed about politics. He was playful up there with a bunch of people faking, and it was so hard to not look at him

when all these other people were trying to be like, like, Jeb Bush trying to be all professional. And he's just clowning Jeb. He's like, look how far down he was. That was amazing. He's like, wake up. Yeah, wake up, he's taking a nap. Yeah, busting is he's a comedian.

He's like, I think what you're talking about, because I did stand up comedy for many years and then I got into finance and all that. But one of the things I used to always say, because I used to make fun of this person. And that person is like, it's not racist if you make fun of everybody. Yeah.

If anybody can get it at any given time, it's not racist, you're just talking shit. The thing with Kanye, it's, nope, it's just the juice. So it's like, well, then you're just an anti-Semi near a Jewator. Okay. And there's no jokes. And there's no jokes there either. That's not that funny. Other people.

Jews want to be made fun of. Like Jews like, Bench jokes. Bench jokes. And if comedy, Andrew, you know that. Jews control the media. And go enough while you said that. And I think the beauty, like, and going off while you said,

Andrew is infamous, the special that you did, which was fucking dope, it was bananas. To one compliment, to open this what we're comediest, and this is real, and you know you know this and Pat, I never appreciate it. You opened your special with crowd work. And for all the people that are out there, this guy, you're taping this thing.

The money's been, it's not like, if you went up and it didn't work, cut, Andrew, go back. No, no, no, this is a one take shot. The guy walks out, he's bustin', this person's balls to let team down the front, and dayling off the door, you just said, you hit everybody, the black guy, the Mexican chick, the white guy.

And I think it's beautiful, number two, we're slowly trying to take that shit away from us, which is like, yo, yo, time out. This actually brings us together. You fuckers are trying to separate us. The guy's going up there on a special and busing balls like you were in the cellar. Are you in?

And it felt like I'm like, okay, this dude's having a blast and shit on my butt. That's what I wanted, man. Like, what I learned from doing comedy is that like, and I'm very fortunate that I have a very diverse audience, like white people found me after black people in Latinos, because I started doing guy code and then podcast with Charlemagne, the God, you guys know Charlemagne, of course, and one of the most brilliant radio personalities in history. And we were doing a podcast, so black

people were the ones who came out to my shows when I was in the road initially, blacks, like Latinos, and like some white people knew me from the MTV stuff. And then when I did Rogan, and when I started to have more like viral success online, that's when white people found me. So for me, I was always very comfortable also just growing up in New York,

just this is how we made fun of one another. Like my friend group was diverse, and we weren't just gonna not make fun of the Dominican kid. Like he's gonna get it like everybody else. So what I've realized is that if you're making fun of someone to their face and they're laughing, is very hard to be offended on their behalf. You know what I mean?

Like it's easy if it's just why people making fun of other people, then you go, oh this messed up. But when you're doing a joke about black people and the black people are in the audience. They're fake, yeah. Yeah. It's the people, you know what doing a joke about black people and the black people are in the audience. They're faking. Yeah. It's the people, you know, there's Andrew is the people that are watching that interaction and going, oh, that's right. He's racist. And it's like, bitch, shut up. You can't even say if she's laughing. She's fucking laughing at it. And you're pissed off. And you're,

you're like, oh, you're a white person. Make it. You're upset about this. Leave it alone. So what happened with the special? I saw the story. So you sold it, then you bought it back, you put all your life savings into it. Tell that story. Yeah, so it was originally gonna be with this streamer. And I don't even say who the streamer is because I got, I've put it this way.

Like they were really great. And the guy who initially did the deal, he was awesome. But everybody has a boss and everybody's got to look out for their bottom line. And that's why I kind of, I have empathy in that situation. So basically, they allowed me to buy it back, right? And- Same value, no premium.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So like, yeah, kind of. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. There's some technicalities with it, but they were very cool to do that. And basically, I get it back, and I think about how I'm going to do it. I'm like, do I just put it online?

I want to make my fucking money back. So I put it out with this company called Moment. And they basically will just do these livestream events, but I want it to be a live event, and they basically will just like, you know, do these livestream events, but I wanted to be like a live event and also, you know, you can continue watching it for a few weeks. And we put it out through them and it was crazy. Like, that's the importance of story

going back to our initial. There's so many people I'm sure who bought the special because of the story of like, they heard, like stories just touch us differently. Like, I actually think that's the hack to life in a way for humans Like that's our earliest version of of storing information like when you tell a story apparently We had we Dr. Huberman on the podcast and he was and I was like can you tell me about how humans react to stories And he goes I can't tell you that much but they did a study and they said that for some reason when you're telling a story

Everybody's heartbeat adjusts at the exact same time in the story. When you're giving people information, some people might be offended, some people might agree, some people might be sad, some people might be happy. But specifically when information is presented

in a story, everybody's heart goes up, everybody's heart goes down. And to me, I'm like, that's a superpower. Like, to give everybody in a room the same emotion. That's like music. So anyway, people heard about the story and they really got behind it. And it was just fucking crazy.

Like, I mean, it was just awesome. So you got, so you, I'm so much better. Yeah, I, so what's your plans with your next one? You're gonna do a similar model. What are you gonna do next? Well, now we're in this interesting situation that I don't think a lot of comics in history have been in, where it's like, I know what is worth.

So it's like, if a streamer wants to buy it, I know exactly how much I can make. Doing it on your own. Yeah, so like, now you gotta pay me way more than that, because I could get that on my own. Got it. And ideally, I'm bigger by the time I do the next one. So you're gonna have to pay me the premium to take it away from doing on my own, then

having freedom to do whatever I want. And when they buy it, they own all those jokes. Like you can't, what's the legality of when they buy? They own that performance. But you can tell the same joke again. You can, and usually they create like a little leeway. Like a window. So they go, you can't sell those jokes for another year

or something like that. But they own that performance of those jokes, which is smart for them because if not, we could, you know, I could do the Taylor Swift shit, which is like she's just rerecording her old songs so that she can own them because they technically just own that recording. So what a beautiful moment in life where, you know, when you think all of this, I'm pretty sure,

bro, when you found out when we're like, we're gonna edit your schedule, you can't put these in, you're like, so what a moment where you feel like that. I was bummed, but I wasn't at all worried that like I was bummed, but I knew that we could make our money back. I didn't know I was gonna make this much money. That's what I'm saying. So now I was crazy. Yeah, and so Andrew, because of that, now you're like, bro, what a moment we're now.

I didn't really realize how the worth of that, which I know you know your worth, but now you're like shit, I'm chilling. Yeah, you're good. Yeah, like I'm looking at this. I'm like, man, like, shepelle's underpaid, bro. Yeah, you know what I mean?

What do they pay? He's got like 60 million for like what? We got maybe a 60 million for three specials. And I'm like, you need to get more, bro. I'm not saying I made 60 million, but I'm saying where I am, you know, and yeah, put it that way. Like so yeah, you can make, you can make my,

and I own it still. Yeah. He doesn't own it. So, which not a lot of people maybe will want to do. The tricky thing obviously about Netflix or any streamer is that they, you know, like it's hard for people to get to their content. Now there's so much competition.

So it's like, how do they get eyeballs on their content? And, you know, I tell the people that I know at the streamers, I'm like, you have to be part of culture. And I think the easiest way to be part of culture is to recognize what is moving culture. And it's like podcast move culture, but what else moves culture? Like memes as silly as they are move culture.

Like the only reason I know of the show, The Mandalorian is because of the baby Yoda meme. I didn't know the show was on TV. And then I saw every fucking meme was popping up and people sent me with baby Yoda. And I'm like, holy shit. Now Netflix has this stupid thing and a bunch of these streamers have this stupid thing

where if you're trying to do a screenshot of their show, your phone goes black. Can't do it. Why would you take away the number one instrument of PR done by the people consuming your car. Can you imagine how many memes with Dahmer when Dahmer was calling out? Oh my God. That's already the number one show.

Imagine how many memes. It's like you have to let the people produce their own content which drives people to your shit. I agree. So that's just little shit. So next thing you do, would you do something like what you've held it like a three-deal type of thing? Or would that be your expectation or would you still say, yeah, I'm going

to do it myself. Maybe I do it myself. Maybe I do it with them. They would have to convince me that, you know, obviously one, I would want to pit it out the exact way that I want to put it out. That's right. Without them having any kind of control over what you put out there. So you want to have full on like Tom Cruise, Tom, but this is what I want to say.

Lemme alone, don't bother me. Okay. And I'm not doing that to be like a fucking edge lord or anything. It's just like, I test the material. Like I'm on the road for fucking two years. I see the people laughing at it. Like I know the line. I don't want to tell jokes to people don't laugh at.

Cause I love making them laugh. And I love making people happy. It's like, it's a really cool moment to do something for a living that makes people feel good. Not everybody gets to do that. And my thing is this, as an artist, this is the only art, Andrew, for instance, that you could do your art,

somebody else takes it and messes with the shit. There's no painter that finishes, and then they go, you know what, you used red here? Fuck that, taking that off. The black here, nah dude, you're the artist, Pimp. So I want, I'm in charge of this, which I think for comedy, if I'm not hands on and I had the final say,

I wouldn't put it out. Yeah, I mean, I'm meticulous with the things that they create, like with the special, it took me one day per minute to edit it. Wow. That's one day per minute. One day per minute. And the sound was designed in a way, it was one's one minute. Every cut, cut, cut, cut. And the sound was designed in a way.

It was one day per minute. And like, because I wanted you to feel what it's like to be in that room. You like the audience? That's what it was, I felt like I was there. That's the audio I heard. The number one problem with comedy specials is comics give away the special too

in order that's not as familiar with comedy, so they don't know how to create the tension in the room, and you create tension, you can do it with different camera angles. If you're telling somebody something serious, don't cut in the middle of that, push in. Like how do humans naturally react when somebody's telling like a serious moment of a story, we naturally lean in, create the push.

Yeah. So it's like, and then when you wanna create some sort of like laughing moment, and you wanna give the audience an opportunity to breathe, pull out. Show everybody else laughing as well. So like when we're looking at how to edit comedy, I'm not just looking at comedy, I'm looking at horror.

I'm like what's tension release? Hard. What do we do when you're about to get murdered? Tight, tight, tight, tight, tight, then out free, getting killed. So it's like, what are the other things that, I don't know, that utilize the same things and feelings as stand up, but aren't stand up.

So I can bring something different, you maybe never saw, and sound is the other thing. If you as a performer are giving more than the audience is giving you the person at home will feel Uncomfortable. It's the reason often oftentimes like when we watch like the late night shows and you see the audience like over clapping for like a joke that sucked You're like that's not really like something off and Kimmel. Yeah, you feel uncomfortable. You go What's going on? Yeah, and a lot of times, there's comics who are killing on stage, but they just don't make the audience right.

So at home, it looks like that person is not acknowledging a lack of response, even if they're materials. Dude, how hard comedy must have been during COVID? Like you watch somebody's show, and you're just wondering, why, what are you doing? Stop it.

This is uncomfortable. I did one spat. I did one. I don't know if you probably didn't. I did one because I just had to like, what are you doing? Stop it. This is uncomfortable. I did one pat. I did one. And you probably didn't. I did one because I just had to get up dog. I was losing my mind in LA. And I was in a room a little bit smaller than this. It was for Sean Tate Wands.

And it's dog. Camera, her, one dude. And there's a big ass TV with like 100 people that all paid. And I would say the joke and do which I know work And I'll just like this and they're like this Yeah Eight seconds later and then I'm doing crowd work on a TV. Yeah, I was about quick And you're in your big on stage too like it works maybe more for the guys who are doing like one-liners and

Stephen Wright. Yeah, Stephen Wright. Stephen Wright doesn't need an audience. Brilliant. You can just say it right into Mitch, exact. Mitch, 100%. But if you're gonna be at all animated and you're gonna be all like performing these things. Oh, this guy's Humphord Girls and jumping around and like that is all taken.

And you thrive off the energy you're getting from. Yes, yes. Like, yeah, like for me. Did you even get up, bro? Did you get up? No, not Miami. Oh, wow. That's a good look. Hang for me. Did you even get up, bro? Did you get up? No, not Miami. Oh Everyone these days speaking of being a comedian, bro Yeah, everyone these days wants to be happy about something

Whether you want to like get high and do drugs, whatever you want to chase sex Yeah, you know, just whether you're making money, business, being a comedian, right, the laughter, like getting, like doing a joke that you're working on, because it's not just getting a laugh, you sat there, you wrote it, you edit, you just kind of went mad scientist on us and you went psychogramerie, on how you generally come up

with these jokes, when you get that joke, how high of a feeling is that? I mean, Vinny too. You know what it is? It's like, for me, the high is often the pursuit. You know, we were talking about that even earlier. It's like knowing that I'm like onto something. Like when the joke is, I don't ever call a joke done, but when I'm getting in its final form, what I'm chasing in that moment is the kill.

And that's not as gratifying because I'm not exploring as much. You know what I mean? Chasing the kills dangerous because if you don't kill, now you're miserable. But when there's a new bit that I'm like, I'm like, I don't know. You know there's something there.

You're like, you're even now. You're putting it in the court, Reganon. I'm like, even now, and like, there's something there. You're like, you're even now. You're putting it in the more regular. You're putting it in the more regular. I'm like, even now, and like, there's just something so far. I've been talking, you know, I've been thinking about like the, you know, everybody's like, the Jews control the media shit. And I'm like, what is the spin I have on that? And I remember I was in, I was in, I was in fucking Florence. And I saw the Statue of David.

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Yeah. So you know what I mean? Like we don't call people ungain. You know what I mean? And in that moment I was like, yeah, the joseph control the minute. I'm like, okay, here's like a funny like angle. Like that I'm like, oh, here's a funny angle.

Like, that I'm like, ooh, this is cool to explore. Like, it's like one of these things where I'm like, it's like, it's so rare nowadays that we're all thinking about the same thing. It's so rare that everybody's thinking about. So here's something I think everybody is thinking about. And here's a fun way to address it, one that I think Jews will laugh at and without feeling like attacked and non-Jews will laugh at is like, what the fuck my dick Jewish,

man? What the fuck? So for me, I'm always, yes, you can think. Exactly. So I think there's more there, but, but that's like an example of like, like'm excited. Like I would never tell a joke to some comics and that, because that's not like a done or anything, but like, for me, I'm so excited, I even want to explore it. What is this idea? Like, how do I get into that? That's, that's the thing. Like when you write, because I, the list I'm pretty sure

your phone is just, I write sometimes, but this, when you're writing it, you're like, oh shit, like I just put it, like, no, it's gonna be there. I'm just trying to do it it just talking to people about it. Yeah, I don't know like for me It's like I now I want to know yeah, I want to know every now. I want to know more about like Jewish people like Down are you circumsized? Yeah, you want to you want to I'm sorry The skin I'm sure he's had to do it. He still has the skin and you save the high. You say tell my neck.

Tell my necklace. There it is. Little piece of Adam. I was not. That's what Ruggola is. They just wrap on men's. I'm trying to try the suit. I'm trying to put it in the suit.

No, it's giving us food. But isn't that. Isn't it fucking well? Yeah. Just a comedian. Meaning. Yeah, yeah. Like we had Antonio Brown on, right? I mean, we could talk about it.

And we're like, I don't know if you saw the interview, heard about it or whatever, but we're like, oh, this football player, I'm more than a football player. My father, it's like, all right, some people, I'm a businessman. LeBron is like, I'm not just a basketball player, but a businessman, but like there's something beautiful in being a comedian.

It's like, I am just straight up comedian. I think there's a business stuff. There's actor that's this, but how would you define yourself in that regard? I'm a comedian. I don't need comedy to be important. No matter if the less importance you put on it, the better.

I'm just a comedian. And I make dip jokes. Matter of fact, the less you think of what I do, the more I can do. Uncircumcised dip jokes. Exactly. Exactly. But you know, so it's like, the less you think of what I do, the more I can do. Uncircuitous, dick jokes. Exactly, exactly. But you know, so it's like, the more important we put on comedy,

the less we can say. You know, there's comics all the time that they're saying these things. I'm sure I'm guilty of saying as well, but like comedy is so important. It's the last batch of free speech and all these other things. And you know, without comics,

we would be would revolve into communism. And then they also go like, why is everyone starting to silence then they also go like, why is everyone starting to silence us? It's like, because you're saying you're important. Yeah, shut up. If you just say that you're a clown, you can say whatever you want.

And then if there is some truth in it, they can't help but get that in there. You think Bill Marshtill a comedian? Yeah, yeah, I think Bill is. John Stewart. John is, John, you could argue, John, I think Bill is John Stewart John is John you could argue John you could argue was so good at what he did He ruined it for everybody because John John made political comedy Seemed like that was what you were supposed to do. He was so good at it

And he's so like pure about like John stops his show and he's still like now We're gonna get these firefighters there. They're fucking pay. We're gonna get them there. Sure. Even if he's not doing it, he's about that life. So, but John was so good at the political comedy. It almost made, I think, a whole generation of people expect their comedy to be political.

When, in my opinion, like, sometimes it has to be, sometimes it isn't. I don't ever tell people what side I'm on. I don't ever want them to know. Like, cause maybe I don't ever tell people what side I'm on. I don't ever want them to know. Like, cause maybe I don't have a side. I want Republicans to be like, oh yeah, he says some shit that I, and I want Democrats to be like, oh, Shazia,

and I want them both to be upset at me. Like there's an abortion joke I do in the special, and in the comments, both people on the sides have no clue how I feel about abortion. Perfect. So it's like, to me, that's the superpower. But in order to have the superpower, you have to wear the mask.

Because if they know who you are, then they're gonna fuck with you. You know what I mean? It's like, for me, that's where you can be the most pure version of a comic. And that's what I can. And in mind you've talked about Trump, you made fun of Biden, you're just, bro, and it's good, and no one no one people ask especially me. I'm just like my cousins are liberals But hard hard core fall in the sword. They're like well, Betty. You're probably like a wall. I don't folk

I don't I'm just I'm in I'm on one of those little rap those But you know I'm just in the in the river just go I'm on the side of jokes That's it like I'm loyal I'm loyal to jokes. And if I feel a certain way about the world, I'm gonna express that. Do you think that the jokes that you're able to tell, the comedians are able to tell, you think that it's better content now with Biden or better content when Trump was in office?

That's an interesting question, because I think that, I think that people, either they're not aware of it or they're not willing to admit it, but I think that people are actually happier with Biden in office. And not right or left, I think they're happier being less engaged. Everybody's been able to kind of like disconnect a little bit. And with Trump, he has this unbelievable magnetism that whether you like it or not, you're gonna react.

The guy talks and you react. And I think what happened with that is it went Trump then COVID and we were just like sensory overload. And everything that we were told became bullshit three weeks later. You know what I'm saying? Like every little bit of information we got was not exactly true. And I don't know if you guys went through this, but I just kind of like removed myself. I was exhaustion.

I'm not reading another exhaustion. Bro, I read an article once. It was a whole article. Right? And like, I read, and it was like, you know, the ADDs kicking in, I'm like reading, and I'm like having a hypothetical fight with my wife. She doesn't even know about. And then I got to come back to the same other fucking top of the article.

Four different times I restarted this art. I get to the bottom of the article. I'm like, I fucking read that whole article. That's some shit I don't even care about. I got this. I'm a citizen of America. I know what's going on. The first fucking blurb at the bottom of the article is like,

some information in this article has been refuted, Bubba. Yeah, I don't need you to fuck it. Yeah. Put it at the top. Put it at the top. You help me talk about me in this. Put it at the fucking top. And it got damn hard.

You wasted my time. I never get that time back. I have all this new information and it's useless now. Wow. So I weirdly think, I think that like I think people feel two ways. I think people are probably embarrassed about Biden. I think people are way more entertained by Trump. I think regardless of where their political beliefs lie, and I don't

care who the fuck you are, everybody agrees with a little bit of what fucking Trump says, and everybody agrees a little bit of what buys it. There's no person that's like, I only believe the same thing. One man believed, like I don't believe in you. But I think the temperature is cooler. The tricky thing now is that but I'm so old and so obviously dealing with the men cognitive issues. Cognitive it bare minimum, cognitive issues. He can't say a number that's more than four digits.

Hey listen Andrew, two words. If it's more than four digits. Made in America. Yeah. All right. That's it. That's it. Four years of fucking breweries. Made in America. I'm too worked. Like honestly, he might be more entertaining than Trump. I really think about it. Who's the best than person?

Who doesn't best? It's Trump. I mean, you had Alec Baldwin. You had all these Frank Colliello. Who does Biden? I can't even tell you who does Biden. No, it was him on. He's a fucking cop.

He does the face swap. It's brilliant. It's brilliant. He says the same mistakes, words, and the... But then you'll be like, Andrew, like, real talk. And then you'll be like, you know, you're like, you know, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're

like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're How done? He's fucking, he does the face swap. It's brilliant. It's brilliant. Cause he says the same mistakes words and the, but then you'll be like real talk and Pat, he's talking about this. Trump had a lot of people like, man, just a sand through the Trump. I saw Rally. He's not done. He's not only running.

He's fucking coming back. You don't think Trump has the party by the balls? Pat? Who? Why? Trump. Oh, there's no question about it. Yeah, he's a, even if he doesn't win the primary, he'll don't think Trump has the party by the balls. Pat? Who? Who? Trump. Oh, there's no question about it. Yeah, he's a big guy.

Even if he doesn't win the primary, Hill Runners and Independent. That's right. There you go. That's right. So they gotta give them the nomination if they want, if they wanna win, and Republicans get organized, right?

They get in line, it's great. Here's the difference. Here's the difference. If you think about a couple things, what is the biggest difference between, so okay, so this is the question to ask, give five reasons why he won in 2016. Okay. Why he won? So you could say a person, you could say whatever, give five reasons why you think Trump won in 2016. Five reasons. All of us together.

Why he won. Yeah. Humor. Okay. Humors one. Cause the person who's going against Hillary did all that stupid. Okay. So, so, so right there.

So let's just say terrible opponent. Terrible. What else? Give another one. Why he won? Uh, the celebrity status. His, uh, okay.

So coverage. Yeah. Just news constant coverage by everybody. That one. Get the okay. Yeah, and then what else? One money. Why he why he put that one as well? I think I was money. I think there was a deep. You're I think you guys are missing a couple things. I think for something out of the swamp.

Whether it was Bernie or whether it was Trump. Yeah, just not your typical politician. Yeah, I think there is that robotic that robotic, I'm with her. I'm just a, what is, what are my, what are my inlers telling me to say? Yeah, where Trump is like, handlers, check out these hands, I'm grabbing by the pussy right now. Shit, like, it's also a lot of people who like have felt, we were talking about this, like there's a lot of people who just felt

completely forgotten and, and when you give a lot of people who just felt completely forgotten. And when you give a nod to people who feel forgotten, they can look past all the other dubious bullshit that you say, because finally you're being spoken to. Okay. Yeah. Can I give you a couple of mine? Please. That I got. Check this out. Okay. So, so here's, here's the real, if we were, if let's just say Trump right now called us and middle the podcast that guys, I've made a decision.

I want to hire you guys as our campaign manager, the four of you, you guys are helping us up. Yes, you, Malik for sure, because he's got to do Google, he's got to search them. Yeah, black guys. So here's what you got. So he said comedy, you said Hillary, bad opponent, he's a celebrity, apprentice,

you said coverage by everybody and you got money. Okay, so what's the same? He's still funny, but a little bitter. Before he was funny, he's bitter now. He wasn't bitter back then, right? He was angry, isn't funny. He was an underdog. There's a different energy between underdog coming up

versus a bitter, that underdog energy is gone. So there's no longer that underdog spirit, right, that if you think about the underdog. Oh, you're doubting? Now it's like, you dig this up, you doubt it. So does he still have the money? Yes. Does he still have a bad opponent?

He's going to go up against. Yes, there's still a bad opponent. So is he still a celebrity? Yes. Is he still going to get coverage? No. He's not going to get coverage. There's no way he's going to get the same CNN. No,

MSNBC have a mom. So that's gone. Right now, here's a couple of the things. Kellyanne Conway was one of his best fly carriers. He lost her. She's not doing it this time. She's gone. She would go on MSNBC CNN. They would invite her and she would defend him better than anybody else. That one is gone. The next thing that's gone, he said he's not coming back to Twitter because when he did the SPAC deal, I'm willing to bet.

If I gave Trump a few hundred million dollars, I'm only paying your SPAC if I tell you, one rule will give you this two hundred million dollars. Whatever the amount was that they gave him for the SPAC. You will never tweet as long, even if they let you back on, you will not use Twitter. So he said, I'm not gonna be using Twitter, just come to truth. So Twitter is gone.

Here's the other one that's gone. You ready? Is there a, was there an alternative to him at that time? Who? Huckabee, Rubio, Jebush, Scott Walker, Ben Carson, Ted Cruz, Brian Paul, Kasek, but there is an alternative today. So that is the part, and it's a real alternative that's an option, right?

You have to look at it. Does he have Facebook today? No. Does he have YouTube today? No. Does he have his daughter today? No. His daughter said, I'm not part of the campaign I'm out. So so the part that you have to kind of think about and then Schwartzman, I don't know if you guys know powerful Schwartzman, yeah, he said, I'm not I'm not supporting Schwartzman. Schwartzman is a in the financial space. Good. This guy's a Schwartzman right there. Schwartzman is the CEO of Blackstone Group.

Blackstone. He said, I'm not supporting. This guy's worth 30 billion, 40 billion. What's his number right here? Zoom in a little bit. 27.5 billion. Then this is a guy that straight up went against Rommanuel and went against,

you know, Obama and wasn't afraid. So the challenge with all of this stuff, he doesn't have the same team as he did before, and there is a real alternative today. So you don't have the same playbook today as he did in 2016. Now here's the flip side of it. So like when you're like, well,

I don't ever want people to think I'm a, where I'm at politically, let them kind of guessing game, all that stuff. Where you're like, I think Bighton's a good thing, which I understand what you're saying, but the moment McKinsey Scott left a crazy visionary like Jeff Bezos, I'm married to school teacher within a year she got a divorce, because you got tired of the boring safe stuff.

Okay. But you're still dealing with a guy that is a flippin fighter whose, you know, like he wouldn't, the level of relentlessness this guy's got, there is nobody at his level in politics. Oh, sure. Trump, just nobody at his level. He's intimidating, he'll get dirty with you, he'll talk trash to you, he'll tell you what nobody else is wanting to tell you, he'll entertain, he'll talk, he can go for hours

talking on stage without a, what do you call a teleprompter? All these other guys are teleprompter driven. They need script writers. This guy doesn't, you know, when you're saying how he did a special and he got up and he started first talking to the crowd. Good luck. Where's the teleprompter?

Have to guys need somebody write the script. They need a writer for them, committing, this guy's getting up there saying, you know, I've seen him in a private event multiple times at Marlago with the thing off and I tell you you No, Joe's two hours. Yeah, you're laughing 30% at a time 40% of time. You're literally in tears laughing I love it. You're like this. You could have been a comedian this And he just goes no teleprompter. Yeah, who can do? He's just saying there's something. Can the Santas do that? No.

He can't do that. Can Newsom do that? No. Can Biden do it for half a second? No. Can Kamala do it? Can Pete do it? Can Rubio do it?

Can Cruz do it? None of these guys have that ability to get up and light it up and 50,000 people show up. So as much as it's very easy for people to say, let it lose, you know, no way in the world all this other stuff, you have to deal with Trump. Period. So if he doesn't run as a Republican,

runs as an independent, if I'm a, like right now, the census is playing the card of just staying quiet, not saying anything back, not talking shit, not retaliating, not rebuttling. Nothing's been said yet, but he is announced that his autobiography is coming out for the Santas. Anytime you have an autobiography, like when yours comes out, we know you're running for

office. You know that true? Yeah. When your autobiography comes out, you know what I mean? I'm actually in the middle of writing. Yeah. So finally you said that. You know, you know what the touch, you know what is that's what the book's gonna be?

Here's a perfect title for your book. And I'm telling you, I think the moment I say it, the moment I say, you're gonna say that's the title. You ready? Circumcised. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha I'm gonna say that's a freaking best seller. I'm sorry. I'll be your VP. And we got a daily.

That's so freaking funny. Oh my god. How do we get a run a little heat? To what? To want to get in there and go by the way. He wants in. He wants in. Do you think he does?

You can't really want to listen. There's there's two things that never lies Man, they just never look at the guys eyes eyes never lie. Yeah, this guy wants it like you have no clue He wants that fight. He doesn't want it to be easy. He wants to go up against the guy like that as brilliant as he is as Strategic as he is he wants that. Oh, you think that fight. Oh, you think he wants, oh. I think he wants that fight. He isn't soldier, but he's a soldier. I think, you know, like, you know, how boxers get criticized for not wanting

to fight the other opponent, that they were at the, he wants to be Trump at his best. Like, he wants him. He wants the, now that's my opinion, I may be fully off. And I may be like, because if I think who he is, I don't think he wants to be a guy to become a president easily. Like, it's like, well, let me tell you how we did it. We got rid of him. We got rid of him. Oh, here's the sentence. What a lame story. You kidding me? Trump's story, like, looking, like, what just happened yesterday? We're upstairs. I'm in a business meeting. One

Colombian Sam runs in, A Guatemalan Mario runs in. We're like, oh, Mexico won their advancing. No, they're not because Argentina won two old Mexico was supposed to win two zero. Two minutes left stoppage time. You know, Saudi Arabia scores a goal. Mexico's out. And I'm like, are you kidding me?

But what Mexicans are now watching World Cup? They're done. Like they're going to be. Immediately. Like, they're done immediately. Forget about the coach got fired. That thing was, that comeback, or what just happened, that's a tough loss, right? Oh my God. Think about the most incredible losses,

like how the Red Sox came back and beat the Yankees. I don't wanna talk about that. That's a pain. You look at how Atlanta lost to Brady. Oh my 28 to 3, you think about all these games, dude, nothing comes close with what trumped it to Hillary that night. Like it's 3.30 in the morning,

you just enjoyed watching these people cry. Yeah. I did. This is just freaking entertaining. I did, bro. So I think if this guy wants to truly be a heavyweight and he wants to be like a Reagan-esque type of a guy. He's got to take out Trump.

And how? The how he's got the right people that are sharing insight on how to do it. This guy is, he's not gonna have a hard time doing it in his eyes, he's not gonna have a hard time doing it. However, so I'll give you some strategies on my opinion and then you know it is what it is. So look at, for example, okay, you walk into a room you're negotiating with an enemy, okay, and you know this guy's an asshole. He doesn't

like you. He's bigger than you and he's been bullying you and he's constantly talking shit to you. And he's been bullying you and he's constantly talking shit to you. When you walk into this meeting, you have a few different options. Option number one, beat the diplomatic. And you go in and you say, Hey, John, how are you? Everything good? Hey, thank you for making the time. It's great to be here with you. Okay. Now to him, you're kissing his ass. All right. It's fake. Number two, you show up eight minutes late.

Okay. Big dick. Yeah. And then you're like, Oh Number two, you show up eight minutes late. Okay? Big dick. Yeah. And then you're like, oh, hey, what's up? Hey, do me a favor. Can you tell them we got to leave in 20 minutes? Okay. So, what's up?

Tell me. I know you want to figure this thing out. Obviously, we have some issues here. What do you want to do? I'm not convinced you want to do anything here with us. So, go ahead. I'm all ears. Go ahead.

You can take that route. He can't come in. Be like, hey, you know, he has to send handlers to have those types of conversation. Both of them are having their handlers talk to each other, but you eventually have to face off against the guy privately and have the conversation. And he's not going to take the Mark Rubio route.

If he does, he'll get destroyed. If he takes the Ted Cruz route, he's going to get destroyed. What are those routes? Mark Rubio route was the route where he's going to take the Mark Rubio route. If he does, he'll get destroyed. If he takes the Ted Cruz route, he's going to get destroyed. What are those routes? Mark Rubio route was the route where he starts off, you know, being very diplomatic and then all of a sudden he's tries to, you know, play the game of Trump and talk shit. It's like, you're not in this league, bro. And then everybody's like, you're not, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, guns blazing and setting his argument and letting everybody know. But at the same time, given the message in a way, no,

and he's still going to need the mega voters to support him to win office. Yeah. So it is a very massaging, you know, like you have to maneuver, you have to push, you have to bully it, you have to respect. He's got his work cut out for him. But if there's a guy that could pull it off at some. He's gone, he's gone. Does it bother you that currently you can't run for president?

Does it bother who? You? Me? What a question you're asking. If I can run for president? Yeah. I don't think it bothers me. I think it is.

It's not your choice. Everything else in your life so far has been your choice. Listen, some people are put there to help somebody else do it, meaning maybe one of my kids is gonna be a president. And my job is to help shape their mindset. Yeah. Maybe I'm a joke Kennedy.

Maybe I'm a Fred. Maybe I'm a Prescott. Maybe I'm that Fred, maybe I'm a Prescott, maybe I'm that guy and I'm very comfortable playing that role. Yeah, because I'm, you know, this is a area I enjoy the Kingmaker part of the game. Yeah, I enjoyed the other night we're having a conversation till one o'clock in the morning, five hours I'm having a conversation with this guy, because I really think this guy's super capable of what he can do. We've had multiple few hour conversations sitting there talking to Jedadai, she's seen what she's doing right now, our insurance company, seeing what our guys are doing. I freaking love that part of the game.

Oh my God. But like, naturally. But a little bit. Oh, president. I would vote for it. Let me, I think you, I'll be honest. I think you could do it. Let me, let me give you one.

If you're asking me like what laws, I would change if I was, well, you can't do a constitution wise, here's what it would be. I think there are people that love America more who weren't born here. Yeah, of course. And I think that if you wanted to really still keep

the integrity of 35 years, do it 35 years from the day you came here or 35 years from the day you became a citizen, let that be the same as somebody that has lived here for 35 years. I think that law logically makes sense to me if they did something like that. That law makes sense to me. And I think being in the military should give you a little bit more incentive because you've served and fought in this place. So that should give you another, okay, knock off five years. He's Gucci. That's what I mean. Yeah. I don't know. I don't know. I mean, I know a lot of people that love America, but Pat's up there is one of the pro-American, pro-capitalist,

pro. So let's say they change it. Let's say it changes the rule. What about it? I see a smirk. If they change it. I'll be straight. This is the first time I'm talking about on the podcast like this. If they changed it, very high likelihood, I would entertain running. Yeah. So, very high. You see show face Oh, yeah, yeah I can Yo, and Andrew as a vice president I'm not I'm not

I'm not I'm not I'm not I'm not I'm not I'm not I'm not I'm not

I'm not I'm not I'm not I'm not I'm not I'm not I'm not I'm not I'm not I'm not I'm not That's interesting. That's interesting. No, you're one of the first guys that I actually like that I would say, well, I don't want you to run because I don't want them to just tear apart your family

and you go through all these things. But yeah, I get a good sense from you that you genuinely want to help. And I think that's what I got from Bernie. He was like, I didn't agree with almost any of his philosophy, but I thought he wanted to help not win. And unfortunately, you need to want to win in order to win. But that resonated with me.

I was like, I think this guy just wants to do the best thing. And maybe he and I differ in what the best thing is, but at least his heart is in the right place. And this is America. They're not going to let you change too much shit. and I differ in what the best thing is, but at least his heart is in the right place, and this is America, they're not gonna let you change too much shit. So I was like, oh, fuck with that guy for that reason. That was like a rare thing. It was also interesting that like him and Trump

resonated at the same time, which speaks to the way you were talking about earlier, which was like this dissatisfaction with the political system. And then these two outsiders, and because of the corrupt nature of the way democratic primaries work and fucking super delegates, which is like a mind boggling concept that they even exist. But you know, he wasn't able to get there and it was kind of, you could argue stolen for

him or it wasn't. I'm going to get it. But like seeing both of those people represented, it was Trump and Bernie at the same time, spoke volumes to what Americans wanted. Right? Yep. And by the way, they should have faced off. They should have faced off.

They should have faced off. I agree. Because both of them are true believers. And they should have faced off. And what is Hillary got on the way? And Biden got in both times. But what is Trump going to say about Bernie? Oh, like what can he say?

That's a thing. It's like, Trump is fascinating because, and I think Ben Shapiro put this the best. He's like politics is a mud slinging competition and Trump is made of mud. Yeah. Yeah. Everybody else is in their white suit, you know what I mean? So that mud shows up way more.

For sure. Or what do they say that, you know, never mud wrestle with the pig because you both get dirty and there you go. Pig love to be out. Exactly. That's true. Guys, go make it and real estate in New York for 50 years.

That's not true. See what happens to you. Go in the media, hook up with everybody that he hooked up with date a bunch of models, have the pressure of a father that you had with a mother who was so flamboyant and he picked up that side farmer. Have your older brother die from alcohol and then see what kind of a person you would be.

This guy is, this guy is a ridiculous guy. This, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the's shadow. As a kid, by the way, secretly, I don't know how much more resentment there is than you doing good in your life and you would have been a superstar if anybody was your father, then put a superstar as a father. That's not like an easy thing to Just like imagine you're dating your girl, your new girl or dating each other, you're going out and you just made partner at a law firm that's freaking badass in New York, they're 31, you're the youngest party

made 1.8 million last year. And you go home and your dad's there. And your wife's like, man, your dad, man, it's a freaking amazing guy and what he does. He's like, can you like relax? I'm a freaking partner. Yeah, well, your dad's $3 billion. You got to think about how annoying that can be, right?

To be able to have your father, Fred Trump, with the badass eyebrows. Have you seen Fred Trump's eyebrows? They were like caterpillars. Let's just pull up Fred Trump's eyebrows. I mean, that- The things were aggressive. This is like, one of them is running for all.

Look at that. Dude, this is like, so that's not even a at that. This is dude. This is like So that's not even a good picture of eyebrows. There's another one that's phenomenal. You could break his eyebrows I mean this is a corn roll So but but the point is look at that picture right there. Look at that picture right there. I mean you can tell It's growing a little bit. Yeah, so look at that look at it right there. Yeah, they're fucking you Trump too you got an edge among you got you got a guy and then you out do him. That's in every way. That's crazy. That's that's that's not easy to do. Yeah. So it's not easy to do. Now he's a force man. He's a force. But I'm so curious about what

about governor? No. What about going to fix California? I'm good man. You don't want to fix California? No. No. No interest. Not at all. Let me explain to you why. Let me explain to you why. And hopefully this will make like for example, Florida. Florida. You know, we got a couple of guys here that like, Pat, we all know you're going to run for them. I'm like, dude, I'm telling you right now, it would really have to be like, I would say less than one percent chance I run governor state of Florida. Okay. Why? Here's the way I processed it. Okay. If I'm gonna put the family and the kids through anything, I'm not gonna put it through for governor. I'd go help somebody be a governor.

I would help them, but I'm not gonna put my family through that part. If it is where the influence can be to really make an impact as a nation, no problem. Let's go. It's gonna be ugly. It's gonna be nasty, but we're gonna be all right. We'll prep everybody That would be more worth it than doing something that's a governor not worth it

Like even business lateral damage. It's it's just it's Yeah, it's it's not you know, it's kind of it's just doesn't expect me to know if one year is ready. I thought California I thought who was it? What was it is that election my my boy dove was was he had feelings about that who just lost what's the guy's name on Cali yeah for god in LA now is the mayor. Oh the what's his name the Rick Russo yeah he's a beast. He's a beast. Yeah he's a beast. Yeah he's a beast. Yeah he's a beast. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Who beat him. He lost to who? He lost to a lady I believe. Yeah I thought I thought LA was fed up.

By the way, they were fed up a lot of people that are friends who are in Hollywood who were supporting the sky, who were like, we want a caruso to win. And he's a Republican that ran as a Democrat. So that was a great way of doing it. But even with the recall of Newsom, he's still 163%. I mean, it's not like it was close.

You asking questions that you may even have some interest in this. Is there any interest with you with politics? No, not for comedians. No, but you listen, you've just seen what's happened the last few years with the model of a comedian winning. You know, Trump is. I don't wanna tell people what to do, man. I wanna, I love influencing culture for sure.

And I love doing that with humor. And sometimes I just tell jokes about absolutely nothing. But yeah, I love taking part in culture. That's really interesting to me. But, you know, I don't want to tell people how to live. And I want, and I'm too empathetic for like how both people and both sides want to live. Because I ultimately think that they want the same thing.

They don't just, they don't even realize it. They're trying to fight for the same thing. You know, like you can take even like the most divisive issue. It's like, you know, with the trans kids or whatever like that, like, and it's like, both sides are actually like caring about the kids. Like the liberal sides are going like, oh my God, these poor kids are having this identity crisis

and what can we do to make them more comfortable? And then the conservative side's going, oh my God, these poor kids could be influenced to do something trendy that could permanently ruin them. A lot of point. But like, both parents are concerned about those fucking kids, man. So it's like, and you'll never get a discussion

where you can just have them agree because the way that we pin things is, you know, both sides are evil and you want to destroy it whenever. So I don't know, I think the coolest thing would be able to be to have people on the podcast or have discussions, even like we're having right now. And then have people be able to go, oh shit, yeah, that other side isn't that bad. And maybe the heart's kind of in the right place, but they're just coming at it from a different

direction. It becomes very tricky. And maybe you have way more experiences from running businesses where you have to make decisions that are going to affect people. And you have to make decisions going to affect X amount of people that work for you. And they're going to disagree with it and like be upset by it. And that's a, listen, as much as we criticize politicians, much as we're like upset at them, as much as we're angry about things, making decisions is hard.

And living with the consequences of those decisions is hard. And I respect that ability, even if I disagree with the decision made because most people would prefer not to. That is a brave thing. You look at like military decisions, like you push in a fucking button and sending some guys in somewhere. That's a tough thing to do, I imagine.

That takes a fucking man to make that decision. Man, woman, I don't care whatever, when I'm saying man, I'm talking about someone who's willing to stand on it. That's a fucking tough thing to do. Now we could criticize those all we want, sitting back here, but given you are in that situation, what are you gonna do?

You're gonna freeze? You're gonna freeze? I mean, look, natural behavior, you know, most people are afraid of breakups. They're afraid of people leaving them. They're afraid of not being liked. They're afraid of people, you know, what if I lose this person because maybe they didn't have a father figure in their lives or a mom or a bad relationship with an ex who left

them or cheated or whatever it is. There's these fears that you have, right? You're gonna have a very hard time leading, making decisions if those things concern you. But by the way, Rogan said something to you that he's 100% right. Dude, things change when you have a kid. It's a very weird thing. Malik's got a kid.

He knows what I'm talking about. Things change. Two kids. Yeah,'s got a kid. He knows what I'm talking about. Things change. Two kids. Yeah. One color. No. What movie is that when a kid is like the white guy going through? What movie is it?

Oh my God. Was it me, myself and I read all three? Yeah. I thought it was another one as well that I'm trying to see what movie that was with is it George Clooney or George Clooney in that Zach Galifanakis were at the end? Anyway, there's a funny movie comedy that happens at the end.

But you know, right, maybe once, that's so interesting, maybe once you have children, you go, oh, I need to do something about this. To protect, to protect, yeah. To protect because it's natural. That makes more sense to me. I guess where I'm at the situation right now, it's like where I'm like,

I don't wanna tell people what to do. And I love this society that we've built, where we can have this fun and we can play. We can also say serious things, we can influence and maybe like through that influence, you know, who knows, I made this from silly shit about TikTok, but then all of a sudden, maybe it's a little bit of a conversation

that maybe could get it, kicked out of here, which is maybe a safer thing for America. And that'd be pretty cool. And I like playing that part. But even earlier when we were looking at 40 loss of power, the whole, you're like, you're able to be neutral, see both sides, you're willing, except think of both sides,

and you're able to reason. These are all great qualities of a leader. And where you are right now, dude, let it rip. Let life, life's gonna happen. Marriage is interesting, having kids is interesting and all of a sense, different when you have a son, it's different when you have a daughter. It's gonna be a very, very different feeling

with a daughter or a son. Those dynamics are in an age and then conversations with them. We're like, do this guy so different than this guy? And how do I lead him versus her? And you know, you. And that's scary when you have kids, like accepting the lack of influence you have over them. Cause you can't be with them every second of every day.

And they're gonna be influenced by their peers and the movie, like, do you have to just let go a bit? Can you? You don't have a choice. You don't have a choice. Right. Yeah, you don't have a choice with that. So, it's so, so you know what the number one decision is? The number one decision is who you marry. Yeah. You know, when you're, when you're talking to her, I'd wanted to, you know, say say your dating group for six months or 12 months and you're sitting there saying okay I like you were cool would you make a good mom yeah and and if you would make a good mom what would you teach my kids how would you be what would be like you know you're talking about Kelly and Conway and George Conway and their daughter

getting on videos and showing what the life looks like. First of all, you guys screwed up right off the bat when you guys don't even agree on, you know, basic politics. I mean, what are you doing? Right off the bat, you're teaching, the kid is looking at, oh, they disagree. Okay, I'm gonna lean on that.

I'm gonna lean on mom. And then boom, I come out, so the number one thing is who you married. And then from there is you being clear on seeing what your mom and dad did that you liked, you didn't like it like this shit didn't work that didn't work this definitely they work. I didn't like it, but it was very good because it worked on me. I needed this. And then eventually, and this is the biggest part, the reason why you're going to like making money is you have the resources to put a team together around you. Period. When you when you have the resources to put a team together around you. Period.

When you have the money, you get to decide what nanny, you get to decide what private school, you get to decide what sports team, you get to decide which coach you get to decide, you have resources, you have resources. The benefit of having resources to do that. And then people that are around you say, if we're working together, your kids coming around me,

you're like, I'm using an I would paddle, my kids going around you, I know what Andrew's going to talk to them about. That's your vetting the parents. Oh, 100. Yeah. Yeah. 100. 100.

You're 100%. That's interesting. Andrew, when did you get married? December 18th last year. So you're about to have your one year anniversary. Yeah. And you're to be trying to about to have your one year anniversary. Yeah. And you're trying to have a kid. We just started.

Yeah. OK. Because you're a lighting up right now, asking these questions. You could tell. He's inquisitive there. And well, it's because he's in the month. And he wants to learn from somebody who's done it.

It's kind of like what we were talking about earlier with the Red Pill stuff. Or you're like, talk to me when you get married. If you want to just be a single guy bachelor for sure, so get all in. But there's another level to it, right? Yeah. And then there's another level to you want to be a father, right? Who's the actor that you love that's going to play you in a movie one day?

John Burns. John Burns. He's the beat. He's got his podcast. It's awesome. Great. Great. And he's sitting there with, um,

Shilabuff. Shilabuff. Yeah. And he says, uh, you know, when do you become a man? When do you become a man, right? And he says, you know, when do you become a man? When do you become a man, right? And he says, you become a man when you become responsible for somebody else. This is life, right?

Yeah. So now when you're a husband now, right? Because Shultz and I used to be hanging with the twins type of thing, you know? Now you respond, now, you know what I'm saying? Now you're responsible for your girl, right? But then that's one level. Then there's another level of being responsible for a kid.

And like, there's different levels to this. So when Pat is responsible for four kids, his wife, his father lives in the house, Melvo who's the maid, and then everyone's like, like, and the people, so it's sponge it up is what I'm saying. That's for me, yeah. I mean, curiosity is what I'm saying. Yeah, for me, yeah, I mean curiosity is, I think that my most valuable trait, to be honest,

but there's just a lot you can learn from people who've had those experiences, but yeah, I'm just fascinated by it, like even getting married, like there's being in love with somebody and there's also wanting to build a family. I didn't want to just get married. I'm gonna tell my wife, I was like, whether the government knows where married or not,

I don't give a fuck. I mean, if you care. But what I'm doing to you is I'm going, I want to build a family with you. And I knew she was right. I weirdly, I went to a bookstore with my wife on her, like fourth date, actually. And I picked out a book and I and I gave it to her and it was like, pick 50. He's like so, he's in position.

Oh my God, he's so good. He's in position. Oh, he got me so good. He's like, what happened to him? I don't want to read her. Just pat us for reading. I'm like, wow, I'm a reader. Does he know the show about it?

This is mostly pictures. This is mostly pictures this one. So here's what I layered. Yeah. You have a choice. That's so funny. No, but I for real, like we, yeah, those songs, like about. You have a job. That's so funny. No, but I for real, like, we had those songs like I want to build a family.

And like I want to like, you know, I want to, I want to pass on the ship. My father gave to me, you know, my dad's my hero. So, you know, I always think about every decision I make, I have this person where I get to go, well, what would he have done in that decision? Like every tough thing that I go through, I go, well, how would he have handled it? And I want to be able to be that from my kids, you know,

but yeah, you got it. I think you'll be, I think you'll be just mind you. I'm like, I'm kind of like Adam. I mean, I don't have not kind of like I am like Adam. No kids, but just talking to you and seeing you and just you'll be, you're going to be fine, bro. And you learn as you go and I'll just go page't page 17. You'll be good. Page 17. So for a chat. Carver surgery. You'll be fine. My man.

Anyway, this has been a blast of a podcast. I'm glad we got this together. This was unbelievable. Thank you so much. Before we wrap up, can I give a just a, you know, little, little, little, uh, PSA. Uh, so, uh, love you, brother. That's nothing to do with you. So, uh, this is more for the audience out here.

But we were talking about Tate earlier. Oh, yeah. So we did a whole podcast. We've had a great experience with him. Yeah, it was huge that podcast. So that was the first podcast that I think he did right after he was banned. We had a great time. It was awesome.

Brave move, by the way. Brave move. And it worked out well. I know he speaks very highly of Pat. We speak very highly of him. I've said nothing but good things about Andrew Tate. You know, I did a, where am I going with this? We all look at podcasts we do, with jokes,

with comedians, what have you. And we all, you know, if you ever played sports and do comedy, you get a mulligan every once in a while. If you could get a mulligan, you look back and you're like, could it done that one better? Yeah. Could it done that one better? You've been there before?

Sure. So I did a podcast with this guy called Sneco. Yes. Two weeks ago, let's say, and let's just say it could have gone better. I should have been nicer, genuinely, just should have been nicer. Yeah. Be nice. And in the context of this podcast,

I was reaching and trying to find common ground this guy. And I said some things about Tate in the hopes that we were kind of bond over something. And in that process, I kind of said more than I should have. I'm not gonna get into the details now, but I said more than I should have. And when someone trusts you with something, a secret. We take that very seriously right here I take that very seriously and I said something that I shouldn't have and I know that he wasn't probably happy about that so

One of the things I learned from Tate for sure sitting down with him was taking accountability and personal responsibility One of the hardest things to do is look in a mirror and be like, dude, you fucked up, dude. Like everyone's been, no, no, you don't understand. It's like, no, I messed up real big time. So I wanted to take a second to give a me a colpon and apology. And I'm sorry to take for sure. Good of you. To Pat.

Curry. Yes, Curry. Jerry Watt. That's right there. And to Pat, because I kind of put you in the in the middle of this are Pologizing to Andrew Salts because you're in the middle of this now Vinnie I think if you if you need to apologize for taking a piece of my dick skin. Yeah So anyway that too we all make mistakes man

We all make mistakes and I think the true test of a man is to own up to a mistake and say, you know what, I screwed up and when you do own up to it and give an apology and move on. You're a good man. Last but not least apologizing to the audience out there because we do try to do the best thing possible and deliver real good product and we do value your opinions. And if there's anyone I pissed off by saying things I shouldn't have I have the deepest apologies, but Good on you. Sorry. You're a good man. Good. Not easy to do that. No, it's not easy to do and we talked about it on the flight back And we said hey, here's how it is and you know and you're you're man enough to it. So I respect that yeah, but awesome

Okay, good you're good with that. Yeah, thank you. Proud you man. Okay Anyways, this was sick. This was awesome felt like five minutes dude. You're freaking amazing I got it. You got a fan here man big fan of what you're doing I got questions for you. So one of these days you're gonna get blown The weirdest thing about sitting in podcasts like this is when you've watched someone online so many times And you're like I think I like that person, but you don't know. And then you come in and it's like, oh, we home is. And it's like, I'm also a fan. And it's also like, you know, you know, I'm pissed off

about this fucker. Because I'm like, he's fourth day. And it's beautiful. I'm like, what a bookstore. I built the whole thing. And then you just fuck, you just took that left. And I go, this is just, or help that or help that or help that. Or help that.

Because he knows he sat down with the doctor that said a story Yeah, I was so well like what book? What busted? I was invested. I was like you but y'all it was amazing. That was awesome Well, if you're gonna do your next special when you decide to do the next special Yeah, let us make an offer on it Let us make an offer on it call us, talk to us. Let us make an offer on it. Call us. Let us know.

We'd love to talk about that. But with that being said, I don't know. We don't have another podcast. We are Monday. We're with Michael Saylor. That's right. Which means on Monday, we just everybody knows, we're going to ask four questions.

Michael's going to talk for two hours. We're going to talk for 37. So just come to find out what those four questions are because we gotta talk about Sam, Bankman, Freight, and what the hell he just did with New York Times. Having said that. If you're not subscribed to P B D podcast,

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