PBD Podcast - Andrew Tate Interview - Part 1

Episode Date: June 13, 2023

Patrick Bet-David sits down with Andrew Tate in Romania while under house arrest. For almost five hours, PBD & Tate discuss the current allegations against him, life in jail, life after jail, The ...BBC interview, the Matrix attacking him, his conversion to Islam, and what's next for him. --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/pbdpodcast/support

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Before you watch this exclusive interview with Andrew Tate, there are a few things you need to know. Andrew has taken a massive risk agreeing to do this 5 hour and 20 minute interview because he is still under house arrest and under investigation, which means anything he says can and will be helped against him. Now, what did we talk about in this interview? We talked about his experience in jail with Tristan, untoold stories, religion, how this impacted his life, how emotional was it, was he scared? You're gonna see a side of him you've never seen before. We definitely talked about BBC.
Starting point is 00:00:32 BBC is not going to like this interview for many reasons you'll see why. It's a total of 15 hours that we spend with Andrew and Tristan at his compound, so a lot was covered. Having said that, there's about 45 minutes of this interview that will be censored due to the topic of discussion being around his investigation in Romania. So if you want to see that 45-minute portion,
Starting point is 00:00:57 you will need to text toward Tate to 3103401132 or click on a link below to subscribe to an email for that to be sent to you after his investigation or indictment is public. Having said that, praise for impact. You're about to be valued tamed by the one and only Andru Tate. I'm scared about the incompetence of these classes. If this guy is so innocent, how can they get you to go to the dungeon for night and today? How can they put you on housework? How can they do all this stuff?
Starting point is 00:01:44 They could do this to you. They could do this to you. They could do this to anyone. They could do to you or you or me or any man watching this, any man watching this. I wake up instinctually at 5 a.m. Because that's when they raid your house. I wake up at like 4.59. I'm just fucking shoot up.
Starting point is 00:01:56 Empires have fallen so many times. Because they thought they could get away with murder. And then eventually people said, listen, stop. You're not gonna do this to me anymore. We're not gonna take a cent. so many times, it's true. Because they thought they could get away with murder. And then eventually people said, listen, stop. You're not gonna do this to me anymore. We're not gonna take a cent. When I destroyed the BBC, my brother was celebrating. I knew it was interesting.
Starting point is 00:02:12 No, you don't beat the British broadcast in cooperation to make bulls of them like this without some new function. This is what their argument has, leaks in it. I'm just looking for guidance here. Am I supposed to roll over and fucking lose? You seem serenity don't know what to learn. I sincerely have decided that the best thing I can do is stay true to my faith and say
Starting point is 00:02:36 to the God and tell the truth and fight. So a lot has changed since the last time we sat down with Andrew Tate. Last time we sat down with him, you were the most Google man on earth. Today, effective last two days, you are now the most Google woman on earth, according to your Twitter profile. Correct. And we wanted to make sure after the BBC interview you made certain requests. You said you want to move in forward. There to be a $50,000 or C when people sit down to do an interview.
Starting point is 00:03:12 So we wanted to make sure the ESG score for this interview would be very high. We got you a $50,000 target gift card. I appreciate it very much. For people in America, we'll appreciate that. And then you also said cookie. So Adam got you socks. It's chocolate, amazing. To make sure we matched that. And then we did bring a brother as got your socks H.O.K.S. to make sure we match that and then we did
Starting point is 00:03:26 your brother as well. We did bring a bug life but unfortunately Vinnie finished it on the way here Vinnie. You know we we I'm already a girl I don't need but yeah so we respect that so but anyways look a lot's obviously changed from last time to this time last time we sat down was around nine months ago. Yeah. You had at the time been been a de-platform from every social media platform. We came out here, we sat down, we spoke.
Starting point is 00:03:50 The matrix was attacking you. You were saying matrix attacking me, matrix attacking me. From then on, Musk buys Twitter in October. He then reinstates you. In one day, I believe you get a million followers on Twitter, your upwards of a seven million today. Every other account's taken down. I think even Tristan was taken down off of Instagram. And then you know the arrest comes, the lover boy, all these articles. And vice releases the hit piece on you guys. You know they're saying what they're saying
Starting point is 00:04:20 and I'm sure we're going to get some comments on that. The initial 30-day lockup was extended twice, 92 days in the dungeon. We had a chance to speak with one of your lawyers, Tina Glandian on February 24th, was a great conversation we had with her. Then eventually you're released, the only brother come out and you specifically make it clear that you did 7,417 pushups.
Starting point is 00:04:41 Very impressive. You receive letters from thousands of fans, you read the Quran on a daily basis. At no point was any charges, anything official charge. It was all allegedly, allegedly, allegedly. And while you were away, a new star was born Dylan Mulvaney, which I'm sure you're familiar with. From there on, a lot of comments were made.
Starting point is 00:05:02 Comments of people that supported you. Comments of people that didn't support you. Logan Paul said by 2023, he will not have a sliver of relevance is what he said. KSI said, Andrew Tate snitched on himself after getting racial by Greta Thunberg. Destiny said, Andrew Tate has been arrested
Starting point is 00:05:18 for rape charges in a country specifically lives in to avoid rape charges because he was beefing with a autistic child on the internet. I think he's referencing the great Greta. Matt Bernstein advocated to get you kicked off of Instagram. And he's part of the Blue Pill community, a big famous makeup artist. Ethan Klein said, and that's why I call him Andrew, the human trafficker.
Starting point is 00:05:41 He sent me a cease and this is threatening to sue me for defamation. For saying he's a human trafficker, he sent me a cease and disassist, threatening to sue me for a definition For saying he's a human trafficker. What else am I supposed to call someone that buys and sells human beings after their will? Tate, the human trafficker, NBC in January 2023 Said Andrew Tate said he broke a woman's jaw and that his business was a scam ahead of Romanian charges Rolling Stone said meet Andrew Tate ex-kickboxerer red-pilling the angry young men of America these are people that didn't support you as these are the people that supported you tuck across and he comes out and he says on full send podcast first of all he's really smart the spirit that animates and rotate is very clear and very obvious and it's not a malicious spirit at all and rotates core messages respect for. Act like your words something.
Starting point is 00:06:27 Achieve something, do something, get the fuck off the couch, put down the porn. Go do something with your life. That's the greatest message that anyone could give. It tells you everything about the people in charge who say that's threatening. What is that threatening? The same people who live on the Pito Island with Epstein
Starting point is 00:06:44 and the same people that were friends with Harvey Weinstein We're claiming to protect women by rebuking tape. That's Takakross. Pierce Morgan who originally when he went on it was very combative It was a very good interview entertaining, but I was I was also interesting to see him trying to push you And then he flips and he says this is getting ridiculous. Romanian authorities must either charge him in his brother if they have actual evidence of crimes or release them. Musk obviously supported by releasing
Starting point is 00:07:11 a restaurant account like this. Jake Shield said people are freaking out about young boys looking up to Androtate, but totally fine with young girls looking up to Cardi B and the Kardashians. And obviously Aiden Ross, Red Bull Community, Joe Rogan, I can go on and on and on about a lot of things that's being said. We watched the BBC interview and we'll talk about
Starting point is 00:07:30 BBC here in a minute because I have some questions on that as well. But the first thing I want to ask you is, you know, nine months where we were at then September to where we are today. A lot's changed, how do you feel with everything that's going on and tell us a little bit about your current state today? Yeah, there's a very strange sense of terror that comes from knowing exactly what's gonna happen to you. There's a strange sense of calm that comes from it also, but in the middle of the night when you can't sleep, sometimes you feel happy knowing what they're trying to do to you and sometimes you feel terrified knowing what they're trying to do to you. I think I'm very happy every single podcast I did previous to this, I hammered
Starting point is 00:08:04 the point home and I made it very clear that they had the intention of trying to put me in jail. I said, there's three lives. They try and cancel you and slander you and destroy your name. They don't just want you to disappear from the internet. They went to disappear from the internet in a cloud of shame. They have to shame you, which is why they chose the crimes they did for me and that's why they usually choose to crimes they choose because it's heinous.
Starting point is 00:08:23 They want to shame you and they want you to disappear with your head facing the ground and never pop up again. Obviously they attempted to cancel me and I became more famous than ever before. I even said to you on your podcast and I said on other podcasts I said I think they made a mistake. I think when you have power and you overuse it, what happens is a rebellion. That's how a revolution starts. When you have power you have to be very, very careful with how you use that power.
Starting point is 00:08:44 The second you overuse it, there's a revolution, and we're in Romania, so they know all about that. That's exactly what happens. And I said at the time, I think I was a mistake. I think they made a big mistake canceling me the way they did. And then the second time, the second life, which I described as they try and put you in jail for no reason, here we are in the current scenario. I knew it was going to happen. And the third one is they put a bullet in your head. So we're gonna have to see how the second life plays out. And yeah, I mean, when this is all over and I win the court case, I get the not guilty.
Starting point is 00:09:14 I won't be smiling. I'll be walking out the court room with my head on a sliver. That's the guy in the life I'm living now. I'm gonna be thinking, oh, okay, so their second attempt failed. Now what? Do I wanna fly private anymore? Do I wanna go that place anymore? You start to think about these things.
Starting point is 00:09:29 Do I wanna do these things? Law billionaires dying in plane crashes, it's strange. So it's scary, regardless of how it plays out. And I guess you just have to go with the punches and see where it lands and go out as a plan for me and for all of us and we're just gonna see how it ends up. Foul de Sclosure, you don't have any suicidal thoughts. I wanna make it very clear and I make it clear and God has a plan for me and for all of us and we're just going to see how it ends up. Full disclosure, you don't have any suicidal thoughts.
Starting point is 00:09:46 I want to make it very clear and I make it clear on absolutely every single podcast I would never kill myself. I don't care what they say, I don't care what video they show you. Never under a circumstance what I kill myself is wrong. Never. I don't care if they put me in back in the dungeon solitary confinement by myself with the rest of my human years, I would never kill myself, ever, ever. So if that ever happens, God forbid, do not believe whatever garbage they tell you, the chance of me killing myself is precisely zero.
Starting point is 00:10:12 And you had this complete level of certainty that this is exactly how it would play out. You've said this on umpteen podcasts, that this is their agenda. They have to damage my influence. They have to damage my influence. They can't sit there and let me be influential because I'm saying things that they don't like me saying.
Starting point is 00:10:29 And there are people sitting around going, he's saying things counter to our message and counter to our an area of get rid of it. And they have a pretty standardized playbook. And this is probably one of the first times in history with our playbook, just isn't working. Canceling, we're still around. Oh, well, lie about him in the news,
Starting point is 00:10:42 just say he touches chicks. Well, no one believes it I'll all the comments are on his side everyone's calling those liars. Okay, then do it again Then do it again make up a new girl then do it again find someone else Yeah, and they keep attacking me with the same weapons, but the bullets are bouncing off and that doesn't give me a sense of calm That doesn't make me think ha ha and invincible. It makes me think oh It makes me think oh because human life is cheap at the top. It's very cheap. Does a make you want to sit on the sidelines and be quiet
Starting point is 00:11:10 and just kind of live a life with your family, your kids, does a make you want to do that? Maybe maybe all these attention is actually not a good thing. It's interesting, because sometimes I analyze myself and think, why don't I just do that? Why don't I just disappear? You know, I don't need money. I don't need fame. Why don't I just do that? Why don't I just disappear? I don't need money, I don't need fame, why don't I just disappear?
Starting point is 00:11:29 And then you have to, I was saying this to my brother and he was like, well, Genghis Khan didn't need Vienna. Some people are just wired that way. Vienna's a long way from Kathmandu. Sometimes that's just the way it is, or Ulam Batar, I apologize to Capital of Mongolia. That's just the way it is, or Ulam Batar, I apologize to capital of my building. That's just the way some people are. If I see injustice and if I see things which I believe to be false, I feel like I am obligated to say the truth. I can't explain why, even
Starting point is 00:11:56 at my own detriment, what am I doing this for? It's to the detriment of my life. And I've had these conversations at length with the people close to me, and we're all saying the same thing. It's always been the same way. Humanity's always been the same way. There's been a select, small, few good men up against evil. And evil always outnumber you.
Starting point is 00:12:17 Evil always has more money than you. They always have more power and more influence than you. If you play any video game, when you get to the end boss, he always has more life than you. He always has more hit points, but you're the good guy. And it's kinda like, it's never been any different at any point in human history.
Starting point is 00:12:31 There's been the good guys up against the forces of evil, whatever they were of the time. And you've always been outnumbered and you've always been supposed to lose. So you consider yourself the good guy in this situation. I think that truth is instilled by God in all of us and I think if you tell the truth, you're a good person. So who do you think is the good guy in this situation. I think that truth is instilled by God in all of us, and I think if you tell the truth, you're a good person. So who do you think is the bad guy?
Starting point is 00:12:48 You know, everyone uses they, then, then, they're after me. Who's the bad guy? Well, in some saying, who, I will say, what I will start by saying is what they do. And what they do is they control information. And we now live in information society, and by controlling information,
Starting point is 00:13:02 they control how people think and act and react to things. That's all they have to do. They have to control information and they have to be very selective with what they allow you to talk about and what they allow you to discuss and what they don't. Now once they can do that they can keep you bickering about garbage and they can control the sense of information and then they run the world. So having all the information controlled and having this hard barrier on what can be discussed that's how they can report absolute fallacies.
Starting point is 00:13:26 I think now it's been a couple of years, we can probably talk about it. They sirep the world into believing they should be afraid of the common cold. They sirep the world into this. And if you think about how difficult that would be to do, how difficult it would be to sirep the entire population of Earth. Well, what you do is you just lie on repeat and you don't allow anyone to say anything counter to it without
Starting point is 00:13:47 Hurting them the same way I've been hurt and you just sire up on It's actually amazing because now I use that exact same sire up on people. I love it I love it So when I sit with someone who's not matrix mind when I sit with someone who is matrix mind? They're going to BBC walked in here. I'm like do you all have your vaccinations? Social distancing 100 Social distancing. 100% Social distancing please. And then look at me like I'm crazy.
Starting point is 00:14:10 Well, how am I crazy? Two years ago, you were telling me to do this. Now when I repeat your own worldview, do you, I'm crazy. Well, then I'm crazy. Guess what? You're a fucking liar. Because you lied the whole time.
Starting point is 00:14:21 So either you're a liar or I'm not. You know, how could I be nuts? Put your fucking mask on. If I ever talk to any of these clowns again, they're going to be fully masked up. And I refuse. I don't care if you've had two booster jabs. No, I want all six. All six injections. I want paperwork or gift. Oh, you're not coming in that house. I'm scared of COVID. It's dangerous. I believe the mainstream media. I'm scared. This word you keep using. Sayap, I've never heard this word, it's short for psychological operations.
Starting point is 00:14:47 Correct. Break that down. What exactly is a sayop? Yeah, a sayop is the matrix as a whole. Does a psychological operations are constant? They constantly decide how they want you to think and what they can do to make you believe that, right? There's a whole bunch of them they do.
Starting point is 00:15:03 But it starts with tolerance. That's what I don't like about this whole guise of tolerance. It's not that I'm an intolerant person, it's not that I'm a bad person, it's not that I want to hurt other people. But when they keep pushing tolerance, what they're trying to say is have no standards or barriers or parameters or anything. That's what they want. You have to be tolerant, tolerant of what? Tolerant of having your shop set on fire, tolerant of your kids being taught things you don't want, tolerant of crime, tolerant of your house, tolerant of what?
Starting point is 00:15:27 You're not allowed any hard barrier or any hard parameters as a man anymore. That's why they push tolerance. That's the beginning of it. That's the first stage. Once you accept absolute tolerance, well then it's the end, isn't it? I'm tolerant of everything. I'll eat the bugs. Sure.
Starting point is 00:15:40 You're tolerant every day. I'll tolerate everything. I'm tolerant. Sure. So when I say things like I'm intolerant in certain things, and people think that's bad, no, you need to have standards and parameters. And that's one of the reasons they also attack me.
Starting point is 00:15:50 I say that men should be allowed to have standards and parameters in a relationship and in their lives. We should be allowed to decide who we just want to marry, and we should have standards for her. They have standards for us. We should allow ourselves to have standards for her. We should have standards in what we'll accept from a government, and standards in what we'll accept from a police force we should have standards as men
Starting point is 00:16:07 But they're trying to erode all of that because once that's gone Then your brain is completely empty and then once your brain's empty They can just plug in the slave program and then then it's over right you're a tolerant person You're a tolerant person good. You're a good slave slaves are exceptionally tolerant So the shirt you wear is what escaped the the slave mind. Resist the slave mind. What does that mean? It's a better word, resist. Resist.
Starting point is 00:16:29 But I want to do this before we get into, because we got five hours ago. We got plenty of time to get into a lot of different topics. So one, I do want to talk about BBC. The handling of the interview, I want to get your thoughts on it. I know there's been reactions, but I want to go a little bit deeper into it. Because I want to compare how your start with the interview with BBC Startup versus Philip
Starting point is 00:16:47 Skullfield versus Mosk. I got all the first questions we'll cover that. I want to talk about media. I want to talk about your evolution of your faith, atheist, Christian, Muslim, and then some of the things that's going on with politics right now. You know, maybe a little bit of Romeria, you know, Trump. We'll cover what you're talking about with, different things, it's funny, you're saying monopoly
Starting point is 00:17:09 on power, monopoly on power, if you use it, now YouTube's turning around and saying, hey, you can talk about the election, we're no longer gonna give the strike, so that doesn't work forever. First thing I wanna talk about, I think the audience would like to know, for you interested, 92 days in the dungeon,
Starting point is 00:17:25 you're in jail, your experience in there. We keep hearing about it, we read about it, but what was it like for you guys being in there? So I'll start by saying, and I have to make this clear, that the staff in the jail were certainly nice to me. They were very apologetic. The vibe was apologetic. Nobody was really treating me like a criminal.
Starting point is 00:17:46 There were a few guys who were icy cold, I guess you could call them. They like to think of themselves as professional, but they were just inhuman. But over time, they warmed up, and I was exceptionally nice also to all the staff. Jail was terrible. I'm going to start by saying Jail was terrible, and I was miserable inside of the jail cell. It's a good thing depression isn't real because I would have been depressed. But I think in life that you get what you give,
Starting point is 00:18:11 and I want to feel happier, so I try my very best to make people happy. So when the old lady would bring me my food, I would sit and say, oh, this is the best food I've ever had. I've never had food this good. Did you cook this? I thought yesterday was the best, but you managed to surpass it again.
Starting point is 00:18:24 How'd you do it? What's the magic ingredient? And I ended up making friends with them, and like I had grandm good. Did you cook this? I thought yesterday was the best, but you managed to surpass it again. How'd you do it? What's the magic ingredient? And I ended up making friends with them. And like, I had grandmods in there, the old ladies cooking the food. And by trying to make people happy and smile all the time, I started to feel a lot happier.
Starting point is 00:18:35 But it's kind of scary. And I think the scariest thing about jail was uncertainty of it all. They would have said to me, you're in jail for 92 days, or even five years. You've got five years. Cool, I do my time. But when you're nabbed and thrown in a cell without charge
Starting point is 00:18:49 You're like well how long is this my life? Is this it now? Is this the end of the story? I'm just in this cell and I was picked up on 29th of December I went through this quick court case like I said I'm inside of the the jurisdiction of Romania so to be very careful of what I, because the cases on going and we're in Romania, and I can't leave Romania. But obviously, Romanian court is in Romanian by law. So you're marched into this room. Everyone speaks a language you don't understand
Starting point is 00:19:13 for 15 minutes, and then you're marched off to jail. You're like, what even happened? What even happened to me? And they said, oh, here's the paper that explains it. I was like, that's in Romanian. And they said, oh, don't worry, you'll get translation to English by law. I was like, okay, that's fine. But because I was picked up on the 29th of December and there was New Year's Eve in holidays, it
Starting point is 00:19:29 was two weeks before I even knew why I was in jail. Two solid weeks, I'm in jail. I no one told me in English why I'm in jail. I had no idea what the chain they do that by law. You get it on the piece of paper in English. But it's translation. It's holiday. We need to find a translator that is a delay, and you speak zero Romanian. Zero. So they said, oh yeah, human trafficking. What do you mean human trafficking? Who?
Starting point is 00:19:52 When? What? What is this? Two weeks before I finally got a piece of paper, and then I realized what garbage it truly was. I mean, I mean, it was garbage. Well, it's like, this is complete garbage. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:01 So, yeah, I have endless stories from Jail. It was certainly, I don't from Jail. It was it was certainly I think I don't think Jail teaches you much new what it does is confirm everything you already know. It confirms everything you know about the reality of the outside world that you need to be physically strong so that you're not attacked by others and mentally strong so you're not attacked by yourself. You need to you learn who's on your side and who isn't. You learn who's a coward and who's not.
Starting point is 00:20:27 You learn who's an opportunist and who isn't. Your circle, you certainly learn a lot about the people around you when you go to a jail cell. That's for sure. But I remember it was New Year's Eve. When I was first picked up in the 29th of December, I was very sure I'd be out in the frowse. So there's no way they're going to keep me. For what? Like, this doesn't make sense.
Starting point is 00:20:47 So finally, near Zeev rolls around, and I'm sitting in the jail cell by myself. And in Romanian jail, you don't leave the room. It's not like an American jail where there's a yard or anything you're stuck in the room. It's three by four and that's your existence. You just stay in the room. You buy yourself a 20-foot prison. At the beginning, I was by myself. And you're stuck in this room, and that's your existence. You just stayed in the room. You buy yourself? 24 hours a day. At the beginning I was by myself.
Starting point is 00:21:07 And you're stuck in this room. And I'm sitting there, it's New Year's Eve. And there's a very faint speaker, maybe way down the hallway. The guards must have been having a little party for New Year's Eve. And there's this awful song. It's called the ketchup song. I don't know if you know what it is. I don't want to sing it.
Starting point is 00:21:24 But it goes, hey, aha, aha, aha. Of course. catch-up song. I don't know if you know what it is. I don't be it. This can't be the end of my life. Even the cockroaches all over the walls didn't celebrate. There's maybe 15 cockroaches on the walls, right? And when it struck 12 and the fireworks went off, I kind of like, well, who's my friends in here? The cockroaches. I looked at that and even they didn't. It's like, well, that's new years.
Starting point is 00:21:59 It's funny because before that, a couple of days before that, we interesting we're discussing, do we want to do new years and Dubai? Do we want to go Korshival? Shall we go Miami? We're all arguing, oh, that will be boring. Now, that's too far.
Starting point is 00:22:11 We had all these grander plans. So finally, we decided to go to Dubai. We were in Checker Public at the time and we decided to go to Dubai. And I said, let's stop in Romania so I can repack a suitcase. That's it, that's the only reason. That's the only reason.
Starting point is 00:22:23 So Jet, left Prague, landed in Romania. My jet was still on the runway. Came here overnight to pack suitcase, spent the night, spoke to Greta with the pizza box, and five a.m. they go before I flew back to Dubai. So that was my visit. The infamous Greta pizza box, such a way. Greta pizza box. How much you think there's anything linked to Greta? Is there anything because of timing of it? Yeah, I don't think she specifically said it. Of course. But there are certainly people within the matrix machine that you can't attack without catching a flag for. There are certainly protected people. It's absolutely not only a club and you're either in the club or you're outside the club. She's certainly in the club, right? So
Starting point is 00:23:01 if you are, if you say certain things about certain people or you get a beef with X amount of people or you discredit a certain person, they're going to try very hard to teach you a lesson for doing that. And you can see very clearly who's in the club and who isn't by the Phillips-Co-Field situation. This is a man who has groomed boys and had sex with them, but he's in the club. All of the media headlines after two days are, let's have compassion, feel sorry for him, his mother's upset. They've attacked me for 14 months, day after day, after day, and they relentlessly attack me.
Starting point is 00:23:36 Nobody talks about my mental health, nobody gives a shit how I feel. I didn't do any of the things he did. He's actually done things. I haven't done anything. But when you're in the club, you're protected by the media. When you're not in the club, you're attacked by the media. And that's how it simply works.
Starting point is 00:23:48 You're either on our side or you're not. But to join their side, you have to sell your soul. Your sanity has a price. Your sanity is for sale. You have to sell it. You have to come along with your sanity. Take out your mind and say, here you go. Take my sanity.
Starting point is 00:23:59 I'll take 35 million. Yes, that is a woman. Yes, protect me. It's insane. And the reason these people join these clubs is because they know they're doing bad things and they feel that they need protection. The reason I stand up and argue against all this shit is because I know I have, I don't have skeletons in my closet. You think I'd be on the internet talking like I talk and fighting the matrix, I might have skeletons in my closet and I was actually
Starting point is 00:24:18 a bad person? I've been investigated as deeply as a person can be investigated by multiple federal agencies for 14 months. I was locked into jail cell and 2,000 people I know was called. My barber, my old housekeeper from when I lived in England nine years ago. My gardener I used to have and another country I lived in. Everybody was called. And people were offered bribes effectively. The media are calling girls saying, if you have a bad story to tell about Andrew,
Starting point is 00:24:45 we can pay you $30,000 if you have a bad story. That's a bribe. That's a bribe. And they still couldn't find anyone. Still, I've been investigated to a deeper level. The 99.9% of people you cross on the street. And they're saying I'm guilty, I'm a bad person. You go get 20 men off the street
Starting point is 00:25:00 and put them through what I've been through. You'll find more crimes than you've ever found with me. Absolute clown world. It's insane. And if I was part of the club, none of this would be happening. The media would be on my side. They would be hitting me this hard. They wouldn't be lying about me. All I had to do was sell my soul and sell my sanity.
Starting point is 00:25:14 And I refused. And they're trying to punish me for it. That's what's happening. It's funny. You say this. When we watch the BBC interview with Musk, right? And he goes up and the guy opens up the question with, why did you agree to do this interview? He says, well, I don't know. What's the name of the BBC interview with Musk, right? And he goes up and the guy opens up the question with, why did you agree to do this interview? He says, well, I don't know what's the name of the BBC
Starting point is 00:25:29 and he's trying to mock them and all this stuff. And there's a part of it where he calls them out for the mistakes they made. And if you go to the bottom of the interview on BBC, you'll see comments section saying, why'd you cut that out? Because Musk puts it on Twitter, but they didn't put it in the interview. Then you watch the interview with you.
Starting point is 00:25:46 The first question they asked you was, what's the first question? Hey, you've been accused of serious grace or something like that. You know, right off the bat they asked that question of you. And then you see the interview, Lucy Williams-I believe her first question was, you're facing some very serious allegations. Have you raped anybody? That's the open question that they ask you and the video they put up, the first one they take it down, the second video they put up, that's 12 minutes like the highlight one, the
Starting point is 00:26:18 comment section is open, there's 80,000 plus comments there, then you look at Philip Skolfield. You just brought a Philip Skolfield for people that don't know who Philip Skolfield. Do you mind explaining to people who he is? Yeah, he was a TV presenter in England. He was very famous. He ran the morning show. And he was grooming children for a very long time and all the staff knew about it.
Starting point is 00:26:35 And the people who worked on the show with them were being groomed by him and everybody knew. And it was all a big ha ha joke. And now he's come out saying, oh, please don't pick on me. I feel sad. And the media is saying all these the guy alone He is when you go look up as Wikipedia it says he rose to prominence as children's
Starting point is 00:26:51 BBC Continuity presented from 85 to 87 Then went on to do programs on BBC and ITV For going live this morning dancing on ice all star mr. And. the cube and a bunch of other things, and they interview him. While he's going through the mess, after 27 years of being married, this one guy that he groomed since 10 years old, his name is McGreevy, I wanna say, something McGreevy,
Starting point is 00:27:18 that he's going through the process of Matthew McGreevy, they met at 10 years old at a theater group. At 15 years old, Philip follows him on Twitter. While the kid is 15, he follows him on Twitter. The guy celebrates it. Long story short, Ruth Langsford, they work together with. She follows the complaint. Then right after following the complaint, McGreevy gets fired, then he has to take a break.
Starting point is 00:27:41 And he comes out after 27 years, telling his wife, you know, and I'm gay, I'm coming out of the closet, he's got two daughters, but there's a part of it where Matthew calls his wife and says, hey, your husband and I had an affair together. When I was 19 the first time in 20 and nobody knows if it was before or not. The interesting thing about him is his brother Timothy Skolfield, I don't know if you know about his brother. Oh, what the one who's in jail for being a pedophile. What's convicted of 11 sexual offenses involving a child between October 2016 and 2019, including two sexual activity with a child? Here's how the interview started.
Starting point is 00:28:14 First question, the guy asked him. He says, you've had quite a week. How are you? Open question. On the way. Versus the question they ask you on the opening, right? And then he turns around and says, the media's interest in the affair was motivated partly
Starting point is 00:28:29 because of homophobic, alleging that an affair with a much younger woman would have not generated such a scandal. So he gets protected. And he says all those people who write those stuff, today everything that there's actually a person on the other end, right? This is prumable. This is the part where even when somebody's watching you and saying Why are they taking him to court? Maybe he did something. Why did they can Trump to court? Maybe he did something?
Starting point is 00:28:55 Why they taking this guy? He must have done something. There must be something there, right? It's stuff like this BBC does a BBC you're watching this right? I want to kind of remind you of your mission statement that you have on your website. We're going to put the link below to your mission statement. You can go find it. Here's what your mission statement is, BBC. This is why you've lost some credibility the last couple years.
Starting point is 00:29:14 To act in public interest, serving all audiences through the provision of impartial, keyword, impartial, high quality and distinctive output and services which inform, educate, and entertain. You say you inform, educate, you entertain, yet you conceal, misinformed, and your content's quite frankly boring, you're cherry picking on people that you're talking to. So a message like that gets the average person to say, everything with you is allegedly.
Starting point is 00:29:42 Everything he did is proven. His brother is proven yet, let's leave him alone. Poor guy, let's target him. This is where their argument has leaks in it. Some of it like you can tear it up. Absolutely. Philip is part of the club and I'm not. And this is the thing.
Starting point is 00:29:58 I'm a mentally resilient person, right? 14 months, they've attacked me. I'm not going to sit and complain about that because that's not how I operate as a man. 14 months they've complained about me. If you look in, if you type, if you Romania, human trafficking, you type in any of these things,
Starting point is 00:30:11 my name comes up, my face, I'm a bad person. I've lost all my bank accounts, I've lost all my social media accounts, I've been vilified all across the matrix in every single possible way. They print my face every single day with something negative next to it, date. Nobody gives a shit about my mental health, right?
Starting point is 00:30:24 Because I'm the enemy. And what's scary about this is They print my face every single day with something negative next to it date nobody gives a shit about my mental health right because I'm the enemy and what's scary about this is Lucy Williams soon herself. She was Begging me for an interview the BBC were begging me for an interview I don't need any of these people the only reason I even sat down with the BBC is because they were begging me I can go and just say my own words and get plenty of views right but the whole time I was in jail They're begging me for an interview. Can we speak to them on the phone? Maybe you can give an interview from jail. Can we have an interview?
Starting point is 00:30:48 Please, please, please, please. And I was saying, why do I want to talk to the BBC? And the BBC were saying, no, we don't want to do a hit piece. We want to come across. We want to be in part. This is what they're telling me. We want to be impartial. We believe there's a side of the story that hasn't been told.
Starting point is 00:31:02 We're really interesting and we're really interested in some of the, all let's say, I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say,
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Starting point is 00:31:21 I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say, I'm list of questions. That's not who I am. I don't have to script. I never asked for a list of questions. They sent me a list of questions. Here's what we're going to ask. It's about his mental health. It's about the Romanian justice system. It's about the fact he hasn't been charged. His liberty's been deprived. All this stuff, and I thought, well, that's kind of interesting. Maybe it's a bit interesting. And the matrix is obviously printing lies about me. And these are some interesting questions
Starting point is 00:31:40 from the matrix of the first time ever. Okay, they walk in here all smiles and happy, all smiley faces try to take me off guard. I already had my list of questions, right? It was all going to be nice and easy. I sit down and they instantly attack me. They put the cameras on first and they attack me, expecting me to stutter and make a fool of myself. It's kind of like they tried to suck her punch me. I'm into club and they're my friend shaking my hand and they tried to hit me and knock me out. And this is the thing that's so amazing about it. Yes, I destroyed the BBC. I'm in the club and they're my friend shaking my hand and they try to hit me and knock me out.
Starting point is 00:32:05 And this is the thing that's so amazing about it. Yes, I destroyed the BBC. But of course I did because I'm smarter than all of them. But why should I have to rely on my wit and intellect to destroy BBC with their research team and their plan, their deliberate plan to try and annihilate my, not only my credibility, but my life.
Starting point is 00:32:23 They are trying to put me back in jail, these people. They're not dishonest. They're genuinely evil and they don't give a shit. And so why should I even sit there and entertain them? I believe I could slip every single sucker punch. They throw at me for the rest of human time. I could sit with any of these clowns and a matter of who they sit with,
Starting point is 00:32:39 with their research team, whatever garbage they come up with. I'm like a fool of all of them. But why am I even entertaining them anymore? What was the point? That was the last chance I gave mainstream media. They lied for months to get that interview with me. Completely dishonest, head to toe. And like you said, they sit with Philip, are you okay?
Starting point is 00:32:53 Are you okay? We heard your mums upset, that poor old lady. Maybe everyone should stop talking about it because his mums upset. Let's not talk about anymore, because his mother's old. You're either part of the club or you're not. You have to sell your sanity nowadays.
Starting point is 00:33:04 If you sell your sanity, you're afforded protections. That's the reality of it because if you're a sane thinking person, you don't buy their bullshit. And that's what upsets them. They don't want anybody who thinks of themselves. They need you to not believe exactly what's on the television screen. Believe in COVID. It's COVID now. It's COVID now. Oh, Putin's invaded Ukraine. Putin's cured COVID now. Now it's insane. Till the next thing comes. It's absolutely awesome. Did any of the questions that they sent you ahead of time?
Starting point is 00:33:31 Zero, by the way, we didn't, there was no question. No, that's not how you operate. That's not how we operate. What's so ever? Did they ask you any of the questions they said they were gonna ask? Zero, they start with an attack and it became a battle instantly. Did they ask you at any point what gel was like?
Starting point is 00:33:44 Zero. Your mental health was like. Zero. Your mental health was like. Zero. You completely missed the mark. When everyone wants to know what was jail like. But they don't even ask you that question. But this is what's so interesting about it. These people are so detached from reality.
Starting point is 00:33:57 Because they are genuinely detached from reality. They think that finding a video I made eight years ago, a four-hour speech I made eight years ago, and finding one line of it without context that can be misconstrued, they think that's sitting down with me and saying that to me is an aha moment. Nobody cares. Because you're taking out of context one, and I said you're taking things out of context, because I'm not taking out of context, I said if you're presenting it without context, that's taking out of context. That's what it is. You're lying by omission. I said that to her after the camera's off and she looked at me because she didn't understand when you omit Details when you refuse to put in all of the details. You can lie by including one detail which may happen to be true
Starting point is 00:34:37 You could tell the truth and miss all the details around the truth and you are lying by omission You're lying by omission and you're lying by omission. And you're sitting here saying, oh, you said this eight years ago, nobody cares because they know me and they know I didn't mean it in that way. And they know it's taken out of context. And they know that it's an old video on the internet. And it's not even a home moment they think it is. But they just want to sit with you for an hour, attack you and attack you and attack you, wait for you to make one mistake. If I would have stuttered or made a single mistake, that's the only three minutes they would have shown. That's all they want. They want that one hour, then they take the little bit. With me, they cut it down to 12 minutes, they look terrible
Starting point is 00:35:11 on all of it. But if I were to make a single mistake, it would have been the only bit they shown. That's all they care about. Fake news. Did you tell them, did you say, I'm only doing this if I'm able to record as well? I said that. I know that's what happened with Trump as well a couple years ago. I didn't even tell him, I just recorded it. Okay, so they didn't know you were recording. They didn't know I was recording until afterwards, and then I said, that was know that's what happened with Trump as well a couple of years ago. I didn't even tell him. I just recorded it. Okay, so they didn't know you were recording. They didn't know I was recording until afterwards and then I said,
Starting point is 00:35:27 that was dishonest, I'm gonna release the whole video. You told them before you released it. I told them. There is no contract or agreement with BBC. No. Nothing was signed. It was just simply an interview. Okay, because I think that was very important when you released it for people to see what fully was said versus...
Starting point is 00:35:44 And by the way, you know the Phillips School Field that interviewed that they put up, the 12-minute one that just came out, you know the comments are turned off. Of course they are. The comments are turned off, yours are turned on, his is turned off. Of course.
Starting point is 00:35:54 And who knows, many reason why they would do that. But go back to VBC. So, okay, they come, they wanna ask the questions of you. For some of the people that maybe aren't following the story closely, but they know who you are. We're in the car, we're driving. And a lot of people are asking questions, there's no, we ask the drivers, okay,
Starting point is 00:36:11 are you going to takes place? I don't know, we're going to take place. And he says, who's Tate? Oh, I'm Dirtate. Oh, tell us about Andrew Tate. Well, this is, okay, what kind of a guy you see? He's actually really like him. I say, why do you think he's going through
Starting point is 00:36:22 what he's going through right now? Oh, it's because it's always because of money. Okay, so we're at a different restaurant So tell us why you're going through this why is it going everybody saying a similar thing about this right? But for those who don't know There's three different camps. Yeah, the camp that already sees you guilty It doesn't matter what they read so for example this story here, you know from BBC came out just last night 1030 not a what they read. So for example, this story here, you know, from BBC K. Mahat just last night, 1030, Andrew Tate choked me until I passed that UK woman claims, right? This is Alice, another anonymous name, just like Sophie,
Starting point is 00:36:51 right? But there's three camps. There's those that say, well, look, I'm already thinking his guilty. I don't like him. Anyways, I need anything to get me to think his guilty. Whatever it takes, I don't have to, I don't have to do my undudiligence. I just have to do anything. Then there's a camp that's a die-hard fan. There's nothing you can do that they did wrong. You can, you know, and their eyes are going to be wrong. Then you have to people in the middle
Starting point is 00:37:14 that are the reasonable ones that are saying, you know what? Let me look at this. What about this? What about that? The people in the middle may say the following question. They may say, and I may have asked this question from you last time as well. They may say, Andrew, okay, if this guy is so innocent,
Starting point is 00:37:29 how can they get you to go to the dungeon for 92 days? How can they put you on house arrest? How can they do all this stuff? If your somebody that was born in US, you lived in UK, how come somebody else isn't coming to bail you out? You got different lawyers. How is it that they can keep doing this to you if you're not guilty? What do you say to those people? Yeah and once again I have to be careful what I
Starting point is 00:37:51 say because of the court case but Romania has a law or the law in Romania is basically if you can prove to a judge that it might have happened they're allowed to hold you up to six months during the investigation stage. If I was guilty of anything I would have been charged long ago. And we're going to talk about charge as soon, because I still believe that it had attempted to charge me. But we're now approaching the end of the six months they can keep me under a form of arrest for without charge. Typically in Romania, when I was first arrested, the guard said,
Starting point is 00:38:19 ah, within two weeks you'll have your indictment. It was like two weeks ago, you have everyone gets charged quickly. Nobody waits six months for a charge. If they rest you, they charge you like every other country, right? The fact they've waited six months and gone into my entire life and attempted to find something shows they don't have a case.
Starting point is 00:38:35 Why I believe it happened is because they didn't have a case when they were trying to hit me with this garbage. And they thought, you know what, if we put them all over the news, if we slander his name completely, if there was a hotline set up, if you're a girl who's gonna hurt my Andrew take all this number in the UK, a hotline. So they were attempting to use the media
Starting point is 00:38:55 to find what they wanted, months go by, months go by, months go by, case files empty, nothing's happening. My lawyer's saying, when we gonna close this case file, like, yeah, we're just waiting for some papers, we're gonna close it, we're gonna close it, we're gonna close it. case file, like, yeah, we're just waiting for some papers, we're going to close it, we're going to close it, we're going to close it. Around the time I was canceled, things started appearing in the case file again.
Starting point is 00:39:10 They start spying on me again. Very interesting that it happened around that time. I don't know if they understood that I didn't have, I wasn't protected by the political class of the USA. I don't know what happened. They started to build this case, and they spied on me for all of these months spending millions of euros spying on me everywhere I went trying to find evidence of a crime. Eventually they get to the end of their legal limit to spy on me and they don't have any
Starting point is 00:39:35 crime. They don't have anything. So in my current court case, we have two Americans who live, the ones who we have, the conversations between them saying they're going to be in Oscar for life to the police, we have this CCTV of them coming and going, we have their Uber records them saying they're going to be in Oscar for life to the police. We have the CCTV of them coming and going. We have their Uber records showing they can travel the country freely. We have their phone calls with their mother where they're saying, yeah, he didn't hurt me.
Starting point is 00:39:51 My boyfriend caught me that we have all of it. We have all the evidence. We have those two. And then there's nobody else who could possibly even take the stand. I don't believe as high level as this matrix attack is. I still don't believe a Romanian judge is gonna put me in jail with the dossiers, a scene in its garbage. I don't think I'm gonna end up in jail,
Starting point is 00:40:09 but it's just taking years of my life, damaging my influence, having bad things to say about me, keeping me under control, keeping me locked in a house. That's all they wanna do. They have no interest in the truth, there's no victims, there's no one to take the stand. Do you know who's sofias or Alice's or no? Yes, so the BBC, that's really interesting. So then the BBC says, well we found victims
Starting point is 00:40:29 because the BBC have done enough investigative journalism to understand that the case is garbage and they have there's no victims. So they said, well we found victims. They found one called Sophie first. That was a few months ago. I think I was still in jail when Sophie appeared. Is that her real name? No, that's her fake name. So they have a girl with a fake name called Sophie. They don't show her face. They ask me, what do you think about Sophie? How can I comment on Sophie when Sophie isn't real? First, first, you've made her up. Secondly, I don't know who you're talking about. You're saying that nine years ago, I was emotionally controlling? That is the most subjective garbage accusation. What does that mean? Nine years ago? I said you shouldn't party with those guys in the club Is that what I said? I don't know what I said. I don't know who she is if she exists at all and they're saying nine years ago
Starting point is 00:41:10 You're emotionally controlling Sophie said so who Sophie? We're not telling you. What's emotionally controlling me? We're not telling you what you will comment you want me to if this person even exists, which they don't Then I destroy the BBC make it very clear to them the Sophie doesn't exist on repeat because she doesn't. And two days later, Alice appears. What's interesting about this is that, decal, the federal agency inside of Romania, along with help from international partners, have tried so hard, spending millions of euros, with federal level tools to find a victim so they can put me in jail. And they can't find anyone.
Starting point is 00:41:44 But the BBC just pulls them out whenever they want the BBC does. Where do these people come from? And I say this every single time anybody believes they've been wrong male or female by me go to the police. Go to the police. I encourage you to go to the police. All these people say we don't want to go to the police. We just want to say on the news. What is that because you're not real? Is that why? That's pretty convenient. I mean I thought it was a bad person. Why don't you go to the cops? Oh because you have no evidence real? Is that why? That's pretty convenient. I mean, I thought it was a bad person. Why don't you go to the cost?
Starting point is 00:42:06 Oh, because you have no evidence, and it doesn't exist? That's why. Are all these accusers in the UK not even in Romania? Not even in Romania. So Sophie and Alice are supposedly both from the UK. And Alice's story is. To correct, that's not Alice. I said Alice, it's Evie.
Starting point is 00:42:18 Evie or Evie or something like that. Evie IE. So who made up names? It's all made up. Yes, Evie. We could call what I'm a name of one. Yeah, Evie is saying 13 years ago, I choked or something. By the way, when is the six-month time limit?
Starting point is 00:42:29 And did this come? Okay. And do we reference the tweet you just posted a couple days ago? I want to stay on the show. It's coming to gun. You were going to say something about EV, what she said. So she's claiming 10 years ago or 13 years ago, you guys had the consensual sex the first time.
Starting point is 00:42:45 She comes back for the second time around. According to the story, she says she was being, your hand was on her throat, strangled me. She was passed out for a minute, and then she came back and she said, I did not approve of the second time having sex after she was passed out. So these stories, they're making, you know, and then she says, the guy asked the question, and say, how come you didn't do any police report? Back then. So it's not fully rape, and it's not that,
Starting point is 00:43:11 because it was consensional. I kind of wanted to be there, and I didn't tell anybody about it six years later. There's way too many things that doesn't give it credibility for somebody to say, I didn't do anything about it then, but six years later, I told my friends, three or six years later. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:26 And this is the thing that's scary. If you say to any red blooded male 13 years ago, you had sex with a woman consensually and she's now unhappy about how that sex happened. You can get any man on a earth can get screwed with that. If this person exists at all, and like you said, she refused to go to the police if she exists. And she's saying it was consensual. I think last night they aired it on News Night and she literally said, why are you coming
Starting point is 00:43:45 forward now? And I think this actor, the person literally said because now he's rich and famous. They literally said those words. That's what they said. Oh, because now he's rich and famous. I think it's unfair. It's, it's, it's, it's assamine. I don't understand.
Starting point is 00:44:00 Genuinely, how a man can protect himself in the Western world anymore. How can you even exist anymore? If this is what they're going to hit you with as soon as you get to a certain level of influence, there's no man on earth who's safe from this. I said this to my judges. I had a few male judges. I said, they could do this to you. They could do this to anyone.
Starting point is 00:44:15 They could do to you or you or me or any man watching this. Any man watching this, they can put in the BBC nine years ago you did something. They won't tell your name. They won't give you any chance to defend yourself. Do you have no idea what the fuck I'm talking about? And they will print you on repeat until you lose your job and lose your bank and lose your social media. And then you're gonna sit there bankrupt and depressed.
Starting point is 00:44:32 And then they're just gonna move on from you. And if you don't die, if you're like me, a cockroach refuses to die, if you sit around and refuse to go away, they're gonna make up a new one. It's crazy. And it's genuinely scary. And you're not safe from it anywhere anymore.
Starting point is 00:44:47 I will say right now on this podcast, I encourage absolutely anybody who believes I've harmed them, male or female to go to the police with evidence and will go to court. Let's do it. I don't harm people. If I was harming people, I wouldn't be out here as open as I was.
Starting point is 00:44:59 The biggest criminals, the biggest gangsters, the most heinous people on earth, don't have social media. You know this. Do I see a guy with an Instagram pretending he's a gangster? He's not a gangster. The real gangster hasn't gone to Instagram. But that's the reality of you.
Starting point is 00:45:11 Do you think I'm the most Google man in the world? Have I been running around hurting people? It's absolutely insane. And I think there has been a shift into consciousness. I think especially because of COVID and a few other things, people are starting to understand that all these people do is love. I think people are starting to understand that. And people do is love. I think people are starting to understand that.
Starting point is 00:45:25 And the harder they try and hurt me with these lies, the less people believe it, which is scary for me. Like I said earlier, it's scary. They keep coming up with more garbage. The bullets keep bouncing off. So now they're sitting around going, we can't convince the world this person is a bad person. How do we get rid of him?
Starting point is 00:45:47 That's the scary part. You were going to say something. Yeah, follow up. I said, I didn't want to go there. The six months, you know, it's coming up right now. It's coming up June 29th, I believe. Right. Okay. You put out a tweet recently. You said the six month time limit is running out. Right. There's zero evidence against me unless they invent something against me. Right. And then you ask a poll. You said, if they charge me with an empty bullet and it still takes a year to beat it and it allows them to save face, they're hoping that the world will basically forget about all this. What do you think they will do? And you give people three options, option one, let me go.
Starting point is 00:46:17 Option two, charge me with no evidence. Option three, invent and frame attempt. The results were 38% let me go, right? 35% invent and frame attempt. And option two and third place, charge me with no evidence, 27%. 38%, 35%, 27%. So basically, it's pretty even. So what do you think is gonna happen? The people, the 38% of people who think they're gonna let me go,
Starting point is 00:46:44 I think her excuse me naive. I go to sleep every night, every morning, I wake up instinctually at 5 a.m. Because that's when they raid your house. I wake up at like 459, I just fucking shoot up. They bust in my house three times now. It's not nice to have a bunch of men with guns bust in your house, it's not a nice experience.
Starting point is 00:47:01 So every single morning I wake up expecting them to just turn up again with something else and drag me back to a frissel. Who knows what? It was make it up. But the fact they made up this particular crime is because it's a hit piece and it's a slander on my reputation. If they would have done the same thing, let's say for a tax evasion. Would anyone care? No. A rich guy didn't pay a piece of paper. No, no one cares. We have to hurt his name. Human trafficking. Think about it. Think about that. I said this to the judge. How does it make sense? A man with no criminal record who is financially successful decides to begin to human It's clearly not my personality profile. I don't need money. Why have I begun to human traffic from nowhere?
Starting point is 00:47:49 It doesn't even make any sense from a pure logical perspective. There's no motive to the crime. Who will my human traffic? Who is the victim? There's no victims and there's no motive. And here I am on house with. It's insane. So yeah, it's genuinely intimidating.
Starting point is 00:48:03 I don't know what's going to happen next. I believe they're going to try, they're going to try and charge me with the garbage they have. And I think what they're trying to do is just hang it over my head and keep me afraid. Do you think the idea of trying to either silence you or make you irrelevant is working? Meaning, do you think you're more relevant today than you were on September 1st? Is that strategy they implementing a work in? No, they're failing. And the reason they're failing is because God's put me in a position where I have to leave from the front. I think that in the days of old, when politics used to mean something, politics, I believe in politics,
Starting point is 00:48:38 as long as the leader of the country charges on a source at the enemy at the front. Then you're allowed to be king. Then I'll listen to your laws. That's politics. When you send other people's kids to die in a Then I'll listen to your laws. That's politics. When you send other people's kids to die in a war and you sit on your ass, that's not politics to me. But now I'm in a position where I'm spearheading by God's plan, the rights that face the every man on earth. They could do this to anybody.
Starting point is 00:48:56 So I think any man with a brain who's thinking is looking at my position and going, they could hit me or my friends or my son or my dad the same way they're hitting this guy and that that builds a degree of affinity among small audience So no they failed they failed they made a hero out of me, which is what I'm actually scared of I'm I am scared by the incompetence of my enemy I am scared by the fact that they are failing so monumentally if they have been half successful with the cancellation, none of this would have happened.
Starting point is 00:49:26 If the cancellation made me an obscure internet personality, it'd be over. If I were to just allow them to beat me, none of this would have happened. But I beat them. And that's the problem. Now I'm sitting here going, okay, well, after I beat the BBC, after I destroyed the BBC, Tristan gave me a high five, he's like, oh, you're wrecked, they're going to look so five. He said, oh, you're wrecked. They're going to look so stupid. I said, bro, we've sunk the HMS hood.
Starting point is 00:49:49 HMS hood in World War II, HMS hood was the British battleship. It was the flagship of the Royal Navy. The Royal Navy was obviously renowned. It has been for hundreds of years. It was the best battleship. And it was up against German battleships of the Bismarck. And the hood should have outgunned the Bismarck. And it was the best German ship against the best British ship.
Starting point is 00:50:06 By absolute fluke, the Bismarck on its first volley or second volley landed a shell perfectly through the top of the hood and blew up the ammo magazine. And like the first shot within minutes destroyed the entire HMS hood. I think it was like 3,000 people, two survivors. You can find the video on YouTube, the hood, blow into pieces. When Churchill found out the hood was sunk, he said, sink the Bismarck, don't care what it costs. He said, every ship, every plane, every sub, diver it from every other mission, doesn't care if we lose every plane we have, don't care if
Starting point is 00:50:37 we lose the RF. We cannot lose the hood without him losing the Bismarck. Sink the Bismarck. When the Bismarck sunk the hood, all of the crew were celebrating except the captain. The captain updated his will. The update his will and telegraphed home to his wife and sink the bike. Because he knew. When I destroyed the BBC, my brother was celebrating. I knew, as a Tristan, no.
Starting point is 00:50:55 You don't beat the British broadcast incorporation to make fools of them like this without some new bullshit. We sunk the hood. And he's like, oh, we'll see. Oh, who's this? Evie? Evie. I fucking knew it, oh, we'll see. Oh, who's this? Evie? Evie. Evie.
Starting point is 00:51:06 I fucking knew it. I'm winning too well. I'm scared by the incompetence of these clowns. But I don't know what else I'm supposed to do. Am I supposed to lose? I'm genuinely looking for guidance here. Am I supposed to roll over and fucking lose when they're lying about me and slander in my name and trying to put me back in a fucking dungeon, back with the cockroaches?
Starting point is 00:51:23 All I could do is protest my innocence, but there's such idiots, I make them look so stupid, and then there's egos involved. You think Lucy Williamson hasn't been called into a meeting room with some BBC producer saying, you made a fool of us? Yes she has, there's egos involved. Big business men with business interests, I have ego investment in hurting me now,
Starting point is 00:51:43 and I keep winning. So I don't know, I'm in a very precarious scenario. Do I continue to win? Do I let them win a bit? Do I just roll over and shut up? What am I supposed to do? I don't know what the right move is. It's difficult. You sincerely don't know what the right move is. I sincerely have decided that the best thing I can do is stay true to my faith
Starting point is 00:52:02 and say true to God and tell the truth and fight. The right move for me I believe is to fight and fight to the end because I think that suicide is always the wrong option. I believe you're putting a bad position, the best thing you should possibly do is fight to the best of your ability, which is what I'm going to do. However, if I was looking at it purely logically without any kind of ideological motivations, perhaps if I would have shut up when they wanted me to, I wouldn't be in this scenario, but that's just not who I am You know Alexander the great didn't have to keep conquering
Starting point is 00:52:29 Genghis Khan didn't need to take Vienna. He could have just chill. He kept going So I feel like when I'm in a position where I don't know what I'm supposed to do the best thing I can do is just look to God and tell the truth And just and that's what I'm doing. I want to ask you one more question regarding human traffic because this is a heinous charge or absolutely I mean this is, because this is a heinous charge. Absolutely. I mean, this is not lightweight stuff. You famously ran a webcam business. Perfectly legal. Nothing wrong with that.
Starting point is 00:52:52 I mean, I can't tell you how many women are doing only fans these days. Webcam business. How much of a reason was that a correlation for the human trafficking, the sex trafficking, the webcam business, how much did they correlate that? Yeah, they're not. Well, you must be human trafficking, he's running a web cam business. They don't correlate that. Zero correlation.
Starting point is 00:53:11 So they haven't even charged any of the web cam business. Zero. And what's crazy is, is people assume that, right? It's crazy because one, it's not illegal. And two, you can go drive down the high street of Romania. There's web cam studios on some of the most popular businesses in the country. It's not even illegal. And that was a past life.
Starting point is 00:53:27 You're talking about something happened 10 years ago. It was that long ago. It was about 10 years ago. Yeah, it was at the very beginning of it. The very beginning of the whole idea of that industry. Menec is an application which allows you to take a minute to connect with influencers from all around the world. My name is Andrew Tate, and I'm available to speak directly to you on Menec.
Starting point is 00:53:44 I think it's just perception. I understand I have this perception. And I think a lot of people who are also disliked me. A lot of the reason they disliked me so much is my perception. I've had people who say, I hate what you say. Say, what do I say? And after talking to them a while they say, it's not what you say, it's how you say. Of course. It's the perception of aggression.
Starting point is 00:54:03 It's the perception of masculinity that they're afraid of. It's like in the words. They might like the words. It's like delivery. So I understand perception can be reality to a degree. I accepted that maybe the first month, 1000 jails. I understand when you have a message which is complicated and masculinity as a whole is a very complicated tapestry.
Starting point is 00:54:22 That the best way to instill it and teach it is to break it down to its three core, break it down to its core beliefs. So I've evolved way beyond Lamborghini's and chicks, right? But masculinity as a whole is a very complicated tapestry. You need to have the emotionality. You need to have the times you feel like crying and you don't. You need to have the times you can be aggressive.
Starting point is 00:54:40 You need to have the times you can be violent to protect your family. It's very complicated. And you can't teach that, especially to the young generation in spite of the constant propaganda they have coming in their ears very easily. So I break it down to a very core message and the core message is that I have financial freedom, so it's hard to tell what to do. And I have sexual access because I'm respected by women and I have a good network because
Starting point is 00:55:02 I'm respected by men. I break it down to those core things. And those core things. And those core things are why I build my... That's how you build the tapestry of master needs. If you don't have those three core things, you can never build the rest of it. That's the beginning of it.
Starting point is 00:55:13 If you don't have those three things, it's hard to build the rest. So, anybody who doesn't look into my message properly. I mean, I'm sure these people who are after me have never listened to me speak at length, ever. Ever! They just look at a picture. He's on a boat. There's three girls on the boat. There's no way those girls are happy with that,
Starting point is 00:55:29 because my wife hates me. And there's three of them. So he has to go to jail. And that's what's happening. It's that baseline. I truly believe it's that baseline. But how else can I teach my message as complicated as it is without first breaking down and proving you have
Starting point is 00:55:43 success in the most core levels of it, right? Before you learn to box, you jab and you cross. Before you do all the complicated stuff, you do the basic stuff. So a lot of it is people looking at my message, not understanding how detailed it is, not understanding how positive it is, looking at the baseline instincts which I teach and which I use to advertise my success as a whole to people to show and say, look, I clearly know what I'm talking about to a degree, because I have things that you want. And you're a man, so you can't tell me you would don't want them. Everybody wants this.
Starting point is 00:56:09 Everybody wants one of these. And they take all this and they try to weaponize it and use it against me. And you're right. It's feminism as a whole that has this idea that the man is a man unapologetically, and he doesn't apologize for being a man that he's a bad person. Which we've discussed at length, and I've discussed them a lot of times, but it's truly the most crazy thing about all of this is when shit hits the fan. It's exactly the kind of men they hate that they want. Every single time, every single time. You can go out to a bar in America
Starting point is 00:56:36 and you can stand there and argue with a feminist and argue with her to the end of time. And if someone ran in there with a gun, she would say, hey you, you go, you're the misogynist. You go protect me. The feminist guy who's on my team, I don't want him would say, hey you, you go, you're the massage and just you go protect me. The feminist guy who's on my team, I don't want him to go, I want you to go, please. We don't want Dylan Movinian, the front line. Of course not.
Starting point is 00:56:52 And it's hypocritical. And it's hypocritical. And his done on purpose is purported by the matrix. It's done to attack the baseline masculinity of men because they don't want men to be masculine. Because when you're masculine, you say no to things. I saw a really interesting study once. That was, it had testosterone level and it was linked to capability to disagree with people.
Starting point is 00:57:11 The higher testosterone level, the more likely you are to disagree, because at a baseline level, back before we were more civilized than we are today, if you disagreed with someone, you had to fight him. You had to fight that man. But you just said to say, you are wrong,
Starting point is 00:57:22 there have to be a possibility of violence. If you didn't have the capability for violence, you didn't say they're wrong. You didn't say they were wrong. You just agreed with stuff, right? So they don't want men who are standing up and saying, I don't believe in X. They want to reduce our testosterone levels to reunites so that we sit and say, well, I may not agree with it, but what can I really do about it is what it is. And then they have absolute control. Do you think history favors that ideology? Where history eventually, a group of men, stand up and say, yeah, listen, we've had enough,
Starting point is 00:57:52 this is not gonna be happening. I do believe that in history, it's always been the same. I believe it's always been a select group of good men who are up against evil. And I think they've always been outnumbered and it's always been difficult. And they've always suffered. All of them. When I was in jail, there were not letters. I got from people and it was just names of and I'm not comparing myself to these people
Starting point is 00:58:10 This is the letters I got of Nelson Mandela Martin Luther King Malcolm X Mama Dali did a everyone who was unjustly in prison Everyone's gone the jail because when you stand up for something they'd up trying to put you in jail When you're a good person trying to do good the the evil, the matrix is a hole, is going to try and throw you in jail. That's what they do. That's the punishment for it. And history has always been the same.
Starting point is 00:58:29 It's always been a small group of outgunned people who stand up, who are to the detriment of themselves too principled to allow injustice and evil to thrive. And they stand up and they're outgunned and they're outnumbered, but they're like, no, I have to tell the truth. If you play a video game and you're the good guy, when you get to the boss at the end, he has more life than you. He has more hit points and he moves faster and he's a cheater. He cheats. He cheats, a bad guy cheats, but you still win because you're good. And that's how the battle has always been. I would love for the world to be another way,
Starting point is 00:59:00 but I don't think it's ever been that way. I think if you find any time in history, it's always been the same story. And now I'm in the position where, like I said earlier, what am I supposed to do? Do I have a life path in which I can genuinely help people, and do I have a life path in which I can genuinely do some damage to the evil to the world? Well, am I just going to disappear like a coward and let them lie about me and do my time and shut up and delete my Twitter account and just go away? just go away.

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