PBD Podcast - Andrew Tate Interview - Part 3

Episode Date: June 13, 2023

Patrick Bet-David sits down with Andrew Tate in Romania while under house arrest. For almost five hours, PBD & Tate discuss the current allegations against him, life in jail, life after jail, The ...BBC interview, the Matrix attacking him, his conversion to Islam, and what's next for him. --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/pbdpodcast/support

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I have nothing against gay people. I don't care. And that's actually another point I want to make into about this thing. I think most people don't care and I think that bothers them. Have you ever had an argument with a girl? And she's like, stropping around the house. She's huffing and puffing and you just don't give a shit. So she has to keep up in the ante to eventually go, what's the problem? Because she tried the low level stuff and you didn't care.
Starting point is 00:00:30 I kind of feel like this has a remnants of that I'm gay cool I want to get married I want to wave my dick in your kids face whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa I feel like they like they tried to annoy us and we're like we don't give a shit do whatever you want be a person we don't give a shit. Do whatever you want, be a person, we don't care. What's the point? And now they're like, okay, we have to get to a limit where they have to react. We want attention now. We want them to care about. What's the right move on that?
Starting point is 00:00:53 Well, that's the point, you know, it's difficult because there comes a point where you simply have to address it. Now you have to oppose it. And this is sorry to, sorry to interrupt you, but this is why they're so careful and so clever of what they do. They package it all together. LGBTQ, I don't know what Q is, firstly, sorry to, sorry to drop you, but this is why they're so careful and so clever of what they do. They package it all together. LGBTQ, I would argue, I don't know what Q is, firstly, sorry.
Starting point is 00:01:09 I don't know what Q, questioning. Q, all right. I would argue that G and T are very different things. Beyond. A gay man and someone who's trapped the dick off are very different things. So they package it all together. So now, because the spectrum of your
Starting point is 00:01:26 enemy is so large, you have people who are completely, fully this way, you have people who we accept that are normal in society, we have no problem with gay people, and they put it all together. You're an enemy of all these people, and they complicate the argument, and they mix it all together, and now you're a big it. And really, just what your kids to be left alone, release one of these children who'll be, of course. So all you want to do is leave your kids alone. And then it's like, okay, I am now raising children. I have more children than most people would believe.
Starting point is 00:01:49 How do I protect my children from this insanity? God, which God can protect my children? Allah is long. I'll move them to Dubai or Saudi Arabia, and none of this will happen. Can I trust a Christian nation? Some of them remain trust a Christian nation? Some of them remain as a Christian nation and to a large degree they oppose quite a lot of this stuff, but they're also
Starting point is 00:02:12 a nail and they're also a EU and they also rely on bailouts and grants and money and a long enough time frame even in the seven years I've lived here I have watched certain attitudes change because money buys influence and power. So Andrew, not to cut you off, how much of you converting from Christianity to Islam is actually the belief in God versus the societal pressures that are facing over? It's no good because it seems like it's a little bit of both. For you to believe in God, you have to respect Him. How can I believe and put my life in the hands of someone I don't respect? And I'm going to respect the goal which is feared.
Starting point is 00:02:47 Yeah, but it's a vertical relationship, right? It's not a horizontal. If you base, if you base it horizontally, they're going to disappoint you. If you think about, if you're going to believe, let's go believe Prophet Muhammad, his teaching, and let's go believe the Bible, NIV, and Jesus, the Father, you know, for God so love the world that He gave us, you know, You gave your son, for me, let's say that's true, and you're doing it based on faith, who would do such a thing for me? What a level of sacrifice for you to do that? Who am I for you to be so worried about me? If you look at it from that angle, it's not necessarily coming from a place of fear. It's coming from a place of grace. It's coming from
Starting point is 00:03:31 a place of love. It's coming from a place of, you know, a different feel because I do believe the part that upsets me is the fear aspect that allowing others to mock your God, to mock Jesus, to mock whatever religion it is you're part of and you're kind of like, oh, they're just funny, man. It's going, no, it's not funny. You just crossed the line. Like, Jay-C has that one line where he says, don't tell me why the guy, what the guy said about me.
Starting point is 00:04:03 Tell me why he was so comfortable saying it to you. 100%. You tell me why he was so comfortable saying it to you? 100% Tell me why he said, say, comfortable to you. So I think that's the part about fate. I understand when you're saying the fear and the respect side. So that's the part where fear is needed. I totally agree. But the part where you were making a point about LGBTQ, you're like, I don't know, a Q stands for reasons questioning. And then you're like, well, gay, okay, cool. Trans, this a man, spectrum.
Starting point is 00:04:28 And he said, if we were to say, which religion is the far right, it's gonna be Muslim, totally get it, they're on the far right. Christian today is kinda going on the center left today. They're kinda being soft right now. So if I wanna raise my kids, I'm gonna take my kids to Dubai, and I'm gonna take my kids to Saudi Arabia.
Starting point is 00:04:46 Why? Because I'm defending against some of these immoral philosophies that they have. I don't want to go there. I actually understand that argument. Yeah. And I truly, and I want to make one more point. I do believe there is one God, and I believe there's
Starting point is 00:04:58 many different paths to God. And I am not a religious scholar, and I'm not an expert on Islam. I'm doing my best, and I'm reading the Quran as often as I can. And it does say that Christians on the day of reckoning will see how close they were to the truth. And we are allies. We are not enemies in any regard, Christians and Muslims. And I do believe that the idea of Christians and Muslim-shakin hands
Starting point is 00:05:18 and saying let's put an end to a law this garbage would be fantastic. I'm not anti-Christian in any regard. I just found myself as I became more and more religious, seeking and looking for a faith which, not only I could be proud of, but a faith which was guiding in regards to, I don't know what a Christian would answer to certain questions nowadays.
Starting point is 00:05:38 What does a Christian answer to? I'm a trans-exual and I'm not sure your kids, my generals. What's a Christian supposed to say? No, do they? I know what my my my my my awesome friends would say. I don't know if you're a Christian I don't know how you're supposed to act. I don't know what you're supposed to adopt. I don't get it anymore. The true believer says the true believer. The true believer. But how many are true believers in I don't know I see all over Twitter all these churches are losing their minds. It seems very complicated. Islam seems
Starting point is 00:06:05 very, very simple. You know what's right, you know what's wrong. I have a question regarding, we talked about tolerance and acceptance. The other end of that is extremism. So I'm a Jew, Christian, newfound Muslim, respect, looking at us all hanging out here. We're talking about accepting gay friends, they have lesbian friends, like, it all is all hanging out here. It's a meeting on the joke somewhere. So we're talking about accepting the, I have gay friends. They have lesbian friends, bisexual. The T stuff is what, it's kind of like, all right, what's actually even happening here. You know, I'm not, this is not my wheelhouse nor any of our wheelhouses,
Starting point is 00:06:39 but one could argue that, you know, on the opposite end of the acceptance and the tolerance is absolute extremism. And I'm sure the allies of the LGBT will point to Islam and point to the Middle Eastern countries and point to the North African countries that have Islam as their religion and say, they are the most extreme when it comes to LGBT. They say that it should be illegal to be gay. And in some countries, you should be killed if you are gay. This is just I'm just putting out that. You're right and
Starting point is 00:07:07 it's a super interesting argument because I will I will sit here and say that I guarantee in most Islamic countries there are gay people and I guarantee that they have gay relationships and nobody cares as long as I'm not trying to inflict on the children. It's illegal to walk down the street and do indecent things in front of children but I guarantee if you were gay in a lot of these countries. No privately nobody would care. Because they're trying to preserve the family unit. And to a degree, you have to always protect innocence.
Starting point is 00:07:30 When you were talking about extremism, I would be friends with a gay person. Yes, I'm a Muslim, but I would be friends with a gay person. Because if a full grown man decides to make a decision, it's his decision to make. But I must protect innocence as a man. So I must protect children. If two full grown men decide to have a fight,
Starting point is 00:07:43 let them fight. If a full grown man decides to pick on a kid, that's unacceptable. So I must protect children. If two full grown men decide to have a fight, let them fight. If a full grown man decides to pick on a kid, that's unacceptable. So I must protect innocents. So I agree with the extremism point, but I have no problem with full grown men doing what they want to do. Maybe some Islamic schoolers are going to watch us get mad at me.
Starting point is 00:07:56 I don't have a problem being gay with gay people and being friends with a gay person. I don't care. My problem is when you take a person who is unarmed, who is innocent, who is programmable, like a child, and start inflicting your worldview on them. That is disgusting, and it's unfair, and it can't be accepted on any level.
Starting point is 00:08:10 And that's the reason homosexuality is genuinely outlawed in these countries, not because they fear what two-full-grown men are going to do. They fear what's happened in the West, so two-full-grown men are going to purport on the minds of children which aren't theirs. That's what they're afraid of. You know, I don't know if you saw the interview.
Starting point is 00:08:28 CNN is interview when this in Africa, and I have the video, I don't want to play the video. I just can't. The leader, he's talking about democracy. He says, democracy says, look, you can do whatever you want to do. It says, what do you think about Gaze? And his reaction was like, what do you mean?
Starting point is 00:08:44 What do you do? I don't agree with what they do. You think that's okay? says, what do you think about Gaze? And his reaction was like, what do you mean? What do you do? I don't agree with what they do. You think that's okay? Anyways, he's given his argument, right? And a lady's reaction was like, how could you, says look, you keep your beliefs to you, do not bring it to our country here, right? The challenge goes back to, remember how you're like
Starting point is 00:09:02 the girl that you're dating. So what happened? I asked you to bring the oranges from the store. How can you bring it? Yeah, I forgot. Hey, so how about this? And that's why you love your mom more than you love me in it. And then, of course, you're going to go around them
Starting point is 00:09:13 and there's a fight, right? Okay. Well, is the mistake being too tolerant from the beginning? Is the mistake being too accepting from the beginning? Is the mistake of, you know, you know, like the fear when I talk to second amendment guys, and the fear about, well, you know, what's wrong with them doing background checks? What's wrong with them doing this? He says, look, that's how it starts.
Starting point is 00:09:37 You give them the background checks, then they're going to come for everything. Oh, you're over exaggerating. No one's coming for your guns. Well, you also said 20 years ago Hillary Clinton marriages between a man and a woman and the sanctity of marriage 20 years later. So that is the fear where one must watch this as a case study. Say somebody's starting a new country and saying, look, here's what we stand.
Starting point is 00:09:58 These are the laws we're not touching. We're not going to be doing XYZ. You've been too tolerant and now you're paying the price for it and now you're reacting to it. And that's exactly why you completely nailed it. If you give an inch to take a mile and that's why I think in a lot of these countries they have an official, it's officially illegal. They're actually quite tolerant of it more than you'd believe. I'm telling you, you can go to Jordan and your weight or maybe a bit of freedom, you can tell. Nobody cares. Nobody cares. Nobody gives a shit, right? But they have it officially illegal to prevent it ever bleeding out into actually affecting the
Starting point is 00:10:29 mindset of society. You can do what you want your full-grown man. The society is based on family, traditional family values. That's how our society is based. That's how we show ourselves to the world. And that's not going to be affected or changed. I was going to say that's why you see the you talk about the collapse of Western society, specifically America. You see the Klein and Values Wall Street Journal came out with that article that said family values plummeting, religion plummeting, being a social, being community organizer plummeting. Everything's plummeting in America other than money, people are focusing on money.
Starting point is 00:11:01 Menec is an application which allows you to take a minute to connect with influencers from all around the world. My name is Andrew Tate and I'm available to speak directly to you on Meneck. So it's interesting while you're talking about this whole religion thing. While you're in, who has reached out to want to support? We talked about this last time briefly. Being a Muslim yourself, have some of the most powerful Muslims reached out trying to help out figure out a way to get you out. Yeah, absolutely. They certainly have. And also the amount of mail I got from Muslims around the world was completely incredible.
Starting point is 00:11:35 When I was in the cell with Tristan he even said, he said, well I'm Christian, nobody's written to me. Yeah, so it was kind of amazing to support that you have from the brotherhood and you certainly feel part of the family and I've had a lot of support from them as a whole. It was Ramadan at the time I was in jail, so my first Ramadan was in jail, so that was certainly interesting because you eat when the sun goes down and my meal came when the sun was up, so I'd have to cover it up and try and hide it from cockroaches and wait for the sun to go down and then eat it cold by myself. But I felt like you know if you're gonna do it the first time you may as well jump in the deep end and do it hard. So I did that and that was a experience.
Starting point is 00:12:14 And jail as a whole I mean there's so many stories I can tell there's so many different ways I remember it. There were times I laughed. I will sit and say some of the best days of my life for in jail. Get out of here. Yeah. And some of the worst days of my life for in jail. Get out of here. Yeah. And some of the worst days of my life for in jail. But there were days where me and Tristan were finally in the same cell. There's times we laughed like we've never laughed before. I'll sit and admit that's absolutely not really true. I feel like if you're going to be the kind of person who strives for an exceptional life,
Starting point is 00:12:41 which is what I am, I think I'd be a coward if I said, I want an exceptional life, but I only want to be exceptional in a good way. I don't think that's genuine. I want an exceptional life. An exceptional means away from the norm. And away from the norm means flying your brigati on a jet to Dubai and taking your own plane to meet it there. And it also means a Romanian dungeon
Starting point is 00:12:59 with cockroaches on your feet. They're both exceptional experiences. And the times I was with my brother, and it was just him and I, we truly had some genuine days where we laughed like we always laughed. Me and him laugh and have fun on a private jet and we laughed and had fun in a Romanian prison cell because that's just who we are. And I also have to give my brother some credit while we're here. I would like to state that I absolutely genuinely believe I have the best brother in the world. And I'll tell you why. I always knew I had the best brother in the world but he proved it in jail and I'll tell you why.
Starting point is 00:13:28 My brother was put in jail for being my brother. He hasn't said any videos, he hasn't said anything on the internet, he hasn't said any of the things I've supposedly said. He's not the matrix isn't attacking him, the BBC doesn't print about him nothing. Why was Tristan Tate in jail? Because it's Tate brothers. So they just took him and threw him in a cell. Now what's interesting is when I got out of jail so many people near me got heat. All business partners got heat with the tax. They got hit with like a tax paperwork and
Starting point is 00:13:57 they were calling everyone who's ever known me and ex-girlfriends got heat and all these people got heat and some people complained, some people didn't. But some people were like, oh, this engine been in jail, it's been so stressful for me, the media's outside my house. When I stressful for you, I was in jail. What do you want me to do? And people were complaining at me. And as these people started to complain, I sat there, I said to Tristan,
Starting point is 00:14:14 you got thrown in jail purely for being my brother. And never for a fraction of a second, did you even mone? Didn't even, not even for a fraction of a second, did he say, oh, they only put me here because of you? Why am I here? I'm innocent. This is nothing to do with me. Nothing in fact He said the absolute opposite. He said I am so glad I went to jail with you I would be furious if they sent you here by yourself if they're gonna lock you up
Starting point is 00:14:40 They better lock me up and there was a time about two months in because there's less media pressure on Tristan. They were talking about releasing Tristan first and he was saying, no, I won't leave without Andrew. Going down with the ship. I won't leave unless my brother leaves. I won't leave. And he was telling the guards, I won't leave.
Starting point is 00:14:57 Keep me here. I'm not leaving. And then they said, the judge says you have to leave you to leave because then I'll stand outside the gate. I'll sleep outside. I ain't leaving this jail. And our lawyer said, well, we can make an appeal to just release you because there's less media scrutiny around you.
Starting point is 00:15:11 And Tristan's like, no, Andrews and Jail, I'm in jail. Refused to leave. He was adamant he had to stay. That's a brother for me. And it was the same for me. I said to Tristan, if they came into me and if Andrew go home,
Starting point is 00:15:22 I'll be like, no, no way. Tristan's and Jail, I'm in jail. We're in jail together. He never for a second complaint, never bitch, never moaned, and he was only in jail for me and my brother. And then I come out and there's other people, oh, they sent me a piece of paper, blah, blah, blah, you're in your mountain? It's unbelievable.
Starting point is 00:15:38 You truly learn, like I said, jail confirms everything you've already knew about the world, and you truly learn who's on your side and who isn't. And that's good to learn, but it's actually crazy. The also the larger psychological analysis of it all, everyone lives inside their own minds, right? So it's kind of crazy. I came out of jail. And some of the first messages I got from people
Starting point is 00:15:58 was them complaining about the problems me being in jail had given, like, you think that wouldn't happen, right? You think, oh, you come out of jail, people would be like, oh, are you okay? They're like, oh, you're okay, you're out now? Okay, yeah, we'll listen. Mo, you be amazed, you be amazed. And I'm like, I was in jail, what do you want me to do?
Starting point is 00:16:15 They have the sounds on fortune, I was in your jail cell. What do you want me to do about it? It's kind of crazy how much everyone's kind of self interested. So it's been a learning curve and you learn a lot about a lot of different people and your circle gets smaller. And I think that's probably one of the reasons God put me in there to just learn a lot
Starting point is 00:16:29 and make my circle smaller. And you just have to listen to him and pay attention to it and say, okay, all right? You're off, you're off, you're on, you're on, you're on, you're on, you're on. But my brother, I have to give him credit because I tell you, I also think me interested in one of the best teams in the world
Starting point is 00:16:40 because we have different roles inside of our brotherhood. My role is to be concerned and to panic. Not panic, that's the wrong word. I never panic. My role is to be concerned and try and fix the problem. I'm in jail pacing up and down. How do we get out? And Tristan's role is to not care.
Starting point is 00:16:59 And together, that helps us achieve the objective best. Because when we really need to get out, I'm in charge. He's wrong, he's wrong, he's not care. Sometimes when it was at the height of frustration, I needed his superpower. Tristan's superpower, and this is his superpower for life, if he is the master of not giving a fuck. We would go to court. We would go to court. We would go to court.
Starting point is 00:17:25 Imagine this. You're in jail, right? Weekends were the worst because the TV was worse on weekends for some reason. Like you had like three channels. And the TV, the weekends were the worst. And you could hear out the window. I want having fun.
Starting point is 00:17:36 I hate weekends. So on a Friday would roll around and say, okay, Tristan, we just have to zen away the weekend. And on Monday, there's court. We just have to zen away the weekend. So if the weekend we just sit there staring at the wall. Intrusive thoughts, you can't sleep. All the things you're trying to get your brain
Starting point is 00:17:50 just sitting in silence, there's a room's tap to just staring at the wall. Just staring at the wall. And you think Monday would never come. And Monday would eventually come, right? Or Sunday night comes, an AAM on Monday, they're gonna take you to court. And they might let you go home.
Starting point is 00:18:03 They might let you go home. You've done nothing. This person in court and they might let you go home. They might let you go home. You've done nothing. This person in this room can decide if you go home and it's Sunday night and you can't sleep. You're awake all night long. There's no clock, but you just you just seconds feel like hours. You're just sitting there. Eventually AAM comes, put you in handcuffs, walk you to the court.
Starting point is 00:18:21 You walk in there. Everyone speaks Romanian. Don't have a clue what's going on, everyone's just talking at each other in Romanian, then they say you'll get the answer in three hours, go back to jail. When I went back to jail, I was sitting in the room, I was like, do I pack to go home? No, that's too optimistic. Okay, but you're nervous, you're like, you're anxious. Am I going to go home? Is it over? Do I get to go home? I called the lawyer, do you have an answer yet? No, no answer yet. Okay, sit in there. I can barely sit still. Tristan finishes court, walks I called the lawyer, do you have an answer yet? No, no answer yet, okay. Sit in there, I can barely sit still.
Starting point is 00:18:46 Tristan finishes court, walked straight into the room. It's a matrix attack, it's bullshit, I'm gonna sleep. I went to bed, clean asleep, also had a fucking asleep, he didn't care at all. He just went straight to bed. And then when he woke up, like six hours later, matrix attack, I'm like, yeah, he thought so. He just rolled back over, did in care.
Starting point is 00:19:06 But it's perfect for God like you. But that's what you need, I need that. I agree. Because if I had someone else next to me, as hyped as me, I would've gone insane. I agree. I need someone like him who's just like, he had a super power, I was like, bro, I love jail.
Starting point is 00:19:18 Jail's great, look, we got coffee, I love jail. None of my women are messaging me, I love jail. Truth, I'm telling you, I had 45 minutes on the phone a day, and I used all of my minutes. Tristan never made a single phone call from jail. Get out of here. Not one. I was like, Tristan, do you want to speak to anyone?
Starting point is 00:19:35 Nah. Sit there watching Romanian news. Didn't give you shit. Like bulletproof. But the only reason he's so bulletproof that way is because he knows I'm doing the absolute best the other way. He couldn't be that way if I wasn't trying to get us out because then he would try to get out. You need the yin and yang.
Starting point is 00:19:55 So like when I went when I went when it was chill time, it was his mental frame. And when it was a time, how do we get out here? It was my mental frame. But Tristan's superpower genuinely is genuinely not caring. I can't explain the level of how much he didn't affect him. He didn't bother him at all. I didn't see him sad. Nothing you smile at. He didn't care. You consider yourself a stoic.
Starting point is 00:20:18 How much more stoic is he than you? I just think we have different roles and I think we evolved into them over the time. Because it's not just jail, so everything. That's what we are with everything if there's a business problem I'm the one who's like shit. We have to fix this now shit shit. Tristan's the one like Andrew You are so ridiculousy rich chill, but we need that we need both right, but he couldn't be that chilled If I wasn't the way I was because he wouldn't be successful You need you need the opposites so everyone goes oh you and your brother are so close, we're so close because we're actually very different people. But yeah, he was amazing in Jalen.
Starting point is 00:20:49 Even afterwards, I feel struggle to sleep. He sleeps fine because I think my experience of Jale was a far more stressful one because I adopted that. Now, I'm not saying I couldn't have done what Tristan did. I could have done what Tristan did. If I were to go into jail and say your MO is to not care, I could not care. But my MO was, how do I get out of this matrix attack? So I was the most stressed I've ever been in my life. So that's carried over.
Starting point is 00:21:16 So I don't sleep. He sleeps fine, but he slept fine in jail. So why wouldn't you sleep fine now, right? So yeah, it was interesting, but I have to give him props because it's amazing to have that level of clarity and he said things which are absolutely not true, things I already knew but it was nice to hear. I want to ask you a question, so I have two boys, right? And one day they're going to watch this, they're not going to watch it right now, they're level nine, but they're one
Starting point is 00:21:41 they're going to watch. And in and in school you know I'll go and the kids that are you know 11-12-13 they're like you're you're Andrew Tate how was that interview oh my god so 11-year-old kids are watching these types of content but that's pretty well where they're at but here's a question about brothers there's a lot of brothers up. As a father, there's certain principles on teaching them. One, if you can speak from the idea of how your bond was built based on a man, your father, an emery, injecting certain values and principles on the two of you, you guys better do this, I don't want to see this. And then which part of the code did you guys create? Because there's friendship, but there's brotherhood.
Starting point is 00:22:23 There's a very different story. Absolutely. How was that developed? Yeah, so my father and I have endless stories about my father. A lot of people who dislike me would call them an extremist. I don't think he was an extremist. I truly believe I had the best father on the planet. And from a very young age, he made it clear. He said, look, your tates and you're
Starting point is 00:22:37 going to have an amazing of people who are against you. Your best bet is to be a team. So whenever me and Tristan would fight, which happened, we got put in a room together and we had to sit in that room and my dad would say three hours or four hours in silence. He'd sit us down in the room here, here looking at each other and say, by here a noise, I'm starting to time again. And we'd have to just imagine you're a kid and you fight and you're furious and you're so mad. And then you'd have to sit in across from the person you hate.
Starting point is 00:23:03 Silent. Because you make a noise, dad gets mad. And dad's outside, right? So just sit there, two hours. Don't make a noise. We'd stare at each other. And over time, we thought, every time dad was home, we just stopped fighting. Because it wasn't worth it just sitting in this isolation,
Starting point is 00:23:15 weird, silent, stare thing. Because that's what happened on repeat. And half of my five times, we just stopped fighting. We literally, we'd fight all the time, when mom was home. And when dad would come home, we literally just look at each other like, troops, like, we can't, we don't want to sit and do this thing we had to do.
Starting point is 00:23:32 So we became a team, and then I think of all from there, because there's always been a hierarchy. I am the older brother, I'm the bigger brother. He does respect me for that. We both have opinions, but, you know, it can be vetoed by me in the end. And we have our specific roles. My specific role is I'm the one who takes the most action.
Starting point is 00:23:48 I'm the one who over worries. I believe, especially in business, in many other things, I say it to all my staff. I say react fast, react early. Like panic early. Like panic now. I don't believe in waiting for things. It's just not who I am.
Starting point is 00:24:00 I can give you a million different examples. If my email processor just happened just before my cancellation, and said, oh, we'll put your account under review, you'll have an answer in 72 hours. As soon as I get that email within three minutes, I'm like, get a new one. Get a new one.
Starting point is 00:24:13 I've never waited for anything in my life, and it worked. I've never waited, and it worked out fine. Ever, every time it's your canceled, every time it's your deleted, every time something like, oh, get a new one now. Get, just get a new one. I need today's email, I'll get a new one. We can't get a new one, no, no, except us.
Starting point is 00:24:25 Build one. So in a day, we build our own. Like I'm the panic fast and early guy. Tristan's the complete opposite. And that makes us a perfect synergy. And I super need him and I need his energy, especially in jail. And he was fantastic in jail.
Starting point is 00:24:37 He was like, Andrew, look at what? He goes, if when you were 18, they told you you could be one of the richest, most famous men on earth, with street cred in every single city that knows how to speak English. All you had to do was sit in jail for two months. Would you have taken it? He was like, he had to go somewhere? Fuck you, careful. It's so true. Now we're taking that. He goes, I know, he used to say that, what kind of man hasn't been the jail? This was his saying. He said, what kind of man hasn't been the jail? He loved jail. He was loving that all the time because what kind of man has him in the jail? He loves jail. He was letting them out all the time because what kind of man has him in the jail?
Starting point is 00:25:06 Of course, I'm in the jail. I'm just a tell, of course, I'm in the jail. But he didn't care. And his energy was amazing to tap into. But we both understand that we, neither of us could be us without the other ones polar. And that's why we live together. That's why we'll always live together.
Starting point is 00:25:19 I've had a lot of like women try and say, why do you still live with your brother? Why don't you want to live with me? Trident, I try and explain to them that. One, I don't think I can be my most competitive without him. Two, I'm most emotionally stable with him. I like the idea, I'm most competitive with him. I'm my best version of me.
Starting point is 00:25:38 If it doesn't matter where I have to go into a fight, it doesn't matter if I have to run a business, I'm better at trusting by my side than it would be by myself. And three, my ideal family life, even my ideal family, the way I live my life now, is very much more like a clan than a nuclear family. I like me, my girl, my kids, Tristan, his girl, his kids,
Starting point is 00:25:57 my cousin, his girl, his kids. I like this idea of lots of people. I like that. I like that feeling. So, girls, see to me, you don't want a family. No, I want a family bigger than you want. I just don't want to just sit with you. I want a lot of people around me and I think it's better for that and I think it's better for the children especially also. I think they enjoy it more. But yeah, I've got the best brother on the planet. I truly do. And this is why I'm saying some of our best days of our lives are in jail.
Starting point is 00:26:20 I was going to ask you that you guys live here in this compound. It's an amazing place. I was going to ask you, you kind of just answered it, but you foresee yourself living with your brother the rest of your life? Thousand percent. Thousand percent. I can't imagine not wanting to live with Tristan. If you want privacy, you have privacy, right? We have a big house.
Starting point is 00:26:37 So it is what it is. We don't want to win. It is what it is. But I can't imagine him not being around if there's a problem I just shout his name or I just can't imagine it. And I know I'm my best self. Also, there's the overall, the overall male competition, the masculine competition that exists between us and between all men. So we live currently here. We've got me, my brother, my brother's personal trainers here. We got camera guys here. We've got war room guys here. We've got loads of guys here, but I can give you a million
Starting point is 00:27:04 examples. There was a record set, a next story of a gym and there's a stair machine and there was a record set of 188 floors within a timeframe. I came along and smashed it with 198. I only held the record for 45 minutes because someone beat it with 202. As soon as the record's beaten, everyone gets pissed off and puts their trainers on,
Starting point is 00:27:18 puts their shoes on. As soon as it's beaten, everyone gets mad. Who beat it, who beat it? And everyone goes and that's how you push yourself to the level, you'd never thought you'd be able to push yourself 202 floor is 30 minutes good luck No, no, no, no, that's what that was beaten with now. It's 222 And beaten again, I don't know I've ever get to that but I'm still one night. Yeah, I'm about trying it
Starting point is 00:27:39 But the point is when you have men around you there's that natural Masculine competition and that's what drives you. If you're going to be the best version of yourself, even if you're a boxer training for a fight, you train with a team. You train with other boxers, you train with other boxers or other trainers. If you're a football team, you're pushed by your team. I think life should be the same. Imagine you took the normal average man and you moved him into a house of five people and you had a philosopher and fitness expert and a hypnotist, whatever it was.
Starting point is 00:28:14 These will be, that will make him a more competitive person overall, because he's trying to compete with all the other people who are on his level. You don't want to take bitch position. So I don't like the idea of my life without masculine competition. That's what I'll always have to be my brother. If you met a girl one day who says, Tate, I want to have your babies live with you, but it's kind of weird that your brother is here. What would you say to her? Yeah, if you
Starting point is 00:28:36 have them, I said that. I offer some degree of compromise. I'm like, look, we can have our own house separate if you really want, but I'm going to be spending a lot of time at that other house, including nights over. I wanna stay with where my brother is. So you wanna compromise a little bit, but he's gonna be living next door with you. 100% one of the things. And I don't think, and that may be unusual in the Western world.
Starting point is 00:28:53 I don't think that's unusual in many places. I love that, by the way. You talk about this all the time. No, you don't even know how much I love that. Yeah, I love that. To me, as a kid, that was a dream. Like if you could, you know, right next to each other, there's a family in our community,
Starting point is 00:29:07 a billionaire family. They live right next to each other. The oldest son has the biggest house, 12,000 square feet. And the youngest son has the second biggest house, 8,000 square feet. And the parents live in a 6,000 square foot house. Right next to each other. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:29:22 Okay. The two boys have four kids. The eight kids are always together. Absolutely. What a great environment. Absolutely. Okay. The two boys have four kids. The eight kids are always together. Absolutely. What a great environment. Absolutely. It's a dream environment. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:29:30 I can't see how a person wouldn't buy into that. The benefits of it. And there's also benefits to the relationship. Because I think you have a better relationship with your woman. If she can go and talk with other women and be with women and I'm with guys and then you're together sometimes and you can split it out. It's better for everybody. This whole idea of just man, woman, boom, child, bang, I understand where it's come from.
Starting point is 00:29:49 I'm not saying it's all typically bad, but I do think that in those scenarios there's a lot of men who are particularly miserable, particularly men especially. And the idea of a clan and having that team around you, I love that. I wouldn't live any other way. I love living that way. Being born and raised in Miami, there's a lot of Latin culture there. And the American friends, they just move out, move on their own, that's what they do. But in Latin culture, the abuela is living in the house, the family is living in there,
Starting point is 00:30:15 the women are all kind of cooperating together. We can also discuss it financially, right? If you're a man and a woman and you have three boys and they're less a traditional western whatever, they all go and pay three different rents and they all move in with their girlfriends and everyone's getting wrecked, right? If you all stay together and combine your income, you also do much better financially. That's not what immigrants even survive, especially Muslim immigrants in England. I've heard you've told the story about that.
Starting point is 00:30:37 Absolutely, yeah, they all stay together in one big house, they all pool their incomes, you have a bunch of people with average jobs and for our reason the drive. And then they buy the house to earn, then they buy another, you pool the incomes, you have a bunch of people with average jobs and for a reason the drive. And then they buy the hellster in, then they buy another, you pool the incomes, if you all split and separate and just spread out, you're just paying all different rents, all different electricity bills and you just go broke. You have to think of the last name and the generation and the clan as a whole. So yeah, I love the idea of my brother. I'll never live without him. And yeah, his woman can move in. Of course, his kids can be around me. Of course, I'm uncle. Why not? I have
Starting point is 00:31:04 no problem with that. That's a dream. Let's transition to a couple of the topics. So I saw a video by the president of Microsoft, Brandon, I think it was a president of Microsoft who said, you're going to see one of the biggest threats in the future being deep fakes. And then you saw a similar thing being
Starting point is 00:31:22 set by Google, Sergey Brennan. You're going to see what's gonna happen with deep fakes. And then the example of deep fakes was given by the actress from Wonder Woman, what's her name? A gal Gadot, right? There was a deep fake porn made up her, then there was a deep fake video made up Trump,
Starting point is 00:31:41 and there's deep fake of Joe Rogan, there's one of Morgan Freeman. Hi, I am not Morgan Freeman. It kind of goes like this. So the direction we're going with deep fake, right? When it comes down to AI, where do you see the threat? Is that something you think about? Is that something you see as an opportunity as a threat? And if yes, which part of it? Yeah, that's a really interesting question. Deep fakes are certainly going to change the world because what we're going to have is we're going to have a post-truth society and then the only way they're going to be able to tell you what's true or not is some committee which decides what's true and what's a deep fake and then they're going to be in charge of the world
Starting point is 00:32:13 and then they're going to lie to you and then you're really in trouble. So that's going to be very interesting. Once you get to the point where what did I say earlier about not being able to trust your own eyes, they're going to take that away from us soon. Then what? Then you're really in trouble. the trust your own eyes. They're gonna take that away from us soon. Then what? Then you're really in trouble. In regards to AI, I think it has to be adopted. Inside of my school, Husses University, we teach AI with absolutely everything.
Starting point is 00:32:30 A lot of the images we generate, even on my Twitter account, is all AI. And what's actually scary about the modern world is, I don't consider myself old, I'm 36. But some of the children, children, I call them children, 17, 18 year olds inside of my school, Husses University, they're AI wizards, and they can do magic with this stuff. Magic.
Starting point is 00:32:48 Like they can literally genuinely and rotate on the moon. And the image is generated in seconds. Like artists are going out business. I thought AI would put truck drivers out business. Artists are going out business. Musicians are going out business. It's kind of scary.
Starting point is 00:33:01 I do like to think that with things like AI, there's always going to be some degree of natural separation between the men who are genuinely inventive and killers and the men who are more. Let me change the way I say that. I think if you're an exceptional person, a truly exceptional person, you don't have to be afraid of nearly anything.
Starting point is 00:33:19 But you'll probably agree with this. In my experience, in nearly every business in the world, you have 10% killers, and then you have a bunch who want the paycheck. They do their job, but I wouldn't say they're killers. You understand? And we really need a society for a long time where I can't even tell you now, sometimes when I hire, I'll say to my cousin or to my COL, I'll say, look, either get one killer or three normal people. Because that's the reality, that's the basic, you need three people to have to do the job or you need one killer to do the job. And I think those three people who have to do their jobs, enough to knock it fired, they
Starting point is 00:33:54 turn up most of the on time, but they're not really that motivated. Those are ones who have to fear AI. I think businesses in the medium term are going to become killers and AI. I tell them now I have some guys who work for me on one particular company and their sales staff. I was reading through the sales scripts. The killers doing really well. But the average guys that said you're not doing much better than chat JPLT could do right
Starting point is 00:34:14 now. I want to warn you that you're not doing much better that I could replace you with a machine today. Let alone five years from now. For free. You need to be careful. So I think it's just becoming more and more competitive. The idea that you can just be Joe Schmo,
Starting point is 00:34:26 do your job, turn up, I don't try that hard, it's fine. I think that's all gonna go out the window because as the world becomes more competitive, as a company, you have to compete with your competitors and the only way you're gonna be able to do that is just where do you cut the flat, fat? Where do you cut the flat? When I see AI popping up and getting more intelligent
Starting point is 00:34:40 and the way it's talking, that doesn't scare me, by the way with words. And if I was Joe Schmo, I'd be afraid. This chat GPT can probably text your girl where you can. You probably get laid faster than you. It's a little advice for the guys out there. Just plug it in your phone. It'll do better than you do.
Starting point is 00:34:58 So that's scary. So that's hilarious. I think that's what the average man really needs to struggle. And I've been saying, this has been my message for a very long time in all realms. I've said for a very long time that life what the average man really needs to struggle. And I've been saying, this has been my message for a very long time in all realms. I've said for a very long time that life for the average man is going to get harder and harder. It's becoming more and more competitive. You need to find more and more ways to stand out and be unique.
Starting point is 00:35:15 And the only way to really do those things, unfortunately, as a man, is to suffer. And that's one of the reasons I'm kind of glad that God put me in jail, because if you look at anything that builds a man into a man, there's a degree of suffering. It's very hard to become a man and have a man who's respected and has stories and is capable when he only had a nice life and nice experiences. It's usually the things that made you the best version of you or usually the worst things that happened to you. So the demons I carry from jail, the fact I can't sleep.
Starting point is 00:35:42 The fact I can't sleep, I've had girls say to me, you can't sleep, you need to see a psychiatrist. And I said, absolutely not. I would be furious if a psychiatrist walked in here and took my demons from me. I don't care if they could fix me with a click, their mind. And they were bestowed to me by God. And they were mine to deal with, and their mind to fix. Because that's how I've become a better version of me. I would be furious if someone took them away from me.
Starting point is 00:36:01 I'm glad I can't sleep. Good, I can train endlessly. That's why I'm bigger than I've ever been. I'll train every, I'm not gonna waste a minute. But all the demons that have been given to me by God, all the problems that have been given to me by God are mine to fix. I would never ever allow anybody else to take them from me.
Starting point is 00:36:14 I'd be furious. If a psychologist came in and said, I could cure you, I'd say, no, thank you. I will cure myself. I don't care if it takes 10 years. I'll cure myself, that's my job. And I know that when that's done, I will be more mentally resilient
Starting point is 00:36:25 than I ever would have been without you. That's the whole point of it, right? So many men say, I want to be the man, but they don't want to suffer, they don't want to fight, and I don't understand why, because even if you look at a superhero movie, they tell you, even in superhero movies, they make it very clear, Batman's parents died.
Starting point is 00:36:42 That's why he's Batman. All the bad things have to happen. There's no way to get there without the bad things. I get so many emails from people complaining about their bad things. I don't have time to reply to any of them, but if I could, I'd say good. Good luck. Congratulations. Off you go. Of course you broke your heart. Of course you're sad. Of course you miss her. She's with me now. That's life. That's part of it. That's the only way you're going to get to that level of resilience. You can't become the man in the other way. So yeah, I thank God for everything bad that's ever happened to me and all the demons and I
Starting point is 00:37:13 I trust that he's not going to give me anything I cannot in the end decipher and deal with. In the end, I think it's a puzzle and you decipher it and you work out the best way to deal with it and you internalize the good parts and you become a better and stronger and more resilient person for it. So I have to thank God for every single one of them. Well, I mean, you gotta go through shit to be the shit. It's what basically what it is. And by the way, what you're saying is not an hypothetical. You talk about being the average man. You see this play out on dating apps these days.
Starting point is 00:37:39 If you've seen what's happened, especially on Instagram and on all the dating apps, hinge, bumble, and out there. The top guys out there are getting 90% of the women, whereas the bottom guys, hinge, bumbling out there, the top guys out there are getting 90% of the women, whereas the bottom guys, I think the stats are third of men under 30 have not been laid in a year. If being average is not acceptable anymore. At all. It's not acceptable anymore, and it's not acceptable
Starting point is 00:37:57 in the sexual marketplace, but it's also just not acceptable. I don't think even in life anymore. Period. You have to diversify now so much to even protect yourself. The idea that you can just be a law abiding citizen in a country and just work your job and be okay is gone. It's gone. If COVID doesn't prove that, I don't know what will.
Starting point is 00:38:13 Look at my situation. You have to diversify. You have to be smart enough that you have assets and friends and capability and lawyers and whatever all over the world now. Let's you only way to protect yourself. You can't just sit within one jurisdiction and go, oh, well, but I don't speed, so it's going to be okay. I don't think it is.
Starting point is 00:38:29 I think it's coming to a point where it's not going to be okay. And AI is going to make it harder and harder, again, for those average men. It's going to be harder and harder. I don't think the exceptional men are ever going to suffer from AI. I think we're going to use AI. Do you think this whole neural link that Elon Musk
Starting point is 00:38:43 just got the approval for for the patent? So now the sale is gonna be look no matter what you do John you will never be like Andrew Tate Yeah, but if you take neural length GT 500 slash Tate You're able to get upgraded to his levels and think like him and I'll think and do this and do that for only 49,000 hours It's scary. It's just chipping your head and then you're going to be scared off of this to you. My mother always says to me, I'm glad I'm not young.
Starting point is 00:39:13 I'm starting to say that now, I'm glad I'm not young. Because I'm telling you, it's going to be scary, right? Because the world is hyper competitive. Every single thing in the world is competition. I don't think people realize I'm a hyper competitive person because I understand that every single thing I want somebody else wants. The girl I want other people want, the car I want other people want, the house I want, the lifestyle, the jet, every single thing you want somebody else wants. It's a massive competition. It has a menu of two choices. You either accept that as
Starting point is 00:39:37 a massive competition and try and play the game or you just try and pretend it's not a competition and live in perpetual failure. And it's going to become hyper competitive. The world already is, you're not going to be able to compete with a person with a computer brain. So you're going to have to have it, because you can't compete. And once you have it, then who knows? And they turn it off? I don't know. Can they turn you off? I don't know. Can they inject the slave mine programming directly through the chip? I don't know. That's scary. I would never want to do that. But it's going to get to a point where you're not even a person without it.
Starting point is 00:40:05 You can't function without it. You're a second-class citizen without it. What happens to competition then is it going to be whoever has access to the best technology, whoever has the most recent upgraded version of XYZ neural link chip? Absolutely. It's going to become scary.
Starting point is 00:40:20 I'm glad I'm not young. I hope it doesn't happen while I'm alive. I don't know. It's going to be an interesting world. Does it inspire you to want to have more kids? Or are you like, that's indifferent? I'm going to have the kids. I'm glad I'm not young. I hope it doesn't happen while I'm alive. I don't know It's gonna be it's gonna be an interesting world. There's it does it inspire you want to have more kids or you're like That's indifferent. I'm gonna have the kids. I'm not worried about that. I think yeah I think they I think in the 1700s are probably saying the same thing the future is over and the future ain't that bad So there'll be a way it will work out. I just have to instill within them the same values I have and they'll find a way to work it out and and hopefully they'll be okay
Starting point is 00:40:42 But you always say the future looks bright. I mean, you must be concerned. You've got four kids. I would have 20 more right now, if I could. I would have 20 more kids, right? I don't know how you feel about it. I'd have 20 more kids right now if I could. Absolutely, absolutely love children. There's nothing bad about having children.
Starting point is 00:40:56 The only thing I wish I did is start earlier. It's the only thing I wish I'd do. Well, listen, right now, I don't know if you know, if you need some inspiration, there's this guy named El Pacino. No, I saw that. Well, the kid at 82, I saw that know if you know if you need some inspiration there's a Skyrim al Pacino. Well, it hit at 82, I just grow was 29 years old and the Neuro had it at 79. Wow, well, so it's never too late.
Starting point is 00:41:12 You're 30 years old. If you got the testosterone level of 32, I'm sure you can have 20 more kids. Oh, okay. Politics, let's talk politics with America. You're seeing what's going on with the election. One of the vantage points you have is you're not there. It's kind of like it's your problem. You guys deal with it.
Starting point is 00:41:28 I'm over here on this side. From your perspective, YouTube comes out. Hey, all the election stuff you guys talked about, that we would ban it and take it down. You guys can talk about it now, because we want a balanced argument from both sides. Okay, no problem. Who do you see, what are your thoughts on the Trump today, 2024 dissentist? Biden, how do you see this thing going up?
Starting point is 00:41:53 Politics is so interesting, it's so messy. I mean, obviously I'm a Trump supporter, I believe in Trump. I like dissentist and the things he did. I'm not gonna choose between Trump or dissentist. I think if one of them, if any of them won, it would be fantastic for the world. I think YouTube taking a back step
Starting point is 00:42:08 is actually extremely important symbolically. To be interesting to see if they keep that up, post this election, seeing what happens with this election. That would be very interesting. But I think it's certainly a massive symbolic step back. I remember when I got canceled. Nobody talked about Rumble, nobody talked about Kick, nobody talked about even you got value team
Starting point is 00:42:26 It no disrespect. You were a lot smaller than the new hour now. It's crazy how fast Alternatives have popped up and I'm only saying this because I do feel like I literally said I remember my exact words I said there's pressure behind the dam Everyone's tired of it. All it takes is a crack and when there's a crack There'll be a flood and the crack of the dam will be a man who is more famous once he's canceled than he was before he was canceled. That's what I said. Now they're trying to put me in jail,
Starting point is 00:42:49 which is making me more famous again. I'm not saying it's all because of me, but I'm saying there's definitely a public consciousness switch where the arbitrators of truth are having to backstep now. They've overused their power. They overstep their power exactly what we said they would. And now they're allowing open discourse.
Starting point is 00:43:03 So I hope that America has a free and fair election. That's what I'm praying for. I think every country should have a free and fair election, especially when we're going to fly fighter jets and drop $500,000 bombs on farmers who've never made $5 in their day and end of the guise of democracy. If we're going to bother to do that, then we should at least have a democracy ourselves. So, I think a free and fair election will be interesting and I think the will of the people should be done and that's how America was built and founded and that's what I would like to see. And I do think that America does lead the public consciousness overall as a whole.
Starting point is 00:43:31 I know what you're saying about me being over here but I do think that which side wins does have an overreaching effect overall on the entire planet. America's still the most powerful country on earth. It'd be very interesting to see what happens in 2024. We'll put it that way. Crazy question for you. He gets approached all the time. P.B.D. when you're running. When you're running, P.B.D. He goes, listen. I'll vote for you, bro.
Starting point is 00:43:51 Yeah, he goes, listen. I was born in Iran, made in America. I can't run. Well, when you're going to, well, you were born in America in your state. I was, yeah. You were raised in the, in Luton, UK. You lived in Romania.
Starting point is 00:44:03 But you are an American citizen. I have no idea. Dream with me first. I have no idea. You were President of the United States, Andrew Tate. What would that look like? I have no idea what it would be like to be President, but I have a feeling what Putin said about the Presidents might be true.
Starting point is 00:44:15 Did you ever see what Putin said? Yes. Eight years in coming goal. I've seen three Presidents. I've seen a lot of Presidents come and go and they all come with these grand ideas, but once they get in in office the people with the briefcases and the dark suits come in and sit them down because of the strong bureaucracy inside of the United States and explain to them how things are done And they never seem to get their ideas done. They never seem to do the things they said they were going to do. You can't trump in there. I think Trump tried his very best to resist that and that's why he's in a situation.
Starting point is 00:44:40 That's why they're taking him to court for no reason. That's why he was matrix attacked. I mean if Trump's okay, let's cut the garlic. I's why they're taking him to court for no reason. That's why he was Matrix attacked. I mean, if Trump's, okay, let's cut the guardly, I'm going back to jail anyway, probably with this Matrix guy, then I'm trying to kill me anyway. They probably are. If Trump's situation isn't a Matrix attack, what is?
Starting point is 00:44:56 What if they just hit him with a New York? Some defamation for defending himself against a lie? Is that, if that's not a Matrix attack, tell me what is possibly else. Anyone who's sitting out here who actually truly believes that the matrix doesn't exist has no idea how the world works. The media machine and the legal system work hand in hand
Starting point is 00:45:14 to try and slander people's name and convince you enough, convince the populace enough that they're guilty so there's no revolt so they can hit them with a guilty plea. They've already decided before all of it. It's all a plan. There's many months of negative news, then we'll hit them with this. We'll get them guilty for this. And with this many months of negative news, the populace will probably swallow it. Scarbage. It's a matrix attack from head to toe. How much do you see yourself in Trump?
Starting point is 00:45:37 And do you use your words first? They try to cancel you? He was canceled. Then they try to throw you in jail. He's dealing with lawsuits. Lastly, they try to put a bullet in your head. Well, Trump's lucky because he's a bit older. So Trump will try and outlast him. They'll wait. My problem is I'm a bit young, you know? And I also think the reason I feel particularly at risk, and I say these things on podcasts to protect myself,
Starting point is 00:45:57 and I don't want anyone to think I'm paranoid or crazy, because I really don't believe I am. The reason I think I'm particularly at risk is for the thing you just said. It's the masculine youth who are my fans. It's the 11-year-olds, 12-year-olds, 15-year-olds, 16-year-olds. They are the future of the world. They're the people you want to go and die in of ditch. They're the soldiers you need. Those are the people you need, Syopt. You need them, Syopt. You can't have a bunch of men who aren't Syopt. That's
Starting point is 00:46:20 when you lose control of everything when the men don't listen anymore. And they're all listening to me. And I'm teaching them things like God, religion, personal responsibility, accountability, discipline. And everyone's saying, well, why are they attacking Andrew for just telling the truth and making me go to the gym? Because when you have these things, when you have accountability and discipline and personal responsibility, you have a barrier, you have a parameter, you have a no, you have a limit. They don't wait at a limit. None of the men are allowed limits.
Starting point is 00:46:42 We must accept whatever we are given from our relationship with our woman, from the government, from our job. We're just slaves. We're the backbone of the tax bracket. We have to shut up and pay our taxes. As soon as we have limits, they have a problem. That's why they dislike the things I teach. What do I really say?
Starting point is 00:46:59 What do I really teach young kids as genuine damage? What do I say? Go to the gym, stick up for yourself. Stick up for yourself. Go to the gym. you're allowed an opinion. Educate yourself, be smart, work hard, believe in things, believe in yourself. Have friends, have strong friends around you. Don't listen to dishonest men or dishonest women.
Starting point is 00:47:16 It's not misogynistic to say dishonest people. Non-gendered should be anywhere near you. You should have standards for who's your friend. Standards for who you have relationships with romantically, whether you're gay or straight. You should have standards for who's your friend. Standards for who you have relationships with romantically, whether you're gay or straight. You should have standards. Telling men to have standards is not wrong thing. Because if students have standards, they lose control. They don't want any man to have any standard on anything.
Starting point is 00:47:35 They want to come along and say, no, you need to ate injection, take it. So they want. I think that's the saddest thing that's happened to you is because anybody that listens to your long-form content, not 60 seconds on TikTok, fully understands that you're an advocate for male self-improvement. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:47:49 Get out of depression, work your ass off, be coachable, make money, get women, enjoy the finer things in life. But they will take little things you say in labial massage-ness, labial show-in-est, and that's the tip of the iceberg of minor things you say when you really are a male it's weaponized virtue but also you can't have an opinion on any kind of differences or differentiation without them now calling you a misogynist. If I believe a woman is better at raising young children than a man I would never drop my child off to a nursery run by men. I think that would be weird. I would never take my two or three-year-old girl and drop her off in a
Starting point is 00:48:22 nursery which was male run. I would only bring her to a nursery, which is female. No, but you hire a babysitter, that's a boy. Neither, never. Am I, do I hate men? No. I just believe that in war a man should go and raising a children, may perhaps woman should go. I just believe in the same things
Starting point is 00:48:37 that everybody believed in 10 years ago. The world is going nuts. 10 years ago, everything I'm saying was standardized and accepted and normal. And they're taking this misogynist garbage and weaponizing the virtue and trying to attack me with it and they don't even believe in it. It's truly upsetting, but I just can't be quiet because I don't know how I couldn't live as anyone else other than me.
Starting point is 00:48:59 I couldn't live as a man who wasn't trying to be his best self. Let's stay on this. So you said, President, then you brought in Putin. So then that discourages for somebody that you think they can make a real change. So two question. One, if you are the president today, I'm sure you thought about it.
Starting point is 00:49:19 What policies would you attack? Right now in America, I watched RFK. I don't know if you listened to the recording yesterday. I heard, yeah the recording yesterday what he said about the angle he would take with Farmer he says all this things we're talking about guns he says how is it that we have the same amount of guns as Switzerland does per capita but Switzerland hasn't had a school shooting in 21 years we had a 21 hours ago and we just have one last night by the way, big one, I don't know, Virginia, I want to say, right? Seven people shot just yesterday, right? Every day, they're so mean.
Starting point is 00:49:49 You tell them off fentanyl, you're talking about the drugs, you're talking about LGBTQ, you're talking about military industrial complex, economy, taxes, what would be top three issues you would attack if you were a president today? And that's so interesting, because before I answered that question, it ties back into what we're saying earlier about men's mental health. They pretend they give a shit about men's mental health. But if you come along and actually advocate and tell men how to be happier, I've been a sad man and a happy man. I am a man.
Starting point is 00:50:16 I know exactly how it feels on all ranges of emotion. I'll be honest with you right now. When a man is sad, yeah, there is an inclination towards aggression. That's how we're born, it's how we're evolved. We're evolved with that inclination towards aggression. We need that to protect and provide. That's who we are. We need that bravery. But having a bunch of depressed sad men who have no emotional control is dangerous for society. I say this all the time, they try and pretend that I'm somehow dangerous for society by telling men to stand
Starting point is 00:50:39 up for themselves and be masculine. Absolutely not really not. When you tell a man to have no emotional control and be more feminine, that's the school shooter. A school shooter is not a man with masculine accountability. He's a man who's told, act how you feel all the time. Then he gets picked on for long enough, throw on some drugs on top of his psychiatrist gave him, throw in a lack of a girlfriend, and he's not enough. That's where school shooting comes from.
Starting point is 00:51:01 School shooting does not come from men being masculine. It comes from the absolute opposite of these things. And they know this. They know this very, very well. To fix society, we have to fix that at the most base level, the root level. I think America and most countries need more transparency and understanding of how things work.
Starting point is 00:51:16 But when they're attacking the family unit, they're attacking all of these issues. Every issue you've just labeled all starts down back down to the beginning. I really think the reason I would like to argue, and I don't know any of the statistics on this, in the 1950s, I'm sure there was prevalence of guns all around America,
Starting point is 00:51:29 but there just wasn't the school shirt and why? What was different? What was different in the years before that there is now? I think it's just because children obeyed their parents, and their parents were a family, and there was a degree of responsibility that was instilled inside of people, and there's a degree of accountability,
Starting point is 00:51:44 and there also there was a degree of honor and pride. Great question. There's a degree of responsibility that was instilled inside of people and there's a degree of accountability and there also there was a degree of honor and pride. There's a degree of honor and pride. I'll tell you something now. I bet in the 60s, 70s, whatever, in any country in the world, people didn't want to do dumb shit because the family would be known as criminals. The last name would be tarnished. Their son did this. You hear what their son did. There was a whole, there was a vested interest in all of it.
Starting point is 00:52:06 Now you have a school shooter who's gonna go out there, be a piece of shit and kill people, and then their parents are on TV a while, yeah, he was failed by the system. They didn't feel any shame. It's unbelievable. If one of my children or someone close to me did something that heinous, I would be disgusted.
Starting point is 00:52:20 I would apologize just for the sake, just for the name alone. There's no honor left. There's no pride left in the name. And this is what happens when you remove honor and pride from people. You have no honor and no pride. Nothing really matters.
Starting point is 00:52:31 What matters anyway? It doesn't matter if you're out of shape. It doesn't matter if your kids are piece of shit and a criminal. Nothing matters without honor and pride. And this is done on absolutely every level. I said this to Tristan the other day. I was actually saying we were driving
Starting point is 00:52:42 well, the other day, a long time ago. I haven't left the house in a while. We were driving and I said, even on the most base level, I said, every building is ugly. If you notice that every new building is ugly, it's ugly. Which is because, yeah, it's all the same glass big square ugly building. In the 1400s, we built these ornate gorgeous buildings. And now everything is ugly. Why is that?
Starting point is 00:53:04 And while I tell you why it is, it's because they don't want you to have any intrinsic attachment to a specific place. If all the buildings are beautiful in a specific town, you have intrinsic attachment to that town. You care about that town. You want good things to that town. You'll protect that town.
Starting point is 00:53:17 You'll defend that town. What is that? That's a barrier, that's a parameter. If everything looks the same all the time, it'll just move. Who cares? Oh, they messed up San Fran, who goes on to move somewhere else. Let's move somewhere else. So all the same, globalism doesn't matter. It's all the same all the time, it'll just move. Who cares? Oh, they messed up San Fran, who gets out of the mood somewhere else. Let's move somewhere else.
Starting point is 00:53:26 All the same, globalism doesn't matter. It's all the same. Buildings in Berlin and New York, they all look the same. Where's all the beauty going? When there's beauty, you have attachment to that beauty. They want to remove all your attachments from everything. Even now, when they try and sialp you into, let's say, the way that models all look different than they used to before.
Starting point is 00:53:45 Right? Models all look different. Victoria's secret. Yeah, and I was arguing this point. So I'm saying, oh, but that's because you have Eurocentric beauty standards. I said, no. I'm going to correct you. So I know you think you sound smart using the word Eurocentric.
Starting point is 00:53:55 I'm going to correct you because you're a dumbass. Let me tell you what beauty standards are. Beauty standards by definition, for something to be beautiful, has to at least be unique. If everything is beautiful, that's not beautiful. If everything is beautiful, then it's standardized. For you to take a model who looks the way they look, without any effort at all, and they look like most out of shape,
Starting point is 00:54:14 uninteresting people on the street, you cannot call that beautiful because it's standardized, you can see it everywhere. Beauty means it must have been difficult to obtain. Whether it's a building, it's difficult to make because it's ornate or a woman who's trained really hard that a beautiful figure that is difficult difficulty and beauty or linked. You can't have beauty without difficulty. You cannot show me another model and tell me that my ure a centric beauty standards are saying she isn't hot because
Starting point is 00:54:37 that's not why. She isn't hot because she's made no effort. She hasn't tried. That's why. And they're doing this with everything. Everything is ugly. Nothing has a standard. Nobody has to try for anything. No parameter, no baseline belief of what's true and what's false. Everything's subjective. You're truth. No, there's the truth. There's no such thing as your truth. And this is an attack on every single level. There are assaulting us from everywhere. Even the buildings they build are assaulting you so you can't even just drive through a town and go, wow, look how much energy has been put into this place. I love this place. I will not allow them to do it to this place. Now it's just like, ah, we can move there.
Starting point is 00:55:15 Ah, let's move there. It all the same anyways. It's all Starbucks on the corner in a 7-Eleven. Who cares? It's all the same. Why fight? Why fight for any of it? This is all done purposely.
Starting point is 00:55:24 I'm telling you, there's, McCallman conspiracy theorists call me crazy. I don't understand why an architect would now decide, who hire is an architect? I'm gonna build up building. Let me hire an architect. To come up with the same sketch of the same bullshit building, which is already existing everywhere.
Starting point is 00:55:39 How much did I pay him? Yeah, what we're gonna do is we build a skyscraper made of grass that looks like every other one. Is that it? We did all this 600 years ago, we built're going to do is we build a skyscraper made of grass. It looks like every other one. Is that it? We did all this 600 years ago. We built cathedrals and now we build this crap. Why? Everything is on purpose.
Starting point is 00:55:51 It's all a sial. It's all a sial. When they put in these models on there, the sial is you don't have to try. You don't have to try anything. Don't try. It doesn't matter. Just don't try. Wait for the government.
Starting point is 00:56:03 We'll give you some food stamps. You'll be okay. It's slavery. It's slavery. When you need to do every single thing they say to eat, that's their end goal. That's what they want. It's slavery. They don't want you trying anything. Even going to the gym today is an act of rebellion. Even being in good physical condition is an act of rebellion. If I put up a photo of me. Even being in good physical condition is an act of rebellion. If I put up a photo of me and I'm in good physical shape, there are people who write underneath it, oh you're dumb, you train so they insult you for it. Like it's a you're a bad person because you
Starting point is 00:56:34 have standards for yourself. That's the level of bug man they want to get you to. Of course, these people will give up meat and eat the bugs and live in the pod. Of course they will. They have no standards, they have no self respect, no standards. Of course they can live in an ugly building, a big ugly matrix pod for all they want. Is it somebody else to sell you on that? Or is it going back to conditioning? Well what would it be? Is it someone selling you or is it a condition? And it goes back to my original point about the family. I do believe that a reason we didn't have so many problems before is because I believe the families had standards. And some cultures still do. I have friends who are Chinese. My dad, I cannot not get in a. That's just their culture. When my dad was
Starting point is 00:57:14 still alive and he was teaching chess, my dad would charge four or five hundred dollars an hour for chess lessons. And towards the end of his life, he goes, all of my students are Chinese or Indian. Nobody else wants to spend money, five hundred dollars an hour at Tisha Kitschess. Only the Chinese and Indians will spend that money to make sure their kid is that good. So that's it. They're the ones who invest the most in their children. They still care on that level. But most families don't wake up and go, ah, I want my children to act a certain way for the legacy, for the family name as a whole. I'm instilling standards upon them because of the last name. My entire life I've had standards instilled upon me. My entire life, your last name's tape, you can't do that. Your last name's
Starting point is 00:57:50 tape, you're not allowed to do that. Your last name's tape, but hit him back. I've been like that my whole life. And now we've removed all standards from everybody. This is why you get school shooters. These school shooters should be too embarrassed to even embarrass their fathers. They should wake up and go, I would never do this to my family. And I'll also, this is definitely gonna get me canceled, but I'm gonna say, because it's true, I'll say it by extension for suicide. I don't care what you do to me.
Starting point is 00:58:15 I'm Andrew Tate, I cannot kill myself, I can't. I'm not allowed. It's against, it's against a creed of my last name. I didn't have ancestors who suffered how they suffered, who went through what they went through for me to be born to kill myself. That's not why, that's not the end of my story. I refuse, I absolutely refuse. Remember how bad it gets or what bad situation I'm in.
Starting point is 00:58:34 I refuse to do it because I have too much respect for my last name. I won't do it. And I think that a lot of things, a lot of men's mental health, a lot of crises can actually just come back to the old outages of honor. And you can fix a lot of it. Your girl left you, you miss her.
Starting point is 00:58:52 I get it. We've all been heartbroken. She's with a new guy. You're upset. She doesn't care. You care. I get all of it. But there has to be a point where you get to a level of pride and you just go, that's
Starting point is 00:59:02 not who I am. I lost her. That's life. You're just get to a level of pride and you just go, that's not who I am. I lost her, that's life. You're just good to get on with it. And the best way is to have, where do you find the strength when you're in these difficult situations? I always find the strength from my last name.
Starting point is 00:59:14 I'm agitate. I'm agitate, so I just have to do. I'm in a Romanian jail cell. I wake up, there's cockroaches in my bed. They're all over my face. What am I gonna do? Cry? Well, am I a bitch out?
Starting point is 00:59:24 Am I gonna go inside a piece of paper and say I'm guilty? I'm gonna sell my brother out. Is that what am I gonna do? Cry? Well, am I a bitch out? Am I gonna go inside a piece of paper and say I'm guilty? I'm gonna sell my brother out? Is that what I'm gonna do? Am I gonna go fuck it, lie and put these and sell the girls out like they want me to? Am I gonna stay it up and say, I'm sorry for saying go to the gym, like a pussy? No, I'm gonna take the cockroaches off my mouth.
Starting point is 00:59:39 I'm gonna do some push ups, because I'm Andrew Tate. When shit really gets hard, honor, encourage, and bravery, and your last name is all you've ever had.ups, because I'm gonna take. When shit really gets hard, honor, encourage, and bravery in your last name is all you've ever had. It's all you're gonna have. And it used to be like that in the olden days. That's why no one did this dumb shit. They were just too embarrassed to even do it.
Starting point is 00:59:55 And that's why you're saying, how do we fix the country? Absolutely all that comes down to the fact that, especially with men, none of them are bestowed with the things that the masculine essence needs to be a good man. especially with men, none of them are bestowed with the things
Starting point is 01:00:04 that the masculine essence needs to be a good man.

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