PBD Podcast - Anthony Weiner MELTDOWN | PBD Podcast | Ep. 287

Episode Date: July 20, 2023

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I Can identify I'm the one. You can identify as any of you know this. Oh, you're saying I shouldn't use the New Year's word. You can use whatever word you want. Six word live. Okay, guys, let's, if you're here, I, Anthony, we're live, buddy. So if you're, if you guys were here the last five minutes, you would have really enjoyed what just happened here last five minutes.

So this is almost called a blind date because Anthony it's fair to say you know nothing about our podcast. Not true. On the plane I listened to a couple of the last few minutes. What did you listen to? Which one did you listen to? I listened to a little bit of Jeffrey Tuban and I couldn't I'd travel plowing through 11 minute question that you started with. I so I didn't get it. I didn't hang around for what he had to say. I listened to last week some guy named Rubin, Dave Rubin. Dave Rubin.

It was, yeah, there was a hockey player. Yeah, yeah, he's a hockey player. Very, very good hockey player for you. Actually, great basketball player. We are. From LA, you played hockey in a small little league with his friends. Okay. He was, he was a hockey player, you know, say he played real hockey.

Well, it was second cousin to Mess, but I mean, he's related. Some little bit with David. Second cousin to Messier. Did he do a rubber cannon? Well, okay, well, listen to him. That was interesting. Listen to this. Off the wall take on RFK, which I put was hilarious. But, um, but I listen to a few. You guys do a great job here. It's a great. I mean, I'm thrilled to be here because I'm new, I'm relatively new to media, the business.

And so I wanted to see what this model was all about. So for the audience who doesn't know who Anthony Wiener is, I want to kind of give an intro because you're a show, you got a show going on right now called the middle with Anthony Wiener. And it was a time that everybody and anybody saw you. Right, give me a little more oxygen. I'm in 77 to be BBC radio in New York,

50,000 watts, your channel, powerful AM radio, but a very different model than this. We just did it. Okay, give it to us again, you're in 77 markets. No, no, 770. You see, so this is AM Terrestrial Radio, which might be mysterious to some of your audience. I could still old school Terrestrial Radio.

It is the Iconic WABC's, the Iconic Radio Station been around for about 100 years. It's going through a lot of different things. And recently a guy named John Katzmitides, you know that name at all? No. He is, started out in supermarkets in New York, then went into oil and he's a billionaire. And so he bought the station off to scrap heap. And but it's terrestrial radio.

It's not, it's old fashioned over the air. And people stream it and everything else, but the podcast part of it is, in all of shoot, we have it, but it's really old fashioned recalls and that, you know, calls and that kind of thing. So we do that and then also we have like some podcast stuff. I gotta tell you, man, I remember every other second we turned on the TV was a story about you. Every day you were on, it was mathematically impossible

to go together. Long time ago, but the audience who doesn't need to kind of know, so let me kind of properly introduce you, Anthony David Weiner, is an American formal politician who served as the US representative for New York's ninth congressional district from 1999 to his resignation in 2011. Remember the Democratic Party consistently carried

the district with at least 60% of the vote. Weiner resigned from Congress June of 2011 after it was revealed. He's sincerely suggestive photos of himself to different women. A two-time candidate for mayor of New York City, Weiner finished second in Democratic primary in 2005. A lot of people wanted you to actually become the mayor,

and it was super close. Ran again in 2013, placed 15 Democratic primary in 2017, you pleaded guilty for transferring obscene material to a minor and was sentenced to 21 months in prison. He was also required to permanently register as a sex offender. Weiner began serving as federal prison sentence. The same year was released in prison. He was also required to permanently register as a sex offender. Weiner began serving as federal prison sentence. The same year was released in 2019. And now you have a radio show with the middle with Anthony Weiner. And it's available on iTunes. You can follow him on Twitter, which is what? Rep Weiner, if I'm saying it correctly.

And you also got a YouTube channel called Ask Anthony Weiener. We can put all that stuff below. That's all, yeah, that's kind of dated, that stuff. So I got to tell you, I watched your documentary last night, Admidnight. I've never seen it. What do you think of it? A few things, you're very weird. I mean, that's very obvious. You're a very weird, interesting guy.

But I'm going to tell you one thing about it. That's a kind of adjective. We're just getting to know each other. They already call me weird. We barely know each other. I think the opportunity to you one thing about it. I'm going to tell you one thing about it. I'm going to tell you one thing about it. I'm going to tell you one thing about it. I'm going to tell you one thing about it. I'm going to tell you one thing about it. I'm going to tell you one thing about it.

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They already called me weird. We barely know each other. I think reading a book called 40 Laws of Power, and when Lyndon Johnson was campaigning, the story's about what he did, how relentless he was, morning, night, drive-in, walking, knocking, on the doors of love or hate, LBJ. A lot of people can't stand the guy for many different reasons who were JFK guys, but they busted their ass.

So if you're asking me about how I really felt about you from the non-opinion side, you're a badass campaigner. There's no question about that. You worked your ass off. You went and shook hands. By the way, something a lot of people are now doing today. Some people on the Republicans are now doing today. I don't know if that's right, though.

I think that the thing that many Americans don't realize about the political system is that when you, if you're going to get a look, some guys have a ton of money, you know, who can basically can just buy advertising, but most elections are not waged on TV or radio when they start, like most congressional races. You've got to go out there and hustle, you've got to knock on doors. And if you want to, the great thing about our democracy is the great equalizer is the ability. Everyone has 700,000 members of people in their district, but if you're running for a city council or mayor or a state senate race, you can get up in the morning and just hustle more than the other guy.

And just like every other business in life, I would argue, that gives you, it's not equalizers and exaggeration. Because obviously you have a bunch of money you're gonna or if you have a famous name but that kind of thing that might have been seen and I didn't see the documentary but the portrayal that a lot of you don't see it you didn't see it what in my own it's about me I live that I didn't you don't watch you haven't seen it that really what was the reason you need to watch it couple of reasons one is that I didn't I wanted to have the ability to income moments like this to say I hadn't seen it.

I'm serious, I've got it. I've got it. I guess that's one way. Like I just didn't, I had no really interest in reliving something that I had lived so intimately and that still had a lot of wounds to it. And then there are processing things that, I don't know if you care about, the guy who made it

was a former staffer of mine. And he put my wife in it without her consent. And he did it because he knew that her boss was running for president. We wouldn't, she wasn't going to sue him. And so I thought it was a really dishonorable thing to do. And so I wouldn't, I held a grudge a little bit. So, but they're getting back to the point, Patrick,

that I think that one of the things that a good documentary shows is something that people don't see it for a splush. And if it portray the idea that a good politician or any politician can level the point when I ran for city council in New York City, I didn't have any country club connections to go to. I didn't have a bunch of money, a middle class kid, my mom was a school teacher, but I got up every morning at 5.30 and I stood at the subways until 9. And then I went to the supermarkets and walked the aisles and then I knocked on doors and the high rises. And I was able to win by a couple hundred votes. And that was the path that I took.

But I think a lot of politicians, people, the politicians that people know from their own neighborhoods probably started out that way. So where's the disagreement? You said I disagree. I was saying you busted your ass. No, I'm saying, it's that unusual. That I'm just saying that that's...

I think it's very unusual. I think a lot of guys think money is enough. We saw that in a lot of different places. Even today, RFK, I don't know how you feel about RFK. If you would have said six months ago, RFK is going to get this much attention or Vivek is going to get this much attention. These guys are out working pretty much

every one of their competitors, the way they're campaigning. And I'll just direct question to you. What do you think about what RFK's been doing? He's been getting a lot of attention on podcasts from a lot of middle-aged white guys who are fascinated with him. He's getting pumped up by Republicans who see him as a troublemaker, and he's getting

more and more trouble. The higher, what do they say, the higher the monkey climbs, the more you can see his ass. Every time he turns around, he's getting it deeper and deeper, and whatever mission that he had is ending in failure. So would you say Silicon Valley is Republican or Democrat? Most of Silicon Valley money? Well, I didn't know what his money situation is, and it's almost doesn't matter. I mean, look, I did a podcast about him and Christy, two people who are apparently running

to help the other party that they claim to be trying to run at help. So, but it's irrelevant. Every campaign season, we have the same thing, and it's particularly acute now, that we are kind of bored with who we have, and so the media loves to pump oxygen into people who probably don't deserve it in Kennedy. It's just, I mean, look, it's Kennedy, the name, Kennedy, the... You don't like him? You don't like... I don't know him, I don't know him, I've never been personally.

I mean, I think he's selling books pretty clear to me. That's all he's doing. You think he's selling books? Okay. You use something like the higher monkey climbs, the more you see his ass. I'm getting the vibe you're not a fan. Well, I wouldn't... Look, the guy...

He's a conspiracy, charlatan. I do a show where I try to take people steps back and I find that Venn diagram where people who are interested in both sides of the aisle but they want to have a conversation based on substance and based on facts. He's not doing that. He's a conspiracy theorist. I don't hold them in high resort. I think he's been very substantive of a lot of things he's saying about guns, drugs, a lot of the crypto community is an advocate of him. Which is ironic for a guy who claims to be an ECHO-WAR

environmentalist, he's changed his tune on that. Look, he's doing what one common thread you can find, whatever's making your money, whatever's getting attention is what he's doing. So he was an environmentalist. Now, cryptocurrency is where he's deriving some of his money, so suddenly he's not so concerned about the environment. It's clear to me that this attention grab around anti-vaccine is a money grab.

You can go there, they're featuring now on Amazon, especially for the election, a new box set of all of his books or whatever it is. It's a money grab. When I look at why candidates are running, there's usually a couple of things. One, they're running because they really think they're gonna win. Another group of people are running

because they're running for something else. Like, you know, I think the candidates in South Carolina are probably running for Vice President. Then there are candidates who are running for the next time. It seems like DeSantis is probably doing that. And then there are people who just wanna get their name out there for some vague money making or prestige or career sense. And that's what I believe RFK is.

So let me read this article to you. So Silicon Valley money men are buzzing about RFK. This is a Wall Street Journal story. Primative figures in Silicon Valley, such as Jack Dorsey, Shamat, David Sachs, are expressing support for RFK's presidential campaign, drawn to his willingness to challenge a status quo. Dorsey recently voiced his backing, stating the more people here from RFK,

the more they agree with our view that he should be part of the debate going forward, Kennedy's engagement with the tech community, including appearances on podcasts, and discussions on platforms like Twitter spaces as resonated with some tech leaders who values anti-establishment stance, Shemat express, I've always been anti-establishment, the idea of tearing down all these institutions of power gives me glee. So to get the attentions of guys in Silicon Valley

that don't necessarily consider themselves. Why do I care about those guys? Maybe you should. I didn't say I should. I didn't ask if I should. I said, why should I care? That's a question. Why should they care about what you say, though?

Fair enough, I'm not saying that that should. But this is a podcast. So we're bringing up the story to say, when you said, I know what I'm saying. No, you said he's getting a lot of Republican money that have interest in him because he's propping him up as a troublemaker. Yeah, yeah, you said Republican specifically, but Yeah, we get his Republican support. That's where his growth is supporting is 4% among Democrats That's where your theory last week about he's gonna be a third party like you can just invent a party out of whole clock And that he's gonna be a troublemaker for Democrats. He's the best thing we have in a third party.

You do follow the podcast. I told you when I... Okay, so that's good. I said I listened to the Ruben interview on the podcast. I got you. Okay, so who do you like, Anthony? Who do you like? Which of these guys do you like?

I get to say, are you like a diehard Biden guy or you lay out? I think we have something that I call, and this is a trademark, so don't see it I call it the backup quarterbacks in German politics. That we always think the guy who's on the sideline is gonna be the better, candidate the better player. And so this time of the cycle, it's who else is out there. It doesn't matter who else is out there.

It's gonna be Biden and Trump. So, and that choice is crystal clear for me. So, who do I want? Who do I think would be better? I don't know. The guy who's in the job is doing a pretty good job at the job. He's wildly unpopular.

But then again, so is everybody. Everyone's unpopular now. So I mean, I'm going to vote for Joe Biden. You're going to vote for Donald Trump. And we're off to the races. But I don't think it matters. I mean, I'd like, I mean, I listen to these guys. None of them seem particularly interesting to me because they're not terribly interested in doing anything

to depart from the orthodoxy of their candidate. I mean, I, you know, I don't know if that's on the screen, but Cornell West is who I'm doing my show about this Saturday. I mean, that's a problem. A Green Party candidate cost Hillary Clinton the election in 2016, and Cornell West could conceivably do that again, but as far as Jill Stein I'm a green party candidate. Oh, yes, yeah

I do it Jill Stein, but he's a much better known figure than Jill Stein and he's he's a better attention get on I think he's a better speaker so he's potential to be the pro effect a viable candidate that gets just enough for that. Because elections come down with the nine points in the middle. So yeah, but I would agree with that. But I pro it pros an open question. I think historically you can look it's a weird dynamic. Traditionally speaking a third party would would harm the incumbent right. That's the that's the common sense view of it. But in that case it was a very weird dynamical was going on because Clinton was doing a change election and Perot was the changeiest fricking thing out. Am I left a person to show?

Go for it, isn't it? Because the changeiest fricking thing out there was Ross Probe. So I know there's been a lot of talk that Perot cost bush the election. I know Bush taught that, but I'm not sure the math holds up on that. But in terms of Coin-R-West, it's clear every single one of a lefty green candidate, African-American who talks about the Democratic Party not doing enough for African-Americans. That's two points in Wisconsin right there, right? Well, two points probably high, but a point in a half of Wisconsin where the margin last time was only a point and a half.

So. It was constant where the margin last time was only a point to the half. So... Aaron, a question for you. In regards to campaigning mayor, which is a city, then you have the state versus you got nation like the Sanctus Congress governor. How different is it campaigning, you know, city, Congress, district versus governor versus president? Well, mayor of New York City is a whole different creature, right? I mean, you're campaigning for mayor of the city of New York. You're attracting national attention because first of all,

it's an off-year election. It's not held at the same time. So it's a really barren time in the political calendar. But in essence, it's the same thing. It is thrust and parry around issues, what people care about, identifying what it is you're trying to say in a very short, concise thing. The stuff I find that I found in, and again,

you've taken a run at me for not watching the share of what you output. The stuff you do around marketing is interesting to me. One of the reasons I wanted to come here is kind of see the marketing side of this. So there is a marketing and a notion of like figuring out what works and what doesn't. But in a broad sense, presidential candidates are very different things than anything else

in politics because you're running this weird bifurcated campaign of a national campaign and this weird state-by-state thing where you can be campaigning in Iowa talking about completely different issues than you're talking about when you go to New Hampshire or South Carolina. That doesn't happen. I mean, some degree, you go upstate in New York or Tallahassee compared to Miami. You get a little bit of that when you run as a governor, but you really get it as that's why I think states like New York, Florida, California, a governor who says, look, I know

from dealing with different communities. I know it's different geographies, different economic comparatives. That makes me ready to be present, which is why Americans choose governors so often to be present. You said earlier, we're talking about RFK, you're like, well, it's just a money grab. He's trying to get money. He's trying to sell books. He's trying to do this. Did you read his Fauci book or no? Oh, God, no. You haven't read it. Did you read his Fauci book or no? Oh god no. You haven't read it. Did I read the Fauci book? No, I didn't, I don't read it.

Why not? I know, it's much easier just to read other people who debunk crazy conspiracy theories. I don't have to read the conspiracy theory. So what was conspiracy theory about that? I am, I'm not gonna, if your listeners wanna go and do their own research on it, I'm not gonna sit here and be Fauci versus versus Candidiana Conspiris.

I mean, I just don't have any interest in that. And doing what? And doing the conspiracy theory. In being one side of a conspiracy theorist, like debunking a conspiracy theorist, you can get other people on for that. And you get all kinds of people who are real experts in this stuff to do that.

I'm not an interested. So what's your show about? So the thesis is it's a very conservative radio station. You guys have a pretty conservative audience here. I, I, I, I, I'm probably center right. I would it's a very, very capitalist entrepreneurial. Three thinkers. Pretty conservative. I love it. My boss, the owner of my station, says, we're center right. I'm like boss, I'm the only thing that's not hard right on the entire station. So we're not center right. We're pretty right. But I believe in the idea, I represent a fairly conservative district by the standards of New York. Archie Bonkers House was in my district.

That's in what city, by the way? New York City. In New York City, that was your district. What area? Oh, the outer boroughs of Queens and Brooklyn, working class areas, not the fancy high rises, the places where like, as I mentioned, Archie Bunkard from, you're gonna remember.

All in the family. All in the family. Yeah. Very conservative places I lost 80, 20, for example. When I left Congress, when I told Nancy Pelosi, you want me out, I wanna warn you, this is gonna be a Republican seat when I leave it was. So, and I prosecuted that job with the argument being

that we all have our partisanship, even more so now than when I was in office. But we, I think there's a healthy group of people in the Venn diagram of Democratic Republican who don't want one hand clapping, who want to hear what the other side has to say, who want to engage in some kind of a conversation about it. It doesn't seem that way in American media today. I will admit that, that most of the money is on one side or the other, one side or the

other. I am trying out the theory that if I try to be a Democrat, a well-known, famous, you know, fired up, green, whatever. The establishment type of a Democrat like. Well, you say establishment. I did run against establishment every time I ran. You are pretty establishment, but nobody gets, as establishment as it gets. Well, I don't know, when I was in Congress, I was causing all kinds of headaches to my body,

because I was advocating for left on healthcare, I was advocating right on Israel and law enforcement. You can put, what, establishment, all I know is from establishment is most establishments in, in my district, in New York City, and in Washington, didn't like me, and we're happy when I was out. So that's all I can say about the establishment.

But let me just finish my thought. Just real quick with the establishment. I mean, you're very closely linked with the Clintons, whether you're Bush Clinton, that's as establishment as a guest, is not up there. I guess I was married to her deputy chief staff at the State Department, but remember something, Bill Clinton was not an establishment guy when he started right

He came frankly ran against the establishment when a lot of people thought it wasn't a smart time to run in 92 Etc. But all of that being said that he became the establishment well when you become the president you become the establishment Donald Trump is like the outside guy. He's the president the guy guy was, he's now the very definition. Far from established. He was not establishment. But once you say, I know, but I'm just responding to the idea that people run when they're not the establishment. But once you become the institution of the presence, you become the establishment.

It's just the finest establishment. What is establishment to you? Well, maybe we should both do it since it was in your question. But I guess establishment is the organizations and institutions of politics and whether they like you or don't like you, okay, whether you pose a threat to them or not a threat to them. I can only assume, given their eagerness to get rid of me, and I can attest to this, that I don't consider myself a set, but I also don't consider it such a projuretid. If by establishment, you mean someone who, like,

you used it, got elected president, that got elected Congress a whole bunch of times, when there's a middle class kid, who are like, with the name Anthony Weiner. Okay, yes, I was a member of the United States House of Representatives, a job that is in the Constitution of the United States. That is by definition the established.

You know, you know, what has happened last few years, that's a little weird that you said I want to talk about it. Rob, can you pull up the article that just came out, paragraph 19, New York Times on the amount of COVID deaths that they reported, and this word that the CIA came up with called conspiracy theory that a lot of people like to throw around. The CIA is a conspiracy and that,

well, the history of it goes back, but CIA was one of the ones that really took it to a whole different level. If you read this article here, go to the part where it's, okay, the far left New York Times. Who are you reading from? This is the New York Times. That's the bright part.

Well, we can go to the New York Times article if you want to. So the far left New York Times quietly admits this week that that's from coronavirus were overcounted by 30% G, another right-wing conspiracy theory is proven true. And by the way, can you go to the paragraph where it's actually written the way it is? It's on a different article, I think the value table launched.

Go to exaggeration. I have search. I'm not sure. Has it COVID milestone? Search the word exaggeration if you can. There you go. The official number. OK, so COVID also be clear.

It has not fallen to zero that over some of the 80% of the time. The official number is probably an exaggeration because it includes some people who had virus when they died even though it was not Underlying it was not the underlying cause of death like my father other CDC data suggests sorry for your loss Suggest that almost one third of Official recent COVID that's a following into this category That is a big number so when we're sitting around every day we're watching the news and everybody is panicking, people's lives are being stopped, kids are not going to support.

People are dying, a million people are dying. Yeah, a million people are dying, but you're saying to do what? Stop everything, you're saying to force everybody to take the vaccine. No, I'm just saying you're taking that as a way to minimize the trap and I am taking the other position that I don't think you minimize a million people. I don't think anybody minimize it. I think it's just like that. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, taking the other position that I don't think you minimize a million. I don't think anybody minimize it. I think which sound pretty minimizing. Do you see the part about a third?

Is that a conspiracy theory? No, I think this is a pretty reliable. So the one third is hyperlink. We can probably go look and see what that is. That sounds like it makes a lot of sense to me. Oh, now it does. So this is why America's what what point are you making here, my brother? Oh, you were about to say what difference does it make a legendary quote used by

somebody else on the back. Well, no, what difference do you make to your point? You're saying this is not a conspiracy theory? But no, no, you're saying when I said, have you read the book, I said, why would you read the book that's all conspiracy theory? No, he didn't say this, he had had conspiracy theory to have that.

If you haven't read it, I would say it's not what he said about. Because I explained this earlier, it's your question. I read the reviews of the book and the debunk. Okay, so you read the reviews, got it. So, kind of like if I'm in a office and I have to go through a certain new legislation that's coming up, I just wait to see what New York Times writes about it.

So a lot of people tune into your program to find out about other things in the news and get a perspective on it to draw conclusions because they trust you, isn't that true? Right. So I have sources that I trust. But this is not such a novel idea. But I would read the other side's book.

You would read every book on both sides of every one. If it's one of the biggest crisis we experience over a three-year period, yes. Look, the guy, if I have three-night-albums. Anyone within the sound of my voice can read what bullshit that guy is spewing. But I'm not gonna have you enough i'm gonna go by the way you're making the dissentist mistake now any guy say that the dissentist mistake the dissentist mistake is bullets the church will affect the believing that that what was a giant issue

two years ago that animates people is still a giant issue that animates the problem with the establishment you think that you think dissentist is still making that i know i think dissSantis is running a campaign based on things that are no longer salient for everything. Well, that's the reason that he's relevant. That's kind of like the whole reason that he's on the forefront of the campaign. Excuse me, how do you define forefront? He's getting crushed.

He's in second place right now. He's getting, he's trailing by 40 points. You're right. And I'm explaining. I'm explaining. I'm explaining. I'm explaining. I'm first as changing the subject, but I'm also explaining. I'm explaining the phenomenon that he experienced at Rudi Giuliani, the Winston Churchill

faith, that you can be amazingly good in your mind and for your voters' mind in a certain issue. But once that issue recedes, the salience of that and the importance of that issue recedes as well. That's the mistake that Santa says, mate. And by the way, with all due respect, this is why people don't like you and trust you. This is why America doesn't trust the establishment. And the one thing I want you to-

And I'm going to be the harbinger to establish in the summer setting. No, no, you're part of it because the American people, the American people, the people who follow the guidelines, not the people that didn't follow the guidelines. The people that took to COVID vaccine, the people that followed the non-essential, the people that didn't go to work,

the people that kept their kids from going to school, and they said, the experts are telling me this. You dramatically changed my life, and now you're saying what difference does it make? No, I didn't say that. No, no, no, no, no. I said what difference does it make? I said what difference does it make?

That is what carrots is behind us. So the Santos, don't't say that. No, no, no, no, no. I said what difference that is what carries us behind us. So the Sanctus don't talk about it. We we have some time here. So let's let's go back for a moment. You were pointing to a reference in there and talking about a conspiracy theory and when it was reduced less than I thought you called it a conspiracy theory. I did not. You claim it as a conspiracy theory. You were debunked by going to a clip and you pointing to the one time and I said what difference does it make to you argument you were making I didn't understand because you said it's been two or three years but people don't care anymore

that's what you're trying to say I was making you you have you're giving me a whiplash no I was making an argument a why dissantists is struggling in the polls in an effort to change the subject quite frankly struggling in the poll thank youuggling in the polls is because he is pursuing this line in the rhetoric with. I know, I know, I think that's the furthest reason why he's not doing well in the polls. Okay, successfully changed the subject.

All right, why do you think? Why he's not succeeding in the polls? Yeah, I mean, I heard you're doing this week. Let me point this out. Let me point this out. When Rob said, Anthony Weiner, you know, for example, on the show here, Saturday we'll have Chris Cuomo here, okay, on the podcast. He's flying in just to do the podcast and he flies back. Me too.

We've had tonight will be Dave Smith tomorrow's ice cube. We've interviewed people from left, right center everybody. What are some examples of left? Cal Coolinsky Sam Cedar James and James James is coming back Andrew Yang David. I can give you a bunch of names Who's David Pac-Pathman? You should look him up. You should start doing little research. I don't think you're read enough I should but the part I would say to you is the following the reason this is exactly the reason why people have a hard time Believe in what guys like you are saying robin put it into other peoples percent Let me answer the question about the census. let me answer the question about the census. Let me answer the question about the census to be fair. The reason why you may say, well, you know what,

this is why the census is not doing well. Well, this is why Trump is doing well because people want to know what the hell happened during COVID. Well, this is why the vex is doing well. So you're arguing with that. It's receded in every poll. The census is not. The census isn't campaigning. The census receded in every poll. The Santas is not. The Santas isn't campaigning.

The Santas is not going out there. The Santas is not talking enough people. The Santas is campaigning like a pussy is what he's doing. He's not, he's, he's, he's, when you want to take out the king, you've got to mean it. He doesn't. He's running for four years from now. But it's all fine.

But I'm just saying, I was making a point about how sometimes candidates fall in love with the narrative about themselves. Their polling looks amazing, and then the world around them changes, and suddenly an issue that was so important, when Rudy Giuliani left, and he's also on 77WBC talk radio, the most powerful station in the nation. When he left in 2001, he was the least popular mayor in New York City's history. He was worse than the blonser when he left in 2001, he was the least popular mayor in New York City's history. He was worse than the blons, when he left.

Now, September 11th came and changed that overnight, but putting that aside for a moment. Part of the reason is he didn't get, no one was saying, oh my God, murders used to be 2,000, and now they're 500. No one said that because they had receded his initiative, moved on to other things. They wanted someone to be less divisive.

They wanted different things. There's something called accountability and American people wanted. And you don't because you're a politician. You're not somebody that's you're all strange. I'm also someone, it's quite the opposite, my friend. I'm trying to give you a, first of all, you do punditry on the show.

I've listened to it. I'm doing some punditry about why Dessantis is not doing well. You and I can disagree. We're both speculating, but I'm open to your speculation, but saying that I'm wrong is probably not the right way to go. Oh, when it comes down to the way he's campaigning, we're on the same page. That you're not going to get a debate here about campaigning,

but to argue the fact that, for example, I'll give you an idea. What is the one conspiracy people from all sides are most obsessed with and have been obsessed with for now sixty years i had happened on november twenty second sixty three the sixty year anniversary's coming up do you think we should know who killed the who says in it a john who do you

think it doesn't matter i i uh... curious doesn't affect my life very much so probably a lot of your young listeners probably don't care that much but it doesn't effect my life very much. And probably a lot of your young listeners probably don't care that much. But it doesn't affect my life that much, but sure. I want to find out where the UFOs and... How important is it to know about it? How important is it for us to know?

It's hard to how important this for me to put food on the table, how important it is to have a good school system on how important it is to be able to get to work, how important it is to be able to come in the park and hear it and I have floods not very. It's a curiosity. Not a flood thing Anthony. It's freaking raining on my thing is my thing I'm at the end of the day I look around

I'm always like thinking like a mayoral candidate. So when I see a community service or a landlord is not doing their job or a function of how government works in different places I take notice of it. How much time have you spent in South Florida? Not a lot. The whole freaking place is flooded. Why? We're like five feet above ground.

Is that rain? Is that the rain? Are you troubled by that? No. And it floods. Yeah, you've got to flood some. Let's stay on this topic. Okay.

I want to stay on this topic. The last thing I'm concerned about right now is flooding. Just see now we got to talk about the way that's a fascinating dichotomy. The last you consider this flooding but you now want to pivot to the JFK assassination as more important. I think for a lot of people in this country this summer they would probably say flooding is a little bit more important than the JFK's. And not only that we have to worry because the world is coming to an end due to climate change in 12 years. That's something that we have to read. Sure does. Put us at a end due to climate change in 12 years. That's something I have to read here. Sure does.

Put us in the top right. Sure does. It's happening every 12 years. By the way, it's a bad time. The world's coming to an end. It's an interesting one. It's a bad time to be taking a run and climate change. This particular summer, man.

Yeah. So, going back to it, you don't think it's an important issue for us to know who killed JFK. Like, yeah, I don't care about it. Would you put in your top 20? No way. If you want to sit down. Wait a minute. In what context, though? In the context of you, the way you put it. Would you put in your top 20? No way. If you were to sit down, wait a minute, in what context though?

In the context of you, the way you put it, is it a context? In the context of me voting for establishment people, 100% I would. In the context of me seeing CIA has way too much power, 100% in the context of me seeing how much power DOJ has, 100% in the context of this.

In the comments, you can view up the comments. 100%. Let me just make this 100% in the comments. Let's do this in the comments. The FBI has 100%. Let me just make this point. In the comments section, I bet you people can do 20 easily before they get to this about their own lives, about their concern, about the future, about the concept of J.A.R.S. voting. It's about voting.

It's about voting. Those two things are synonymous. And now, with all the respect, I think you missed his entire point. It's a metaphor for really the establishment and what's going on with the agency. But why don't you concern about the agency? Can you do me a favor? The mistrust that people have for the CIA, the FBI?

I know, but the JFK assassination doesn't rise even the top 20, and that's so hard. But it's a part of that bigger category. I said at the beginning, I said, it's a thing. It's not a very important thing. I'm not the category. I said at the beginning. I said, it's a thing. It's not a very important thing. Right. And you sound like somebody.

And I want to play this clip to see if this is somebody you'll look up to or not. Rob, can you please play this for me if you could? I'm going to text it over to you. This is what it sounds like. Okay. If you want to play. This is what it sounds like. I'm sorry.

Go ahead. Yeah. Totally get it. Aaron, go ahead and play this. Rob, do you have it? I just texted it to you if you can pull it out. Yes, give me one second. Yeah, I think. Is it a voice I'll recognize?

It's, oh, you're going to recognize a little. You're definitely going to recognize it. So it's the issue with two communities. OK, if you look at this, your famous line on what she said. OK, go ahead and play this. With all due respect, the fact is we had four dead Americans. Was it because of a protest?

Or was it because of guys out for a walk when they decided they'd go kill some Americans? What difference at this point does it make? You agree with that? She kicked ass in the Benghazi. You guys, watch that? You remind me of her. You remind me of her.

They say, so, Shobbato, what do you think about the Clintons? What do you think about the Clintons? I think she arguably, and let's see if you can come up with a name who exceeds this. The most qualified person ever to run for President of the United States, a former senator, former secretary of state, a former first lady. I mean, would have been an amazing president, would have done a better job in virtually every way. And why do I think she didn't become one? Oh God. From a 2016 perspective, like going back and rehashing the, the, yeah, I mean,

you were in it. So why do you think she didn't become one? I wasn't in it. Your life was in it. So you're married to the woman that was the right-hand person to her. So you're in the right-hand. We had actually, we were separated at the time. The answer is no, and I was in rehab for the important part of the campaign. So no, I wasn't very, I wasn't connected with that campaign at all in any way. In retrospect, probably because the corrupt head of the FBI put the finger on the scale for Donald Trump.

So you're blaming call me. Well, if you want to have one hot take, you know, there's a lot of different things that went into that. The Electoral College is a shit show, you know, we're stuck with it, but it is what it is. She got way more votes than the other guy got, but you know, you can argue that Jill Stein got 2% of Wisconsin and Hillary lost by less than a percent. Jill Stein got about 1.8% in Pennsylvania.

So yeah, I mean, there are lots of things. We had 2016's a long time ago now, but yeah How much of it you think it was With Russian collusion and Russia being involved and Trump involved with Russia and all that stuff How much I believe I believe Donald Trump's Intelligence officials I believe them when when they said that that the Russians attacked us for the purpose of helping Donald Trump That's Donald Trump someone people said that I believe him. What do you think about what Durham said? The whole order of Durham not only that's donald trump's own people said i believe what do you think about what do you have said the whole of the old or during the prosecutor that didn't prosecute anyone

what a dorms we already had we already had we we we we had the muller report we already had the the inspector general support in two thousand nineteen we got this guy who said he was gonna good gonna arrest the people to get to the bottom of it he did nothing all he basically said was that some type of a some type of a uh... of of a process the f.v.I. follow should have been a different process that they followed Durham was uh... but are you still talking about Durham i'm surprised you guys

aren't the like you are so you are you are you are you are exactly the reason why people can't come out of you keep you keep putting in the third person if you want to say something to say you believe it believe it. Don't say other people. No, clearly if I'm saying. A lot of people, a lot of people. Clearly if I'm saying it, I'm taking ownership of that statement, but you're exactly the reason why people don't trust, like, pull up a phone right now.

No, I disagree with you. And you're not used to having people disagree with you. I thought American trust the US government. American trust and let's agree over time. If you want me to agree with you. I thought American trust to the US government. This is an open conversation. Let me have your other time. If you want me to agree through, I can do that. I have watched enough. I have zero desire for you to agree with.

I know you're not going to agree with. Listen, there's one thing I'm going to tell you. Let me finish my thought. If you want me to come in here and do the hmmm, yeah, well, maybe, if I believe something, I'm going to say it and I'm doing it and I'm not you using this phrase I'm trying to be respectful to the notion here. We're having a conversation You say what is Durham and I tore the shreds out of Durham I'm gonna keep doing it if you want me to nerf it for you. I will

I told you the three and a half years of MSNBC mainstream media talking about Russia Russia Russia Russia Russia Russia was all true Waiter, I don't you can't say three and a half years russia russia i don't like msmc either yeah bores me the tears okay so so but but it wasn't it wasn't it wasn't msmc ceasing this things it was donald trump's national security coming out saying we have

acu you have absolute evidence that the trump administration was colluding with russia more like oh shit maybe. Wait a minute, if they were meeting it was. They were meeting in, they're meeting in, in, in, in, in, in sweets in Trump tower with literal Russian agents, according to, wait for it. The Trump administration told us this. Why, this is not in dispute anymore. It is Donald Trump's now security adviser, Donald Trump's CIA, Donald Trump's FBI, Donald Trump's people came out and then a bipartisan report in the United States Senate said the same thing and then an Inspector General's report said the same thing.

What do you mean MSNBC said it? The only people not saying it or the people who aren't paying attention at this point. But it's not the end of, look it's not the end of the world we go on. We were attacked by a country, they succeeded. Now we're going to, now we're going to try to make it better. That's why in 2020, when there was more talk about attacks, that's why we overcalibrate another direction with Hunter Biden.

We are a flawed country, but we should try to get better each time we do this. And if we get attacked one time, what service do we do by denying it? Why do we do service? Denying what? Denying that the Russians attacked us, when we know they did.

Okay, so why are you denying what happened during COVID when you're saying, oh, it's just listen, it's behind us. It's just. You're going to have argument. You want to do COVID, you're so confident with me. All right, let's try. I mean, I'm not the best person. So many better people can get on to do COVID. Yeah, I believe a million people dying is a big deal. I believe Donald Trump saying you should drink bleach is a dumb idea. I believe he lost the election because of it. We have accountability and now we're doing better. Right. And again, going back to it, when we talked RFK, this is not about COVID. I don't have any desire to talk to about COVID right now.

When we talked RFK, I asked you to do you read the book and you said, why would I read a conspiracy theory book? Then you said, well, it's behind this, this is the exact one. You pointed to one fact. The same thing about the stuff that's been three years ago. No, that's exactly what American people want in all right now. In RFK said that he pointed out that one fact and said it was one third and someone called it a conspiracy theory and it was one third. I stipulate to the idea that it was one third.

So it's a million people. We don't, and there you go, I stipulate to that. But I didn't read the book, and I don't need to read the book, and you put a clip on from Breitbart, and claimed it was the New York Times, then we put the New York Times into much more nuanced explanation, and nuance is where I think we should live.

These are complicated things. What nuanced, what nuanced? They quoted something. We put the new, bring the clip back up because English is my fifth language, but I just want to read this again to make it very clear. It's Campy Good radio. But go ahead.

Yeah, this can't be, well, you're on a radio station that most of your listeners are a week away from dying, so I don't know how many people are used to it. They're all in a state of love. And being disrespectful to the people is not what I do. I respect them in honor of them. I respect them in honor of them. You're a show, you know, it's very clear. I respect them in honor.

I'm not the one with the people in there. You know what, when Rob told me Pat, Anthony Wiener agreed to do this podcast. I said, okay. I said, I got respect that the fact that he's at least coming down. There's a lot of people right now. We're about to do a town hall, I believe.

We're doing a town hall here with Vivek in two weeks. We're doing a town hall. We're pretty much every candidate's been invited're doing a town hall here with Vivek in two weeks. We're doing a town hall where pretty much every candidate has been invited to do a town hall. And audience will be able to ask questions. I respect anybody that's willing to go and sit down. For example, new someone to Hannity and sat down with Hannity. Okay.

You got the Sanctity. I've been on Hannity a ton. Yeah, you got the Sanctis, which by the way, was very interesting. Your last interview with him a year ago, when he asked you a question, how much has changed with you and have you changed and saw this stuff in your life and your answer was I think so. It's the audience decision to judge.

That was kind of a weird answer when you said, well, if you want to, if you first sort of instead of characterizing it, if you want to play it for you, if you want to play it, I mean, if you want to play it, go ahead and play. Let's play it and let's not, I mean, but if you want to go back, I don't want to go back kind of all over the map here, but go ahead. I'll be glad to go. I don't. But I got one last question before we run. W ABC radio in New York, they are exploring the left-right divide and major issues of flicking New York City and beyond. One of the co-hosts is former New York congressman

Anthony Weiner. He spent 18 months in confinement for sexting with a 15-year-old girl. He was released in 2019. He says he's ready to answer tough questions about his own life, the challenges facing the country. He's joining now, our friend Curtis Sleewer, with a new show, their co-host, The Left First of the Right, Anthony Weiner. Thank you for being with us, Curtis Sleewer. Always good to see you, my friend.

I guess the first question that I'll have is, you pled guilty, Anthony, to sending obscene materials to a young girl, 15-year-old girl. You went, you pled guilty, you served jail time. Have you changed? Are you a different person? Well, I think so. How do the idea anyway can go through that kind of experience? And I think this is probably true of people who have been to other types of adversity. I don't think you go

through that type of experience and don't emerge changed. Wait a minute. That's an obscure answer. I think so. Either you know when you're hard if you. Either you know in your heart if you changed, or you know in your heart if you didn't change, or can you assure people, because you're gonna now try and draw an audience, and they're gonna wanna know if you changed or not. Have you changed? They can judge for themselves.

I'm sorry? I said they can judge for themselves. I'm not out to persuade you or anyone else that I've changed. I mean, I'm doing a radio show and people can call in and ask me questions. We did one this past Saturday where people had an opportunity to call in. And a positive. You said you wanted to react to it? No.

No, I just, you were characterizing us and let's let, rather than you characterizing us. Was that pretty accurate on characterizing it? Or was that a little off? I forgot, I'd be honest to you. I just wanna make sure I'm pretty accurate. Would it be fair to say you stand by that statement? Do you think you have changed?

Dude, I didn't know those allegations. Those are heinous allegations. Have you changed? Well, we have a nuanced relationship with the notion of change in addiction that we believe that you don't stop being an addict. That every day you've got to take your medicine. It's no different than being an epileptic that once you know you have the disease, you've got to take your medication But does any day texting and sexting a 15 year old girl a disease? Well, I I did all of these things under the influence of an addiction that I still have what is that addiction?

um I would I would carry on I've talked about this a lot on the radio show, but it's a little bit of a hard pivot here. I would carry on with dozens and dozens and dozens and dozens of people in something that I never met any of them. And in those dozens and dozens of interactions, some of them would be sexual, some of them. And in those dozens and dozens of interactions, some of them would be sexual. Some of them would not be sexual. Some of them would be me giving advice on how to change the, you know, a fuse in your car. But that interaction that I was getting into was stimulating

something in me that was addictive. That was, I couldn't stop even after I had increasingly more worse consequences. I couldn't stop. It accelerated to the point where I hit my bottom. Actually, when I went to prison, it was not when I had my bottom. It was before then. I went to rehab and I am in recovery today. But call it what you want. I mean, my brother died in addict. I mean, programs for addiction around this behavior.

What were you addicted to? It's not really clear what was doing the thing. Is it the feedback? Is it the flirting? Is it the affirmation? Is it the who knows, process addictions like gambling and whatever, overspent, like sometimes they, unlike

and people who deal with alcohol or which I'm also, you know, not doing, they're very easy. Put the cork in the bottle, we now buy an everything. This is what it is that you're addicted to. In today's world, the rooms that I'm in are filled with people that it manifests in a lot of different ways, people with pornography, people around, escorts, people around, different elements of the part

of our brain that stimulates that kind of stuff. So you're an attention addict? Are you drug addicts? I mean, the progrant, well, narcissists is a diagnosis of a thing. I'm in a program for sex addicts that has a really wide range of bottom lines, the people in these rooms.

And we have a tradition not to talk about it, just like AA has, but doesn't do much anymore. But yeah, I mean my program of recovery is related to sex addiction. Are you talking like from a standpoint of sex addiction or you hear to phrase the minor-attracted persons, is that what you're talking about? I didn't, the court said I didn't have any attraction to minors, the court case, we never had a trial.

Yeah. As no one gets trials, there are no trials anymore in this country. We're down to about 2% of cases go to trial because of the penalties around going to trial. I pled, I accept responsibility, I did my time, I have, I understood the, that, I understood what the judgment when she said that no one's ever been sentenced for this before, but because you're a public figure and we have to make an

example, I understand someone has to be the first in these types of circumstances. All of that being said, I don't think the system is corrupt. I don't think the fact that I think there are things that should be fixed in it. But this is the greatest country on earth. We have a criminal justice system that is the worst in the world except when compared to every other one. And I know that when you're a person of my prominence, that that

does an expectation that I'm going to be sentenced for things that someone else might not be. Do you think you should have gone to jail? No. You do not. I should not go. I write. What were the exact charges? So the exact, as they said, what I was, I pled to. There was no, I didn't have a chance to go to trial.

I didn't have a chance for them to put proof on, and I, you know, that they didn't, there was no physical evidence. There was no, no, I should not have gone to, no one's ever gone to jail for this. I mean, we had a former governor and prosecuted in the same district that literally was using money and transactions to hire sex workers and things like that. And he wasn't prosecuted in the same district that literally was using money and

transactions to hire sex workers and things like that. And he wasn't prosecuted, he resigned and you know whatever he left and disgraced, might disgrace and dishonor that I met with and being in recovery and trying to get my life back. I don't think people should go to prison for what I did. How concerned are you that this is your ever-lasting legacy? You know, we have a saying, what other people think of me, it's not of my business. I don't have a particular, I heard a conversation,

it was an interesting one about legacy that you did with Jeffrey Tuben. So to let you know that I was listening. By the way, to be fair, we actually liked the guy, Jeffrey Tuben, and we laughed and had a great time with the guy, even though we disagreed with many different things. Yeah, no, it sounded like he's a good guy, he sounded like his book was interesting, but you asked this question about legacy, and I am not terrible.

I think part of what led me into an addictive spiral was being in airports and having people come up to me and wanting to take pictures of me, I was famous for being, for shouting at Hannity and beating the crap out of Fox News guys and jousting and fighting and whatever it is. The most famous thing I ever did in Washington was having a loud exchange over the 9-11 first responders will. And that type of mania, the type of like, well, what do people think about me at this? Oh, I have people loving, but do they love me enough?

Do they love me the right way? And so this notion of, do I get up every morning, and look at my son sleeping and bad, think about the problems my city faces, my country faces, think about the ways I can be service to other addicts who are sick and suffering, and do I say, well, I wonder what's gonna happen, my father died a month ago, do I wonder

what people are gonna say at my funeral? I don't, to be honest with you, that stuff, that way of thinking about things, all I can do is today. If someone says to me, do you wanna get on a plane and go down and do this interesting podcast with these guys who might not agree with you, but who knows? Maybe someone will be watching, we'll say, that's an interesting thing, let me tune into Anthony's show. That's an interesting take, let me give more oxygen to people who do this.

All I can do is today take the next right step. And if I get too concerned about future tripping about, well, what will this people think about me? So when Sean Hannity says to me, have you changed or are you better or have you improved? And I say, I don't know. And then I put some meat on the bones and I say, look, that's for other people to decide if they want.

I'm not terribly concerned about that. Someone wants to ask me a specific question like you've asked me today. I'll be glad to answer it. But no, I'm not terribly concerned about that. Someone wants to ask me a specific question, like you've asked me today. I'll be glad to answer it, but no, I'm not particularly concerned about it. Have you watched Sounds of Freedom? The movie? I've read, I don't want to walk into the same trap.

I've read about it. I've read a lot of things about it. What is it about exactly? It's a very popular movie now. You're having watched Sounds of Freedom? I've watched any movies, to be honest, but no. No, I don't. Do be honest, but no. OK. Do you think the stats they quote in Sounds of Freedom,

which is as a father of four, you got one that's 11, about to be 12, I got an 11, 9, 7, and a two-year-old. So you know the mindset of a father where, once you have a kid, you're no longer in one place. You're always in two places. If you got one, three places, four places, five places, so you're no longer in one place. You're always in two places. If you got one, three places, four places, five places, so you're continuously everywhere. They quote the stat of 20 million new child pornography pictures have been uploaded on the internet the last 12 months. That's

a 5,000 percent increase in the last five years. The fact that it's a $150 billion industry per year at pedophilia, human trafficking, the fact that you can sell cocaine once, but you can sell a five-year-old child five to ten times a day for ten years, depending on what the age of the kid is, and that this is a crisis that is happening with minors around the world, with what's going on around the border right now, where kids are coming on a company, this is a real issue. Do you see that as a top five crisis in America today? It's a huge problem.

I have to, I didn't know that's what the movie was about. It's a huge problem, but I'll go beyond that. I mean, there is a multi, I don't wanna get out over my ski, since it's probably a trillion dollar industry around pornography of all types. That is completely, I mean, I see guys in these rooms. We have this notion of the eighth and ninth steps of making amends.

And these guys who are addicted to pornography and the idea that every time they're watching pornography, it's probably a human traffic door, someone who's been exploited or someone who's forced into these things. This is a huge problem. I haven't seen the program, but it sounds as a father, it sounds awful. And you're not equivocating porn with child sex trafficking. Well, what I'm saying is that I, that that I I'm putting them in the same category I'm putting them really I'm putting them in the same category of consensual sex well hold on a second hold on a second

versus child sexual we have no idea we have no idea about what consent people have given whether whether they if you don't believe that porn is exploitive of people Then I mean you and I have it have a different understanding. I'm not saying that all of it is, I'm not saying, I'm not saying, I'm not saying that all of it is, but I'm saying it's the same, it is, it's the same general problem that we're looking at stuff that's going on all the time, relatively out in front of us

that we don't really are thinking about the way that is corrosive to society. I'm not sure. Children having sex is not the same thing as adult having sex. of us that we don't really are thinking about the way that it's corrosive to society. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. Children having sex is not the same thing as adult having sex. That's truly that's surely true. Okay, so that's sort of contradictory to what you just said. No, I'm talking about I'm expanding the conversation about something I don't know very much about

to something I have I had more experience. I think the question was do you think this is something that we should be worried about? Do you think the top five issues? Way more than JFK's assassination. Way more. Way more. I don't disagree. Absolutely, Greg.

I think to me, it's even more than top five, but I agree in that area. How much you think we're doing to protect these kids? Because how often do we hear about people getting, you know, God, how often do you hear about, you know, it happened at often do you hear about, you know, it happened at a massive scale. There's a lot of people that are getting away with this. I don't, I didn't, I'm not really an expert on it, and I didn't see the movie, but yeah, it sounds terrible.

I mean, and the movie is getting enormous on the attention, so perhaps that's the fault crime that is needed to get more done. It is, it is. Okay. In regards to education, you know, a lot of the kids from LA and a lot of the different districts from LA have reached out about, you know, what's going on with their schools and it's the state of California with books they're teaching, you know, Rob, if you can go

to vitamin.com and type in the word queer and go to the book. If you can, I'd love to get a start on this, if you go to vitamin.com and type the word queer and search. Parents are concerned about what's happening I'll put it over you. No, I'm concerned about what's going on with what their kids are being taught. You and I I don't know how old you are I think we're closer. I'm 50. I'd be 59 in September. You'll be 59. 59? Did he say 59? You're going to be 60? No dude easy. I'm going to be 59 in September. You're going to 60 already. Oh, I don't know if you know 59 is right next to 60. I

don't know. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, he's, there's no way. I thought we're the same age. I'm 44. I thought you're like in your late 40s. Okay. So it, you know, the picture of Dorian Gray, you know that story is 59 years old. Yeah. Dorian Gray from 50 Shades of Gray. The picture of Dorian Gray, it's this story about how this guy continues to look really fit and attractive his entire life, but up in this attic, there's a portrait of him that is the king, little by little by little.

And it's about this whole, it's an Oscar wad, so it's all about this whole idea that we may look good outside, but we're actually decaying. Wow. You're sending your company in the end. You go to it, for sure. I'll go through a lot. So here's a click on that if you could go. Anthony, you say I'm left, but I'm not far left, right?

There's certain things you don't agree with everything on the left. So here's a question for you. They send me these pictures. That 10-year-old kids can now learn in school. Here's a sex book. If you go a little lower, teaching boys, how to give boys, a blowjob. If you go a little lower, go a little lower right there,

how to give another boy a blow job, keep going lower. Do you think it's appropriate for 10-year-old kids to have to read material like this in schools? I don't know anything about this book. I just, just logic, I mean, you know, let's just say if I'm going to assume all of these facts and evidence, if I'm a, no, I would not, I would not be crazy about my son reading any of that

because he's that age. Well, listen, I appreciate not be crazy about my son reading any of that because he's that age. Well, listen, I appreciate you for being straight up with that because that's exactly what's going on in the state of California. So, and Nusom came out with a video and he said, I can't even send you a clip on the video, it's like, we are not going to let them ban these books and they're doing what happened in these different things. So, let's take a step back here. Let's take a step back.

We're a step back. We're a big country, a lot of teachers, a lot of school districts. We, in this country, in our form of government, we ostentatiously keep education decisions close to home. That they're, well, the education budget's like 4% in the federal government, the budget is tiny, because the things that we're going to do, these determinations we're going to make about schools, we understand the society, we want them to make closer to

home because they should reflect the values of their community. Not every community in every book and every school board and every library is going to do it exactly the way you and I would, but the $64,000 question or the $30,000 foot whatever metaphor you want to use is, we can use these things to try to like poke at this idea that the world's on fire and everything is destroyed everything's wrong or we can say listen that that Classroom has a group of parents that can go to the principal and go to a school board the last thing I want is someone like ronda santa saying that I am going to decide or an italihacis with a capital is in the state Yes, or in italihacis we are going to decide or a tallahashi, this is what the capital is in the state,

or in tallahashi, we are going to decide what books, parents, or kids, or teachers are going to teach. I don't believe politicians are that smart. I don't believe that their values are so much better than the parents in my district are. And I think the hardest thing for a politician to do is say, you know what, I'm not the best person to make this decision. The best person to make this decision.

The best person to make this decision is people, and you know what, people are gonna make mistakes, they're gonna get things wrong. Do I want my son reading that book? No, but I don't know what we get at when we're trying to, like, you know, we're trying to make this suggestion that we're gonna try to, that we are, you're talking about a state that is 3,000 miles away

and you're trying to draw some conclusion about some horrible book. It's not in a in one school. It's in the state. But parents are state. Anthony, you're very well spoken and you're very sharp in a lot of things. Thank you. And no, you are.

I appreciate it. You've spent a good part of your adult life in debate. You're very, very, very good at it. But what you just said, I don't even think you believe. Parents don't really have the ability. You look all over the United States. You have parents trying to go to school boards so they could do this local as you brought up.

They don't have the ability to do that. They have the ability to appear, but they're not being heard. The argument is that you're stuck in. That's the state. What's the evidence my friend the evidence Where do you how many school board meetings you want to pick where parents come up and say I don't want my kids to read this book I don't want my kids you're gonna have parents showing up and other parents are gonna say different things

This is an imperfect thing you get your say in this country Don't get your way and we certainly shouldn't have a say on California books for helping about 3,000 miles away. And why are we animated around these things? Because we're animated around the idea that media relies on conflict. For those of you listening, I'm banging my fists together. Conflict, we love it. So we show something like this and get people to know that. I think we're animators.

I think we're so parenting. I think we're animators. I think we're so parenting. That some parents are animated about the concept of age-appropriate education. Everyone is. No parent. No parent is just entertaining. I'm standing up in favor of inappropriate.

Look teaching. Of course they are. Teaching. Of course they are. Because it's necessary for this argument for you to take that position. My mom was a school teacher. My mom was a school teacher. You brought this to yourself.

You brought. My mom was a school teacher for 30 something years. I can tell you how, and I have been to so many school board meetings, is what I used to do. I would go out and come back from Washington, or on the city council, and I'd go to community meetings. People fight about stuff. These are not easy issues.

Now, if I were a parent, and my school was doing it, I'd go to a school with me to be pissed off of them, and I think I'd probably win that case and say, we shouldn't be teaching this. But the other... You are a I'm not if you're a parent I'm not a parent. You show me some excerpt that discuss Whether it's California New York. This is not a California Anthony that's when you

You're not No, no, no, no, you're you and I just heard 11 year old son was exposed to this or a grown adult a grown man was texting your 11 year old son What would you do about that's not the question we're seeing you you're just a small and excerpt from a california book that i'd the one what would you do of someone you found someone texting your site just uh... we're let's take with the books for a second i just told you what i would do if that book appeared in in in my my sons teaching

i would do that i would go to the school where i go to the administrator i'd rally to other parents to go to it because that's the way we make decisions at that level about these things. We don't do it on podcasts from thousands of miles away, who are profiting from the unobtests when a particular who are profiting from Catholic Fox News all day is around finding these foibles, accelerating them to giant things in our country,

talking about woke this and woke that, and every poll shows we're more divided than we've ever been. All I'm saying is that we make these decisions in an imperfect way, and I'm not saying on hangers get it right. Hang on, hang on, hang on, you were poking at Pat for changing the subject. You just went to media using conflict to make ad revenue, and that's your business model. Okay, you're correct about that, but let's go back here. This is not a 3,000 mile away issue.

There are school boards all across all 50 states pick one where parents are bringing this up but they're being told no and they're being pushed back. I stated that. You stated that before and I said bring me some evidence I've seen more in the other direction. I've seen no no no. I mean you say well I didn't see that. I've seen thousands of books that have abandoned removed from shelves and libraries all around by legislatures getting over there. I don't need to say answer this question. Who do you think is more equipped to make these decisions for a local community? The local community school boards and the local community administrators or

legislators a half a state away who don't even represent that district. Who would you think? I think we've already said that with the people in the school board but it's not happening but what is the issue is that happening at the end of the year judgment the point of a three thousand miles away is you're making a judgment on their ability to do their jobs i get it maybe if i was doing a judgment the book so they do school district in mississippi i might make different decisions but i'm a Jew from brookland so i'm not going to do that if the books for the books are in the classroom,

that means the parents have lost. And they're in the classrooms. And yeah, it'll guess, there might be a book in a classroom in Mississippi that I don't like. I'm a guy from Brooklyn, New York. And so maybe let's let the legislature do it. Let's let the governor do it. Maybe we should elect a president who wants to do it.

I mean, it's just to remember something. You want this perfect formulation of every decision being exactly where Fox News wants it at all times. No, she's going to get screwed up sometimes. What did it do? I didn't say president, I didn't say legislature. I know. You keep going back upstream. I know. I'm narrowing the scope of conflict to say this is this local area.

No. I'm using this as an alternative argument. No, I am to make the opposite argument, which I believe is being made here. You're seeing with 3,000 miles away, and we don't like a decision being made in a school district in California. No, you're narrowing. No, no, no, no, you're narrowing the point. Very good, Counselor.

You're narrowing the point down to 3,000 miles away as if that's the only place that's happening. It's not. The book serens in classrooms all across the United States. And for you to say that over and over again, and I keep trying to make, since we don't have a specific example, except the one that's been on the screen,

I will make the general argument that it's none of your business. It's none of your business. Your business is your school district. Your business is, now it's a whole world is coming to an end because California's all fucked up. It's the other way around. It's none of your business what I do with my kids. You don't get to teach my kids about certain issues

like this on LGBTQ at certain age. And at third grade, you wanna talk about sex and all of a sudden, that's not your business. Patrick, why are you so powerless with all of your business? Patrick, why are you so powerless what goes on in your your business? Patrick, why are you so powerless? What goes on in your kids' school? No, not powerless. You're gonna make decisions.

Exactly. I make decisions. I never feel powerless at all. Exactly. So why are you so powerless? I'm not doing anything to your kids. The concept of running for boards, you're 100% right. We did a video talking about what was a video title brand

and we talked about parents, you got to go run for board and rather than complain about it. You're gonna do something about it. Absolutely. We're for it. But to gonna do something about it. Absolutely. You were for it. But to say these types of issues, you're 59 years old, 15 years older than me, in school, when you were 12 years old, did anybody teach you how to give a blowjob? I don't believe anyone taught me how to give a blowjob Patrick.

Do you think you needed to learn how to do that at 10 or 12 years old? I have trouble accessing that part of my memory. I highly doubted, you're a very sharp guy. So for me, I was not a player at 12, let me guarantee you. Suck another, the boy's dangling is not a player. I'm asking you a question about what it was to, if that was something you needed to learn at the age of 10 or 11 or 12, that part is,

Patrick, Patrick, Patrick, you don't need a question right now. I have an 11 year old, ask me about my 11 year old. I can't answer easily. But the point is, the fact that two things, when I agree with them, when I disagree with them, the area I agree with them is a following. Kudos to you for straight up saying, no, I don't support something like that

if that was the case. Kudos to you, for saying that. No, number two, kudos to you for saying parents do something about it. They are. And many of these districts, they are. They're fighting. And they're doing their part. In both directions.

Yeah. They're fighting in both. They're fighting to stop book bands and they're fighting. This is the way it's been in America since the birth of our country. But we weren't this insane 20 years ago. We weren't this way. Let's pause on that point. 20 years ago.

Let's pause on this point. I can give you Gallup. Let's, let's, let's's let's pause on that point. 30 years ago. Yeah, I can give you gallup Let's let's research all of this stuff. Let's let's pause on this. Yeah, go ahead. I do believe that yes cultural things change and that conversations about homosexuality, about transgender, about gay marriage have changed in almost not. We are a country of we are a progressive country in all kinds of different ways. But we also should acknowledge that we do have an echo chamber in this country that loves stuff like this. We have at least one candidate for president who wanted to stock and trade things, is this

amorphous word about taking woke is amount. We do have a marketplace that is accelerating these conflicts beyond California, beyond our neighborhood town halls, to be echo chamber types of things that we are here thousands of miles away arguing about them. There is a market for this. I don't believe it's a healthy market Patrick. I don't. And every week I try to say to my audience, okay, listen, let's try to return to the place that we can have conversations around things like how we structure government, how we make decisions, how we try to return to the place that we can have conversations around things like how we structure government, how we make decisions, how we try to find our values expressed in government

in ways that don't necessarily, and I can tell you the values in a school board in Mississippi and a values of the school board in Chelsea, New York might be different. We don't have to treat that as a threat to our kids. Period. Mm-mm. Yeah, I want to pull up a couple of articles here for you, but you know what, before doing that, I just want to get to my last point here. So, you were very eloquent on the way you defended Hillary Clinton

on who she was when it comes onto politics. Are you still close to that family? I'm not. Okay, so who do you think between the two was a better politician? You think Bill's a better politician? between the two was a better politician? Bill's a better politician, you think Hillary's a better politician. I don't think Hillary was a particularly good politician. Okay, so she's a better strategist, you would say.

She's more strategic power. She is a classic blooming where she's potted kind of public official. Everything that she has been given to do, I watched her, you know, as a rookie elected official come into New York and become an amazing senator. I watched her at Secretary of State. She blooms where she's spotted. She knows government well. She's smart as a very, very smart person.

But I can tell you that it's hard, I think it was hard for her to get her sea legs being the first woman to get a candidate of a major party. I think it was hard for her to get her sea legs being the first woman to count it as a major party. I think it was hard for her to get her sea legs in the framing of Bill Clinton's wife. I think it was a lot of things. A lot of challenge she faced that you and I would not face on the camera. Do you think she's a good person? I do. Okay. So you know when we you know announced the fact that we're interviewing you we kind of crowdsource with the audience what questions do you want to ask and then then our research team will go and say, hey, is there any credibility to this or not? And then we don't waste our time. So hey, we're having Anthony Wienerant. Great.

So you have to ask them about a frazzled rip. Go look it up. Oh, this video is a deep fake. No, no, any credibility to it on what happened with Hillary Clinton and whom on all this stuff. Nope, we're not going to ask them about that because I don't yet see a real source. A lot of it was stuff that conspiracy, all this stuff that's being said, we're not going there. You need to ask them about Pizza Gate because that's exactly what's going on with kids. Yeah, no, we're not going there. That's not something we're going to be asking them about.

Yeah, you need to ask them about this. You need to ask them about this. I said, okay. All of these things that they said we have to ask you about. To be fair, it's Bill Clinton officiated your wedding with whom are your wife if I'm not mistaken. So you've been very close and your wife, is it still wife or is it ex-wife? I think it's separated since 2017, right? We're separated, we co-parent Jordan, but we're separated. Okay. And you know, she was a right hand person to Hillary Clinton in 2016 while the scandal was taking place

Years before that she was with Hillary for she's 25 20 years and and the whole thing with the life insurance You know the the email 650,000 the one folder with award life insurance and the files that are in there So the next thing that that people said you ought you got to ask him as the following so You know Rob if you can pull up this story, I'm like, I'm not going to bind to this one. Well, nine out of 12 cops, NYPD, who saw the email and saw what was in that laptop, you know, committed suicide. And it was, you know, seven of them since June, and it was the most ever that this took place. And these are the men that committed suicide. So then we went on looked it up and we're like, no,

they did commit suicide, but it wasn't linked directly to Seeing the laptop or the intel there no problems. So again, no credibility there So there's no reason to ask you the question about the nine out of 12 cops that saw it and Even be listing them and give it oxygen. No, my job is to listen because I like to Released we shouldn't be listing these things. Yeah, it is what it is It's just if people actually are these are theories. These are conspiracy theories that some people about the North and the North and the North and the North. But the one thing that that we did look up that wasn't a conspiracy theory was the following. And this

is the one that's kind of weird and and first thing I ask myself is how to hell is our our guy here Anthony Wiener still alive. What do you mean by that? Well, when you go through the list of people that have been close to Hillary Clinton and a Clinton's, and a Deadpool, this is not a conspiracy. You got the names of James McDougal, okay? Clinton's convicted white water partner, died of an apparent heart attack, you know,

Mary Mahoney, a former White House intern was murdered July 1997 at a Starbucks coffee shop in Georgetown. Ron Brown, he died in a coffee shop in a coffee shop. Vince Foster. Vince Foster. Vince Foster was a next one. By the way, James Duga was a key witness and a key can start investigation.

Ron Brown was in a plane crash. Why is he on the list? Ron Brown is another one, but there was a close person to this. Victor Razer, you got Paul Tully, Ed Wolley. Wait a minute. You're reading a list of people that Bill and Hillary Clinton knew. I'm asking you, they're eight, they're seven, something years ago. I'm asking you this question. I'm asking you this question and an answer at the end.

So you got Jerry Parks, Jane Bunch, James Wilson, Kathy Ferguson, Bill Shelton, Tandy Bout, Floyd Smart and Susan Coleman, Paula Grober, Danny Castolero, Paula Wilker, John Farnow Walker, Barbara Weiss, we should verify this yourself, because you're running a radio, she should look it up. I don't know many of these names. I don't know many of these names. Dr. Stanley heard Barry Beale, Barry Seale, Johnny Long. Can you read me the URL you're reading?

Can you read me the URL you're reading? We'll send you to most critical sources, you can look it up. We'll put the link below. We'll put the link below. We'll put the link below. We'll put the link below. We'll put the link below. We'll put the link below. We'll put the link below. We'll put the link below. We'll put the link below. We'll put the link below. We'll put the link. Tell me so I know what I'm going to Friday. Kevin Ivy Dan Henry, Keith Coney. And these were a part of the Ivy

Henry case. Keith McCaskill. It's the Ivy Henry case. You can look it up. Ivy Henry case. So Gregory Collins, Jeff Rhodes, James Milland, Richard Winter, and then you got the close bodyguards major William Barclay, Captain Scott Reynolds, Brian Hanley, Tim Sable, General William even what you're a list of how is this? How is the Robert Kelly kernel Gary Rhodes Steve wills Robert Williams Conway LaBrouille Todd McKin I'm done It's 46 names and What do you read the list when I read to the URL? I know what you're gonna list up when I finish this when I finished is when I finished is still in the storm.com

You can look it up still in the storm.com You can can look it up. So still in the storm.com, this is your big moment, guys. Yeah, so you can go, I'm out of the way. And it adds about Kim Trale to the end of it. He hasn't even asked the question. It's just reading the article. He's reading, oh, he's reading a list of names. So he hasn't even asked the question. It's a list.

The fact that you're getting nervous is an answer. It's not nervous. It's just this stuff. Let me wrap it when you read. Exactly. It makes us sick as well. It also makes us sick. It obviously doesn't, because the establishment makes the

said the question by reading a list of Well your reaction as an answer in spirits. I know these things make me sick and people Not a kid as an answer. Someone went into a pizza bowl in Washington because they believe this shit and you're making an echo chamber. Your reaction is an answer. So let me go to it here now. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, your reaction is an answer. Your reaction is my reaction. Yeah, exactly. Can you tell me what that list in your view? You haven't allowed me to No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, are, you're reading them on a list of something, making some kind of, as if it's somehow suspicious. You don't even know who these human beings are, who are families who are like out there.

And now you're reading. And you're reading. And you're reading. And you're reading. And you're reading. And you're reading. And you're reading. And you're reading.

And you're reading. And you're reading. And you're reading. And you're reading. And you're reading. And you're reading. And you're reading. And you're reading. And you're reading then tell me. I will, pull up Vince Foster if you want. No, Vince Foster, that suicide has been investigated

50 times. Pull up though some of the obscure names you pulled. Yeah, why did you pull Ron Brown? Hey, let me read Ron Brown. Ron Brown, a Commerce Secretary, you could play and crash while he was on a humanitarian mission crash to the side of a mountain. So what do you want to know about Ron Brown?

Would you want to know about Ron Brown? Can you let me ask the question? No, listen, this is a conversation. No, no, no. I'm sorry, I'm the host. You and Captain Ture Podcast, you get me ask the question? This is a conversation. No, no, no, I'm sorry. I'm the host you and you're podcast you get to ask the question I'm the host you want to ask you the question? I'm gonna ask you the question I let me ask the question your reaction is already an answer. I know I am infuriated by people I understand why you would be who are powerless. You're not power Clinton is No, these people Hillary Clinton is powerful. That's the problem

These people I know these people Hillary Clinton is powerful. That's the problem He's people You had a list of people without the power to do it. I don't know people who do that are boys I don't appreciate that. I have the power to do what you do to read a list of some Strangers names that do J and other things to control and I'm not the DOJ Yeah, DOJ didn't make this late finish up my question. I can't listen to his basement You're reading your names as if they're incriminating you some way to Answering and I don't and I stand up against bully please do so you have to ask the question I'm reading a list and he's refuted and I know since let's move on no no I expect your answer

body has said he hasn't even asked the question the question pick a name. I'm gonna ask you question Reading and you get to answer people who are not answer and there are some of those people that had military titles in front of me You're dragging their name even the point dragging their name through the point you should be ashamed of yourself Because your families would want to know because you've got a problem if you really would want to know some conspiracy theory podcasts A conspiracy theory that nine people read you find some guy to contact and then you go you go from Ron Brown to some obscure Officer that used to protect Bill Clinton, who passed away. May he maybe, may he rest in peace for his service. And you are dragging them into some

wacky conspiracy theories. May all of them rest in peace. So here's the question for you, because millions of people are not convinced Hillary Clinton has a good person. Again with the other people. Millions of people. Who do myself, if you wanna do that, I'm not a,

I'm not worried about that. Don't try to make it about some bozo-inputable website. So, here's a question for you guys. It's a very simple question for you. So, how is it when you think about other candidates? Okay. Everybody has a stereotype.

You have a reputation whether you like it or not. What's your reputation? Your reputation with you like it or not. What's your reputation? Your reputation is you like to text underage girls, and you like to talk to girls, and you sex sending pictures of your dangling. That's your reputation. Whatever you do, you can't do anything about it. Adam has a reputation.

Adam is a playboy in Miami. You better get back to that list of strangers. You're all listening. I'm getting back to it. Tom's got a reputation. His reputation is a man who... And right now your reputation is of strangers. You're out of this. I'm getting back to it. Tom's got a reputation. His reputation is a man who. And right now your reputation is listing strangers and I served in the military and I have a reputation to ask tough questions and pissing people like you off. That's my reputation. Including dead people. I'm going to stand up for. Oh, trust me. We are standing

up for them more than you are standing up for them. Let's say you better get back to that list because we're going to clear some people's names today. My question for you is, my question for you is, how is it that in the last 50 years, we don't have a single candidate. Everybody has their own, hey, John F. K. was a playboy with Marilyn Monroe, Trump, Karen, Medougo, Stormy Daniels, you know, George Bush, Link to 9-11

and weapons of mass destruction, Bill Clinton, Link to Arkansas, women, all this others, everybody has a reputation. How is it that the reputation that follows them as people close to them die? Why is that a story that many people believe in? Why is that? How are the Clintons in their 70s yet?

If I, you don't think I can make a list of other people who are 70 something years old and say this person I have done that was perfect. Hold on. How come to have done that will Bush? He's in the same same age. I have no freaking idea Why I haven't done that? But so are you saying so you agree with what I'm saying? I'm done. I would Reagan. So how come to have a none that would carry what are you making about these men and women? Who is so many people close to them? Die. How is it so many people close to them? Everybody dies.

How was it so many people? You suggesting, okay, I'm asking the question as well. You're asking a bizarre question, huh? Exactly. Did people die? Did people die? No, what pisses me off of? I'm gonna say this again because you're apparently

not listening to me. You had a list of people off an obscure website that that of conspiracy theory, taking a vend diagram of everyone that ever worked in the orbit of someone who served in public life for 50 years. And you listed them, including people in the military, including strangers you could not pull out of it. And you are implying that there's something to figure. Let me finish my thought. Let me finish my thought. Please do so, because I got another question. Let me finish my thought.

You're implying both with the question and with the website. The website says it explicitly. You're implying it. Let me finish. Go ahead. You're implying that something's done. You're implying that something's done. Go for it.

You are implying that something nefarious is a foot both with the question. Yeah. And with the list. Hillary Clinton, she's a big girl. I'm a big boy. You're a big boy. The people that you just listed They're all listen to me. No, these are obscure people that you could not pull out of Repolitician body. Wait a whole life.

But let me let me you know what you are you are you are the classic bull you list someone's name You are you gonna go back and clear anybody that's Are you gonna go clear about you know what are you gonna clear your personality is I don't really know that at how many attack on me. Yeah, he's good at somehow clear that person's name There's an anybody at this table. That's a bigger bully. I tell you. Oh, yeah, you just listed some stranger with with Very good with P.S.A. Pining good you you're reading some good for you reading a

Conspiracy website for you some people say yeah, some people say You want to Wikipedia conspiracy website? You want Some people say. Some people say. Look at it. We just sent to you. You want to compete. You want to take a right me. Bring it all day. Hey, bring it. We're going to do an body camp. Conspiracy theory. Right at the top. We're going to do a mic. I can drop conspiracy. Right at the top. What's the point with that? The point is conspiracy theories are by their very definition on People don't have this conspiracy theory How come Reagan doesn't have this conspiracy theory? Oh wait a minute I can't bush doesn't have this conspiracy theory

The Oh, wow really why do they though some of the stereotypes are true like you have some reputation It's true some of it some of the stuff they say about true. That's that stereotype that's a made up story about strangers. How come others don't have that made up story? People have it all the time. Look at the internet. Give me another body count with another president or candidate. Do you really think that someone can do me a favor, for another?

Barack Obama body count. Do you really think, oh, you're like, oh, why don't you go to Barack Obama, not born in this country? By the way, where was that podcast? Did you guys do that one? No, that's never a good one. Why? Oh, why?

Oh, come on. So people say it. There's a Wikipedia thing on it. These people are strangers that you just read a list of. And I think out of deference to them. You're a dark human being guy. You're pretty dark. Settle down.

No, no, no, you're pretty dark. You take the angle you did. You should cut. Listen to me. You're talking about this now. You should cut that list out of those people. Sure. We can still have the argument.

You and I are a big boy. Cut that list out. I'm not going to be cutting that list because the world. That's right. Here's what everybody is. It's a world need. That poor person's family that you can't even name. Exactly.

That, some people say, what does it matter now? There are dead. Some people say. What does it matter now? Some people say. You play that clip again. Say this podcast. So say some people say, what does it matter now? They're dead. Some people say. What does it matter now? Some people say. Some people say. Say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, say, Why some people apologize to those people realize why some people you should apologize to those people Are you keep saying that what do you apologize about listing those people on some obscure website as if something about their Death was shrouded in some kind of a mystery dishonors their memory now

If you are if you are Hillary Clinton or Anthony we know that sound fine if you are Hillary Clinton or Anthony Wiener, that would sound fine. If you are some person, if you are some person who has one of these jackasses on the internet showing up at their doorstep, saying, tell me about the death of your father, how did Hillary Clinton, we had someone walk into a pizzeria in Washington with a gun because of that. I heard that phrase before by other people. Play it again. Play it again. I've heard this phrase a couple of times.

Oh, they watched the whole band, guys, let's go. The whole band, guys, no, it's the phrase. The fact is, we had four kids. No, of course it was Americans. It was because of a protest or was it because of guys out there walking. Ben Guazi, let's get the whole Ben Guazi. No, no, it's the phrase. The fact is, we had four Ben Guas. The fact is, we had four Ben Guas. The fact is, we had four Ben Guas. The fact is, we had four Ben Guas. The fact is, we had four Ben Guas.

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Scretts here? You're duplicating it very well. You're duplicating that. You disagree with her point? Of course I do. You do? Of course I do. That matters whether it was a protest that came from Libya to the to that family. You know, to that family. And by the way, do you know, you know, why she cleaned the Republicans clock in that hearing? Because she talked about how many times clean the clock. She and her president guy, That's cleaning the clock. The American people cleaned her clock Oh, and the Benghazi here focus. Yeah, why do you think she's not a president? Why do you think she's not a president? The American people Green of a clip and then you want to change it to two dozen. Let's talk about that clip for a second

She got to the Republicans so go back to it. Here's what you're doing right now, which is fantastic You just influence a lot of people to go do their own due diligence. You just influence a lot of people. You can find other. No, you did that for yourself. I saw what you did by listing the the conspiracy there is you're not going to ask about. I saw it about those things. I'm sorry, that was dishonorable. Which parts are soundable? The list of conspiracy through you know is bullshit, but still putting it out there. But this thing, there's a lot of credibility sources

behind this person. People want bullshit, not true. Look at what you had a site. Site any media that you would ever read in your day-to-day life for that. Site anything. Go call one of those people. You still can't answer questions, Sam.

How many of you are produced? No, you make a point in our response to it. And when you're produced, just call up one of those families and tell them if they want to be listed in one of these conspiracy podgers. You're so sweet for saying that. You're so sweet for playing this deceptive game. I gotta tell you from watching you for the last two.

I gotta tell you from- This is not what you're used to, man. I'm sorry. I actually, it's funny. I texted with someone, and should I give them what they're used to or should I, whatever, and they said just whatever. You know how I know who you were the moment you walked here

You know how I know who you like because I disagree with you We have too much of this no, let me tell you who you are guys me. You are this is good. Me. Yeah, you're getting good Consent this is this is who you are you walk up here and you said what's your name? I'm sorry I You don't know no no you said what's your And then you say, I call my friends to say, should I give these guys this? You know the name, you know the show, but you're the pin.

No, no, no, no, no. I was trying to find if you use your heart first name. So it's like the final. I apologize. I apologize. I apologize. No, no, no, no. I apologize.

You put it in your first sentence. I didn't know if you used, and I was willing to give you a fair share. I apologize. You walked up as an asshole. No, no, no, no, no. I apologize. I apologize. I didn't know if you used the short version of your name. walked up as an asshole. No, no, no, no. I apologize.

I apologize. I didn't know if you used the short version of your name. I should have researched that. No, no, no, no. You said, what's your name? I know, but to see if you would give me a hint of a new saying. No, and then what I said. What would you do with me when I'm not a Tony or Anthony?

I got a big memory like you, guy. You said what's your name? I said Patrick. Then you asked, do you prefer paddle Patrick? That's a, if you know what I'm, it's Patrick. You would have eliminated one of the questions and you would have asked. So the point is,

and by the way, I was hoping you'd identify yourself. I didn't find myself as a male, as a father, as an entrepreneur. I apologize. Go back to your question. I apologize. Do you accept my men's from?

I apologize. I respect your gayness for that. But the point I'm making to you is if you come in like that and I'm asking you a question, you're reacting to what you do. You're reading too much into it. You're reading too much it I apologize for that that was socially wrong with me to do is trying to learn with you go by

patipatric I apologize I could have asked one of your man I could have asked people I apologize for that and I hope you accept my immense for that when you did show up and this isn't a name call you were kind of do she at the first five minutes I got some bad news as I walked on stage. Yeah, okay. Well, I got some bad news. I'm having trouble. We have common one issue. You're saying it is, and maybe you guys can help me with it.

No, I'm gonna make my point, and then you say you're bad news. I also had bad news today. I mean, I'm sorry. Just because you had bad news doesn't need to be a douche bag when you walk on a stage. I don't think I was a douchebag. You're talking about the flow, that you're talking about, I don't know who you guys are.

You're making some kind of a talk. You're asking Patrick, his name is on the freaking show. It was pretty do she do No, and we have people that we disagree with more than you're going back to the Patrick pat thing I apologize to that I make a man for that the thing about the pun it was a serious thing Why yes about this landlord? It was I was actually the freaking landlord dog Oh, you're being funny. Of course, I'm I didn't't know how to talk. The moment I felt you're that guy, I had to give it back to you. Of course I'm the one who's.

You're like the landlord sucks here. What's going on? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Patrick's like, yeah, the landlord sucks it. He's the freaking landlord. Let's let the audience in on this. There's a big flood outside of just rain. I'm unfamiliar with that kind of torrential thing

that you'd go in your check. You don't know anything and you're just like, this sucks, this sucks, this sucks. What's your name? It's like that's how you start a conversation Okay, let's hear mom. Okay, first. I have made a man's for the Patrick thing And and I should have done it. I should have done it sooner It was not any son of disrespect I just didn't know if it was Patrick. I get that a lot people will sometimes say

Anthony or Ant or Tony and I said I just said Anthony. I didn't mean it to be that way as far as the small talk the awkwardness I I And I said, I just said Anthony, I didn't mean it to be that way. As far as the small talk, the awkwardness, I apologize. I'm a radio guy who was brought up in a time of media and social media that didn't have a lot of this as a politician. So I assumed, I thought we were doing a podcast, so I was disoriented by some of this. Combined with the fact I got some bad news just before I got on the air, I apologize, I make make a man and I don't mind telling you

that I am out of practice of this kind of three on one you know I'm fine doing it it harkens back to a time when I would do this for a living and I didn't think it was that great to watch but when it comes to the thing that triggered nature and I'm just Anthony with just be clear, we're just being intentioned, Anthony, just to be clear, we strategized before this, what conversations they want to have under no circumstances, was this a gang up on? No, no, no, I know.

Often times, I agree with you. No, the dynamic. I was referring to the dynamic. But what triggered me about that, I'm going to try to say a comment because I feel like I was yelling, which was my intention. What triggered me about that is that I don't think sometimes people fully appreciate that these crazy

out there theories that give people who need to find a narrative to explain the unexplained in their lives, to give them some comfort, have real harm it causes in the world. When I have to get a security detail to walk with my son to school and my wife has to be concerned about being pushed on a subway track, they have real costs. And so when real people, substantial people,

people with real platforms like the people in this room, stand up and elevate it, even to elevate it to say we're not going to talk about it, elevate it, and then read from one of these websites a list of names. I don't know who those people are. I do know who the police officers and the other conspiracy theories. I do know the harm it does to their families who are dealing with with the suicide to get called, to have crazy people coming off the streets because they want to prove something. Ask about me, ask about

my laptop, ask about Hunter Biden, ask about my experience with the criminal justice, ask about being in prison, ask about Hillary Clinton. We're big boys and girls. You want to put Ron Brown on a case that the Clinton's murdered someone who had a tragedy, a plane crash, and that he was such a renowned person as a building named after him across the United Nations, that's fine. These individuals who get caught up in these bizarre webs deserve better and they deserve someone to stand up and say enough. And it shouldn't be this, you guys are big deal, you have five million, whatever followers. So we're doing, we're saying enough, enough with the establishment. Okay, but you could have done that through without reading that list of names.

Of course I have to read the name because in that case, let's go name by name so we can clear their names. Of course I could have listened. And by the way, the way the reason why you know it's by the way let me let me let me say one final point there's nothing wrong with saying you know what that's true I could have done the story without reading that list of random people's names. I couldn't have done it without it and I'm a guy that's very comfortable. Go back to them. Then if you think it made a point then let's go back to the list of names. So one by one you can tell me what you think that

person did. Here's here. I'm can tell me what you think that person did. Here's, here's. I'm a person just so you know, who doesn't believe this stuff? Just so you know, I don't believe this, but a lot of people do. That does not mean it's something you should elevate. But that's, that's the more I'm saying. And if you're gonna elevate it, so why can't you have that conversation? A lot of people believe in Flat Earth.

A lot of people believe that Barack Obama was important in this country. Here's the distinction I made. I believe that Obama's born. Here's the distinction I made. I believe that Obama's born a distinction. I made it. You can't have that conversation. I'm not saying. I have one said you don't have a conversation. Yes, you didn't want to even read the list.

No, the list is not the conversation. Of course it is. There's quite a different thing to say that we believe that there is a place that they're skinning babies in the basement and not say, here's the name of the pizzeria and the guy that owns in his address. Do you see that distinction?

Do you? Of course you do, because it's being responsible. It's a, you can have a conversation about a crazy conspiracy theory without listening some poor stranger's name on a list of 45 names. By the way, go tell that to Google. Go tell that to Google. Do not put it on with the name. No, no, no, you have to go tell that to Google. You have a responsibility higher than Google. You don't take everything you need to put on your hair. Okay, let me ask you a question. So MSNBC CNN, the way you're like Fox News this,

Fox News that how many stories as CNN and MSNBC said that ended up not being true the last five, six years? How many of them? God knows a ton of them, right? So I know what we're going to do. We're going to go out there and do this. That's a fair question, Anthony. For people to walk in, you get all on.

Sure stories are untrue, but let's not change the Let me wrap up. Let's not change the victim here. The victim here is not the world. The victim is that individual family. This is exactly why we're doing it. This is why everything you want. Are you going to go back to that list and say these people didn't do anything wrong? You know what time they didn't do that?

You know what time I want your documentary last night? I have nothing to do with that. I don't want the list. That's all I ask. End it out the list. We have no argument. You know what time I watch your documentary last night. We wrapped up here.

What time do we wrap up here? 11, 30, 12 o'clock? I go to the house. I watch your documentary from 12 to 1. It's good, did you go yet? I mean, people say things about it. It's five minutes. And no joke.

And hour and 35 minutes, one and five minutes. Everybody has to watch your documentary. And I'm telling you right now, to really understand who he is. Because the way the exchange, the him and his wife, the dynamics right after this, they're running around. It's a very, our 35 feels like five minutes. Okay. So I said he's a great campaigner. I can give credit to that. He's a hustler. He's a worker. He's going out there rattling, challenging, fighting. He's a fighter, right? Forget about all the other stuff. There's

a good things that we can learn from it. My entire question was, the following question. How the hell is Anthony Weiner still alive? Because you know the whole, what is that word? A dead man switch? Is that what it's called? A dead man switch? How, you know, this guy has so much information on them that they would want to come to think.

What are you buying into? I think Anthony, I think if there's 10 people in America that have the most dirt on the Clintons, I think you're on that list. I'm not, I would do a dirt. They're the most examined people, even people are making up stuff. There's so much, they're the most examined people on earth.

What are you, what? You call them honorable, you call them honest. I do. I do. Okay. Great. So guess what? I do.

Don't agree with you. I know, but here's the, but let me, let me, let me, let me, let me, let me, let me, let me, this whole idea, people say, okay. You're too smart for people say. You have amazing opinions. You articulate the very well. You don't need to go back to this. I'm not uncomfortable.

No, but that's the, I understand. But Patrick, let me just but Patrick, let me just, Patrick, let me just get to my point. You don't need people on crazy websites say. You don't say why is Wikipedia say. You don't say why is this say? You can state your own opinion. If you believe something, I can have a conversation

with you about it. But there's all kinds of things that are wrong, that are not on the level, that are dishonorable, that are dangerous, and that are harmful to regular people. Not you, the four of us, we're going to be fine. Hillary Clinton is going to be fine. Bill Clinton is going to be fine. Our friends that work for Bill, they're going to be fine.

But these people who are anonymous people that get caught up in this, or even worse, crazy people that show up on doorsteps of people Because they believe stuff that gets elevated we have to just because it's out there Doesn't mean we have to elevate it. That's all I'm saying so did dirt. What dirt do you imagine that I have? I mean ask me anything. I'm here. Ask me anything. I think you Ask me anything I think you know so much what you oh But I think you know so much what you would oh You know so much. It's not even fun What do you think with the most examined people on earth protected? I think you are so protected by by watching you

Protected I was literally sent to prison for for for sexting. Yeah, I protected am I and I don't think you would consider me Protected when I was in the can either pal. What do you mean protected? No, my life was destroyed? Where's the deep state when I fucking needed them do let me tell you your your truly a flag here you're to them and it's very hard to find people like I told you I'm not close with them anymore I was I'm ostracized because they love to whom I was I was I married into that relationship I respect the quality of loyalty and you're super loyal to the Clint I just want to demystify for people who think there's some giant cabal around everything that you know what? Sometimes shit just happens.

Sometimes people just, you know, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, look on Twitter, Anthony, we just laptop and look how many Wacadoodle, four follower crazy in the middle of nowhere who believe shit about that laptop. So you know what? The Trump administration had that laptop. But Trump administration had out there protecting Hillary Clinton, they released the content so that laptop. So do you know out of those 46 people who I mentioned earlier,

I trust most of them, probably of course voted for, what do you call it, Clintons, and I trust most of their family. Family one, who's the people about Anthony Wiener's laptop? No, no, relax. Oh, I'm sorry. Let me finish. Just pay attention, we got nine more minutes we're done, no, relax. Oh, I'm sorry. Let me finish. Just pay attention. We got nine more minutes.

We're done. You can text anybody. I'm just dealing with everything. You got to get off texting sometimes. So for me, when I think about those 46 names, OK, and I ask myself, they're probably supporters of Clintons, and they're probably supporters of what they stood for, and probably even their families.

But this whole thing started off with a couple different things. I asked you a question about RFK. It took a half a second to realize, he doesn't have your vote. You don't even like the guy. I got the feeling I didn't expect the guy to be. I didn't give him a pretty punchy, but-

Yeah, totally funny. You were straight up about it, which I respect, you didn't hold back. But to me, what started to happen is the following. When you go back years ago and say an emperor But to me, what's starting to happen is the following. When you go back a year ago and say an emperor or the establishment had somebody that went up against the establishment emperor or the leader, like let's just say some powerful people, they have to kill him off, they have to kill all their sons off because eventually someone's

going to seek vengeance. And that vengeance may take a decade two decades three decades four decades five decades I think RFK is the complete opposite of a person that says what difference does that make And he wants to find out if the establishment is a real thing and how much power they got I hear you That's all it is I hear you And I know the some people say thing. It's I get that This notion of establishment is the hobgoblin of little minds We are a country of This notion of establishment is the hobgoblin of little minds.

We are a country of millions of people that all come from different places that are very divided and the people that go into government are, are come from all different places. Sometimes they're politically appointed, usually they're not. And this notion of an establishment, if there's so many instances, if there was an establishment that things would have gone very differently, we want to blame someone, we want an explanation, we every life does not give you Patrick narratives that are all so tight. Sometimes people just disagree on stuff. Some people, sometimes people just are wrong about stuff.

Totally fine. So like this whole idea that everything has to be some kind of a conspiracy or an establishment. There's no establishment out there. It's just a bunch of people. It's just a who's giving a name of someone who's in the establishment today. I'm in America because Mitch McConnell, you're the establishment. You guys are five million dollar, five million on your establishment. You're a comedian is what you are you guys bigger smaller than MSNBC. The swamp is the established you bigger smaller than MSNBC. You're more eyeballs. Okay, so establishment. No, you know what it tells you.

MSNBC is literally called the main street. He is talking point for whatever the establishment wants him to say. Who's the biggest cable company in America? Fox because there's only one of them. Yeah. There's only one of them. 99% of everybody else is out. But are they established? No, absolutely not.

Of course they are. By the way, there are giant multinational cooperation with the most watched TV. Let me restate that. Let me restate that. Of course they just stay. Let me restate that. The murder act is not established. Let me restate that.

Yes, I don't disagree on the part with. So, Rupert Murdock did everything he could to stop Hillary Clinton. No, no, no. So then you have two members of the establishment So who's the establishment in that case? Oh no, no this is two sides of the same No guys, so I'm sitting so for me Okay, long this time for the longest time Anthony and Hillary no, no, he was working for Trump It would have been Jeb Bush and Hillary. Yeah, who would have been establishment. That's the establishment correct Okay, Kennedy's weren't the establishment. They're the anti-establishment. I I know but you're picking names and say this is that let's let's take your good

You're good at you said let's just the Clintons the by This Fox knows what the established is Rupert Murdoch the establishment I think if he supports the establishment he is obviously it's a let me finish a question obviously You've been working as the establishment he Supports the establishment he is a talking yet for the establishment. Yes, I know what they establish me He runs on the national corporation Murdoch likes Trump I don't care likes doesn't like you stay like dark like strong. You're saying the establishment is so powerful I'm pointing out the single biggest media organ in the country is in establishment things Okay, so yes if that's your definition of establishment. media organ in the country is in establishment things. Okay.

So yes, if that's your definition of establishment, yeah, is YouTube an establishment? The establishment. Yeah, YouTube at the top is because I don't know. YouTube has this and it has the crazy kid and it has my 30 people watching me on up on the stream. Yeah. So I think it's going to go up after this one. Oh, really?

Yeah. You're going to get, you're going to get, because we got to put the link to your show. And if people heard this, they're going to go watch your show. Rob. I guarantee you, you're going to see your neck. When is it going to happen? No, actually, the only way I can do this for my show. Let me come do it.

Hold it on the other side. You're on the other side of the live, but it's obviously, I was a black camera. I love you, it's going to be your biggest show. I guarantee you to be a big issue. All right, you're on. All right, put it. But this isn't, I want you to dinner. No, we don't have. I was gonna tell, I wanted to talk to you off camera

about this, like the different ways you see things. We don't really have, our guys, our listeners are not, I mean, I do, we put it out in the phone, we'll not get it. But our guys will find you. What's the name of your broadcast on YouTube? Just do the, no, no, no, I don't, I'm not on, hey, just do, you're not on YouTube. No, he's not really not really what?

Nobody I'll explain to you on am ready. You're dealing with dinosaurs Anthony get a pivot but you know the whole point is what do we want people to watch me on if you're selling ad space on a radio station You don't want to draw people to you to yeah, you guys are you guys are in 2029 I'm in I'm still dealing with 1985 by the way That's the problem if you. If I give you feedback. I know, but I'm not. I don't know. Anthony, I would love to have five million on.

Anthony, we may not agree on a lot. Okay. We may not agree on a lot. And your choice of lifestyle is different than the way I live. But if I look at two things. Let's let's let's let's let's let's let's let's let's let's let's let's let's let's let's let's let's let's let's let's let's let's let's let's let's let's let's let's let's let's let's let's let's let's let's let's let's let's let's let's let's let's let's let's let's let's let's let's let's let's let's let's let's let's let's let's let's let's let's let's let's let's let's let's let's let's let's let's let's let's let's let's let's let's let's let's let's let's let's let's let's let's let's let's let's let's let's let's let's let's let's let's let's let's let's let's let's let's let's let's let's let's let's let's let's let's let's let's let's let's let's let's let's let's let's let's let's let's let's let's let's let's let's let's let's let's let's let's let's let's let's let's let's let's let's let's let's let's let's let's let's let's let's let's let's let's let's let's let's let's let's let's let's let's let's let's let's let's let's let's let's let's let's let's let's let, let's, let's, I consider that a shot. I mean, don't, don't, I'm just, I'm just, I don't, I don't, any of us should be judged, any of us should be judged that way. I haven't looked at your phone.

I'm not like whatever it is. I have come clean, I have come clean about, about a private thing you know about me that is embarrassing. You're not going to let me finish my point. All right. But that's the third time you've done that little kind of thing. And by the way, I don't appreciate it. I can tell you 40 times what you did.

Not very well. And the middle of me asking you a question, you interrupted me for the entire time I was trying to finish my question. You asked some long questions, you got to admit. Well, you can say that after I'm done asking a question, but here's what I was gonna say to you. Watching you take all the other stuff away, you don't belong on radio.

You do not. You do not belong on radio. You belong with a camera. You don't belong on radio. So I don't know what you're doing to show you got to listen to my show. It's not this tone. It's not like this It's very conversy like I take colors. They yell at me a little bit. It's not friendly like this one like easy No, listen, I had to take it. It was actually pegged. You got to go walk away. You guys are gonna walk away and said we know that was a jack I'm gonna walk away and say listen that was kind of I was interesting like I haven't done that a while

We're not gonna say we're gonna say this was an interesting conversation. But here's what I say, I am fascinated by, I mean, I was asking questions, not to be, not to, like, oh my God, I'm so much smarter. Anthony, I really, I wanna understand all of this. Take a guess, how many people are watching live right now? Take a guess. Just live, not total views,

cause this one get millions of views. 800, 800, I mean, is it over a thousand? Take a guess. Give me a number. Like, we're watching 9 o'clock on our third. No, you don't give them that number. Right now, 15,000 people are watching live. Yeah, but is that a lot?

But that's not a number. That is pretty standard for us. Who would be like a stream that like, Oh, Tyson must have gotten a ton, right? Well, but you're doing great. Am I doing okay? Here's the part for you to know, just in the last two hours of being alive,

this is concurrent, we're at 15,000. But last two hours, two hours, it's 47,000 people. Wow, that's... By the end of the day, it's gonna be 300,000 people that are watching us because of this. That's my entire show. Yeah, so anyways, Anthony... Welcome to the non-nature media, Anthony.

Welcome to non-establishment TV, baby. What it's worth for what it's worth, the one part I have to tell you, okay. You got more brass than a lot of these other guys that are running for office who will not come and have a conversation with podcasts like this on a long form and you did it. We don't have to agree with everything.

I can absolutely respect the fact that you're willing to come out and have this conversation. And hopefully if we ever do this again next time, we don't need to go through this type of a conversation we can talk more issues. And the next one could be a lot more friend of yours. Please, please invite me back and maybe I'll get you

do you ever do a radio show? I'll go put John. If we invited you back, would you talk? I would tell Liz, this was not not this was this this this this this you know one my son was a way at camp I I made this pack I'm going to say yes to things that other I had not been I don't know who I was dealing with so I've been saying no no no and finally said yeah and I don't have a regret doing it I am probably going to look at this and say Jesus you're not you out of

practice you're getting too hot you're you're getting it get under your skin a little bit too much et cetera et cetera it get under your skin a little bit too much, et cetera, et cetera, maybe let the thing read a little more, I would probably have notes like that, but I would say, and I would have this conversation with Nancy Pelosi all the time when I would go on Fox News, she would say, why do you go on there? You're just giving oxygen to the enemy, and I'm saying they're not the enemy, they're the opposition, and who knows who among their troops might someday be fighting for us, and if I assume that I'm gonna get 1% of that crowd,

that's thousand to thousands of people. I actually respect that. I have no idea how much I respect that. And unfortunately, the part about like the criticism we get, okay, let me tell you what criticism I got yesterday when we posted that you're gonna be on. You, if you could just see my phone on who texted me last night on how annoyed they were with us to have you on.

You would you would you would be blown away who texted saying I can't believe that guys gonna be on vice versa. If we have somebody from the other side saying I can't believe it's having them on but the part that we have everybody feels comfortable coming here having a conversation with us and I can't wait to talk to coma this Saturday and also so for everybody that's watching a couple things we're gonna put the link to his radio show below. It's also the Twitter account. We'll put both of them as well. So people can go follow and watch what he's got going on. Tonight, we have another live podcast here. Holy moly, this is a crazy day. What time is a podcast tonight, by the way?

7 p.m. 7 to 9 p.m. tonight with 200 people in attendance, and then we'll go to the cigar lounge afterwards. Dave Smith will be here. We have a video we're going to be releasing tonight that a four-star general talks about the North Stream pipeline on what happened with it, that a, how do I define this properly? And insider send this video to us, and we may drop that video tonight

on what he thinks was behind North Stream. And let me tell you, I think a lot of people are gonna lose their mind. So we'll be on again tonight. And aside from that, some of you guys that keep asking, Pat, I wanna go to the next one. Vivek's town hall is gonna be August 4th here. If you wanna get a ticket there,

text the word 3103, text the word podcast to 3103401132, again, text the word podcast to 3103401132, cannot wait to see you guys here. We've got a few more tickets on the general and I think some premium seats available for the town hall. Take care everybody, Anthony, once again, thanks for coming up. Thank you, sir. Take care everyone, bye, bye, bye, bye.

seats available for the town hall. Take everybody, Anthony, once again, thanks for coming up. Thank you, sir. Take care everyone. Bye-bye, bye-bye.