PBD Podcast - AOC at the Met Gala | PBD Podcast | EP 87

Episode Date: September 14, 2021

In episode 87 of The PBD Podcast, Patrick Bet-David sits down with Adam Sosnick and Gerard Michaels to talk about topics such as AOC at the Met Gala, Amazon paying college tuition for its employees, C...onor McGregor & Machine Gun Kelly's altercation, and much more. Watch the full podcast: https://youtu.be/6I1Q55_a5s0 --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/pbdpodcast/support

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Which country produces the most beautiful women? It's a matter of global importance. What I think is, I think the most beautiful women are produced on the report Texas. But outside of that, if you want to have the discussion we can. That's where your wife is from. That's where your wife is from. That's where your wife is from.
Starting point is 00:00:14 The report high school, yes. So what do you think? I got to tell you, man, I think it's absolutely neck and neck between Venezuela and Colombia, man. And you know what? I think thanks to the wonders of Colombia. Venezuela and Colombia. I think thanks to the wonders of common as well on Columbia I think thanks to the wonders of communism Columbia might have pulled ahead in the last ten years because you know Lee Eaton dogs a bad look now here's a thing both of you guys have some experience
Starting point is 00:00:35 you played baseball and you traveled which means you were I can already see you being like you know a guy that got around and Adam you know your mom and I had a great conversation yesterday Kai you know she was and Adam, you know, your mom and I had a great conversation yesterday. Kay, you know, she was encouraging me to, you know, like have some positive influence on you. I promise, try to be high and close doors. You're an incredible rabbi. You just don't want to tell her you're a rabbi.
Starting point is 00:00:55 What do you think, most beautiful woman in the world? Oh, I think there's two ways we can go with this. Here we go. By the way, everybody's listening. What do you think? I'm actually curious. We're looking at the comments. I think, yeah, I would love to hear the comments. Number one. Somebody said a Syrian. That's actually not better Syrians make beautiful
Starting point is 00:01:08 There's two ways to look at this. I think yeah, I'm not gonna give it the outside beauty inner beauty I'm just gonna give you were to you know there is no such thing as inner beauty because there wasn't beauty There was an outside beauty when you shit like that you're looking for a wife. So wait He's transitioning I respect it. Go for inner beauty With your small head. You're hard. You just go with your eyes only. Eyes only. And maybe you're right with Columbia.
Starting point is 00:01:33 We are about to go in the right direction. And we should. But go ahead. I'm a huge fan of banter. Okay. Banter. So I like American women. I like banter. Like we're talking about subject ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding. We got it. I've been out with Adam a talking about subject ding ding ding ding. We got it
Starting point is 00:01:45 I've been out without them a bunch and it's incredible that the women who must have the most incredible banter all are about five foot six and a hundred and fifteen pounds The amount of bad maybe that's why you're turning around though I'm telling you to turn out to no I don't get it I love bitter that's why I'm in love maybe that's why you've only seen me out them once twice because the banter wasn't that good and we had to move on
Starting point is 00:02:18 but I've heard you're saying American I love American. Well what prompted this is my buddy Jason Fox was here over the weekend was telling me that the guy by the way good dude man yeah the best place he'd ever been in the world he said was Croatia and that was the second time I'd ever heard that my buddy christian who's Albanian how many countries have you been to how many countries have you been to I've been to I've been to Canada Mexico
Starting point is 00:02:39 you know you've never been nowhere if you start off with I've been to Canada like I've only been I've only been oh Columbia I've been it and that's it so I've only been, I've only, oh, Columbia, I've been, and that's it. So I've only been in North America, Central America, and the Caribbean and the north of South America. So I've not left the Western hemisphere. No, I'd love to go to Europe last year, but I got, two years ago, but I got,
Starting point is 00:02:58 I got, I got, I got, I had other plans on future. So usually, we Irish women are not in your top. So dude, should you be sure, the Irish are known for being tough and being smart and being funny and good at banter. I got Argentina, Colombia, Philippines, Sweden or Lebanon. Russia, Russia, you gotta make an argument for Russia. Albania, Assyrians, Brazil, Chicago, another Assyrian.
Starting point is 00:03:23 Chicago, actually low-key beautiful women. By the way, three people said Assyrian. So at this point, the poll another is Syrian. Chicago actually low-key beautiful women. By the way, three people said is Syrian. So at this point, the poll is over. So it's that stuff. I think the most beautiful women are, let me do the math here. 25% is Syrian, 25% Armenian, father born and raised in Iran,
Starting point is 00:03:39 mom, white from Texas, 80% British, I think that's a best combination. Her name is Senna. I was gonna say, yeah, it sounds a lot like Senna. Senna Brooklyn. She is turning into a beautiful girl. Senna has some personality, man. She does.
Starting point is 00:03:53 You're Facebook close to her last. So what car you wanna buy? She's sass. I wanna Ferrari. What color? Pink. So you wanna buy pink? Rainbow.
Starting point is 00:04:03 So who's gonna buy it for you? You. Why? I don't have any money. So cute. Save that money. Anyway. You said Russian by the way. I know we're gonna move on.
Starting point is 00:04:12 I feel like Russian, you're either like a 5'11 supermodel or you're like a babushka grandma that don't speak the gupta suede. But they're great at banter. So who cares? For you. Because you like banter. You give me the 5'11 supermodel that's got at banter. So who cares? For you, because you like banter. You give me the five or eleven zoom out of that. That's got good banter.
Starting point is 00:04:27 By the way, if you get the five or eleven supermodel who's strong that can put you in your place, it may be an interesting relationship right there. All of a sudden you see, can you imagine Adam starts dating a girl. Every time you go out, Adam's very quiet. You go to dinner. Adam's not saying anything.
Starting point is 00:04:41 She says say something, say something. Adam's just quiet. Hi, how are you dear can I get you something I can see that happened I told you not to talk yeah yeah well I tell you so boy you you've been to a lot of different countries yeah I have been to how many 20 plus I don't know I've been all over Europe I've been Australia I've been to South America yeah I've been all over United States beauty not not for relationship just pure looks what was what was the most beautiful when you saw where?
Starting point is 00:05:06 Just on look I would say I was in Mekino's Greece and that's pretty ridiculous over there Really Greece yeah, I think Croatia is at the top of the I got an idea Gerard and I hit the scene we go all over Europe. We do some man on the Drone Zack and there as well you guys go do some anti-communist best dress, all of them. All of them are stressful. I think you need to podcast this. Be some massage, just to make sure it's what you do.
Starting point is 00:05:31 I worry about you guys. Kai's gonna be very upset if we don't talk about the, I will say this, the content of the 48. I've been to 43, it was content out the 48. You've been to 43 content. Yeah, no, no, no, 43. I'm the content of the, I've been to 43 content and three planets,, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no Well, it depends on your test taste. South Florida's legit. It can compete. We're doing okay down here.
Starting point is 00:06:05 I think you are. Everyone up in your life who's watching this, you wife comes to Chicago. Stay in New York. You want no part of this. Stay in New York. Charles Barkley would say the best looking woman are out of San Antonio. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha You said I never like playing at the spurs because I can never party afterwards And he but he goes a little bit more detail if you want to find out if I can do your great bander
Starting point is 00:06:27 Just on you what's this color behind me? I've never seen this color. Is that a red light behind me? Go on that again. I've never seen that red light legit. Is that like a message? Are you sending a message that we're more red than blue? This is something we get a blue light over here already. Okay, alright, so we got a lot of stories to cover We got a lot of stories to cover One We got a lot of stories to cover. One foul she said he thinks it's a good idea to have airlines mandate vaccination cards. The passport, maybe we can talk. I know you got some stuff to say about that. Maybe we'll talk about that. Children speak to voice speakers more than their grandparents. That's problematic. Billionaire entrepreneur Mark Lauer wants to build a nation's first woke city.
Starting point is 00:07:05 First woke city. I'm curious to know what that looks like. I already bought a ticket. I'm sure you have. By the way, they have an invitation. They have an invitation for you. Amazon offers to pay college fees of 750,000 frontline US workers. Okay, I have an idea what would be better of them doing that.
Starting point is 00:07:19 Maybe a better idea for them. The working, foreign Afghanistan. Ready? Cost Americans, taxpayers. $300 million a day for 20 years. Can you imagine like that? Number, you just kind of say it. $300 million a day for 20 years
Starting point is 00:07:37 with big bills yet to come. College students were chanting a beautiful chant for Joe Biden over the weekend. So that tells you the audience of college football. What was a chant by the way? It was a love Joe Biden Love Joe Biden except with a different forward or after I never said good luck Joe Biden I like your attitude. I like your attitude. I like your attitude. Okay. Right now, if you're in Portland,
Starting point is 00:08:08 one high recommendation for you guys, if something happens to you, do not call 911 because apparently it's taken five minutes for cops to show up in Portland. And it staff shortages. We'll talk about that as well. Maybe this defunded police idea wasn't working. Janet Yellen said to us,
Starting point is 00:08:21 we don't have to worry about any kind of debt or inflation or anything. However, she warns of a possible October default I'm working Janet Yellen said to us we don't have to worry about any kind of debt or inflation or anything however She warns of a possible October default on US debt swollen by the pandemic what happened in six months? What happened in six months? New York hospital to pause delivering babies after workers quit over vaccine Mandate okay Joe mentioned again. He ought to run for office man I don't think he's gonna do it, but I think if he ran for office, I think he ought to I think he already holds office
Starting point is 00:08:48 you mean I'm sorry, yeah to run for presidents yes so you ought to run for president because I think he'd be surprised on how many people he'd get I mean if the options are slim he may get a lot of people down There's something to be said about not being an extremist on one side or the other and just kind of playing it safe in the end Well listen when we were having dinner with Matt Walton, he said Joe mentions pretty much a Republican. I don't know if you remember that.
Starting point is 00:09:10 He said, and you also said that as well a little bit. You said, Joe, I'm a huge fan of Joe. Imagine that's kind of where I am politically. I'm a closet Republican, but it is what it is. So you got so Joe mentioned said there's no way to pass a three and a half million out of a budget by September 27th. Reformed California Chairman on recall election. Obviously, the recall is, I I think today with Larry Elder, everybody in California. I know you've got some very strong feelings on that. We've had meet Kevin and only that major Williams on. It's a big deal. Two other points we
Starting point is 00:09:35 got. The Texas abortion law creates a kind of bounty hunter. We'll talk about what the Texas abortion law because a lot of people are given their opinions on the last but not least we had a pure smoking commented on this. We have the article on it. He says it made me sick to watch a once male special forces combat veteran beat up a woman on TV it's time to stop this trans sport insanity before women start being killed and then bunch of the things i don't have recovered but you're you're your friend connoble grager did another magreger ask thing let's talk about that what do you think about that so you what do you know about what happened? I mean, I'll read what the story tells us. There's multiple different versions of it on page three
Starting point is 00:10:11 If you go to it. So they're at the show Right, the music of MTV Music Awards Conor McGregor reportedly tried to fight machine gun Kelly Because M.G.K. didn't want to take a picture with them We know why Conor is angry at Machine Gun Kelly. On Sunday videos of Connor McGregor trying to attack the rapper at the VMA surface on the internet, sources connected to the situation pay that Connor as M.G.K. for photo, which Kelly denied,
Starting point is 00:10:34 and that apparently escalated into him pushing Connor, who stumbled back and spilled his drink when he collected himself and whatever was left of his drink Connor, allegedly chucked the drink at Kelly, as well as Megan who was nearby, their prospective teams broke up, broke it up before things got ugly, and Connor was given his walking cane back,
Starting point is 00:10:50 something that had fallen to the ground during this scuffle. Thank God he got his cane back. But, tell me, what do you think about what happened? I think just real quick, this guy, machine gun Kelly is dating Megan Fox. Who was better than him? By the way, what country is she from? America, damn it. America. machine gun Kelly is dating Megan Fox. He is. As better than that. By the way, what country is she from?
Starting point is 00:11:06 America. America. Dicker Russian bullshitting. No one. Megan Fox. No one. For phenomenal banter. Just so you know, for the moment, I'm telling you again, from the moment her and Shia
Starting point is 00:11:17 LeBuff were not in, Transformers I was done. Yeah. I went on strike. I said I'm done. People don't know this, but in your top five actors of all time shy of the buff is in it Not top five, but I'm a die-hards and look listen. I'm also die-hard Edward Norton fed I mean think these two guys are legit, but I'm also I like a Andy Garcia. I like some strange actors I like John Burnthal. I think John is a piece of an actor, but yeah, I would say shy is up there for me
Starting point is 00:11:39 But go ahead. So what do you think about it? I mean, all right? So it was the MTV music words By the way, do you even watch that anymore? No. I don't watch it. The MTV music and the awards anymore. Stop it. You were taking notes on your iPad. I do watch the clips of it afterwards to see what's going on. I think Bieber won artists of the year.
Starting point is 00:11:54 I don't watch it, but I know Bieber won. Here we go. I'm a Bieber fan. I'm a Bieber fan. Like you're a shy LaBuff fan. But I also like Bieber. I think Bieber's a stud. Name three songs.
Starting point is 00:12:03 A Bieber? Yeah. I would have to if you play my probably can name you 40 songs. I don't know a stud. Well, it's name three songs. A Bieber. Yeah, I would have to if you play my product, I can name you 40 songs. I don't know the name of the songs. Okay, but I like the one song he did lately. Desperate about a year ago when he's sitting there by himself singing about being lonely as a kid performing. Nobody was on the back with him. That messaging. I think it was called lonely, no lonely. It could have been great. There's two versions of the video fantastic. Is it too late to say, I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:12:25 No, I don't think it is. Okay. I don't think it is. All right. What do you mean? These are B-A-R songs. Anyway. B-A-R, B-A-R, B-A-R, B-A-R, B-A-R, B-A-R, B-A-R. Anyway, but anyway, I think we're gonna get
Starting point is 00:12:35 to the bottom of this. The Connor was there to, I think, introduce the song of the year anyway. He was there to introduce one of the categories, but he showed up. And I think the story here isn't Machine Gun Kelly. The only reason the Machine Gun Kelly is relevant, in my opinion, is because he's dating Megan Fox.
Starting point is 00:12:52 If he was just some dude that was just this rapper, I think he'd be irrelevant. That's not true though, to do that. My buddy Valentine, the dude took, he went from being a rapper with B for Eminem to turning into the lead singer of some 41 and nobody even blinked in high. Like he's actually pretty out-cat. The fact that he has B for Eminem is turning into the lead singer of some 41 and nobody even blinked an eye like he's actually pretty fat that he has beef with Eminem it is
Starting point is 00:13:08 laughable to me is nowhere close to being where the rap god love about it this is but that one song he put was pretty legit if the lyrics you put out that was actually not bad machine gun Kelly yes never heard it I'm not a fan I don't know it anyway I thought it pretty. I think I think the story here is from Croatia just Okay, make sense. I have no clue. He's going to be good. No, I think he's from definitely America But it is impressive how Megan Kelly hype them up. She calls on the most beautiful boy And the most talented that I say Megan Kelly. I do love Megan Kelly Megan Fox by the way machine gun Kelly I can just come out Here's the story guys. What's your point? I think Connor is having a meltdown. I think Connor
Starting point is 00:13:50 He's the wind he'd be in a win He saw if he could beat this skinny bean pole rapper. I think Connor is his best days are behind him He's made his money you interviewed Dustin Porier and he said quote unquote It's kind of hard to get up and put in the work and run your miles When you're sleeping in satin sheets something like that. Yeah, so I think Conor's made his money. He's made his name He's turning into more of a celebrity influencer He's walking around with a cane. Well his foot is falling off I don't know if he's ever gonna fight at the level that he was and this is sort of like a PR stunt to keep his name in the news
Starting point is 00:14:23 That's my two cents. Yeah, I haven't fought in five years, but even five years ago, guys I was fighting with that are really, really big names in the UFC. Guys I was in like fight camps for and stuff like that. They would tell me, like, dude, never been on the Gregor ever again. Like he parties too hard, he goes way, way too far. I was whiskey, bro, you know about that.
Starting point is 00:14:43 Yeah, yeah, basically blends in proper 12. Who, the, but as a guy who drank way too much whiskey and did too many dumb things himself, until you get to a certain age where, you know, look, the problem when you're a good fighter and the problem when you're a bigger dude, even though Connor's not, but he's very good fighter and he's very tough
Starting point is 00:15:02 and you're a boozer and you're doing whatever comes with the booze, you're a tornado of destruction could stop you see one of the big problems one of the reasons I don't drink hard alcohol anymore It's because nobody can stop me and I and I was good at drinking so I wouldn't blackout I wouldn't black out so where most other people would pass out or You know somebody else would be able to grab them and throw them in a car They couldn't do that with me. I was too big and I was too violent. And I would just turn into a nonstop life destroying menace until finally it slows down.
Starting point is 00:15:32 Do you not get the irony here? You're wearing an Ireland green iron shirt over here. That's a horrible stare. That's a horrible stare. That's a horrible stare, you know what I'm gonna say? It would be like me saying a Jewish guy goes on radio every day saying, save that to money. like it's a, what's true? Pat, you've interviewed Dustin Porier, I know you're a fan of Connor, what's your take on all that?
Starting point is 00:15:53 I don't know, I think, I think, you know, if you look at it from, there's a few different ways to look at it. Number one, it's very hard. One, the hardest things to do is when you're, this happens to a lot of different people. But when you're extremely attractive and all of a sudden you get to an age and you're not getting the attention you got. Psychologically, that messes with you. Women, all the time. Oh my gosh. By the way, it's torture. It's torture. And that's why sometimes a young boy can always, you know, sometimes get together with an older woman, 45, 50 because it's a confirmation from the older woman
Starting point is 00:16:29 to say a 22 year old is still attracted to me. It's not a good church or a demi-mour. It's a form of confirmation, right? By the way, it happens to everybody. So that's one example of it. A great angle. This is paralleling Tyson pretty tightly, though, isn't it? Yeah, so then, by the way,
Starting point is 00:16:42 even Tyson talked about McGregor. Tyson talked about McGregor in the interview. Tyson's interview has got to be one of my top five interviews of all time. The guy was hilarious then by the way even Tyson talk about McGregor Tyson talk about McGregor in the interview Tyson's interview has got to be one of my top five interviews of all time the guy was hilarious by the way that the plane reference was the funniest he was this hilarious period yeah so and then so so that's the that's the woman's side right and then for athletes you go from a Lamar Odom do you kiddin you're champion you're a lacquer everybody's following you all of a Lamar Odom. Do you kid me your champion your Laker? Everybody's following you all of a sudden nobody like do you once a last time you Google Lamar Odom? Yeah, he fought Aaron Carter actually answered that question. We're gonna last time you Google Lamar Odom
Starting point is 00:17:16 He got Kardashian and he got done right so he's up and chewed up and yeah So but think about how many times that happens to athletes. It's tough. Psychologically, it's tough, right? It happens to boxers, it happens to athletes. And there's a part of it that I think it's the fault of the game, it's the fault of the sport, it's the fault of somebody not shaping the character of that becoming a reality. At dinner, we would have coupled this week, and the incredible dinner we were at, Eddie Vee's.
Starting point is 00:17:44 And their three-year-old daughter died. couple this week and the incredible dinner we were at eddy v's and uh... there uh... three-year-old uh... daughter died they're on vacation they come back they have no idea what's going on all of a sudden their three-year-old dies by the way i mean you know we're talking about it to complete a different story was any sister and i'm like
Starting point is 00:18:01 i couldn't even talk to him on the entire night like to me my stomach current i would just feel like hearing this now i couldn't even talk to him the entire night. Like to me, my stomach hurt. I was just feeling like I'm hearing this now. I don't even want to hear about it, right? But my stomach hurts. I'm like, you know, I can't even eat the food. We're ordering nice food. And it's like they're just sitting there being very, you know, Christian family, they're being strong about it.
Starting point is 00:18:15 And they're like, listen, it was very tough. But we had to overcome this and all the stuff. And they said, the one thing that kids, that parents don't do enough talking to their kids about is the idea of death. It says, because you don't even think about it. That took me immediately back when I was six years old, and we're getting bombed on, and my dad sat down and talked to me about dying.
Starting point is 00:18:34 Like, what does it matter with this guy? He said, one day I'm going to die. I said, you're not going to die. He says, one day I'm going to die. He says, you have to understand that if I die, you have to be happy. I said, why do I have to be happy? He said, because you had six years with your dad. Many people don't even have a dad under their lives.
Starting point is 00:18:48 I said, you mean to tell me when your mom dies, you're not going to cry? He says, no. I'm thankful. I've had my mom for so many years. I'm going to be happy with the smile. I said, no, you're not. He says, watch me. So his mom dies at 72 from cancer.
Starting point is 00:19:01 And I go and I see him, because you're not as a kid. I said, boy, I've been watching this man for my entire life. So I'm like, let me see. Let me see how much this guy's going to be real with me or not. And I watch him. He had a smile on his face. You're dead. And he had a smile on his face. He's like, I'm freaking my dad. He had a smile on his face. His eyes are filled up. And I'm looking at this guy. I'm like, what a freaking man you are. Right. And he's telling stories and he's saying all these great things about, you know, my mom, this, my mom, then my then my mom this Like you got a freaking appreciate this guy. So there is lessons in Somebody like a Dana sitting there having the serious Conver I think the sports game got to do that
Starting point is 00:19:34 I think somebody's got to do that with women with celebrities to say Conner Here's where you are. Let me just kind of paint this picture for you and you tell me what you want to do You've lost three matches alone in a row, okay? You're now getting unnecessary attention. You don't need the last time you got unnecessary attention like this is when you threw that What you call it in the bus right it wasn't a cherry was it? What was it? It was the the bench and he did that poor guy's career Yeah, I mean it was like yeah, what are you doing it for is it attention? What do you do and then you go and you come up with your drink and you punch the guy into face out of bar.
Starting point is 00:20:07 Old dude. And then later on, you buy that bar and they'll all do, didn't even flinch by the way. He just continued, right? So some of these meltdowns, someone has to have a serious conversation. Now, here's the other part. If he doesn't have, if he doesn't receive it,
Starting point is 00:20:20 the onus is all on who? On the individual. And then you gotta say, look, we have the conversation. He still chooses to live this life. But I think Conor has an opportunity right now, because he's so big right now with his name. If he figured out a way to transition into another field, if he was able to do it, look at Daniel Cormier.
Starting point is 00:20:38 If he was able to do it, the world forgets about all the law. Look at how many times Cormier lost that yet. Cormier is done, he's a guy that's going to get that respect. He's just got a figure right away to go there. But I don't think the kind of attention that he was getting for that five-year period, seven-year period. I don't think that's coming in time. You brought up a lot of amazing points, Pat. You know, everything with your dad is incredible. It's emotional as well. Something to be said about Conner's, when you're winning, you can kind of get away with some of the antics, right?
Starting point is 00:21:06 Some of it is justifiable, it's almost marketing PR, but when you're losing, it just seems sad. Desperate, yeah. And desperate. Well, there's two parts of that, man. Well, the first part is, I've talked to you about this, I have a theory, and I think guys do self-destructive things in these positions, because it's easier
Starting point is 00:21:24 for someone like Connor, a high level athlete, a high level performer to say, oh man, if I only didn't drink or oh man, if I only didn't do this or do that, I could have gotten my comeback. And that's, and they're looking for, excuse me. Yeah, they're giving them something up. There's a lot of guys I played with man,
Starting point is 00:21:38 there's a lot of dudes that I feel like they did these things because it's easier to be seen as still having that potential. As potentially, I still could have done it if only I could have overcome these demons as opposed to being like, man, I just don't have it anymore. Well, man, I'm just not good enough. And I think that that's part of this. That's mental health.
Starting point is 00:21:56 This is depression manifesting. Yeah, I don't disagree. Here's the other part that you have to be thinking about. When everybody was trashing Tiger, I'd say, do you even know what it is to be the greatest golfer in the world and your black in a white sport and your crushing every, do you know what it feels like to be that guy?
Starting point is 00:22:12 Do you know what it is to be the guy that from two years old? He was a guy that was gonna be who he was gonna become and then his dad said, and then he becomes that guy. Do you know what it is to be person? How many people in the world have that kind of story outside of LeBron James? Maybe even LeBron James's father was in an epitur. So, the point is, unless we know what it is to be person? How many people in the world have that kind of story outside of LeBron James? Maybe even LeBron James's father was in an epitur. So the point is, unless we know what it's like to be the guy
Starting point is 00:22:30 that you get on a fight, hundreds of millions of people want to find out what the hell is going to happen, no one's going to understand it. So there's a part of it that Connor is going to say, who the hell are you guys to even know what I'm going through, right? It's always easier to give advice from the outside. So that's the other thing that we need to also consider
Starting point is 00:22:45 because we have no idea what it is to be the face of UFC for five, seven years. Bill Barr with one of the greatest bits of all time about that, like, oh yeah, if you were a tiger's position, you would have found everything. Yeah. Like, like, you've got a bus full of Swedish
Starting point is 00:23:00 Norwegian supermodels to help that you down the Mercury Tracer. To use your point right there. There's something to be said about being married in that position versus being single in that position. Yeah. I feel like for Connor being married is probably a blessing for him, stability, family, to be single, to be this wild crazy fighter who likes to drink.
Starting point is 00:23:20 That can marriage only matters very clearly. I feel like he got fired up. By the way, I tell you what, he may be doing stuff. I used to was married too, but here's a difference, he may be doing stuff behind closures. I don't know, I don't speculate
Starting point is 00:23:32 because that's not my world, I'm not in it and people can say whatever they want to say, they can make it up about anybody. We gotta give him credit, his wife is everywhere with him. No matter where he goes, she's right next to him. So there is a part of it where it's kinda like, look, salute, he puts the pictures,
Starting point is 00:23:45 you know, he puts stuff from his family, it's not like he's hiding it. Some guys don't want to show that, he's kind of doing his part. So who knows, we'll see what's gonna happen. But is she being that stabilizing force, or is this a bounty in cloud situation? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:23:56 You know, we'll never know that. I will tell you this. Here's what I'm hoping. I am hoping he makes a comeback, he has a big victory, and then he says, here's what I'm doing, but I don't see that happening because today's model of boxing. He's gonna go probably fight Jake because he's gonna make 30 million bucks on it. He's gonna go fight Logan 50 million dollars. I want him in the booth so bad. I want Connolly McGregor sitting next to Joe Rogan
Starting point is 00:24:17 I want Connolly McGregor and Snoop in the booth. I would watch that. I would yeah, that would be a show. Okay, you guys only spent 30 minutes on counter Just I was I was not even supposed to restore it. I do appreciate that we didn't just discuss the the BS with machine gun Kelly We actually went deep on it. Yeah, that's a good dialogue. That's by the way. Did you see a OC goes to a dinner? That's 30 to 35,000 dollars ahead to be there and then she wears a dress $45,000 ahead to be there and then she wears a dress. She wears a dress saying tax the rich after partying with the rich. She wears this dress that's a thousand bucks hanging out with millionaires and billionaires and she sports this dress saying tax the rich and people go bonkers over it, what a what a noble human being she is. Is it a hypocrisy? What is the word for this? Stupidity. No, first of all, I will tell you what it is.
Starting point is 00:25:11 Number one is genius marketing. Okay. For her. For her. I actually agree. I think it's genius marketing. She's a genius when it comes onto marketing. I don't care what anybody says. They're pissed off because she comes up with these ideas. And the area of marketing, you couldn't have thought about it.
Starting point is 00:25:26 You couldn't have had a better person, a better marketer for the message of socialism. You couldn't have a better marketer. A rich girl who chose to vacation in poverty and gives a story about, I couldn't pay my bills while because I was bartending in New York. First of all, anybody knows anybody who bartends in New York, they make cake. All right, that's number one. Number two She has to spend it all on rent. So it's not like they're not worth is that rent and other things, but the She couldn't afford right to live her life because this is the part of the story that nobody ever talks about
Starting point is 00:25:58 She was spending all day Volunteering on the Bernie Sanders campaign She was she was an unpaid employee for Bernie Sanders. So she's telling capitalism is the worst. I had to work and I was, I was overqualified and underpaid because Bernie Sanders didn't pay her well enough. She wants to talk like she's Jenny from the block. She's Jenny from Westchester. She went to BU, dude, stop it with we got as a as a people as a globe We have to be able to look at something and say this is basura. This is pure trash Already tax the rich 3500 dollar she spent five thousand thirty five thousand
Starting point is 00:26:37 Thirty five thousand dollars who 75 per table. Let me say this again. Yeah, it's thirty five thousand dollars a person Thirty to thirty five thousand each table with a set of five but people that are reaching me i'm not rich i'm just i'm just i'm don't be don't be don't be full by the rocks that i got i'm just a c from here here's the question she shows up there's you know probably a couple thousand people here what's the what's the storyline when she shows up are people shaking her hand are they giving her a hug every kiss is that is she a is she a rock star there What's the story line when she shows up? Are people shaking her hand? Are they giving her a hug?
Starting point is 00:27:05 Are they kissing? Is she a rock star there? Are they the hater? She's sitting in the corner? Are people being like, we love you? Like, what's the scenario there? I think those who are holding up to messaging Democrats, they have to agree with her.
Starting point is 00:27:21 What did they like it or not? Because they're worried about being canceled. Oh my God, you're so brave. The fear of being canceled. Because here's how you gotta do it. So what's more expensive? 50% taxes or losing those three movies? What's more expensive?
Starting point is 00:27:38 Yeah, the movie. Yeah, who gives a shit about 50% tax? I can't lose that movie at $20 million a pop. $10 million a pop. So I'm like, listen, you're amazing. You're amazing, but it's a form of control. It is a form of cancel culture, the fear in actors, Hollywood.
Starting point is 00:27:51 They're so worried about it. Very few of them are willing to come out and say, this woman's lost her freaking mind because if they do that, it can potentially lose the next job that's coming out in Hollywood. Everyone in Hollywood's afraid right now, except for some of the guys that are stepping away, saying, look, we don't give a show what you're gonna be doing.
Starting point is 00:28:07 We're gonna do our own thing, we don't need you guys anymore. We're gonna do our own thing. Yeah, I think there's a cool going on in Hollywood as well, low key. You've got Bernie Sanders. All right, Bernie Sanders, not one, not two, but three houses, make some million dollars. He donates less than 1% of that. Less than 1% he donates.
Starting point is 00:28:24 When he, somebody, the one journalist left in America Asked some of questions like so what would you say to people who are are you know claiming hypocrisy with your crusade against the rich when you are in fact rich Oh They want to be rich they should have they should have wrote a book like okay, that's that's the answer How much money is she made off this tax to rich merch? She is the most capitalist in DC. She's got an entire tax. This is a great marketer. And I'm gonna tell you what's going on here.
Starting point is 00:28:50 She'll make a hell of a CMO. This is the truth, hell of a CMO. You see this right now? By the way, we'd hire her right now. If she could set aside her socialistic tendencies, we'd hire her right now. You see this right here? This is the crux of all the issues, gentlemen.
Starting point is 00:29:02 This right here? She's a Latina from the Bronx and got no booty. That is what's happening here. Right when she needs to, she needs to read about the trip, canceled. She needs to read the tribute. She saw, look, if anybody's ever been in a BX, anybody's ever been uptown, you get it.
Starting point is 00:29:16 You just got personal, bro. You got it, Dominican or a Puerto Riga, they walk in hips first everywhere they go. She got upset. She's mad. She's mad. She's mad. This is why she wants to. There's a level above that.
Starting point is 00:29:28 She knew you don't talk about. He went there. He wants to read the story. He's the re-disjointed. He went there. He went there. You know, it's funny. You bring up the Bernie Sanders thing
Starting point is 00:29:36 and I'm not a fan of Bernie. But I will say this, if you're freaking 80 years old and you've been making, I don't know, what do you get paid, 180 grand a year? And you don't have any money in a house? He's never had a real job. But he's only ever worked off of the government goal, regardless, that's his job.
Starting point is 00:29:53 He's a parasite. Whatever he is, the point is this, if you're 80 years old and you're still broke, that's probably a bigger problem. At least he's got his brother. He's not, that's my point. He's like, to have a house and to be a millionaire at age 80 is not that big of an accomplishment
Starting point is 00:30:07 Congratulations, you've saved 10% of your income. I tell you this you get your benefits and Depends you set that big of a deal she has a 10 to 20% chance of being a president in the next 20 years remember when I said this What are the chances that she wins Gerard's vote? Dude the green new deal, it's gonna pass. Like she's winning. She's got 10 to 20% of me in front of them. Let them eat brunch. She doesn't need our vote.
Starting point is 00:30:30 By the time she becomes a guy. Let them eat brunch. Let them eat brunch, bro. She's a French Revolutions. AOC Internet. I see, I like that parallelogram you did right there. It's a parallel. Yeah, so let's go to this Mark Lower story.
Starting point is 00:30:43 Billionaire entrepreneur Mark Lower wants to build a nation's first woke city. I actually wanna know what this looks like. So can you actually pull up the article to see if they show any images on there? It's about 60 years to live. Former Walmart executive, any commerce billionaire Mark Lower
Starting point is 00:30:55 wants to build a world's first woke city from scratch. Somewhere in the US, we are going to be the most open, the most fair and the most inclusive city in the world, Lord said in a promotional video, the city is meant to take on what Lord's view on the United States and the most inclusive city in the world, Lord said in a promotional video, the city is meant to take on what Lord's view on the United States, the biggest challenge, the rapidly grown wealth gap,
Starting point is 00:31:10 which he said is going to bring down America, the initial phase of the project targeted for completion by 2030, would be built to accommodate 50,000 residents across 1500 acres at a cost of $25 billion. Over 40 years, the city will eventually require $400 billion of funding and funding and grow to a house as many as 5 million people across 150,000 acres.
Starting point is 00:31:32 If it's so effective, why do you need to be funded? Why do you need to be funded to build this woke city? That's what it's gonna look like, by the way. Take a look at that. Wow. What a beautiful woke city that is that needs funding from other taxpayers who are not woke Oh, wow, so the only way a woke city model works that it's funded by people who are not woke
Starting point is 00:31:49 I love when the the 17 year old communist always talks about how the only reason why Cuba was unsuccessful It's because of the evil embargoes from the United States and like whoa whoa this this this communist utopia needed their capitalist neighbor What would you not making the argument you think you're making here, man? I was like, whoa, whoa, whoa, this, this, this communist utopia needed their capitalist neighbor. What, you, not making the argument you think you're making, man. And they said what state this would be in? I would imagine Oregon next to Portland. Kai, can you actually go to the article to see where they're thinking about city wise? As long as it's not in Florida and Texas, if we're, we should be fine.
Starting point is 00:32:19 We just, there's one more good. So go, I'm, I'm looking to see. It's called Talosa. Is that a play on Tesla? Called Talosa. Talosa. From the ancient Greek word, Talos, meaning high purpose, the mission of Talosa is to create more equitable,
Starting point is 00:32:36 sustainable future. That's our north star. We're going to be the most open. OK, I read that. Equatism, equatism, equatism, resonance and turn on their own homes on the land and are enriched as home value increases according to the project site. And after a period of hyper growth, residents can buy the land from the community endowment.
Starting point is 00:32:55 Okay, if you went into the desert where the land was, okay, we don't know. Well, I folks, if you're listening to this, anybody planning on going to this woke city? It sounds like Burning Man. It's what it sounds like. What it sounds like is you're gonna get a mortgage from the city instead of a bank. It sounds exactly like what we have now, except your mortgages to the city instead of the bank.
Starting point is 00:33:15 These guys have lost their mind, by the way, to do some like this. By the way, here's what I'm willing to do. Why don't we do this? See, hold on real quick, Pat. You see that stuff I don't mind. Like when they start talking about New York City, you know, every rooftop in New York City should be solar or you should have plants on it I'm totally okay, but there's only one problem to have with this. There's only one problem to have with this
Starting point is 00:33:33 I actually say go do it Matter of fact here's what I think we ought to do you go do yours. Let us go build our own city Let us build our own city you go build your own city. Let us build our own city. You go build your own. Let's make it a project Let us go 20 years sure we build our own city. Give us 1500 acres you get 1500 acres We get 1500 acres. We get 49 states you guys get California if communism works in 20 years I'm actually being dead serious if we got 1500 acres We got our own land that we would build they get their own 1500 acres I couldn't agree with you. Here's the difference. Here's the difference. There's only one caveat here one caveat
Starting point is 00:34:10 There can be zero funding from the government zero funding from taxpayers you do your woke city We do all our own free thinker city. Let's see 20 years. What happens? Okay? Let's just see 20 years what happens Neither can we can do whatever we can do 20 years later. Let's see twenty years what happens okay let's just eat twenty years what happens neither can you we can do whatever we can do twenty years later let's see what we produce let's see what you produce city full of people that are what kind of people we produce on let's see what kind of people you're gonna produce and who ends up recruiting who from which city your woke city versus the free thinker city you know there was a movie that this reminds me of one of my favorite actors is Leonardo Caprio and I don I don't know, 10 plus years ago,
Starting point is 00:34:45 he did a movie called The Beach, which was supposed to be like this paradise. I think it took place in Thailand, I wanna say. He was Google in Paradise. And he shows up him and a friend and another girl. And they go to this city and it's this paradise and it's, you know, egalitarian and everything's beautiful and the most pristine beaches
Starting point is 00:35:06 in the world and you're hunting and killing and finding your own food and then it takes a very ugly turn. And where... Human nature kicks in. Yeah, human nature kicks in. And what's the movie where the kids, they're all on the island and they killed a fat kid because they speak with a conk, what was that movie? What was the book?
Starting point is 00:35:27 I know it's talking about Lord of the Flies. Lord of the Flies. Yeah, very Lord of the fly-esque type of situation the bottom line is it starts off in this Paradise type Story and it's looked amazing about the end of the movie everyone was freaking dead and the guys came in and killed everybody That's what's gonna happen with this world. It's very ugly. The only way communism will ever work. The only way communism will ever work, two things have to happen. They have to take over the entire world. They have to have control of all access to opportunity worldwide.
Starting point is 00:35:58 And two, they have to do set marriages from the time you're born, lottery marriages. Because everything, literally everything that we do, everything that our species has ever done has been a competition for ovaries. That is what it is. Everything from Helen of Troy. Helen of Troy decided to go with a younger, better-looking prince and the king of Macedonia said, screw that and brought a million troops over to Troy in 20 years and it's a a bad pit movie Orlando Brum.
Starting point is 00:36:27 That's a little bit of an older book but yeah so yeah I know it's a movie with Carl Troy. I get it. I know it's the only out of the out of the sea. It was bad pit. It's all my nuts. I can. But yeah. No, it was Robert Zemeckis. No, but listen literally think about it. Everything we do. Why do you work so hard? You work so hard to provide for your family.
Starting point is 00:36:46 You, why, why do you work out? I have been very in very good shape with abs. I have been very, very fat. I'm getting back down again. Do you know why? Because there's benefits to being in better shape. You know, everything that we do as men, yeah, everything. We're 90% of us.
Starting point is 00:37:02 There's 10% that don't play that game, but 90% of men, everything that we do is to attract the other species. If you aren't gonna be born six foot nine, 275 pounds, then you have to figure out a way. Warren Buffett said it best. Warren Buffett, when he talks about taxes and why he wants to give back, he's like, because I am very, very lucky that I grew up in a time
Starting point is 00:37:24 where my intellect allowed me to generate wealth because if the only way I could generate wealth was getting on a boat and storming the seas, I wanted to have been very wealthy, I had been very dead. So that's his idea of giving back, right? Everything that we do, everything capitalism really is is fair. Good for him by the way. Yeah, good for him for saying. It is a fair play system to be able to compete against them.
Starting point is 00:37:46 I'm telling you, let's other. Give us 1,500 acres. I'm telling you right now, if we got a million people in a smaller to country, test it out with us. Give us 20 or see what we do. The world would want to live in our country. Yeah, it would be called America. But here's the thing.
Starting point is 00:38:02 America is no longer America. America unfortunately is going in in a different direction the the ideas but there are a few things at the beginning as a case study that America could have done slightly different well well you mean America is no longer America you can't just say that America no no no no what are you talking America still America America is still the greatest country in the world but America is no longer the America that the America is not the America that I came to America for. Lots change last 30 years. A lot's changed last 30 years.
Starting point is 00:38:29 A lot's changed last 18 months. Yeah, a lot's changed. This is a, do you realize, I don't know if you really realize this. If I told you 10 years ago, the president's going to say, I'm sick and tired, I'm losing patience with these governors who are not mandating vaccine and who are not getting their people to get vaccinated. If I told you 10 years ago, in about 10 years in 2021, a guy is
Starting point is 00:38:57 going to come out with named Tony, who's in his 80s, who's going to say, we have to mandate vaccine. If I told you 20 years ago, Nicki Minaj decides to not go to an award ceremony because she says, a one of her friends from Trinidad, one of her relatives in Trinidad got a vaccine, and afterwards they couldn't have a kid
Starting point is 00:39:21 because something happened. And anyways, she says that she says, I'm worried, I'm doing my research, but I'm getting closer to feeling confident to take the vaccine. I'm willing to do my own research. And she decides not to go to a war ceremony because they want people to be vaccinated.
Starting point is 00:39:35 Then a lady from CNN, CNBC, I don't know which one it was. MSNBC, she says, you have a lot of followers. It's a shame, you have 22 million followers, I have two million followers. Shame on you for using Twitter to tell people that you could have done something about this. Yet people are dying. If I told you 10 years ago,
Starting point is 00:39:52 how dare you be your own person? But if I told you 10 years ago that the idea of choices is going away, would you have said that's possible? Would you have said that's gonna happen to America? The idea of having a choice is going away. Yeah, I see what you're saying right there. So, the whole point is having the option
Starting point is 00:40:07 or having the choice. Probably like the biggest man- Nobody likes mandating. Look at him, look at him, hold what to do. Let me ask you a question. But at the same time, you can't just say, I have the choice to run the red light. I do what I want.
Starting point is 00:40:16 It's like, no, there's laws. But you do have the choice. Right, exactly. I mean, then you go to jail or you go to car cars. It's in my life. I have the choice, I'll pay the ticket. So, story in my life, my license got suspended twice. So, it's my choice card, story of my life, I have the choice, I'll pay to take it. So story of my life, by license, got suspended twice, so it's my choice.
Starting point is 00:40:27 That's fine, right? I have a choice. Certain areas, yes, but for me to have to put something in my body, that's not my choice. I'm with you, I have the choice. Yes, it is not about the medicine, yes. Yes, it is, I'm talking to, I'm talking to a guy named Michael Schumer.
Starting point is 00:40:42 I don't know if you know Michael Schumer is. Michael Schumer's got, he wrote that book said, weir things, what's the book called? Something about weir things. Anyways, very interesting guy. He went from being a Christian to being an atheist, to being an agnostic, okay. The guy's got great ideas on what he talks,
Starting point is 00:40:57 but he pushes everything back. Christianity, we had a very strong debate yesterday. He says, you know, it's crazy. This is for about a year and a half. You couldn't question the fact that the COVID may have come from China until it took a comedian to go on Stephen Colbert to talk about it where the world finally said, we can talk about it. You're John. You just how is that even possible? So freedom of speech in the last 24 months, very weird, choice, very weird. These are real fundamental stuff that makes America great.
Starting point is 00:41:22 These are the things that have changed. And there's a part of it where you're worried whether people are willing to fight back or just sit there because at the end of the day, what's the first thing people think about? How did they make their decisions? They make their decisions would what? What's their best for their family themselves, right? Typically what's in it for them?
Starting point is 00:41:38 So why do you think this whole idea of tax that rich is so popular? Because 90% of the country is not rich. So they're like, I don't give a shit. shit go rich i go to tax everybody right but thirty years ago the whole idea was what man one day i'd love to be what rich yeah it was the story of the little life of the rich and famous people aspire to it was like a my let me go one day get this kind of a life so let me one day go to a party like
Starting point is 00:42:00 this to wait to be the other way around people really think three point five trillion dollars in taxes are about to be levied against the American public and it's only going to be the rich? I got to call already for more. Seriously? No, it's going to destroy everybody. A small business that's making a half a million dollars a year. You saw Kundlo talk about it. A small business that's making a half a million dollars a year. You know what it means to increase their capital gains. By the way, they're already talking about they're going to back their capital gains. By the way, they're already talking about,
Starting point is 00:42:25 they're gonna back data to yesterday. Like this morning, I was talking to Greg, they're talking about they can back they capital gains to yesterday. Top line taxes they're raising to 39.6. They're adding additional 3% for people that make over 5 million a year. And then on top of that, small business taxes,
Starting point is 00:42:43 that's also being risen, by I think it's like six and a half percent, some number, like that's six percent they're increasing it. But this is just a proposal. There's nowhere near passing. It's no longer just a proposal. Now it's getting to a point that it could be passed before 11. The only thing that's passed before 11, Joe Manchin. Joe Manchin is the only person. He's literally the only person. Again, he's literally the only person that's one. So when you ask me about America, a lot's changed a lot of the 20 people. I think that this is only gonna be the rich.
Starting point is 00:43:11 Need to look at one thing. All right, I sent you guys this last night. Biden directed the treasury, his treasury, and the IRS to start tracking all transactions for bank accounts as low as $600. Meaning if you put $100 in to Dogecoin, and it's $600. And you got $600 for crypto?
Starting point is 00:43:30 Oh no, it's for everything, but it's also tracking crypto for the first time. You put $100 into whatever, to Dogecoin. You hit the lot of, $600, you pulled it out. All right, they're gonna come at you for $150. You made $100 investment. You six X, congratulations kid, you're an 18 year old. They're gonna want $150 in taxes on that
Starting point is 00:43:48 and then back pay. Like they're coming, so people that think that this is only a soak the rich type of a situation. Bro, they're tracking you down to $600 in your life. By the way, listeners, I got a question for you. To you, define a rich. What is rich to you? I'm curious. Actually put a number for you. To you, define rich. What is rich to you? I'm curious.
Starting point is 00:44:06 Actually put a number to it. Like in how they say, this person's tall. What would you say is tall? What height would you say is tall? Depends on where you are. With plain ball, like really. What's tall in America? Well, this is the thing.
Starting point is 00:44:18 So, when Hillary Clinton was coming out with this whole, if you're a dual family in America and you make a combined $100,000, you're wealthy. This was like eight years ago. I remember being, I was playing ball in Iowa at the time and I was like, you know what? $100,000 in Iowa, you're pretty rich. $100,000 in New York, you're just paying the bill.
Starting point is 00:44:37 Who would you say is tall? What's tall on the market? I get what you're saying is that there's no exact answer. Is there, is there, is there, is there six feet is it? Six feet is it tall? And you could say six tennis tall. I think six six is tall I don't think six is tall I think six is about five ten is the average mills hide in America five nine five nine five nine okay six is tall I'd say anything over six three is tall I don't I think you're six that
Starting point is 00:44:58 what you're saying to because you are six I think six is tall but but here's the thing what is rich I'm actually curious what people say here a million dollars is rich 10 million dollars is rich 5 million dollars is rich 100 million dollars at least Daniel says 10 million in assets over a million dollars as valella valeria Over a million dollars. Okay Augustine says 5 million dollars. So you have a million dollars. What is that? That's 50,000 a year for 20 years that that's what you're but here's the point though Corey make don't make doogle says three hundred thousand dollars Ethan eat says thirty five thousand dollars riki agira says five hundred thousand dollars yeah this is the no not riki agula riki agita riki agita says
Starting point is 00:45:35 five hundred thousand dollars here's a point yeah who did help decides what's rich right okay because to me aoc when i was working at ballies aoc rich are you kidding me because at eight and when I was working at Bally's, AOC's rich. Are you kidding me? Because when I worked at Bally's, the guy I was looking up to was a guy named Robbie Solomon. He had been at Bally's for nearly 20 years. He was an area supervisor, something everyone aspired to be. Guess what he was making?
Starting point is 00:45:58 150 or after 20 years. And the pitch was, Patrick, one day you can be an area supervisor. One day you can be an area supervisor. One day you can be an area supervisor making 150 a year. And I'm sitting on like, wow, 150 freaking a year. Are you kidding me? This is insane if I make that kind of money. Because I was making 36.
Starting point is 00:46:15 150 is a lot of money. But you know what, it is when you make 150? It ain't a lot of money. So what is rich? And who defines what's rich? What a map. What a mobile scale, everybody in America is making a way. Everybody in America is rich and who defines what's rich? What a mobile scale everybody in America is everybody in America's rich, right? But the challenge with that is a politician dictates
Starting point is 00:46:31 what's rich? A politician dictates like to me, the average person, I'm sorry Nancy Pelosi is super rich, Elizabeth Warren rich. You got Bernie Sanders, super rich, you got a a O C rich, you got a lot of people that are rich. So who dictates what that number is? Is it like you know how you said your six-feetings? I think six twos tall is the same exact concept. It's what they say. No, no, no, no, it's always more than what you have. That's the problem. You just nailed it. What you did is what they do with taxes. It's always a little bit more than what you are. You naturally ask you, what's tall you said, what? Six to, I don't think six is tall.
Starting point is 00:47:10 Like what are you talking about? Cause like five, nine and a half, five, 10. And you say, what? No, I think six to six. I said, no, six is tall, right? To them, they say, no. I'll just have to, Elizabeth Warren, I'm worth five million dollars.
Starting point is 00:47:20 20 million dollars is rich. Then Nancy Pelosi makes a phone call to Elizabeth Warren. Hey, Elizabeth Warren, you're concerned 20 million, look, I'm like, I'm with 50. Why don't we do 75? 75 million dollars is rich. What the hell is rich? Anything above you is rich.
Starting point is 00:47:34 You make $2 million, $5 million is rich. So this is a bunch of bullshit with the sole concept of taxing the rich. Anything above them that they don't have to pay the price, let's tax those guys. It's a really good point. You don't want a business, you're not affected by capital gains Screw the guys that get capital gains affect those guys
Starting point is 00:47:49 You're not affected by running a business hiring people raise it in a minimum wage who gives a shit raise minimum wage It's okay. We're not affected by it Let's raise a federal minimum wage to 15 bucks in DC 15 bucks is nothing, but in Iowa 15 bucks minimum wage There's a lot of money that small business owner got crushed by wallmark that's the stuff that a lot of everything you're saying their progressives over there I call them over there for everything you're saying it can be applied to any topic the money thing abortion taxes you're talking about schools guns the bible everything as long as it's what what they're doing, and it's not me, it doesn't affect me,
Starting point is 00:48:29 like what's going on in Texas right now with abortions. Ah, no, you shouldn't be able to have abortions six weeks, it's like, well, what happened to the lady that was raped by her uncle and just incest in Texas, and she's found out, you know, two months after, she has no say in this, so it's always something that doesn't happen to you and something happens to everybody. What is that called?
Starting point is 00:48:50 What is that? What you guys are discussing is the very basis of my worldview. Why I believe? Why I believe the way I believe. And I'm a libertarian most of the way, except I don't believe in the non-aggression principle. But there is no way, there is no way
Starting point is 00:49:04 to centralize government. There is no way to centralize Government there's no way to take every single aspect of our society and filter it through the minds of these geniuses Which is what we're experiencing is is an educational narcissism the likes of which we've never seen we have an entire System of people who went to school and then they went to college and then they went to law school And then they became lawyers and then they got elected. And they're in this cycle. Like, can you pull up abortion? What percentage of abortions are rape?
Starting point is 00:49:31 So they got, they get into this cycle where everybody throughout their whole life is told them they're smart and they're special. So now they think that they're so smart and so special that no matter how many times centralization has failed, they're going to be the ones that figured it out. They're going to be the ones that get it right this time. I don't believe that they can. I think there's too many variables to play. So what I believe in is you do you and I'll do me.
Starting point is 00:49:51 Do no harm. If it doesn't affect me, you're welcome to do it. If you think that there is a real problem with income inequality in the world, help the poor. Don't steal from your neighbor and then give somebody else money, oh by the way, take a couple bucks for yourself for the effort, right? And say that you're doing something virtuous.
Starting point is 00:50:09 You're not virtuous at that point, right? So anybody who wants to do anything, I'm the biggest advocate for charity, I'm the biggest advocate for volunteerism, anything that you wanna do advocate for it, but stop short of mandating it. Stop short of making it a law libertarian that's it yeah here look look at this USA today just one percent
Starting point is 00:50:30 of women obtain an abortion because they became pregnant through rape but less than half a percent due because of incest according to the gut okay institute yet the battle over exceptions for both has garnered outside attention national abortion debate interesting so one percent is rape a half a percent is incest so in the topic of rape you kind of brought that up but in attention, national abortion debate. Interesting. So 1% is rape, I have a percentage in sets. So in the topic of rape, you kind of brought that up. But in this specific topic, with taxing the rich, in the topic of taxing the rich, and people say, oh, pag, you're rich.
Starting point is 00:50:54 I don't dispute it. I don't say I'm not rich. That's also 1%. But what I'm saying is, I don't dispute it, but here's a different part. So I'm looking at the commentary. One guy's like, hey, Pat, just say it, you're rich. I'm like, who's debating. So I'm looking at the commentary one guy's like hey, Pat just say it your rich I'm like who's who's debating that I'm not who's not debating that? Here's the debate the debate is the following
Starting point is 00:51:12 The debate is this guy came from a broken family Divorced my out was the army because I had a 1.8 GPA so hey Susguera came and recruited me and I was not a good athlete So I can't get a full-ride scholarship because I never discipline myself to play sports even though I was in shape, even I was tall. Right? So I go into the arm. I'm going to do 20 years. Then I go into 20 years. I get a phone call a guy challenges me named Kogan says, I think you can
Starting point is 00:51:38 do more when you get out of the arm. I said, dude, I'm not getting out. I'm really listening tomorrow. He calls me at midnight. Kogan, I love everything. One of my best friends in the world, sweetest guy, you've never met him. You'll meet him. You'll love this guy. So I go to sleep, try to go to sleep. I wake up in the morning, go to Lieutenant Colonel Peacocks
Starting point is 00:51:53 and I say, listen, I'm gonna get out of the army because I'm gonna go pursue my dreams. But thank you for everything you got me. Everything you got that I wanted on my order, so you got me. Till today, I'm looking for Lieutenant Colonel Peacocks. He probably ended up being a general because the guy was a G, he was a leader. I get out, I struggle. Till today, I'm looking for Lieutenant Colonel Picox. He probably ended up being a general, because the guy with a G was a leader.
Starting point is 00:52:06 I get out, I struggle. First business, fails, second business, fails. I try to personal profit portal, internet, fails. All these things I do fails. I'm working at rallies, I quit my job to try to do a business. I'm in debt, $49,000. I go back to recruiting to say, if I go back into the army, what would I get?
Starting point is 00:52:23 Negotiations come in because there's a part of it that can pay off your debt or if you sign in for six, eight years. I'm like, that's great. I'll go back into the army. Then I get this one message saying, hang in there. See what happens. Little bit longer, hanging there. Little bit longer, hanging there.
Starting point is 00:52:38 Little bit longer, I hanging there. I applied to get a job at Morgan Stanley Dean. Would I apply to a hundred different places? I was hustling to get a resume in. I eventually got the job. They offered me three jobs. I went in without a four year degree, two year degree. I hadn't taken a test for three years,
Starting point is 00:52:52 because I had four years. I've gone out, I don't know what it is to take a test for four years. My brain's not been working with tests. My brain's been working with pushups, pullups, you know, all that stuff. I go take the Series 7 exam. I'm studying day and night.
Starting point is 00:53:03 I don't know if I'm on a pass this. I'm taking a test. I press that button. You don't know what's gonna happen more again fires if you don't pass the test and when I'm pressing it I said if I fail I'm Reenlisting to the army today. I swear to God and I press boom 30 second pause. It's a six hour test dude. Yeah, I can't even tell you what my exam was in Culver City at the how old are you with this to 21 22 years old? I don't even tell you what my ex-app was in Culver City at the... How old were you at the test? To 21, 22 years old. Wow.
Starting point is 00:53:25 Uh, I take the test December 12th of01. So a couple months after 9-11. Result shows up. 78%. I said no frickin' way. 78%. Shit. I get to keep my job.
Starting point is 00:53:37 So I go back and I showed to Morgan, I said look, you got 70%, I got 78%. Damn, none of us thought you're gonna guess. I said dude, I don't think I'm gonna get 78%. I got 78, freaking percent. What political? So then, I stay, I work my ass off, my dad has a heart attack,
Starting point is 00:53:53 right at an party in five days a week. I put my head into the books, and I start reading, a girl the other night we're having dinner, and everybody's talking about their school. So I went to this school, I went to that school, and I'm just enjoying all the conversations.
Starting point is 00:54:05 It's like, oh, I got my MBA, I got my masters. I got my PhD, I'm like, freaking this is all, I'm the last one, this is sick! So what school did you go to? I didn't go to college. Now come on, Pat, what's your university? I'm telling you, I never went to college. I had a 1.8 GPA in high school.
Starting point is 00:54:19 I was like, community college wouldn't accept me. No way. You're too smart to not come on. What college, I said, I'm telling you. I read 2000 business books and I study topics. So if I chose a topic, I bought 20 books on that topic and I read just that topic, that subject for two months, then I went to the next topic and the next,
Starting point is 00:54:36 that's what I did. So some people who want to say the rich people have the special gifts and all this other stuff, I'm sorry, you just don't wanna read books, you'd much rather watch Netflix. So that argument is I believe anybody can reach their capacity. Anybody has that shot, but it takes so much freaking work, pain that not a lot of people want to go through.
Starting point is 00:54:56 Don't get me wrong, life happens to many different people. I'm not here to judge, but all I'm saying is the system of capitalism, the greatest system in the world that allows a guy like me who doesn't have nowhere in my life you can pinpoint to say this guy was going to win a lot. Not one thing you can pinpoint, nothing. Not one thing can pinpoint, that's why I believe in capitalism. Versus my family believe in communism, my family believe in socialism. Now I'm like, listen, just leave me alone, let me see what I can do.
Starting point is 00:55:23 If my market's 50, I'm good, I'm happy because I'm given my best. If my market pays 75, I'm happy because I'm like, listen, just leave me alone. Let me see what I can do. If my market's 50, I'm good. I'm happy because I'm giving my best. If my market pays 75, I'm happy because I'm given my best. But if I keep bringing value to the market place, all of a sudden an opportunity is gonna come up. And you can't predict that opportunity. All of a sudden someone's gonna say, you know what?
Starting point is 00:55:40 We can do this project. I want you to be a part of it. Here's how it's gonna work out. I'm boom, your name pops up. What the hell just happened here? Because behind closed doors rather than throwing the towel you're giving your best Capitalism works It's those who don't work that hit capitalism unfortunately. You did a video Those who don't work and don't improve
Starting point is 00:55:58 Some say I work my ass up, but they don't read books as those two criteria's You got to work. You got to improve, you got to have a decent attitude. If you have the cap is going to fit. I was just trying to drive as out last, you know. Just a first two, just a first two. The first two will land you a good job. You did a video that just came out on value-taming. It was entitled, they will find you.
Starting point is 00:56:16 Yep. Right? Yep. And I think there's some symbolism right there, or metaphor for basically what you're saying. And you saw in the comments because sometimes you'll read the comments when I'm feeling like some SNM vibes and they were like pat you're the anomaly you're lucky oh hell yeah pat you're the man great to go pat you got lucky I can't do it I've been working my
Starting point is 00:56:41 ass up fine how do you grapple with that because Well, fine. But that's not true though. But because you worked your ass off. That's not true though. Listen, nothing about what I said has to do with my last name. Nothing with what I said has to do with the school I want to. Nothing with what I said has to do with certain, you know, God giving, nothing with what I said has to do with that. Formula's very transferable to others.
Starting point is 00:57:04 I don't jump 46 inches, my name is Nala Brantjim, and I jump 46 inches, I'm not that guy, okay? I'm not a statistician, I can just go through some of the stuff and I'm Ray Dal, nah, I'm not that guy. It's called Work Your Ass Off, okay? And improve. Work Your Ass Off, I challenge anybody to do the following.
Starting point is 00:57:28 Take four subjects, sales negotiation, human nature, okay? Sales negotiation, human nature and money. Go to Amazon, I will fund this if somebody wants to do this. You do it, you come back to me, nothing changed. I'll fund the whole cost that you had here. For topics, read every book on negotiation above 400 reviews on Amazon, that's four plus star. Read any book that's above four star, 25 of them,
Starting point is 00:57:56 400 reviews on sales. Read any book on human nature, psychology, persuasion, any of that stuff, four star, like how to win, friends, all that stuff. Then read any book on money with 400 plus reviews. Read principles, negotiate any of that stuff, force the like how to win friends, you know, all that stuff, then read any book on money with 400 plus reviews, read principles, like things like that by Dalio, by Buffett, and for two years, obsess over doing that, for two years, obsess over doing that, two years
Starting point is 00:58:16 later, work your ass off and improve in a marketplace, figure out a way to improve your attitude. Sometimes half the battle is people have some shitty negative, unattractive attitudes, they're a crap magnet. Everything is shitty. Everything is complaining. Everything is somebody else's fault. Nobody is turned on by somebody that constantly blames somebody else. Nobody. When I was single, I've gone on dates and I would talk to crew. My last boss was a jerk. My last boss was an asshole. I said, add your last five bosses, which one of them were an assholes? All of them. I'm like, shit, it's not the boss's problem. It's you. It ain't no boss's problem. It's your attitude sucks. Yeah. Within an hour, you saw the attitude.
Starting point is 00:58:52 Right. You read those four topics, two years. Work your ass off, come back to me two years from now. Matter of fact, you won't even come back to me because you forgot about it because you're killing the marketplace. The market rewards people who outwork and out improve. It's proven. This doesn't mean you're gonna be a millionaire in two years. This doesn't mean you're gonna be a billionaire in two years. Here's what it does mean to. Your market value is increasing. Somebody may offer you something special next two years.
Starting point is 00:59:16 Some opportunities come up. You go into a company, how many guys you know work out a company for 50, 60, 80,000 dollars. Company starts growing. Next, you know, they're making 100, 150, 200. Next, you know, they get shares behind closed doors. They're investing money into a 401 for 50, 60, 80 thousand dollars, company starts growing, next, you know, they're making 100, 150, 200, next thing you know, they get shares behind closed doors, they're investing money into a 401k retirement, whatever, then 10 years that a company has an exit,
Starting point is 00:59:31 this guy gets a 6.8 million dollar check, how the hell did you do it? And you know how many people have done this by the way? Not 10,000, not 100,000, millions have done this. What you're describing is what education was before government got involved Yeah, so you're describing what college was for hundreds of years you're describing You know this the so chronic and and Plato a platetonian method of education This no child left behind thing is less about educating people and that was bush did this
Starting point is 01:00:01 It's less about educating people and it's do you show up on time and are you obedient? That's all we care about an education anymore We don't actually care about teaching anybody anything This is why Jeff Bezos wants all of his employees to go to college Do you show up on time are you obedient then you will graduate then you will move on to another school Where you can as long as you pay money and you show up on time and you're obedient you'll get your certificate that says I'm now allowed to earn money when you're $100,000 in debt. When you're $100,000 in debt,
Starting point is 01:00:28 it makes you a lot easier to control in that environment. You can't go out and take the risk that you took when you're $100,000 in debt. I was $49,000 in debt. Well, you're also an alpha, you're a hunter. There's a hunter-gatherer issue here. You know, and listen, we got a show coming up where there's a big conversation between a gangster
Starting point is 01:00:44 and a raccoteer. And a gangster can be a raccoteer, but a rac conversation between the difference between a gangster and a raccoteer. And a gangster can be a raccoteer, but a raccoteer can't be a gangster. That's the debate. I think hunters can be gathers. I don't know if gathers can be hunters. Then Thomas Sol, I think said it best. I don't disagree, but I will take something in that part. Here's the other part. You ready?
Starting point is 01:01:00 Okay. Do you judge somebody by their friends? I do, yeah. Okay, how do you judge a guy who's got a girl? How Do you judge somebody by their friends? I do, yeah. Okay, how do you judge a guy who's got a girl? How do you judge him? Or a gal that's got a guy? Like, let's just say girl married up or a guy married up. What do you say about that guy?
Starting point is 01:01:14 What that gal? You must be something bad about him, I don't know. You're just gonna be like, you know what? Good for him, that's what I say. Glitch it, you're a good salesperson. Good for you, whatever you did. And you keep him because you know how sometimes, you know, a woman marries up, but they can't keep the guy.
Starting point is 01:01:26 And sometimes a man marries up, but he can't keep her. The challenge is also keeping, it's not about a one-year, two-year, three-year thing. We're very quick to always blame the guy, but it's both people's jobs. Not about getting, it's about keeping. No, no, it's about keeping anybody can get, who hasn't gotten somebody,
Starting point is 01:01:39 but can you keep them, right? That's the name of the game. It's like a sign felt, anyone can take the reservation, but can you all, the reservation. For last, if you have to go that angle That's the name of the game. It's like a sign felt. Anyone can take the reservation, but can you all the reservation? For last, if you have to go that angle. So go back to it. Go back to it.
Starting point is 01:01:50 Here's what I would tell you. Go back to it. You know what I will say? This is what I will say. If you're a hunter, gather, whatever you may be, you're a hunter, you're a gatherer, whoever you may be, it's your job, if you're a gatherer, to team up with a hunter. And if you're a hunter, it's your job
Starting point is 01:02:05 to find the right supporters. I'm not sitting here saying everybody is the same. Are you kidding me? No, I'm not saying everybody's an alpha, not at all. I think there are people that are not alpha that are richer than alphas though, because there's a lot of alphas that have terrible attitude that cannot coexist or are not other people
Starting point is 01:02:21 because they keep getting in their own way. I know a lot of alphas, they keep getting in their own flip and way. Sometimes an alpha may need to step back and say, look, I get it. I can win as a one, I can win as a two, but I'm gonna be the sickest freaking alpha at number four, number six,
Starting point is 01:02:35 and I'm gonna crush it. And gradually I move up. What is the whole purpose of being number one is that other people with personalities can coexist. If your ego is so big and you can't keep people around you, that's something about you. Not you, that's something about the individual I can't keep you. So, to work on the same page, I'm not disagreeing with you,
Starting point is 01:02:52 but if you're a gatherer, guess what? If you're a person that's a supporter and you read those four books, those four topics next two years, and then you come to an outfit and you say, you know what Patrick Aghtay something was that I read a book, and here's what it said in the book. Bapapapa, I'm like,
Starting point is 01:03:06 shit, I never thought about it that way. Yeah, it's clear, let me share with you. Hey, let me tell you, I just read an article he said this about, we should do this in the company. I never thought about that before. That's also now, the alpha's like, I'm not that good without that guy. Shit, I better keep that guy around.
Starting point is 01:03:18 That guy knows what the hell he's doing. I don't know that kind of stuff. So there is a way to always provide value. And the bigger thing here is like college to your point. It's almost like an idiot test at this point. You're going to go, you're going to spend all this money when all you need is your phone and an internet and you can read everything. It goes back to that good will hunting thing where it's like, what, you know, I'm the idiot, but you're the guy spending $30,000 a year when all you needed was a library card at
Starting point is 01:03:43 the public library, right? It's the same thing now every that's all on your phone You can get it you you can pay pay a professor a thousand bucks for his entire syllabus and do the work yourself But there's not a lot of auto-diodex out there. They won't actually do the work. They won't do it So that's the part the onus I prefer to put the onus on me That's what I always like to do. I like to put the onus on me. What could have done differently? I can't change you yeah, but I put the only something. What could I have done differently? I can't change you. But I can sit there and say,
Starting point is 01:04:07 what could I have done? So this whole thing about, well, screw the rich, screw these guys, screw those guys, dude. Look, let me transition into the Amazon story because you brought it up and I think it has a lot to do what we're talking about.
Starting point is 01:04:17 Real quick, Thomas Sol, because I think you like this. And this goes to what they're saying. You're rich, you're rich, you're rich. Thomas Sol has a great quote about it. It's a simple question. It goes, what percentage of somebody else's money do you deserve?
Starting point is 01:04:28 What percentage of somebody else's earnings? Did do you deserve? Who's the actual selfish one here? You did nothing, absolutely nothing. But because this person has more than you, you think you deserve some of that? Like what type of narcissist are you? That, that, I did a video one time titled the ugliest qualities.
Starting point is 01:04:48 Okay, ugliest qualities. One of them was a person that constantly blames. Another one is a person that's constantly entitled. Another one's a person that's constantly playing in the victim game. You got the manipulator, you got the divider. These are all disgusting qualities. This got like I'm allergic to all of that stuff. When a person has those qualities,
Starting point is 01:05:06 you can't be around me for too long. You're going to hate me. If you have any of those qualities, you're not going to like being around my presence. Because I'm always going to say, what could you have done differently, but I'm like, what could I have done? Do you know what my mom and my dad did?
Starting point is 01:05:20 Did I get it? I can say the same story. He's got one of the craziest father stories. He's a millionaire. How did he do it? What could you do differently about it? Well, you know what I'm talking about. But it's not like that. You don't know what it is to be like. Okay. Then I just you're right. I don't know. I'm not even debating. You're right. I don't know what it is to be in that situation. I don't know any about that stuff. Anyways, let me go to this. What you're saying to put a bone that it's it's so freaking easy to come
Starting point is 01:05:42 up with an excuse. It's so much harder to look in the mirror. You'd be like, dude, get it to fucking gather. Like, it's on you at the end of the day, which is that. And it's even easier when you have celebrities and politicians and people that are supposed to be our leaders, being like, you know what? You're right.
Starting point is 01:05:58 It is an evil system and the rich are terrible. Oh, it's your soul. They're edifying and codifying these people who are having these moments of vulnerability. If you're going to stand up, though, people are going to stand up. People have to start standing up right now. And I'm not talking about it in an asshole way. You don't need to be an asshole to stand up. But people need to stand up and have a little bit of a backbone. Can I be a little bit of an asshole? No, you can't because then you don't convert. And then the mission isn't converting because right
Starting point is 01:06:21 now the biggest battle that's going on right now is the battle of converting. converting who's going to convert better it's all about who's going to convert better what's going to help you to convert better being an asshole doesn't convert it just doesn't you can be the smartest asshole in the world you're not going to convert nobody that's what that's my problem with Trump what do you mean that's your problem with Trump he's not converting people I I think he's I think he's the people love, and they also hate him because he's the biggest asshole in the world. And the problem is that he's not getting the people on the fence to be like,
Starting point is 01:06:51 all right, I'm gonna go with the asshole. But he's a catalyst. He's a catalyst though, and he's making people who would have sat on the sidelines getting the game. No, he didn't, he just lost. So he lost. Yeah, you went to hold the friend angle here.
Starting point is 01:07:03 We can go there if you want to. I don't mind going there, but I'm just saying, I think of asshole. I think of Trump. And again, people love him because he's the asshole. Have the country do. Have the country do. I get it. But he's not converting enough to win.
Starting point is 01:07:16 But wait a minute, wait a minute. This guy, this guy beat Hillary Clinton. At least like, you cannot say, ever. Bro, are you kidding me. This guy beat a person with one of the most ridiculous qualified resumes to go in that he he's a nobody to beat Hillary Clinton. He's never been in politics but that's what they love. Even Reagan was a governor before Reagan was a president of SAG Reagan had been in Nobody's done what Trump's dot nobody that's not what you can put one person hat i agree with you so that doesn't mean he's not a freaking ass
Starting point is 01:07:52 i don't i don't i don't know if they have more votes are less votes in the but he could be a lot of campaign he could be a lot of less votes than when he beat hilly well a lot more people voted he got a lot more votes hey i think the angle to take us to follow here's what i will tell you about trumps uh... biggest challenge you ready unnest giving birth to unnecessary enemies for what that ain't gonna stop for what
Starting point is 01:08:14 why you given birth to unnecessary enemies what's the motive there i understand ghost like the way he came out with his campaign where having people come across that are rapes that fully get it you wanted to have a blast everybody talks about everybody invites you to their brilliant strategies like an aOC using his strategy Brick a great market genius, but he created unnecessary enemies Unnecessary enemies when the topic of discussion takes place here in Florida And I ask who do you want to see let you say it's the between the Santas and the Republic and then And Trump some camps says Trump some camps say the Santas
Starting point is 01:08:46 Those who say the Santas they say it's the same exact policies as Trump minus The unnecessary Before I'd vote for a dissent. Well you said it's it's I and me versus we in us That was he made two major mistakes. He uses I and me instead of wein us yeah now with that was his major major mistake i alone can fix it he lost me that i was like you're the guy you're the you're the you're the Messiah yeah it's a little the the narcissist the a book one when you know when a democrat says give me all your money and i'll change the weather that that doesn't bother you who said that that's essentially what the green new deal is i don't know. Give us 90-
Starting point is 01:09:25 Oh, I'm not a supporter of the big, I'm a great, I'm a great new deal. But I would tell you the flip side of it. I would tell you the flip side of it. If there is the unnecessary enemies that are out to face what's going on today, you need such a strong guy. You need such a strong guy.
Starting point is 01:09:42 You cannot have a lightweight guy that's going up against what's going on today. Because it's whoever, whatever Republican becomes the president next, it's going to be one of the hardest positions, jobs. They're going to destroy this guy. Whoever the next, they're going to destroy him the next guy. It's going to be one of the toughest jobs to have. The next person.
Starting point is 01:10:00 Do you think there will be a fair election? Uh, honest to God. Yes, I think. Even in the midterm, do you think there will be a fair election? Honest to God. Yes, even in the midterms. Do you think there will be a fair election? No, I don't think so because historically this is this is part of like when he said he says, Hey, why don't you become better at stealing again? Why don't you become better at manipulating again? No, I don't think there is. I think that's part of, but I don't think that's anything new. I think that's been part of election for 204 cameras on it. I just think it's a little bit more you need more technology today. You need a little bit more advancement today.
Starting point is 01:10:26 You need a little bit more creativity. I don't think it's gonna be a fair election. No, I don't think it is. But I don't think they need to use that as an excuse to lose. I think they need to be invent, like if you're going up against patriots and they're watching, fine.
Starting point is 01:10:39 Okay, then confuse the shit out of them. But they have our playbook. I don't give a shit. Don't do the play that you're gonna do. Confuse the hell out of them. So it doesn't matter what them, but they have our playbook. I don't give a shit. Don't do the play that you're gonna do. Confuse the hell out of them. So it doesn't matter what it is, they have your playbook. You still gotta, today I went to the gym in the morning,
Starting point is 01:10:51 frickin' guy, man, eat, this guy pisses me off because I go in, when you think about drop set, what do you do? You do two plates, then you go to plate and 25, then you go to plate. This guy does the opposite. So I go and I'm like, so, hey, hey, I want you to do this a bench with a plate on each side 15 times.. So I go and I'm like, okay, so hey, hey, I want you to do this a bench with a plate on each side 15 times.
Starting point is 01:11:07 I'll go cold, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop. Every time I leave my entire body, or it's I'm crying, I get in my car, I sit there and cry for like five minutes. I just don't want him to see you. I like to get a camera on that. So I go and I'm like, okay, let's start, do this 15 times.
Starting point is 01:11:19 I'm like, I don't know where this guy's gonna go. He's the most unpredictable trainer I've ever had. You feel good? Good, let's put some more weight on it. Five second break. I'm like, no, you're supposed to go to, he said, no, no, just push it. Push it, push it.
Starting point is 01:11:30 And he doesn't say push it eight times. Push it 15 times. I can't push it 15 times. Yes, you can go. So I'm going 10, five more. So I'm like, we're done, right? Put some more weight, go. This doesn't make any sense, but he's shocking a body.
Starting point is 01:11:43 Public distance has to be doing it. Stop shifting blame on today other people Look at the mirror make it happen. I'm just being a little baby right now But I tell you man. I feel amazing Hey, we're happy that you're doing this. I'm more than amazing. So Amazon offers to pay college fees of 750,000 frontline US workers. This is a guardian story. Amazon is the latest big US from to offer education focus perks to workers after Walmart target and croaker.
Starting point is 01:12:12 The company, which is investing $1.2 billion in the scheme by 2025, said it would cover the cost of college tuition fees and textbook for US hourly staff after 90 days of employment. For as long as they remain at Amazon, at Amazon Amazon is now the largest job created in the US We know that investing in free skills training for our teams can have a huge impact of hundreds of thousands of families across the country May Amazon said it would hire 750,000 workers across its warehouse and delivery network in US and Canada company hard to run
Starting point is 01:12:38 500,000 staff last year thoughts on this I have an opinion on this I'm curious to know what you guys think about this Yeah, I figured it goes to show exactly what I was saying before, like Amazon, you know, the idea behind becoming like a factory worker was it was, you know, a good job, but it's an entry level job. It's a job that you move up from. And, you know, even the, we talked to Vanessa, who was one of our producers here, that the Amazon jobs, you know, they, $17 an hour and then you go up to $17.25, you work your 12-hour shifts.
Starting point is 01:13:05 So if the idea for them, I don't think that they would outpriced their own labor. The idea of college or in theory, college education or higher education is to make you worth more in the job marketplace. So Amazon's not going to make itself its own employees more expensive. I think this goes to show it, they think more than anything, what Bezos thinks of modern education, where he needs more disciplined employees,
Starting point is 01:13:32 he needs employees that are clocking in, clocking out, listening, they're being obedient. I think that our modern education system doesn't breed thinkers and entrepreneurs, I think it breeds factory workers. Okay. And he wants them to work in the factory, you know? Well, look, I don't have such a negative twist on this.
Starting point is 01:13:51 I think it's impressive that, or whether it's PR, whether it's for the good of society, whether they want a more educated workplace, what do they want them to be obedient, whatever it is, the Amazon's the world, the targets of the world, the Walmart's of the world, the crocs of the world, I think this is a net positive for people educating them, paying for their school, they're not graduating with debt, that's pretty good.
Starting point is 01:14:16 The question here, we kind of brought this up earlier is this, this might attract talent, but will this keep the talent? I know you could take the reservation, but can you hold the reservation? So what's going to happen to these people? They work for them, they go to school, they become, you know, get a degree in whatever economics, like all of you. Accountability is going to be the challenge. Are they going to stay with Amazon? Are they going to stay with Walmart? What are you going to do? It's a form of accountability. So in
Starting point is 01:14:41 the military, when they give GI bills, a lot of guys will be like, shit, I'm not going to go to school, but I have to take 12 units for me to get my, when they give GI bills, a lot of guys will be like, shit, I'm not gonna go to school, but I have to take 12 units for me to get my $1,200 a month. And guys would take the 12 units and never show up, but the military would keep paying the check because the requirement was the 12 units. Not the grades, I didn't give a show what your grades were. They cared the fact that you just show that you have 12 units.
Starting point is 01:14:59 So Amazon's gonna have to figure out a way to have an accountability system. I don't know what that's gonna look like. I don't know if they're gonna require a GPA passing or using it, abusing it. So eventually someone's gonna have to figure out a way to have an accountability system. I don't know what that's gonna look like. I don't know if they're gonna require a GPA passing or using it, abusing it. So eventually someone's gonna get pissed and they're not paying much bullshit. They're not doing that, but in reality that guy wasn't kind of, he was trying to use, it's gonna end up backfiring on these guys in the next two years.
Starting point is 01:15:16 Let me go to the next section. Here's the second part. I think it's a great idea. The fact that they're doing it awesome. That's part of capitalism. Let a company be willing to create a social program for the people rather than putting it on the taxpayers that don't need to pay somebody else's problem. So Amazon is saying, look, we'll take here
Starting point is 01:15:31 the social program. Amazon becomes a small little government that's taking care of the employees. Check phenomenal job. Third, the company crosses street that hires warehouse workers, he's getting screwed because he's gonna have that tough conversations with his employees.
Starting point is 01:15:43 And they're gonna come out to him saying, hey, Amazon's off from me full-ride scholarship. If I go there and do that at a 2.0 GPA and no one ever gave me a full-ride scholarship, and I can go and say, I got a full-ride scholarship from Amazon. It kind of sounds cool, right? To be able to say that, if you're willing to give me this scholarship, I'll stick around with it. The guys like, dude, I can't get. They just raise them in a way, just a 15 bucks. I can't afford to pay you $22,000 as you're for schooling. That means the $35,000 you're employee officially become a $57,000, I can't afford that. I just can't. Listen, Johnny, I love you. I have no idea how much I love working for you,
Starting point is 01:16:10 but do it. I'm gonna go get that job at Amazon. So, elimination of competition at the highest level, all right, again, capitalism, competitiveness, fine. Here's what I would do if I was Amazon though. There's no way in the world, I, if I'm Amazon, I'm sending my guys to other universities, no way. I'm gonna start an Amazon university.
Starting point is 01:16:29 I'm gonna go recruit a thousand professors and teachers from other universities, given them 10% bonus on top of what they're doing. Maybe a 20% bump. If you're getting 80 grand, I'm gonna give you 96. If you're making 60, I'm gonna give you 72. If you make it a hunt, I'm gonna give you 120. Come to Amazon University, I would gradually start
Starting point is 01:16:47 recruiting the best professors a way to work for Amazon University. That would be the strategy on what to do. Then from there, it is what it is because at this point, what are you gonna be doing? These people are still gonna go out there. So, the challenge with that is, are you gonna be able to pull universities
Starting point is 01:17:02 at all these different places? It's gonna be tough because it's physical. It's not like they can travel to a place to be at the headquarters due to online universities. That's the kind of challenge, but I would do my own university. The devil's in the details too, you're right, because maybe this is a military type situation
Starting point is 01:17:17 where you're not getting it done when you're working at Amazon. Maybe you have to guarantee Amazon eight years to get them paid off or something. Maybe it's like a 10 year, if you're with Amazon for 10 years, you're going to pay it off. I don't know the details of it, but I have a very, very hard, hard to believe feeling. Like you're right. I have, like you can go to Pepperdine for $75,000 a year and, you know, Amazon's going to
Starting point is 01:17:37 pay for that or are they going to have like a select system of account about the go ahead Kai. Pat, also one thing that I was thing that I was thinking about was obviously, what's the one thing that Amazon has had a lot of trouble with the last times we've mentioned them in the podcast? Obviously maintaining people, having them work their long enough and not burning through people. So, I quickly looked up what is the average tenure
Starting point is 01:18:01 for somebody at a fulfillment center? Want to make any guesses? One year. Oh, was it that long? Yeah. One year. Were you saying that that was it? Wow.
Starting point is 01:18:09 So if you're looking at 90 days, that's what, three months of just before you can even be eligible. At that point, it's a competitive advantage of keeping them staying there longer than a year, because college is what, three to four years. So if you can, if they can bump up that rate then obviously your pain pennies for pennies on the dollar to keep people working because Training someone in the hiring process is what often costs a lot of money
Starting point is 01:18:34 So if you can avoid that that money is made up on the back end That's another great point. I just made three to four years college It's really four to five if you're going full-time now So if you're working full-time in amazon college might take you six seven years yeah kai want to turn that off i don't know if you don't know that's what you go with your saying you're gonna be there for a while i just don't think jef basal's the most altruistic human being on earth there's i i see it on tear your motor he's better than stalin though i don't i don't know stalin was
Starting point is 01:19:00 better than him apparently i don't i don't know if i even go there because like let's just say I think he's so logical that he's like, this is going to cost us a couple billion dollars. Screw it. We'll write it off and we'll use it as marketing cost and marketing. Instead of advertising, we're going to use this. It's fine. We can afford it.
Starting point is 01:19:17 I think he's so logical that like even the guy, the guy never got the gift of gap. He comes off after going to space, comes back and says, I just want to thank all the employees for funding this. You paid for all of this. It's like, okay, if there's a million different ways to word it, that was definitely the one way you shouldn't have worded it, but it is what it is. But don't, it's not just Amazon.
Starting point is 01:19:37 It's Walmart, it's Kroger, it's Target. All these major warehouse type factory companies that are employing Ridiculous amounts of Americans are following suit, right? So there's something that's great What I'm trying to tell you is I think that's great because any time capitalists Create social programs. Mm-hmm. That minimum that lowers taxes because the capitalists is taking the job off of that And they're doing it themselves if you left it alone This would have happened by itself anyways if we had a flat tax imagine if we had a flat tax, okay? Flat tax 10%
Starting point is 01:20:13 If we had a 10% flat tax you give that to the government. Let's just say for military and Everybody else keeps another 15% what the hell you think banks would do with that or these companies would do with it I think they're just gonna sit on the cash. No, it would be so competitive that people would be forced to have universities childcare daycare You know all these other activities. That would be amazing if there was a lot. It would happen Steve Forbes ran on that but P in America still believe that government employees politicians Use money better than people in private politicians use money better than people in private business. So it is what it is. They trust politicians with no experience in business
Starting point is 01:20:49 to spend your money better than the people that actually ran business that do it on a daily basis. It's fascinating. What the hell is going on in that? Did I ever tell you? Did I ever tell you? I lose my shit. My education reform idea that got me kicked out
Starting point is 01:21:01 of a brainstorm meeting with Chris. What's that? There was a big problem with this thing called Abbott Districts in New Jersey where low income high-risk schools get an insane amount of money, but it's really just a slush fund. It's just like, so a general contractor will donate $10 million to a campaign and then, oh, well, Newark Shabbat School needs a new pool. It's $30 million who gets the contract.
Starting point is 01:21:26 The contract, right? The pool doesn't even get filled up because there's an insurance issue. There's a giant pool in Newark Shabazz that doesn't even work, right? It's a long story. The average student in New Jersey, when I was there, was like $17,000 a year, and Abbott districts were like $36,000 per student. They were like, okay, let's brainstorm my ideas. Like how can we do education reform,
Starting point is 01:21:48 you know, bring the cost down, but not hurt the students, because the whole point of the average district was, it was supposed to help these students. But after like 30 years of twice the money, the graduation rates had actually dropped in the high risk areas, Trenton, Camden, North, right? So they're going back and forth to this, do that.
Starting point is 01:22:05 And I literally just said, why don't we just give the money to the kids? If you graduate, you get $20,000. That's it. Give the money, and I got laughed out of the room. I was like, what, it's a scholarship. Give it to them in a scholarship. Give it to them in a, if you're gonna spend this money
Starting point is 01:22:17 on the kids, give it to them. It'll circulate back in the account that they won't know what to do with it. I'm like, I feel like the way to incentivize these guys, they're making more money on the street. I just so you know I wouldn't do the way Amazon's doing it My mind wouldn't be the way they're doing it the way I would be doing it would be a tier system Here's one of a tier system would be you come back with your grades based on the GPA that you keep them maintain
Starting point is 01:22:39 It will be a tier system you may make more than others do I may pay you more than What you're minimum was. So for persons doing better at a university with better grades, I'm going to pay you maybe $5,000 more per year than the other person that's not. I'm not going to do it this way. You first get the results, then you get them. I'm not going to talk or see what they're saying. You don't give them money and then you get the results. That's accountability nightmare. You just get the money, then you get the power, then you get the education. When you were a kid, I'm sure you guys did it too it too if you got an A your dad gave you five bucks if you got a B your dad gave you a $1 if you got to see your dad gave you a weapon that's that's the way it was then we give Janet
Starting point is 01:23:13 the L. N. some love here I mean what Janet's been waiting let's let's give Janet the L. N. some of Janet the L. N. love you aren't of a possible October default on US debt swollen by the pandemic this is a New York Times story the United States could default on its debtsS. debt swollen by the pandemic. This is a New York Times story. The United States could default on its debt. Sometime in October of Congress does not take action to raise or suspend the debt limit. Treasury Secretary Janet Eileen Warren on Wednesday, the extraordinary measures that the Treasury Department has been employing to finance the government on a temporary basis. Since August 1st, we'll be exhausted next month.
Starting point is 01:23:42 Yellen said in a letter to lawmakers, once all available measures and cash on hand are fully exhausted, the United States of America would be unable to meet its obligations for the first time in our history. I like that. Yellen said that a default would cause irreparable harm to the US economy and to global financial markets and that even coming close to defaulting could be harmful.
Starting point is 01:24:04 Maybe that's not a bad idea for us to actually see how fake of an economy we have. Maybe let's find out for about 30 days how fake our economy is. Maybe let's find out what's really going on. Listen, this is coming from a guy, I just bought a big house. Can you imagine my property value drops 25%? If that's the number fine, do it.
Starting point is 01:24:20 Let's find out how fake the current economy. Burn it, no. Let's not do that. No, no, no. But wait a minute, why not? How long can we manage fake? You realize we're funding this fake We're funding all this fakeness We're funding all of this fakeness interest rates stay in low for as long as they have first time in the history of America It's funding fake economy In the words Richard Nixon we're all Ken Zians now. There is nothing good about what they're doing right now.
Starting point is 01:24:45 It's just temporary catastrophe because they're worried about whether they're gonna get reelected or not. And by the way, that's not a left or right thing. That's both of them. Neither one of them wants the economy to get back to being real because that president will be a one-term president. But American voters have to be thinking about
Starting point is 01:25:01 what's more important, a fake economy, that eventually the whole thing explodes? Or let's kind of settle down a little bit. Let me ask you, Pat. Every year there's this, like raise the debt ceiling, we're going to the fault, every year happens. Every year happens. What's different this time around? Is there something different, obviously, with the printing of money 5 trillion over the last two years? Is it different? Is it the same? Oh my God, this guy's falling at the last second, the superhero comes in and saves it different? Is it the same? Oh my God, this guy's falling at the last second, the superhero comes in and saves it. What's different this time?
Starting point is 01:25:29 What's different is they want to pass it. That's $3.5 million budget by September 27. You want to ask that? Let me go to page eights, Joe Manchin. You brought this up. Let's just read what Joe has to say about this. So, Joe Manchin says there's no way to pass a $3.5 billion budget.
Starting point is 01:25:44 Trillion out of budget, bill by out of budget bill by september twenty seven cmbc story notice what she said she said what by the end of the month is what she said right by the end of the month we have to figure out a way to trust is by the end of the month right exhausted next month so now Joe says no way we're going to pass a three and a half trillion dollars adding that there's no way to meet the September 27 deadline set by Democrats. Manchains, comments, comments, lawmakers work to approve the measures,
Starting point is 01:26:12 which would invest in climate policy and expand social programs, including childcare and health care without the support of Republicans, who have opposed the proposed tax increases to funded. We've already put out 5.4 trillion dollars and we've tried to help Americans in every possible way we can, and a lot of help that we've already put out $5.4 trillion and we've tried to help Americans in every possible way we can and a lot of help that we've put out there is still there and it's still going to run clear until next year 2022. So what's the urgency?
Starting point is 01:26:33 What's the urgency that we have? It's not the same urgency that we had with the American Rescue Plan. He said, this is Manchin saying this. So you asked the question, Manchin just answered it for you. They're trying to push to get that $3.5 trillion. Look at what they've done. Look at what they've done. They shut your business down.
Starting point is 01:26:52 They bankrupted you for 18 months. Now they're going to raise your taxes higher and they've ever raised them until everybody in America is paying 50% of their freaking money to the things that they don't want and they're devaluing the dollars that you already have So not only did they shut you down and give all your money to their donors But now they're gonna raise your taxes
Starting point is 01:27:11 So what little hope you have left disappears and your money save that money is gonna be half What is the value of the dollar in 10 years? This is insane what we're doing is pure insanity This is like this is a theft the likes of which this is a wealth transfer to likes of which we've never seen in our lifetime Like I can't even believe people are going along with this like think think of those three things. These are Incontrovertible facts again. This is not left. This is not right. This is reality. both sides are doing it with the shut you down not a left to write the devalued your dollar and now they're stealing your future earnings but it's but it's it's guys there's nothing worse than fake success because the fall is unbelievably faithful you know what's fake
Starting point is 01:27:59 success like you know how the boxer you know the scene where where Rocky is like you know when Mickey says you know know, this guy's gonna hurt you when he's facing against you, the clever link, right? This guy's gonna just do this, you're not at this guy's, so what are you talking about? I can beat him. He says, no, you can't, you're not ready for it. Because sometimes behind, like, boxers, what do they do? They only put people in front of their boxer because they're trying to build the guys confident. But the trainer kind of knows this guy cannot fight with the number one number two or number three you ain't that good
Starting point is 01:28:28 I'm just trying to protect you right to kind of get a test for it We've been faking it as if America's economy is bulletproof. It's not It's not they have to kind of bring you back and realize like do you realize how many things that are common sense? We're starting to question whether we're right or wrong. Let me say that one more time. How many things that are common sense? What's common sense? They don't go into debt more than you can afford.
Starting point is 01:28:53 But we're like, no, but we should, because that's what we're supposed to do. Let's keep printing money. And it's gonna decrease the value of US dollar, not necessarily, not necessarily because people say it's not going to. What, tell me a time in history that anything you overprinted, the value of that one up.
Starting point is 01:29:11 Tell me. Show your work one time. But the point is we as the populace are questioning ourselves, like the whole gaslighting deal, we're getting destroyed with gaslighting right now. You're starting to question like normal things. Am I really that dumb? Am I maybe I'm not as smart as these guys at this level.
Starting point is 01:29:29 Maybe Yellen is at a whole different level than I am. Maybe I don't have the intelligence of what these guys are. Or maybe I should just shut up and say, well, these guys know what they're doing and I don't. You're right. Let's keep printing money. You're right. Let's keep doing this. You're right. Let's keep doing that. No, I think common sense, people need to go back to common sense.
Starting point is 01:29:44 This is not technical math. this is common sense map. It's not extremely technical. If you keep printing anything, the value goes down. Period. It just does, and they keep doing it. Anyways. So, what do you think they should actually do? Zero?
Starting point is 01:30:01 Is there a number that they should come up with? Is it one trillion? What did you ever quit that you were cold turkey? What did you ever quit that you were cold turkey on? Did you ever quit anything cold turkey? Like you're like, I was smoking weed and then all of a sudden, next I'm like, I'm done. Two in the back.
Starting point is 01:30:17 I was drinking alcohol. The next acid I'm done drinking alcohol. No, luckily I've never had those problems. But I know you stopped drinking hard liquor. Yeah, but two in the back are I one cold turkey. You did go cold turkey. How did you do alcohol? Wait a minute.
Starting point is 01:30:27 Like did you go cold turkey with alcohol? Hard alcohol? Yeah, yeah, but I used to drink a lot. Now I'm down to like, you know, a couple beers on a Friday. That's pretty much it. Okay, but that's not cold turkey though. No, no, I'm talking. The only thing I ever did cold turkey was chewing the back of it.
Starting point is 01:30:40 Okay, so the point I'm trying to make to you is you don't have to go cold turkey with this. You don't have to go cultureky with this. You don't have to go from 1% to 6%. No, you put a plan and you manage expectation every quarter, the interest rates are going up a quarter of a percent the next four years. I just want people to realize, guess what you do? If you say every quarter, the rates are going up a quarter of a percent, the populace is
Starting point is 01:31:02 sitting there saying, what, fine, it's good, because it's getting me to be prepared that in the next four years, I can't be going around thinking I'm big-shotting anything. No, this is kind of what it's looking like. Every quarter, every quarter we're going through this, every quarter we're going through this. Rather than this, we still can't. I know we still can't. We still can't. Manage expectation. So should we change the election cycles then instead of two Four year terms should a president be a one eight year term should we get rid of re elections? The only way to do that is with four site I mean so much of what we're doing now is dependent on election cycles
Starting point is 01:31:35 And I think that that's you know, why I'm not offended elections. I'm not a term limit I think it's a little bit more realistic than elections voting is supposed to be term limits I mean where we are supposed to be the term limits you know so sometimes look you can put you know but the federal where Pelosi is they're gonna win but the federal reserve is its own stand-alone so to me federal is not even a government agency I know it's not the federal reserve needs to be standalone and make its own here's what we're doing over the next eight years. So the voter, like let's you say, if the president's running and the president says,
Starting point is 01:32:10 the following, so listen guys, I don't control Federal Reserve. That's not my job. So whatever happened with the interest rates, I know it kind of affected the market. I can't change that because it's out of my jurisdiction. The Federal Reserve has one job in place, is to make sure we become as close to as debt-free as possible, and it maintains the economy in a proper way that keeps growing, right?
Starting point is 01:32:30 Healthy unemployment as well. Employment as well. So I think if they set that part aside to say that this is its own person that gets voted by the people, somebody that we even elect for Federal because it's a big decision-maker, maybe even more powerful than a president sometimes, right? Right. So if we did that and a person said, yeah, president Biden, president Trump, you don't have any jurisdiction over me on what we do here. You can get feedback, but this is what we're doing. The interest rates is going to go up a quarter of a percent, every quarter
Starting point is 01:33:02 over the next eight years, and we're going to try to hover around three percent. What% whatever pick a number I'm just making up a number there for you but staying the way we all right one more month one more quarter yeah one more this is not an effective thing at zero we can't maintain no way no way but I do want to I want to know why is that important by the way why is it so important bro how do you want to know how do you pay off that in your personal life do you do you all of a something you mean you just raise your debt ceiling. You can't do that though. You can't do that.
Starting point is 01:33:28 Do you understand what he just said? It's a joke, but you can't do that, right? You can't, hey, can we raise my credit card limit? I'm in debt 40,000. Like, if you call, actually think about it. You got a credit card with $10,000. You're at $10,000. You call MBNA, you call AMEX, you call this guy and say,
Starting point is 01:33:43 I know I'm in debt $10,000. My credit card limit is $10,000. Do you guys mind to help me my credit score increase my limit to $20,000? Because it's hurting my credit score. You tell me what discover AMEX or visa master cards are going to tell you. They're going to say, I'm sorry, what? Somebody should actually do this and say, but presidents do that. Why can't I do that? That's raising the maximum capacity of the debt. I'm
Starting point is 01:34:04 talking about you're talking about raising the interest rates from zero to 0.25 to 100 points or whatever that is. But why is it in one drop? No, but this is important to decide them. If you, if you, if you're baseman is flooded, it doesn't matter how many additions you put onto the house, the baseman's still flooded.
Starting point is 01:34:24 That's what he's saying. No matter how many additions you put onto the house, the basement's still flooded. That's what he's saying. No matter how many times you address the debt, right? You're not addressing the deficit. You have to get rid of the water that's flooding your basement. Putting an addition on the house doesn't do that. I'm 1,000% with you on why you don't want debt in your life. I'm with you, but why is raising the interest rates important? Meaning, why do you want to get to 3%, as an example?
Starting point is 01:34:49 Look, when the interest rate is not having debt, I get it. When the interest rates are low, anything that you finance to value of it is higher, because it's free money. Like right now, everybody who's a businessman, who's running a company, if they can get a line from the government for a billion dollar debt
Starting point is 01:35:07 Go get it everyone's doing it leverage really if you can get a hundred million. Same thing at one percent nothing You pay nothing to one thing it do percent money is so cheap today Go get it. So this is why you see you know how you see certain the rich can qualify right people that are buying one house two house Three house four house five house six on seven eight nine two discuss You got six for our reason to garage got nine. I remember a guy back in 2005 He had four different roles Roy's same exact phantom parked outside of his house Everybody would this go go to discuss it like this guy's freaking rich as hell But no income no acid anything you can finance for nothing the moment. Oh, wait came around the market tank 38 percent Not only did
Starting point is 01:35:45 he lose all his roles, he lost the two houses, he owed the government $5 million and he didn't know how to pay for it. But that needed to be filtered out. Of course. So the interest rates makes everything eventually be worth what it's worth. A guy buys a house right down here, I looked at this house, we went and looked at it. We walked left the house, it looked like a 50 shades of gray house. The guy ends up buying it for $70 million. The next month after he buys it for $70 million, he puts it on the market for $31 million.
Starting point is 01:36:12 He just raised the price to $32 million. Someone's about to buy that thing for $30 million. In four months, he bought it from $17 million. He's gonna sell it for $30 million. That doesn't make any sense. Good purchase right there. He didn't do nothing to the house. The house, like nothing to the house.
Starting point is 01:36:26 Here's ultimately my question, and I want to get your advice on this. You remember back in the 80s, interest rates on mortgages were like 12%. Yeah. Let me say that again. Interest rates on mortgages were like 12%. It's a great Jimmy Carter.
Starting point is 01:36:38 Everything was going insane. Well, even when Reagan was there, it was all throughout the 80s. No, he lowered it. It started to lower, started to taper off, but even until the 90s, it was all throughout the 80s. No, he lowered it. It started to lower, it started to taper off, but even until the 90s, it was at double digits almost. The point is this. Comes from the community reinvestment.
Starting point is 01:36:52 I said, up until the 90s, it's all throughout the 80s. But the point is this, what's the sweet spot? You're saying use 3% as an example. Obviously zero is no good. And obviously you don't want to be spending 10% on your mortgage payment on your interest on your, is there a number that you have in mind is what I'm asking. You said it changes for some time. You change your time.
Starting point is 01:37:11 You change your time. I don't know, man. I mean, it's like, I can't how much break do you need? It's like, well, if you're going 25 miles an hour, you need this much break. If you go in 95 miles an hour, you need a little more break, you know? I mean, it's, it's subject to the times double digit wasn't in the 90s. It was 84. I said into through the 80s up till 90 But then Carter's last era was last year was 16.39
Starting point is 01:37:29 Chris and we got a lack that it was 5.54. So he took it from 5.5 He took he took the average yield from 5.54 to 16% CDs were paying 14 15 16% at the time But with everything these were paying 16% yeah, of course what I'm saying. It's insane. By the way, the same. Everything that these were paying, 16%. Yeah, of course. That's what I'm saying, it's insane. But the conversation on the heaven right now, this is the type of stuff that they don't teach in school. So that I talk about all the time. But you talked about getting books,
Starting point is 01:37:56 get a book's on negotiations, getting books on sales, getting books on how money works, interest rates are major necessary. I think what you're teaching is necessary. I think that concept is necessary. Yeah, but even this is stuff that this is macro economics. But it's not. But it's not though.
Starting point is 01:38:10 Just go to that visual. Just think about it. Yeah. Like I said, what's tall? You said, I don't think six is tall. Six times. So why do you think that because if everything's always I'm not good enough. We always have them in tell it.
Starting point is 01:38:20 I'm not rich enough. I'm not successful. I'm not tall enough. I'm not strong enough. It's always the guy that's a little bit more stronger that's strong, right? We're always kind of in tell it. I'm not rich enough. I'm not successful. I'm not tall enough. I'm not strong enough. It's always the guy that's a little bit more stronger, that's strong, right? We're always kind of think that way. And then internally we're confident, but I don't know maybe about this.
Starting point is 01:38:31 It's not. If you called your credit card company and you said, I got $10,000 credit code with $10,000, I'm max it out. Can you give me another limit for 10 grand? What's the credit card company going to say to you? Actually tell me what you think they're going to say to you. They're going to say, what the hell is wrong with you? credit card company gonna say to you. Actually, tell me what you think they're gonna say to you. They're gonna say, what the hell is wrong with you?
Starting point is 01:38:48 They will not- Credit card companies will probably say, sure, buddy, keep charging on. They will not do that. No, to give you additional 10, you give an additional 10 to somebody that doesn't know how to handle their money, you don't do that.
Starting point is 01:38:57 You know when- I see Spider-Given, you know the 10. You know when I got a ton of credit? Is when I don't need any credit. Yeah,. We're gonna raise your limit to a hundred thousand cool But you know what's bro, I don't want to raise it to a hundred thousand for what though. Let's go I'll take it, but you have to spend ten thousand dollars a month Yeah, but but the point I'm trying to make to use this stuff is not as complicated What the politicians are famous for doing is to convince the populace that they're smarter than them and let them make the decision for them. No,
Starting point is 01:39:27 no. These are regular people just like you. Okay. These are regular people. They just decided to go get their job to be a politician and they're on TV and just because you're on TV, people think you're smart because you're on TV. I agree with you that we need to stop glorifying politicians. If I left and right, if I could for a second, all right, because we kind of brushed over this, but I think this is very important for people to hear. They're trying, they are basically with this re-infrastructure act, trying to make an effective 50% tax rate
Starting point is 01:39:52 for all Americans, essentially is what they're going for. So just understand, people listening at home, okay, especially my blue collar people, you're sitting in traffic an hour to get to work. You don't get paid for that, all right. Then you're gonna go to work, half of you work a job, you don't wanna work in, but you need to because you have responsibilities and you're a dude for person.
Starting point is 01:40:10 So eight hours a day, you do that, then you sit in traffic another hour home. 10 hours of your day, then you see your family for three hours, you go to sleep, okay? So 10 hours away from your family, doing a job, you probably don't wanna do sitting in traffic, you don't wanna sit in. Under this, you've to understand what taxes are
Starting point is 01:40:25 That means you will not earn a dollar you will not actually earn any money for you or your family not January not February Not March not April not May not June Until July first you are a wage slave to the government to the government that just left $85 billion worth of stuff behind in for the Taliban That's how much they care about the hours of your life That's how much they care about your money your tax dollars that they're gonna raise that they just left $85 billion for the Taliban to use as as Christmas toys, okay? And now they want more of your life.
Starting point is 01:41:06 It's stop looking at it as money folks, I beg you. Stop looking at it as money. This is hours of your life, that they are stealing from you. Yeah, I mean, that brings it back to very good visual for people to be thinking about. So let's go to page number seven. College students chant F. Joe Biden at football games.
Starting point is 01:41:23 Okay, is this a good thing? Is this a bad thing? So page seven, college football fans have taken to chanting F. Joe Biden understands this is a during games and the Saturday marked the second straight weekend of presidential taunts. Old row sports identified at least four instances of the chance F. Joe Biden at college gains during the weekend of September 4, 2021, the chance broke out at Coastal Carolina University, Virginia Tech, Auburn University in Texas A&M, the chat broke out again, amid the student section of the Auburn Alabama State game on September 11, Donald Trump Jr. predicted that this trend will continue.
Starting point is 01:42:01 He said the Biden presidency has gotten so bad that the media can't run cover for him anymore even at the last week's 9-11 event that took place do you know pro broko mama spoke do you know Joe Biden spoke i'm sorry do you know a president boy spoke you know who didn't speak this week Joe Biden to speak didn't speak this week and they say it's one of two reasons republicans are saying he didn't speak because uh... uh... everybody was gonna boom and he was gonna get destroyed like he you know what the fact that their team doesn't want to say anything even democrats are saying they just thought it wouldn't be a good look for them to talk right now it's better off for them to just kind of take it easy but what do you think about these chance chance chanting your president f Joe Biden is
Starting point is 01:42:41 this a good thing is this a bad look look? What do you think? And I'm gonna remove my, any biases whatsoever, but the same shit was happening at different places regarding Donald Trump two years ago. So, Ron called him a chump. Okay, so like, let's stop making this a big, I'm not saying we are, but cool, drunk college kids in the South are screaming, or F. Joe Biden.
Starting point is 01:43:02 Cool, liberals and Boston are doing the same thing for for Trump this is such a non-story for me it's the same thing that happened a few years ago it's a good thing though I think it's irrelevant I like freedom of speech do it if you want to do it go for it sure I don't college kids in the South at a football game you have a strong different opinion look man I think I think what you're seeing again is the stratification of look when you have jeezing byton get on uh... air on thursday and threatened the entire country he gets on and he threatens uh... duly elected fairly elected
Starting point is 01:43:37 governors if you won't do what i say and if you want subject that subjugate your citizens in the way i'd demand i will get you out of the way my patients is wearing thin this isn't about your freedom you know what double barrel to of these to uh... to you uh... jeezing by then and and and i'm saying this as a guy that hated george bush i know i read things i'm like a right wing guy on this but i hate it george bush to meet george bush was the second worst president of all time behind you can't be can is second worst president of all time behind Buchanan Buchanan's the worst president of all time by far All right, he let the country fall apart. He basically gave up in his in his term
Starting point is 01:44:11 He was like screw it. I don't want to deal with this and he let the country ripen half thank God for Abraham Lincoln following him Okay, then Bush inherits a surplus and turns it into a deficit and gets us a new war that costs us 300 million dollars a day. George Bush inherited a surplus. People don't want to give Clinton credit. We left this with a surplus. Okay. We're talking about Janet Yellen raising, we had a surplus in our lifetime.
Starting point is 01:44:37 Like it's like we act like this is insane. So that's what I became a fan of the Democrats. I thought Clinton was a G and I was a fan. Bush was objectively horrible and the fact that Bush speaks at 9-11 doesn't sit me very well either to be honest with you. But listen, say that Pat is a big fan of George Bush. I mean, that's a guy. God bless you, right? Letters with each other. He probably have a different approach. So George Bush needs to be. You did meet George W. Bush. You are for you. You're a great guy.
Starting point is 01:45:03 But listen, this is not this is not about whether I get along with anybody I agree or disagree with for the most part I get along with anybody It doesn't matter. I sit down. I can talk to anybody. No, this isn't about that. This is about is this a good idea for this to be taking place for me It tells me a couple different things. I've never liked it never liked it it, to get to that point, never, to make that be okay. I was so furious when, what's his name said, hey, chump, he wasn't going to come anyways. No, when he said, hey, chump, he wasn't going to come anyways. And LeBron called the president, hey, chump. And Durant, I'm not going to the White House. And then Stephen A Smith and Max Kellerman went back and forth and will came to secrete with both
Starting point is 01:45:43 of them, will can't end that up getting fired. Wilkain disagreed with both of them. Wilkain ended up getting fired, and now he's got a job at Fox News. Anyways, I'm not a fan of what's going on here, but what it does tell you is the following. It would be cost a disrespectful, or Wilkain said, you know, you should respect the office. But these guys are like, wow, you know, anyways, here's where I go with this.
Starting point is 01:46:01 What I go with this is demographics, marketing. It tells you who the NBA fan is Oh, the audience is it tells you what college football is College football is a conservative fan base if that's what they're saying well in the South These are not small market you're not your Texas and I'm sorry. You're not talking about First you know, bro Virginia tech is not a Republican university buddy Virginia take your say is a Republican university. No, I'm just saying it's in the south Auburn University coastal Carolina. Oh, it's in the south. It doesn't matter. You're saying you're saying you're saying you're
Starting point is 01:46:34 a university in the south automatically everybody. Everybody in the south is sitting there. There's now with him saying to ride to the south. We could just, this, this, this, we're not aware of the south usually votes Republican. You're a smart guy. You know this already. But university is different because university people don't go to university from the city there. And people come from all across the country. So it's not like it.
Starting point is 01:46:57 Yeah. Ashville, but every city in the south is a thing to you. All I'm saying to you is it's the audience that's doing it. It's interesting. That's all I'm it's the audience that's doing it, it's interesting, that's all I'm saying. The audience that's doing it is interesting. I've never been a fan. I don't care if it's Joe Trump.
Starting point is 01:47:10 I don't think it's time to wrap up here. I wanna get your, can I obviously do Monday morning quarterback next time? Something we've been talking about for over a year now that Gavin Newsom recall is today. Do you have any strong feelings or prognostications on this? There's a lot of things you're hearing from both sides.
Starting point is 01:47:27 The one side is saying there's no way it's going to happen. Obama, Pelosi, everybody showed up to save. Newsom, everybody's commenting on the other side, Larry Elder. California has five million more Democrats than Republicans. You need to know the stats on that as well. In the recall side, a bunch of Republicans that were going and voting, they said, you already vote, it's like, I didn't vote. And so this lady's asking, you know, five other ladies that. In the recall side, a bunch of Republicans that were going and voting, they said, you already vote, I didn't vote. And so this lady's asking, you know,
Starting point is 01:47:47 five of the ladies that were in the voting place, did you guys, yeah, said I voted, but I didn't vote. Are you Democrat or Republican? We're Republican. Wait a minute, you're a Republican and I said the machine that you already voted, yeah, but we didn't vote.
Starting point is 01:47:56 So, you know, again, going back to some of the stuff that's taken place, they're, you think they're gonna let new some, this, I don't know. Two times this has happened in the history of America, I think. One of them is Davis and the other one is some, some, I don't know. Two times this has happened in the history of America, I think. One of them is Davis and the other one is some, some, some, I don't know who the other person was. Well, maybe we have a governor meet Kevin Pafferath on again. Anyway, him and Gerard, my god, I think him and Gerard need to do podcast together.
Starting point is 01:48:17 We'll do a podcast with him. One of his super happy, fun time, concentration camps. I think he's necessary for California, FYI. The real quick, I know you got you gotta leave you actually asked an incredible question yesterday if two-pock was alive today yeah fifty if fifty if first the birthday was yesterday right yeah do you where do you think two-pock would stand today in today's i think he was
Starting point is 01:48:38 very lucky to be one the biggest voices in america i think he'd be one the biggest voices but he would either be an aoc type of person because he'd be one of the biggest voices, but he would either be an AOC type of person because he could be an AOC type of person. You know, I see that happens, but depends. If he made a lot of wealth, he may be a JC type of person. I just don't think for too far. It would definitely be a BLM type of person. Definitely. 100% out of that. I think he'd be very BLM and I think he'd be very very AOC until this moment. He's so anti-authority and he is so anti-establishment.
Starting point is 01:49:10 I think this last 18 months. Would have kind of pissed him off. Something, yeah, he could have been a catalyst. He got to realize he also said a lot of stuff about his own side. So he wasn't one that was afraid to push back on his own community. He was not one that he would be a very interesting person. Well there is a chance. A kid of me, the song he wrote about hit him up.
Starting point is 01:49:26 Not hit him up. The song he wrote about. Bring this gotta baby. I mean, that's talking about the community. Yeah, I said, anyways, I gotta go. There is a chance he's still alive. I gotta go. I gotta go.
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