PBD Podcast - Are You CNN or FOX? | PBD Podcast | EP 21

Episode Date: October 28, 2020

In this episode, Patrick Bet-David sits down with Adam Sosnick and Byron Udell to discuss the psychology behind successful people, Trump's appearance on 60 Minutes, Microsoft supporting Biden, and much more... The Patrick Bet-David Show Podcast Episode 21. Download the podcasts on all your favorite platforms https://bit.ly/3kF7BT1 Text: PODCAST to 310.340.1132 to get added to the distribution list This episode was sponsored by Express VPN https://bit.ly/3icGde7 The Bet-David Podcast is a podcast that discusses, current events, trending topics, and politics as they relate to life and business. Stay tuned for new episodes and guest appearances. Connect with Patrick on social media: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/patrickbetdavid/?hl=en Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/patrickbetdavid Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/PatrickBetDavid.Valuetainment Follow the guests in this episode: Adam Sosnick: https://bit.ly/2PqllTj To reach the Valuetainment team you can email: [e-mail] About the host: Patrick is a successful startup entrepreneur, CEO of PHP Agency, Inc., emerging author, and Creator of Valuetainment on Youtube. As a natural critical thinker, Patrick takes complex leadership, management, and entrepreneurial ideas and converts them into simple life lessons for today and tomorrow’s entrepreneurs. Patrick is passionate about shaping the next generation of leaders by teaching thought-provoking perspectives on entrepreneurship and disrupting the traditional approach to a career. --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/pbdpodcast/support

All right, we are live. Which episode is this? 21 episode 21 with Adam Saasnik and a friend that we both know, very good friend of mine. We go back many, many years. Byron, you, Dell. Byron, thanks for joining us here on the podcast. Welcome to the show. Welcome to the show. For people that don't know who Byron, you, Dell is Byron runs an insurance company out of Chicago called Acque Quote.

Yes. My friend. My friend. a journalist company out of Chicago called, Akku Quote. Yes, my center right, I quote. And yesterday we're having dinner at Chamberlains and this poor waitress, man. He's telling all these dad jokes. And she was loving it. Oh, yeah, she was loving it. So she comes in first and who asked the question,

I think you asked her the question. You said, let me ask you a question. Simple question. Are you more CNN or Fox? I didn't even say, are you more, she said CNN the question. You said, let me ask you a question. Simple question. Are you more CNN or Fox? I didn't even say, are you more, she said CNN? Fox. She said, she stood there for a while before she was, she looked at us and said, no matter what your answer is,

we're gonna give you 25% tip. She says, okay, that's good to know. She says, I started, I grew up in a family with Fox, but I'm not CNN, right? And then that opened up a can of worms. They were over from there. She said that we were her favorite table. She's ever waited up.

Yeah, that's, she's only been there two weeks ago. Two weeks ago. But we're never one. It's the first girl you kiss. You're the best kisser I've ever met in my life. You know, so, and then, and then you started telling some dad jokes and then they shut down the restaurant. I mean, it was over after that when you started telling

some dad jokes. But anyways, buy rent. I think it's fair to say you're a very successful business guy. Living in a nice 12,000 square foot house in Chicago, you got three properties in Colorado. You run a business with about 100 employees. You know, you're a 50 guy. You're one of those quiet rich guys that no one knows that does things right. Law your wife, so law your sons of stat. Kids are stat all through, you know, the Sam

and Jake, both superstars. Yeah. So we're sitting with a rock star here and he's a very good friend of mine. A fun fact about Byron, you are the one that recommended me a book called Hypomantic Edge when we had dinner in Orlando once together. You said, yeah, this one book name, Hypomantic Edge and I fell in love with it and you were disappointed that I fell in love with the book. No, no, not disappointed. I just, it was interesting that I've talked about that book because that book had just come into my life within the last year, prior

to that. And sitting next to you for a couple hours, I could tell that this book would relate to you because I could, your personality just, you know, you don't hide it, you're kind of wearing it on your sleeve. So I felt like you might relate to this book would relate to you because your personality just, you know, you don't hide it, you're kind of worried on your sleeve. So I felt like you might relate to this book and it might give you validation that some of the feelings that you might have been having that you were struggling with were okay and that was compatible with being a successful entrepreneur.

So here's what's crazy. When he says some of the feelings, like the whole, what is it? Hypo, hypomanic, you're non-stop, you're going, you know, you're feeling like you can't. People telling you, people telling you, you're crazy, you're gonna burn out, you gotta, you gotta do work life balance, and you're like, well, I don't understand this. And, and that book explains that most successful entrepreneurs are hypomanic.

So here's, here's the one part about hypomanic that you got. I want to read to everybody that's you're reading, if you're with us here I think there was 20 qualities of somebody that's hypomanic right is a 20 or or some some qualities I got to read this to you and see if anybody listen to this Relates to anyone of these okay, I hope I find this because it's pretty sick piece Hang on one second hang on one second. Hang on one second. Okay, he is filled with energy. He is,

let me find this, I know I'm like, how long have you guys known each other? Has it been more than five years? How long has it been? I've been five, close to 10 I'm guessing. 10 years almost. Yeah, probably 10 years, but I gotta read this too. Hang on one second, you'll realize,

if you're somebody listening to this and you're thinking maybe I'm hypomantic, this is what I read with the book. I gotta find this, Adam, when you read this, I cannot believe I can't find it. I think it's more like if you read, if you're thinking about it, you think there's something wrong with you.

I mean, that's what the book's all about. It just gives people. Yeah, but it's a never ending energy. You're always feeling like, you know, you're competing someone's after you. You know, it's some weird qualities he writes about. Well, he puts Clinton in there. He puts Andrew Jackson in there.

Anyways, long story short, we got connected and we are what we are today. If you're tuning in, today's gonna be pretty jam-packed. Podcasts, a lot's happened. I think it's fair to say a lot's happened. We have a week away from election. One week away. One week awayed podcasts. A lot's happened. I think it's fair to say a lot's happened. We have a week away from election. One week away.

One week away from election. We're a interesting year for sure. Very interesting year. Amy Coney Barrett yesterday, right? Sworn in, we'll talk about that. Trump on 60 minutes, the single biggest event, you know, a walkoff sourced to 17 million viewers, most watched non-sports show on TV since Oscars.

Just in walk it off, Biden on 60 minutes. Who else was it? We have a lot of things quibi going out of business and saying they're throwing the towel after six months of raising $1.8 billion. The Prop 22 in California court, Roland will lift in Uber. You got Microsoft quietly prepared to avoid spotlight on their Biden because of how they're

supporting him. You brought up a video of Simon Sinek that you want to talk about on selfishness that we may take a second on that there if we watch it together. Shopify stock clamped on all time high when they partnered with Walmart. We'll talk about that. Blackstone group out this one self storage company in a deal for $1.2 billion. Eddie Murphy's movie, maybe we'll touch on that a little bit. What else we got here?

Amy Coney, Jared Kushner says, Trump's policies have helped address the black Americans have been complaining about for some time, Cuomo, Biden, Federal, Frank, and we'll talk about that as well. And I say we start off with Quibi. What do you say? I said we start off with Quibi. You've got some strong feelings. I start off with Quibi. say we start off with quibi. What do you say? I say we start off with quibi.

You've got some strong feelings. I start off with quibi. Let's start off with quibi. So for some of you guys, I don't know about quibi. I don't know if you're familiar with quibi or not. Quibi is, we're talking about a little bit earlier. Quibi is like a competitor of, if you want to put that article up, Kai, that'd be great for us to look at the quibi article. So they come out and they say they're going to compete with Netflix, with Hulu, with all of these guys. And their platform is to show 10 minute films on your phone because they believe the younger audience is going to watch movies more on their phone, right? So that's what they do. The founder is Katzember, who Katzemberk, if you know Katzemberk, he's got a ridiculous resume, $910 million guy. And he brings in

Meg Whitman, you know, Meg Whitman, she ran for Republican governor, state of California. I think she spent $150 million to win. She almost did, but she lost it. $5.1 billion billion person who took eBay from $8 million to $32 billion. So they, that has started, I mean, great lineup they had at Kuibu, right? So they have the funding investor Sony NBC, Warner Time Warner, Goldman Sachs, JP Morgan, Ali Baba. I mean, the list is a long list of people that came in and said, we are stars galore stars galore, the rock Kevin Hart, LeBron James, J. Low. You name it. They have. Let's go. Oh,ron James J. Loh, uh, you name it.

They have goes on. Oh, they had everybody. So Pat, what happened with this script? They had all this backing. They had all this star power. They had all the influence. Yeah. Six six months.

Oh, go. What happened? One point a billion by the way, if you think this, we're not talking about a lot of money. We're not talking a little bit of money. It's a lot of money. We're talking about one point a billion dollars. So what really happened?

Here's a, here's a couple of things. If you read their quote I don't know if you have the quote up or not when they went out of business The way Katzenberg put it that they went out of business. He just said it very simply You know, we've believed that this didn't oh there it is and Wednesday letter Mr. Katzenberg and Miss Whitman said there were one or two Reasons for Kubi's failure the idea behind Kubi either wasn't strong enough to justify a standalone stream and service, or the service is launched in a middle of a pandemic was particularly ill time.

So they're saying what, either we had a bad idea or it's because of pandemic, right? More likely the farmer, meaning the pandemic. So you're thinking, no, no, no. He's saying a bad idea. Bad idea. Bad idea is a bad idea. Okay, so bad idea is a bad idea.

Okay. So let's go with both. Let's go with both. Let's go first with questions with that. Let's go first with bad idea. Let's say it's a bad idea. Okay, so what's a bad idea? Bad idea is that people don't want to watch content,

short films, you know, 10 minutes, they don't want to be entertained by that. I don't think it's a bad idea. Is it pandemic? You know, is it the fact that they came out at a bad time? I mean, Tiger King, Joe Exotic for a week was the most famous person in the world because his,

you know, documentary, his video was watched six the last days came out in March, April. It was the biggest thing. There's been no throttling of your ability to get on your mobile device. So there's no way the pandemic was affecting this. And I'm glad you were saying that. Yeah, I mean, no question about that. But I do believe that a lot of people that are successful, once you reach some modicum of success, you begin to think you know what people want, and that's when it gets dangerous. Because you have to let the people tell you what they want.

And this was a classic case of throwing a lot of money at something that they got themselves or worked up and lathered up about it. I remind myself constantly in our marketing, hey, we think this one's going to work. We're testing some web pages right now. I said, look, before we test them, let's have everybody vote on it. So we can show that there's going to be differing opinions. At the end of the day, the consumer decides which one they like better

and apparently this just didn't resonate. Yeah. Yeah, that's one mean, you know, that's one of the things that they talk about, but the other part of it is when they talk about Quibi is the fact that, so here's our audience, they want 18 to 34 year old audience, well, who they're going after.

We want customers that are 18 to 34, right? Yet they go get a listers and pay them $100,000 a minute to advertise. They don't own any of their content, very little of their content they own, it's purely a technology company that they sell themselves as, meaning we are a tech company. We're not necessarily a Netflix content creation company because what they had was when you put them video there and you're watching it, you spin it, it was a real nice integration,

how smooth it was. And so people loved it. And then rather than going after these big YouTubers, like a Mr. Beast who's got 45 million subscribers to bring a guy like that and say, hey, you know, why don't you come and join us and give them some equity or new partnership with guys like that. They went with the traditional A-listers is where they went one after. And then next thing, you know,

1.8 billion and six months, and then here's the other part. Why are you shutting down after six months? Like, how do you know this thing's not gonna work out? You know, how many changes Netflix had to make? Remember back in the days you got the business from net? They would just send you to DVD and you send them back, they send you another one and another one and another one.

How old does that feel at this point? But what I'm trying to tell you is they recreated themselves multiple times and quibbies just like, nope, we're done. So they're giving $350 million back to their investors and they're shutting it down. So you must have a strong opinion as to what the hell happened here, because in my opinion,

I don't think they had a bad idea. That was A, that was the former. And launching anything digital on your phone, while people are sitting at home during a pandemic, can't be a bad idea, right? Is it too much competition in the marketplace? Is it a business model? What do you think actually happened with this group? Did they it too much competition in the marketplaces? Is it a bad business model? What do you think actually happened with this group?

Did they put too much money into these A-listers and not to the C-listers who could've got cheaper? What the hell happened? If you go in after 18 to 34-year-olds, why don't you go get the 18 to 34-year-olds audience? Get some TikTokers on. What are you doing getting the 47-year-olds in the 50-year-olds?

The 18 to 34-year-olds follow that tiktokers. That's got 15 million followers that you want to have no clue who she is. Go get her. 18 to 34-year-olds follow the Instagram girl or guy that's got 22 million followers that you want to have. I know about. Go get him or her. Go get the YouTuber that's got 29 million subscribers.

Have you ever watched Mr. Beast? Which one have you watched, Mr. Beast? Which one have you watched Mr. Beast? He gave away cars the other day. He just gives away cars like it's raining. Perfect. He gives away cars. What's the other guy's name? The other guy's name?

He's the guy with the Borat. Is that who the Borat guys? You want to play the video with this guy? Here's how they just launched Borat together. Oh, that was awesome. David Dover. Yeah. This is how they just launched Borat together. Oh, that was awesome. David Dover, okay? Yeah. This is how they launched Borat's movie. It's got 8.5 million views, okay?

These are young marketing geniuses, okay? They could have gone to guys like this because these are the audience, they have the audience you want. Click on it to see what these guys do. Look at this. We're gonna bring you guys here today. I want to see you guys to see what these guys are. Look at this. We're gonna bring you guys here today. I want to do this to you guys,

to one of my friends. He flew in all the way from Kazakhstan. Ball, it's not. I like it. Hello. Look at that. Back it up. Back it up.

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Borat got plenty of marketing for this movie. This is genius. It is. Do he says about the price of the car? Yes, it's a keep playing. Keep playing it. It's expensive. It's not cheap. It's expensive. No, it's the expensive car. Yeah, look how much it's expensive. 300 dollars. This goes over 200 dollars.

It's a hundred dollars. This is a hundred fifty thousand dollars. A hundred dollars. What? A hundred dollars. The guy is ridiculous. How capable he is. He's ridiculous. How capable he is. He's ridiculous, how capable he is.

Incredibly talented. But the point is, you know, I think half the battle with Quibi, Adam, if you asked me, is they threw in the towel too early. They threw in the towel too early. They listened to the wrong people. There was this article written about it that they said, if you went to the Quibi headquarters, it was so cocky, so arrogant. It was like, you know, everything about them was that they're better than everybody else and they're going to take over the marketplace and there wasn't a cool feeling about them. There was this war above everybody. They already made it.

It was that kind of a feeling that they had at their headquarters. We've already made it like sexy headquarters that already set up, spent a lot of money on it. So, you know, again, for me, the biggest thing would could be if you think about it is, they simply threw on the towel way too early. When we started the business, like I started the business, we had to change a million times. We tested a million different things that didn't work until, boom, something clicked.

I think it's too early and they could have competed with the marketplace. I wish you were to stuck around a little longer. I talked to my son about this all the time, as it relates to he's in the music business. In the old days, back when we were kids, a record label would sign an artist that had some talent and then they would promote that they'd get it played on radio, all that pay all the stuff. And you didn't have any. The audience didn't decide what the hits were.

The record label's decided what was going to be popular. And that's how it worked. And today it doesn't work that way. The record labels just can't force content down anybody. And people can go out and become popular without the assistance of all that promotion because it's much more organic. And if you get cocky and you think you can actually jam stuff down people's throats, it doesn't work that way.

It's much more transparent. It's much more real today. And so they obviously missed. And you said they gave back $350 million to the investor. So apparently there was a lot of people in on that decision to say, you know what, we're going in a wrong direction. We don't want to waste the last $350 and we're not sure we're going to be able to raise more if we lose $1.8 billion. And so, you know, who are we?

I mean, we're not inside their boardroom. We don't have all the facts they have. We can speculate. There is one thing that we can't speculate. we're not inside their boardroom. We don't have all the facts they have. We can speculate. There is one thing that we can't speculate. There's a big lawsuit going on right now with them. What was I one company that assumed them? Echo, ECKO, some name like that. They were the ones that made the technology that would go smooth.

And so they presented that technology to them with Katzenberg in the room and they went ahead and did it themselves. And echo, the company that's suing them is echoed, they're a EKO. They're a very well-funded company with powerful names. So if they sue you, it's not a small lawsuit. They're coming after you to get exactly what they want. So some are saying that could be that reason, but they're just kind of don't want to go play ball because the loss of can make it really ugly. You're right, we don't know about it and we're speculating, but that's what we have a podcast.

We sit here speculating about everybody's life. So we know it. Pat, would you unpack something for me? We obviously know if this company would have been successful and I started to make money in generate revenue, awesome, awesome, awesome. What happens on the flip side? A company doesn't work.

You guys are both founders, CEOs of your companies. What happens when in the boardroom, when the guys, we're gonna have to shut down, we're gonna have to do this, we're gonna have to give money back investors, walk me through that conversation. Haven't had that conversation, so good. That's a good thing, but imagine if you did,

how does that conversation sound? Like what happens to this company? When you raise 1.8 billion, you don't control 51% of the company., you don't control 51% of the company. When you don't control 51% of the company, you don't make the decision, it's a vote. So there is no one person. One person in the room could have been like,

no, I think we can make this work. And the other three are voting against you. It doesn't matter what you think. It's a different environment because you win and raise 1.8 billion. What do you own? Who has the same? What do you think? When you raise 1.8 billion. What do you own? Who has to say? What do you think?

When you raise 1.8 billion, now the money people tell you what to do. And anytime money people are telling you what to do, they're not in the business, they're not in on a daily basis to know what's going on, who's working, who's not working, who's excited, who's not excited. You don't see any of that stuff. So, it's a different, it's a big difference between that and having a small business owner that goes and raises his own money with a half a million dollars they start a business, they control 100% of it.

Eventually they give up 5, 10, 15, 20% and they can still make that decision themselves, not in a situation like this. These are venture capitalists, angel investors. Who are these people that are making the decision? These guys are not angel investors. There is no angel in there, probably no angels in there. These are people that have money. These are people that are coming in saying,

I'll give you 100 million, I'll give you 50 million. I mean, they made big bets, but I've talked to small business owners that have raised, and given up even five, 10, 15, 20%. And I said, why do you worry about what the investors think when you have 80%? He says, you don't understand. They have hooks.

They have things where they can just get, they can muck up the works and they can get in the way even though They don't have control so it's not like hey just keep 51% and you call all the shots doesn't work that way You're right, but there's an element of it Well, I tell you for myself. I'm the majority on the where I'm at right, but I agree to the certain hooks that they put in right certain awarding that they put in where hey Anytime you're gonna spend anything about 500,000 dollar check on one thing call us Okay, so if I'm if I'm gonna do something at an event and it's going to cost me $3 million,

I got to call them. If I'm investing two, $2,000, it's going to cost me $200,000. I got to call them. On anything above a half a million dollars because we're dealing with their $10 million, right? So you've got to go and get the approval there. But for the most part, if you get the right money, people, they'll leave you alone. If you're growing, we've grown 50% every year for God, no 70 years now. So to them, they're like, listen, keep doing what you're doing,

monthly card that we do, we're good to go quarterly, call that we have and we get to get it, we're good to go. So as long as you're bringing in return, they don't bother you. But in this case, they didn't. In this case, they got 930,000 initial free subscribers that they did. Okay, here's a number, I think it's 910,000 subscribers right off the bat. Quibi app was number three the day came out.

It was a number three was downloaded after the day came out. After a couple of weeks, it's not even the top 50. Do you know how did that 910,000? How many of them subscribed to 4991 with Quibi? A month later, do you know how many of them? 93% dropped off, only 72,000 subscribed. Only 72, they're like, nah, I'm not in it. 72,000 said, I'm in the other 800, some thousand, they said, I'm out. So there is there is there is an element of fatigue in terms of, yeah, I've got Netflix.

I've got all these like a hulu. There's so much. The guys I disagree. I totally disagree. And this is why this is good to have this kind of a podcast. I disagree. Here's why I disagree. I totally disagree. And this is why this is good to have this kind of a podcast. I disagree. Here's why I disagree Do you have Netflix I do when did you buy? Oh, man? I can't write long time ago over 10 years Well, what caused you to get Netflix? They just had the service I wanted. I mean, it was perfect Well, why why did you get it was there is show that you hooked you and can you remember because I remember do you have Netflix? Not anymore. No actually I was actually on the original with the CDs and what I wanted to do was I wanted to have these movies

available to me. So I'd get the CD, I'd burn it down. I'd have it with me when I was traveling. I'd put it on my laptop and I could watch a movie on my laptop and I'd get them. I'd burn them. I'd send them back, whatever, whether that was legal or not legal, I don't know.

And at the end of the day, I ended up just sort of morphing into their streaming platform. How about yourself, Ed? And I do remember they're very, very first. The first, I don't know if you know this, the first original content, you know what it was, on Netflix. House of cards?

No. What's the original content? Lily Hammer. Did you see Lily Hammer? No. Any of you guys seen Lily Hammer? Kai, you saw it in the movie. I've heard about it. You know, you know, I've heard about it. You know, I've heard about it. You you see Lily Hummer? No. Any of you guys seen Lily Hummer? I haven't heard of that. You're a soprano's guy? No. No. If you're not a soprano's guy, we wouldn't want. So, but there you go. That's a perfect example. Lily Hummer got you.

Well, I mean, it certainly was, wow, these people are serious. They must have got the people that were pretty original content on HBO or whatever. Are you on Netflix? So I had Netflix, but now I can't. But here's my point with the whole, you say that you don't think it's a competition. So they do. No, it has to be at least some percentage of competition. Sure. Why is it a competition thing?

I'll tell you why. Do you have Amazon Prime? I do now. Do you have Amazon Prime? I got Amazon Prime for $1,000. You have Hulu? I don't. You have Disney Plus?

I don't. Okay. You have YouTube TV? No. HBO Max? I don't. Okay, you have YouTube TV? No. HBO Max? No. Slint TV. Crunchyroll, Apple TV, Twitch, Sony Crackle.

The list goes on and on and on. I can keep going. So yes, there are some, obviously some issues with their business model. Yeah. For sure. This is a perfect time for the legendary question. What's your point?

Your point is you're saying that it's not competition. Yeah. In my opinion, there has to be some element of competition. I agree. Because you can't have 12 different things that you're going to be watching. Listen, for me. Okay, let's just finalize this. How many do you have? You have Netflix, you have Amazon Prime, you've got Disney Plus for your kids. Okay. What else do you have? But think about everything you're saying right there. Why do I have them? The question isn't, if you're saying right there. Why do I have them? The question isn't, if I have them or not, why do I have them?

Do you want them? Do you know why I have Amazon? Do you know why I have Amazon? I show you why I have Amazon. Do you know why I have Amazon? Yeah. Why? Because you want to watch Shyla Buff's movie, the...

Honeyboy. I want to watch Honeyboy. I'm a die-hard Shyla Buff fan. Okay. So Honeyboy is a story about him and his father. So I wanted to watch Shyla Buff. He makes, a story about him and his father. So I wanted to watch child above. He makes this movie about his life with his father. And he, in a sit down with Jimmy Kimmel says,

I made this movie to be by my father. And I had my dad, I said, Dad, please watch this movie. He had his dad watch the movie with one agreement that he made with his dad. I want to watch you on FaceTime. You watch the movie. I just want to see your facial reactions. So he makes the movie.

All these scenes about his dad and he watches his dad's reaction the entire time. You know what I do? I go by Amazon. I am in cancel distance. I've never watched anything else except for Honeyboy just because of Shilobov. I got Netflix because of House of Cars.

I have Disney Plus because of Kids. I don't have Hulu because no shows got me on Hulu yet. And so the point I'm trying to make to you is, I agree there's a lot of competition. Don't forget Google is the number 14 search engine ever to come out. That means before Google there was 13 others. So what do you mean there's competition? Of course there's going to be competition. Amazon came out while there was millions of seers, Costco, you know, Sam's Club, you know, K-Mart,

all this and then Amazon comes in and they kill and everybody. That's a long time. That's a long time. But that's from 94. The point is, the point is they didn't throw in the towel. I think in a situation like this, there's one part about what he said that I agree with.

One part of what he said that I agree with. It was the first comment you made. And the comment was, sometimes when you win, you think you're winning everything and you can't. Just because you were a great basketball player, your name is Michael Jordan, doesn't mean you're gonna be a great owner. Just because you were a great basketball player,

Magic Johnson, doesn't mean you're gonna make a good coach. I thought you were going somewhere totally out there. Especially when it comes to trying to anticipate what consumers are gonna do and how they're gonna react to your product. Okay, you just don't know. You think you know the more success you have, the more you think you know. How many of you here that are watching this?

How many of you here that are watching this actually subscribe to Quibi. I'll be so curious. How many of you that are watching this right now actually subscribe to Quibi. Comment below if you actually subscribed to Quibi. Go ahead. You know where I thought you were going that when you went to basketball reference is tell me before you know this quote,

sometimes when you think you win, you really lose. But sometimes when you lose, you really win. But sometimes when you win, it's actually a tie. No, that's where I thought you were going with this. That's why, man, can't jump. There was a bridge. Okay, so. Bailey, you're so stupid.

You've read scientific advertising, Claude Hopkins. Yes. I mean, that's it right there. I mean, you've read scientific advertising, Claude Hopkins. Yes. I mean, that's it right there. I mean, just read the book. It's 50 pages, very short book. Yeah. Everybody that's trying to market anything,

trying to sell anything, you gotta read that book. You just have to, I mean, you have to let the consumer show. $1.00 billion down the drain. So here's the $1.80 billion question. Bottom line is, did you have Quibi? No. Why didn't you have Quibi?

Because they're not targeting somebody like me No. Why didn't you have Quibi? Because they're not targeting somebody like me and a show didn't catch my attention. Nobody came to me. Tell me, hey, go watch this show. It's amazing. No one did that to me. But if there was a show you would have had it. If Mario would have came and said, Pat, I'm telling you, you're going to love this show. Subscribe. I would have gone, like, okay, it's pretty cool. Did you have a cook? You never heard of Quibi. I didn't hear about it until this morning. Another point, another question. How many is an acceptable amount of streaming services

to have? Three. So check this out. Five, seven. If somebody has five, seven of these dudes, get a life, like, cancel, we're looking for more like Netflix. Look at this by the way.

Look at this by the way. Look at this by the way. So I ask, how many of you guys have subscribed to Quibi? Okay. No, not me. Never. No, never heard of it before. Okay, no, no, hell, no, nope, not me? Okay, no, not me never know never heard of it before okay? No, nope hell. No, nope, not me. No, no, not me. No, no, no, no, nothing good. Never heard about it. Never heard about it. No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

It's a bunch of no and some people that are even pissed off that we're talking about I think we watch this to death. Watch this here. Watch this here. I'm gonna give you a paycheck prepaid for two years. I'm gonna get it better, get the money. But you really, I'm gonna give you the craziest stat here, the craziest stat. They advertised during Oscars and they advertised during Super Bowl. They did a five and a half million dollar commercial during Super Bowl for Quibi. Afterwards, 70% of responders,

when they did their review on Quibi, you know what they thought Quibi was? They thought it was a food delivery service. Ah, I guess I'm Quibi over here. I'm sorry. Anyway, let's move on because Quibi, they got their asses on them. So rest in peace Quibi. For those of you that want us to talk more about Quibi, like if it's one of you guys out there, the rest of you guys are ready to move on. Okay. How about we talk about one of the most important events that took place yesterday with Amy Coney Barrett. Amy Coney Barrett gets sworn in and she's locked in as a third Supreme Court Justice 48

years old. First time a woman who's got kids going to school. She's got seven kids, but she's the first woman ever to have kids that are not out of school, the going to school. And she's now part of the Supreme Court justice, and she got sworn in yesterday. So what are your thoughts on this? Pre-elect. She was, she's got an incredible resume.

She conducted herself. She couldn't have done any better in those hearings, and I think she's going to make everyone proud, even the people that are pissed about her getting in. Adam. Yeah, obviously initially when she was nominated, there was a part of me that was like, that's not fair. What happened?

35 yard line of gear. There we go. This is maybe on the 30th now. But I'm going to go somewhere with this. But I'm going to go somewhere. Come with me now. Come with me now. Initially, because what happened under Obama's nominee,

Merrick Garland, there was a precedent set that in an election year, you can't nominate Supreme Court justice. I'm not getting political here. I'm just letting you know what happened in 2016. There we go. We obviously saw what happened with Neil Gorsik. He got selected the Supreme Court and then our friend, the guy that likes to drink beer,

what was his name, Brett Kavanaugh. There's nothing wrong with beer. I like to have a beer. Oh my gosh. Did you actually make that comment? Yeah. Oh, go ahead. I'm going somewhere. That's where you're going.

There we go. Give me a glass of soy milk, I'll have some fun and some beer. But here's my point with her. The left, or you left, he's out there, set her up to be some monster. We're gonna have this conservative on the Supreme Court. We can't have this happen. This is, it's the real reason. So then she shows up and she gets grilled by the Senate,

the Democrats. And here's this lady who's poised diplomatic, smart, professional. Doesn't necessarily commit to any particular answers. Very diplomat. Not to do it. They're not supposed to. Fair enough. And and this is sort of the problem with the left. And I was going somewhere with this is that not everybody's a crazy monster. You can't make a every person. Oh, this is gonna tip the core. This is every conservative. This is gonna ruin this. Rovers is way the help of Obamacare, the ACA, it's all going down. Here's a person by all accounts,

is doing everything the right way. And what she said yesterday was actually extremely professional. She said, I'm not gonna let my own opinions get in the way of doing my job. And that's all you need is someone on the Supreme Court, because in a case of people that all there don't know, Supreme Court is for how long?

For life. 30 years, 40 years. case of people that all there don't know, Supreme Court is for how long? For life. 30 years, 40 years. For life, baby, Ruth and Peter Ginsburg made, made it's almost 90. So in my opinion, it was the opinion on her was sort of a household card. She was built up to be this evil doer, but by all accounts, giving you complete down

the middle opinion seems very fair, very neutral. And let's see how good a bunch of interpreters interpret the Constitution like you're supposed to. When Obama was president and he first got elected and he started doing things the way he wanted to do them, he was a bit arrogant in saying, hey, look, elections have consequences. The election of putting the Republicans in charge of the Senate has consequences. And this is one of them. When Obama put in a sotomayor and Kagan, these are hardcore left judges. They've left every single time on every single

issue. They it's not about interpreting the Constitution. They just want to change the laws to fit their worldview. It would Republicans happy about it, we're conservatives happy about that. Of course they were not happy about it, but they, you know what, elections have consequences. He was able to put his judges in, had Hillary been elected, had Hillary been elected, we would have had three more left judges, and they would have not said, oh my god, this is horrible. It's seven to three, or sorry, it's a six to three or seven to two or whatever. They would have been fine with that.

Republicans would have been pissed whether they would have behaved like children. I don't think so. I mean, you look at Maisie Herono when she's interviewing Amy Coney Barrett in these hearings. I mean, these are high level hearings. This is the whole country's watching this. And she's asking Amy Coney Barrett, have you ever been... Have you ever been charged? It's a cell phone. Who would you want you ever been if you've been a challenge guys? It's his headphones, the cable.

Who would you want? Who's is it? Is it a biren? It's on your... It's on your... There we go. Has it ever been... Have you ever been accused of sexual harassment? Have you ever... Yeah, have you ever...

You know, it's ridiculous that she's asking... But if you're going to ask these questions now, it's the time. I know, but it's a ridiculous question. It's like, when did you stop beating your wife question? It's ridiculous. I mean, ask questions that matter. This is... I it mean obviously this woman had no skeletons in her closet

i mean did him easy her own expect her to say yeah i've been accused of sexual harassment numerous times and we come on it's just ridiculous i have a feeling that you're gonna like this lady but what are your thoughts on it can we find out what's going on here guys yeah i mean of course uh... you know a couple things i will say about this it's just mute them for a second uh second while we can figure out what's going on over here. So here's what I would say with Amy. Okay, so here's what I would say about Amy Coney Barrett.

So number one, is it on my end? Is it? I don't think it's on my end. Check now check not to see can't you come all right, so here's here's what people have to realize It's not moving right now. We're not moving guys. Just so you know, we're not like moving, doing anything. So I'm staying put right now to make sure nothing happens. So we're trying not to move a lot and try not to touch any of this stuff for now. So this is what I would say about Amy Coney Bird. Is it Byron?

Okay. Plug it in and plug it out and see what happens. So here's what I would say about Amy Coneybear. This is what I would say. Okay. So the part people have to realize is whether Trump gets elected or not. Forget about Trump getting elected. Say he doesn't say Biden gets elected.

Say Biden gets elected is not Trump regardless of it, right? This is six three and if you look at the timeline, okay, look at the timeline of how long these justices stay in, right? The highest one is William O'Douglas. He stayed in for 13,358 days. Each year has 365 days. If you do 365 times 10, it's what? Oh, 30. 3,600. This is nearly 40 years these guys stayed in. Right? We're not talking a little bit of time. By the way, there's nearly 22 that have stayed in more than 10,000 days. That's more than 30 years they stayed in. Clarence Thomas got in October 23rd of 91. October 23rd of 91 till today.

What is October 23rd of 91? That's how many years ago, 29 years ago, he's still in, right? I'm not a matter of fact, he's sworn in, yes, that's the correct, we're doing an entire thing. So if you look at the list here, and you go through them, even a John Paul Stevens, right? John Paul Stevens got sworn in December 1975.

You know, when he left June 29, 2010, 75 to 2010, 75 I wasn't born yet. You weren't born yet. 2010 is just 10 years ago. This is a long time for them to be put in. If, if, if I know the average amount of time, you can't really do the average amount of time. But if you look at the list here, here's what you're seeing. This is the list. Okay. How much they stayed in. All these guys are in the 10,000 club. These are the seventh. This is 20 years right here. If you look at anything here is 20 years, 40 of them is 20 years, and we've had 115 of that. They're certainly a move on the part of presidents to pick judges that fit their

ideology. But also, we're going to last a long time. You look at Sotomayor and Kagan, these are young women when they were put on. And they're gonna be on a long time, as well. Very long time. I mean, when you think back to that Thomas Herring, that was another disgrace. Do you remember any disgrace when RBG was nominated? No, I don't remember anything.

Do you remember a disgrace with the Republicans? What was the surprise? No, because there's, well, no, I'm not surprised. It's just the way they behave. It's just the way when the left doesn't get their way, they just, here's a question. Here's a question, though. Here's a question, though.

If you want to pull up the 60 minutes interview with Byron, you Dell, if you want to, I don't know, they have it. He doesn't have it. Don't worry about it. If you pull up the 60 minutes with By He doesn't have it. Don't worry about it. If you pull up the 60 minutes with, by, with, by Renu Del, 60 minutes with Biden, don't pull up the 60 minutes with Biden.

Not by Renu. I'm not going to be able to hear this now. No, no, no. Okay, so check this out. So this is actually a good question they asked him. So watch this. Here's his answer on packing a court. Okay, if you want to press play, raise the volume.

A commission of bipartisan commission. Can you hear it or no? I can't hear it. So he's got to be able to hear some scholars. So Democrats, Republicans, liberals, journalists, if not the crackly ones. And I will ask them to over 180 days come back to the beginning. Go back to the beginning so he can hear it as well.

Let's see what this does here. I don't hear any static now, but play it. If elected, what I will do is I'll put together a national commission. Listen, speed it up to 1.5. Scholars, constitutional scholars, Democrats, Republicans, liberal conservatives. And I will ask them to do over 180 days. Come back to me with recommendations just to how.

So this is what he's saying. So this is what he's saying. Scholars, left and right, come back to me over 180 days come back to me with recommendations as to how this is what he's saying Scalars left and right come back to me within 180 days of recommendations have you heard that script? I've heard it now 10 times. Yes scholars have debated and I've looked to see what recommendations that commission might make So you're telling us you're gonna study this issue about whether to pack the court No, whether there's a number of alternatives that are well-beyond-packed. This is a live ball. Oh, it is a live ball Oh, it is a live ball. We're it is a live ball. We're going to have to do that. And you're going to have to do that. Okay. As well. The last thing we need to do is turn the Supreme Court into just a political football, whoever has the most votes gets whatever they want. Presidents come and go Supreme Court justice. He's right about that.

100% by so positive. Okay. So if you want to pause it. So here's, here's what I notice. Even the left and the right says that the left didn't go after her hardcore the way they did against Kavanaugh. Okay, they didn't. So there's strategy no way in the world. No, not like Kavanaugh. Kavanaugh was a the worst ever, right? And if she'd been a male, they would have.

Discreet. This just tells you great choice for Trump on who he picked. Let's just give him credit. The fact that he chose somebody that you're gonna have a hard time going after somebody like this, seven kids, she's adopted, you know, good life, she's done the right things, you know, so he chose the right person, but here's a problem.

What happens when somebody stays quiet for too long? If an enemy is quiet for too long, what do you think about? They got something up their sleeves. They got something up their sleeves. They got something up their sleeves. Solomon will tell you, meaning, if they're disquiet and they're not even bringing us up and biting winds, get ready. Get ready to see what happens

because everything is, you know what six three is? I don't know, six three is like, Yeah, it is, but I understand that they're not, I mean, yes, the three are absolutely going to vote the way you know They're going to vote the six are not guaranteed. Let me ask you question out of the six you think four are going to go right every single time I'm at least four. Yeah, so what do you mean? So it's four three. I know, but it's not six three It doesn't matter, but you need fourth to be three Yeah, so you need four to be three. I got six of them chances are added to six at least four in the market. They worked that way. If you got four and the other two vote with the three,

then you got five four on the left. So they've done it. So they need five. So they've shown that they've shown they're trying to be a jack. So they need one to say no to do five four. They need one to say no to do five four. And understand that this whole thing, this is a cat mouse game.

RBG was up in years. RBG could have resigned during a long time. By making this seem a lot looser than it is. You're talking about the conservatives has six, left has three. And would anybody be complaining if it was the other way around? No, I'm not complaining or anything. What I'm trying to tell you is this is a massive victory for conservatives. It is, but understand there's a lot of people that had a say in this.

RBG had to say in this she could have resigned. And whatever you say in it, nobody's disagreeing what you're saying. If the left had it that way, they would have done a heartbeat and said the same lines that you're giving up right now. You know, elections have consequences. All I'm saying to you is, do you really think the left is going to sit there and not do anything about it? No, they're going to play the way they play.

What do you think they're going to do about it? They're going to pack the court. You think they're going to pack the court? Yes, they're going to pack the court. What's the chances of them packing a court in your opinion 80% 80% If you're watching this right now and you follow in this story with Amy What do you think the chances of the left packing a court? What are your thoughts if you're watching this right now? What are your thoughts if Biden gets elected if Biden gets elected? Well, they've come up with some excuse and the excuse the court the excuse will be some sort of diversity play

Exactly. I already heard Kamala Harris say that by the way. And the debate with Pence, I don't know if you caught that. So when you talk about packing the court, you know, number one, this is quite frankly a term that I've never even heard of until about six months ago. Is this something you've heard before? Has it hasn't been done in 150 years?

No. So people are acting like they're going to pack the court. They're going to pack the court. Oh my God. The court packing, buddy. Nobody's even brought this up. Ever. And then Kamala tries to define what packing the court means. True. In her vice presidential debate, she says, well, you know, let's talk. We want to talk about packing the court. Let's talk about packing the court. You appointed 50 just as judges. And none of them were black or no. Come on. It's not packing the court.

It's not that she left. And that's her telltale sign for potentially lying. Yeah. So, I mean, packing the court means increasing the number of justices. Okay. So, just so you know, most people are saying 90% 100% 1 million. Well, most people don't know. So, most people saying 100% a million percent, like, they don't know that.

That's their opinion. Congrats, Mausletov. That's their opinion. Congrats, Mausletov. That's your opinion. But the Volvo guy said 10,000 percent. Okay. Well, if he said 10,000 percent, random, uh, don't ever, by the way, Sid, Chauwa says 1% they're going to pack. Okay. Well, Sid Chauwa also doesn't know what's going on. And, uh, well, there, there, there, there, one, two, four, seven, no, a thousand, a trillion percent. Well, then Luke must be right. I mean, because Luke said it.

So if you're thinking about packing the core, what does that mean? One extra just justice? Just this. No, no, no. I mean, three extra just justice. I mean, five extra just. Yes.

Three to five extra just justice. It seems to be highly aggressive, even to put one extra, because it's been nine for how many years. A long time. But it's not sort of that as 150 years. So if you add one more than nine, and you make it ten, it's not gonna make it ten. You can just let them just come with me here.

You put one more, you haven't done that in 150 years. You put two more, they've never done that, right? So this is some serious stuff here. A kind of strategy, interesting how they're trying to shroud or not exactly say what they're going to do because their base wants them to pack the court. And so if they're afraid to say they're going to pack the court. There's no question about it. Right. But they're afraid to say that. Why are they afraid to say that? It was going to help them. Joe Biden energized the base. He's got sure before the election.

Yeah. Which is one week away, by the way, whoever's living under a rock said he'd give this answer. So what's he's going on now? I mean a third of the people that are going to vote. Correct, but I mean before Tuesday, so a week from Tuesday. Guys, make sure you get out there and vote. Nobody could vote till Tuesday, that would be before the election. The elections already started. We're voting for a vote now. Were you going somewhere? Were you saying that the fact that 150 years we've been at night, there's no way in the world they're going to pack the money? No, I'm just saying people are so convinced.

Everyone who's 100%, 100%. No, I don't, like at least Byron, it says, I think it's 80%. Okay, that's a high likelihood. Oh, I think 100% chance they'll try, whether they'll get it done, I don't know. Different. The question is from a campaign standpoint,

do you think this is a good idea for them to say, well, then to not say whether they're gonna pack the car? I, I, I, I,, should they come out and say it? No, because they, they're not going to be for it. They're, they're independent. Independence don't want them to pack the court. No way they don't. They don't want, they're independence are kind of like listen. So they're trying to couch it.

So they know their base knows what they're going to, but they're trying to fool the independent. They're not going to say it. They're not going to say it. So you think they're, they're, their, their rhetoric now is designed to basically sort of signal to their base that they're going to. What Biden said? What Biden said? That line Biden has said now a hundred times.

That's Obama speaking. That's not him speaking. We're going to bring attorneys from both sides to the aisle, conservatives and liberals. And we're going to sit there. And Obama ever say that. No, no, meaning he would Biden would never say something like that. That's a word that he got on a call with, Obama said, what do I say when they're asking me

a question like this? Well, here's how you answer it. We said, we're gonna get people from both sides in a room and see what decision we're gonna make. Biden would answer and like that. Biden will be looking at what a deer and head like. Absolutely not like that. So, well, Joe, but what I am saying to you,

here's the following. Remember, yesterday we're at dinner. Okay The person that we talked to was the average voter for her age, which is what I was totally for her age, right? Okay, she was 20 29. Yes 29 is how she was six one by the way Never played that one never played. I just I'm more of a highly disappointed or volleyball so she's from Michigan. Yeah, she went to school I said the one did you go from Fox to CNN? She said musical. When I went to music school, I smoked a lot of pot and I hung out with people that were, you know, telling me about. She said she met a lot of different types of people.

Taped with, you know, she said, we, you know, all the same. So, and then she said, it wasn't because of the weed though, but she, no, she talked about it. I'm just telling you what she said. So she went through all this stuff. And then if you remember, he brought up abortion. Okay. Oh, remember that. Yes, he went off to that and by the way, it was like, all right. So what do you think about abortion? The girls like, I'm just trying to take your order here, buddy. So the boss shows up and the boss is like, well, I heard a conversation guys are having

because you know, he's like, this is a brand employee, you know, she just started with us two weeks ago. We're all going to be talking about abortion. You know what she said? Here's the question by Renask. It's very important to hear what by Renask. By Renask, the question sets her, what do you think about abortion? And she said, I believe the woman should have the ability to choose what they want to

do with their body. Right. And he said, okay, at what point? At what point? At nine, you know, eight months, three weeks, she said, if the woman wants to do it, they should have the right to do it. So they're not alive yet. They're like, no, they are alive., they should have the right to do it. So they're not alive yet. They're like, no, they are alive.

They're just not born yet. Well, no, they're not born yet. And then you went all the way up to, what if the baby is born? And then they said, wanna, you know, and then you went to the Virginia politician, I think you were mentioned. Fourth term abortion, essentially.

Fourth term abortion is what you're talking about. And she said, well, I don't think that's right, but if the woman's got to have the right, right? This role versus weight, let me tell you, it is so scary for the left to get rid of that, that they will do anything in their power to make sure that never happens. And if it means, core packing, they're gonna do it.

How long have we had row versus, but how long have we had the freedom to choose for women when it comes onto abortion? 1973. So from 73 till today, what's 73 till today? Nearly 50 years we've had, right? 47 years. For 47 years, it's been accepted now. Meaning they're sitting there not having to worry about it. Liberals on the left. They're sitting there saying, you know, I don't have to worry about conservatives are saying, we've got to change this on, but liberals are like, dude, it's, it's in law. You can't do nothing about it, right?

It's officially at risk now. And this is a fight they're going to have to fight for 30 years. Do you really think for 30 years they're going to be okay with six three? I don't think so. I don't think so. So to me, when you're asking about court packing, it isn't just about court packing. It's about Rovers' weight. And Rovers' weight is going to go through them. It's not president, it's not Congress, it's about Roe versus Wade. And Roe versus Wade is going to go through them.

It's not president, it's not Congress, it's not Senate, it's Supreme Court of Justice. And these are the types of things that you're going to see them sitting around saying, what the hell can we do? He said, even Biden said, there are many different things to do. There are many different things that we could do. He talked about going beyond court packing. Exactly. So this is their words, Adam. So I know, you know, you're, you know, where you're coming from is we don't know for a fact is that 100% is a down, you're right. We don't know a thousand percent. What are they going to do? But when you're avoiding the one question where Mike Pence is like, is it fair to say, I think

it's important for us to know that she didn't answer the question and Kamala had the big smile on her face. So just so everybody knows she hasn't answered the question about court packing. And the moderator was changing it and then Kamala says, what, wait, wait, wait, wait. You want to talk about core packing? I've talked about core packing. Do you know how to 120 judges, not an African American? Bingo. You just said exactly your strategy. The strategy is racism. The strategy is going to be not enough African Americans to flex. No, it's not the flex. They revealed their strategy by not answering at your say. No, she gave the answer. She gave the answer. The diversity answer. The diversity answer. She gave it. And that's exactly going to be the strategy that I'm

not even sure that if this issue came up with the court as it stands right now, that it would be all that Roe v Wade would be overturned. I don't, I'm not sure. You're not sure. No, I'm not sure. No, I'm not sure. But maybe a concern of the injustices would say. Give me the over under. 50-50? Okay, that's a lot.

But it's not like it's a guarantee that this issue comes up, they're going to overturn Roe v. Wade. 50, you know what's 50-50? That's a lot. But you understand, even if they overturn Roe v. Wade, that does not make abortion illegal. You understand that? Do you think they should overturn Roe v. Wait? Doesn't matter what I think. No, but I mean, we're playing this game. Remember, that's not a top three issue for him. Yeah, it's not a top three issue for him. It's economy, foreign policy, and number three

was in all right. I check in amendment. Well, just because it's not a top three issue, doesn't mean you can't have it. Like, for instance, I believe in the woman's right to choose period and the story. So there's gonna be some conservators out there. How could you be a baby killer? Buh, buh, buh, buh, buh, buh. That's not what I said. The only issue with abortion is when life, when does human life begin?

And when do you believe it begins? I don't know when it begins. And so, I've had this argument many, many times with many people. I'm not hardcore on either side. I just believe that the only person, or the only person, that only God knows when life begins. Life may begin at conception. Do you know that it doesn't? No, we don't. I don't know.

You don't know. Only God knows that. If human life begins at conception, then the pro-lifers, it reasonably would think that abortion is the biggest Holocaust in the history of mankind. And I don't blame them for thinking that. Okay? So if life begins at conception, And I don't blame him for thinking that. Okay? So if life begins at conception, any abortion would be murder, and that's why people march about it and the pro-life crowd marches about it. And I understand that. And then the pro-choice crowd, I mean, they're arguing for more of this, the more of this

the better. They were in New York and they passed the law saying you could abort all the way up until the moment of birth. And they were literally cheering when that passed. That seems aggressive to me. Exactly. That's why I pushed the issue last night with people all saying, okay, at what point do you think it's okay?

The statistics, if you look it up, you can probably pull it up fairly quickly on abortion. In any case, just to the first 90 days is about 50-50, okay? That's where the country is. The minute you go beyond 90 days, it goes hard the other way. And most people are against it after. 50 to 80, 20 after. After, first nine days. Yeah, and you start going after the first trimester,

the vast majority of Americans are against it. And I think the Supreme Court justice is understand that. And I think that allowing abortion in the first trimester, I'm okay with that. I mean, do I like it? No, do I think we should do I like it? No, I do I think we should have less of it. Yes. Should it be used as birth control? Probably not. Should abortion be allowed for gender selection? Probably not. I mean, that seems kind of

sick. The problem is in my opinion, there's such a slippery slope. Any way you go, it's an impossible. I like to win. But for instance, I totally understand why people would not sympathize with. Are you okay with that? Are you okay the one day before live birth? No, that's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. You said, you said a woman's choice end of discussion period. It's not a woman.

Okay, first trimester, I'm with you on that. Okay, so first trimester, you think it's a woman's choice. Okay, fair enough. Let me take it the other way. Let me take it the other way now. You've ever been to DC in front of the White House and there's a million different people out there with all their different agendas. There's one guy out there, this particular day, abortion is murder, you can't abortion.

And I said, can I have a conversation with you? Sure, we'll have a conversation. If you try to change my opinion, I say, what happens if a 12 year old girl is raped by her uncle and she has to have the baby. Should she have to have the baby? Yes, she should have that baby. That's murder. If she kills the baby, I said she's a 12 year old girl.

We got raped by her uncle. These are all examples of societal compromises. Exactly. At that point, you're saying that abortion should not be legal. Are you freaking kidding me? So now that 12 year old girl has to carry that baby with her. You know what rest of her life? Totally. Totally. On that. No, very, very few. I would say it's such a small percentage. Yeah. I'm saying tiny, tiny percentage of the portion.

But there's that's the example. But this is the point with the slippery slope. Is there's no clear cut answer one way or another? That's when Barack Obama was running for office in Illinois. At the last second, the Republican candidate pulled out, and Alan Keyes came in. Remember Alan Keyes? Brilliant conservative, I don't know what happened to him, I kind of missed the guy, he was brilliant guy. And he was debating Obama,

and Obama was a bit arrogant because he knew he was gonna win, it was Illinois. Black guy. Yeah, Alan Keyes. Hardcore black conservative. And in their live debate that they had on television, the issue of abortion came up. And Alan Keyes stated a statistic

that actually blew my mind. He said, do you realize there are more black children aborted in this country than are born? That's well. What do you think about that? I mean, if that's accurate, that's pretty good. No, that is accurate. That status out there for you to be able to pull up.

And I've read that before as well. But what do you think about that? I was shocked by it. I was amazed. I'm thinking, oh my God, I mean, how could, and you understand the person that started planned parenthood who she was, right? Who was she? Margaret Sangerman.

This was one of the biggest racists that ever walked the face of the earth. She wanted to control the black population. And that's why she put all these clinics in these black neighborhoods. She wanted less black children to be born because in her opinion, less black children would mean less black people. And then they would thin out the population. I mean, it's a sick history of this. And you've seen all these videos of when they're trying to coach women to what to say, say, look, you're not supposed to get an abortion.

It's, you know, I'm five and a half months pregnant, they come and they have hidden cameras. And they say, well, you know, my husband wants a boy and it's a girl, so, you know, we want to, we want to abort and, well, you know, we can't do that for that reason. But here's what you say in order to get it. She's, they're coaching her how to, how to do it.

The whole thing just kind of just turns my stomach and then the sale of body parts and all that stuff. It's just kind of an nauseating to me. So, you, it's not an issue. I'm going to vote on because it's nothing I can do about it. I'm much more concerned about things that are going to affect my life. The economy, like you say, and um, but as a male, obviously, it's easy for us to say that. Of course, of course, but women have an opinion too on this thing. And, uh, undoubtedly women, I don't think the ability, I do not think that the legality of abortion in the first 90 days is truly in jeopardy. I really don't.

And I think that's fine. And I think most people are fine with that. Half the country is fine with that. Believe it or not. Only half people that are pro choice believe that 80% of the countries with them, that it should be the woman's choice forever and for at any point. And they're not. Only of the countries with them, that it should be the woman's choice forever and for at any point. And they're not, only half the countries with them. And that's where it's probably going to stay. But it's possible they might rule, they might roll back the ability to have discretionary abortions after 90 days.

Remember when Trump has asked his question and his first elect 2016 was being elected? And he said, no, and this is someone who more than likely was pro choice for the majority of his life and then kind of adapted to him. He did slip on that issue. Yeah. And then he kind of flipped on that cool whatever, but they said, well, what are you going to do? Well, you know, we're going to have to, he doesn't just make the loss. This is his opinion, Trump.

And he said, well, you know, they're going to have to be criminal ramifications. What kind of criminal? Now he was asked, when did you stop beating your wife question by a moderate? I remember that question. So so if he what he what the question was, if abortion became legal, what do you think the pet you know should there be penalties if people actually do it? He says, look, if people if that's the law and the laws broken, then there's going to be consequences. That's what he said. I mean, he was painted in a way so they could have a sound bite and we get, let me ask you a different question. Let me ask you a different question. Okay. So, I'm kind of worried that things are pretty quiet right now. Okay. Let me explain to where I'm going. This is quiet. This is very quiet to me. Yes, it's quiet. Let me explain

to you. Let me explain to what I think is going to happen next week, but I want to hear your thoughts, both of you. So in a week, less than a week, Tuesday, next Tuesday night, it's going to be the marathon. And you're going to go all night and you know, here's the thing. You got mail-in ballots, which still, you know, people coming and voting in person is crushing mail-in ballots. Mail-in ballots is not going the way they thought it was going to go. You know, we have more voter turnout right now than ever.

And people coming out and voting. But let's, let's go through all three cases. Let's go through all three cases. Okay. Number one, they announce Trump wins next Tuesday night. They announced because it's a landslide. Right. He does a, you know, Mondel Reagan type of deal and crushes Biden. Let's just say he wins. What happens if Biden wins? What happens if nobody wins and they delayed for one week?

What happens? Okay. So give me each of those situation. What happens with riots protesting civil war, potential for, you know, ramifications, or is it going to become people will get over it after a week? What's going to happen in any of those situations take place? I think if Trump wins the exact same thing that happened last time is going to happen. There's going to be, you know, not my president, people marching in the streets and all.

Worse or about the same? Probably worse. Probably worse. Probably worse. Probably worse. Probably. Unpacked. What does that mean? What does that mean? What does worse mean?

Worse means more violence than last time. More violence than this. Well, the people that are committing violence have been enabled by the violence takes place in the big cities. The big cities are run by Democrats. The Democrats have basically told their police force, stand down, let them do what they want, let them spit in your face, let them burn your police cars, let them throw Molotov cocktails into windows where babies could be sleeping and don't do anything about it. I'm certainly in Chicago that's just unbelievable. We have

a prosecutor who will not prosecute this. I mean, you know, the prosecutor, you, if you stole a pack of gum from a 7-11, you'd be in jail for 10 years, but these people can do whatever they want. And so they're completely emboldened-11, you'd be in jail for 10 years, but these people can do whatever they want. And so they're completely emboldened. And they've gone so far as to say, well, looting is reparations. And they've just made it about race. And when race is not even necessarily an issue, even this George Floyd thing, there's not anything.

Looting is reparation. You didn't hear that? In Chicago. I don't know if it was in Chicago. It was definitely some looters. I think it wasn't Chicago actually. Okay. They were talking about looting. So you're saying, it was definitely some looters. I think it wasn't Chicago actually. They were talking about looters. So you were saying,

it's gonna be worse. I think it's gonna be worse. And you know, this is their fight. And you've got a lot of people out of work. They've got time. They go out in the street. Some of them are actually hired. They're professional protesters.

Their friend of mine was, he was on vacation one time. He was telling me he was at, he was sitting in a pool. He was talking to some woman. And what do you do? She says, I'm a professional, you know, rebel rouser, protester, you know, and how much she makes money. She was making good money. There's people that actually

have the payroll to go and just, you know, they fly them into these very professional rebel rousers. Well, you know, protester, rioter, whatever you want to call it and, you know, to say that this stuff is peaceful as the stuff is burning in the background, mostly peaceful protest, whatever. It is what it is. the stuff is burning in the background. Mostly peaceful protests, whatever. It is what it is. The problem is that somebody needs to bring law and order back onto our streets. It isn't going to be the democratic mayors. They're not going to do it.

So I don't know how that how order comes. I think there's going to be a lot of violence. What if Biden wins? Maybe the same because they've been emboldened. Now they're thinking that will now. Well, they're going to be so trying to describe. I'm not sure. Jubilee celebration like the Lakers winning flipping cars.

That's right. Yeah, like that. Yeah. Okay. So, so Biden wins, not as bad as Trump winning. And it's going to be a little bit more a comma, but what if neither wins and they go into re-crab battle? No, yeah, 32

days, alcohol, type of situation, don't be people on both sides, probably marching and saying, Hey, you know, you know, we want our guy to win. They're going to do whatever they can. Which one's going to cause the biggest havoc, trump winning, Biden winning or undecided? It's really tough to say. It's really tough. Okay. What do you say, Adam? So, one thing that, like we talked about this at dinner last night, this is a, you know, very emotional situation. Not a lot of logic going on, especially right now.

Sure, some people are thinking with their heads, cooler heads prevail. Is it a very emotional situation? I want my candidate, I want my candidate, I don't care. But yeah, I hate the other side, I hate the other side, it's cool to screw that. A lot of emotions running very high for sure. Well, can we agree on that? Absolutely. Clearly. I happen to think that there will be no clear winner on election night.

I think the least according to the polls, and I know that people out there can't believe the polls in no way. Can we believe the polls? I happen to people out there can't believe the polls in no way can we believe the polls. I happen to be one of those people who finds the polls to be at least somewhat credible. It's definitely not 100% accuracy, but at least some sort of guide. What the guide basically says is this is likely to be drawn out for at least a handful of days, potentially a few weeks. I think it is incumbent on the media, on the media. What kind of that weather?

Whether you're on the left, you're on the right, you want Trump, you want Biden, don't give a shit to inform your listeners, guys, this is going to take some time. Let the system play out. Let's all calm the temperatures, and I think that amount of time, at least will it start to inform people,

look, this is how this process works. I was in Tallahassee at Florida State University in 2000. And what happened in Tallahassee in 2000 that was Goreverse Bush had happened right there. We were going to college at that point. I was a junior in college. I remember news, news every single day, every single day, every after a month of it, we're just like, all right, like can we get this freaking show on the road? Can they pick a winner already? And it kind of took it, played it out, played its course, obviously, Bush won the election.

So what's my point? You asked what are the three, what are the three options? I think number one of Trump wins, people are going to go fucking insane on the left. Fucking insane. What do you mean? Everything we've been seeing for the last worse? Yes. Yes. I think they're rational. They're rational. We'll be what? Again, high on emotion, not a lot of logic. So if Trump legitimately wins, keyword, they're legitimately, the country's spoken two years in a row. I mean, what else could you say? You hate the guy, he sucks, he's an orange animal, he's an asshole, cool. I get it, I get it, I get it. But the guy has one, two elections in a row. On the flip side, whether you love Trump

or you don't love Trump, one thing that has been undeniable, he has never had over a 50% approval rating. Let me say that again, he has never had over a 50% approval rating. Okay, so no president has, and I think has won the election twice, back to back, without a 50% of it. So if he loses, people have to understand, yeah, Joe Biden might be one of the worst candidates we've seen in modern American politics, but that's a function of he beat also someone who is not very highly approved. Okay, it doesn't

have high approval ratings. So again, I don't think Biden's going to blow him out. And I definitely don't think that as the numbers show that Trump is going to blow him out. I definitely don't think that as the number show, the Trump is going to blow him out. I think this is going to be something that's going to take a few weeks. And as much as the media has been following, it's what happens. Obviously, there's going to be some mega people out there. They're going to be highly, highly disappointed. You think mega people will riot and protest? No.

Yes. You think that? I think there will be a percentage of the people that will not be happy. You think they're just going to say, well, I guess, I guess Biden won. The bigger question is not so much the mega people. The bigger question is, do you think Trump is going to say, well, I lost 330 to 220 electoral college. I clearly lost.

And it's time for me to leave office willingly. Do you actually think Trump will do that? No problem. Yes. You think Trump is just going to leave office, I lost the election. Thanks guys, I'm going to go back to it. It's fair and square, he'll leave. Straight up.

Yep. You don't think he's going to say it was mail-in ballots, it was fraud, you don't see that at all, Byron? No. Really? If there was mail-in ballots, it was fraud. If there was fraud, he may point it out. Okay. I'm telling you, if he gets blown out, loses 40 out of 5. He leaves without any issue. Correct. I just don't see Trump. He's not that kind of guy. What do you think? So what if what if it drags out? What if it

drags out a week? Anything happens or no? I think there's going to be chaos in the streets for a week of those three is going to create the highest level of chaos. Trump winning, dragon out or Biden winning. In my opinion, I think if Trump wins, the people on the left are going to lose their flipping mind. Okay, Kai, you were going to say something. The only thing I was going to say was I think regarding if there's going to be protests with Trump, if he doesn't win, I think that kind of goes back to depends on how he's reacting. If he's egging a maggot crowd on, then obviously they're gonna do is told almost.

Meaning instigating. Yeah, if he's instigating, oh, this is this, this is this, then I can see it being like, oh, you need to go do this or protest that. He's unfiltered, but he's not stupid. No, no, I'm not saying. There's no end game to that. If he thinks that just doing that

just gonna cause a bunch of violence, why would he do that? How? How is he gonna win? How's evidence? How's that a winning game? What evidence have we've seen? We've only seen evidence of sore losing on the left.

We haven't seen it on the right. We haven't seen sore winning on the right. On Trump's side. On Trump's side. Do you see any riots? What evidence do we have of Trump saying? You know what guys? Thank you for the opportunity to be president. It's been an honor to serve as your president for the last four years.

Clearly you guys have selected Joe Biden to be your president. He's won the election. And that's it for me. I'm a large, yes. So probably he's actually going to do that by. I probably get a few digs in, but yes, by and large, that's what's going to happen. If Biden, you have a higher view of how Trump will respond to this than a lot of people, I will tell you. I think he's going to be salty a F. I think he's going to say that it's

fraud. I think this is why you hear on the left. We can't just win by two or three points. We need to win by 10 points because in a lot of leftist opinions, so they think Trump is going to be a sore loser. How much you think voter fraud is going to take into account? I mean, you think there's going to be a lot of voter fraud. There's going to be, there is already has been voter fraud. I'm sure. You think they're going to get caught? You think

there's going to be, you know, where it's going to be lawsuits and there might be. What precedent do we have for a video? What history do we have if anybody being a sore loser ever beside? What history do we have ever having a president like Trump? I mean talk about sore losing. Watch this 24 second video. Watch this 24, by the way. It's got 7.8 million views on less than 24 hours. We're in a situation where we have put together and you guys did it for our admins,

the President Obama's administration before this. We have put together, I think, the most extensive and inclusive voter fraud organization in the history of American politics. Secondly, what do you think he meant by that? What do you do legitimately? Don't be political here go go back yeah see some ridiculous shit some time go back from 12 seconds go press play we have put together I think the most extensive and inclusive voter fraud organization in the history of American politics. Second. So first of all, what the hell are you saying?

Like, you know, you got to pick and choose your words, what you're saying. And guy running for office and we put together greatest voter, you know, organization, the most fraud organization. What is he saying now? He probably meant to say. And this is, welcome to John Biden's world.

Fraud prevention. Fraud prevention, election protection. Go ahead, election protection. Go ahead, protect him. Okay. So do you actually think he came out there? He says, guys, we did it. We're gonna full on.

We got the vote of fraud committee. Where it's going down. It's happening on Tuesday. The media doesn't send it. Not seriously. You know, what do you think he meant, Byron? Be apolitical for one second. I think he probably meant to say the opposite.

Okay. Pat, what do you think? Be apolitical for a second. You can still make fun of Joe and call him a crazy dementia sleepy Joe, but what do you actually think he meant? I actually think, you know, here's a problem. I'll tell you what the problem is. When Hillary was running, Hillary thought 100%,

she's gonna win. She acted like she was a president two years before she even was, you know, when Hillary. She was like, it was no question. I don't even need to campaign. I'm gonna be the president because every single media's on my side, everybody's on my side,

there's no way in the world I'm gonna lose this, right? Obama was unlike that. Obama was fighting. Obama was paranoid, right? You know how Biden talks right now? Biden talks as if he's already the president. Biden talks as if he can get away with anything. Biden for 47 years has been able to get all these, if any of these laptop deals with Tony guy coming out, if any of this stuff is true for 47 years, this guy's been doing deals and getting away with it, you have to realize it gets to a point where in the mob,

if you're untouchable, they call you untouchable, you don't think you can be touched. So you say, and you feel you can get up there and say anything, nothing's gonna happen to you. Nothing's gonna happen to you. When you have that kind of a mindset, you don't really care what you're gonna say. So I don't know what he means by this.

Could he be said voter prevention, fraud prevention? Maybe that's what he's talking about. Is he trying to say we have the best voter fraud team put together? Maybe that's what he's talking about. Is he trying to say we have the best voter fraud team put together? Maybe that's what he's talking about. You actually think that's what he meant? I don't know what he's talking about because I don't think he has a good filtering system.

You know right before you're about to say something and you're gonna say, so how do I look? Well, you kind of look fat, you know? And then people who have common sense are like, first answer comes up, you kind of look fat. You look great, you know? You look good. All right, so you need to have a answer comes up. You kind of look fat. You look great You know, you're good, you know, so I You have a big this way, but look big. Yes, you got a fat ass girl. No. Yeah, no, you look great

Right, so so you know, you know how do I do you know in our business when people go give up Give a speech and they get off the stage and they say so how do I do like shitty is Talked about my life and they say dude you did good man good stuff Yeah, yeah, awesome. good, man. Good stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Awesome, thanks. Thanks for that. So I don't think he was gifted with that filter.

Yeah. Okay. That makes any sense. Joe, Joe said his foot in his mouth for 47 years. I'm gonna respond to that. You just let me respond to that. Number one, you're absolutely right that Obama had to work his ass off.

Because he didn't have the entitlement issue. We came out of nowhere excuse me to play it's a point of the have the intent of the talking about meaning he didn't come from the uh... forty seven years in politics he didn't come from one-time dynasty he was coming from the clinton dynasty he came to the minute he made his speech in two thousand four they knew they

were going to try to make him president he was anointed. Okay, anointed, sure. But he still fell in love with him. Okay, granted. He still had to win though. He still had to work his ass off. He wasn't like, I am King Obama.

He still had to go through, he had to go through the, come on, campaign. Yeah, the campaign is ass off. He was not anointed. He had to work his ass off. Okay, Hillary Clinton on the other hand, totally agree with pat she was the first lady

senator you know uh... waiting for her coronation exact secretary of state she's running against this fool that she called him bill bursett she looks like a real estate agent i don't trust her you know so granted that's clearly now with biden i don't think he has the confidence by any stretch

to think that he's going to be anointed but whether you love Biden or hate Biden and I don't know a lot of people that love him I think there's a lot of people that don't like Trump the one thing that him and Trump have in common and this is this is true to Trump for sure and for some reason true for Biden is they are Teflon not a lot of things stick like after the grab them by the pussy thing and Trump became the president, clearly they're like, you know what, we're good with it.

It's okay, the racism stuff, the odd dispassing out thing, the Mexicans are rapists, people are like, you know what? But it never goes away. The media, it's Trump is running against Biden campaign and he's running against the media. The media is there protecting and supporting Biden every step of the way. Well, 80 and 90 percent of the media journalists would have you 95 percent vote Democrat. Sure.

Granted. But what we can't establish is Donald Trump does have a Teflon quality about him. Yeah. And somewhat nothing like Bill Clinton had. Bill Clinton has the best. But even Joe, even sleepyy Joe, crazy Joe, whatever you wanna call him, dementia Joe has some sort of Teflon,

or this would have been a blowout race already. That's some kind of, he doesn't know. Yeah, the Teflon is the media. So, okay, a question for you. You're so funny. Did you actually say Biden's got the Teflon out there? Let me ask you a question, because we're gonna revisit this in one week.

If Biden happens to win this race, race somehow somehow Will you at least be willing to admit that he's got a Teflon quality about it? I wouldn't give you that even if he wins even if you win he has Teflon quality even if he wins Pat He has Teflon quality if he wins clearly got something you have to do with Teflon What what is winning have to do with Teflon if if Trump lost, would we be calling him Teflon Don? No. What I'm trying to exactly, you got to win in order to be Teflon.

No, it's got nothing to do with Teflon Don. Who was the original Teflon Don? It's got to do with Gadi. Yeah. Okay. Because nothing could ever stick to the guy, right? Okay, so what's your point? The same thing with Trump.

No, Biden's not the one. Biden's not a Teflon. Biden doesn't qualify to be in the Teflon. If you win the presidency, how could you not say that? Biden qualifies for absolute perfect timing to be a candidate that could potentially be a president. And no other lifetime would this guy have had a chance to be a president except today. Because of coronavirus, because of what's going on with the pandemic, because of how that

was used to shut down so many different states and show riots and show protesting to show America's and Have it, you know problems everyone's all because of Trump It's all because of Trump It's all because of Trump if you notice during gobama. We didn't have rights like this We didn't have rights like this Well most of the writers are on which side on the left side so they're going against Trump Rights don't write the way left's right. Left's right, a whole different way than rights right.

So if you go breaking that part down, he got pressed, if he was president, it's because of timing. It's got nothing to do with him being done. Time to end the media's cooperation. Time, okay, I do agree with you on timing. However, if this were Bernie Sanders running against Trump right now, I think Bernie would be ahead in the polls.

Do you think Bernie would have a better chance than Biden? Speaking of timing. I think Bernie would have a better chance than Biden. Do you think Elizabeth Warren? Do you think whoever would be... Not Warren. ...who would be... Not Warren.

But Bernie would have a better chance. I think Bernie and Pete as well, by the way. Pete to me is... Do you think Pete could be Trump? No, wait! I think Pete to me is a better on TV candidate, debate, poise, going back and forth, being able to have that fight, I think Pete is 10 times better than Biden in that area.

No doubt. No doubt. Wait, see that area. Yeah, no doubt. You're not at the same league. Do you understand, and again, this is my call to ruffle some feathers, all you have to do is put a picture, and you know Trump would do this cause to ruffle some feathers all you have to do is put a picture and you know trump would do this so i'm saying what all you have to do is

picture him and melania first lady and peaton chasden that's your first lady take your pick guys you don't think you would throw that out there into the atmosphere for your pick yeah done pizdon i don't know man you know you're're vote for Pete. The whole diversity thing is something the country. I mean Obama got elected the first time largely because a huge swath of the country wanted to prove that they weren't racist. There's no question. No

chance he could have gotten elected if he wasn't black. Not a chance in a million. Not with that resume. Not a chance. What did he do? He elected if he wasn't black. Not a chance in a million. Not with that resume. Not a chance. What did he do? He had done nothing. Absolutely nothing. So you need to have an immaculate resume. You have a decent resume.

You have to have done something typically. You have to have done something typically. It was a governor. It was a governor. It was a governor. Obama was a senator. Is that much of a senator for 20 minutes? For 20 minutes.

Major, president. Wait, wait, wait, wait. Please answer the question for him. Is there a major difference between being a senator and a governor? Huge difference. Tell them, tell them, please, tell them. You understand the difference.

Senators don't do anything. They just show up, maybe. They vote yes or no. They don't have to. They don't have to do anything. Governors are running things. They actually running a state. They're running a government.

They're doing something. And in fact, there hadn't been a senator elected since Kennedy. Okay, I mean, it's always a governor. Someone who's actually done something and run something with a proven track record of having a staff and having a payroll and having to be responsible for a budget senator's responsible for almost nothing.

Who's the first person you voted for? Jimmy Carter. Was Jimmy Carter a governor? Yes, he was. What was his governor of Georgia? Yes, sir. Okay, all right. So I stand corrected. Jimmy. Yes, he was. He was a governor of Georgia? Yes, sir. Okay.

All right. So I stand corrected. Yeah. All right. I'm willing to admit. I'm willing to admit. I'm willing to admit. Reagan was a governor.

Yes. Was George H.W. Bush a governor? Yes. He was. Yes. Okay. Was Bill Clinton a governor? Yes.

Yes. He was Arkansas. Was Obama a governor? No, no, one term sentence. Exactly, one term sentence. And he had never sponsored. And that's my point, guys. He had never written or sponsored any legislation when he was in Illinois. He voted present like 400 and something times. He didn't want to actually, he was basically

setting the table for this the whole time. So no one could say, well, you voted for a bill that said this that or the other, because all these bills are never clean. They're never like, hey, it's just one issue bill. There's a bunch of... You're from Chicago though. So you've been watching clean. They're never like, hey, it's just one issue bill. There's a bunch of Chicago though. So you've been watching Obama for years. So you know what's going on with this guy.

There's no more tough one than that guy. Okay. Are you a Obama fan or no? No. You're not Obama fan. No, never liked him. I was thought he was fraudulent. His true ideology.

Fraudually? Yes, true ideology. He tried to hide it. It came out a few times with Joe the Plumber and a few other things. You didn't build that and you know, cling to your guns and religion and all that when he was on when he thought he was unplugged it came out but by and large he was able to hide it what do you think try to make make himself look centrist what do you think was fraudulent about a lot of he didn't disclose his true ideology what was that. You think he's a communist?

Communism, yes. That's what he wanted to fundamentally transform our country when, by and large, most of the country did not want to be fundamentally transformed. And what evidence do we have to make a statement to say communist? What evidence do we have of communist? Did you watch the movie 2016 Obama's America? Have you seen that? No, I have not. I have not.

I have not. I just said, I'd rather take the cliff notes. Well, whatever it is that we have, that there's, but he was a communist part. I've got his book in his own words. The Communist manifesto, what was that? No, not that book, but his father. Yeah, yeah, dreams of my father.

Okay. I narrated it in his own voice, and I'm looking at eight years of presidency. What do we have that's- Well, he didn't govern that that way because he was afraid to. He didn't think he could get it passed. He was afraid to get thrown. So I'm going on him being a president for eight years.

I didn't look at him and be like, there's my communist president. If he, if he to govern that way in the first four years, he would never have been elected. OK. In the second four years, he didn't have control of the House and the Senate like he did in the first four years.

The first two years. First two years, he had a speculating that he was gone. No question. He was pragmatic about how he was going the first four years. The first two years. First two years he had a... He was speculating that he was going to... Oh, there's no question. He was pragmatic about how he was going to advance his agenda. He did as much as he thought he could. Communism? Obama? Are you agree with Byron?

Well, I mean, his father was a communist. His stepfather or the guy that his mother put into be his... Just because you're a father. Just because your family... But he had to be very open that his mom was a communist. But he was writing a book about it. He was trying to live life in the dreams of his father. I mean, there's no question that he... their family, but he had this very open that his mom was a communist. Right. He writes a book about it. He was trying to live life in the dreams of his father.

I mean, there's no question that he, when I was in college, I hung out with all the radicals, blah, blah. I mean, everything he said, everything he did, I mean, he hung out in a church with Reverend Wright for years and years and years who was his mentor who married him. This guy is known for saying, God damn America. And Bob Ama's like, oh, I didn't know he said stuff like that.

I mean, just complete. Talk about tough. The media never took him to test. I don't know about kindness. I do put about socialist. And I do put about him not loving America of what America was founded on. He may have loved the America

that he wanted to turn America into. I agree. But I don't know about communist. I would say socialist, yes. And I would say he didn't love the America under foundations who was founded on. But why don't we go and put a need a need a young on his cabinet, Anita, is Anita young? Is that her name? I need a done. I need to done. This woman was her, she, they asked her who her idols were. She says I have two idols in the world. Mother Teresa and Mousetun. This is a

woman that he put on his cabinet. He put on that guy Vince, whatever, the guy that... Van Jones. Van Jones, Van Jones. This guy was a card carrying communist for much of it. I mean, he was. These were two people on his cabinet.

Was it a week or two, he was like gone. I'm just saying, he put two people that were known communist, you know, ideologues on his cabinet. I mean, how do you do that? You don't know that that's what they are? Do you watch Van Jones on CNN? Yeah. Do you appreciate his opinion? I like Van Jones. He's come around a little bit. I like Van Jones. I actually find him to be highly credible.

When in 2016, when Trump won, he was actually one of the first people to come out and say, look, guys, we didn't get it. I wasn't a, you know, we called this wrong. I'm willing to admit, he's my president. Like, I respect his opinion. Do I agree with this opinion all the time? I think it's a very smart, talented guy. No, again, I gave you my positions on Obama, and how I viewed Obama. It's very simple how I view who he was and what he did. Very simple on who he was and what he did.

Can you play the 60 minutes with Trump? I got 70 million views more than Oscars and apparently any other sports shows watch this year. Go all the way to the back and do me favor put it at Put it at 1.5. Yeah, put out 1.5. Go ahead Do you think that your tweets and your name calling are turning people off? No, I think I wouldn't be here if I didn't have social media But the media is fake and frankly if I didn't have social media I'd have no way of getting out of my voice.

You know what you told me a long time ago when I asked why you keep saying fake media. You said to me, I say that because I need to discredit you so that when you say negative things about me, no one will believe. I don't have to discredit you. But that's what you told me. You discredited yourself. You know, I didn't want to have this kind of angry. Of course you did.

No, I didn't. Well, then you brought up a lot of subjects that were improperly brought up. Well, I said I'm going to ask you tough questions. They were inappropriate. But right from the beginning, not your first question was this is going to be tough questions. You don't ask Joe Biden. I saw your interviewer Joe, the interviewer. I never did a Joe Biden. It was a joke. The interview. 60 minutes. I see Joe Biden giving softball after softball. I've seen all of his interviews. He's never been asked a question. It's hard. Okay, but forget him from your president. No, but you start with me. You're president. Excuse me, Leslie, you started with me.

Your first statement was, are you ready for tough questions? Are you? That's no way to talk. It's hard. But forget him from me. You're a president. You're a president. Excuse me, Leslie, you started with me. Your first statement was, are you ready for tough questions? Are you? It's no way to talk. It's no way to talk. At this point, one of our producers interrupted to advise about the time remaining in the interview. I think we have enough of an interview here, hope. Okay, that's enough.

Let's go. Hope, hope it was an award. Let's go meet for two seconds. Okay. Thanks. I'll see you in a little. Well, Leslie was visibly rattled there. Be careful. That was professionally embarrassing, but I'll tell you, he did a huge favor for 60 minutes because of the ratings.

He thinks he was hurting them, but he just did a huge favor. So, so, so who looked bad there, Adam? Who looked bad? The they're saying Trump walked off after doing a 37 minute, 38 minute interview with them. Did the Trump walk off with five minutes left? Is it a full on walk off with that? I don't think he walked stormed off. He let's do that. That's what they said. I don't think it's anything like that. I think obviously he got frustrated with the tough questions. Her first question was there there's gonna be some tough questions. And you know what? He needs to have some tough questions.

I have no problem, I'll say. At least she didn't answer that. He's been the president for the last four years. We're here to care about tough questions. Okay, so what's the upset about tough questions? On our terms, I would be upset if you're not asking the other guy tough questions. I would be very annoyed of that.

Okay, but you didn't do the interview. So she's getting, did she? She represents 60 minutes. So 60 minutes is the brand. It doesn't matter 60 minutes. Well, 60 minutes is the brand. It doesn't matter what it is. If 60 minutes is the brand, why are you asking the other guy, the easy questions, you're asking me the tough questions.

So if that interview already happened and he already quote unquote, didn't, 60 minutes as the brand didn't ask Joe Biden the tough questions, why would Trump agree to this interview? Meaning, you, so he just did the interview in order. How did he agree to this interview? Meaning, you, so he just did the interview in order. I did the agree to the interview. Meaning he did the interview to complain about the Joe Biden interview. So he kind of knew what he was going to say already. Have you watched a whole interview? Yeah. Did you watch the Facebook video? He posted not the 60

minutes. Oh, yeah. That's actually what I watched. That's what you watch. If you remember when he said, you called me, you said, you want to have a nice interview. That's what you remember when he said that in the in the 60 minute, 38 minutes. Sure. Yes. He said, you called me, you said, you want to have a nice interview. That's what you remember when he said that in the 60-minute, 38 minutes. Sure, yes. He said, you called me, say, let's have a nice interview. I agreed to it. I come.

Then you say, you ready for some tough questions? That's flip-floppin' on what you position me. I agreed to do an interview, you said, nice interview, now you're flipping and give me tough questions. So, does 60 minutes came out? Why can't he ask them to submit the questions ahead of time? I know that's not Trump's thing. I don't do that.

But if you're saying you're gonna have a, they don't do that. Listen, we're in the middle of pandemic. And the economy is, I suspect they might have done it if it's bothering. Let me put it in many senses. You don't think he should get some tough questions? Of course he should.

You think you should just have it here? No, I'll have a lot of tough questions. Everything's going great in the world here. You're saying he cares if you ask him tough questions. Well clearly he does. He doesn't care if you ask him tough questions. I just think he doesn't like when you don't say nice things about it. There's no question he's thin skin but he doesn't care about tough

questions. What he cares about is unfair questions. What I'm pretty sure about you Byron. What I actually do is you're clearly a policy guy because you're willing to look past and admit Trump's shortcomings. Sure. You've said many times, he's thin-skinned, he's not, you know, it doesn't have the temperament. You've said certain things that made me believe like, you know what?

Byron actually will call a spade a spade, but at the same time, you're not willing, at the same time, you're willing to look past the emotional triggers and both of them. When the guy has publicly stated and disavowed white supremacy and racism in all its forms numerous times and he's continually asked that same question, which thankfully she's an ass because he would have walked out on that one for sure. It was it's absurd. It's just absurd. It's like when did you stop beating your wife?

When did you stop beating your wife? When did you stop beating your wife? Eventually people think, well, this guy must have been beating his wife. No matter how he answers the question, that's just ridiculous. That's debatable though on the biggest the world the biggest stage of the world he could have said yeah he could have handled it better yes asked to even ask the question was just

fundamentally ridiculous yeah so who does a benefit who who does him getting seventy million views benefit sixty minutes i think that sixty minutes helped help to help to agree as well i agree as well i think he handled so far and now you the fact that he shared it what do you think about the fact that he shared it before sixty minutes launch it uh... i think it just brought more attention to an interview you think he think he did well with yeah i'm good with that as well

you the question is does the how does this sway sixty minutes broadcast move more votes to Trump or Biden yeah yeah we're the beauty is we'll see in a week I who knows what this interview did no no question about it we're gonna see in a week and viewers are hard lefties you know that right hard hard left nor what is hard lefty just they just they they're that's their ideology and everything their socialists are calm what Hard, hard left, what is hard lefty? They just, BLM and Tifa, all that stuff. Yep.

That's hard left. Yeah, I think so. Okay. Any difference? And they view every single question with erasional lens, like Kamala Harris does. Everything's about race. Exactly what would make that man turn over in his grave. MLK. Yes. I mean, he said, look, let's judge each other based on the content of our character, not the color of our skin. And now everything's about the color of your skin. I have no idea how you could have a bunch of people saying there's no such thing as gender. Gender doesn't exist, but we must have a woman president or we must have a, we must have a woman of color as vice-bank. Who cares what her color is? I don't care what her color is. I didn't care what Obama's is color was it's all about policy for me

uh... but if you're watching this if you're enjoying uh... my good friend byron you del his perspective and his method of communicating the message to the rest of us press the thumbs up button and click on the subscribe button byron you del uh... with his point of view one of my to get a guy now you're gonna get a yeah because they they like you so one of my favorite guys. No, you're not gonna get it, because they like you. It's one of my favorite guys to sit down and have dinner with. Conversations always interesting when you're talking to,

especially when we went to Denver, that one time Colorado. We had a phenomenal attempt, three days at your Breckenridge House, but why don't we talk about Proposition 22, California, Uber and Lyft? Let's talk about Proposition 22. If you've been following this Prop 22,

it's getting very, very ugly with Prop 22. So court ruling could kill Uber and Lyft in California. Just days before California themselves were set to decide on a matter, a state appeals court has ruled the app-based right-sharing companies Uber and Lyft must apply with state laws, AB5 and classified all the drivers as employees rather than contractors. The ruling raises the possibility that the companies will simply and operations in the state altogether, both having stated previously that their business model depends on the flexibility of using contractors.

The company's claim and drivers often confirm that the flexibility contract work is key to their operation. Employers are required under federal and state law to schedule and track their employees hours for overtime, unemployment and other purposes. That's not the case with contractors who are legally considered independent businesses. Critics of the right sharing companies such as California governor, Kevin Newsom claims that's just a dodge to get out of pain. Over time and complying with other workplace regulations, labor union have pushed forward

the drivers to be classified as employees since contractors cannot join unions, thoughts. I got a bunch of thoughts on this one. First of all, I can't imagine how you could classify them as employees when they're actually working for their competitor at the same time. What company would allow you to work? If you're working for Uber, how could you work for Lyft at the same time? That makes absolutely no sense.

Number two, they don't use any equipment. The company does not provide them with any, they don't provide them with their car, so they're using their own car. They work whatever hours they want. Compare this to eBay. My son used to, one of his early businesses, and you know Jake, he's, he was a brilliant guy.

Yeah, I mean, just a total beast, been an entrepreneur since he was six years old, buying and selling stuff, but he got on eBay and he was selling, he had creating and selling sports memorabilia, he'd chase around the teams, he'd get magic chasin' to sign a basketball, he'd put it on eBay the next day and make money.

And do you think that people who buy and sell things on eBay that are using eBay's platform to find customers? Do you think those people are eBay employees? They work as much as they want or as little as they want? It's a very, very similar. All Uber and Lyft are doing is very good point. It's very analogous to that. And so, to me, all they're doing is using the platform to find customers. Okay, it's putting customers and drivers together, and they're taking

a commission. Exactly what eBay does. It puts buyers and sellers together, takes a commission. Could you imagine California saying anybody that sells anything on eBay must track their hours and Whatever money they make if they work overtime They're gonna get paid overtime on the profit or lost that I mean it's insanity Absolute insanity and I got to think the vast majority of Californians are gonna vote in a manner that's going to allow them to be independent Contractors not employees the There's probably some tax reason that California wants it and I'm sure why labor unions want it because if they become employees, then they'll be

able to get, you know, force them to pay union dues because California is not a right to work state. So everybody's got their acts, you know, they're, they're, they're, they're horse in this race. But the vast majority of Californians will lose if, because honestly, if they're employees, I don't think the model works at all. And so they may just pull out of the state which they've threatened to do last time they lost that court case a few months ago.

In fact, I was actually arriving in California wondering where I was going to be able to get an Uber or a lift. They just redid where you pick it up in LAX. If you've been to LAX since they redid it, you can't get it right outside, it's terminal anymore. You got to take a bus to an area. It actually works pretty well. I was actually surprised, but this is a huge, big deal.

What's unclear about this particular article is whether or not this court case coming just a few days before the election affects whether if the people vote to allow them to be independent contractors, whether that vote matters. Does this court case sort of circumvent the vote or is this the vote still going to be what decides whether these people get to be contractors or not? Do we know? No, very interesting perspective, especially on how you can be employee for lift and Uber because I don't know if you know this obviously Pat and a lot of people know this. I don't have a car. I Uber and lift everywhere. I was living down. So does my son Jake sold his

car. I like Jake. I like Jake. Great minds think alike. So, I actually have these conversations all the time with Uber and Lyft drivers. I say, yeah, as your day gone, how often do you do this? Is this your full time job? I'm going to ask you a question. Have you heard what's going on in California? What are your thoughts?

What are your thoughts? Great question. Would you rather be an employee? I'm actually getting to the source. And here's what I've uncovered. 80% would prefer to be 1099. Yeah. 80%.

Independent contractors. Yes. Would rather be 1099 independent contractors. And by the way, the CEO, the CEO of Uber said that 70% of their drivers want to stay independent contractor. Okay. So 70 to 80%. 30% doesn't.

That's so weird. Go ahead. So, and okay, so why does that 20, 30% exist? The number one answer is they drive full time, right? Number two, they want the benefits that come with that. They would like over time. Like the same reasons why you would wanna be an employee, right?

But here's the bigger thing here, because this is, it's, believe me, if I were living in California, and I took, like if I'm your son, Jake, and I drive Uber and Lyft everywhere, and I take that everywhere, I go, I'd be very nervous to see how this uncomfortable, it's because the last thing I wanna, like, if I'm your son, Jake, and I drive Uber and lift everywhere and I take that everywhere I go, I'd be very nervous to see how this uncovers because the last thing I want to do is, so, but what does, what big picture, big picture, California is going to set a precedent to what happens in other states because you know if it happens in California

when I was next. New York is next. New York is next. Illinois. Illinois is next. Texas might become next. I mean, let's not forget. Well, let's not forget. Well, let's not forget. Uber and Lyft left Austin. That's actually happened. That's a local. Yeah. Okay. That happened in the city of Austin, capital of Texas. So point is, there's other states looking at this that are going to say, what happened in California? What happened in LA? What happened in San Francisco? Could the same thing happen in my state? And we'll see what's gonna happen. This is actually a bigger thing than California.

Through October 22nd, 22, yes, on proposition, 22 received $199 million, which is the most funs that an initiative campaign has ever received in California, not just a foreign inflation period. $199 million for one prop, Uber contributed 57 million.

This tells you who's affected by it. Uber gave 57 million, lift gave 49 million, door dash gave 48 million. Only a million less than lift is door dash. Wow. Exactly, door dash gave 48 million, Instacard provided 32 million, and Postmates provided $13 million just for this prop and the no campaign on

prop receive $19.90 million a California labor federation SEIU local 721 International Brotherhood of Teamsters and labor union they gave $19 million and these other guys give $109 million. Is there polling on this? Is to where this is gonna go? I don't know if they're polling. I gotta think. I would love to hear from our audience. Do you support? Do you, I mean how often are you taking lift and Uber? Do you have a card? is to where this is going to go. I don't know if they're pulling it. I got to think. I would love to hear from our audience. Do you support, do you, I mean, how often are you taking lift and Uber? Do you have a car? Do you not have a car?

Lift Uber, where are you at? Like, where are you at on this debate? I would love to hear from our people. I'm not asking their opinion on necessarily the 10, 9 and 9 versus W2. I want to know how much, what percentage of audience has a car, doesn't have a car, is considering maybe not having a car. Because don't forget, I did an entire episode on this, all the costs that go with the car. I'm sure your son Jake has done this, the car insurance, the gas, the tolls, the parking, the main expensive to do Uber

lift, but you get a driver. Depending on how often these days, like COVID, you're not even freaking leaving the house, you're not going to work. A lot of people save a ton of money, save that money just by Uber and Uber and left over there. Listen, as soon as I'm over here, I got into CAR X and he's doing okay though. How much of your car insurance go up? That's probably nothing. I was able to fix it.

You were able to fix it? Yeah. What could have gone up if you didn't fix it? Could have gone up double. Yeah. So, car insurance. Nobody likes cars. Most of us at own cars, we drive our cars an hour a day, maybe.

An hour a day, maybe. Right. At the most, okay, so you own a car, 25% of the time. You're paying 100% of the depreciation, you're paying 100% of the insurance. If somehow you could have a sharing situation and you can, as soon as the self-driving cars come out, Uber and Lyft are going to be, immediately they don't have the expense of a driver. Okay, so when the self-driving cars become mainstream, general motors, Ford, Toyota, all the big car manufacturers are going to make self-driving cars, they're going to be able to put the

cars on the road way cheaper than Uber can. Because Uber is going to pay retail for the car, or at least get a good deal on the car, but the manufacturing cost is way lower than that. So the barrier to entry in terms of the software that Uber and Lyft do that's very easy. It's nothing. So there's going to have, there'll be a GM ride share thing that'll be going around and there'll be cars all over the place and you're going to be able to get them way faster. There's going to be no driver and the cost is going to be lower, which is going to cause the car industry to be really hurt because not every, there's such waste. So many people have cars and how

much of a car. How overvalued you think Tesla stock is right now? really hurt because not every there's such waste so many people have cars and how much of how overvalued you think Tesla stock is right now. Very overvalued. You think it's very overvalued. Very overvalued. Like what's a very overvalued? Ten times what it's worth maybe. Ten that's a big number.

They make any money. I love to make a profit yet. I love your real. Oh you. Ten times. 50 50 that's. Ten times. Obviously the market's a much smarter than I am.

So I'm not going to say I know, I just don't understand how a company that times is on line. Do you want their value that relative to other companies relative to United Airlines or relative to General Motors or Ford or come on, I mean, they don't make that many cars. Let me give you the, let me give you the poll you asked for California proposition. 5352 people voted an online poll just so you know 46% said they would vote in favor of Proposition 22. Which means?

Which means the opposite. While 42% would vote against it, the number of undecided voters fell by 13%. So remember, yes. So this is a close deal. It is a close deal. That's the problem. So Californians are totally cool with either losing Uber lift or having it cost 50% more. It's going to cost 50% more. They have no clue. By the way, a yes vote supports this ballot initiative to define

the app based transportation right here and delivery drivers as independent country. So yes, it is. By the way, my daughter called me with that prop and she read it to me. I had to, she had to read it to me three times to figure out which is so technically so complicated. So they intentionally made it tricky because they made it. Remember prop eight back in the days in California like 12 years ago, which was that means legal get a gay marriage. No, it's a similar thing. Yeah. And so you're voting no, I don't want it. So you're thinking no is an appentant contractor. And yes, is they stay. I want to say 25% of the people when I heard how that was worded on the ballot, 25% of

the people are going to vote in a way they didn't even know it's a way to vote. Exactly. And that'll flip the vote. Yeah, it would flip the vote. One other point here, because it's my, I talked about this as being bigger than California, because it could set a precedent. Other states, New York, and the North Florida Texas, what have you, don't forget, this is bigger than lifting Uber.

Why? Because what happens with other things like DoorDash, GrubHub, Instacart, UberEats. Well, that's Uber, obviously. But that- Are you gonna throw eBay or two now? You're gonna send it. I'm just saying all these independent contractors driving around, it's a slippery slope right here

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launched a partnership with Walmart. It's new membership. See how the e-commerce company builds tools to help retailers while working with e-commerce giants. Blacks team specifically focus on building products that support brick and mortar retailers with often complicated, on the channel sales process

so they can continue to grow and compete with retail giants. That being said, Shopify, pardon Walmart and June to bring 1200 small and medium sized Shopify merchants onto Walmart marketplace. The new partnership will enable Shopify merchants to apply to sell their products directly on Walmart's website, hence competing against Amazon, reaching the site 120 million monthly customers. Can you imagine 120 million people monthly visit Walmart.com.

This will help small merchants get more exposure, but it's certainly benefit to Wal-Mart as well. The partnership recently helped push Shopify stock to an all time high after Wal-Mart, announced Wal-Mart Plus, its new membership service. Thoughts on this partnership between Shopify and Wal-Mart.

Way above my pay grade, but I will say this, the markets usually really smart about these kinds of things. So the market obviously thinks this is great for Shopify, and that was reflected in their stock going up as a result of this. Walmart's obviously a huge partner. They've got their reputation as being a tough partner. I mean, they busted the balls of... Four years. ...for years. I mean, you know, you decide to get in bed with Walmart. You're selling your soul to, you know, they're gonna decide how much money you get to make and all that stuff. But Shopify is here to

stay. I mean, Shopify is the real deal. At least I don't sell merchandise online, so I'm not a customer of it, but everybody that uses it tells me to deal with by the way. Yeah, that's what I hear. And so the market's usually pretty smart about these kinds of things. They've evaluated it. All the analysts have looked at it, and people don't just buy and discriminate. The market is usually right. So I'm gonna say this is probably good for shop. Adam, who wins more here? Does Walmart win more here?

Does Shopify win more here? I think Shopify definitely wins more here. More than Walmart. Yeah, I mean, I think that just happens, but I think, I mean, at this point, you got Amazon, you got Walmart. You got Amazon, you got Walmart. You got Amazon, you got Walmart. Clearly, right now, Amazon, at least in the e-commerce space,

is winning, and Walmart's just trying to get in the game. I mean, I want to say, get in the game. Try to level up their game in the e-commerce space and Shopify is obviously set the precedent that they know what the hell they're doing when it comes to e-commerce. And Walmart, would you agree lagging behind Amazon when it comes to e-commerce? Walmart would you agree lagging behind Amazon when it comes to e-commerce?

And they're just they're adapting. I mean, it's Walmart and versus Amazon. Those are the two big boys in the room. Let's see what. Let me ask you this. How many products does Walmart sell on their site? Why don't you try? Why don't you look up how many products Amazon sells on their site?

How many products does Walmart sell on their site? I'm doing Walmart. You look up Amazon, I got the Walmart numbers, I don't know if you actually got both of them. Okay, so Walmart.com sells 4.4 million products on their site. That's as of 2015, so that's a while back, out of which most products are not sold at Walmart itself. If you drill down further as of April 17, Walmart has a total of 23.5 million products on sale. So now they went from 4.7 million to 2015, 4.4 million to now 23.5 million products on sale. While Amazon, you know how many products Amazon sells on their site?

It's 12 million. Nobody. Amazon sells 350 million products on their site. What? Yeah, so Amazon only sells 12 million, but then there's the marketplace, which is third party selling. Yeah, that's what they're trying to do. That's the majority. 150 million products versus 23 million. 15 times more products they sell than Amazon.

Is that really the measure though? The number of products, or is it the total sales? Well, no, the way you look at it is distribution, right? So if Amazon selling $332 million, and $12 million is their own product, what's that? We got to say, okay, if Amazon selling $332 million product of which $12 million is their own product, that means the other $320 million is,

you and I decided to sell a card or we're selling whatever that we want to sell to them. That just means the affiliates are playing a big role on Amazon. So while just wanted to bring in a affiliates through Shopify to say, listen, you bring your 20 million sellers and let them sell whatever they want to sell on the Walmart website if we approve them. It's actually not. It's a very interesting one. Amazon is already doing it. It's working. So why not? Any chance Walmart can catch up and start competing with Amazon and beating Amazon. Is there a chance small, but yeah?

Sure, small, pretty small. Walmart's still a bigger company. Massive, they have more of a giant company. So yeah, is it possible? Yeah, I mean, they do have a lot of legacy thinking that they've had to overcome. They tried to get into online early failed. They got to try to get in again early fail.

Then they bought jet and the jets are okay. If you're putting the on jet, it's not bad. I mean, it's interesting. It's not Amazon, but I sometimes buy things on jet if Amazon doesn't have what I want. And so this is where the world is going. And Amazon's already figured out. So Walmart's late to the party, but I mean, Walmart's nothing. You can't doubt what Walmart's going to be able to do, whether they'll catch Amazon.

I don't know. I think they're both going to be big players for a long time. Two and a half million employees worldwide. By the way, have you ever bought anything on Walmart? Dotcom. Yes, many times. Kai says no, he's the important one. He's 22.

You have many times. Absolutely. Have you ever bought, do you just call it a virus not important? No, no. What I'm saying is they want that customer. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's what I'm saying. Have you ever bought an Amazon all the time?

I've never bought on Walmart. Have you ever bought anything on Walmart? You have? Yes. How much money have you spent on Walmart versus how much money you've spent on Amazon? It's not even close. I've spent more in Amazon.

So probably like 90% Amazon and 10% Walmart. 10% Walmart. You've never ever seen how it would you? I'm 29. 29. 22. 22. 40.

22. And I have never bought anything on Walmart. But, Mr. Nell. Jennifer has bought on Walmart God knows many, many times. But we shop on Amazon. I buy on Walmart every month or two. I buy on Walmart that you can't get on Amazon. Sometimes you just can't find it on Amazon, believe it or not.

Like what? I've never not found something on Amazon. Who knows? You're buying guns. No, you don't buy guns on one. Maybe some guns, gun cleaning solution possible. Okay. Seriously, I probably buy something. I mean, when I see, when I go into Walmart, I almost forget my password or whatever, but I do buy things probably five to six times a year on Walmart.com, and I probably buy things, you know, five times a week on Amazon between my wife and I. 80% Amazon. No, it's probably 95 to 90.

95. It's mostly Amazon. Oh, so you are not even Amazon. Oh yeah. It's not like a... I mean, I've been buying on Walmart for a long time. Exactly, but even him, 95% on Amazon, 5% on Walmart. Yeah. Amazon's your go-to. if they have it, you click the button.

You know, it's about it. If you're watching, it's I'm curious. If you're watching is how many of you have bought things on Walmart? Can you put your split on what percentage is Amazon versus Walmart? I'm curious. Do you ever go to Walmart.com and shop on Walmart? Have they ever, is that something they marketed? Like I never see like, I've never seen them come out.

I just say, we're competing with Amazon, come shop online at walmart.com. Like download the Walmart app, we're just as good as Amazon. Never heard them say that. I remember the land, I think I bought some room dividers, you know, they just happen to have what I wanted. They just, these, those things that fold out and, yeah. And they had what I wanted, the price was right.

And they changed their policy. When Amazon came out with prime and everything was free two day, Walmart was behind on that. And then Walmart kind of caught up and says, okay, we'll do free two day, whatever. So is this the thing that makes Walmart compete with Amazon online? Is this move with Shopify? I think what it does is it expands the skews so that if you go to Amazon, if you go to Walmart, you'll find whatever you want. The odds of finding what you want on Amazon are almost 98%.

If it's for sale somewhere, Amazon's probably got it. Walmart maybe wasn't there if they had one tenth the number of skews. When they have all the skews by virtue of letting small merchants sell products that they may not have on their normal menu, it makes it easier and it's going to bring more people to Walmart. It's gonna help Walmart. It's gonna help Shopify to help them both.

120 million a month, monthly visitors is no joke. By the way, shout out to Byron Udell from Evelyn, Lachengo, Byron Udell, you're the man, I want you back. Okay, so that's some, some love. Bye bye, if the you guys feel the same way as Evelyn does, press the thumbs up button. It helps with the algorithms and click on the subscribe button and notification if you're loving Byron, you delas

or guests today. By the way, surprisingly so, a lot of people actually do shop at walmart.com. I'm not surprised. I see 80, 20, 80, 20, 100% Amazon. I never go on Walmart. The question was on the paper. 30% Walmart, 70% Amazon, Mike Wright.

So the question was how much of your merchandise do you get on a Walmart or how many of you actually have bought anything on Walmart? The question was, Mike, my question is how much of online shopping do you do on Walmart versus Amazon? That's a good thing. That's a better question.

Purely online. Now, because I go to Walmart and I buy a lot of stuff on Walmart versus Amazon? That's a good thing. That's a better question. Purely online. Now, because I go to Walmart and I buy a lot of stuff at Walmart, but I go to the store. But online shopping, I don't do Walmart. I've never bought anything at Walmart. But I have a lot of money on Amazon.com. So even here, you're seeing 60, 40 split.

Are you kidding me? 60, 40 split is a big number. 70% Amazon, 30 Walmart, 2% Walmart, 5% Walmart. Look, I mean, if these are the numbers that we're looking at, that means Byron, you deal full time fixture, Byron. Byron, yes, Byron, yes. Byron, they love you Byron.

So this is good. Someone said, ask, where can I buy Adam's shirt? That'll be coming soon, guys. Yes. Adam will have a shirt. We'll have a launch about a new store that Adam's spearheading works out of launch that you're supposed to put out. A question for you. You have a launch about a new store that Adam spearheading works out a launch that you should push it out.

Question for you. Yeah. You have a lot of books. Yes. Yes. What percentage of your books do you get on Amazon? I would say 99% in the last five years. I'm in the same place.

Same way. It's just too easy. I don't even care about the prob. Whether our book is $16 or $22. I mean, if I want the book, I want it tomorrow. But here's what I would come fast. If I go to Barnes & Noble and I know I'm over pain, I don't care I'm willing to pay for it. I go to Barnes & Noble to me. It's a form of supporting a local business than I do about trying to. They're still around. They are still around. I have a Barnes & Noble. I go every time I ask them, how you guys do? We're doing, we're doing,

we're doing. We're doing. We're doing. We a B.I.E. Every time I ask them, how you guys do? We're doing this. We're doing this. We're doing this. We take your kids there. I take them there. They take a field trip. Pretty much every Sunday. They go, they play around with buy books.

Like the other day, I bought how many books that I buy? The other day, I bought 90 books. A hundred books. About like a 90, a hundred books. I came out and I said, great. Great. So I don't mind contributing to Barnes and Noble. I know I'm making a shitload of money.

I just want to make sure Barnes and Noble sticks around. Well, I used to go to the bookstore many, many times here. We had a Barnes and Noble. We had a borders and I love going to bookstores. I love browsing around. I love, you know, just seek it. There's something about it. There is something about it,

but I haven't been in a Barnes and Noble, which is actually there was one fairly close to my house, probably 15 minutes from my house in Deerfield. I don't think I've been in the Barnes & Noble for years and years and years. I mean, you can browse around on, you can just browse around on on. Okay, so easy.

So let's do a forecasting. So next week, Tuesday, who wins? Give us not who you want to win, who wins next week? Man, I think it's a pick, I think it's 50-50. You think it's 50-50? Yeah. Wow, Adam likes you a lot. Ha-ha-ha-ha-ha. You think it's 50, 50? Yeah. Wow, Adam likes you a lot. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.

Maybe 50, maybe 51, 49 in favor of Trump probably. You know, I do think that Trump voters in terms of polling are even more shy to express their, their intention to vote for Trump than they were four years ago. I mean, four years ago, if you were going to vote for Trump, okay, whatever, you were chastised, but now, oh my God, you're like a pariah,

and there's a ton of people that are just afraid to say they're going to vote for Trump, but they're going to vote for Trump. So the polls in these last two elections have been really, really, it's a horrible business. I mean, it's like being a weatherman, you know? You're wrong. We didn't even get into the numbers

of how much money was invested to, oh, we got to do it on the next one on Thursday. Yeah. So has anything changed with you? Yeah. Have an updated prediction. Well, the meaning this Amy come this, this Amy changed again. Do you think that changes the game? Is that a help Trump or her Trump? It helps Trump with his base by a huge way.

Yeah. He got it done. He pushed it through. Number one, I actually disagreed with my friend, Byron, here. I think if you support Trump, you're loud and proud at this point. You're not holding anything bad. No I think in 2016 you were kind of like the silent majority. I think at this point I haven't met one person that is not if they believe in Trump. They just I'm a mega guy. Trump Trump Trump Trump 2020 We see it in the comments like crazy. I don't think anybody shy about that. I don't know. I've been saying 50 50 I've been saying 50 50 I've been saying 50, 50, I've been saying 50, 50, I've been saying 50, 50. You're still 50.

For ever, I am now 51, 49. But. Oh my God, so we got a 51, 49 here. We got a 51, 49 here, a Biden Trump. Are you still at 85%. I'm saying place. Wow. I am at the same place.

I'm not even moving in Trump. I'm not even moving in.. I'm not even moving in. So, so if you believe that Trump has an 85% chance of winning, you know you could make a ton of money in Vegas if you're right. You should put the bet down. No, I'm at plus 160. Plus 160. He's plus 160.

So you bet 100 grand. You make 160 grand and get your 100 back. Yes, it's not a bad deal. I may just do it. I'll tell you what, I would rather. For the main even more last time. That was probably a five to one hundred dog last time. Yeah, that's it. But last time was a real risky one today. And it's all because of Biden.

It's all because of Biden. It's not about it. He was running. Somebody else was running a different story. This guy still thinking he's running against George Bush. He just said he was saying it was going, I mean, he said he thinks he's gone. That's one, you know, you've been on politics for a long time. We're like, yes, I pointed George. George Trump is like, the guy's name is Donald Trump, buddy. Anyway, George, we have come to our time of two hours.

I got a pot, I got another meeting. I got to jump on it. You got to get a fly back to Chicago, brother. Really enjoyed it with you, man. This was a great podcast. Thank you, man. Thank you for saying it. Thank you, man.

Thank you, man. If you're on, you enjoy the thumbs up, represents you love, Byron, you want him back and click on the subscribe button and the notification button. And we'll do it again. I think we're scheduled right now for Thursday. If anything changes, we're back at it again. This Thursday, eight o'clock and next Tuesday, next Tuesday, we're doing the marathon, which means we're going to start at seven o'clock at the pump. And we may go to 12 o'clock in the morning, subrace your string, your drink, your

alcohol, your friends. We're going to have a party to get a next to the next Tuesday. Take everybody. That's one o'clock in the morning. So brace your string, your drink, bring your alcohol on with your friends. How'd you feel? We gonna have a party to get a next to the next Tuesday. Take everybody. Bye bye. Bye bye. Bye bye.