PBD Podcast - Army Ranger & Entrepreneur Mat Best | PBD Podcast | Ep. 173

Episode Date: July 26, 2022

In this episode, Patrick Bet-David is joined by Mat Best, Tom Zenner and Adam Sosnick. TOPICS 0:00 - Start  8:07 - The biggest challenge with transitioning from military to civilian life ... 15:46 - Black Rifle Coffee reacts to the Kyle Rittenhouse controversy  25:17 - The truth about the camaraderie in the military  38:22 - Why is the White House redefining the term 'recession'?  44:24 - Why do people want to stay in California?  57.01 - Is Joe Biden mentally fit to be president?  1:06:42 - Will the U.S. ever have a female president?  1:16:08 - Reaction to China buying farm land next to Top Secret Military bases  1:25:49 - Did China try and buy Patrick Bet-David?!  1:36:35 - How to take advantage of opportunities to earn money For Mat's book "Thank You for My Service": https://amzn.to/3b7gYuQ For Black Rifle Coffee: https://bit.ly/3cDTUEw Follow Mat Best: https://bit.ly/3zavYAk For Tom Zenner's podcast "One Degree of Scandalous": https://bit.ly/3Ouwqio Follow Tom Zenner: https://bit.ly/2FbacnW Text: PODCAST to 310.340.1132 to get added to the distribution list Patrick Bet-David is the founder and CEO of Valuetainment Media. He is the author of the #1 Wall Street Journal bestseller Your Next Five Moves (Simon & Schuster) and a father of 2 boys and 2 girls. He currently resides in Ft. Lauderdale, Florida.   To reach the Valuetainment team you can email: booking@valuetainment.com --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/pbdpodcast/support

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Starting point is 00:00:00 When you got that David this sets the tone. I like it. Listen Tom. We miss you. I got to tell you man It's been a minute since obviously I saw you last week in LA. Yeah, but we miss you We are back. We haven't done a podcast for a week We're you know a bunch of things going on in LA, but today we have a special one for you folks. Let me tell you why If you've ever seen the movie deadpool, okay? I want you to think about it. If you've ever seen a movie deadpool Imagine the real life person of plane Deadpool, but this is a real life type of guy that you're talking about. Badass, military, ranger, I think five tours.
Starting point is 00:00:33 A rapper, one of his songs was a billboard number 36, YouTube channel with a million and a half subscribers. Mixed viral videos, he came out of the closet one day telling those parents he's a conservative, just a lot of different things, very interesting, dynamic, funny, intense, badass veteran, special guest, Matt Best, co-founder of a black rifle coffee, it's good to have you on. Thank you so much for having me on, I feel amped up after that answer, thank you so much. Yes, we're excited about having you on, it's, you know, the whole thing with podcasting, man, when you do it and you're having fun, you want to do more of it.
Starting point is 00:01:11 And then we, you know, interesting characters like you that come on and mix it even more exciting. But Tom, last week we were in LA. I got to tell you what happened in LA, which was kind of weird. You know how you went to New York and you said, wow, New York's much better and et cetera, et cetera. Right? That's what you were talking about month ago. And by the way, I talked to you, Tom, then I think you said, wow, New York's much better and et cetera, et cetera, right? That's what you were talking about month ago. And by the way, I talked to you, Tom, then I think you said you went to New York, and it was great. Oh my God, we went, we took the family.
Starting point is 00:01:32 We went to DC first, and then we went to New York City. And the thing is, you're so programmed now to believe the media, or you're just susceptible to the crap that they feed on you, so you think it's chaos. It couldn't have been better. I thought New York was better than it was the last time was there pre-pandemic. DC was incredible.
Starting point is 00:01:49 So don't believe the hype, man. These seats are open, but I make just to see what you have to say about the adjoys. Are you gonna announce that you're moving to Portland? I think the audience wants to go and do it now. One state at a time, I don't like it to floor. I got, well let me tell you the chas. Yeah, he would make a great leader, chas.
Starting point is 00:02:03 Tom, what do you think about that? That's a good thing on your resume? I'm gonna consider it. We're not similar. I guess conversation last time we won L.A. The first time we were there 2020. Yeah, we went literally looking for the homeless We have to look hard was it that bad though when you and I were first time how about the last time you and I Not bad at all. Let me explain to what happened this time. Okay. Let me explain to what I was done So I lived in Grenada Hill So we went and we kind of went back on all the offices and buildings and everything that I was leasing and Let me explain to what happened this time. Okay, let me explain to what happened this time. So I lived in Grenada Hills,
Starting point is 00:02:25 so we went and we kind of went back on all the offices and buildings and everything that I was leasing and Grenada Hills filled with homelessness everywhere. Couldn't believe it. Glendale, homelessness, lower. This time. This time.
Starting point is 00:02:37 Glendale was like a three. Grenada Hills was a seven. You ready? Let me put it to this way. Beverly Hills was a 10. Get ready? Let me put it to this way. Beverly Hills was a 10. Get out of here. Beverly Hills. You know what?
Starting point is 00:02:48 You know how you say this? It sounds like you're, you know how it's like you're over hyping it up. Come on, I can't believe you're saying this. So I go to a new restaurant in Beverly Hills called Catch. Okay. And it's a steak restaurant. Our friend Kevin took a step.
Starting point is 00:03:01 Remember, I told you the story about Catch on a podcast? What's that? That remember remember my friend had his car Stead on fire in front of his business on lost the aniga is that cat It was right across the street from catching they couldn't open catch for the longest time because some homeless had pitched a tent And they couldn't get rid of them Tyler. I'm sending you this clip if you can show it If you can pull this up and show this So so this is this is Beverly Hills. Right across from SLS, what is SLS?
Starting point is 00:03:29 So tell us supposed to be low end. Is it like a competitor on cell six or what? No, no, no, no. It's a competitor, Ritz Carlton. Yes, okay. Four and a half years. By the way, the homeless guy built a tree house across from SLS.
Starting point is 00:03:42 I mean, that's pretty creative if you think about it. That's impressive. That's ingenious, right? He turned it into an Airbnb. Interprising, young man. Do you have the clip or no title? I just give you one second. Okay, so I'm pulling up on Beverly Hills. We're going, you're assuming like if there is a city that represents America that cannot be about. Think about people from, look at this right here. Press play. So that building that you're looking at across is SLS you see all of that sit upright there homeless there's even a tree house that's in front of SLS
Starting point is 00:04:12 hotel in Beverly Hills I could not Beverly Hills if there was a city that I thought would not have any of it it's Beverly Hills but so I was going hoping I can come back with a story like you had about New York. I don't have that story about LA and it's going to be interesting to see what happens. So what changed because maybe we just went to different neighborhoods. We were in Venice. We were expecting to see all shit. And it was in Venice. Not at all. Oh, the last time you were there. Yeah, but why would you allow? Like listen, it, it weren't Florida. And it's not even like shitting on California. You can't allow Beverly Hills to look like that.
Starting point is 00:04:48 But it is what they have. I'm born and raised in California. So I'm embarrassed that my state a little bit. So. So the crime in Beverly Hills is off the charts too. I mean, that people, anybody that goes to Beverly Hills for dinner now, they will not wear their nice jewelry
Starting point is 00:05:02 because they could be followed home. It's a big deal. The stuff happens like all the time. Yeah, guys, everybody's DMing me saying, hey, take that jewelry off. Take that watch off. You don't want to be seen walking across and distrace with them.
Starting point is 00:05:12 Like, what are you talking about? So you think propaganda, people are talking a lot about it. And then you're like, no, maybe it's really happened. Gas price, we're $6.69 by the way. So yeah, $6.69 is a legit. Oh, great. It went down. It went down. Yeah. So Matt, by the way, so yeah, it's 660 and it's legit. Oh, great. It went down. So it's down.
Starting point is 00:05:25 Yeah. So Matt, where do you live? By the way, if we can't, if for the audience that doesn't, I'll, Matt, do you mind taking a minute and give them your background, you know, how you guys came about with black rifle coffee, Ranger, 40 audience that doesn't know. Sure, sure. The readers digest version is essentially a born and raised in San Barbara, California. I come from a very long lineage of military history, all my great uncles, serving world
Starting point is 00:05:44 were two. My dad's a marine and and Vietnam, my two brothers serving the invasion of Iraq. Actually, it's in my book, but they were supposed to graduate September 11, 2001. So it was a kind of compelling story about how that kind of the day they were supposed to graduate, changed the course of their lives forever, and kind of probably my life as well, because I'll give it to the Marines. I look good in those dress blue uniforms, and when I saw them walking up there, I say, I want to serve my country. And so, joined the military at 17, went on to serve in second-range of battalion,
Starting point is 00:06:10 did five tours with them, got out, hated my life as a civilian, actually moved to Los Angeles. And for me, it was just the politics and then the age group that I was in, you know, 22 years was just so different than where I had been conditioned to be in my life. So I went to rejoin the military, but actually got a job contracting in the intelligence community. So I did that for about five and a half years.
Starting point is 00:06:31 That was the way that I helped fund a lot of my businesses early on, was essentially taking the capital from deploying segmenting times when I was home, and then just knocking stuff out day by day. So it was a lot of risk management because I was making a decent six-figure salary working for the organization I was working for. And I just applied that and worked my butt off put myself through college and the rest kind of been history.
Starting point is 00:06:54 Matt, a question, you know, a lot of times you, you'll go, there's a friend in Dallas, Ballon is his last name, who they run this military thing with another guy that we went to there event. There was a bunch of guys, Rangers, Delta, Special Forces, you know, Paratrooper, all of them like the badass guys in a marketplace and a military.
Starting point is 00:07:13 What do you think is the biggest transition from guys who made it here in a military to come in and to civilian and make it, because you know, it's kind of like, well, if you can make it in a military, you work so hard to camaraderie, team, leadership, you know, shouldn't you come out and to civilian and make it. Because, you know, it's kind of like, well, if you can make it in a military, you work so hard to camaraderie, team, leadership, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Shouldn't you come out and kill it in the private free enterprise
Starting point is 00:07:30 because it should be an easy transition. What is the biggest challenge to transition from your here protecting saving lives on the front line, you're getting shot up, seeing people, you're seeing some difficult things. I mean, chaos, non nonstop to transition into civilian. I think there's a lot of job skills. Obviously, like if you're a team leader in an infantry unit
Starting point is 00:07:51 and you're making dynamic decisions while getting shot at, you already have such a leadership sensibility about you that absolutely applies the civilian sector. For me, it was the cultural change from the military, right? Because all of a sudden, I had to do with fucking feelings and that's the truth. Whereas when I'm overseas and you're working with a very professional team, you know, we have the most
Starting point is 00:08:14 edgy jokes to each other, but we all know that we got each other's backs. And for me coming into the civilian sector, that was the hardest part because all of a sudden, I had to like, what were about a pronoun? Like, straight up. And for me me it really messed with my head. And it was the whole reason I went back overseas because I wanted to be around people like me that could make jokes, make a little reverent.
Starting point is 00:08:35 And then that kind of metabolized into me saying, hey, I'm going to start my own businesses because I can choose culturally who's a part of that. And I want to work with fun, exciting, educated people that want a crush life. I don't want to work with people that want to be victims. And that's what I found a lot in the civilian sector. And I'm not paying that for everybody. I'm just simply saying corporate America has been conditioned like that, especially the last 10 years.
Starting point is 00:08:56 It's gotten so much worse. So if we have the opportunity to create a culture and hire veterans that believe in the stuff we believe in and give them a safe space in a way of, in a reverent terms, kind of the opposite we believe in and give them, you know, a safe space in a way of, in a reverent term, it's kind of the opposite of a space space where people can wear their tattoos, say the F word, like, let's just get work done and treat people well. And do you ask that in the interview process, like, or do you, are you more, I'm actually
Starting point is 00:09:18 really curious because you guys have built a very, very successful brand company. I mean, you guys are killing it. It's not a small thing that you guys are building. You guys are done a great job with the company. So is it you use a recruiting firm that specifically focuses on talent and culture and you tell them, these are the five things we're looking for if you come here
Starting point is 00:09:37 or do you guys in the interview process specifically ask certain questions that filters out people that maybe won't fit your culture? What's that process? Yeah, I think it always starts with the top rights. You have a CHRO whoever your, you know, head of human resources is like that comes from the founders and the executive staff as far as, hey, these are the things and the attributes that we want in someone.
Starting point is 00:09:57 And it's almost like back in the intelligence community, you rather have someone as a TSS I clearance and then train them how to do a profession because the clearance is the hardest part. The culture and business for me is the hardest part. Once you see someone and you know, okay, they might not have the exact skill set that we need quite yet, but we can put a professional development plan together. And then honestly, I like that because if, especially if they're a veteran, we're providing them a structure to succeed, learn a new skill, and they already have their leadership experience, they have the culture experience. Now, it's just a matter of like, how do I roast coffee? That's a pretty easy skill, and we're giving them a new skill.
Starting point is 00:10:30 So it's all in, I think, the format of who you're looking for, and the culture aspect of the employee's side is a very large thing for me, at least. Got it. So it's upfront. So if I'm going through the interview process, I'm already gonna know what it's gonna entail to be part of Black Rifle Coffee. Yeah, and let's be honest, a lot of it maybe doesn't even need to come from us
Starting point is 00:10:52 because if you look at the company and you go on and look at the videos and you watch coming as a conservative, you referenced that earlier, you have a pretty good indicator of what my values are and what the company's values are. So you either like it, you don't like it. So you either like it, you don't like it. You don't like it. And they don't come work for it.
Starting point is 00:11:08 Have you ever had people that don't agree with your values that work with you guys and were successful? I'm sure, yeah. I mean, they probably were caught. Got about it a little bit. How big are you guys at this point? How big is the world worth of employees? A thousand employees.
Starting point is 00:11:20 Got about 50% veteran high rating that too. No shit. 50% props to you. Right around the first. Well, thank you for your service. No shit. 50%. Yeah. Props to you. Right around the first. Well, thank you for your service. And thank you for hiring vets the way you are. 50%. Yeah, I mean, that's what we set out to do.
Starting point is 00:11:32 And we're not done. I mean, this is just the start, to be honest with you. So what's the vision? What's the grand vision? What are we going to be doing? All of us going to be drinking coffee one day. Hopefully. I saw some other coffee back there in the green
Starting point is 00:11:41 room. I had to change that out. This is weak, bro. This is not your coffee. That's not drinking it. I had to change that out. This is weak, bro. This is not your coffee. That's why I'm not drinking it. I was expecting maybe a gift or something, bro. I don't just put that out. Well, it's in the mail, I promise.
Starting point is 00:11:52 No, I mean, we made a promise to our customer base. We're in higher 10,000 veterans years ago. And that has been at the forefront of our journey this entire time. And you start to see that a lot more with some of the brick and mortar locations opening and a lot of other strategic partnerships that we're doing like partnering with Dallas Cowboys,
Starting point is 00:12:09 stuff like that. So it's always. Who loves you? Who hates you? Who loves black rifle coffee? Who hates black rifle coffee? I mean, a lot of people love us and a lot of people hate us. You know, we've been in a culture war a few times during it.
Starting point is 00:12:21 So we're not shy to, yeah, a little hating the internet, but I'm okay with it. It is what it is. Speaking of haters, you guys, since whatever deal you put together with the Dallas Cowboys, made a lot of news. Yeah. What was the drama with all that, especially with the recent
Starting point is 00:12:38 string of mass shootings or school shootings that was kind of in the news? It's an emotional position from woke media in my opinion because when I look at this, and I look at it like battle space back in the military of like who's taking shots and why are they taking shots? Well, they're trying to rip away like people that just love America.
Starting point is 00:12:55 And that's where I started, because it's America's team and America's coffee. So when a lot of people somehow based off of us having black rifle coffee in our company's name, try to use that and sensationalize that into saying that somehow it was distasteful because a national tragedy happened and then a football company and a coffee company are partnering.
Starting point is 00:13:13 I don't understand. Was it the timing? Is that what it was? Yeah, but I mean, that was months and months ahead, right? Right. It is what it is. If people want to get offended at that, hey, it is.
Starting point is 00:13:23 Yeah, hey, I think you need to be congratulated for doing a deal with Jerry Jones. That's the epitome. I mean, that is phenomenal. That's gonna pay a huge benefits. Let me ask you this, Matt, you're not that far removed from the military. What are people telling you as far as the walkification
Starting point is 00:13:36 of the military? Is that real? Are they changing? Yeah, I mean, we've talked about this over the years. It seems from a lot of my friends, not every unit, but there are specific this over the years. It seems from a lot of my friends, not every unit, but there are specific units in the cultures that have been changing because when you have
Starting point is 00:13:49 a lot more progressive leadership that comes into the White House and other portions of the country, their influence over generals and admirals and name the brass, that top down, right? Top down comes from culture. And yeah, I don't know this whole like mandatory vaccination thing and then the military. I mean, it seems as we are just trying to create a weak force, which is like the opposite of being a war fighter. Like, it's okay to have tattoos
Starting point is 00:14:14 and you're going out on target with your friends to killer capture high value targets. Like, that's a real job and it's you need people that signed up for that exact, I'm trying to be very casual with my statements there. The whole purpose of being in the military is to fight wars and win them. But I think men's men are making a big comeback. I think they're coming back. And I think people are sitting around and saying, what the hell are you talking about? By the way, you know who's gonna help? Man's, man make a comeback, women. It's gonna be, we're a lot of, like you had a girl on on your podcast, who's like, listen, this is what I'm looking for for,
Starting point is 00:14:52 man, I wanna be able to do this, I wanna man that does this, where they're looking for more alphas of men who are willing to step up and take the lead rather than being, you know, panzees, walking around thinking they have to please everybody. And I think it is making a comeback. So I don't think that's gonna slow down.
Starting point is 00:15:09 By the way, just out of curiosity, what was the issue with written house, what happened with the shirt that was worn? If you can talk about that a little bit because there was a little bit of controversy with that. Yeah, I mean, we got kind of thrown in the center of that. I mean, the start of it was, and it's weird that I have to say this so much, but going into that, I always, when you watch that video for me,
Starting point is 00:15:29 Coverton House, defended himself with a firearm legally, and I've been a huge second amendment proponent my entire life. I mean, I'm one of the, like, OG guys on YouTube that started making comedy videos. Well, when the shirt came out, it was a huge mix up with, like, kind of a sponsorship, essentially, and it was pretty much said that we'd sponsored him and we didn't sponsor him. And so when we put a statement out saying we didn't sponsor and people took that as we don't support him, drastically two different things.
Starting point is 00:15:55 And also like we had kind of a weak response to be honest with you. We were caught off guard and we kind of fucked it up to be honest with you. Oh no, shit. Yeah, like, I think there wasn't clear and concise. Yeah. Like, this is what we believe it was scattered information
Starting point is 00:16:09 and then people ran with the false narrative. And, you know, when you look back, it's certain things like that. Like, I'm not a PR expert. Man, I was carrying a gun professionally like eight years ago. So, but it is what it is. And I think most people see now, especially even after the company went public,
Starting point is 00:16:23 we have not veered from anything that we've ever done. Like at the time where most people might change their brand position, we're going hard in the paint with our support for Second Amendment. I mean, I just did a great podcast. I thought with the Firearms Policy Coalition, who I think is the leader in Second Amendment, the lawsuits and everything they do to protect the Second Amendment. So we're out there doing what we believe in, and I'm a constitutionalist. And most people know that, but question for you. Sure. In that moment because I remember one
Starting point is 00:16:49 time, you know, media matters came after me and Daily Beast came after me. We were having an event I think with Kobe Bryant, the late Kobe Bryant and President Bush and Jordan Peterson, we put, you know, six that you were at this event, right? Six thousand people who put in the room and it's an incredible event, phenomenal event that we had. Next thing, you know, Patrick, but David, this is like, what the hell is going on? So we came back and we called them up, and we addressed them, we handled, we had a lengthy call.
Starting point is 00:17:13 I was just coming back on a flight, an incentive trip we had with our guys. But we didn't have a publicist at the time. We didn't have a, you know, a big sunshine, sacks in New York, saying, here's how you handle it. First number, we say this, this is a script. When that happened to you guys, did you have sacks in New York's. And here's how you handle it. First number, you say this is a script. When that happened to you guys, did you have somebody that was kind of directing you guys?
Starting point is 00:17:29 Were you took the council from them? Or was it more, here's how we're reacting to this crisis? For me, it was more, I was just so taken back that people on like our side would be like, that we went woke and we're not, we're anti-touet. I was, I was actually more confused than anything. And a part of that too is that I didn't really realize the importance of that situation
Starting point is 00:17:52 for the Second Amendment, whereas if he would have been found guilty, what that would have done for case law. Didn't know that until probably a couple of months when I said on the lawyer and a friend, he was like, this is why this specific instance matters so much. So I went, oh, I got it.
Starting point is 00:18:05 But then also, right, I look at the sense of, I'm a veteran owned and operated coffee company that puts veterans first. And I like am a huge gun guy personally. And so like, I didn't necessarily know why the company had to make a statement in that situation. It was, it was just very confusing at the time, I feel like. And so I think to your point, you make mistakes, you learn from them. And all you can do is be exactly who you are and stay authentic.
Starting point is 00:18:28 And I think we've done exactly that. How, just, again, just to finish this up, I want to move on from this topic. But if, if you, like the next time around some like this happen, what's going to be the different approach? Is there like a new system, because we created a system for ourselves? Because if you don't know how to deal with the media, they're gonna bully you. And they're not
Starting point is 00:18:47 gonna stop because they'll keep picking at you. What is the new approach that you guys are planning on taking if some like this happens? Well, in our initial statement, we said we believe in the judicial system pretty much. You just like verbatim that. I don't want to say verbatim because I don't want to speak out to her. But it was implied that we were fully supporting Kyle and we believe he was going to be found innocent. But there was still gray area in there. So probably forward, I'm going to be so clear and concise with my statements because obviously anybody can take,
Starting point is 00:19:17 we see the news that has done it so many times to serve the years. They take an interview, they misplaced the statement and they make you look like an asshole. You know what it almost is? Here's the craziest thing. What it almost is, and you hear this over and over and over again, until it happens to you, man, you know,
Starting point is 00:19:36 to apologize or not to apologize, right? To bow down or to say, listen, this is what we stand for. The guy has the freedom to wear that shirt. to bow down or to say, listen, this is what we stand for. The guy has the freedom to wear that shirt. This is what he supports. Did we ask him to wear that shirt? The guy chose to wear that shirt. How come you don't call people? The next time there's a shooting
Starting point is 00:19:55 and the guys wear Nike, how come Nike doesn't get called out for that? How come, you know, Puma, how come whoever it is, I don't know who wears Puma, but how come these other guys don't get called out for that? And, but this specific area, it's because of, hey, this is what you stand for. Your conservative, boom, let's go after this.
Starting point is 00:20:10 So, you know, it's almost, if you are specifically, if you're conservative, it backfires if you try to play the diplomatic game. They will keep bullying you over and over and over again. Yeah, plus there's no doubt where you guys stand and you're very articulate. So you don't really make mistakes if a microphone goes in front of you. So I think you have that as an advantage. I think people are getting tired of the apologies.
Starting point is 00:20:31 I think a few people are gonna, we're just exhausted from it. Don't you think a few people are just going, like you watch some of these commentators right now that in comedians and you see what happened to Dave Chappelle and Minneapolis, I'm not sure if you guys talked about that, where show got canceled last week at first Avenue, but I think people are just exhausted
Starting point is 00:20:49 of apologizing and hearing apologies all the time. Like, who has the time to be offended by everything? Like, if I said something that offended a lot of people, I honestly wouldn't care. I mean, like, why would I want to go out of my way to apologize to somebody in Topeka that I've never met before? When I laugh on that too, because, you know, I don't speak a lot about politics. I don't know as much as you guys do,
Starting point is 00:21:12 but I have obviously my opinions, but I'm like not a political pundit, you know, I'm like a knuckle-dragger that carried a gun for 10 years and then does stupid comedy on YouTube and somehow started a business. So for people to over believe that I'm like, the smartest guy in the room is the wrong thing. I'm just putting one foot in front of the other
Starting point is 00:21:31 and trying to do what I get to do. So, but you've created a thousand jobs. You've done that 500 vets that you've given them a job. So I remember when you go through the ETS process and you go through, not maps, what is the other one I remember when you go through the ETS process and you're going through, not maps, what is the other one that you kind of go through? It's like six weeks. And, uh, hey, you know, here's a job opportunity. You know, I was going to be a cop at Fort Lauderdale mall. They offered me 36 grand and I'm living in LA. I'm from LA. I'm from Grenade Hills.
Starting point is 00:21:57 I'm like, am I going to go take this job at the Fort Lauderdale? We're building a new mall. Would you like to be a cop here? Literally, $36,000 out of your salary. And okay, you can go do this. You can go work with post office. If you take the test, you get an additional 10 points. You can be a firefighter, but there's a freezing L.A. That whole process when you're going out of it, it's like you're going from hardcore routine,
Starting point is 00:22:16 hardcore formation, hardcore structure, tonight you're a civilian. And in the military, in the test transition, you know, I think you talk about transition or anything in life, anytime you're transition and that's not a, that's not easy, you know, when people go through a transition process. So for you to help, currently, I'm sure you got some higher, more than 500 vets, but currently to have 500 active vets that are working with you guys, you know, you're, you're helping in a way, the government, you're doing government's
Starting point is 00:22:42 job without taxpayers needing to support those vets. You're giving them a job with they're able to have dignity and pride in the work that they're doing. And I think that needs to be celebrated. And they need to say thank you to you for what you guys have been doing rather than the other way around. Well, we're stoked because the DOD and a lot of leadership, specifically in some of these old soft units, are making really good decisions I think as far as when people are getting out so we've been working with the DOD like with skill bridge programs And it's something that I wish could have happened to me, but probably good it didn't is when about six months before someone's getting out of the military
Starting point is 00:23:17 They'll actually pay their the DOD will pay their military salary They come and work for us for six months and intern within the company. And then from there, a lot of the time, more than not, we'll hire them on as a direct hire right there, because they got to learn. And if not, then they at least get to see and taste what it feels like to be in the civilian sector and more of like our realm. So if they go somewhere else.
Starting point is 00:23:37 So it's helping with that transition stuff. And we've had quite a few of those coming through the doors lately, and it's a really rad program. And how long have they been doing that? That transition? Specifically, the O.D. Skillbridge stuff, I'm not sure how long that program existed with us. I think we got involved about two years ago.
Starting point is 00:23:54 That's cool. That's great. Go ahead. Here's my question for you, bro. I mean, you're a patriot who served our country. And your book was, thank you for my service. So thank you for your service. You're a patriot who served our country. Now you're serving coffee to Americans. So respect.
Starting point is 00:24:09 But my question, because I think only 7% of living Americans have served in the military, right? I didn't serve in the military. I've actually been around more military people since joining the entertainment, hanging with Pat and Saipala and Eric and Chris, like some of my very closest good friends. But a lot of Americans don't have experience with military. I think less than 1%, 0.1% are active in the military. So what I'm trying to understand is mostly for people watching this, I assume 90-something percent people have never served in the military, I want to understand the culture a little bit better,
Starting point is 00:24:43 because if you're not around it, you don't get it You don't get why people in the military love two ways so much, right? What the brotherhood is what you've had always talked about the camaraderie So I mean you're hiring veterans. You're around these people. You're empowering these people What I understand is what is it like? Why does the military obviously Or is it proponents of the Second Amendment? Why what is it about the military that people just don't understand the brotherhood of the military? Well, a lot of, most people that were war fighters and infantry special operations tend to be proponents of the Second Amendment because when you're deployed, like, black rifle,
Starting point is 00:25:18 coffee, black rifle, that's a life saving equipment, that's a life saving tool. Everywhere you go, I slept with that thing. I went to chow with it, you know? That is the difference between saving my own life and my teammates life and not being very proficient with it. And it's a tool. And a lot of this, like the civilian side, it's never touched a gun, right?
Starting point is 00:25:35 You're scared of what you don't know, but that's what we did. We handed it every day. We know how to save handle it. And I mean, I carry a gun every single day in Texas because I mean, if something happens, and I'm not to get too far into it, but like when people, oh, more guns,
Starting point is 00:25:50 we'll fix the gun problem. We just saw it happen in Indiana when an inactive shooter shot, I think two or three people and a concealed carry license holder shot, the guy saved countless lives. So for me, that's the whole reason. It's a tool and it's a tool of safety. And that comes from, I think, a lot of us just carrying those in our background. But, yeah,
Starting point is 00:26:10 to the culture side of the military man, it was just, we lived in a tent together for months, upon months. And so you just kind of have this bond that never changes. I had the opportunity to see my two best friends I've known for 18 years. I went to basic training, airborne, rip, ranger school, war. So we got a drink whiskey until war stories that this begins. That's cool. I haven't talked to them in months
Starting point is 00:26:34 and we just pick it up right where we left off and something like that. I'm very blessed to be part of. In your videos, because it's not all glory, it's not all glorified. I mean, in your videos, some of your best friends in your videos, half of them have friends in your videos half of them have Freakin no legs bro or missing an arm like I'm like holy shit this guy's doing comedy
Starting point is 00:26:49 He's doing satire. He's being funny, but at the same time just looking at the images guys are missing limbs How do you grapple with the the humor of life? But also some of the the downs of being in the military I can't speak for you know all Amputee's anybody. I can't speak for, you know, all amputees or anybody, I'm not amputees, so I can't say anything. But I will say like most of my friends who are missing limbs, they want to be treated like they're human.
Starting point is 00:27:13 And I think a lot of times with visible warrantries, people treat them differently, and they just want to be a part of the crew. And that's why you see a lot of the jokes that we make, where I think crispy omur, of you know, he rolls the lawn mower and pretends to chop his leg off and then you know stuff like that. So it's kind of humor through horror kind of I wear we just have to laugh about it because
Starting point is 00:27:34 you can't change what happened you can only change what hopefully will happen. Do these guys have regrets missing limbs or do they wish they never went to the military? Do they double down and say no is the best decision of my life? I'm trying to understand the mindset, especially when you lose limbs for your country. I would say that we should be very thankful that such men and women exist that can lose limbs and say, I'm happy and I would do it over in a heartbeat.
Starting point is 00:27:55 One of my mentors, Clint Trial, absolute bad-ass dude. Over 20 years in the military, last deployment got both his legs blown off and he works with us now, and he's been like a mentor, and I sit down and talk this guy. I just wanna go like, do push-ups, you know? Like swing a kettlebell, because his perspective on life
Starting point is 00:28:13 through all the tragedy that he's had is just absolutely brilliant. And I wish more people would sit down over a cup of coffee and listen to a gentleman like. Pat, all the time talks about, like I feel like that's like your fondest memories of life is your time in the military and the camaraderie. And you've had friends come in here on the show
Starting point is 00:28:30 and be a part of this. What's your take on that? I know, that's interesting. I mean, he's at a different level. You've got five, you know, you're talking about, he made it to the pinnacle of experience on what you do with the military. You know, to do what he did.
Starting point is 00:28:44 But the main word you'll hear from almost everybody in the military is the seaworth, it's camaraderie. That camaraderie. And by the way, here's the part. If you have thin skin, you're not going to make in the military because the jokes, if 10% of the jokes were seen in the public, like, you know, you know, military, they can't do vlogs because the YouTube channel would in the public. Like, you know, you know, military, they can't do vlogs because the YouTube channel
Starting point is 00:29:06 would be shut down. The Indians are like, they would offend everybody. The jokes are so direct and painful that you're either gonna be able to handle or you're gonna say, I gotta transfer to a different unit. So it toughened you up, you built a France relationships and you see anyone like the other day, one of my guys sent me a message,
Starting point is 00:29:24 Klingerman. Klingerman, this guy was was funny he was a guy that played football in Ohio so we'd go to bars in Clarksville and we'd go drinking here's how he was he would drink one two three four five ten fifteen twenty I mean he's drinking right when he comes out if he didn't meet a girl guess what he's doing getting in a fist fight oh first of all that's not a matter. Because he was a linebacker. This guy almost made it to the next level. If he didn't meet a girl, no joke.
Starting point is 00:29:52 His head is going into a car's window. She, I mean, we have to like, not tonight. Ah, bam, he would, To entertain you guys. Who's that part of it? I was just frustrated. It was almost like the movie, remember the program, remember the movie, the the program course without one guy would go in
Starting point is 00:30:07 You know with his psychopath you paint his face of the blonde, but you know Crazy of a guy's he was everybody loved. Yeah, that's crazy These one you're all you tell these stories and people are like but Pat that's not normal Yeah, you listen you buy your normal. This is our normal. It is what it is Well, the reason that I'm so freaking fast handed by this because I played college football Tom's enter also played college football There's a level of camaraderie and manliness and like, you know like but I feel like in the military It's even more enhanced like the camaraderie football is cool. We get along
Starting point is 00:30:37 We know we battle in you know punch each other in the face and all that but military. It's life for death If there's not it's not life for death for a football. It's not life or death for a football. It's a big problem for throwing a bomb. Sure, that's what I'm sure. It is very similar. I think I get along with a lot of pro athletes. I have a lot of UFC fighters that are my friends, just because the culture is the same.
Starting point is 00:30:54 It's put in the hard work. I know, love your can and then have some fun. It's pretty simple. Remember, one you're doing for a team, one you're doing for a country. Right, no, I'm not. And one is life and death Yeah, yeah, so but but I mean I'm sure it's very close to
Starting point is 00:31:10 To I'm saying it's probably not very close. That's the closest thing. I can't do Athletes and I see them see old friends that they play true like that one time you brought a friend We went to yard house who was the guy that was a basketball player Oh, it's a row and he was saying Charles What do you say that their waitress came up and said, Charles Barclay's the greatest player of all time? Yeah, I'm like, what are you talking about? Just this Michael George is not even in top 10.
Starting point is 00:31:31 Do you remember that we found this thing? Yeah, exactly, that's very weird. That's what I remember about your friend. Yeah. The waitress is what I remember. Yeah, but you remember him? He used to play basketball. That guy was all county, 10th, 11th grade, 12th grade.
Starting point is 00:31:40 He was amazing. And just you guys exchanging stories that you've been obtained in for. Again, to Tom's point, that we were never life or dead But football of any sport I'd say that closest well, let me just let me do it. So so then then Matt Let me do it for him. I don't can't he wants to do it I'm gonna do it on behalf of Adam Adam's asking if you can make any contacts where the military can make an exception where a 41-year-old man can join a military
Starting point is 00:32:02 A couple weeks of basic training. I do want to go shooting though. I've never shot a gun. How about that? Is that crazy? What? Yeah, do you see his mind just shot a gun never shot a gun? Dude, I shot my first. I think a shot when I was four. Yeah, but this is what I'm saying. I've never shot a gun. Exactly. I live in Miami. I live in San- have you ever shot a gun? Yeah, it's a very minimal times. I've shot 50 something years old 10 years old I'm here for verbal warfare Yeah, I own a 20 millimeter. I own an anti-material But brother, this is the point of this is the point of my question is that like there's a lot of guys out there We played football. It's not like we're fucking pussy's like we we battled on the grid iron
Starting point is 00:32:41 But very few Americans have served in the military and that's like I want to go shoot a gun just to fucking feel what it's like. You sleep when they're gone. Brains are gone. And you don't have to access any time you're all invited. Adam and I are bookending two guys that have more artillery than some countries, I think. Well, then why don't you do this? I think we got a couple guys right after we're done. I'm going to talk to the finish.
Starting point is 00:32:59 Yeah. Let's just go get it done today. And pop your cherry today. But you know, there's a large percentage of Americans who when they see, like you did a video that the gun-free zone video. Yeah, hilarious, bro. Like robbers come in guns, you bust out your shirt
Starting point is 00:33:14 and it says gun-free zone, and they're like, oh, okay, I guess we'll put down like, the way that you use satire to make fun of these situations. I think it's truly admirable, but a large swath of Americans really have never shot a gun. They don't get it, they don't get gun culture. I'm trying to let them understand and soak the knowledge out of you of why it's so important.
Starting point is 00:33:32 Yeah, I mean, especially that one, I made fun of that because it's my way of combating some of these ridiculous narratives that I believe for gun control where, you know, you're putting a sign up that says, you're an easy target, sounds pretty stupid to me. Like, school's like your sign. Just like even in my house,
Starting point is 00:33:45 if I was like, hey guys, no guns, no dogs either. Just come on in, and then like, here's my Instagram, so you can see when I'm out of town, are you that stupid and like benign in your brain that you can't understand that there's evil in the world and the only person that can protect you is yourself. Come on. But by the way, you know,
Starting point is 00:34:03 whether you have guns or not not you probably would benefit from saying You have you put a sign outside your house that says this house. We have guns shotguns and you say a Freaking rotwiler or a hit pull Lives here attack whether lives here whether There's a Probably say horrible marketing now you may get some, some, what do you call it? Some socialist flyers of somebody that's running for office that are gonna put in front of your building or your house,
Starting point is 00:34:30 but you're not gonna have to worry about somebody burying into your house. Interesting perspective. So okay, did you have any other meal with the questions? Or more can we transition? This is great. Did Jerry Jones have your back during that controversy? Did he call you and say, hey man, I got this covered?
Starting point is 00:34:42 Cause I get heat alleviated some of that heat with his power. Yeah, Jerry's absolutely amazing. And I mean, from what I heard, he was stoked on the release. My business partner, Evan, has direct comms with him. So I'm not that important to talk to Jerry Jones. I don't think I don't rate that high, you know, prediction. Well, the Cowboys won a championship while Jerry Jones is alive. Still, I mean, I'm back there caffeinating them all black or for coffee while Jerry Jones is alive. Still, I mean, I'll be back there caffeinating him all black or photography.
Starting point is 00:35:05 While Jerry Jones is alive, wow, you went there, huh? So you don't think they're gonna win one by one. I don't. I think he needs to step down, move away. I think he's overrated. I think he's overrated. I think he's overrated. I think he's overrated.
Starting point is 00:35:16 I think he's overrated. I think he's overrated. I think he's overrated. I think he's overrated. I think he's overrated. I think he's overrated. I think he's overrated. I think he's overrated.
Starting point is 00:35:23 I think he's overrated. I think he's overrated. I think he's overrated. I think he's overrated. I think he's over in. I just don't see them winning with him now. With him as what could I think it starts with a quarterback, but that's another conversation. They've got a top five quarterback. They got a lead to back to the back. No, no, no, no. Abert Dallas is one of the best. Okay.
Starting point is 00:35:33 It's just they shit the bed in the playoffs. They have over one. They have it one for a long, long time. It's been 25, 26 years that they haven't won. It's been a minute since they won. We're going to win the season. How about that this season? Yeah, prediction time. Black rival golf. In the bank gamble here, I years that they haven't won. It's been a minute since they won. We're going to win the season. How about that this season? Yeah, prediction time. Black rival.
Starting point is 00:35:47 And we'll hear a bet five bucks on it. Let's go. You got a bet. You shake out. We'll win this season. Let's shake out five. There we go, Mad Bucks. Adam and Mad have a bet. Five bucks. The playoffs. A first round playoff. He's saying super. Five bucks or one third of a can or take a guess or like I'll come collect and tube, bro. He is a collector.
Starting point is 00:36:07 Okay. Okay. Sounds good. You guys mind if we get into some stories? No, I've learned a lot. Thank you. Let's get some stories here. So one of the ones I want to hit up is how the White House is handling inflation.
Starting point is 00:36:18 If you guys are okay with that, let's go into that one. Page six. Okay. So here we go. The White House wants to redefine recession ahead of possibility of disastrous GDP report. Economic commentators frequently use two consecutive quarters of negative GDP growth as rule of thumb that an economy is in recession. While the economy shrank by 1.4% of first quarter, President Biden's economic team argued that even
Starting point is 00:36:43 of second quarter GDP is, uh, negative, it's still unlikely that would indicate the economy isn't a recession. The National Bureau of Economic Research defines a recession as a significant decline in economic activity that is spread across the economy and lasts more than a few months and looks at everything from inflation-adjusted income, various employment statistics, consumption expenditures, and industrial production. Google, however, defines the phenomenon as a period temporary economic defined,
Starting point is 00:37:10 decline during which trade and industrial activity are reduced generally identified by a fault in GDP in two consecutive quarters. Can you do me if I ever go to Twitter, go to Twitter if you can? And go to Twitter. Yeah, go to my Twitter, the last thing what White House released on July 21st.
Starting point is 00:37:28 I think everybody has to see this. Go up a little bit. It's so interesting when they do it and how they do it. Keep going up, keep going up, it should come up on the next one. Go a little lower, go a little lower, right there, click on that one. Oh my God, it does that every single time, huh?
Starting point is 00:37:44 Give me a second. I got you. Okay, so when you read that tweet, you know, what the White House released, that was released July 21st, which is what? Five days ago, I think today's the 26th. Make it bigger so they can see it. Just click on the... No, just click on... Yeah, click on that. Zoom out a little bit. Okay, watch that. Yeah, click on that. Zoom out a little bit, okay, watch that. So what is a recession? While some maintain that two consecutive quarters of fallen real GDP constitute a recession
Starting point is 00:38:11 that is neither the official definition nor the way economists evaluate the state of the business cycle instead, both official determinations of recessions and economists assessment of economic activity are based on holistic. Look at the data, including the labor market, consuming on business spending, industrial production, incomes, based on these data, it is unlikely that the decline in GDP in the
Starting point is 00:38:34 first quarter of this year, even this is the keyword here, this is the keyword, this is protecting to say they're about to announce that there was a decline in the GDP second quarter watch out and ends up even if it followed By an even if followed by another GDP decline in second quarter indicates a recession Now this isn't trying to redefine a recession pre midterms. I don't know what is Tom. What do you think about this? You know, it's just I think they're testing our limits to just how stupid. Yeah. You know, we, we think we are. They are. It's, it's just not working anymore. In order to sell this, you need other than very creative writers. And they have some, I mean, I give them credit for trying this spin, but the realities are out there. Everybody's dealing with this on a daily basis. And there's no credibility coming back from the White House anymore.
Starting point is 00:39:23 Like, you would believe them if they said that. We all know the situation right now. I think they spend so much time ignoring the real issues, not finding ways to fix problems that they start believing at themselves. And every day, there's something new that they're trying to brainwash us with and newsflash. We're just not that stupid.
Starting point is 00:39:44 I think collectively people are waking up. Yeah. For me, it's more like a, it's way else. It's like cloud over country where all they care about is the feel good virtue signaling stuff as they just watch like economic collapse happen. And then I mean, to your to the point there, I mean, they're, they're making excuses already and they're lying. Well, they know what's coming. They know that report is going to come. That's like saying, just because this tastes like water and the second tastes like water, it's not water. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:11 And we're smarter than you. You have to believe us, man. That's not water. I guess not water. Yeah, because we make all the definitions you don't. Adam, would you trust them anymore? Like, come on, like over the pandemic. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:23 And they're coming in here. Does anybody believe this? That's the point, though. That's, I think that's the main question, because what's the approval rating? What approval rating just came out? I saw something. Three.
Starting point is 00:40:34 Because I know Adam always talks about that as bad as his approval rating is it's not lower than Trump. This might be worse now. Yeah, his approval rating is the lowest, like all time low, beating out Trump so if I'm correct though the Trump's approval rating was like at the end of his term Right, it was at the very end where cold is doing cold Yeah, and then after the January stuff But this is like this is now, you know, not even two years into it. I don't what do you think when you hear this kind of a you know
Starting point is 00:41:01 Well, I think they narrative the the GDP Report is supposed to come out on Thursday. I believe and I don't believe that there think when you hear this kind of, you know, well, I think the, the GDP report is supposed to come out on Thursday, I believe, and I don't believe that there's going to be a pretty picture in sight. So right there now, they're trying to do a spin job. They have what's a new press secretary, Kareen, St. Pierre, she's out there sort of doing like mental wrestling, trying to redefine what a recession is. But whether they come out and say it's a recession or not, I think Americans feel what's going on, right,
Starting point is 00:41:27 with inflation, with surging home prices, people feel it. So they're gonna, look, whether it's Republican or Democrat and nobody wants to own that you have, yeah, we have it. You know, congratulations, you're gonna try to do a spin job. But at the end of the day, the voters are gonna have, you know, their opportunity to say what's on their mind this November in the midterms. And we'll see what happens. But clearly, economically, it's not a pretty sight in America right now.
Starting point is 00:41:51 We talk about the Fed doing the quantitative tightening right now. So they're saying that inflation is what it reached 9.1% in June. They're starting to say that it's coming down. They're starting to say that gas prices are coming down. And whether you're a Democrat or a Republican, I think we all are on the same page. We want prices to go down. We want inflation to go down.
Starting point is 00:42:10 We don't want a shitty economy. So we'll see what kind of spin job they do. But for the sake of the country, I'd like to see us not in a recession, but like you talked about on your housing, real estate housing segment that you did recently, I think the what my fear is it is the worst still upon us like if this is the worst of the worst right now I
Starting point is 00:42:33 think Americans have dealt with it is the worst is something worse coming I think that's the question right now. So I'm going to read this from an economist if you can pull this one up because this is all over the place Here's an economist his name is Noreal Rubini just so you know who no real Rubini is he's an Iranian American economist he teaches at NYU Stern school of business and chairman of Rubini macro associate. So this is not a regular guy. He got his degree from Harvard and He's done very well for himself he also want to Hebrew University of Jerusalem I know you were first so so
Starting point is 00:43:08 economists shallow recession calls are totally delusional rubiny war so this is a Bloomberg article he said the US is facing a deep recession as interest rates rise and the economy is burdened by high debt loads. Calling those expecting a shallow downturn Delusional there are many reasons why we are going to have a severe Recession and a severe debt and financial crisis the chairman and chief executive of Macro Associates said on Bloomberg TV on Monday the idea that this is going to be short and shallow as totally Delusional look you got two. You pick and choose who you want to believe. Okay. I was in LA this last week and I was given the talk and I decided to open up
Starting point is 00:43:52 my message in a complete different way. On Wednesday night, we had a dinner with one of our lawyers, entertainment lawyers, solid guy. We went to cross stations, great conversation. Anytime I go to dinner with a lawyer, I have a time clock where I said at 45 minutes, I'm gonna say I got an emergency call, we gotta go, it's been great seeing you, but this lawyer is a money that way. Two and a half hours later, we're having a blast, funny guy, and he's a badass.
Starting point is 00:44:17 And so we're sitting where I have it, I said, Pat, you won't believe it. You know, I just, my house in Tuluka Lake, 2000 square feet, three bedrooms, right? And I've tried to, my house in Tuluka Lake, 2,000 square feet, three bedrooms. Right, and I've tried to van nice, like, to look a lake chandelier. He says, $1.8 million. He says, I can't even believe it.
Starting point is 00:44:32 He says, how can you live in a one point, who can afford a $1.8 million house, three bedrooms? So I go and I'm giving this speech at Santa Monica. I went to Santa Monica and I spoke at Manabello and at Grenada Hills. So here's how I opened it up. I got a question for you guys. I said, raise your hand if you have no plans of leaving California in the next three to five years.
Starting point is 00:44:52 I just looked at them and I was like, what? I mean, I asked this question one more time. Raise your hand if you have no plans of leaving the states you love in the next three to five years. 70% of hands go up. That's 70% is, to me it's low. I thought it was gonna be higher. They have no plans.
Starting point is 00:45:10 No plans of leaving in an X-3 to five. And how many people in the room by the way? 400 people. Okay. So 300 people are not leaving. Dude, so 300 people are not leaving. So I said raise your hand. If for the first time in your life,
Starting point is 00:45:21 you're actually considering leaving the state of California 30% will leave their mom like okay interesting 100 people though. It's a lot of people So I said the phone I said can I just speak to the people that are planning on staying here? Yes, absolutely. I said if you're staying in California what you're telling the world is You like being part of the state that has the highest gas prices, okay? You're okay with that You're saying you're okay with being in the state that has the highest state taxes period. You're okay with that. You're saying you don't mind being in a state with the highest all in taxes. You're okay with that. You're saying you don't mind being in a state that has the highest homelessness in America. You're okay with that. As a duet, I'm going to continue. You don't mind having the most, by the
Starting point is 00:46:00 way, this Friday, they're announcing masks are coming back in LA just so you know, I said, you don't mind. Stop. This is, this is is an LA you can see that you don't mind the fact that you're overly regulated controlled everyone's telling you everything you need to be doing you're okay with that right I said do you still planning on staying here their hands were yep we're still planning on staying I said no problem then if you're planning on staying here why don't we do a little bit of math together that's a short let's do it I said a friend of mine had I didn't know with two nights ago He said he just sold his 2000 square foot house barely 2000 square feet three bedroom two bathroom for 1.8 million dollars I said do we have a realtor here?
Starting point is 00:46:34 Lady stands up as it can you help me do math here together? Yes, if I'm buying a 1.8 million dollar house That's only 2,000 square feet barely in this three bedroom If I got a family of four, I can barely live in this place. How much of a down payment do I need to put on this one point eight million dollar house? She says 10% minimum. I said, what's 10% of 1.8 million? 180. How many middle Americans in California have a hundred and eighty thousand dollars? Not a level. Let's just say you got it.
Starting point is 00:46:58 So you put a hundred and eighty thousand dollars down that one point eight. Now you're financing what? One point six to I say, can you tell me what's a mortgage payment on 1.62 She says roughly $12,000 PNI everything in close a perfect fine I said this $12,000 I make is it pre-tax money or after tax money she says that's after tax money So so what do I need to make pre-tax? You need to she says around $20,000 to a four 12,000 dollars. That's's perfect. I said, is everyone tracking their like, we're tracking. That's perfect.
Starting point is 00:47:27 What is the number, typically, you're only supposed to spend per month on your mortgage payment? Isn't it supposed to be a third? It's supposed to be a third. So, for a two thousand square foot house, that's only three bedroom. If you need to make 20 grand pre-tax money, what do you need to make to be able to afford a third ever going to mortgage payment? They said $60,000. I said, what's that times, 12, 7, 20? You need to make 20 grand pre-tax money. What do you need to make to be able to afford a third of a go into mortgage payment?
Starting point is 00:47:46 They said $60,000. I said, what's that times, 12, 7, 20? I said, how many guys are gonna make 7, 20 in California the next 30 to five years? I said, now let me ask you this, how many are still planning on staying in the state of California? You should say, you see what happened.
Starting point is 00:48:00 I said, how many of you just based on that are open to the idea of leaving the state in the next 30 to five years? You know what happened? What happened? Of the 70% half of them raised their hands and they said, that's just not sustainable. I said, then let me speak to the other guys that are planning on staying here. How the hell are you going to get to 720?
Starting point is 00:48:15 Tell me I'm curious. Yeah. I really want to know. The numbers just don't make sense. I mean, what do you want? The median income in this country is 50 grand. And Bob's talking about making 700 grand. Here's what's the gap is ridiculous.
Starting point is 00:48:27 And on top of that, at all of this inflation, at all of this stuff that's going on, how are you gonna be ready for this? I don't understand how people in California survive. Well, why are you guys looking at me? By the way, the weather's great. Yeah. And the rain's just won the Super Bowl.
Starting point is 00:48:41 Even on top of that too, it just the pressure that the federal government did with the lockdowns in state, specifically in California. I mean, they just ruined the middle class and then the inflation right after. I mean, it's the whole like who gets the judge in essential business, you know, and then you look at states like this great state of Florida and to Santhus who I hope is president one day and Texas, like they incentivize small businesses and they, you know, and that's what we should be doing rather than letting these, you know, conglomerate huge corporations
Starting point is 00:49:10 just swallow up the small man like it sucks. They pat to your point about mass coming back in LA. So about I'd say about a week and a half ago, I started getting the alerts from the LA times on my phone. I know week, the numbers are up where there's probably, I couldn't believe it. I was so depressed. I mean, literally, I could not believe what I was reading and they kept throwing it at you for the next three or four days.
Starting point is 00:49:32 A couple of days ago, the LA time sent out a little alert that said that the levels have tapered down a little bit. So I bet there's some powerful forces in LA that are saying there is no damn way you're doing that again because I don't know, man, I'd be shocked if they do it again. It was trending that way, but I just saw one that said that the numbers have gone down a little. So, you know, LA is on a tipping point right now because we have a mayor election coming up this fall.
Starting point is 00:49:57 And there is a progressive on one side and there's Rick Caruso on the other side who I believe personally will fix L.A. I mean, he's got a background of doing that. He's very tough. He ran as a Democrat, even though he's a businessman. He saved USC. I mean, if you want a fascinating read, look up in the L.A. times the story about how Rick Caruso
Starting point is 00:50:17 was brought in as the de facto CEO of USC after they were facing billions of dollars in settlements from a rogue doctor, abusing patients and whatnot. I mean, they couldn't have been lower. He brought in the new football coach, essentially Lincoln Riley. He got them back from being on it in debt from these huge payments. He saved USC. This guy's smart.
Starting point is 00:50:36 He'll fix homelessness. He'll bring hope to people. I think he'll help with business. I mean, this is a big, big thing coming up in November in California with that mayor election in LA. On Friday night, we had dinner with a couple guys that are, you know, Hollywood type of guys, you know, actors, producers, directors, and we're having dinner with them. And I said, so you guys politically, you don't lean towards the right.
Starting point is 00:51:00 You lean towards the left. This is what side you've been on. Yeah, what about it? How do you feel about what's going on in your city and your state? What do you think about masks next week? What do you think about your governor? And you'd be amazed what they said.
Starting point is 00:51:12 They said, Pat, low key, there aren't many people in Hollywood that support this guy. But what's the alternative if you're gonna be vocal about it? You have to, so- If you're in the entertainment industry, you have to. Even in the entertainment business, you either support just to get career advancement or you
Starting point is 00:51:30 just don't talk about it. Okay. They're not happy about them. Ask, can you pull up that NBC story? I just sent you. Look at this. LA County Indoor Mask Man, they could come back this week. Look at the date.
Starting point is 00:51:39 Yes, the date. July 25th. There you go. LA County Indoor Mask Man, they I'm not going back this week. I think you nailed it on the head though, because cancel culture isn't just like in a media internet thing. It is in professional, like Los Angeles.
Starting point is 00:51:54 A lot of my friends who are actors will on the side, like whisper in my ear, I have a clock at the house and I, you know, but they're, if they were to say that to anybody on set, they're fired in a heart over because they have a gun you're saying Oh, they say that they made it that's that that's just how it starts right? Oh, I heard he's a gun owner and then it's like well He he looked at me weird. He he sexually saw and then it's it's the cancel the cancel play, you know They do it to so many people but to Matt's point here
Starting point is 00:52:22 So you guys heard about shepel show they that got canceled many apples. So we got first avenue. All right, he's performed. That's Prince's club. Remember first avenue, Purple Rain, Epic club in downtown Minneapolis, all set to perform. They cancel on him on Wednesday. So then a different theater booked him anyone over there and did some killer shows. But they talked to the people like, why would you do this? And they sent it was about the trends, right? The trans topic. And the owners of first avenue were saying,
Starting point is 00:52:48 hey, we have to do it. Our lives were being threatened. Our family's lives were by who? By who? By trans supporters. The ones that came out there and protested and were throwing eggs at people waiting in line. So to everybody's point here,
Starting point is 00:53:00 just because they're acting some way publicly, doesn't mean that's how they really feel, but people's hands are tied. They're backed into a corner Let me tell you what I did. So While I was there this is this is what I think a lot of people need to be doing Okay, and and if you're listening to this if you don't like your state Well do something about it. So pal, what can I do about it? Very simple. Let me simplify it for you number one if you know people that would make great governors
Starting point is 00:53:29 Go challenge them to run and back them up if you think somebody is a person that would be a good leader Go have a serious conversation with them one of the days while we're in LA. I go to a very Very very well-known man named Dudley. And I sat down with him for 45. I said, so tell me how's California been last? Obviously, I'm first trying to recruit him to Florida. It's the first thing I do. Then if you say no to move in Florida or Texas,
Starting point is 00:53:54 and then I say, you're planning on staying here? Yes, perfect. You do wanna stay here? Yes, you love your state, yes. You wanna do something about it? Yes. Why don't you run? Why do I need to run?
Starting point is 00:54:04 Who else needs to run? If none of the great leaders who have backbone wanna run, then who the hell is you run? Why do I need to run? Who else needs to run? If none of the great leaders who have backbone want to run, then who the hell is going to run? Is it always going to be somebody else that's going to run? If you love your state, you love the policies, well, my way of contributing is in a different way. Totally get it. I mean, we all have a different way of contributing,
Starting point is 00:54:20 but eventually, if you really want to change policies, you got to run. Yeah, but it's not pretty. Of course, it's not pretty. It's not supposed to be attractive. It's not supposed to be but go run. It is the only way if the people in California truly want their state to improve, get behind a candidate and rally. Rally and be a flag carrier like never before. Do whatever you can for that person to get elected and then help make some changes. It is worth it. Or if that's not what you wanna do,
Starting point is 00:54:53 you can't sit on the sidelines and say, well, you know, maybe one day, yeah, maybe one day, yeah, maybe one day, yeah, maybe one day, yeah, maybe one day, no. Then you have the choice that you gotta make for your family. So one guy said, well, Pat, you know, I'm not gonna leave. I'm going to stay here. Okay.
Starting point is 00:55:08 So let me ask you a question. What's your point? You sound brave when you say the way you say it. Like others who leave are less brave than you. So let me ask you a question. Didn't your parents leave another country to come to America? Are your parents not brave? If they left Mexico to come here, will your parents not brave?
Starting point is 00:55:23 If my family left Iran to come here, are they parents not break? If my family left Iran to come here, are they should they have stuck it out in Iran, either impact through policies or make the better choice and move. But the pain must be felt. And you know what, I think if they don't have the wherewithal or the ability to run for governor and they're powerful and important
Starting point is 00:55:43 and they could have influence, somebody has to stand up and support a candidate that goes against the grain. That you're going to take some public backlash from it. I think that would almost be as brave as running for a... Don't you, if some powerful person in Hollywood supported a record... It does happen a little bit, but you get the Jeffrey Katzenbergs of the world who are just attacking Karuso and whatnot. But even if you couldn't run for governor,
Starting point is 00:56:05 I think if you supported somebody that was pro business or wanted to actually clean up a state, I mean, that's bravery too. Have we invited Karuso yet or no? I don't know if we have, we can. Can you text Rob and say, let's invite him? I mean, I know it's Florida, but we get him a few million eyeballs. I'd love to speak with him.
Starting point is 00:56:20 Hey, can I ask you guys a question? Just back on the recession thing, I'm curious about this because I have a theory. So regarding the recession, how cognitive do you think Joe Biden is? Literally. Do you think he's driving anything? Do you think he has any original ideas? What's whoever because here's my thought?
Starting point is 00:56:36 There's no way in hell he's on the ticket in 2024 and he knows it. So I think if he's cognitive enough that he's thinking about legacy right now, he spent his whole life in government. And I think it's his motivation is to not be the worst president. So he's making day-to-day survival decisions, not leadership decisions, because he's trending to be as bad as Jimmy Carter. I mean, that's who you compare him to right now. So my question is, do you think he has, is he calling the shots on any of this or is he just back hopefully
Starting point is 00:57:09 reading the prompt or not screwing that up? I mean, that's, I think that he's waking up in the morning to a B 12 shot and his handlers and their whole goal is for him not to say something stupid. I don't think anything's coming out of him. I think it's is corrupt team that's pushing this progressive narrative. I mean all the all the status there like when he has a Q card telling him where to sit at your chair and you have to capitalize your I mean at this point you're not even coherent and I was making fun of it there for a while but to me as like an American and I love this country like my family. It is my family. family, it's given me everything, it's terrifying. It's absolutely fucking terrifying. And then, whenever he goes, hey, well, he needs to step down,
Starting point is 00:57:50 I'm like, so you want Kamala Harris in there? Like, it's just, it's bad form right now. And bro, I don't even think Democrats want him to step down because they're afraid Kamala to run it, because it's even gonna be worse. Now, notice how much they hide Kamala from the camera. So it's not like, I know it's a, you can't find her anywhere these days.
Starting point is 00:58:07 No, by the way, you know what, I knew a lot of good friends in high school and in middle school and junior high school. And this is pure shout out to Kamala Harris. I had a lot of good friends that would grade at hide and go seek, she's the champion. I mean, I've never met anybody that's good as she is at it. Do you think, like, what's your opinion on Biden right now?
Starting point is 00:58:27 Because, I mean, where does it go? So for me, I've said this many times, I think in life, in companies, do sooner you realize whether you are a number one, a number two, a number three, a number four, or a number five, six, seven, eight, nine, 10, the better you're going to do. If you plug in an eight to be the one that company is going to collapse. If you put a one in a seven, you're under utilizing the one,
Starting point is 00:58:55 and eventually that seven is going to leave and be a one elsewhere. But a one is a one, and a five is a five, and you just have to understand that. It took Carmelo years to realize that you want to win a championship, you're not going to win as a one and a five is a five and you just have to understand that it took Carmelo years to realize that you want to win a championship, you're not going to win as a one. AI didn't win as a one. Okay. Westbrook. So court. So you have to know. And by the way, this is by far one of the hardest thing to embrace. It's the hardest thing to embrace to know that you're not a one, okay? So biting to me I think Bernie Sanders is more a one than he's a number one I know the sounds weird, but forget about being a socialist. I think Sanders is a in the socialist community He is a one. I think in the Democratic policies. I don't think he's a one
Starting point is 00:59:40 I think there's plenty of guys that would be better ones than he would be So I don't see the guys the one. I think there's plenty of guys that would be better ones than he would be. So I don't see the guys a leader. I see him as a potential number two, number three. I don't think two is even high. I think he's a number three, four, five guy. Do you think administration has a responsibility to tell the American public that his health? Or do you saw the interview with Pete?
Starting point is 00:59:59 Did you see the interview with Pete when Pete was being pushed yesterday? I don't know if you guys saw that or not. We are. Pete Buddha Chesh. Did you see that or not? He was being pushed yesterday. I don't know if you guys saw that or not. We are. We are. We are. We are. We are.
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Starting point is 01:00:24 We are. We are. We are. We are. We are. mentally fit to run America. And President Trump wasn't stumbling, and then he shows all these pictures. By the way, you have to see this interview, we'll find it and we'll post it. And he says, President Trump wasn't stumbling. President Trump wasn't shaking hands with ghosts. President Trump wasn't being told where to sit. President Trump wasn't doing any of that stuff.
Starting point is 01:00:40 How come you're not publicly calling out the mental fitness of Joe Biden as you did of Trump and it's 10 times worse. And obviously Pete Buttichet says, I can see the level of insult in your question. So I will dismiss that. He says, no, no, you can't do that. You said, President Trump three years ago wasn't mentally fit to run the country. And he never went through what this guy's going through. He says, well, I'd love to see President Trump ride a bicycle. That's what he said about the fact that there was a doctor that came out and said the same thing,
Starting point is 01:01:10 a doctor that treated Trump and Biden. And he said, what was the consensus? Same thing, I think it was the exact same question. But that's how they respond, right? You put a cat in a bathtub and they just react with violence or anger and then no logic. Just answer the question. You see this everywhere you hear, you see Shapiro put guys in that position.
Starting point is 01:01:28 You see all these, all these, and they just can't respond. They, they get mad and say, well, that's offensive. I'm in and walk out of the interview. Like that's not debate. That's just you being a child. Here's my question. You lost. If you lost, yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:41 If Biden is better as a number two, which I actually fully agree with. I don't think he's, I think he's, I think he's, I think he's, I think he's, I think he's the accidental president, the timing, you know, COVID, Trump, you know, exact, his polling wasn't obviously doing so great. Biden, he was more the conservative Democrat, not the leftist, Bernie Sanders. But would you have a problem if, in fact,
Starting point is 01:02:04 Obama was helping him call the shots behind the scenes or even a Susan Rice? I think that gives me a lot more comfort if someone, quote unquote, grown up in the room was actually helping run the government rather than Biden, meaning he's not exactly who you want in charge or do you want him in charge because he is the president. I don't have a problem if, quote unquote, his handlers. i don't think it's like the daycare staff i think it's susan rice i think it's um... secretary of state i think it's it's it's only blinkin i think there's some people
Starting point is 01:02:34 around him who i do trust enough to control the government so do you have a problem if it's obama actually calling the shots let me ask you question uh... do you think if you're in my ear you can help me be a better basketball You have a problem if it's Obama actually calling the shots. Let me ask you a question. Do you think if you're in my ear, you can help me be a better basketball player? Yeah, I can. You think you can do that?
Starting point is 01:02:51 I can show you form. You can show me form. Just like if I... Can you... He was in my ear, you probably helped me be a better... But shoot, Mark's... But no matter how much you're in my ear, can you help me play in the NBA? No, sir.
Starting point is 01:03:04 Why not? Some things you just can't teach. What if Jordan's in my ear. Can you help me play in the NBA? No sir. Why not? Some things you just can't see what if what if Jordan's in my ear Let's say Jordan every day spends two hours in my ear telling me how to be a better basketball player. I'm not going in the NBA Probably not the NBA, but your mentality The point of luck is everybody has limitations in different areas of life President Biden's limitation at best is a VP of ops, VP of ops, not a president. I'm with you. So even the point I'm trying to make to you is,
Starting point is 01:03:31 I can go and talk to VP of ops to be the CEO of an insurance company. And no matter what I tell that VP of ops in his ear, he's not gonna be able to execute. There's a lot of experiences you need, you need to be a leader and Biden just doesn't have it today. Maybe 30 years ago, I don't know,
Starting point is 01:03:48 maybe it would have been different if his mental fitness was different, but he doesn't have the capacity today to be present. Look, I'm on the same page, I don't think he's a qualified number one. You know, I will say that it's, I haven't seen anything that's like, all right, he has full blown dementia.
Starting point is 01:04:02 He has no clue what he's talking about. I think obviously satire and humor and, all right, he has full blown dementia. He has no clue what he's talking about. I think obviously, satire and humor and doubling down on anything that he does wrong. He fell off the bike. I get it. But is it that bad? I guess that's my question. How bad is it really? I think it's as almost as bad as it can get.
Starting point is 01:04:21 He can't talk. You have to just sit down and listen to an interview. Did you not watch him go end of quote, repeat the line? Like sit there and read the book. He ran, he read the book. Yeah, even in Saudi Arabia. And this is not a sad. You haven't seen it at him.
Starting point is 01:04:33 And that's the thing, it's not like for me, it's like you had a bad day. It's consistency is king and it's consistently awful and it's progressively getting worse. I mean, even look back when he was VP or look back a year ago, like you're seeing a massive decline, like all politics aside, being the president of the United States is a really, really hard job, right? The way to the world, everybody's going to scrutinize you on the left or the right, your travel schedule. It is the hardest job in America, right? So when you put someone with the mental decline that he has in one of the world's most challenging jobs, yeah. And here's the thing he has in one of the world's most challenging jobs. Yeah, and here's the thing he's vulnerable so the progresses are all over him.
Starting point is 01:05:08 I mean, he's just a little sucker right now, fallen for all of that. If he was a CEO, the board of directors would be removing them right about now. Don't you think? Thank you. That's a perfect way of putting it. But by the way, let me ask you this. Do you think he makes it out? Do you think he makes it out? It's a long time, two and a half years. That's a long time, I don't think so. No. You don't think he makes it out. You also don't think he's going to make it out. Do you think he makes it out? It's a long time, two and a half years. That's a long time. I don't think so. No. You don't think he makes it out. You also don't think he's gonna make it out.
Starting point is 01:05:28 In the primaries, he said, I'll come down. Something along the lines of I'll come down with a disease and I'll be switched out. I think that's exactly what I said. Yeah, he did. He said, he's got a joke. Yeah, he said it. But you know what, I think the Democrats are so afraid of Kamala Harris having that, you know, just being in front of the microphone every single day, that they'll prop him up
Starting point is 01:05:46 anyway they possibly can. Like we can get Bernie's if they have to. I actually agree with you. I'm just curious. This is what's crazy. For somebody that's, you know, follows like history, first person to, first person to do this and all that stuff,
Starting point is 01:06:03 I don't know, I don't know if history wants to have Kamala as the first women president. I'd much rather have Hillary as the first in heaven. I know that sounds very weird to say that, but it's very weird. You have a choice between Kamala and Hillary to be the first ever. Unbelievable. She's not even close. She's not even close. She's not even close. She's not even close. Listen, the answer isn't neither.
Starting point is 01:06:27 The answer isn't like, I'm not sitting here campaigning saying, I'm gonna volunteer to go help Hillary, but there's no way, at least Hillary, Hillary was a person that could get up and articulate a message. You know she's BS and you know, a person that could get up and articulate a message. You know she's BS and you know she's just saying whatever's gonna take out that time, but have you ever come all of a given some answers?
Starting point is 01:06:54 And she's always laughing and she's got that weird vibe of the way she speaks. That is a bad idea. I actually don't even think it's close. I think Hillary is way more qualified than a commoner. Okay, whether you like Hillary or not, robotic, you know, paid, whatever, she's killing people, whatever you want to say about Hillary, 50% of America voted for her to be president. She went to Yale.
Starting point is 01:07:13 And she lost by a slim margin to Donald Trump. Kamala didn't even get one percent of the Democratic primary vote. She's not even Ann called the president racist. But here, let me, let me toss on my tin hat for a second because that very statement, I think, justifies an exited Biden at some point during his turn because the progressives will have the opportunity to come all with her influence. We have the opportunity to go the first ever female African American president did not earn, given right?
Starting point is 01:07:40 Participation trophies are real in America. That's what it seems like for me will happen, even if it's six months out or something, I don't know, but it's not earned. I hope you're set. Let me give you a dark, dark perspective that I have in this topic. How much influence you think Hillary has today in America?
Starting point is 01:07:57 A lot, okay. I think a lot still. Oh, bro, bro, let me tell you my assessment, but again, I'm fully, I'm a business guy. I'm an entrepreneur. I'm not a guy that's involved in this world. But I will tell you this. I think she has a lot of influence. And I think the reason why Biden may not step down, if there is even as any influence left is because of Hillary. Hillary Hillary will not, she cannot accept Kamala be in the first president. I don't think, I think if Hillary has any influence, she's probably the one that wakes up every
Starting point is 01:08:33 morning telling Biden's assistant to give him vitamin C, to give him the vitamin B12, to give him TRT, to give him whatever it is that he's on, to just make it for two and a half more years because Hillary over her dead body to have Kamala be a president before her. Anybody but Kamala she would be okay for Michelle to be the first president. She would not be okay with Kamala being the first president. So I think in a way Hillary's keeping Biden in office for another two and a half. By the way, I don't think your assessment is fully wrong at all. If you're talking about someone like Hillary and you're seeing that if Kamala just gets kind of caked walked into the presidency, Hillary's like,
Starting point is 01:09:08 this does not sit well with me at all. But it's not much money I spend on my celebration party. You know, I didn't go down. I really think that part of Biden's main, if he can have these thoughts, is not letting Hunter blow him up. Just keeping that thing so that thing doesn't explode truly because that could just open
Starting point is 01:09:25 a Pandora's box so much. And you know, he's never, that's why governors make good presidents because they've run something, a state. They've made big decisions. When you're a senator for 40 years, what have you done? You run for office every once in a while. You take handouts, you know, you vote, but you're not a leader. You know, you don't do that kind of thing.
Starting point is 01:09:41 So I think this whole hunter, you know, it's so funny because if I have an extra muffin at Starbucks, Shonda knows and I get in trouble. I can't get away with anything. I'm 100 biting get away with all the trouble for having an muffin. I get it. Have you not been black? I mean, that hurt. Yeah. Yeah. Well, yeah, I mean, dude, I love Trump Jr. Great, great dude. And I'm like, I can't imagine under Trump's presidency if he did one, like one ounce of like the, the, the ton that by or a hunter has done. Like, do we, they just completely ignore it now? Like as if it's totally fine to be smoking crack and having sex with prostitutes and all these other things. I mean, do you, buddy, I look like you're having a lot of fun, but you know, not as the, uh, the president.
Starting point is 01:10:22 Well, I don't know if it's ignored. It's like an embarrassment, man. Yeah, I agree with you. There's nothing attractive about the president's son smoking crack with hookers. No doubt. The question is, did he sell his country out or not? And that's where it remains to be seen. So the jury's still out of that.
Starting point is 01:10:37 Real quick, I want to add, you said earlier, you would feel more comfortable if you thought that Obama was running behind the scenes right but that's what's happening it's it's all obama holdovers and then he blinkin was a former deputy deputy secretary of state to obama ron clain was uh... chief of staff to outdoor he was a part of the obama like these are all obama's holdovers and this is exactly what they want by wasn't an accidental president he's exactly who they wanted
Starting point is 01:11:04 they didn't want bernie they ran Bernie out twice because he was closer to Trump than he was to the Democratic Party. And a lot of ways, he was a populist. He was weirdly America first. He was closed the borders. So this is exactly what they want. So I wonder how we'd be better off if that was the case, if it was Obama people.
Starting point is 01:11:20 Again, it just is. This is exactly what they want. Was there a question there? Yeah like you said so I'm asking you how you got to you like you're gonna take that on camera. I don't watch like what are you gonna say time sometimes. I'm gonna point up at you. Yeah okay there it is.
Starting point is 01:11:34 Well no question. You said I would feel better if I thought Obama's people were running the show. No I said Obama. Okay so it is Obama. It's Obama it's Obama's. It's Obama's people. It's Obama's secretary of state. It's all, excuse me, his chief of staff. It's Al Gore's chief of staff.
Starting point is 01:11:49 It's all these people. They are running the show. And this is what we're getting. So how do you feel better about that? Because it's not Joe Biden. Well, do you want Biden running the country or not? You can't say, oh, he's not fit to run the country, but I also want him to be leading the country.
Starting point is 01:12:03 Which one is it? I'm saying that I feel comfortable with Obama running the country if it is if he is calling up Obama being like Barack Little over my head right now. What's your advice? I'm fucking okay with that because I think Barack Obama at least can control Things that Biden can't so you can't have your cake. You need it too. Do you want Biden running the country or not? Well, I don't think he is to? Well, I don't think he is. To be fair, I don't think he is at all. I think what he's trying to say is no and no is what he's trying to say.
Starting point is 01:12:29 Well, let's transition into a different topic and let's talk about tanks. So the China deployed tanks against protesters. What we do know and what we don't. This is a newsweek store if you wanna pull the viral video of tanks, processions on Chinese streets have caused a global stir last week with claims across social media alleging that China's military was drafted into
Starting point is 01:12:50 protected banks, following a major financial scandal, post on Twitter, which have received hundreds of thousands of engagements alleged that the vehicles were deployed to prevent a run on the banks after millions of dollars of worth of deposits were frozen from account holders earlier this year resow the location mentioned in the videos itself has not been at the center of the banking protest either the city is more than a half 500 kilometers from Henan when where demonstrators have been widely reported the general public featured in the video certainly does not appear to be energized for protest most passers buy our glancing idly
Starting point is 01:13:27 at the military vehicle. So, okay, so let's say that's what it is, news week. Let's say that's what it is. I mean, is this a show? Is this like a fourth of July show celebration? Let me go see some tanks. I mean, how often do tanks just come out? Why did the tanks come out?
Starting point is 01:13:43 Are they going shopping? Are they going to in and out to order double cheeseburg? I don't know, do tanks just come out? Why did the tanks come out? Are they going shopping? Are they going to in and out to order double cheeseburg? I don't know, what are these guys doing? Are they just kind of playing video games? And hey, let's go show off. And let's get some girls and stuff. Well, why are tanks part and outside of a band? I'm not speculating.
Starting point is 01:13:59 I think that's a safe question to ask. I'll just, I think it's intimidation. I don't think the Chinese play around with their tanks. You used to see in those when they're out in Tiananmen Square doing some damage. Yeah, I don't think anything's accidental there. Even though I feel so bad for these Chinese citizens, man. Yeah. The ones, well, first of all, they lock them down if someone has a, you know, sniffle, right? They're knocked down a whole city. And then with these funds, now this happened, you know, a long way away from where that was. But, man, you know, you think about China,
Starting point is 01:14:25 you think how they are under the thumb Chinese citizens and you wonder, man, could they ever rise up? Guns are basically illegal in China. I don't think Chinese citizens could ever do anything even if they wanted to. This is intimidating seeing this. I think that's just like a general military tactic right there. It's just show force. It's letting you know what we can do. It's the same thing when you're on target and people are getting squirreling. You fly a F-16 right over their heads and you're like, just see, you know, we're here. You know, we're here. We're here.
Starting point is 01:14:49 Yeah. By the way, that we're saying billionaires were trying to take out 58 billion dollars out of China. And China's like, now you made your money here. You ain't taking it out of here. There's a lot of people that want to leave China, but they can't be taking their money out with China. So, and do you have the story about what happened
Starting point is 01:15:07 with mortgages in China and the banking system? Did you see that story or no? Is this the one? No, this is around high net worth individuals. There you go, around 10,000 high net worth individuals in China are seeking to leave their country this year and could be, okay, it's $48 billion in wealth with them according to a new wealth migration report by Helian partners and investment
Starting point is 01:15:27 migration consultancy interesting Hong Kong members rank high yeah there was a story about what's going on with mortgages in China they're in there in some interesting situation right now by the way I think they just bought like 300 acres in South Dakota and the Santthus is not having it. The Santhus is like sitting, saying, hey, what are you doing buying all the foreign land of the American? He's called the huge problem.
Starting point is 01:15:51 Let me tell you, that concerns me way more than what's happening with this China banking situation. We covered the story a couple of years ago with this ever grand. I never even heard of them prior to this, but they've over leveraged and they've built up crazy amounts of construction and a lot of Chinese citizens have bought
Starting point is 01:16:06 Pre-construction and you know crazy debt and there's all this stuff going on in China. I don't really give two shits about Chinese real estate I care about American real estate, okay? I care about if China is buying up US farmland and the Sanctus is calling out now you're talking to me Okay, because I doubt many Americans are waking up Most Americans are waking up trying to pay their own fucking rent and their own mortgage. I gotta be worried about what's going on in China now. Let me tell you why.
Starting point is 01:16:29 Don't get too sh- I get it from the macro economy. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, for example, takes money from Confucius Institute so they can teach Chinese doctrine indoctrination to students and take their money Harvard's on this. Like that to me is way more of an issue when China is taking their money and their soft power and bringing it to the United States. Whatever happens to China, I get it. There's a real estate situation going on. Figure it out. The only reason you do see what's going on with China is the same way when you're buying a house, you do comps to see how much houses around your community are selling for. And if you're a rifle, a coffee company, and you want to know what your company is worth,
Starting point is 01:17:17 and you go to someone that's doing valuation, they're going to do comps to see what other coffee companies your size are selling for with the EBITDA, revenue, market, states, countries where you're at, is the same way we have to see what's going on in China's real estate market in loans because that's a case study to see what could potentially happen to the American economy. That's the only reason we would look at what's going on over there because it's a scary side. They're having a rough situation over there.
Starting point is 01:17:42 China's home buyers are running out of patience with the real estate slump last week as spike in reported numbers of home buyers, halting mortgage payments prompted many banks to announce their low exposure to such loans across, banks covered by Goldman Sachs, average exposure to property, including mortgages was just 17% if more home buyers refuse to pay their mortgages, the poor sentiment would reduce demand
Starting point is 01:18:03 and theoretically prices in a vicious cycle. So these are the reasons why you do pay attention to some of this stuff. But go back to your point. You're right. Why are these guys buying up all this land? Okay. By the way, one of the places they bought, they bought 300 acres of land in North Dakota 20 minutes from a military base.
Starting point is 01:18:23 What are you doing? Like, you have to ask a motive. Yeah. Yeah, why? Yeah, why you buying a Neuromilitary base? 20 minutes away. Bill Gates buy about Crapton Atlantic. Well, he's the biggest landowner for foreign land
Starting point is 01:18:34 in the world. By the way, I'm way more okay with Bill Gates owning land in the United States than China, the CCP. I mean, what are we talking about here? When you compare this to the article that just came out about their interfering with nuclear weapons and how they were installing listening devices,
Starting point is 01:18:47 the question isn't why are they doing it. The question is why are we allowing it to happen? Why is the government not stepping in and saying, no, not a fucking chance we're gonna live? Like this is absurd. 20 miles from an airbase. Of course they're gonna install listening devices. The question isn't why it's why is it happening?
Starting point is 01:19:02 Or excuse me, why are we letting it happen? I guess the question would be, what is the law against the country buying land in another country? What is the law? DeSantis says he wants to make it a state law in Florida. So so meaning if there isn't a law of doing that well then you need to create a law years ago when Trump was uncomfortable with Huawei's daughter that was going around talking to Iran and she was in Canada I don't know if you remember if you remember remember that whole scandal and Huawei was a number two or number three phone company in the world. What did he say? He said you can't do Huawei in US and why we took a massive hit why we was coming up in America
Starting point is 01:19:39 Why we took a massive hit if if this is what is going on? I always took a massive hit. If this is what is going on, the president has the ability to sanction anyone from China buying agricultural or land in the US. They could do that. They can add those sanctions on Chinese investors. That is simply one announcement for him to make. Well, you hit the nail on the head.
Starting point is 01:19:57 Chinese investors, they're not coming out and saying, hi, I'm here on behalf of the CCP and I'd like to buy some farm land. It's some guy named whatever. Or TikTok. Or. Yeah. That's some guy named whatever or tick tock or. Yeah. That's a whole nother situation was like that. But it could be just a Chinese investor. There's nothing illegal about in guy who's showing up and buying some property.
Starting point is 01:20:15 But you know that if a guy shows up with a couple billion bucks from China, it's like, who's really pulling the strings there? Right. That's the only question. There's nothing illegal about a guy buying property or corporation buying property. It's just how far removed are it from the CCP? Well, my assumption is not far. China has no problem, you know,
Starting point is 01:20:34 it's saying every day who their enemy is, it's us, right? For some reason, we just can't say that in an admitted. So I think we just, we should assume anything they do is to harm us. If they're coming here to buy five acres of farm land, you know, hang out, plant 5G, whatever, they're out to get us. We've been talking about China for a few years now, at least on the podcast right now. Do you think we haven't realized what China is about to do?
Starting point is 01:20:57 Like is there still people in the government? Is the citizens of the United States still unaware of what China is doing? I feel like it's out there, right? It's probably, it's out there, but a lot of people are like, oh, get over it, kind of just turn over. Get over what? You know, it's just turned a blind eye, I think, because it's easier to not care than it is to care.
Starting point is 01:21:17 And you think the fact that we're now, the Russia, you know, typically our largest adversary is now in the war in Ukraine, that's kind of taking the attention away from what China is really doing. Most likely, yeah. And then China, the Chinese presence in Afghanistan after absolute failure of pulling out. I mean, there's, they're making smarter plays, you know, and then you have to look at the Taiwan situation. And, just, why, what's the Chinese presence in Afghanistan now?
Starting point is 01:21:42 There, I mean, there you have a large C.I. threat. They're like counterintelligence. So I mean, I'm sure that they're directly working with the Al-Qaeda. I mean, that they're going to own Afghanistan, I'd say eventually, because they're going to do it more diplomatically, rather than militarily. Like, the Russians tried and we tried and we failed at. So. They'll pump money into it.
Starting point is 01:22:00 That's how they do it. Yeah, but you've served in Afghanistan. At any point, did you be like, why the hell are we here? We, didn't we learn from history that Russia couldn't, you know, take over Afghanistan? We've been here for 20 freaking years. Taliban isn't going anywhere. There's any part of you that's like, yeah, why the fuck are we even here?
Starting point is 01:22:15 Is there any part of you that's happy you got the hell out of there? Or we got the hell out of there? Even though it was a disaster on the way we left, at least we got out. Yeah, I think like it's just like a relationship. You have to be all in or all out. And yeah, leaving Afghanistan would have been fine
Starting point is 01:22:29 if we would have had a phased in plan and stuck to it and we did have that, but then they just pulled out and that's a whole different conversation. But no, I think that the reasons there early in Afghanistan, we were hyper successful in our mission and then we kind of got lazy and complacent and we sat around and tried to build bases. And then it just became an occupation. And we kind of suck at occupations because it's just that you're slowly bleeding the US
Starting point is 01:22:52 economy and having an American's die for, for really no, no specific reason and campaign to, to, to win. Like we fight to win. We don't fight to stay. So yeah. Thank God we have Elon Musk's sex life. You know, he did his off these crazy topics. Do you think he did it? Dangerous. Kind of. You know, the other day I saw a, I don't watch golf, but I saw an interview that was very,
Starting point is 01:23:19 I'm trying to find this to show to you to answer your question, where the reporter asks this golfer, he says, hey, the journey you have been told Saudi Arabia is on, all this other stuff that's going on, how do you feel about the women oppressed, the migrant groups having the rights violated, the LGBTQ individuals criminalized, the families of the 81 men executed and marched, he's just going, okay, with all this stuff that he's talking about. And the guy responds back, and I think it's Graham McDowell. I wish I could find exactly what he says
Starting point is 01:23:54 to share it with you. I loved his response. He says, you know, it's all interesting when it comes onto politics. He says, listen, we're golfers. We're not politicians. But he says, I'm so curious. Why do you guys target Saudi Arabia, but none of you guys are saying anything about what's
Starting point is 01:24:09 going on in Taiwan and what China is doing in Taiwan. Why don't you? You see the report is like poem, silent. So, so if you're gonna come after me for Saudi, why don't you go after what's going on with you know, Taiwan? Same thing in the NBA, right? You get those guys. They't ever talk about it. They'll talk about other social issues.
Starting point is 01:24:28 But they take $500 million per year from China, right? So it's a double standard all the way. So you're bringing up the China deal. And you can always tell who is uncomfortable to call out China. You better believe there's some kind of a business stealing going on over there. And you know, strategically, you got to give credit to these guys because they're going and buying up people left and right in America that are for sale strategically. This doesn't mean you have to like it.
Starting point is 01:24:57 This doesn't mean it's the right thing to do. Your people are for sale. We're buying them. Good luck trying to buy our people. Okay. Good luck buying our people in China Come on try buying our people see what happens, but your people are for sale. I'll never forget when China tried to buy you. You remember that? I do. As funny as it sounds. I'm not even bullshitting right now. They all remember what we were at when the email came in. We were in Dallas, Texas and at a set office. At least I remember, call that. So creatures. They're gonna creep you a zoom we ever did. They offered you, I remember, call that. So creepy is, there's the creepy as Zoom we ever did. They offered you, I think, a quarter million dollars to speak.
Starting point is 01:25:28 I have the email till today. And then another quarter million dollars that you're gonna donate. Something, I don't know, do you wanna tell the story? Yeah, he says, look, we wanna fly you out to China because this charity, we're willing to give you $600,000 of which we want you to present a $300,000 check out of your bank account to us,
Starting point is 01:25:44 but you're gonna net $300,000 check out of your bank account to us, but you're going to net $300,000. We're going to treat you royally. And Emo came out, Maru and I in a couple of our guys got on the Zoom with them. It was a PR firm out of New York with folks in China to give $600,000. And I'm like, I just wanted to hear them out to see like are people actually saying yes to this and And then what is your outcome? Is it later on in case because we're loud against you for you to come back and say well He came to China give us $300,000 to charity so he was a supporter and sure all this other stuff
Starting point is 01:26:19 So you know, it's but you gotta realize so if somebody to somebody of 600,000 dollars a lot of money to somebody I'm like, oh, you know, I'm gonna go out there and take a look at this. But man, a lot of Americans are being sold to China. A lot of Americans are being sold to China. They come back with a counter offer every time you told them, no. No, it was a very awkward zoom and the man was very, there was nothing pleasant. The two publics were very pleasant.
Starting point is 01:26:42 There was nothing pleasant about the guy. It was very uncomfortable. Who was nothing pleasant about the guy. It was very uncomfortable. Who was the guy? Do you recall? We have the name of the email, but the guy was very disturbing. And you can understand the question. Think about that PR agency. You answered your own question.
Starting point is 01:26:56 Do people really take the money? That's what they're doing. An American PR agency representing China interests, trying to suck in influencers and wealthy people here in the US and they can put them in their back pocket for when they're needed. Listen, I mean we criticize prostitutes in America a lot and they chose to live a life for changing whatever they're doing, you know, sex for money, but there's the real prostitutes are in Hollywood and sports that are taking bigger checks
Starting point is 01:27:25 And they're selling their souls and their country to any country that's willing to pay the money So you know, we have to kind of if you're really gonna talk about prostitutes You got to really go to the point where these guys are getting paid some real money to sell their country So the country other people that yeah that to me That's that's I mean mean that's just you know Do you ever see a time where there are people like that can be potentially tried for treasonous activity? I don't think that'll happen because there's ways to Cover through it but but just think just think about it from this standpoint
Starting point is 01:27:59 To be bought for the rest of your life. Mm-hmm. dollar amount is. You bet. Like look what happened with the devil. Look what happened with what's his name, who just stepped down from who's the guy that just stepped down the big wrestling CEO. Oh, they forced this guy to step down. Okay. What did he do behind closed doors? He bought most of the number. It's like 14.28 million. I don't know what the numbers. It's something. How many people he bought out and how many people he did that? Okay, so what's the solution? You know, what's the alternative? Do you know what the real alternative is?
Starting point is 01:28:33 Hey, if you don't come in, I'm gonna tell the world about it. Here's the reality. If anybody ever threatens you that they're gonna tell you about you hooked up with them, you should tell them, look, you're eventually gonna tell them. So if you're gonna ruin my marriage now, or three years from now, just go ruin it. I'm not giving you shit.
Starting point is 01:28:48 Yeah, because you're going to tell the world. So you know what, matter of fact, let's do three-way with my wife. Go ahead. Tepe, I just want to tell you I screwed up. Here's a lady. I was looking at three-way. Totally different.
Starting point is 01:28:58 And by the way, I'm telling you this, I'm telling you you're a freer man to take that approach than to take this approach Every single month you have to be waiting for somebody so I'm gonna bring this out and take it public and tell you tell this Tell it. It seems like kind of a weak way for Vince to go down doesn't it a little bit I mean the guy was such a hard charger. He's the face of wrestling No one's been more important in the sport than him. Yeah, what's the story? He was having the board is basically forced in him. Because he was paying women under the table
Starting point is 01:29:29 because he was having sex with them. So that's what the relationships covering things up. So was he paying out of his own money or the company's money? No, I think he was paying his own money. So what's the problem here exactly? What time to go? Extra marital affairs.
Starting point is 01:29:41 It's a bad look. It's bad PR. I mean, his wife, you know, ran for Senate in Connecticut. I mean, she had a high profile herself. She had a big role in WWE too. So maybe they all just collectively felt it's time to move on. Let's step in and trouble. And by the way, I respect that.
Starting point is 01:29:55 And that's their business. If they're having the conversations right now and the wife is saying, that how does it matter with you? You know, I understand all this other stuff. What are you doing? And they're going to have their whatever and they're going to say, you know what, this is what we're going to, we amounted with you. You know, I understand all this other stuff. What are you doing? And they're going to have their whatever, and they're going to say, you know what? This is what we're not.
Starting point is 01:30:08 We're out of the getting the divorce, or you got to step away. Yeah. Because this is embarrassing the entire family. Great. Make the decisions. But you think it was a family decision, a wipe decision. I don't know what the job you do.
Starting point is 01:30:16 I don't know what the order of the director is. What decision it is. All I'm saying is, if somebody comes and does this to you, they own you for the rest of your life. That's not the way to go out if you're that guy. I don't know why. No, you need a big tribute. By the way, can I tell you, and this is the truth.
Starting point is 01:30:30 Now, this isn't quite as big as your offer from China, Pat. I got an email yesterday within offer. Literally, this guy emails me and says, hey, I saw your hosting reel on YouTube. Would you be interested in some non-sexual naked hosting? So I've first of all, that's a compliment. You should be like, babe, working out of some, yeah. People still want me naked. You know, maybe I will have to reconsider.
Starting point is 01:30:55 And when do you start, when do you start in your appulations for having a husband where they want to pay him to be naked? What a bold look. What's the comment there? I'll follow up with it today. I'll show you. I bet you will, sir, for the right price.
Starting point is 01:31:06 Well, now that you guys have told me, maybe I will, but you don't want, no, I don't think I'm that guy, the naked part. No, thank you. You are that kind of way. You want to, you want to, have I told you to porn story about what happened when I was working at Chatsworth?
Starting point is 01:31:16 Have I told this girl? Go for it. Okay, crazy story. So I'm working at Chatsworth. This guy comes up to me with another girl. Chatsworth was at the time, 80% of porn in America was being produced in chat's worth. So that's where I lived. I wouldn't tell they banned condoms or made condoms mandatory. We're a little factoid. Yeah, by the way, all of a sudden disappeared.
Starting point is 01:31:35 Yeah, that's why. And I used to recruit a lot of these guys and you would go and get all of a sudden sit down with a bunch of porn stars. And you know, recruit for insurance. Let's be clear. Not in that business. But I'm at chat's worth a bunch of porn stars. I mean, recruit for insurance. Let's be clear. Not in that business. I was not in that business, but I'm at Chatsworth and this couple comes out. And by the way, you can obviously tell they're in the business. Very obvious. And they look at me and they say, so how much money do you make here?
Starting point is 01:31:54 I'm the top sales guy. I'm the T.O. guy. They come to me to close. I make very good money. It says, oh yeah, what is that? I say, I make $3,500 a month. It's like, oh, this is a valley. And I'm like, you show me a check of $3,500 a month. Like, ooh. This is a valley. And I'm like, you show me a jacket,
Starting point is 01:32:05 $3,500, I got my fucking job today. And he says, how would you like to make that a weekend? I'm like, damn, that's something. Well, good money, $3,500 a weekend. How old are you, by the way? Did I'm 20? I just got out the arm. I'm like, my testosterone levels are like 1,400.
Starting point is 01:32:20 I'm ready to break my D.O. Did I'm like, you know, and he says, hey, you know, for, you know, a few come, you know, here's all you need to do. Are you comfortable in front of camera? I'm not shy at all. I mean, I can be in front. So I'm thinking it's like, hey, maybe these guys
Starting point is 01:32:33 are in Hollywood and they're seeing, you know, we need a Middle Eastern guy to play some kind of a role. And I say, yeah, are you comfortable being naked? I said, we just took a different turn here. It's a lot of fun. Let me tell you, you know, pouring in the street chat's word, you're going to make $3,500 a week and you'll have the time of your life, the parties we put together, they're insane, all this stuff. And I'm sitting I'm looking at this guy. And for like five seconds, I'm just looking at
Starting point is 01:32:56 him. I'm like, let's play this alone. So, okay, you go this route. What's life look like 20 years from now? And I came back, I'm like, yeah, no, but I went home and I pulled the biggest prank on my dad. I got my dad knows this, my dad knows this till today. I said, I'm gonna pull it on him and I'm gonna do, I'm gonna keep it for a week. I said, Dad, I got, I got, I got to talk to you. This is what's that, I said, Dad, we're gonna make some money.
Starting point is 01:33:19 We're gonna make some money. So what do you mean? I said, honestly, you ain't never gonna work at this $0.99 store in Englewood ever again. He was a cashier. I said, what are we doing? I said, Dad, I think Hollywood finally found me. And he said, really?
Starting point is 01:33:32 I said, yep. I said, except it's a different kind of Hollywood. What do you mean? I said, I have to be naked. It's gonna be porn. He says, you're gonna do porn? I said, yeah. He says, if you ever do porn, you will never,
Starting point is 01:33:44 ever be my son. You cannot do porn. I said, Dad, he says if you ever do porn, you will never ever be my son. You cannot do porn. I said that Just think about all your friends watching porn saying that's Gabriel son Would that not be a proud moment for you? He was so furious. So what do I do? I leave him hanging. I leave the house nice You know for one week this guy thought I was gonna go into this thing I believe you at the time. Huh? Did you write a business plan at the time? No. Did you take your own advice? No way. That's a fork in the road, though, man.
Starting point is 01:34:06 If you go down that direction. No, but you're rounded. Every money chance for you in LA, you know you're around. Every, we would have the, we had the best club for porn stars because we had the only outdoor swimming pool. So these guys would only want, and in Balli's was chance worth. And they would say, hey, what time do you guys close it? I'm like at 12 o'clock, you might have
Starting point is 01:34:26 to stay two more hours. And I would ask you, just gonna be out there hanging out. If you want a party with us, I'm like, listen, I'll give you 30 minutes. It took, okay, sounds cool. And, you know, boom, people would show up and then they would leave, but Chatsworth was the mecca of porn at the time.
Starting point is 01:34:39 This is 99 peak. P-B-D. Well, Valley was always the cap. Is it no longer? It's no, I think, when I was living in North Hollywood They did a mandatory Condom thing for porn actresses and actors and that like killed all of it I forget I think it moved states or something
Starting point is 01:34:55 But I'm just glad at that age 22 no one offered me that Our country What would your name be though? You would have a military name, Rob. Would it be like, oh jeez. Sergeant slaughter right there. Yeah. Don't.
Starting point is 01:35:11 Sorry, get slaughtered. You would have been the Iranian sheep that came out of your ear and was getting live. But I do have a serious question for you. Number one, if you know anything about Gabriel but David, he would have disowned you. Straight up, you were dead to me. But you've said this multiple times
Starting point is 01:35:28 that you have the ability to look deep into the future. You talk about 20 years from now, 20 years from now, longevity, not having myopic thinking. You know, these days, that was pre-internet days, right? I mean, that was early 2000s. I mean, the internet wasn't what it is now, social media now. Now, I mean, I can't even tell you how many girls I run into that do only fans.
Starting point is 01:35:48 And like the internet lasts forever. I don't know how many guys are getting approached for only fans or porn these days other than Tom. I mean, I encourage you to look into that. That sounds like some good money. But the ability to think long term and not for the quick buck. How do you grapple with that?
Starting point is 01:36:04 What's your advice for young people out there these days? Because there's a lot of easy money out there, especially for women right now. It's not easy. I mean, I'm not gonna, there is no way of doing it. That's, look, here's the craziest thing about life. Here's the craziest thing about life. We're all being tested the entire time.
Starting point is 01:36:19 Let me tell you, man, this is a one big-ass experiment of what you're really all about. And you're gonna fall all about and you're going to fall many times and you're going to learn a lot about yourself. And your goal is to keep trying to make better choices. It's not easy. So I can't sit there and play, you know, hey, let me tell you, judge, you know, I'm not going to be doing that.
Starting point is 01:36:39 It's your choice. And everyone's in different types of situations. I just will tell you, you know, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's very, like, even right now, yesterday we're talking about politics. I said, do you realize the right candidate with the right policies that we need an America today would never get elected? Let me say that one more time. The right candidate with the right policies that America desperately needs today would never win an election today. Why? Because the right policies would be folks, guess what? If you vote for me, we're cutting back on 50% of entitlement programs. We're cutting back on unemployment checks. We're gonna go from six months to 90 days to 30 days. We're cutting back on all the spending
Starting point is 01:37:19 that we're doing. We're cutting back on a military spending that we're doing. We're gonna put it more in cyber and bio warfare and being prepared for that. Because right now wars are not going to be done up there. It's going to be more cyber. What Russia is doing. We're going to, you're going to have to get to work the next eight, 12 years, because we all have a job to do. No one would vote for you, even though those are the right policies.
Starting point is 01:37:40 Nobody would vote for you, right? Okay. So how many presidents become presidents and they make policies that benefit you 30 years from? Nobody, nobody does that. Everybody becomes a president, just like the difference between a founder and a CEO, a founder started that company, it's emotional.
Starting point is 01:37:55 A CEO is just trying to get the quarterly numbers to be hit, so it's a very different mindset. A lot of today's presidents are just trying to hit their quarterly numbers. That's all they're thinking about. So go back to your question on what you're saying, how you tie these two together. And life is a test of making short-term decisions
Starting point is 01:38:12 versus long-term. And it ain't easy, bro. When I think a lot of it, too, you have to be comfortable with your decisions. And if you're comfortable doing only fans or whatever pornography, I say, I do you. It's your body, your choice. That's the way I look at it.
Starting point is 01:38:22 But we come back to people when they they take control of your life And I look back at decisions that I made that didn't I didn't know what the third and fourth order effects were gonna be But I got proposed a lot of Decent deals back in the day when I started YouTube it was multi-channel networks It's when those are really popular they were taking essentially 12 digital creators putting them under one marketing umbrella Cross-pollinating audiences and getting brand deals and then pushing them through each different person. And I took a look at it and some of it was like hyper hyper, like I could have made a lot of money, advantageous for me.
Starting point is 01:38:53 And then some of the other stuff I started to see was all of a sudden the parent company kind of started to tell all these guys what they can and can't do. And I'm an irreverent guy that likes firearms and I knew that would always be an implication with working with these other people. And so I never did it. I said, screw it. You know what? My business partner at the time, Jared Taylor said, Hey, let's, let's start some shirts. And all we did was go, I'm going to put a design in the shirt that I want to wear every day and a really comfy t shirt that it feels good. And we went with what we wanted, how we wanted it to do it. And it took longer. But the consequence of those decisions were now, when I'm 35 years old, I own my ideas.
Starting point is 01:39:29 And the biggest, the worst decision I ever could have made in business was allowing someone else to own my intellectual property. Because I know that's what I am. I'm a visionary. I'm a really creative guy. I'm not the best in operations, but guess you can hire those people in and all that. So it kind of goes back to when you're talking about the one through 10 analogy is focusing on your core competencies.
Starting point is 01:39:48 I'm a creator, I'm a visionary, and I want to own that. And I never let anybody else own me. And that's, I think, what is a testament to my success. I kind of unknowingly did that, but then I started to realize it more and more as my life went on. Yeah. Power and respect to you guys, man. Much respect to you guys for what you did
Starting point is 01:40:05 and to be where you're at right now. You guys are just getting started. I mean, right now, 10,000 veterans, that means if you got 10,000 veterans working for you, you got 20,000 employees, you guys are on track to get there. It's a great success story in America and you guys are not slowing down. Do you know, to answer your question for you,
Starting point is 01:40:22 so for me, you know, I'm all about finding ways to drive you or me better, right? It's like, how do you have it? Because when you run a sales organization with 27,000 insurance agents, you have to learn, this person is going to be driven in a different way than this person, then this person, then me, then you. We're all different, right?
Starting point is 01:40:38 OK. Do you know what is the highest driver? You know what's the highest driver? The highest driver, my experience has been purely pride. Pride in what? Pride in your last name, okay, which has passed down from your parents. Pride in your nationality, your heritage, you have to have pride in that, that's your blood, you have me, whatever people say, you still have to have pride in that. Pride in your industry, what you do as a trade, you have to have a lot of pride in your trade, whatever, I don't care what you do. You gotta have pride in your trade
Starting point is 01:41:09 and constantly get better. Pride in your community, pride in your family, pride in your country. You can, everything is about representation. This, there's only one of this in the world, okay? And that's you. How you represent yourself to the world, eventually one day they're gonna sit there and say, I tell you man, I just this math guy man, who has a freaking badass. Yeah, look, you know, respect, salute. This Adam guy, the way he lived his life,
Starting point is 01:41:36 now you know, a lot of times at the beginning, but I gotta tell you man, this guy's salute. That is worth making the long-term decisions. Because all this short-term stuff that we do It's gonna come it's gonna go by but it's gonna stick around with you for very very long time Anybody can take the short-term victories. It ain't hard to do only a few to can take the long-term victories And I'm telling you right now history favors those who take the long-term victories But it's just gonna take 20 to 40 years for people to realize who the real players in the game were not two years Not five years now 10 years Adam 20 to 40 years. I saw you know
Starting point is 01:42:10 I got a weird call this week from one from Somebody in the industry Which industry not not not porn no that was retired We know it's not how I'm like you don't get what I thought and it was gone You're still thinking about it. They're contemplating. But this guy's with my offer. And this guy calls it. You know what he says?
Starting point is 01:42:28 He says, hey, you know, we're part of the same class. It's not, I remember. He says, so, you know, I've done very well himself. He says, well, you took it to all different level. I said, I think you killed it yourself as well. You know, I call them the 32-year-old Brady. So you got a 10-year run in you. And he says to me, he says, everything you said, everybody behind closed doors would say, yeah, he's not going to do it. Yeah, he's not going to do it. And for a long time,
Starting point is 01:42:55 we all believed it. He says, but it took 13 years for us to realize that everything you said he was going to do. You just, you got to be patient. You know, markets are going to say a lot of stuff. But if you're running for 10 to 20 years, you got nothing to worry about. You have a lot to lose sleep over if it's a three month run. You have a lot to lose sleep over. It's a six month run. But if you're running 10 to 20, you're gonna be fine.
Starting point is 01:43:16 You know, it's interesting about that because I've been asked a lot over the years about how to prep for a selection, right? And there's mental and physical, but the foundation of everything that I believe in when you're going through any selection, especially in the military, is a 70 day course will look at Ranger School.
Starting point is 01:43:32 70 days of being uncomfortable, hungry, tired, mad. Guess what, you get to wear a Ranger tab for the rest of your life's sick. And I never got why people, some people quit like halfway, three-fourths of the way through Ranger School. I never got why people, some people quit like halfway, three fours of the way through Ranger School. I'm sitting there going, man, you're three weeks away from your life's largest accomplishment, something that you can hang your hat on something, probably down the road when you have children, that when they, when dad shows their little son,
Starting point is 01:43:57 a Ranger tab, the inspiration that your child will go, man, my dad did something hard. And that's what people have to do in this life. And so often, especially with technology and social media, all of our behavioral patterns are becoming so impulsive, immediate gratification. And put the fucking phone down, go feel the grass, like actually dedicate your life with purpose to something, and follow through with it.
Starting point is 01:44:21 I mean, I do weird exercises every day. I tore my bicep about two years ago and it took a while to rehab almost a year and I said, well, I really took for granted using both arms as silly as that sounds. So I bought a drum set and every day, I pay 20, I play 20 minutes of drums. And at first, I could barely do anything.
Starting point is 01:44:39 Two years down the road, I feel like I could play a venue. And it's just weird tasks like that where I challenge myself mentally and I wish more people just wrote it on their little pad. It doesn't have to be crazy. Like Spanish is one of them, but I'm a little lazy on that one. I'm gonna get better.
Starting point is 01:44:51 No, it goes to show, think about it. You go through three quarters of Ranger School and people still drop out. That just goes to show how smart the people that set up the program are because it really does take that extra effort to make it all the way through or else everybody would be trying to do it. You know, when we were in DC, you know, I think one of the things that this country lacks right now more than anything, especially unfortunately young people is perspective, we went to
Starting point is 01:45:17 the Holocaust Museum. Have you guys been to it in DC? Yes. Unbelievable, right? I mean, how can you go to the Holocaust Museum and then have a complaint about anything in your life? You know, I was listening to when Jordan Peterson was on with you and he was talking about New York City and talking about what a minor miracle it is
Starting point is 01:45:34 that Manhattan can exist with 12, 15 million people, just the infrastructure. I was thinking the exact same thing as I was walking the streets of New York a couple of weeks ago. How does this city even happen? How does the garbage get picked up? How do the vendors supply all the food
Starting point is 01:45:48 in every single restaurant and these people never miss a beat? How do the waiters show up? How do the windows get clean? You know, it's just unbelievable. If we could all take a deep breath and not be offended by everything, you know, we'd understand that what an amazing existence life is
Starting point is 01:46:02 and how lucky we are, everybody wants this vending machine now. They think life is so simple, you know, boom, boom, boom and you get what you want. But man, after walking out, and Dash was the one that really wanted us to go to the Holocaust Museum and I'm so glad we were here. Yeah, it was at the end of our trip, too. You walk away from that. You just need a couple of minutes.
Starting point is 01:46:18 It's just unbelievable. And they laid it out so perfectly how they walk you through it and you get the evolution. And you see how Hitler, it all started with brainwashing people. It all started with a plan of four or five years. We're going to get you thinking a certain way. And then we slide in and do what our plan is and chilling. Perfect perspective is everything. And something I used to say quite often was, how do you have the unity and the patriotism
Starting point is 01:46:44 of September 12th without the tragedy of September 11th? Because you look at the effects of what this country did. It reinvigorated the American public to believe in itself, believe in the people, right? Screw the government. It's America's awesome because there's men and women willing to give everything to protect it in the name of freedom and liberty. It's amazing. But we lose sight on that, right? Because we're convinced that you should be offended at everything you do. It's just, I don't know the answer on how to,
Starting point is 01:47:13 because you have to go and seek perspective in these times. Because stuff is pretty easy. I mean, we have inflation, but generally speaking, America's a really rad place to live, like the best place to live. And I don't know how we convince people to have a better perspective to appreciate that
Starting point is 01:47:28 and move forward just to like, I have one suggestion for people. If you wanna have a better perspective in life, and if you wanna relieve from stress from your life, you gotta cut out mainstream media if you're ingesting it all day. You've got to stop doing that. It's very harmful.
Starting point is 01:47:42 I mean, even for someone like me me who's in the news, right? And I've been in the media business my whole life. When I'm bombarded with this stuff, you know, the alerts on your phone and whatnot. And then you go, like when Adam went to New York, when I went to New York and you see it's not that bad. Now unfortunately, you know, Cal, I wish we could have shown you some good parts
Starting point is 01:47:57 and you were in Orange County. Orange County feels different too, doesn't it? Not like a lot better. Not like a different mentality down there. Not in there. So Tom, tell us about your podcasts because we haven't, once the last time you were on a podcast with us, by the way.
Starting point is 01:48:09 I think it was the end of March or early, it's been a while. Yeah. So tell us about one degree of scandalous. Oh, thanks. Okay, so you know, I've had this in mind for a long time. So I have this one degree brand
Starting point is 01:48:20 where we just are, we have access to so many people in the entertainment world, the sports world to tell their story. So if you see the guy with his with the glasses, that's Cato Caelin. So everybody that remembers the OJ Simpson saga, Cato was living in the guest house, you know, he was the man in the middle of it. He was the star of the OJ trial. And Cato is a friend of mine, and I thought there's no one more associated with scandal than Cato Caelin. Right. So I wanted him as my co-host, and we've started this podcast, we're two months into it, and it's really fun.
Starting point is 01:48:47 So it's called One Degree of Scandalist, and we talk to the people that were directly in the most high profile, visible, coolest, craziest scandals I wear. I'll give you a couple examples. Remember when Arianna Grande went in and licked those donuts at that donut shop in Riverside, this was in July of 2015,
Starting point is 01:49:03 we have the donut shop owner, but when you hear the fact story, right? Or two weeks ago on our show, we had one of the guys that grew up with everybody with death row records, right? He is the most amazing story about how he basically saved two pox life before two pox was two pox. And now he's involved in championship rings. He just did the Rams ring. This past Sunday, we taped our new episode. It's going to be incredible. We have the pastor that just married Jen and Ben. So we were finding out Diddy Tip. What did they pay with? You know, was this a hostage situation? Did he bring her in? And we're all over the OJ. People Pat, I found, are so fascinated with the
Starting point is 01:49:37 OJ Simpson. So they just can't get enough of it. On our first show, Kato holds up the key that he actually still has the key to that house in rocking ham. So if you want a diversion from the craziness of the world, one degree of scandalous with Kato, Kaelin and Tom's energy, you can get it anywhere you get your podcast and on YouTube. Thanks for the plug. Can we put the link below? Can we put the link below? Got it. And chat and math. If folks, you're not hard to find. I mean, you're all over the place. So if guys want to find you YouTube for better for worse. I mean, yeah, I'm I'm everywhere
Starting point is 01:50:09 But no black rifle coffees are our coffee company and we have I think one of the greatest missions out there for the size of the company And yeah, if you want to watch a crazy contents YouTube, I mean New York Times best selling book whatever But whatever just we have a marine and air area. Eric, shout out to Eric. Eric's like, listen, man, I read his book. It's sick. It's awesome. Couldn't put it down. So you, you, you got fans everywhere.
Starting point is 01:50:32 Okay. What you're doing. So let's make sure we put the link to the YouTube channel, Black Rifle, as well as the book. Uh, gang, it was good to be back. I think we're doing podcasts again this Thursday. Thursday. Oh, we don't Thursday. Representative Joe Walsh.
Starting point is 01:50:45 Representative Joe, very stupid. You said it's very serious. Yeah. So we have to be interesting actually. Yeah, it's going to be interesting. I did. All right. Sounds good.
Starting point is 01:50:54 Gank, I hope you enjoyed it as much as we did if you did. Give us a thumbs up and subscribe to the channel. Take care everybody. Bye bye bye. Thank you.

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