PBD Podcast - Army Ranger & Entrepreneur Mat Best | PBD Podcast | Ep. 173
Episode Date: July 26, 2022In this episode, Patrick Bet-David is joined by Mat Best, Tom Zenner and Adam Sosnick. TOPICS 0:00 - Start  8:07 - The biggest challenge with transitioning from military to civilian life ... 15:46 - Black Rifle Coffee reacts to the Kyle Rittenhouse controversy  25:17 - The truth about the camaraderie in the military  38:22 - Why is the White House redefining the term 'recession'?  44:24 - Why do people want to stay in California?  57.01 - Is Joe Biden mentally fit to be president?  1:06:42 - Will the U.S. ever have a female president?  1:16:08 - Reaction to China buying farm land next to Top Secret Military bases  1:25:49 - Did China try and buy Patrick Bet-David?!  1:36:35 - How to take advantage of opportunities to earn money For Mat's book "Thank You for My Service": https://amzn.to/3b7gYuQ For Black Rifle Coffee: https://bit.ly/3cDTUEw Follow Mat Best: https://bit.ly/3zavYAk For Tom Zenner's podcast "One Degree of Scandalous": https://bit.ly/3Ouwqio Follow Tom Zenner: https://bit.ly/2FbacnW Text: PODCAST to 310.340.1132 to get added to the distribution list Patrick Bet-David is the founder and CEO of Valuetainment Media. He is the author of the #1 Wall Street Journal bestseller Your Next Five Moves (Simon & Schuster) and a father of 2 boys and 2 girls. He currently resides in Ft. Lauderdale, Florida.   To reach the Valuetainment team you can email: booking@valuetainment.com --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/pbdpodcast/support
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                                         When you got that David this sets the tone. I like it. Listen Tom. We miss you. I got to tell you man
                                         
                                         It's been a minute since obviously I saw you last week in LA. Yeah, but we miss you
                                         
                                         We are back. We haven't done a podcast for a week
                                         
                                         We're you know a bunch of things going on in LA, but today we have a special one for you folks. Let me tell you why
                                         
                                         If you've ever seen the movie deadpool, okay? I want you to think about it. If you've ever seen a movie deadpool
                                         
                                         Imagine the real life
                                         
                                         person of plane Deadpool, but this is a real life type of guy that you're talking about.
                                         
                                         Badass, military, ranger, I think five tours.
                                         
    
                                         A rapper, one of his songs was a billboard number 36, YouTube channel with a million and a half subscribers.
                                         
                                         Mixed viral videos, he came out of the closet one day telling
                                         
                                         those parents he's a conservative, just a lot of different things, very interesting, dynamic,
                                         
                                         funny, intense, badass veteran, special guest, Matt Best, co-founder of a black rifle coffee,
                                         
                                         it's good to have you on.
                                         
                                         Thank you so much for having me on, I feel amped up after that answer, thank you so much.
                                         
                                         Yes, we're excited about having you on, it's, you know, the whole thing with podcasting, man, when you do it and you're
                                         
                                         having fun, you want to do more of it.
                                         
    
                                         And then we, you know, interesting characters like you that come on and mix it
                                         
                                         even more exciting. But Tom, last week we were in LA.
                                         
                                         I got to tell you what happened in LA, which was kind of weird.
                                         
                                         You know how you went to New York and you said, wow, New York's much better and
                                         
                                         et cetera, et cetera. Right? That's what you were talking about month ago. And by the way, I talked to you, Tom, then I think you said, wow, New York's much better and et cetera, et cetera, right? That's what you were talking about month ago.
                                         
                                         And by the way, I talked to you, Tom, then I think you said you went to New York,
                                         
                                         and it was great.
                                         
                                         Oh my God, we went, we took the family.
                                         
    
                                         We went to DC first, and then we went to New York City.
                                         
                                         And the thing is, you're so programmed now to believe the media,
                                         
                                         or you're just susceptible to the crap that they feed on you,
                                         
                                         so you think it's chaos.
                                         
                                         It couldn't have been better.
                                         
                                         I thought New York was better than it was the last time
                                         
                                         was there pre-pandemic.
                                         
                                         DC was incredible.
                                         
    
                                         So don't believe the hype, man.
                                         
                                         These seats are open, but I make just to see what you have
                                         
                                         to say about the adjoys.
                                         
                                         Are you gonna announce that you're moving to Portland?
                                         
                                         I think the audience wants to go and do it now.
                                         
                                         One state at a time, I don't like it to floor.
                                         
                                         I got, well let me tell you the chas.
                                         
                                         Yeah, he would make a great leader, chas.
                                         
    
                                         Tom, what do you think about that?
                                         
                                         That's a good thing on your resume?
                                         
                                         I'm gonna consider it. We're not similar. I guess conversation last time we won L.A.
                                         
                                         The first time we were there 2020. Yeah, we went literally looking for the homeless
                                         
                                         We have to look hard was it that bad though when you and I were first time how about the last time you and I
                                         
                                         Not bad at all. Let me explain to what happened this time. Okay. Let me explain to what I was done
                                         
                                         So I lived in Grenada Hill
                                         
                                         So we went and we kind of went back on all the offices and buildings and everything that I was leasing and Let me explain to what happened this time. Okay, let me explain to what happened this time. So I lived in Grenada Hills,
                                         
    
                                         so we went and we kind of went back
                                         
                                         on all the offices and buildings
                                         
                                         and everything that I was leasing
                                         
                                         and Grenada Hills filled with homelessness everywhere.
                                         
                                         Couldn't believe it.
                                         
                                         Glendale, homelessness, lower.
                                         
                                         This time.
                                         
                                         This time.
                                         
    
                                         Glendale was like a three.
                                         
                                         Grenada Hills was a seven.
                                         
                                         You ready?
                                         
                                         Let me put it to this way.
                                         
                                         Beverly Hills was a 10. Get ready? Let me put it to this way. Beverly Hills was a 10.
                                         
                                         Get out of here.
                                         
                                         Beverly Hills.
                                         
                                         You know what?
                                         
    
                                         You know how you say this?
                                         
                                         It sounds like you're, you know how it's like
                                         
                                         you're over hyping it up.
                                         
                                         Come on, I can't believe you're saying this.
                                         
                                         So I go to a new restaurant in Beverly Hills called Catch.
                                         
                                         Okay.
                                         
                                         And it's a steak restaurant.
                                         
                                         Our friend Kevin took a step.
                                         
    
                                         Remember, I told you the story about Catch on a podcast?
                                         
                                         What's that? That remember remember my friend had his car
                                         
                                         Stead on fire in front of his business on lost the aniga is that cat
                                         
                                         It was right across the street from catching they couldn't open catch for the longest time because some homeless had pitched a tent
                                         
                                         And they couldn't get rid of them Tyler. I'm sending you this clip if you can show it
                                         
                                         If you can pull this up and show this
                                         
                                         So so this is this is Beverly Hills.
                                         
                                         Right across from SLS, what is SLS?
                                         
    
                                         So tell us supposed to be low end.
                                         
                                         Is it like a competitor on cell six or what?
                                         
                                         No, no, no, no.
                                         
                                         It's a competitor, Ritz Carlton.
                                         
                                         Yes, okay.
                                         
                                         Four and a half years.
                                         
                                         By the way, the homeless guy built a tree house
                                         
                                         across from SLS.
                                         
    
                                         I mean, that's pretty creative if you think about it.
                                         
                                         That's impressive. That's ingenious, right? He turned it into an Airbnb.
                                         
                                         Interprising, young man. Do you have the clip or no title?
                                         
                                         I just give you one second. Okay, so I'm pulling up on Beverly Hills.
                                         
                                         We're going, you're assuming like if there is a city that represents America that cannot be about.
                                         
                                         Think about people from, look at this right here. Press play.
                                         
                                         So that building that you're looking at across is SLS
                                         
                                         you see all of that sit upright there homeless there's even a tree house that's in front of SLS
                                         
    
                                         hotel in Beverly Hills I could not Beverly Hills if there was a city that I thought would not have
                                         
                                         any of it it's Beverly Hills but so I was going hoping I can come back with a story like you
                                         
                                         had about New York. I don't have that story about LA and it's going to be interesting
                                         
                                         to see what happens. So what changed because maybe we just went to different neighborhoods.
                                         
                                         We were in Venice. We were expecting to see all shit. And it was in Venice. Not at all.
                                         
                                         Oh, the last time you were there. Yeah, but why would you allow? Like listen, it, it
                                         
                                         weren't Florida. And it's not even like shitting on California.
                                         
                                         You can't allow Beverly Hills to look like that.
                                         
    
                                         But it is what they have.
                                         
                                         I'm born and raised in California.
                                         
                                         So I'm embarrassed that my state a little bit.
                                         
                                         So.
                                         
                                         So the crime in Beverly Hills is off the charts too.
                                         
                                         I mean, that people,
                                         
                                         anybody that goes to Beverly Hills for dinner now,
                                         
                                         they will not wear their nice jewelry
                                         
    
                                         because they could be followed home.
                                         
                                         It's a big deal.
                                         
                                         The stuff happens like all the time.
                                         
                                         Yeah, guys, everybody's DMing me saying,
                                         
                                         hey, take that jewelry off.
                                         
                                         Take that watch off.
                                         
                                         You don't want to be seen walking across
                                         
                                         and distrace with them.
                                         
    
                                         Like, what are you talking about?
                                         
                                         So you think propaganda, people are talking a lot about it.
                                         
                                         And then you're like, no, maybe it's really happened.
                                         
                                         Gas price, we're $6.69 by the way.
                                         
                                         So yeah, $6.69 is a legit.
                                         
                                         Oh, great.
                                         
                                         It went down.
                                         
                                         It went down. Yeah. So Matt, by the way, so yeah, it's 660 and it's legit. Oh, great. It went down. So it's down.
                                         
    
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         So Matt, where do you live?
                                         
                                         By the way, if we can't, if for the audience that doesn't,
                                         
                                         I'll, Matt, do you mind taking a minute and give them your background, you know, how
                                         
                                         you guys came about with black rifle coffee, Ranger, 40 audience that doesn't know.
                                         
                                         Sure, sure.
                                         
                                         The readers digest version is essentially a born and raised in San Barbara, California.
                                         
                                         I come from a very long lineage of military history, all my great uncles, serving world
                                         
    
                                         were two. My dad's a marine and and Vietnam, my two brothers serving the invasion
                                         
                                         of Iraq. Actually, it's in my book, but they were supposed to graduate September 11, 2001.
                                         
                                         So it was a kind of compelling story about how that kind of the day they were supposed
                                         
                                         to graduate, changed the course of their lives forever, and kind of probably my life as well,
                                         
                                         because I'll give it to the Marines. I look good in those dress blue uniforms, and when
                                         
                                         I saw them walking up there, I say, I want to serve my country.
                                         
                                         And so, joined the military at 17,
                                         
                                         went on to serve in second-range of battalion,
                                         
    
                                         did five tours with them, got out, hated my life
                                         
                                         as a civilian, actually moved to Los Angeles.
                                         
                                         And for me, it was just the politics
                                         
                                         and then the age group that I was in,
                                         
                                         you know, 22 years was just so different
                                         
                                         than where I had been conditioned to be in my life.
                                         
                                         So I went to rejoin the military, but actually got a job contracting in the intelligence community.
                                         
                                         So I did that for about five and a half years.
                                         
    
                                         That was the way that I helped fund a lot of my businesses early on,
                                         
                                         was essentially taking the capital from deploying segmenting times when I was home,
                                         
                                         and then just knocking stuff out day by day.
                                         
                                         So it was a lot of risk management because I was making a decent six-figure salary
                                         
                                         working for the organization I was working for.
                                         
                                         And I just applied that and worked my butt off
                                         
                                         put myself through college and the rest
                                         
                                         kind of been history.
                                         
    
                                         Matt, a question, you know, a lot of times you,
                                         
                                         you'll go, there's a friend in Dallas,
                                         
                                         Ballon is his last name, who they run this military thing
                                         
                                         with another guy that we went to there event.
                                         
                                         There was a bunch of guys, Rangers, Delta,
                                         
                                         Special Forces, you know, Paratrooper,
                                         
                                         all of them like the badass guys
                                         
                                         in a marketplace and a military.
                                         
    
                                         What do you think is the biggest transition
                                         
                                         from guys who made it here in a military
                                         
                                         to come in and to civilian and make it,
                                         
                                         because you know, it's kind of like,
                                         
                                         well, if you can make it in a military,
                                         
                                         you work so hard to camaraderie, team, leadership, you know, shouldn't you come out and to civilian and make it. Because, you know, it's kind of like, well, if you can make it in a military, you work so hard to camaraderie, team, leadership,
                                         
                                         yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
                                         
                                         Shouldn't you come out and kill it in the private free enterprise
                                         
    
                                         because it should be an easy transition.
                                         
                                         What is the biggest challenge to transition from
                                         
                                         your here protecting saving lives on the front line,
                                         
                                         you're getting shot up, seeing people,
                                         
                                         you're seeing some difficult things.
                                         
                                         I mean, chaos, non nonstop to transition into civilian.
                                         
                                         I think there's a lot of job skills.
                                         
                                         Obviously, like if you're a team leader in an infantry unit
                                         
    
                                         and you're making dynamic decisions while getting shot at,
                                         
                                         you already have such a leadership sensibility about you
                                         
                                         that absolutely applies the civilian sector.
                                         
                                         For me, it was the cultural change from the military, right?
                                         
                                         Because all of a sudden, I had to do with fucking feelings
                                         
                                         and that's the truth.
                                         
                                         Whereas when I'm overseas and you're working with a very
                                         
                                         professional team, you know, we have the most
                                         
    
                                         edgy jokes to each other, but we all know that
                                         
                                         we got each other's backs.
                                         
                                         And for me coming into the civilian sector,
                                         
                                         that was the hardest part because all of a sudden,
                                         
                                         I had to like, what were about a pronoun?
                                         
                                         Like, straight up. And for me me it really messed with my head.
                                         
                                         And it was the whole reason I went back overseas because I wanted to be around people like
                                         
                                         me that could make jokes, make a little reverent.
                                         
    
                                         And then that kind of metabolized into me saying, hey, I'm going to start my own businesses
                                         
                                         because I can choose culturally who's a part of that.
                                         
                                         And I want to work with fun, exciting, educated people that want a crush life.
                                         
                                         I don't want to work with people that want to be victims.
                                         
                                         And that's what I found a lot in the civilian sector.
                                         
                                         And I'm not paying that for everybody.
                                         
                                         I'm just simply saying corporate America has been conditioned
                                         
                                         like that, especially the last 10 years.
                                         
    
                                         It's gotten so much worse.
                                         
                                         So if we have the opportunity to create a culture
                                         
                                         and hire veterans that believe in the stuff we believe in
                                         
                                         and give them a safe space in a way of, in a reverent terms, kind of the opposite we believe in and give them, you know, a safe space in
                                         
                                         a way of, in a reverent term, it's kind of the opposite of a space space where people
                                         
                                         can wear their tattoos, say the F word, like, let's just get work done and treat people
                                         
                                         well.
                                         
                                         And do you ask that in the interview process, like, or do you, are you more, I'm actually
                                         
    
                                         really curious because you guys have built a very, very successful brand company.
                                         
                                         I mean, you guys are killing it.
                                         
                                         It's not a small thing that you guys are building.
                                         
                                         You guys are done a great job with the company.
                                         
                                         So is it you use a recruiting firm
                                         
                                         that specifically focuses on talent and culture
                                         
                                         and you tell them, these are the five things
                                         
                                         we're looking for if you come here
                                         
    
                                         or do you guys in the interview process
                                         
                                         specifically ask certain questions that filters out people
                                         
                                         that maybe won't fit your culture?
                                         
                                         What's that process?
                                         
                                         Yeah, I think it always starts with the top rights.
                                         
                                         You have a CHRO whoever your, you know, head of human resources is like that comes from
                                         
                                         the founders and the executive staff as far as, hey, these are the things and the attributes
                                         
                                         that we want in someone.
                                         
    
                                         And it's almost like back in the intelligence community, you rather have someone as a TSS
                                         
                                         I clearance and then train them how to do a profession because the clearance is the
                                         
                                         hardest part. The culture and business for me is the hardest part. Once you
                                         
                                         see someone and you know, okay, they might not have the exact skill set that we need quite yet,
                                         
                                         but we can put a professional development plan together. And then honestly, I like that because if,
                                         
                                         especially if they're a veteran, we're providing them a structure to succeed, learn a new skill,
                                         
                                         and they already have their leadership experience, they have the culture experience. Now, it's just a matter of like, how do I roast coffee?
                                         
                                         That's a pretty easy skill, and we're giving them a new skill.
                                         
    
                                         So it's all in, I think, the format of who you're looking for, and the culture aspect of the
                                         
                                         employee's side is a very large thing for me, at least.
                                         
                                         Got it.
                                         
                                         So it's upfront.
                                         
                                         So if I'm going through the interview process, I'm already gonna know what it's gonna entail
                                         
                                         to be part of Black Rifle Coffee.
                                         
                                         Yeah, and let's be honest,
                                         
                                         a lot of it maybe doesn't even need to come from us
                                         
    
                                         because if you look at the company and you go on
                                         
                                         and look at the videos and you watch coming
                                         
                                         as a conservative, you referenced that earlier,
                                         
                                         you have a pretty good indicator of what my values are
                                         
                                         and what the company's values are.
                                         
                                         So you either like it, you don't like it. So you either like it, you don't like it.
                                         
                                         You don't like it.
                                         
                                         And they don't come work for it.
                                         
    
                                         Have you ever had people that don't agree with your values
                                         
                                         that work with you guys and were successful?
                                         
                                         I'm sure, yeah.
                                         
                                         I mean, they probably were caught.
                                         
                                         Got about it a little bit.
                                         
                                         How big are you guys at this point?
                                         
                                         How big is the world worth of employees?
                                         
                                         A thousand employees.
                                         
    
                                         Got about 50% veteran high rating that too.
                                         
                                         No shit.
                                         
                                         50% props to you. Right around the first. Well, thank you for your service. No shit. 50%. Yeah. Props to you.
                                         
                                         Right around the first.
                                         
                                         Well, thank you for your service.
                                         
                                         And thank you for hiring vets the way you are.
                                         
                                         50%.
                                         
                                         Yeah, I mean, that's what we set out to do.
                                         
    
                                         And we're not done.
                                         
                                         I mean, this is just the start, to be honest with you.
                                         
                                         So what's the vision?
                                         
                                         What's the grand vision?
                                         
                                         What are we going to be doing?
                                         
                                         All of us going to be drinking coffee one day.
                                         
                                         Hopefully.
                                         
                                         I saw some other coffee back there in the green
                                         
    
                                         room.
                                         
                                         I had to change that out.
                                         
                                         This is weak, bro.
                                         
                                         This is not your coffee. That's not drinking it. I had to change that out. This is weak, bro. This is not your coffee.
                                         
                                         That's why I'm not drinking it.
                                         
                                         I was expecting maybe a gift or something, bro.
                                         
                                         I don't just put that out.
                                         
                                         Well, it's in the mail, I promise.
                                         
    
                                         No, I mean, we made a promise to our customer base.
                                         
                                         We're in higher 10,000 veterans years ago.
                                         
                                         And that has been at the forefront of our journey
                                         
                                         this entire time.
                                         
                                         And you start to see that a lot more
                                         
                                         with some of the brick and mortar locations opening
                                         
                                         and a lot of other strategic partnerships
                                         
                                         that we're doing like partnering with Dallas Cowboys,
                                         
    
                                         stuff like that.
                                         
                                         So it's always.
                                         
                                         Who loves you?
                                         
                                         Who hates you?
                                         
                                         Who loves black rifle coffee?
                                         
                                         Who hates black rifle coffee?
                                         
                                         I mean, a lot of people love us and a lot of people hate us.
                                         
                                         You know, we've been in a culture war a few times during it.
                                         
    
                                         So we're not shy to, yeah, a little hating the internet,
                                         
                                         but I'm okay with it.
                                         
                                         It is what it is.
                                         
                                         Speaking of haters, you guys, since whatever deal you put
                                         
                                         together with the Dallas Cowboys,
                                         
                                         made a lot of news.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         What was the drama with all that, especially with the recent
                                         
    
                                         string of mass shootings or school shootings that was kind
                                         
                                         of in the news?
                                         
                                         It's an emotional position from woke media in my opinion
                                         
                                         because when I look at this,
                                         
                                         and I look at it like battle space back in the military
                                         
                                         of like who's taking shots and why are they taking shots?
                                         
                                         Well, they're trying to rip away like people
                                         
                                         that just love America.
                                         
    
                                         And that's where I started,
                                         
                                         because it's America's team and America's coffee.
                                         
                                         So when a lot of people somehow based off of us having
                                         
                                         black rifle coffee in our company's name,
                                         
                                         try to use that and sensationalize that into saying
                                         
                                         that somehow it was distasteful because
                                         
                                         a national tragedy happened and then a football company
                                         
                                         and a coffee company are partnering.
                                         
    
                                         I don't understand.
                                         
                                         Was it the timing?
                                         
                                         Is that what it was?
                                         
                                         Yeah, but I mean, that was months and months ahead, right?
                                         
                                         Right.
                                         
                                         It is what it is.
                                         
                                         If people want to get offended at that,
                                         
                                         hey, it is.
                                         
    
                                         Yeah, hey, I think you need to be congratulated
                                         
                                         for doing a deal with Jerry Jones.
                                         
                                         That's the epitome.
                                         
                                         I mean, that is phenomenal.
                                         
                                         That's gonna pay a huge benefits.
                                         
                                         Let me ask you this, Matt, you're not that far removed
                                         
                                         from the military.
                                         
                                         What are people telling you as far as the walkification
                                         
    
                                         of the military?
                                         
                                         Is that real?
                                         
                                         Are they changing?
                                         
                                         Yeah, I mean, we've talked about this over the years.
                                         
                                         It seems from a lot of my friends,
                                         
                                         not every unit, but there are specific this over the years. It seems from a lot of my friends, not every unit,
                                         
                                         but there are specific units in the cultures
                                         
                                         that have been changing because when you have
                                         
    
                                         a lot more progressive leadership
                                         
                                         that comes into the White House and other portions
                                         
                                         of the country, their influence over generals and admirals
                                         
                                         and name the brass, that top down, right?
                                         
                                         Top down comes from culture.
                                         
                                         And yeah, I don't know this whole like mandatory
                                         
                                         vaccination thing and then the military. I mean, it seems as we are just trying to create
                                         
                                         a weak force, which is like the opposite of being a war fighter. Like, it's okay to have tattoos
                                         
    
                                         and you're going out on target with your friends to killer capture high value targets. Like, that's
                                         
                                         a real job and it's you need people that signed up for that exact, I'm trying to be very casual with my statements there. The whole purpose of being in the military
                                         
                                         is to fight wars and win them. But I think men's men are making a big comeback. I think
                                         
                                         they're coming back. And I think people are sitting around and saying, what the hell are
                                         
                                         you talking about? By the way, you know who's gonna help? Man's, man make a comeback, women.
                                         
                                         It's gonna be, we're a lot of,
                                         
                                         like you had a girl on on your podcast,
                                         
                                         who's like, listen, this is what I'm looking for for,
                                         
    
                                         man, I wanna be able to do this,
                                         
                                         I wanna man that does this,
                                         
                                         where they're looking for more alphas
                                         
                                         of men who are willing to step up and take the lead
                                         
                                         rather than being, you know, panzees,
                                         
                                         walking around thinking they have to please everybody.
                                         
                                         And I think it is making a comeback.
                                         
                                         So I don't think that's gonna slow down.
                                         
    
                                         By the way, just out of curiosity,
                                         
                                         what was the issue with written house,
                                         
                                         what happened with the shirt that was worn?
                                         
                                         If you can talk about that a little bit
                                         
                                         because there was a little bit of controversy with that.
                                         
                                         Yeah, I mean, we got kind of thrown in the center of that.
                                         
                                         I mean, the start of it was,
                                         
                                         and it's weird that I have to say this so much, but going into that, I always, when you watch that video for me,
                                         
    
                                         Coverton House, defended himself with a firearm legally, and I've been a huge second amendment
                                         
                                         proponent my entire life. I mean, I'm one of the, like, OG guys on YouTube that started
                                         
                                         making comedy videos. Well, when the shirt came out, it was a huge mix up with, like,
                                         
                                         kind of a sponsorship, essentially, and it was pretty much said that we'd sponsored him
                                         
                                         and we didn't sponsor him.
                                         
                                         And so when we put a statement out saying we didn't sponsor
                                         
                                         and people took that as we don't support him,
                                         
                                         drastically two different things.
                                         
    
                                         And also like we had kind of a weak response
                                         
                                         to be honest with you.
                                         
                                         We were caught off guard and we kind of fucked it up
                                         
                                         to be honest with you.
                                         
                                         Oh no, shit.
                                         
                                         Yeah, like, I think there wasn't clear and concise.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         Like, this is what we believe it was scattered information
                                         
    
                                         and then people ran with the false narrative.
                                         
                                         And, you know, when you look back,
                                         
                                         it's certain things like that.
                                         
                                         Like, I'm not a PR expert.
                                         
                                         Man, I was carrying a gun professionally like eight years ago.
                                         
                                         So, but it is what it is.
                                         
                                         And I think most people see now,
                                         
                                         especially even after the company went public,
                                         
    
                                         we have not veered from anything that we've ever done.
                                         
                                         Like at the time where most people might change their brand position, we're going hard in
                                         
                                         the paint with our support for Second Amendment.
                                         
                                         I mean, I just did a great podcast.
                                         
                                         I thought with the Firearms Policy Coalition, who I think is the leader in Second Amendment,
                                         
                                         the lawsuits and everything they do to protect the Second Amendment.
                                         
                                         So we're out there doing what we believe in, and I'm a constitutionalist.
                                         
                                         And most people know that, but question for you. Sure. In that moment because I remember one
                                         
    
                                         time, you know, media matters came after me and Daily Beast came after me. We were having
                                         
                                         an event I think with Kobe Bryant, the late Kobe Bryant and President Bush and Jordan Peterson,
                                         
                                         we put, you know, six that you were at this event, right? Six thousand people who put in the room
                                         
                                         and it's an incredible event, phenomenal event that we had.
                                         
                                         Next thing, you know, Patrick,
                                         
                                         but David, this is like, what the hell is going on?
                                         
                                         So we came back and we called them up,
                                         
                                         and we addressed them, we handled, we had a lengthy call.
                                         
    
                                         I was just coming back on a flight,
                                         
                                         an incentive trip we had with our guys.
                                         
                                         But we didn't have a publicist at the time.
                                         
                                         We didn't have a, you know, a big sunshine,
                                         
                                         sacks in New York, saying, here's how you handle it.
                                         
                                         First number, we say this, this is a script. When that happened to you guys, did you have sacks in New York's. And here's how you handle it. First number, you say this is a script.
                                         
                                         When that happened to you guys, did you have somebody
                                         
                                         that was kind of directing you guys?
                                         
    
                                         Were you took the council from them?
                                         
                                         Or was it more, here's how we're reacting to this crisis?
                                         
                                         For me, it was more, I was just so taken back
                                         
                                         that people on like our side would be like,
                                         
                                         that we went woke and we're not, we're anti-touet.
                                         
                                         I was, I was actually more confused than anything.
                                         
                                         And a part of that too is that I didn't really realize
                                         
                                         the importance of that situation
                                         
    
                                         for the Second Amendment,
                                         
                                         whereas if he would have been found guilty,
                                         
                                         what that would have done for case law.
                                         
                                         Didn't know that until probably a couple of months
                                         
                                         when I said on the lawyer and a friend,
                                         
                                         he was like, this is why this specific instance
                                         
                                         matters so much.
                                         
                                         So I went, oh, I got it.
                                         
    
                                         But then also, right, I look at the sense of, I'm a veteran owned and operated coffee company
                                         
                                         that puts veterans first.
                                         
                                         And I like am a huge gun guy personally.
                                         
                                         And so like, I didn't necessarily know why the company had to make a statement in that situation.
                                         
                                         It was, it was just very confusing at the time, I feel like.
                                         
                                         And so I think to your point, you make mistakes, you learn from them.
                                         
                                         And all you can do is be exactly who you are
                                         
                                         and stay authentic.
                                         
    
                                         And I think we've done exactly that.
                                         
                                         How, just, again, just to finish this up,
                                         
                                         I want to move on from this topic.
                                         
                                         But if, if you, like the next time around some like this happen,
                                         
                                         what's going to be the different approach?
                                         
                                         Is there like a new system, because we created a system
                                         
                                         for ourselves?
                                         
                                         Because if you don't know how to deal with the media, they're gonna bully you. And they're not
                                         
    
                                         gonna stop because they'll keep picking at you. What is the new approach that you guys are planning
                                         
                                         on taking if some like this happens? Well, in our initial statement, we said we believe in the
                                         
                                         judicial system pretty much. You just like verbatim that. I don't want to say verbatim because I don't
                                         
                                         want to speak out to her. But it was implied that we were fully supporting Kyle
                                         
                                         and we believe he was going to be found innocent.
                                         
                                         But there was still gray area in there.
                                         
                                         So probably forward, I'm going to be so clear and concise
                                         
                                         with my statements because obviously anybody can take,
                                         
    
                                         we see the news that has done it so many times
                                         
                                         to serve the years.
                                         
                                         They take an interview, they misplaced the statement
                                         
                                         and they make you look like an asshole.
                                         
                                         You know what it almost is?
                                         
                                         Here's the craziest thing.
                                         
                                         What it almost is, and you hear this over and over and over again,
                                         
                                         until it happens to you, man, you know,
                                         
    
                                         to apologize or not to apologize, right?
                                         
                                         To bow down or to say, listen, this is what we stand for.
                                         
                                         The guy has the freedom to wear that shirt. to bow down or to say, listen, this is what we stand for.
                                         
                                         The guy has the freedom to wear that shirt. This is what he supports.
                                         
                                         Did we ask him to wear that shirt?
                                         
                                         The guy chose to wear that shirt.
                                         
                                         How come you don't call people?
                                         
                                         The next time there's a shooting
                                         
    
                                         and the guys wear Nike,
                                         
                                         how come Nike doesn't get called out for that?
                                         
                                         How come, you know, Puma,
                                         
                                         how come whoever it is,
                                         
                                         I don't know who wears Puma,
                                         
                                         but how come these other guys don't get called out for that?
                                         
                                         And, but this specific area, it's because of, hey, this is what you stand for.
                                         
                                         Your conservative, boom, let's go after this.
                                         
    
                                         So, you know, it's almost, if you are specifically, if you're conservative, it backfires if you
                                         
                                         try to play the diplomatic game.
                                         
                                         They will keep bullying you over and over and over again.
                                         
                                         Yeah, plus there's no doubt where you guys stand and you're very articulate.
                                         
                                         So you don't really make mistakes
                                         
                                         if a microphone goes in front of you.
                                         
                                         So I think you have that as an advantage.
                                         
                                         I think people are getting tired of the apologies.
                                         
    
                                         I think a few people are gonna,
                                         
                                         we're just exhausted from it.
                                         
                                         Don't you think a few people are just going,
                                         
                                         like you watch some of these commentators right now
                                         
                                         that in comedians and you see what happened
                                         
                                         to Dave Chappelle and Minneapolis,
                                         
                                         I'm not sure if you guys talked about that,
                                         
                                         where show got canceled last week at first Avenue, but I think people are just exhausted
                                         
    
                                         of apologizing and hearing apologies all the time.
                                         
                                         Like, who has the time to be offended by everything?
                                         
                                         Like, if I said something that offended a lot of people, I honestly wouldn't care.
                                         
                                         I mean, like, why would I want to go out of my way to apologize to somebody in Topeka
                                         
                                         that I've never met before?
                                         
                                         When I laugh on that too,
                                         
                                         because, you know, I don't speak a lot about politics.
                                         
                                         I don't know as much as you guys do,
                                         
    
                                         but I have obviously my opinions,
                                         
                                         but I'm like not a political pundit, you know,
                                         
                                         I'm like a knuckle-dragger that carried a gun for 10 years
                                         
                                         and then does stupid comedy on YouTube
                                         
                                         and somehow started a business.
                                         
                                         So for people to over believe that I'm like,
                                         
                                         the smartest guy in the room is the wrong thing.
                                         
                                         I'm just putting one foot in front of the other
                                         
    
                                         and trying to do what I get to do.
                                         
                                         So, but you've created a thousand jobs.
                                         
                                         You've done that 500 vets that you've given them a job.
                                         
                                         So I remember when you go through the ETS process
                                         
                                         and you go through, not maps, what is the other one I remember when you go through the ETS process and you're going through, not
                                         
                                         maps, what is the other one that you kind of go through? It's like six weeks. And, uh,
                                         
                                         hey, you know, here's a job opportunity. You know, I was going to be a cop at Fort Lauderdale
                                         
                                         mall. They offered me 36 grand and I'm living in LA. I'm from LA. I'm from Grenade Hills.
                                         
    
                                         I'm like, am I going to go take this job at the Fort Lauderdale? We're building a new mall.
                                         
                                         Would you like to be a cop here? Literally, $36,000 out of your salary.
                                         
                                         And okay, you can go do this.
                                         
                                         You can go work with post office.
                                         
                                         If you take the test, you get an additional 10 points.
                                         
                                         You can be a firefighter, but there's a freezing L.A.
                                         
                                         That whole process when you're going out of it,
                                         
                                         it's like you're going from hardcore routine,
                                         
    
                                         hardcore formation, hardcore structure,
                                         
                                         tonight you're a civilian.
                                         
                                         And in the military, in the test transition,
                                         
                                         you know, I think you talk about transition
                                         
                                         or anything in life, anytime you're transition and that's not a, that's not easy, you know,
                                         
                                         when people go through a transition process. So for you to help, currently, I'm sure you
                                         
                                         got some higher, more than 500 vets, but currently to have 500 active vets that are working
                                         
                                         with you guys, you know, you're, you're helping in a way, the government, you're doing government's
                                         
    
                                         job without taxpayers needing to support those
                                         
                                         vets. You're giving them a job with they're able to have dignity and pride in the work
                                         
                                         that they're doing. And I think that needs to be celebrated. And they need to say thank
                                         
                                         you to you for what you guys have been doing rather than the other way around.
                                         
                                         Well, we're stoked because the DOD and a lot of leadership, specifically in some of these
                                         
                                         old soft units, are making really good decisions
                                         
                                         I think as far as when people are getting out so we've been working with the DOD like with skill bridge programs
                                         
                                         And it's something that I wish could have happened to me, but probably good it didn't is when about six months before someone's getting out of the military
                                         
    
                                         They'll actually pay their the DOD will pay their military salary
                                         
                                         They come and work for us for six months and intern within the company. And then from there, a lot of the time, more than not,
                                         
                                         we'll hire them on as a direct hire right there,
                                         
                                         because they got to learn.
                                         
                                         And if not, then they at least get to see and taste
                                         
                                         what it feels like to be in the civilian sector
                                         
                                         and more of like our realm.
                                         
                                         So if they go somewhere else.
                                         
    
                                         So it's helping with that transition stuff.
                                         
                                         And we've had quite a few of those coming through
                                         
                                         the doors lately, and it's a really rad program.
                                         
                                         And how long have they been doing that?
                                         
                                         That transition?
                                         
                                         Specifically, the O.D.
                                         
                                         Skillbridge stuff, I'm not sure how long that program existed with us.
                                         
                                         I think we got involved about two years ago.
                                         
    
                                         That's cool.
                                         
                                         That's great.
                                         
                                         Go ahead.
                                         
                                         Here's my question for you, bro.
                                         
                                         I mean, you're a patriot who served our country.
                                         
                                         And your book was, thank you for my service.
                                         
                                         So thank you for your service.
                                         
                                         You're a patriot who served our country. Now you're serving coffee to Americans. So respect.
                                         
    
                                         But my question, because I think only 7% of living Americans have served in the military,
                                         
                                         right? I didn't serve in the military. I've actually been around more military people since
                                         
                                         joining the entertainment, hanging with Pat and Saipala and Eric and Chris, like some of
                                         
                                         my very closest good friends. But a lot of Americans don't have experience with military.
                                         
                                         I think less than 1%, 0.1% are active in the military.
                                         
                                         So what I'm trying to understand is mostly for people watching this,
                                         
                                         I assume 90-something percent people have never served in the military,
                                         
                                         I want to understand the culture a little bit better,
                                         
    
                                         because if you're not around it, you don't get it
                                         
                                         You don't get why people in the military love two ways so much, right?
                                         
                                         What the brotherhood is what you've had always talked about the camaraderie
                                         
                                         So I mean you're hiring veterans. You're around these people. You're empowering these people
                                         
                                         What I understand is what is it like? Why does the military obviously
                                         
                                         Or is it proponents of the Second Amendment? Why what is it about the military that people just don't understand the brotherhood of the military?
                                         
                                         Well, a lot of, most people that were war fighters and infantry special operations tend
                                         
                                         to be proponents of the Second Amendment because when you're deployed, like, black rifle,
                                         
    
                                         coffee, black rifle, that's a life saving equipment, that's a life saving tool.
                                         
                                         Everywhere you go, I slept with that thing.
                                         
                                         I went to chow with it, you know?
                                         
                                         That is the difference between saving my own life
                                         
                                         and my teammates life and not being very proficient with it.
                                         
                                         And it's a tool.
                                         
                                         And a lot of this, like the civilian side,
                                         
                                         it's never touched a gun, right?
                                         
    
                                         You're scared of what you don't know,
                                         
                                         but that's what we did.
                                         
                                         We handed it every day.
                                         
                                         We know how to save handle it.
                                         
                                         And I mean, I carry a gun every single day in Texas
                                         
                                         because I mean, if something happens,
                                         
                                         and I'm not to get too far into it,
                                         
                                         but like when people, oh, more guns,
                                         
    
                                         we'll fix the gun problem.
                                         
                                         We just saw it happen in Indiana
                                         
                                         when an inactive shooter shot, I think two or three people
                                         
                                         and a concealed carry license holder shot,
                                         
                                         the guy saved countless lives.
                                         
                                         So for me, that's the whole reason.
                                         
                                         It's a tool and it's a tool of safety.
                                         
                                         And that comes from, I think, a lot of us just carrying those in our background. But, yeah,
                                         
    
                                         to the culture side of the military man, it was just, we lived in a tent together for months,
                                         
                                         upon months. And so you just kind of have this bond that never changes. I had the opportunity
                                         
                                         to see my two best friends I've known for 18 years. I went to basic training, airborne, rip,
                                         
                                         ranger school, war.
                                         
                                         So we got a drink whiskey until war stories
                                         
                                         that this begins.
                                         
                                         That's cool.
                                         
                                         I haven't talked to them in months
                                         
    
                                         and we just pick it up right where we left off
                                         
                                         and something like that.
                                         
                                         I'm very blessed to be part of.
                                         
                                         In your videos, because it's not all glory,
                                         
                                         it's not all glorified.
                                         
                                         I mean, in your videos, some of your best friends
                                         
                                         in your videos, half of them have friends in your videos half of them have
                                         
                                         Freakin no legs bro or missing an arm like I'm like holy shit this guy's doing comedy
                                         
    
                                         He's doing satire. He's being funny, but at the same time just looking at the images guys are missing limbs
                                         
                                         How do you grapple with the the humor of life? But also some of the
                                         
                                         the downs of being in the military I can't speak for you know all
                                         
                                         Amputee's anybody. I can't speak for, you know, all amputees or anybody,
                                         
                                         I'm not amputees, so I can't say anything.
                                         
                                         But I will say like most of my friends
                                         
                                         who are missing limbs, they want to be treated
                                         
                                         like they're human.
                                         
    
                                         And I think a lot of times with visible warrantries,
                                         
                                         people treat them differently,
                                         
                                         and they just want to be a part of the crew.
                                         
                                         And that's why you see a lot of the jokes that we make,
                                         
                                         where I think crispy omur,
                                         
                                         of you know, he rolls the lawn mower
                                         
                                         and pretends to chop his leg off and then you know stuff like that.
                                         
                                         So it's kind of humor through horror kind of I wear we just have to laugh about it because
                                         
    
                                         you can't change what happened you can only change what hopefully will happen.
                                         
                                         Do these guys have regrets missing limbs or do they wish they never went to the military?
                                         
                                         Do they double down and say no is the best decision of my life?
                                         
                                         I'm trying to understand the mindset,
                                         
                                         especially when you lose limbs for your country.
                                         
                                         I would say that we should be very thankful
                                         
                                         that such men and women exist that can lose limbs and say,
                                         
                                         I'm happy and I would do it over in a heartbeat.
                                         
    
                                         One of my mentors, Clint Trial, absolute bad-ass dude.
                                         
                                         Over 20 years in the military, last deployment got both his legs blown off
                                         
                                         and he works with us now,
                                         
                                         and he's been like a mentor,
                                         
                                         and I sit down and talk this guy.
                                         
                                         I just wanna go like, do push-ups, you know?
                                         
                                         Like swing a kettlebell,
                                         
                                         because his perspective on life
                                         
    
                                         through all the tragedy that he's had
                                         
                                         is just absolutely brilliant.
                                         
                                         And I wish more people would sit down
                                         
                                         over a cup of coffee and listen to a gentleman like.
                                         
                                         Pat, all the time talks about,
                                         
                                         like I feel like that's like your fondest memories of life
                                         
                                         is your time in the military and the camaraderie.
                                         
                                         And you've had friends come in here on the show
                                         
    
                                         and be a part of this.
                                         
                                         What's your take on that?
                                         
                                         I know, that's interesting.
                                         
                                         I mean, he's at a different level.
                                         
                                         You've got five, you know, you're talking about,
                                         
                                         he made it to the pinnacle of experience
                                         
                                         on what you do with the military.
                                         
                                         You know, to do what he did.
                                         
    
                                         But the main word you'll hear from almost everybody in the
                                         
                                         military is the seaworth, it's camaraderie.
                                         
                                         That camaraderie.
                                         
                                         And by the way, here's the part.
                                         
                                         If you have thin skin, you're not going to make in the
                                         
                                         military because the jokes, if 10% of the jokes were seen in
                                         
                                         the public, like, you know, you know, military, they can't do
                                         
                                         vlogs because the YouTube channel would in the public. Like, you know, you know, military, they can't do vlogs because the YouTube channel
                                         
    
                                         would be shut down.
                                         
                                         The Indians are like, they would offend everybody.
                                         
                                         The jokes are so direct and painful
                                         
                                         that you're either gonna be able to handle
                                         
                                         or you're gonna say, I gotta transfer to a different unit.
                                         
                                         So it toughened you up, you built a France relationships
                                         
                                         and you see anyone like the other day,
                                         
                                         one of my guys sent me a message,
                                         
    
                                         Klingerman. Klingerman, this guy was was funny he was a guy that played football in Ohio
                                         
                                         so we'd go to bars in Clarksville and we'd go drinking here's how he was he would
                                         
                                         drink one two three four five ten fifteen twenty I mean he's drinking right when
                                         
                                         he comes out if he didn't meet a girl guess what he's doing getting in a fist fight
                                         
                                         oh first of all that's not a matter.
                                         
                                         Because he was a linebacker.
                                         
                                         This guy almost made it to the next level.
                                         
                                         If he didn't meet a girl, no joke.
                                         
    
                                         His head is going into a car's window.
                                         
                                         She, I mean, we have to like, not tonight.
                                         
                                         Ah, bam, he would,
                                         
                                         To entertain you guys.
                                         
                                         Who's that part of it?
                                         
                                         I was just frustrated.
                                         
                                         It was almost like the movie,
                                         
                                         remember the program, remember the movie, the the program course without one guy would go in
                                         
    
                                         You know with his psychopath you paint his face of the blonde, but you know
                                         
                                         Crazy of a guy's he was everybody loved. Yeah, that's crazy
                                         
                                         These one you're all you tell these stories and people are like but Pat that's not normal
                                         
                                         Yeah, you listen you buy your normal. This is our normal. It is what it is
                                         
                                         Well, the reason that I'm so freaking fast handed by this because I played college football
                                         
                                         Tom's enter also played college football
                                         
                                         There's a level of camaraderie and manliness and like, you know like but I feel like in the military
                                         
                                         It's even more enhanced like the camaraderie football is cool. We get along
                                         
    
                                         We know we battle in you know punch each other in the face and all that but military. It's life for death
                                         
                                         If there's not it's not life for death for a football. It's not life or death for a football.
                                         
                                         It's a big problem for throwing a bomb.
                                         
                                         Sure, that's what I'm sure.
                                         
                                         It is very similar.
                                         
                                         I think I get along with a lot of pro athletes.
                                         
                                         I have a lot of UFC fighters that are my friends,
                                         
                                         just because the culture is the same.
                                         
    
                                         It's put in the hard work.
                                         
                                         I know, love your can and then have some fun.
                                         
                                         It's pretty simple.
                                         
                                         Remember, one you're doing for a team,
                                         
                                         one you're doing for a country.
                                         
                                         Right, no, I'm not.
                                         
                                         And one is life and death
                                         
                                         Yeah, yeah, so but but I mean I'm sure it's very close to
                                         
    
                                         To I'm saying it's probably not very close. That's the closest thing. I can't do
                                         
                                         Athletes and I see them see old friends that they play true like that one time you brought a friend
                                         
                                         We went to yard house who was the guy that was a basketball player
                                         
                                         Oh, it's a row and he was saying Charles
                                         
                                         What do you say that their waitress came up and said,
                                         
                                         Charles Barclay's the greatest player of all time?
                                         
                                         Yeah, I'm like, what are you talking about?
                                         
                                         Just this Michael George is not even in top 10.
                                         
    
                                         Do you remember that we found this thing?
                                         
                                         Yeah, exactly, that's very weird.
                                         
                                         That's what I remember about your friend.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         The waitress is what I remember.
                                         
                                         Yeah, but you remember him?
                                         
                                         He used to play basketball.
                                         
                                         That guy was all county, 10th, 11th grade, 12th grade.
                                         
    
                                         He was amazing.
                                         
                                         And just you guys exchanging stories
                                         
                                         that you've been obtained in for.
                                         
                                         Again, to Tom's point, that we were never life or dead
                                         
                                         But football of any sport I'd say that closest well, let me just let me do it. So so then then Matt
                                         
                                         Let me do it for him. I don't can't he wants to do it
                                         
                                         I'm gonna do it on behalf of Adam Adam's asking if you can make any contacts where the military can make an exception where a
                                         
                                         41-year-old man can join a military
                                         
    
                                         A couple weeks of basic training. I do want to go shooting though. I've never shot a gun. How about that? Is that crazy? What?
                                         
                                         Yeah, do you see his mind just shot a gun never shot a gun? Dude, I shot my first. I think a shot when I was four. Yeah,
                                         
                                         but this is what I'm saying. I've never shot a gun. Exactly.
                                         
                                         I live in Miami. I live in San- have you ever shot a gun?
                                         
                                         Yeah, it's a very minimal times. I've shot 50 something years old 10 years old I'm here for verbal warfare
                                         
                                         Yeah, I own a 20 millimeter. I own an anti-material
                                         
                                         But brother, this is the point of this is the point of my question is that like there's a lot of guys out there
                                         
                                         We played football. It's not like we're fucking pussy's like we we battled on the grid iron
                                         
    
                                         But very few Americans have served in the military and that's like I want to go shoot a gun just to fucking feel what it's like.
                                         
                                         You sleep when they're gone.
                                         
                                         Brains are gone.
                                         
                                         And you don't have to access any time you're all invited.
                                         
                                         Adam and I are bookending two guys that have more artillery than some countries, I think.
                                         
                                         Well, then why don't you do this?
                                         
                                         I think we got a couple guys right after we're done.
                                         
                                         I'm going to talk to the finish.
                                         
    
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         Let's just go get it done today.
                                         
                                         And pop your cherry today.
                                         
                                         But you know, there's a large percentage of Americans
                                         
                                         who when they see, like you did a video
                                         
                                         that the gun-free zone video.
                                         
                                         Yeah, hilarious, bro.
                                         
                                         Like robbers come in guns, you bust out your shirt
                                         
    
                                         and it says gun-free zone, and they're like,
                                         
                                         oh, okay, I guess we'll put down like,
                                         
                                         the way that you use satire to make fun of these situations.
                                         
                                         I think it's truly admirable,
                                         
                                         but a large swath of Americans really have never shot a gun.
                                         
                                         They don't get it, they don't get gun culture.
                                         
                                         I'm trying to let them understand
                                         
                                         and soak the knowledge out of you of why it's so important.
                                         
    
                                         Yeah, I mean, especially that one, I made fun of that
                                         
                                         because it's my way of combating
                                         
                                         some of these ridiculous narratives that I believe
                                         
                                         for gun control where, you know,
                                         
                                         you're putting a sign up that says,
                                         
                                         you're an easy target, sounds pretty stupid to me.
                                         
                                         Like, school's like your sign.
                                         
                                         Just like even in my house,
                                         
    
                                         if I was like, hey guys, no guns, no dogs either.
                                         
                                         Just come on in, and then like, here's my Instagram,
                                         
                                         so you can see when I'm out of town,
                                         
                                         are you that stupid and like benign in your brain
                                         
                                         that you can't understand that there's evil in the world
                                         
                                         and the only person that can protect you is yourself.
                                         
                                         Come on.
                                         
                                         But by the way, you know,
                                         
    
                                         whether you have guns or not not you probably would benefit from saying
                                         
                                         You have you put a sign outside your house that says this house. We have guns shotguns and you say a
                                         
                                         Freaking rotwiler or a hit pull
                                         
                                         Lives here attack whether lives here whether
                                         
                                         There's a
                                         
                                         Probably say horrible marketing now you may get some, some, what do you call it?
                                         
                                         Some socialist flyers of somebody that's running for office
                                         
                                         that are gonna put in front of your building or your house,
                                         
    
                                         but you're not gonna have to worry
                                         
                                         about somebody burying into your house.
                                         
                                         Interesting perspective.
                                         
                                         So okay, did you have any other meal with the questions?
                                         
                                         Or more can we transition?
                                         
                                         This is great.
                                         
                                         Did Jerry Jones have your back during that controversy?
                                         
                                         Did he call you and say, hey man, I got this covered?
                                         
    
                                         Cause I get heat alleviated some of that heat with his power.
                                         
                                         Yeah, Jerry's absolutely amazing.
                                         
                                         And I mean, from what I heard, he was stoked on the release.
                                         
                                         My business partner, Evan, has direct comms with him.
                                         
                                         So I'm not that important to talk to Jerry Jones.
                                         
                                         I don't think I don't rate that high, you know, prediction.
                                         
                                         Well, the Cowboys won a championship while Jerry Jones is alive.
                                         
                                         Still, I mean, I'm back there caffeinating them all black or for coffee while Jerry Jones is alive. Still, I mean, I'll be back there caffeinating him all black or photography.
                                         
    
                                         While Jerry Jones is alive, wow, you went there, huh?
                                         
                                         So you don't think they're gonna win one by one.
                                         
                                         I don't.
                                         
                                         I think he needs to step down, move away.
                                         
                                         I think he's overrated.
                                         
                                         I think he's overrated.
                                         
                                         I think he's overrated.
                                         
                                         I think he's overrated.
                                         
    
                                         I think he's overrated.
                                         
                                         I think he's overrated.
                                         
                                         I think he's overrated.
                                         
                                         I think he's overrated.
                                         
                                         I think he's overrated.
                                         
                                         I think he's overrated.
                                         
                                         I think he's overrated.
                                         
                                         I think he's overrated.
                                         
    
                                         I think he's overrated.
                                         
                                         I think he's overrated. I think he's overrated. I think he's overrated. I think he's over in. I just don't see them winning with him now. With him as what could I think it starts with a quarterback,
                                         
                                         but that's another conversation.
                                         
                                         They've got a top five quarterback.
                                         
                                         They got a lead to back to the back.
                                         
                                         No, no, no, no.
                                         
                                         Abert Dallas is one of the best.
                                         
                                         Okay.
                                         
    
                                         It's just they shit the bed in the playoffs.
                                         
                                         They have over one.
                                         
                                         They have it one for a long, long time.
                                         
                                         It's been 25, 26 years that they haven't won.
                                         
                                         It's been a minute since they won.
                                         
                                         We're going to win the season.
                                         
                                         How about that this season? Yeah, prediction time. Black rival golf. In the bank gamble here, I years that they haven't won. It's been a minute since they won. We're going to win the season. How about that this season?
                                         
                                         Yeah, prediction time. Black rival.
                                         
    
                                         And we'll hear a bet five bucks on it. Let's go. You got a bet.
                                         
                                         You shake out. We'll win this season. Let's shake out five.
                                         
                                         There we go, Mad Bucks. Adam and Mad have a bet.
                                         
                                         Five bucks.
                                         
                                         The playoffs. A first round playoff.
                                         
                                         He's saying super. Five bucks or one third of a can or take a guess or like
                                         
                                         I'll come collect and tube, bro.
                                         
                                         He is a collector.
                                         
    
                                         Okay.
                                         
                                         Okay.
                                         
                                         Sounds good.
                                         
                                         You guys mind if we get into some stories?
                                         
                                         No, I've learned a lot.
                                         
                                         Thank you.
                                         
                                         Let's get some stories here.
                                         
                                         So one of the ones I want to hit up is how the White House is handling inflation.
                                         
    
                                         If you guys are okay with that, let's go into that one.
                                         
                                         Page six.
                                         
                                         Okay.
                                         
                                         So here we go.
                                         
                                         The White House wants to redefine recession ahead
                                         
                                         of possibility of disastrous GDP report. Economic commentators frequently use two consecutive
                                         
                                         quarters of negative GDP growth as rule of thumb that an economy is in recession. While
                                         
                                         the economy shrank by 1.4% of first quarter, President Biden's economic team argued that even
                                         
    
                                         of second quarter GDP is, uh, negative, it's still unlikely that would indicate the
                                         
                                         economy isn't a recession. The National Bureau of Economic Research defines a
                                         
                                         recession as a significant decline in economic activity that is spread across
                                         
                                         the economy and lasts more than a few months and looks at everything from
                                         
                                         inflation-adjusted income, various employment statistics, consumption
                                         
                                         expenditures, and industrial production.
                                         
                                         Google, however, defines the phenomenon
                                         
                                         as a period temporary economic defined,
                                         
    
                                         decline during which trade and industrial activity
                                         
                                         are reduced generally identified by a fault in GDP
                                         
                                         in two consecutive quarters.
                                         
                                         Can you do me if I ever go to Twitter,
                                         
                                         go to Twitter if you can?
                                         
                                         And go to Twitter.
                                         
                                         Yeah, go to my Twitter, the last thing
                                         
                                         what White House released on July 21st.
                                         
    
                                         I think everybody has to see this.
                                         
                                         Go up a little bit.
                                         
                                         It's so interesting when they do it and how they do it.
                                         
                                         Keep going up, keep going up,
                                         
                                         it should come up on the next one.
                                         
                                         Go a little lower, go a little lower,
                                         
                                         right there, click on that one.
                                         
                                         Oh my God, it does that every single time, huh?
                                         
    
                                         Give me a second. I got you.
                                         
                                         Okay, so when you read that tweet, you know, what the White House released, that was released
                                         
                                         July 21st, which is what? Five days ago, I think today's the 26th. Make it bigger so they can see it.
                                         
                                         Just click on the... No, just click on... Yeah, click on that. Zoom out a little bit. Okay, watch that.
                                         
                                         Yeah, click on that. Zoom out a little bit, okay, watch that.
                                         
                                         So what is a recession?
                                         
                                         While some maintain that two consecutive quarters
                                         
                                         of fallen real GDP constitute a recession
                                         
    
                                         that is neither the official definition
                                         
                                         nor the way economists evaluate the state
                                         
                                         of the business cycle instead,
                                         
                                         both official determinations of recessions
                                         
                                         and economists assessment of economic activity
                                         
                                         are based on holistic.
                                         
                                         Look at the data, including the labor market, consuming on business spending, industrial
                                         
                                         production, incomes, based on these data, it is unlikely that the decline in GDP in the
                                         
    
                                         first quarter of this year, even this is the keyword here, this is the keyword, this
                                         
                                         is protecting to say they're about to announce that there was a decline in the GDP second quarter watch out and ends up even if it followed
                                         
                                         By an even if followed by another GDP decline in second quarter indicates a recession
                                         
                                         Now this isn't trying to redefine a recession pre midterms. I don't know what is Tom. What do you think about this?
                                         
                                         You know, it's just I think they're testing our limits to just how stupid. Yeah. You know, we, we think we are. They are. It's, it's just not working anymore. In order
                                         
                                         to sell this, you need other than very creative writers. And they have some, I mean, I give
                                         
                                         them credit for trying this spin, but the realities are out there. Everybody's dealing with this
                                         
                                         on a daily basis. And there's no credibility coming back from the White House anymore.
                                         
    
                                         Like, you would believe them if they said that.
                                         
                                         We all know the situation right now.
                                         
                                         I think they spend so much time ignoring the real issues,
                                         
                                         not finding ways to fix problems
                                         
                                         that they start believing at themselves.
                                         
                                         And every day, there's something new
                                         
                                         that they're trying to brainwash us with and newsflash.
                                         
                                         We're just not that stupid.
                                         
    
                                         I think collectively people are waking up.
                                         
                                         Yeah. For me, it's more like a, it's way else. It's like cloud over country where all they care
                                         
                                         about is the feel good virtue signaling stuff as they just watch like economic collapse happen. And
                                         
                                         then I mean, to your to the point there, I mean, they're, they're making excuses already and they're
                                         
                                         lying. Well, they know what's coming. They know that report is going to come.
                                         
                                         That's like saying, just because this tastes like water
                                         
                                         and the second tastes like water, it's not water.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
    
                                         And we're smarter than you.
                                         
                                         You have to believe us, man.
                                         
                                         That's not water.
                                         
                                         I guess not water.
                                         
                                         Yeah, because we make all the definitions you don't.
                                         
                                         Adam, would you trust them anymore?
                                         
                                         Like, come on, like over the pandemic.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
    
                                         And they're coming in here.
                                         
                                         Does anybody believe this?
                                         
                                         That's the point, though.
                                         
                                         That's, I think that's the main question,
                                         
                                         because what's the approval rating?
                                         
                                         What approval rating just came out?
                                         
                                         I saw something.
                                         
                                         Three.
                                         
    
                                         Because I know Adam always talks about that
                                         
                                         as bad as his approval rating is it's not lower than Trump.
                                         
                                         This might be worse now.
                                         
                                         Yeah, his approval rating is the lowest,
                                         
                                         like all time low, beating out Trump so if I'm correct though the Trump's approval rating was like at the end of his term
                                         
                                         Right, it was at the very end where cold is doing cold
                                         
                                         Yeah, and then after the January stuff
                                         
                                         But this is like this is now, you know, not even two years into it. I don't what do you think when you hear this kind of a you know
                                         
    
                                         Well, I think they narrative the the GDP
                                         
                                         Report is supposed to come out on Thursday. I believe and I don't believe that there think when you hear this kind of, you know, well, I think the, the GDP report is supposed to come out on Thursday, I believe, and I don't believe that there's going to be a pretty picture in sight.
                                         
                                         So right there now, they're trying to do a spin job.
                                         
                                         They have what's a new press secretary, Kareen, St. Pierre,
                                         
                                         she's out there sort of doing like mental wrestling,
                                         
                                         trying to redefine what a recession is.
                                         
                                         But whether they come out and say it's a recession or not,
                                         
                                         I think Americans feel what's going on, right,
                                         
    
                                         with inflation, with surging home prices, people feel it.
                                         
                                         So they're gonna, look, whether it's Republican or Democrat
                                         
                                         and nobody wants to own that you have, yeah, we have it.
                                         
                                         You know, congratulations, you're gonna try to do a spin job.
                                         
                                         But at the end of the day, the voters are gonna have,
                                         
                                         you know, their opportunity to say what's on their mind this November in the midterms.
                                         
                                         And we'll see what happens.
                                         
                                         But clearly, economically, it's not a pretty sight in America right now.
                                         
    
                                         We talk about the Fed doing the quantitative tightening right now.
                                         
                                         So they're saying that inflation is what it reached 9.1% in June.
                                         
                                         They're starting to say that it's coming down.
                                         
                                         They're starting to say that gas prices are coming down.
                                         
                                         And whether you're a Democrat or a Republican,
                                         
                                         I think we all are on the same page.
                                         
                                         We want prices to go down.
                                         
                                         We want inflation to go down.
                                         
    
                                         We don't want a shitty economy.
                                         
                                         So we'll see what kind of spin job they do.
                                         
                                         But for the sake of the country,
                                         
                                         I'd like to see us not in a recession,
                                         
                                         but like you talked about on your housing,
                                         
                                         real estate housing segment that you did recently,
                                         
                                         I think the what my
                                         
                                         fear is it is the worst still upon us like if this is the worst of the worst right now I
                                         
    
                                         think Americans have dealt with it is the worst is something worse coming I think that's
                                         
                                         the question right now. So I'm going to read this from an economist if you can pull this
                                         
                                         one up because this is all over the place Here's an economist his name is
                                         
                                         Noreal Rubini just so you know who no real Rubini is he's an Iranian American economist he teaches at NYU
                                         
                                         Stern school of business and chairman of Rubini macro associate. So this is not a
                                         
                                         regular guy. He got his degree from Harvard and
                                         
                                         He's done very well for himself
                                         
                                         he also want to Hebrew University of Jerusalem I know you were first so so
                                         
    
                                         economists shallow recession calls are totally delusional rubiny war so this is a
                                         
                                         Bloomberg article he said the US is facing a deep recession as interest rates
                                         
                                         rise and the economy is burdened by high debt loads. Calling those expecting a shallow downturn
                                         
                                         Delusional there are many reasons why we are going to have a severe
                                         
                                         Recession and a severe debt and financial crisis the chairman and chief executive of
                                         
                                         Macro Associates said on Bloomberg TV on Monday the idea that this is going to be short and shallow as totally
                                         
                                         Delusional look you got two. You pick and choose who you
                                         
                                         want to believe. Okay. I was in LA this last week and I was given the talk and I decided to open up
                                         
    
                                         my message in a complete different way. On Wednesday night, we had a dinner with one of our lawyers,
                                         
                                         entertainment lawyers, solid guy. We went to cross stations, great conversation. Anytime I go to
                                         
                                         dinner with a lawyer, I have a time clock where I said at 45 minutes,
                                         
                                         I'm gonna say I got an emergency call,
                                         
                                         we gotta go, it's been great seeing you,
                                         
                                         but this lawyer is a money that way.
                                         
                                         Two and a half hours later,
                                         
                                         we're having a blast, funny guy, and he's a badass.
                                         
    
                                         And so we're sitting where I have it,
                                         
                                         I said, Pat, you won't believe it.
                                         
                                         You know, I just, my house in Tuluka Lake,
                                         
                                         2000 square feet, three bedrooms, right? And I've tried to, my house in Tuluka Lake, 2,000 square feet, three bedrooms.
                                         
                                         Right, and I've tried to van nice,
                                         
                                         like, to look a lake chandelier.
                                         
                                         He says, $1.8 million.
                                         
                                         He says, I can't even believe it.
                                         
    
                                         He says, how can you live in a one point,
                                         
                                         who can afford a $1.8 million house, three bedrooms?
                                         
                                         So I go and I'm giving this speech at Santa Monica.
                                         
                                         I went to Santa Monica and I spoke at Manabello
                                         
                                         and at Grenada Hills.
                                         
                                         So here's how I opened it up. I got a question for you guys.
                                         
                                         I said, raise your hand if you have no plans of leaving California in the next three to
                                         
                                         five years.
                                         
    
                                         I just looked at them and I was like, what?
                                         
                                         I mean, I asked this question one more time.
                                         
                                         Raise your hand if you have no plans of leaving the states you love in the next three to
                                         
                                         five years.
                                         
                                         70% of hands go up.
                                         
                                         That's 70% is, to me it's low.
                                         
                                         I thought it was gonna be higher.
                                         
                                         They have no plans.
                                         
    
                                         No plans of leaving in an X-3 to five.
                                         
                                         And how many people in the room by the way?
                                         
                                         400 people.
                                         
                                         Okay.
                                         
                                         So 300 people are not leaving.
                                         
                                         Dude, so 300 people are not leaving.
                                         
                                         So I said raise your hand.
                                         
                                         If for the first time in your life,
                                         
    
                                         you're actually considering leaving the state of California
                                         
                                         30% will leave their mom like okay interesting 100 people though. It's a lot of people So I said the phone I said can I just speak to the people that are planning on staying here?
                                         
                                         Yes, absolutely. I said if you're staying in California what you're telling the world is
                                         
                                         You like being part of the state that has the highest gas prices, okay? You're okay with that
                                         
                                         You're saying you're okay with being in the state that has the highest state taxes period. You're okay with that. You're saying you don't
                                         
                                         mind being in a state with the highest all in taxes. You're okay with that. You're saying
                                         
                                         you don't mind being in a state that has the highest homelessness in America. You're
                                         
                                         okay with that. As a duet, I'm going to continue. You don't mind having the most, by the
                                         
    
                                         way, this Friday, they're announcing masks are coming back in LA just so you know, I said,
                                         
                                         you don't mind. Stop. This is, this is is an LA you can see that you don't mind the fact that you're
                                         
                                         overly regulated controlled everyone's telling you everything you need to be doing you're okay with
                                         
                                         that right I said do you still planning on staying here their hands were yep we're still planning
                                         
                                         on staying I said no problem then if you're planning on staying here why don't we do a little bit of
                                         
                                         math together that's a short let's do it I said a friend of mine had I didn't know with two nights ago
                                         
                                         He said he just sold his 2000 square foot house barely 2000 square feet three bedroom two bathroom for 1.8 million dollars
                                         
                                         I said do we have a realtor here?
                                         
    
                                         Lady stands up as it can you help me do math here together? Yes, if I'm buying a 1.8 million dollar house
                                         
                                         That's only 2,000 square feet barely in this three bedroom If I got a family of four, I can barely live in this place.
                                         
                                         How much of a down payment do I need to put on this one point eight million dollar house?
                                         
                                         She says 10% minimum.
                                         
                                         I said, what's 10% of 1.8 million?
                                         
                                         180. How many middle Americans in California have a hundred and eighty thousand
                                         
                                         dollars? Not a level.
                                         
                                         Let's just say you got it.
                                         
    
                                         So you put a hundred and eighty thousand dollars down that one point eight.
                                         
                                         Now you're financing what?
                                         
                                         One point six to I say, can you tell me what's a mortgage payment on 1.62
                                         
                                         She says roughly $12,000 PNI everything in close a perfect fine
                                         
                                         I said this $12,000 I make is it pre-tax money or after tax money she says that's after tax money
                                         
                                         So so what do I need to make pre-tax?
                                         
                                         You need to she says around $20,000 to a four 12,000 dollars. That's's perfect. I said, is everyone tracking their like, we're tracking.
                                         
                                         That's perfect.
                                         
    
                                         What is the number, typically, you're only supposed to spend per month on your mortgage
                                         
                                         payment?
                                         
                                         Isn't it supposed to be a third?
                                         
                                         It's supposed to be a third.
                                         
                                         So, for a two thousand square foot house, that's only three bedroom.
                                         
                                         If you need to make 20 grand pre-tax money, what do you need to make to be able to afford
                                         
                                         a third ever going to mortgage payment? They said $60,000. I said, what's that times, 12, 7, 20? You need to make 20 grand pre-tax money. What do you need to make to be able to afford
                                         
                                         a third of a go into mortgage payment?
                                         
    
                                         They said $60,000.
                                         
                                         I said, what's that times, 12, 7, 20?
                                         
                                         I said, how many guys are gonna make 7, 20 in California
                                         
                                         the next 30 to five years?
                                         
                                         I said, now let me ask you this,
                                         
                                         how many are still planning on staying in the state
                                         
                                         of California?
                                         
                                         You should say, you see what happened.
                                         
    
                                         I said, how many of you just based on that
                                         
                                         are open to the idea of leaving the state
                                         
                                         in the next 30 to five years?
                                         
                                         You know what happened?
                                         
                                         What happened?
                                         
                                         Of the 70% half of them raised their hands and they said, that's just not sustainable.
                                         
                                         I said, then let me speak to the other guys that are planning on staying here.
                                         
                                         How the hell are you going to get to 720?
                                         
    
                                         Tell me I'm curious.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         I really want to know.
                                         
                                         The numbers just don't make sense.
                                         
                                         I mean, what do you want?
                                         
                                         The median income in this country is 50 grand.
                                         
                                         And Bob's talking about making 700 grand.
                                         
                                         Here's what's the gap is ridiculous.
                                         
    
                                         And on top of that, at all of this inflation,
                                         
                                         at all of this stuff that's going on,
                                         
                                         how are you gonna be ready for this?
                                         
                                         I don't understand how people in California survive.
                                         
                                         Well, why are you guys looking at me?
                                         
                                         By the way, the weather's great.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         And the rain's just won the Super Bowl.
                                         
    
                                         Even on top of that too,
                                         
                                         it just the pressure that the federal government did with the lockdowns in state,
                                         
                                         specifically in California.
                                         
                                         I mean, they just ruined the middle class and then the inflation right after.
                                         
                                         I mean, it's the whole like who gets the judge in essential business, you know,
                                         
                                         and then you look at states like this great state of Florida and to Santhus who I hope is
                                         
                                         president one day and Texas, like they incentivize small businesses and they, you know, and that's
                                         
                                         what we should be doing rather than letting these, you know, conglomerate huge corporations
                                         
    
                                         just swallow up the small man like it sucks.
                                         
                                         They pat to your point about mass coming back in LA.
                                         
                                         So about I'd say about a week and a half ago, I started getting the alerts from the LA
                                         
                                         times on my phone.
                                         
                                         I know week, the numbers are up where there's probably, I couldn't believe it.
                                         
                                         I was so depressed.
                                         
                                         I mean, literally, I could not believe what I was reading
                                         
                                         and they kept throwing it at you for the next three or four days.
                                         
    
                                         A couple of days ago, the LA time sent out a little alert
                                         
                                         that said that the levels have tapered down a little bit.
                                         
                                         So I bet there's some powerful forces in LA
                                         
                                         that are saying there is no damn way you're doing that again because I don't know, man, I'd be shocked if they do it again.
                                         
                                         It was trending that way, but I just saw one that said that the numbers have gone down
                                         
                                         a little.
                                         
                                         So, you know, LA is on a tipping point right now because we have a mayor election coming
                                         
                                         up this fall.
                                         
    
                                         And there is a progressive on one side and there's Rick Caruso on the other side who I believe
                                         
                                         personally will fix L.A.
                                         
                                         I mean, he's got a background of doing that.
                                         
                                         He's very tough.
                                         
                                         He ran as a Democrat, even though he's a businessman.
                                         
                                         He saved USC.
                                         
                                         I mean, if you want a fascinating read,
                                         
                                         look up in the L.A. times the story about how Rick Caruso
                                         
    
                                         was brought in as the de facto CEO of USC
                                         
                                         after they were facing billions of dollars in settlements
                                         
                                         from a rogue doctor, abusing patients and whatnot.
                                         
                                         I mean, they couldn't have been lower.
                                         
                                         He brought in the new football coach, essentially Lincoln Riley.
                                         
                                         He got them back from being on it in debt from these huge payments.
                                         
                                         He saved USC.
                                         
                                         This guy's smart.
                                         
    
                                         He'll fix homelessness.
                                         
                                         He'll bring hope to people.
                                         
                                         I think he'll help with business.
                                         
                                         I mean, this is a big, big thing coming up in November in California with that mayor
                                         
                                         election in LA.
                                         
                                         On Friday night, we had dinner with a couple guys that are, you know, Hollywood type of
                                         
                                         guys, you know, actors, producers, directors, and we're having dinner with them.
                                         
                                         And I said, so you guys politically, you don't lean towards the right.
                                         
    
                                         You lean towards the left.
                                         
                                         This is what side you've been on.
                                         
                                         Yeah, what about it?
                                         
                                         How do you feel about what's going on
                                         
                                         in your city and your state?
                                         
                                         What do you think about masks next week?
                                         
                                         What do you think about your governor?
                                         
                                         And you'd be amazed what they said.
                                         
    
                                         They said, Pat, low key, there aren't many people
                                         
                                         in Hollywood that support this guy.
                                         
                                         But what's the alternative
                                         
                                         if you're gonna be vocal about it?
                                         
                                         You have to, so-
                                         
                                         If you're in the entertainment industry,
                                         
                                         you have to.
                                         
                                         Even in the entertainment business, you either support just to get career advancement or you
                                         
    
                                         just don't talk about it.
                                         
                                         Okay.
                                         
                                         They're not happy about them.
                                         
                                         Ask, can you pull up that NBC story?
                                         
                                         I just sent you.
                                         
                                         Look at this.
                                         
                                         LA County Indoor Mask Man, they could come back this week.
                                         
                                         Look at the date.
                                         
    
                                         Yes, the date.
                                         
                                         July 25th.
                                         
                                         There you go.
                                         
                                         LA County Indoor Mask Man, they I'm not going back this week.
                                         
                                         I think you nailed it on the head though,
                                         
                                         because cancel culture isn't just like
                                         
                                         in a media internet thing.
                                         
                                         It is in professional, like Los Angeles.
                                         
    
                                         A lot of my friends who are actors
                                         
                                         will on the side, like whisper in my ear,
                                         
                                         I have a clock at the house and I, you know,
                                         
                                         but they're, if they were to say that
                                         
                                         to anybody on set, they're fired in a heart over because they have a gun you're saying
                                         
                                         Oh, they say that they made it that's that that's just how it starts right? Oh, I heard he's a gun owner and then it's like well
                                         
                                         He he looked at me weird. He he sexually saw and then it's it's the cancel the cancel play, you know
                                         
                                         They do it to so many people but to Matt's point here
                                         
    
                                         So you guys heard about shepel show they that got canceled many apples. So we got first
                                         
                                         avenue. All right, he's performed. That's Prince's club.
                                         
                                         Remember first avenue, Purple Rain, Epic club in downtown
                                         
                                         Minneapolis, all set to perform. They cancel on him on Wednesday.
                                         
                                         So then a different theater booked him anyone over there and did
                                         
                                         some killer shows. But they talked to the people like, why would
                                         
                                         you do this? And they sent it was about the trends, right?
                                         
                                         The trans topic. And the owners of first avenue were saying,
                                         
    
                                         hey, we have to do it.
                                         
                                         Our lives were being threatened.
                                         
                                         Our family's lives were by who?
                                         
                                         By who?
                                         
                                         By trans supporters.
                                         
                                         The ones that came out there and protested
                                         
                                         and were throwing eggs at people waiting in line.
                                         
                                         So to everybody's point here,
                                         
    
                                         just because they're acting some way publicly,
                                         
                                         doesn't mean that's how they really feel,
                                         
                                         but people's hands are tied. They're backed into a corner
                                         
                                         Let me tell you what I did. So
                                         
                                         While I was there this is this is what I think a lot of people need to be doing
                                         
                                         Okay, and and if you're listening to this if you don't like your state
                                         
                                         Well do something about it. So pal, what can I do about it? Very simple. Let me simplify it for you
                                         
                                         number one if you know people that would make great governors
                                         
    
                                         Go challenge them to run and back them up if you think somebody is a person that would be a good leader
                                         
                                         Go have a serious conversation with them one of the days while we're in LA. I go to a very
                                         
                                         Very very well-known man named Dudley.
                                         
                                         And I sat down with him for 45.
                                         
                                         I said, so tell me how's California been last?
                                         
                                         Obviously, I'm first trying to recruit him to Florida.
                                         
                                         It's the first thing I do.
                                         
                                         Then if you say no to move in Florida or Texas,
                                         
    
                                         and then I say, you're planning on staying here?
                                         
                                         Yes, perfect.
                                         
                                         You do wanna stay here?
                                         
                                         Yes, you love your state, yes.
                                         
                                         You wanna do something about it?
                                         
                                         Yes.
                                         
                                         Why don't you run?
                                         
                                         Why do I need to run?
                                         
    
                                         Who else needs to run? If none of the great leaders who have backbone wanna run, then who the hell is you run? Why do I need to run? Who else needs to run?
                                         
                                         If none of the great leaders who have backbone want to run,
                                         
                                         then who the hell is going to run?
                                         
                                         Is it always going to be somebody else that's going to run?
                                         
                                         If you love your state, you love the policies,
                                         
                                         well, my way of contributing is in a different way.
                                         
                                         Totally get it.
                                         
                                         I mean, we all have a different way of contributing,
                                         
    
                                         but eventually, if you really want to change policies,
                                         
                                         you got to run. Yeah, but it's not pretty.
                                         
                                         Of course, it's not pretty. It's not supposed to be attractive. It's not supposed to be
                                         
                                         but go run. It is the only way if the people in California truly want their state to improve,
                                         
                                         get behind a candidate and rally. Rally and be a flag carrier like never before. Do whatever you can for that person to get elected
                                         
                                         and then help make some changes.
                                         
                                         It is worth it.
                                         
                                         Or if that's not what you wanna do,
                                         
    
                                         you can't sit on the sidelines and say,
                                         
                                         well, you know, maybe one day, yeah, maybe one day,
                                         
                                         yeah, maybe one day, yeah, maybe one day,
                                         
                                         yeah, maybe one day, no.
                                         
                                         Then you have the choice that you gotta make for your family.
                                         
                                         So one guy said, well, Pat, you know,
                                         
                                         I'm not gonna leave. I'm going to stay here.
                                         
                                         Okay.
                                         
    
                                         So let me ask you a question.
                                         
                                         What's your point?
                                         
                                         You sound brave when you say the way you say it.
                                         
                                         Like others who leave are less brave than you.
                                         
                                         So let me ask you a question.
                                         
                                         Didn't your parents leave another country to come to America?
                                         
                                         Are your parents not brave?
                                         
                                         If they left Mexico to come here, will your parents not brave?
                                         
    
                                         If my family left Iran to come here, are they parents not break? If my family left Iran to come here,
                                         
                                         are they should they have stuck it out in Iran,
                                         
                                         either impact through policies
                                         
                                         or make the better choice and move.
                                         
                                         But the pain must be felt.
                                         
                                         And you know what, I think if they don't have the wherewithal
                                         
                                         or the ability to run for governor
                                         
                                         and they're powerful and important
                                         
    
                                         and they could have influence,
                                         
                                         somebody has to stand up and support a candidate that goes against the grain.
                                         
                                         That you're going to take some public backlash from it.
                                         
                                         I think that would almost be as brave as running for a...
                                         
                                         Don't you, if some powerful person in Hollywood supported a record...
                                         
                                         It does happen a little bit, but you get the Jeffrey Katzenbergs of the world
                                         
                                         who are just attacking Karuso and whatnot.
                                         
                                         But even if you couldn't run for governor,
                                         
    
                                         I think if you supported somebody that was pro business
                                         
                                         or wanted to actually clean up a state,
                                         
                                         I mean, that's bravery too.
                                         
                                         Have we invited Karuso yet or no?
                                         
                                         I don't know if we have, we can.
                                         
                                         Can you text Rob and say, let's invite him?
                                         
                                         I mean, I know it's Florida, but we get him a few million eyeballs.
                                         
                                         I'd love to speak with him.
                                         
    
                                         Hey, can I ask you guys a question?
                                         
                                         Just back on the recession thing, I'm curious about this
                                         
                                         because I have a theory.
                                         
                                         So regarding the recession, how cognitive do you think Joe Biden is?
                                         
                                         Literally.
                                         
                                         Do you think he's driving anything?
                                         
                                         Do you think he has any original ideas?
                                         
                                         What's whoever because here's my thought?
                                         
    
                                         There's no way in hell he's on the ticket in 2024 and he knows it.
                                         
                                         So I think if he's cognitive enough that he's thinking about legacy right now, he spent
                                         
                                         his whole life in government.
                                         
                                         And I think it's his motivation is to not be the worst president.
                                         
                                         So he's making day-to-day survival decisions, not leadership decisions, because he's trending
                                         
                                         to be as bad as Jimmy Carter.
                                         
                                         I mean, that's who you compare him to right now.
                                         
                                         So my question is, do you think he has, is he calling the shots on any of this or is he just back hopefully
                                         
    
                                         reading the prompt or not screwing that up?
                                         
                                         I mean, that's, I think that he's waking up in the morning to a B 12 shot and his handlers
                                         
                                         and their whole goal is for him not to say something stupid. I don't think anything's
                                         
                                         coming out of him. I think it's is corrupt team that's pushing this progressive narrative. I mean all the all the status there like when he has a Q card telling him where to sit at your chair and you have to capitalize
                                         
                                         your I mean at this point you're not even coherent and I was making fun of it there for a while but to me as like
                                         
                                         an American and I love this country like my family. It is my family. family, it's given me everything, it's terrifying.
                                         
                                         It's absolutely fucking terrifying.
                                         
                                         And then, whenever he goes, hey, well, he needs to step down,
                                         
    
                                         I'm like, so you want Kamala Harris in there?
                                         
                                         Like, it's just, it's bad form right now.
                                         
                                         And bro, I don't even think Democrats
                                         
                                         want him to step down because they're afraid Kamala
                                         
                                         to run it, because it's even gonna be worse.
                                         
                                         Now, notice how much they hide Kamala from the camera.
                                         
                                         So it's not like, I know it's a,
                                         
                                         you can't find her anywhere these days.
                                         
    
                                         No, by the way, you know what,
                                         
                                         I knew a lot of good friends in high school
                                         
                                         and in middle school and junior high school.
                                         
                                         And this is pure shout out to Kamala Harris.
                                         
                                         I had a lot of good friends that would grade at
                                         
                                         hide and go seek, she's the champion.
                                         
                                         I mean, I've never met anybody that's good as she is at it.
                                         
                                         Do you think, like, what's your opinion on Biden right now?
                                         
    
                                         Because, I mean, where does it go?
                                         
                                         So for me, I've said this many times,
                                         
                                         I think in life, in companies, do sooner you realize
                                         
                                         whether you are a number one, a number two,
                                         
                                         a number three, a number four, or a number five, six, seven, eight, nine,
                                         
                                         10, the better you're going to do.
                                         
                                         If you plug in an eight to be the one that company is going to collapse.
                                         
                                         If you put a one in a seven, you're under utilizing the one,
                                         
    
                                         and eventually that seven is going to leave and be a one elsewhere.
                                         
                                         But a one is a one, and a five is a five, and you just have to understand that.
                                         
                                         It took Carmelo years to realize that you want to win a championship, you're not going to win as a one and a five is a five and you just have to understand that it took Carmelo years to realize
                                         
                                         that you want to win a championship, you're not going to win as a one. AI didn't win as a one.
                                         
                                         Okay. Westbrook. So court. So you have to know. And by the way, this is by far one of the hardest
                                         
                                         thing to embrace. It's the hardest thing to embrace to know that you're not a one, okay? So biting to me I think Bernie Sanders is more a one than he's a number one
                                         
                                         I know the sounds weird, but forget about being a socialist. I think Sanders is a in the socialist community
                                         
                                         He is a one. I think in the Democratic policies. I don't think he's a one
                                         
    
                                         I think there's plenty of guys that would be better ones than he would be
                                         
                                         So I don't see the guys the one. I think there's plenty of guys that would be better ones than he would be. So I don't see the guys a leader.
                                         
                                         I see him as a potential number two, number three.
                                         
                                         I don't think two is even high.
                                         
                                         I think he's a number three, four, five guy.
                                         
                                         Do you think administration has a responsibility
                                         
                                         to tell the American public that his health?
                                         
                                         Or do you saw the interview with Pete?
                                         
    
                                         Did you see the interview with Pete
                                         
                                         when Pete was being pushed yesterday?
                                         
                                         I don't know if you guys saw that or not.
                                         
                                         We are.
                                         
                                         Pete Buddha Chesh. Did you see that or not? He was being pushed yesterday. I don't know if you guys saw that or not. We are. We are.
                                         
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                                         We are. We are. We are. We are. We are. mentally fit to run America. And President Trump wasn't stumbling,
                                         
                                         and then he shows all these pictures.
                                         
                                         By the way, you have to see this interview,
                                         
                                         we'll find it and we'll post it.
                                         
                                         And he says, President Trump wasn't stumbling.
                                         
                                         President Trump wasn't shaking hands with ghosts.
                                         
                                         President Trump wasn't being told where to sit.
                                         
                                         President Trump wasn't doing any of that stuff.
                                         
    
                                         How come you're not publicly calling out
                                         
                                         the mental fitness of Joe Biden as you did
                                         
                                         of Trump and it's 10 times worse. And obviously Pete Buttichet says, I can see the level of insult
                                         
                                         in your question. So I will dismiss that. He says, no, no, you can't do that. You said,
                                         
                                         President Trump three years ago wasn't mentally fit to run the country. And he never went through
                                         
                                         what this guy's going through. He says, well, I'd love to see President Trump ride a bicycle.
                                         
                                         That's what he said about the fact that there was a doctor
                                         
                                         that came out and said the same thing,
                                         
    
                                         a doctor that treated Trump and Biden.
                                         
                                         And he said, what was the consensus?
                                         
                                         Same thing, I think it was the exact same question.
                                         
                                         But that's how they respond, right?
                                         
                                         You put a cat in a bathtub and they just react with violence
                                         
                                         or anger and then no logic.
                                         
                                         Just answer the question.
                                         
                                         You see this everywhere you hear, you see Shapiro put guys in that position.
                                         
    
                                         You see all these, all these, and they just can't respond.
                                         
                                         They, they get mad and say, well, that's offensive.
                                         
                                         I'm in and walk out of the interview.
                                         
                                         Like that's not debate.
                                         
                                         That's just you being a child.
                                         
                                         Here's my question.
                                         
                                         You lost.
                                         
                                         If you lost, yeah.
                                         
    
                                         If Biden is better as a number two, which I actually fully agree with.
                                         
                                         I don't think he's, I think he's, I think he's, I think he's, I think he's,
                                         
                                         I think he's the accidental president, the timing,
                                         
                                         you know, COVID, Trump, you know, exact,
                                         
                                         his polling wasn't obviously doing so great.
                                         
                                         Biden, he was more the conservative Democrat,
                                         
                                         not the leftist, Bernie Sanders.
                                         
                                         But would you have a problem if, in fact,
                                         
    
                                         Obama was helping him call the shots
                                         
                                         behind the scenes or even a Susan Rice?
                                         
                                         I think that gives me a lot more comfort if someone, quote unquote, grown up in the room
                                         
                                         was actually helping run the government rather than Biden, meaning he's not exactly who
                                         
                                         you want in charge or do you want him in charge because he is the president.
                                         
                                         I don't have a problem if, quote unquote, his handlers. i don't think it's like the daycare staff i think it's
                                         
                                         susan rice i think it's um... secretary of state i think it's it's it's only
                                         
                                         blinkin i think there's some people
                                         
    
                                         around him who i do
                                         
                                         trust enough to control the government
                                         
                                         so do you have a problem if it's obama actually calling the shots
                                         
                                         let me ask you question
                                         
                                         uh... do you think if you're in my ear you can help me be a better basketball You have a problem if it's Obama actually calling the shots. Let me ask you a question.
                                         
                                         Do you think if you're in my ear, you can help me be a better basketball player?
                                         
                                         Yeah, I can.
                                         
                                         You think you can do that?
                                         
    
                                         I can show you form.
                                         
                                         You can show me form.
                                         
                                         Just like if I...
                                         
                                         Can you...
                                         
                                         He was in my ear, you probably helped me be a better...
                                         
                                         But shoot, Mark's...
                                         
                                         But no matter how much you're in my ear, can you help me play in the NBA?
                                         
                                         No, sir.
                                         
    
                                         Why not? Some things you just can't teach. What if Jordan's in my ear. Can you help me play in the NBA? No sir. Why not?
                                         
                                         Some things you just can't see what if what if Jordan's in my ear
                                         
                                         Let's say Jordan every day spends two hours in my ear telling me how to be a better basketball player. I'm not going in the NBA
                                         
                                         Probably not the NBA, but your mentality The point of luck is everybody has limitations in different areas of life
                                         
                                         President Biden's limitation at best is a VP of ops,
                                         
                                         VP of ops, not a president.
                                         
                                         I'm with you.
                                         
                                         So even the point I'm trying to make to you is,
                                         
    
                                         I can go and talk to VP of ops to be the CEO
                                         
                                         of an insurance company.
                                         
                                         And no matter what I tell that VP of ops in his ear,
                                         
                                         he's not gonna be able to execute.
                                         
                                         There's a lot of experiences you need,
                                         
                                         you need to be a leader
                                         
                                         and Biden just doesn't have it today.
                                         
                                         Maybe 30 years ago, I don't know,
                                         
    
                                         maybe it would have been different
                                         
                                         if his mental fitness was different,
                                         
                                         but he doesn't have the capacity today to be present.
                                         
                                         Look, I'm on the same page,
                                         
                                         I don't think he's a qualified number one.
                                         
                                         You know, I will say that it's,
                                         
                                         I haven't seen anything that's like, all right,
                                         
                                         he has full blown dementia.
                                         
    
                                         He has no clue what he's talking about.
                                         
                                         I think obviously satire and humor and, all right, he has full blown dementia. He has no clue what he's talking about. I think obviously, satire and humor and doubling down on anything that he does wrong.
                                         
                                         He fell off the bike.
                                         
                                         I get it.
                                         
                                         But is it that bad?
                                         
                                         I guess that's my question.
                                         
                                         How bad is it really?
                                         
                                         I think it's as almost as bad as it can get.
                                         
    
                                         He can't talk.
                                         
                                         You have to just sit down and listen to an interview.
                                         
                                         Did you not watch him go end of quote, repeat the line?
                                         
                                         Like sit there and read the book.
                                         
                                         He ran, he read the book.
                                         
                                         Yeah, even in Saudi Arabia.
                                         
                                         And this is not a sad.
                                         
                                         You haven't seen it at him.
                                         
    
                                         And that's the thing, it's not like for me, it's like you had a bad day.
                                         
                                         It's consistency is king and it's consistently awful and it's progressively getting worse.
                                         
                                         I mean, even look back when he was VP or look back a year ago, like you're seeing a massive decline, like all politics aside, being the president of the United States
                                         
                                         is a really, really hard job, right? The way to the world, everybody's going to scrutinize
                                         
                                         you on the left or the right, your travel schedule. It is the hardest job in America, right?
                                         
                                         So when you put someone with the mental decline that he has in one of the world's most challenging
                                         
                                         jobs, yeah. And here's the thing he has in one of the world's most challenging jobs.
                                         
                                         Yeah, and here's the thing he's vulnerable so the progresses are all over him.
                                         
    
                                         I mean, he's just a little sucker right now, fallen for all of that.
                                         
                                         If he was a CEO, the board of directors would be removing them right about now.
                                         
                                         Don't you think? Thank you. That's a perfect way of putting it.
                                         
                                         But by the way, let me ask you this. Do you think he makes it out?
                                         
                                         Do you think he makes it out? It's a long time, two and a half years.
                                         
                                         That's a long time, I don't think so. No. You don't think he makes it out. You also don't think he's going to make it out. Do you think he makes it out? It's a long time, two and a half years. That's a long time. I don't think so.
                                         
                                         No. You don't think he makes it out.
                                         
                                         You also don't think he's gonna make it out.
                                         
    
                                         In the primaries, he said, I'll come down.
                                         
                                         Something along the lines of I'll come down with a disease
                                         
                                         and I'll be switched out. I think that's exactly what I said.
                                         
                                         Yeah, he did. He said, he's got a joke.
                                         
                                         Yeah, he said it.
                                         
                                         But you know what, I think the Democrats are so afraid of Kamala Harris having that,
                                         
                                         you know, just being in front of the microphone every single day,
                                         
                                         that they'll prop him up
                                         
    
                                         anyway they possibly can.
                                         
                                         Like we can get Bernie's if they have to.
                                         
                                         I actually agree with you.
                                         
                                         I'm just curious.
                                         
                                         This is what's crazy.
                                         
                                         For somebody that's, you know,
                                         
                                         follows like history, first person to,
                                         
                                         first person to do this and all that stuff,
                                         
    
                                         I don't know, I don't know if history wants to have Kamala as the first women president.
                                         
                                         I'd much rather have Hillary as the first in heaven.
                                         
                                         I know that sounds very weird to say that, but it's very weird.
                                         
                                         You have a choice between Kamala and Hillary to be the first ever.
                                         
                                         Unbelievable.
                                         
                                         She's not even close.
                                         
                                         She's not even close.
                                         
                                         She's not even close. She's not even close. Listen, the answer isn't neither.
                                         
    
                                         The answer isn't like, I'm not sitting here campaigning saying,
                                         
                                         I'm gonna volunteer to go help Hillary,
                                         
                                         but there's no way, at least Hillary,
                                         
                                         Hillary was a person that could get up
                                         
                                         and articulate a message. You know she's BS and you know, a person that could get up and articulate a message.
                                         
                                         You know she's BS and you know she's just saying
                                         
                                         whatever's gonna take out that time,
                                         
                                         but have you ever come all of a given some answers?
                                         
    
                                         And she's always laughing and she's got that weird vibe
                                         
                                         of the way she speaks.
                                         
                                         That is a bad idea.
                                         
                                         I actually don't even think it's close.
                                         
                                         I think Hillary is way more qualified than a commoner.
                                         
                                         Okay, whether you like Hillary or not, robotic, you know, paid, whatever, she's killing people,
                                         
                                         whatever you want to say about Hillary, 50% of America voted for her to be president.
                                         
                                         She went to Yale.
                                         
    
                                         And she lost by a slim margin to Donald Trump.
                                         
                                         Kamala didn't even get one percent of the Democratic primary vote.
                                         
                                         She's not even Ann called the president racist.
                                         
                                         But here, let me, let me toss on my tin hat for a second because that very statement,
                                         
                                         I think, justifies an exited Biden at some point during his turn because the progressives
                                         
                                         will have the opportunity to come all with her influence.
                                         
                                         We have the opportunity to go the first ever female African American president did not
                                         
                                         earn, given right?
                                         
    
                                         Participation trophies are real in America.
                                         
                                         That's what it seems like for me will happen,
                                         
                                         even if it's six months out or something,
                                         
                                         I don't know, but it's not earned.
                                         
                                         I hope you're set.
                                         
                                         Let me give you a dark, dark perspective
                                         
                                         that I have in this topic.
                                         
                                         How much influence you think Hillary has today in America?
                                         
    
                                         A lot, okay.
                                         
                                         I think a lot still.
                                         
                                         Oh, bro, bro, let me tell you my assessment,
                                         
                                         but again, I'm fully, I'm a business guy.
                                         
                                         I'm an entrepreneur. I'm not a guy that's involved in this world. But I will tell you this.
                                         
                                         I think she has a lot of influence. And I think the reason why Biden may not step down,
                                         
                                         if there is even as any influence left is because of Hillary. Hillary Hillary will not, she cannot accept Kamala be in the first president.
                                         
                                         I don't think, I think if Hillary has any influence, she's probably the one that wakes up every
                                         
    
                                         morning telling Biden's assistant to give him vitamin C, to give him the vitamin B12,
                                         
                                         to give him TRT, to give him whatever it is that he's on, to just make it for two and a half more years because Hillary over her dead body to have Kamala be a president before her.
                                         
                                         Anybody but Kamala she would be okay for Michelle to be the first president.
                                         
                                         She would not be okay with Kamala being the first president.
                                         
                                         So I think in a way Hillary's keeping Biden in office for another two and a half.
                                         
                                         By the way, I don't think your assessment is fully wrong at all.
                                         
                                         If you're talking about someone like Hillary and you're seeing that if Kamala just gets kind of
                                         
                                         caked walked into the presidency, Hillary's like,
                                         
    
                                         this does not sit well with me at all.
                                         
                                         But it's not much money I spend on my celebration party.
                                         
                                         You know, I didn't go down.
                                         
                                         I really think that part of Biden's main,
                                         
                                         if he can have these thoughts,
                                         
                                         is not letting Hunter blow him up.
                                         
                                         Just keeping that thing so that thing doesn't explode
                                         
                                         truly because that could just open
                                         
    
                                         a Pandora's box so much.
                                         
                                         And you know, he's never, that's why governors make good presidents because they've run something,
                                         
                                         a state.
                                         
                                         They've made big decisions.
                                         
                                         When you're a senator for 40 years, what have you done?
                                         
                                         You run for office every once in a while.
                                         
                                         You take handouts, you know, you vote, but you're not a leader.
                                         
                                         You know, you don't do that kind of thing.
                                         
    
                                         So I think this whole hunter, you know, it's so funny because if I have an extra muffin at Starbucks, Shonda knows and I get in trouble.
                                         
                                         I can't get away with anything. I'm 100 biting get away with all the trouble for having
                                         
                                         an muffin. I get it. Have you not been black? I mean, that hurt. Yeah. Yeah. Well, yeah, I mean,
                                         
                                         dude, I love Trump Jr. Great, great dude. And I'm like, I can't imagine under Trump's presidency if he
                                         
                                         did one, like one ounce of like the, the, the ton that by or a hunter has done. Like,
                                         
                                         do we, they just completely ignore it now? Like as if it's totally fine to be smoking
                                         
                                         crack and having sex with prostitutes and all these other things. I mean, do you, buddy,
                                         
                                         I look like you're having a lot of fun, but you know, not as the, uh, the president.
                                         
    
                                         Well, I don't know if it's ignored. It's like an embarrassment, man.
                                         
                                         Yeah, I agree with you.
                                         
                                         There's nothing attractive about the president's son
                                         
                                         smoking crack with hookers.
                                         
                                         No doubt.
                                         
                                         The question is, did he sell his country out or not?
                                         
                                         And that's where it remains to be seen.
                                         
                                         So the jury's still out of that.
                                         
    
                                         Real quick, I want to add, you said earlier,
                                         
                                         you would feel more comfortable if you thought
                                         
                                         that Obama was running behind the scenes right
                                         
                                         but that's what's happening it's it's all obama holdovers and then he blinkin
                                         
                                         was a former deputy deputy secretary of state to obama ron clain was
                                         
                                         uh... chief of staff to outdoor he was a part of the obama like these are all
                                         
                                         obama's holdovers and this is exactly what they want
                                         
                                         by wasn't an accidental president he's exactly who they wanted
                                         
    
                                         they didn't want bernie they ran Bernie out twice because he was closer to Trump
                                         
                                         than he was to the Democratic Party.
                                         
                                         And a lot of ways, he was a populist.
                                         
                                         He was weirdly America first.
                                         
                                         He was closed the borders.
                                         
                                         So this is exactly what they want.
                                         
                                         So I wonder how we'd be better off if that was the case,
                                         
                                         if it was Obama people.
                                         
    
                                         Again, it just is.
                                         
                                         This is exactly what they want.
                                         
                                         Was there a question there?
                                         
                                         Yeah like you said so I'm asking you how you got to you like you're gonna take that
                                         
                                         on camera.
                                         
                                         I don't watch like what are you gonna say time sometimes.
                                         
                                         I'm gonna point up at you.
                                         
                                         Yeah okay there it is.
                                         
    
                                         Well no question.
                                         
                                         You said I would feel better if I thought Obama's people were running the show.
                                         
                                         No I said Obama.
                                         
                                         Okay so it is Obama.
                                         
                                         It's Obama it's Obama's. It's Obama's people.
                                         
                                         It's Obama's secretary of state.
                                         
                                         It's all, excuse me, his chief of staff.
                                         
                                         It's Al Gore's chief of staff.
                                         
    
                                         It's all these people.
                                         
                                         They are running the show.
                                         
                                         And this is what we're getting.
                                         
                                         So how do you feel better about that?
                                         
                                         Because it's not Joe Biden.
                                         
                                         Well, do you want Biden running the country or not?
                                         
                                         You can't say, oh, he's not fit to run the country, but I also want him to be leading
                                         
                                         the country.
                                         
    
                                         Which one is it?
                                         
                                         I'm saying that I feel comfortable with Obama running the country if it is if he is calling up Obama being like Barack
                                         
                                         Little over my head right now. What's your advice? I'm fucking okay with that because I think Barack Obama at least can control
                                         
                                         Things that Biden can't so you can't have your cake. You need it too. Do you want Biden running the country or not?
                                         
                                         Well, I don't think he is to? Well, I don't think he is.
                                         
                                         To be fair, I don't think he is at all.
                                         
                                         I think what he's trying to say is no and no
                                         
                                         is what he's trying to say.
                                         
    
                                         Well, let's transition into a different topic
                                         
                                         and let's talk about tanks.
                                         
                                         So the China deployed tanks against protesters.
                                         
                                         What we do know and what we don't.
                                         
                                         This is a newsweek store if you wanna pull
                                         
                                         the viral video of tanks,
                                         
                                         processions on Chinese streets have caused a global stir
                                         
                                         last week with claims across social media alleging that China's military was drafted into
                                         
    
                                         protected banks, following a major financial scandal, post on Twitter, which have received
                                         
                                         hundreds of thousands of engagements alleged that the vehicles were deployed to prevent
                                         
                                         a run on the banks after millions of dollars of worth of deposits were frozen from account
                                         
                                         holders earlier this year
                                         
                                         resow the location mentioned in the videos itself has not been at the center of the banking
                                         
                                         protest either the city is more than a half 500 kilometers from Henan when where demonstrators have
                                         
                                         been widely reported the general public featured in the video certainly does not appear to be
                                         
                                         energized for protest most passers buy our glancing idly
                                         
    
                                         at the military vehicle.
                                         
                                         So, okay, so let's say that's what it is, news week.
                                         
                                         Let's say that's what it is.
                                         
                                         I mean, is this a show?
                                         
                                         Is this like a fourth of July show celebration?
                                         
                                         Let me go see some tanks.
                                         
                                         I mean, how often do tanks just come out?
                                         
                                         Why did the tanks come out?
                                         
    
                                         Are they going shopping? Are they going to in and out to order double cheeseburg? I don't know, do tanks just come out? Why did the tanks come out? Are they going shopping?
                                         
                                         Are they going to in and out to order double cheeseburg?
                                         
                                         I don't know, what are these guys doing?
                                         
                                         Are they just kind of playing video games?
                                         
                                         And hey, let's go show off.
                                         
                                         And let's get some girls and stuff.
                                         
                                         Well, why are tanks part and outside of a band?
                                         
                                         I'm not speculating.
                                         
    
                                         I think that's a safe question to ask.
                                         
                                         I'll just, I think it's intimidation.
                                         
                                         I don't think the Chinese play around with their tanks. You used to see in those when they're out in Tiananmen Square doing some
                                         
                                         damage. Yeah, I don't think anything's accidental there. Even though I feel so bad for these
                                         
                                         Chinese citizens, man. Yeah. The ones, well, first of all, they lock them down if someone
                                         
                                         has a, you know, sniffle, right? They're knocked down a whole city. And then with these
                                         
                                         funds, now this happened, you know, a long way away from where that was. But, man, you
                                         
                                         know, you think about China,
                                         
    
                                         you think how they are under the thumb Chinese citizens and you wonder, man, could they ever
                                         
                                         rise up? Guns are basically illegal in China. I don't think Chinese citizens could ever do anything
                                         
                                         even if they wanted to. This is intimidating seeing this. I think that's just like a general
                                         
                                         military tactic right there. It's just show force. It's letting you know what we can do. It's the same
                                         
                                         thing when you're on target and people are getting squirreling. You fly a F-16 right over their heads
                                         
                                         and you're like, just see, you know, we're here.
                                         
                                         You know, we're here.
                                         
                                         We're here.
                                         
    
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         By the way, that we're saying billionaires
                                         
                                         were trying to take out 58 billion dollars out of China.
                                         
                                         And China's like, now you made your money here.
                                         
                                         You ain't taking it out of here.
                                         
                                         There's a lot of people that want to leave China,
                                         
                                         but they can't be taking their money out with China.
                                         
                                         So, and do you have the story about what happened
                                         
    
                                         with mortgages in China and the banking system?
                                         
                                         Did you see that story or no?
                                         
                                         Is this the one?
                                         
                                         No, this is around high net worth individuals.
                                         
                                         There you go, around 10,000 high net worth individuals
                                         
                                         in China are seeking to leave their country this year
                                         
                                         and could be, okay, it's $48 billion in wealth
                                         
                                         with them according to a new wealth migration report by Helian partners and investment
                                         
    
                                         migration consultancy interesting Hong Kong members rank high yeah there was a
                                         
                                         story about what's going on with mortgages in China they're in there in some
                                         
                                         interesting situation right now by the way I think they just bought like 300
                                         
                                         acres in South Dakota and the Santthus is not having it.
                                         
                                         The Santhus is like sitting, saying,
                                         
                                         hey, what are you doing buying all the foreign land
                                         
                                         of the American?
                                         
                                         He's called the huge problem.
                                         
    
                                         Let me tell you, that concerns me way more than
                                         
                                         what's happening with this China banking situation.
                                         
                                         We covered the story a couple of years ago
                                         
                                         with this ever grand.
                                         
                                         I never even heard of them prior to this,
                                         
                                         but they've over leveraged and they've built up
                                         
                                         crazy amounts of construction and a lot of Chinese
                                         
                                         citizens have bought
                                         
    
                                         Pre-construction and you know crazy debt and there's all this stuff going on in China. I don't really give two shits about Chinese real estate
                                         
                                         I care about American real estate, okay?
                                         
                                         I care about if China is buying up US farmland and the Sanctus is calling out now you're talking to me
                                         
                                         Okay, because I doubt many Americans are waking up
                                         
                                         Most Americans are waking up trying to pay their own fucking rent
                                         
                                         and their own mortgage.
                                         
                                         I gotta be worried about what's going on in China now.
                                         
                                         Let me tell you why.
                                         
    
                                         Don't get too sh-
                                         
                                         I get it from the macro economy. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, for example, takes money from Confucius Institute so they can teach Chinese doctrine indoctrination to students and take their money Harvard's on this.
                                         
                                         Like that to me is way more of an issue when China is taking their money and
                                         
                                         their soft power and bringing it to the United States. Whatever happens to
                                         
                                         China, I get it. There's a real estate situation going on. Figure it out.
                                         
                                         The only reason you do see what's going on with China is the same way when you're buying
                                         
                                         a house, you do comps to see how much houses around your community are selling for.
                                         
                                         And if you're a rifle, a coffee company, and you want to know what your company is worth,
                                         
    
                                         and you go to someone that's doing valuation, they're going to do comps to see what other
                                         
                                         coffee companies your size are selling for with the EBITDA, revenue,
                                         
                                         market, states, countries where you're at, is the same way we have to see what's going
                                         
                                         on in China's real estate market in loans because that's a case study to see what could
                                         
                                         potentially happen to the American economy.
                                         
                                         That's the only reason we would look at what's going on over there because it's a scary
                                         
                                         side.
                                         
                                         They're having a rough situation over there.
                                         
    
                                         China's home buyers are running out of patience with the real estate slump last week
                                         
                                         as spike in reported numbers of home buyers,
                                         
                                         halting mortgage payments prompted many banks
                                         
                                         to announce their low exposure to such loans across,
                                         
                                         banks covered by Goldman Sachs,
                                         
                                         average exposure to property, including mortgages
                                         
                                         was just 17% if more home buyers refuse to pay their mortgages,
                                         
                                         the poor sentiment would reduce demand
                                         
    
                                         and theoretically prices in a vicious cycle.
                                         
                                         So these are the reasons why you do pay attention to some of this stuff.
                                         
                                         But go back to your point.
                                         
                                         You're right.
                                         
                                         Why are these guys buying up all this land?
                                         
                                         Okay.
                                         
                                         By the way, one of the places they bought, they bought 300 acres of land in North Dakota
                                         
                                         20 minutes from a military base.
                                         
    
                                         What are you doing?
                                         
                                         Like, you have to ask a motive.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         Yeah, why?
                                         
                                         Yeah, why you buying a Neuromilitary base?
                                         
                                         20 minutes away.
                                         
                                         Bill Gates buy about Crapton Atlantic.
                                         
                                         Well, he's the biggest landowner for foreign land
                                         
    
                                         in the world.
                                         
                                         By the way, I'm way more okay with Bill Gates owning land
                                         
                                         in the United States than China, the CCP.
                                         
                                         I mean, what are we talking about here?
                                         
                                         When you compare this to the article
                                         
                                         that just came out about their interfering
                                         
                                         with nuclear weapons
                                         
                                         and how they were installing listening devices,
                                         
    
                                         the question isn't why are they doing it.
                                         
                                         The question is why are we allowing it to happen?
                                         
                                         Why is the government not stepping in and saying,
                                         
                                         no, not a fucking chance we're gonna live?
                                         
                                         Like this is absurd.
                                         
                                         20 miles from an airbase.
                                         
                                         Of course they're gonna install listening devices.
                                         
                                         The question isn't why it's why is it happening?
                                         
    
                                         Or excuse me, why are we letting it happen?
                                         
                                         I guess the question would be, what is the law against the country buying land in another country?
                                         
                                         What is the law? DeSantis says he wants to make it a state law in Florida. So so meaning if there
                                         
                                         isn't a law of doing that well then you need to create a law years ago when Trump was uncomfortable
                                         
                                         with Huawei's daughter that was going around talking to Iran and she was in Canada
                                         
                                         I don't know if you remember if you remember remember that whole scandal and
                                         
                                         Huawei was a number two or number three phone company in the world. What did he say?
                                         
                                         He said you can't do Huawei in US and why we took a massive hit why we was coming up in America
                                         
    
                                         Why we took a massive hit if if this is what is going on?
                                         
                                         I always took a massive hit. If this is what is going on,
                                         
                                         the president has the ability to sanction anyone
                                         
                                         from China buying agricultural or land in the US.
                                         
                                         They could do that.
                                         
                                         They can add those sanctions on Chinese investors.
                                         
                                         That is simply one announcement for him to make.
                                         
                                         Well, you hit the nail on the head.
                                         
    
                                         Chinese investors, they're not coming out and saying,
                                         
                                         hi, I'm here on behalf of the CCP
                                         
                                         and I'd like to buy some farm land.
                                         
                                         It's some guy named whatever.
                                         
                                         Or TikTok. Or. Yeah. That's some guy named whatever or tick tock or.
                                         
                                         Yeah. That's a whole nother situation was like that.
                                         
                                         But it could be just a Chinese investor.
                                         
                                         There's nothing illegal about in guy who's showing up and buying some property.
                                         
    
                                         But you know that if a guy shows up with a couple billion bucks from China,
                                         
                                         it's like, who's really pulling the strings there?
                                         
                                         Right. That's the only question.
                                         
                                         There's nothing illegal about a guy buying property
                                         
                                         or corporation buying property.
                                         
                                         It's just how far removed are it from the CCP?
                                         
                                         Well, my assumption is not far.
                                         
                                         China has no problem, you know,
                                         
    
                                         it's saying every day who their enemy is, it's us, right?
                                         
                                         For some reason, we just can't say that in an admitted.
                                         
                                         So I think we just, we should assume anything they do
                                         
                                         is to harm us.
                                         
                                         If they're coming here to buy five acres of farm land, you know, hang out, plant 5G, whatever,
                                         
                                         they're out to get us.
                                         
                                         We've been talking about China for a few years now, at least on the podcast right now.
                                         
                                         Do you think we haven't realized what China is about to do?
                                         
    
                                         Like is there still people in the government?
                                         
                                         Is the citizens of the United States still unaware of what China is doing?
                                         
                                         I feel like it's out there, right?
                                         
                                         It's probably, it's out there, but a lot of people are like,
                                         
                                         oh, get over it, kind of just turn over.
                                         
                                         Get over what?
                                         
                                         You know, it's just turned a blind eye, I think, because it's easier to not care
                                         
                                         than it is to care.
                                         
    
                                         And you think the fact that we're now, the Russia, you know,
                                         
                                         typically our largest adversary is now in the war in Ukraine,
                                         
                                         that's kind of taking the attention away from what China is really doing.
                                         
                                         Most likely, yeah.
                                         
                                         And then China, the Chinese presence in Afghanistan after absolute failure of pulling out.
                                         
                                         I mean, there's, they're making smarter plays, you know, and then you have to look at the
                                         
                                         Taiwan situation.
                                         
                                         And, just, why, what's the Chinese presence in Afghanistan now?
                                         
    
                                         There, I mean, there you have a large C.I. threat.
                                         
                                         They're like counterintelligence.
                                         
                                         So I mean, I'm sure that they're directly working with the Al-Qaeda.
                                         
                                         I mean, that they're going to own Afghanistan, I'd say eventually, because they're going
                                         
                                         to do it more diplomatically, rather than militarily.
                                         
                                         Like, the Russians tried and we tried and we failed at.
                                         
                                         So.
                                         
                                         They'll pump money into it.
                                         
    
                                         That's how they do it.
                                         
                                         Yeah, but you've served in Afghanistan.
                                         
                                         At any point, did you be like, why the hell are we here? We, didn't we learn from history that Russia couldn't,
                                         
                                         you know, take over Afghanistan?
                                         
                                         We've been here for 20 freaking years.
                                         
                                         Taliban isn't going anywhere.
                                         
                                         There's any part of you that's like, yeah,
                                         
                                         why the fuck are we even here?
                                         
    
                                         Is there any part of you that's happy
                                         
                                         you got the hell out of there?
                                         
                                         Or we got the hell out of there?
                                         
                                         Even though it was a disaster on the way we left,
                                         
                                         at least we got out.
                                         
                                         Yeah, I think like it's just like a relationship.
                                         
                                         You have to be all in or all out.
                                         
                                         And yeah, leaving Afghanistan would have been fine
                                         
    
                                         if we would have had a phased in plan and stuck to it
                                         
                                         and we did have that, but then they just pulled out
                                         
                                         and that's a whole different conversation.
                                         
                                         But no, I think that the reasons there early in Afghanistan,
                                         
                                         we were hyper successful in our mission
                                         
                                         and then we kind of got lazy and complacent
                                         
                                         and we sat around and tried to build bases. And then it just became an occupation.
                                         
                                         And we kind of suck at occupations because it's just that you're slowly bleeding the US
                                         
    
                                         economy and having an American's die for, for really no, no specific reason and campaign
                                         
                                         to, to, to win. Like we fight to win. We don't fight to stay. So yeah.
                                         
                                         Thank God we have Elon Musk's sex life.
                                         
                                         You know, he did his off these crazy topics.
                                         
                                         Do you think he did it?
                                         
                                         Dangerous.
                                         
                                         Kind of.
                                         
                                         You know, the other day I saw a, I don't watch golf, but I saw an interview that was very,
                                         
    
                                         I'm trying to find this to show to you to answer your question, where the reporter asks this golfer, he says, hey,
                                         
                                         the journey you have been told Saudi Arabia is on, all this other stuff that's going on,
                                         
                                         how do you feel about the women oppressed, the migrant groups having the rights violated,
                                         
                                         the LGBTQ individuals criminalized, the families of the 81 men executed and marched, he's
                                         
                                         just going, okay, with all this stuff
                                         
                                         that he's talking about.
                                         
                                         And the guy responds back, and I think it's Graham McDowell.
                                         
                                         I wish I could find exactly what he says
                                         
    
                                         to share it with you.
                                         
                                         I loved his response.
                                         
                                         He says, you know, it's all interesting
                                         
                                         when it comes onto politics.
                                         
                                         He says, listen, we're golfers.
                                         
                                         We're not politicians.
                                         
                                         But he says, I'm so curious.
                                         
                                         Why do you guys target Saudi Arabia, but none of you guys are saying anything about what's
                                         
    
                                         going on in Taiwan and what China is doing in Taiwan.
                                         
                                         Why don't you?
                                         
                                         You see the report is like poem, silent.
                                         
                                         So, so if you're gonna come after me for Saudi, why don't you go after what's going on
                                         
                                         with you know, Taiwan?
                                         
                                         Same thing in the NBA, right?
                                         
                                         You get those guys. They't ever talk about it.
                                         
                                         They'll talk about other social issues.
                                         
    
                                         But they take $500 million per year from China, right?
                                         
                                         So it's a double standard all the way.
                                         
                                         So you're bringing up the China deal.
                                         
                                         And you can always tell who is uncomfortable
                                         
                                         to call out China.
                                         
                                         You better believe there's some kind of a business stealing going on over there. And you know, strategically, you got to give credit
                                         
                                         to these guys because they're going and buying up people left and right in
                                         
                                         America that are for sale strategically. This doesn't mean you have to like it.
                                         
    
                                         This doesn't mean it's the right thing to do. Your people are for sale. We're
                                         
                                         buying them. Good luck trying to buy our people. Okay. Good luck buying our people in China
                                         
                                         Come on try buying our people see what happens, but your people are for sale.
                                         
                                         I'll never forget when China tried to buy you. You remember that? I do. As funny as it sounds.
                                         
                                         I'm not even bullshitting right now. They all remember what we were at when the email came in.
                                         
                                         We were in Dallas, Texas and at a set office. At least I remember, call that. So creatures.
                                         
                                         They're gonna creep you a zoom we ever did. They offered you, I remember, call that. So creepy is, there's the creepy as Zoom we ever did.
                                         
                                         They offered you, I think, a quarter million dollars to speak.
                                         
    
                                         I have the email till today.
                                         
                                         And then another quarter million dollars
                                         
                                         that you're gonna donate.
                                         
                                         Something, I don't know, do you wanna tell the story?
                                         
                                         Yeah, he says, look, we wanna fly you out to China
                                         
                                         because this charity, we're willing to give you $600,000
                                         
                                         of which we want you to present a $300,000 check
                                         
                                         out of your bank account to us,
                                         
    
                                         but you're gonna net $300,000 check out of your bank account to us, but you're going to net $300,000.
                                         
                                         We're going to treat you royally.
                                         
                                         And Emo came out, Maru and I in a couple of our guys got on the Zoom with them.
                                         
                                         It was a PR firm out of New York with folks in China to give $600,000.
                                         
                                         And I'm like, I just wanted to hear them out to see like are people actually saying yes to this and
                                         
                                         And then what is your outcome?
                                         
                                         Is it later on in case because we're loud against you for you to come back and say well
                                         
                                         He came to China give us $300,000 to charity so he was a supporter and sure all this other stuff
                                         
    
                                         So you know, it's but you gotta realize so if somebody to somebody of 600,000 dollars a lot of money to somebody
                                         
                                         I'm like, oh, you know, I'm gonna go out there and take a look at this.
                                         
                                         But man, a lot of Americans are being sold to China.
                                         
                                         A lot of Americans are being sold to China.
                                         
                                         They come back with a counter offer every time you told them, no.
                                         
                                         No, it was a very awkward zoom and the man was very,
                                         
                                         there was nothing pleasant.
                                         
                                         The two publics were very pleasant.
                                         
    
                                         There was nothing pleasant about the guy.
                                         
                                         It was very uncomfortable. Who was nothing pleasant about the guy. It was very uncomfortable.
                                         
                                         Who was the guy?
                                         
                                         Do you recall?
                                         
                                         We have the name of the email, but the guy was very disturbing.
                                         
                                         And you can understand the question.
                                         
                                         Think about that PR agency.
                                         
                                         You answered your own question.
                                         
    
                                         Do people really take the money?
                                         
                                         That's what they're doing.
                                         
                                         An American PR agency representing China interests,
                                         
                                         trying to suck in influencers and wealthy people here in the US
                                         
                                         and they can put them in their back pocket for when they're needed. Listen, I mean we
                                         
                                         criticize prostitutes in America a lot and they chose to live a life for changing whatever they're
                                         
                                         doing, you know, sex for money, but there's the real prostitutes are in Hollywood and sports that
                                         
                                         are taking bigger checks
                                         
    
                                         And they're selling their souls and their country to any country that's willing to pay the money
                                         
                                         So you know, we have to kind of if you're really gonna talk about prostitutes
                                         
                                         You got to really go to the point where these guys are getting paid some real money to sell their country
                                         
                                         So the country other people that yeah that to me
                                         
                                         That's that's I mean mean that's just you know
                                         
                                         Do you ever see a time where there are people like that can be potentially tried for treasonous activity?
                                         
                                         I don't think that'll happen because there's ways to
                                         
                                         Cover through it but but just think just think about it from this standpoint
                                         
    
                                         To be bought for the rest of your life. Mm-hmm. dollar amount is. You bet. Like look what happened with the devil. Look what happened with what's his name,
                                         
                                         who just stepped down from who's the guy that just stepped down the big wrestling CEO.
                                         
                                         Oh, they forced this guy to step down. Okay. What did he do behind closed doors? He bought
                                         
                                         most of the number. It's like 14.28 million. I don't know what the numbers. It's
                                         
                                         something. How many people he bought out and how many people he did that?
                                         
                                         Okay, so what's the solution?
                                         
                                         You know, what's the alternative?
                                         
                                         Do you know what the real alternative is?
                                         
    
                                         Hey, if you don't come in, I'm gonna tell the world about it.
                                         
                                         Here's the reality.
                                         
                                         If anybody ever threatens you that they're gonna tell you
                                         
                                         about you hooked up with them, you should tell them,
                                         
                                         look, you're eventually gonna tell them.
                                         
                                         So if you're gonna ruin my marriage now,
                                         
                                         or three years from now, just go ruin it.
                                         
                                         I'm not giving you shit.
                                         
    
                                         Yeah, because you're going to tell the world.
                                         
                                         So you know what, matter of fact,
                                         
                                         let's do three-way with my wife.
                                         
                                         Go ahead.
                                         
                                         Tepe, I just want to tell you I screwed up.
                                         
                                         Here's a lady.
                                         
                                         I was looking at three-way.
                                         
                                         Totally different.
                                         
    
                                         And by the way, I'm telling you this,
                                         
                                         I'm telling you you're a freer man to take that approach than to take this approach
                                         
                                         Every single month you have to be waiting for somebody so I'm gonna bring this out and take it public and tell you tell this
                                         
                                         Tell it. It seems like kind of a weak way for Vince to go down doesn't it a little bit
                                         
                                         I mean the guy was such a hard charger. He's the face of wrestling
                                         
                                         No one's been more important in the sport than him. Yeah, what's the story?
                                         
                                         He was having the board is basically forced in him.
                                         
                                         Because he was paying women under the table
                                         
    
                                         because he was having sex with them.
                                         
                                         So that's what the relationships covering things up.
                                         
                                         So was he paying out of his own money
                                         
                                         or the company's money?
                                         
                                         No, I think he was paying his own money.
                                         
                                         So what's the problem here exactly?
                                         
                                         What time to go?
                                         
                                         Extra marital affairs.
                                         
    
                                         It's a bad look.
                                         
                                         It's bad PR.
                                         
                                         I mean, his wife, you know, ran for Senate in Connecticut.
                                         
                                         I mean, she had a high profile herself.
                                         
                                         She had a big role in WWE too.
                                         
                                         So maybe they all just collectively felt it's time to move on.
                                         
                                         Let's step in and trouble.
                                         
                                         And by the way, I respect that.
                                         
    
                                         And that's their business.
                                         
                                         If they're having the conversations right now and the wife is saying,
                                         
                                         that how does it matter with you?
                                         
                                         You know, I understand all this other stuff.
                                         
                                         What are you doing? And they're going to have their whatever and they're going to say, you know what, this is what we're going to, we amounted with you. You know, I understand all this other stuff. What are you doing?
                                         
                                         And they're going to have their whatever,
                                         
                                         and they're going to say, you know what?
                                         
                                         This is what we're not.
                                         
    
                                         We're out of the getting the divorce,
                                         
                                         or you got to step away.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         Because this is embarrassing the entire family.
                                         
                                         Great.
                                         
                                         Make the decisions.
                                         
                                         But you think it was a family decision, a wipe decision.
                                         
                                         I don't know what the job you do.
                                         
    
                                         I don't know what the order of the director is.
                                         
                                         What decision it is.
                                         
                                         All I'm saying is, if somebody comes and does this to you,
                                         
                                         they own you for the rest of your life.
                                         
                                         That's not the way to go out if you're that guy.
                                         
                                         I don't know why.
                                         
                                         No, you need a big tribute.
                                         
                                         By the way, can I tell you, and this is the truth.
                                         
    
                                         Now, this isn't quite as big as your offer from China, Pat.
                                         
                                         I got an email yesterday within offer.
                                         
                                         Literally, this guy emails me and says, hey, I saw your hosting reel on YouTube.
                                         
                                         Would you be interested in some non-sexual naked hosting?
                                         
                                         So I've first of all, that's a compliment.
                                         
                                         You should be like, babe, working out of some, yeah.
                                         
                                         People still want me naked.
                                         
                                         You know, maybe I will have to reconsider.
                                         
    
                                         And when do you start, when do you start
                                         
                                         in your appulations for having a husband
                                         
                                         where they want to pay him to be naked?
                                         
                                         What a bold look.
                                         
                                         What's the comment there?
                                         
                                         I'll follow up with it today.
                                         
                                         I'll show you.
                                         
                                         I bet you will, sir, for the right price.
                                         
    
                                         Well, now that you guys have told me, maybe I will,
                                         
                                         but you don't want, no, I don't think I'm that guy,
                                         
                                         the naked part.
                                         
                                         No, thank you.
                                         
                                         You are that kind of way.
                                         
                                         You want to, you want to,
                                         
                                         have I told you to porn story about what happened
                                         
                                         when I was working at Chatsworth?
                                         
    
                                         Have I told this girl?
                                         
                                         Go for it.
                                         
                                         Okay, crazy story.
                                         
                                         So I'm working at Chatsworth.
                                         
                                         This guy comes up to me with another girl.
                                         
                                         Chatsworth was at the time, 80% of porn in America was being produced in chat's worth.
                                         
                                         So that's where I lived. I wouldn't tell they banned condoms or made condoms mandatory.
                                         
                                         We're a little factoid. Yeah, by the way, all of a sudden disappeared.
                                         
    
                                         Yeah, that's why. And I used to recruit a lot of these guys and you would go and
                                         
                                         get all of a sudden sit down with a bunch of porn stars. And you know, recruit for insurance.
                                         
                                         Let's be clear. Not in that business. But I'm at chat's worth a bunch of porn stars. I mean, recruit for insurance. Let's be clear. Not in that business. I was not in that business, but I'm at Chatsworth
                                         
                                         and this couple comes out.
                                         
                                         And by the way, you can obviously tell they're in the business.
                                         
                                         Very obvious.
                                         
                                         And they look at me and they say,
                                         
                                         so how much money do you make here?
                                         
    
                                         I'm the top sales guy.
                                         
                                         I'm the T.O. guy.
                                         
                                         They come to me to close.
                                         
                                         I make very good money.
                                         
                                         It says, oh yeah, what is that?
                                         
                                         I say, I make $3,500 a month.
                                         
                                         It's like, oh, this is a valley.
                                         
                                         And I'm like, you show me a check of $3,500 a month. Like, ooh. This is a valley. And I'm like, you show me a jacket,
                                         
    
                                         $3,500, I got my fucking job today.
                                         
                                         And he says, how would you like to make that a weekend?
                                         
                                         I'm like, damn, that's something.
                                         
                                         Well, good money, $3,500 a weekend.
                                         
                                         How old are you, by the way?
                                         
                                         Did I'm 20?
                                         
                                         I just got out the arm.
                                         
                                         I'm like, my testosterone levels are like 1,400.
                                         
    
                                         I'm ready to break my D.O.
                                         
                                         Did I'm like, you know, and he says, hey, you know,
                                         
                                         for, you know, a few come, you know,
                                         
                                         here's all you need to do.
                                         
                                         Are you comfortable in front of camera?
                                         
                                         I'm not shy at all.
                                         
                                         I mean, I can be in front.
                                         
                                         So I'm thinking it's like, hey, maybe these guys
                                         
    
                                         are in Hollywood and they're seeing, you know,
                                         
                                         we need a Middle Eastern guy to play some kind of a role.
                                         
                                         And I say, yeah, are you comfortable being naked?
                                         
                                         I said, we just took a different turn here.
                                         
                                         It's a lot of fun. Let me tell you, you know, pouring in the street chat's
                                         
                                         word, you're going to make $3,500 a week and you'll have the time of your life,
                                         
                                         the parties we put together, they're insane, all this stuff. And I'm sitting
                                         
                                         I'm looking at this guy. And for like five seconds, I'm just looking at
                                         
    
                                         him. I'm like, let's play this alone. So, okay, you go this route. What's life
                                         
                                         look like 20 years from now? And I came back, I'm like, yeah, no,
                                         
                                         but I went home and I pulled the biggest prank on my dad. I got my dad knows this, my dad knows this till today.
                                         
                                         I said, I'm gonna pull it on him and I'm gonna do,
                                         
                                         I'm gonna keep it for a week.
                                         
                                         I said, Dad, I got, I got, I got to talk to you.
                                         
                                         This is what's that, I said, Dad,
                                         
                                         we're gonna make some money.
                                         
    
                                         We're gonna make some money.
                                         
                                         So what do you mean?
                                         
                                         I said, honestly, you ain't never gonna work
                                         
                                         at this $0.99 store in Englewood ever again.
                                         
                                         He was a cashier.
                                         
                                         I said, what are we doing?
                                         
                                         I said, Dad, I think Hollywood finally found me.
                                         
                                         And he said, really?
                                         
    
                                         I said, yep.
                                         
                                         I said, except it's a different kind of Hollywood.
                                         
                                         What do you mean?
                                         
                                         I said, I have to be naked.
                                         
                                         It's gonna be porn.
                                         
                                         He says, you're gonna do porn?
                                         
                                         I said, yeah.
                                         
                                         He says, if you ever do porn, you will never,
                                         
    
                                         ever be my son. You cannot do porn. I said, Dad, he says if you ever do porn, you will never ever be my son. You cannot do porn. I said that
                                         
                                         Just think about all your friends watching porn saying that's Gabriel son
                                         
                                         Would that not be a proud moment for you?
                                         
                                         He was so furious. So what do I do? I leave him hanging. I leave the house nice
                                         
                                         You know for one week this guy thought I was gonna go into this thing
                                         
                                         I believe you at the time. Huh? Did you write a business plan at the time? No. Did you take your own advice?
                                         
                                         No way.
                                         
                                         That's a fork in the road, though, man.
                                         
    
                                         If you go down that direction.
                                         
                                         No, but you're rounded.
                                         
                                         Every money chance for you in LA, you know you're around.
                                         
                                         Every, we would have the, we had the best club for porn stars
                                         
                                         because we had the only outdoor swimming pool.
                                         
                                         So these guys would only want, and in Balli's was chance worth.
                                         
                                         And they would say, hey, what time do you guys close it?
                                         
                                         I'm like at 12 o'clock, you might have
                                         
    
                                         to stay two more hours.
                                         
                                         And I would ask you, just gonna be out there hanging out.
                                         
                                         If you want a party with us, I'm like, listen,
                                         
                                         I'll give you 30 minutes.
                                         
                                         It took, okay, sounds cool.
                                         
                                         And, you know, boom, people would show up
                                         
                                         and then they would leave, but Chatsworth
                                         
                                         was the mecca of porn at the time.
                                         
    
                                         This is 99 peak.
                                         
                                         P-B-D.
                                         
                                         Well, Valley was always the cap.
                                         
                                         Is it no longer?
                                         
                                         It's no, I think, when I was living in North Hollywood
                                         
                                         They did a mandatory
                                         
                                         Condom thing for porn actresses and actors and that like killed all of it
                                         
                                         I forget I think it moved states or something
                                         
    
                                         But I'm just glad at that age 22 no one offered me that
                                         
                                         Our country
                                         
                                         What would your name be though?
                                         
                                         You would have a military name, Rob.
                                         
                                         Would it be like, oh jeez.
                                         
                                         Sergeant slaughter right there.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         Don't.
                                         
    
                                         Sorry, get slaughtered.
                                         
                                         You would have been the Iranian sheep
                                         
                                         that came out of your ear and was getting live.
                                         
                                         But I do have a serious question for you.
                                         
                                         Number one, if you know anything about Gabriel
                                         
                                         but David, he would have disowned you.
                                         
                                         Straight up, you were dead to me.
                                         
                                         But you've said this multiple times
                                         
    
                                         that you have the ability to look deep into the future.
                                         
                                         You talk about 20 years from now, 20 years from now,
                                         
                                         longevity, not having myopic thinking.
                                         
                                         You know, these days, that was pre-internet days, right?
                                         
                                         I mean, that was early 2000s.
                                         
                                         I mean, the internet wasn't what it is now, social media now.
                                         
                                         Now, I mean, I can't even tell you how many girls
                                         
                                         I run into that do only fans.
                                         
    
                                         And like the internet lasts forever.
                                         
                                         I don't know how many guys are getting approached
                                         
                                         for only fans or porn these days other than Tom.
                                         
                                         I mean, I encourage you to look into that.
                                         
                                         That sounds like some good money.
                                         
                                         But the ability to think long term
                                         
                                         and not for the quick buck.
                                         
                                         How do you grapple with that?
                                         
    
                                         What's your advice for young people out there these days?
                                         
                                         Because there's a lot of easy money out there,
                                         
                                         especially for women right now.
                                         
                                         It's not easy.
                                         
                                         I mean, I'm not gonna, there is no way of doing it.
                                         
                                         That's, look, here's the craziest thing about life.
                                         
                                         Here's the craziest thing about life.
                                         
                                         We're all being tested the entire time.
                                         
    
                                         Let me tell you, man, this is a one big-ass experiment
                                         
                                         of what you're really all about.
                                         
                                         And you're gonna fall all about and you're going
                                         
                                         to fall many times and you're going to learn a lot about yourself.
                                         
                                         And your goal is to keep trying to make better choices.
                                         
                                         It's not easy.
                                         
                                         So I can't sit there and play, you know, hey, let me tell you, judge, you know, I'm not
                                         
                                         going to be doing that.
                                         
    
                                         It's your choice.
                                         
                                         And everyone's in different types of situations.
                                         
                                         I just will tell you, you know, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's very, like, even right now, yesterday we're talking about politics. I said, do you realize
                                         
                                         the right candidate with the right policies that we need an America today would never get elected?
                                         
                                         Let me say that one more time. The right candidate with the right policies that America desperately
                                         
                                         needs today would never win an election today. Why? Because the right policies would be folks, guess what? If you vote for me, we're cutting back on 50%
                                         
                                         of entitlement programs. We're cutting back on unemployment checks. We're gonna go
                                         
                                         from six months to 90 days to 30 days. We're cutting back on all the spending
                                         
    
                                         that we're doing. We're cutting back on a military spending that we're doing.
                                         
                                         We're gonna put it more in cyber and bio warfare and being prepared for that.
                                         
                                         Because right now wars are not going to be done up there.
                                         
                                         It's going to be more cyber.
                                         
                                         What Russia is doing.
                                         
                                         We're going to, you're going to have to get to work the next eight, 12 years,
                                         
                                         because we all have a job to do.
                                         
                                         No one would vote for you, even though those are the right policies.
                                         
    
                                         Nobody would vote for you, right?
                                         
                                         Okay.
                                         
                                         So how many presidents become presidents
                                         
                                         and they make policies that benefit you 30 years from?
                                         
                                         Nobody, nobody does that.
                                         
                                         Everybody becomes a president, just like the difference
                                         
                                         between a founder and a CEO,
                                         
                                         a founder started that company, it's emotional.
                                         
    
                                         A CEO is just trying to get the quarterly numbers
                                         
                                         to be hit, so it's a very different mindset.
                                         
                                         A lot of today's presidents are just trying
                                         
                                         to hit their quarterly numbers.
                                         
                                         That's all they're thinking about.
                                         
                                         So go back to your question on what you're saying,
                                         
                                         how you tie these two together.
                                         
                                         And life is a test of making short-term decisions
                                         
    
                                         versus long-term.
                                         
                                         And it ain't easy, bro.
                                         
                                         When I think a lot of it, too, you have to be comfortable
                                         
                                         with your decisions.
                                         
                                         And if you're comfortable doing only fans
                                         
                                         or whatever pornography, I say, I do you.
                                         
                                         It's your body, your choice.
                                         
                                         That's the way I look at it.
                                         
    
                                         But we come back to people when they they take control of your life
                                         
                                         And I look back at decisions that I made that didn't I didn't know what the third and fourth order effects were gonna be
                                         
                                         But I got proposed a lot of
                                         
                                         Decent deals back in the day when I started YouTube it was multi-channel networks
                                         
                                         It's when those are really popular they were taking essentially 12 digital creators putting them under one marketing umbrella
                                         
                                         Cross-pollinating audiences and getting brand deals and then pushing them through each different person.
                                         
                                         And I took a look at it and some of it was like hyper hyper, like I could have made a lot
                                         
                                         of money, advantageous for me.
                                         
    
                                         And then some of the other stuff I started to see was all of a sudden the parent company
                                         
                                         kind of started to tell all these guys what they can and can't do.
                                         
                                         And I'm an irreverent guy that likes firearms and I knew that would always be an implication
                                         
                                         with working with these other people. And so I never did it. I said, screw it.
                                         
                                         You know what? My business partner at the time, Jared Taylor said, Hey, let's, let's start some
                                         
                                         shirts. And all we did was go, I'm going to put a design in the shirt that I want to wear every day
                                         
                                         and a really comfy t shirt that it feels good. And we went with what we wanted, how we wanted it
                                         
                                         to do it. And it took longer. But the consequence of those decisions were now, when I'm 35 years old, I own my ideas.
                                         
    
                                         And the biggest, the worst decision I ever could have made in business was allowing someone
                                         
                                         else to own my intellectual property.
                                         
                                         Because I know that's what I am.
                                         
                                         I'm a visionary.
                                         
                                         I'm a really creative guy.
                                         
                                         I'm not the best in operations, but guess you can hire those people in and all that.
                                         
                                         So it kind of goes back to when you're talking about the one through 10 analogy is focusing
                                         
                                         on your core competencies.
                                         
    
                                         I'm a creator, I'm a visionary, and I want to own that.
                                         
                                         And I never let anybody else own me.
                                         
                                         And that's, I think, what is a testament to my success.
                                         
                                         I kind of unknowingly did that, but then I started to realize it more and more as my life
                                         
                                         went on.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         Power and respect to you guys, man.
                                         
                                         Much respect to you guys for what you did
                                         
    
                                         and to be where you're at right now.
                                         
                                         You guys are just getting started.
                                         
                                         I mean, right now, 10,000 veterans, that means
                                         
                                         if you got 10,000 veterans working for you,
                                         
                                         you got 20,000 employees, you guys are on track to get there.
                                         
                                         It's a great success story in America
                                         
                                         and you guys are not slowing down.
                                         
                                         Do you know, to answer your question for you,
                                         
    
                                         so for me, you know, I'm all about finding ways
                                         
                                         to drive you or me better, right?
                                         
                                         It's like, how do you have it?
                                         
                                         Because when you run a sales organization
                                         
                                         with 27,000 insurance agents, you have to learn,
                                         
                                         this person is going to be driven in a different way
                                         
                                         than this person, then this person, then me, then you.
                                         
                                         We're all different, right?
                                         
    
                                         OK.
                                         
                                         Do you know what is the highest driver?
                                         
                                         You know what's the highest driver?
                                         
                                         The highest driver, my experience has been purely pride. Pride in what? Pride in
                                         
                                         your last name, okay, which has passed down from your parents. Pride in your nationality, your heritage,
                                         
                                         you have to have pride in that, that's your blood, you have me, whatever people say, you still have
                                         
                                         to have pride in that. Pride in your industry, what you do as a trade, you have to have a lot of pride
                                         
                                         in your trade, whatever, I don't care what you do. You gotta have pride in your trade
                                         
    
                                         and constantly get better. Pride in your community, pride in your family, pride in your country.
                                         
                                         You can, everything is about representation. This, there's only one of this in the world,
                                         
                                         okay? And that's you. How you represent yourself to the world,
                                         
                                         eventually one day they're gonna sit there and say,
                                         
                                         I tell you man, I just this math guy man,
                                         
                                         who has a freaking badass.
                                         
                                         Yeah, look, you know, respect, salute.
                                         
                                         This Adam guy, the way he lived his life,
                                         
    
                                         now you know, a lot of times at the beginning,
                                         
                                         but I gotta tell you man, this guy's salute.
                                         
                                         That is worth making the long-term decisions.
                                         
                                         Because all this short-term stuff that we do
                                         
                                         It's gonna come it's gonna go by but it's gonna stick around with you for very very long time
                                         
                                         Anybody can take the short-term victories. It ain't hard to do only a few to can take the long-term victories And I'm telling you right now history favors those who take the long-term victories
                                         
                                         But it's just gonna take 20 to 40 years for people to realize who the real players in the game were not two years
                                         
                                         Not five years now 10 years Adam 20 to 40 years. I saw you know
                                         
    
                                         I got a weird call this week from one from
                                         
                                         Somebody in the industry
                                         
                                         Which industry not not not porn no that was retired
                                         
                                         We know it's not how I'm like you don't get what I thought and it was gone
                                         
                                         You're still thinking about it. They're contemplating.
                                         
                                         But this guy's with my offer.
                                         
                                         And this guy calls it.
                                         
                                         You know what he says?
                                         
    
                                         He says, hey, you know, we're part of the same class.
                                         
                                         It's not, I remember.
                                         
                                         He says, so, you know, I've done very well himself.
                                         
                                         He says, well, you took it to all different level.
                                         
                                         I said, I think you killed it yourself as well.
                                         
                                         You know, I call them the 32-year-old Brady.
                                         
                                         So you got a 10-year run in you. And he says to me, he says, everything you said, everybody behind closed doors would
                                         
                                         say, yeah, he's not going to do it. Yeah, he's not going to do it. And for a long time,
                                         
    
                                         we all believed it. He says, but it took 13 years for us to realize that everything you
                                         
                                         said he was going to do. You just, you got to be patient. You know, markets are going to
                                         
                                         say a lot of stuff. But if you're running for 10 to 20 years,
                                         
                                         you got nothing to worry about.
                                         
                                         You have a lot to lose sleep over if it's a three month run.
                                         
                                         You have a lot to lose sleep over.
                                         
                                         It's a six month run.
                                         
                                         But if you're running 10 to 20, you're gonna be fine.
                                         
    
                                         You know, it's interesting about that
                                         
                                         because I've been asked a lot over the years
                                         
                                         about how to prep for a selection, right?
                                         
                                         And there's mental and physical,
                                         
                                         but the foundation of everything that I believe in
                                         
                                         when you're going through any selection,
                                         
                                         especially in the military, is a 70 day course
                                         
                                         will look at Ranger School.
                                         
    
                                         70 days of being uncomfortable, hungry, tired, mad.
                                         
                                         Guess what, you get to wear a Ranger tab
                                         
                                         for the rest of your life's sick.
                                         
                                         And I never got why people, some people quit
                                         
                                         like halfway, three-fourths of the way through Ranger School. I never got why people, some people quit like halfway, three
                                         
                                         fours of the way through Ranger School. I'm sitting there going, man, you're three weeks away from
                                         
                                         your life's largest accomplishment, something that you can hang your hat on something,
                                         
                                         probably down the road when you have children, that when they, when dad shows their little son,
                                         
    
                                         a Ranger tab, the inspiration that your child will go, man, my dad did something hard.
                                         
                                         And that's what people have to do in this life.
                                         
                                         And so often, especially with technology and social media,
                                         
                                         all of our behavioral patterns are becoming so impulsive,
                                         
                                         immediate gratification.
                                         
                                         And put the fucking phone down, go feel the grass,
                                         
                                         like actually dedicate your life with purpose to something,
                                         
                                         and follow through with it.
                                         
    
                                         I mean, I do weird exercises every day.
                                         
                                         I tore my bicep about two years ago
                                         
                                         and it took a while to rehab almost a year
                                         
                                         and I said, well, I really took for granted
                                         
                                         using both arms as silly as that sounds.
                                         
                                         So I bought a drum set and every day,
                                         
                                         I pay 20, I play 20 minutes of drums.
                                         
                                         And at first, I could barely do anything.
                                         
    
                                         Two years down the road, I feel like I could play a venue.
                                         
                                         And it's just weird tasks like that
                                         
                                         where I challenge myself mentally
                                         
                                         and I wish more people just wrote it on their little pad.
                                         
                                         It doesn't have to be crazy.
                                         
                                         Like Spanish is one of them,
                                         
                                         but I'm a little lazy on that one.
                                         
                                         I'm gonna get better.
                                         
    
                                         No, it goes to show, think about it.
                                         
                                         You go through three quarters of Ranger School
                                         
                                         and people still drop out.
                                         
                                         That just goes to show how smart the people
                                         
                                         that set up the program are
                                         
                                         because it really does take that extra effort to make it all the way through or else everybody would be trying to do it.
                                         
                                         You know, when we were in DC, you know, I think one of the things that this country lacks
                                         
                                         right now more than anything, especially unfortunately young people is perspective, we went to
                                         
    
                                         the Holocaust Museum.
                                         
                                         Have you guys been to it in DC?
                                         
                                         Yes.
                                         
                                         Unbelievable, right?
                                         
                                         I mean, how can you go to the Holocaust Museum and then have a complaint about anything in your life?
                                         
                                         You know, I was listening to when Jordan Peterson
                                         
                                         was on with you and he was talking about New York City
                                         
                                         and talking about what a minor miracle it is
                                         
    
                                         that Manhattan can exist with 12, 15 million people,
                                         
                                         just the infrastructure.
                                         
                                         I was thinking the exact same thing
                                         
                                         as I was walking the streets of New York
                                         
                                         a couple of weeks ago.
                                         
                                         How does this city even happen?
                                         
                                         How does the garbage get picked up?
                                         
                                         How do the vendors supply all the food
                                         
    
                                         in every single restaurant and these people
                                         
                                         never miss a beat?
                                         
                                         How do the waiters show up?
                                         
                                         How do the windows get clean?
                                         
                                         You know, it's just unbelievable.
                                         
                                         If we could all take a deep breath
                                         
                                         and not be offended by everything,
                                         
                                         you know, we'd understand that what an amazing existence life is
                                         
    
                                         and how lucky we are, everybody wants this vending machine now.
                                         
                                         They think life is so simple, you know, boom,
                                         
                                         boom, boom and you get what you want.
                                         
                                         But man, after walking out, and Dash was the one that really wanted us to go to the Holocaust
                                         
                                         Museum and I'm so glad we were here.
                                         
                                         Yeah, it was at the end of our trip, too.
                                         
                                         You walk away from that.
                                         
                                         You just need a couple of minutes.
                                         
    
                                         It's just unbelievable.
                                         
                                         And they laid it out so perfectly how they walk you through it and you get the evolution.
                                         
                                         And you see how Hitler, it all started with brainwashing people.
                                         
                                         It all started with a plan of four or five years.
                                         
                                         We're going to get you thinking a certain way.
                                         
                                         And then we slide in and do what our plan is and chilling.
                                         
                                         Perfect perspective is everything.
                                         
                                         And something I used to say quite often was, how do you have the unity and the patriotism
                                         
    
                                         of September 12th without the tragedy of September 11th?
                                         
                                         Because you look at the effects of what this country did. It reinvigorated the American public to believe in itself, believe in the people, right?
                                         
                                         Screw the government. It's America's awesome because there's men and women willing to give everything to protect it in the name of freedom and liberty.
                                         
                                         It's amazing.
                                         
                                         But we lose sight on that, right?
                                         
                                         Because we're convinced that you should be offended
                                         
                                         at everything you do.
                                         
                                         It's just, I don't know the answer on how to,
                                         
    
                                         because you have to go and seek perspective in these times.
                                         
                                         Because stuff is pretty easy.
                                         
                                         I mean, we have inflation,
                                         
                                         but generally speaking,
                                         
                                         America's a really rad place to live,
                                         
                                         like the best place to live.
                                         
                                         And I don't know how we convince people
                                         
                                         to have a better perspective to appreciate that
                                         
    
                                         and move forward just to like,
                                         
                                         I have one suggestion for people.
                                         
                                         If you wanna have a better perspective in life,
                                         
                                         and if you wanna relieve from stress from your life,
                                         
                                         you gotta cut out mainstream media
                                         
                                         if you're ingesting it all day.
                                         
                                         You've got to stop doing that.
                                         
                                         It's very harmful.
                                         
    
                                         I mean, even for someone like me me who's in the news, right?
                                         
                                         And I've been in the media business my whole life.
                                         
                                         When I'm bombarded with this stuff, you know,
                                         
                                         the alerts on your phone and whatnot.
                                         
                                         And then you go, like when Adam went to New York,
                                         
                                         when I went to New York and you see it's not that bad.
                                         
                                         Now unfortunately, you know, Cal,
                                         
                                         I wish we could have shown you some good parts
                                         
    
                                         and you were in Orange County.
                                         
                                         Orange County feels different too, doesn't it?
                                         
                                         Not like a lot better.
                                         
                                         Not like a different mentality down there.
                                         
                                         Not in there.
                                         
                                         So Tom, tell us about your podcasts
                                         
                                         because we haven't,
                                         
                                         once the last time you were on a podcast with us, by the way.
                                         
    
                                         I think it was the end of March or early,
                                         
                                         it's been a while.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         So tell us about one degree of scandalous.
                                         
                                         Oh, thanks.
                                         
                                         Okay, so you know, I've had this in mind
                                         
                                         for a long time.
                                         
                                         So I have this one degree brand
                                         
    
                                         where we just are,
                                         
                                         we have access to so many people in the entertainment world,
                                         
                                         the sports world to tell their story. So if you see the guy with his with the glasses, that's Cato Caelin.
                                         
                                         So everybody that remembers the OJ Simpson saga, Cato was living in the guest house,
                                         
                                         you know, he was the man in the middle of it. He was the star of the OJ trial. And Cato is a
                                         
                                         friend of mine, and I thought there's no one more associated with scandal than Cato Caelin.
                                         
                                         Right. So I wanted him as my co-host, and we've started this podcast,
                                         
                                         we're two months into it, and it's really fun.
                                         
    
                                         So it's called One Degree of Scandalist,
                                         
                                         and we talk to the people that were directly
                                         
                                         in the most high profile, visible,
                                         
                                         coolest, craziest scandals I wear.
                                         
                                         I'll give you a couple examples.
                                         
                                         Remember when Arianna Grande went in
                                         
                                         and licked those donuts at that donut shop
                                         
                                         in Riverside, this was in July of 2015,
                                         
    
                                         we have the donut shop owner,
                                         
                                         but when you hear the fact story, right? Or two weeks ago on our show, we had one of the guys that
                                         
                                         grew up with everybody with death row records, right? He is the most amazing story about how
                                         
                                         he basically saved two pox life before two pox was two pox. And now he's involved in
                                         
                                         championship rings. He just did the Rams ring. This past Sunday, we taped our new episode.
                                         
                                         It's going to be incredible. We have the pastor that just married Jen and Ben. So we were finding
                                         
                                         out Diddy Tip. What did they pay with? You know, was this a hostage situation? Did he
                                         
                                         bring her in? And we're all over the OJ. People Pat, I found, are so fascinated with the
                                         
    
                                         OJ Simpson. So they just can't get enough of it. On our first show, Kato holds up the
                                         
                                         key that he actually still has the key to that house in rocking ham. So if you want a diversion from the craziness of the world,
                                         
                                         one degree of scandalous with Kato, Kaelin and Tom's energy, you can get it anywhere
                                         
                                         you get your podcast and on YouTube. Thanks for the plug.
                                         
                                         Can we put the link below? Can we put the link below?
                                         
                                         Got it.
                                         
                                         And chat and math. If folks, you're not hard to find. I mean, you're all over the place.
                                         
                                         So if guys want to find you YouTube for better for worse. I mean, yeah, I'm I'm everywhere
                                         
    
                                         But no black rifle coffees are our coffee company and we have I think one of the greatest missions out there for the size of the company
                                         
                                         And yeah, if you want to watch a crazy contents YouTube, I mean New York Times best selling book whatever
                                         
                                         But whatever just we have a marine and air area. Eric, shout out to Eric.
                                         
                                         Eric's like, listen, man, I read his book.
                                         
                                         It's sick.
                                         
                                         It's awesome.
                                         
                                         Couldn't put it down.
                                         
                                         So you, you, you got fans everywhere.
                                         
    
                                         Okay.
                                         
                                         What you're doing.
                                         
                                         So let's make sure we put the link to the YouTube channel, Black Rifle, as well as the
                                         
                                         book.
                                         
                                         Uh, gang, it was good to be back.
                                         
                                         I think we're doing podcasts again this Thursday.
                                         
                                         Thursday.
                                         
                                         Oh, we don't Thursday. Representative Joe Walsh.
                                         
    
                                         Representative Joe, very stupid.
                                         
                                         You said it's very serious.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         So we have to be interesting actually.
                                         
                                         Yeah, it's going to be interesting.
                                         
                                         I did.
                                         
                                         All right.
                                         
                                         Sounds good.
                                         
    
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